The Social Game Ep 5: Devin Walker Mansplains Valentine’s Day

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[00:00:29] Celebrate Love. Erlebe das Popmusical und Julia live in Hamburg. Zum Valentinstag nur für kurze Zeit bis zu 25% sparen. Jetzt Freude schenken. Tickets unter musicals.de Alright everybody, welcome back. Episode 5 of the Social Game Podcast. It's a very special Valentine's Day Edition.

[00:00:57] We got Michelle in her red sweatsuit in the honor of Valentine's Day. Before we get going, I just want to remind you to subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Spotify, Apple, watch us on YouTube. You know, you don't want to miss any of the greatness that happens on this couch. Subscribe, like and share to the Social Game Podcast on Spotify and iTunes.

[00:01:21] And if you're wondering who that special guest is, who didn't wait for our intro, so already we're off the rails. That is my boyfriend joining us today, Mr. Devin Walker. Happy Valentine's Day everybody. St. Valentine actually was kind of a D-bag, so... Really? Oh yeah. I don't know. I think so. No, yes. I'm not sure. You know the story? I don't know. Please, please enlighten us on this podcast.

[00:01:46] One Valentine's Day I did do like a bunch of research and then like I did like a drunk explanation of all of it. And it's one of those things that I just haven't kept in my brain, but I would say Google it. I think there is some mess up shit that went down. Some tea? Pretty sure. This was last Valentine's Day you looked this up? No, it must have been two or three because I was in my old apartment in my bed being like, and Valentine. Yeah, absolute sham. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hallmark holiday. Exactly.

[00:02:14] I have a question for you guys before you have some questions for me. Do you have a name for your listeners? Oh, like what we would call them like our fan club type thing? Yeah, because I have a suggestion. Okay. I'm already coming in with the suggestions. He did his own intro. Yeah. Now his suggestions. You know, he's, he's boyfriend of the podcast. He's entitled. Yeah. So are you guys. Let's hear it. Are you guys. Would a, do you have a name for them? No, we haven't really thought about that. No. Okay. How do you like the socialites?

[00:02:44] I mean, I love the socialites. That's great. Let's go baby. Let's mark it down. That's pretty good. Damn, Devin. I know. I'm coming on the payroll. I'm coming in with fire right off the rip. I actually only agreed to do this for a monetary sum. So I technically I am. The two beers. I technically am actually on the payroll already, but you heard it here first. Uh, thanks for tuning in socialites. Happy to have you here and happy Valentine's day.

[00:03:15] If you're a socialite comment below. Yeah. Hashtag socialite. Hashtag Valentine's day. Hashtag Devin on the social game podcast. Hashtag Devin's, uh, Valentine's day social game podcast. Hashtag. Please stop. So we can start. Fair enough. Hashtags don't even work anymore. Did you hear this? Oh my God. Really? Someone just like papped. I don't know if that's the right word. Like Instagram founder.

[00:03:42] And he was like, yeah, hashtags don't work anymore. Wow. That's like breaking news right here. I've never been socialites. I've never been one to hashtag unless it's like really ironically. Hmm. So I don't. So that still works in this situation. Yeah. Right. So we actually, we haven't been affected by this change. Absolutely. No effect. Hashtag not affected. Hashtag couldn't be us. Yeah. Couldn't be us. Not today. All right. Great.

[00:04:10] Well, if you guys lost all meaning, I'm good with the pre pod. If you guys want to get rolling and introduce me, then, um, I'm like, I think you've introduced yourself. I am sitting here in a bejeweled red sweatshirt suit. Just excited to have my boyfriend on the pod to show you guys what it is like to date Devin. Day in and day out. All right. So this is not your first Valentine's day or it is. It's our first Valentine's day together. It's my first Valentine's day ever.

[00:04:40] I've never celebrated it with anyone else cause they weren't worthy. And that's, uh, Michelle's worthy. And that's a quote that you socialites can take to the bank. Hashtag first Valentine's day. Yeah. Okay. We actually are. Cheers, babe. Aw. Oh, you can cheers us. That's okay. You're, you're like in it. You're like our third. Don't tell Gabby. Well, I just got to sign that role, but that's okay. Yeah. Consent is key. Right.

[00:05:08] And me and Devin, we did say we'd have to discuss that. So sidebar. Unbelievable. Anyway, on our, on our PG podcast as discussed previously. Yeah. Unbelievable. So let's talk about your PG Valentine's day plans. Do you guys have anything? Are you surprising each other? Like what's, this is early relationships. So you kind of got to kill it. Well, I don't, I don't think we have actually any, like, we're not going to do anything for each other, but we're going to the Bahamas and we're staying at Valentine's resort on Harbor

[00:05:36] Island for Valentine's day. So we're staying at Valentine's on Valentine's, but I think it's just going to be a regular day in the office. Right? Well, I had a whole like message written in the sand planned, but apparently we're going to have another day in the office. So I guess, I guess. Just another day. Michelle, you got a couple of days to figure this out. So I guess my plans are shit. Um, and I should quit.

[00:06:04] No, I think, yeah, we're just going to kind of post up on the beach. Uh, hang, hang, hang and bang. Can I say that? You certainly can. And I hope. Hashtag hang and bang. Can I say hashtag hang and bang or. I think so. Oh, and that does sound like a great plan to me. I let him pick out my swimsuit. So. Yeah. Very nice. He got to choose my Valentine's swim outfit and he'll be wearing a speedo, which I didn't choose, but. Yeah. No spoilers. I think that I think speedo may come up later in the pod. Oh, really?

[00:06:36] Wink, wink. Why are you winking on a podcast? Uh, clickbait. Ever heard of it? I think my speedo may make an appearance later on the pod. Oh man. I know what I mean. I certainly hope so. Clickbait. Clickbait. Are you really a speedo guy? Yeah, I were. Yeah. What's what, what happened in your life to make you a speedo guy? What went right? You mean? You're, you love the speedo. I love it. The more thigh, the more thigh I get up, the better.

[00:07:04] Should I drop my like favorite? My favorite. Like I once insulted Brandon so badly on the beach. Oh no. Oh no. Cause my like main ick about men is their thighs. Wow. That's interesting. I really don't like man thighs. No, sorry, Devin. It's like, they're so white compared to the rest of their body. Mine aren't. You know what? That's what I've been missing with men this whole time. I learned quickly pale thighs are an ick. Yeah. And I said, not on me. Wow.

[00:07:34] I won't allow it. Someone figured it out. Yeah. My boat is called the Titanic. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Oh my God. It truly is. And here's the thing you asked me why I wear. And it rides nice and smooth. Yeah. A hundred percent. If anyone's interested in going 12 MPH. That's almost throw up count one on this podcast. Yeah. If anybody likes going 12 MPH and cruising, I'm your guy. Yeah. And you are my guy. If that's your number.

[00:08:03] Mm-hmm. Like going nice and slow down the river. 12 MPH. Is this like a little rowboat? Yeah. Down the river. No, it's a pontoon. Okay. I know what you mean. Devin's chain smoking cigarettes, drinking beers, and I'm in the back tanning and reading my book. And that's our life in the summer. It truly is. Now, I'd like to circle back to a question that you asked. And you said, Devin, why on earth? I didn't ask you any questions. I don't think yet. Would you wear it? I asked about the origin of the speed. Yeah. Origin of the speed.

[00:08:32] What happened to you to become a speedo guy? So short answer, quick answer. I have an absolute cannon dump truck set of cheeks and elite thighs. Okay. And it would be a disservice truly to art as a subject if I weren't to sport a look that emphasized those traits.

[00:09:02] And that's the answer. I can't argue with that. That you can hold me to. No, you can try to argue with it. Forever. You can try, but. Give it a shot. Happy to debate ya. Happy to debate. I already made my feelings on manhats. I've known. Check his OnlyFans guys. Happy to debate. Right after you, the socialites like and subscribe our podcast, you could head right on to his OnlyFans to see his cans. And you know, I get to see them every day. Blessed be.

[00:09:28] Right after we tickle those earbuds, you can get your eyes painted. That didn't work. Um, we're going to revisit that. Moving on. Oh, now you're ready for our questions. Yeah. I'd love to start. Now that you've sunk your own ship with that terrible analogy. Now that I've sunk the Titanic. No, bad, bad joke. It'll never sink. It's unsinkable. All right, let's do this. I guess I'm curious. You know, I've seen, I came into your life only recently and Devin's always been here.

