Survivor 48 Pre-Game Day 3: Star Toomey & Thomas Krottinger

[00:00:00] Hi everybody and welcome to RHAP's Survivor 48 Pre-Season Interviews Day 3. My name is Mike Bloom, we are back. Happy Monday everybody. And if it's not such a happy Monday for you, I've got two Survivor 48 Pre-Season Interviews to help the medicine go down just a little bit smoother as today. I finish up my interviews with the Loggie Tribe by talking with Star and Thomas.

[00:00:28] Now, of course, if you missed my interviews with the other four members of the Loggie Tribe, which includes Bianca, Eva, Joe and Shaheen, be sure to check that out in the archives. And also to make sure you don't miss a second of any future interviews or podcasts, be sure you're subscribed in all forms and mediums. You can go to WeKnowsSurvivor.com to make sure you're subscribed on the podcast side of things. And Rob has a website .com slash YouTube to take a look at all of the video versions.

[00:00:58] of these interviews. And this first person we're talking about today, I will say you may want the visual to go alongside the audio version because it is an excitable, it is an energetic one. A star was born, I guess I should say 28 years ago because we're talking about star to me who is 28 years old. Star currently lives in Augusta, Georgia, but she is actually originally from Monrovia, Liberia.

[00:01:26] And she is a sales expert. I will let her explain exactly what that means, as well as why she feels like she has what it takes to take home the million dollar prize and truly show off her star quality. Without further ado, here's my interview with Star. Why don't you give me your name, your age and your occupation?

[00:01:50] I gotcha. So my name is Star. I am 28 and I do sales. I'm a sales expert. So I sell you your internet. I sell your cell phones and apparels like phone cases. Maybe if you're feeling phone case, a headphone, maybe whatever I can get out of you. I'm definitely going to try to sell it. Interesting. How long have you been doing that for? I've been doing sales for three years now. September will make it four. But it's something that just kind of fell into my lap. I was stuck between what do I really want to do?

[00:02:19] And then I went to school for communication. So I'm like talking sales. It goes hand in hand. So I jumped into it. And so far, so good. I haven't left yet. Yeah. What have you sold your co-workers on in terms of this? Are you like, I'm going on vacation for a month. Don't ask any questions. So really from jump, I already was like, hey, boss, I just want to know, like, you know, I got a kid, right? I'm going to be leaving soon just to take some time off.

[00:02:42] Just to, you know, get really get into him and get to know him a little bit more. And she was like, yeah, take all the time you need. You have to get that bonding. And I'm like, perfect. Newborn act. That's what I use. And I love it because that's the whole point of corporate, right? You have to know how to really work the system. I mean, I'm proud of it. I put my time in. I'm using all my PTO and all my FMLA. I'm here to have a good time. All right.

[00:03:07] So you're a new mother? Yes, I am. So my wife actually did the pushing. Thank God for her. But I am a new mother. My son will be actually one in two weeks. So his birthday is July 8th. So we'll see. Hopefully I'm still here. Yeah. But yeah, thank you so much. He's really good. His name is Silva Mars. He's top notch, no stop. He's the best baby I've ever met. And I've met some pretty good babies. Yeah. But so far, he's actually topped all the other babies I've met. There we go. Number one baby.

[00:03:36] But I mean, I, as a father myself, I know that like, yeah, becoming a parent just like. It changes you. It changes the way you view the world, you know? When I became a parent, I decided I wanted to go and become a millionaire right behind it. So he's actually a blessing. I would not be here if it wasn't for him for real. Really? It was just, it was the middle of the night. My wife was so tired after all the breastfeeding and all the late nights. And so she was asleep. I said I would stay up with him. Yeah. Put on Survivor. We were going to binge Survivor for the time that, you know,

[00:04:04] the first weeks that she was on maternity leave. So I'm watching Survivor. It's 12 a.m. at night. Silver's rocking him to sleep. I'm rocking him to sleep. Next thing I know, Jeff says, do you think you have what it takes to be on Survivor? I looked around. I looked up. I looked down. And I said, yes, I do. Yes, I do. By 3 a.m. I put my recording in. And I did what needed to be done. And here I am talking to you. So I must have did something right. Absolutely. So then when did you start watching the show? What's your history with Survivor?

[00:04:31] So that's the funny thing. I honestly did not start binge watching it until Silver Mars. Really? Like, literally, I've always known about the show, but I never really put much attention to it. It was probably playing in the background when I was a kid. Mm-hmm. Maybe at somebody's house. Maybe, but never on my own. But whenever I'm a movie person. I love TV shows. I love movies. I love binge watching. If you want to see what I'm doing, I'm watching TV. 99, 100% of the time, I'm watching TV. I'm not outside. Yeah.

[00:04:59] If I'm outside, I have my iPad, my tablet. I have something where I'm watching TV. Yeah. So I told my wife we're going to watch Survivor because they were playing, like, nonstop commercials. Like, watch Survivor right now, Paramount+. And I'm like, you know what? I'll watch Survivor. And that's what I saw. That is amazing. It's literally like it was written for me to be on here. Like I said, he was talking to me. Yeah. Jeff was talking to me.

[00:05:25] So then was it, like, a little drip and then you were all in? Did you watch all the seasons? I watched all the seasons. Wow. Like I said, once I was all in, I would say by season, I know by season 12, I had already applied. Wow. And after applying, my wife, she will bet a million dollars on this. We watched that morning up, morning down. Wake up, Survivor's on. If I fell asleep, she's telling me what I missed and we're running it right back. It was basically like it's feedings and it's Survivor.

[00:05:55] It's feedings and Survivor and it was nonstop. It's playing. And she's like, I'm like, babe, we're watching Survivor until I get the call. And even when I get the call, now we're studying Survivor. So sure enough, Survivor has not shut off the TV yet. I promise you they're probably still watching and now they're waiting for me so we can watch us too. So yeah, we're watching. So then let's look back upon all your recent binging. If you could give me a winner and a non-winner who you identify with the most personally and strategically, who is it going to be?

[00:06:22] Oh, see why you hit me with those questions because I'll tell you from the before, before I watched season 42, Sandra Diaz-Twine. After watching season 42, Sandra Diaz-Twine and Marianne. That's my goal right there. And I feel like it's a good balance because I'm a Libra. I always say all the times, I hate this. The Libras always say I'm a Libra. But anyway, I'm a Libra. I'm all about the balance scales. I'm serious. I can be serious.

