Survivor 46 | RHAP B&B Ep 6 with Dwight Moore

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[00:03:05] Is the RHA. You can say for free. Hi everybody and welcome to the RHAP B&B for episode 6 of Survivor 46.

[00:03:17] My name is Mike Bloom, 5'10", for those of you that are wondering and I'm here breaking down

[00:03:23] mergetory of this season as we'll talk about the moe and MOE I should say of all 13 players

[00:03:31] as we move both from the last stage of the game and kind of into the next one in this weird kind

[00:03:36] of literal purgatorial state where anything goes except it will almost always feature some woman

[00:03:42] that's kind of on the bottom of one of the big alliances getting voted out. But we have a lot

[00:03:46] of stuff to break down as finally these three tribes are meeting and I'm so excited to bring

[00:03:53] this person back to the podcast after a one week Yadis. She is back taking her spot as the

[00:03:58] co-owner of the B&B. I definitely will not be asking you are you new Leona Boris?

[00:04:05] I jerk bean knew though. So yeah look I am so so happy to be back obviously thank you to the

[00:04:12] mess magnets and you Mike for holding down the fort last week it was so fun the swapping

[00:04:18] the faces game is always a blast. I immediately had to jump to YouTube to see what crazy

[00:04:23] creations were made so thank you for that but let's get into it. It's my favorite time of a

[00:04:30] survivor season seeing everybody come together the new dynamics the new relationships how are

[00:04:35] things going to play out with the I guess I was gonna say merge tribe I'm still not used to this

[00:04:41] migratory thing or whatever but look they're together they're hanging out some of them are

[00:04:45] eating some of them are not and we're gonna talk through all of it. Well we'll certainly

[00:04:48] be eating today with our guest and I would call him my favorite survivor player parentheses who

[00:04:55] streams blood on the clock tower and goose goose duck weekly so excited to welcome back to the B&B

[00:04:59] Jwight Moore. Yeah thank you for having me I'm excited to talk about this episode again you know

[00:05:04] we're slightly triggering the migratory is a chaotic time but now I'm super excited to

[00:05:08] talk about this this is very it's honestly so chaotic those two days of migratory so that

[00:05:14] has been extremely meant to show on air is to give it some sort of breathing room and I'm excited

[00:05:18] to you know discuss what happened. Yeah so Jwight the last time you were on RHAP was obviously under

[00:05:24] different guys's you were the inaugural member I believe of the new version of tWish like 3.04.0

[00:05:31] at this point so a lot has happened from the days of Jalinsky to him coming around again with

[00:05:37] the title episode several I believe is going to be next. Is that the official because I know it's

[00:05:44] the minor placeholder that's the official title? I believe that's the official title is episode

[00:05:47] several. I love that I want to know who said I wonder if they've been said or just yeah we're

[00:05:52] just putting this in there. Someone sitting on a tree not only notching in the days but also

[00:05:56] counting the episode cycles being like okay this will air on April 3rd 2024. I mean like it's

[00:06:04] not hard to track the episodes like it's a new era some fans can realize like literally when I was

[00:06:09] out there I did the same thing I was like oh this is probably episode five six because you know the

[00:06:11] boot order you know what's gonna be like it it makes I could see someone saying it I just who

[00:06:16] would say it actually. I would say Moe but now you know who also would say that? Well I'm trying

[00:06:21] to think of who made the jokes about several after Jalinsky was voted out it was Charlie

[00:06:26] Hunter right? Well Hunter Hunter did the last name first out yeah but Charlie did the call

[00:06:31] back to several so he's top of my list if it is actually said or if this is just uh the editors

[00:06:38] were like we have to do this. I hope I really hope it's the latter there's just let's just have fun

[00:06:43] with this and do could I have even episode titles not in said in such a long time right?

[00:06:48] It's not something you did that. Yeah I don't know Mike. It's been a long time yeah that we

[00:06:52] haven't had like a direct quote and it sort of has unfortunately cut in some bad directions

[00:06:56] where we've gotten like how many titles of oh Survivor's a steering wheel or you know

[00:07:02] Blind Sides are yummy just like basically Mad Libs find and replace I can only think of

[00:07:08] the last time I mean he certainly had Jeff quotes be used which I guess is sort of

[00:07:13] the halfway point but we haven't had actual like well nobody really said anything of

[00:07:17] value so let's throw episode several in there. I can tell you three people that wouldn't

[00:07:22] call it episode several and it would be those three people that were standing next to

[00:07:25] Jolinsky on the purple mat when he said it's seven of me several. You know what Q is on my

[00:07:32] top mind list now episode several come from Q surely because he got the what was the the one about

[00:07:37] the wackadoo's win or whatever yeah he got wackadoo's win he did get this past week as well with

[00:07:42] and listen we're gonna get into a lot of Q stuff I think I've sort of come to my own conclusion

[00:07:46] that Q low key might be one of my favorite characters this season we'll get into it but

[00:07:51] I love just how incredibly intense he can be in all emotional directions including in this episode

[00:07:58] when he's like you know if Mariah thinks she can try to screw me over she'll have to cancel

[00:08:03] Christmas which I don't know if that's a southern aphorism but I don't understand the logic in it.

[00:08:09] I haven't heard that one before maybe I just I don't know that one's just new to me I'm

[00:08:15] just like uh sure cool but I think I got my parents they heard that because maybe it's just

[00:08:20] like an age thing I don't know I haven't heard it. I'm I'm also excited to talk about Q okay well

[00:08:31] what are we doing what are we doing here Mike what do we talk about first when can I talk about

[00:08:34] Q because I also this is well this is uh this is mergeatory so anything goes as we said but we

[00:08:38] will ultimately settle on a couple of conclusions I mean Leona you talk about this being a

[00:08:42] highly anticipated event even though it is a little bit of like a half cocked measure of

[00:08:48] we're not even technically merged yet people get their buffs halfway through the episode and then

[00:08:52] it's only half the cast hell even next episode it doesn't really feel like a merge either because

[00:08:56] we're basically going back into true tribe for that episode but how did this measure up for you

[00:09:01] because certainly the pre-merge narrative with the exception of last week was really all about

[00:09:06] Yanu now Nami finally gets to vote we'll see if the seagulls remain this unified front

[00:09:11] after the gem blind side how did this measure up to you I did feel okay so obviously I'm very excited

[00:09:17] about it but I almost still felt like more more more more like the offhanded moment oh

[00:09:22] mo mo mo baby like the fact that hunter makes a comment about oh soda hates li or

[00:09:28] Liz hates soda and soda hates Venus I'm like where like help me more well we saw so hates

[00:09:36] Venus during that time that hunter happened to be digging for the cake oh my god oh that too

[00:09:41] this was like that blue balls episode because it was like okay sorry I'm really excited about

[00:09:45] this because I wanted more of that conversation I was like care about the idol go back to the

[00:09:48] conversation like I want to see what's happening I don't think hunter is gonna find it it's

[00:09:52] gonna be fine but this conversation I really really wanted to see so in fact we didn't get that

[00:09:58] yeah that was a little frustrated but at least we got some some initial inklings I think the

[00:10:02] way that especially sega conducted themselves as a group was very interesting to see like okay

[00:10:08] we're gonna present this unified front why like why would you present a unified front like doesn't

[00:10:15] that just make you guys the bigger targets so that was a very weird decision then mo throwing out

[00:10:19] all of a sudden at the tribal that she was on the bottom was all very interesting and a lot of

[00:10:23] sort of in my opinion like questionable the very interesting decisions yeah Dwight obviously

[00:10:29] you are someone that has gone through the mergetory process will certainly compare and contrast a lot

[00:10:33] was this behavior expected on your part considering that you yourself have been in

[00:10:38] this situation from the standpoint of the segas it's intriguing so when we hit mergetory in our

[00:10:44] season it was we had pretty even numbers four four and five on the tribes theirs had what three

[00:10:51] four five five five five five yeah so I think segas plan there might have just been let's

[00:10:57] let's look unified and try and get yanu to us take out nomi the issue being nomi also

[00:11:02] terrified was just fractured on their face and if you're like yanu is going to be a tight three

[00:11:07] coming into an either one you know they've survived they've gone through hell together so

[00:11:09] they're gonna be very tight so from yon's perspective I don't think they anticipated that

[00:11:13] they probably expect they're gonna come with us to type five more together but long term that

[00:11:17] makes no sense for yanu because then once they're all gone it's then five be three so I think

[00:11:22] they did not think I think long term enough for what is this group that's we're gonna do

[00:11:26] we're gonna go with the fractured five or the solid five that's gonna ride together till the end

[00:11:30] and I think I just misplayed that as a group like strategy wise of course you want to go into

[00:11:35] the merge tell me tribe let's act like i'm gonna work together because you don't want anyone to

[00:11:38] say your name so I think amongst themselves have probably said let's just not steal his name

[00:11:42] out there but then they stuck to it a bit too long yeah and I do think from an episodic

[00:11:49] perspective listen the narrative was fairly straightforward and we can get into that about

[00:11:53] how ironically the openness of mergetory kind of handcuffs the player sometimes to be like all

[00:11:58] right well there's only a couple of options we're ultimately going to decide between because

[00:12:01] the name of the game is to just survive and make it to an actual stable stage but I did think

[00:12:07] looking back it was an interestingly seated storyline over the course of the episode as to

[00:12:12] leading to this ultimate outcome of okay the yon news are gonna side with nami to take out

[00:12:18] the more unified seagas and to look at some of the rigamarola took place before the mergetory

[00:12:23] challenge things like for example venus and tevin already throwing each other under the bus where

[00:12:29] venus starts telling tevany openly like you cannot go to the final three with tevin or

[00:12:33] whole win they tell that to tevin and tevin's like I told you that girl was no good since

[00:12:38] the beginning compare that to q with this big idea for this cross tribal alliance approaches tim

[00:12:44] and tim's like I'll get to it tomorrow don't worry about it like the I get tim's logic of you

[00:12:51] know you don't want to be too open about it especially during this day purgatorial period

[00:12:56] where you don't know what the teams are going to shake out you don't want to necessarily throw a

[00:12:59] target out there unless you can hit it but the way that I think it came across to q was like

[00:13:04] okay this is clearly not a preference of yours your preference is the seagas over any type of

[00:13:11] breaking from the norm that you would want and so it was this I don't think it should be a hard

[00:13:15] and fast rule of like if you go into a merge situation you should always present yourself as

[00:13:20] fractured even if you're pretending to do so rob brought this up I think the example of 42 where

[00:13:25] marianne was clearly on the out to the takus but like they presented as a unified front as

[00:13:30] opposed to hey we're fine throwing lidya under the bus it doesn't necessarily matter those

