Survivor 47: Tevin Davis Recaps Ep 3

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey everybody, what's going on Rob Cesternino back tonight after episode number three of Survivor 47

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_04]: and this was a tough night. My only consolation here is you got such a great guest here with us to talk about everything that's going on from

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Survivor 46 the great Tevin Davis is here. Tevin, how are you?

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm blessed Rob. How you doing? Thank you for having me here. I didn't know what I don't own much black

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I have very bright colored things, but I didn't know if you wanted me to wear black or not

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we'd be in morning. I know today is a troubling day, but it's gonna be okay

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Sure sure and yeah

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Definitely a sad night here for us at RHAP

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_04]: To see our friend and colleague Asia go out of the game

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_04]: but I'm you know so damn proud of

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_04]: What she did and the game that she played and look that this new especially in the new era this game is

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_04]: You summarized this game one time Tevin, and you forgot to add that this game is a fickle bitch

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_04]: You can use that

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_04]: You can add that to the synopsis

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I will make sure to add that I will definitely add that because that is that is a true statement

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know I said it when I played to is like to get there is the win

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So somebody unfortunately has to go first second third fourth whatever in that order

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah to get there and to be selected and to be ingratiated into the game at all

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Is the win so I'm also very proud of the game she's playing. I hope that she's proud

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope so too and you know it and you can play a scared game

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And you can get to the end and you can get zero votes too

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So you got to play to win and you got to take risks and I was very proud of

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_04]: The stand that Asia took tonight, and I think it could have worked if

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Some more people would have had some courage tonight, but we will talk about

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_04]: That first off Tevin before we get to all that. How are you doing? How you been?

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm blessed. I'm good. I always say if I'm above the dirt, I'm good. So I'm living I'm good

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been working doing a little acting thing

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I left it kind of overlap with the finale of season 46 and all summer

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I was working at the Illinois 6-bit festival and that place had never really sold out any tickets

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But I had so many people that watch survivor and that were fans of mine or just love the show come out to see the

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Show and see me perform and we sold their place out pretty consistently

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: With with that so I did that now. I'm doing Kamala Harris impressions and oh

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Everything is great. Yes. What would vice president Harris have said about tonight's episode?

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: She would have said let me be very clear. Okay, it is a hard fight

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay to get to the end it is you have to understand that you cannot just call a lot of a coconut tree, okay?

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You have to fight because when we fight, let me be very clear about this. Okay, we win

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, okay, so does you fight and you don't win also?

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know if we could go back maybe I would tonight

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That's correct, but unfortunately we can't so we have to turn the pain

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, okay. All right, and we'll cheer for everybody when the coconuts fall and get opened of course, okay?

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, uh, throw that you're here send your questions in we'll take them later on the show

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll have an exit interview with I can't believe it a very surreal exit interview with Asia coming up on Thursday

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And then Stephen fish back will be joining me for the survivor

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_04]: No, it all is back on Thursday afternoon Stephen after a week off will be back with me 3 p.m.

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_04]: But let's let's start with the

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Lavo tribe and

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_04]: What Asia was presented with tonight because such an interesting circumstance. Okay small tribe

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Six people Rome has the advantage has an idol to

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_04]: tough spot there's

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_04]: seemingly three pairs and

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_04]: In the swing position ends up being Kishan and teeny who feel like okay. Well, you know Rome has all the power

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I think we have to go with him. Do you like?

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Where they decide to go instead of trying to go with maybe a bolder move

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. I think it's very very smart because as teeny summarized it tonight

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You know teeny was like listen

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the power to fight against what Rome has so rather than trying to fight against forces that I don't have the power

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: To fight against I might as well get and swim with it

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that that is very very smart

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But I did see that at the end that teeny actually didn't end up voting for Asia

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So she did end up voting for Saul which was kind of put a chasm between the voting of Kishan and teeny

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was a bit shocking to me

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that it is the right move when you know for a fact that Rome has that kind of power

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You kind of have to swim with the current or you're gonna get sucked down

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Kevin the thing that I'm just left with is thinking about like was there a way to disarm the

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_04]: The Rome bomb in that if you have four people and you have two pairs

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_04]: isn't there a way to and I feel like with all due respect to Rome who

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Has been a very colorful character so far it seems like okay

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Rome has an idol potentially and maybe I'm not sure if Asia knew exactly how many tribal councils you could play the idol on but

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_04]: To think that he would play an idol on Genevieve

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I just did not see that as a realistic option ever for Rome where could you

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_04]: make Rome scared enough to think okay, I better play my idol on myself and

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_04]: either

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Just flat out put the votes on Genevieve or if you want to be even more conservative

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Can't you put two votes on Rome and two votes on Genevieve and on the revote just vote out?

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Rome if he doesn't play the idol and Genevieve if he does I

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Think there is a world where that can happen. I just think everyone is actually well actually no

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I have to correct I have to fact check myself

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so so okay

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So if you do that if you do two to two and then he plays and then he plays the idol

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Then he gets what he gets a revote

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'd have to do the quick math on what happens there in that in that two to two split

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_04]: so three people then who got votes on them or

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Wouldn't get to vote. Okay, right?

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_04]: This is when people are listening to the podcast and are screaming at me because they know what would happen

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So they put three

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, they put two votes on Genevieve two votes on Rome two votes on Asia say okay Rome played his idol

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_04]: So his two votes don't count he gets to revote. So then it's then

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_04]: teeny

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Kishon Rome

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Saul get to

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Revote and then teeny Kishon and Saul vote out

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Hmm well Genevieve in

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's side. I think this would work. I think this would work. Okay, I think it would be

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It would be okay to make that happen. Yes, I think that I think that it could have happened

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I just I don't know if it's you know, maybe it's a it's a direct correlation to season 46

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Where people are like, you know what? I don't need to make a big heaven. We saw so many of your friends tonight

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_04]: We saw yeah

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Five of your friends popped up. Yes

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You did not see me. I did not have an idol. I did not go home with it

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So you did not see me, but we did see a lot of my friends

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, unfortunately the recap of their unfortunate demises, but I think that what it is

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a direct correlation between 46 and 47

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: What people are choosing to do in this new era based on the information that they have and information that they have

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: From 46 is one if you have an idol you could go home with it because they saw it what happened in our season

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And the other thing is that people were trying to make big moves all the time and that cost them their game

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think now people want to kind of sit back and drift not necessarily drift through

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But they don't want to make the big bold moves right now

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: They want to wait till later, which is probably the smarter option hues and everybody's head

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_04]: He told them all they made big mistakes. I can't make any mistakes. I gotta play tight

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Gotta play very conservative

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_04]: What's funny though it's happened about that them talking about your season is that they left

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_04]: After Tiffany got voted out. They didn't even see Venus and Q get voted out with idols

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That's correct. So it's actually much worse

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: If they only knew

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_04]: If they knew what was gonna happen, yeah, they only knew yeah, so

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I do feel like that you know Asia is putting this interesting spot where teeny kashan kasey to her

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, we want to work with you

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_04]: But we need you to turn on your ally and it's interesting because in survivor 46

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_04]: So much of the storyline that we saw was that people had no problems turning on their close allies

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_04]: That Asia felt like no I I want to stick with Saul

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think that that

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean as we're talking about things that correlate and that being a direct correlation call back to

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: 46 of them being like I'm not gonna do that this time because I don't think that worked out well for a few people

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that that was also a direct response

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But at this point, I just don't know I think Asia could feel the vibes and be like I don't know because she doesn't want to

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: work with Rome she's very

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Blatantly said that you know and I think that she when they when kashan and teeny were trying to make her flip

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: To turn on Saul I think that rubbed her the wrong way and she was like well

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you all trying to convince me to turn on this person when the person?

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to tell you about is Genevieve so I think Asia was very much trying to be in control of who

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: She wanted to work with in that moment and she just didn't want to move on that which might have been you know a

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Very key moment in in her demise there tonight

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Kevin I really feel like there's two schools of thought in the new era

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm personally conflicted thinking about this of that. Do you just want to get through the pre-merge?

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Just you know by hooker by crook just just get through it vote vote anybody out

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Or is it important to have these numbers because we saw in season 45

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_04]: That we saw the Reba tribe come through and even though there was a tribe swap that they came through and they were a

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Cohesive group and that was like the clearest plan to get to the end

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Sticking with your numbers and of course that was not the case in survivor 46

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So if you're teeny and kashan are that are you just looking to get through the pre-merge with whatever?

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever group you can

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean I think I think that that is I don't know I honestly don't know I feel like it's a mix of both

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that a lot of these people that that play especially now are like this

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_01]: There's super fans and so I think that there is a conflation of like two different those two thoughts at the same time of like

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what? I just need to get through but at the same time

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I know that I need to have the numbers of people are both trying to slide through and try to align themselves in the proper

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Way to have the right numbers to go

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that that is when you can get in trouble in this game because you're playing both sides of the coin

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And once people find out that you're playing those both sides and you're both trying to hide and be prominent

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that it can catch up with you

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know that's a that's interesting and difficult and I think loaded question in this new era. It's tough

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I would love to hear your take on Rome and you know, he's been such a big

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_04]: colorful character so far in this season and you know, frankly

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm rather mad at him for one that I feel like I can't enjoy him as much as I would be liking to

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Enjoy him after what he pulled tonight

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_04]: But on the guy was what a find by survivor casting

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_01]: What what a find? Let me tell you my god today

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he is just out there like a Tarzan and it having a good time. He's good

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's catching fish. He's doing the things he's good at these things

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time he's so erratic and I knew from the first one

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw him jump his body face first dirty hair dirty neck dirty body into that well, you knew

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like now, you know, so he's so

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_01]: erratic and

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, but but in some way the survivor gods are with him regardless

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's doing all this crazy stuff and you would assume why you're gonna go first

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna go second. No. Oh you have a

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: advantage you have a and you have a idol and

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Like how are things working for you?

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Like how are things working out for you? And it is

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Crazy to just think about how someone like that can go through the game and not have the consequences

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Even though everyone sees that they are consequential, but the consequences don't follow them

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you make a good point where that he's doing things that you feel like oh, hey

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Big mistake big mistake, but you know, I do I do feel like that maybe is there a tightness from other players after

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_04]: watching

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Coming out of survivor 46 where okay?