[00:06:47] When I'm trying to get that money, I'm trying to finesse somebody into buying this phone or maybe I might be running late to work and I got to figure out what I'm going to tell my boss. I'm serious. But I also know how to have a good time. Like Marianne, she was goofy. She was funny. But at the same time, they always underestimated her because they thought that she wasn't playing the game. But the whole time she was. And that's what I'm about. Most times people don't think I'm paying attention. Other times they think I'm just goofy. But no, I know what's going on. I'm just making you think I don't know what's going on.

[00:07:15] What's your favorite moment in Survivor history? Did it have a Sandra or Marianne moment? No, actually, my favorite moment in Survivor history would be whenever Chris won the fire after coming off of I think it was Edge of Extinction. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he won. Like that was crazy. Yeah. He won. He made the fire. Like that right there. And also to season 46. Now when Kenzie was going up against Liz and she made that fire. That was actually pretty dope as well.

[00:07:41] And then the ending for Marianne when she won and she was like telling everybody at the tribal council why she should be. That's right there. I felt that energy. I felt her because she's like, I don't know. I've been playing this game since day one. Yeah. So it's just like moments like that. Not even just from the new era. All of Survivor has changed. You don't get the same season. You don't get the same show. You don't get the same Jeff. Yeah. Jeff pulled out a pillow and got comfortable in season 46. Since when?

[00:08:11] As he did that before. He gave out snacks. You don't even know what to expect. Survivor is always something new and fresh. And that's why I love the show. And I think it is honestly the best show. And I'm not just saying that because I'm on it now. I mean, it's good for me and representation. Yeah. I told you I'm a movie TV connoisseur. Yeah. I know what I'm talking about. What's your favorite shows, by the way? Ooh. Let me test this connoisseur. Charmed. Charmed. The original. Original. The reboot's cute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The reboot's cute. I mean, I watched it, you know, because I'm a loyal charmer.

[00:08:40] But I love my piper. Yeah. Now, my wife's a huge Charmed fan as well. And she knows. She knows. I've been watching Charmed. I promise you, I've probably binge-watched Charmed like a billion times. That's how deep I love it. I've been watching Charmed since I was a kid. Wow. So, yeah. I know pretty much all the episodes. I could watch it and be like, oh, Prue's about to jump off. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Phoebe, yeah. She about to have a premonition right now. Mm-hmm. Talk to me about your preparation for this experience. Because it seems like your life has been through so many different things over the course of

[00:09:09] the past year. Yeah. So, you know, when you're putting that Survivor onto it, what did you do to try to prep for this occasion? Well, of course, I actually learned how to swim. My brother taught me how to swim. I've always said that I'm a tall person that just stands in the water. I never knew, never needed to swim. Don't even dip your head underneath. No, no. I don't go past six feet. Once I get that six, two, three, and I feel my feet leaving the ground, I go back to where I can stand comfortably right at that six foot, six one area mark. Never failed me before. But once again, Survivor is a competition.

[00:09:39] It's a challenge. It's a game show where your water, your land, your air, you really don't even know. He could say, we're jumping out the airplane today and we just got to jump. I don't know. So with that being said, I just wanted to be prepared. And I felt like the best way for me to be confident in swimming because I would hate to be the weak link. Like most times you see somebody carrying that extra body in the water and it just looks so sad. And I don't want to look sad. So I had to learn how to swim. Anything else you did? Make fire, practice puzzles?

[00:10:05] See, that's the, so the, my wife got me like, okay, so I don't know if you, well, I'm sure you know, is this one in the, where they're doing the maze and you got to put the ball in the maze. So she got me like a smaller, smaller version of that maze. And like, it's really, you just got to put the two balls in the middle. So I've been definitely going crazy on that. I didn't make fire. That was my only downfall. And you love the fire making challenge. I didn't make fire because of two reasons.

[00:10:31] Number one, my wife told me I couldn't make fire in our house and I feel her. That's a valid concern. You know? And then number two, when I, the only other place I could make fire is my mom's house and that's a far drive. So I just couldn't do it. But I also said that I'll learn on the island because I feel it'll make me more intimidating if I never made fire at all. And here I am. And you know, everybody's making, everybody's making fire here and there.

[00:11:00] And I'll be one of those people that's making fire. So maybe that'll like make other people not want to pick me for the fire because they see me already doing it. That's true. So it's like, I'm like that. You don't want to go up against me. I make fire for fun. What are you talking about? So they don't need to know. I don't know. And on top of that, we got to fight for the Flint anyway. So once we win the Flint, we can go from there. If we don't win the Flint, we might be trying to make fire with our bare hands. We'll see. What's one life experience you feel has prepared you most for the game?

[00:11:28] Ooh, I think, I hate to get so deep, but I really feel like, I really feel like, it might sound cliche when I say it because a lot of people has lost people in their lives, important people in their lives. But I really feel like the losing my father, the death of my father, I appreciate that. The death of my father helped me and prepared me for this moment here because you're alone on Survivor. You're by yourself on Survivor. Yeah, these people are nice, but it's up to them to be nice to you.

[00:11:55] If I'm crying in the corner, nobody has to come and pat me on the shoulder. Nobody has to tell me it's okay. That's not their job. This is Survivor. You want them to cry. You want them to want to leave. That's the whole point. And you're just good people. So of course, hey, it's okay. But is it really genuine, you know? But I feel like I had to heal myself. I had to pick myself up from my coattails and tell myself to get up. Tell myself to do what I need to do, not just for me, but for my family. All my family, not just my wife, my mom, my brother, my sisters.

[00:12:23] I had to prepare for all of that because I took on the strong suit when my father died. I feel like I am my father, like a girl version of him. And so I carry everybody under my wing like a mama bear, and I just want to protect all of them. But how can you protect everybody when you're literally falling into pieces? Yeah. You have to pick yourself up and get it together. If not, you're really fucked. Well, that's the thing, right? When you're on a plane and the oxygen bags come down, they say, put it on yourself for something else.

[00:12:48] And I found myself drowning in everybody else's, trying to save everybody else. Yeah. But when I was literally drowning, looking for somebody to save me, nobody was there because I put on the face to where you don't even know I'm really struggling. You don't know I'm sad today because I'm laughing and smiling. And those, like you said, check on your happy friends too. So once again, I had to pick myself up because nobody was really checking up on me. And then finally, when I picked myself up and I became a better me, everybody wants to come back and be all cool and friendly.

[00:13:17] And it's like, yeah, because no one wants to deal with the tears. Everybody wants to deal with the happy star. And so I had to tell myself, hey, do you want to be sad star for the rest of your life? Or do you want to be happy star? What would you say is your biggest superpower and your biggest piece of kryptonite that you think is going to play into your game? My biggest superpower, I would definitely say is, oh, that's a tough one. I got a lot. There you go. I would say my charm. My charm, I think, works a lot because I got to go away with words.