[00:13:36] numbers were a little bit different but I think it really depends on the people you're playing

[00:13:40] with and what the opposition was doing in this case the people that you're playing with the yannous

[00:13:45] were looking to glom onto something and as much as maybe the reliability of the seagas would help

[00:13:50] in the short term it's clear they didn't want to be three in an eight person alliance and then

[00:13:54] two looking at nami they're presenting themselves as a very appealing option as like hey if we

[00:14:00] stick with them we could very clearly just take people on to our side hell teviden hunters seem

[00:14:05] like they're ready to jump to us asap right and I think that it's not it's not about okay

[00:14:13] yes there's a binary unified front non-unified front you can look at it that way but it's

[00:14:18] obviously much more nuanced that okay sure you can come across like somewhat of a unified front

[00:14:23] but there have to be some cracks and it felt like sega was giving nothing to anybody else

[00:14:30] it was just like nope no boat unanimously no problems here we love each other we're five block i'm just

[00:14:37] like yes great no but you're saying we're five block in a 13 person group like that's not going to fly

[00:14:43] for long and compare that to again nami who has never been to tribal council they get asked where

[00:14:49] are the cracks and they pull up the car laundry list yeah all the foundational uh you know mistakes

[00:14:56] within it and saying like yeah we're barely surviving at this point compared to ben and tim our

[00:15:00] asset the feast hey what's going on with sega and they're still like yeah i know it's been half the

[00:15:05] game and we just went to tribal council but really nothing on our ends i have a lot of thoughts on how

[00:15:10] the feast went when we get there oh my gosh well and that's a thing also with tim specifically

[00:15:16] because so all of sega is kind of presenting this unified front and ben is interesting because

[00:15:20] you know ben had that secret scene remember he just like didn't want to talk at all about

[00:15:24] like things so that maybe i just like a ben thing i i do without uh you know characterizing him too

[00:15:30] much i do kind of believe that's the case that i don't think this is necessarily the guy you're

[00:15:34] going to for intense strategy i think he's the vibes guy these vibes this rocks this doesn't rock

[00:15:39] right okay like we're playing some jazz whatever so whereas tim like tim has had a conversation

[00:15:45] with hunter and q being like brah like the boys we're doing this you know like we're coming up

[00:15:52] with the brigade strategy so then for tim to turn around in the group and even in one-on-one

[00:15:56] conversations with q just still be like nah like yeah i haven't gotten to it yet like clearly it's

[00:16:01] not a top priority so again you're still giving like even if you again sega comes across a unified

[00:16:06] front but then tim is go on girl give us nothing if you're q right so it's yeah it just felt

[00:16:13] like there's there why why would anybody want to work with sega after that great i think that

[00:16:18] getting to that point of been like about the tim hunter q cross tribal alliance the main thing about

[00:16:23] the cross tribe alliance it needs to be willing to sacrifice people from your tribe if you're just

[00:16:26] putting up a wall saying let's do cross tribals thing let's let's take out a yanu let's take a

[00:16:30] nomi then the yanu again just leave the ceasal alone like you're making very obvious that you

[00:16:34] just want to have options for yourself instead of saying like even just putting out there like

[00:16:39] okay you could take out someone from our tribe it's fine even if you don't really mean it

[00:16:42] you warn them later just verbally present to them it's okay like leave your options open

[00:16:45] but you gotta be more subtle in how you manipulate how the numbers are going i mean on that note

[00:16:51] because what you're suggesting jwight is basically for lack of a better term a name for a name

[00:16:55] and that brings us to i think one of the bigger characters of the episode someone who was at

[00:17:01] least personified up until the tribal council as someone that was certainly in the line of fire

[00:17:05] i think someone that people were predicting might have been our mergetory boot luckily she does

[00:17:10] survive here venus uh because there's been a lot of talk about you know was she doing the right thing

[00:17:18] did she have the right amount of tact especially with this seemingly last minute plan to say

[00:17:23] oh mariah is going hell no we gotta get some of these penises out of here so let's kick charlie

[00:17:29] off i mean again that's she gave some reasoning on social media but she explicitly said in the

[00:17:34] episode right like we got to get rid of a man and charlie's the only man that is vulnerable

[00:17:38] at this point even though again everyone sort of has their own inclinations outside of that

[00:17:43] liana give me your thoughts on all things venus in this episode well what i loved about venus's

[00:17:48] choice to essentially say like why mo right she's not a threat she can't jump like why bother

[00:17:54] so instead like let's go for a bigger target is a great read like that's a great take like

[00:18:01] why would you not do that i think it's the way that she presents the ideas and the way that

[00:18:07] she presents herself and we've seen this sort of throughout like you guys talked about it last

[00:18:11] week with the conversation with hunter where it's like why would i get rid of you you're my meat

[00:18:15] shield or whatever like very explicit thing she said it was like those are the inside thoughts

[00:18:20] those don't come out most stay inside and this was also one of those moments it was like okay and

[00:18:24] maybe don't say the penis thing out loud like just that stays on the inside like we don't

[00:18:28] outside story of my life that should go on my gravestone maybe don't say the penis

[00:18:33] thing out loud full bloom okay so yeah so you know i think again right like intuition right

[00:18:40] intuition right idea poorly executed yeah i think venus is a she has the right ideas

[00:18:49] right ideas but the delivery i think when she hit the merge beach like she knew she

[00:18:53] on the bottom of nami let's be clear like they made it very obvious it's the ground running

[00:18:56] start strides with every living breathing individual on the merge beach which great idea

[00:19:02] except when you hit the merge people are just it's like the start of the game again you just want

[00:19:07] to survive you don't want to stand out too much you don't want to stand out too little you don't

[00:19:10] want to be obviously scheming you don't want to be obviously just doing nothing you just want

[00:19:14] to do a little bit you know set your game up and she was setting her game up with everyone

[00:19:20] which when people start talking realize oh who we talked to and if the name like oh who

[00:19:24] we talked to a bit and if you're venus from every single living person you're gonna be like oh she's

[00:19:29] wasn't she meaning with me she was just trying to give me like everybody else you know like people

[00:19:33] compare nodes people go to their tribe your allies be like who we talked to and if you hear the

[00:19:37] same name over and over again from literally everyone it's gonna be a bit of a red flag because

[00:19:41] you have to think oh they're gaming hard you hear it every season someone's like oh they're

[00:19:44] gaming too hard at the start of the game you know they're gaming too hard on day one

[00:19:48] this is basically day one again and you gotta figure out what you gotta be subtle about

[00:19:51] if you're gonna do something like that try and hit everyone up and like you can say you're on the bottom

[00:19:55] um but i'm not sure if like the delivery like i'm on the bottom but hey let's just like telling every

[00:20:00] single person like also like let's get out of me or like your reasoning or whatever it's

[00:20:04] it's it's a bit it's the delivery may have been wrong but one thing I will say about venus as well

[00:20:09] is in terms of like working with being like she like her inside thoughts do not stay inside

[00:20:16] they break out of the house um but I personally I think that's not the worst thing to have in

[00:20:23] alexa like you're not gonna it's gonna be hard for them to blinds on you when they're just a

[00:20:27] tactful truthful person you're just like oh like when their behavior switches up you'll

[00:20:31] know when they're trying to lie to your blinds like that's someone who I feel like their

[00:20:36] behavior is so like loud and you know forthcoming and changing that's gonna be very predictable

[00:20:42] so I think that someone for me personally that's not the worst thing in the world to work with

[00:20:47] but unfortunately she managed to um become a target for literally everyone to try which is a

[00:20:53] mandatory people will jump on the target and if it's long as it's not them go for it keep keep

[00:21:00] doing too much keep doing it and don't let that name put yourself out there yeah I completely

[00:21:05] agree and I think Tiffany actually espouses this in the episode right of like well

[00:21:09] if it's a difference between the shiesty one and the quote-unquote knowledgeable one which maybe

[00:21:13] will get into a bit of stigmatizing against uh poor um Mariah who maybe had a bit of an

[00:21:17] astigmatism in her eye if you saw over the course of a couple of confessionals um but

[00:21:22] you know the shyciness of somebody is much more clockable invisible than for lack of a

[00:21:27] better term the devil you know is better than the devil you don't and even though

[00:21:30] Tiffany doesn't really know venus or mariah at this point it's something that is much more

[00:21:34] visible and something that can easily get taken care of because yes there might be people that

[00:21:39] will decide including Tiffany herself oh yeah venus is not getting votes in the end clearly from even

[00:21:44] an interpersonal social perspective she's ticking people off and so that's someone that we can easily

[00:21:50] bring along with us it's someone that yeah to your point if she is up to something

[00:21:56] she is going to make it abundantly clear she's gonna set off some fireworks spelling out in

[00:22:01] the sky this is my plan as opposed to maybe what they're perceiving mariah as which is like okay maybe

[00:22:08] she is someone that that appears to be you know not the hugest thread but like she knows the show

[00:22:14] we know how this uh you know metagame of the new era runs sometimes we're like these are the

[00:22:18] people you need to watch out for i i just love venus so much as it's been said so much this

[00:22:24] past week but like i feel like she is such a unique character in the new era uh she really

[00:22:30] does feel like a modern day courtney yates who doesn't have that todd and amanda alongside her to kind

[00:22:36] of like keep her in the inner circle because she is somebody that is consistently like trying to

[00:22:43] simultaneously like grab at all of branches but also break them at the same time by being like oh you

[00:22:48] don't want to do this i screw you i don't even want to be with you anyway uh even like the

[00:22:53] clearly joking thing she says of you know uh there's a secret scene where the losers are

[00:22:58] back at camp being like oh i wonder when they'll come back and be this is like i hope they never

[00:23:02] come back uh like clearly meant in jest but the way that she delivers it is so good and yeah that

[00:23:08] openness is that is the secret secret salt of a reality tv contest it's so crazy because like i

[00:23:13] remember her pregame price was like i want to play like sneaky i'm just like you're not sneaky

[00:23:17] you're playing with a sledgehammer stop it like yeah where where's the sneakiness in your game

[00:23:22] you're just outright saying to someone you're my meat shield i'm just like stop well i i please

[00:23:27] but i think it's this idea that we kind of saw with gem last week of a lot of these people

[00:23:32] due to the circumstances of yanu sitting on their hands for a good portion of the game like

[00:23:39] venus is somebody if you chart the course of the pre-merge she started off like in a relatively

[00:23:44] okay position as she'll talk about with soda in their brief argument you know they started off

[00:23:49] in an okay spot she felt like yes she was maybe coming across as a bit too standoffish

[00:23:54] but she was trying to worm her way in there and then it hit a point with her where she's like

