Survivor 48 Draft

[00:00:00] Hey everybody, what's going on? Rob Sestradino back here to kick off the final countdown to the Survivor 48 premiere. It's the Podcaster Draft, and we are so back tonight as the podcasters will draft the 18 Survivor 48 contestants, and you will watch it all play out live here with our esteemed panel of Survivor podcasters here to talk.

[00:00:29] It is not everybody who's a Survivor podcaster, but it is these six who have drafted in some way shape or form since Survivor 41. And so it is a great pleasure to welcome in the team. Okay, of course first here with us again no particular order a man who's everybody has won a draft here. It's Taran Armstrong. How are you?

[00:00:56] You know, I'm doing great. I don't know what that intro was, but you know. He said nothing. A man who... Yep, a man who everyone else has also won the draft as well. Should we start again? You got it? You got this, Taran? All right, here we go. All right, three, two, one. What happened? Basically what happened was your first instinct when introducing me was how good I am at drafts and how often I win. And then you were like, oh, that's not fair to the others. I need to make sure I'm inclusive.

[00:01:26] Which, listen, I get it. It's fine. Everyone has won a draft now. I've just won more. So it's fine. And I'm doing great. Okay. All right. Have you one more? Off to an amazing start so far. He counts being brother even though I know all about you. Listen, I also survivor just because I was around longer than you. We're not even through the intros here yet. All right. So let's... Okay. All right. Also with us, Pudia, Liana, Chappelle, Shannon and Asia. I love us. Okay. All right. That's it.

[00:01:55] Well, y'all really following us in, huh? You guys critiqued the first version and now you got the second version. Okay. Let's highlight a couple of things. Okay. All right. Here with us. We're so excited. Asia Welch. Asia, how are you? Woo! Hey. How y'all doing? Hey, Asia. Hey, Asia, let me just say, we were on our best behavior while you were away on vacation.

[00:02:25] And we are so happy to have you back. I am confused. I'm like, what happened? How did you let me win? That's what we said. Yeah. I feel like I'm coming into something like we're in trouble. I'm excited to be back. You know, I had to go get... I was trying to go get like another perspective so I can come in the draft at a different angle, you know? So that's all that was. Well, should we talk about how Asia just ditched us all? For two seasons?

[00:02:54] I mean, is that okay? It was research, Shannon. She was conducting research, which we supported her. Okay. I'm not hurt by it. She had to go forge her own path. How can we fault her for that? Right. Yes. Where are we? All right. Well, we also have to congratulate the winner of last season's draft. Here she is, the queen of international survivor podcasting and the reigning draft champion. It's Shannon Goss. Shannon, how are you? I mean, I'm great. I'm here for my victory lap.

[00:03:23] I've been just doing that lap for the last few months. Not a girl's trip. It's a victory lap. Yeah, it's been... I don't know what that reference was, but the point is I've just been running the lap. Renoscriptatv.com. Okay. Well, I'm podcasting a lot. It's hard to keep up with everything. But what I do know is that... I mean, Shannon Hive rise, right? Like you said it couldn't be done, all of you in different ways to different degrees, which will be reflected in the draft order. It was done.

[00:03:50] And let's talk about the fact that the odds of us all winning and Asia leaving and Rob coming in to have us all win once in seven times was like under a half a percent chance. Incredible. It's crazy. Santistically. Get baby Andy to crunch the numbers. He did. He messaged me actually. Okay. That's what he said. Under half a percent. All right. So if you're just joining us here, Shannon, the victor of the season 47 draft, she will

[00:04:14] in a moment, give us the order that the six drafters will then proceed to have a draft, a three round snake draft where they are looking to pick the winner of Survivor 48. The only wrinkle, don't pick the grenade, the first boot of Survivor 48.

[00:04:34] If you do, your team is immediately disqualified unless the other two players on your team make it to the final three and you have the winner on your team. Impossible. That's what they said to Chappelle when he did it in Survivor 42. And I said, nay, thanks to Marianne. And so it can be done. Let's see if it happens again. Okay. All right. We got into chat with everybody a little bit, except for the stars of the Pouya and Liana lounge. Pouya and Liana, welcome.

[00:05:05] Thank you all. How about a beer? Hell yeah. Okay. You've got to be. All right. So Shannon, in just a moment, we'll ask you to tell us the order that you have selected for this year's draft. But, of course, a great tradition we have on the podcaster draft is that we hear from the person who helped the drafter win.

[00:05:33] And we do have some words for Shannon from the winner of Survivor 47 and the brand new co-host of the official Survivor podcast. Let's hear from Rachel. Mmm. Mmm. The sweet, sweet taste of victory. Shannon, you did it. I searched my house for a crown so we could be winning together.

[00:05:59] I don't have one, but I know you're wearing that tiara right now and you look beautiful. You look regal. All of these people in the room know that their fate is in your hands and should be bowing, should be kissing the ring. So make sure they're treating you right, Shannon, and log any just, you know, thing that you need to remember when you're deciding this draft pick order. Um, I'm just so happy that we got to win together, Shannon. It took you many years. It took me many years.

[00:06:30] And, uh, you know, we don't talk about how this isn't, you know, the rules were bent. This isn't a solo win. We don't talk about how, you know, Saul got an advantage or I found something in my fries. We don't talk about how if Rob hadn't put Chappelle on the draft order before you, maybe you would have picked Sam instead of him. But, you know, we don't talk about those things because this is what really happened. And the details don't really matter. So cheers. Um, I'm so happy for us.

[00:06:56] And I think, you know, unsolicited advice, which you don't need, but, um, cause I know you have spreadsheets on spreadsheets about like why, who, who deserves to be what, but obviously make yourself first, Shannon. That is just a no brainer. Um, and I think when you're trying to decide the fate of everybody else around you really start tallying those wrongs from all these years and just make sure you measure them against one another. And, um, don't forget anything.

[00:07:25] No slight goes unpunished. Okay. Um, good luck. I am so happy that you won Shannon. And I think statistically that winning again, back to back, I think it's in the cards. So, uh, good luck everyone, but mostly Shannon. Bye. Okay. Yay. All right. Well, forget back to back. Uh, somebody is going to be the only person to hold two championships over the rest of the panel.

[00:07:54] So this one is for keeps on survivor 48. So we will see how it all plays out. Just a couple of programming notes before we hear Shannon's draft order. We have of course, uh, so much survivor coverage for you about to come your way. We just announced it today that the survivor know-it-alls are returning to Wednesday nights.

[00:08:18] So Steven and I will be live after the two hour episode streaming our thoughts to you about the thought about the episode this week and every week back on Wednesdays. That'll give me the opportunity to speak with a guest in a long form interview back on Thursdays. So we're going back to how we did it for many, many years. So I'm very excited about the new format.

[00:08:44] We will also be bringing you a old school survivor interview every single week. In addition to then when Chappelle and I come on for club condo on Monday, plus the survivor exit interview and everything else that we're doing over at we know survivor.com. Okay. Also on the patron feed today, there was a special podcast that Brandon, Mike Bloom and Sam Moore recorded about the beach drop event in New York talking all about that. You want to hear that.

[00:09:12] That's in our patron podcast feed at Rob is a website.com slash patron where you'll also get access to the survivor Q and a every week. You can call in live and ask me all your survivor questions Fridays at 3 p.m. Eastern. All right, Shannon. All right. Come join me up here. Okay. Rob, it's always gonna make me happy that I'm the only person on the panel to have beaten you. Okay. Okay. Well, thank you, Rob, for drafting me. I appreciate it. Yeah, I wanted to. Okay.

[00:09:41] So I look blade with my head and my heart and I drafted Asia. Okay. Can you blame me? Sorry. I forgot that Asia was your draft pick. No shade at Asia. I'm just saying I beat Rob. It wasn't meant to be the drive by on Asia. Okay. Anyway, thank you, Rachel. Let's just thank Queen Rachel. How has no one sent her a tiara? I want to just point out the fact that- We have one. Well, I'm not sending her this one. Someone else send her a different tiara. There are more tiaras in the world.

[00:10:10] We typically don't send a crown to the survivor winners. We haven't. That would be new precedent. We haven't done that. Yeah. They should be doing that. A hundred percent. It's criminal that she doesn't have a crown. Someone send her a crown right now. Someone with a crown. Send her a crown. I'm not- There are more than just this one crown. This is my crown and others can buy her one at a store and send her a crown. Okay. Shannon, you can buy her one at the store and send her a crown too? Shipping is expensive from a store. Someone closer to Rachel should send.

[00:10:38] Anyway, I already sent her a mug on behalf of Rob. Shannon, what is the draft order for tonight? What's happening? What's happening? Okay, great. I've been thinking about the draft order roughly since about when Rachel won the block of vote. Right? And I have not, as Rachel says, I've thought about every single slide through years of history. Everywhere I was put in every draft order that all of you have had a chance to decide. And it gave me so much intel on where to put everyone.

[00:11:07] Let's go with number one, who was going to be first in the draft order. It's not myself. I'm going to put someone who I think has always been very kind to me. A few years ago, this person put me second in the draft order and I thought, what's your angle here? And now through years of kindness, Goose Goose duck, he put my spreadsheet on the screen that one time, he drove to see me in Anaheim and I thought, Taren might just be really nice to me. So I'm putting Taren first. Wow. Through the fact that I've now realized he's always been being nice to me. Taren's first.

[00:11:37] It worked. Oh, thank God. He did it. Playing the long game. He did it. Oh my God. No. He's the strategy guy. That's this. He did it. He texted me earlier and said, Chappelle, I got this. I said, I know you deserve. Well, I feel good about it. Second place. Now, one of you did put me first. You weren't playing in that draft, but you did put me first because you ditched us to go play Survivor.

[00:12:05] Now, Asia put me first, but I do remember the slight that she then made fun of my pick and I didn't like that. But then I thought she went on Survivor and that's cool. But then I thought she ditched us to go on Survivor. So I kind of equaled that out to being second place for Asia. Okay. Thank you. Nice. Asia will get the second pick. Yeah. Asia, you happy with that pick? Yeah, I appreciate it. Okay, great. Hope everyone remembers where they're going. Third place. I'm going to put myself. Why?

[00:12:33] Just out of like vibing the cast. There's a few people I'd be happy to get. I think this is like the best place for me. I don't have like a strong first pick. And I think there's a couple of people I want and one will fall to me. Fourth place. Liana put me fourth. I thought I'd return the saver. Liana has also offered at times to switch with me. It's not been allowed. But fourth, I think is also a really good spot for this draft. So I've put Liana in it fourth. Great. I like that. And for fifth place and sixth place.

[00:13:02] This was very tough, obviously, because it was to my great disappointment that I couldn't put both Pouya and Chappelle in last. Had I had the choice, I would have put Pouya, Chappelle and Rob, to be honest, all in last. But that wasn't available to me for many reasons. Now, in the history of slights, I could go on and on and on and on. But instead of doing that, I'm going to say there was one distinct factor that differentiated this for me. Why did I put Pouya fifth? One reason alone. He's not Chappelle.

[00:13:31] Hey! Oh! And that is the draft order. Hey! All right. Chappelle, how does it feel knowing you and I join her weekly to cover AU and we got the shaft? Do we join her weekly or do we just get this week? I don't know. Pouya, I'm coming down with some... I don't know. You love being there. I'm busy. You love being my recap bitches. Yeah. Recap comma bitches. So here's the thing.

[00:14:01] Nobody's shocked by this. This isn't sexy. You know, people been saying Chappelle is going to be last this whole time. Shannon, step it up next time. Give it up delicious. Is that good enough? Okay. Take it away, Rob. All right. Taryn has the first pick in the Survivor 48 draft and Taryn, take it away. Okay. Well, obviously I have done extensive research. You better read that article. Another reason I put you first. You better... He's reading right now.

[00:14:31] We can see his eyes moving along the page. I don't know what you're talking about. You're not expecting to be this soon. That is true. I don't usually have to pick first. Although I do appreciate it and I do like picking first. I do have a pick in mind. Ooh. Um, now I'm going to say this. Pet peeves this year, this season. Not it. Okay. Not good.

[00:15:01] Very bad pet peeves. I'm very disappointed in this cast. Uh, I'm in fact, I'm quite peeved by him, uh, to be honest. Um, there are a couple of people that have some passable peeves though. Uh, and there's one person in particular who I think, uh, has some good judgment. And that person is, uh, Shaheen. Okay. Ooh! I feel so bad.

[00:15:29] No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, I feel so bad. That's a dagger right at the fifth spot. That's so bad. Oh my God. I mean, that's a dagger. Do you think he's going to go fifth, Puyo? I, I honestly... I mean, Shannon basically screwed Puyo over. Puyo was ready to claim him. I didn't think anyone would take him from Puyo. I just don't think that's true. I know how much it meant to Puyo and I just thought that he, that we would let him get to fifth. Is this my fault or Taryn's fault? I feel awful. It's your fault.

[00:15:59] It is definitely your fault. Okay. Really on pet peeves alone you picked him? Like Puyo's like really wanted him. It wasn't pet peeves alone. It was on his judgment. Okay. I think he has shown good judgment. Let's talk about your judgment. Okay. Uh, what did you like about Shaheen? Uh, I, I think that he is, uh, somebody who has shamed. He's shown some, some strength in, uh, decision-making.

[00:16:27] Um, and, uh, his pet peeves are people who missed the forest for the trees. That part. Slash inability to see big picture. Okay. Slash lack of appreciation. He also doesn't like being interrupted, which is probably pretty difficult considering that he likes slashes.

[00:16:50] Um, however, I, the thing that sold me on Shaheen is that the reason he doesn't like being interrupted is because he loves the sound of his voice. Okay. The fact that this is why you're choosing him over Puyo's extreme reasons and want. It's so upsetting for Puyo. We also, we also share a fandom. Uh, he's a fan of a podcast that I like. Puyo, I'm so sorry.

