The Survivor 47 Draft crew is back to check in on how their players are doing! Chappell, Pooya, Shannon, and Taran gather to discuss whose team is thriving and whose team is barely surviving.[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Badewanne, Podcast und Herbst? Das wird nur getoppt von Alturs Reisen und Günstig.
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[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Hey, what's up everybody?
[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_06]: It's Chappelle and I'm here with a panel of people who have a lot of explaining to do.
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to talk about the Survivor 47 draft.
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_06]: This is our mid-season check-in and so much has gone on that we had to get as many people of the panel that we could back together to really talk about what's been going on in our draft.
[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Because some people have a lot of noise to talk and some people might just be getting booted off the draft forever.
[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_06]: With me starting just right here to my left, Shannon.
[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Shannon, welcome back.
[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Hello.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Hi, Shannon.
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Hi.
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Are you?
[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_06]: You're happy to be back here to talk about the draft.
[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sure this was your idea.
[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, yes, because people like the draft.
[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_09]: I like the draft.
[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I made the, I mean, it came up with the idea last season.
[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_09]: And then this season it was risky because I've only had Rachel since week four.
[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_09]: And if she didn't make it here, I probably was going to call in sick.
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_09]: But with Rachel flying, I was more psyched than ever to be here.
[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_09]: So, yeah, it's gone.
[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_09]: It's gone pretty well right now.
[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I too am very surprised that you're here.
[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Someone I'm less surprised as you see here.
[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Puyo.
[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Puyo.
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Welcome back.
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's great to be back.
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It's always fun to talk draft, whether or not we have players remaining or one remaining,
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, on an island.
[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's still a good time to reconnect with everybody until all of you get way too cocky.
[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And we don't want to talk to each other again for a little bit.
[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_02]: But for now I'm happy.
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, speaking of cocky, I'll go ahead and get in front of this before everybody else does.
[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Somehow this man has managed to keep three people in his draft team for the second time in a row.
[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Big Brother and now here on Survivor.
[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_06]: We're heading into the homestretch and Mr. Robot himself has not lost one player.
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Taren, how do you do it, man?
[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, I was reminded by my chat the other day that it also happened on Big Brother Canada this year.
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_06]: All right. Now, look, no, that's not canon. OK, we don't talk about it.
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_11]: I agree. Big Brother Canada is not really canon. We don't count on that.
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_11]: It doesn't exist. I'm sorry.
[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Listen, you know, I just I just had this thought and I know nobody's really talked about this before, but I was thinking about it.
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_11]: I was looking into like what would be like your average draft placement, you know?
[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_11]: And so I started thinking about like how cool would it be if I had like a good average draft placement now that I've thought about this for the first time ever.
[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_11]: And so I've just been working on that. And you know what? It's been working out pretty well.
[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Hey, that's fine for me because I still I'm sure I have by far the best average draft placement in this Survivor draft.
[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes. Even though my first two picks didn't go super, super well this season.
[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_09]: What is your current average placement this season?
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, this season. I mean, overall, I don't know what that's OK, but that's before anybody was really thinking about it.
[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_11]: I think from my I think people were thinking about it.
[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_11]: I think I don't remember ever hearing about it. That's weird.
[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_09]: How come when Taryn says his chat reminds him no one bats an eye?
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_09]: But when I say the people want this for me, everyone's like, who are the people?
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_09]: I have people.
[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, we know his chat exists. You know, like if he had people, we could click it and go like see.
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_06]: But I just could you just like add them at your people? I just want to see.
[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_09]: People at you. The people at Chappelle about.
[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, please do that. Please don't embarrass me.
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_09]: But I'm sure there are people there.
[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_06]: They're there. I'm sure there's a lot of there there, as Mike Bloom would say.
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_06]: But you know who is not here? Rob Sesternino.
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And so Sam, could you pull up the graphic for me?
[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Because Rob kicked off our draft this time.
[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_06]: And let's just talk about him. OK, I got a lot to say.
[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I got a lot to say as well for number one.
[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_02]: So I haven't checked out Club Condo yet, Chappelle.
[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I always do. It's a good time.
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But I believe what I heard is Rob claimed he was not invited to this to this soiree here.
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. Why would we invite him?
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_09]: He doesn't have anyone in the game.
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_06]: He said that's a good point.
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_06]: We shunned him like, no, I was told not to come.
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Is he not in the group chat?
[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_06]: He very much is.
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He very much is.
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He very much is.
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_09]: What do you mean?
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_09]: It's a really good way to learn that Rob's not reading the group chat.
[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_09]: That's how I found out my dad wasn't reading our family group chat.
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_09]: It kind of feels like that.
[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_09]: It actually feels exactly the same way.
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_09]: That happened to me.
[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, there's important information there.
[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_02]: That happened to me this week where I was like, Liana, let me show you a TikTok.
[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And then she's like, I sent that to the family chat.
[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, when?
[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like three days ago.
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, good for you.
[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I just saw it now.
[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But no, here's the thing.
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: The reason I'm going to give Rob some guff here is because Rob had a lot of cockiness
[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_02]: to hold coming in as the champion after winning the draft last season.
[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Champion.
[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't do that right.
[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It came in second, but whatever.
[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Only to then give us all that grief, pick and then make everyone look a fool and give presentations
[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_02]: to pick Asia himself only to then grenade himself out of the draft.
[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And by the time the jury begins, be the first out clean and then not show up here.
[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, we had the relegation clause and I don't know.
[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I don't know how it's looking.
[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_09]: Drafting again.
[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Back.
[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_09]: So that might look, he should have definitely just left it at like the best possible scenario
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_09]: last season.
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_09]: We had the best average draft placement and he won.
[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_09]: He won by every distinguishable metric other than actually having the winner of the season.
[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_09]: So that went excellently.
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_09]: And then this was like the opposite of that.
[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Why did we blow past the fact that the chat right now is saying they're my people?
[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't see it.
[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_09]: I can put that on the screen.
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_09]: It was there.
[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't see it.
[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Nope.
[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Nope.
[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_09]: No.
[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_02]: We need to find is what I'm saying.
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Don't cherry pick the one comment that says they're the people.
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_09]: I saw it.
[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm looking at the chat.
[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_08]: No, I am actually looking at it.
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_08]: I am struggling.
[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_08]: What are you talking about?
[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm sorry.
[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm the people.
[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_09]: I am Shannon's people.
[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_09]: There are people.
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm the people.
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Tell yourself.
[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_06]: That's one Shannon.
[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_09]: There were four different people who said that in a row.
[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Then someone said Shannon.
[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, okay.
[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_06]: That says Shannon Gates, parentheses Gus.
[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, fine.
[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_06]: If that's what you want to say at Shannon Gates, you know, but, but, okay.
[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Let me start with Rob because since he didn't want to come.
[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to point out that by the time we ended our draft, he was shaming me for my picks.
[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_06]: He was like, I thought Chappelle had a good draft until.
[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, like.
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_06]: What?
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm being a French.
[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Like what?
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Bro, I begged.
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I begged and pleaded for him to let me have Asia on my team.
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And he just had to like sit there all smudging.
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, Asia literally asked for me to pick her and he still denied it.
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And so this is his karma.
[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_06]: This is Asia's karma.
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, in hindsight.
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Wow.
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_11]: What a, what a, what a play by Asia.
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_12]: Yes.
[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_09]: She's like, well, you can't say we're spoiled.
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_09]: That's I think really important.
[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_09]: I think we really proved something.
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_02]: What I think I learned with that is Asia loves us.
[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Asia was looking out for it for us, you know, shout out Asia.
[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_08]: What about me?
[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_09]: She specifically didn't want me to pick her.
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_06]: She loves me the most.
[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_06]: She tried to save you.
[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, she did.
[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_06]: She was like, please give Shannon the shot.
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, and look, Rob took the bait.
[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_06]: He, uh, picked Asia for his first pick.
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, here at the RJP family, we love some Asia.
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, Pooja.
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Talk to me.
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_06]: What went wrong?
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, why is Asia not our winner here on this RJP draft?
[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Why is Rob out of the draft right now?
[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Rob's out cause he got grenaded.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So that we can't even put that on Asia.
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that wasn't even the Asia pick.
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I mean, listen, the, the first three, four episodes of the season was the, the rise
[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_02]: of the Roman hierarchy where Rome just happened to have the full control.
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_02]: He has an idol.
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_02]: He's looking around, he's got control and it's a very tough.
[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: He's fishing.
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a very tough person to take down.
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And ultimately I think it was more of a, well, we don't want to have to deal with Rome if
[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_02]: we don't do things his way.
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's still here.
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So let's just do something else.
[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And Asia becomes the, something else that, and I do think that if I remember correctly,
[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Asia really planting the feet in and saying, I'm not getting rid of salt.
[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It's Genevieve or it's dust is kind of the other part where other people looked more willing
[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_02]: to switch up on the vote.
[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas Asia was like, this is the vote or it's not nothing.
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like that's really what it was.
[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_11]: In hindsight, I, it feels like this was, uh, like you could really lay this at the feet
[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_11]: of Genevieve, um, who successfully managed to kind of trick, uh, Keyshawn and, and teeny
[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_11]: into thinking that she was a solid number for them.
[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_11]: Um, more so than Asia and, uh, and, and Saul, uh, which obviously was not the case.
[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_11]: And, and I think that like, you know, uh, I definitely took a little, a bit of glee in this, but like the move to take out Asia was so clearly the wrong one for pretty much everyone on that tribe, except for Genevieve.
[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_11]: Um, Teeny is still in it with a shot, but you know, clearly not as good a position as they might've been in had Asia been there instead of Genevieve.
[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, yeah, Asia got Genevieve like that.
[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_09]: And a lot of people have been Genevieve and we didn't know that at the time because Genevieve was so purple then.
[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think we even joked, like, imagine if this is all Genevieve.
[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_09]: And then like, we found out it was, and we're like, imagine if Asia is against like one of the best social players ever.
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_09]: And that wins out like against everyone else's best interest because they want to work with this person so, so much because she's like a magical social player.
[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_09]: And then that was true.
[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_09]: So many people that day got Genevieve and until last week we're getting Genevieve.
[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think that that is what happened.
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_09]: So very unfortunate because in those small tribes, yeah.
[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_09]: If you're going to go up against like such a kind of awe inspiring social player, like Genevieve has been there's little room to move, especially when they wanted to roam out.
[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_09]: He has an idol.
[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_09]: And now like the options are very, very limited.
[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_09]: But I do feel like with Rob, do we think that he's, we can't let him play again.
[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Because I'm thinking this is a Tony run.
[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Last season, Kageyan.
[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_09]: This season is his game changer.
[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Let's not let him come back for the winners of war.
[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Let Asia come back and draft again.
[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, yeah, I'll take it.
[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Come back home, Asia.
[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I can't deal with another RHAP person going on Survivor.
[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_06]: It was too much.
[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_06]: I really did not enjoy the first few episodes of this season at all.
[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I'm talking about at all.
[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_06]: But the one thing I will give Asia is there's a reason why Genevieve was purple.
[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, look at the material.
[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_06]: There was so much Asia content to give them like between Asia and baby Andy and John Lovett.
[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like, yeah, we'll get to Genevieve.
[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_06]: She'll have her moment.
[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_06]: I think they gave Asia and RJP time to shine while she was on the show.
[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And then when she got eliminated, it was very sad that she had to go.
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_06]: But also good on Rob.
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I'm happy that this happened to Rob because he really did play in my face.
[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_06]: And so moving on, Taryn.
[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_06]: You had the second pick and you chose another RHAP favorite.
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_06]: You chose baby Andy.
[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was very jealous, Taryn.
[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_06]: But it seems like things are going well.
[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it was a bit of a roller coaster.
[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_11]: People were really dogging on me for the Andy pick after the first couple of episodes.
[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_02]: That was a rough episode one, Taryn.
[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Rough episode one.
[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_11]: And I was feeling because obviously it was Andy or Tini that I was looking at.
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_11]: I was feeling like, oof, you know, Tini had such a strong start.
[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Maybe I should have gone with Tini.
[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_11]: But now I feel like it's flipped a little bit.
[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_11]: And Andy has had quite the comeback.