[00:23:58] enough is enough they're not giving me the time of day so i'm not going to give them the time of

[00:24:02] day and so yeah when they got to the merge and she saw eight new faces she's like fantastic

[00:24:08] eight new friends in a manner of speaking we talk about social capital all the time venus

[00:24:13] is somebody who has been really making like pennies in terms of a social paycheck then

[00:24:18] gets a bonus at christmas and is like great i'm buying a house it's like i don't think

[00:24:22] that's where you should be putting your money yeah you might want to save that pocket that for a

[00:24:28] rainy day yeah i'm really curious to see like what the path forward is going to look like for her

[00:24:34] because i almost feel like one of two options she's gonna get voted out okay great consensus vote

[00:24:38] goodbye or it's like she just sort of exists in her own kind of little reality where like no

[00:24:44] one's really playing with her and she's just kind of like throwing out suggestions and like

[00:24:49] wanting to direct things but everybody's just kind of like no why would we do that

[00:24:52] i don't know like i'm just thinking how does she integrate into a group and then work with that

[00:24:58] group like i just i'm curious to know if that is even an option for her considering that

[00:25:04] she showed a big lesson when she was given a name and was basically told this ultimatum right of

[00:25:09] like it's her use to go with this name she responded with okay great suggestion no

[00:25:15] and so what does that present to other people that want to work with her of like okay it's going

[00:25:19] to be your way or the highway and you're barely building a highway at this point exactly that

[00:25:24] honestly like i don't hate the trying to make a move there like it like you can just sit down

[00:25:29] at the like i will say my kind of regret at mergetory myself is letting ellie go through

[00:25:36] i didn't want to go but like okay listen everyone's jump on this kind of follow it

[00:25:39] and i was like i was safe in that regard so i respect being us a lot for you know even heard

[00:25:44] names on the top block being like i don't like this move i want to make something else happen

[00:25:48] um so like i said i well it's like maybe not the ideal thing i respect the law because that's part

[00:25:54] one of my like major regrets is letting you know ellie vote go through there and not doing more

[00:25:58] to change that so i i'm i'm massive respect for trying to you know change the vote up a bit

[00:26:03] especially when they say your name is out there on the line and someone says yeah it's

[00:26:06] going to be you or her it's like option c charlie the man get him yeah listen i i love it

[00:26:13] as well considering that we talk about this like the meta of mergetory as i mentioned so cheeky in

[00:26:18] the beginning has kind of just become all right is there someone that nobody will kind of go to bat

[00:26:24] for you know and your example jwight it's something like gabler clearly comes in with an agenda into

[00:26:29] the merge feast and there wasn't really jenine probably being and maybe oh in a bit being the

[00:26:33] sole exceptions of anyone that's like willing to step up and defend them it's an easy option

[00:26:38] for everybody it's not necessarily causing bad blood and we've kind of seen as even something

[00:26:43] like last season uh you know that nearly happened to keila but where much like gabler bruce comes in

[00:26:48] with this sledgehammer agenda of nope keila's gonna be the one to go and they're like great okay it's not

[00:26:53] my name sure i'll route down keila but i don't know him from a hole in the wall and so you know it

[00:26:57] does sort of make sense with the meta that we end up kind of nearly expending someone that

[00:27:04] i'm kind of surprised the nami's go to bat for at the end of the day and i do wonder in retrospect

[00:27:09] if this will be the right move for them to make considering that moe at least expressed in her

[00:27:14] exit press that like she was not going to stay stiga strong and clearly in their case it was once again

[00:27:20] leona the w know is better than the w don't right and i think also there's so much information

[00:27:26] you're trying to process i mean i can imagine being in that situation of like taking in all

[00:27:30] this information and like do i said it's very much a like okay like i don't even know what's

[00:27:36] best for me i just don't want me to go so let me try to very quickly on very little food synthesize

[00:27:43] all this information and then make a decision moving forward and so i think that that is i can't even

[00:27:49] imagine how overwhelming that would be uh yeah we'll see ultimately how it plays out because

[00:27:54] obviously now it's looking like well the segas are on the out maybe tim feels like a little bit

[00:27:59] screwed uh with his like no he has his bff maria don't worry oh my god when maria was like he's not

[00:28:06] even my number three i was like wait there's five people on the tribe four not including maria if

[00:28:12] he's not even your number three what does that mean i think she said she is no i think she said

[00:28:18] three at best three okay three okay so three at best which means there's only one other person

[00:28:25] below him like that's brutal she was like i don't even know him yeah uh it's it's it's wild well i want

[00:28:33] to get back to the queue at hand yes because we have so much fun to talk about with this man because

[00:28:39] i would say again i think the prevailing mergetory strategy is kind of doing what tim did with

[00:28:44] maybe a bit of better tact which is like hey kind of suss out what the names might be wait until

[00:28:50] you see if that person's actually going to be safe which there's a 50 50 chance of doing and then

[00:28:54] you can really go in and you know make your target know and something that i kind of have a gripe about

[00:28:59] that we'll get to in a bit but here comes q and q is saying oh great a complicated vote for the first

[00:29:06] time in my survivor career fantastic this cast iron skill it's gonna cook baby and here he comes

[00:29:12] basically from our perspective kind of determining that the vote goes specifically on maria despite

[00:29:17] the fact that there were three sigas that were up for elimination uh going back to the china

[00:29:22] comparisons i've seen actually q get compared to james clement a bit in the past week which i i kind

[00:29:28] of see i think q is low key funny i think james is more high key funny uh in that like both in cases

[00:29:35] there are these big buff guys from the south that have like these big imposing physiques and like

[00:29:41] kind of imposing personalities as well but even chicare moments like q beaming a mile wide last

[00:29:46] week and being like i think that's a great plan uh like one of the rare times we saw him smiling

[00:29:51] or even this week when he gets so mad at venus that he threatens to deport her back to canada

[00:29:58] this man is absolutely wild and i love that now he feels like okay i've survived through hell

[00:30:05] so i will be the angel to slay everyone well i mean we saw inclinations of this right with

[00:30:12] like why does my path have to be the hardest like we've seen that you know like these little

[00:30:17] elements he's such a character like i'm thinking back to the whole bonny thing if he just tells bonny

[00:30:23] yeah you're my philip i'm just like what are you saying or when he says like all right i'm gonna

[00:30:28] be jeff and you're gonna be you and then they do it it goes all right so you're coming in too strong

[00:30:33] right now like the with q and i say this with so much love almost everything he does i say

[00:30:40] the pure audacity of this man yes but again like venus this is what you need in a reality tv

[00:30:45] contest it it's it's so i'm just genuinely it's like i i promise you about how could i these people

[00:30:52] are just so out there i was like how would i have worked with them on my season i'm just thinking

[00:30:56] like if i was on the season what the hell would have happened it's insane this this cast is so well

[00:31:00] made together they i'm glad like they're all on the same season together because it's just so

[00:31:04] funny to watch i'm like what is going on in this like little world that they have going on

[00:31:09] the cast and king just said yeah no just gotta okay these no just put them all together

[00:31:14] one or two outside like no put all like the outside crazy people together one season see

[00:31:19] how it happens let it play out it's so good we're experimenting in the new era like

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[00:32:04] we got the week started on rhap with my post game interview with dr ebi jugota and of course

[00:32:12] the know it alls and exit interview but if you want even more survivor make sure to check out

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[00:32:35] on rhap we know reality tv i i just love how quick q is to just declare something like when he hears

[00:32:47] about uh venus not being happy about the mariah vote he says i ain't talking to venus no more damn

[00:32:52] venus met her 12 hours ago dude we're like yeah like the second that mariah's like oh yeah you

[00:33:02] know i'm like obry gotta go the crime of being a nerdy woman get get out of my game now it's not even

[00:33:11] like this is who i'm playing like it's just like this is my favorite player i like to say my favorite

[00:33:17] player is tony and playing nothing like tony no that's a crime sorry the implication is like to q

[00:33:24] okay this is your favorite player you're going to play exactly like them i mean i guess the question

[00:33:29] was three times so often just like yeah okay no it's q and albree truth or was he back in on there in

[00:33:36] 2016 being like stop stop now stop now stop this you're gonna get a season to see you're gonna get

[00:33:43] a season i listen there's much worse social media activity at the 46 cast is done as of late so but

[00:33:47] this is mild by comparison who is who did q list is his favorite player so what's interesting

[00:33:54] jeremy yeah mariah told me that in the chat that they were having this was a two-way street

[00:33:59] because and what i love about this as well as again the bluntness of this cast it's like a dull machete

[00:34:05] throughout these past 13 days where the way it's shown is that mariah's like yeah that's the tough

[00:34:10] thing about this game it's like a big whiteboard there's so many possibilities a cute eruptor so

[00:34:14] who's your how long you've been watching give me your history like it's the worst job interview

[00:34:19] ever and yeah apparently mariah said aubrey and q didn't turn respond and said jeremy collins but

[00:34:26] he decides in that moment like listen it's okay for me it's not okay for you i've watched co-wrong

[00:34:33] i maybe not the other two seasons i know how much of a player aubrey can be so so sorry you gotta go

[00:34:41] listen the hypocrisy sometimes just needs to be used to put a target on someone

[00:34:45] just like yeah how dare you like a strong player get out of here meanwhile like he's definitely

[00:34:49] studied strong players and winners of how to play the game but listen anything it takes to put a

[00:34:54] name out there during the story whatever maybe he just wanted mariah out and just found a reason to

[00:35:00] do it maybe what's kind of thing it was for who really knows but i i have a hard time believing

[00:35:05] that that is the sole reason he wanted target mariah i think i was just something to latch

[00:35:09] on to and spread throughout the tribe or some kind of like rumor also like let's be real

[00:35:13] there's probably other aubrey fans on the damn season being like damn that's crazy

[00:35:16] anyways get her yeah so that's the question i think austin ended up asking on twitter on

[00:35:22] wednesday night is there like a perfect player that serves as a middle ground for you to answer

[00:35:28] this question without having the cues of the world perk up barriers and say ah okay that means

[00:35:33] you're next to go mm-hmm yeah i think a lot of people were like the initial inclination is

[00:35:38] oh you go for like the zane knights the philip shepherds you know the ones like that i think i

[00:35:44] think no i think you need someone that you're just like who yeah i think you make up a player

[00:35:51] ooh okay this here's the thing we saw last episode people certainly watch all the seasons

[00:35:57] but the retention forward it's not necessarily 100 nor does it need to be could you be like oh

[00:36:04] yeah mark havermeyer eighth place from season 38 that is my go-to guy what he did with that idol

[00:36:11] oh but in the best moments in survivor history just like outline those generalities without going

[00:36:16] into specific the issue is there's so many super fans cast nowadays i'm gonna be like who's like

