Summer of Survivor | Casting Survivor: Battle of the Eras

[00:00:08] Hey everybody, what's going on? Rob Cesternino back to talk with you about Survivor Battle of the Eras a fictitious season based off of the upcoming Challenge season 40 which is a dropping soon

[00:00:23] And we've got a jam-packed show for you here as the summer of survivor rolls on first. Let's bring in the Survivor panel duo, of course the man who's been taking you through all the survivor seasons day by day. Give it up for Mike

[00:00:41] Yes, I've been doing my own daily challenges and they're in the form of the survivor 50 wish list so I my body is ready Okay. All right, and of course back with us our chief international survivor correspondent Shannon Gus. How are you? I'm great. I am

[00:00:57] I'm already crying of laughter. It could not be more summer of survivor coded to have as a Chaotic start but we are here we are live. They would not keep us from our chat

[00:01:07] Not keep us from this live date big brother wants to go earlier. We'll still be at a time big brother That my prayers were answered as a big brother moves from making big moves And moving from 9 p.m. Eastern to 8 p.m. Eastern

[00:01:26] Used to that Wednesday at 8 slot for when survivor occupies it in less than two months really meant the world to me I felt like I won the lotto earlier this week So happy to hear that but that's not what we are here to talk about tonight the challenge

[00:01:41] Which we've seen a few survivor players play on the challenge USA and the challenge proper, but the challenge has a big Anniversary season of their own to commemorate season number 40. It's not winners at war

[00:01:53] It's battle of the eras and of course to talk about it here with us the co-hosts of the now decade old Challenge wrap up. It's Brian Cohen and Ali Lasher. Welcome to the summer of survivor Here we are excited yes, okay

[00:02:16] Big night talking about survivor talking about the challenge here together and Ali We are very excited to cast the fictitious battle of the eras survivor cast Well, I don't know how any of you can be trusted to do that when you have deeply miscast me on this podcast

[00:02:36] I couldn't have more anxiety about this solely because You know the challenge listeners are experiencing this in the previews Brian knows this you guys probably know this I get so much anxiety

[00:02:50] Before I do something like this that I have to do a ton of research because it's not in my bones like it is your guys's and Do you know what exposure therapy it is to give me an assignment? That's like we may talk about up to 700 people

[00:03:07] We've done that a lot this summer Oh, I've got materials, but I am scared to be here and we almost had to do this without the chat We were having problems getting our live stream started, but we are back here. And of course the chat is the unofficial

[00:03:23] You know I'll say sixth co-host Tonight look how excited the chat is This is what the summer is actually for says Nolan Lucas's This is such a fun concept love the challenge and survivor so much and Melissa is excited. OMG Brian I

[00:03:44] Can say whatever I want it's all blame it on Scali Brian Cohen playing the deep fake HOH advantage where he gets to take Brian Yeah, one day one of you is getting cancelled for what the other set says and then the curb

[00:04:01] And it'll be decades of a culmination in that What I don't like about that is I look bad either way so I'm tied to both of them against my will I think it's because your alley Brian alley people here Brian Scali

[00:04:22] Well, you need to find another alley to bring into the RHAP network So then you can become synonymous with them and then you shunt the blame off onto that alley Yeah, and then you'll be like alternate universe

[00:04:32] Duos and then you could have some sort of fight to the death to see who would be the supreme duo Okay, I like our chances. I like our chances alley. Well, all right now. Well, we've got a lot to do here tonight and

[00:04:45] We are up against a big brother is having gonna have a big episode here tonight And so we are looking forward to that. So we have a couple of things that we need to do one

[00:04:56] Let's just establish what Brian and Ali are up to to commemorate the challenge season 40 battle of the arrows and You two have some preview coverage that you're doing with a member of the panel

[00:05:12] Yes, so we are doing more preview coverage than we've ever had before not to the level that Mike Bloom usually does for other seasons But we are discussing each era first era and the second era both out already third and fourth are coming next week and then

[00:05:26] The challenge is something very fun They do like an episode zero preview special and we will have the great Mike bloom on to Discuss all that and get even more I

[00:05:38] Love the challenge. Yeah, and I'm very excited because I've only recently like become a member of the challenge media as well I started doing exit press for USA and for all-stars for and I'm I mean

[00:05:48] It's due in part due to the great work that Brian and Ali are doing. I'm freaking stoked on the challenge 40 It is an audacious concept It is a 40 person cast And I love dividing it through the eras as well because there's just been I mean

[00:06:02] There's debate in every reality TV fandom. It's like what are the eras? What era is the best and I love this idea of commemorating the history of a show by bringing people from basically every season on it Yeah, Ali

[00:06:13] Can you explain a little bit more about what the challenge is do for the uninitiated for season 40 the Battle of the Eras? I can't because I know very little about this besides what Mike bloom has written in his article in terms of like the

[00:06:29] Formatting. Well what I do know from what we're talking about in our preview coverage is we have been introduced to four squads of ten people from seasons one through ten era one seasons 11 through 2021 through the 30 and 31 to present which is 39 and

[00:06:52] You know, there's gonna be twists. There might be some Try out kind of situation to really make your era squad, but we're gonna find out I think in episode zero. Yeah, there's apparently a like an initial combine

[00:07:07] I think of like you got to make the team in the first place because I mean they're bringing on 40 people 40 to Seasons. Yeah this is the joke idea that I feel like so many people have had for survivor of just like bring like a hundred people to

[00:07:22] The beach and then squid game it down to 20 Well, hopefully no one will die But yeah, I mean what is the challenge if not the joke version of survivor? I'm excited. I hope maybe it inspires some other shows. Maybe it'll inspire 50 of them

[00:07:38] I'm sure that's well in the works You know that I was on a reality thief and that did that right like that joke idea that I actually experienced that Hundred people and two days later 80 were cut in three days Wow

[00:07:52] But that's but isn't that more like the audition phase right like I think I think it's a good point Or like American Idol would do that right where you'd see like the audition phases. Yeah, that was like ridiculous What's gonna be hard?

[00:08:05] I think and maybe would be hard for survivor is like and we talked about this in our most recent preview, but Are they really gonna cut half of each era? Episode 1 episode 2 like we want to see these people We're getting excited about the 40 people

[00:08:21] We know and want to see and if we get one episode with all 40 and we go to 20 I will be complaining on Mike that is just spoiler alert for our what did I do? Okay. Well, let me just ask a question Okay

[00:08:33] So from what I understand with the challenge battle the errors because there are these four Squads and and they are divided into these into these four teams now do the actual eras of the challenge

[00:08:47] Line up with the every ten seasons like does it actually make sense to call it eras or? Are they just like okay. This is the arbitrary cutoff of after season 10 Actually, if you did the history of the challenge eras, it would be cut differently. I

[00:09:08] Mean it's obviously a little arbitrary It wouldn't be so perfect that like immediately starting with season 11 There'd be a shift in the game But as we've kind of gone through the cast each of them do kind of represent their own era in a good way

[00:09:20] I mean, I think you can maybe Divide up the numbers in like a different way like one three and then like nine through like 22 or something like that but in terms of the grouping of people there does seem to be like a

[00:09:30] Seamless shift of like what they kind of represent the type of people were that were cast for the show what they kind of do on the show, so yeah, the numbers may be a little like Fugazi, but the people themselves kind of do represent the eras Okay

[00:09:43] So do we need to and I know in like our slack we were talking a little bit about what the names of the eras? Were Mike do you feel like it is important that we name the eras?

[00:09:57] I think we do it as Brian and Ali have been doing as we go along But I think if we do a seasons 1 through 10 tribe then we can talk about what the name is I think if we get bogged down right here at the starting gate of

[00:10:11] Eras, we are nothing would be more summer of survivor than to get bogged down at the starting gate Shannon are you okay with that? If the errors are unnamed? Well, it's not just about naming the ears. We also have to think about

[00:10:28] Defining the ears because are we just doing 110 110 because I already have objections 110 110. Yeah Yeah, yeah, what would be what's your objection to that? Like I already think like you would cap the old school the school year or whatever we're gonna name that at all stars

[00:10:48] That's the end of that era. Okay, but then when you do 9 through 20 I think so, but everything would be different. Well, look could we hear your pitch? So so you want to have a little bogged down? That's I think we can

[00:11:07] You know what let's get bogged down let's create some merch that says summer of survivor and then The caption let's get bogged because I think that was a good much Like I need to go to Urban Dictionary to make sure that isn't

[00:11:23] That's better, okay getting bogged is close to getting pegs You know, they tried to make it so we weren't live and they were saving us from ourselves Okay, and yet here we are Shannon give us the pitch for five. It's five tribes

[00:11:40] I think we should do five five. Give us the pitch for five tribes. That is a sliced differently So off the top of my head, I think you'd go one to all stars. Okay

[00:11:51] Then I think you would do nine through twenty. That's a big era. Okay a competitive era. The issue is Then I think you do like 21 to 26 of the Dark Ages, but can we have that can that be like a reduced team?