[00:09:58] What was like the, what you guys were like friends before. What flipped the switch when you were like, we're going to date for realsies. Was it when you saw him in a speedo? No. Well, so when I first met him, truly one of the first times I've ever met him, he was in a speedo and it was love at first sight really. I mean, it was my birthday on spies, eyes and allies. He was in a relationship. So it wasn't like that. Well, it was like that for me, but not for him. Uh, so I decided to trap him into be my partner and you know, harassing him into the

[00:10:28] place that we are now. But basically for my birthday, it was me and Logan's birthday and he did it like a little strip tease situation. No, it wasn't Logan. I thought that was more recent. It certainly was Logan. No, that was season 37. It was spies, lies and allies. I saw that on like Twitter the other day. And yes, it was me and Logan. I know for a fact he's, it was Logan. Yes. He's May 4th on May 5th. We were both rookies. Devin did a strip tease and Devin took off a sock, flung it and it hit me in the face and I said, and he was in his speedo and I said, ah, it's love. Yeah.

[00:10:56] Pelted her with a sock with a, with a wet pool sock. Um, and that's what did it. Yeah. Well, you know, unorthodox methods, but. A few other things. It worked. Again, with an ass like this and thighs to match, you'll take a sock to the dome on your B-Day. Yeah. First meet, no doubt. Yeah. Okay. People are lining up down the block. Yeah. For that type of treatment. Quite the gift. Quite the gift. No, but. But you were like a, you were like a friends first kind of vibe. We were friends. Like I think we.

[00:11:26] Friends first kind of vibe. Yeah. Definitely. We talked a lot and just in a friendly way. He was in a relationship. And then honestly, when we really started talking, he was not in a relationship. He had been out of it, but he had banned and completely decided he swore off all women. And so I knew I really had no hope. That is completely inaccurate. That's a hundred percent accurate. I had not sworn off all women. You swore. Well, you swore them off for dating. I wasn't going to have another girlfriend ever. Yeah. Ever.

[00:11:56] Yeah. So sworn off women. Wow. You really. Sworn off girlfriends. Mm hmm. Sworn off girlfriends. Um, some power you have them, Michelle. Yeah. Well, you know, you end up. What's her speedo equivalent that did it for you? Or what soccer. What is her speedo equivalent? And you know what I mean? That was the moment where Michelle was like, yeah. And poignant question. Thank you.

[00:12:21] Um, I'm going to go with Michelle's speedo equivalent has got to be. Well, I want it to be an article of clothing and I want it to be sweatsuits. It isn't. Um, I want it for the socialites. We want that. I want it to be, but it's not a hashtag. Get your socialite sweatsuit at the link below. Um, what I would, what I would say is probably her crosswords. Yeah. Um, that's so whole. Yeah.

[00:12:47] I think, I think Michelle's crosswords really got me because it's quality time. You get to see how somebody's brain work. Crosswords are sex on paper. They're essentially an erotic novel. I don't think anybody's ever said that. Crosswords are essentially an erotic novel. Uh, and I know, and she is a sucker for like a sexy fairy book. I do love a fairy book. No way. You like romance novels? Uh, not romance. What has to be fairy themed? No, no, no.

[00:13:16] It's like, it's specifically fantasy. It's like that deep fantasy. Fantasy. Smutty fantasy. Yeah. Romantic. Yeah. It's like smut. Smut though. Smut. Yeah. I love it. Happy Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day. If you're not reading a guitar, if you're not reading a throne of glass, if you're a throne of glass, everyone was reading that at Ponderosa, I think. Yeah. The pizza place? No, no. Well, fourth wing.

[00:13:45] If you're not up on your fairy porn, your, your dragon fantasy, if you're not captured if by, you know, a witch in some way, then you're not really living. This sounds like a light beastiality. If you're not up on your dragon porn, it's something my girlfriend said on her podcast. I just like to point that out. Yeah. That's a direct quote. And you know what? I stand, I stand by it. It's the perfect thing to pick up for Valentine's Day.

[00:14:13] If you don't know if you're here and you don't know what to get for your girlfriend, your boyfriend, if you're single and you'd like to remain that way, head over, head over to your local bookstore and look for throne of glass. And then also pick up a nice crossword puzzle because apparently that's sex on paper. Sex on paper. No, but I will say like, I always bring a crossword into the challenge house and I do like to collaborate on crosswords.

[00:14:38] I think a lot of people think of them as a solo thing, but people know things that you don't like, I don't know sports. There's always a few sports questions in there. Like there's always, I'm not good at actors or actresses. Turns out he's not either. So we're going to shit out on that one. But like you find, you know, your niche. I'm good at spelling. He's maybe not so much, but he's like quicker. Actually can't can barely read. Yeah. So like, you know, I find, yeah. Truly can't stop. Couldn't read till I was 16. True story. Yeah.

[00:15:07] Ask me to spell socialite right now. I'll butcher it. Can't. Okay. How do you spell socialite actually? I won't be able to actually can't. We're going to make you a custom speedo. Oh, well, this could be how you guys spell socialites, which is interesting. Now I don't know if there's a Y or an I in there. I think there could be two. Okay. Well, I'm working on it. S O C I L that part. I have what? No, no, no. Oh, that's my brother. Oh, that's my brother. S O C I a L. Yeah.

[00:15:38] Uh, so, and then I think it's Y T E S. No, I think it's, I think it's, there's no why. There's no why. I think it's S O C I A L I T. Yes. I'm pretty sure you're being booed by the audience. Yeah. We've got, we've got Michelle's brother here and he is booing us. No, I'm not. I agree with Devin. That's right. This is biased. Yes, baby. All right.

[00:16:06] Well, anyways, if you didn't know, I went to Yale. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Finally. We forgot to address this. I, Michelle. How do you spell socialites? S O C I A L I T E. Socialite. I think that's correct. Oh, interesting. Anyway. I mean, a Y always adds a little flair. Like a Y is like seven I like, like, why would you say I would like as an L Y T E. Like it's electrolytes. I love the word.

[00:16:34] The way you just felt it. Okay. We'll change it. All right, Joe. Thank you for your input. You can sit down and enjoy the podcast. Like the rest of the socialites. Why don't we, maybe we could spell it like that. Well, let's just talk about the letter Y for a little while. Let's talk about its versatility. Okay. Let's talk about how it's one of the only letters that imitates a street that has a street named after it. Like a Y, like a fork in the road. There's a Y. No one calls it a Y. There's S terms. Hello.

[00:17:04] Okay. There's C. There's K. You're wrong. There's L. What's the C one? I don't know. If I keep getting called out, I'm going to walk off set. Okay. I'm done with this. D tour. Let's talk about wise. Why's. All right. Let's talk about wise. Why? Why are we still talking about this? They're a continent and a vowel sometimes. You just, am I going to let that slide? He said it's a continent. No, he said continent. Are you sure?

[00:17:33] No, I said continent. He did say continent. Yeah. There's eight continents, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America, South America, Antarctica, and why? Why? That's seven. And you're missing. Africa. Anyway. And Africa. And Africa. And why? Obviously. The eight one is the right. Well, you know why. Okay. We're not here for that. So I, okay. So I want to explain, I want to explain. Okay.

[00:18:03] So the origin of where, how we got here was asking how we ended up getting together. It does have to do with crosswords and it does have to do with, we were on the show trapped in a house. Let's be honest. And like, I, we already had feelings for each other. We had went, we had went on a date, our first technical date, January 25th, before we went on the show. So we were already sort of seeing each other. Of 23. Of 2024. Four. Four.

[00:18:31] But we had been out a few times in 2023, I think as well. Um, but like technically he said like first day I'm coming to Hoboken. We're going to have a first date. And, and so I went into the season, not really knowing like what that meant for us. Well, let's dive into that date a little bit because I liked that you use the word first and it was our first date and my life with threatened, uh, no less than four times, none by you. Um, so pretty much what happened was we went on a date and then Michelle was like, well,

[00:19:01] we're going to go meet our friends. And then they formed a single file line and they each came up to me and said, if you break your heart, we'll break your neck. And then the next one would come up and say, if you hurt her, I'll kill you. Right. And they just cycled through. Right. And so by the end of the date, I said to myself, well, I do value my life. Uh, and I think, I think I'm going to opt out. It doesn't, the risk rewards not here cause it's ending in death in a lot of these scenarios. So I think I'm actually going to head out. Yeah.