[00:17:20] I'm so sorry. Please come back to the Australian survivor coverage, please. No, no, we just got sick. Okay. What else about Shaheen from, uh, the people who didn't get the chance to draft him? Was he a number one pick for anybody besides Puyo? I was going to let him get to Puyo. Well, I wanted to hear from Liana. Did you think putting me fifth was going to bring him to me? Puyo. I thought other people would be kind.

[00:17:49] That's what she thought, Puyo. She really thought that. You thought four people were going to give me charity? One was me and I was going to give them one. You didn't even give them charity. You had the opportunity to give them charity. No, not just the survivor contestant. Puyo, make sure you aim your ire right at Shannon who made this draft order. I would also like to say, like, I didn't think Puyo would have that reaction. Yeah, that's why it's funny. The first Persian man. Yeah. The bearded Persian guy. Yeah, I wonder who Puyo is going to be. He's ready to claim him.

[00:18:18] Rob, stop saying that, Rob. Stop this, please. What I was going to say is, I know he was such a hot topic on the B&B as he was the bearded guy last season. What did you think about, Cheyenne? It felt like the prophecy had come true. Like, finally, this was time to meet Bearded Man. And, you know, Puyo obviously had laid claim to him as far as I was concerned. But I listened to his bio and I couldn't help but be drawn to him.

[00:18:46] I just think he's got such an energy that I really appreciate. Obviously, the big concern, hearing himself talk, maybe not shutting up. That could obviously get him into trouble. But overall, he stood out to me in this cast. He was at the top of my draft board. If for some reason Puyo had an aneurysm and couldn't draft him. Or this. Yes. I think it helps that, I love his shirt, for one. That's, I mean, just going to say that.

[00:19:11] But I think it helps that, like, it was a surprise to me that he was 38. By just the energy he gives off, which I think is going to work in his favor. Because it's like, oh, he's giving off young energy. He seems like somebody who can talk to anybody. He does seem very charismatic. Like, I mean, he does describe himself as charismatic. But I agree. I think he is charismatic.

[00:19:36] And so he does seem like someone that you either are going to, like, love right off the bat. Or I could see him easily being someone that people are like, whoa, this guy has a big personality. Personality, that's something I don't want around. So, yeah. I think with the tribe he's with, because that's what I'm going off of this time is the tribe makeups. It does seem like that's a fine group for him. My issue is like the two seasons of attention.

[00:20:06] Like, I even letting him get to Puyo was not going to pick him for that reason early. Just because, like, I just feel it's unlikely someone's going to get all the way to the end and win with that level of attention. But in my defense, Puyo, I wasn't going to take him. I know that Liana wouldn't take him from you because you guys put your relationship before the draft, which I don't agree with or understand. But I know she would have. Asia, so sweet and kind. I knew she wouldn't take him from you. And I just thought, what are the odds Taryn likes his peeves the best? And I bet it all on that. So anyway, I bet wrong. That was my thinking.

[00:20:36] Taryn will look at the peeves and then pick the one we're all looking at. He's that clinical with the peeves. Yeah, I know. I'm sad. She knows what she did. Taryn, have fun. Have fun. I'm rooting for Taryn to win the draft now. How is that going for me? So, I have some concerns about Shaheen, though. Obviously, like Shannon said, I mean, he's the attention guy. Like, everybody in last season, people were at Ponderosa or like pregame, I guess, saying, like, who's the guy with the beard? The guy with the beard? There's a guy with the beard.

[00:21:03] You know, and now in this preseason press, too, they're still saying the guy with the beard. The guy with the beard. I'm like, okay, what's he doing? And I think he was putting on a lot last season. In his interview, we talked about how he was there really trying to make connection with people. Like, you know, smiling and this, that, and other. And it really did make an impact. And now he thinks he has to pull it back in. But I just feel like he's not the guy who can hide, right? I think like, once he becomes the biggest threat on the board, they're after him.

[00:21:31] And unless he has a Rachel-esque run in him, I don't know if he can make it to the end and win. Was he the alternate in 46 or 47? 46. Okay, 46. So, AJ, you went out there with him for the inside. Yes, right. I think that's the thing is we're hoping like, because Kenzie won in 46 and then Rachel was there on 46. And now if he wins, it would be crazy how many winners were there on that beach. So, that might be some good luck charm for him as well. But yeah, I think the attention is a bit concerning. Anything else about Shaheen?

[00:22:00] The number one pick on the board. I think that he's a super engaging speaker. I think that he is likely to be a big character. I don't see Shaheen winning just for a lot of the reasons that were said in terms of just the threat level that I think he's going to have just from being such a big personality and such an engaging person that people are never going to forget him. And I do think you need a little bit of like being able to be a little bit forgettable to be able to win in the new era.

[00:22:28] And if there's anything about Shaheen, he is not forgettable. Right. He's a big fan. I've been told that he is pro pencil eating. So, that was enough for me. What does that mean? Like he eats pencils? No, not him. It's just, you know, you should follow through on things that you said you're going to do. That's what he feels. It's what I feel. Okay. Is that what pencil eating means? Yeah. Did I miss something? Yeah, we all get it, Chappelle.

[00:22:58] Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I don't know why. All right. Shout out to Shaheen's mom who listens to the podcast. Hey, Mama Shaheen. Okay. All right. Wow. And so she gets to see him go first. That's nice. Okay. Asia is back and ready to make her first draft pick since what survivor 45? Yes. So, victory lap for when I won with D. Yes. That was a long time. That was a decade ago.

[00:23:27] You've done victory marathon since then for you, Asia. We've played the lap that I just did. Remember when D won? Right. It was a daily actually. Asia, your mom got to watch you go first in the draft as well, right? She did. Yeah. Yeah, she did. So, shout out to the moms out there. So, I am going to kind of draft differently this time. I'm going purely on vibes. In the past, I've overthought it.

[00:23:57] And you can overthink it. And then it doesn't matter. You can hurt yourself over thinking it. Yeah, exactly. Someone can have an amazing bio. And then, you know. So, I do need my good luck charm though. So, I'm going to go ahead and put this on, right? Yay! Just for, you know, for safe keeping. One of us. We'll put this one in. Okay.

[00:24:22] So, for my first pick, I'm going to go with someone. I'm going to go with a woman. Okay. Okay. I'm going to go with someone who gave me really good vibes. They also are looking for vibes in their alliance partner. I'm going to go with Bianca. Okay. All right. So, Bianca Roses, which very good last name, right? She's 33. She's a PR consultant.

[00:24:49] She describes herself as bold, friendly, enthusiastic. I think she just gives me really good vibes. I think she is on a solid tribe. It seems like her tribe is like a tribe that she could like get along with everybody on it. I don't really see her being the outcast on that tribe. So, I, you know, I think she could be fine in the early game. And then, yeah, let me see who else is on her tribe.

[00:25:20] Where is she at? Where is she at? Okay. Yeah. I think she has some strong guys on her tribe. She's on a tribe with, what, Star, Eva, Joe, Thomas, and Shaheen. Shaheen. Yeah, exactly. So, they seem like a strong bunch. I see her being somebody that they all want to talk to. And then getting to, like, when she gets to the merge, I could see her easily developing relationships just because she seems like somebody that's very easy to talk to.

[00:25:49] And not as, like, immediately threatening. Like, some people might see other people like, oh, that person's too strong. Or, oh, that person's like a Shaheen. Like, super big personality. I think she's, like, has the personality, like, just enough. She did also say that Dee was the winner pick, or the winner that she associated with the most, Asia. Yeah. So, that does bode well for you. It does. Ties all together. I really liked Bianca's interview with Mike.

[00:26:18] It was so cool. You could tell she's a super fan. So, that's a plus. And she's all into her PR, I believe. And she was talking about how that could translate to the island. But I'm different from Asia. I looked at the tribe that she's on and thought, oh, my God, she might be in trouble. Because I feel like she, of them, the super fans, you know, her and Shaheen are gonna really, they're probably gonna click. But also, that would be a very threatening pair if it was me looking at them and thinking, okay, who knows this game inside and out?

[00:26:47] Who we could probably snip and say, like, oh, let's keep the tribe strong and just kind of get away with it. I think Bianca is probably somebody you could kind of clip off and just, oh, yeah, we just had to get rid of her because we couldn't keep the tribe strong. When in reality, you don't want her to go too far because she could take it off. That's if she makes it known. You know, like, they could let, Shaheen seems like somebody who wouldn't keep it a secret that he is such a big fan. And if Bianca decides, like, okay, I'm just gonna keep that on the hush, you know, maybe Shaheen could be the one telling Bianca about our HAP.

[00:27:17] It's happened before. I have a bone to pick with Bianca. Okay. Ooh, pick the bone. Because Bianca's bio is full of words, answers. She wrote a dissertation on every single question. That would be annoying if you were reading it right now. Except for the pet peeves. It's paragraphs on paragraphs. And then you get to the pet peeves.

[00:27:46] And first of all, you're like, where are they? Because you can't find them. Because then you find them and it's four words. I'm telling you, if you look at this thing, it's comical in its presentation. Indecisiveness and mean people. And then she goes off on a big explanation about another question. What are we doing here? Why are we even doing this? So, Charon brought up her bio for the first time ever, 30 seconds ago, and then was like searching for the pet peeves. And now was like, I'm upset about that.

[00:28:17] I looked at it yesterday. Okay. Listen, it's four words. He got through it very quickly. He revisited today. And I think it's fair. I think that, look, we're looking for whatever information we can mine from these people that's gonna help us make our picks. And she didn't give a lot in that category. So I'll give Tara that. Were the four words good enough? It was indecisiveness and mean people. And what do you think of that? Yeah. Are those not your pet peeves? No, you're right. It's not that good. They're just incredibly generic.

[00:28:47] Who likes mean people? Yeah. It speaks for itself. You're right about pet peeves. If that's the one metric that she can win on. Any other strong opinions about Bianca here at number two? She is so fun. I hope she doesn't go early. Cause I think she will give us great TV. She's a big personality. Yeah. A fun personality. She's gonna be a standout. If given the opportunity, I think she could be a standout. Okay. All right. So Asia is locked in with Bianca at number two.

[00:29:16] And now we go to our reigning champion Shannon with the number three pick overall. Shannon, let me just ask you before you make your pick. Has your number one person fallen to you? Um, yes. Yes. Everyone that I was high on has fallen to me. So far the draft has gone perfectly according to your plan. As always Rob, as always I plan to win last as well. So perfectly like as in Pouya doesn't get. Oh, I feel bad for Pouya, but like.

[00:29:46] I would rather good things happen for me. That's real. Don't overthink it Shannon. Thank you so much. Aja. I'm remembering as well that Aja said she didn't want me to pick her. Maybe I should have put Aja lower down in the draft, but. But look by not picking her, you won the draft. So she helped you. That is true. But I wanted to pick her. The funny thing is that Aja slid into my DMs a couple of days ago to be like, we were all so happy when you won the draft. I was like, all right, it'll be noted in your draft order place.

[00:30:13] Honestly, I just forgot to tell you and I wanted to tell you before. Aja what is wrong with you? Yeah. She's strategizing. She's still on the island. I'm telling you. Yeah, seriously. Like start planning ahead of time. Don't don't go like the week before. Come on. That's amateur. Do it years early. Do it in 2022. Okay. So my draft strategy is kind of out the window, right?

[00:30:37] Years of picking the buff guy who I think can beast out in a shorter new era or the to pick a woman who beasts out and wins it for me in the shorter new era has really thrown everything for me. I don't know what to do anymore. So what am I doing? Like Aja said, vibes. Who did I just like in their interview the most? And when I looked at that, I thought you simply must pick Thomas. Thomas. Thomas. I loved. I thought Thomas was so fun. He compared himself to Mike White and like we're all in our white Lotus phase at the moment.

[00:31:07] Not everybody since I made a white Lotus reference before and nobody on the panel picked up on it. From the second episode? I haven't started the season. I haven't watched the second episode because I'm podcasting all the time. Okay. Then I just missed it. I saw the first. What was the reference Rob? Yeah. Just keep going. You're cooking. No, no, no. It's not a girl's trip. It's a victory lap. Oh, that's what it was. Oh, that's what it was. Okay. I wasn't thinking. I have seen the episode. Yeah.

[00:31:34] My brain is a little bit like because of Australian Survivor. I'm trying to fit all the things into it. Okay. But I did make time. That was a great reference, Rob. We're really proud of you. Listen, Taryn. I'll end the draft right now. Oh my God. Let me put the whole group on notice. Okay. What? Strike one. Strike one, everybody. I didn't know we had to memorize the White Lotus to be here. Good. Oh my God. I wasn't expecting that. I'm just so thrown.

[00:32:04] I don't even remember anything about Thomas. Everybody okay? Is that the most heated Rob's ever been on a podcast? No. What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? I think Thomas is a great pick. Look at Asia. All in my DMs complimenting me in case I win again. I see you. Okay. I believe nothing. Shannon, tell us about Thomas. Rob, I'm sorry for whatever we did to you. Right. I really liked your reference. White Lotus.

[00:32:33] He reminds me of Mike White. He was so funny. He had me laughing the whole time. I just really liked him. So I picked him first as Thomas. Any thoughts on Thomas? Nope. Nothing to say. He seems like he doesn't take himself too seriously, which I love. He seems like a very likable guy. Like, I don't know. I did. Yeah. I get all good vibes from him. He's on that tribe as well. So let's try better to do well. We have three people from the tribe as the first three picks. Let's keep it going.

[00:32:59] I think he's in a really good position because he is one of three people who doesn't like being late or people who are late. And he can really bond with people about that. You know, I feel like this is going to be a hot topic on the island. Oh shit. Thomas would hate me. Okay. I didn't know that was his peeve, but I still really like him. He might not like me, but I really like him. I think that's what's important. So I'm sorry, Thomas. I'm not good. I'm not punctual. Okay. So he has. Would you have taken him soon? Would anyone else have taken him soon? I would have. He was. Yeah, I would have as well.

