Survivor 46 | RHAP B&B Ep 10 with Justin McElroy

[00:00:00] Mike and the Honor gather playin' some games

[00:00:04] But I pray to your mama that they're not super lame

[00:00:08] And if that all sounds cool, I can tell you the name

[00:00:12] It's the RHAP-B-M-B

[00:00:16] Mike and the Honor gather playin' some games

[00:00:20] But I pray to your mama that they're not super lame

[00:00:24] And if that all sounds cool, I can tell you the name

[00:00:28] It's the RHAP-M-B-M-B

[00:00:32] Hi everybody and welcome to the RHAP-Apple BNBs

[00:00:36] That's right, it's a corporate takeover

[00:00:40] I'm Ashil and I'm also Mike Bloom

[00:00:44] Here to break down an episode

[00:00:48] We were eating good this week in the neighborhood and beyond

[00:00:52] As we are talking about episode 10 of Survivor 46

[00:00:56] I mean, indescribable would be the way to describe it

[00:01:00] We have certainly a lot to get into

[00:01:04] Mainly around the reward herd around the world

[00:01:08] But of course let me welcome in our illustrious panel who I will gladly bring along with me

[00:01:12] No shunning of our panel today

[00:01:16] First off, I would call her the exact opposite of a hoe bag

[00:01:20] Which I guess is like a chased satchel, Leonoboris

[00:01:24] Well, somehow to me, I don't know

[00:01:28] I don't know why a satchel is the opposite of a bag, they feel very synonymous in my mind

[00:01:32] So maybe you can workshop that a bit

[00:01:36] But I just, my impression of the season feels like it made a bet

[00:01:40] That it needs to one up itself each episode

[00:01:44] And somehow it's continuing to happen with one of the most interesting interactions

[00:01:48] That I've seen on Survivor in a while, so I have been looking forward to this all week

[00:01:52] And I think it's interesting is a great way to put it because yeah, I can't really make heads or tails as to how I feel about it

[00:01:56] But maybe it'll be better to find by our guest

[00:02:00] And I'm so excited not only because I love bringing this guy

[00:02:04] He's one of my favorite podcasters out there but the very first time he came onto our podcast

[00:02:08] Back in Survivor 41

[00:02:12] He had said that one of his favorite funny parts in Survivor history

[00:02:16] Was when everyone was losing their shit over the idea

[00:02:20] Of having Applebee's as a reward and how we have come

[00:02:24] So full circle over the course of two and a half years

[00:02:28] So elated to welcome back for yet another Applebee's related incident

[00:02:32] The great Justin McElroy

[00:02:36] I'm pissed! I see you guys eating every day!

[00:02:40] Hi, hi everyone, Justin McElroy here

[00:02:47] What a pleasure it is to be here

[00:02:51] Obviously from a noise perspective, but on video it does look like someone just left the camera on the ground while Liz was doing her monologue

[00:02:57] It just missed out on the entire thing

[00:03:01] Yeah I didn't want to blow out anybody's headphones

[00:03:03] Hi, welcome, thanks for having me back on this podcast

[00:03:07] It is such a relief to be able to vent my whatever gland

[00:03:13] Stores things I want to stay about Survivor to be able to flush those toxins from my body

[00:03:19] Listen, Jeff Probst said this week there's no shame in expressing what your emotions might be

[00:03:25] So look if we have to meet Liz at the time that she is with our fervor and emotional excitement, so be it

[00:03:31] But Justin, a little bit behind the scenes info, you would reach out to me basically be like

[00:03:35] I gotta talk about this season

[00:03:37] Yeah so talk to me about that

[00:03:39] What led you to make that reach out?

[00:03:41] It's just the knowledge that you're living through an all-timer

[00:03:47] And just wanting to get, I mean I've been evangelical about Survivor this season in a way where I've told people

[00:03:53] Even if you've never watched this show in your life

[00:03:57] You need to watch the most demented cast of people I've ever seen

[00:04:05] And what's great about this season is from the very first episode everyone is like

[00:04:13] Wow okay, huh, hmm never seen that before

[00:04:17] Woo that's a heck of a thing

[00:04:19] I mean you had a guy I think Q a couple episodes ago

[00:04:25] In a sense like did you get the sense that he broke Survivor?

[00:04:31] Like Survivor you watched Survivor break where everyone was like

[00:04:35] It's the equivalent of playing Risk and like flipping the whole world map

[00:04:39] And he was like, well man I don't really know if he wants to go home

[00:04:43] I mean that's not really, we don't really have a protocol for that

[00:04:47] And I feel like the game has continued to be in the shadow of that

[00:04:53] It was already all-timer before that but like in the shadow of that I feel like Q has occupied this weird space where it's like

[00:05:01] I have no, you cannot predict what this human being will do

[00:05:05] He just proved it, he just shoved all of his chips across the table

[00:05:09] And no one took him up on it

[00:05:11] He was just like why I guess I'll take the chip back I guess

[00:05:14] Well not only that now they're saying hey we'll give you chips

[00:05:17] Don't worry like they might think that you're going to lose this hand

[00:05:21] But I'm going to hand you cards underneath the table to actually keep you in the game over other people

[00:05:25] Yeah it's been a very bizarre season of

[00:05:31] I say that about all-timer but I have, especially watching this season or this episode rather

[00:05:39] I do feel like as entertaining as these individual episodes are

[00:05:45] I don't know how well

[00:05:49] I'm starting at the suspicion, I don't know how well it's all congealing together narratively

[00:05:55] Because I really feel like with all the super chaotic play

[00:06:01] It's almost gotten a little bit hard to I feel like get a sense

[00:06:06] Like it's hard to even be surprised because I don't even have a sense of how the wind is blowing a lot of the times

[00:06:12] And that's the game for a lot of these people I feel like they're living in that space

[00:06:16] But it's like I don't know it's weird to see there's so much chaos

[00:06:20] You almost don't get a sense of like I mean any sort of alignment or loyalty or any of those sorts of interactions it's so cutthroat

[00:06:28] Well that's the thing with subverting expectations is there have to be expectations in the first place

[00:06:34] This season is just completely thrown them out the window

[00:06:37] If you expect the messiest possible thing every week it's like yeah there it is again

[00:06:42] Yes exactly we got it again now they're doing it in very different ways

[00:06:46] Which is why it seems to still be getting its head thrown all around

[00:06:50] But like you said about Q it was a very shell shock moment almost of

[00:06:54] We set up the way survivor is you know supposed to go and you just have no idea and it was the fans included

[00:07:01] I still was thinking there's gotta be strategy there's gotta be strategy behind it because who's the ace that way

[00:07:06] It's so out of the ordinary

[00:07:08] There's gotta be a plan

[00:07:10] And I think that you saw it's interesting in this I'm sorry if we're just do you have a

[00:07:14] You know I feel like I'm just babbling about

[00:07:16] Dude dive in this is all you

[00:07:18] I don't know

[00:07:20] I feel like you have seen and again if I'm echoing things you already talked about it this season I apologize

[00:07:26] But I feel like you've seen a real like over extension towards like jury concern

[00:07:35] And like voting concern like when you saw in this moment you know

[00:07:41] Talk to Kinsley talking about like her having to eliminate her number one and it's like such a big step on your path towards like winning survivor

[00:07:50] It's like is it I mean is it because I feel like maybe people kind of like playing together usually get a little bit farther rather than cutting out your number one best ally

[00:08:03] What six seven eight eighth I mean that she nearly cut her out nine she really cut her out last week

[00:08:11] Yeah, yeah, it's weird. I feel like everyone is getting like so far ahead of themselves. I don't I feel like the people are starting to like count numbers on jury so early

[00:08:24] Like before they've gotten anywhere near the jury like they're like putting the cart so far before the horse

[00:08:31] Yeah, I completely agree and I mean the odd phenomenon about it is that when everyone is playing this weirdly it sort of becomes normal to them

[00:08:40] And that it only makes sense they're like well we just saw that Tevin flipped on soda and Liz flipped on Tevin and Q flipped on Tiffany so I guess I have to keep doing this

[00:08:49] Yeah, that's what people do this season when yeah in any other season of survivor we look at this as like one person doing this one time

[00:08:58] Not half the cast doing it to their number one at some part but then again to Leon's point take that decision and then go the oddest round where Kenzie relents on the decision this round she's like I don't think it's the time

[00:09:11] and Rhea is like all I heard was both gonna do that yeah

[00:09:19] And I mean it could end up working in her favor right for Kenzie like that's the thing is that we just don't have a sense of what the jury is thinking and how this is ultimately going to play out because obviously they have their own perceptions of how they feel the jury is going to think of their game when they get to the end

[00:09:34] And so I think that's what we're going to be thinking about again in sort of the weirdest keeping up with the Joneses of putting out your closest ally but who knows right like that might not end up being the criteria that the jury ends up using and we don't really have a sense of that of what moves are truly being credited

[00:09:51] I think that also makes it quite difficult to decide like who's actually playing well like is anyone playing well I will say I felt like this I didn't I don't love the I feel like the flip flopping back and forth on Tiff is kind of like worst of both worlds so I think that's kind of rough.

[00:10:10] I feel like now that Kenzie has dropped some of the, I do think you're seeing her evolve pretty quickly as a player in these late stages. I find her a lot more interesting to watch now that she's stopped trying to put up the appearance that she is everybody's friend, like everybody is her is her pal I feel like, as much as I

[00:10:29] feel like early where you're trying to like, you know, keep a bunch of mini alliances together. I feel like with with now that she is having to like scrap a bit more to keep her place and less able to float I think that she is a lot more interesting to watch.

[00:10:46] And it's proven herself to at least have a plan.

[00:10:50] Which a lot of these people don't seem to.