[00:12:07] Then you just eliminate them at the combine Okay, give me give me then what's team for Well, I have six teams but it's This is like we can't like I what I think Shannon what you are coming up with I think is actually a different

[00:12:27] Interesting conversation. I think we should put that on the wheel of ideas of These the what do we call the ideas here? Okay, I too many podcasts, but we should like define what what the eras of survivor are Are

[00:12:43] This is like casting of tribe of 1 to 10 to 11 to 20 Melissa in the chat who by the way a while ago did confirm she was joking about the Brian Scali thing justice for Melissa I got it

[00:12:57] Okay, she was good some people anyway one two eight nine to twenty then she says 21 to 32 I had separated those eras But if you want to do and then why chicken you said but 33 to 14 40 plus

[00:13:09] I think that's why we can we can put the die. I just say do 21 to 30 Because a second chance is 31 and that feels like a little bit of a refresh and then you go in from co-wrong through 40 Yeah but

[00:13:23] 33 was the start of like a lot of modernism the big moves era and all you ended at 31 because I do kind of Like ending at all star seasons every time I hear what you're saying and for Brian and Ali

[00:13:35] No doubt the actual eras if you as challenge historians If you were going to define the errors of the challenge, you would not classify them and make the cutoffs at 1 to 10 11 to 20 21 to 30 and 31 to 40, correct

[00:13:51] So let let the challenge be a lesson to us here instruct us here in that you might not be Perfect as Brian was saying in terms of where the cutoffs would actually be but when we make the tribe

[00:14:03] We might will probably get the right vibe whether it's cutting off at 30 or cutting off at 32 It might inform how we actually cast the era if somebody really would fit more in another era

[00:14:15] Maybe they're not making the tribe here because the numbers maybe they played more than once are we open to? Casting was done by the season you debuted. Okay, it's not if like oh

[00:14:29] You know Kelly Wentworth is gonna be a consideration for 29 not for 31. It's not by your most popular season It's the one that you first appear. Okay, so I cannot punt David right? Yeah, I'm learning here like I did

[00:14:40] So I feel you didn't want you play with fire one slasher Yeah, we compromise and we end the ears at 8 20 31 and 40 It's so clean though. The one accepts the one thing I might push back on I know ending on heroes villains makes sense but I feel like

[00:14:57] 19 should almost be in like it should be like ending at 18 and then starting with Samoa should be like the next I was Saying that there should be an era called the Russell era, which is like 19 to No, no

[00:15:12] I feel like if we're again and that's why I think this is an interesting discussion for a different podcast I think that there is an era of Survivor where they fell in love with Russell hands and it was a hi-hi and then

[00:15:22] They were sort of like stuck with Russell and Russell's relatives for a while and they were in the Russell hangover era I think that is I think from like 29 or from sorry from 19 to through 24 I think that that is sort of like the Russell chasing Russell era but

[00:15:42] I think well It's gonna take us an hour to define the eras and Ali and Brian are here tonight And so I think that we should do is work on filling in The tribes in groups of ten and I think that we can have another conversation

[00:15:58] Down the road about what are the errors of Survivor? May I also may I also add that some of us are rigid and saw the graphic and thought it'd be one to ten and in our prep and That's that's

[00:16:13] The graphic was because we couldn't decide it in slack and said we'll do it on the podcast So we can't have that that's becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy I was not looped into that chat though. I wouldn't have checked it because I don't know how to use them. Okay

[00:16:26] At least you were prepping for like casting for a Survivor season I stress the last two weeks asking Ali are we casting for a Survivor season or are we casting for a season of The Challenge? Which Survivor players so at least the least some people knew what the

[00:16:38] Mike can you Lend your opinion to all this. I Am fine like honestly what Shannon is proposing is not terribly different like it does are we gonna pull people? Like anyone that all started it doesn't matter like if whether we end at 30 or 31

[00:16:55] Let me let me hear your pitch one more time. I think it's got to be five teams I think it's it's one through eight nine through twenty. Yeah, twenty one through thirty one 32 through 40 new era Well Should be in this in that next era because I just

[00:17:16] We're not ending around numbers anyway, I just don't think Robert Robert I'm Bryce now Does it does it move the needle back to just the clean one through ten if your chances?

[00:17:34] Quadruple of having to be cast if we cut two more seasons out of your quadrant, that's true You're going to either way What are we what are we quibbling over that the first era ends at at is basically seasons

[00:17:50] Why it's not even eight because as you when you play in your first season, it's one through seven I mean literally the only differences are like the first three the one and three are like slightly different Yes

[00:18:06] Because I would almost like break it up by like the style of the gameplay and I feel like nine ten eleven all kind of Still fit there. So maybe era one should end even later than okay. Let's let's vote. Let's vote. Okay, it's time to vote

[00:18:17] Okay, majority majority rules here. Okay, the options are Decades or Bespoke tier. Okay I'm reminding us the big brother is at nine. We know we got it. We got we got it. Okay All right, Ali. What's your vote? I'm voting for for one to ten

[00:18:38] 11 to 25 vibes we will cast the tribes with the right. Bye. Okay, Brian. I Like the chaos of like I wrote like 1 to 11 12 to All right, he likes customs, okay Shannon I want the decades Mike. You're the tie-breaking vote

[00:19:04] Well, I guilting is the best way to get to my heart I'm gonna go with Shannon's pick here Well, okay should have just known that I'm gonna talk shit behind your back now Then quickly I need to know what the five groupings are

[00:19:19] So one through eight and Mike Michael does Mike is he Solomon here he has heard all of the things Okay, but a lot of babies one through eight is the first one. It's real and it's really one through seven. Okay

[00:19:33] Yeah, I love that. We only lost the only one because Brian threw away his work Reality vote. Okay, go next is gonna be nine through twenty nine through twenty I don't like I don't like these ranges. These ranges are not great It is a difference of two seasons

[00:19:55] If twice nobody is coming from 20 because it's when you played in your first season so then it's gonna be 21 through 30. Okay, then 31 through 40 and then Sorry, it's 21 through 31 32 karong is technically season 31 and then And again, you can't pick anybody from 31 because it's all returning players

[00:20:21] Why can't we just say Rob has a podcast not to moax have a podcast exercise your authority. Oh, it's always been Personally Shannon speaking up Sir Shannon last thing on this. Okay, we're trying through the summer survivor to solve

[00:20:46] Survivor discourse so that once the summer is done. We can say what was the defining words of the season? What are the ears of? Shannon you're happy if it's called 32 to 40

[00:20:58] Even though nobody from 31 can qualify for this list because it's only when you played in your first season Yes, okay, it's 32 to 40 now Okay. Yeah. All right one two eight nine to twenty twenty one two thirty one 32 to 40 41 to 50. Okay. All right

[00:21:21] We have to decide on these teams. I also think that There should be one person that is the ultimate Final say for each of the decades. I think that we should be each be a captain one of the decades Alright well, okay Allie

[00:21:42] I'm gonna give you the first pick of Which of the decades or which of the the five eras that we've come up with Do you want to be the captain? You are the ultimate if there's any sort of a tie you Have the final call. I

[00:21:57] Honestly think I care the least The first time in my life But I will pick I honestly I'm still trying to figure out Where we landed on these I'll pick the first I'll pick the first one. Okay, you know

[00:22:14] Okay, Allie has the final say on the OG's Brian I'll take the second era cuz that's my favorite. Okay. Oh, yeah, Shannon of the remaining three 21 to 31 32 to 40 and 41 50 I'll take the third Okay, Mike

[00:22:33] You know what give me the new era I feel like I should I should get the new era here It's the only one I haven't talked about. Okay. Okay, and I will have the 32 to 40 era. Okay. All right So should we name them? No

[00:22:47] We don't have that kind of time. All right That could be at the end when we see who's on the tribe Okay, so how are we going to do this start we're gonna start with the old era, right? Mm-hmm Okay

[00:22:59] So are we just throwing names out there and then making cuts I think I think we could definitely throw some names out there that We're like I imagine especially with the old era

[00:23:08] I think they're gonna be names that we're gonna be in agreement with and there could be ones that we could argue with How many people do we want on the team is the question six ten eight ten. We want to go full 50

[00:23:17] I think so. It's five fifty four fifty right? I did unless let's do ten Then I think it's imperative we get up the list of all survivor players Essential Wikipedia list Not to get About who is a survivor player that we need like an official list No

[00:23:33] Just because sometimes you forget and then the Wikipedia list reminds you but just the checking with the chat Chappelle is here or at least was here being a menace giving his opinions that I disagree with and also Me is not being a menace. That's just agreeing with me

[00:23:47] He knows what's gonna get me and it was and then Kieran in the chat whose anniversary was last week He's the person I I picked to come on So here and get in touch with if we have if we have time if we have time we will okay

[00:23:58] Kieran's gonna come on. Oh, yeah I would like to put out a first suggestion and here's the thing is that Brian now I can speak to this further like especially with this cast

[00:24:07] There are very few misses in Battle of the Eras and that comes with also bringing on Pretty historical figures. It's a no-brainer. You bring Richard Hatch on. Okay. I go on here All right, and this is like a are I guess are the people in

[00:24:22] Because in the challenge exercise you need people that are actually like not totally Aged out of the thing and I know this is 100% fantastical. Okay, this is like some sort of simulation that we're like So we're seeing these people like in their prime as they were

[00:24:38] No, we're seeing them the age they are but we're just okay with it. Okay, which is Okay, even if they did Follow up to the dead thing. Yeah, like is this is it like, you know, the ballot?

[00:24:52] It's not Ghost Island play for like someone like Rudy obviously like Right I don't even know what MTV means So probably he would not like it But let me just ask so did the challenge like were there people that like if you were going to be making this

[00:25:13] Fictitious list that they would have been on the list but for one reason or another They were declined to be asked Yes, very much. So usually well either you have the kind of be ass or I guess they could have said no

[00:25:27] But there's there's some uh, let's say more problematic people from the challenge not unlike survivor That would be banned from returning that if you were doing a all if every single person was you know a

[00:25:41] Lovely human they would have been on but since they are not they are not okay I mean listen if we're going for realism, I might retract my Richard nomination then no, I think that let's look

[00:25:51] Let's for the purposes of history. Okay, I think we rich if we ultimately cut Richard That's fine. But Richard should be on the list Yeah, I mean, I think that the oldest era is going to be interesting because there are so many defining players

[00:26:07] Obviously by very definition so there's a few names like you have to have like I Mean definitely Richard hat you'd have like Colby Jerry Rupert, I mean, here's the question. Did we just look at a cast of survivor all-stars?

[00:26:22] Well eliminate eight people but is this even beyond like fiction where can we get Colleen? Oh That's a good point, I think Colleen could be really interesting I think Colleen would be a great like wild card to show up. But then who's the woman?

[00:26:38] From from the list that you're gonna eliminate them, right? Cuz I made a rough list of like 10 and I think it's probably on the margins. Okay. All right similar But like so are you cutting? So, who are you cutting for? The hits no, no, I reserve my list

[00:26:56] but I'm just saying like if you're adding a wild card, which I love and I don't think in fairness the challenge like Did enough of of like really digging from people like they are playing the hits which is great

[00:27:07] Like Mike said, there are no misses, but if we're bringing Colleen I Think we're cutting somebody potentially that yeah is like a shoe in so who's the person we're subbing out for her I guess I don't think we should big woman

[00:27:21] Well, I guess we need like who are the ten shoe ins that are as the five women shoe ins? Yeah, give us the list down. I'm happy to go with the hits. I think that's the point of this, right?