[00:19:31] My friends are very protective of me. That is true. But I mean, then. Oh, nice for her. I went to go visit him. Then we entered the show and it was, it truly was like, well, where are we? Like, where do we stand? He knew that he was going to die and my friends would kill him. If like we've entered into it and it wasn't like for real. For the record, I just want to say directly to all your friends and everyone listening. None of you could kill me. Even if you snuck up on me. I'm coming out a lot. I could definitely kill you.

[00:20:00] There's no shot. Yeah. I would quit poison. Okay. Happy Valentine's day. Happy Valentine's day. Everybody. Michelle's friends could never kill me. They could definitely kill you. They couldn't kill me. What if in a pack of them? Michelle's friends couldn't kill me if they all teamed up. No. Why? If they all teamed up and snuck attack me, I would, I'm still walking out there. Are you kidding me? You don't think Veronica would kill you? All right. Veronica. Okay. Hey Kimmy, you're in the other room. You could never kill me. Okay. I'm staying alive.

[00:20:29] Good luck. Happy hunger games. I feel good luck. Everyone. I feel very confident that my friends could easily murder you. But that's besides the point. So basically we wanted to just continue this thing on the rails. You're so listening. We went into the show, we really had no idea what was going to happen. And then we were just like, all right, let's get on the same page here. And that page that we flipped was to be together. And then here we are a year later. So on the show is when it became a fish. Yes. Well, yes.

[00:21:00] I love that you love to abbreviate. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks for noticing that. That's one of my favorite things that people do. And you are on fire with it. A fish. Fire with Jeff Probst, baby. Let's go. Don't start talking to me about a fish. Cause I will get, I'll get fired up. I'll keep breathing all day. If we start a breathing, I might stop breathing. I like rhyming. I like doing abbreviation rhymes. Is this fun for you, Michelle? I like doing abbreviate rhymes.

[00:21:29] It's, yeah, sure. We're taking you to the next level. Sure. I mean, all day with Devin is variations. File charges. It's variations of him saying things. And then like, sort of. You said hundo before we started. I say hundo pee. I say hundo pee all the time. Yeah. I say hundo pee entertainment. It's a, it's an entertainment group. I started in my head. So if someone, yeah. If someone says something I agree with, I'll go. Yeah. Hundo pee entertainment. Okay. So that's like the opposite end of abbreviation kind of, but I kind of like it.

[00:21:59] Right. It's an extension. It's on the same line. Same vibes. Yeah. Same vibe. Different, different, different execution. If someone does something that I think's okay, I'll say De Sirona. But what? Like decent. Oh, De Sirona. But I, so it's a, Sometimes me and Gabby will. I like the whore I enjoy. So I'll just say De Sirona. Yeah. All right. Like Dees. Dees. Yeah. Dees. The little John. Okay. Wow. Wait, could you do that one more time? Yeah. I think you should do it. No, I'd like it if you did. Now I feel uncomfortable doing it again.

[00:22:28] I feel uncomfortable in general. So I'm kind of like hoping to make it as uncomfortable as possible. That's interesting. Cause I've, I don't know if I've ever been more comfortable. I feel like we're bonding so much right now. I am just here in the middle of flipping my head back and forth. Like you have the worst, you have the worst seat in the house. Yeah. You have the worst seat in the house. Yeah. You're, you're kind of crossfire. You're trying so hard. You caught on the cross. So you like to say the crossfire. Yeah. Caught on the crossfire. Yeah. Not a big deal.

[00:22:57] It's, this is truly so difficult for me because here's the thing. A lot of the time is the best thing that you could do with Devin is try to keep him just kind of smother the energy that he's giving right now. And you're, you're flaming it. Yeah. You're like, you're fanning it. You're fanning the fire. And so the thing is now he's now he feels. I've been bold in him. Yes. She's FTFing. Yes. Fanning the flame. He loves more than anything. I can't even keep up with what you're living right now.

[00:23:27] Don't start my engine. Yeah, exactly. Don't start my engine. I'm here. I'm doing this for the socialites, you know? Lock me up. I would love to. I'm here. You try on a regular basis. Happy Valentine's Day. It's a one of our kinks. Oh, that's a common one. That's a common one. Don't be talking about it. Don't be talking about our kinks. You don't want to talk about it? Good Lord.

[00:23:55] Michelle is as red as her sweatsuit right here. Michelle's face has adopted her sweatshirt color at this stage of the interview. This is a good time for us to wrap up the podcast. We've actually made this a shortened episode. We're done. A nice 10 minute epi and we're going to send you on your way because you guys have loved ones to get to. You think this has been 10 minutes? Try 25. This has been 10 minutes of abbreviations only. Oh, yeah. You think we've only been on for 10? We've been rambling for a better half of the half hour.

[00:24:25] Unbelievable. The show looks miserable. I will say that we have had a lot of discussions about him explaining things and maybe kind of lightening the explanations of things. But here it seems that you're kind of leaning into that. Well, I see. Here's the thing about mansplaining. Are you a big mansplainer? I'd like to explain how I feel about it. Please cut me off. Here's the thing about mansplaining. Okay.

[00:24:55] I'd love to know. I'd love to know. Please mansplain, mansplain to me. Actually. Oh, baby. No, truly. I did say. I did ask him. Please stop explaining. Hey Joey, do you think you can grab me an all day IPA please? Yeah. You already finished the two? Yeah, I took a couple down. Take me to court. You finished two? Yeah. Time for number three. Okay. Here's the thing. I had a conversation with him. Please stop.

[00:25:24] I know we're going to play a game later and there's a question there about whatever. Anyways, I asked him, please, when you think you need to explain something to me, whatever you think the cutoff for that is, cut it off way sooner. There's a limit of how much explaining there needs to be done. Right. And just like kind of like plot details. When I asked you like what a movie was like, I don't need to know the main character's hair color. Okay. Well, sometimes that's fair, but you have to picture it in your head. You have to really frame the scene. Yeah.

[00:25:54] I'm like, what's up with the book you're reading? Well, she's like, well, there's fairies. Let me tell you. No, I started at the beginning. Would you like this be cold? No, no, thank you. Warm room temp for me, please. Is there a cold one in there? No, there is no. Room temp. Thank God. Room temper bust. Oh, it's okay, Joe. Thank you, Joe. You did a good job, bud. Cheers. Cheers, bud. Hoorah. Hoorah. Hoorah.

[00:26:20] I do explain too much, but now I will say that I'd just like to cut you off for one second. Well, maybe I can help with this, you know? I've had a relationship for 10 years, so I think I can help you too. Michelle asks questions about the podcasts that I'm listening to. And they're all like math or science related podcasts. So she'll be like, really? She'll be like, so what's quantum physics? And wants like a quick answer. I'm like, I can't give it to you. Is that the only instance that he's over explained? No.

[00:26:50] Okay. So let me just, okay. I'm going to say, I will say that I do ask a lot of like pretty, like, I just, so I ask, I'm a curious person. So of course I ask questions, but I don't expect it to devolve the way it does. And then there's a space where I sort of just tune out. Okay. And it's typically three to four seconds after the question was asked. Three to four seconds. It's pretty quick. I would say it's more than that. If you want a short answer, just ask me how I'm feeling.

[00:27:20] But I'm bummed. Maybe you should. Right guys. You do like, um, AI. Right men. Michelle, the men who watch this are, are probably right. And so they think, right. Fellas things, Devin. All right. Just like prompt him. Like you would prompt chat GBT. Okay. So you say, give me a three word explanation of quantum physics. Okay. So I asked be specific. So for example, I was just asking like, what is IQ? We were talking about IQ. So I was like, how do you like, how do they determine IQ? So then he goes into explanations.