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Rome is saying okay. I want to go I'm gonna go and be on the journey

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean I feel like that

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_04]: everybody other every other person on that tribe is

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_04]: It's in their best interest that Rome does not go on the journey

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Like how do you step in and stop him of like no no executive decision Rome is not going on the journey I

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Mean I think that they all just needed it to come together and find a

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Sneaky way if you wanted to if they wanted to be firm about it

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I guess they could have because they have the numbers that they're all working together

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But we know that they aren't but I think that

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Someone should have spoke up and found a way to get out of that situation whether be like no

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's try something else or or I don't know make something make something up

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what the thing would have been but I would not have let Rome go on that thing

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially if we know he already has one thing, you know the journey is gonna at least have some type of advantage

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: whether or not he gets it or not is a different, you know question, but I

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Would not have let him go in that circumstance

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was so interesting that they did the journey here in the third episode now you got to go on a journey

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And you went back in the first episode when it's a little bit more

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_04]: You're sort of like feeling everybody out and you don't really know who's who and maybe it's like oh

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to step on toes remind us. How did you end up being the person to go on the journey?

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: It was happenstance, so we actually use now me use our

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Shot in the dark die because it had six sides on it and we all chose a symbol

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I happened to choose whatever symbol that this was and I think soda maybe or Hunter one of them rolled it

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And then it came up on my symbols and I was like I have to go and then I got the boat and I left so we you know

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Democratically chose to roll the dice

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think that had it happened day six or day seven that the boat showed up that it might have gone differently?

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Then some kind of like random draw

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I think so because I think we did it that way just to make sure that because we didn't know who each other were

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And no one wanted to volunteer and no one right to be the decision-maker, so it was fine

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But later on in the game

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you you have a little bit more information and you might want someone to leave so you can figure out how to kick them

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Out of the game, so if I was wrong

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I also wouldn't have wanted to go just because at that point in the game people are discussing like who's up out here at this point

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want to leave and leave you all

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: To talk about me while I'm gone somewhere where you know that I'm possibly going to get something

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's gonna put more of a target on me

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and it wasn't even like a situation where you know like when Bonnu went and that they oh well

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll take Rome to go over there

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_04]: You know it was the worst-case scenario for everybody involved that he got to go and then

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_04]: For him to go of course he ends up

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Getting the advantage on the first try

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But I do feel like that the other two people who went in

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Annika and Kyle I thought that they both played scared in terms of this game that they did now that this game was more similar to

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I believe it was in survivor 44

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I think when it was I know it was

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Matt

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Who went and I don't remember who the other people were

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_04]: That went that had this similar thing of okay, you have three shots. I think Lauren also

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_04]: might have been there and

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't don't ask me the person from the from Tika that went

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Was was there a Sarah there was there a Sarah

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, thank you chat. Thank you. Okay, but basically

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Once you once you took your you lost your vote

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Kevin would you have put your hand back in the bag and potentially lost your vote again? Oh

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: God, oh God, I I mean at that point is 50 50 and I feel like if you're gonna lose your vote

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It is smart to just go ahead and call it a duh like a loss

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So that you can at least have your vote back for the next tribal council

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you do slip by one, you don't want the stress of feeling like I'm gonna go home

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_01]: If I if I make it through this one

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh god, I have to do this again

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So at least you're safe knowing I have my vote back but at the same time if I'm going on a journey

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm playing survivor and I'm not here to win this money. I think I might just have to take the risk

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a 50-50 you might get it

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You might not but if if you can if you can have your alliance members strong enough and then you can rely on them and say

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, hey, I tried I even tried to get my vote back. It just didn't work out

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have my vote for two tribals. Let's figure something out

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why the numbers are important

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why your alliance members are important so you can rely on them in times like that

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think I might would have risked it. I didn't go all the way out the PG to play scared

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Right

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that the move is you know put your hand back in the bag because you basically get two shots at it

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_04]: You know and I'd have to I don't know if Christian Hubicki is watching

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Along tonight to tell us like what the odds are but I mean you end up being over 50 50 between

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_04]: You know a one in three and then you also have a 50 50 chance of getting to the advantage

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, you know, I think that that's probably a better advantage play

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think that both Kyle was very scared and also so was Annika

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_04]: But I mean just take a look at what having these advantages did for Rome's game

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. That's it

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But it also you have to look at what is happening back home

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So like they they're going in with a full like

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Cognitive set of what's going on back at camp and it's funny that the three people that ended up going on the journey are three people that were

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: like in arguments and and

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Spats and tips back at camp on a cut and Sam going at it

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm gonna get to go on the journey

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You got Kyle on the bottom and Sue wants no parts of Kyle because of that vote that he's slung on her

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you got, you know, obviously Rome going so it's just interesting that, you know

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I think they would play it safe because they already know they're in precarious

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_01]: predicaments based on the vibe of what's going on back at their, you know individual tribes. Yep

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, Christian did write in the twitch chat have I been summoned? Yes, Christian

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_04]: What is the odds of getting the advantage if you play twice?

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Please let us know because I think it's decent he was on it. I think it's decent but

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Frickin Rome doesn't even need two tries one try sticks his hand in the bag

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got one try I think the survivor guys are on his side and I just I don't understand how he's doing it

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's the same way with Q. I feel similarly cute like Q kept throwing his head on the chopping block

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You know during 46 and for some reason he just kept on going and going and going and going and going

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like the survivor gods coat these erratic players and it's so interesting

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean do you think that there is something to that?

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a method to the madness of that when you know people who are like playing predictable

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_04]: You sort of like know what they're gonna do

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_04]: But then you have these elements that are a little bit more erratic and then everybody I think gets a little tight

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so I think people I think that that in this new era

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: The thought process is like if someone acts like that then that is someone that'll go before me

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But the danger is when you do that that person actually

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Stays longer than you because no one is targeting them at all

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So you keep using them as a shield or whatever in front of you

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But then they end up running the game later and you have you can't catch up to them

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that it is a strategy and I don't think that the new era players have caught on to how to

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Manage it yet because it's still new mm-hmm

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_04]: So in this group that we saw go to tribal council now, okay?

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_04]: If Asia is out of the equation now, I mean where what do you think this tribe looks like moving forward with?

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Roman Genevieve who we know nothing about and then teeny kashan and then there's Saul who is the powerhouse

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_04]: But is on the bottom

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so oh my god, so him clocking he clocked all the things throughout the episode

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like wow Saul is like really good at reading these people but

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know because the votes were so so sporadic like the votes were everywhere

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like oh my god, this is not what you want to happen

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You want to vote with your people and have a cohesive thing so going forward we know we voted together here

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So I hope that we can vote together there

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: But someone the votes do that it's kind of crazy. So I think that that tribe is gonna kind of

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of fracture a little bit and they're gonna have to find new structures

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think that the structures that are currently there are gonna be the ones that go forward

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think people are gonna reevaluate where they stand in two

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, if this group goes to another Tropic Council, Rome is actually now again the thing about Rome is that he could play this

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Perfectly or he could completely blow it both things are in the realm of possibility

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_04]: But a steal a vote in this spot is precisely what he needs because if he

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Didn't have the steal a vote if even it just had like another idol

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_04]: That wouldn't help him as much as the steal a vote because now that there's only five people in the tribe and so okay

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_04]: So if he's with Genevieve and Teenies with Kishan then okay

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh Saul is the swing vote great

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But now you steal Saul's vote and you know you make Saul vote against himself

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And then even if teeny Kishan want to keep him then Saul is gonna be the next person to go home

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's it. Oh my god. That's still my goodness gracious. That's the other vote is crazy. So yeah, and some crazy, you know

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So what swipe of the wand?

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Rome might be running this game and running this tribe for even longer with that extra advantage that he has though

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how it's gonna shake down and shake up

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that it's gonna be I think it's gonna get worse before

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. Yeah, but do you think that this is a sustainable

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Strategy for Rome because when these players get to the merge

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't you feel like that?

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_04]: You know this it doesn't seem like that

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_04]: He is a person who is going to be able to hide once you get to

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_04]: The big group of all the players and I feel like that the other people that he is with

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Especially if Saul is gone

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Genevieve who we don't even see on the episodes and teeny and Kishan who are not necessarily

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: You know the I don't want to say not big personalities, but I feel like that in this big group of players

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that maybe they would come across as non-threatening

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_04]: whereas Rome who's been so loud and

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_04]: There's gonna be all the stories of like all the things he found and said and did that

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_04]: He's got to be such a big target once they get to the merge

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_01]: For sure, but it I think

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Certainly for them, but I think that it depends who is at that merge when he gets there because you have somebody like

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Gabe who said he wants to play like Russell hands

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And so if you have someone that's trying to play a big game like Russell hands

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody like Russell hands might want to look at somebody like Rome and be like, you know what?

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I need you to cascade in front of me

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: so do you align with a person like that to

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Draw attention from the fact that you're trying to run the game and manipulate everyone into getting you to the end and use

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Him as a shield like that or do you do you x that person out of there because they're so erratic?

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what these players are gonna are gonna do but I think that there is

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It just depends who's over there and what their intention is

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_01]: For how they want to get to the game. Yeah, and maybe for Kishan and

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Teenie they're looking at it like okay, let's just like hide behind Rome

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_04]: When we get to the merge that he'll get picked off will be fine

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I think that the way that they're floating right now is that they could find another group

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: They could find another alliance and like could fit in Rome is so sharp and and jagged in his gameplay

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That it he doesn't really slot in to everyone and everything so he will definitely be in front of them

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what teeny was alluding to or not alluding to she literally said, you know

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna swim with this and let it let it drag us downstream because I can't fight it right now

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So let him go to his own demise. Well, I don't see it lasting beyond the merge too much

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But who knows this is survivor and everything flips on his head like Andy. I mean everything can can turn around on a dime

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[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about Andy and what's going on at his tribe over at Gata

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Then you know we saw them wake up in the morning and they were complaining about the bed the bamboo

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And Sam said come on. It's bamboo who cares? It's not the Ritz Carlton

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what tell that to Randon, okay? I was about to say that he could say what he wants to

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But random woke up and

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Non-functional so for me one arm

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_01]: That is a fair point to make that this bamboo is not okay at a certain point

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I stopped sleeping on it and I actually would rather have slept in the dirt

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And I did I slept in the dirt every night because that bamboo is yeah bad like you look at it like oh

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It's bamboo. It's not supposed to be comfortable, but it is like damaging to your body in the worst ways

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, what's the issue? Is it just the bamboo is is hard or it's uneven like what is the

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_04]: For the people and we did not have bamboo like that in the Amazon, so I don't know

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is so big and and and thick and like

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Just it is it is so hard and it has no give and when you are laying on it

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It is like your nerves get shut off like your blood flows like in your arm. I woke up many times

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad I didn't wake up the way Randon did but I did wake up many times

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And I could not clench my fingers for like the first hour of waking up because it is just your full body weight

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Pressing down on this hard bamboo and then like you said, it's not even

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and so we did the best 100 I did the best we could put in our shelter together but

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing to fix that

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Hard bamboo and a lot of it has these little these knots on it like at the certain point of the bamboo

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It has the little ridges and those are like they cut into you like cut into you

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's almost better to just sleep in the dirt and forget about the bamboo all together

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, honestly, what's the issue with sleeping in the dirt or the sand? Are there bugs? I

[00:29:10] I

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Well when we were there there was ants there was ants everywhere

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean the I would think it would be spiders and snakes and but it was like ants everywhere

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was an issue, but I have arachnophobia and I didn't even really see any spiders crawling on me or anything

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I slept right beside the fire every night and there's nothing wrong with the dirt

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_01]: The dirt is just fine

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's I think people like the bamboo maybe because it makes you feel like you're elevated above the ground

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you are that close the things are gonna get to you regardless

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'd rather just lay on the ground and call it a day as long as you have a roof

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care where I lay down at just give me something to block that rain

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, maybe some of the sun and I'm good. Okay, so we saw some of the tension going on between Sam and

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Anika

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Did did that feel familiar any kind of that camp tension from your experience in Survivor to Evan?