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_11]: And and maybe my my highest value player on the board right now in terms of win equity.
[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm not sure, but it's certainly possible.
[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_11]: He has been like the star of multiple episodes.
[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_11]: They keep like highlighting him at the start of every episode and where I'm like, oh, OK, here it is.
[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_11]: This is his downfall episode.
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_11]: But then just like nothing happens.
[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_11]: He's just like in the mix with everyone and everyone's trusting him.
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_11]: And I'm like, how did this happen?
[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, yeah, he's I'm pretty sure one edgy pick.
[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's had the episode title three weeks or four weeks in a row now.
[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_02]: They've been his titles.
[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: All of them.
[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, speaking of speaking of Tony, he makes me he reminds me of Tony in terms of his edit in the sense that like Tony was hard to predict as the winner that season, his original season, because he was such a big character that you're like, ah, well, obviously you're giving Tony a bunch of content, but he's not the winner.
[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_11]: So it was like, oh, it's the woo woo is going to win this season because he has the under under the radar at it sort of thing where it's like, you know, Andy could be the winner and be having all this content or he could just be Andy and having all this content.
[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_11]: It's impossible to tell the difference as far as I'm concerned.
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he's so compelling in his own right.
[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_09]: And I but I am worried.
[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_09]: And I said this on the recap this week that like we don't really hear from other people about how like Andy is a spider now.
[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_09]: And it requires such a drastic perception change.
[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_09]: And if anything, like what we've heard recently, like from Sierra, who's, you know, head of Ponderosa at this point, like is negative things.
[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_09]: So I kind of do worry that Andy will get to the end and talk about how he's been the spider and the snake and et cetera analogies.
[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_09]: And people will be like, no, you weren't.
[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm concerned about that.
[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Like at this point, I have Andy in like a top three winner potential, but I would still put money more that he's like the Jake style losing finalists, which is to me like the most compelling spot to be in.
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think that that tracks, but I still think it's a good pick.
[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_09]: It was just the roller coaster to get it back to being a good second pick has been crazy.
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_09]: And now it's like where it should be.
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm sure you were sweating there for like if this was the type of season format where we do redrafts midseason.
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Andy gets picked ironically around where he got picked in this beginning of the season.
[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's a top tier pick Chappelle.
[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, you and I are acquainted with with one Andy here.
[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And when we got on stage to talk about him at the New York show this season, that was the episode where Andy put the hips in motion.
[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, listen, Andy's naughty, man.
[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Andy's doing stuff with his tongue, doing stuff with his teeth, like his mouth and off that ball.
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I want you to win.
[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, baby.
[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Andy did not come here to play with y'all.
[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, like you said, the star of many of the episodes, naming the episode that he's all that moment is crazy.
[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, what was the last time we just got like such a big character moment from a player that it's like almost aside from the game?
[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just like they just gave Andy a segment to be Andy.
[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_06]: And one of my favorite things about this is that we've heard rumors that there could be a player from this season coming back for Survivor 50.
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_06]: And I wouldn't count Andy out at all.
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_11]: No, that'd be my top pick.
[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe Andy could do this twice.
[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Y'all look there's Andy D as twine.
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, let's do it.
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Let's get it.
[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_06]: So big good pick from Taryn.
[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I think a pick that I can say we are envy.
[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think any of us were going to have Andy low on our draft boards, but you know, them's the brakes.
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_06]: This is the order we have to go off of.
[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Pouya, you went third and I thought you had a great third pick with Tiana.
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I genuinely at that moment felt like because coming into the draft, I was like, OK, I have a feeling if I first of all, if I'm in the top two picks, I'm going to end up with one of Asia or Andy.
[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I knew who my number one pick was in my head.
[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_02]: If neither of them were on the season or in my options, it was Tiana.
[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I did not regret this pick for a minute.
[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I felt really good about this pick.
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess ultimately to see her get all the way to our we're all together.
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Psych Rachel, get out of here.
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_02]: We're redoing the Tuku tribal and having her go out there was heart wrenching and not even for the draft.
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, ultimately, as much as I do care about the draft, I want to win the draft.
[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to brag about it.
[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_02]: My heart ached just watching her meet her faith there and get voted out.
[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_02]: That was a very tough watch to see Tiana be this close to that jury and to be sniped out right before it happens.
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Right. Survivor is far from fair.
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_06]: But I mean, everything we've heard from people on the show and their exit press say that if Rachel hadn't walked out that that day with that safety without power, she would have gotten voted out.
[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And Tiana probably would have been here to fight another day.
[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Very, very, very twist screwed.
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I mean, some would say Tiana got to a screw.
[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, what safety without power?
[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Just somebody handing it to the one person and you know, it's Tiana got twist saved and then twist screwed at the same time.
[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_09]: New era.
[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_09]: And it happened all within the span of like 15 minutes.
[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_06]: But it happens so quickly.
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_06]: That is the new era.
[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Shannon, the monster is coming for you.
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think it just it got Tiana right before, you know, the marriage or, you know, the jury phase or whatever.
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_09]: But like with Tiana, because she was going to be my third pick as well.
[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Like Asia, Andy, Tiana, like as much as I can, like, you know, complain about, you know, Rob did badly and be mean to him.
[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Like Asia obviously made a PowerPoint wanting Asia.
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_09]: John love it.
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_09]: I wanted to get wasn't as high on Sierra, but like those first two picks like I was going to take.
[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_09]: So Tiana, I was going to take the but I feel like it wasn't just the twist like Tiana's game.
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_09]: I was surprised because I really came in very high on her.
[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_09]: And then like the whole pre-murge, she was at the bottom.
[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_09]: She didn't know that Gabe and Sue were close.
[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Like she got gaped.
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Mm hmm.
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_09]: That's not great.
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_09]: So her game wasn't like where I expected it to be for a third pick.
[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_09]: I thought it was a great pick at the time.
[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Very, very fair.
[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_09]: But like she kind of like wants the money back.
[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_09]: I think how that went.
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Taryn, your draft picks are going perfectly right now.
[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_06]: But where did Tiana fall for you on your on your draft board?
[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you remember thinking that she was a great pick at the time?
[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_11]: I'd have to look at my.
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_11]: I'd have to look at her.
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, exactly.
[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I agree with Shannon though.
[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Tiana there.
[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, there were some flaws, you know, trying to jump ship before it was time to jump ship
[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_06]: definitely didn't do her any favors, but it didn't seem like that was going to be the thing
[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_06]: that got rid of her right then.
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, the two coolers went into the merge in the jury portion with four people
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_06]: and it could have been five, you know, if it's not for the safety without power.
[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, you know, I think it was a solid pick.
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Pouye just, you know, the new era is very unforgiving.
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And Liana will go on to pick Tini next.
[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_06]: I've had such a rollercoaster ride with Tini.
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I wanted Tini to do well.
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Tini recognizes Asia right off the bat.
[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, yes, somebody is going to save Asia because I mean, how could you not target Asia?
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Look at her.
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_06]: She's a big target.
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_06]: This is Asia, but also she's great.
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Why would you not want to work with Asia?
[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_06]: And we see Tini battling with that same exact thing.
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_06]: We get the RHIP shout out, but also the power of Genevieve,
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_06]: the gravitational pull of Rome, his advantage that he had.
[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_06]: There were so many things going, you know, a certain way for the Tini Asia relationship that they're not really able to salvage it.
[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Tini does end up voting out Asia.
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_06]: But since then, Tini has had such a rollercoaster ride in this game, specifically dealing with Genevieve.
[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_06]: But just in general.
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I mean, I thought he needed a great start.
[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_11]: And I think that like everything that, you know, you'd be hopeful for Tini to have in terms of like game ability is there.
[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_11]: They have a great social game and I wouldn't say like bad strategic instincts either.
[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_11]: I think that just they really, I mean, if you look at it all the way through, it's just been Genevieve is the problem for Tini.
[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_11]: Genevieve has been such a thorn in their side from day one between the the Asia thing and then eventually this all thing.
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_11]: It's really prevented Tini from being able to to really gain any momentum in the game.
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_11]: And I don't think they're like completely, completely out of it.
[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_11]: But it does feel like part of the story they're telling with Tini is that they were just a little too trusting overall.
[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_11]: And that I think was, you know, in relation to the scene they had with Sam, who's the next pick where Sam was like, yeah, I'm lying.
[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_11]: And Tini was like, oh, Sam wants to work with me.
[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_11]: It's like, oh, yeah, that's there. They're trying to tell us something here.
[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Right. Shannon, you've been reading the edgic tea leaves.
[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think so.
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Right. Well, but listen, I've heard you mention that the teeny edit is not a bad edit for a winner.
[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I mean, I think the teeny edit is great.
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_09]: I think teeny has the best edit of the edits left because it's like Andy has the most OTT edit.
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_09]: But I feel like that could just be Andy. The most like considered edit, I feel like is teeny.
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_09]: And we're talking about this on the global B&B collab like Liana feels teens edit is a little too like broad story versus like personal story.
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like it's a little bit too. Yeah, maybe just like story versus strategy.
[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_09]: But I also feel like the strategy has been lacking.
[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_09]: So if your winner has been out of it until now and then is going to be the teenics rising from the ashes, but hasn't started rising yet.
[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_09]: And it was in the fire for the last few episodes.
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_09]: You have to maybe make it on broader narration or more personal content.
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_09]: And I feel like that's where teeny has been.
[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like the edits very much there.
[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_09]: I think the jury's there, right?
[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Like Sierra soul would vote.
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_09]: They're starting it off.
[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Likeable will be well-spoken.
[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_09]: I think can have it, but the game hasn't been there.
[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_09]: I think that the edit has done a lot to defend teeny to this point and keep you still invested in their story.
[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_09]: So I think the edit is there.
[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Like I have teeny second on my winner predictions right now from an edit and game perspective,
[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_09]: because I think the games now opened up to be pretty good for teeny.
[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, Liana hanging in there.
[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like Liana was going to come to this, right?
[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Like two weeks ago, she said she was free, but then like something happened.
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I can share this now, but we didn't want to say anything in case like her mom was going to be listening to any content,
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_02]: but she went home to surprise her mom for Thanksgiving.
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_09]: So I was just trying to be funny because she got, you know,
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_09]: but now I feel terrible because that sounds really sweet.
[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_02]: How do you feel Shannon? Huh?
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Happy Thanksgiving Liana's mom.
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't have Thanksgiving.
[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_09]: You're okay.
[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the thing is right.
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Two weeks ago, we were in a situation where Taryn and Liana had full teams and I was like,
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: the rest of us look ridiculous.
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And then Liana lost two back to back and is on the same island as the rest of us.
[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty much.
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_09]: And Genevieve and Kyle also, you know, never count your chickens, but they're probably the next two kind of targets.
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_09]: So hopefully Taryn suffers the same fate.
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully.
[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, let's try on each other's downfall.
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's just spread the wealth.
[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's spread the wealth.
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I like to keep it.
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_09]: I spend most of my time praying for all of your downfalls in the draft and otherwise, like if you guys don't know me.
[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_09]: I think it's fair.
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's fair.
[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Pouya, Tyni has not played a perfect game by any stretch of the imagination, but neither did Kenzie.
[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Right. And I think a lot of like when you look back at Kenzie's game last season, the social bonds that Kenzie made really allowed her to win against, you know, some of the more strategic movers and shakers in the game.
[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Could you see something like that happening for Tyni this time?
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely possible.
[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, ultimately, this is kind of to me, the story has been Tyni feels good, feels good, feels good.
[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Loses key ally, has to reboot, has to pick up every new piece.
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Loses Keyshawn, reboot, pick up pieces.
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Tyni feeling good, feeling good, feeling good.
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Now meeting everybody else feeling good, has made some bonds.
[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Good, good, good, good, good.
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Has an amulet.
[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Good, good, good.
[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And then boom, Saul gets clipped now and is kind of on an island, feels betrayed by the one person, one other person.
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And they've been there with the entire time.
[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like Tyni's shown multiple times now.
[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I can pick it all back up and I can try again.
[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't got that quit.
[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when I feel down, I'm not out completely.
[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So I can definitely see that.
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Ultimately, I don't know.