[00:27:29] Like yeah, I mean we all might disagree right but I think Sandra is is one of the hits Must have is in the conversation. I am very is in the conversation. Yeah, I think the sepia is in the conversation Oh interesting. Um, oh

[00:27:47] You know what? There's room because this is a list from seasons 1 to 10 and instead One of my people so maybe the sepia isn't on the list for some people but That was my that was like where my head was out

[00:28:01] I think the sepia gets a lot of help from it being only now one through seven Mm-hmm. Yeah much like Rob's sister Nina will get No, Stephanie LaGrosa to worry about I feel like you would get like one of Tina or of a sepia

[00:28:20] Feel like those are the two I would between yeah see Tina didn't even make my short list only because We've seen a lot from Tina and not and not to say that she doesn't belong as like a standout in the era

[00:28:34] But if we're having Colby and Jerry and maybe it's a conversation that we're not having Colby and Jerry Do we also need Tina? Um, may I also add to the list of I think we're started with the women

[00:28:44] Just a couple other names that I think are notable to throw around here. I think Kathy Should be on our short list. Yeah, I think that The winner of survive the Amazon Jenna Maraska should be at least mentioned. Mm-hmm Yeah, I think you mentioned her. Mm-hmm

[00:29:08] You could also mention Kelly Wigglesworth, oh Yeah, I mean the first of either winner. Mm-hmm Yeah, though I would say maybe to Ali's point like if we're trying to

[00:29:19] make sort of the quick hits of the first seven seasons of survivor do like Richard and Sue kind of and Colleen like I think they override maybe the power that Kelly Wigglesworth had

[00:29:29] I mean, I agree with that but I actually am most persuaded by Rob throwing out Jenna because like What that was such a specific era. It's almost like if we threw out

[00:29:42] The other Jenna right like the pink bathing suit, you know, like it's about that but but you know the that was a huge era of like the the pathway from survivor to playboy right like the like hottie strategic woman on the show

[00:30:00] Like I think Jenna is like really a great example of this kind of early era like celeb reality kind of adjacent Mmm, that's interesting. Yeah that she sort of represents the pipeline to that type of world as a reality star Okay, so basically it's what it's Sandra Sue

[00:30:21] Gary Jerry looks like Colleen and basically a fifth spot between the three Colleen either I think Colleen at this point that meals more feels like a Like a niche pick up by people in this like deep dive world Oh, that'd be cool like Colleen

[00:30:37] But I think if you're like thinking like who who are the ten survivor players from this era? Like if you're doing family feud, I think Colleen's an immediate X. Oh, that's it. He's not making the big board Yes, family. That's what we should be doing

[00:30:48] I think that you should be thinking who would they who would a hundred people answer? That's a great name a player from the old era Yeah, I think Colleen might might Depends who you have a better chance of answering it that way

[00:31:02] It is tough and I think this is something that challenges you to write like if we were having this conversation and all-stars just aired Right Colleen is more top of mind and certainly for like the super fans who do this every single Wednesday in the offseason

[00:31:16] To discuss this certainly that hits but if we're standing at season 46 and we're looking backwards I think the challenge did a lot of people who?

[00:31:27] We've seen recently who have come back who have done all-stars who have done World Championships the people who have stayed kind of engaged and I think like if we were being more realistic like that would

[00:31:39] Change Colleen's odds of being on this cast, but we are freaks and we are doing this in the offseason So I'll endorse Mike if he feels strongly about it. Okay, it's Colleen not the Aviva this cast

[00:31:51] He would be so I feel like I'm saying no to Colleen and I think you could you have still winners and Yeah, I feel like even Kelly what I'd like to suggest is let's throw the male names out there

[00:32:04] And let's see if maybe that might be a little bit Instructed we just level set though who's even in the conversation because I'm kind of I think Sandra is the one Is the one person that we have locked? I think

[00:32:17] Sandra Sue Jerry and Jerry, I think that's our Stepia Jenna and Colleen and Tina and Tina For two spots. Yeah No, Kathy. I picked my veto for this. Let's put Kathy in there. Okay

[00:32:35] All right in the conversation and then the men are gonna be tough because it's so hard to narrow it down to five men Boston Rob this Rob Richard Hatch Rupert Rudy Call I think we're saying that Rudy I Don't think that we're putting any somebody in

[00:32:55] Mike do I pronounce this right post? Humously Richard Rupert Both Rob's you get to do this on Oz I have a really strong feeling about one of the people you're talking about if I may offer. Yes

[00:33:13] You know come at me I'm already dealing with the David Wright stands and I do believe he belongs. Anyway, whatever. I don't think Boston Rob fits this era Okay, I understand that he

[00:33:32] Appears in this era, right like I I know that he qualifies but I think much like the challenge folks Boston Rob like really has the benefit of the growth arc of having appeared more times than some people on the challenge which is made of repeat players and

[00:33:50] I just think he kind of becomes the lore of Boston Rob. I Understand all-stars obviously counts but just like if we're counting his like first season his originating season Am I putting Marquesas Boston Rob in this category?

[00:34:05] And I'm not and I know all four of you are going to it doesn't but it does include all-stars. Yeah That's not his original season all-stars. It really is thrown out. It's like what you guys are doing in the well

[00:34:18] Asked in terms of how they cast the challenge if somebody did not necessarily Become an icon their first time out but then grew into An icon the challenge is doing that but what I think is different here

[00:34:33] So yes, right like Cara some of the greatest people on the show Bananas went home like first his first season and now he's got seven rings

[00:34:42] But I just think it's that's the spirit of the challenge the challenge all of them have been on at least three times except for one

[00:34:48] Person that Mike mentioned and to me it's not the spirit of survivor in the same way in terms of what like suits the era I'm looking at people who change the game in their first season and I'm looking at one of them right now on the screen

[00:35:02] So that's my I know that he will be on and I fight it I don't think it doesn't make sense. But and when I was putting together my list That's that's how I felt. Yeah, I just a reminder to the listeners that

[00:35:17] Ali holds all the cards in the old era Can I just can I just say well, there's five of us so that's gonna be tough Well, we almost had one last time. We literally did it was a two to one. I don't know how I won

[00:35:30] I don't know how that was allowed. I um We did not get a majority. Um, so I Would kind of agree with you about putting Boston up in a later era if all stars wasn't in this era

[00:35:42] This is why they were returning seasons are important about where we put them. Also, it's defining so it's important If you're gonna family feud this Boston Robbins like the number one pick on the board who?

[00:35:52] You know one to eight I would I would also say that I do see your point about like well Boston Rob doesn't really come into his own until the season that he wins

[00:36:00] I mean, I would argue Boston Rob didn't really change his game between all-stars and Redemption Ireland I'm not celeb to say like oh He was a completely different person between his runner-up season and his winning season Can I say when I

[00:36:15] When I go back in like I'm recommending survivor to people a Lot of them used to watch survivor and they tapped out at a point and the way I usually like got that It's like oh, do you remember? Stephanie LaGrosa

[00:36:25] Do you remember Rupert like that's how they'd like these like iconic people that they attached to Boston Robbins Definitely one of those people for all-stars people can say all-stars is his biggest season bigger than Redemption Island probably and

[00:36:38] Probably bigger than Heroes vs. Villains where he was only in the pre-merge 100% I think my error in the era is I sort of like toss out the returning seasons and that's not fair

[00:36:49] Like it just it's just like I'm looking at the first season of their appearance, but totally valid Okay So my question is are we talking is the proposal that Rob should not go here?

[00:37:00] He should be in another season or we should not have Boston Rob on the list I'm here piping hot take because I On my list if we come away with this list of 50 And

[00:37:16] We come away with this list of 50 survivor players who should be on the Battle of the Eras and that list does not include One Boston Rob Mariano though the one point because I I disagree

[00:37:27] I still feel like we should put him on the the OG team to Ali's point I have a feeling we're gonna be a little thin on the men's side for era 3 So he might be able to take up a slot there

[00:37:36] Put put a note in the comments if you disagree with me, you know We would just need a very strong footnote debate This was determined based off each person's original seasons impact and nothing else beyond that because it's it's hard to justify it without yeah

[00:37:55] Put a footnote that said Ali Lasher had control of the first era Well, let's just come up with like who are the five people that we are talking about? So just like our that we have do we have these five slam dunks? Yeah, so Richard Rupert okay yourself

[00:38:16] Boston Rob or perhaps on the bubble and Colby Who do you have ahead of Rob so I have on my shortlist I've Ethan okay and I have Lex Over And I don't have Boston Wow take that I

[00:38:45] Would do fair and I have your play too and I love Ethan and I recently gave up everything for Ethan in another draft That we did but I think this five is pretty definitive. Are we missing anyone chat? I think yeah, Richard Rupert both Rob's and Colby

[00:39:00] That's that's family feud What's funny if you say with confidence, it doesn't matter that I exist it's pretty definitive and who cares what the city it says Myself out of the list even though Eating your ego come on. What do you think we're here for?

[00:39:23] It is interesting up with Rob Did not remove myself from the vote. I said that it was a no-win situation for me to be in the vote This is Rob addressing comments that were made on a podcast

[00:39:34] I just listen to the podcast and then yell at my TV or my phone If we were trying to group people it wasn't a weak sauce era That doesn't where they debut but almost like how they play what the era of gameplay would represent

[00:39:49] Like that would almost push like we're going back to like change the beers But that will I push other people to different errors? So it's like very he's got like be very clear like how we're like defining what the errors mean

[00:39:59] But I guess it's do we have to be a look? I've relished this fight, but obviously Boston Rob is gonna be on this like that was not But it was what we had fun. Okay, I think the Colby spot could be up for great

[00:40:15] Colby is yeah now was one of the most popular people from that era He was like the first example of the emblazoned hero in survivor history to the point of like him and Jerry are basically the mascots of heroes versus villains

[00:40:28] It's I I know again history looks back with the Superman in a fat suit Colby But if we're talking about what represents that era Colby's there Okay, so all right Do we have consensus around are the five men of this team?