[00:10:52] Yeah, I mean, to that point though the people I have to give massive kudos to and the people who I think are behind the biggest move of the season are Maria and Charlie.

[00:11:02] Maria is the one that really gets a lot of the narrative focus in this episode she comes in being like, yeah, come here Q I know nobody else likes you.

[00:11:10] But I do and the fact is from our perspective, she was the one to bring together Q and the woman who vociferously tore into him a day ago.

[00:11:23] Yeah, actually vote together to save him like absolutely remarkable I will include Charlie and on this because they seem to be in lockstep he was committed to the tippy plant then also apparently according to I got the chance to of course talk with Tiffany and will

[00:11:36] of course out some tidbits throughout. Apparently, the reason Tiffany didn't play her idol is because Charlie had convinced her, hey, don't play it will get rid of Q this round and then next time we'll use it to take out Maria.

[00:11:49] And so I don't know if Charlie is going to you know do that in the next episode anyway but it seems like at least my read is he had her properly snowed to not have her play her idle so they could actually vote her out with it despite the fact that a day ago she

[00:12:05] was like, nope I'm playing this you're never going to get me to not play this. I feel like they need there is there have been some gaps with both Hunter and Tiffany in the edit to help me understand why they wouldn't because it seems so out of left field, especially with Hunter, my dude was saying it

[00:12:24] I'm playing it like good Hunter you're going to need to and then he just got to get saluted within his pockets like what snow there's no real like, I think that's again playing for the jury rather than playing for the week right like if I can hold this on for two more weeks I you know I think

[00:12:40] they're also side effective, not really having alliances or loyalty to speak of like people are really just trying to like do whatever it takes to get by, you know week by week and I think it's wild especially this season.

[00:12:55] Just play it, play it. I mean, I don't know.

[00:12:59] I agree and that's the thing that we didn't see is because sometimes we'll get this. Obviously the editors want to keep up the suspense of Oh, will he won't he like is it going to is he going to go home or not, but we'll get a confessional that's okay so I have my idle I'm thinking of playing it but blah blah blah or at least something

[00:13:16] that sets up the decision point for the person who has the idle and I feel like in both of these cases both for Tiffany and Hunter we never got that really it was just oh I have the idle I'm going to play it, not the will they won't they was more the will they won't

[00:13:29] they especially in this episode about Liz flipping that right to be more the concern which then it does feel a little empty when you don't know why Tiffany didn't play your idle.

[00:13:37] It's interesting because Leonie point out just like all of the odd expectations that we have going into this episode and then almost always being subverted because it is also wild to me how incredibly similar these circumstances were between the two people that we're

[00:13:52] talking about that Jeff actually lamp needed him in lampshaded it builds the whole freaking lamp.

[00:13:58] And he said, Hey Tiffany remind me if you heard this before. Here comes somebody coming in who has an idle who says they're going to play an idle where the information is public and everyone said it was Q, and it wasn't Q.

[00:14:10] Does that sound familiar to you and Tiffany's like, yes but this time it'll work for me don't you worry how do you not expect that result to happen.

[00:14:18] It's baffling to me I mean, honestly, unless some of these people are like all timers like unless they're like all time manipulators but like if that is the case, you would expect some level of coherence from the play right

[00:14:34] like unless someone's like master level pulling the state of all it's all this is all my plan. I anticipated Q trying to quit survivor.

[00:14:43] Well, that's the wild thing is that again from what we're being shown these people might be some of like the best outright liars at tribal council I have ever seen where you have Liz explicitly saying I'm never going to work with Q again.

[00:14:58] When you have been being like yep, I'm done with him when Jeff asked oh can anyone work with you we have three people who all two of which end up voting with Q to keep Q are shaking their heads.

[00:15:10] I don't know if this is the case with previous seasons and I either don't remember it or it wasn't shown but it felt like honestly since like maybe the gem vote.

[00:15:18] We have had these wild tribal councils on one level but on even at another level these people are just selling so much bullshit to the person who's throat they're about to cut.

[00:15:28] Yeah, I don't blame them that much for sometimes like taking it face value survivor got a lot of people's faces right it's part of the part of the deal.

[00:15:39] I think it does also reveal a little bit of a flaw with the I feel like too much time maybe is being spent on storylines about advantages and idols and like weird side challenges and all that kind of stuff where if you look, I feel like most of those like how much

[00:16:04] time was spent finding idols that didn't get used at all you know like how many like I wonder if we would have a better sense of everyone's motivation if earlier in the season, we were like learning more about people and their interactions

[00:16:18] relationships versus like some bogus you know there will be an idol here when you lose so come back later for it like I just I wonder if maybe a little bit more the human interaction earlier would make some of these motivations a little bit more, more clear or if you'd have

[00:16:34] more of a sense of who some of like I still don't feel like I have a great read on Maria like I don't I don't feel like I mean she's coming into it but she hasn't had much time I feel like leading up to it but I don't know.

[00:16:47] Yeah, Maria is really interesting because although she's shown in this episode to really be the one that's driving the move it still doesn't feel like she's getting a ton of storyline behind it or credit or motivation it almost just feels like the bare minimum that was necessary to explain why this move

[00:17:03] happened.

[00:17:04] Like maybe she's a less compelling screen presence than some of the other people and so she's getting a little bit of a bum edit as a result I mean not to be not not not like she's flat or but you have some of these people that are just going buck wild every week.

[00:17:19] That's the thing is like yeah it's tough and then even like by comparison with her closest ally Charlie I could see a world where they feel like Charlie has zingers you know but against that point I thought Maria is confessional this week about running the red light was like pretty damn bad

[00:17:33] so it's not like she was cast on the show for a reason she certainly is not without character. Listen, we got we have been putting this massive car before the horse right now we got to talk about this Apple bees melt down Holy Moly

[00:17:49] good Lord I mean I don't think I've ever seen something to this magnitude on reality television let alone survivor.

[00:17:59] No, but I live in West Virginia so I have seen something of this magnitude at an Apple bees long waits on Sunday, you know that sort of thing but no not on not on survivor that I can recall I think this is as full bore, as I've seen anyone get on survivor.

[00:18:16] Right, and I certainly survivor for sure. I think that like this type of interaction is something that they I don't I mean there so there were pieces that I know got cut with Maria and or who volunteered.

[00:18:31] So yeah here's the here's the thing to think that this was an absolutely wild scene and that oh Q made this huge shrewd move and not inviting Liz who hasn't made it to eat anything it has this weekly tradition with her daughter and Apple bees.

[00:18:46] It could have been a lot worse, because knowing of course the emotional attachment and nutritional attachment that Liz has to Apple bees.

[00:18:55] Kenzie and Maria.

[00:18:58] It's a low bar, it's a low bar.

[00:19:01] But Kenzie and Maria had both offered their spots.

[00:19:06] But Q said, no.

[00:19:12] I believe the direct quote from Q was like, I picked who I picked.

[00:19:18] I'm not I don't want to bring Liz we're going to Apple bees and because it's his one year reward singularly like I think technically through the legal ease he was the one that could dictate who does well at a certain point like I don't want to bring Liz after I already told

[00:19:34] you, I can't have Apple bees. This is hard to deal with as it is not like oh there's such a church rabble be like fourth choice for Apple bees.

[00:19:43] Oh, my God.

[00:19:44] This is what I'm talking about right. It does it.

[00:19:48] What is Q doing. And I don't mean like it's bad. I mean like what is Q doing like I guess.

[00:19:56] I maybe trying to reengrae shade himself. I mean after him trying to commit sepicoe a few weeks back it's like, it's so hard to judge what any of the actions mean anymore but like, why not try to at least make a lot of these people aren't even making

[00:20:13] the effort to try to stay on folks's good side. And there's like not a lot of people left and there still be like just openly hostile to each other. It's like wow I hope you're looking for an idol pal because you are not the like to be around.

[00:20:25] Well, I think that's the thing is there's sort of a general expectation of if you're in that situation as human beings like collectively we would agree like oh this is a person in suffering like let me do something nice for them and Q is just like, absolutely

[00:20:39] not the mic drop moment of him being like while you voted for me.

[00:20:44] Yeah, he responds to like her self emitted histrionics of her screaming in his face and look he talks all throughout this episode about like I fire people in the past and seems like he's just got a cold attitude towards it all absolute stone phase like yeah but you wrote my name down twice so like what what good or do you have to pay to me and this is interesting because listen I've

[00:21:06] certainly seen a lot of back and forth the past five days or so about like, oh my God, she was evil why would he do this oh Liz she's so entitled why does she think that she should get asked to do it.

[00:21:18] To be a little bit fancy fenstrogen I do see both sides here were like, Liz it sucks for her and she herself knew that like she was never going to pick her what did they think is where that rage came from but obviously being at the end of her

[00:21:30] rope from a physical perspective and then like getting this sort of for lack of a better term taste of home kind of yanked out of her mouth at the last second must be tough and she was just clearly letting out those bottled emotions in that moment, but also Q doesn't know her

[00:21:44] as we're talking about like it be I think something nine out of 10 people would do just either to be like quote unquote a nice person or to say hey maybe this good will can work back at it.

[00:21:55] Q has put himself in such a unique position where he's like, nah, this is a dead vote. I can't I got to burn that you know it's a gangriness limit needs to be chopped off which is an ironic when the limb crawls back and ends up saving Q's life at the end of the episode.

[00:22:09] It worked again it worked. Exactly that was part of his strategy.

[00:22:14] He's a counsel but it's his plan which is wild like I I thought for a second that maybe any idea like could have been prospectively sunk if Liz who remember was all about I want to have a move to take credit for Q you blew up my game.

[00:22:33] If Q decides in that moment. Nope it's actually my move I thought there was a non zero chance that Liz would flip back she's like no screw you know this is my move this is not your move stop trying to do that.