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_01]: There are sometimes in the game where you just don't vibe with someone and I clocked that Sam and Anika

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna do that based on the last challenge that they did when they were trying to work that little ball with the three sides

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, they're not communicating well at all

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So I felt it bubbling up and then when they you know put this clothes line wherever they're putting up

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like yep, there it is. So yeah

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just sometimes you just don't vibe with a person and that's okay because we are not out there to be friends with these people

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We are just playing a game 18 strangers 18 different paths

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And it just kind of is what it is as long as you can make it through the next day

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Tevin, why was their clothes line so complicated? I feel like

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Like a close it's a string right it's just like that's a string here like but over here

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Like why are we getting into science and math like we don't need christian for the make the clothes line

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Anika's like, you know, I'm trying to want to know go peace prize here

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to be on like some rich like scientific list of like the greatest just like mathematically

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Scientifically, I'm gonna tell you how the slope and the curve of a plus b squared equal c like I'm trying to work it out

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like listen all you need is your clothes to dry just get it up there

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that I could feel her on was when sam started swinging that machete

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he was mad. He got hot. This is like jack the ripper and like this is

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know why was so complicated from I made a clothes line

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they ever showed in our season

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But I made a clothes line and I literally just took a vine and I wrapped it around one tree

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And roped it to the other one and wrapped it around the other tree made it as taught as possible

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And we hung clothes up. I mean you just it's not it's not a laundromat. You know, it's yeah

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_04]: It seems easy enough, right

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know so

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_04]: For baby andy though

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_04]: It looks like that he found an opening after it looked like that he was really

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Down and out and he was on the bottom

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_04]: He somehow got through that first tribal council

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And now it's starting to feel like that he is showing not just signs of life

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_04]: But also that he is uh feeling like that he's got his like survivor legs under him

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, his vim and vigor is back. I want to say I clocked it on episode one

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I said, you know what andy is down right now

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But I bet you they're showing this to us like this because he's gonna have an emily flipping transformation

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's gonna be a completely what did you see? What did you see?

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I just I saw I I I saw I think it happened to me around the moment when jeff was

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Talking to him and jeff was like listen. He was like, you know, they were gonna vote me out

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I had nothing I couldn't do anything couldn't do anything and jeff was like

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not done until your fire is extinguished like you have life

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And then there was a couple confessionals after that where andy was like, yeah

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I could see the the the survivor glow in his eye and you know it when you see it

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like that boy is not done that boy is not done

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's going to find his way back and honestly my hot take is that I think andy will make it all

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait till the final three

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that kind of a story from being feeble and dilapidated and you should have been

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Home gone home and you made it to final three because you never give up until your fire is out

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And he found it and mitigate his his chaos and made it all to the end

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_04]: What is andy doing that bono was unable to do?

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You see rob these are the things that you do and you see I just have to respond and you see god

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_01]: God just helped me five. Hi. Yeah, that's okay. That's what bono said

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, do this. Okay. Listen. I think that

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_01]: bono was trying though

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And like he bono was emotional and he was you know fighting and and trying to get through it

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But it seemed like every time he would get to a different turn and try to get help

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It just wasn't working

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know. I think what andy is doing is that he found where his weakness was and then he lowered it

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_01]: He went, you know what? I know where I messed up. I see how I could have been kicked out of this game

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I see how uh what I did was probably not good. You know what I'm gonna do

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to sit back and I'm gonna observe now and figure out. How do I find my way in and I don't think bono necessarily

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Took a step back and went, okay

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: What am I missing what what puzzle piece is missing and how do I feel that hold before someone else does

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And instead bono was trying to figure out how to go to someone to say make my puzzle piece fit

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And he says I am the puzzle piece. I'm gonna find a place for me to fit. Okay. That was incredible. Great answer

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, well done again. Okay tevin

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Andy did something very interesting tonight. He went to sierra and said, okay

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I I've got sam but I need to get sierra on my side and he said to her, okay

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Here I'll give you my shot in the dark

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_04]: um, and that seemed like

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It really was a gesture

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_04]: That sierra seemed like very moved by that like oh wow

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I like I wasn't really feeling andy, but he said here's my shot in the dark

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So I have to trust him and I was thinking about like

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_04]: So that works great that move seems to have worked great on sierra

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_04]: But there are other folks that you say that to them and they're going to say oh great

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_04]: What an idiot now i'm gonna vote him out and keep his shot in the dark

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_04]: How do you tell the difference between?

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Who a gesture like that will work for and who is going to blow up in your face on

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_01]: the screen

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you can I think that that is the the crux of the survivor game and it is a four four letter word and it is

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It's used in survival all the time and it's called risk and so

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Andy took a big risk, but I don't I don't think that he was I think he just did he was like

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I have to do something and so when you're back is against the wall

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You ain't got nothing to lose so he was like, you know what?

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you my shot in the dark believe me trust me trust me

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But it really could have turned out bad for him and when it first happened

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like oh my god, Andy. What are you doing?

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And then when she was like I trust him, you know, this is a great move for for him

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And now I have to work with I was like wow again these survivor gods are showing up for these people who I think are making big mistakes

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Cue's voice, but it ends up working out for them

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And so it it's all about risk luck and how do you adapt when it turns out good or bad for you?

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm hoping that it's going to be enough to help out Andy

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_04]: If and when he has to go to that tribal council

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like the tide is turned against onica

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_04]: It seems to me like she's the person who's in the most trouble if they go to another tribal council

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: That is that's very very true

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And to not have that vote and to be on the bottom with sam because it seems like sam is is kind of having his foot on the gas for that

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Tribe and so to be against him and to not have a vote

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But again if if her alliance members are strong enough to hold her down while she is down and out

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Then she might could bounce back through it because I have faith that onica can make it far in this game

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Now if she's given, you know, just this kind of

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You know shitty hand then I don't I don't know but that's kind of the game too

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's it's not looking too good right now

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Would you make out of and they really in the preview tried to make it seem like onica just came out and said like hey

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you guys a couple? Uh, and it turns out that she's uh relaying to sam and sierra

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_04]: The questions that she got asked when she went on the journey

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_04]: But what would you think about how that came out uh with the reactions from sam and sierra who are both spoken for

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And are not in a showman's

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_04]: But they both got kind of put like uh on the back foot

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Having to sort of explain like hey, well, what is this?

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think one it's always a little bit awkward

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially if you have somebody back at home and now you have to defend your yourself on you know live tv

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_01]: National tv about this thing but also I think what they were saying was like oh, this is dangerous because they are working together

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So now you have a already

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you just have a spotlight drawn on you and and you have to figure out how do I go forward working with this person?

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Now knowing that not only do they think that we are, you know working together

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_01]: They think we are together together

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So that muddies up their alliance completely and how they go forward after that

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know but they will have to do some real mitigation

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Kevin can I just tell you my life would be over if I was the if I was sam

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And then somebody was saying like oh rob you are you and her you're in a thing

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh that and I was like honey if you're watching

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_04]: That there's nothing going on here

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_04]: It would be

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_04]: It would be over that if you

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Kevin if you talked to my wife about the the women I was on survivor with 20 years ago tonight

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd get in a fight

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Now rob let let me let me be very clear. Okay. I watched you on that season. Yeah, your mouth was very

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Back then rob you was talking about a lot of stuff you was working

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_02]: We weren't together yet

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like rob is daddy mac and piece

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_02]: On national tv. You were watching a different show

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, there was no daddy mac game

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_04]: It was you it was you no you're you watching you got confused. It was boston rob

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're watching no, I don't know. I didn't know if I was watching survival or the love boat

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know who was I didn't know which episode I was watching rob. I don't really love island

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay. All right. Let's talk about what's going on over on the blue tribe

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_04]: The uh tukku tribe and we saw last week after tk got voted out

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Kyle was in a bit of a bad spot coming out of last week's episode now

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_04]: We didn't get the explanation that we were all asking last week about gay playing the idol

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_04]: That he just said, oh, oh, I you know, I heard my dad's voice and I just had to play the idol

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Were you hoping we would get more of an explanation of what gabe was going for there?

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was hoping he would expound a little bit because I remember I was a little bit shocked that he didn't

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You know play it for sue in that moment

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I thought he was gonna do and then he ended up, you know

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Playing it for for himself, but I think you know just to burn it again a direct correlation to 46

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want the target. Um, I don't want to go home with it

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he had to play it anyway, but I was hoping that there would be a little bit more

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe there will be maybe later

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He'll come back and have a confessional and be like this is exactly why I did this was my master plan

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But right now I'm just kind of left like I don't really know what what your thought process was right

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know right now. Yeah, okay

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_04]: So gabe was still, you know feeling pretty good, but then he's trying to

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Double back and they got tiana to work with them to vote out tk

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_04]: But now he wants to go back and sort of like okay now

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to sub out

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Kyle for tiana

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_04]: In the alliance is he going to be able to make this work with sue and caroline?