[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I think she's not the not at the running as the winner by any stretch of the imagination.
[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's looking like a very upwards climb as of right now for me.
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I definitely agree.
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[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Next up, I got to pick and full transparency.
[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_06]: At this point, I was choosing between Sam and Rachel.
[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_06]: They were both the highest people not from RHAP world that I wanted to pick.
[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_06]: So Asia, Andy, Sam and Rachel were my top four people.
[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I had to decide.
[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_06]: And Sam's bio just jumped out at me because I said this then and I stand by it.
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_06]: He really was talking about the game the way I see the game.
[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_06]: And so everything that Sam has done in the game, I completely understood.
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't necessarily think they were all right decisions, but it felt like Chappelle decisions for sure.
[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_06]: So I've been enjoying seeing Sam play.
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And but one of the things that I guess is kind of a little disappointed to me is that nobody is talking about Sam as the winner.
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, really hoping that Sam is the winner.
[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_11]: I feel like I've been talking about Sam as the winner since episode one.
[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_11]: I felt like since he said glue guy, I was like, I feel like this guy could be the glue guy.
[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_09]: But he hasn't been the glue guy.
[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_09]: But he said it.
[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like he has been anything.
[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like Sierra was the glue girl.
[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_09]: And then they said that Rachel was the glue again.
[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Has anyone else said this with Sam to say it about himself?
[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Listen, sometimes you got to make your own winner quote.
[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_06]: But I think that at this point, you know, people are talking about that.
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And it is so good for teeny.
[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_06]: The edgy is pointing to Andy Genevieve's an all time social player.
[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Kyle's got this immunity run.
[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_06]: My boy, Sam is holding on.
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_06]: So Taryn, do you still feel that way?
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you think Sam is one of the front runners?
[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_11]: I feel like Sam is still in there with a with a good shot.
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_11]: I feel like his content has never been negative.
[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_11]: He was always the one person on that tribe that was like explicitly protected from the Andy stuff.
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_11]: He was always the guy that like, even though they kind of implied that everyone was looking down on Andy, Sam was always the one that they would make sure they went out of their way to be like, but not Sam or like, hey,
[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_11]: Rachel and Sierra are like, think this of me.
[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_11]: And it's like, where is Sam's name in that?
[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, and so that to me was always like very like pointed in that direction.
[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_11]: Now, I will say in regard to Rachel, I feel like they've done work to like reconcile her and Andy.
[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_11]: So I think that she's she's now healed from that.
[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_11]: But I thought Sam was just always protected from it in the first place.
[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_11]: And he's just always see he's a good narrator, which is maybe why he's getting a lot of content.
[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_11]: But like he's also like very active.
[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_11]: I've seen some people say he might be like the the Jake or the Owen edit or that Teenie might be that.
[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_11]: But I don't see it because because he's trying.
[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_11]: Right. He tried with the vote before and didn't happen.
[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_11]: But this time it did happen.
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_11]: Like he got Gabe out like they gave the credit to him.
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_11]: And so I feel like he's definitely still in there with a shot.
[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, that's more of a win than like Owen and Jake were getting.
[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like that is not and that's just not how people perceive someone like Sam just from like a perception demographic perspective.
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like because he's such like a kind of a leading guy like him just getting to the end.
[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_09]: People would be impressed even if it's just on survival if they fully depower him.
[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I was saying like if he lost his vote and they voted out like a Rachel, then you can kind of go on the narrative.
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_09]: But I don't think the losses have been heavy enough to like really depower that perception.
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_09]: But Chappelle, I have to train you in the ways of relying on a big strong guy to win.
[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_09]: And I have to be like your Yoda in this and like I need to let you know like big strong guys around the final six for they will.
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_09]: I think that worked.
[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I feel like he's just going to get clipped around like the end game and I can tell you why I know that because it happens to me every year.
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_09]: So that's probably what that's how I see it for Sam.
[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_09]: But I think he's like playing as well.
[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_09]: He can to this point coming back from from where he was.
[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Pouya, do I still have a chance to win the draft with Sam?
[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's not looking great, bro.
[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not I'm not saying that I'm not saying that it's it's done right.
[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I think arguably to me of all the teams left.
[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I think your team is the second most likely of the rest of us to win.
[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_09]: How is that?
[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Mathematically.
[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_02]: First of all, it's my personal opinion, right?
[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Second of all.
[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm a lot of cool out bad opinion.
[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_02]: You have had some literally Shannon your odds of winning this season.
[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I've gone up a lot and don't think I've not noticed that you're not going to win one of your many jacked dude picks.
[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: We literally get to that.
[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm saving you from yourself and you might win the draft because of Chappelle.
[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So I would have taken Rachel.
[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_09]: I would have taken Rachel.
[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_09]: You would not if I had one strong buff guy spot and I used it on TK.
[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_09]: I wanted to use it on Sam.
[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_09]: I would have had Rachel and Sam likely story.
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_06]: No, but I was going to take if I had taken Rachel, then then who were you going to take?
[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, right at that point.
[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, honestly, I will say it and I know that it's easy to say and she's not even going to win.
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_09]: So it's what I think Genevieve.
[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_09]: I really I said she was sparkly go back and check the tapes.
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_09]: I felt really good about Genevieve and I probably like Sam and Genevieve if I couldn't get like Rachel TK.
[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_09]: That's why I wouldn't have taken TK and Sam because of you would have made fun of me.
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm so sensitive.
[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, we are.
[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, we're still here.
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to make fun of you regardless.
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_06]: So, yeah, but even more.
[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_06]: This is the first time that Shannon has a moment on her team.
[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_06]: We didn't go back to the crazy take of who you're saying that Chipo has the second best team.
[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think it's a crazy take.
[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_06]: So we're moving on.
[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_06]: So we are going to talk about how Shannon...
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, wait.
[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine to explain that because I feel like as of like maybe an episode, episode and a half ago, I really felt that way.
[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I did watch this last week's episode today because I was out of town for that one.
[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_02]: So obviously that has changed since.
[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think it's a wild take to say that Sam and Caroline were looking very good about like an episode around ago for me.
[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like they're exactly mid.
[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So who was second for you of the team's remaining?
[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, I mean, I guess Liana, like me, Liana, Taryn, Chappelle, you, Rob.
[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Hmm.
[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I mean, we could still talk about the rest of the players.
[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Listen, Shannon, you had to pick a woman this time.
[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I left you no choice.
[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_06]: And it worked out.
[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, it looks like you, you, you definitely could have, but, uh, you know, we gave you a shot here.
[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_06]: You, uh, you went against your, your instincts and your urges and you said, okay, I'm going to support women.
[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And Rachel has had the ride of a lifetime here as well.
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, she starts off in a tribe and she thinks she's in a dominant position.
[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, they have her snow for several, uh, vote outs because they get rid of John Lovett.
[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And then it's like, okay, Rachel and the crew are just going to string Andy along.
[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_06]: But then Andy starts to take control of whatever that alliance is along with, uh, with, uh, Sam and Sierra.
[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_06]: And Rachel finds herself on the outs watching a couple of her allies go down.
[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And then she starts to kind of emerge now in the post merge where she's got an advantage here.
[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_06]: She gets saved by Saul.
[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, she's not the biggest target, but to me, I feel like maybe Rachel is in a spot where she could win,
[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_06]: but I don't think she's a standout as somebody who, if you put her up against somebody like, like Sam, for instance,
[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_06]: like how does she get the votes over Sam?
[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_06]: How does she get the votes over, you know, a Genevieve, you know?
[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_09]: She's not sitting with Sam Chappelle.
[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_09]: He's going in the top six.
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know what to tell you.
[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Listen, you, you think that Rachel has a really good chance of winning the game.
[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Almost as good as the best chance.
[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_09]: I think she has the best chance, right?
[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_06]: The best chance.
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_06]: So tell me why.
[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, I think on game and edit, Rachel's got it, you know, cause Teenie's, you know, as we said, maybe, I think Teenie does have the best edit,
[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_09]: but is a little personal by necessity due to the game, not being there.
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_09]: And he's, I think is OTT as I've said, for the reason of losing finalists compelling, like Andy specific, but they're still both good.
[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_09]: But Rachel, I feel like he's getting a lot of game stuff.
[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_09]: She gets the chance to even explain how she's gauging the shot in the dark.
[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, there are a lot of casuals who probably didn't understand what she even meant by that, but they gave her the time.
[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_09]: And I feel like from a game position, I can imagine her sitting at the end, talking about things like the shot in the dark move, which people will love and the rice move.
[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_09]: And she still has an idol.
[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think she has runway in front of her.
[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think she's smart enough to do it and to talk about it.
[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think that the edit is there and I feel like she's my number one pick right now.
[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm just feeling so excited about it.
[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like, I'm poised for a really big fall because I'm just like, I'm so I'm so excited about it.
[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm really rooting for Rachel to go a little bit further, just though your fall is a lot more epic.
[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_06]: But I like Rachel.
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_06]: And so it's really hard to root against her.
[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Puyo, what were you going to say?
[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm about to say something that's the opposite of what you're about to say.
[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I am not upset at a world where Rachel wins and by proxy Shannon wins the draft.
[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And here's why.
[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I just think it is just statistically ridiculous.
[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_02]: This idea that we are about to we will be entering 48.
[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_02]: So our 48 with no one having won twice.
[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I know, Taryn, I know you had two first place.
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not even about me. Right.
[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think obviously Rob coming in as proxy taken in the grenade rule, taking the win there.
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I just think it's just wild to think that we'll get to 48.
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Asia comes back to the draft and no one has won more than what are the odds of that?
[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Can someone calculate the odds of that?
[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, it'd be very difficult because like Rob coming in for two seasons is an anomaly.
[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Got it out.
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_06]: We've had a couple of statistical anomalies.
[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_06]: That would be crazy, actually.
[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_09]: If it was seven seasons of seven people ever drafting and we all won one.
[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_09]: I think that would be highly, highly statistically improbable.
[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_09]: And I really want to know after that, how much after that,
[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_11]: that's the next the grenade rule to stop me from winning twice.
[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_11]: It makes more sense.
[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I tried to get the grenade removed after 41.
[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Y'all didn't let it happen.
[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So you could have been the two timer here.
[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_11]: Listen, I was down with my spiritual.
[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think in the event, Shannon, that you do.
[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And first of all, congratulations for that.
[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much.
[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think then the next thing I'll be looking for is,
[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_02]: do we get a repeated order where then Taryn wins 48?
[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Chappelle.
[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Maybe wait again.
[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_02]: That would be ridiculous.
[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_02]: If two of you, if that order starts forming, we might have to disband.
[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_02]: This might be too much power.
[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, then Taryn has to go on Survivor.
[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_06]: No, Taryn has to go on Survivor at that point.
[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And then Rob will come in, you know, so it'll work itself out.
[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_06]: But I'll say this as much trash that I'm talking.
[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Shannon, if I'm going to support you winning any draft,
[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_06]: this is the one because Rachel is so good.
[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_06]: I like her so much.
[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_06]: So watching her play the game is so cool as well.
[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_06]: So it's kind of like if you got to win one, I could give you this one.
[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, deep down, I'm kind of hoping that you don't win.
[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_06]: That's mean.
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, it was almost done.
[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I mean, yeah, Kishon and TK.
[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Like what I really wanted at that point, because it didn't look like Rachel
[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_09]: had the winner early.
[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_09]: And I was like, I just need her to only lose to Sierra by one
[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_09]: so that at least Rob would have the worst average draft placement.
[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_09]: But Sierra is gone.
[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Rachel might win.
[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_09]: And she was almost out the door.
[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_09]: She was, you know, with Tuku in that group.
[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_09]: And I was like, oh, it's done.
[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_09]: And then she got saved by the gods being Saul.
[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm just so excited to still be here with you guys.
[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I feel like I was looking at Tini and Sam as the front earners for a long time.
[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_11]: And I feel like Tini has fallen out of winning winner at a decent amount.
[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_11]: I think Sam has lost some luster.
[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_11]: And I really feel like Rachel and Andy were the two that have kind of like risen.
[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_11]: Genevieve also.
[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_11]: But Genevieve had a rough episode this week.
[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_11]: So to me, it does.