[00:33:27] Well, I would have had to wait until later to pick him. Right. Based on the draft order. Yeah. No, great pick. No, because being late is his peppy. But whatever. Oh, guys, I don't have space in my brain today. I don't know how to explain to you. I'm telling you, Rob, it's not about you. Turn this podcast around. Sorry. Sorry. It's yeah. Anyway, so Thomas Thomas just see me. He was so fun. Like I do.

[00:33:55] All I remember again on vibes was I was getting my nails done listening to his interview and I was just laughing out loud. And that's great. That's going to be good for tribe morale. He just seems really fun. He's a really successful guy and is coming like out here for the adventure with like by coming in from like, you know, a really kind of stable good life. What's his age and everything? Let's look at someone I drafted 34 for music executive. I could send him some of my old tapes. Maybe we get something going. I will be late to that meeting, though. I'm outgoing, emotional, loyal.

[00:34:24] He's got it all go, Thomas. Yeah, forever. He's like this season's John Levitt. Oh, shoot. Is that a good thing? Well, hopefully. Yeah, hopefully. That hurts. Oh, well, I was just being likable. Okay, well. And yeah, successful. Is anybody down on the Thomas pick? Honestly, no. He's all around great. Energy was great.

[00:34:52] I felt like you could get lost in a conversation with him, which is a great thing. And I feel like has a good head for the game. I think Thomas is a deep run person. He also has a good mustache. That was a big factor for me. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, great. Okay. All right. Great job. Shannon is on the board with Thomas. Okay. And we have a run on three people from the same purple tribe so far. Liana, are you ready to make it four?

[00:35:22] Hell yeah, baby. Oh my God. Let's do this. I'm drafting Joe. No. I did. Yup. Let's just drop my tribe. Something about him. I just, maybe it's because he called Mike Oprah. Maybe it's because he called Gabler. Diggler. There are so many reasons why. I don't know. Joe's interview just really stood out to me. I think similar to other members of the draft, I'm going on vibes and I just, there was something about his energy that I just really, really liked.

[00:35:51] I've been loving what I'm seeing in the promo material from him. So I feel that whether or not Joe does or does not win the season, he will be a big character. And I am excited to see all of that character brought to the screen. Okay. Let's look at Joe. I love Joe. I was driving in my car and I was listening to his interview and I was grinning from ear to ear because Joe, oh my God. His prep that he said he did for Survivor was incredible.

[00:36:18] He said, yeah, I just watched all the tribal councils back to back with no content. Yeah. I just wanted to pick up on tails. And I was like, you go Joe. And the challenges, I think he said. All the challenges. The tribals. But my thing is, is that the one thing he really, anybody who loves Mike Bloom is a person that I just have to root for. Right. And he was obsessed with Mike. He was just like, Mike, you're so great. I'm like, yes, speak, speak. Yes. It just came off very like empathetic. And like, he really wants to make social connections with people.

[00:36:47] Also doesn't hurt that he looks like he's a strong guy. So I think he's going to be around. I think he's going to be a very fun pick. He reminds me of like Stan Mike Turner from back in the day. Y'all remember him? Yeah. Yeah. Except, um, I think Mike was like a little, probably a little bit more edgy than we thought he was going to be in the game. I'm hoping Joe can find some of that. Cause, uh, he could have a good run in them. The issue for me is like when I'm rewatching the episodes to like analyze them for the podcast, you know what I watch? Rewatch, not the challenges and largely like not tribal council.

[00:37:15] Like I go to like the camp scenes, like that. I think Rob said this in the kickoff, like the important stuff. But you know what? I have to say that when I heard him tell that, and I did say that at first that I feel like it made a little bit more sense when he said it, that he felt like that you could like, if you were like looking at how people are acting at different, at different things. Um, you know, I got the tribal council part of it a little bit more than the challenge. Tribal makes a lot more sense that the challenge is like, I barely want to watch them the first time. Yeah. Well, were you watching that?

[00:37:41] Like that's not where I would go, but I did otherwise like Joe, but I had questions about that. And mostly that, you know, I also from going to tribal council winning challenges. Well, hopefully, cause all of our draft picks are on his tribe. So I do. Yeah. I also have questions for Joe. No, because he has some strange pet peeves. Okay. First of all, different ways of describing rude people, selfish people, mean people. Right.

[00:38:11] But he also talks about, uh, basically acting like a butthole, which is just another way of describing, I think the same thing. But he also talks about people who don't make eye contact, apparently peeve him, which I think is, uh, not a very nice thing to be peeped about. Um, but then the most, the most concerning for me, bad hugs. I'm sorry, Taryn. I agree with this man. What? What's worse than a bad hug? You know, I just feel like it's a hug. It's a post.

[00:38:39] Sometimes it's kind of hard to hug you. You're so tall. Okay. Thanks. Listen to her. Look at how she's playing the game. Do you see what I see? Oh my God. I would have drafted her if I had to change. Who wants to hug this man? Me. He's going to be judging me on my hug capabilities. Right? Are you a bad hug? I mean, if you're insecure about your hugs, just say so. I'll open up the space to be like, ooh, sorry. You didn't give me a good one there. Ooh.

[00:39:08] Taryn, I owe you a hug. He's providing constructive feedback right when it happens. Yeah. Right in the moment. Yeah. Last is long. Seven out of 10. Yep. It's interesting that Taryn is an insecure hugger. Are you guys picking up on that as well? Well, I guess we all need to hug Taryn. I'm actually a pretty great hugger. I will say so myself. Well, hug Joe and let him tell you. Right. We have a professional hugger on the podcast. I am unafraid to face the judgment of Joe, but he shouldn't be judging.

[00:39:37] Apparently his wife was in the WNBA. What? What? I didn't know that. Has anyone noticed how Taryn will take like a victory sip when he thinks he makes a point? He ate it. He told him out. I put him first. I'm just saying. Sips tea. You know, he ate it. Go on. All right. I'm done now. Okay. I think for me, it was a pretty good pick. Would it have been in my top picks? Probably not. But was it in like that second tier that like had he fallen to me, I would have taken around the second round? Yes.

[00:40:08] I think so. Joe seems like such a sweet guy to be out there on the island. I think that the question is like, does he have like a cutthroatness? It seems like he has a big heart. He's going to be great in the challenges. I just wonder if he's going to have the strategic game as well. But he seems like a solid pick here at number four. I'm very concerned about him strategically. Very concerned.

[00:40:33] We don't talk enough on this draft about what people turn into when they're hungry. Because I think that matters. Yes. Asia, as someone who just came off the island, what were you like when you were hungry? Did you feel hangriness in your time? I just had zero patience. Which is, yeah, that my stomach was eating itself. And so when that's happening, you don't have capacity for extra, extraness. Mm-hmm.

[00:41:03] So I think it's interesting what Joe is a buff guy. But to be fair, you were with some extra people. Yes. True. Yeah. All right. Pouya did not get to get his number one pick in Shaheen. He will get a consolation prize with the number five pick. Pick someone from this tribe though. That's what we're doing. It's kind of sick. The days where I listen to you are long over.

[00:41:32] I'll have you know, please. Star and Eva are left from this tribe. Star and Eva from this tribe and then we go to the next tribe. That's what we're doing right now. I just want the person I pick, if they're listening or they find out, to know you're not a consolation pick. You're just not, you're not Shaheen, but he's Persian. So allow it. Okay. I'm going to go with Kyle. I'm picking Kyle here. Damn it. I was going to pick Kyle. Oh, Kyle was my second other pick. That makes me upset. Well, I mean, I felt like I came down here.

[00:42:00] I was like, hopefully he just stays on this purple tribe and I can pick Kyle. I thought of it for the bit, but then I was like, I can't, I don't want to do that. That would be crazy. I would have broken rank so fast. If I had lost another one, I may have crashed out real. Like it would have been bad for me. So anyway, here's the thing with Kyle. I loved everything I heard from him. I feel like he's, he understands people. I feel like I like the, one of my favorite things is when people, when he referenced Keith nail as his favorite moment.

[00:42:29] And then this like specific niche, a Dr. Mike line from, from 35. I was like, this is someone who appreciates the little details and the little things on the show. But I also get the vibe that he understands what game is ahead of him. Even, you know, saying that he read an interview with Malcolm a couple of years ago where he talked about them. Like he's like, he's someone who has a good head for the game. And I feel like he's going to be able to present that in a non-threatening manner. I also feel like, and this part, feel free to correct me.

[00:42:59] Cause I did not end up listening to all of the, the Rob, the, the roundups you did with, with Mike after the fact. So I don't know exactly when they described who they liked, who they were. I got the vibe that quite a few people liked Kyle. And even if they're not on his tribe, I'm okay with that because I feel like that kind of likeness can go a long way. Yeah. I feel like he wasn't mentioned a ton, but I don't think anybody was disliking him. Yes. I will take that as well.

[00:43:26] I'm upset about this. I was very close between Thomas and Kyle. They were very much my top two, but I knew Kyle wouldn't fall back to me. Cause I think he is like, he was a really clear pick. Um, he just seems like a, he's a very like stable pick, like 30 years old. He's a lawyer. He seems smart, but he seems also really versatile, like strong enough, but not necessarily someone that you're going to hugely target for that reason. Like he's right in that sweet spot. So you're so welcome Pooja. This is a great pick. Jay has pointed out in the chat that you said as well. And I'll recap yesterday.

[00:43:55] Five is your favorite number. I gave you what you wanted. You got a great pick. Everyone is happy. You can, you can listen, you can move the story however you want, but I've declared. You'll see in the future drafts. Let's just put it that way. Oh, I don't like that. Kyle was also a top pick for me. He gave one of my favorite answers to the Mike Bloom question of how have you been preparing for this game? Because a lot of people talk about, Oh, I've been swimming. I've been making fire, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

[00:44:22] He talks about actually social maneuvers and social relationships. Like one of his answers is if I at work, I'm pretending I'm playing survivor. If I were out there on the island, how would I handle this social situation? And I love that. I think that's so fantastic. I think also the delineation that he mentions about Wendell versus Dom. I think that that was very astute. I just really loved everything that I saw from Kyle. And if I hadn't picked Joe, I would have picked Kyle. Yeah. Great pick. He sounds like Asia always playing the game.

[00:44:52] This is where I am with the pet peeves on this draft is that he has perhaps one of the better ones with just a single word. That's just all like styrofoam. Hmm. Same. What's the issue with styrofoam? Well, that's it would have been lovely if he had described more, you know, environmental implications. Oh, right. Oh, right. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. I care about that. That's also the reason I don't like styrofoam. Yeah, for sure. Yes. Okay. I thought about that, too. I think about the environment all the time.

[00:45:21] Yeah. Sorry. Kyle was high on my list, too. He he just has a contagious smile. He just seems like such a nice guy. What does he say in the he's like he's the best average guy or something like that? Yeah. He's average in so many different ways. He's like a medium threat, which is where you need to be. He also loves dogs as well. So I have to love that. And I just say you've all been very kind about this pick and is making me feel a little less sad. Yeah.

[00:45:51] So thank you for the draft. I think like now that I'm hearing it. I'm like, I really wanted Kyle. The villain arc that would rise if I win by not getting Shaheen Shannon would be wild. Yeah. I think Kyle is a very nice, solid pick. I think that he is, you know, as we mentioned, like, you know, really like average to above average in almost every category that you could want. I mean, the, maybe, except for a smile, it's a good smile. Oh, above that way.

[00:46:23] But maybe the issue is that he doesn't have a flaw, which is something that could help give him some camouflage. You know, whenever anyone says that in the bachelor, like this guy just doesn't have a floor, they're gonna, they're gonna get engaged to them. They'll break up three months later, but they're going to be the thing. I noticed that when the issue is they don't have a floor, that's actually pretty good, apparently. So that's very good for Kyle. Okay. And one last thing, I swear that maybe this is like the third to last time I'll bring up me playing, but I did play with someone who also lied about being an attorney.

[00:46:53] And I think there is something to that. People always say that it doesn't matter, but we've seen these people go far. Like, look how well Genevieve did. I saw it early, but I think that could help Kyle by lying about it. But Asia, don't shy away from talking about when you played Survivor. Okay. Bring that into the podcast. For sure. Because we need something to make fun of you for. So like...

[00:47:22] Let me go ahead and show it more. There we go. All right. So there's Kyle. Pick number five. Okay. Chappelle has not picked yet. And Chappelle will pick twice. Yeah. Yeah. This is tough, obviously, because a lot of really good picks are off the board. And so I am not going to go to the Purple Tribe.

[00:47:51] Um, uh, just because I think y'all have gone and got the shining stars that I've... Well, I won't say that. I won't say that. There is definitely... No pun intended. Yeah. Look, we gonna get to my queen later on. But, um, right now, I think I'm gonna go with Say. Um, Say Hughley, I think is gonna be my first pick. Because I think that, um, Say's interview with Mike, obviously, because those are my faves that I listen to, um, was really good. She sounds like somebody who I would enjoy rooting for.

[00:48:21] Um, she's in marketing. And so I know she's gonna have, like, she's gonna have people skills. I think she calls herself, like, she's like super social or whatever. But also, she got a little bit of, like, an edge to her. And I like that. I wanna see somebody who's not afraid to mix it up, to make big moves, to play the game. Uh, and, um, yeah. I think she sounded like somebody who, if given the screen time, she's gonna be a very fun watch. And I wanna have fun rooting for her. She really loved Drea, huh? She did.

[00:48:49] I feel like, uh, she was... The people's champion, Drea. Yeah, look. Yeah, so much of that interview was about Drea. It's kind of all I can think about right now. Yeah, I mean, she said Marianne a few times as well. She did say Marianne. And you know I do love Marianne more than you, obviously, Shannon, because, you know, I drafted her. Uh, but yeah, I'm very excited to see what she's able to do. Um, I think that she's not going to be one of these people who is not, who is, like, shy of conflict. Like, I think that if there are some moves to be made, she will be steering some of them.