[00:27:49] Then he starts giving me certain examples of patterns. And then he starts talking about EQ, IQ, and then sort of, and then we get to a point in it where I'm like, Oh, I probably have pretty high EQ. And he's like, well, probably not. Maybe you have more AQ or RQ or SQ or whatever it is. I actually don't know what any of those are. We've now, we're now about an hour into this. 40 minutes. We're probably 40 in. And somehow the thing that I asked has now devolved into me, not only being slightly

[00:28:17] insulted and having to defend myself, but also I don't even know. I don't really even think I got an answer to the first portion of the question. And now we're in a whole different place. Okay. Well, me feeling kind of bad and IQs. IQ. I know what it is. Yeah. You're going to explain it for us right now. Is pattern recognition. I know babe. I get it. I know. It's a two word answer. I know. You do that one in two words. Is it really? Pretty much. It's, why don't you give the example that you gave me?

[00:28:46] It's pretty much pattern recognition. So it's like if a number like. It might be fun if we had Michelle explain it. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Okay. Well, it's pattern recognition. So I'll give you a really easy one. Two, four, six. What's the next thing? Eight. There you go. But he gave you a much more complex one. And I was like, how do those all tie together? He's like, they're square roots of 67. And then he times them by two and four and six. Okay. So let's all go over the, let's all go over the thing that I actually did give her. Okay.

[00:29:14] Which would be two, four, eight, 16. What are we doing? We're doubling. We're doubling. We're timesing by two. That's not what you did. We're timesing by two. That's not what you did. Maybe you did like that. I did a version of that. A version of that, but not that. Maybe you did, maybe I did two, six, 10, 14, 18. We're adding four. We're adding four, right? Pattern recognition. That's what essentially all an IQ test at Yale.

[00:29:44] She went to Yale. Hashtag Yale. She wore her Yale shirt because she knew we were going to be talking about IQ today. Wait, do you guys know what I had a thought of last night? And this is, I'm not even, I didn't even know this was going to come up. Uh, I want to know if my sober IQ is different than my drunk IQ is different than my stoned IQ is different than my IQ on LSD. Devin, we don't need to take a test for that. I'd like to take four different tests on different substances. I want to see which one. We can run that experiment. My hypothesis is you're going to do way worse.

[00:30:14] You think so? Yes. Yes. Being drunk like it like changes your decision making. Yes. Well, obviously not. Well, right, but I feel like. Any of them will be bad. And stoned probably makes you a little slower. High doesn't affect shit. What? Being stoned. High doesn't affect shit. It does make you slower. Yeah, you're sluggish and stuff, Jeff. Well, I would, well, again, we all have different opinions on this. So I'd like to put it to the test. And if you guys would like to watch it. If you would like to fund our study. If you'd like to fund our study. Hashtag socialite with a Y.

[00:30:43] Buy a socialite with a Y sweatsuit. And all the proceeds will go to me taking IQ tests. Under the influence of different substances. So thank you for that. I can assure you that's not where the funds will go. Time for a quick commercial break. Yep. Do you guys have any commercial breaks yet? You guys got any ads? No, we do. We're not really. You had a few lined up, but probably not after this. We have ads. We have ads? Yeah. What are they? On the Spotify and Apple podcasts.

[00:31:13] Oh my God. What kind of ads do we have? Have you listened to your own pod? No, I haven't. I only need to hear myself once. I cannot. The YouTube gets like, you know, we get ads on the YouTube that like, I don't know, I guess cycle. And then yeah, there's like paid ads in the beginning of our podcast. I'm hoping like I listen to a lot of podcasts and I'm hoping one day I get one for like hemorrhoid cream or something and I have to be the one to read it. Ew, gross. Oh, you want to read like a funny ad? You know, like the hemorrhoid cream one? No. Okay. Like liquid IV or something. So that's fun. It's pretty different.

[00:31:43] Yeah. Well, I don't know how we went from hemorrhoid queen to liquid IV. I think both of the, I think the podcast I'm listening to has both of those. Hmm. And I don't know what that says about the audience that listens to it. How, how do you think we could change the subject? How do you guys think we'd be able to change the subject? Should we ask you a question that just open it in 40 minutes later, we'll get an answer. Do you guys want to just fill up the rest of the time on this podcast? Welcome to the mansplaining segment. Yeah.

[00:32:12] Do you mind if we do a quick new segment called mansplaining? It's Devin's favorite segment. I do think our listeners would really love that. Liberal use of the word. The girl needs in the gaze. Um, okay. Well back to the fact. Do you want to play the game? Which game? I don't know. Which one? Oh Lord. I'm very good at games. The questions? Okay. Well, since we've just spent the last however long realizing how truly compatible you guys are. I have an amazing internal clock. We're going to put it to the test.

[00:32:41] No, you can see the stupid thing that has the number on it. I can't see that. You're looking, you're cheating. I'm not cheating at all. You're using context clues. How about that? Uh, I'm yeah. My brain. Pretty good. My bra. Let's play again. Okay, that's fine. I'm ready. I have my answers. We're Teresa and Nemo. And that's why we switched to Shopify. The platform that we used before Shopify has used regularly updates, which have led to

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[00:33:39] It's like not quite as funny as I am. Maybe before we play this game, maybe we should do like some positive affirmations for each other. Oh my God, I would love to. Okay. Okay. What's your favorite thing about each other? About each other. About each other. About each other. I think it's, okay. What's your favorite thing about Devin and then what's your favorite thing about Michelle? You can name a few if you want to. I think he's really funny. And I like that. He's also like super easy going. Like I can put him in any circumstance, situation. No, don't take adaptability. That was going to be mine.

[00:34:10] Well, I'm sorry that we're, we like the same things about each other. God damn it. But I like that. I like that. Like he, he really prioritizes my friends, my, my family. Like he will like sit and listen to me like spiral for as long as I need to, and then make me feel not guilty for that thing. Like, I think he just understands me and sometimes what I need even before I even know what's going on. That's very sweet. And I like Michelle. My tits. No, just kidding. I don't even have tits. I'm sorry.

[00:34:40] I don't even have. Took the words right out of my mouth. I don't even have any. I like Michelle's cans. I was like cans has got to come back up again. File a claim. I like my Queens cans. Guilty. Guilty as charged. Uh, no, Michelle's incredibly adaptable. You can burn literally anywhere. She's going to be the star of the show or she's happy taking a backseat and playing sidekick, right?

[00:35:09] I'd say she prefers to be the main character, but she's okay being sidekick in the right circumstances. She says adaptability is probably my number one trait in people in general. Can I bring you anywhere? And will you embarrass yourself or me? I, the, for me, the answer is yes. I'm going to, someone will be embarrassed if I'm there. It's not me. You don't embarrass me. It's typically I've embarrassed myself. Um, but you don't embarrass anyone ever. You're great.

[00:35:37] And, uh, you're super thoughtful and kind and an excellent chef. Wait, is this a backwards day? Which I agree, which I really do appreciate. Uh, and yeah, you're just an overall rock star. Did you like her from cooking? No. Yeah. Absolutely inaccurate. He doesn't, let's be honest. I can't even, I can't even cook an egg. Oh no. No, no, no. I can even do that. No, no, no. Are you a good cook, Devin? Yes. That's the secret.

[00:36:05] That's secret to my relationship is that Gabby cooks every meal and I don't cook at all. I can cook a lot. What's the, what's the key? You've been in a relationship for how long? She's engaged. Let's flip it on her. 10 years, 10 years. What took you so long? I know. Did you propose or did she? She proposed. Okay. Please. That's the vibe. Okay. That's the vibe. That was clear from the start. Okay. Got it. Got it. That's the vibe. Okay. How does that work? We just discussed it. Okay.

[00:36:34] I think it's different for everybody. You know what I mean? That's kind of the beauty of a relationship like this. Whoever goes to Yale doesn't propose. No, that's not. You know, Ivy League education is not necessary for proposals. Clearly based on how our country is going. Um, yeah, she, we were together for a really long time. We got together when we were 21, but we actually met when we were 17. Wow. That's crazy. Crazy. Where? It's a really embarrassing story. We'd love to hear it. All ears. It's been told on RITP before.

[00:37:04] Oh, nevermind then. No, I can tell you. Revert back to episode two. Have I told you? I, I've, I've heard over a few martinis. Yes. Okay. So I, you know, growing up in the two thousands, gay closeted, I watched the show Glee for the first time. We love Glee. Didn't everyone watch Glee? Okay. Well, I'm just setting the stage. Yeah, we were Glee. I didn't know if you were a big Gleek. You don't scream Gleek to me. I was in chorus. You were?