[00:13:47] I'm a person that really doesn't have to think before they speak because the words just come out so naturally. And I think that's a good quality to have. Of course, sometimes I do have to think because, you know, you can't just say everything. But most times I really don't because everything that comes out my mouth is genuine. Yeah. And I feel like that's really a good quality to have because in a game where everybody doesn't know if you're telling the truth or not, if I can honestly come to you and you can come to me and you look you in your eye and talk to you as if we've been knowing each other forever, that's going to go a long way. Yeah, you'll trust me even if I'm lying to you.

[00:14:16] Once again, I do sales, you know? Yeah. But I think that's a good, that's like my superpower and then my kryptonite. Kryptonite is like your weakness, right? Mm-hmm. Mm. Swimming. Nah, I guess that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I know I'm athletic. Yeah. And in a game where once again you have to run, you have to swim, you have to jump, that's a whole lot of in one and so my athleticism can only get me so far if I don't have technique,

[00:14:44] if I don't have strategy, if I don't really know the base stuff at all, the foundation. So I can run on the ground, but if I can't swim, what good is that going to make me in a challenge where we're coming from the water, going to the land and I'm still in the water? That's true. That's true. So I'm intrigued. You mentioned, of course, sales experience. I mean, how much are you going to be forthcoming with that? Because we know sometimes some people see salesperson are like, okay, what are you trying to, you're going to lie to me all the time. So I'm not telling anyone I do sales. I'm a stay-at-home mom. Okay.

[00:15:15] Yep. And even then, I don't even know if I want to say that because, you know, we're so stuck on the storyline. Everybody thinks that you need a story to come on Survivor when that's really not the case at all. You could be the most boring person as long as you have something, a genocide about you, a charisma that says why you should be here. You don't need a sad story or a long story or a happy story. So I feel like a lot of times people put so much energy on the story of where you came from versus the story of what's happening on the show and what's going to happen each

[00:15:44] day you're processing living through Survivor. So I'm still trying to debate who do I really want to present myself as? And that's the tough part for me because, once again, my name is Star. I think people are going to already have something gunning for me because that's a name you can't forget. So if somebody's at the- That's your mom's fault. That's what you're saying. And you know what's funny? My grandmother named me Star. Really? Yeah. Because my grandma didn't like the name my dad gave me. It was like, I was a junior to him.

[00:16:12] All his kids' names start with an L. Literally. Wow. Literally. My older- And you're not here to take an L? Not here to take no Ls. Like, at all. From my older sibling all the way down, everybody starts with him. Except for the last. My mom said, I gotta stop you right there. So when my grandma- When he told my grandma my name, my grandma said, no, that's an ugly name. I'm gonna name her Star. And I appreciate that. I've been Star for all my life. I'll tell you that much. So I know that's a name you really can't forget. I'm a person you can't forget.

[00:16:41] You cannot forget me. Yeah. Even if you know me for him, you'll be like, dang, that girl. I know something about her. You just can't forget it. So I'm just hoping that although my name is Star, it doesn't stay in anybody's brain too long. Especially on the first week. Yeah. Not until they get to know me. Let's talk about some of these other stars in a manner of speaking. Let's talk about your competition. Because I'm sure you've been- Oh, yeah. I've been eyeing. You've been eyeing. So talk to me about, let's start with the positive stuff. Let's say, who are you picking up good vibes from?

[00:17:10] That like, in a perfect world, day one, you hit the beach. This is my ride or die. Describe them to me. Well, I will tell you, and I am not ashamed to say, and if I get any black lash, I don't care. This is the finest looking face card does not decline survivor cast ever, really. And once again, I'm sorry, but we fine. We baddies from the men to the women. Everybody is, everybody look good. Like, and that's the problem. When people look good, you don't even know.

[00:17:40] At least before, you had to like, oh, she has a smile. Oh, she has the looks. Oh, she has body. Ooh, gotta worry about- No, everybody looks good. Right. Everybody literally has the smile. Everybody has the face. Everybody has probably the charisma and the personality to follow along with it. And I feel like that's what's gonna actually throw everything off. How can you know this person is telling the truth? Because they smile just like you. Yeah. And so, I will say, I did notice about that. Everybody looks good.

[00:18:09] Captain America, I don't know his name, but he looked like Captain America. Okay. He's built. He's strong. That's somebody that I want as a friend because I need strength. As you can see, I'm a little skinny. I got muscle, though. Don't let these bones fool you. Don't let it fool you. I'm strong. No, it doesn't matter the size. It's how you use it. It don't matter the size. Remember little Charlie from season 46? That man, that skinny thing, he was strong. So, yeah, but Mr. Captain America, I want him on my team. It's a couple of people. I've seen somebody.

[00:18:38] She looks like a mom, a little older. I want her on my team as well because I feel like those are the ones that can go under and be your silent assassin. They can hear and come back to you with the details. Hey, they're talking about you. Hey, your name is getting brought up. Whether good or bad, I need somebody to tell me because I might not be in the popular crew. I might be with the quiet ones. Yeah. Who knows? I don't know until we get there because everybody's personality is hard to tell. Are they like me? Are they not? Who's the loud one?

[00:19:06] Who's the cool kids, the athletes, the geeks? What's going on here? So, and I'm a person. I'm everything. I'm a Harry Potter lover. Uh-huh. I'm a vampire lover. I like all the vampire shows. I'm there. I love every vampire show. I will watch it. I literally have been watching going crazy. So, that's the thing. I'm a good mix of everything. I can hang with the cool kids, but I can also be with the quiet people because I'm shy as well. Yeah.

[00:19:31] If it's a group of cool kids, I'm going to shut up because now I got to watch and see what y'all going to do. Especially because I used to be bullied in, like, elementary school. So, you know what I'm saying? And that little childhood me still comes in as, like, in a shell because it's like, are they going to like me? Are they, will they not? Will they think I talk too much? Will I be too much? But at the end of the day, you just got to be yourself. And I feel like being myself, whether it gets me in the game, gets me past, or gets me out on the first day, I'm here for it. But, of course, I'm not trying to go out on the first date. No. My worst fear is being Francesca.

[00:20:01] Absolutely. Two times over. Two times over. I don't want to be Francesca. Sorry, Francesca girl. Well, let's talk about the other side of things. Who's repelling you like a vampire in garlic? Who are people that you're not vibing with? Okay. So, it's hard to say who I'm not vibing with. It's more so who I'm looking sideways at. It's a couple of people I'm kind of looking like, I don't know if I want to talk to you. Interesting. Describe them to me. Do you want to give me a challenge? What? Listen, this could be your best friends. You're right.