[00:22:43] Yeah, it's yeah it is weird that that they have so little concern, not just for each other as human beings, but I think but as like maybe at some point.

[00:22:55] It's so deliberately cruel in a way that he like he will not be able to walk not cruel that's not it is cruel through indifference.

[00:23:05] And it's so deliberately cruel that you can't walk it back and like it can see wouldn't have expected hit like I don't even think can see would have been upset it's like yeah figures yeah we haven't been getting along great like, like, I don't know it seems so needlessly punitive.

[00:23:22] Yeah, I mean Tiffany was like, uh, okay, I was just yelling at you the day before but if Q will show anything apparently in these two episodes which is like, hey if you scream and we all you want, I'm probably going to work with you the next day.

[00:23:35] It makes me more inclined to do so.

[00:23:37] Yeah, I'm just going to create a random blood feud with this person real quick. How many left eight.

[00:23:42] Yeah, it's fine.

[00:23:44] Why that's also what is it's just, and we as commentators we want to try to understand and analyze what people's thought processes were why did they make this decision and Q has just been such a blind spot for me from that moment where he said vote me out that just trying to understand like what do you stand to gain from saying this woman who is saying

[00:24:05] like I will bet what she say I can't I'm going to beg I'm pissed blah blah blah so many things and he's still just like now I'm good thank you.

[00:24:15] And then to top it all off, they go to the sanctuary where good things happen. And here comes the burger that Liz will spend the entire episode.

[00:24:26] May, may Mike season if I have to guess.

[00:24:30] Perhaps,

[00:24:32] describing, and they don't even touch it. I think I see Maria like poking at it briefly but they're all so full that Liz is price possession. They say, yeah, it's fine. We'll let it run away.

[00:24:51] I think they did that on purpose, like they brought it out last on purpose they were like we're going to make them fill up on everything else to get this like taking her burger dream away shot.

[00:25:03] God. It's a from what I heard. I've heard through sources that know the or and just like watching the show Hunter was catching a lot of fish. Yeah.

[00:25:19] And Liz can't make fires and Tevin was making the fires. So from what I heard Hunter is catching food for Liz, and then Tevin was building fires for Liz. And then Liz was like,

[00:25:34] after they're out Liz didn't have any food sources anymore. And so I think some of the lack of pity maybe was was derived from that from Liz's inability to to feed herself.

[00:25:49] I don't know. There's a lot of anger there on Q's we have towards Liz that didn't see coming. The other thing too is we get the individual rice portion because I think part of the discussion was also well how much is on production for you take this woman who's allergic to everything on the island you stick

[00:26:04] to the island like it's not a health risk at some perspective. So was this you know we bring back the rice negotiations and was this individual rice away to mitigate like Liz is freaking out.

[00:26:17] It was the jar the jar should have had Liz written on it. It would have been more a little bit more.

[00:26:25] I'm just going to give this to you right now.

[00:26:29] You can sit here eat this handful of tried rice as you sit out the challenge because we both we all know what's going to happen here. I love that as well that like of course Jeff is trying to bring back the rice negotiation and once again these people are not even meeting a

[00:26:44] They're like that let's get out because she's dying and was deprived Applebee's but we're fine. We're all pretty much good.

[00:26:57] I man I will say this I I feel like the and you are obviously much better students of the game than the me so hopefully you can fill in whatever I'm missing here but I feel like food scarcity has been much more of a thing

[00:27:16] in recent years than when I was younger watching I feel like it would just sort of assume that like base needs like there's enough rice for them they've only been eating rice but there's enough rice right like it hasn't it didn't seem like the scarcity was as much of a of a thing and

[00:27:32] And I personally as a viewer. I don't love watching people starve like I don't get any entertainment out of knowing that every like not everybody has enough food for starters like that is a real world situation that is like shouldn't

[00:27:49] I think it's weird to derive entertainment from also like I would rather see people who are like at least have enough glucose in their brain to strategize and like physically compete in the challenges and do the things they need to do without worrying about like the food aspect of it because I don't know I feel like I don't I don't get a lot of joy from that part of it I wish like it was just assumed that like there's enough rice and so let's talk about other

[00:28:17] things let's move on to other things that's just me but I personally yeah so I mean the new era is all about this element that you are personally not a fan of right that like it's more dangerous than ever you have to compete for it I mean I also think it's more at the forefront in this season a because this was the first time that they outwardly said no to the rice that was extended to them not once not twice but thrice and then on top of that you do have someone like Liz who has the most dietary restrictions out

[00:28:46] of anybody in survivor history so I do think that like they have had issues in the past but they've usually been given rice since the beginning and they usually have like the fishing gear and these big tribes of people to be able to like take turns going out I think it's just this odd maelstrom of the small tribes and to your point Liz perhaps voting out

[00:29:06] cutting off her own hands that would be feeding her combined with also the lack of rice from this absolutely wild cast also combined with Liz who has I don't know has just been probably eating like handfuls of sand for the better part of 12 days because there's not really much else to eat out there that she's not allergic to

[00:29:26] well I thought that it was because of the 26 day season that they cut some of the rations essentially to

[00:29:34] increase the difficult yeah yeah to sort of try to somewhat time match for the two different that was my understanding makes sense actually it makes a lot of sense

[00:29:43] that's true but I I'm with you Justin I also just feel like I want to see people that are going to do a good job strategizing and it's so some things really sad about it in my mind there's final challenges that stand out and because you see people so depleted

[00:30:00] like one of those final challenges it's just like they're so slow because they're just so they haven't eaten and that's just kind of sad so borderlines on like not an enjoyable experience

[00:30:12] also they're not going to let him die so what's the so there's no actual drama it's all artificial right because no one's going to dive service on survivor and like if they had to leave no one's ever left survivor for hunger right no one's ever been like I'm new I mean maybe as a side effect you could make that argument for some of this

[00:30:29] you but like I don't know it seems like a really artificial way of creating stakes where you know there there might be other more entertaining ways of doing it well Appleby's

[00:30:40] I was just saying we have now you're talking well that's I agree with you both all that is to say like Liz's reaction was pretty damn entertaining. Oh it was great it was it was incredible television from the moment she stood there and stark silence a moment

[00:30:59] she was spending time as she was about to turn around and launch into probably the most I have ever seen someone screaming another person in my entire life let alone in a television show it was absolutely riveting from the

[00:31:14] it's also pretty rare for survivor I feel like usually when there's a challenge that has been set up where a reward that's been set up to be really important to one person personally

[00:31:26] I feel like they usually find a way to let you see the scene of that person enjoying the thing that they so desperately want to enjoy maybe it's like okay you can pick three people to go with you you can pick four people to get you know we're just trying to get this one person who

[00:31:43] I feel like there's not a lot of times where they set up like wouldn't it be so cool if Liz got to eat. Jeff literally said yeah in the beginning when he was like it's my favorite tradition Jeff's like well that would be great if you won this challenge

[00:31:57] challenge I will say that I something else occurred to me while I was like watching the reward in the sanctuary it does it does make you wonder if this is the exact image Applebee's wants because I was watching thinking like it was pretty good Applebee's

[00:32:22] because it's been all staged right but the takeaway is these people who have not eaten anything are loving it and it does make you wonder like isn't that aren't you worried about that yeah if you're starving to death

[00:32:37] rich for Applebee's it is better than starving to death on a remote island it's like when Gulliver's travels it's like Gulliver's travels was in the movie they have they've been watching cave paintings they were watching each other draw on the sand

[00:32:54] Gulliver's travels is an excellent movie in those situations yeah survivor sponsorship really is the equivalent of any port in a storm of like well there's not existence or there's Applebee's

[00:33:04] right a whole bag of Doritos yeah absolutely what's the alternative dying yeah absolutely

[00:33:12] I maybe it's my simple little brain but I don't even get that far I'm like yeah Applebee's does sound really good

[00:33:20] I'm one of those people who's gonna shave here I do think it's a little I think it's a shame to offer Applebee's and not have a blondie on hand I would be a little sad about that to go for the Oreo shake just because we're promoting it please let's

[00:33:33] let's get to the classics Applebee's I want your I want your AD or stuff also folks I don't need it now to tell these contestants but my heart was really honestly breaking for the winners because we have had to it has taken years to prepare the American populace for cuisine like Applebee's

[00:33:53] we had to be to stair stepped up to that level of intensity your body the is not built to go from starvation to a bourbon street bacon cheeseburger Jeff are you insane it's gonna ravage they're they're just gonna ravage those people they're gonna be broken on the other end of that I hope they're full because that's the last pleasure they're

[00:34:18] gonna experience for quite some time that's the thing is that like you both again understandably talk about you know do we want to see people just lie catatonic starving unable to strategize do we also want people like lying next to of shit the size of their own body as they're just recoiling in pain from the gargantuan amount of Applebee

[00:34:39] it's truly truly they must know people break water fasts with strawberries like you cannot you simply can't eat a full multi cars Applebee's meal zero to 60 like that you're not ready

[00:35:00] oh my gosh I mean and exactly they got because of what they got the starter plate they got well and then alcohol any alcohol on top of bourbon street your body does not people drinking alcohol and survivor I think is one of the wildest things like you that's poison and I drink it love it over here huge fan not on an island it's poison you're putting in your body you cannot you should not be doing that and that's and that's the

[00:35:26] thing that people besides Liz were the most excited for like Jeff yeah the man who's and he goes and top it all off a blue cup of poison everyone's not even right that's that would put me down now because that's a that's also like what a fourth cup of thank you a fourth cup of blue curacao like it's like that's