[00:36:21] someone out there probably knows the entire history of every single fiber cut would like

[00:36:25] clock you immediately be like he's just lying you know or someone out there is gonna know

[00:36:29] could you use an international contestant then that will put no that's even worse

[00:36:35] because that's like oh they know international survivor like oh and i and i talk survivor a you

[00:36:41] on the island i don't think that helped my case yeah i was a uh getting out so yeah don't do that

[00:36:48] don't do that one oh yeah like maybe don't wear jonathan uh t-shirt yeah imagine imagine if

[00:36:54] they approved your wardrobe to go out there with a jonathan lapalia t-shirt

[00:36:59] oh yeah that should just take it out during pregame like get this out of here no no no no no

[00:37:04] here's how you bypass it and this is future survivor contestants this is what you do liana

[00:37:09] yes you say that's your husband oh remember how erin from island of the idols had his kid on

[00:37:15] his socks i feel like you get a loophole by saying this is your family so you don't think

[00:37:18] anybody's gonna fact check this yeah i think that's an issue like just put the face on the

[00:37:23] socks don't put a name just like yeah have to make sure we recognize that's actually not yeah

[00:37:27] okay that's the play someone 47 do that please i i want to happen yeah exactly like you sneak in

[00:37:33] somebody as long as they're not like with no offense to jonathan like an incredibly wrecking

[00:37:37] you can't put like tom cruise on your shirt and be like oh this is my uncle uh first of all then

[00:37:41] they call you a nepo baby maybe they wouldn't be able to bring on the show in the first

[00:37:44] to claim the fame not survive exactly wrong show okay great so we've got that plan love that

[00:37:54] yeah i would just cover that up all right so my thing about keel so i've been thinking about this

[00:38:01] so if you're on the internet you may have seen people being like oh my god hunter let's thirst

[00:38:08] over hunter okay have we seen this no just oh yeah no no no yeah yeah okay yeah i think q is hotter

[00:38:17] okay i think there's a what the challenge with q and his underwear when he's like swimming in the

[00:38:22] water and releasing the ball and stuff and he like jumps up on the platform thing i think he's hotter

[00:38:29] i think he's unintentionally funny which is very entertaining to me now obviously kenzie is

[00:38:34] my crush of the season but if i had to pick a second i think it would be q yeah i i could see that

[00:38:40] like i think his body he has one of the most like so again going back to james clement like one of

[00:38:44] the most like aesthetically beautiful bodies that i think we've been asking for work on advice after

[00:38:49] the season like guys tell me what to do with what the book but that's the other thing that's

[00:38:52] interesting as well is it's that confidence but i think hunter sure of has that quiet

[00:38:56] confidence of like i could probably do that but i don't need to advertise that at the moment

[00:38:59] i mean look at tribal council where that's the other thing about q is that like he's consistently

[00:39:04] in coach mode that's just who he is as a person so even a tribal council when he's like admonishing

[00:39:10] mariah for being like why did you not tell me you were on the bottom and then he says

[00:39:13] you have to realize are you playing for sega or are you playing for you like he can't help

[00:39:18] but they're a little bit of a nugget of wisdom in there towards the end of him

[00:39:21] bringing someone down just i got this fit this one out i got the questions today you take a day off

[00:39:28] yeah i can handle that yeah and look will that eventually rub me the wrong way yes and will i be

[00:39:33] annoyed with him yes but he's nice to look at so i appreciate that yeah and i think he just he has

[00:39:40] so many moods as well like it was really fun and i think we talked about this all the way back

[00:39:44] in like the second weekly on it i do think he had probably an underrated amount of control

[00:39:48] on that yanoo tribe i mean if he's to believe it seemed like he was ready to pull the trigger

[00:39:52] on that kenzie blindside had randoms medevac not happen but i also love that he kind of feels

[00:39:57] like a kid in a candy store here of like oh great i don't have to you know strategize with these goons

[00:40:03] over here now there's this whole other group of people and you could tell

[00:40:07] how freaking jazzy is by this plus one alliance as well considering that he basically bypassed

[00:40:13] any sort of small talk we see that scene where everyone's just kind of sharing stories and

[00:40:16] he's just like and he says i'm gonna get up and just check in with all my cross tribal

[00:40:21] members these are the people that i want to be with yeah i'm treating them how his social

[00:40:25] game is because he just obviously is not partaking in like the let's all like talk about ourselves

[00:40:29] and it's like is he trying to integrate himself socially at all and he's just like only game mode

[00:40:33] i'm so intrigued to see how this plays out like for like while he's always here well i think the

[00:40:38] big end that i'm honestly surprised has not been acknowledged yet is the mississippi connection

[00:40:42] is here this was something that these two guys clocked each other in the preseason i had a

[00:40:47] feeling that just due to the physicality of the pre-merge they both make it there and now it's official

[00:40:52] and i think these two guys like have to be in lockstep for the next portion of the game which i

[00:40:56] think is another big reason why yanoo flips over to namie yeah they're shields for each other so i

[00:41:00] feel like if one goes out there was gonna go out and they need each other there just as a kind

[00:41:04] of you know like the the physical meet fields if you get rid of walking with let's just

[00:41:08] get the other one out while we're here just like protect each other socially for a bit i think

[00:41:11] they'll be fine um i i'm just look on the pre-merge challenges this season were those those are more

[00:41:17] physical than the usual if i recall right none of them have like an only like there's one ending puzzle

[00:41:20] right and of all of them i feel like a lot of them ended in the use the slingshot to hit some kind

[00:41:25] of skill yeah so so we had you know our immunity challenges was drag the 500 pound gecko which

[00:41:31] was certainly both a physical and teamwork challenge that puzzle though right we had

[00:41:36] uh did it end in a puzzle we did have the the put we had put together the wagon and push it

[00:41:40] through but like then we had that epic persistence puzzle that was a little bit physical and a little

[00:41:45] bit cooperation as well it's more than we had a dig through the uh go into the water and then

[00:41:52] toss the beanbags onto the spiral platform then we had dive down and release the buoys and then

[00:41:57] land the bat the balls into the targets and then we had hit the slingshot so we really only

[00:42:01] went puzzle heavy these first two challenges and then i got as we'll talk about with the

[00:42:05] migratory challenge this most recent one yeah but even like per the persis nance one like what

[00:42:10] Dwight was saying is that that did feel so much more physical like it really wasn't as much about

[00:42:15] the puzzle as it was about the coordinating but the physically just holding up the block everyone

[00:42:19] knew the word like a few minutes i think it was like the extended so long on the ball so it's

[00:42:22] like it's intriguing how i think the the tone of the season i think maybe too less the grin of

[00:42:28] like hunter and kew later on is this season's free much challenges put so much effort on physicality

[00:42:32] that there was no option but for hunter and q and tim was a beast in his child let's be clear tim

[00:42:38] sometimes was beating hunter in some things and people just didn't call it out and it's like

[00:42:42] tim's good at these challenges let's be very clear so i think for them it caused them to stand out

[00:42:48] earlier than maybe they would have liked which i think they were all they were all safe at this

[00:42:54] vote but i think that's gonna be something i can come back to bite them later is it's on

[00:42:58] everyone's minds now that they're good at challenges because they were forced to you know

[00:43:02] right do these things together like in i'm i'm i'm mad at my season i think my season had like

[00:43:07] four challenges that ended in puzzles compared to their one um so it's a bit different on you're

[00:43:12] not looking at people's physicality as much um like also in the edit like it's focusing on

[00:43:16] the hunter and q and tim showdowns every day on episode that's the people are looking at them

[00:43:21] every single episode and the players are also watching this too so i'm very i'm curious

[00:43:26] to see if this plays out later on um if one goes on immunity run because like the people are saying

[00:43:31] like now like people gonna someone's gonna break the immunity record this challenge isn't athletic

[00:43:35] guys the fans these immunity challenges are not just strength when you hit the merge okay like it's

[00:43:40] gonna be some balance interesting it's gonna be a puzzle i don't think someone's gonna go on

[00:43:45] immune like yes the cast like i look like it's just depend on q and hunter tim i don't think

[00:43:51] anyone like just new era i don't think anyone gets over three immunity wins like it's not

[00:43:54] going to be like a hunter wins six kind of thing okay guys he's doing challenges he's not gonna

[00:43:58] win like if i'm wrong at me later if you break the mean record whatever she's not breaking it okay

[00:44:04] the challenge is free word spoke to us about it but that's not how post-war challenges work

[00:44:08] okay well and let me float something out there is i believe hunter told me openly in our pre-season

[00:44:15] interview that he's like not great at balance like he tested it a little bit but obviously

[00:44:21] where he's more you know specialized is these puzzles or these sort of hand-eye coordination

[00:44:26] things to finish up and challenges which are much more team-based to your point why that there might

[00:44:30] be especially final six final five or they can do these bigger bills for less contestants where

[00:44:35] there might be a puzzle at the end but hunter might hit a dry period right now considering

[00:44:40] it's going to be a lot of stand in one place and hold this thing up or try to balance something

[00:44:45] and not to say that like hunter is the mariah level in terms of hand-eye coordination but at the

[00:44:51] same time i think we may have possibly reached like the apex of his powers have you seen a preview

[00:44:56] for the next episode the challenge oh yeah but it's the dog houses right the bird meter triangles

[00:44:59] yeah so uh he's not gonna balance yeah that's that's cooked uh i didn't know that he wasn't gonna

[00:45:03] balance that's important um but yeah um well i'll just say something i forgot already oh my god

[00:45:10] well i want to maybe you'll bring it back around because i do want to throw out a talking

[00:45:14] point here that has certainly been mentioned i mean there's certainly has been a lot of talk in

[00:45:18] the pre-merge with the downward spiral of yano as to like okay should the three tribe format be

[00:45:23] sunsetted should the noflint rule be sunsetted at this point we are six seasons in joy does

[00:45:28] someone who has participated in a mergetory do we need to change it up and or eliminate it all

[00:45:34] together uh change the structure of the poster yes 100 so i my opinion of this whole

[00:45:41] mergetory thing whatever mergetory it is what i say i am not as much of a hater of the half immune

[00:45:51] half not at the mergetory as some people are i hardly think that's okay the thing that bothers me

[00:45:57] the most about this new air structure is the guaranteed double tribal that's coming

[00:46:02] because i think the players are not if you're playing optimally you're not allowed to really

[00:46:06] start doing things like open up your game until after a double tribal happens if that final 12

[00:46:11] final 10 double tribal itself is so fucked up because on third on the third person tribe

[00:46:17] everyone is still voting so even if you integrate your well so slowly you can still have like the