[00:20:31] This could be my best friend. So, there's this one girl. I don't know. She has braids, and she just looks like she's just a little high maintenance, a little bit. Just a little bit more like she won't really work on the island. It just looks like you'll have to pull her weight is what it's giving. Just from the certain things that I'm seeing her do right now. Like, she's not getting up to throw her stuff away. That's a tell.

[00:21:00] Why aren't you getting up to throw your stuff away? You're two feet from the trash can. That doesn't make sense to me. I'm ten feet from the trash can. I'm still getting up. Yeah. It's just little things like that. I mean, it's a hot day. Maybe that's a factor. But also, too, we're all hot. What makes you so special? So, that's just a little, uh. But once again, I could be saying this now, and then when we get on the island, and we could be the best of friends, and I'll tell a girl, I was talking about you. Like a doubt. But, until then, it's just something about that.

[00:21:29] And then, I mean, it's a couple of people I think are looking at me funny, but also, too, I'm not sure if it's in my head or if they're really looking at me funny. That's the thing. It's tough to be like, to say these things, and also be like, there's a very good chance people are saying the same thing about me. And so, that also, to your point about the attractiveness, like, it all kind of puts you on an equal playing field, too. Yeah, for sure. Because that whole new chapter gets written once you all hit the beach. Exactly. And on top of that, nobody can be like, oh, I'm going to use my looks. We all got looks. Yeah, exactly. So, what you going to use for real? You can't just use your smile. We all got smiles.

[00:21:57] Well, you ask about what are you going to use. I mean, let's talk about aisles, advantages, journeys. How much are you going to incorporate that into your game? So, my thing from day one, and the advice, I'll tell you right now, my older sister and her husband love Survivor. Uh-huh. Since I told them, like, dedicated fans, dedicated fans, like, faithfully watching every single time, every single season. And they literally gave me a rule, a rule list of what to do.

[00:22:27] Don't say too much to Jeff. Look for the idols, but don't make it obvious. Don't say a name. Let the name come to you. And I'm like, okay, don't say a name. Don't give Jeff too much information. But that's the hard part. I'm here for the information. I'm here to tell you the tea. Mm-mm. So, that right there, I feel, will be my downfall because, you know, I'm not going to hold anything back. Whatever happens on that camp, I'm going to tell it up in Tribal Council. They're going to have to tell me not to tell because I will tell because that's what we're here for. What's the tea?

[00:22:56] When the cameras can only be at certain places, I'm going to be there to tell you what you're missing. I love that. So, it feels like the past two seasons in particular, 45, 46, like, took such a step in a different direction than the rest of the new era. I mean, as you're prepping for this experience, did you have any takeaways from those two seasons in particular that you want to incorporate into your own game? I did, especially for 46 because I don't know what was going on with them. Like, nobody played an idol for the life of me.

[00:23:23] I was screaming on the TV, play your fucking idol, please. And nobody played it. So, that's the thing for me. I feel like, will I be idol happy? And just, I don't know. Jeff! Yeah. Jeff! And now it's drawing attention to me because now they're like, nah, we got to get Star out of here. She finds idols out of ass. And I'm like, okay. So, I got to do it different. I'm just trying to see time and place. But I know that I told myself before even coming here, go with my gut. My gut never failed me before.

[00:23:51] And anytime I don't listen to my gut, I always end up in a sticky situation. So, I'm just going to go with my gut. And if I'm sitting at Tribal and I got that idol in my sock, which is going to be my hiding place, I will use it every time. Or I will use it for somebody. I do want to hit a poverty. Oh, yeah. And use it for somebody else and sit down looking like, yeah. So, yeah, I'm like that. I'm trying to see here. Like, I don't want to put too much emphasis on it because then I'm going to get in my head.

[00:24:19] Like, I saw myself already looking at the merge and one of the producers was like, just take it day one. And I'm like, you're right. You're right. It's just you watch the show. Yeah. And the show just plays. And now you're here. And you're like, what do I do? Right. What am I going to do? No, you have, you know, 700 episodes of Survivor running through your head. These are all the things I have to plan. All I hear is Boston Rob, you have to make fire in order to win Survivor. And then I remember Charlie who literally did not make fire and he could have won just by going up against Kenzie and making fire.

[00:24:49] Like, it's just you timing, timing, timing, timing. And then also too is like, do I want to be annoying? Because it seems like the people, the annoying people don't get kicked off. But this season, they might. Yeah. So you really don't know. You just got to see what everybody is really working with. If you could bring, now I'm going to, you know, bask into your TV knowledge here. Let's go. You're going to bring a celebrity or a fictional character out as a loved one for a loved one's visit. Who are you picking?

[00:25:20] Oh, wow. That's good right there. Try to pull upon your knowledge. A celebrity, like a random celebrity, right? Yeah, celebrity or a fictional. Or a fictional character. Only rules that can't be your family member. Yeah. Excuse me. Okay. I would, are you familiar with the originals and vampire diaries? Yes. My wife watches both. She's like you. She's an avid vampire watcher. You have a great wife. Oh, thank you. Klaus Michelson. More Hope Michelson. I love Hope.

[00:25:48] I've always loved Hope. I've always wanted to meet Hope, but now the show isn't, you know, on anymore. So it's like, I'll never meet Hope. But Klaus or Hope Michelson, because they're badasses, like for real, man, I got them. I'm winning. Hey, they're going to use their vampire, they'll use their vampire muscles, superpowers, and I'm getting on, man. Yeah, they can glamour people if they want to be going by like True Blood rules. First of all, I would have, they would have glamoured and I would have already won. You went to Jeff, like we're already on day 25, day 26. Are you ready now?

[00:26:18] Yeah, this is the jury. This is the jury and Star's already won. Okay, now we're going home. We're doing the reunion show right now. It's already time and that's it. So if I could, I would definitely bring them back or Piper from Charm because she can freeze people. So if she freezes people, then I'm really winning. Freeze everybody. Let me go find all the idols. That's true. Let me find all the wear advantages. Let me get everything. Well, you jump in the water and freeze everybody. Yeah, freeze. Star's first, back to the short. And I'm already first. And I'm already first.

[00:26:48] So that's like, oh man, if people had superpowers, if I had a superpower, then I think I'd do either read the minds or mind control like a magneto. Last thing I want to ask. We know that Survivor 50 is around the corner. It's going to be returnees. Talk to me about that. How are you going to make your mark right now on 48? We're going to be talking a year from now. I'm going to make sure I'm the people's choice. What?