[00:35:48] that's gonna be terrible forget it no way oh my gosh and he'd be hit with that first with nothing in your stomach oh yeah oh yeah Leona absolutely I guarantee 30 minutes in someone's like guys there's gotta be karaoke around somewhere let's go forget the Applebee's we gotta live

[00:36:05] I would say that ordinarily that would be the moment where people are like I just love you guys you're my family but this season it's the exact opposite like Q I just a reminder I hate your guts why did you bring me here I appreciate it but just as a reminder I can't stand you

[00:36:22] maybe we did needless on the reward imagine that interaction oh so how did remind me because I've been looking for it how did the final vote split out who was who is for who where are we at like by the end of this the three that were left out were Tiffany obviously

[00:36:38] Kenzie and Venus so it was the three seagulls which was Maria and Charlie and they brought in Ben by proxy obviously Q was in on it because Maria wanted to protect Q and Charlie has suggested that Liz was the vote to bring in over Venus and so those were the five now that being said you talk about the current of the season at this point I think it is as loose as the bowels of these contestants after

[00:37:05] Applebee's this is not going to be a five I think that sticks together very long especially with Liz and Q in the same group like Maria mausoleum to you for hurting these cats but they're going to do what they're going to do and eventually escape next vote it'll be interesting to see how

[00:37:19] Kenzie if Kenzie's big move you know was going to be eliminating Tiffany it'll be interesting to see how she regains some sort of appearance that she's like in any way sort of controlling things the I think

[00:37:35] Ben is in a rough position I think Ben's too much of a sweetheart to make it to the final three I feel like if you let a Ben get to the final three he walks away with it Q I feel like would be maybe the easiest person to beat in the history of survivor I mean if you if you want to talk about a final three where you're like well he quit so I should win I mean

[00:38:00] I mean let's basically quit let's throw out though the doomsday scenario to end all doomsday scenarios Q Venus and Liz in the final three who wins Q is so unpredictable who knows like maybe he just shows up and turns on his real

[00:38:19] litter energy and is just able to be like this was what I was doing I was it was a character blah blah blah whatever and maybe is somehow able to convince them like Q is such an enigma to me when it comes to his motivations and his behaviors like who knows I feel like everybody just hates Venus so unfortunately for her and then Liz big old

[00:38:37] Mark for me I mean Liz started out this hasn't been the narrative much lately but Liz started out saying that she didn't need the money that she was just doing this to like great strat by the way Liz really humdinger

[00:38:49] I it will be interesting to see if that continues to be a factor I also feel like it combines with her general at least in the context of survivor and these people's opinions, unlike ability.

[00:39:01] I feel like she rubs a lot of people the wrong way by well a lot of the third person stuff and a lot of her sort of big personality I feel like might be a tough vote.

[00:39:13] But yeah, nobody likes Venus either.

[00:39:16] I don't know it's weird.

[00:39:19] Charlie I think is in a good.

[00:39:22] If Charlie can keep I feel like he's in a really good position as long as everyone else doesn't realize sort of what a good position he's in, because I feel like he's one of the few people that hasn't really pissed anybody off that bad.

[00:39:36] He really has held his own in challenges.

[00:39:39] I think the biggest risk Charlie's running right now is being seen as like a new hunter who we all need to get out at the first opportunity because he's a you know he's secretly been Batman in the cave training on all these challenges.

[00:39:52] I mean, his challenge record after that like first doghouse challenge was second first first.

[00:39:59] You got ready you got rid of hunter but you should have been worried about the person behind him in the form of Charlie and that's the only reason to your point I could see him being targeted is if these people.

[00:40:10] Good Lord they love big game hunting, even if it ends up putting the target on their own back and if they're now looking to someone as Charlie is like, well listen, if the field's getting smaller I want to take out somebody that's like guaranteed to win a challenge over me.

[00:40:24] Let's take out Charlie now.

[00:40:26] Yeah, I think they're also seeing a lot of challenges these days that favor endurance over strength.

[00:40:34] Like a hunter for example like obviously a huge physical threat but I think that if you somebody who's really strong versus somebody that who can just endure like Charlie and the lower body weight like it would be a huge, you know a huge help for somebody who has has has tried to cultivate that.

[00:40:52] I think you could fare really well, provided that everybody else doesn't sort of band together to eliminate him but I feel like he's in a good good position.

[00:41:03] Well, you know most the time on survivor when you hear oh so and so dislikes this person that can be a death warrant but we're seeing here where Liz who absolutely hates to is still willing to keep him in the game and whether or not okay.

[00:41:18] I think that strategic decision is going to outweigh her hate for him or even Venus who got a lot of flak people ended up keeping her because well why would we get rid of her. So I'm curious to see, are those people ultimately going to get cut, or are we going to see them manage to get their way to the end is these

[00:41:34] new targets keep popping up Tiffany maybe Maria maybe Charlie. I don't know if they're going to get slotted into those next spots or if finally we have the time to take out the cues and the venus is at the world.

[00:41:44] Has it worked too well do you think I mean there was definitely in the new era. I think the biggest, the biggest mandate I think is remove the episodes where you absolutely know just run the numbers like who's going like for four or five

[00:42:03] episodes it's like okay I'll be this guy and then this guy and then I wonder if like the changes have gone so too far in that direction to where things are so hard to predict that it's almost doesn't be who you to try to have a coach

[00:42:18] strategy like it doesn't it doesn't make sense to try to build long term bonds or a long term anything because the there's so many sort of like my monkey wrench is thrown in that it like doesn't make sense.

[00:42:30] Yeah, or build a long term bond with someone when you and then send them to the jury because then you can say oh yeah we made this bond is that great please vote for me. I mean certainly I do think that this is something we see a lot in just in one of your

[00:42:41] favorite televised products big brother where the idea of expecting the unexpected and which is ironic given the fact that the new era now has this like very rigid structure of oh we're going to do earn the merge here and the rice negotiation here, but I do certainly see from people's

[00:42:55] perspectives. If you don't know from a production perspective what's coming your way, the best thing to do is then to just kind of like not play at all right to like right save the course because for all you know you can make this big plan and then it gets unraveled by

[00:43:10] something else and that's why I get a lot of kudos to this cast in that like do the fact that no idols have been played so far it kind of feels a little older middle school survivor in that way and that it is more relying on these like interpersonal dynamics and the numbers like I got so excited by this idea of a five to three vote because it felt like the first vote in a while in the post merge where we didn't like have a reliance on a shun the dark or just having a pile on vote on to somebody.

[00:43:40] Oh man I am done with shot the dark. I would love for them to eliminate shot the dark and only because I feel like it gets so much discussion amongst the players like we got to be careful they don't play their shot in the dark when like statistically, it's not going to work.

[00:43:58] You know it's worth once or twice. It's not going to work and it's such a like wet fart of a moment when Jeff holds up it's like not safe. It's like yeah I know it's a five year.

[00:44:09] Like, yeah I know.

[00:44:11] Like it's it's I and then people but people talk about it. So like it's a legitimate concern and it simply if you knew you had a five out of six chance of a plan working just do that plan don't that's really good odds for survivor like you should not think about a one out of six chance of something

[00:44:27] happening.

[00:44:28] And also when you have a group like that it's so easy to just throw a couple of votes on someone else right like it's very it's also very easy to get around so

[00:44:35] Trim away.

[00:44:36] Which is again why this these past couple of votes have been such an exception where I usually the plan is and we see that this even in like the big blind sides that have occurred post merge I'm thinking for instance of like

[00:44:48] High is blind side and survivor 42 certainly came out of nowhere from his perspective, but everyone was on board and they threw like a vote on to Romeo just in case high played his shot in the dark to Leon's point that is like the most cohesive

[00:45:01] Simplest strategy to pursue here when the numbers are feeling tiki tack and even Hunter last week had said that like the reason why he didn't play his shot in the dark is because he had this sort of assumption about a

[00:45:12] convoluted five for vote that was happening and he didn't want to throw his vote away and tie it up. I give you know a lot of a lot of kudos to these players for being able to come up with these ridiculous scenarios where yeah it can be a one vote difference and so as a result they're

[00:45:28] poo pooing the shot in the dark like they do all these race negotiations as well.

[00:45:32] Yeah.

[00:45:36] Yeah, it also I wonder seeing how how many of these tribals have come down to the actual tribal.

[00:45:44] It makes me wonder if some of the complaints that we've that that we've been sort of talking about are that the game is moving so fast that you just don't have the material to edit a storyline together like it's a to make it

[00:45:59] really compelling because it's shifting that fast which like judging by the fact that a lot of it seems to be happening, you know, out there in the restaurant but rather than back in the kitchen.

[00:46:10] It makes me wonder if that's the case where it's just like shifting so fast that it's hard to edit a story around it.

[00:46:17] That's interesting. Yeah, it is sort of like if another survivor season is like hell's kitchen where like all the drama occurs in the kitchen in the tribal council.

[00:46:27] This season is like, I don't know top chef restaurant wars were like oh no there's an issue in the front of house the waiters aren't being trained.

[00:46:34] This person got their wrong order or their friends pulled where there's so much happening out front when that's usually not the case.

[00:46:40] Yeah.

[00:46:42] What do you all do you have.

[00:46:45] Have you predicted who do you still have front runners people who you think I think I've sort of planted my flag with Charlie Charlie's in the best position.

[00:46:55] What do you think Leona.

[00:46:57] For me it's Kenzie, but I think that part of that is also based on just her story continuously getting a lot of stories especially in some areas where she could have easily been edited out of the story.

[00:47:09] That was something like Michelle Fitzgerald's when also stood out to me for those reasons where Kenzie yes is very fun but you also have so many other dynamic personalities that it would be, you know you

[00:47:19] potentially swap out some of those confessionals.

[00:47:22] So for me I think it's Kenzie.