[00:37:34] I was a part of the North Hamptons. I was a regular Finn. No, it's like. I was part of the North Hamptons. Okay. We went up against the logarithms of MIT. I'm not new. I'm not a rookie. Oh my. Well, another thing I love about him. I would love to see you in the movie club. Anyway. Um, I. Carrying baritone. I saw this character, Santana Lopez. It's a beautiful, very hot cheerleader. So, cheerleader. Santalo. Santalo. As we know. If you will. Got together with, I'm trying to abbreviate, Brittany.

[00:38:04] I don't know her last name. I don't know her last name either. Forget her last name. I don't remember. Brittany's failing as a Glee. So, San and Britt get together. They're two cheerleaders. Yeah. Very hot. And then that was the tick in my brain of like, mm-hmm. This is what I'm looking for. So, I was a huge. Hot cheerleader with an abbreviated name. Yes. Abbreviated name is actually top of the list. So, I met Gab. Gab. Right? My fiance. In line. Fiance.

[00:38:31] To meet Naya Rivera, who played Santana Lopez when we were 17. I was standing behind her in line. Oh, wow. Mm-hmm. Where? In Edgewater, New Jersey. Woo! Shout out to Edgewater. Shout out to Edgewater. They had an AT&T store. Yeah. Hell yeah. We're all true love is born. It was a mean greet for her and Corey Monteith, who are both now deceased. In the iPhone 3? Yeah. I don't know what the connection was to AT&T. Razor. Back then it was probably a razor. Yeah.

[00:39:00] I don't think, I think this was high school. I don't think I was that. Maybe it was the envy. Like the envy tune. Okay, you guys are in line. Land the plane. Dude, I'm telling you. We can, we can carry this from now on. Devin, you can see yourself out. You're not needed. You can see yourself out. You've been demoted from the socialites. Can I tell you that this is what it's like explaining a movie to him? And he said, oh, well, you have to know about the hair color. So he doesn't like the woman's plane. That's his name. But like the whole plot.

[00:39:29] If you're going to mansplain, you got to be down with the woman's plane. Right. That was funny. It was a funny thing to say. I mean. Take me to court. Funny. I guess each their own. We all have different levels of humor, I suppose. And that's not my. It wasn't funny. Oh, my brother says it wasn't funny. He's turned on you. Yeah. No, everyone's turned on me. I love you too, Joe. That's unconditional. Anyway. Yeah. That's the story. Since you don't want to hear any more of it.

[00:39:58] Well, no, I'd like to hear more just faster. I actually can't take responsibility for his actions. I'm just staring at Michelle. Okay. So anyways, we have a game planned. Yeah. And well, excellent. Okay. But I will say I, I love that you're getting married. I'm very excited for you. I can't wait to go. You know what? I was going to invite you, but I might revoke your plus one right now. Yeah. I mean, that's fair. I look.

[00:40:24] We actually have a, we actually have a rule that. Oh, two a year. Yeah. So actually you're in the clear. He only allows two years weddings. So I might find. So anyways, I don't allow two a year. I'll only go to two. Right. Oh yeah. Okay. Here's you'd be like a fun dude at a wedding. If I hear very first time in September, no played by some shitty one more time.

[00:40:53] I'd rather listen to challengers, talk about their children. Then hear very first Simon in, in September. One more time. Yeah. That's not, I have a very strict playlist Devin. Because tonight's gonna be a good night. That's not on it. Because you're gonna get divorced in three years. So I don't want to hear it. All right. I've gone to two. Well, first of all. Not you. Not you. Not you. I'm not saying you. Okay. Not saying you. Also, I want you to listen to my wedding playlist.

[00:41:24] And you can, you know. Now, I don't like weddings because old people feel entitled like it's their day. Boomers. You ruined everything. Can I just talk about boomers for a second? Do we have to? You've ruined everything. It's gonna happen. And we want to do it now. You've ruined everything. You guys need to sit down, lay down. They don't, boomers don't really. Relax. Relax, boomers. I said that about Leo's last time. You're ruining. There's a lot of Leo comments. Yeah, sorry. You're ruining weddings. Okay?

[00:41:52] You're ruining weddings and I don't want to go to them anymore. So I've put two, I've put two on the docket. Two. Yeah. Not allowed. I'm, I'm, I'm bringing, able to bring him. I will go to. To one local, one destination. This is pretty local. So I actually have a local one lined up. I think our local time slot is already filled. We have a. I don't want him there. Okay. That's fine. Yeah. You're, you're not invited anyways. You're off the list. Freaking loser. I am. My DJ is going to be lit. I'm really fun at weddings, but I think they're, I guess I just went to too many in,

[00:42:22] in two years that were all the same. And I was like, Oh my God, your special day, your special day looked a lot like the last six special days I went to. Hmm. Well, one of these things is not like the others. Oh wait, no. No, they actually are all the same. Uh, so thanks for doing the same thing that seven other people did this year. Congratulations. And here's $400. Um, not really worth it for me. We actually invited. Yeah. $400. Thanks a lot. Not any, not even an open bar.

[00:42:52] Okay. Well that would be, there is an open bar. We've talked about open bars. Not even an open bar. We've talked about open bar. I haven't been to a wedding without an open bar. That sucks. Unbelievable. The nerve. Okay. Moving on. Now we know. How I feel about weddings. Wow. Anyway. And I'm glad we got here. Great topic of conversation on the Valentine's episode. How much. True love. We love and hate weddings. We love, love. If one more challenger talks about their kids.

[00:43:19] I'm going to make everyone come to my wedding and they'll just be playing very first time in September on repeat. All right. You're extending. You guys will be, you guys will be eating dry fillets. You guys will be eating dry fillets and listening to any first time in September over and over. How do you like your flight medium? Well, please exit the venue, sir. You're 78. Okay. Take the trolley home at nine.

[00:43:50] We organized. We're also by skins. We organized multiple trolleys. So you could leave soon. Goodbye. I'm not really sure where to go from here. Where are we? I don't know. Play the game. Let's play. Well, could you shut up for a second and then we'll play the game. All right. I'm going to tone it down. Joe, could I have one more all day IPA, please? That'll help. Thank you. Beer four will make this better.

[00:44:17] It's interesting because we actually have a nice low key night planned after you guys depart. We're supposed to be going to golf with Joe. If you guys thought this was going to go any other way. I don't. You know what? I didn't know which way it was going to go. Well, we've only had one other male guests on the podcast and it was Wes. So we really haven't had a lot of male energy. I don't spend a lot of time around men in general. Yeah. We don't sure. Can't blame you. Yeah. I'm a lesbian. This is what it's like. You know what?

[00:44:45] I'm feeling pretty good about my not choice that I was born with. I've considered being a lesbian. I have to say it's fandom. I highly recommend it. Yeah. Do you guys know that I'm from the lesbian per capita? Oh, I actually have heard about this. Yeah. Michelle told me. Number one lesbian per capita city. I believe it's because there's a college there on planet Earth. Well, it's not just because it's college. Just like they stay there. Maybe it's been a super.

[00:45:14] It's like a very liberal just place in general because of the for college area. But yeah, I. I am tried lightly a supporter of love in any facet. And I have been since I was a top since I was in a little red wagon at a pride parade. So all you newcomers. It's trendy now. Okay. You know, like my man's plane. You don't like it.

[00:45:42] I was in a red wagon at a pride parade when I was seven. I wasn't in a rainbow wagon. My mom took me down there. I held on to her really long hair like a leash. Okay, everyone. Okay. It's true. Yeah. Really long hair like leash. Yeah. She had hair down to her ankles. I held on to it like this. She would put it into three braids. Me and my brothers would hold her hair. Like three of you like this. Yeah. And she'd walk us through the pride parade. That's like a, like a Alaskan, like, like dog team or whatever.

[00:46:12] If she was going too quick. We just give her a quick yank. Oh my God. I wish this was a joke. I lost her in Cal doors once. Cal doors. Yeah. Yeah. It's a fucking throwback. And some other lady had long hair and I ran up to her. You grabbed the wrong long hair? Yanked it. Hard. Yanked it. Never forget. She turned around. I was like, you're not my mom. She was like, who the fuck are you? What the hell? Yeah. Scarred. Also, what an idiot I was at Cal door.