[00:27:18] The people are going to love me. People already love me. But once I'm on there, once I'm in there, I'm not wasting time. I'm like, I already know. Just don't hold nothing back. Like, this is a game. This is a game that a lot of people wish they could be on. And you're on there. I don't even know how many applications were denied just so I can get on here. Sorry for the denies. But thank God it was me. And I'm ready to come back. I haven't even started. I'm ready to come back. I'm going to come back. Don't worry about it. You'll be talking to me again soon.

[00:27:46] Well, no matter what, I'm glad we're talking today because this was so much fun. I appreciate how you say that to everybody. I don't. Like, sincerely, I get such a great energy. No, I appreciate that. I'm sure I'm far from the first or the last person to tell you that. That is facts. And I think, you know, as long as it all works out, it's going to be a great journey. That's true. I think so. I think so. Like I said, that's the thing about the game. People lose, people win. I played basketball for a majority of my life. I took a lot of losses and probably more losses than wins. Not saying I'm a loser, though. I'm taking some wins.

[00:28:15] But I'm just saying in general, if you have to know how to take the losses, come back and do better. So once again, of course, everybody wants to make it to the end. Of course, I want to make it to the end. But if not, I'll just be happy for the experience and be happy that I did it and gave it my all. I'm hungry to win. And there you have it. My interview with Star to me. A really fun time talking, vibing with Star. I am so intrigued to see if this energy is going to be brought to the game and if it will

[00:28:44] ever hit a wall or if she's just going to keep this je ne sais quoi bottled for the entirety of 26 days. I will say if there is one person who might be able to be this consistently energetic, despite all the deprivational elements around her, it might be Star. But we are not done with the Loggie tribe just yet. I have one more interview coming up right after the break. All right.

[00:29:11] We finish off our interviews with the Loggie tribe with Thomas Crotinger. We've talked about the beard. Let's talk about the stash. Thomas is 34 years old, originally from the Woodlands, Texas, and currently resides in Los Angeles. And he is a music executive. He currently works in A&R. He will explain all of that, including his day-to-day minutiae in our interview.

[00:29:40] And very excited to see what song he has to sing over the course of these next 26 days on the island. Let's close out the song of Loggie with its final verse, my interview with Thomas. Hey, my name is Thomas Crotinger. I'm 34 and I am an A&R. So talk to me about this because, yeah, it's a big deal, obviously. Playing Survivor? Well, I mean, working at A&R as well. Oh, yeah. I mean, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:30:10] So I work at a publishing company. Okay. So not a record label. Okay. So we're kind of like the secret underground part of the music business. Interesting. Yeah. I could bore you with like the difference between a recording and the underlying composition. I know it's a whole thing. Like when you hear the song Hello by Adele, like you think of the recording of Hello by Adele that Columbia Records owns. Yeah.

[00:30:36] But inherent in that recording is an underlying composition, which is the song itself that was written by Adele and Greg Kirsten. Wow. And so I am on the composition side of things. So my job is to find people that make music and help them make music, however that goes. You're underselling it. That was not boring at all. I think that's such an interesting element of like getting too far. It's not to compare it too much to Survivor, but like I'm sure you've come out here and seen all the things that happen behind the scenes.

[00:31:06] To get the product that's in front of us. It's not too dissimilar from the work you're doing either. Yeah. Yeah. I'm definitely like a behind the scenes, like in the DNA of songs, as opposed to like the marketing, the music video, creative direction, that part of the business. How long have you been working there? Is the music industry something you always want to be involved in? I originally wanted to be an actor. Okay. And that's why I came to LA. That's why I moved out West and quickly realized when I was talking about sales figures

[00:31:33] and charts positions in rehearsal that no one cared. And I needed to like find somewhere to like water that garden. Oh, interesting. So I like took a music law class in college and like fell in love with the music business. And then I just interned all around town and got some really amazing mentors and then got my first gig at an agency and then kind of tricked my way into A&R because I had no experience. And ever since then, I've just kind of like conned my way up.

[00:32:02] So you say like whatever. So let's talk about what line you sold to get here. You know, what made you decide to trade in bars of music for, you know, bars on a bamboo perch? Oh my God. Well, I started watching the show during the pandemic. Okay. So like I started watching it in 2022 and I like mainlined 42 seasons in like nine months or something. Oh my God. I know I was like, I would watch what I would cook and like, you know, do you know what I mean? Like it was just like on.

[00:32:32] And so I fell in love with the game and there was a part of me that was like, you should, you should apply. You should go do this. Like I tell all of my writers, my artists, like be vulnerable, chase your dreams. Like I encouraged my husband to like do his thing, my friends to like go after what inspires them. And so I was like, what if I like went after something I loved? What if I like did it? And then I got the call that it was like happening. And I was like, Oh my God, I'm doing it. Like it was like instant terror.

[00:33:02] Um, but honestly, that's the reason I'm here is because I feel like my job and my role and the way I function is kind of cheering other people on. And now this is kind of a moment for me to do something that I love and take time for myself, which is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Yeah. You're that composer that like goes for everybody and now gets pushed into the spotlight and you get to perform solo. Like I can't believe like we're talking. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. This is good. This is weird. Well, let's look back upon your recent blitz through survivor history.

[00:33:31] Give me one winner and one non-winner who you identify with the most personally, strategically, et cetera. Uh, I would say winner is Sophie Clark. Hands down. I'm obsessed with her. She is a queen. I feel like she needs to be in like the all time greats. Like, don't get me wrong. I love my Parvities. Like I bow at their altar, but like Sophie, I think I just see more of myself in Sophie than Parvity. Um, and then a non-winner who I think is great would be Mike White. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I love him. And he's the kind of...

[00:34:00] Are you just saying that to get into the White Lotus? No, no, please no. Um, please no. Um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, I'm saying it because I think he's the kind of the reason that gave me permission to do it. Right. Cause he like has such an amazing career and is taken seriously, but still like loves the game. And he said something about like, you have to be open to like making a fool of yourself or being vulnerable or something to play this game. And so he did it. And I was like, interesting. I could, like, I could do that.

[00:34:29] And I'm not saying that I am Mike White, like the man wrote school of walk of rock and the White Lotus. Like he is on another level, but I think just someone like working entertainment and not being afraid to put themselves out there. Yeah. It was like, it kind of was like opening the gate and saying like, you can do this. Like, here's the blueprint. So what would you say is one life experience that has prepared you the most for this as much as you can be prepared? Oh, I, okay. So I don't know if it's like one life experience, but I would say it's just like my career in general.