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't sue sue is

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Sue is a strong player. She she has very strong convictions

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't know what what he's gonna be able to convince sue to do because sue does what sue does

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It is a tsunami for sure

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It is a tsunami for sure

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't I don't know if gabe has been

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Able to move the pieces in the right ways so far. He's been kind of a pretty key decision maker in the game

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I think so far. Yeah, so I think that it is possible to to be done

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_01]: tiana's my winner pick

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I really feel like tiana's going all the way and so do you still feel that way because I felt in the preseason

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I felt like that she was probably like one of the top two or three picks

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_04]: But I feel like and she was very quiet this episode. I feel like that

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_04]: In the position she's in right now. I'm not feeling too great about tiana

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like I feel like again everything can change on a dime

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But I felt last episode I was like tiana's in a great spot

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I felt that way because I thought she was a key vote in getting tk out of the game

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_01]: tk

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Was coming after her or so she felt about the smile thing and she was like you come after me

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Then i'm gonna have to come after you and she was able to swing vote

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Her way to get tk out of the game and then went back to being a non threat

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_01]: No one's really thinking about tiana as a as a threat

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And if she can make it through the game and do some more moves along the way

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_01]: She already has a great, you know or starting to build a great little resume though

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Just too early to think about that but like

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen every time somebody mentioned my name and try to come after me or go after me or you know trod on me

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They were gone. So I think it's it is a beginning of a great book

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's okay, right well, maybe she could have a baby andy like

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Rising from the ashes, but I really felt like that she made a big mistake when she voted out tk

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I don't think that tk was coming for her and I think the tk wanted to keep

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Like tk was kind of feeling like that gave is too squirrely to want to work with and I thought that

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_04]: sue

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Kind of sold her on the women's alliance being a thing and so I thought that she ended up

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Making the wrong decision and maybe she didn't want to potentially go to rocks

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And maybe she might have been a little bit scared about that, but I'm worried about where tiana is but maybe

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm more worried about kyle

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh god poor kyle poor poor. I really do love kyle a lot

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know with the way that this season is going yeah everything is so different

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have the the sweat and savvy the journey is different the journey's at a different time

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Like everything is kind of different and even the advantage like steal a vote is now in play

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That wasn't during our season. I wonder if this season to keep the trend going that there's a tribe swap this season

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, and if there's a tribe swap that completely undermines all of the dynamics

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_04]: We've been talking about right now. Yeah, it would be interesting if there was a tribe swap

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like that the one time in the new era that we got a tribe swap was in 45 where

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_04]: It was a season where uh lulu lost the first three challenges and uh, they were down

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Three people and I believe know that uh, nobody else had gone out of the game

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_04]: So it was six versus six versus three

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe and I don't know how they build the season if they build it if they decide ahead of time

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_04]: There's going to be a swap or if they have like a switch that they could flip

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Of okay, if it ends up being so lopsided

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's do a swap, but this is an interesting season

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't think we've had this in the new era the chat will fact check me on this where

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_04]: We had yellow and then blue and then red go to tribal council where that this is completely even

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm running that that is

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know Rob. You kind of

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_04]: That's so interesting. Yeah, so it's 555. Oh, so I don't think that we would have a tribe swap

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_04]: First time yeah

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So I wanted though

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I like look I like the tribe swap

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_04]: But I feel like that it's also you know, we're building these stories in these three tribes

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_04]: So I feel like that there's still a lot that I want to see how it's going to play out

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_04]: But for first off now could Kyle be in the Andy Griffith alliance. Could he be there?

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Could he go to mayberry?

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I think so Kyle's very sweet. Um, I think Kyle is is loyal

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's but he kind of was like, you know, I think tk was the right choice

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So he did make a good move with with that

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think um, I think he could have been in the in the Andy Griffith alliance

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know actually I'm gonna say no Andy Griffith is Andy and Barney and that's it

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it third so actually no, but he could have been an extension

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_01]: He could have been like a spin-off of Andy Griffith

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_04]: So that we see where Gabe tries to bring

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Kyle in and offers him an olive branch. Okay, great

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_04]: All you have to do is vote against tiana and

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Kyle who I did not think would be trying to do anything underhanded in the game

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Seems like just like the nicest guy. He does try to play a little sneaky and he goes to sue and caroline says, hey

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_04]: He does so you know

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_04]: That Gabe you think he's your friend

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_04]: He wants to he wants to take you to the end because he thinks that he can beat you

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's like so what are we gonna do about that?

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Sue I feel like correctly is like hey

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Listen, buddy

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Like oh like Gabe wants to take me to the end. Oh my god. How horrible you voted you tried to vote me out yesterday

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true. I mean that that is very very true, but I mean

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_01]: He is on the bottom

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to find a way out

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to turn the tide and like yeah into a place of power and so I get it

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But I also get sue and and what she said, but I think the way sue responded was the thing that was like

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Be careful too because I think that that could have that could have easily and it still might have they kind of shifted away from

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It but that could put her in a bad spot because of the way that she chose to respond in that moment

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean Kevin, could you imagine what a dream if you found out that somebody was trying to take you to the end?

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Because they thought that they could beat you

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it call me go

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You call me go all day long drag me drag me all the way to nana. That's what you got to do

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so oh my goodness grace. I don't want I don't want to put that burden on you

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But if you want to yeah, take me and Kyle's like see I'm trying to help her out and she's not even receptive to this

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Like uh, Kyle Kyle none of but he's so sweet and I want him to you know make it

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he I think he he can but I don't know that that tsunami is strong. I think the tsunami is very strong

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Kevin I don't like to talk too much about the previews

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Because we'll still have next week to talk about that but what the hell is going on that they find there's like that

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm hoping that this has got to be some kind of like situation where they let in survivor 42

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_04]: The contestants put like fake blood on or draya stuck her hand in the red paint

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_04]: But they don't know are teasing like there's been like some kind of like crime scene accident

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. I don't know. I looked at it and I was like what is how it's like is this an episode of yellow jackets or like

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's going on right now, but what happened

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It don't look it don't look too good

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm I'm like

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It I mean the only thing that could cause that much blood is a cut so I'm like maybe it's the machete gone wrong

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I don't know but that's a lot of blood. I think you're almost dead

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_04]: arm off. Yeah, I mean

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_04]: My son's asked me like dad, what is going on there is is so dead like why is there so much blood?

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it's a lot, but it doesn't look it kind of

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know it kind of looked like it was it looked more like paint than blood

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know what they're it looked like I think it's paint

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know where the paint would have come from is my thing

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. I thought they have a lot of like

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_04]: CBS the rest of the nights of the week they have a lot of shows where it's like they're

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_04]: A murder like I wonder if you're trying to like pull over like and if you like investigating murders

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Wednesday on survivor

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_04]: You'll never believe the crime scene they discover covered in blood

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It's insane. I was like, oh my god, but now I'm can't wait till next week because I'm like what does sue get in

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh tevin the immunity challenge tonight was pretty intense

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_04]: It was intense the thing that I thought was interesting about it was that uh, jeff likes stop down a little bit

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Even before the challenge to ask the contestants about okay

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_04]: You watch this on tv

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_04]: But then you see it in real life and what's it like and how intimidating is it for you to participate in the challenge

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Can you give us a sense of?

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I really feel like that you know back when I was on the show

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like that we did not have challenges that were like as big of a build as something like this was

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_04]: So I can't even you know relate to what it's like to participate in a challenge like this

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Can you like give us like the mental picture of what that's like?

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh for sure like you you get there and you are immediately like it is intimidating

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so big and you're like oh my god, but then you also have the fear and the worry of like

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_01]: What is this going to look like am I going to do well? Am I going to compete?

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, is this going to be the end of my you know

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Journey because I don't do well or are we going to go to tribal?

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It's all this anxiety on top of it and I related to kashan because in episode. I think three

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_01]: We did um the challenge which is the same one where a hundred grabbed onto my legs and we went over that little the barrel

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that was that's documented proof of my first time ever

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Jumping again. I forgot you had that experience in the water and you almost drowned. Yes

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I almost drowned and so that was my first time ever jumping in water and swimming

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially the ocean ever period on earth ever documented proof of it

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I could relate to kashan when it's like I am not too good at this

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And I did swimmy lessons that tried to but there was a trauma that I was trying to get over

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And so when you have something like that in the water in the middle of the ocean high towers

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It is intimidating not only for the sheer fact that my dream could end if we don't do well

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But the fact of like I have to physically with no food by the way and no, you know

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't have sufficient energy do this big

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Hurdling challenge. It's crazy. Yeah, I just said like hey, and this isn't a swimming pool. This is the ocean

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_01]: it's not it's not there's currents and like, you know sharks and

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know roll a shark almost got room tonight

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_01]: No

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I I don't believe there was a shark in that water until I see it and if there was a shark wrong

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't you go get it if you that if you want to be roofered go get the shark. That's true. That's true

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, so they did the challenge. Uh, there was like a hero role in this challenge where uh, you have to pick somebody to go

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_04]: First and then everybody else was going to go in pairs

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought that they were setting Rome up for a pretty big fall in this episode because we saw it when we don't normally see so much

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Strategizing of the tribes before they do the challenge. We saw Rome

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Talk about like where Saul's like, okay, let me let me do this and Rome said

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_04]: No, I have to do it. I'm gonna be mad. I know I can do it

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'll be mad if if you don't let me do it

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_04]: So let me so let me do it. I'm like, all right. Oh here we go

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_04]: But in fairness to Rome, he did he did great like uh, there were no

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I was really expecting him to like fall on his face. He did he did great

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_04]: But no the way that he handled it

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_04]: That did not seem ideal

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I knew he was gonna I had no doubt in my mind that Rome was gonna do great

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I knew he was gonna do great

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But again, it is about how you communicate with people

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a social game at its core. You can say it's a physical game

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a this kind of game. It's that kind of game

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But at the beginning middle end of the day, it is a

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Social game and the way that you talk to people and the way that you navigate that social aspect

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Is your lifeline in the game? And if you don't do that well, you will be the one going home

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought that I had no doubt again that he was gonna do well

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But I just didn't like the way that he approached it with these people

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm gonna be so angry if you don't do it right because I would have done it right

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like home

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But again, the survivor gods are probably gonna spare him. I just don't understand

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean he got he got through it and ultimately

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_04]: That he ends up being on the tribe that goes to tribal council and it's really, uh, you know, Andy had

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Way more problems than he did but um that was shocking for me

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought Andy was gonna sail it and I was like come on Andy and then he was the one struggling

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, oh my goodness gracious. Yeah, it seemed like that the balance beam was

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Not that easy

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, and it's slippery and it's wet and and it just won