[00:46:41] When I would go to the doctor to get a shot, I would go to the doctor and my parents would say, you could pick out anything you want from Cal door. I would get like a GI Joe. What would you rather have gotten? TV. I don't know. True. Anything that didn't cost $4. Cal doors was kind of lit. This is which is why the day, which is why kids are idiots. I was a baby. I would get a GI Joe. I wouldn't even keep it in the box. I would depreciate its value immediately upon returning home. Moving on.

[00:47:10] Anyway, I just never felt gayer in my life. I, but this is, this is what it is like 24 seven. Well, not 24 seven. So what if we, what if we come up with like a, you know, people have like a safe word. Every once in a while he sleeps. What do you think it would be? Like say, I'm so interested to hear this because we just talked about the real safe word or I was going to, I was going to say you could pick any safe word. What would it be? Oh my God. That's a lot of pressure.

[00:47:39] First thing that comes to worry. He'll have an opinion on it. I won't. Yes. You will. People always go fruit. Yeah. Right. They're like pineapple. Right. That's not my safe word. Let's go. Let's go. That's what everybody says. Always. Number one safe word in American history. Pineapple. Okay. So what do you think would be better? We'll have to take a survey on that. What would I prefer? I don't care what it is. I'm just saying. I wasn't good. I was going to say you could have one where it's like when he's mansplaining too much, you just say this word.

[00:48:09] Yeah. Ravioli. And I do. I say, shut the fuck up. Got it. Which is several words. Yeah. And well, I could shorten it. STFU. STFU. Does anyone else understand that? I just mansplained that that was multiple words. At least you're becoming self-aware. Oh, I'm self-awareness is not the issue. You just continue it despite the awareness. It's not. The dissonance. Self-awareness is not the problem. I will say he did try for a bit to kind of tone it down.

[00:48:35] And then I was like, so is this, is, is a Reuben open face? And he's like, I don't know. You're going to have to figure it out yourself. I'm like, so this is not the instance. When I ask you. So he went out to help. Yeah. Took 10 hours. He took it. Took 10 hours. Asked me if a Reuben was open faced. Hey, honey, I'd like to order a Reuben at this diner. Is it open faced or no? It's not open faced. No, it's not. I actually can't. Oh, really? Yeah. Can't explain. Yeah. I would have swore it was too, Joe. Really? Why?

[00:49:04] So you guys just, so you got a piece of, you got a piece of rye, marbled rye on the bottom with, you're either holding on to sauerkraut or Russian dressing on the top. You cut it. You cut it. How many napkins did I give you with an open faced Reuben? You cut it. When did an open faced Reuben? Honestly, this is actually crazy. I don't know. It's absurd. I don't want to agree with Devin, but I have to. Also. That it is. Thanks Joe. I voted that it was too. And a patty melt. Welcome to everyone else's world. Now, I don't know.

[00:49:33] I just, I had questions. Again, a patty melt would never be open faced. Well, again, I didn't know what it was. What do you think they did? What do you think they did? I'm just going to start singing Taylor Swift cause I'm getting overwhelmed with all this male energy in here. My brother agrees with me and that's a good brother. Devin, take notes. Play the game. All right. Anyway, on this lovely note, let's see how compatible and how well you two know each other. Don't fucking cheat over there. I swear to God. I already saw your answer.

[00:50:02] Well, I'm sure we have the same answer. No, we don't. Unbelievable. Okay. All right. So we're going to play the newlywed game. Basically, we're going to ask them questions. We already had them pre answer apparently anonymously, but now they're looking at each other's face. Apparently. No, I haven't seen his. Okay. So Michelle is following the rules. Devin's cheating on par. So I'm going to ask the question you guys will reveal and then we'll discuss. You're supposed to try to answer the same thing and prove how compatible you are by answering the same thing. Okay. I got it. But we'll see. All right. Fair enough. We'll start off with number one.

[00:50:32] Who would be the better trader? I wrote Devin. Oh, yeah. I wrote Michelle. Explain. Really? I mean, he has a way of he. I think he's really analytical mind. So I think it would be hard in general for him to play the traders game. But if he were to play anything, he would play. I think he'd be good as a trader. Okay. This is the question.

[00:51:00] Now, this is the question of who would be the better trader, not better at traders, right? Who would be the better trader on the traders? Yes. Traders. If you had traders, I think you'd be better as a trader than I would. I'd be better faithful. So everyone's getting killed if I'm a trader. I'm going to attempt to kill them all episode one and win right away. Well, there's rules. How many bullets can I fire here? What's his name? Allen. Allen. Hey, Allen.

[00:51:29] Think I could get a couple extra shells? There's some people here who are rubbing me the wrong way. Yeah. All right. So I don't think I'd be. I don't think I'd be that good at being a trader. I think it'd be great at finding the trader. Okay. Interesting. You're more of a treasure seeker. I think I'd be able to smell. I think I'd be able to sniff them from a mile away. Um, I think you'd be a great trader because no one would expect it. And you are so good. Like survivor people in general are so good at cushioning the blow.

[00:51:58] Um, I think it might actually be good. Michelle, you might be stressed the whole time. I just, it wouldn't be good for you. You would be miserable. Yeah. She would. My mental health. You would be good. Yeah. I think she would be good. I think you have like genuine emotion. Like you'd be like, like overwhelmed. Actually upset about it. And then people would believe that you were not a trader. Cause how could you be so devastated? I feel like I would be not to like blow up your future game. I mean, at the end of, at the end of it all, if I were to be a trader, I do think I would,

[00:52:26] I do think I'd be decent just because I would be such a mess. And honestly, whenever I'm in power on the challenge, I have really botched it, but that is confusing to people. So yeah, throw them off. Maybe, maybe my lack of strategy would actually be a good strategy in the end, but I will say my mental health would be on a rapid decline because let's be honest. I don't handle pressure. Those brunches would be so good. I would. Breakfast. Michelle's face.

[00:52:53] When the person she voted out or, or killed or whatever. Doesn't walk in. Doesn't want, what would you do? Just start crying. Just immediate tears. Probably. I can't believe this. I don't know what I would do. I would. I, that is my biggest fear as well. Your face would look a lot like you did the first 15 minutes of this podcast. All right.

[00:53:20] Well, you guys technically failed that, but you answered each other, which is a little cute. Yeah. All right. Question number two. What's something Michelle thinks she's really good at, but actually she's not. Whispering. I'm a good whisperer. I can assure you, you aren't. Oh, wow. I really thought I was good at that. See, okay.

[00:53:47] So that's a trick question because I, the question is, what do you think you're good at? Of course I think I'm good at whispering. How can I answer that? Well, you're supposed to guess what he, what he would think that you thought you're good at. Yeah. Right. So what'd you put time management time? You don't think you're good at that. Yeah. What? No offense. Love you. I think, I don't think that's your strong suit, right? Here's what I will say. You're on record saying eight minutes late is on time. You told us to get here at two today and then we were here at three. Okay. I will just, okay. So time then. Okay.

[00:54:17] But I thought that maybe you would think that I, well here. Okay. But sometimes time management is not my thing. Okay. But then you say that I lollygag and I'm like, I'm not trying to delay us. You said that I try to delay us. You're a filibuster. You're an intentional delayer. Yeah. You're an intentional. I like the use of filibuster in that. Yeah. Has a, has a phobia of being on time. You know what? There's actually a thing in our short time.

[00:54:46] I have to agree. Yeah. Thank you, Joe. No. Okay. It's a resounding. We're not doing very good at this game. Okay. So far not doing great. But also you're terrible at whispering. I just want to put that out there. We can all hear you. Oh. Huh. Some constructive feedback for the traders. I've heard every whisper you've ever whispered. Well, sometimes I, maybe I want you to hear them. Like, I'm like, he's being a real dick, you know? I don't want to say it to his face. I don't want to hear his feelings, but. That's so weird because you do say it.