[00:34:59] So I have a very good friend. She works at a record label. And early in my time as a A&R person, I realized that someone else on my own team was kind of snaking me. And I was like, sir. And I remember texting her and being like, I work in a Viper pit. And her response, we all work in a Viper pit. And I was like, you're right. This is the music business. Like, like keep your friends close, your enemies closer. That whole thing is true.

[00:35:28] Because even though like I'm on a team, we all row together. Like we have healthy competition internally. Um, and we like push each other to be better. But I have to always like be on guard because I still want, I want to be the person that signs the big artists, not my teammate. But if they do, that is great. And I love that for us. But like, you know, you want to, you both want to be like pushing the company forward and like bringing value to the table. Yeah. I love that, that it really is survivor in a nutshell, which is this collaborative aspect.

[00:35:57] Like no one can be on their own, but there's so much individualism. Correct. Because one person's going to win. Correct. Only one person has the number one. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And like you want to have the number one. The good thing about the music business and the team that I'm on is that we can take turns doing that and it's all gravy. The difference is here. It's one person gets number one for the season and it's done. And then it's also like relying on the other team members you fired to then say, okay, who's the best employee out of the last three of us? Correct.

[00:36:27] Or like, could you imagine like, like working at a label and like the artists you drop have to declare you the winner or something? Yeah. Or like the deals you passed on have to decide that you're the best? Yeah. I love it. So in terms of preparation, once you found out you were coming out here, when you got that call and you were, you know, flummoxed, what was the prep? I literally went silent. When I got the call, it literally was like, they were like, how do you feel about being on Survivor 48? And I was like, I need you to explain that.

[00:36:55] I was like, I need you to like give me the words. Like you are in the cast. Like I need you to like go there and then I can react. So once you find it out, once you are able to finally get that thought in your head, what was the prep like to get here? Okay. So the second, it's weird. I have one of my best friends at work, uh, literally like the day I was like, I'm applying for Survivor. She literally rolled her eyes and she was, she literally was like, this is so annoying. Like you're going to get it. And then I'm going to have to cover your entire roster for weeks while you're gone.

[00:37:24] And I was like, okay. I was like, whatever. So, um, I don't know. In that moment, it kind of made me think like I should have a plan of some kind. I was like, cause like what if this does happen? If your coworker has a plan, you probably should as well. I know. And I was like, she's never seen an episode of the show. So she wasn't gonna be helped me plan. Yeah. Um, but my, basically I stopped drinking. Which is like in the music business is harder than it sounds. But then I kind of like came to love it and I was like, oh, why is everyone drunk at this mixer? And I was like, oh, that's normal.

[00:37:53] Um, uh, I gave up caffeine, which is like, I'm gay. So like we like live for cold brews. Do you know what I mean? It's like, it's like part of like our, our natural diet to stay alive and stay powerful in our gayness. Um, literally like I got a lot of people. I go to sleep thinking about the cold brew I'm going to have the next morning. Oh my God. I love it. When you get that coffee reward, like you drop everything to have it. I'm not going to do it. Are you kidding?

[00:38:23] It'll all mentally be broken. I guess that's true. Yeah. Yeah. You built yourself up to this point. Correct. Why stop now? Correct. Literally. Like I look at a diet Coke and I'm like, no, even though I love diet Coke. And then I'm like, spike too many calories. Get away from it. But I gave up caffeine, which was, I would have like two cups of coffee in the morning that I brewed and then like a cold brew or two at the, like, it was nuts. Yeah. Like giving up caffeine. I had my withdrawals were like textbook. I had not only was like a lethargic, I was like wanting to fall asleep in like meetings,

[00:38:52] but I was like, had anxiety and mood swings. I was like, this is good that I'm giving it up. I'm going to bring it right back just for the record. Okay. So alcohol, caffeine. Um, and then I just, I like called up my trainer from our wedding. Then I was like, hi, can you like work me out like hard, but like not crazy hard. Like, I just want to be really like tight and like strong. She's like, what? I was like, stop asking questions. One question is too many. Yeah.

[00:39:22] I was like, I was like, I leave in like however many weeks. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, we need core. We need back. We need legs and we need grip strength. And she's like, okay. So then I started working with her. Her name's Shannon. She's the best. Um, and then I started going to physical therapy just to like, you know, tune-ups. I'm 34. I like, I don't know. I like literally look at all these kids and I'm like, how am I the old one? Like I used to be the young, like the young pup, like with like a bushy tail and like could

[00:39:52] conquer the world. And now I'm like, you look like you're 22 years old. So I was like, I'm going to go to physical therapy. So that's kind of what I did. What would you say is your biggest superpower? Oh. And your biggest piece of kryptonite. Oh. That are may incorporate into your game. Okay. My biggest superpower, which is also my kryptonite. Okay. Double-edged sword. Yes.

[00:40:16] Is that I really love people and I have a tendency to make people feel like we are closer than we actually are. So it's great because I think it's going to serve me in the game where we can all get along. Yeah. But that will probably cost me because I think I'll probably look like the biggest backstabber and liar, if that makes sense. Yeah. So like jury management will be hard. My other kryptonite is that I'm very emotional and quick to react. Hmm. Yeah.

[00:40:44] I know you wrote in your bio that you have no patience for fools. No, I wrote that. That's hysterical. I mean, I would say that, you know, not to say that Survivor is a fool's game, but ideally they cast to bring in maybe people that are, have foolish behavior. Oh, totally. A little, I'm down with like some fun, but I'm like not down for like. Like stupidity, but let's do this. Do you know what I mean? Especially if we're aligned. Yeah, that's true. Like head in the game. How do you think you're going to be perceived? Cause you talk about being that people person. Do you think that you're going to be seen as like the social butterfly, life of the party, et cetera?

[00:41:15] I have no idea. Hmm. Maybe. I think that like, yeah, I think that I'm, my goal is to have a lot of fun while playing this game. Very good goal. Right. And I want the people I'm playing with to have fun too. Hmm. But I also don't want, I don't want to be the social butterfly. Cause I think like, look at recent winners. Jam Jam. Mm-hmm. Kenzie. Like those people had social game.

[00:41:44] So, and I'm on the purple tribe. Hmm. So I'm like, stop it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I was like, number one, I need Flint. And number two can't be Mr. Personality. So like in the back of my mind, I'm like, okay, I'll get along with everybody. And then I'll pick one person to have conflict with. So then it looks like, do you know what I mean? I think I need to have a little friction. Will they be aware of that? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And I'm like looking at everybody. I'm like, I kind of like you all, but like, I have to pick one of you to have an issue with. Maybe it'll come naturally with my short temper. There might be a fool.