[00:49:18] And it might be at the detriment of other people's faves. And that's okay. Because I think she's gonna go far. I like... What do you call locks? What's the other word for locks? Locks. Uh, they call them dreads, but we don't really say that no more. Oh. No. I was going for salmon. Sorry. Salmon. Oh, what? Like, L-O-X. Oh! Asia? What? I was with you. You was with me, Asia? Okay. We'll have to have a brief interview. I was like, I also was gonna comment on hair.

[00:49:48] Yeah. What is the basis of this question? Yeah, why'd you ask me about that? I really, I needed to see how she pronounces the word salmon. That is one of her pet peeves. Salmon. Oh, she doesn't, she doesn't like the L-S-almon. Salmon. I've never heard anyone say that in my life. It's salmon. Oh, no, it's a very southern country ass thing that we do here in Texas sometimes. Oh. Salmon. Yeah, like, it's salmon. But, uh, no, I, I, I too share that pet peeve, please. Like, I will screw up some other words, but that's one that I'll hold on to.

[00:50:17] Uh, so we have that in common. I'm a little concerned for Vula in general, which is her starting tribe. Uh, and I, I do think that there could be some conflict early on this tribe. I think there are a lot of people who are very opinionated, say is one of them. And I think that is going to make for absolutely fantastic TV. I hope that she's able to get in with an alliance because I think if she can do that, she can make a deep run.

[00:50:43] But I am a little bit concerned for her just in the early few days of the game as things are being settled. But if she can find a pocket and an alliance to work with, I think that she can do really well. Yeah. I'm very curious to see how she maintains these cornrows because if you, if you know anything about black hair, cornrows are like the vacation hair, but you know that they'll last a couple of weeks.

[00:51:07] And so I'm really curious, like being in the water, just like, like usually if you see black women on here, like if it's not locks, like myself, you have like just the loose, like box braids, just the individual braids. Um, so I'm very curious that, but that's just my only personal curiosity. But I do agree with you, Liana and like her being very vocal. I mean, she's already been very vocal on social media. Yeah.

[00:51:36] So I think she's going to be somebody to watch on and off the street. She does not shy from confrontation. That blew me off. I think the Twitter thing is look, Tony, Tony did that in one. Somebody catch me up. What does she do? She just be tweeting, you know, eating a lot. Engaging the fans. Yes. Well, let me go look at the tweets first before I lock this one in. No, you locked it. I said I was joking. I said I was joking. No, you're joking. No, I think it'll be interesting to see.

[00:52:05] I think she'll be fun to watch on the screen and off the screen. She's already proving so like preseason. Um, but I do. I like the pic. She was definitely in my like top grouping. Yeah. We used to try and predict much, but I feel like now everyone has much. So that's kind of out the window, but you can try and predict Twitter again. Tony one while being all like, you know, tweeting at Steven fish back. So it's possible, but it's kind of a red flag for me. But she's got it. I did not know. No, salmon.

[00:52:35] Um, I did not know that she, uh, was on the Twitter talking trash, which makes her even more intriguing to me, but I am concerned now. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Anything else to say? Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Okay. All right. Love. I can't wait to watch her. Chappelle. You get a second pick here. First pick of the seventh or the second round is a several overall. Yeah. Um, this is so tough.

[00:53:05] I just really don't like going this far behind everybody. I mean, dance Shannon. Thanks so much. Um, Consequences and actions. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So anyway, um, I'm torn between two people. Oh, actually three. Uh, it's tough. It's tough. It's tough as well. Cause then you're not going to get another one. I'm not going to get another one. Yeah. I'm just going to be handed one. Um, I know that feeling.

[00:53:34] This person is a, gives me a little bit like hidden chaotic energy. I know there's an insane person in there. And although they tried to hold it together, I could feel the crazy slipping out of this person. And I have to support, I have to support Kevin and all his endeavors. Um, because although the, the, the interview was like, yeah, I'm, I can be chaotic. I feel like, nah, that's how I talk when I say I can be chaotic and I can be a mess.

[00:54:02] And so, uh, at this point since we're going off vibes, uh, I have to vibe out with Kevin. I think I'm going to hang out on the green tribe a little bit longer. Okay. You are, I guess, team chaos, but I do like Kevin a lot. Like had he fallen to me, I feel like I could have picked him. It was like, there was a lot of energy, but I just, I, I felt like I really, I did really on vibes alone. I really liked, you know, like his story, his fandom. He just seems like a good time. So on vibes, I think he's a really good pick. Thank you.

[00:54:31] I think Kevin is a lot of fun. He really, uh, radiates positivity and his smile is just electric. Uh, it seems like a really fun person to be around. Uh, he seems to really know the show particularly well, uh, that I think he's sort of, uh, maybe low key, you know, uh, one of the more physically fit players on the season. So I think Kevin brings a lot to the table. And I think that's hopefully going to help keep him around on green, which I am concerned

[00:55:00] about as I've raised before. Uh, but I think that Kevin also just, he, you just kind of want to be around him. I don't know. That was the energy that I got when I listened to his interview. And I think that that can speak for so much on survivor. I think that he also talks about, you know, wanting to create this family tree structure, which I'm here for as well. So I'm, I'm excited to watch Kevin play. I think it's a good pick. I feel like my concern was that he came in with like too many, like hardcore plans. Like I'm like, let's be a little bit fluid.

[00:55:29] Like the things like the family tree that were like too intense. I will say fluid plans, Shannon. Oh, the water. I'm still remembering what I binge. Okay, fine. That's such good references, Rob. Yeah. Thank you so much. Brilliant. Um, for, for Kevin, I just felt like the plans were a little bit too rigid other than, well, even the water drinking, like things like that. It's like, he's coming in with like a lot of ideas. Maybe we need to call it back and maybe a worse watching schedule or, you know, then,

[00:55:57] then we've seen from Joe who was watching the challenges and tribal, but at least with sound, Kevin started watching the show silently. So that's probably a tough way to get into it. And he still did though. He loved the show. So that's great. I mean, he did talk about also being a bit paranoid, which could be, uh, not so great for him out there, but if he can, yeah, get it under control, be all the fluids, then maybe that can work out for him. Yeah. He, he presented himself. So like, so like, like he very gave like a very good description of himself.

[00:56:26] And the whole time I kept thinking, Oh, you're like, you're my type of crazy. Okay. This is, let's ride it out. Let's do it. I can't wait to see him get more. What does Jess say birthed into survivor with the mud? Me too. Like he seems like every hair in place, like I, that'll be great to see him trying to get back to this look after going through that. How was your birthing experience? How was it bursting through the placenta of survivor? It was okay.

[00:56:54] You know, we did the whole buffs over the face thing. So I didn't get much. I didn't get any in my eyes or anything. It was deeply in my locks, not like my locks. Yes. Uh, so did a lot of washing of my locks in the ocean, but yeah, I mean, the mud comes off. Okay. Okay. Yeah. All right. Anything else about Kevin? Good pick. You're welcome. Okay. All right.

[00:57:21] So two in a row for Chappelle, uh, who will then ultimately not get the pick again until he receives the 18th and final player in the draft. Okay. Let's go to pick number eight. And for that, we're going to go back to Pooja for number eight. It's tough. I've been sitting here trying to figure out where my next move is. Cause it did dawn on me as well, that I'm basically going to be making two picks at the end.

[00:57:50] One for me, one for Chappelle, and I don't know what we're going to be left with. So it's going to be a tough one. I said, I appreciate you, man. I could decide the grenade at the end of this thing. Don't go anywhere. Anybody. Wow. You calling your shot? What is this? What did we do to him? Is everybody okay? I think you're doing great. I kind of want to, I kind of want to, I kind of also want to in on the purple tribe game that everyone else has been involved with. So I'm going to go in that direction.

[00:58:19] I am going to go ahead and pick Eva. Okay. Ooh. Get Eva on the team. I really liked what I heard from Eva. I feel like she definitely to me comes off as a bit of a triple threat. Got the physical there. Got a good mind there. Got a good social there. Um, and I just, I kind of gravitated towards the things where Eva was saying. There was quite a few relatable things in there for me. And I think she's going to get on well with quite a few people.

[00:58:46] Um, maybe age is the only factor I might be concerned with here coming in as one of the younger players of the season. But I don't know. I don't know if that's going to be a factor or not really. So we'll see. She was going to be my next pick. So the I, I, I mean, maybe it's the PhD bias, which I do feel for her on an NSF fellowship. So go girl. I hope you keep your funding. But anyway, I'm just like, I I'm, I'm really drawn to the purple tribe. I think just in general. And she was one of those people who I was drawn to.

[00:59:16] I think that she's had a lot of different experiences. And especially I said this on a B and B, this is like a very masculine energy cast. And so I'm feeling like Ava will be able to sort of fill in with that cast and be able to do, um, to be able to create a lot of connections. So I feel really optimistic for her. She has two pet peeves. Okay. One is lazy people, which I think is a bad pet peeve. Let's not perpetuate hustle culture here. You know, uh,

[00:59:46] No, let him talk. Let him talk. Number two, wet socks. Hmm. Oh, that's a good one. I hope she didn't bring socks there. Cause that's consistent. We never see those two things on survivor. Wet socks and lazy people. Lazy people. Yeah. Maybe combined. I don't know. Lazy people. How would that combine a lazy person wearing wet socks? Oh yeah. You're too lazy to take them off.

[01:00:14] Um, her age is interesting because 23 is not that young, but this cast skews older. So I think that is cause how much younger is she than the next young person? Quite a lot. Like far as 27, just in general, the whole cast, she's like years younger than the next person that, that might be not the vibe of this particular cast. Let's see. Star is 28, I believe. So she's only four years younger than, than her.

[01:00:41] That's a lot of years to be the next, the next youngest person, let alone like how, you know, like how the cast is skewing. That would be my concern. But I think she brought a lot of other things. I think, you know, I know Mike was high on her. Like she's obviously super physical, but then she's going to be like sneaky, really smart is the hope. So she's going to bring a lot of that. But I think like the biggest red flag is just how much younger she is than the rest of the cast. Yeah. I think she brings like a little sister energy, uh, to the game.

[01:01:08] I do wonder if she is going to be cutthroat or really be able to, you know, uh, you know, take advantage of like, um, making any kind of big moves against others. I think she's definitely smart. She's definitely strong. I just do wonder if she's going to be, have a killer instinct out there. She definitely gives me old school type player vibes. Cause, uh, she talks about physicality. It's such a big deal with her. She, I, you can tell she like, she's going to bro down.

[01:01:37] She's going to get, get with the muscle guys and they're going to try to run this thing at some point. And hopefully, you know, if things happen and she gets to the merge, there will be bigger muscle guys around that are probably challenged. So she could potentially hide behind. Um, but yeah, she made it very clear the type of player that she's going to be and work with. And so I think it'd be fun to watch, but I don't know if it's a winning strategy, especially like you said, being so young. Cause now she has to sit next to somebody with a little bit more life experience, uh, at the end and, uh, you know, be able to articulate why she should win. And sometimes that's a lot harder than it seems.

[01:02:08] Okay. Anything else on Eva? Okay. Zippy. All right. So Liana. You have pick number nine. And we'll end the first half of the draft. Yes. I, I don't know who Shannon's going to pick, but I don't care because I'm going to pick someone who just wants to be herself.

[01:02:35] My fellow open world crafting Stardew Valley playing gamer girl. I am picking Camilla from Canada. Uh, she was, I, she, I listened to her interview is later in the list, but she, and so I'd already gone through a ton of people and she immediately stood back out to me as someone who I knew I wanted to draft. So I'm very grateful that she ended up on my team. She relates to Erica, which I think makes sense. There's a lot of comparisons there between a fellow winners. She also relates to Carolyn, which I absolutely. What?

[01:03:05] Why are you saying? Don't worry about it. I'll say later. I'll say later. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Yell at the rest of them. Okay. This is fantastic. I knew I, what do we think about people being in the chat from a, what that means to their game? Like that one's gonna be pretty confident. Okay. That's gotta be a good sign. I think also there's another thing that stood out to me about her was, you know, she had talked about this vision that she had of who she was, which is she was this very logical person and realized she was emotional.

[01:03:35] And I can totally relate to that and like learning who you are and learning to navigate the world. And I don't know how that's going to translate into survivor, but I really want her on my team. So I picked her real. Yeah. My, she was my other top pick. Uh, if not for Shaheen, uh, she was honestly the person I thought I was going to pick. Cause I didn't expect to be number one. Um, why, what about the years of work you put into our relationship, Taryn? I didn't even think about it. I'm just so used to, I just auto assume I'm going to be like fifth.

[01:04:05] Um, she has one of the best pet peeves by far. Uh, one of the only good ones in the entire cast, uh, people who message me, hello, or can I ask you a question without actually asking their question until I respond. Every time this happens, I use a, lose a year off my life. I'm dead. Now this is relatable. That's incredible. People aren't giving enough voice to the fact that, and I think parents do it a lot. They'll message you and you're like, has someone died? What?

[01:04:34] No, tell me right now. You know, like that. Yeah. That is really stressful. Amazing pet peeve. Really glad it's been stated. Mm-hmm. Great explanation. Yeah. I love this pic. I would, I, I would have picked her as well. Um, so. Yeah. She calls out Marianna. Did it again, Liana. Taking my pics. As is tradition. Yeah. Camilla is a lot of fun. I think she's going to be a very big character on the season.

[01:05:02] She's somebody, she knows the show, especially well. She's watched all of the seasons and I think that she wants to, uh, start up a little chaos. Yes, Liana. Mm-hmm. We love, we love a chaos queen. She wants a very fluid season and is looking to, you know, uh, create a lot of excitement. Doesn't want it to be a boring season. Mm-hmm. See, that's what we want. We want to make good TV.