[00:55:17] I do say it to your face. Right in my face. Okay. Healthy communication. Okay. Number three. What is Michelle's least favorite clothing item that Devin owns? I have two things. Let's hear them. Speedo. Speedo. No, I said your old, your old Krusty Birkins stocks. I love those. I know. I love those. What happened to them? They went missing. Ooh. Okay. Okay. Or. I found them.

[00:55:44] I found them atop a hotel bathroom stuffed with wine bottles. It was just like, the one was just like popping out in Brooklyn. I was like, Hmm, this is interesting. Yeah. That was. Yeah. I got the message. Yeah. I spent, as we went to a hotel, like, and I tried to throw them out incognito, but apparently he found them. Oh my God. Did you call them Brett Sheldon? Yeah. What is it called? Garth Brooks. Garth Brooks. No, no, no. The shirt. The red shirt. Garth Brooks. That's not a Garth Brooks shirt. The red shirt. Oh, Ricky Van Shelton. Ricky Van Shelton.

[00:56:14] Oh, Ricky Van Shelton is far. The other thing that I, that I am not a huge fan of is he has this red thrifted shirt that he doesn't even know who the artist is. Whenever I go to see a perform or whenever I go to do a performance, like a podcast, uh, somewhere else or like a event or something, I go to a thrift store and I buy their traditional local garb. So when I went to Nashville, I bought a Ricky Van Shelton shirt. Who's Ricky Van Shelton? He's a country music superstar. I'm sure.

[00:56:43] Who none of us have heard of. Explain it more. Ricky Van Shelton. Born in 19... Born in 1964. Please don't explain it anymore. No, but he's a country music guy and I love his shirt. It's big, it's baggy, it's cool, it's retro. And I wear it a lot. A lot. At least once we eat. Maybe we can get a picture of it and throw it on. I actually forgot it in the back. It's with him currently? He didn't pack it? What do you think he didn't pack the shirt? You thought she didn't like the Speedo? We just talked about how much she loves the Speedo.

[00:57:13] I didn't think she liked it. She made me throw one out actually. Well, that's because it was going a bit south. I gave it a, I gave it a Viking burial. Yeah. Well, no, you tried to, which he tried to send it on a raft and burn it into the river. But apparently Vietnam has some rules against that. Which was super interesting because there was like a shopping cart and a baby carriage floating down the river, but I couldn't burn my Speedo. All right. It's like a bowling pin. And you're spending the environment. Yeah. All right. Next question.

[00:57:40] There's someone on the bridge just like dumping a trash bag in, but I can't burn my Speedo. Oh no. Interesting. You done? I hope so. I can be. Happy to be. Lovely. What is the most ridiculous argument that Michelle has started? Hmm. The one that we will probably, that we know about, we're not going to talk about, but some secondary, second most ridiculous argument.

[00:58:09] Oh, I, oh, I should have known. Okay. He put Catan and I put explaining trader strategy. Oh, that wasn't an argument. That was an argument. It was a heated conversation. He didn't talk about the strategy of the traders. Well, because I said, Oh, this is how I would play it. I was like, well, that's a stupid way of playing it. I did not say that. That's absurd. You guys have heard me for about, uh, what are we on? 57 minutes at this point. You think that I would say something like that? Never. Yeah.

[00:58:39] Okay. I will say Catan in general gets very heated between us. We're not, we're actually on a break from playing it because you guys play two player Catan. Yeah. I know. I mean, that's a recipe for disaster. It's sick. It's sick. Now. Is it a bad, like sick? No. Or like, no, like twisted. No, not a good way. Bad way. Okay. In what world have we played two player Catan no less than 35 times? And yet.

[00:59:04] If I win ratio, if I probably 33 to one, um, if that's the problem, he always wins. And I'm very, I do the same thing every time. So I said for every six, can you let me win one? Just so I feel better. I do the same thing every time. You don't want a consolation win. Yeah. I'm going to build a settlement close to your settlement and it's going to be on a brick and wood immediate. Mm-mm. And then I'm going to immediately cut you off the beanie of the game.

[00:59:34] I do the same thing every time. And then I'm going to the sheep pork. I'm going to be the shepherd. I'm going to trade two sheeps for a wheat. Why don't you guys play like a cooperative game? We were played overcooked. No, we went to an escape room failed miserably. Yeah. But because you, after the podcast, we did. I will say, I will say, because the reason we failed is because you booked us for an eight person escape room and there was two of us to do the work of eight. That's tough. Hmm.

[01:00:02] And that is why that we failed. It's not because we're stupid or anything, but they had to give us like a hundred thousand hints. Oh no. Yeah. It was pretty embarrassing. Okay. Next. LTV, uh, superstars. Okay. Five. I'd like to change my answer. Okay. Well let's, let's hear it. What is Devin's grossest habit? I wrote down, I cough a lot, but I'd like to change it to mansplaining. No, I wrote Hocking Lugie. Yeah. We're on the same page. I'm a coffer.

[01:00:32] Yeah. So am I, but that's, mine's a tick, but. Well, you don't cough. No, I like, I don't cough really, but I like. I do love cigarettes. It's like a, it's like a, like a habit, like a throat clear. A throat clear. You know what? I do that too. It really bothers Gabby. She hates it. Yeah. Me too. I have like a little post nasal drip sometimes, you know? Yeah. I think mine's just like a, like a tick. And once it starts, it's hard for me to stop doing it. I've never noticed that you do that. Not once. Shit, I hope you don't start noticing now. Never noticed it. I do cough a lot though.

[01:01:02] I'm a coffer. That's because of smokes cigarettes. Yeah, I gotta stop that. Hmm. Interesting. Okay. Mansplaining doesn't. It bothers. You guys almost sent me into a micro plastic meltdown. Let me nurse splint you. Okay. All right. Let's just move on from all this. Six. What reality show that you haven't appeared on would Michelle be the best on? I changed mine halfway through. Oh my God. Really? Yeah. I hope you didn't change it from big brother. Ooh. Summer house.

[01:01:32] Cause I'd rather not play a competition show. That's not really a competition. It's not competitions reality show. That's true. You're right. And I would choose something that I could just drink and sit by a pool and start drama. That does seem on brand. I think you'd be so good at big brother. You actually would be for sure. I think it'd be so good. I agree with that. The live feeds, obviously. I think that live feeds in general would be stressful. I could be a little. No, you're I'm around you all the time. You don't say anything. You're such a compassionate, caring person.

[01:02:01] You would live streams would not be the issue. Uh, you're so good. It's survivor people in general. And I tried to mention this earlier, but it got breezed over cause I'm outnumbered. Um, no, I'm just kidding. So all the woman's playing, all the woman's planning around this pod is really freaking me out. I'm going to crack my second. So survivor people in general are so good at cushioning the blow.

[01:02:26] It doesn't translate on the challenge, but I think it really would translate in big brother. Yeah. That's like the long game. It's like the ultimate long game. Big brother. Uh, it's the ultimate single season long game. Yeah. Yes. It doesn't work on the challenge because the long game on the challenge is even 20 years. Like I can't, right. You can't, it's the long game and the challenge is insane. It's really even hard to single season long game. The single season long game is big brother. Yeah.

[01:02:56] And the way that I've watched survivors, good survivors. So like Jay, I don't think is, is good at this. Um, because he doesn't care enough to be, he could be good at it, but he doesn't care enough to be, um, the way that you're good at it to really explain to somebody like why you did the thing that you did. If they come back, like you'll really take the time.

[01:03:23] If I vote someone in and they come back, I'm voting them in every single other time right away with no explanation as to why I'm doing it. I'm never going to be like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I did this. You will stay up till 5am and talk to them about the pressures. And I have done that with cats. I think that's good. Yeah. But the thing is, it is. And I think that works in big brother. I think it's not strategy really. I really actually do care. Care. That's what I'm saying. But I, I actually thought about writing big brother.

[01:03:51] The reason I didn't was because I was, I feel like I'd be decent at any sort of strategy game anyways. I think that's like an obvious thing, but I do. I want to play really stressful strategy games. Like, I think I'd rather. Celebrity big brother, you'd be great at. You'd crash. And I'd rather sit by a pool with a glass of rose and talk about, you know, how so and so's relationship is fun. I'd rather gossip by the pool. I just would. Lower lift, easier.