[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_11]: It is starting to feel like it could definitely be Rachel, especially because they're attaching
[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_11]: like a huge portion of her story to Andy.
[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, I feel like she keeps talking again, like healing the thing about Andy.
[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, oh, Andy and I have had such a similar journey over the course of this season.
[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_11]: And it's like, I don't know if I see that, but like, sure.
[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, I think edit wise, it feels like they're trying to tie this together because Andy feels
[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_11]: like kind of like story a for the season.
[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_11]: And they're trying to like tie the winner into it to some degree.
[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_11]: I think also that like part of the reason why I wasn't looking at her in the start was
[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_11]: because they had her like dismissing Andy so much.
[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_11]: And I felt like, you know, would they have that?
[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_11]: But but again, because she's now sort of reconciling with Andy, I think it makes more sense.
[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_11]: She's shown to be a very smart player and she's had a lot of good content in the back half.
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_11]: So I definitely think she's a top contender at this point.
[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't think anybody's a perfect candidate.
[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_11]: And I think that she is very much up there.
[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, a couple of things from the chat.
[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Firstly, Matt Benjamin says that the quick math is around 0.6, 1, 1, 9, 8, etc.
[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_09]: To get seven different winners out of seven drafters.
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_09]: I can't check that math, but I'm just going to take that at face.
[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_09]: That would be that would be crazy.
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_09]: And then Wild West says, I think the players on the island that respect Rachel are Genevieve, Caroline, maybe Andy.
[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_09]: We've seen a lot of people respect Rachel.
[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Like when Caroline says that, for example, like the Tuku Tribal Council, I feel like everyone's agreeing.
[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, Gabe is on the jury.
[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_09]: He was saying that like Rachel is such a huge threat.
[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Like definitely the perception is very much there.
[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_09]: So she's not winning.
[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_09]: No, I see it.
[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_09]: This is going to be my time.
[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_06]: And that was Rachel's driving force and trying to get Genevieve out this week as well.
[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_06]: She's like, Genevieve sees me as who I, you know, as the threat that I am.
[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_06]: And so, yeah, if Rachel gets to the end, maybe the rest of them will see it too.
[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_06]: The next pick, I think, did we do a snake?
[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_06]: We did a snake, right?
[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_06]: It was your pick again.
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_06]: So we, we had the loss of TK early on in the game.
[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I was feeling great about that.
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Big strong guy.
[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_06]: And, but, but TK had an interesting, you know, kind of trajectory in the game.
[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_06]: He, he forges his own path in episode one, something that Asia was supposed to do.
[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And then he goes on to go on and get eliminated because of the way maybe he was dealing with
[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_06]: his team, maybe way he was dealing with Tiana.
[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_06]: He called his, his team's losers.
[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't think they really went for that.
[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's, it's, it's sort of pushed him out while Gabe was trying to get pushed in.
[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, were you surprised at how fast TK went Shannon?
[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_06]: No, I thought he'd go second.
[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_09]: So that's why I drafted him.
[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_09]: Of course I was surprised.
[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_09]: I was pretty upset about it.
[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_09]: And, um, yeah, it was really just not going extremely well because especially cause I
[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_09]: feel like it was like, he did that to himself.
[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, like with other people, you're like, well, that's a tough situation.
[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Even like he's Sean.
[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, okay, well it was there, you know, I mean, even though I got him last, but
[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_09]: like, I don't usually blame him.
[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Whereas just like TK, I feel like he did a lot of that and put people off.
[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_09]: So I'm pretty upset about it.
[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Taryn, you shocked about TK's placement this time?
[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Was he like the first person voted off of his tribe?
[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, yeah.
[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_06]: He went second, Chappelle.
[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just, listen, I'm just remembering.
[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't, I don't have the data in front of me.
[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_09]: You don't even remember that long ago when TK went.
[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Everything before Asia left, it was up.
[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_09]: The first of his tribe, they only went one time to tribal council.
[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_09]: Are you guys watching this season?
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Was that Gabe's tribe?
[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_09]: That was Gabe's tribe.
[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_09]: I appreciate that.
[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_11]: Listen, I had TK really low on my pet peeves list.
[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_11]: So.
[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_11]: What was it?
[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't remember.
[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't remember what it was.
[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_09]: People losing in challenges, not trying hard enough in challenges.
[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Clearly he does not like that.
[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_06]: That was enough to get him sent home.
[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, Pooja.
[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I like TK.
[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I was really hoping that we could see more of him.
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, if he got later on in the game, but it seemed like he just got outplayed.
[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_02]: He did.
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, ultimately, you know, going out that in the early run, you'd, you'd imagine someone
[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_02]: of his stature would be kept for the physical components of the challenges.
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't need that.
[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_02]: He ended up on a tribe where they're like, we're good, man.
[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Goodbye.
[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and I think ultimately I also had him lower on my list.
[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, he didn't quite speak to me, but I did not expect them to go out second.
[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of thought he'd be like right around where we get our like 12th, 11th exits.
[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of where I had him pegged.
[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, the average draft placement.
[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I could have saw him, uh, making the merge for sure.
[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, my next pick was Anika and I was so happy with my Anika pick.
[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I was very proud of this pick coming out of the draft.
[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, man, y'all got me messed up.
[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Cause I got a sleeper pick on y'all.
[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And then the game started and it's like, Hey, you know, Sam's number one enemy is Anika.
[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, Oh wow.
[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_06]: This is, this is tough.
[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Why did I draft two people from the same tribe?
[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_06]: What was I doing?
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I just, it was like a slow March to find out which one of them gets the other
[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_06]: one out.
[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_06]: But the Anika blind side is probably one of the high points of the season for us.
[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Pouya.
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, we were live watching that happen and that's how you exit.
[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_06]: You milk that moment for like, for all it's worth and make people remember you.
[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And memorable.
[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It was men.
[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And not just because we got to watch it live and that, that pause in between Anika looking
[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_02]: back and staring down the rest of the tribe and the reaction in the room erupting that
[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_02]: aside, Anika was a very fun character.
[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was so broken to see her leave early.
[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought we could have gotten a lot out of Anika.
[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Anika was a great character on the show.
[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, ultimately for me, it was like, well, I want Andy to stay.
[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So then Anika gots the go if that's the other option.
[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I, I do, I do wish we got more of her, but when you picked Anika where you did, I wasn't
[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_02]: mad at that pick at all.
[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was a great spot.
[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And I still, I think I had Anika.
[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I had Anika going further than TK.
[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, for what it's worth.
[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, she did.
[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, Taryn, I can't imagine you were rooting for Anika too much considering her number
[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_06]: one target was Andy.
[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Wait, does that mean that you care about what her, what her placement was in the season?
[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I think we don't care about the average draft placement overall.
[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_06]: I think we just like to see how people, how people do, you know, I think no one brings
[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_06]: that up except you, except this time.
[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_06]: This was the first time I ever heard Taryn mention it.
[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_09]: We're going to get into it a bit later, but I will say one of my people, Michael O'Brien
[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_09]: on Blue Sky.
[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_09]: We are.
[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_09]: I've sent Sam a link to put up.
[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_09]: Michael O'Brien says, as you can see, I can just read it to you.
[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Will this episode have an update on the new era average draft placement standings?
[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_09]: It will.
[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_09]: We have a spreadsheet coming.
[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Michael, please stay tuned.
[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, the only metric that means anything, anyone can get lucky.
[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_09]: One's true.
[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Consistently picking great players across multiple seasons is a skill.
[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_09]: We will be getting to it.
[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_09]: So that's just a teaser for later on in the podcast.
[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I just don't think we have the time.
[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Is there anything else you want to add about Anika?
[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Very slow.
[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I will say.
[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_12]: We don't even have to wait.
[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_12]: That's Yaya.
[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_12]: So Yaya.
[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, what?
[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_09]: That's Yaya to Gabe in Rome wasn't really important.
[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, we've said a lot about Anika already, but we could talk.
[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_06]: We could talk about Liana's pick Gabe because he was a big portion of the season as well.
[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_06]: A big star coming out the gate.
[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_06]: He told us he wants to be on the Mount Rushmore of Survivors, the new era or the whole
[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_06]: era or whatever he said.
[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_06]: But do we think he accomplished that?
[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Shannon, what do you think about Gabe overall?
[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, do I think he's on the new era Mount Rushmore?
[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, he'll be back.
[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_11]: He said he's coming back.
[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_09]: I think that I mean, that's very tough.
[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know that anyone in the season right now is on the new era Mount Rushmore.
[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_09]: Maybe Andy could get there.
[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_09]: But I mean, I am.
[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_09]: I do have a spot like open on the new era Mount Rushmore, but I also have multiple seasons
[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_09]: left.
[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Where are your other three?
[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you got to tell us.
[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Carolyn, Marianne and Q were the three I always kind of had on my new era Mount Rushmore.
[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_09]: And then there's been, I mean, Emily Flippin, Shan, there's a lot of people
[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_09]: who could kind of go into that fourth spot.
[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_09]: That's tough.
[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_09]: I like the Shan, Marianne, Jam Jam.
[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_09]: I was gonna say Jam Jam.
[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_09]: Jam Jam's in the mix, but like I don't have a clear fourth.
[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_09]: That's the three for me.
[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, I mean, look, it's tough to get in the new era Mount Rushmore.
[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know about you guys.
[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_11]: I have Asia, Asia, Asia, Asia, Asia, Asia, look.
[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_11]: It's weird that you guys seem to be missing one.
[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_06]: That's a good pick.
[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Again, I'm not shocked that Shannon's leaving Asia off, you know, for reasons.
[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_06]: But Marianne and Carolyn.
[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I said for reasons.
[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_06]: But Taron, Dave said he will be back.
[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_06]: You think so?
[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_11]: I kind of feel for Gabe.
[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_11]: I feel like he was out there, you know, playing the game, doing his thing and, you know, ultimately
[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_11]: came up short.
[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_11]: I think the edit decided he wasn't super important.
[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_11]: And I think he probably had this moment of like watching the show and realizing, man,
[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_11]: I wasn't really the character that I was hoping I would be.
[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_11]: So I feel for him.
[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_11]: But but the answer is no, I don't I don't think he'll be back.
[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't think they I don't think they they took what he was given.
[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I think you've got a decent villain.
[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_06]: We don't really do villains in the in the new era like that.
[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_06]: We know Jeff not a big fan of bringing people on just for conflict.
[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_06]: But I think that this was a palpable villain.
[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, he didn't say anything too egregious or do anything to Hansen, you know, even though
[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_06]: he wanted to give a shout out to Russell Hans a little bit.
[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think it ever got that real for him.
[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_06]: But I think that he made a valiant effort.
[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_06]: If he gets through this most recent vote with four people, then I think he has a good
[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_06]: good shot at going to the end of the game.
[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_06]: But it was a it was a gamble that didn't necessarily pay off.
[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Pooja, you got any final words for Gabe?
[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I just remember when Liana picked Gabe here, a lot of people gave her crap for making a huge
[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_02]: mistake. And she was like, I believe I think he's a good pick.
[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to take that back.
[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think ultimately looking at the some of the people that went out before
[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Gabe, she kind of nailed it there. So kudos for her.
[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he did.
[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_09]: He did average draft placement.
[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no one talks.
[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Shannon, as former winners here, if you are about to join the winner's circle,
[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_02]: you got to get to the spreadsheet.
[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_02]: You got to cut it out.
[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to see at the spreadsheet how impressive this has done.
[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_02]: You got to see one of these.
[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: That goes out the window.
[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_02]: You cannot see.
[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Once we bring the spreadsheet up, we'll talk about it.
[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_09]: There is no spreadsheet.
[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_09]: There is a spreadsheet.
[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_09]: I sent it to Sam in the private chat and a lot of people in the chat.
[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Let's see what the chat is saying.
[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_09]: I can't put it on the screen.
[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_06]: And you guys, you cannot just like you can't put the imaginary spreadsheet on the
[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_06]: on the screen.
[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, so make sure y'all DM Shannon for whatever this data is.
[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_06]: It's going to happen.
[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_12]: Let's get to Rome and then we'll get to the spreadsheet.
[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, let's talk about Rome.
[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Rome is a very polarizing character this season.