[00:42:13] There might be a fool. Yeah. Yes. So then on that note, listen, I'll maybe set it up for you here. Cause I'm sure you've been eyeballing people. I'm sure you've been trying to pick up vibes. Yeah. Well, let's start on the positive side. Cause you talk about liking so many people, but is there anyone you're picking up particularly good vibes from? Describe to me some people that you're like, best case scenario, you're hitting the beach day one. This is a ride or die for you. I love this blonde woman with curly hair. Like I'm obsessed with her. She has fun nails. I love her hair. I love her glasses. Like she was like reading a Michael Crichton book.

[00:42:43] I was like, what's going on? I like that. Um, she's wearing a shirt that said San Antonio. And I was like, are you from Texas or you just like Texas? Cause I'm from Texas. I don't know. I really like her. I really, really like her. That would be like best case is like we get on the boat and it's like us in purple. So then what about the other side of things? Anyone you're not picking up good vibes from are like you have trouble reading. Here's the thing.

[00:43:09] I like, I know because like, I know that they have no idea that I have a personality right now, you know? I know that I'm like judging a book by its cover. But that's the fun of it. That's the fun of it. This could be your future best friend you're talking about. That's what freaks me out is like, is like, what if I'm like, I don't like you. And then it's literally like, I'm like marrying you in 10 years. Cause that's why I officiate weddings. I've done three. Yeah. Fun. You have competition with Jeff then. Oh, does he officiate weddings? He does officiate weddings. Stop it. Okay.

[00:43:39] Let's go. He officiated, do you know Jenna Fisher, Pam from The Office? Yeah. He officiated her wedding. Stop. Yeah. She's a huge Survivor fan. Unreal. That's also freaky to me, Mike. Yeah. That like, these like, people are Survivor fans. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I like, Sarah Michelle Gellar is a Survivor fan. Yeah. Like, Buffy is the greatest show ever made. Other than Survivor. But like, do you know what I mean? Like, the fact that like, there is a world in which she and Freddie Prinze sit down and they're like, oh, season 48, let's start. And then it's like, my dumb face. Yeah.

[00:44:09] It's like, that's nuts. Like, I keep forgetting that people are going to get to watch this. Yeah. It's a wild thing to think about. Cause I'm sure you're going to have so many things running through your head in the game. But like, you're not really thinking about, oh yeah, in about nine months afterwards. I have to deal with this. In a good way, hopefully. Cause we'll be watching you win. Yeah. Is there anyone you can think of that, that you're picking up at least weird vibes from or are doing things at Ponderosa that are red flags? Not really.

[00:44:36] I can't get a read how to describe them. There is a young gentleman with long hair and I cannot get a read on him. His books are covered. I like, can't quite crack the code. Interesting. Yeah. So I'm just like intrigued. I'm like, who are you, JP? So let's talk about advantages. Obviously the DNA of the new era is filled with idols, journeys, et cetera.

[00:45:05] How much are you going to incorporate that? Cause you said you're such a social person. Is that going to come at the cost of, of trying to, you know, go out of your way to look for stuff? Listen, I feel personally like advantages are, are incredible. If you can keep them to yourself. I feel like new era, like chaos comes from thinking and tell one person about it. Like I'm old school. I'm like idle in my underwear. We're never speaking about it.

[00:45:35] Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like also like not leaving it in my bag. Um, my plan is just kind of hopefully try and figure out where they are and weaponize that information. Or maybe if I come across one, lead someone to it. So I know they have it. Interesting. And then I can use that against them down the road. If you know what I mean? I don't want to beware advantage. Okay. I like don't want it. I want to know who has it. And I want to tell everyone else that they have it. If that makes sense. No, it absolutely does.

[00:46:05] Watch me find one like tomorrow. That's the fun of this too. You know, is that we, we all make these claims, but when push comes to shove, sometimes it changes. Sometimes it does it. So, but we have seen people in the past lead others to find me where advantages, but, and I think especially when you watch people go home with idols in their pockets four times in a row, maybe then you're, you're a little more skittish to not find them. Oh yeah. Literally. My husband was like, you get an idol, you fucking play it. I was like, I don't know, babe. He's like, you play the idol. You were already getting in there and I'm like, yeah, but it depends on the situation. Totally. He was like, play the idol.

[00:46:34] I was like, okay, fine. So when it comes to, I would say alliances, like number ones, I mean, you spoke about someone that you would really want to, to confide in. Watch me hate her. You never know. That'd be so sad. But is there, is there a particular quality? Is it a vibe? Is there something you're looking for in particular in an alliance, no matter how many people are in it? Okay. So there are, there's like two different types of alliance partners in my brain.

[00:47:02] There's number one, my real number one, the person that I feel like I can trust, who trusts me, we share information. I feel like we were actually tight and it's like a D Julie situation. Do you know what I mean? Not a D Austin situation. That makes sense. Yes. That is like, that is the Holy Grail. The other part of alliance that I'm looking is I'm looking to align myself with big threats. Because I want to know if the tables start turning and shots are coming our way, I'm not the first target. Yeah.

[00:47:32] Like I want it to be my man with the muscles or like my puzzle guy. Like I don't want it to be me. I want the warning shot to be blood on the battlefield, someone else's. If that makes sense. Yeah, it definitely does. So then when it comes to the past couple of seasons, you mentioned, you know, your husband's advice about idols. You mentioned D, Julie, Austin. It definitely feels like 45 and 46 took the new era in a definitive step. Yeah. What have been some of your takeaways, especially once you found out you were going to be on the show?

[00:48:00] I'm sure you were watching with one eye being like, all right, here are some takeaways I can incorporate into my own game. Yeah. It was like, she's wearing shoes in the water. He's not. Like she's changed for this challenge. He hasn't like stuff like that. But that's not the real question. Yeah. So what do you plan on incorporating into your game? I guess even though, you know, proper footwear is an important part of the game. It is. In the recent seasons, people really care about their resumes.

[00:48:26] I think that has become such a storyline and they really care about taking out their number one. Being the first person to take the shot. Yeah. Not my vibe. Interesting. Yeah. Like I, I feel like if people are caring about their resumes, I think that that's something to use against other people to get me to the end and pit people against each other. Um, and then I am not a takeout. My number one ally just like for to put it on a resume. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

[00:48:53] Like if I, if I'm looking at final three and I think my number one person, my, my number one will beat me. Yes. I will slit their throat in the middle of the night and I hope they forgive me and we can be friends. If they do that to me, I will be devastated, but good game. Um, but I also, I'm like a very loyal person. If, if like you're a real one, you're a real one. And I would love to go to the end with my number one.