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Your jeff's like if your if your toenail hits the water, you got to go back

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So you have to do it right and like you have to get it

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, look it looks so easy when seri is able to you know, do it after a couple of tries, but no, it's tough

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen a couple of tries listen seri was seri was working hard to get across that boundary

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_01]: She got cross it she got cross it

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But I was sitting there like come on seri come on but it took her a good six seven love

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Took a minute took a minute that seems tough the balance beam like balance beam just on solid ground is tough

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to do it. I didn't get to do that and we did not have uh, uh balance a balance beam

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I also related to jenna beef. I feel like this whole episode was kind of calling out to me

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You know gashana his swimming and then jenna be looking under the bench

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That was almost verbatim the same challenge we did except at the end of hours hunter did the basketballs

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_01]: but um, I also looked under the bench um when I sat out of this

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Challenge jumping off those platforms. So um, you know good for her looking under the bench

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if one would have been there, but it was a good attempt to look look at least for jenna be she got on the show

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_04]: That's she found some screen time under the bench

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it a lot of people miss I saw that on twitter everyone was like where's jenna be we haven't really seen much

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That is fair. I guess we have not seen many

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Confessionals or anything where it's like what's going on? Maybe she's gonna bloom later

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, do you feel like is that

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_04]: For like first, you know not to get too much into the edit reading

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you feel like that okay for jenna be do you feel like that she's probably safe because we'll get to learn more about her later

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Or do you feel like that maybe that she doesn't have that much of a story to tell

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think I think that it could be a blooming later, but from what I understand

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_01]: From just looking, you know, especially during our season and what it feels like to me is that

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_01]: When if you are scunked in the way that she's scunked a lot of people would assume that that would

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Relate to the fact that you may not make it to where

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know too too far, but again, it could all be a bluff survivor. It's not dumb. They they watch the internet

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They know what people think so they might do that to blow your back

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You know to blow your mind

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Tevin I do feel like that they do really try especially in the new era to give everybody

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Something like I feel like that, you know back in the day, you know, there might be some

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's through the second person out. You don't really get too much on the show

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_04]: But I really do feel like that they try to like okay, we brought you out here

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, they are excited about all 18 people that they put on the show

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like that they want to you know be able to share the story that they have especially with the 90 minutes

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_04]: So like I was feeling personally great about Asia but now in hindsight

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like okay

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we maybe we got a lot about Asia's story because they knew that we weren't going to have her for

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_04]: That much time on the show. They were excited about having her on there

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And so maybe for Genevieve to be charitable uh that her story is yet to be told

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. I that that could very well be it

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You just you never really know what's going to happen because this is a game where it flips on its head on a dime for the players

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that survivor has it starting to master

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_01]: How to make survivor accessible at home to you to make you feel like you're in it

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think one of the ways that they try to do that is to make you feel like the game has flipped on you too

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You thought you knew what was going to happen, but oh here's what's actually going to happen

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So it might be all part of the all part of the play

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Tevin you said that you felt like that the show was speaking to you tonight a bunch of times

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_04]: What else did you see that you felt like really related to you?

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I think like I said Koshan with um Koshan with with that swimming thing spoke to me

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Genevieve

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Doing reaching under that bench spoke to me them going on that journey

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Just spoke to me. Um and that whole experience of that

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, can I

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Step down on the journey that you went on because I feel like that that was my favorite one from all of the journeys from the new era

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I really liked how they did that of that it was I just thought it was interesting

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_04]: That it was a game that required deception

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And trust and it seemed like that it meant something in terms of like the relationship that you and maria had

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I mean it really you know to use your words scunt jolinsky

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Um and that he ended up and maybe it was sort of like okay

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_04]: If you get the bad draw of the skull card, was that what he had the skull card?

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_04]: He did

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and so if you get the bad draw then maybe you're really in a bad spot

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_04]: But I just thought it was interesting to be forced to be put into this situation where

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_04]: You have to lie to people and you want to get off on the right foot on day

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever take two you don't want to necessarily make people feel like that that you can't trust you

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_04]: But you know that's I think that the thing that people maybe aren't don't expect in especially in the new era game

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And for better or for worse you get put into a situation like very early on where you have to you're back against the wall

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And you may be put in a very uncomfortable position where it is do or die very early on for you

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it and and and you kind of just have to figure out how to how to navigate that when when it happens

[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately put your lens key, you know it was die

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_01]: literally but

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It did you know allow me to have a little bit of

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It allowed me to kind of build a bit of an alliance

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_01]: In that moment and and to to work to get myself in a position

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Later on you know down the road so it worked out for me

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But that game was was was tough like you said when you have when you're built to already deceive somebody

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna go bad for somebody's got it rough somebody already just has the bed off the back

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to get into taking some questions here with tevin

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So fire away in the chat if you have questions about tonight's episode

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_04]: For our patrons a reminder that on friday, I will be live once again

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I will be taking our patron questions and we will be doing that

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I believe at 4 p.m. Coming up on friday as we do. I'm sorry, uh sam's telling me 3 p.m

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_04]: 3 p.m

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Episode three right, uh, 3 p.m. I'll be taking a patron question. No three three 30. Okay

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Three is our he says 330. Okay. Listen if you're on patreon, we'll send you the link. You'll know what time

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it'll be it'll be fine. Uh, I think we probably took about 30 callers on uh this past friday of

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Questions about episode two. So we've been having a lot of fun on fridays to get into everything from the episode. Okay

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_04]: all right

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Tevin let's jump into things

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_04]: um, all right

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Tevin what's what's going on on your end over here? I feel like we're we're moving the

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Figure out my my phone is is is

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Losing life and I'm trying to make sure that she lives to see another day. Okay. So

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_04]: All right now, is that how we're connected to you? Is our lifeline potentially in danger?

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's definitely in danger, but trust me it ain't never in danger for long. So even if she dies

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be back

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, good. Okay, but well see I think we've injected some of like the like dangerous fun

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Of the new era into the podcast of like Tevin could be gone at any second

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I very well could but like I said, I will be I'm on the edge of my seat

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I've been working with it for a while Rob, but I'm still being focused. I know you are I know you are

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. All right. So our christian five did get back to us

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_04]: He said that Tevin is exactly right on the odds about that

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_04]: After losing the first mandatory draw it's 50 50 on the second

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_04]: It uh, it's when it's before your first draw your odds of getting the advantage are 66 to 33

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_04]: If you're gonna draw twice. So okay, so if you go into it from the start

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: You have a 66 chance by playing

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_04]: But then it goes down to 50 50

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Once you draw a

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh once once you play once

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_04]: That's nice. I think it's I still think it's the I put your hand back in the bag. Come on

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I would have put my hand back in the bag personally as Jeff says now. That's how you do it on survivor

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what Rob? That was actually a very good deaf and present. Can you do it one more time? Now?

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_04]: That's how you do it on survivor

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_04]: You might need to be a deaf impersonator

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_04]: all right

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Lori b wants to know is Rome this season's queue

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_04]: See that we were having so much fun dangerous fun

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And then we lost Tevin and we'll find out if and when

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Tevin will be back. Okay, but

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_04]: We're doing fine. I'll take your questions as we go along here on a

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Wednesday night no problem. Okay. All right

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_04]: question from Gary

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_04]: If a tribe becomes the disaster tribe at this point, which tribe would it be?

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that we can necessarily get a disaster tribe at this point. I mean, we've had three episodes

[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean typically we go five votes before we get the merge to the worst case scenario would be

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_04]: A tribe drops the next two challenges. So

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it's likely uh that uh, you know, even if we got to

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_04]: What it would be five five and three

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it would necessarily be a total disaster unless somebody flames out. So

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Of the of the tribes though, uh, who's in the worst spot?

[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I certainly could see uh another scenario where we have

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_04]: LaVu ended up going back to tribal council now a couple times in a row

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Where the I think that the secret weapon that we haven't talked about too much is that

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_04]: It seems like that on gata

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Rachel is like the ultimate puzzle whiz to me

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like that she's been really really strong in the puzzles so far

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And so the puzzle is the equalizer and it feels like that red

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, why now while they did put together the big puzzle in the first challenge and they did it like very quickly

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_04]: They had such a big lead. I do wonder about, uh, you know red being able to do the puzzle

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Moving forward, okay

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_04]: all right

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_04]: How about

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think that jennive would have been more at risk of being voted out had she competed in the immunity challenge?

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not really sure why like I do feel like uh, just to go back to

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_04]: The the la vu vote like I really do feel like that there was a scenario where if

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_04]: If tini and kashan would have been on board

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that they could have sent jennive home uh tonight and for whatever reason and we just have not seen too much of the jennive relationship

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_04]: It seems like that there's a comfort level there with tini and kashan

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_04]: With jennive where if they wanted to pile the votes on to get jennive out

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I just think that they could have taken that shot. Here's tevin

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_04]: That's how you do it on survive. Now, that's how you do it on the podcast

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I told you I I made it plain. I made it clear. I said listen the phone might die

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_04]: But I figured it out. I got it. I'm glad we set it all up and explained it before it happened

[01:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it would have been very confusing, but that's how you do it. I adapted

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I let it happen and I didn't say that my life in the DC

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: How you ever both have to have some of my thunder whole hiding on the outside

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Your game is never over until jeff snuffs you towards so I had something that tore me down

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But I wasn't gone forever and I came back and now I'm back

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, people thought you were gonna be gone forever and then you came back incredible. Okay. All right

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, sydney johnson says plug for tevin's cameo. He sent one for my watch party this week

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was the best I've ever gotten so much fun. How deep in the cameo game are you tevin?

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm pretty deep like I I've I've been blessed to be able to do it and and that people want it is amazing that people

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Pay money

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, because something that you do is gonna brighten their daughter or their child or themselves

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Like something it's gonna brighten their day just to see you do I bet you do a great cameo

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I I love I do it. I I do I do they're not, you know, cumios. Um, maybe no

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you in the the leaderboard like I feel like that some of the survivors I feel like between like, uh, coach and q and

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_04]: carolin and tyson like I feel a johnny fair play like I feel like it's very competitive people are like

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Fighting for like the top rankings on cameo. Are you in that mix?

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They definitely are I'm not fighting for no no first place second place third. I'm fighting for the people

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let me be very clear. Yeah, and so I just when people order them I do them

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But I am on the leaderboard somewhere. I think I'm like

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: 24 or 23 or something like that. But um where I'm really doing good

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I have also have well, I just made it but um people have already ordered cummala Harris cameo

[01:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So I have that too. I made a whole new cameo for cummala impersonations

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_04]: So, um, now do you put on a wig? Do you put on like do you do like a like a costume?