[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Obviously, he comes out.
[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_06]: He's a big character, but he's pretty anti-Asia from moment one.
[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And so, you know, didn't like that.
[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_06]: He also gave a shout out to the RHAP family after Asia's elimination.
[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Didn't love that.
[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_06]: But the Rome rollercoaster was crazy.
[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, we saw all aspects of Rome, his huge personality.
[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_06]: We saw him as a strategist.
[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_06]: We saw him as a challenge competitor.
[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think he has what it takes to be like an all-time character if he were ever to play
[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_06]: again, but he got clipped in the pre-merge.
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I think we got our role while we had it.
[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_06]: And then, you know, was it a pre-merge?
[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Did he make the merge?
[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_06]: It's hard to know.
[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Every single thing in the new era has an asterisk.
[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_09]: The merge has an asterisk.
[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_09]: The challenges have an asterisk.
[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_09]: That just is the new era.
[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_09]: That's what we need to start talking about.
[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Is there one asterisk free aspect of the new era?
[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Maybe not.
[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_09]: So stats become impossible.
[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_09]: And that that's fine for me personally.
[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_09]: That's not something at all that I care about.
[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_09]: So he was with a group of people and they all voted him out.
[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_09]: So that's pretty emerging to me.
[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Taryn, do you do what's the most memorable moment you have from Rome?
[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_11]: When he got voted out.
[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's a big moment.
[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_11]: He sat in the chair.
[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_06]: He sat in the chair.
[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_06]: It was genuinely a cool moment.
[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I liked it.
[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought that was the coolest thing Jeff has ever done.
[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it was.
[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_11]: It was just like a cool moment to see somebody who is such a big fan have like a moment as
[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_11]: they're being voted out to like have that thing.
[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_11]: And yeah, I thought it was cool.
[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Love that for him.
[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_06]: His Twitter name is at Rome the host.
[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And so Jeff literally let him sit in his chair and host.
[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_06]: We've never seen Jeff act like this before.
[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Spicy Jeff is gone.
[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't care what anybody says.
[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Pouya, for me, I will never forget Rome and his challenge competitions because they had
[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_06]: some good showings.
[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_06]: And then there are some times where he's just doing a puzzle by himself and we're just like,
[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_06]: what's going on?
[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Rome was a lot of things, but he was definitely a character that made you feel something.
[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, for sure.
[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Whether it was a very negative reaction or in the first week when he was head first,
[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_02]: half his body in the well, like he definitely was a polarizing be very talked about and see,
[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I think if there ever was to be a heroes versus villains to he's top of the ballot for the
[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_02]: villains.
[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I really do think that if they're going to bring a villain from the new era, he is the
[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_02]: number one pick of villain in the new era easily.
[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And he would relish it.
[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that's the thing about Rome is he would he would embrace the title of villain
[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_06]: in a way that you would want a villain to embrace it.
[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Right. Like you don't want them to be a reluctant villain.
[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_06]: You want them to come in and say, no, I'm going to, you know, slit their necks
[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_06]: and then, you know, floss my teeth with their jugulars.
[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_06]: And speaking of, Tara, your next pick.
[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I think this person could be a shoe in for a villain if she ever came back to play.
[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_06]: You drafted Genevieve.
[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_06]: And again, for the first couple of episodes, I know you were kind of questioning this pick.
[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I don't think I questioned the Genevieve pick personally.
[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I was worried that she wasn't the winner.
[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_11]: I didn't think she was the winner, but I still.
[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Why did you drop?
[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_06]: No, he meant no.
[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_06]: No, he didn't see her on the show.
[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_06]: And he liked her pet peeve.
[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Gosh.
[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Shannon, please.
[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, exactly.
[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, like the like the the Andy teeny one was like, maybe I should have gone the other
[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_11]: way because quite frankly, though, those two were not based on pet peeves.
[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_11]: Those two are based on the fact that they were, you know, that I knew them.
[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_11]: What?
[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Nothing has meaning.
[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_09]: That's my pet peeve now.
[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, if we're going to be if we're going to be real, my grenade pick was also based on
[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_11]: although I didn't have any pet peeves then.
[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_11]: But that was also based on the fact that I'd met Jelinski and I.
[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_09]: And you had met two people.
[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_09]: This guy's going to win.
[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Taren had met two people.
[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_11]: I met the voter and the grenade and I drafted them both.
[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Maybe it's a using.
[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_09]: That's funny.
[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Maybe you're like some sort of dress.
[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_11]: Listen, tell me.
[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_11]: You've met this person in person.
[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_11]: You have a pick between that one person and one other person left in the draft.
[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_11]: You're going to make them the last pick having met them?
[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_09]: To be fair, I did this with Claire and that didn't go well.
[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_09]: And maybe we should stop drafting people on that metric.
[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_09]: I think it's actually a very bad way to go.
[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Doesn't seem that way for Taren and Andy.
[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_06]: It seems like everything's going right over there.
[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, fair enough.
[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_09]: That might be the exception that proves the rule.
[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Otherwise, it hasn't gone well.
[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_11]: Janet, though, I think her pet peeves turned out to be exactly correct that she is.
[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_11]: She is sharp.
[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_11]: She is cutthroat.
[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_11]: And she is just as deadly as I hoped she would be based on her pet peeves about airports.
[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_11]: In fact, when I met her cousin, she grilled me about my airport etiquette.
[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_11]: So, you know.
[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, what is that?
[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, the problem is that Genevieve's pet peeve is Taren.
[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_06]: She doesn't like people who line up before it's their turn to get on the airplane.
[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Taren is the first one in line.
[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Boarding group A.
[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Imagine if it was just Taren.
[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_09]: If you ever see that as a pet peeve, will you draft that person out of pure respect?
[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_12]: Or will that be like, wait, no, screw you forever?
[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_11]: Janet, Janet, what I will say is there are at least four people who thought about me when writing their pet peeves this season.
[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_08]: What, really?
[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_09]: It was a heavy one.
[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Your impact.
[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_09]: But can we say as well, and this is important, Andy's pet peeve was cherry-picked stats.
[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_09]: And now, as we're saying, the stats of the new era are always cherry-picked.
[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Like even just like Kyle's immunity run.
[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, like Shannon's average man.
[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_06]: We're getting to get to be able to share my screen later on.
[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm actually going to get to myself.
[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_06]: You really shouldn't be allowed to.
[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_06]: You just have to put it on the screen.
[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll make sure that we don't.
[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_06]: So, Booyah, for the sake of the gameplay, Genevieve, she's made some fun moves, right?
[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_06]: What is Genevieve's claim to fame for this season?
[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_02]: What's like the crowning achievement?
[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_06]: What is her biggest moment?
[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Whew, that's tough, you know.
[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's been quite a...
[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That's so me.
[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_02]: There's been a lot.
[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_02]: There's been a lot.
[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I think for me, though, it has to be...
[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_02]: You always remember the first.
[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And the Keyshawn ouster, I think, was my favorite of her moves because the realization
[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_02]: of like, ah, he can go.
[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He's expendable.
[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_02]: That was great because I was one of the people.
[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I was in the camp of, I don't know if the Saul boot is for you.
[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know if that's something you need to happen right now.
[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think the thing I've loved about Genevieve, and I think this is true when they give you
[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_02]: the edit they give you in the beginning, is that my expectations for Genevieve were very low,
[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_02]: especially after Genevieve's entire arc for the first three episodes was, I like Rome.
[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to work with him.
[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And then we just don't hear from her for three episodes.
[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_02]: So to then see this player that's been hiding in plain sight really make her appearance onto
[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_02]: the game to the point where there is respect there and there is genuine fear in the heart
[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_02]: of some of these players.
[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, afraid of Genevieve.
[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_02]: They do not.
[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, listen, the Canadians are back, Chappelle, okay?
[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_02]: The Canadians are doing it.
[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_11]: I think the best Genevieve moment is Rome and Tini coming to her being like, they're trying
[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_11]: to get out Rome, Genevieve.
[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_11]: And her being like, oh man, sucks.
[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Ooh, what am I going to do?
[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Or sorry, not Rome.
[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_11]: They're trying to get out Saul.
[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Saul, yeah.
[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_06]: The facial expressions in the last Tribal Council as well, her versus Gabe.
[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_06]: It's all been fun.
[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_06]: But to your point, Pouya, the Canadians be doing the things in the new era.
[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_06]: And that bodes well for Taryn as the person who drafted the Canadian.
[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, we will see what happens there.
[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't have a lot to say about John Lovett.
[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I wasn't a fan going into the season, so I didn't really know him too much.
[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_06]: So when Rob picked him, I was very surprised.
[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_11]: He was dead last on my pet peeve list.
[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Shannon, did you have a good job for John Lovett?
[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_11]: What not a good pet peeve?
[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_06]: You gotta go with a good pet peeve.
[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_11]: He was the one that teased me with all the, he's like, oh, I've got too many pet peeves
[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_11]: to list.
[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_11]: But he was a couple of them.
[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm a walking pet peeve.
[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_11]: And it's like two of them.
[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I love that.
[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_11]: It was just like, no, no, no.
[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_09]: I love people who have a lot of pet peeves.
[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_09]: I literally mentioned my pet peeves in my wedding speech for my brother two weeks ago, Taryn.
[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_09]: How we have so many pet peeves.
[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_09]: That's what I'm saying.
[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Don't be like, oh man, I'm full of pet peeves.
[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, like, like, you know, people who use their phones at red lights.
[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_11]: And it's like, what?
[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_11]: That's it?
[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like someone was like, I'm a big movie person.
[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I love movies.
[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_02]: What's your favorite movie?
[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's the most obvious.
[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Dark Knight.
[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, come on.
[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, that's it?
[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_09]: That's all you got?
[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, great movie.
[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, yeah, that is true.
[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_09]: I am working on my pet peeve master list.
[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_09]: That I'm going to send you Taryn.
[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Once it's ready, it's going to be categorized.
[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, I did, I searched pet peeve in my chat with my brother and 37 hits came up.
[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_09]: So I need to like scroll through that.
[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm make sure they're all there and then like have the actual list so that when I say
[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm someone who's full of pet peeves, it's not just generic and vague.
[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_09]: It's very specific and like warranted.
[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, I get it.
[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm looking at the one right now.
[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_11]: Was this article edited?
[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, so they added some after the fact.
[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_06]: They added some after the fact.
[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_06]: That's not the article that we got originally.
[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_06]: We had two.
[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Cause I'm seeing like, if I read this one, I would be a little happier with his pet peeves.
[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, uh, cause he said people who cut lines and then act confused.
[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_11]: I think that was one of the ones that was originally that people bring a full cart to self-checkout
[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_11]: at the grocery store.
[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_11]: People use their phones at red lights and I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but people are obsessed
[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_11]: with horoscopes.
[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_11]: You aren't single because of mercury.
[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, yeah, no, we had, we had two different articles with pet peeves.
[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_06]: That was the second one that dropped.
[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, he described himself as a gay Larry David.
[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was thinking Larry David cannot win survivor, but a lot of people Shannon were very
[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_06]: surprised that John was not the winner of the season.
[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_06]: A lot of people were saying like, I don't even was watching the show to see John.
[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm leaving now.
[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Were you shocked by John's placement?
[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_09]: They love, they love it or left it.
[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, right.
[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_09]: That's the thing.
[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, I, I said I would have drafted John Lovett.
[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_09]: I was saying that I hoped that he would fall to me in last place.
[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_09]: And I thought that he might have based on how the drafts were going.
[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_09]: And, um, you know, I was, I was, I was a Mike white voice fan of John Lovett.
[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_09]: I thought he was really fun narrator.
[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_09]: He is like a huge character who gave up his time, a huge personality in the world who gave
[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_09]: up his time to be on survivor.
[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think he could have been great.
[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_09]: And I don't think him leaving makes a ton of sense.
[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Like at the time I was like, they should have got rid of Andy.
[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_09]: And like, I might stand by that considering I think that they kept Andy for physical reasons
[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_09]: that hasn't panned out.
[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_11]: Um, and he's like, tell that to the editors.
[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_09]: For the challenges made like for the actual benefit of the challenges, if that's what
[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_09]: they want, um, maybe it's panned out for the actual tribe mates trying to win.