[00:46:21] votes on your side the split tribal of two three five two six it's just purely random on who

[00:46:25] you're with so you can't really start playing aggressively until after that is over if they

[00:46:30] move the double tribal to pre-merge just make it to where the first tribe to win wins immunity

[00:46:35] do a double tribal of the tribes you are on that you've been able to do with for a while like

[00:46:39] that's where like force a tribe to go to tribal pre-merge um like if someone's like getting

[00:46:44] constantly second make it make them go um due to double tribal pre-merge open up the game

[00:46:48] post merge like let the players have a lot more votes where everyone is voting together

[00:46:52] the double tribal is my biggest gripe with the new era structure um it just closes off the

[00:46:58] game so many ways until after it happens like before like 41 or i'm 42 or 44 you have not 10

[00:47:04] so you only had like in my opinion the game opened up at final eight seven six and five yeah four votes

[00:47:10] of like pure survivor gameplay uh now they moved it early to like final 12 but still it's just like

[00:47:15] what happened at all just put it pre-merge let them play put also put it pre-merge do 41

[00:47:21] for two three put it pre-merge do the merge story at 12 do one challenge and then 11 onwards

[00:47:26] just you know let it ride um but that's that's my thought actually no they had their double

[00:47:30] tribal man too didn't they it had 10 on their feet and two yeah oh my god yeah do two double

[00:47:34] tribal pre-merge well well because they also had the two episodes right they did one for

[00:47:39] the entire first round with the merge story then the hourglass and then the second round

[00:47:43] in something that i think they should bring back which is the individual immunity challenge

[00:47:47] after the merge story yes i agree with that too they need that should be a thing i think just

[00:47:50] the days they change the day structure to where um can i go into this can i go into the

[00:47:56] please yeah i'm in my love okay well if i get lupus you guys fine no no no but um i think they

[00:48:02] have bigger fish to fry this yeah i mean they they they ended up whatever but like 1442 it was what

[00:48:06] they merge at they merge at 12 do the challenge at 12 an exiled person and then 14 the 14 was

[00:48:14] the vote for 12th place um now it's merge at 12 vote at 13 for six but 14 14 for seven it's

[00:48:23] i i like the 41 for two structure more if you have more time before the vote you have like

[00:48:26] an extra day um and it gives you time to build the individual me challenges like you do the 12 to

[00:48:32] figure out which group is not safe you can start this for a day about that do the immunity

[00:48:35] challenge of those groups are not safe and do a vote right then that would require a double

[00:48:39] tribal pre-merge but i think that's better for the health of the game long term honestly if you

[00:48:42] want to do two double tribal pre-merge and make the merge at 11 and just actually make the merge

[00:48:46] again from that i say um then you know do that uh which i think like i think it's better to make

[00:48:52] people like the reward i think there should be like if you survive with pre-merge you

[00:48:56] deserve like beyond the dirt kind of thing like that's just my opinion on it i may not i was

[00:48:59] like that's the beginning before i played by the way it's not like i was gonna say joy talking

[00:49:02] from a certain place this is my opinion before i play genuinely so i want to be clear and

[00:49:07] just talking back about it somewhere hopefully this but like i think double tribal pre-merge

[00:49:12] is better and just it also a swap i think a swap in this very pre-merge it had to do two

[00:49:15] tribal two double tribal pre-merge to get it to 11 at the merge and you can have the same schedule

[00:49:19] from day 14 onwards i like that i guys i'm like a nerd sometimes i have like doc ideas or like

[00:49:25] advantages i think would be balanced i kind of get around there's also like the scheduling i think

[00:49:28] would be optimal i need to go through this but like i like game design and like i really enjoy

[00:49:32] game design a lot i think like there is a way to optimize like how let the players play the

[00:49:36] best while also entertaining yeah and it's fine about that you don't want to swing too hard in one

[00:49:41] direction of you know it's just for tv but the players look like an agency um i think that's where

[00:49:47] 41 42 showing that direction a bit too much where it's like to try to make a product but the players

[00:49:50] just feel like what the fuck do i do um they're getting back to the players agency a bit more in

[00:49:56] their game i do like that but i think there's still more they can do in my opinion um but

[00:50:01] i ramble for too long yeah no i mean look i think i so i i agree with you do i i think that

[00:50:07] there's two things that i look for when it comes to twists is it a momentum killer that's point number

[00:50:13] one in the sense of like does it it's what you're saying about this split tribal like knowing that

[00:50:19] the split tribal is ultimately going to come you know it's random which means it's about just

[00:50:23] surviving and creating good relationships with everybody because you don't know what group

[00:50:28] of people you're going to end up with so that's point number one and then i think point

[00:50:32] number two is also as much as we love sandra for that anybody but me kind of strategy i don't want

[00:50:38] players to be so terrified that they're comatose and not willing to pull a venus and be like hey

[00:50:44] like let's try this let's do this it's fun when one person does it not 13 yes yes so so i think that

[00:50:51] those are sort of the two things that i look for and i do think that the split tribal has a

[00:50:55] 10s towards that i think the small tribes 10 towards that i think the lack of food the lack of

[00:51:02] fire all of that 10 towards i'm just trying to protect myself you go into the fight or flight

[00:51:07] mode so anything that can hopefully allow players to feel like they have just a teeny bit more

[00:51:12] breathing room to be able to want to make those moves to be able to play a little bit more

[00:51:15] proactively that's what i want to see yeah and it's interesting because you could say on paper

[00:51:21] to that point of okay the split tribal council is where gameplay gets stymied a bit more what i do

[00:51:25] find interesting about the double tribal council is i feel like from what we've seen usually it's

[00:51:29] like one vote is pretty by the books and roads going to the very first one like the evi boot was

[00:51:35] very unfortunate and like very clear but then you have on the other side like definitely the

[00:51:39] one that gets shaken up a bit more than a seer vote as a big example where there were all

[00:51:43] these votes going around and rickard and shan make this big move with the extra vote to

[00:51:47] take out nissir who has an idol in his pocket where for some reason maybe it's just that idea of like

[00:51:54] okay we've hit the merge now there's smaller numbers with this configuration let's make a move

[00:51:58] to your point leonna what you credit to the split tribal council i credit to merge a Tory

[00:52:02] personally and look i think the person that actually went through it can contest him but

[00:52:06] it just feels to me like this is a trend like this is officially not only a trend

[00:52:12] but prevailing gameplay that we've seen through six seasons which is just okay listen i don't want

[00:52:17] to necessarily say anything because i don't want to stick my neck out too far do you have someone

[00:52:21] you want to get rid of great we'll just sort of go with that and it's almost always someone who has

[00:52:26] been on the bottom pre-merge and that we just kind of do a near unanimous vote on maybe throw

[00:52:32] a few extra votes uh other ways for like idols shot in the dark and then kind of move on

[00:52:37] to right i completely agree with you with game structure i think for me the perfect pre-merge

[00:52:42] would be like you know whether you do a swap or not four regular episodes episode five make it

[00:52:47] a double tribal council make it a one tribe wins and the other tribe go a that gives a chance for

[00:52:53] tribes to actually go to tribal council in the pre-merge which we definitely have struggled

[00:52:57] with the past couple seasons of nami bellow these tribes had never voted until they end up

[00:53:03] reaching the merge and then two like yes i understand wanting to put a double round in

[00:53:08] there later just in case you get a bruised situation or a jackson situation and you have

[00:53:12] to do a double boot anyway this is only what like a couple rounds before you do a double

[00:53:17] boot anyway so like it feels like this is extending the pre-merge to get more people

[00:53:22] to vote then you go into mergetory and i think you do the 41 42 structure i could

[00:53:27] understand that there is appeal in like having people meet on a beach and talk with each other

[00:53:33] and having a day to get sort of feel each other out before you end up getting into the challenge

[00:53:37] but i would imagine if i was in that spot to liana's point i would just kind of be waiting

[00:53:41] of like great i'm gonna vibe with these people i'm gonna wait until i see if this person's

[00:53:45] actually safe or not before i can actually throw a name out so i say bring them to the challenge

[00:53:51] on day third day 12 day 13 and say like drop your buffs the mergetory challenge is happening

[00:53:56] now do the draw make that pool open immediately at the merge so then you get two days to basically

[00:54:02] talk things through you can have that individual immunity challenge because i also feel like

[00:54:06] badly for the people in 43 who 46 were eliminated because like

[00:54:10] yeah you didn't have the right group for this particular challenge give them another chance

[00:54:14] to stand on their own to be perhaps quite literally and win immunity for yourself

[00:54:19] and then move forward from there it's these small tweaks where like if mergetory

[00:54:23] feels like a must if jeff feels like this is so thematic to the new era that it must be a staple of

[00:54:29] it there's ways that we can work into it to not make it seem like we are just walking into a 13

[00:54:35] person mergetory okay there's maybe three people that can go based on what usually happens

[00:54:42] all right well let's start talking about the person that unfortunately did go out

[00:54:45] and mergetory let's talk about mariah here now mariah certainly a very fun person to talk

[00:54:52] about in the premier certainly rob and i had some question marks about her as

[00:54:56] she was going on to the clinical more normal vibe tribe of sega as one of the quirkier

[00:55:02] personalities leona how did that play into your own predictions for how moe would do in the pre-season

[00:55:08] okay so i did have moe going pre-jury and i said that moe uh well mariah i didn't i didn't know

[00:55:17] we were going with moe okay so mariah attempts to connect with her tribe mates over dnd and brewing

[00:55:22] beer but unfortunately her tribe mates don't share the same hobbies in the first immunity

[00:55:28] challenge of the season she has assigned the puzzle but second guesses herself and crumbles

[00:55:33] under pressure due to her lack of social connections and the puzzle fluff mariah wipes

[00:55:38] out in the first tribal council and is the first boot of the season oh i know very explicit

[00:55:45] about this bad call anyway imagine if it's co-wrong and the brains tribe had gone first

[00:55:52] and aubrey was the first boot it's like that but not okay i said her ally was ben and her enemy

[00:56:00] was subtle influence had me in the first half not gonna lie yet that was something that she

[00:56:05] told me in her pre-season interview that she had mastered the art of subtle influence from her

[00:56:09] work in politics which i don't think ever came up surprisingly she didn't do a like as a person

[00:56:13] in politics this is how you work your way around it uh but she had a lot of other great

[00:56:18] confessionals i feel like mariah has kind of like her airtime was kind of odd you know she had the

[00:56:24] ds can't jump random tidbit back in episode three but i always loved her when she went to

[00:56:28] confessional something about when she talked about how uh when she's read the tree mail her

[00:56:32] heart sank much like the dense gravity in her body like she has such a way with words i really

[00:56:37] do love her the other one too is like the um i can't believe men are just listing or like they're