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh rob. Oh, yes. I have a full beige suit. Let me be very clear about this. I have a full

[01:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Beige suit. I have a full. I don't keep it far. Kamala's never far. You see my american flag pin

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a full big

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Send this to john love it. Yeah

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I will I'm ready. I am ready more than you know

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Always do

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Kamala I put my little wig on like this rob. I shifted to the side like this flip it over. Okay. Oh, it looks a mess. This is terrible

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I have to fix it. Okay, but I put the wig on I have my thing on and I just let me be very clear

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we'll have to vote. Okay. We have a hard road ahead of us

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_00]: But we can get there if we just turn the page

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and move forward

[01:08:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Vice president Harris, uh, what do you think about Rome?

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, uh the city or the person the person the person

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_04]: The what do you think about the prospects of of Rome? Uh, potentially

[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh in in these next few weeks of the game

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let me be very clear. Okay

[01:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that um, you have to think about um, what has been and you can't be too burdened by what has been

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And so when you think about Rome

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You have to hope and you have to have dreams and aspirations that make you think that you can work

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and that you can maybe use them to your advantage, but you have to be careful

[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because there are people out there that will try to take your dream. So you have to just watch. Okay

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's great

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Have you done any other characters on cameo?

[01:09:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Not on cameo. No, I on tiktok. Sometimes I'll do some some other people

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But I just do Kamala and then I do

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Myself so that that's all I do

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But and for birth I go all out for a birthday if you get a birthday cameo for me

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I buy a cake. I get candles. I sing to you buy a cake

[01:09:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I do I buy a cake. I don't buy like a whole cake. Yeah, but I do buy like a slice of whatever kind of cake

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I've got Kevin you need to like you ever go to like one of those restaurants

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And they have like the the plastic dessert of like what they have and they bring it out like oh, we have this

[01:10:04] [SPEAKER_04]: We have this we have this

[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_04]: A reusable yeah, you need like the proc desserts

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: For the cameos I only give my people the best and so I use

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_01]: The money that I'm going to get from them anyway

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And I just use a little bit of it and I get them a cake and just make them feel special because they just want to feel

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: special

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: For for and just for you to say something to them. So to just go the extra mile just gives them like

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Everything they need Kevin speaking of food. Well, what do you think about the segment about sam all the different foods?

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_04]: That he's never tried before

[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_04]: He never had I believe he never had a watermelon

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_04]: It was such an interesting scene. He never had a pineapple

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't believe it. He's never had zucchini. He's never had eggplant. He's never had

[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't know what broccolini was. He didn't know what an heirloom tomato was now. I gotta be honest

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I know I I like I've had all those things

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know necessarily I if I know the difference between an heirloom tomato and a regular tomato

[01:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Come on Rob. Okay, let me say I I worked in a grocery store

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I do know the difference but the heirloom tomatoes are

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They're they're not like the regular tomatoes really round the heirloom tomatoes have like

[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: They look kind of I don't even know how to describe. I know when I see them. They look very bumpy on the top like like they are

[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: When you see them, you'll know it's an heirloom tomato. They're very different, but they're also

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Flatter so they're they're much flatter and in the top of them like have these little bumps going to the center of the of the tomato

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, all right. So there's a special heirloom tomato. I'll have to have to try one

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, go to your closest whole foods and get you a nice fresh heirloom tomato

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I bet you I bet you will you'll change it'll change your life and say thank you

[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. Okay, people say it looks like mini pumpkins

[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. They look like mini pumpkins. They're flatter and they have those little those little pumpkin ridges on the top

[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Those little yeah, yeah, okay

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe we can have a like a have all like all the vegetables lined up for the harvest at the live show in a couple of weeks

[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we really should do and I want to watch him go down a cornucopia

[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And eat them all I want him to try them

[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_04]: That'll be the merch feast all vegetables

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Listen, yeah, I know about a merge feast. Yeah, no, it's happened. How many of those foods could liz eat

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You see how he had bombard

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Could any of them? Um heirloom tomato

[01:12:37] [SPEAKER_04]: From apple

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't know if Liz could have had an heirloom tomato. I think she might be allergic to tomato

[01:12:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, maybe she could have she might could have had the

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Rockalini. I don't think so. Yeah

[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: We literally when we won that basket of fruit or that

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, we had so much food. We gave Liz was this all she could have was the apples

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we had so much food and she was like, I guess I'll just eat the apples

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you guys have so much food and I didn't feel really bad, but all she could have was the apples

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you can't have nothing

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: All this food and you it's so

[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Crazy, it's so crazy that that is the existence that she finds herself in and I couldn't imagine

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, um, let's take some more questions and okay, um, how about

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Question from Steven did hunter build you that

[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Tempurpedic bed

[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Kyle said he could he could have built a tempura pedic

[01:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I heard that I like that. I liked that comment. I was like, listen, Kyle make me a tempura pedic

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I specifically asked Hannah make me a tempura pedic

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And he did not make me a tempura pedic instead. He kept his sealy pasta pedic mattress

[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: He built and he slept on it every night and he didn't let nobody else sleep on it

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, what did you do? He made a like a mattress out of vines

[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It was unbelievable. So he made the structure with the bamboo

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He then used the the fish gear that we I was making a crab trap out of it

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But then we ended up being like a coconut holder because I don't know what happened with that

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But he used these thin I guess shavings of bamboo and use those as like the slacks

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he weaved vines through those slacks and like it was

[01:14:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Unbelievable that he did that. It was unbelievable. Yeah

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think they say that oh you could split the bamboo. Is that possible?

[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_01]: To uh, you mean like just split bamboo straight down straight down. Yeah

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you could split it straight down

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I wanted to do with the roof because my but we didn't have if we had two machetes

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter and I could have done it

[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But we didn't have enough time in a day to worry about, you know

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Slaveing ourselves to make it

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But I wanted to split the bamboo down the middle and then make an entire row of bamboo facing like bottom up like this

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And then go back and then put the top bamboo in the the creases of that so that the water

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It would be completely rainproof because it would just it would cover all the holes

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I wanted to do

[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But we ended up using the palm tree leaves because it was quicker. Okay. All right, lori

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Has a question. Is Rome this season's cue is Rome gonna have a Rome skirt coming soon?

[01:15:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, you know, forgive me right after I've been to this because cue is not cue is not going to come after me

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: By saying that I said that Rome was about to take his business away. I don't know

[01:15:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know but I you said though that you would wear you would wear a cue skirt

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I would wear a cue skirt and in fact in fact ask cue where that name came from because I told him called him

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Cue skirt. So I'm still waiting on my 25 of all cue skirt merchandise profit

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I think Rome needs to go for the Rome hat. I think that he needs to leave the skirts alone that Rome. Yes is pretty wild

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but he definitely has the erraticness of cue. I think cue is is different than Rome for sure

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But he does have that like I'm just here to play. I don't give a day

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_04]: The Rome hat is pretty wild though. It's kind of like it's giving like Paddington bear

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Rob. Yes, yes

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_04]: We get a side by side

[01:16:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Rob if you if Paddington pulls up on the screen

[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not I'm not gonna take it

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not doing this on here Rob. I'm gonna put my I'm about to put my shades on. I'm not involved

[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_01]: See, this is Rob. I'm not involved. I didn't say it Rob did it. I'm not involved

[01:16:34] [SPEAKER_04]: okay

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Angela has a question

[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Would Asia have done better if she didn't go on the journey, you know going back to the first episode a lot of people

[01:16:43] [SPEAKER_04]: You know the rhap fans felt like okay. This was a mistake a big mistake

[01:16:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Asia should not have gone on the journey, but it seemed like that teeny saved a spot for her

[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_04]: But was that the little bit of an opening that

[01:16:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Rome needed to be able to build that alliance was that

[01:17:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Actually like were the seeds of this planted back in the first episode

[01:17:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I think so

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I definitely think so because again and but that was a little bit earlier

[01:17:11] [SPEAKER_04]: So that kind of goes against what I was saying earlier, but she did I feel like work her way back where it's you know

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_04]: That she was leading the charge of people who were like

[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Looking for a Rome call him mr. Gamer. Hey, what are you up to? They saw him like going ahead first into the well

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know honestly, I think um someone has said this I was listening to something and they were like

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, this kind of stuff stuff changed. It might have been your podcast last week

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you and Austin were talking about it and um, I think that one of you it says something like

[01:17:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Do do decisions get changed like in this in a second like that?

[01:17:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Like do you switch your votes and you know that swiftly and I think that

[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_01]: For me what it when it felt like a change at least from the edit is that when she

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_01]: began speaking

[01:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: At tribal council it felt like that could have been a moment that so I think the seeds could have been planted

[01:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: In that you know journey, but I think when she was at that that tribal council and you know

[01:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: She kept speaking and saying certain things and then making eyes of saw I think teeny got a little spooked

[01:18:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that everyone kind of got crazy and I wonder how many people

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Change their votes. Maybe they weren't going to do that and then they switch back to it

[01:18:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I have no way of knowing unless they expound next week

[01:18:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But it does feel like there was a couple things that she did this episode

[01:18:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That may have switched people's

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You know cut their switch on have been like I don't know if Asia if I can keep her around anymore

[01:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean teeny said as much especially with the jennadine

[01:18:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Her not wanting to feel like that teeny and kashan were turned off when uh, that

[01:18:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Asia did not want to go ahead and vote out Saul

[01:18:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm just of two minds about it because I feel like yeah, like you know, sander ds twine will tell you

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, you know just anybody but me fine

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Just get me get me to the next tribal council and and yes, sander is a two-time winner

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_04]: But I just I don't know if that's a winning game to go ahead and

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Be in that situation we talked about how like bleak things look potentially for sol at the next tribal council

[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean that

[01:19:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Aren't you better off to try to go for the move that could potentially get you to the end as opposed to

[01:19:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Just you know go ahead and be at the bottom and potentially get picked off next

[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it

[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You you you have to do something to change your circumstances and your circumstances may not change for tomorrow

[01:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But they may change for down the road

[01:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And so you both have to be thinking about how do I get to tomorrow?

[01:19:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But also how do I get to next week?