[00:49:20] And I feel like that's not the norm right now and people aren't into it. And so part of me kind of wants to buck the trend and be like old school has returned. It's like Parvati and Amanda, we're sitting there. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. That's my vibe. Absolutely. So I want to ask your hottest take on Survivor. What's your, what's your most controversial opinion about a player, a season, et cetera?

[00:49:43] My most controversial opinion about Survivor that the advantage Palooza isn't a bad thing. Interesting. I feel like people are really hung up on like old school, new school, new era and all the differences.

[00:50:08] And like, I think the literal point of Survivor is to be adaptable and figure it out. And if there are 10 advantages in the game, I think that's part of it. I mean, do I think it's a little crazy when it's like you see someone's name and it's like, all the things? Yes. But I do feel like you have to try things out in this game to see what works and what doesn't. And I think that if you have captivating, interesting people playing the game, that's really all that matters. No matter what gets into the nooks and crannies of the game.

[00:50:38] So I'm a person who's kind of like, I don't think the advantages are bad. Let's just see what happens. Watch it. I'm like, I'm Sari in Game Changers and I'm the only person without one and go home. I'll be like, I have a new opinion. Yeah, exactly. Well, let's talk about speaking of Survivor history. What's your favorite moment? My favorite moment of Survivor history? I mean, when the Black Widow Brigade takes the necklace from Eric.

[00:51:07] I know you were mentioning Parvati and Amanda. So I didn't know if it was the case you mentioned Sari as well. I love Sari. I love, literally, here's my thing. I love that women are winning in the new era. I love that it's 4-2 right now. Yeah. Okay. We're going to even that up this season, but it's going to be another gay man. So it's like kind of the same. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I really, I think what's really cool about that moment on a couple of different levels

[00:51:36] is that it had to, it was obviously women coming together, which everyone's so scared of. And then you look at like how many female alliances have actually worked. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Like it's this like boogeyman that make, boogey woman that makes no sense. But like, I love that they came together and there was a newbie involved. Yeah. I love that Natalie was a part of it. I don't know. I love that moment. I think that's probably my favorite season. I don't know. There are so many things. No, I mean, it's a big one. It's a good one.

[00:52:04] And like you said, it's a crowning moment for Mount Rushmore Alliance. I also love when Sophie Clark won her season. Yeah. I thought she really deserved it. She's probably like the player that I think I'm most similar to out of everybody. Um, so I loved her win. Literally, I was like watching that. I don't remember if I was like cooking bolognese or something. And I remember just like being like, this bitch doesn't take the W. I'm going to lose my mind. Like she played so hard and so well. But yeah, probably Parv and Sophie.

[00:52:33] If you could bring. Parv as if she's my. Parv. I mean, listen. Hey, Parv. You talk about Sarah Michelle Gellar watching. SMG. Yeah. Parvity could be someone who's watching along, commenting as well. And now she's part of the tribe, the community. Yes. Welcome. Absolutely. Yeah. She welcomes you into the survivor tribe and you reverse it. Yes. I love that. We should have a dinner. Exactly. Parvity, if you're listening. Yeah. It's an invitation is extended right now. If you could bring, speaking of SMG. Yeah.

[00:53:02] A celebrity or a fictional character out for a loved one's visit. Who are you bringing in? Why? Oh, holy night. It has. It's like it can be anyone. It can be anybody. As long as it's not in your family, basically. Right. Okay. A celebrity? Living or dead? It could be either or. Okay. Or a fictional character. Oh my God. That's terrible. You just said Sarah. So I'm just like, huh, Sarah? No. But I love you. It would just be too, like, on the nose right now.

[00:53:32] Mm-hmm. Let's get a little creative. Um. Okay. I know who I'd bring. Okay. I would bring Dorinda Medley from the real Housewives of New York. And recently The Traitors. Yes. And recently The Traitors. I think people are going to be underestimating Dorinda on The Traitors. So I'm not a Housewives person, but I have been sent some Dorinda clips and they are. Clip. Yeah. Unbelievable. I made it nice. Yeah. How you doing? Not well, bitch.

[00:54:03] Yeah. She's pretty iconic. Yeah. That would be pretty amazing. And plus it's also a little bit like she played with the survivor players. Now she gets to see the other side of things. Also the thought of like seeing Dorinda Medley on an island and like me being disgusting. I would be like, I hope I'd win. And she had to do like, you stay at the camp for a night. Then I'd be like, I made it nice. Like, it would just be fun. We'd have a great time. Last thing I want to ask is obviously 50 is on the horizon. It's returnees.

[00:54:29] How are you going to make your mark on 48 so that we're going to be having a conversation this time next year? Okay. Here's the thing. I feel like if I go down this road, I'm playing in a bad way. Do you know what I mean? Like I'm going to make my mark by playing the best possible game that I can right now without thinking about 50. Like also that's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Do you know what I mean?

[00:54:53] Like my, I am just really, really focused on experiencing every moment of this opportunity, playing my heart out, taking risks, not being afraid. And like knowing that if I don't win, I gave everything I had. But also maybe like you want some fun Real Housewives references, like to come back. You want fun, like, I don't know, pop culture moments. I don't know. I'm planning on just be like really gay and having a great time.

[00:55:21] I mean, we are on the precipice of the end of Pride. So it ends up working out. Yes. I'm doing this for my people, for Pride. And there you have it, folks. All six members of the Loggi tribe, as interviewed by me, out in Fiji. One third of the cast done already. And we are going to take a brief pause to talk about them.

[00:55:46] Of course, after listening to these interviews, I'm sure you have some opinions as to how they're going to vibe as a tribe. So do myself and Rob Sessonino. So we've talked about this before. But just as a reminder, tomorrow, there will not be an interview podcast. Instead, Rob and I are going to stop down, talk about these six people in particular. Not only our thoughts on each one of them, but how they might work together or against each other within this particular configuration.

[00:56:15] And give some of our thoughts on this group before we then move into the next set of interviews. So, again, make sure you don't miss a second of all the preseason coverage we have going on. We know Survivor.com for the podcast versions. And Rob has a website.com slash YouTube for the video versions. Thank you all so much for the support so far. I had such a great time out there in Fiji getting to talk with these people, not only in the moment,

[00:56:43] but getting to re-engage with them as players and people now that we have been releasing all of these interviews. I'm really looking forward to what Rob has to say about them and what you all have to say about them as well. And seeing if there might be some possible winner candidates that reside within Loggi. Rob and I will be back tomorrow breaking down these six people and giving our thoughts on what's to come from them over the next three months. Until then, everybody, take care.

[00:57:13] Bye-bye.