[00:40:47] The one last thing I'll just say and and I didn't even I swear to God I get voted out again No, I Just I just do think like it is in the same way that I was arguing against Boston Rob and I think you know

[00:41:01] History has not been kind to Johnny Fairplay. I should say cut Johnny Fairplay has not been kind to anyone but like he he really does But like again if you're doing a family feud rules or who invented like being the the first

[00:41:14] Whatever. It is crazy that we're just kind of yada yada in him being on it maybe because he's not anyone's favorite, but I'm a giant family earlier this year. I feel like I'm like Faith in the five So I just

[00:41:33] Spot I already said I think it comes down to I guess Rupert or I Do wonder though? I give you a hundred grand like people on the street would like would fair play be said before you know the Rob over here

[00:41:50] Which hundred at a rap event no, no Street yeah, I mean there is a listen We're all for gender parity here. Mm-hmm. If we if we feel good about only four women We could put fair play in as a sixth person and then later

[00:42:09] Yeah, then later have more women in a different era to compensate. Yeah I don't know if we got to the point where we said we only feel good about four of the women

[00:42:24] No, and then we have a list of like five that we had to table I don't think we like Honestly, I get rid of Colby or Rupert before I would get rid of a woman I feel like it's so essential Like I feel like Rupert is

[00:42:43] Five minutes and I'll show you a picture of me beaming at 13 with a picture of Rupert in an airport in New York I love Rupert. I love Colby, but I just I just do now. I'm fighting for fair play

[00:42:57] So you you want fair play that as got as a guy number five over over his nemesis Rupert I would say Rupert or Colby because if we're casting a tribe, do we have all heroes? Right, do we have Rob C Rob M Colby and Rupert and

[00:43:14] Interest baby Rob Rob M infamously a villain alongside Rupert and Colby on that season And Rob C would probably be on the villain tribe of I'm talking about audience perception. Mm-hmm. Yeah, let's do play and then like

[00:43:35] Tina yeah, and then overcompensate with women in another era. Okay soon that Thompson the chat says that Like I really shouldn't be there, but you all just don't want to get fired

[00:43:55] She pal said don't waste the spot you should fight what Chappelle join the chat or get out That's the problem I like the idea of banking the women's spot for lives. I do think in like era 3 there might be like another woman Okay, that's not happening. That's insane

[00:44:10] No, not banking a woman's spot when we have nine women to choose from that like we're not banking a woman's spot Okay, just respect to the female survivor. So this is coming down to okay. We made Ali the captain here

[00:44:22] Okay, we're gonna need to make some hard decisions here Ali. Do you want to? lock the men or lock the women first Let's lock the men, okay. All right I'm gonna say the names you tell me lock or not Okay, Richard Lock. Okay, Boston Rob

[00:44:42] It wasn't a tie. It was overwhelming. So lock. Okay Colby On the bubble. Okay bubble for Colby Rupert on the bubble Rupert on the bubble Rob Okay Fire me lock him up lock him up. They say Okay

[00:45:05] All right, and fair play. I'm locking in fair play. So you All right, so that leaves then Four contenders potentially or really of Colby and Four contenders potentially or really of Colby or Rupert who's in who's out?

[00:45:30] You guys can decide that because honestly, it's like choosing between two of my aspirational sons or fathers Rupert in I put a Rupert in like I Colby was great such a seminal You know historical impact on the season Rupert is at his time the most popular

[00:45:46] Contestant survivor history to the point that they gave him a million dollars just for it. I will say I'm a survivor fan Travesty to not have Colby but not on the level of the travesty would be to not have Boston Rob

[00:45:57] I mean, I'm insane for saying that fair play belongs in this Place in in the history of the show for sure Because you'll understand it I will Look like I feel like that. I have a like a Grounded sense of like my part in

[00:46:30] All of this like I think that I had a nice run here and we had some good times But nobody named their baby Rob sister Nino like they did Childless women if I had a kid maybe we'd be having a different conversation Yeah

[00:46:52] It was a cat wasn't J's cat Rob has a podcat What's the chat saying does the chat think this fair play thing is shenanigans like what like Some people are saying drop hatch and you know what?

[00:47:07] I didn't want to come out twice, but hatch was also not on my definitive list. No, I think Brian Quiet, what do you think about all this? I think we have the five. I think I think we're good

[00:47:19] I think what's the five bird as the fifth it was Richard Rupert Rob Rob and fair play no Colby Okay. All right. So you're okay taking Colby spot. You can live with yourself The first time look I could give Colby my spot is what I said

[00:47:37] Yeah, okay, but we gotta move on we gotta move whether it's me whether it's Colby we got it We got to move on with with this Women here we said Okay Okay Famous last words. All right, so Moving and so we're moving on here to to Rob Rupert

[00:48:06] Okay There you go. Well, how is he not wearing tie-dye that feels like seeing your I caught him off guard This was not an appearance. I saw him in the airport. Yeah Okay We have Sandra

[00:48:20] We have Sandra we have Sue we have Jerry we need to add two more locks to the list of the women alley Where are you leaning? Okay And then we have the sepia from your original list

[00:48:40] The likes of Tina Cathy Kelly Wigglesworth and Colleen Haskell were all mentioned I'm agnostic. I don't know. I'm not a fan of the original list I'm not a fan of the original list. I'm not a fan of the original list

[00:48:52] I'm not a fan of the original list. I'm not a fan of the original list I'm agnostic. I Feel like where I would go. I know where I would go But I'll put Jenna through and let you guys pick the last one. Okay

[00:49:05] Alright, Lynn, let me let me then push for the sepia Here, that's what I was gonna push for it. So well, then that's my list three votes. Let's go Okay with all due respect to Kathy who I think is certainly worthy of a spot I

[00:49:22] Would say that you have sepia a winner She never gets to come back on any of these all-star seasons for the love of God if we're bringing back 50 people let the Sepia in yeah, imagine we left her off again

[00:49:35] Would not be the best look for this panel. Yeah, I would say Tina over Jenna Or we not into that I Went to Jenna over Tina, but I don't I can be talked out of either of them and here's into the challenge of younger hotter

[00:49:51] People have you met Brian? Of course. Yeah, don't go to him to pick Tina. Okay All right Jenna okay. I'll vote. I'll vote for Jenna Let her in come on, okay. Okay. All right, so we have we have locked the

[00:50:12] The first team there we go first try yes, okay Second tribe second era now again now we now we have a little now we have 12 seasons but there's

[00:50:27] Two people that I think would have been in era one that are an error to that. I think are taking up spots I think that's really the okay. All right nine through 120 Brian Cohen you are our leader. Do you have a short list?

[00:50:44] I got a few names that I feel like would be hard not to put on there Okay, so I think Stephanie for one would have to be on there. Yeah, I would think poverty for one Did you see the report earlier today that Sharon thought was reporting that

[00:51:02] Parvati is bringing her talents to Donde you know what that means Rob? No, I don't Who drafted poverty to play on a reality television show? Oh the next year. There's not the first confirmed points possibly Shannon is leading

[00:51:22] One two zero two zero two zero two zero. Yes. Oh the one point. Yeah, I thought to one point for me. Yes, but Probably a sign not going to be playing Australian survivor Mm-hmm. Okay, you boys. Yes time she can do both All right, it's a poverty

[00:51:42] so Stephanie poverty James James, okay Mike with the doubt no, I'm just thinking about again like yeah James No, I'm trying to think about the fact that like James and Amanda did play three times in this era JT Russell, oh Okay

[00:52:04] So I'll start with those five, all right, so those five okay. Well Mike Mike also throughout Amanda Amanda throw out freaking Suri fields. Yeah. Mm-hmm. What about coach? It's basically like combining my Cornelian heroes villains I'd feel like anyone not on those seasons

[00:52:23] I feel like it's gonna be very hard for them That's where we invented from in these first two seasons that we have actual returning Yes of like oh these people are the the ones that should get brought back has been said

[00:52:33] I think Tom so Tom and Stephanie were the two that I think would have been in the contention for era one and now We're in era two. Yeah, um, I mean you have the van a lot to people you Amy

[00:52:45] Did Brendan Donlan not sell everyone on Chris Daughtry or no? Just me I think the problem is is that there's so many people that came back From this era that it's gonna be tough to find like a spot for Chris Doherty, you know Gia would kill us Me

[00:53:04] Yeah, are we looking at all into like the makeup of the tribe of like, okay We just can't have like bring back like five like Macho like muscle guys. Like are we looking to have any sort of balance in these tribes?

[00:53:23] Yes, I mean I think Johnny and Johnny fair play That's the tough thing is like we have you know a season like Cook Islands Which has bred a good amount of legends and multiple-time returnees

[00:53:37] But to Rob's point what they take up about half of a tribe. Mm-hmm. I heard bread. I haven't eaten yet. Okay Also, did someone say Ozzie So I've got James JT Russell coach Tyson Tom Ozzie Earl Chris and penner

[00:53:57] Yeah, man. Jeez. Could we bump some of these men to the third era? Jeez a lot of a lot of names? Captain Brian Yeah, man was like so popular at the time I think you should be in the conversation

[00:54:11] But if I have a top five, I would say I think Russell James coach Tyson and Ozzie Okay Tyson's almost like the He's not really as much of from I'm But his impact was not this era

[00:54:33] so here's why I was prepared for that argument because I agree with you, but I also think Tyson on His first season being like the male bitch like the mean boy Is very iconic and game changer II and of that era

[00:54:51] So I do think in his first season he like even even alone lives up to this much less the rest of His journey and this and this would sort of be a case like the Boston Rob where it could be like well Tyson

[00:55:03] Really comes into his own on his third season, but this is the season he technically started on right? That's that I'm still I mean people that are in locks for me are definitely Russell and Ozzie I think those are two of the biggest names Like I think

[00:55:18] JT if there were enough spots could be a fun representation because this was an incredibly popular winner And then sort of again someone that has this fun return turning appeal of like you never know what's gonna happen when you bring him back, but I do feel like

[00:55:31] Coach, I think I would put in above him just because of the legacy provided as a survivor character And I think James is a lock to me. He's like the Rupert of this. I think you guys are being

[00:55:42] Just for the popularity of this era like if they did a million dollar vote after heroes villains I feel like he wins that the way Rupert Prize who's whose shoes are we standing in though again?