[00:56:44] just listing song titles and i'm like super into it that confessional i feel like was also very good

[00:56:48] yeah saying names i think he said yeah uh so i had higher prospects i jumped a little bit to a

[00:56:55] greater height for mariah i did have her making the jury i said that due to her being quirkier

[00:57:01] than her try made she starts on the outs of sega but going undefeated pre-merge keeps hope alive uh

[00:57:07] yeah i think i talked about this with gem last week that i had sega winning every challenge

[00:57:11] she bonds with ben over lord of the rings forming the hobbit alliance alongside mariah

[00:57:16] because they're the three shortest sega people um despite her wipeout win we'll see her promise

[00:57:22] preseason clutsiness come to fruition she'll struggle to walk across balance beams taking

[00:57:27] quite a few face plants in the water which to be fair won her a whole other reality show

[00:57:32] she'll make and put too much stock in a red hair don't care alliance with kenzie which is not very

[00:57:38] reciprocated the nagging voice in her head will be tested when she goes on a journey her gut has

[00:57:44] her deciding to play which loses her vote and after the sega culling begins post merge mariah

[00:57:49] goes out over her fellow hobbits perceived as the brains of the group due to her

[00:57:54] dirtiness and fandom her closest allies were ben and mariah and her enemy was her inner ear

[00:58:02] oh because of balance got it i don't know she could just be maybe she doesn't like it

[00:58:09] she got an ear infection um talk about koran yeah okay interesting yeah i i'm i'm surprised

[00:58:18] had sega winning all of them like you really felt like they were gonna do well i mean i i think

[00:58:23] for me i'd seen that y'all knew obviously had fallen apart in those first two challenges and nami

[00:58:28] like i would have loved to see them crush the rest of the pre-mage but for me i was like the bottom

[00:58:33] has to drop out at some point this tribe is just way too much of a mishmash of personalities that

[00:58:39] they'll eventually lose one sega was like again by far the most copacetic even within

[00:58:43] those first few days that i thought okay they seem to be at least pretty good at everything

[00:58:49] there's a chance that they could lose they came in second in those two challenges that uh you know

[00:58:54] i watch them do but i thought okay they're the most stable tribe and i think considering the very

[00:59:00] unstable elements across the other two tribes stability would win out here fair okay so are

[00:59:10] you gonna give me the wind joint wow q being so forward yeah i'm taking i'm i was thinking venus but

[00:59:17] okay so i am uh the the small thing that gets me there is mike said that she gets taken out for

[00:59:30] being the brains of the alliance which kind of was the reason she was like just perceived as you

[00:59:35] know the strategist of sega group even though she was on the bottom but for instance it's a

[00:59:41] tribal at least i'm gonna go with mike on this one like mike got it a bit closer yeah than uh

[00:59:49] then you did that's a nat 20 okay i'm giving to leonia now that one inside thoughts mike

[00:59:59] never like venus like would it be an entertaining podcast if i kept things inside

[01:00:05] oh my gosh okay well uh speaking of not keeping things inside

[01:00:12] what a weird transition uh we're gonna let's play our game i thought you're just gonna project

[01:00:16] i'll vomit all over your screen when you said i don't know why that's again the first thing you

[01:00:22] thought of but okay all right so what are we doing today we are going to casuals corner i went

[01:00:29] to the survivor facebook page because it's about time we do a check up to see how the casuals are

[01:00:34] feeling about the season are they sharing similar opinions how do they feel about how everything is

[01:00:42] going so i will read four comments three of them are real one of them i wrote and your goal is to

[01:00:50] guess which one i wrote so we'll go back and forth between the two of you and answer some questions

[01:00:57] maybe be more confused i don't know let's see how it goes but first i will kick i will kick

[01:01:02] things off with a comment that was actually so i don't know if jordan calish is like checking

[01:01:07] the facebook page like every week anyway he sent me screenshots this week from some comments

[01:01:14] yeah i'm prompted but you didn't even know we were doing capital corner oh i think jordan calish

[01:01:18] is peeping on our text conversations leonard anyway so he sent me one you can't spell

[01:01:24] jordan calish without nsa he's a hacker a hacker man okay so he sent me one uh from seafoo uh a new

[01:01:36] father by the way um and this is what seafoo wrote seafoo in all caps is ready rock with the merge

[01:01:47] what those are like seafoo's official fan page no no it's him i mean it's him

[01:01:54] talks in the third person on instagram all right well we always recall who voted for seafoo

[01:01:59] right so seafoo is ready rock with the merge oh and then there's a check mark check mark check

[01:02:05] park emoji um if that's important is he trying to show that he's triply verified

[01:02:09] i don't know anyway so seafoo is ready to rock and so are we but did he say too he said ready rock

[01:02:17] yeah he didn't say ready to rock he says he said he's ready rock with the merge

[01:02:22] okay i mean we do recall right his uh preseason battle of the bands alongside ben so maybe he's

[01:02:28] trying to like undercut him try to take his own language from him maybe or just like how do we

[01:02:33] get in a band together can you imagine like ben j maya seafoo i'm here for it long sleep do it i'm just

[01:02:40] imagining seafoo's child sitting in a high chair the way he was sitting in the ocean at one time

[01:02:44] in the background i forgot that happened that's so funny all that image has burned into my brain

[01:02:54] i love it okay let's talk about the woman of the hour our eliminated contestant mariah so mic we're

[01:03:05] gonna start with you here are four comments one i wrote three are real you have to guess which one

[01:03:11] i wrote comment a not sure what they all had against mo except that she was a super fan

[01:03:19] no b who was mo oh no see mariah or liz needs to go they both look the same and we only need one

[01:03:30] or d mo should have jumped ship from sega dot dot dot oh wait dot dot dot laugh emoji laugh

[01:03:37] emoji laugh emoji oh see d feels so clever that part of me feels like you wrote it but like i

[01:03:44] don't want to give discredit the casuals too much so a was what was a again not sure what they all had

[01:03:51] against mo except that she was a super fan okay that feels logical enough and reasonable enough

[01:03:57] and also like not cheeky enough to be a real one so it comes down to b and c which makes sense

[01:04:02] because these are two comments about mariah and liz looking alike i'm gonna say c c felt a bit

[01:04:08] too much of a complex second structure okay so i when i read that one i thought i'd written it

[01:04:15] because it sounds like something i would have wrote written written but no it was d oh wow ship

[01:04:21] from sega so clever clever look at me i that's also a wild thing about this wild season is like

[01:04:30] remember the fact that they cast two people that look very much alike honestly i was wishing

[01:04:35] they were final two i feel scammed i feel very sad that they couldn't work together like mariah

[01:04:40] told me that it seemed like she was much more into ben liz was than she was into her so it was clear

[01:04:46] that unfortunately all their loving conversations during like the three hours it took the pesarist

[01:04:50] since challenge about their socks just was done well that's what i'm saying like at least we got

[01:04:55] that moment you know with some of the editors giving us that that was great yeah they're having fun

[01:05:01] i love that okay we're gonna stick with mo and uh i think you'll get the theme of this question

[01:05:08] as i go through the comments and dwight this one is going to be for you oh god hey i'm sad she's not

[01:05:16] in no mo tonight on survivor if you don't vote mo it's you know mo this is all one comment no no

[01:05:27] these are all different that was a sorry sorry sorry yes sorry yes a is i'm sad she's not in no mo

[01:05:35] b is tonight on survivor if you don't vote mo it's you know mo c mo sealed her own fate

[01:05:44] dot dot dot she could she should have kept her mo moh shut mo dash uth like mo okay mo moh

[01:05:56] mo her moh with or d sad mo's gone but mo money mo problems okay c and d sound like casuals for sure

[01:06:11] i feel maybe i say a and b again okay so a is i'm sad she's not in no mo and b is tonight on survivor

[01:06:23] if you don't vote mo it's you know mo okay i was gonna say b but b just sounds so out there

[01:06:29] because actually someone wrote that on like on facebook or something so oh my god actually is it

[01:06:35] is it c i don't know we'll see again c is mo sealed her own fate dot dot dot should have kept her

[01:06:44] mo shut mo i would say i would say b was something that you wrote okay so that's incorrect i wrote the

[01:06:55] sad mo's gone but mo money mo problems because it applies more sort of lids than mo i thought someone

[01:07:02] would be able to know the lids mo joke i whoops yeah look it's a disaster that was also one of my uh

[01:07:11] on the radar lids moments of the episode is when she a hunter immediately finds out she just

[01:07:16] comes amblin around with the grandma sweater oh my god there was another lids moment where she was

[01:07:20] like it was when hunter takes off to go get the idol and she's like why are we running yeah

[01:07:26] look it's hunter is like hooray the merch we doesn't come back

[01:07:32] and like no one was suspicious that he just like takes off that's so strange to me i'm just like

[01:07:40] what he's just so excited he just ran away he ran to a different island well just imagine that

[01:07:48] like imagine if you're hosting a surprise party and not the person being surprised but if someone

[01:07:52] who's a part of the party goes surprise and then they just run out of the house and don't come back

[01:07:57] for like three hours what is that saying yeah and then comes back and just like sits on the steps

[01:08:06] i got it i listen i tired myself out i ran that whole way it was like i run back right after it

[01:08:11] seems like oh i got the energy again gotta go back okay let's switch gears a little bit let's

[01:08:19] look at venus so my question is for you comment a i liked venus she was a threat to the dummies

[01:08:30] b venus got stagoda i like her but then i like soda and i voted for biden

[01:08:41] i didn't realize that we had to reveal our own

[01:08:45] records on the survivor i like i don't understand like the logic of that whoa it

[01:08:51] couldn't be that because venus is canadian they want to show like but i'm american i voted for biden

[01:08:58] so do you think soda refers to the drink not the person then like i'm american and i love waffle

[01:09:04] house and i voted for biden you know what those are the three things that get linked with each other

[01:09:09] okay so that was comment c comment d anyone notice venus put on a purple tank top to schmooze

[01:09:17] with the yanni tribe a little too obvious oh i love the yanni tribe

[01:09:24] not yanni not that soft greek music all right so yanni tribe i feel like yanni tribe is real

[01:09:32] then we have i'm american i like soda and biden yeah oh did you write c i think you wrote c

[01:09:44] i did not write c i wrote b venus got stagoda it just popped into my head and i was like this is

[01:09:54] so dumb we're gonna keep this okay so it's a zero zero score so far let's see if dwight can get the

[01:10:03] first point on the board so all right so we're not going to be talking about one specific player

[01:10:08] we're going to be talking about some general thoughts about the other players of the season

[01:10:13] so here are your comments dwight a hunter is the hardest worker there he's the best so far