[00:47:24] I think it's getting a bit of a hero hero edit featured featured in the a lot of feature.

[00:47:30] Yeah, exactly a lot of featuring and a lot of hearing her when maybe she's not necessarily the one driving boats.

[00:47:36] And it's tough because then you're also wondering how much is the tail wagging the dog and it's like well it's because her tribe went to tribal council like three out of four times or basically four out of five times in the pre-merge so we're

[00:47:46] not from her. I do think that Maria is probably who I would go with.

[00:47:52] I do think that Kenzie and Charlie are probably my top two but I'll be a bit contrarian and just throw one in for the hell of it because I do think that is Maria under edited AF.

[00:48:03] Yes, but I do think there are bits and pieces there there's even stuff like you mentioned Leona about kind of like needless moments in retrospect remember that one time that she like biffs the reward challenge for her tribe and like had this

[00:48:13] whole segment about how she's been seeking validation and her family you know immigrating from Lebanon to America and how she wants to do this on behalf of all those people.

[00:48:23] And then on top of this, I do feel like this could be sort of like a a soaring to stardom that Maria needs especially because if Q is going to take the credit for it.

[00:48:34] Fantastic all on you dude build even more smoke onto yourself while Maria can sit back and then go to final travel council and be like, yeah, I was the one that actually put the votes together there so I could see a path for her would it be a little underwhelming to

[00:48:49] Justin's point considering how we really haven't seen a lot of her yes but I do think, despite this cast being so wackadoo I do think it is one of the more normal cast members in a Charlie, a Kenzie or Maria that will probably take it all in the end just because

[00:49:04] Again, the other options just seem so unattainable. Yeah, it doesn't seem like I wouldn't think Ben will be able to float much longer without really doing anything I mean like without being very active.

[00:49:19] It's weird that he has taken on like, he almost has taken on sort of a master splinter role, you know to me where it's like, he's there. And he's like, hmm, that's interesting. Let's talk about that.

[00:49:29] It's like, nobody's gonna vote for this guy. I know he's gonna get this guy off the show. I thought for sure when Maria had that scene I thought for sure that was her obit scene. You know anytime you see the family photos pop up.

[00:49:42] My alarm bells go off I tell Sydney like, if I'm on survivor and I started talking about my family history I stop I'm not no no no no no I know I know what you all will do if I start giving you a compelling story. Absolutely no no way, especially when it's

[00:49:57] something you haven't heard from that all of a sudden it's like, when I grew up in Alabama it's like bye. You're done. You're done. It's the last minute trying to get me to care about you for your acts.

[00:50:09] I like that it's just the best way to play is to not play at all like I'm not even going to give you the ingredients because I can't make a satisfying episode of me getting voted out if I don't go to

[00:50:18] Conventionals ever.

[00:50:21] They're refused to go on walks yeah. No I look I think I think Charlie would be my second choice because it's for similar reasons that he's gotten a consistent coherent narrative throughout the season and I think between him and Maria, at least, especially early, the editors would default to Charlie's

[00:50:37] opinion between the two of them. And so that makes me feel like okay there's some investment that we need to know about Charlie like why do we need to know about Charlie's thoughts, and I think that that's because he could also be a winner contender he would be my second choice after

[00:50:51] Kenzie and I would put him above Maria for those reasons but they do seem to be pretty much in lockstep throughout the whole thing, which makes me wonder if you know we talk about this talk about turning on your allies like it will one of them turn on one another at maybe the appropriate

[00:51:06] time and then that gives you know Charlie let's say the win in the end.

[00:51:09] Yeah, I mean if we talk about the doomsday scenario of Q Venus Liz final three I think the exact opposite is a Kenzie Charlie Maria final three where similarly that can be as up in the air if not more but I think it's a bit oppositional from like a perception

[00:51:25] perspective now granted maybe you know those three would earn a lot of iron from the jury at the end but definitely I think it still would be a case where I'm not sure who gets votes there who gets credit.

[00:51:36] I feel I think you'd be hard pressed to see I would be hard pressed to see all three of those just because they would be the most satisfying to have there I think and I think I think it's unlikely that everyone else does not realize that about at least one of them, if not to that

[00:51:55] like that any one of those three beats any of the remaining ones and when you've got five people remaining or for now I guess at the nest vote. It'd be interesting to see if those four like hey, we're all the B team.

[00:52:10] We should.

[00:52:11] I'm realizing now we should work together to get out the jocks.

[00:52:16] Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong.

[00:52:18] Well, speaking of jocks. Let's talk about Tiffany here. I mean Tiffany was very good in these challenges and she nearly won were not for Charlie's ape like grip strength apparently.

[00:52:30] Yeah, let's see Leona how good of a grip you and I had up Tiffany of course in the preseason you and I wrote up how we thought that she would do Tiffany a big character in my interview with her how did you think Tiff was going to play out.

[00:52:44] Yes, so you may remember I was very, very, very, very high on Tiffany and that is reflected in my prediction. I had predicted her to be the winner of the season.

[00:52:55] She was my preseason winner pick it was between her and Kenzie ultimately went with Tiffany here. So I said that Tiffany along with Jess and Kenzie create the palm fron hat gang PSH gang what up.

[00:53:12] And they ride their success all the way to the final five.

[00:53:16] While Tiffany is devastated to lose her two closest allies back to back Jess at Final Five and Kenzie and fire making it turns out to be a blessing because they both advocate for her in the jury.

[00:53:28] Tiffany sweeps the jury votes getting seven of the possible eight several several yeah sorry several.

[00:53:36] Because of her charm and sparkling personality I also said that Tiffany would win three individual immunity challenges and give us several new reaction gifts at tribal council because I believe she said she was very expressive.

[00:53:50] Her allies were of course Kenzie and Jess and her enemy was Tevin and if you remember this Tevin did a casting of beauty in the beast.

[00:53:59] Oh yeah.

[00:54:00] Beauty in the beast. So part of the reason why the enemy was because he casted her as Gaston and she was not happy about it.

[00:54:06] All right.

[00:54:07] And we did we say that Q was also unhappy that he was not cast as Gaston.

[00:54:11] It was Charlie who is upset about being cast as I think he was I think maybe chip.

[00:54:21] He's either he has a chip.

[00:54:23] Yeah, yeah.

[00:54:24] So but he was upset at Tevin that's why he didn't vote for Tevin Maria and Charlie are kind of giving me Mrs. Pots and chip.

[00:54:28] Right.

[00:54:29] They are.

[00:54:30] All right.

[00:54:31] Well maybe we need to do this exercise for the end of the season.

[00:54:33] Tiffany did have one more great reaction though her face when she told Liz that she didn't eat the burger was really good.

[00:54:42] It was really good that we shared that around in our slack.

[00:54:45] It's just a classic classic reaction.

[00:54:47] She is super good and I talked about the reactions as well because yeah, I believe she told me out there that she can't control her face.

[00:54:55] And that showed as well.

[00:54:57] I think she was a fantastic go to person for reactions amongst all the wackiness around her and that included on her face as well.

[00:55:04] I love to see her back.

[00:55:06] She's one I'd love to get back.

[00:55:07] I think she's a really strong player who made a really bad mistake, but I'm really strong player who should get another bite at the apple.

[00:55:15] I think I completely agree.

[00:55:16] I love Tiffany so much.

[00:55:18] She's a great character again a bit underrated I think compared to all the wacky dudes around her.

[00:55:22] I think she had a harder time with the wacky dude.

[00:55:24] I feel like I feel like if Tiffany had been in a game where people were playing a little bit more with their heads, I think she actually would have fared better.

[00:55:33] I just don't think she adapted to how I think she wanted more control than this season is willing to offer anybody.

[00:55:41] And I think that that is maybe what ended up doing here and in addition to obviously going over the night.

[00:55:50] Well my prediction was not as lofty as Leanna.

[00:55:53] I did not have her facing the jury, but I didn't have her making the jury.

[00:55:57] I also said true to her telling me she can't control her facial expressions.

[00:56:01] She'll be the reaction queen of the season.

[00:56:03] But while she can't control her face, she can control everything else.

[00:56:07] She remains in a rock solid trio with Q&K through the pre-merge cemented by the fact that she finds the first idol in the game.

[00:56:14] She'll eagerly sign up to go on a journey where her risk taking life credo has her losing her vote.

[00:56:20] As the merge hits, she'll be seen as a chief target.

[00:56:24] The others clock her as a power player with sweet talking skills and physical strength to boot.

[00:56:29] After turning on Q in the split tribal council, it becomes a battle of Yanu versus Siga with Nami in the middle.

[00:56:37] Though Tiffany and Kenzie think they have Nami votes to get rid of Maria to the point where Tiff doesn't play her idol.

[00:56:43] It proves to be a massive error.

[00:56:45] Tiffany gets blindsided with her idol in her pocket.

[00:56:48] The fan base then talked about if Tiffany is a name cursed to be the first juror on Survivor.

[00:56:53] Oh yeah, because we had Tiffany from Survivor 41 I think also be the first juror.

[00:56:58] And her closest ally was Kenzie and her enemy was Maria.

[00:57:02] Okay, well that was weirdly accurate.

[00:57:06] First Idol? Didn't play Idol?

[00:57:08] To be fair, I was out there and did see her reading the Beware Advantage when I visited her camp.

[00:57:15] So it was a little bit of a finger on the scale.

[00:57:17] I kind of assumed that she had found the Idol.

[00:57:19] Yeah.

[00:57:20] But Justin, we're going to put the ball in your court.

[00:57:23] You're the Q.

[00:57:24] You're the judge during executioner with a Q.

[00:57:27] Who do you think had the more odds on prediction preseason about how Tiffany would ultimately do?

[00:57:32] Unfortunately, Mike.