[00:55:52] It's like are we talking about Colleen in season eight shoes are we talking about in? 2024 looking at the totality of the franchise. I love James I don't have a picture of him with my grandma like I did Rupert, but buddy

[00:56:04] Did you say New Orleans which is where I don't know? But I but I think someone like a yow man in terms of the mix of popularity and just like longevity of that moment

[00:56:14] I'm more convinced there and I think you got Johnny Fairplay there. Will he slam his head into the boat again? Yeah, I think with James if we're looking at like what represents this era James played to and through a merge three times in five You know through 15 to 20

[00:56:34] Ian Amanda I think defines so much of that era and I do think it has staying power and I do think that it's what you would Remember if you were to say it like on a family feud perspective

[00:56:43] So I think James is like a character you go back to of like, oh, what do you remember about that? Also? Yeah, I feel strongly push for Shane powers also from the chat I'm sorry

[00:56:54] Like I know that people were begging for T bird for era one like this is this is not the wish list loves This is not we can't necessarily in these early eras especially push for like people that have only been on one

[00:57:05] I guess what's our ultimate route like who defined the era? Is that what we're like? We're coming down to a People may or may not enjoy Russell but in terms of somebody who defined an era like I feel like going back to my earlier conversation

[00:57:27] I think he's the one person the one singular player that I think defines a an actual era of the show Which is why I push so hard for Fair play for the same reason ready doesn't have to be your favorite

[00:57:41] But yeah, I think Russell's a lock look my five I think and I love penner That would be like my Shane pick for the people in the chat writing about Shane

[00:57:49] But my five and I know it's not gonna get through here would be Ozzie. Yeah, man, Russell Tyson and coach Ozzie Yeah, man. I'm sorry Russell Ozzie. Yeah, man

[00:58:00] Tyson I said coach. Okay, I have that but James instead of yeah, man, I think they sit in a similar It kind of sounds like that's what it's coming down to is like is it y'all man or is it J?

[00:58:10] Okay. All right. I would be James over. Yeah, man I'm James over. Yeah, man All right Got a shocking little amount of love though in this conversation Cuz he's on my list for one to ten cuz I prepared based on the graphic

[00:58:32] You had Tyson is one of those five I Would have Tom over Tyson and I could I give you talked in the young man over time I wouldn't have Tyson in my five. I Want to but it's not what we've said I want it

[00:58:46] We'll see how the third group goes But I want to I put yow in and shift Tyson to the next you can't shift to another scene. You cannot do that Okay. Well, that's noted the record shall so reflect Brian

[00:58:58] I'll go with you and giving up Tyson if we did it one through ten in the first one You could have put Tom as the fifth guy

[00:59:10] Anybody else buying that deal is anybody else flipping with me against Tyson and going with me in Brian with yow man over Tyson I'd rather have Tom Well, I've got two votes for yow man

[00:59:22] I'm just saying if there's a third here that wants to join us or if all three of you want to is it yow man versus James or yow man versus Tyson now, it's yeah. Yeah, man versus Tom versus Tyson. See I feel

[00:59:33] We have the locks are Russell right now like space of discussion Russell coach Ozzie as Locked Russell Russell James was in all four of you Ozzy and James are in and who's the fifth? I think if we can't move Tyson to another era

[00:59:52] I think we have no credibility if we walk away with this list of 50 people and Tyson's not on it. I agree All I was in on Tyson was always on my original list But I'm just saying that Brian said he'd flip Tyson for yow, man

[01:00:08] I said I would do that to you It sounds like it two nose and one silent person over there who wants to move a Tom So I don't think we're getting any bite

[01:00:17] I just feel if you were around the water cooler at your office tomorrow and people were talking about hey Did you hear that podcast where they made the list of the top?

[01:00:25] 50 survivors for a battle of the eras and you and and they left Tyson off like what a bunch of idiots But you let me say that they are. Did you hear they left yow man off like oh, okay. I guess it was okay

[01:00:39] At least they're talking about it. Yeah, if we just make the list that everybody expects we make nobody's talking about These Jamoaks making the same list. We already left Colby off. That's good

[01:00:52] They're meant to agree I'll remember I'll remind you of this it's two to one and Brian All right, well, all right We've said all we need to say Brian Cohen the five men in the second era are who? Russell coach Ozzie James now flip to Tyson. Never mind

[01:01:19] I'm kidding. I'm sorry. Go ahead. It's fine. It's why we could be Sorry, I couldn't resist just sitting on my little buoy for 12 hours. Yeah James Russell coach Tyson Mentions. Oh you'll yeah 100% it sucks that we couldn't include them all. Okay, but the women I think

[01:01:41] I have four locks and then I Don't know how if Parvati staff Sari and Amanda are yeah, that's okay. Who is our fifth? Woman of this. Oh, may I suggest sugar? cream Crystal Cox Courtney If I left and just left this photo would anyone oh

[01:02:12] Yes, Ally the about Fairplay supporter Okay Courtney is a Courtney is a very Interesting suggestion. I remind you you have Vanna watt to at your disposal also We could we could have an Amy or an Eliza Mm-hmm, Eliza behind. Yes memes Danny Bo right?

[01:02:33] All right, then we have serious suggestions we have Sugar I'll keep something for sure sugar. We talked about the massive popularity of people like Rupert like sugar Was the character from Survivor Gabon? Mm-hmm

[01:02:50] Yeah, I'm the between a I'm between Amy and sugar right now. Oh not even personally Yeah I like Courtney, but it is interesting. I was just saying and man does rep it for China, I suppose Hmm, that would be a lot and James is on there, too

[01:03:06] Okay, who am I voting between what season does this go through Natalie white is also shambo Yeah Could be fun. Okay, I think around sugar right sugar all right You're locked Brian Okay, all right we are locked in

[01:03:30] Stephanie Parvati Amanda Sari and sugar are the five women of the nine through twenty era the next era was defined as 21 to 31 We didn't name the eras what that's gonna be for after the show old school and then

[01:03:49] Oh, you know I like this. Let's let's let's do what they've been doing for the big brother live feed updates I think people in the comments and the chat afterwards can name the eras themselves tune in to the preview of

[01:04:00] Episode 0 of the challenge with me Mike and Brian and we will reveal. Oh, okay. We go I love that go to Rob his website comes as challenge feed so you don't miss anything Okay, all right Shannon. This is your Everybody finally okay 21 to 31 all right

[01:04:19] About it, okay, do you have your potential Favorites coming in for the men or for the women just think of the top of my head Tony Okay What am I thinking men or women up with it really like Tyson should have?

[01:04:34] Probably melt them pretend like it's a survivor draft Yeah, okay Tony Jeremy locks and Cochran I think is it is a top Tony Jeremy Cochran, okay Yeah, I think I think Malcolm should be on there hundred percent

[01:04:53] Yes, that was my top four. So that's where I went instinctively see if the one the one with Tony Jeremy Cochran I'm not sure if I'm gonna be on there I'm not sure if I'm gonna be on there Instinctively

[01:05:08] Yes, a controversial choice, please yes, I'm just making sure I'm in the right No, I have to what seasons are up for this again one through 31 Okay, so it's Philip the conversation. Okay I Think there's a legitimate

[01:05:42] If PR was here, this is how he would play PR the 51st players Okay, are there any is there anybody that's Some notable other figures yes, Mike

[01:06:02] A great season for the men. That's what I'm saying in a great series. Oh, well, actually, I mean, here's the thing again Looking back retrospect Spencer Yeah Yeah But I feel like Cochran over Spencer and then you know, that's that's true as well That's that's true as well

[01:06:22] Hmm through my list of all survivor players. I mean, it's it's I've Slowly eliminating people who have won five immunity challenges. I'll throw my call away out there I don't know if he'll make it but yeah, but at one time appearance overall

[01:06:42] If there was a time to do it would be this era where I think we are good on yeah Tony Jeremy Cochran Malcolm Phil all these people played multiple times. That's true For me, I like Philip. Yeah, my my five would be Tony Jeremy Cochran Malcolm

[01:06:59] Spencer in that it like ends on second chance as he gets to the end top four twice in a couple of seasons That would be But as far as Spencer was I feel like he was always like overshadowed by bigger like he like Tony overshadowed him the Jeremy

[01:07:14] I feel like Philip was almost like this The co-star of like his seasons or Spencer just more like a I And I do think that Philip kind of does represent You know the the a lot of stuff from those first four seasons, right?