[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So you have to you have to manage both of those things and and uh to speak about the survivor gods and what they've been doing

[01:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: For these people

[01:19:43] [SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing to me that rom is not thinking about the danger of teeny

[01:19:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Because if it was me, I would still be thinking about the fact that teeny took kashan over there and showed him my

[01:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I hope without my permission

[01:19:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's funny that he is now working with teeny and wants to get asia or sol out

[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But the person who actually blew your cover in the beginning has been teeny. Yeah

[01:20:03] [SPEAKER_04]: He's all in on this four-person alliance that he has

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: All right listen if it works better than the six

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_01]: God's speed to you

[01:20:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay by the way. All right. So all right. I mean you tell me now taven

[01:20:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god

[01:20:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Rob, yeah

[01:20:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, now you see now you see when the people like you

[01:20:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Is the same hat?

[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, I'm sweating bullets when these people like you up in these comments. I just want them to know

[01:21:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Now

[01:21:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Tevin we had you had a great moment in survivor 46 when you talked about how you wanted to go clean the fish

[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_04]: For the tribe. Did that did that bring you back when rom had to clean his own fish tonight?

[01:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh god, absolutely not

[01:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I would have never in the history of ever

[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_02]: went to go catch beta fish and bought them back and then ate

[01:21:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Two of them myself and then spit the remnant on the back of one of my age was like

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_02]: That on my back

[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna get out about um like

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't think he tried to spit it on her back

[01:21:46] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think that he was just like uh try like eating them in such a messy way that he

[01:21:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Got that he like splattered on onto her. I don't think it was intentional

[01:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: He was just trying to be messy and it ended up, you know getting a little bit, you know carried away

[01:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: but yeah, I feel like

[01:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: He had I

[01:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Mindsets of it. I was at one side of my body

[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like period because y'all ain't doing nothing to get these fish y'all

[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I gotta do the fire and I gotta cook and I gotta clean and I gotta make the beds and all this stuff

[01:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And you still want me to give you food? I'm eating too. I get it

[01:22:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time

[01:22:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Rome you cannot go catch these fish and then eat two and leave these people hungry, right?

[01:22:25] [SPEAKER_04]: It like I will say uh that you know, we had like kind of a parallel situation at gata

[01:22:33] [SPEAKER_04]: In last week's episode where it's like, okay, baby andy. We don't want him

[01:22:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, uh, we know that he he's he's the person who's like we're gonna when he's gonna open a coconut

[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_04]: We're all gonna pretend and and this group couldn't bring themselves to be like, oh my like, uh, rome. You did it

[01:22:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Congratulations, you know, uh, you know on on survivor. You gotta you gotta fake it

[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You you definitely do you definitely have to fake it and I think

[01:22:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that rome doesn't care

[01:23:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Rome is no Rome is playing a character too though. He's trying to even though salt kind of clocked him. It was like

[01:23:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're lying, but um, I you definitely do have to fake it

[01:23:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But what I will say is that I did it didn't bring me back to the same realization of like oh rome providing fish

[01:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That's

[01:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But

[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah the the provider he is doing it though. He is

[01:23:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Providing them stuff. I wonder why they aren't getting a lot of on not we had a lot of crabs

[01:23:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Even though they didn't show it we had tons of crabs on nami beach

[01:23:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so hunter and I went crabbing every day and we ate well off those crabs and we had like

[01:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: 16 in one day and you guys

[01:23:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Kept lis fed and then it was when you and hunter were gone. That's where lizz really had the most problems

[01:23:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. And I think hunter told her that I'm pretty sure he said that he told he was like

[01:23:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Liz you just voted off the one person that was making sure that you ate because we made sure

[01:23:53] [SPEAKER_01]: We were like listen we caught 16 crabs. Let's go and give 10 of them to lizz not that big

[01:23:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean dramatic, but we gave we gave lizz more than a fair

[01:24:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you know what we were getting just to make sure because she wasn't eating the coconut and stuff like us so

[01:24:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, she got pissed after I left. I said well

[01:24:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Sister girl. That's just that's how the game go

[01:24:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, we have a question for you taven from omer is in the chat

[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_04]: He says hey oma is the survivor 47 cast more or less unhinged than the survivor 46 cast

[01:24:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that this cast is less unhinged

[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But if they're more unhinged, they know how to they know how to weave it well

[01:24:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So you don't you can't really tell you look at 46 and you're like

[01:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: These people are like like I don't know how to even made it onto the beach because everybody is everywhere

[01:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I think rom is probably the most like, you know spasm type of character, but I don't think 47 is that unhinged at all

[01:24:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But 46

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[01:24:55] [SPEAKER_01]: That's unhinged

[01:24:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, okay

[01:24:59] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[01:24:59] [SPEAKER_04]: How about

[01:25:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Paolo says uh, what do you thoughts on caroline passing the idol to her tribe mates?

[01:25:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Is this a course correction from venus and soda?

[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh god, I saw I was wondering what she was doing because it is like she was like

[01:25:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Sifting it and I was like, what is she doing and then I saw tiana had it and I was like, okay

[01:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So she just kind of I think it's course correction. I'm sure but I think it's also just I think

[01:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Everything that you do in the game of survivor is a pro and everything is a con and so

[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a pro, you know, it feels good. You have the idol

[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But someone could easily turn that around you and go up you're holding the idol

[01:25:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You know would and that becoming a problem or or them looking at you like I don't know anything could be an issue

[01:25:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So just hand it off show sportsmanship swing it around the tribe. Everybody got to hold it

[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not arguing about it and just keep it cute. So I think that's that's all her

[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that was all she did it for. What do you think about spicy Jeff?

[01:25:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Threatening to get his knife out last week

[01:26:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I wish Jeff would have said that to me when I was out there. I'd be like Jeff you might have I keep a blade to Jeff

[01:26:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So we got him a sheddy back at the house

[01:26:08] [SPEAKER_01]: so listen if we can go but

[01:26:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I like I like when Jeff gets I miss the Jeff

[01:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: from you know back in the day when he would just say

[01:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Anything and like I do miss that Jeff. So I was reminiscing about that, but I was like if Jeff would say that to me we

[01:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Jeff listen

[01:26:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We got nine two

[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow

[01:26:32] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah spicy Jeff

[01:26:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Is is here and uh, you know is ready. I think that you you all really helped get it out

[01:26:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I know he probably took the knife out and survived for 45, but I think that 46 really

[01:26:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Helped seal spicy Jeff being back

[01:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think so. I think we we we pushed Jeff to his his spicy limit and I think that he

[01:26:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's comfortable in his skin now, you know very Beyonce about the situation. He's very cozy

[01:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I think so. Okay, uh ken asks

[01:27:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Tevin are you a Whitney Houston fan? I see you have her first album in the background. Yeah ken. Where have you been?

[01:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Ken you must not know me that well at all because if you ever ask anybody else on earth if they Whitney Houston's biggest fan

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They're lying it's me you've met him. Congratulations. I have every single one of Whitney Houston's albums. It's all over there

[01:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a shrine. I have rcds. I talked to

[01:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: The I went to go see her grave in New York in New Jersey

[01:27:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And I when I went I took me like nine hours to get there and I finally got there the security guard

[01:27:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Was like you can't see her grave and I was like listen, I'm her biggest fan

[01:27:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I got to see it

[01:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like you have to have family permission because no one can see her grave because the family stopped it

[01:27:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to have family permission. I was like

[01:27:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Type type type type type

[01:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And now I have family permission to go see Whitney Houston's grave when I want to given to me by the owner of her estate pat

[01:27:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Houston so when I say wow, I'm Whitney Houston's biggest fan. I'm in there

[01:27:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's the security guard trying to keep me from seeing Whitney Houston's grave. I'm like ma'am the body guard

[01:28:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't know me at all the body guard tried to keep me out

[01:28:06] [SPEAKER_01]: She was like unique and she said it so nasally like I would never ever be able to she's like you have to have family

[01:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Permission I said hold one moment. Yeah type type type type type and now we do it. Okay now

[01:28:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Tevin, how did you get in with the houston family estate?

[01:28:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was because I when that security guard told me you will not be saying Whitney Houston grave today or ever

[01:28:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I said, okay. I got on my phone. I went on the instagram. I found pat houston. I sent her a long

[01:28:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Message detailing my entire trajectory with Whitney Houston how she started me as an actor

[01:28:41] [SPEAKER_01]: How my first song I was singing church was Whitney Houston how I could go on youtube pull up any video any you could go on

[01:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: YouTube pull up any live video of Whitney Houston singing anywhere play three seconds of it and stop it

[01:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you where she is what year it is with color dress

[01:28:55] [SPEAKER_01]: She got on the rendition of the song everything in those three seconds

[01:28:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So I listed all that to her she responded to me and we've been kind of corresponding ever since so I took a risk

[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And it worked out for me like Rome and that's how you do it on survivor

[01:29:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That part right there. So yes, this is Whitney Houston. Um, and yes, I am her biggest fan and yes

[01:29:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I am a fan so um if you don't know anything else about me. Yes me and Whitney go back like slimmish that

[01:29:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, uh step says if Tevin was on the season, which of the three tribes would you want to be on?

[01:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That is a great question

[01:29:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, um, I think I probably want to be

[01:29:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to be a Rome

[01:29:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not good with I'd know I think I would probably want to be with

[01:29:53] [SPEAKER_01]: She's not winterpixel of course. I'm gonna say this tiana. What's your privacy? Tuku

[01:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Tuku I think I'd want to be with tuku. I just think that I could get in with tuku

[01:30:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, could you be quiet while sue is sleeping?

[01:30:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen

[01:30:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Me and sue I get along with older people. So me and sue would have taken a good little nap together

[01:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't have made no noise. I've been like sue listen. Whatever you want me to send you a lullaby sue

[01:30:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll make sure you sleep well

[01:30:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[01:30:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I would make sure that sue got all the rest she needed I might would have tried to get a tempopete built for

[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Just because I'm that nice

[01:30:26] [SPEAKER_04]: She I think was fine on the beach. She just needed people to stop talking

[01:30:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what I would have done in that moment

[01:30:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I would have but but she was trying to use it to put a target on him

[01:30:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I would have just got up and moved to another spot if I really needed to sleep

[01:30:38] [SPEAKER_01]: This is there's a whole beach out here. Get on up and go

[01:30:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I would have did because I'm not arguing out here. I'm just not gonna do it

[01:30:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and then tevin last week we saw rachel trying to steal the rice put it in her pocket

[01:30:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you feel like that rachel should have been able to take the rice home? Yeah

[01:30:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, at no point

[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Was there any

[01:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: speaking out loud of

[01:31:01] [SPEAKER_01]: If you take you are not allowed to take rice from this challenge had jeff said you can't take rice

[01:31:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I would have been like, okay

[01:31:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You broke the rules where you told you tried to be slick you got caught

[01:31:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But because jeff didn't say you can't take the rice from the bag

[01:31:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like

[01:31:14] [SPEAKER_01]: She should have been able to take that rice and just go back to camp and I would have loved to see

[01:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: How that would have played out for her game and her tribe when she got back home

[01:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Which she had kept it for herself

[01:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Would she have used it for them?