[01:04:19] It's just more fun for me. But I will say that I, I do think I do fairly well on big brother. I just heard it is so mentally taxing. Yeah. I heard, and they don't know what's going on at all. Everybody is experiencing it. Then they get out. I think the celebrity one though. That, yeah. It is. I don't know if I'm a big enough celebrity for that. But they get out and they're like, and then people like hate them for something they've been doing this whole time. They're like, shit. It is good. They like, they like walk out the door and then there's like boo. And they are like, and they're like, oh, I thought I was going to be alive.

[01:04:48] And it's like, that's, that is true. And then you find out that you have like this weird thing that everybody picked up on and then they're like sniffing it. And they're like, man, Michelle coughs a lot. Yeah, exactly. She like sniffs her oatmeal all the time. And you're like, what the fuck? She's an oatmeal sniffer. I don't want to be perceived that much. How about when they have like guys in there that just like watch people sleep? Like, didn't that happen to Amber? What? Oh yeah. He was on my survivor season. Wait, Caleb was on my survivor. He played both? Wait, beast mode cowboy? He played cowboy. Like was like a super creep of Amber.

[01:05:18] When you won? Yeah, when I won. He was like watching her snore. Yeah. Oh, that's weird. He really loved her. Well, I don't think she snores. Actually, I know she doesn't snore because I just, she's my roommate in All Stars 5. She's gentle sleep. She's actually an angelic sleeper. She's very. You'll never hear her. I had Fessy and Leroy who you definitely can hear. And me and Amber were, were pretty silent. Leroy had night terrors actually. That's an interesting sidebar. Yeah. That's cool. And we woke up one night and Leroy was like yelling at us.

[01:05:47] And I looked at Amber and Amber looked at me and we were just like both terrified. We were so afraid. But yeah, some crazy guy was like staring at her. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And you don't know. You're on a live feed. They forget. You're not even going to try to hide it. That's weird. You're staring at a sleeping woman. It's weird. You're a sick pervert. Yeah. It was. What's his name? Caleb. What's his nickname? Beast mode cowboy. Self-imposed nickname. I'd rather die. Toxic.

[01:06:17] You were on the tribe with him? Toxic masculinity much? Yeah. Toxic masculinity much? I was on a tribe with him. Yeah. He got medically evacuated from her season. Yeah. He basically had a heat stroke, correct? Yeah. Devin's never seen my. He. Yes I did. My family watched the finale of my season, but otherwise. I really did watch that finale. Yeah. They've forced him to sit down and watch the whole thing. It was amazing. That's like your origin story. Okay. Anyway, we really derailed that. Jesus. I think this is the last one. Yep. Perfect.

[01:06:46] Oh, we're just doing the reverse for Devin. What reality show you haven't been on that Devin would do the best? Dealing an OD LA. Hey! Another two out of seven. Yeah. Two out of seven's not bad. That's not bad. I love that for us. Two out of seven's not bad. He's good with numbers. I mean, he would be great at that game. Period. Math, politics. Yeah. Easily manipulable cast. Yeah. You got a bed. There's no roughing it. Snore fast. I'll win that game literally in my sleep. Yeah. I actually did. And I'm a huge fan of the game.

[01:07:15] I think it's brilliantly composed. Are you watching? Uh, yeah, I'm watching. Michelle's not. Yes, I actually am. Oh, you are. Mm-hmm. You said I'm not gonna watch it before we have Parvati on, but actually after. Now I am watching. Now I am watching. No, you have to watch because she's also, she's incredible. She's so good. Oh, amazing. The Australian survivor didn't even know he was on. He is so good. Mm-hmm. Okay, well, I'm not caught up. I'm not caught up. So if he's out or any of them are out, I don't wanna know. Okay. Well, a lot of them are gonna be out now. There's only been three episodes, I think.

[01:07:45] When this airs, yeah. Now it'll be a few more. The concept of that game, the blending of genres into a game is, that is actually what's like catered and built for my brain. Because if I can go back and like look, and especially if you know the previous seasons you have something to base your strategy on, you can tweak someone else's strategy that works. Mm-hmm. Absolute walk in the park. That's why I'm so surprised that people don't do better on these other strategy games.

[01:08:14] What do you mean? I'm really surprised about it. Like for instance, Kylan watched all the challenges and then just like blended everybody's strategy together and it works. Like doing that works. Mm-hmm. Doing the research and knowing what you should do before you go in. Doing the research and knowing what you should do. It's boring to do. Yeah. And you have to have a lot of time. I've never done, I've never watched one show I've gone on ever. I've been winging it from day one. Yeah, same.

[01:08:43] If I studied, and especially now with AI, I think you just type it in like what's the best survivor strategy? That's actually a really funny idea. And it'll like tell you. You should do that. Like and just to play it like that way would be very funny. So I'm surprised. But there's too much human. People are still bad at it. I think survivor you can put that in. That would be hard. I'm surprised people are still bad at traders. Well, here's the thing. I feel like not just. I'm still surprised at that. Oh God, here we go. This is our argument. Okay. So what was the argument? Tell me about it. Okay.

[01:09:12] So I said, well, I don't want to give away a strategy because that's how I would play. So. Yeah. Good point. Nevermind. I want you to go. Yeah, we can't say, we can't say a ton about it. We have totally different outlooks on. Yeah. We will sidebar this. Yeah. How to best conquer that game. Yeah. We have two totally different ways that we would want to play it. I do think that's an interesting show. Cause it's like you, it's not really competition reality TV veterans.

[01:09:38] There's only like six people who've played a competition show on every season of the Traders and everybody else is just like. The way they keep voting out people that they're just afraid of is, is wild to me. Like Wes would have been such a good ally. It's almost, I feel like these people kind of like revert to like these basicness of like, do I like these people because they haven't played a game? Do you know what I'm saying? I would.

[01:10:06] So like the other survivors and like big brother challenge people will be like, okay, I can tolerate this person who's not my favorite because he's helpful. Also there's going to be like, I don't want to be around them. Can I just say there's a certain level of. Who wouldn't want to be around Wes though? He's so great. Okay. But people, they all found him abrasive. I, I agree with you that. Well, he is. He's my, those, all those like girls. They're going to be like, he's my brand of humor, but I do like, you know, I, I see maybe

[01:10:35] not for a lot of people, but for me, yes, for you. Yes. But I will say. You want to know what rhymes with yes? Wes. Thank you. And here's the thing. Thanks everyone. Here's the thing that I think. And that's going to wrap. No, I'm just kidding. I think that people have been voting out all of like the really interesting big characters that can carry a really fun show. Now it's still really fun right now, of course, but I like who votes out.

[01:11:03] I am who's like, she's no, they just killed her, killed her, whatever. But it, she's, she's going to add fun value to the show. It's like vote out somebody that doesn't matter. So that the show doesn't lose. Like you're on so many levels of meta strategy. I respect not having producer brain on like what's going to make this the best show or whatever. Yeah. No, I don't. From a standpoint, from a standpoint of wanting to win the game. Yeah. Wouldn't you want to keep around the people that suck the most? Right. Yes.

[01:11:31] But you want like the loud, bad trader and then faithful who's like screaming at somebody else at the round table. And then in doing that, you also want to keep the person that is going to give you the best shot catching the traders. Right. So like it should be the mezzanine people that leave. And what I've seen so far is that it's like bottom of the barrel or top of the crop. Yep. Which is weird because it's like neither one of these people are a benefit for you to eliminate. I think we're still playing on like a basic ish. Sorry.

[01:12:01] You know, I'm more like. Don't apologize. Easy playing. The socialites don't give a shit. The big socialites don't give a shit. They ride the middle. Like early Survivor where you could just sit, you could wait and like do nothing until the merge. And then you could, you know what I mean? And now you can't do that anymore. But like, because the game's gotten so complicated. Wouldn't it be doper if on Survivor they changed the merge to the purge and then it turned into that movie and it also slashed Hunger Games where one person you're on the island already. This is based on Survivor. Is it? Yeah. You guys kill each other or no?

[01:12:30] Well, almost. We cushioned the blow. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Survivor in like 20, what's going to be 36, the merge becomes the purge and it's just an all out war. Interesting. We'll workshop that. Jeff. I'm not sure Jeff would go for it, but Jeff, any ideas? A Social Game Soliloquy by Devin Walker. We're so in sync.

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