[01:05:29] Maybe she can hook up with Kevin later on, once they hit the merge and have truly the most fluid season of all. I just can't wait for Jeff to say, okay, your tribe's going to run to the left of this. And she's like, wait a second. We all have our weaknesses. Okay. No, I'm really excited to watch her. She seems so like, she seems like she has a great personality. I feel like she's going to be, um, I don't know why I feel like she'll be like comedic relief.

[01:05:56] Um, but I hopefully, I do also feel like she'll be strategic as well. I definitely get that from her too. Okay. Okay. It seems like everyone's getting pics they want. You're all so welcome. I'm a benevolent queen. Not Puyo, unfortunately. That wasn't on me. That was Tyron. Well, get me wrong. What way? Anyway. Yeah. Camilla. This is like a great pick. My issue with Camilla, obviously she's, she's a small, she's very small. And I don't, you know, these smaller tribes will lend you to being like, we lost one challenge. We got to get rid of the small person. And I don't think that's fair to her.

[01:06:25] Cause I think that, like you said, of, of all the bios, I think hers was by far the most entertaining. I think that we're going to get good TV from her. Uh, and she's going to make sure of it, you know, and that's what I want. Like if she's like, I don't want boring gameplay. I think she'd rather the game be exciting and her lose than to play a boring game. And I, I can kind of vibe with that too. What, what if the rest of her tribe is just tall? Do we know her back? She has giga chat on her tribe. Okay. They're going to be fine. She said she was five one. So, okay.

[01:06:55] It wasn't just like the whole scale was thrown off. Like she said that. Her tribe is with, uh, Kyle, David, Mitch, Chrissy and Charity. Yeah. So she does have some, uh, pretty good physical competitors on the tribe with her. Yeah. Okay. I just would like to say, I'm so happy for 48 that they got their tribe photos. Oh, yes.

[01:07:24] Why did they didn't do a tribe photos? You never saw them. But they took them. Maybe they were really, really, really bad and can never see the light of day. Right. Maybe they were doing you a favor. Okay. Does anybody else have any thoughts on Camilla? Camilla. She wasn't the pick. No offense, Camilla in the chat that I was holding thumbs for. So great for you. I have a certain person in mind. Camilla, you seem great. Excited to watch you on this season. Okay. We haven't said it aloud, but you know, Canadians do be Canadian.

[01:07:53] Exactly. So they've got a great track record in the new era. Okay. Shannon, you're not doing well with size pet peeves because she says she doesn't like people who say not to be offensive, but then proceed to offend you. So. Oh, I hate doing that. I'm so sorry. Did I do that? I didn't mean. Oh, I, that's a pet peeve of mine. I'm annoying to myself. Okay. First half of the draft is done. The back half begins. Shannon, you have the 10th pick overall. I'm really happy.

[01:08:23] Who will you add to your team with Thomas? Yeah. There's a couple of people I've wanted who have fallen to me. So the draft order has gone well for me so far. And I think for me as well, it's like getting the pressure off being the only person who hasn't won the draft. You haven't won. You suck. Everyone won, but you seven people, six person draft, et cetera, et cetera. And that was a lot of pressure. Now I'm like, I can have some picks for me. I really, really liked this person and I want them on my team. So Shannon.

[01:08:52] Oh, I'm sorry. I was just shocked. Are you? It's out of guy. It's out of guy. A lot of them actually. This is someone. This is someone I really wanted on my team who I thought could fall to me. She. I really liked her interview. Really funny. A fellow 30 something Jewish woman. I went to her Instagram and I saw her post that her cat who had passed away a rescue cat. And I thought this is a woman I can vibe with.

[01:09:21] And if I'm going off vibes, I'm picking Stephanie. Good pick. Okay. All right. Let's talk about Stephanie. Stephanie. She looks like a survivor winner. Um, I like when, uh, other people's interviews, Shannon were saying like, who's the blonde lady? I want to work with her. You know, like it feels like they had that magnetic energy just even in the pregame. Some may say sparkle. And you know what vibe I got now? It's a very high bar. And I'm not saying she has to reach this bar because this is a tall order.

[01:09:51] Although I think she is tall. She's tall. Yes. But the vibe I got was like a Genevieve. I remember really liking Genevieve's interview as well. Um, and that, that's the kind of energy I felt that I just really, Bryce would tell you this is the traditional survivor winner picture pose as well. Yes. Power photo. Yeah. She ate. It's a good pick. She has spreadsheets. I believe also Shannon, but she has a lot of data. You hear me.

[01:10:19] And she was talking about how she does the preseason for her drafts. And I was like, I see myself in you now that's bad obviously for survivor, but I think it's better, better than me. Um, so yeah, I mean, I'd pick 10. I think Stephanie, like Stephanie might have some sparkle to her. I think this is, this is a great pick. That's all, that's all golf clap. I like Stephanie. She seems like she is just like, she's carefree. She's unapologetically herself.

[01:10:45] I think it'll be so fun just to see her, like how she navigates this tribe. Um, and then, you know, she makes it deep. It'll be very interesting just to see. Cause I can't predict how she's going to play. I don't know why. I think it's because she is like, she has such a bold personality. I don't know if she's going to dial it back or she's just going to be like, look, take me as I am. So she's kind of an unknown to me, but I love her personality. Okay.

[01:11:16] Does anybody not feel as strongly about Stephanie? Well, I like the fact that she brought up that it, not everyone can play the same game. You have to play to your particular strengths. And so I think that that is a really good recognition. The thing is, is that I never really heard her say like, and this is my, these are my strengths and this is how I'm going to play this type of game to, you know, fulfill my destiny of winning. I think that she's definitely a really fun personality. She got a ton of attention in the preseason, but then also for the same reasons that we're

[01:11:46] going to talk about why preseason heat is maybe not such a good thing. I think that this could also backfire for Stephanie as well. She was sort of middle of my draft board. Yeah. She went 10th. So that's pretty good in the end. She doesn't like it. I felt like she would fall. She doesn't like it when people step on, uh, her flip flops on the back of her flip flops. It is annoying. Yeah. That's so legit. She also doesn't like QR code menus in restaurants. I get that too. To be honest, it's hard to make changes. Yeah.

[01:12:15] Then you're like, do I zoom? Do I, okay. I got to close out the app. Try it. It is pretty difficult sometimes. I like her because she feels like she would be fun to hang out with. She loves reality TV. And I know we all share that love. And she was talking about love is blind in her bio. She was talking about like all her references were just so niche of like television references, even her poverty reference of like, is this kosher? You know, like those things I said, okay, I wouldn't vote her out at any time because I would be wanting to hang out with her even more.

[01:12:44] And I think that if she can find her people, then she's good. Yeah. I mean, y'all were spot. Like that is a good going back to the pose. That is a really good pose. Cause you know, I know Bryce has a thing with the thumbs. No thumbs. I tried to, I tried to hide my thumbs and they're like, we can't see your thumbs. They cursed you. Mm-hmm. And in that moment. Yeah. Right. I was God. That's when my fate was decided. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:13:12] Asia, but with the photo, do you have a lot of freedom in terms of like what, where you get to place your hands in terms of like how you're going to pose? Like, or do they pose? Yeah. He has, he has suggestions though. Like if I started with one hand and he's like, okay, let's try the other one. Let's try this. Let's try that. Yeah. So I wasn't really sure what was going to come out, but even like digging my toes in the sand, he's like, come on, just stand on top of it. You know, I was trying little things, but yeah, there's, there's a lot of direction. All right.

[01:13:41] Any other thoughts on Stephanie? Good pick. Okay. Good pick. Let's go to now back to Asia for Asia. Second pick to add to the team with Bianca. All right. I'm going to stay on the same tribe, the green tribe. This is actually the second person that I wanted. So I'm kind of surprised. I'm like, what don't I know?

[01:14:10] Because I am going off vibes. Like I said, I got great vibes from Cedric. Cedric. Oh, Cedric. Hey. I'm so excited. Hey, just tell us about Cedric. So Cedric's 45. He's from South Carolina and he is a surgeon. He does a lot of like, from what I've seen on social media, he's like a surgeon who talks

[01:14:40] on TV as well. So I'm getting well-spoken. He seems like a very likable guy, a family man. He has that power stance as well. He wants to play like Earl Cole and Sari. So that's seems like a nice combo. Yes, exactly. Fun fact. I was on a flight at some point during the casting process.

[01:15:11] And I can't even remember. It was some point during timeframe where I didn't tell somebody for some reason. I didn't tell people about this, but I was sitting next to somebody who's really close friends with Earl Cole. Really? She's like, oh yeah. Like my friend. But it's a bull that you have communication with on flights. We talked the entire flight and somehow it came up. I never mentioned Survivor, but somehow it came up. She's like, oh yeah. Are you wearing a buff? No. But was that person in Survivor? No. Yeah.

[01:15:39] I don't know if I said like, oh, I'm a podcaster and then listed the shows. Maybe I think so. Maybe I did mention Survivor, but it wasn't like, oh, I'm going to play Survivor. Yeah. It wasn't that at all. And she mentioned, I was like, what a small world, you know? But yeah, I, I, I really like him. He seems like a really likable guy. And if he can find his footing, I could see him doing really well. Yeah. He was my next pick. He was a top five pick for me. I thought he might fall back to me because I thought people might overlook him, but I loved his interview.

[01:16:09] Like he's got an incredible career as much as I know Mike's going to be making butt puns. He's a surgeon, Mike. Let's all have some decorum. Um, and I think again, like with the cast spewing a little bit older, um, it's a great cast for him. He seemed, he seemed great. And I was really hoping to get him on the swing. So that's a bit unfortunate, but I think I know we're all being really positive, but the thing is that a lot of these people actually have good qualities. It was quite an even cast, but Cedric was a top five pick for me. My issue was five pick.

[01:16:39] Yeah. Ooh. Yeah, he was. That's not so much. I want to know. Right. Get on the Cedric train. He was great. Yeah. Um, my issue with Cedric is that he's almost too normal for his tribe, but he's surrounded by insane people and he's like, I'm very normal. I do this. I do this. I do this. I'm a scientist, blah, blah, blah. And it seemed very put together. And I'm like, what the hell is he going to do when Kevin pulls up? You know, and don't get me started on my girl, Mary, you know, like these people are

[01:17:09] not going to need, they're not going to have the time to be listening to Cedric trying to reel people in. The thing about Earl was that Earl was also surrounded by crazy people and he was able to reel them in. He had dreams in his alliance. Y'all man, these men, he was surrounded by insane folk. It is hard to do that. And so I don't know if Cedric is going to be like trying to keep this crew together, but they're going to be a hard group to wrangle. And I just felt like he might fall victim to some of the chaos that is this Vula tribe. Liana, I know you were pretty worried about the Vula tribe.

[01:17:38] You think Cedric could be an early boot out of that tribe? I don't know if he's necessarily going to be an early boot. I think he could potentially be the voice of reason in, uh, amidst the chaos, right? If you sort of have more vocal people sort of going after each other. So I think he could be okay early. I, I just, um, you know, I have concerns for him interacting with all of these wacky characters, right? The people that he's used to interacting with on a daily basis are sort of of a certain type. Uh, and so to come out here and play with these really interesting people,

[01:18:07] I think that it's going to be very different for him. So it might be a little bit of fish out of water, but I do think that he can probably keep calm, carry on. And as long as he doesn't get caught up in some pre merge, weak tribe, non disaster tribe nonsense, I think that he could make the merge. He stays ready. So he doesn't have to get ready. Exactly. It's the thing you got to every time. Look at his three words, dependable, determined and conscientious. Like he's too normal. It's true. But like that, that might be a good thing. That may be fine.

[01:18:36] Yeah. I could see him being the voice of reason of this bunch. Yes. He's also older than all of them. I believe it's like, he was talking about in his, in his interview, how like a lot of part of his, a lot of his job is like educating older people about, you know, their health benefits and stuff like that. He talked about his very personal story as well with that. And I'm like, that's cool for the older people, but what are you going to do when the chaotic kids show up? And I think he's surrounded by a lot of the chaotic. Oh, they're, they're younger than him. And, and I think they're very much more chaotic than him on his tribe. And he's 34.

[01:19:06] Look at his tribe. And he's 45. The youngest is 30 or 29. Sorry, Justin. It's not a, it's fine. Okay. Okay. My bad. But you said, as you said, he's been on TV and stuff. So he must have like some charisma. Yeah. He does a medical reporter for news. I love Cedric that I feel like he, he, I could listen to him talk all day long. And I think he's a very fun person to have on the show. I agree.

[01:19:36] Okay. All right. We're back to Taryn. Back to me. First of two picks for Taryn. The final pick of the second round and the first pick of the third round. Well, um, listen. And read those bios. You can see his eyes moving. Speed reading. Get off his back. Let me, let me, uh, let me keep my eyes stationary for you, Shannon. Um,

[01:20:07] Uh, so my next pick Shannon is, uh, is, is specifically designed, I think, because, um, you know, I, I really wanted to, to share, um, my winnings, you know, like share my winningness in general. Uh, that's, you know, that's why I, I picked the, the grenade on the season where I also picked the winner so that we could all share, we could all have a win. Um, and so, um, and so, I did that too. I did that too. Nice.

[01:20:35] Uh, I think it's only fitting that I choose charity. Oh, okay. What? Do you think she's gonna be the grenade? No, it's just, no, she's giving charity. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't have any, I'm sorry. We need to rehearse these references beforehand. I'm telling you, I got no story and I've been covering Australian survivor and there's no space. You're doing great. Oh my God. Shannon's covering Australian survivor. She hasn't mentioned it yet.

[01:21:06] I would think a lot of the viewers are going to be surprised to see charity fall to pick number 12 in the draft. I feel like that charity is a pretty trendy winner pick for the season. Oh, really? Is that what the streets are saying? That's what's up. Well, listen, she is not fond of when people, which I love this clarification. She doesn't say people who, she says when people, when people don't use headphones in public and blast their phones in full volume.