[01:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Which you have you know, how would that have played into the game?

[01:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But now we'll never know because spicy jeff was like hey rachel. Did you put some rice in your back pocket?

[01:31:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean it was a like a handful of rice. I mean what is that going to be like two bites for everybody?

[01:31:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know rice swells up. You you might could have gotten you might could have stretched it out

[01:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Rice does swell

[01:31:47] [SPEAKER_01]: What I thought was interesting about this episode also rob is that they showed the huddle and their strategy talk

[01:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't recall the last time that they've shown actual strategy talk that in depth

[01:31:58] [SPEAKER_01]: In a huddle they didn't show it for us certainly. Well, that's why I really thought that something was going to come out of it

[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It really uh, didn't amount to anything that you know, we saw we really just saw some of the conflict with rome

[01:32:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that they really did a good job of like painting like how difficult of a situation it was for the people

[01:32:15] [SPEAKER_04]: in this tribe to navigate rome

[01:32:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, what what do you do when the person you want to vote out happens to have all the advantages

[01:32:26] [SPEAKER_04]: We haven't really seen that situation in

[01:32:29] [SPEAKER_04]: any of these new era seasons where the the person who's the target

[01:32:34] [SPEAKER_04]: It makes it known they have all the advantages

[01:32:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and and and the other pre-merge

[01:32:40] [SPEAKER_01]: With in the pre-merge at that and so that that's even more than rome has to

[01:32:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Navigate as he gets closer to the marriage

[01:32:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But the other thing is the pot calling the kettle black of him talking about

[01:32:50] [SPEAKER_01]: How egotistical and cocky and arrogant and showing that excitement to the ally of the person gone home

[01:32:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And you sir are becoming have already been but certainly becoming the thing that you're talking about so

[01:33:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't blink twice because you might be the next one, you know, they say tevin and I'm no, you know, um

[01:33:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Psychologists but sometimes like that the things that we don't like about other people happen to be the things that maybe we don't like about ourselves

[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, and for rome that's such an issue

[01:33:22] [SPEAKER_04]: with tk

[01:33:24] [SPEAKER_04]: being egotistical

[01:33:28] [SPEAKER_04]: That was a little bit of a

[01:33:30] [SPEAKER_04]: projection

[01:33:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not a preacher you could that was a word

[01:33:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That was a word

[01:33:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You might be a preacher that's it because he's surely called tk all the things that he literally is

[01:33:43] [SPEAKER_01]: exhibiting right now

[01:33:46] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how that works out for him, but I don't know. Yeah, okay

[01:33:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, tevin this was so fun to have you here. I hope we can do this again

[01:33:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I've read it anytime you want me to come back

[01:33:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm always ready to talk about survivor and it's so fun to be on this side of the table now and to know

[01:34:05] [SPEAKER_01]: How the game works not just speculating based on a hunch like I played it and I know what it takes and so I come with a different

[01:34:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Set of experience and understanding of the game. So this is so

[01:34:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Much fun to talk about now. Yes, and the word on the street is that uh, I'm going to see you in person in a couple of weeks

[01:34:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You sure will I certainly will be for all the fans out there. I certainly will be in new york

[01:34:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's no no need to be a rumor any longer. I will be in new york at the robber's podcast event sharp dress to the nine

[01:34:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay. Wait. Do you have an outfit picked out already or are you going to be coming as uh

[01:34:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Kamala

[01:34:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen Kamala goes wherever everywhere. I go just in case because you never know when you might need to be

[01:34:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Presidential, but um my outfit is certainly already picked out

[01:34:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, all right. Well, uh, if you want to be there

[01:34:55] [SPEAKER_04]: In the building with us, uh, what live show two weeks from tonight

[01:34:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Some tickets are left. Uh, robbins website.com slash nyc

[01:35:04] [SPEAKER_04]: 47 for that if you want to be there

[01:35:07] [SPEAKER_04]: That's going to be uh two weeks from tonight coming up on the night of

[01:35:11] [SPEAKER_04]: October 16th, and then we also have tuesday night a very special uh patron event

[01:35:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Meetup coming up on the night before on the 15th. So check that out more details to come on patreon

[01:35:25] [SPEAKER_04]: All right over on our we know survivor podcast feed

[01:35:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course tomorrow, uh, we'll have our exit interview with asia followed by my conversation with steven fishback

[01:35:36] [SPEAKER_04]: That's going to be at 3 p.m. Plus everything else in our survivor podcast feed including

[01:35:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh tevin that this fall it's been the 10 year anniversary of survivor san wan del sir

[01:35:49] [SPEAKER_04]: In fact, uh, yeah that just

[01:35:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yesterday with the 10 year anniversary of the episode two of survivor san wan del sir with the first ever

[01:36:01] [SPEAKER_04]: survivor live show in person

[01:36:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Steven and i and that happened to be 10 years ago on tuesday josh wiggler and i have been

[01:36:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Going back and doing a little bit of a 10 years later

[01:36:11] [SPEAKER_04]: rewatch of survivor san wan del sir. So, uh, that's been a lot of fun

[01:36:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that's crazy time does fly when you're having fun

[01:36:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, remind me. Tell me what what's your uh survivor backstory? Were you watching in the real time or were you wanted a

[01:36:27] [SPEAKER_04]: covid baby

[01:36:28] [SPEAKER_01]: No, i'm definitely not a covid baby

[01:36:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been watching with my aunt gogo um who got me into the show when I was very very young and i've been watching ever

[01:36:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Since then i don't know when my first season was i can't even remember

[01:36:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But i've certainly watched all of them and i've been doing it for for years and in fact

[01:36:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Her and i sit in the same spots. I'm not there tonight, but um, we sit in the same spots

[01:36:46] [SPEAKER_01]: We sat in since circle 2000 blah blah blah and um watch the show. I applied in that spot

[01:36:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I did everything in that spot. So wow i've been here for a while. Okay, uh you and aunt gogo

[01:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Aunt gogo, that's her she got me on it. I did not know what it was and I would always tell my theater teacher to

[01:37:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I said listen, I know we got rehearsal tonight

[01:37:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But wednesday is my survivor night. So we got rehearsal till 10

[01:37:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna be gone in 745 because I need to be home to watch the survivor at eight

[01:37:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So they all know they knew from an early age. I got something to do. I mean jeff probes got a date tonight. So

[01:37:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, now tevin, uh, have you checked out the summit?

[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_01]: No, but I have heard about it and the people are tearing it up. They are saying it is wonderful

[01:37:32] [SPEAKER_04]: It is good and I can't wait. Yeah, they reared the summit premiere

[01:37:37] [SPEAKER_04]: They had a sneak peek on sunday night and then they reared the same episode tonight. So if you happen to

[01:37:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Catch it wednesday night. I did a little review slash episode one recap with taren armstrong and chappelle

[01:37:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Is the summit any good? We kind of thought it was

[01:37:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Better than we expected. I think has been the consensus and taren and chappell are gonna keep going with recaps all season long

[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_04]: So find out what we had to say about it and can you do an impression of the host of the summit?

[01:38:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, let me let me hear what let me hear what he sounds like and then I will definitely get back

[01:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll do anybody. Yeah, okay

[01:38:17] [SPEAKER_04]: He said that uh, taren does a pretty good one. He's like

[01:38:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to the summit

[01:38:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, if it's deep and low like that very deep in low eighties

[01:38:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I oh, I could do that. Yeah, that's that's easy. Okay

[01:38:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Now that's how you do it on the summit

[01:38:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh god

[01:38:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Love is blind. Hey, uh, look if you miss asia good news

[01:38:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I know where you can find her check out coverage of love is blind in our

[01:38:49] [SPEAKER_04]: perfect match podcast feed

[01:38:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh asia and mary are talking about uh a new season of love is blind season seven

[01:38:58] [SPEAKER_04]: You do you watch the love is blind?

[01:39:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I have seen maybe a total of

[01:39:04] [SPEAKER_04]: A third of an episode. Yeah, it's exciting jason jason read too on love is blind coverage for season several

[01:39:13] [SPEAKER_01]: See these gelinsky references he will never he will never he will never die

[01:39:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He'll never die every time somebody says several I think about him. He has he's done it. He's he's really done it

[01:39:23] [SPEAKER_04]: He really did it. Yeah

[01:39:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Unbelievable. Okay, and then also, uh, of course, uh

[01:39:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Get involved with everything else we have going on over here at robins podcast

[01:39:35] [SPEAKER_04]: On patreon be part of our patreon survivor q&a

[01:39:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Be with us for our patreon meetup as well for the live show in new york. That's at robins website.com slash patreon

[01:39:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Tevin, okay, we know

[01:39:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Check out tevin on cameo kevin's tevin's gonna make a big deal about everything going on on

[01:39:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Cameo

[01:39:57] [SPEAKER_04]: birthdays

[01:39:59] [SPEAKER_04]: impressions

[01:40:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Any sort of other celebrations

[01:40:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Louis roast people like you

[01:40:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I roast the people I just broke this up on a couple days. So, uh, you know, someone hired me

[01:40:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They want to be and you could find all that in my link three

[01:40:25] [SPEAKER_01]: In my bio of all my

[01:40:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Tevin.m

[01:40:32] [SPEAKER_04]: God, David. He's all day. I think it's all there. Okay. Well, Tevin, thank you so much

[01:40:37] [SPEAKER_04]: This was such a delight tonight. I had so much fun and can't wait to do it again and looking forward to getting to meet you in person

[01:40:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for the first time, we're gonna have a good night. Go bring your bring your best. I think we will

[01:40:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Not out here. Okay. I'll do what I can. I think I could use some help on uh, I do not have a technology

[01:40:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh god, Rob, you're so behind the curtain

[01:41:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I could I could use the help. Okay

[01:41:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I got I got all right. Thank you so much. Tevin. Thank you so much for listening. We appreciate uh hearing

[01:41:10] [SPEAKER_04]: What you have to say in the comments too. Take care everybody. Have a good one. Bye