[00:57:34] Mike, as much as I prefer Liana, I am in this case going to have to give it to you.

[00:57:38] I do think that you were a little more on point.

[00:57:42] Yeah, not wrong.

[00:57:44] Okay.

[00:57:45] Well, Mike may have won the prediction, but can he win the game that we're going to play today to close things out here for the BNB?

[00:57:53] So we obviously inspired by Applebee's very crucial to this episode.

[00:57:58] We asked our listeners to write in and compare survivor players from this season to casual dining restaurants.

[00:58:06] So I will give an example of how this game is going to work.

[00:58:10] It is up to the two of you to try to predict what the audience said based on your answer, you accumulate a certain number of points,

[00:58:16] essentially just based on the percentage.

[00:58:18] And we'll tally everything up at the end to see who has their finger on the pulse.

[00:58:23] Okay.

[00:58:24] See, here's the thing.

[00:58:26] I did suggest this game.

[00:58:27] I feel like I'm walking into, I'm a gladiator going up against the lion right now.

[00:58:33] I choose the bear because listen for those that don't know on Justin, one of Justin's podcast, my brother, my brother and me.

[00:58:39] He does Munch Squad, which is a segment that talks about all the latest and greatest news from fast casual dining.

[00:58:45] I mean, I'm going up against the bed who I think has out of anyone in this country his best finger on the pulse as to what these restaurants are.

[00:58:52] I also think I'm going to get way too in my head about all the potential ramifications for saying anyone is a restaurant.

[00:58:58] But I, uh, yeah, I'm ready to give it a shot.

[00:59:02] Look, there's no criteria.

[00:59:04] No right, no wrong answer.

[00:59:06] So there's a right and wrong, you know, we all can agree.

[00:59:12] Well, let's see if you agree.

[00:59:15] Well, I'll give an example.

[00:59:17] So I did ask the question which survivor 46 player is most like Applebee's as you can imagine Liz was the overwhelming answer.

[00:59:25] She received 61.6% only 61 and then it was pretty much split throughout.

[00:59:33] So okay, so let's say for example, you were answering so you'll both get an opportunity to answer for both questions for like for all the questions.

[00:59:40] So for example, let's say Mike says Liz for Applebee's he would get 61 points because she got 61% of the vote.

[00:59:48] Okay.

[00:59:49] Justin, let's say you say David Jolinsky who is the second place finisher he got.

[00:59:54] Yeah, I look he got 7% of the vote.

[00:59:57] So you would get seven.

[00:59:58] He got several percent of the votes.

[01:00:00] Several percent of the.

[01:00:01] I guess you would be like, I don't know the target demo because Applebee's does feel like that place you go to after a theater show like still kind of caked with makeup.

[01:00:11] Yeah, 100% it has huge like everybody singing songs from the show energy.

[01:00:16] And I mean, Kevin is more so the theater person.

[01:00:18] Mojolinsky is the youngest he's 21 he has done shows before so it does feel like it kind of has his energy.

[01:00:23] Yeah.

[01:00:25] Also just a general statement.

[01:00:27] Look, we couldn't include every restaurant.

[01:00:29] Okay.

[01:00:30] So there's no Chili's is no TGI Fridays, but maybe next year if CBS ever decides to partner with a different restaurant.

[01:00:37] Did you all see Chili's trying to slide into Liz's mentions being like, hey, you're not sweet sweet Applebee's how about how about you know and get with the hero.

[01:00:47] That's intense.

[01:00:49] If I can find this while we talk.

[01:00:51] Wild.

[01:00:52] Okay.

[01:00:53] I did not expect that.

[01:00:55] I don't think she would switch brand loyalty though, right?

[01:00:58] I feel like she's really into the Applebee's did slide in and was like no, no, no, no, but please we're not losing one of our few loyal customers to this.

[01:01:08] Okay.

[01:01:09] Well, while Mike is following that train of thought let's start with our first question. Justin, I'll give you the opportunity to answer first.

[01:01:16] Okay.

[01:01:17] This first one is which survivor 46 player is most like Olive Garden?

[01:01:22] Most like Olive Garden.

[01:01:25] Yes.

[01:01:27] Um, you know, I'm going to say Ben because when you're there your family, you know, Ben seems to have a real open heart for everybody.

[01:01:36] And I feel like a lot of generosity there to sort of stand in for the breadsticks.

[01:01:42] Um, I think it would probably be my, you know, the only other one I would say, ooh, I can't change. You know what?

[01:01:50] I'm going to say.

[01:01:51] Sure.

[01:01:52] You want, you know, I'm going to stick with Ben.

[01:01:54] All right.

[01:01:56] Mike, what about you?

[01:01:58] Ben is a good one. I would say like, okay, who's the most Italian, but let's be honest, Olive Garden is not Italian food.

[01:02:05] That's the other thing that was tripping up is I don't know anybody's ethnicity and I don't want to step on anyone's on anyone's toes by saying they seem a lot like the Olive Garden.

[01:02:15] So I do feel, I am. Yeah, I do feel like I'm going with Justin's attitude here of like when you're here, your family, I think I'm going to go with Tim because I think Tim was trying to pump this whole like seagull cohesion thing.

[01:02:28] He is a dad and was probably the most disease and that was talking about his family.

[01:02:34] I also feel like I'm switching.

[01:02:37] I'm switching.

[01:02:38] Okay.

[01:02:39] I'm switching.

[01:02:40] I'm switching to Maria.

[01:02:41] She's the scenes of most motherly.

[01:02:43] I'm going to, and she's a parenting coach.

[01:02:45] So family is right there in it.

[01:02:47] It's got to be Maria.

[01:02:48] I'm switching.

[01:02:49] All right.

[01:02:50] Okay.

[01:02:51] So we have Mike, Ben, Justin, Maria, Justin, you named two of the top three.

[01:02:56] Ben was the third place finisher.

[01:02:58] Maria, the number one place finisher with auto point 6% of the vote.

[01:03:04] Mike, unfortunately for you, Tim only got 3.5%.

[01:03:09] I don't know.

[01:03:10] I unfortunately don't know how many people who filled out the survey remember Tim.

[01:03:15] So yeah, a bit of a shot in the dark there.

[01:03:18] Yeah.

[01:03:19] Yeah.

[01:03:20] Well, no, the shot in the dark, at least have a one in six chance again.

[01:03:22] Yeah.

[01:03:23] Better than this.

[01:03:24] You only got 3.5%.

[01:03:27] Charlie was the other person in the top three.

[01:03:30] I think that Charlie Maria connection somehow.

[01:03:33] If Charlie greeted you and helped you to your table at all of garden,

[01:03:38] you'd be like, Oh yeah, a hundred percent.

[01:03:40] That's a hundred percent has entered.

[01:03:42] Yeah.

[01:03:43] I did find something.

[01:03:46] Okay.

[01:03:47] This was in response to Liz's tweet.

[01:03:50] So Liz had, you know,

[01:03:51] she made a picture of herself.

[01:03:52] You already should have known I love burgers with a freaking passion as she had

[01:03:55] a burger headband on her Redmond photo.

[01:03:57] Chili's grill and bar replies.

[01:03:59] Liz, we have a mushroom Swiss burger too.

[01:04:01] And TBH it's better.

[01:04:03] We'd love to send you a gift from us so you and your daughter can start

[01:04:06] a new tradition.

[01:04:07] Wink face.

[01:04:08] Whoa.

[01:04:10] That is that's a lot.

[01:04:12] And then honestly, this is iconic.

[01:04:15] Chili's please DM us so we can make this happen.

[01:04:18] Liz.

[01:04:19] Oh,

[01:04:20] they took time out of they took time out of Star Wars day to nag Liz.

[01:04:27] Still waiting.

[01:04:29] Not the follow up.

[01:04:31] Oh my God.

[01:04:32] Desperate on main your chili's.

[01:04:35] Hey, Liz, just circling back.

[01:04:37] Your chili's do something else.

[01:04:40] Oh my God.

[01:04:43] I didn't wait.

[01:04:45] Let's just queue Chili's.

[01:04:47] I'm not gonna let that happen.

[01:04:49] I'm so sorry.

[01:04:50] I'm left on red.

[01:04:52] Oh, that's so funny.

[01:04:54] Not being desperate.

[01:04:55] Okay.

[01:04:56] Well, maybe it's a good thing we didn't do Chili's.

[01:04:58] All right.

[01:04:59] Let's go to our next question.

[01:05:01] So Mike, you're going to kick things off.

[01:05:03] You get the answer first.

[01:05:04] Red lobster is your restaurant.

[01:05:07] Ooh.

[01:05:08] Okay.

[01:05:09] So I'm thinking primarily about someone that brought in.

[01:05:13] Seafood here.

[01:05:16] Because obviously that's the focus of red lobster besides those

[01:05:19] delicious cheddar bay biscuits,

[01:05:21] but chair bay biscuits also reminds me of like something Southern

[01:05:24] too.

[01:05:25] So I'm just my,

[01:05:26] my gut is saying Hunter.

[01:05:28] I'm going to go with Hunter here for red lobster.

[01:05:31] All right.

[01:05:32] I really can pick.

[01:05:34] Said Hunter Justin.

[01:05:36] How are you feeling?

[01:05:37] Red lobster.

[01:05:39] Red lobster.

[01:05:41] What does the general reaction when people say,

[01:05:48] Oh, do you want to go to red lobster tonight?

[01:05:50] Red lobster.

[01:05:52] You know, I,

[01:05:53] I can't even justify this one,

[01:05:55] but I'm going to say Charlie.

[01:05:57] I don't know why there's just something about.

[01:05:59] I can just picture him and all anywhere in the Darden family

[01:06:05] of products.

[01:06:06] I can see Charlie slotting in.

[01:06:08] Maybe we can get him to upper management.