[01:07:29] Which is kind of like big outlandish moments negativity Maybe not the best strategy as well. And so he does kind of represent that group as to yeah And I feel like that we have Cochran we have Malcolm

[01:07:44] I feel like that Spencer fits somewhere in between them. I feel like the way we have the two like extremes of well The extremes of Spencer could go lots of different ways, but I just ain't Keith nail as well yeah, be like a

[01:08:02] Doff of the cap that Keith nail, but we didn't put Rudy through so Honorable mention for sure. Yeah Okay. All right. So right I think that maybe Shannon. What do you think? Well that you are that

[01:08:20] We can we can vote on it. It's the Boston Rob effect, you know, it's four people with why I did you know Yeah, I mean I guess Philip kind of represents the Dark Ages in a way that the others don't Cochran to a degree

[01:08:34] Mm-hmm. He just I think really Was like such a big part of like the two seasons that he played on that they brought him back immediately Mm-hmm if we family feud it right I think Phillips there over Spencer maybe not in this RH AP audience, but in the

[01:08:53] larger audience Mm-hmm. All right. Sounds like you guys are all into it. So that's the five And Phil just talked about on the show. I mean Talked about Spencer in his pregame. We want to play like Spencer Well, we did everything Banu said Fun jump

[01:09:12] Yeah, we're not the Banu yet that's when we get to his era in the 40s just wait until I cast ten bonnets Yeah, all right Shannon we need the women of the 21 through 31 era Yes, I think some locks Natalie Anderson. Okay

[01:09:33] The era I think really defines the big movie era And Kelly Wentworth Very much because those are the two seasons including by the way Check out Kelly Wentworth on this week's claim to fame recap with a Jenny autumn and I

[01:09:49] Tomorrow Thursday morning be on the lookout for that So those are some locks for me. Do you want to throw out some other? well Sophie Sophie Abby Maria Yeah, I think you could have a one of one of Abby or Cass

[01:10:04] I know that complement each other very well, but I don't know what the tribe would do with two of them on Wow Denise Denise back controversial opinion There's never a list related to survivor that I will not put Franny on. I know But oh

[01:10:24] Andrea is on my list. Andrea's like Andrea is a good one, too So are we saying Sierra's a lock for this list? Cuz I didn't think she yeah, I mean She's a lock for me

[01:10:34] Yeah, Sierra to Shannon's point like was somebody that had this major impact on blood versus water You know helps instigate the second ever rock draw in survivor history. She voted out her mom like again

[01:10:47] I think she's running people that we look back in hindsight being like remember when everyone was so high on Sierra But like she does represent that era. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well then this is gonna be a harder conversation I think then the men's side because I think That Sierra

[01:11:02] There we go, I love that can't spell it Sierra without era. Yeah. Okay, so we have about one spot open Is that all we have? I mean, I don't yes. Yeah Well, cuz so I didn't you know, obviously we don't have the exact same list

[01:11:15] I think Sierra is a lock for me and I think Kim also yeah has to be there but everybody else to me Like obviously again, I'd have my five but I think is more variable. Did everyone agree with?

[01:11:28] Who are the other ones Natalie Anderson see what was Sierra Easton Kelly Wentworth Were the four that we originally started with is what worth a lot. I think I think Wentworth is a lot I mean, should I I'll throw it's not but go ahead Ally

[01:11:44] I was gonna say I think here we have to kind of discuss like The quote-unquote archetypes or the mix of the tribe in terms of like a similar Archetype in like maybe a Wentworth a Kim Spradlin and Natalie

[01:11:57] I know it's not like a perfect one for one, but are we with Sierra Kim Wentworth and Natalie? Are we kind of like having a pretty specific? type of player versus like spanning the error or maybe this was just the

[01:12:09] Definitive kind of type of player and and I know there's differences in their games like and I know that but I Don't know that we have like an amazing mix, but I mean, I'll throw out another name. Yeah, Sarah Lucina I just feel like

[01:12:28] part of this decision for me is like if like and I and I've been gotten to be around a lot of these different players and see like the reaction that a

[01:12:38] Like a survivor fan has when they meet this person is almost like the biggest and I feel like that Wentworth Gets that pop like I think that you go to the right place people are crying when they meet Kelly Wentworth

[01:12:52] I'm not coming out against Kelly Wentworth. She's on my list, too But like are we I'm just looking at if we're those four locks and we're are we casting a real tribe?

[01:13:01] Or are we picking like five fan favorites? Like I guess now in our fifth discussion about this. What are we doing? I think we're looking for the icons of the era

[01:13:13] Or or icons it will at least got started in this era like Andrea for me is like another One that I would stump strongly for

[01:13:24] It's gonna be a bad season just because yeah, that's true. Yeah, I think I think Abby needs a lot of mention in terms of like The icons of the show. I mean, I think she was such a huge part for her two seasons that I

[01:13:36] Would put her up for me ahead of Sierra and Kelly, but I know that's not gonna happen But at least for the fifth spot, she would be there for Sarah Lucina. I feel like she represents

[01:13:47] The next year but she's not in the nearest she kind of falls into neither I think I want to lock in Natalie Anderson Kim Sierra and Kelly went with that would be my four and then I'd be happy

[01:13:55] With an Abby or a Cass. So say it again. So Nat Natalie Kim Sierra Wentworth That's that's the four lock so far. Shannon. Yeah, is that correct? Okay Abby or Sophie

[01:14:09] I think we need to have one of Cass or Denise as like an older female contestant who like well slays in this era I feel like that Cass is the person who still gets talked about to you know

[01:14:22] Yeah, that's like if you are like, you know 20 seasons later and people are still like talking about you I feel like you are mentioned all the time though every season. It's like a who's the Malcolm at the knees. I feel like Denise can

[01:14:34] Malcolm in these kids from every season It's actually the new era because every season than the new Malcolm in the knees before this before Charlie and Maria I'm not good on the spot, but I feel like It goes

[01:14:54] Abby cast Denise that would be the order of my preference. I Think we should bump one of the other four, but we're not gonna it's fine. Yeah, I just think it's a little boring Like I don't think we have any

[01:15:08] Yeah, see like I think that see what Sierra Did like Sierra voted out her mom? I think like really like kicked off the big moves era, but I feel like that Sierra herself does not need to be there for me

[01:15:23] But I mean that's like isn't that agreed upon as one more like overrated like she voted out her mom She just lost the vote She's like Yeah, like like somebody who was not necessarily like a like the all-time player but had like a huge moment

[01:15:43] Moment. Yeah, she came back twice in this era. I feel and then Jeff loved her. I feel like she's spoken about so much so Sierra is probably the person that we're even talking about that. I really want to see come back

[01:15:59] however, I will flip with Brian and Rob if there's a person we can align on only because I just think I'm looking at the rest of the tribe and I just don't think it's that interesting on the women's side and that representative of like how interesting and

[01:16:15] And different sort of these games are of the women on the larger list That's why I said there's an open slot. And if you take out Sierra, I would put in Abby and Cass I think those would be the other two we can put Cass in

[01:16:28] I want Cass, but I don't think we can put her in over Sierra. I thought Cass was already in in the fifth spot Without even in your four who is your fifth in your lock for Natalie Anderson Kim Sierra and Kelly Wentworth, right? So who is the fifth?

[01:16:43] Right, so I thought Cass was going into the your fifth spot in general. Oh, I know Abby Cass Yeah, so I don't think it's a one-for-one sub of like Sarah and Cass necessarily because I think go ahead Mike

[01:16:56] Sorry, no, it's gonna say just to clarify Chappelle's chaotic ass in the chat. This is for 20 through 31 So it's not like we're saying oh, we're putting Wentworth in even though she's barely on Sam all the sword This does include Cambodia too. Mm-hmm

[01:17:07] Now had we not included Boston Rob I guess you could make that argument of that she did not have a huge impact in her own first season But he's in Okay Sierra in as captain of the 21

[01:17:25] But is it a captain no matter what or is it if it's a tie? It was still a vote. Yeah, I thought it was only a tie that the Okay, I Guess it's Sierra or what is the question?

[01:17:38] Abby I think is the question or well shit so it's two spots open. It's Sierra Cass or Abby. I thought Yeah, I think it's three to fill two spots. Yeah Mm-hmm With Denise not in the mix right Denise is not

[01:17:52] Yeah, I think she defines the era as much but she she was a good honorable mention for me See, I feel like it for me. It's like Abby or Cass and I would lean Cass over Abby Actually, I'd lead Abby over Cass

[01:18:05] Abby makes us the penultimate episode of both of her seasons. Are you guys putting Sierra in? I wouldn't I would put Cass and Abby over Sierra just based on the rest of the people we're putting in but I

[01:18:18] You know, whatever I think we're whatever we go to like the challenge votes for two people Yeah, are we trying to people and Cali up the votes for those? Okay So we're trying to fill out of two slots

[01:18:30] Sierra Abby or Cass. Okay. Yeah. All right. All right. Look can we take a okay? Allie Sierra Happy Cass pick two. I mean I pick you know, Franny or Sophie but no well, I'll put Cass and Abby out of those three

[01:18:46] But I think it's a win-win-win so it ends up being Sarah we're doing like Brian out here I'm on Cass and Abby Cass Abby, okay Shannon Sierra and Abby Okay, Rob. Oh, you're in cash. I don't really mind. See I just well

[01:19:06] Okay, Sierra. I think whatever's good. You abstained you abstain on your second Sierra. Yeah. Okay, so only a Sierra vote Controversial take let Shannon put Sierra and then it's her era. So I'll say Sierra and Cass And I will say Sierra and Abby

[01:19:29] Yeah, so it's Sierra and there's actually there's There's three Abbey votes. There's three cast votes and there's three Sierra votes so Shannon You do you and Votes Sierra and Abby Cass going as an alternate congratulations, Abby would be flown to Fiji Okay

[01:19:56] the and then the men Tony Jeremy Cochran Malcolm Phillip locked. Yeah. Okay. Yeah moving on to the This is I'm the captain now. Okay 32 to 40 bar cod. Okay. All right, let's go All right, there are some names out Rob Okay

[01:20:24] Okay, well I might have not done a lot of prep for the spot Christian you Vicky Yeah, so this is interesting, right because we're gonna get some returnees on this season But the majority of these are gonna be one time play Angelina Okay on my list

[01:20:41] Let's start with the men. How about Dom and Wendell? I'm just throwing names out here. This is not like a locked Dom and Wendell Okay Dare, dare I alley dare I say David right say David, right? I think Zeke's there Mike white. I said Mike white

[01:20:57] There you go. You got your rear goes it mentioned Has to be I feel like Adam has to be a lock I mean, I do think though a lock has to be Rick Devins Devin. Yes

[01:21:08] I'm just going back alley. That's a strong feelings on so many different people from this era Yeah, we've had some fun Thank you I'm not hating on Rick Devins I have nothing but respect for Rick Devins and his whole family and everything that he's done

[01:21:28] Mm-hmm, and and what he did to launch the on fire with Jeff Probst podcast of which I am a vocal fan Yeah He's a debated person who maybe makes the list probably but the issue here is that with a lot of these people do not come back

[01:21:48] in a lot in the 30s Yeah, I mean there's gonna be probably like six of these people that we're talking about who returned six and eight I think Originator of the CEO Ward. Mm-hmm. Hi could definitely be up there Bail Then as a returning, you know

[01:22:07] To me, I think Zeke is a lock. I think I don't like saying it's a lot cuz we're all gonna discuss it But for me, it's like Zeke David right Mike white tie and somebody else. Mm-hmm interesting Adam