[01:21:37] Hate that. That is true. That's really annoying. I recently picked up biking or cycling, however you want to call it, riding a bike. And I didn't have my headphones. And so I was just playing the music out loud. Is that the same thing? It's quick. It's like, you know, Asia. We'll have to have a talk. I don't know. I don't know. This is up to charity. Wealth doesn't have headphones. I forgot them. I forgot. Yeah. But I think if you forget them at that point, like you can't listen to it like that. Unfortunately. Yeah.

[01:22:08] Maybe not at the volume you would normally listen. Move on. Move on. Okay. You have to, you have to listen the same way that Kevin watches Survivor without sound. Right. All right. But Tara, tell us about charity. Well, she talks about like really, she feels like a person who is very determined, very bold, and is going to be like coming at something really hard. And I think that's what it takes to win the game. She has to be very focused. You have to be very focused to win.

[01:22:37] She really likes working out. She seems very physically fit. And I think that, I think that like she has an aura, a vibe that feels very, I think, approachable, yet like don't mess with me. You know what I mean? I think that's a good vibe. She's also. Yeah. And she's also been successful in like her own fitness business. So she does seem like a bit of a winner. Wow.

[01:23:08] She's a flight attendant, which there was also a flight attendant on 47 who was very likable, Tiana, which I wonder if she used that to her ability pregame because pregame Tiana was very smiley and I thought it was specifically to me. And I was like, oh, we're going to hit it off. And then I found out she's flight attendant and was doing that with everybody.

[01:23:30] I wonder if charity has that like, like personality that's just like, oh, just on initial meeting, like, oh, I'm very like jovial. Very nice. Yeah. Survivor flight attendants have historically done well. T-Bird, Todd, I think Tina Weston spent time as a flight attendant. And there was also an Australian survivor winner who was a flight attendant. It makes sense.

[01:23:54] Like, it's like the service worker aspect, but also when people are like probably at their absolute worst, which is probably in itself a low bar when people are like however long into traveling and you have to just like have patience and be congenial. It does make sense that flight attendants do well. Maybe that's the profession people should be lying about instead of like loyal. Well, I think on top of that, she also started her own business where she works individually, like one on one with clients. So she's continuing in the service profession, essentially, where she's working with people, getting to know people.

[01:24:23] I love that drive from her. I just really, really enjoyed her energy. I need her to stick around also to give everyone nicknames. That's very, very important to me. So I'm hoping that that charity can stick around. She strikes me as the flight attendant that don't take no guff, you know, like, you know, T-Bird is the oh, well, come on down. I got you. Now charity is the one where it's like, sir, sit down, sit in your seat, put your seat. But the seatbelt light is on like she's not going to she'll smile and laugh.

[01:24:52] But when it's time to get things in line, she is going to be the one. And that's why I kind of was worried about her, because the we've seen in the new era, the people who kind of emerge as leaders are the ones who get chopped down. And I don't want her to be one of those people who have to like stand out so early on to where when we start shooting at people, she's the first one to catch a bullet. And so that's why I was concerned about charity. Mm hmm.

[01:25:14] Yeah. And looking at her, I just I just I have a hard time kind of putting her or grouping her with people that like she'll like that on first glance, you would think, oh, they'll get along really well. But maybe she just gets along with everybody. She could end up doing really well. Yeah. Okay. Anything else on charity? Okay. All right, Taryn, you have a second pick in a row here. Hmm. Yeah. And I have two options.

[01:25:45] And I've been thinking about it. And I went with I went with charity because I felt like her name fit my vibe. And so ultimately, I think I should stick with my theme here. We all know that I am the star of this podcast. Ah! Ah! Um, so I think it's only fitting that star is also on my team. Queen. I didn't think she was going to fall to last, Chappelle.

[01:26:14] I was praying. It was very unlikely. When I tell you, her grandmother named her star. That's a wise grandma. That is a wise grandma. She knew. She knew what she did. She's like she knighted her like you are a star and then boom, a star arose. Fair. And I love this pick. Was born, some might say. Mm hmm. She has she has some very good pet peeves. One questionable one. Um, she started teeth grinding. Mm hmm. Okay.

[01:26:44] Bugs that buzz. Oh, fantastic pet peeve. Very specific. But also it's it's like you immediately understand. Right. Uh, bugs that don't buzz. Not as bad. Bugs that buzz. Very annoying. Um, Beyonce haters. Speaks for itself. The questionable one for me. Harry Potter haters. No, she's right. Well, it depends at the moment. Actually. It might be. I don't think she's like that though, but that is that's legitimate.

[01:27:15] Fine. I feel like that one requires further clarification. Yes. I don't think that's what she means. I don't I think it's yes. Like, okay. Immediately rectified. Um, Um, but yeah, I mean, uh, just just again, I feel like, uh, just good, good vibes. She feels very sociable. Um, somebody who is going to be very like extroverted and, uh, like win over allies.

[01:27:43] Um, and, uh, I think that that's, uh, like a very good, a good sign here for star. I love her energy. She's just, she just pops off the screen. It's what Chappelle said. She is a star. My concern is how is she going to work with the rest of the members on her tribe? Like that is just the big sticking point that I keep going back to when I predict if they go to tribal first, is she going to be able to integrate? Well, I really, really hope so.

[01:28:11] And I think if she can have a couple of days, I think she'll be able to make some really strong connections and she just, her energy just radiates off the page. But I think that's another concern when it comes to winter, right? She is, we talk about these big targets all out in front. And I think that she is someone who could stand out in a way that people, she starts getting close to the end. People are like, are we really literally her name is star. Are we going to let her get to the end? She is a star. Yeah. People lie about the profession. Maybe she should have lied about her name.

[01:28:38] This is the first name that might actually make her threatening, but she might be a sparkly person. Gladys. This is Gladys. A twinkly person. No one's voting on Gladys. I do agree. I think her interview was a rollercoaster for me because it was like, who are you most like? And she said, Marianne. I'm like, I'm liking this. But then they said, what's your favorite moment in survivor history? And she said, when Chris won from the edge of extinction. And I was like, where have we gone? So pros and cons. I think a lot of pros. And I think that's probably where star sits for me. I think it could go either way.

[01:29:11] I thought you were going to say something, Chappelle. I'll let you go. Okay. Shout out to the locks. But I hope that she doesn't have the same fate as other people that have had locks. Like Sabaya, myself, JD. I hope she's more of a Danny, you know? Mm-hmm. Um, Star, you are my people. If, if you go, if you get voted out first, you don't have to give up anything.

[01:29:39] Come find me at the live show in Boston and we will celebrate how far you've gotten to the game regardless. Star, you are great. Chappelle will take the grenade if that happens. Yeah. That's what I mean. If, if, if it's Star, I'll be willing to discuss it. Well, that's the hope, right? I mean, Pooja, you must be hoping that one of these last two picks for Taryn is the grenade so that Shaheen can still win, but you can win the draft. I think he's hoping you get the grenade. No. Yeah. I, if I would, listen, Taryn winning two times with Shaheen, I'd be happy for him. Easy.

[01:30:09] Wow. That's not the vibe of the draft. I don't think you guys understand what's going on here. We're all rooting against you now. I gave you all the picks you've enjoyed. You've liked where you are. No, I want it to be higher. Well, could have thought of that before all that stuff you did. Mm-hmm. Okay. Taryn has a fully stocked team now with Shaheen and Charity and Star. Taryn is locked in. It is a good team. Salmoned in. Okay.

[01:30:39] There's one person I really want still and Asia, this is it. Well, Asia could be the one person standing in between you and the person you really want. Asia, you took so much from me last year. Give me this. Okay. Okay. Um, okay. I'm between two people on the orange tribe. Uh, so the, is it, is it the Siva tribe? Um, okay.

[01:31:07] Uh, I'm, then the two people are the guys. Just trying to read Shannon. Did you hold back a face there? Okay. She's fighting for her life. Okay. I think there's a couple of good picks that are still left on the board in this last five. There's still one that I, I think is fantastic. Okay. Um, Taryn, your team is done.

[01:31:32] Um, so I think I'm going to go with a fellow Texan. Mitch! I'm going to go with Mitch. Okay. Hey, she's talking about Mitch. Mitch. So Mitch lives in Waco. Um, he is 34. He's a PE coach. Um, but if you can also tell from social media, he's a runner. He's a crossfitter. He cares about his fitness.

[01:32:03] Um, he described himself as joyful, relational and competitive. So I can relate to that. Um, Mitch just seems like somebody who, if he can find his footing in this game, he can do really well. Um, and I think that this tribe is, is, is, is, is okay for him. Like, I think that he can find some, some, some point of connection with any of them.

[01:32:32] Uh, he seems like a very like happy guy and maybe they won't be able to know how competitive he is. I think it'll just be very interesting just to see where he lands. Um, but yeah, I'm going with Mitch. I like Mitch. I think that if Mitch gets to the merge, he's going to be a problem. This man is very fit. Uh, he's a walking athlete and they don't know it. It's going to be hot hidden behind that smile and happy demeanor, but I don't think he's going to be able to hide his competitiveness.

[01:33:02] I also think he's another one who don't take no guff. Uh, I think if it get real, Mitch is going to be the one to speak up. He calls himself a social butterfly and he's in the mix. Um, clearly he's going to be a story that's going to be told on the survivor this season due to his stutter being the first person with a speech impediment on the show. Uh, but I don't think that's going to hinder Mitch at all. He's clearly made it this far in life with that. Uh, it's just gonna be a matter of who's gonna fall victim to Mitch in his reign of terror. Cause I think I'm telling you when they want to get him out, he's going to win immunity and that's going to be tough. So this will be fun to watch.

[01:33:31] Well, endurance athlete is, I feel like is pretty well equipped to do challenges on survivor nowadays. So, I mean, I think his story is amazing in the way that he caused out called out Christie from your season, Rob, and like the representation of that, that he's not providing is incredible. It's a story people will want to cut. I think that's a bit of an issue is that people will think about that. That was my red flag.

[01:33:56] He wasn't the person I was thinking of to pick next, but I do think he's a really good pick, especially in this final round. So, I mean, I feel like it will be like good pick, but there are a lot of good picks. Well, was he a good enough pick that that was your person that... No, he wasn't. My person wasn't even on the scribe. So as soon as she said that I was like, oh, I'm out. There is a problem I think with Mitch, which is that I'm pretty sure he has to hate us. Why do you think that? Wait, why? Head peeves. People who interrupt. Oh.

[01:34:26] People who complain. People who are negative. People who always have to be right. I'm done. Four for four. I'm out. He's wrong. That sounds like the first half of the draft and not the second half. We chilling back here. Wow. Making teams based on draft order is crazy. Who made the draft order? I will say Mitch has also...

[01:34:55] So shout out to Survivor Texas. Cooper, who runs Survivor Texas. Awesome guy. I visited Survivor Texas. Mitch has now also visited Survivor Texas. So I just feel like we have... We're just connected here. So it was only... Asia, y'all got a secret society in Texas? So at the University of Texas at Austin, there's an organization called Survivor Texas and they run a whole season of Survivor in a semester. Ain't Mitch an Aggie? You let a Texas A&M... He is and he went.

[01:35:25] I know. We don't get along on that front. Correct. All right. Okay. Anything else about Mitch? I love Mitch. Yeah. That's it. That's going to be fine. Okay. Shannon had her person. Asia did not draft them and Shannon gets to take the person that she wants most here at pick number 15. Yeah. I mean, after Cedric, this was someone I really wanted.

[01:35:54] To add to Shannon's team of Thomas and Stephanie. Yeah. I think this is a great pick that's fallen very far. And I'm going to go with Justin. Okay. Luigi. Yes. I mean... He's an Ivy League graduate. He's disguised as a pizza guy. Yeah, exactly. Wonderful. That's a wonderful thing. I really liked his interview.

[01:36:23] I think again on vibes, likable. How old is he? Let's find things out. He's a vegetarian. I like that. He's 29. That's pretty good. He loves pizza. Who doesn't? No, he's obsessed with pizza. Like here's the thing. Who is it? He's really a manager. No, he... Everything about his interview with Mike was like, let me tell you about pizza. He was making time for that. He left his big fancy career to go basically run pizza. Pizza Empire. To run pizza. Run pizza.

[01:36:52] You know, like he just revolutionized pizza altogether. So no, this guy... His is gonna be a problem though. Oh? Because if I'm on the island and there's a pizza guy there... Pizza guy. I'm just gonna be constantly thinking about pizza. I just want him gone. Yeah. So I don't have to think about pizza anymore. His shirt says pizza on it. His shirt says pizza on it? In the game. Yes. Oh. I was like, I don't see that. He's running out. Yeah. Get that away from me. His shirt that's in Fisher right now. His embroidered?

[01:37:20] It's like I'm on a diet and I don't need that in my house. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's not his fault. I hear what you mean. I mean, if that's the reason he goes like, I'll take it, that would be unfortunate. I think there are other green flags other than the fact that he will remind people of pizza. So what is his own tribe? I think that has a reason to vote him out. His pet, what are his pet, look at his pet peeves, Taryn. He does have some pet peeves. He has, he has one that I liked. They're good. Pants without pockets.

[01:37:50] Oof. Useless. Cringe. Yeah. Not even a pant. Can't call it a pant. My wedding dress had pockets in it. What sells it to me is the useless in parentheses afterward. That he's making sure we know pants without pockets are useless. Yeah. They serve no other purpose. Yeah. I can't think of anything. He, he, he really liked, I believe Cedric was someone who he identified as getting good vibes off of.

[01:38:16] So that already, if the two of them can work together, they already had kind of have a vibe of going early. They just need to bring in one and two more. I think that that's a good sign for him. He seems just so passionate and I love that passion from him. And I think that that will hopefully draw a lot of people to him. He just, he just wants to share how they do their cutlets. Okay. Okay. Yes. And maybe a chicken parm for Pouya one of these days. Yeah, Rob, the deal's still on. Can't wait. Okay.