[01:10:21] he knows how to play survivor that's on facebook yep okay b lal i love q for a athlete he sucks at

[01:10:31] challenges but he makes me laugh c tiki man has a better social game than tim oh or d i think they

[01:10:44] should all vote off elzbeth since she keeps interrupting all their convos i want to say d so

[01:10:52] bad but i know that's real elzbeth freaking peeping her head in saying what y'all talking about yeah

[01:10:58] that one she like popped up like she was like up when there was a conversation happening it's like

[01:11:03] what are you doing here go away it's actually it's a or d i don't know which one um so i'll convince

[01:11:11] a was real but now a sounds so straightforward it might be fake um

[01:11:18] is d real is it's d i'm so upset if d is actually real i'm gonna i'm gonna say a is what you wrote

[01:11:29] it is not a d is real okay he is the one that i wrote about tiki man having a better social

[01:11:37] that's the thing you know these elzbeth advertisements are so obtrusive that the

[01:11:41] casuals are picking up on exactly yes they're mostly just complaining about how loud the music

[01:11:46] is the fact that they managed to notice this like okay it's too much too much okay mic we're

[01:11:53] gonna go back to you uh so this uh group of comments i just have titled who so let's figure

[01:12:03] this out together comment a marie said she was pregnant why we she allowed to compete not eating

[01:12:13] and getting hurt during a challenge or a huge risk what when who said what who said that okay comment

[01:12:21] a marie said she was pregnant why we she allowed to compete not eating and getting hurt during a

[01:12:30] challenge are a huge risk there's so many things is there a secret scene i didn't that only they had

[01:12:36] access to where someone took a pregnancy test who what okay that was a so let's go over oh god

[01:12:48] all right comment be the realtor should have went home okay referring to q uh i guess i don't

[01:12:56] know them for paying attention to the lower thirds and seeing that he's a real estate agent

[01:12:59] i know and also it's literally the easiest name to remember it's one letter it's q

[01:13:03] go whatever fine the realtor if you want um okay see liby is miss moneybags send her home first

[01:13:13] liby i mean to be fair liz is probably short for elizabeth or wait could liz be short for

[01:13:18] elizabeth don't even start oh no elizabeth is liz the ninth contestant on this season no that's

[01:13:27] what happens is they decided listen cbs is a pioneer in technology they took the character of elizabeth

[01:13:32] downloaded her into like a clone body that's an offshoot of mariah they're like just take it

[01:13:38] and tweak it a little bit so that people won't notice and that's what liz is yeah has ai gone too far

[01:13:44] okay uh that was okay so let's see d wish jess played her idol so glad no one is prancing around in

[01:13:55] underwear okay oh wait okay so so jess means gem i'm doing some translation here okay wish that gem

[01:14:04] played her idol now they say i'm glad no one's prancing around in their underwear yeah is that

[01:14:08] to imply that if gem did play her idol and stayed that she would be like so chased that she would insist

[01:14:16] on not wearing anything to expose the underwear because the other option was ben and i guess ben

[01:14:21] ben was wearing like cut off denim shorts i noticed in this episode but i don't think he was wearing

[01:14:25] underwear all the time oh never nude um well i think that so it says wish jess played her idol

[01:14:32] so i think in the universe where jess plays gem jess whatever plays her idol they yeah because remember

[01:14:37] jess did play an idol it just was not a real one yeah they still don't want people prancing around

[01:14:43] in underwear so i don't think that separate thoughts correct but same comment okay so we have

[01:14:50] we have jess gem idol we've got libya yeah sni a was marie saying she was marie surprised

[01:14:59] pregnancy and b is real her okay so i'm between b and c once more in the middle of the sandwich

[01:15:06] i'm gonna go with how'd it go with b you were close it was c the correct answer yes libya's

[01:15:16] missing money bags yeah i don't know like do people pull the name liby out nowadays in 2024 i don't

[01:15:23] know no they don't i was like what name is like lizz lib lisa just go with lisa yeah i don't know

[01:15:34] do they say uh liby should go i voted for biden liby should go i love soda i voted for biden

[01:15:41] i love sweet tea i voted for biden okay all right we're out we're sticking in the same confusing

[01:15:47] category oh god yes all right so here are your comments a i've got three winners tim travon

[01:15:59] and hunter love these guys comment a that was coming a check please comment b she reminds me of

[01:16:16] aos she might be smarter than aos you mean a o they compare aoc with ios did they mix them together

[01:16:26] reading you what i saw uh comment c i forgot to watch it you was voted off

[01:16:37] there are 26 letters in the alphabet i'm looking at my keyboard now q and you have a difference of

[01:16:45] five letters between them you just heard it wrong every single time you know don't blame them i mean

[01:16:53] if i were going in there i would want to go by the nickname you also you wasn't voted off another

[01:16:59] thing that's just actually incorrect well that was a question because they forgot to watch so they

[01:17:05] hope that you was going on question mark but maybe it's like uh in t9 texting is q and you or

[01:17:13] that's the same button i don't remember yes they're on their motor roller razors trying to go into the

[01:17:19] survivor facebook page and figure out what happened yeah exactly oh my gosh uh all right so yes so do

[01:17:26] i back to you those are your comments so we've got the three winners comment we've got aos

[01:17:33] you was voted off oh wait d i need to read you d obviously uh comment d is seven up made the merge

[01:17:41] that's cute cute but it should be several up several up yeah i'll go yeah we'll edit that several

[01:17:49] up made the merge uh

[01:18:05] i'm gonna go see see okay so no it was d i wrote i thought it was too obvious seven up seven up

[01:18:14] like liby who talks about seven up nowadays yeah fair okay i did have a okay so you know when you can

[01:18:20] tell in a right like when someone's writing a sitcom okay or like a tv show and you're like okay in

[01:18:24] the writer's room what did that conversation look like about what exactly the joke was going to be

[01:18:28] that was me being like coca-cola diet coke pepsi and i landed on seven up as being i think the

[01:18:35] optimal drink i don't know i was debating she not in phanta as an option but we landed on seven

[01:18:40] up okay last two questions still zero zero eventually mike don't worry no it's like a soccer game

[01:18:48] exactly all right mike we're gonna go back to you so the casuals not only did they raise questions

[01:18:55] they're also asking questions okay so these are all questions that the casuals had

[01:19:02] a who built those steps at camp seems fishy b been watching since season one where are all the bug

[01:19:12] bites that they should have c has anyone noticed that the tribes are dressed in the same color as

[01:19:20] their buff or question d my question is there are daily multiple earthquakes affecting the island

[01:19:30] and surrounding islands nothing has ever been said about any of them i would like jeff to mention

[01:19:35] how it affects the players i look at the earthquake map every day and i voted for biden and i love seven

[01:19:43] up oh man i also i love that that's not a question like that is just incredible writing

[01:19:52] so if it's for you to you absolute kudos they said i have a question proceeded to write

[01:19:57] several sentences that did not have a question mark contained well formatted well formatted so then

[01:20:04] we have a bunch of obvious things that we know though again last week proved that not all super

[01:20:09] fans are necessarily paying attention to the nitty gritty of the details everyone dressed like

[01:20:15] see i would say that like oh everyone's dressed like they're buffs but we saw with like venus's

[01:20:20] purple top with the yanni tribe that that's not the case suspicious can you remind me of a

[01:20:25] and b again a was who built those steps at camp seems fishy and b is i've been watching it since

[01:20:33] season one where are all the bug bites that they should have i'm gonna go with b for bug bites

[01:20:40] it was a no that's a camp seems fishy seems fishy i'm so glad that the earth i'm

[01:20:48] wondering how that earthquake person felt about the recent one that hit the tri-state area

[01:20:51] that's why i thought it was a deal like there's no way like you found the earthquake comment so

[01:20:55] that's so topical i don't imagine they were on the survivor facebook page jayman will

[01:20:59] feel that earthquake that's the first place i went i'm in new york i didn't feel a damn thing

[01:21:05] like it might just be no i didn't i didn't feel anything either and supposedly we got it here

[01:21:11] so i don't know we are just like because i was just imagining you in the lab like all this

[01:21:17] glassware shadow i was in a meeting so i just like to think that i was just so focused working

[01:21:22] so hard in the meeting that like i didn't notice i had no such excuse i was just on my computer and

[01:21:27] like my mom dances a text me it's like are you okay i'm just like yes yes like why i'm i'm okay

[01:21:34] why are you asking i was sitting in this very room and i wasn't recording but i the microphone

[01:21:39] kept jostling back and forth and i'm like oh i guess the washing machine's going pretty hard

[01:21:44] i didn't realize it was earthquake until a few minutes afterwards yeah

[01:21:49] okay so this is our last question i got we have a riveting score of zero zero still i can't lose

[01:21:56] you can't lose exactly right you can't lose so here is and now your topic is just

[01:22:02] potpourri okay so just an assortment of random things that the casuals have opinions on

[01:22:09] love love that okay comment a they could have given the no winners at least a dry biscuit for making it

[01:22:19] to the merge just comment a comment b enough with the chit chat already can we please play a game

[01:22:30] eat a crocodile something anything what are those things is not like eat a crocodile

[01:22:39] like cancel christmas is this a phrase once again no okay so that's bc i'm building a life-size replica

[01:22:49] of the fijian beach out of coconuts in my backyard or d and i will i will say because i don't know

[01:22:59] how to read this appropriately but this is in all caps the whole thing in all caps survivor just

[01:23:06] not like it used to be i record all shows and fast forward the majority of them need more boston

[01:23:11] rob days and then there's the like the little red cheek emoji that's like

[01:23:22] if you wrote that one i swear what would a again a was they could have given the no winners at

[01:23:30] least a dry biscuit for making it to the merge all cc was i'm building a life-size replica of the

[01:23:38] fijian beach out of coconuts in my backyard old b b was enough with the chit chat already can we

[01:23:49] please play a game eat a crocodile something anything i'm gonna say see that is correct

[01:23:56] yeah we did it our first point of the game goes to dwight and that means that dwight is the winner

[01:24:03] one zero it was it was neck and neck like that puzzle yes exactly so uh yes that one that one was

[01:24:12] fake the rest were real so congratulations dwight the champion of our casuals corner i'm actually

[01:24:20] surprised leon there wasn't a like banu specific category because i would imagine they had so many

[01:24:25] thoughts in them they were probably still talking about him two weeks later surprisingly is no i was

[01:24:31] actually quite shocked because there are most contestants that have such a such a big impact

[01:24:37] on people they persist right like they'll still be showing up in comments but even looking through

[01:24:42] the other comments because i pull a ton right and then i organize them based on categories

[01:24:46] and even in i had one category they didn't end up using that were essentially like