[01:22:24] Okay, I've got a type don't I look at that list Wow, okay scratch that scratch that all right Chris Underwood. Yeah, like Ali being like Do we say Davy I would say Davy but I think that I probably put a Christian over a Davy. Mm-hmm. I

[01:22:47] Think Christian and Wendell are like I would put them in Inc. Here's a hot take. Yeah, I Think Wendell and Dom gets substituted for the real game-changer of that season Laurel

[01:23:00] Casting the tie-breaking vote the first ever tie-breaking vote. Don't you want to see Laurel again? You know, yeah I've seen them on a challenge. He might Laurel show me Laurel again You might hear that very question asked tomorrow on the wish list with Bryce Isaiah. Oh

[01:23:14] Baby boy. Okay. All right. So let's get to our locks Christian Okay, all right, so let's get to our locks Christian will be a lock okay, I think I would personally say Dom is a lock I don't know if Wendell is Wow

[01:23:30] That's only because you haven't seen him play again But I think if that was if this was your casting for that era of like they're important USA I mean, I think I mean that's I think that Dom is somebody and maybe it's tough gets to your point Brian

[01:23:45] So much of the discourse has been clogged with like why hasn't X I wish XYZ person came back and maybe it's because Wendell was excluded from that conversation But Dominic is someone who has always talked about as like we need to see them play survivor again

[01:24:00] But I feel like if that's not what this exercise is that like this is who represents the era and like no beat I like that the the drumbeat for Dom to play again has been a little quiet the last couple years

[01:24:13] Well again check out the podcast tomorrow on Maybe that's our be starting again. He did play again. He just played on a different CBS. Yeah, okay Shannon, how are you feeling here? Yeah, I feel like Christian This is hard Christian David Wright

[01:24:31] Devon's Christian and Devon's for me are the two lockiest locks and David Wright does play twice in the David, right? And I do think is memorable I probably I might take him the most of the Millennials versus Gen X people

[01:24:43] Hi, yeah, I think I really defines a lot of the season this era and Then maybe we don't do Dom and Wendell because they kind of speak for each other. So So I would have and this is gonna be shock

[01:25:00] Ty Zeke David Wright Wendell and Devon's over Christian. I came down to Mike Christian I feel like Christian is so defining. I'm not I'm at beyond the point of thinking anyone's gonna agree with me I'm just saying it because I'm here that that's where

[01:25:16] Yeah, it's Ali say that one more time You see hi Z David Wright Wendell and then I was between Adam Christian Devon's and Mike white and could be happy anyway, but I went Evans. Okay All right

[01:25:34] I'm leaning. Okay, I think that's three locks for for me. I think right now are Christian David Wright and I think Rick Devon's is a lock for yeah the men of the 30s 32 to 40 specifically and then I really feel like we should push for tie

[01:25:53] Yes, I'm with you I mean Rob is the tiebreaker I'm not as high on the tie. You're not as high on time. Why? somebody rhymes Award not to find the Sarah. Uh, the seal word does I'm not I'm not out on tie. Um, but so and then

[01:26:17] Who gets the call? more Wendell Wendell that was a tie. How would it not be Wendell? I don't understand Like I guess yeah, this is Again, yeah, but but I would say if you're defining Wendell's 40 performance. I don't know

[01:26:33] Yeah, okay again he does win maybe we should break the tie the same way Laurel didn't give it to when so Right Rick Devon's tie Wendell Yeah Any strong? We're not even talking about a Zeke. Yeah Zeke is uh, I would have Zeke over tie

[01:26:54] Maybe Zeke over David, right? I feel like they start representing similar things in terms of windows vs. Gen X I'm Christian Devon's and David Wright three spots. That should be two spots You feel like get rid of one of the glasses guys like right like

[01:27:13] David, right? I feel like we're changing We're taking like unique stories out of this and we're putting in Kind of a similar like if we were really casting would we put all three of them on this tribe?

[01:27:24] but if someone would answer family feud if we wanted to like a name that's very different than all these and if we're treating Okay, we haven't all right Joe, so I think all right We miss Joe Joe played in first on season 30 darn, okay

[01:27:48] So I would say of the three that I would take the lock off of David, right? Because I feel like guys don't have to agree That's just what I'm looking at

[01:27:56] You know, well you guys can put that all three of them through but to take Zeke and tie and replace them with someone I think we've already have covered. All right, if it's Christian Rick Devon's Zeke tie Wendell I

[01:28:23] Think this is fine. Okay Christian tie Wendell Zeke Richter. Everybody's bringing a little something different now. Okay. All right No, I'm in. All right I will suggest Chrissy Hoffbeck Chrissy. Okay, I Think for me Michelle, we Michelle Aubrey and Michelle Oh

[01:28:42] For me like that that duality defines obviously this includes 40 as well for Michelle and also he's gonna play three Times in a very short amount of time and Angelina. Those are the top three for me So then that would be four. Okay

[01:28:59] Hannah Angelina would be the other two. I have Angelina Angelina is is lock it up. Okay Because I think she represents something that's not really here the chat is saying Sydney that do we do that Do we do the whole kind of core on any game with time?

[01:29:21] Co wrong, I love that final four I mean, I I would say maybe it's recency bias Rob and look I don't know how much of season 39 we would want to bring into this discussion

[01:29:30] But what about somebody like Janet maybe or Janet or Lauren? I think or or Elaine I think who gets Forgotten, I think that they're worthy for conversation. Are we are we sleeping on Laurel? Michaela probably Here, you know like a little like

[01:29:52] Who knows how they're gonna plan their second time? Can we do a while? I mean if we want to go around wild card, I'd put Rima on over maybe someone like Laura As a group listen to this as a group Angelina Michelle Aubrey Michaela and ream Angelina Angelina

[01:30:12] Aubrey Michelle That's a lock. Okay, that's a lot and ring. I think I'm gonna say Aubrey and Michelle We're gonna move them into locks. Okay, Angelina Aubrey Michelle, they were three locks. Okay, and Kayla surely

[01:30:28] Well, I think the thing about Michaela is like I I think her challenge career has brought her back to the conversation Or so than her survivor career. Well, she plays back-to-back

[01:30:37] We don't have enough millennials versus genetics representation because we couldn't put them all in she comes back. She's in game changes She's I feel like she's high on family feud and she'd be good to see again She

[01:30:49] Yeah, I think so for that era I think so I think we forget Michaela was a massive character. Mm-hmm. Okay Brian what are you thinking here? I got Angelina Aubrey Michelle Who are the last two? I think I think Michaela should be on there. Okay. Yes

[01:31:09] We agree Shannon look at us yeah, who would have thought We just become best friend. Okay, I'm open to that and then who's the fifth Was it Chrissy was it was that yeah, I think Chrissy. Yeah All right, Angelina Aubrey Michelle Michaela Chrissy. How does that sound?

[01:31:28] Yeah, I like that we did it Wait, sorry, so who got say that one more time Angelina Aubrey Michelle and then four and five are Michaela and Chrissy who's not on your from the list Shannon you said was Chrissy on their aim rearing Yeah

[01:31:49] Here's the one thing I'll say like we don't have Debbie. We don't ever we have Philip and coach We don't have any of the like kooky women, you know, like and and don't don't kooky women matter

[01:32:00] I mean Debbie what Carol I would say if we didn't have as many people from co-rolling I would say Debbie could be fun. Yeah, we have a lot of co-wrong representation

[01:32:10] Endorsing I just want to put it on the record. I endorse Shannon's list as well as it was with Reem Yeah, what brings a little kooky? Oh, yeah. She brings a lot of kooky

[01:32:21] She's baking cookies. Yeah, okay. Let's yeah, I don't cosign this we end up with Abby too. I don't remember Yeah, I've got it I've got it I've got it okay and then Chrissy all right so the new era here we are Yes

[01:32:41] Here we go 15 minutes away from Big Brother Mike. Oh my god, take it away I will do the impossible here and I'll come up with a curated list. So I'm gonna start with the five women here Okay, I've got Shan Mary Ann D Carolyn Venus

[01:33:05] Okay, I think you have the first big strategist of the new era in Shan you have Arguably one of the most talked about winners of the era in Mary Ann Carolyn incredibly popular player D

[01:33:17] One of the most dominant players of the new era and then you have someone like Venus who I think Was very much kind of defining that that wild aspects of 46 Yeah, I think you have a really obvious snub that you need to rectify financial analyst Emily flippin. Yeah

[01:33:36] But but this is also Considered that at all that is not being a part of our rubric We've said you have to be alive. Yeah, but it would have to be then Emily over Venus But I would have Emily over Venus

[01:33:55] All right. I'm good. Then let's put Emily over Venus. Okay, does anyone were missing? Can I go to my big book of survival? No, you can't I guess like listen Maria, but I I would put I put everyone Mike has over I think like Maria granny

[01:34:08] I think Erica could be like all these other Cassidy could be some of these other people But I I think those five are kind of did very well. Mm-hmm for you

[01:34:17] I only working from four five seasons or five six exactly. That's why that's why I took the last era Okay, so then from the the guys are a little bit different. We forget Asia. We forgot a show should put Asia there We didn't put 40

[01:34:33] In fantasy, yeah, we said it was the you know 41 to 46 Asia can host. All right, so the men are a little bit more interesting So I know the larger one so dominantly that they're actually not gonna let it play again

[01:34:45] Exactly for me the three locks I have for men are Omer Jesse and Q. Oh Interesting and I think Ricard is definitely a name I could throw in there Jonathan and Gabler are in the conversation

[01:35:02] Jonathan is definitely a name to put in there Gabler is interesting. Jam. Jam is another name that we could throw in there I said Jesse Q and jam jam is where my heart is taking me Q Omer Jesse

[01:35:17] Q Omer Jesse Ricard jam jam Ricard and jam jam. I mean a day you're getting the game the record and Shan dynamic back together is fun Mm-hmm The coach Philip dynamic if they have another Characters or no, I said women women. Yeah, here's the thing about Q

[01:35:37] I think what's great about Q as the modern era version of that is like he doesn't know he's that like it's like You know, it's a strategy and someone who thinks they can teach people how to play the game I guess they were that I mentioned Caleb also

[01:35:51] Caleb I think Caleb could be in another tier cuz like unfortunately for Caleb We're speaking about people that like made it nearer to the end of the game Caleb. Unfortunately finishing as first juror I

[01:36:03] See it do we are we missing a beat here with all the complaints about how the new era is too full of nerdy men Are we missing the boat by not bringing on one of like Carson drew or Charlie on?