[01:06:10] I can see Charlie slotting in.

[01:06:12] I can see Charlie slotting in.

[01:06:14] Maybe we can get him to upper management in a few years,

[01:06:17] but right now he's happy where he's at.

[01:06:19] Honestly,

[01:06:21] I can't even hate the strategy because he was fourth overall

[01:06:24] with 8.7% of the vote.

[01:06:26] And he also beat Hunter.

[01:06:28] So more people just agree with your general vibe than Hunter.

[01:06:31] Now Hunter was right below him.

[01:06:33] So Charlie got 8% at Charlie with seven.

[01:06:36] So they were all sort of right there.

[01:06:38] The top number one vote getter was Tevin.

[01:06:41] And I think because of the,

[01:06:42] when he did the first vote,

[01:06:43] he was a third overall.

[01:06:44] So I think it was Tevin.

[01:06:46] And I think because of the,

[01:06:47] when he did the fish thing with his.

[01:06:49] Oh yeah.

[01:06:50] Okay.

[01:06:52] But that was a surprise to me until I was like, oh yeah, yeah,

[01:06:54] yeah, I remembered that.

[01:06:55] Kenzie and Q were the top three.

[01:06:58] Because of red hair.

[01:06:59] Maybe it could have been red hair.

[01:07:01] Sunburn.

[01:07:02] I think.

[01:07:03] With when,

[01:07:04] where can see these as like tattoos?

[01:07:06] I don't necessarily think of that.

[01:07:08] Like I don't think edge when I think red lobster,

[01:07:11] but I think it's like, yeah, yeah.

[01:07:14] Yeah.

[01:07:15] Yeah.

[01:07:16] Okay.

[01:07:17] I guess tattoos aren't edgy anymore.

[01:07:19] I don't know.

[01:07:20] I have two.

[01:07:21] I'm freezing.

[01:07:22] No, they're not.

[01:07:23] Well,

[01:07:24] because the survivor one.

[01:07:25] So they're definitely not edgy.

[01:07:27] I officially killed any coolness associated with tattoos.

[01:07:30] Okay. Justin,

[01:07:31] we're going to go back to you for the first answer for

[01:07:34] outback steakhouse.

[01:07:36] That's a hundred percent hunter.

[01:07:39] Hunter is a hugely outback.

[01:07:42] He is outback coded.

[01:07:43] It's hunter with a bullet.

[01:07:45] It's got to be.

[01:07:46] Okay, Mike, what about you?

[01:07:48] See, I'm going to disagree.

[01:07:49] Outback steakhouse.

[01:07:50] It's this is the rare advantage I have as someone who worked

[01:07:53] in Outback steakhouse.

[01:07:54] No rules.

[01:07:55] No rules.

[01:07:56] Just right.

[01:07:57] No rules.

[01:07:58] I'm thinking about that.

[01:07:59] It's a man that's rewriting the book of survivors.

[01:08:01] Justin is saying.

[01:08:02] Of course it's cute.

[01:08:04] He deserves it.

[01:08:05] He deserves it.

[01:08:06] And he should keep it and he should have it and I'm not.

[01:08:09] And he deserves it.

[01:08:10] Well, I'll tell you,

[01:08:12] you had the number one and number two answers.

[01:08:14] Thank God.

[01:08:15] Justin, this may come as a surprise to you,

[01:08:17] but you got 31.7% of the vote.

[01:08:20] Whereas Mike only got 11.8.

[01:08:22] Wow.

[01:08:23] So three times the number of people agreed with your logic

[01:08:26] of hunter over that.

[01:08:28] So we're going to go back to the first question.

[01:08:30] It seems like that person would want to be listened.

[01:08:32] If you would not be thrown as apg a bad word,

[01:08:34] with a bad word,

[01:08:35] if you would not agree with them,

[01:08:37] and if you everwhen were against the perforation.

[01:08:40] I said this,

[01:08:41] you had to agree with your logic of hunter over.

[01:08:44] That does,

[01:08:45] that makes me feel a little bit. Yeah.

[01:08:48] I'll never I mean, just feel he feels like the Outback.

[01:08:51] If he came at you with the, an Aussie accident,

[01:08:53] you would not be thrown. Like it seems like his energy.

[01:08:56] You believe it.

[01:08:57] I'm so in the hole right now. I kind of got to make this this Hail Mary right now

[01:09:05] Listen the survivor fan base. I love you dearly

[01:09:09] We are all we all have a little troll inside of us and I can't help but give I hop

[01:09:16] To the person who for some God forsaken reason

[01:09:21] Does not know how to jump and say Mariah

[01:09:28] All right, Mike locking in Mariah Justin. What do you want to go with?

[01:09:35] This is tough

[01:09:42] I'm thinking of like the energy of a I hop, you know, I'm gonna go with soda

[01:09:46] Hmm. I think soda it's just like a little bit more upbeat a little bit like it's not too

[01:09:52] Stressful. I don't know. I like soda for for I hop

[01:09:56] Mm-hmm again the number one and two answers off the board, but this time it's flipped Mike

[01:10:01] You did have the number one answer 13% of people went with the joke of I hop

[01:10:06] But 10%

[01:10:08] soda also coming in in the second place position the the other people were Charlie and

[01:10:15] Julie actually that had

[01:10:18] Top three and four that one makes less sense to me. I'm not gonna lie with Jolinsky

[01:10:23] Charlie obviously server at I hop we all know but Jillins

[01:10:27] Yeah, just get has like the body that resembles a stack of pancakes

[01:10:33] I

[01:10:36] Think I had my doubts about this game when you all first told me

[01:10:40] It's very strange

[01:10:42] That we as a people are able to look at a human being and a fast casual restaurant be like, oh you you're a chilies

[01:10:50] I know your type you're a chilies person

[01:10:54] It's very oh that guy total Panera and like at least 20% of the people in the room are like, yep

[01:11:00] Yep, yeah around to five people and at least one of them would say we're on the same page right? Yeah

[01:11:05] A hundred percent. They're a total Panera. Oh Hunter. Yeah third of us agree. He's just like the restaurant

[01:11:13] What what is that should that be on Tinder like what cat fast-catch a restaurant?

[01:11:19] Are you the new bear question? Yeah, this should be like what what fast casual restaurant are you?

[01:11:27] But it works it works so you can't do it for yourself

[01:11:31] I think because like you can't be that self deprecating. It has to be somebody else like reading you

[01:11:37] Terrigan down to brass tacks. Well, I think is also then people would just go with Occam's razor

[01:11:41] Which is like well, are you a lot of Sonic? So I guess I'm right exactly other people

[01:11:46] Exactly, you know no one has this level of insight

[01:11:51] Let's let's stay in the breakfast arena, but move on to a different restaurant. That's right. It's waffle house

[01:11:59] Who is the most like?

[01:12:01] House Justin will go to you first for your answer

[01:12:05] the most

[01:12:07] like

[01:12:08] waffle house

[01:12:09] Yeah, is

[01:12:13] Man, I'm gonna say

[01:12:17] You know what for this one is Kinsey I'll give him interesting. Yeah

[01:12:23] So since Justin gave his answer all it all be cards up here. I'm between two

[01:12:26] I'm between Q and Liz Liz. I think has sort of like that that like

[01:12:33] Overwhelmed waffle house at 3 a.m. Attitude with the way she's a good call. Yeah, for sure

[01:12:39] I've had it with you right now. What y'all do it? Stay off the tables

[01:12:43] You can hear is the like I told you to drag it through the garden now get again double time, but

[01:12:49] Q

[01:12:50] Does waffle and also has the energy of said aforementioned waffle house at 3 a.m

[01:12:57] So I'm gonna get bit by this again, and I'll keep going with Q

[01:13:01] This time it served you well

[01:13:05] Waffle house is pretty dead on

[01:13:08] 25% of the respondents of the survey said Q

[01:13:12] Unfortunately Justin

[01:13:15] It was a bit of a drop to get to Kenzie only 3.2% of people said Kenzie

[01:13:22] Jolinsky actually was the second answer again

[01:13:25] I think that that duo of the two of them just very chaotic

[01:13:30] I guess giving waffle house energy

[01:13:33] I mean Jolinsky is still I think

[01:13:36] Living up to what I declared a couple weeks ago that he may be the most iconic first boot of all time considering that

[01:13:41] He has been what the runner-up in quite a few of these restaurant comparisons. They're gonna have to have him back

[01:13:47] He has to come back

[01:13:49] If someone can make that level of impact if one episode I I mean to the extent where like this one human being

[01:13:57] One episode survivor made it so that several weeks later my wife, and I still say it's several o'clock

[01:14:02] We gotta

[01:14:05] I

[01:14:08] All right, well let's move on to Buffalo Wild Wings Mike

[01:14:13] Who do you want to answer? Oh?

[01:14:16] For B dubs, okay

[01:14:18] So like this is one of those like we were talking about where you self-assigned the restaurant where it's more so from Justin's perspective

[01:14:24] With like Hunter and outback of who do you most see?