[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't think they were winning with Andy.
[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_09]: And now he's got like a vendetta list, you know, he has had against them.
[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_09]: So I probably would have stuck with John and I don't really think it was his fault that
[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_09]: he went.
[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think like, he was a kind of a, yeah, like I didn't think that it was so earned.
[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Like TK was earned as a second.
[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Like John, I didn't feel was super, super, and then I would have taken him and I'm not,
[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not harsh on Rob for that, but I'll still make fun of him.
[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_09]: And that's where I sit with it.
[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_06]: We do have to continue making fun of Rob a little bit, but I would go easy on him with this
[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_06]: pick as well.
[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Sierra.
[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's a solid pick.
[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that we see at the, when, when the merge actually starts, right?
[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_06]: When we actually get not the pre merge, not the mergatory, but when we get to the
[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Jury phase of the game, right?
[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Sierra is looked at as okay.
[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Her and Sam are a duo, but also she is the bigger threat.
[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, people are still talking about like, if we were voting out the weaker people, Sierra
[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_06]: would not be sitting on the jury.
[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that she had a good showing.
[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_06]: She clearly was in a power position in her tribe.
[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_06]: She's got good social relationships and I think she could have done well, but you
[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_06]: know, the numbers just weren't in her favor.
[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And she went, does anybody have any strong feelings about Sierra as a player or is she more
[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_06]: just like tied to Sam's legacy as this duo, Buuya?
[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_02]: No, to me, there was definitely more to Sierra than just that.
[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like for one watching her like what individual relationship with Andy was very fascinating
[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_02]: to me.
[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_02]: She ends up being the person that Andy gives the Sean the dark to his collateral.
[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I there was like a little bit not a long time, but it was a little bit in that right
[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: before we we all group up where I was like, you know, there's a world where we might have to break
[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: out the stat sheets to see who gets second place this season.
[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I wasn't out on her as having potential to get the crown that was short lived, obviously.
[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And then the boot happens anyway.
[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think she was a player with quite a bit of potential and I'm not going to lie to you.
[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Sierra was very low on my list.
[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Very low to the point where when Rob picked Sierra John Sierra back to back.
[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, does Rob is Rob just like doesn't even care like what's going on here?
[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I was very skeptical, but I was proven wrong.
[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Sierra is a worthy player.
[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, I was a big fan of Sierra as well.
[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_06]: We then move on to Terrence pick of Kyle and Kyle was pretty low on my list.
[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I think I think he might have been pretty close to last.
[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, maybe John Lovett was last, but I think I think Kyle was maybe the last person on my list.
[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I just didn't see it.
[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_06]: I had no clue Shannon that we were about to deal with somebody who was going to win on the track to win the most immunities in survivor history with an asterisk.
[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Are you are we cherry picking three different asterisks?
[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_09]: But again, it's not his fault.
[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_09]: It's a new year's fault.
[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Everything is an asterisk.
[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, everything's not what it says it is.
[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_09]: New era records are different.
[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_09]: I think that's maybe where I have to sit with it after days about just really seething with this.
[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, Kyle was low for me because I thought, you know, too nice for the game.
[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_09]: And that has been the edit.
[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't think I thought challenge beast necessarily.
[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_09]: So, you know, on average draft placement, he's gone pretty well, but it's Kyle winning.
[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't think we think Kyle is winning.
[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_06]: It would be tough.
[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_06]: He would have to.
[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_06]: We feel like you'd have to win a couple more challenges.
[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Taryn, this is your pick.
[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_06]: What do you think about of your draft picks?
[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you think Kyle has the least chance of winning?
[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_11]: At this point?
[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I don't think you have in the game, which is such a flex.
[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it is.
[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't think it's impossible.
[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_11]: And honestly, if somebody won out via challenges, this is how I would want their edit to be and not like one world.
[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_11]: So, you know, that wouldn't be like the worst thing in the world.
[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_11]: But but it doesn't seem super likely at this point.
[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_11]: Now, what I did think was funny was like this whole thing about like, did Kyle say Tweedledee and Tweedledum?
[01:03:09] [SPEAKER_11]: I know.
[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, he did say it right.
[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_11]: This whole what I've seen is like, ah, I knew it.
[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_11]: He's not the guy we thought he was or like, I don't know, guys.
[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't think he would have done that because he seems like a really nice guy.
[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_11]: Meanwhile, I'm like, how is anybody even remotely?
[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_11]: This sounds exactly like what he would say.
[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_11]: Really?
[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_10]: Tweedledee and Tweedledum.
[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_10]: That sounds like exactly the kind of insults he would come up with.
[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_10]: He's because he's such a like a like a just like a nice dude.
[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_10]: I don't think that's nice.
[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_11]: You're stupid.
[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_11]: That is stupid.
[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_11]: Tweedledee and Tweedledum.
[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_09]: You guys are okay with me called Tweedledee and Tweedledum?
[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_09]: And Mike and Leanna also were like, please call us that.
[01:03:48] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't ever want anyone to call me Tweedledum.
[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_09]: I will cry.
[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_02]: There are so many worse things out there to be called, though, is the point.
[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_09]: My skin is swollen.
[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I don't even want something that's much better than that.
[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_06]: But that's the thing, though.
[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Even when Andy's talking about it, he goes, well, that I didn't think that was very nice.
[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, that sounds just like an interaction that Andy and Kyle could have had.
[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, Tweedledee and Tweedledum.
[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_06]: And Andy's like, whew, that hurts.
[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_11]: It sounds like the sort of thing that Kyle would have said, like, when very in the middle of being very frustrated.
[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, oh, man, I can't stand that Tweedledee and Tweedledum over there.
[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_11]: You know?
[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, oh, gosh dumplings.
[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_09]: It's mean to call someone Tweedledum.
[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_09]: I will die on the hill.
[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_09]: It might be mean, but it's like the least mean.
[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_11]: What I'm saying is it's less mean than most other things you can call people.
[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like someone, someone stubbing their toe and saying mother trucker.
[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like you're not saying the thing you're saying.
[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: You're saying the PG thing.
[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_06]: So, yeah.
[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Kyle has an immunity run right now.
[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, he didn't he didn't win all the challenges.
[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_06]: He hasn't even won all the challenges that he won immunity on, but he got immunity.
[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's the point.
[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_06]: We have more immunity wins thus far.
[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, we know that there's what five guys with five immunity wins that would be
[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_06]: in front of him stat wise.
[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_06]: But I mean, he wins this one.
[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_06]: He would only have to win one more to be the ultimate.
[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I guess the person with the most immunity wins in survivor history.
[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's something to talk about.
[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_06]: I think if he makes it to the end, he would have a good chance to win the game,
[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_06]: because when you win a bunch of immunities, you don't have to betray a lot of people either.
[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_06]: But one person who would find that really hard to deal with, who would be fighting tooth and nail to keep that from happening would be Puyo's next pick Sue.
[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Puyo D.
[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_06]: She hates Kyle.
[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Does she?
[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like they've not shown that on the show.
[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a secret scene.
[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_06]: She alluded to hating Kyle.
[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_06]: She said you'll miss it.
[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_06]: There was a whole montage in this last episode.
[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was funny is half of the next time on last the week before as well was just the montage from this week.
[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so funny that these two are not on the same page at all pretty much from the get go and are still both here still cohabitating.
[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_09]: It's a little bit of like the Ned Flanders thing a little bit unless he's calling them Tweedledee and Tweedledum.
[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Although that does sound like an insult that Ned Flanders might use.
[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_09]: That sounds like an exact thing Ned Flanders would say.
[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, you wouldn't. It's too mean for Ned Flanders.
[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_06]: No, but the deedly part is right there.
[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a twiddly deedly, twiddly joke is Ned Flanders.
[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_09]: That is true.
[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_09]: But definitely the edit we're getting is like Kyle is like I hate him more than anything in the world.
[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_09]: It cuts to Kyle and he's the most like unassuming, like innocuous person you've ever seen in your life, which is, it's sad for Kyle, but it is hilarious.
[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_06]: But Sue is 45.
[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_06]: She's so she's an older woman in this game.
[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Taryn, what do you think about her and this beef, but also her, you know, her ability to win the game at this point?
[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_11]: She's not winning this.
[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_11]: This this this the edit is not there.
[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_11]: It hasn't been there for a while.
[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_11]: But like also that kind of montage, especially when we're supposed to kind of like Kyle, I think was definitely not meant to set her up for success in terms of perception.
[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_11]: So, yeah, I don't think it's happening.
[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_11]: I will say I feel very good about my two picks after like losing out on teeny Sam and Rachel getting Genevieve and Kyle over basically the field there.
[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_11]: I feel very good about.
[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. Well, those are literally the two next people in the game.
[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's well, yeah, I feel like to me, so assuming someone who's had an idol for forever now and we're just not seeing for me, I'm not seeing enough of Sue's thoughts on where the direction of things should go.
[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like initially it looked like, OK, Sue was kind of the main character of this of this alliance.
[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And then we got to merge and it promptly flipped to this is Caroline's alliance and Sue is in it.
[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And that really that shift combined with the fact that all we're getting from Sue is, oh, yeah, let's let's hear back from Sue.
[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Sue, I hate Kyle. All right. Back to the studio.
[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. Yeah, that's all we're getting from Sue right now.
[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm about to end up with the very similar trajectory of where I was last season, which is probably third place at best is where Sue's headed.
[01:08:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. The great player average draft placement.
[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. Well, that is true. But we're going to get to the spreadsheet.
[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, if you were Rob, you know, last season, you could still win.
[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Shannon, we haven't talked about the dirt. Sue's contouring with this dirt.
[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_06]: You are a former model. Tell me about it. Do you support this in Survivor?
[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_06]: This is this is like the best of both worlds for you as a survivor. It's modeling its makeup.
[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Let's let's talk about it. I don't love modeling and makeup.
[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know how to contour, but I know not to do that.
[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, it's the same way when people are like we can't talk about Survivor because we've not been on.
[01:08:39] [SPEAKER_09]: But like I know what not to do.
[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_09]: I know. That's how I feel about the contouring.
[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I think for contouring, you would probably need a mirror. I think that's very specific.
[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_09]: And like makeup.
[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_11]: Hot take. I like it.
[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_09]: OK. Oh, let's get on that.
[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_09]: OK.
[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Why? What about it?
[01:08:57] [SPEAKER_11]: You don't like paint war lines on your face to like look good.
[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_11]: You know what I mean? Like, I think it looks cool.
[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_09]: She's not trying to look good. So that's why it's...
[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_09]: She's trying to look good.
[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_11]: I guess what I'm saying, you're not doing like war lines to be like for like, you know, to be like, oh, I'm adhering to beauty standards.
[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_11]: You do it because it looks cool.
[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_11]: And I like the aesthetic.
[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, she she does look like she's playing Survivor.
[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think that's one thing we might have lost in the new era since they're only there for a couple of days.
[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Is that like Sue looks like she's been playing the game. OK, she's been playing the game.
[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_06]: So I love Sue.
[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_06]: She's been a fun character.
[01:09:32] [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, I think you'd have to squint really hard to see a world where she wins the game.
[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, crazier things have happened.
[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_06]: We've seen some crazy wins in the new era.
[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_06]: We have we have seen some crazy things in the new era.
[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I guess that is.
[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_09]: This is what this is the worst part about Gabler's win is that now nothing has meaning.
[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Nothing's like, well, they can't do that.
[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_09]: But Gabler did it. It's like, well, then there's no there's no bar or context to anything we've never done.
[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Also, I mean, there is no answer.
[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_09]: I will say winning the new era. I just want to.
[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_06]: No, no.
[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Listen, we're just we're all just making fun here.
[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_06]: But the Erica win was not something that was telegraphed.
[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Taryn had a great pick and a lot of people did not see that coming.
[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm just saying that you're the way that they've been.
[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_06]: And it would be OK.
[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_06]: So we'll see what happens there.
[01:10:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Would it be crazy than Gabler at this point?
[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_06]: It would just be another crazy thing that happened as far as I'm concerned, you know,
[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_06]: just like chalk it up to the new era.
[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_06]: That said, Liana had a pick that I thought was fine in the moment.