[01:38:44] I think that his family's pizza place is actually nowhere near where we're going to be in Boston. So that's the only wrinkle with our plan. Road travel. Road travel. Yeah. Um, you know. Okay. And you know, Bostonians classically do pretty well in survivor. Right. So, or the big ones, Rob. Hey. Boston. Yeah. Okay.

[01:39:12] You gotta love Boston. Yeah. The accent and the whole vibe and Matt Damon. Yeah. Okay. Uh, I was very surprised that Justin has fallen to pick number 15. I, I was, he's somebody I was very high on from the preseason. I think that he has the classic thing of having like the long hair and people think he's just like a surfer, bro, but he's actually a very smart guy.

[01:39:39] I think he's sort of so like sneaky athletic where he's not like one of the most like big muscly guys on the season. So he's not somebody with a big target on his back. So I like Justin a lot. He's a target on his shirt. I guess so. Yeah. Okay. All right. There are three picks left. Yes. Quick question of the three picks left, or I guess four or however many, is there anybody left that you were surprised is still on the board?

[01:40:09] Yes. You don't have to say. Yeah. The three picks left are what it's, it's Mary. It's David and Chrissy. Yes. I am extremely surprised that there are a couple of these people. Well, someone's got to go last guys. Like you can't all pick them at the same time. Yeah. I have to go last. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, it's actually surprising all three of these people I had higher than some of the picks are already off the board.

[01:40:37] So I'm, I'm very surprised by this, but for me, I, I, I did. So I, I'm going on an interview Jeff Probst gave where he talked about the season being dominated by partnerships. And what is the first partnership that was shown after Jeff Probst gives that quote? It contains Camilla already on my team, baby. And none other than giga Chad himself, David.

[01:41:04] So I am trying to manifest this, that survivor production, put this out here, that this is going to be a partnership that will dominate the season. And, and I'm going to bet on both of them. I'm picking David chocolate milk, Kenny. Okay. This guy got some arms on him. Oh my God. This is a fun pick Liana. There's no way he's the grenade, right? At this point.

[01:41:33] He seems anti very grenade proof of that in the new era, you know, and, and, and maybe Asia TK is like the exception to this. But, you know, I feel like in these small tribes that, you know, you, you would think it would be odd to vote out such a person who's going to help you so much in the challenges. I almost learned that the hard way with TK. I was so close to being grenaded out of my win. And I know a lot of people thought that I would pick David. Is he a, you know, buff guy?

[01:42:03] I usually go for that. Um, but David didn't even like know who Jeff Probst was. I feel like that's a less like too little information for me. Like, I don't know that I pick like the Jonathan's. I feel like I go for like, you know, the Sam's like buff, but strategic and David doesn't have the strategy to get him to the end. Or we just hoping he like fully beefs out to the end, which is possible. Just to put a finer point on that Shannon, that he did not know who was. I don't know who Jeff Probst was at some, at some point in casting. I, or I think he knew who it was, but he didn't, he didn't know Jeff's last name. I think he didn't know. You're not making things better.

[01:42:32] What do you think you're explaining this away? What, what part of that? I'm saying that I, that I believe since that point. And when he went to go play the show. He still currently doesn't know who Jeff. No, I don't think he's going to get on the island and like put out his hand for Jeff and be like, I'm David. Who are you? I don't think that'll happen. I think at any point that he didn't know who Jeff Probst was is already enough for me. And this doesn't make it better, but I mean, like, can you win without that knowledge? Like maybe, but then it's like when Mike asked for his kryptonite, he's like, I can't think of anything.

[01:43:02] I'm like, maybe that your lack of knowledge is so low that you like don't know who Jeff is. Like just acknowledge it. I feel like it's a bit of a gap just for me. I do think this is a little bit of like a fan light season in terms of the modern era, at least. But I still think it's going to be very difficult to win the game knowing very little about the show at all. I think that like at the very least, like you just don't fit in very well because most of the people that play are big fans of the game.

[01:43:29] And if you don't speak that language, it's going to be, I think, even more difficult to sort of explain your game in the end. In his partnership with Camilla, he will be trained. She will teach him. He's going to drive him like a car. Puppeteering like Ratatouille. That's what we're going for. OK. That's a really good point, though, Taryn. I think last year's cast Asia season, those people were not voting for someone who didn't know the game by the end.

[01:43:56] You know, like they were like, I mean, it was Rachel won pretty decidedly, but it was close between her and Sam. And they were like going through each of the finer points of their game, really trying to make a case for it. They get to David. They're like, he made it here. We're not quite sure how, you know, and he doesn't really know. Survivor winner ranking tears was discussed at the 47th. Right. It's a little different, though. I think the 47th. He got the spreadsheets. OK. And so, yeah, like they were at Ponderosa crunching the numbers.

[01:44:22] And so I'm thinking if this cast is anything like that, David's going to have a pretty uphill battle trying to explain to people why he should win over somebody who's a little bit more learned in the game and can explain their moves a little bit better. But I don't think this cast is like that. I think this cast is is a different breed. Yes. But how far do you have to go from like there's a there's a don't know who Jeff Probst is discussing winner rankings at tribal. He has a good point. She has a good point. You know, not knowing the host of the game is an extreme version of I don't know the game like.

[01:44:49] Like, yeah, man, it's anonymous with the show, you know, pretty important for Survivor. But I think that, yeah, like while I don't think 48 is the level of fandom of 47, I still think that there's a way to go then to where David is at with that. I just think like, yeah, is he going to outplay people? I don't know. Can we talk about how his photo could be like a movie poster? Beautiful. He is a genuine like the lighting is perfect.

[01:45:18] You can see every like striation on his arm like it's it's just phenomenal. I can see the blue in his veins. This is very this is a fetching photo. We get to move on. I can't look directly at in my eyes. I'm starting to. OK, all right. Anything else on David? I think, you know, obviously half of Australian Survivor cast are like beefcakes who don't know who the host is.

[01:45:44] I should be more familiar with it, but I feel like it doesn't fit in as well in in US of that. But that's my one thing with it. I did a preview of the season with Nicole yesterday. Nicole hated David, I think more than any other person she encountered in the new era. He's he's a very polarizing figure from what I can tell. I think people have really strong opinions about him or no opinion about him at all. Yeah, I think he's going to be fun to watch. All right.

[01:46:13] OK, all right. So there are two picks left and this brings us to a really important inflection. Point in the draft. We have Chrissy and we have Mary and Pouya is going to decide who is going to get whom of these final two picks in the draft. So Pouya. Would you like to decide who you're going to get or do you want to decide who Chappelle is going to get? Look at the power I've given you. Yeah.

[01:46:41] And by the way, if you want to listen to that podcast where I went through the cast preview with Nicole, you can hear that that podcast just dropped while we were on the air with this podcast. Oh, how did we do that? What? Yeah. Yes. Just came out. You record a podcast while you were on the air. I recorded the podcast in the middle of the day yesterday. It's the way you planned it to drop during this podcast is impeccable. Rob. I love that for you. Yes. OK. Well, they're called maneuvers.

[01:47:10] Enough organization. Anything's possible. Chappelle. You it's like you hired so many people and they just made it happen. Yes. Chappelle. I kind of feel like you're my guy in the trenches right now. We've got the bottom. So let's have an open bit of an open discussion. I'm leaning one way quite heavily of the two. But yeah, what are your thoughts? OK. On these two. I too have one of them higher than the other.

[01:47:37] OK, but like my vibe this time around has been chaos and one of them is giving me like, like the chaos, like I feel it. I feel it for them now. Also, I don't I don't know how long they are for the game. So I'm really interested to see what you decide to do to us. OK, well, I feel like you can't have the two best social media appearances preseason. You know what I mean?

[01:48:03] Like, I think off one tweet that I saw alone, I want Mary on my team. I'm very surprised Mary made it this deep for me to pick. I love, love, love me. Mary seemed like the person who will take you to SeaWorld and free the dolphins. You know, I'll follow this lady off a cliff. I will go wherever she want to go. Let's go. We will be in jail together because she is nuts. And I love it. Good pick. Yeah. Good pick.

[01:48:31] At number 17 for Puyo, who takes Mary. Yeah, I just Mary is a lot of fun. And I mean, obviously, the deeper in the draft we get, the more you're kind of like maybe trying to avoid a grenade or whatever. I just Mary is such a good personality. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. And quite frankly, I want to have fun. So I'm very much here for it. Okay. I'm shocked that she fell this low. I thought everyone else would take her high.

[01:48:59] I had a couple of reasons I wasn't going to take her and here they are. One, she said she hated Taylor Swift. They don't appreciate what has Taylor done to receive like to be hated. Nothing really hate worthy. Did Charlie talk her up too much in season 46 that she just finished watching? A lot of people hate Taylor because she is so loved and I don't agree. That's the and then the second thing was that with the beware advantage, she was like, I would take it but not open it to retain your vote. And I'm like, that's not how it works. Once you take it, you lose your vote. That's such an obvious loophole. Don't you think everyone would do that if it was available?

[01:49:28] So those two things were my major red flags. Okay. Mainly Taylor, you know, mainly Taylor. That makes sense. I love Mary. I loved her interview so much when she talks about being a social worker. That was cool. But when she talks about like kind of her lineage of like social justice warriors that she come from, her mom and dad, like, I'm telling you, we go, we go, go protest something tomorrow. Me and Mary, whatever she wants to go do. I'm down it.

[01:49:55] She like, look, if I got to go break somebody out of ice containment, that's what I'm gonna do. And I'm like, yeah, baby, I'm going. Let's go. Let's go do that. Abolish that shit. You know, like all of that got me real riled up, even though she was saying and she was talking about it. So matter of fact, but then she said she let the cake, the crazy slip out. She was like, yeah, I'm kind of a chaotic energy. I was like, really? Because you sounded like such a like, you know, like a force for good and this and I'm like, but you identified. I've learned a long time ago in drafting that the ones that tell you they crazy, you got to believe them.

[01:50:23] Maddie Pamela, her bio said that she was feral. And I was like, yep, I'm drafting that. And look, no regrets, but she did not lie. So that's my only issue with Mary is that she has identified that not only is she a little, a little chaotic. She's also, she's small. She's very small. And that's why I'm concerned about if her tribe goes to tribal council, if they would be willing to cut her to keep tribe strength. The only reason that she was pretty far down on my list.

[01:50:53] And the main reason is because she identified the most with Ben. And I just, I was, I was very confused. Ben Dreebergen. Yeah. Yeah. I can play out well. Played out well last season. Well, it didn't, she, I think most people think of Ben as the person who, okay, he found idols. He played the idols. That's the type of game that they want to play.

[01:51:17] Obviously they didn't like that at the survivor 47 tribal council, but with the spreadsheet, with the spreadsheet, what she said that what she liked about Ben was that he played the spy. And it's sort of like a little bit of a, uh, not super memorable part of his game, but there was a point when he was acting like he was still with Chrissy and Ryan and still working with them. And then he was like a double agent. And so she really liked that one particular thing that he did.

[01:51:45] He had a ferocity that transcended. Yeah. Yeah. I think the, one of the red flags that stood out to me was her need to be in control. So I think that that could potentially get her into a little bit of hot water, but this woman is a quote machine. She was absolutely wonderful. I think she's going to be so fun in confessionals. I also just liked her general approach to life about, you know, look, I don't lie in real life. It brings down your vibrational energy.

[01:52:15] Like, okay, well we might have to do a little bit of lowering this time. But also the idea of, you know, learning to say no to others. So you can say yes to yourself, like print that on a t-shirt. I would buy it. So I'm, I'm really obsessed with Mary from a personality perspective. There are just the few concerns that were raised by the group. That is the reason why I didn't pick her. She almost overrode my naming theming, uh, based on one pet peeve alone, which is slow drivers in the left lane. We've heard that before though. Have we not discussed this?

[01:52:44] We've had people have, listen, it's still a good, listen, it didn't override my pick, but it was, it's still a very good pet peeve. Mm hmm. It is. Okay. All right. So that's one half of the story that Pouya gets Mary, but Chappelle, I think you got a real steal. I think here at pick number 18. You're welcome. Okay. I'd love to know your thoughts on Chrissy. Well, Shannon seems very high on this pick.

[01:53:13] So Shannon, since it was such a steal, would you like to swap? No, I'm not. I'm not. I just wanted to make sure. I just wanted on a record that you are being facetious. Okay. You did really well. So I'm just saying. Yeah. I mean, I'll make the case for Chrissy if nobody else will. I know I'm about to, uh, I like Chrissy. My, my issue with Chrissy here is that she's like, Hey, these super fans are doing too much. Now this might actually work out for her because it doesn't seem like the super fans are that super here.

[01:53:40] There's a couple, there's a couple, but if she can get to like the situations where she's hanging out with the Davids and Joes of the world, I think Chrissy's at home. And I think she's going to have a compelling story if she makes it to the end. Um, she's feisty. I like her. I like her energy. Uh, she gives me like, like tough energy because I think she was like, what is she like a paramedic or something like that? She had, she had like a firefighter who does, um, but she also, it does, uh, works as an EMT. Yeah.

[01:54:09] So I'm like, look, we love a healer. And so there were definitely good moments in her, in her interview that stood out to me. It was just like the things about like, you know, I think some of this stuff, it's kind of, y'all kind of doing too much here on the super fan front. I'm like, Chrissy, I'm a super fan. I'm, you know, I'm trying to like, we, I can't just, you can't just be like trash talking me. And then also like, I'm a draft. You so like, that's my big issue. Chrissy. I tweeted, she's the only survivor player aside from Mitch that I've tweeted about that's on this cast. And it's because her name, Chrissy Sarnowski is a survivor name.