[01:14:28] there

[01:14:31] Kind of feel like Ben I just feel like Ben has that thing of like we're gonna go back

[01:14:36] We're gonna crush a few dozen wings dry rub no sauce

[01:14:40] We're gonna rock it bro, and so I just feel like Ben has that B dubs motto to him

[01:14:48] What do you think Justin I am really torn here because like Ben definitely has B dubs energy I

[01:14:57] Feel like Jalinsky is at VW threes right now as we're recording

[01:15:04] So I'm gonna go with Jalinsky

[01:15:08] Okay, Jalinsky was the better answer 10 percent compared to 6% the top two vote getters though were Q

[01:15:15] I think the wild part probably had to play a role with that as well as Tim

[01:15:20] I was surprised to see Tim get votes here, but then I remembered how wild his strategy was of just being like

[01:15:26] Yeah, I'm in the six, but we have to vote out someone from the sex. Yeah

[01:15:35] Yeah, which is again the fact that the six alliances what down to two people right I

[01:15:40] Mean we have Charlie

[01:15:43] No, it ever an alliance to begin with

[01:15:46] One must ask because I'm pretty sure they only voted against each other since the alliance has been founded

[01:15:53] That is correct. Okay

[01:15:56] Your we've got four questions left. It is actually very close a story update

[01:16:02] Yes, it's 80 points to Justin and 67 to Mike which is still in for this game within

[01:16:10] shot

[01:16:11] Let's go with cheesecake factory Justin

[01:16:15] Who would you say for the cheesecake factory?

[01:16:19] Cheesecake factory is I'm spiraling a little bit at this point. Um, you know what?

[01:16:30] Cheesecake factory is kind of everything. You know what? I

[01:16:37] Might actually say that this one is closer to Kinsey because I feel like a cheesecake factory kind of needs to be like

[01:16:43] Everything to everyone. It's got such a gigantic menu

[01:16:47] Everybody can eat there and I feel like Kinsey was spent a lot of time trying to stay on everybody's good side for so long

[01:16:52] I would say Kinsey. All right and Mike

[01:16:56] For some reason I'm getting

[01:16:59] Tough for me to get a vibe on cheesecake factory just cuz to Justin's point by definition

[01:17:03] Yeah, it's a gem paralysis where there's too many options. Mm-hmm

[01:17:06] So to that point I will go with Liz even though she probably can't eat at least 85% of what's on that menu

[01:17:12] Okay, let me find Liz

[01:17:17] Indication for you. Yeah to 2.3% of the vote whereas the top vote getter was Kenzie

[01:17:24] So congratulations Justin that gives you the points there. Let's go to cracker barrel

[01:17:31] Oh, I

[01:17:34] Take the ball that has Hunter's beautiful bearded face on it. I run it to the hoop

[01:17:39] I don't get in voraciously tongue sticking out

[01:17:43] All right, we got Hunter for Mike Justin. Who do you want to go with? Hunter is a really good pick

[01:17:51] Man just to try to have something different. I gotta think of something different. Uh, you know what?

[01:17:59] Man no, no

[01:18:02] No, no, I'm scrolling through. No

[01:18:05] No, wipe right

[01:18:08] None of these people are cracker barrel. You know, I'm gonna go with

[01:18:12] I'm gonna go with Bono because it's just sad

[01:18:18] It's sad to be a cracker barrel, it's sad to be Bono

[01:18:21] I think there is both kind of sad he had a sad sad season bum me out bum everybody out huge bum or cracker barrel

[01:18:29] The peg game you're like God, why did you do this?

[01:18:33] Why did you bring these small milk grits?

[01:18:36] Oh

[01:18:37] Yeah, unfortunately Justin you're in a bad position because Hunter got 38% of the boat and it was just sort of randomly

[01:18:44] spread questionable

[01:18:47] Five percent for Bonnie there so that but that was that's it. That's a tough one

[01:18:52] Justin we're gonna go back to you Margaritaville

[01:18:55] You pick the

[01:18:58] restaurant for this guy. Oh, I mean

[01:19:03] This one this one this has been is this has got to be been

[01:19:08] This has got to be been music for me been music the easy-going like I feel like it's it's it's been

[01:19:17] Yeah, Mike. So who is the second?

[01:19:22] It's got I got a thing about like who has that sort of like

[01:19:26] Islandy vibes and I mean Tevin was always wearing those Hawaiian shirts and having that good time

[01:19:31] So even though he's a bit more vibrant than maybe the the you know attitude that mr. Buffett usually gives out with his music

[01:19:37] I guess I'll go Tevin here

[01:19:39] Tevin was the fourth place

[01:19:41] Finisher here Ben obviously number one thirty percent of the vote then actually Kenzie with 15 and Venus with seven point seven

[01:19:49] Percent of the boat several points several please several points several sources. All right last question

[01:19:55] Chuck E cheese

[01:19:56] Mike who is most like Chuck E cheese? Oh

[01:20:00] Man Chuck E cheese is I think because there's an apostrophe. Yes Chuck E cheese who most represents

[01:20:07] The wildness of Charles entertainment cheese

[01:20:10] Mm-hmm. I think it's got to be the guy who is not only the youngest

[01:20:15] But also brought so many shenanigans out and whose game was the quality of

[01:20:20] The baked over several times pizza that is made at that particular facility

[01:20:26] I gotta loop back to the man that's been a part of this all and go with Jolinsky. Wow, okay, I

[01:20:33] Feel like Charlie

[01:20:35] Would have the most fun at Chuck E cheese. He kind of yeah, I mean

[01:20:41] God no it's Bono. No wait not bono. No, sorry Charlie Charlie Charlie Charlie. Yeah, I'm gonna stick with Charlie

[01:20:50] All right, so

[01:20:52] Mike with

[01:20:55] 21.7% of the boat Jolinsky

[01:20:59] Was 13% of the boat bono was actually the number one answer

[01:21:08] Percent of the boat it's so dead on I should trust my gut

[01:21:12] But you know what it actually didn't matter you would have won either way you finish with it was a close game

[01:21:17] 140 points to Mike's a hundred and thirty seven

[01:21:21] By three points

[01:21:23] Yasha play that ever season honestly

[01:21:26] Yeah, we do it. We do it. We've done it with like marble characters in the past

[01:21:29] We did it with peanuts characters, but I think this was the perfect amalgamation of vectors. It's great

[01:21:36] My god well Justin you served us up a delight of a podcast last thing we do with each and every podcast here on the

[01:21:43] Bnb is throw it to our guests to plug a charity or cause that is important to them

[01:21:47] I like to plug the Heinz and children's museum. It's here in my home city of Huntington, West Virginia

[01:21:54] We've been trying to get it off the ground for several years now. We finally have a location and

[01:22:01] Repairs are happening at the building and hoping to get it open this summer actually that's HCM kids org

[01:22:08] If you want to throw a few bucks or just check it out go for it. All right sounds awesome

[01:22:14] Amazing time welcoming you back. I was so excited when you treat asking to come on

[01:22:19] I mean absolutely a bigger treat than a full don't make me ask next time, please it's humiliating

[01:22:25] No, I was waiting

[01:22:27] I didn't know if you cuz you are obviously a very busy manager

[01:22:30] So what you didn't want me on before now Mike and I had to beg you to come back on

[01:22:34] The case

[01:22:39] Podcasts a good old-fashioned character assassination

[01:22:41] Oh, I was out. I think it's very fitting in the season that all collapses here in the final

[01:22:47] Minutes, they all think it's the pot. It wouldn't be a survivor 46 podcast that that wasn't the case

[01:22:52] You are your menu is full

[01:22:54] I think with all the podcasts that you get to do each and every week anything in particular

[01:22:58] You want to plug for the listeners out there? We are going to be on the road

[01:23:03] What what day will this go live today actually Monday today Monday, so we're gonna be May of

[01:23:10] 15th

[01:23:11] We're gonna be in Tacoma, Washington with my brother my brother me and May 16th to come a Washington with the adventure zone

[01:23:18] Those are two of my podcasts

[01:23:19] So if you can get out to those shows bit. Oh I ford slash McElroy MCEL ROI tours is where you can get tickets

[01:23:27] Leona what would you like to plug?

[01:23:29] Well, you follow me on Twitter at Leona RHA P mass singer is also just a disaster

[01:23:34] So if you want to hear Pooja and I talk about sort of the mass singer you can listen to that podcast as well

[01:23:39] You can follow me at a Mike bloom type as mentioned before

[01:23:42] I got to talk with Tiffany I found out a bunch of great behind-the-scenes stuff including her

[01:23:46] Her thinking as to why she didn't play her idol her reaction to the reward picks and much more

[01:23:52] Also spoke with the team that was eliminated from the amazing race

[01:23:54] Which if you follow the amazing race also had quite a controversial finish

[01:23:58] So you certainly want to find out everything of that happened there the circle finishes this week

[01:24:03] I'm covering that as well with Teran and Pooja and lastly

[01:24:07] I know that neither Leona or I will be in Chicago for the live event this week

[01:24:11] But I hope everyone who does has a great time bring some of that B&B chaotic energy

[01:24:16] You have a plethora of restaurants to eat out at in which case you can

[01:24:20] Invite with the contestants that they're most comfortable to I guess you could feel Tim in that Buffalo Wild Wings as an example

[01:24:27] But next week Leona and I will be back talking about the next episode of Survivor 46

[01:24:32] Whatever it has to offer and we'll actually be having another new era alumni on Jamie Lynn the Ruiz from

[01:24:38] Survivor 44 will be coming on she had brain is a fake idol

[01:24:42] but it will be a real podcast as we'll break down the anti-penultimate episode of Survivor 46 and see

[01:24:48] Whatever the hell happens next with this cast so Justin this was such a delight

[01:24:53] Thank you so much Leona great work as per usual especially with the game special

[01:24:58] Thanks to the entire team behind the scenes at RJP for putting this podcast together and for Welcome America for his fantastic theme song

[01:25:04] Leona and I will be back next week with Jamie Lynn Ruiz to break down episode 11 of Survivor 46 until then

[01:25:10] We'll check you out at your next day

[01:25:17] To play and this that all sounds cool. I can tell you the name is the RH

[01:25:25] AP Bambi

[01:25:27] Mike and Leona gotta play in some games

[01:25:30] And I pray to your mama that they're not to play and this that all sounds cool

[01:25:36] I can tell you the name is the RH

[01:25:41] Hey, you can say for free