[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_06]: But she might have picked one of the most popular Survivor contestants we've seen in a while.
[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Because the Saul pick.
[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, people are talking about universally beloved.
[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, if Andy has to go up against somebody to come back for Survivor 50, I think he's going to have a run for his money
[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_06]: if he's trying to win a popularity contest against Saul.
[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Puyo, what did you think about the Saul pick in the moment?
[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_06]: And how do you feel like it has aged since that day?
[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_02]: A little behind the scenes.
[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_02]: While we were making our coffees before getting on the draft, Liana and I were kind of like talking back and forth what our thoughts were generally.
[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_09]: And we know that's not cool.
[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, listen, y'all can message each other or you can call me.
[01:11:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll allow it.
[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_02]: No one wants to talk to me, but my wife.
[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_11]: I think until two of us live together, you're going to have to separate.
[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Is that another asterisk?
[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Put the asterisk on both of them.
[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Asterisk for Booyah, asterisk for Liana.
[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_06]: That's just, it's not cool.
[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_09]: You guys are like Robin and Abba coming back and winners of war together.
[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_09]: Like it's cute, but is it allowed?
[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_06]: But should it be allowed?
[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, so tell me what happened when y'all talked, when y'all pre-gamed about Saul.
[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we pre-gamed the draft.
[01:11:31] [SPEAKER_02]: So what happened was we both realized we're higher on Saul than what we've heard a lot of people be.
[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Because a lot of people were like, I'm not seeing it.
[01:11:39] [SPEAKER_02]: He's talking about having this energy.
[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Where's the energy?
[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I knew going in that we both like him.
[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_02]: So when I picked Tiana and Liana has this very audible reaction that she wanted Tiana, I was like, I feel kind of bad, you know.
[01:11:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So we're getting to the backswing here.
[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking at the floor remaining.
[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I want Saul.
[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_02]: No.
[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not about to do this to Liana again.
[01:12:00] [SPEAKER_02]: No.
[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to pick Sue.
[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's not cool.
[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.
[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Why?
[01:12:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Why is it not Shannon?
[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Because when we committed to doing the draft, we said we would put it before anything in our lives, including our spouses.
[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay?
[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_09]: I didn't sign a contract.
[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_09]: I didn't sign a contract.
[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have the contract?
[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_12]: Genuinely?
[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: No, I've been off the books, I guess.
[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Sam, what's going on?
[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Why doesn't we have you?
[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_06]: If we didn't get the contract, then his win is null.
[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that's in the fine print.
[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_06]: You have to assign this in blood.
[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait, so you let a pick go for-
[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[01:12:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Jenna could not understand what's happening.
[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know.
[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to tell you a true story.
[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_09]: One time I was playing-
[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_11]: This is how D won.
[01:12:44] This is how D won.
[01:12:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Literally.
[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, actually, Puyo-
[01:12:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You called me Austin?
[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Austin here?
[01:12:49] [SPEAKER_02]: You got Austin!
[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you?
[01:12:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, low key, I mean, look, though.
[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Saul left Sue still there.
[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So, like, I-
[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a moral victory.
[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_09]: Puyo, you shouldn't give up a better pick for Liana that you want.
[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_09]: One time I was playing Exploding Kittens with Peter, and I put the-
[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Does anyone have to play Exploding Kittens?
[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_06]: No.
[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, it's really good.
[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_09]: But I put the bomb back in a place where Peter immediately would go.
[01:13:10] [SPEAKER_09]: And it was like a big game.
[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_09]: He's like, now I'm going to have to sit out for like an hour.
[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Why did you do that?
[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_09]: I was like, it was strategically optimal.
[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_09]: He was like, you don't always have to do the strategically optimal thing.
[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_09]: And I was like, I don't understand what you're saying right now.
[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like you're speaking a different language.
[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_09]: And we went back and forth and it was a legitimate argument.
[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_09]: So I just- I don't get it, Puyo.
[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I respect your marriage, but I don't understand it.
[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_09]: I think that's where I'm at with it.
[01:13:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think ultimately, for me, I was like, it's gonna-
[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I want her to have Saul.
[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And like, I'm okay with that.
[01:13:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm content.
[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: What?
[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Why not?
[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Is that true love?
[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what's funny?
[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what's funny though?
[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So if like, let's say I found out, I was watching Taryn's stream where he was like going through the pet peeves.
[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_02]: If I find out that Taryn really likes someone that I kind of like, but I'm not seeing it as much.
[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like me and Taryn left and I feel good about like the other person.
[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine to have Taryn get his.
[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: What?
[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_12]: What are you saying right now?
[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_11]: You know what, Puyo?
[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm with you.
[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_11]: That's why I sometimes ask Shannon which one she would prefer.
[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[01:14:05] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm trying to trick her, but I'm actually just letting her take one.
[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And you give her who she wants.
[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we saw you give her who she wants that one time.
[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_09]: No, because that was to mess with my mind.
[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_02]: This is how she rationalizes it in her brain.
[01:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You think we're here to scam and deceive?
[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_02]: We're just trying to draft and banter.
[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_02]: That's really what the truth is.
[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_09]: We just don't understand any of you.
[01:14:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Like the fact that you guys, you care so little and you've all won.
[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Like it's just not fair, but we're going to get to the spreadsheet.
[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_06]: I definitely bowed out at one point to make sure that Puyo could get Venus for sure.
[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I was like, hey.
[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_06]: You did.
[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You did let me get Venus cause she's Persian.
[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_02]: That's my guy right there.
[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I understand that's important and I'm still against it.
[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_06]: But you see how we're able to do that and still win, you know, you might want to take
[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_06]: some notes.
[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_06]: So moving on, we have my pick, Caroline.
[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was down to picking Caroline or Kishan and I really couldn't decide because neither
[01:14:54] [SPEAKER_06]: one of them was that low on my list, but neither of them stood out.
[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I remember going over her bio and saying like, she feels like very middle of the road.
[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, and that's solid, right?
[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Back in the day, we look for those type of players, like the ones who kind of just blend
[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_06]: in.
[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I said, let's go for it.
[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_06]: And I am so happy with this pick.
[01:15:11] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't, I don't know how she could win.
[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I don't really see that, like how the, how the pieces line up.
[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_06]: But if she does, man, I would be so proud of this, this win.
[01:15:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Caroline has been a good character throughout finding herself in that alliance with Gabe early
[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_06]: on.
[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_06]: She's been very social.
[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_06]: A lot of people want to play with Caroline.
[01:15:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Caroline, she makes a big flip this time.
[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_06]: She seems like she's strategically tapped in.
[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know, Shannon.
[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_06]: I know you said my team is like the fourth most likely to win, but Caroline and Sue and
[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Sam.
[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I think they're fine.
[01:15:41] [SPEAKER_06]: You don't think Caroline can win the game?
[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I would put a her and Sam some version of fourth and fifth, but I don't think them
[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_09]: combined even gets to the level of the top three for me.
[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_09]: If that makes sense.
[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_09]: I've got like Rachel, Teenie, Andy Gap, Caroline Gap, Genevieve, Kyle Sue.
[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_09]: So like even combining that, but like, yeah, I think you have two possible options.
[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't think they're ruled out fully for me, but I like heavily favor the first three.
[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_09]: If that makes sense.
[01:16:07] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, look between Caroline and Kishon and I felt pretty even about them too.
[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_09]: You have someone in the game who does have, I think some win potential.
[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know that the edit is usually there for Caroline and I love Caroline.
[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_09]: I think position right now isn't amazing based on how this Gabe vote went.
[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_09]: I didn't agree with the move.
[01:16:23] [SPEAKER_09]: And then I also think the perception, you know, it's like it's Gabe as a juror.
[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_09]: He thinks to respect Caroline a little bit more, but it's been the wounded birds perception.
[01:16:30] [SPEAKER_09]: And even someone like Tiana, who's not on the jury, but she comes out in the exit interview
[01:16:33] [SPEAKER_09]: and was so like, yeah, they were his wounded birds.
[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like, is that how you guys all still think and what the jury might've thought?
[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Because I don't agree and I hate it.
[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, and I'm concerned for her if so.
[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_09]: So those are my question marks, but I love Caroline.
[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_09]: I'd like to see it happen.
[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, I'd rather have her than Kishon.
[01:16:50] [SPEAKER_09]: She'll at least on placement versus the chance as well.
[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's, it's pretty good, but I recall you, uh, being very much like, well, I don't understand any of you.
[01:17:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Why would you leave me to Sean?
[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_02]: You are all idiots.
[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, no, no, that's not, that's not, that's not what happened.
[01:17:06] [SPEAKER_09]: No, it sounds like it.
[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_09]: I think she called me twiddled me.
[01:17:08] [SPEAKER_06]: She called you twiddled dumb.
[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[01:17:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[01:17:11] [SPEAKER_09]: I felt fine about both.
[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_09]: Like I didn't hugely stand out about either.
[01:17:16] [SPEAKER_09]: I wasn't like, he was a top pick for me.
[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_09]: And that's where I was with boys.
[01:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think without a shadow of a doubt, Chappelle, I think Caroline was the seal of the draft.
[01:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I think no debates had, I think being one of the last two picks here, someone who even Shannon by your metric, if she's like, there's a drop and she's four or five contender.
[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_02]: That's top five or five baby.
[01:17:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's really good.
[01:17:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And I, again, I do think coming into the midway point of the season, I didn't know what her story was, but the first couple episodes of the merge, I was like, oh my God, has this been Caroline's story all along?
[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And we're about to see a win happen.
[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That has dropped for me.
[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, the last couple of weeks, a little bit of a drop now.
[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But I've been loving what I'm seeing.
[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like her energy is infectious.
[01:18:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Watching her cheer on everybody for small accomplishment.
[01:18:04] [SPEAKER_02]: This is who Andy wanted from the get go.
[01:18:06] [SPEAKER_02]: This is who Andy wanted at the coconuts.
[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Why isn't she being mean to people?
[01:18:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[01:18:13] [SPEAKER_06]: She, she got some Chappelle energy, man.
[01:18:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I am a cheerleader to hear throughout for all the people that I'm rooting for everybody except Shannon here.
[01:18:20] [SPEAKER_06]: But Pouya, I have to imagine, you know, Caroline wins this.
[01:18:23] [SPEAKER_06]: This would be like one of those, like, it feels like almost like a come from behind victory, even though she's never really been at the bottom.
[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, it felt like there was moments where she could have been at the bottom.
[01:18:31] [SPEAKER_06]: But the moment she links up with Sue, the moment she links up with Gabe, they really have just been running that, that tribe.
[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_06]: And now, you know, in the, in the previews, it's looking like there might be a shift.
[01:18:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe there's another five forming and Caroline might be in the number.
[01:18:45] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm not, I'm kind of, like I said, I'm very high on this pick, even though it was so low on my draft list.
[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I don't think you can counter up by any means.
[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_06]: At all.
[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Aaron, if you don't win the draft with one of your three picks, you're rooting for my team, right?
[01:19:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Caroline, Sam, you gotta be right.
[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm second in your rankings.
[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I don't care about any of us.
[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_09]: He's like, hold on, hold on.
[01:19:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Let them speak.
[01:19:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Let them talk.
[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm rooting for teeny more than me and Andy.
[01:19:15] [SPEAKER_11]: It's gotta be teeny.
[01:19:16] [SPEAKER_11]: Come on.
[01:19:17] [SPEAKER_12]: Why?
[01:19:17] [SPEAKER_11]: Because I know teeny more than I know the rest of them.
[01:19:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Rooting for the person who voted out Asia is crazy.
[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Rooting for the person who voted out Asia.
[01:19:25] [SPEAKER_06]: You see it.
[01:19:27] [SPEAKER_06]: That Mount Rushmore means a lot less now.
[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Speaking of people who voted out Asia, your last pick Shannon.
[01:19:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you didn't really have a choice at this point, but I did give you the option to go
[01:19:36] [SPEAKER_06]: before me and you did not.
[01:19:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Kashawn, how do you think things went for Kashawn?
[01:19:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Because I would say valiant effort and a decent exit edit wise.
[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_06]: It was kind of cool.