[01:36:14] Oh, I thought you're gonna say Jonathan because you've picked me up to me I Do think as well like those are names that would be in the conversation as would like an Owen and I do think that they're worth discussing, but I don't think that they

[01:36:29] Get to the point of the Ricard or majestic you and jam jam for me. Yeah Yeah, we have to but I do worry about this tribe in terms of the physical challenges I feel like they would uh, not do too well, but we're sleeping on

[01:36:41] And I don't know if it's because of the pandemic or something Not do too well, but we're sleeping on And I don't know is he canceled offline or something?

[01:36:50] I don't pay attention, but but Jonathan was one of them like most unbelievable. Yeah, no, I think Jonathan is a pretty good one No, no, I think I think we need to find room I actually don't know of the people were talking about who you get rid of

[01:37:05] But I do think for like the tribe dynamic we have to put Someone like Jonathan, there's no one like Jonathan even in like the back half of survivor Yeah, I do think that's an interesting point. Yeah, I think for me it would be like one of

[01:37:21] Jonathan but like Jonathan jam jam Ricard would probably be the three I'm going okay and also We need record to like do we need them both? I think you rivals do need Ricard Mike just give us your lock My locks right now are omer Jesse and Q. Oh

[01:37:37] Okay, I said oh my didn't say anything I think that was a good I Was going where Shannon was going if you want record like I think it's like Ricardo or maybe but We're to Carlin do we need jam jam I

[01:38:07] Think jam jam is representative of the era I think that if you're like I think he's one of the was he not one of the faces on the Mount Rushmore of the New era, how is he not on the tribe of ten people?

[01:38:17] So who are you cutting Rob? I? think for me I think that I Maybe I go Just Jesse I don't know who I'm cutting but I think I might give you My five, okay Jesse Q Jonathan jam jam omer

[01:38:46] I would I would agree with that. Who did you cut from my five record? Yeah When wide-eyed for about five seconds that said oh, yeah actually at the end of the day it's okay You know, I know we're talking about gender parity but Evie is

[01:39:06] Someone that that should be mentioned at least Anyone from 41? It's Shannon record. Like I love Evie if I was talking my fan cast I say Evie but in terms of defining the era, I would do Shannon record and we can't even fit both so

[01:39:21] Alright, so we have omer Jesse Q jam jam Jonathan and then Shan Marianne Carolyn Emily and D Okay. All right. Are you ready to hear the list of 50? Okay. Yeah, here we go first first ten Richard Hatch Boston Rob Rupert Johnny Fairplay and Rob sister Nino then

[01:39:47] We have Sandra Sandra Suhawk Jerry Manthe the sepia and Jenna Marasca, that's our One through eight. There we go nine through twenty. We have James Russell coach Tyson Ozzie With Stephanie Parvati Amanda Sari sugar Okay 21 through 31 is Tony Jeremy Cochran Malcolm Philip Natalie Anderson Kim's spread Lynn Sierra

[01:40:23] Wentworth and Abby Okay 32 through 40 is Christian Thai Wendell Zeke Rick Devin's With Angelina Chrissy Aubrey Michelle and Michaela and Then 41 through 46 is omer Jesse Q Jonathan jam jam with Shan Marianne D Carolyn and Emily Okay, can I say something you're gonna hate? No, of course

[01:40:53] So going back to what I said about like the numbers might not be right The numbers might not be right, but the vibes will be there when you were reading the cast And let me know I agree. I think

[01:41:07] That if we're gonna talk about what we think of survivor in the first eight seasons It was like mostly You know not as strategic You know good people blah blah and per snaps Johnny Fairplay is not as exemplary of that first eight seasons as a cold

[01:41:31] It does feel like Colby's absence without you saying not Colby is felt Hey heavy heavily there that that does feel like a gap that if I were to like see a picture a cast photo on the beach of you guys

[01:41:46] It would be like like in the way that Russell speaks for that era Does Johnny Fairplay despite having one of the most iconic memorable like moments of that era? I

[01:41:57] Don't like does he speak for the first eight seasons of survivor more than I mean Colby not taking Tina to the end It's a pretty big deal to they both speak for the era. We just can't fit them

[01:42:11] If Rob wants to quit I am fine, whoa, whoa, whoa, I would like I would Give up my spot, but I'm not quitting. I am NOT a So I thought I put fair play through against your guys's wishes

[01:42:31] So I was trying to rectify that in like looking back at the whole picture if that's not the case That's not the case. It does feel wrong not to have Colby, but I don't know what we do about it

[01:42:42] Colby can host all our top. I think let's start all over and revalidate what we mean by each era great idea This this is an incredible experiment, I love it beating and age-related medevac will put

[01:42:58] Six men so I think we have I think we have the 11 met the 11 people from the first era six man They show up they compete. Oh Colby was Superman in a fat suit 20 years ago. Shannon Rob can beat Rupert in a foot race

[01:43:17] Have you seen some of these guys come on I know that I'm still going back and forth between like Courtney or sugar for that spot on era, too Listen, listen, you let me say this right now Line me up for a 40-yard dash with Richard Hatch Colby

[01:43:36] Boston Rob who else is here I Do that You are the muscle you either, you know die the weakest player or live long enough to become the muscle Like I think I think you're the muscle on the tribe. You're the Jonathan, but I'm zero

[01:43:57] Don't get bogged but I do think Courtney and sugar Yeah, I'm back and forth between them The only one of the reason I didn't suggest Courtney's because we already had to wait What did we do for the first time?

[01:44:11] You can't have six look I'm open to changing fair play for Colby but I'd be in over me and Johnny fair play for the record You could say I opened the issue

[01:44:31] I do think Colby in hearing the list back does have to be there for one through ten. We have to have Kobe Rob's God fair plays in I don't endorse that but fine Everybody Yeah Been spared from having to do this. You're welcome Yeah

[01:45:11] And he declined okay. All right, so Johnny fair play in I'm gonna You arrive he could show up at the time, let me do the pregame interviews, that's my dream. Okay. There we go. Amazing, please

[01:45:27] All right, let's do that and then and then sugar Courtney over sugar is a late a late push I'm debating it cuz yeah I mean the thing was I didn't want to bring on too many China people but and also like it does feel like here is not

[01:45:39] Representative half of talk to you from 42. So we have two people from China. It would be three. Yeah I Think sugar or Courtney alley sugar Brian sugar. Okay, Shannon kooky women But you know, I could say for me back to you Mike

[01:46:02] Kooky women Mike our friendship is Courtney gonna kooky. What about our friendship Shannon? What I'm not friends with any of you I'm gonna say I Will go with All Rob wanted where it's a few minutes before Big Brother Ninja creamies not gonna make itself

[01:46:27] I'm gonna mon it right now. No, I'll uh, oh, I'll give it I'll give it to sugar here All right, leave it alone. Okay. All right Sam says we can announce what we're doing next week, but could we could we please remind

[01:46:44] The panel what we're doing next week Yes, so I believe as Shannon we are doing a sequel to a highly anticipated episode of summer of survivor. Are we not? Yes Yes, we're defining moments If you haven't done enough arguing about survivor

[01:47:03] Until next week when again, we are gonna be going to the bingo balls and we are going to be Picking the defining moments of the aim is to cover all the seasons that we didn't do This last time Shannon won out and so

[01:47:17] People message me so many people the chat were like, please finish all of the moments. I can't Most iconic moments of each season part to all the ones we didn't get to the first time. Okay. Yeah All right

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[01:48:41] Thriving join us. It's really good time. Okay, you in? All right. Great job tonight Ally and Brian for you Everything that Ali said join the Facebook group Follow me on Twitter tick tock challenge wrap-ups tick tock. Check out that. Okay. All right, Brian underscore didn't say it Okay

[01:49:01] Great job. Bad boy of Twitter the bad boy of Twitter Yep, the survivor Gabon of of survivor tweeters as they say, okay All right, then Shannon what's coming up for you besides the bingo more bingo balls

[01:49:17] Bingo balls traders New Zealand of the vibe in New Zealand, which I always I did that in my post yesterday Yeah, that's it for me. Follow me at Shannon gates. That's all I got. All right, and then Mike what's coming up for you? well

[01:49:30] the first thing I want to plug a summer of survivor because Breaking news are happening now We're doing a bit of a time change as was mentioned at the beginning of this podcast big brother is rolling back an hour

[01:49:40] And so are we so we are gonna be going right now at 6 p.m Eastern moving forward 3 p.m. Pacific insert whatever time for your time zone there So keep your clocks tuned for those of you that are gonna be joining us live and I hope you do

[01:49:55] Listen, it was a very spirited debate and I'm sure we've all gone on people shit list at certain points over the course of this podcast But that's the spirit of the podcast. I'll be doing it all again next week as for what I'm doing. So

[01:50:08] What Brian misconstrued this podcast as I actually got to do on the free agents podcast Which was drafting people from survivor to be on a future season of the challenge So that was a very fun time

[01:50:19] Just living in my island lifestyle as I have been as I've been doing on the survivor 50 wish list talked to survivor Triple H with Lindsay Wilson today and tomorrow we got a ghost island with the baby boy Bryce Isaiah covering big brother over on

[01:50:35] Parade.com first inner exit interview coming up this week for the evicted house guests and TV for real with Sasha Joseph But you can keep up with everything

[01:50:42] I'm doing at a Mike bloom type just a couple other survivor podcast to let you know about talking with t-bird this week We talked with Janet carbon from season 39 had a fun chat with Janet and then Kellan

[01:50:53] Bechtold is back this summer with road to reality and her newest episode is with the great Jitia heart so check out Kellan's very An emotional interview with Jitia. So check that one out. Thank you so much for listening

[01:51:10] We'd love to hear what you have to say in the comments. Have a good one. Bye