[01:24:51] a million opinions in one comment so for example there was like um ben and his musical persona are

[01:24:58] getting redundant soda is a knockoff marianne tevin thinks he's running the show lis literally is

[01:25:03] there acting like she doesn't even need the money even in those that was one comment even in all of

[01:25:08] those banu nowhere so i don't know i would be very interested i'm assuming calish is reading

[01:25:15] the comments every week so maybe he can go back and say like what was the opinion on banu

[01:25:19] because yeah he did not show up really anywhere that's so much in general how did it because it seems

[01:25:25] like i was expecting just a sheep of negativity on them but it sounds like they're they're like

[01:25:30] adapting to the quirkiness of these contestants i feel like leon was choosing one show i've looked

[01:25:37] yeah yeah so do i get to second point um so here's the other category i didn't end up using

[01:25:44] which was like general thoughts on the cast so we'll just go very quick fire on this one

[01:25:50] worst cast of all time i'm just watching for the scenery cast is not very likable cast is super annoying

[01:25:56] i don't want to be stuck with them um something's missing the players don't have the right personalities

[01:26:01] for the show cast better people the season does not rock god i don't like this season at all the

[01:26:07] fans are so like this cast is so entertaining like i agree oh i love it i love this cast we ran

[01:26:14] through so many things even something like you know q saying like well farewell buff it's been great

[01:26:20] and tippy's like fuck no it has it and then just like eats it into the fire like it's just these

[01:26:25] this is a very i think underratedly funny season it's tough because there's like again a lot of

[01:26:31] charged emotions behind the contestants and the fans and obviously there was a lot of stuff involved

[01:26:36] with the yannu tribe in particular early on but even something like one group and mergetory

[01:26:42] knowing how stacked things are against them that they run through all of their heights

[01:26:47] in such a jovial fashion it's just such a fun energy to me yeah you're having fun with it also

[01:26:52] like this cast like 90 minutes for 45 they planned around with twists you're we're getting character

[01:26:58] moments in 46 because of the 90 minutes because they didn't plan for it and i think it's it's

[01:27:02] showing a lot more of the players which some maybe the casuals can't handle seeing people that are

[01:27:07] emotional sometimes or playing with a bit more like ferocity which i i like seeing all these small

[01:27:13] things and i don't know the casuals just being the casuals and you know everything's miserable

[01:27:17] everything sucks about the new era blah blah blah the casting sucks the game sucks the fan

[01:27:21] the cast better people cast real players yeah like oh my god shut up um yeah it's tough

[01:27:27] because like i do think this is a pretty polarizing cast like i do think because of the

[01:27:32] new era because the structure has been so similarly ingrained especially the past seasons like

[01:27:37] they live and die by their cast and so this group of players i could very much see okay either you are

[01:27:43] sort of glomming on to i'm not really vibing with anybody right now so there's not really anyone

[01:27:47] i'm attaching my emotions to or you're like i'm here for the mess these people are clearly

[01:27:52] absolutely wackadoo and one of these wackadoos is going to win i think all of us are kind

[01:27:57] of in the latter category but i don't necessarily bemoan anyone who's in the former

[01:28:00] categories well i mean someone like something like 44 kind of had a similar trajectory to it

[01:28:05] but also kind of lived and died by the likability of its cast yeah yeah completely agree all right so

[01:28:13] winner winner chicken dinner chawaii we're gonna continue on your spotlight laden path here as

[01:28:20] always you get the chance to highlight a charity or cause that is important to you for the listeners

[01:28:25] to find out about what would you like to spotlight here oh god uh i think i said what did i say last time

[01:28:31] i think that thing too now you have to make me do research all right i'll try i think i

[01:28:35] think you last time i believe you did as well but yeah wrong on the house like they're very good

[01:28:42] well they have local ones also like we have a local one here as well

[01:28:45] yes they find local one they're very good um because i know people who know use them

[01:28:50] like ben benivin number four so like oh god it's a really good organization as well um so yeah

[01:28:55] definitely look into that find the local local one for you and say donate support in some way that you

[01:29:00] can should the merch fees be sponsored by mcdonald's um no i don't want to sit into the ocean and you

[01:29:08] know for adidas i don't need that no sorry apple bees though we'll take it okay do that again

[01:29:16] so here's a question actually where is the sanctuary

[01:29:21] your good things happen we haven't seen it yet this season now the merch piece has now kind of

[01:29:26] happened just somewhere away from camp yeah the merch pieces like it's on the same because like

[01:29:31] they had the rush for you at art it's literally just down the beach like yeah baka or not baka

[01:29:36] whatever island this is for them it's the same as baka it's just one long beach and they just said

[01:29:42] yeah walk down y'all turn here the rest of y'all keep going losers so it's just like okay um i'm not

[01:29:50] sure what the sanctuary is i don't yeah no i didn't yeah i it's on some island somewhere but uh this

[01:29:55] season don't need it apparently bad things have happened we don't need it no good things you deserve

[01:30:01] nothing sanctuary's turned into or bad things happen maybe we'll see maybe we'll see it with

[01:30:06] individual like rewards probably yeah well i would imagine well it's interesting because last season

[01:30:13] they had the merge feast at the sanctuary so i don't know maybe they were still cleaning it up from

[01:30:17] the rager that the women had there during boys night i'm not sure but they also had it in

[01:30:22] the next episode as well where the winning group that still had to go to tribal council went to

[01:30:27] the sanctuary before they went off to their camp so it might appear next season or like

[01:30:32] the sanctuary may have lucky taken the season off listen everyone needs a break okay the sanctuary

[01:30:37] just give it some time it was overworked last season okay just don't well it'll be time again

[01:30:42] maybe they got sued like is there a the sanctuary like a restaurant or like a hotel or

[01:30:48] like a so would they get sued in between filming of 45 and 46 did someone fly out be like

[01:30:54] act i heard what you were doing out here stop this right now like yeah what i could only get

[01:30:58] a flight in late may in early june you already filled the season all right well you can keep it

[01:31:03] for that one but swear to god after that that's right you're done yeah

[01:31:11] well so why you are not getting a season assist anytime soon from either coming on the b&b or

[01:31:15] putting out all the great content that you do this was so much fun as per usual you are

[01:31:20] streaming up a storm on the weekly you talk about loving game structure i think you have really

[01:31:26] brought a new game until i know that both the lives of liana and myself as well as a lot of

[01:31:29] people there with blood on the clock tower which has had several survivor based guests

[01:31:34] uh why don't you want to yeah exactly you want to plug it in anything else you're doing yeah

[01:31:38] i said yeah doing clock on the clock tower streams basically every Saturday at this point um

[01:31:44] i was talking to chad i think i'm gonna do like every Saturday except for one a month i'll do

[01:31:47] like three out of four in a month because i have a lot of a lot more interest in it which

[01:31:51] i didn't expect but yeah i've been really loving that it's like social deduction mafia s but like on

[01:31:55] steroids i love it i love running the game hopefully y'all been having problems with it too but yeah

[01:31:59] doing out twitch at doing more is the handle doing and then more my last name the only

[01:32:04] creative mode in my body took me to make that like i have nothing else creative that took me like

[01:32:08] a day and half to think of so nothing else from me uh but yeah i don't really do anything

[01:32:13] else twitter i guess i don't write more on twitter i don't instagram if you follow me there

[01:32:18] sorry i don't post lol uh that's it that's all i do mainly twitch though follow me on twitch i like

[01:32:25] i like streaming it's fun all right liana after a week off you are back into your usual rotation

[01:32:30] what would you like to plug yes back in the game pui has been really sick so we haven't recorded

[01:32:36] my singer yet so at some point we'll get around we might get a double episode next week we'll

[01:32:40] see depending on how he's feeling but a drag race is back in full swing we're gonna be

[01:32:44] talking about episode 14 i can't believe we are almost done with the season i i don't even know

[01:32:51] anyway so check that out on the drag race feed and then you can follow me on twitter at liana rjp

[01:32:56] a very q focused episode lot of q lot of q and you can follow me on drag race

[01:33:03] there is simultaneously and just q like the letter q so both a q on survivor and drag race at the

[01:33:09] same time it's hilarious to see the crossover because some someone like on the survivor red

[01:33:14] it will comment like q blah blah blah and someone will reply to it referring to the drag race q it's

[01:33:19] so fun and also q is q had a storyline throughout the drag race season or like she would lose things

[01:33:24] and she would kind of have like what is my path has to be the hardest path kind of confessional

[01:33:35] so you can follow me at a mic bloom type as mentioned before i got the chance to speak

[01:33:39] with mariah which was a lot of fun again i absolutely love just getting sound bites

[01:33:43] from her and she gave a lot of perspective as to her approach and sega's approach to this

[01:33:48] unification until the last minute reveal of the truth at tribal council she gets to the

[01:33:52] bottom of this whole jumping fiasco that happened with her so i'm glad i was able to

[01:33:57] jump in and have a chat with her also talked with the latest team eliminated from the amazing

[01:34:02] race which was a very fun conversation and did a podcast as well with season 27

[01:34:06] runner up justin and then uh posher recaps is done and dusted down the hatch is going to

[01:34:12] keep going for one more week before we take a little bit of a goddess to get our stuff back in

[01:34:16] gear last thing i'll plug is that the challenge all stars season four is coming to paramount plus

[01:34:21] i have an interview coming out tomorrow on the day we're recording this with a pretty big name

[01:34:26] from the season so if you're a challenge fan you can check that out all the stuff that i

[01:34:30] advertise on social media at a mic bloom type of course you can send us any game ideas

[01:34:36] that you have no idea we'll be sure to whatsoever we will not react a la everyone to venus suggesting

[01:34:42] charlie we are welcome and open to any game ideas you have rjp bnb at gmail.com or hashtag rjp

[01:34:49] bnb on social media next week leon and i will be back to break down the double tribal council

[01:34:56] we will see our last pre juror and our first juror crowned within the same episode uh we

[01:35:03] shall see what that might entail it looks like the segas might be in trouble looks like venus

[01:35:08] might be in trouble if she'll go the way of calib of survive the night but not the next episode

[01:35:13] we'll see though uh you know maybe now that these people finally feel like they have room to play

[01:35:17] they could start making some wild moves happen no matter what we'll be breaking it all down

[01:35:22] guest tba still trying to put some gears into motion but no matter what we'll be back playing

[01:35:27] some games and breaking it all down a special thanks to the entire rjp team behind the scenes

[01:35:32] for letting this podcast be packaged so beautifully for your eyes and ears and will from america for

[01:35:37] his fantastic theme song next week we'll go to episode several and break down the next phase

[01:35:43] of the game until next time everybody we'll check you out at your next day like a neonaga

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