[01:19:47] [SPEAKER_09]: I will say the, his boot episode was a roller coaster.
[01:19:51] [SPEAKER_09]: There's been a lot of roller coasters, but it was like, oh, he's emerged and he might
[01:19:54] [SPEAKER_09]: win.
[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_09]: And that would be great for me.
[01:19:56] [SPEAKER_09]: And then he was out.
[01:19:58] [SPEAKER_09]: So that, you know, like in the space of 30 minutes, he emerged and then was cut.
[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_09]: I was like the first two episodes.
[01:20:04] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, you know, he got like an establishing confessional.
[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_09]: I was deluding myself a little bit.
[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Didn't go great.
[01:20:10] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, the fact that Rob and I were trading boots for the first four episodes and no one
[01:20:14] [SPEAKER_09]: had lost anyone was not how I intended to start.
[01:20:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that was like, that was the consolation prize that first month.
[01:20:21] [SPEAKER_02]: We're like, I, we lost Asia.
[01:20:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm very sad, but the draft boards looking at least so sweet.
[01:20:27] [SPEAKER_09]: At least it wasn't fun.
[01:20:28] [SPEAKER_09]: I wasn't enjoying it.
[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, yeah.
[01:20:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Kashawn's one of, uh, uh, Genevieve's most memorable, uh, victims for sure.
[01:20:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, I think that's when we saw that the new era editing is getting, it's getting kind
[01:20:39] [SPEAKER_06]: of spicy too.
[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I love it.
[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, we got, yeah, Kashawn, he's, he's like in the back of Genevieve's mind.
[01:20:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And then she's like remembering like, oh, he did say that.
[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_09]: I can't believe it.
[01:20:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Also the second that happened, I knew he was gone.
[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_09]: And then I just had to watch it.
[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Of course.
[01:20:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[01:20:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[01:20:56] [SPEAKER_09]: And then for the next 20 minutes, I just had to sit and watch him get voted out and know
[01:20:59] [SPEAKER_09]: that I was losing my second person in a month.
[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_09]: And I was, I was really sad.
[01:21:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, and now I'm happy because of Rachel, but it's been a long time coming and I'm really
[01:21:08] [SPEAKER_09]: just, I'm glad that I got to come onto this draft at my most cocky and my most confident.
[01:21:14] [SPEAKER_09]: So yeah.
[01:21:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Having one player left would make me very confident.
[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Rachel the most likely to win.
[01:21:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Check the chat, check with the chat things.
[01:21:22] [SPEAKER_11]: Is this your worst average draft placement?
[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, so glad you asked.
[01:21:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, amazing segue.
[01:21:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Sam, bring it up.
[01:21:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Bring up the spreadsheet.
[01:21:28] [SPEAKER_06]: No, Sam, don't bring it up because we're, we're picking up on an hour and 20 minutes.
[01:21:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And I do have a podcast that I was very clear that I needed to go and do.
[01:21:35] [SPEAKER_06]: So we do have to start a round of this up for it.
[01:21:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it was a pretty simple question.
[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think we need a spreadsheet for it.
[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Shannon, it was a yes or no question.
[01:21:42] [SPEAKER_06]: It really was.
[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't know.
[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I have to check the spreadsheet.
[01:21:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Sam, I'll just guess.
[01:21:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Let's all just guess and say that it probably is.
[01:21:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, but this has been so much fun talking to y'all catching up.
[01:21:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And I really had to humble myself and come into this thinking like, okay, you're not
[01:21:56] [SPEAKER_06]: going to, Sam, we have to go.
[01:21:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I literally have to go, Sam.
[01:21:59] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not playing.
[01:22:00] [SPEAKER_06]: So listen, he really doesn't.
[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_09]: I know he has another 25 minutes.
[01:22:03] [SPEAKER_09]: I have a thing.
[01:22:04] [SPEAKER_09]: So listen.
[01:22:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, Rob's fact check is in the chat.
[01:22:07] [SPEAKER_09]: It's his spreadsheet.
[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Just tell, just tell.
[01:22:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Go follow Rob's fact checker and ask for the post.
[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It's there.
[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[01:22:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I have the spreadsheet open right now too.
[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I look at it.
[01:22:18] [SPEAKER_06]: He does.
[01:22:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Paul, this is a great plan.
[01:22:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I will read about the spreadsheet.
[01:22:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[01:22:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Without a very own podcast called survivor global.
[01:22:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Shannon, tell us what's coming up next on survivor global.
[01:22:30] [SPEAKER_09]: So glad you asked.
[01:22:31] [SPEAKER_09]: So if you look at the stats, is this my worst?
[01:22:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Or on survivor global ranking?
[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Is it not on the screen?
[01:22:38] [SPEAKER_09]: On survivor global.
[01:22:39] [SPEAKER_09]: People are losing the visual aid, but I will talk about it.
[01:22:41] [SPEAKER_11]: Her worst average draft placement was season 44.
[01:22:44] [SPEAKER_11]: This is her second worst.
[01:22:45] [SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
[01:22:45] [SPEAKER_06]: We have the answer.
[01:22:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Taryn.
[01:22:48] [SPEAKER_06]: We're currently 12 points.
[01:22:50] [SPEAKER_06]: It was a pleasure having you as well.
[01:22:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Taryn, please tell us where people can find you in the meantime.
[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_11]: Uh, find me on Twitch, you know, hanging out.
[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_11]: Uh, I've got a, a, a scripted show podcast and you know what I will say, you know, I said
[01:23:03] [SPEAKER_11]: I was rooting for teeny, but I will also say I'm actually very pleased with all of the
[01:23:07] [SPEAKER_11]: winning, winning contenders here.
[01:23:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[01:23:09] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm a huge fan of Rachel.
[01:23:11] [SPEAKER_11]: I do really like Sam.
[01:23:12] [SPEAKER_11]: Um, and, uh, and I'm, I'm like very, very pleased I think with, with most outcomes
[01:23:17] [SPEAKER_11]: this season.
[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[01:23:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm a fan of all our potential winners here.
[01:23:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Pouya.
[01:23:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I know you're loving this season.
[01:23:23] [SPEAKER_06]: What else are you working on in the meantime as well?
[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Chappelle, I'm loving a lot of seasons of television right now.
[01:23:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So Robert has been very near and dear lovely this year.
[01:23:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, both seasons actually, I feel like I've nailed it, but I've been watching Traders
[01:23:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Canada and that has been so good.
[01:23:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Scali and I were talking about how we think this is in our top three of all.
[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I just caught up.
[01:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You did.
[01:23:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there we go.
[01:23:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Taryn.
[01:23:43] [SPEAKER_11]: My favorite trader season.
[01:23:45] [SPEAKER_11]: I've watched.
[01:23:45] [SPEAKER_11]: There we go.
[01:23:46] [SPEAKER_11]: Taryn.
[01:23:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Better than UK one.
[01:23:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Cause UK one.
[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_06]: They were insane.
[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Those people.
[01:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: It beats the US ones by far.
[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So Taryn you're on point for that.
[01:23:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Aaron, those people, they thought those people were literally getting murdered in that castle
[01:23:58] [SPEAKER_06]: and you cannot tell me different.
[01:24:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, what else you got Pouya?
[01:24:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, 90 day fiance has been good.
[01:24:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Scali is actually joining me for a double header this week.
[01:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about that.
[01:24:06] [SPEAKER_02]: That season's also been a lot of fun.
[01:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And Liana and I are doing our mass singer coverage.
[01:24:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, last season of mass singer that we're covering ever before we move on to a different project
[01:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: that's coming soon.
[01:24:16] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[01:24:17] [SPEAKER_06]: And Shannon, you have 30 seconds.
[01:24:20] [SPEAKER_06]: The draft, the graphics.
[01:24:22] [SPEAKER_06]: You have 30 seconds and I will silence a woman.
[01:24:26] [SPEAKER_09]: No, people want this.
[01:24:28] [SPEAKER_09]: This podcast is ending.
[01:24:30] [SPEAKER_09]: This podcast is ending in the next two minutes.
[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Go.
[01:24:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, Sam.
[01:24:35] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm mad at you.
[01:24:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Taryn.
[01:24:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you.
[01:24:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[01:24:38] [SPEAKER_09]: 20 seconds.
[01:24:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Chappelle, please let me, please let me go through this.
[01:24:42] [SPEAKER_09]: If you see on the number of first place for average draft places, I have three of seven
[01:24:47] [SPEAKER_09]: seasons.
[01:24:48] [SPEAKER_09]: That's crazy.
[01:24:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Not to mention two times.
[01:24:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Five of seven seasons in the top two is insane.
[01:24:53] [SPEAKER_09]: This one hasn't gone as well.
[01:24:55] [SPEAKER_09]: And 44 didn't go as well.
[01:24:56] [SPEAKER_09]: But if you see no one else even has more than one average draft placement, first place.
[01:25:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Everyone else has more than zero wins.
[01:25:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Everyone has this one thing that mattered though.
[01:25:07] [SPEAKER_06]: So Shannon, thank you for sharing that with us.
[01:25:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Look at this.
[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_06]: What else are you working on?
[01:25:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Look at these guys.
[01:25:12] [SPEAKER_09]: I have tweeted them before.
[01:25:13] [SPEAKER_09]: So do everyone see.
[01:25:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Again, Rob's fact checker on Blue Sky Twitter, Instagram, great follow.
[01:25:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And this is a great spreadsheet.
[01:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to them for keeping it updated.
[01:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It is kind of funny.
[01:25:22] [SPEAKER_11]: If you look at the order for this season, it's the reverse order of the overall ratings.
[01:25:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, the draft order?
[01:25:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[01:25:30] [SPEAKER_06]: What do you mean?
[01:25:32] [SPEAKER_11]: For the average draft placement right now is one, two, three, four, five in the opposite
[01:25:36] [SPEAKER_11]: direction of the leaderboard.
[01:25:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[01:25:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[01:25:40] [SPEAKER_06]: And Shannon, thank you for sharing that.
[01:25:42] [SPEAKER_06]: And for me, you can catch me here on RHAP talking about the summit with Taryn on RHAP
[01:25:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Scripted talking about the sex lives of college girls talking about House of Villains
[01:25:53] [SPEAKER_06]: with Jenny Autumn.
[01:25:54] [SPEAKER_06]: And then on my podcast, Recap Kick Back with Mari every week talking about various different
[01:25:58] [SPEAKER_06]: things, Christmas movies, black stuff, entertainment news, all that good stuff.
[01:26:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And then, of course, here with my friends here on the RHAP Survivor Draft next season,
[01:26:07] [SPEAKER_06]: when that comes around, hopefully our other draftees will be back to join us.
[01:26:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Liana, Asia, and of course, Rob.
[01:26:13] [SPEAKER_06]: But until then, we will have to catch you all next time.
[01:26:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Make sure you tune in for these last few episodes.
[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Catch us in Houston next week.
[01:26:19] [SPEAKER_06]: And then be ready for the part two.
[01:26:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I was meant to plug something.
[01:26:23] [SPEAKER_06]: But I was-
[01:26:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I'd asked you to do that 12 times.
[01:26:25] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but you didn't put up the spreadsheet.
[01:26:27] [SPEAKER_06]: No, 12 times.
[01:26:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[01:26:29] [SPEAKER_09]: All right.
[01:26:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Done with that.
[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_09]: The spreadsheet was great.
[01:26:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Sam asked me to plug that when you guys are all in Houston having fun, I'm going to
[01:26:36] [SPEAKER_09]: be having my own fun with Evie on the after show.
[01:26:38] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm meant to plug it.
[01:26:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Hey!
[01:26:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Supporters of average draft placement, supporters of me.
[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_09]: I think we need to support you.
[01:26:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you to all the supporters of everybody and all of us.
[01:26:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[01:26:59] [SPEAKER_09]: If you're supporting anyone else, what are you doing?
[01:27:01] [SPEAKER_09]: What are you doing?
[01:27:01] [SPEAKER_06]: There's one good guy here.
[01:27:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's me.
[01:27:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you all so much.
[01:27:05] [SPEAKER_06]: We'll talk to you all next time.
[01:27:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Peace!
[01:27:06] [SPEAKER_07]: It's time for another fallout.