[01:54:38] Like that just sounds like Chrissy Sarnowski one survivor. I was like, I can hear it. I can see it up in lights. So yeah, I'm not mad about this pig. I think the concern is always is that like oldest person on the cast and like people hate all the women. It's not her fault. God forbid you get some dirt on her face as well. That's not necessarily true in the new era. I think that there have been older women that have gone far into the game that I think that people had to take out because they were going to win like a, like a Julie.

[01:55:06] Maria, I think was also somebody that if she got to the end. Heather. Heather. Well, Heather, I don't think would have gotten any votes. You don't know. Yeah. We don't know. Look, it wouldn't maybe, you know, who knows? Yeah. I think the new era is more diverse in the way that they will vote and they'll value different things and they'll like maybe assess their own biases. And I think we've seen that. But even with that, I still think it's quite a hard road. And yes, it has been better for some of the old women like Julie Maria. And I totally see that. So there's definitely a pathway.

[01:55:36] And we're saying this is an older cast as well. But even with that, we do sometimes see old women with like zero voids. And it's like, again, that might pertain to their game, but it's, it's just a hard thing to come into the game with. It's something you usually are fighting against, even if it's less so in the new era, I think. I don't know. I just feel, I don't see those concerns at all. Like, I really feel like she's going to gel with this cast. Yeah. I think that her, her work experience, her background, I, the, you know, obviously, okay, I hear it.

[01:56:04] Like cheating is, or doing puzzles in your basement is cheating. But for this cast, that fits. Like, I think that she's going to have a really, like, isn't going to have a problem, especially doing the cool, cool aunt thing. I think that that's the right way to approach this. The cast is older in general. So her being quote unquote, the oldest member of the cast is not that bad of a thing. I'm yeah, I, I'm, I'm really shocked. She fell this far. I think you ended up with a great picture bell. I'm shocked too. Yeah. She was a potential winner pick for me.

[01:56:31] I think she's also somebody that she's incredibly strong. Uh, she's a, you know, female firefighter. She wears a 65 pound back, uh, backpack when she has to go through her training. She's also somebody who I believe in the game of survivor, that authenticity is a real superpower. And I don't think that she's a fake person at all. I think that the players are good enough that they can sniff that out. So she's real. She's strong. She's likable. Uh, she has a really positive attitude.

[01:57:00] So like, I think that also that maybe people might discount her a little bit also because that she is a little bit older. And I like that people who have a little bit of like a flaw that people might give a reason to not think that they are the threat that they are. So Chrissy to me seems like the total package. Yeah. Based on my pet peeve criteria, you guys really messed up this draft because you left a lot of good pet peeves at the end. Uh, and Chrissy is one of them.

[01:57:27] She doesn't like it when someone doesn't wipe off gym equipment and leaves it all sweaty. Gross. I didn't go to the gym, so I can't relate. See, sometimes I bounce between, did they just wipe it down or is that sweat? Yeah. Cause that's still bad. If they did, if they wiped it and it's still wet, you gotta dry it. I can't just, you can't raw dog it at that point. You gotta make sure. Just leave it wet like that. Yeah. Ew. I wipe it always. Just to be clear. Always be wiping. Um, so the other thing that I liked about Chrissy. What? Yep.

[01:57:57] Um, yep. The B and B ladies and gentlemen. Um, so, uh, she also talked about how her biggest superpower is that she could connect with people. Right. And as an EMT, you know, you've talked to people in such extreme situations. I think she could be a calming presence if she wants to be, but she doesn't sound like she's afraid to play the game either. Right. Like she doesn't seem like, like it's all about loyalty. I'm going to take it to the end with my, my final. No, I think with Maria and Charlie, she was like, yeah, whatever. Do you cut, you cut your number one. If you got to cut your number one, they got to go. And what? And then what about it?

[01:58:27] And I don't have to vote for him if I don't want to. Like, I was like, all right, Chrissy. So now Chrissy wasn't, I going to, she was not last on my draft board. Uh, so I'm very happy, uh, that, um, I got this pick. Okay. All right. And with that 18 players have been drafted. Uh, Chappelle fills out his team that he now has say Kevin and Chrissy. And then let's, let me bring up the whole, the whole, we got the whole thing.

[01:58:52] Taryn's got Shaheen charity and star Asia walks away with Bianca, Cedric and Mitch. Shannon has Thomas, Stephanie and Justin. Liana has Joe Camilla and David. Pouya has Kyle, Eva and Mary and Chappelle say Kevin and Chrissy. Okay. And that is your survivor 48 draft. Asia, did you feel rusty? You jump right back into it. Yeah, I did.

[01:59:20] I did feel rusty, but I actually love that. We are all so widespread on this. Cause I feel like sometime in the past you pick someone, everyone's like, Ooh, yeah. Or you pick someone like, yeah, I'm glad we just didn't all agree. That shows how great this cast is and how many personalities there are. And everybody has their different strengths and stuff. So it was okay. It was like riding a bike. Okay. Message from the chat. Uh, Hannah Rose says Chappelle, don't pick the grenade again. I miss you too, queen.

[01:59:52] Unlike the rest of y'all, me and the grenades, we all hang out. You know, they were all good friends. If you draft so many of them, uh, you know, you just start a little club. We got a group chat. John too. Yeah. I have a winner's club. My only one that won't text us back. You know, He texts me back. Yeah. Asia, get them on. Come on. Tell them to text me back. Okay. Rob, the chat is loving my team. Put some of those comments on the screen. Gary said, I think Shannon is the strongest team.

[02:00:19] And Tubby lunchbox says, I, Shannon's team is very strong on paper. Oh, that sounds like shade. Get up. Get up. We have, we only have any paper here to be honest. I guess I'm holding some cards. Literally holding paper. Yeah. I love how Tubby got you. Okay. That's from that. Okay. All right. Matt Forrest. You'll be betraying me on the back end. Cause Matt for us. I'm going to be locked in. What is this? Stop putting these people up on the, on the screen. All right.

[02:00:48] Well, that is our draft for survivor 48. I mentioned that the Nicole preview is up as well. If you want to hear that, that's in our podcast feed, go to get rhap.com. If you're not yet subscribed also here, all things survivor at we know survivor.com. We've got a busy night coming up on Wednesday night when Steven and I will be back to break down the two hour episode. And then on Thursday, I'll get the chance to talk to you.

[02:01:17] Great friend of the podcast, Zach Wordenberger, and we will have a long form chat about this week's episode. Plus I'll speak with the first player voted out of the game on Thursday. All right. Let's talk about what else is coming up for the crew. All right, Taron, what else is going on for you? Listen, we're, we're counting down to when big brother starts this summer.

[02:01:43] We're going through all of the previous 26 seasons of the show week by week in the weeks leading up to the new season this summer, having a great time. We're on big brother nine this week. Um, so if you need a refresher on what happened in the black hole that was big brother nine, uh, we will be, uh, refreshing your memory on said orgies. Um, so if you want to hear about big brother, check out our big brother retrospective podcast.

[02:02:13] You can also check out our, uh, we know scripted TV podcast, the tastemakers where we talk about the news in TV and film, as well as what's new, what's worth checking out and all kinds of fun stuff like that. Okay. All right, Taron. Great job tonight on the draft Asia. So nice to have you back drafting. What exciting things are you working on these days? So nice to be back drafting and it's so nice to be back just consistently podcasting.

[02:02:39] I will say backing away from podcasts worked on one person. And so it worked, you know, worked out for me again. Maybe I could have been podcasting all along and had the same fate. Um, but you can catch me on the love at first sight feed right now. I'm talking about married at first sight with Jason Reed and Mari fourth, and also talking about love is blind season eight with Jason Reed and Mary Kukowski.

[02:03:04] Last week I was on the free agents pod with Matt Liguori and Scali talking about the traitors next week or this week. I'll be on the black by reality pod talking about the traitors as well. Okay. And Asia has so much excitement going on with married at first sight. Her and Jason get everybody worked up and excited for the doing live podcasts. Yeah, that was so exciting. We did go live for episode 15.

[02:03:33] We were throwing up comments and stuff. It was so, it was weird, you know, being live and Rob was nowhere in the vicinity. I was like, are we doing the right thing? But we had a great turnout. We talked about the most exciting episode there's ever been of married at first sight us. So we, there's an affair situation going on. So it was very exciting. So even if you don't watch a show, go check out the podcast because we cover it all. And check out the Facebook group that Asia and Jason have about married at first sight.

[02:04:00] Yes. We come join our 1.4 thousand people on the perfect match podcast. If you try to join, if you like, Oh, I watch married at first sight or, Oh, I watch love is blind. Go look up the Facebook group. Just put in our HAP draft and I'll let you in. Cause we require a password. Okay. All right, Asia. Great job tonight. All right. Shannon, the champ came in hot tonight. Australian survivor is going like nobody's business.

[02:04:29] Not sure if you heard. Yeah. Australian survivor coverage is happening. Zippy content. We know global survivor.com five podcasts a week on that. So we've got possibly the recaps. I thought it was Chappelle, Pooja and Mike after every episode TBD after this draft, I did tell Pooja yesterday after we spoke, I said, it's all women's all fun and games. No hard feelings. I did say that. Look how he's looking at me, but I think we're going to get him back onto the recap. So that's what we have. Might be Mike three nights a week coming next week.

[02:04:58] And then the feedback show this week was Nick Hyadanza. One exit interview a week and then survivor global for survivor 48. My first guest is Mark Warnock. Follow me at Shannon Gates for all of that content. Okay. All right, Shannon, good luck. Hopefully we get to see you crowned again, a repeat champion. Hopefully. Although this TR is made for a child and I was like, why do I have a headache? And I think it's because of the TR. Okay. No, I think. Yeah. All right. Liana, what's coming up for you?

[02:05:26] Yes. Well, if you want more survivor content, you can check out the B and B. We did our preview podcast where Mike and I went through casuals comments on some of these contestants. It was very, very, very fun. And also drag race podcasts are going strong. So if you are watching the show, definitely check out the pod. Or if you're not even watching the show, come hang out with Beth, Amon and I, and then Pouya and I are doing the Pouya and Liana lounge affectionately called pal.

[02:05:51] If you liked the banter on this podcast, the pal is your perfect place to get more. You're that mean to each other? Yes. Oh my God. You guys. I've got a rant brewing for the next pal. You have no idea. It'll be there. So have fun with that. Yeah. So check that out. We and Liana.com for that or the RTP YouTube channel. Yeah. Okay. It's very fun.

[02:06:16] I feel like I know you two both so much better than I did seven weeks ago. We love it. Sure. A lot. Yeah. Rob and I are vibing on some things, you know, same audio books, but we're more me mocking Rob's audio book. Yes. Yes. Okay. All right. And Pouya, you and I just talked, we had a busy day today. This is a third podcast of the day I'm doing with Pouya today. We spoke earlier today.

[02:06:43] I won't spoil the traders, but the latest banished trader, we did an exit interview with them. Definitely check that out. And then we did our traders feedback show with big brother, 24 winner, Taylor Hale. It was a great podcast. Taylor brought the energy and I was very happy to be in the vicinity of Taylor to get all of that energy. So let me check out the feedback. We had a good time there. Um, also Liana's already plugged hours.

[02:07:09] My acquaintance over there colleague has named the other show that I cover every Tuesday talking Australian survivor. And I talked 90 to fiance on the hot mess express. Come check that out with new season has started. And Chappelle, I think you'll be interested in this season. There's a throuple. Hey, I mean, Oh yeah. I might check it out. I don't know. Okay. Yeah. All right. Great job tonight. Pouya.

[02:07:32] And then Chappelle in just a 24 hours time, uh, you and I and Jenny, we back recapping the latest episode of deal or no deal Island. Dundi. Yeah. Um, not to spoil Dundi, but, uh, we've had some good times. We've had some bad times and now we're going to see where we go from here. As we talk about the next episode of doing no deal Island, uh, Jenny and Rob and I every week are doing that. And I'm doing exit press with Jenny, uh, when we do exit interviews with the eliminated contestants every week.

[02:08:00] So check that out on, we know, Dundi.com. Uh, you can also, of course, hear me talking about Australian survivor with Shannon at the beginning of every week, kicking it off. Uh, as you know, she covers a billion episodes of Australian survivor. So make sure you check out that, uh, as well. So, uh, Rob and I also got together and talked about the premiere of suits LA as in a way is like comparing suits LA to the suits podcast proper. And what we liked about suits pot, like suits proper versus suits LA.

[02:08:30] We had a whole thing. It's on suits podcast.com and, uh, you can catch it over there. And I think it's on the, we know scripted TV feed as well. So check that out. If you are a big fan of suits, suits podcast.com, suit yourself, all that good stuff. Go check out what we had to say about suits LA. Uh, also Mary and I are talking about it's extracted on Fox. Mary's telling me all these cool stories about how she sleeps outside on purpose sometimes. And she runs and her family like lets her and it's a whole thing. And I'm just like nodding along and we're talking about it's crazy. It's a crazy show. It's so much fun. Check it out. And then check out the coverage.

[02:09:00] It's a press, uh, as well. So, uh, a lot more coverage for extracted. Um, then on my podcast recap, kickback, uh, we are doing a for the, to wrap up black history month. Of course, we're doing a black cartoon character, Brant steel, uh, for black history month to find out which of the black cartoon characters is going to reign supreme as our first sole survivor. Uh, and it's heroes, healers, and hustler style. So you have to tune in to see which characters ended up on which tribe and who, uh, comes out victorious over there on recap, kickback.com.

[02:09:29] Uh, also Mari and I are talking about the SAG awards and NAACP image awards and clean slate. Uh, the new TV show starring Laverne Cox. So go check that out. And then you can catch me guesting over on the crying laughing podcast with Dr. Amanda and Ariel talking about the pit. It's the best show on television and you need to go watch it. And then check out the podcast with Dr. Amanda and Ariel and I, as we went through the entire season, uh, so far to this point. And I gave some brief opinions about the white Lotus and you can follow me on social media

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[02:10:34] This Friday we'll kick off our survivor. Bye.