RHAP Live Chicago Show | Survivor 46 Ep 11

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[00:00:24] Alright everybody, this been going to be with us for the man who made all this possible.

[00:00:39] A man who pretty much invented podcasts about TV. I can't not say he's president of

[00:00:49] the world. He is my favorite of our players and yours is Mr. Rob Zesternino.

[00:00:56] People as all know you're here. This is the biggest crowd we've ever had for any RHAP live show.

[00:01:32] I'm here tonight and the vibes are immaculate. But as far as that episode goes, I'm pissed.

[00:01:48] Alright, well we got a great show. We've got so many great Survivor guests to get to. Thank you all for coming out.

[00:01:55] In the spirit of tonight's festivities, so many people came up to meet you.

[00:02:02] They said Rob I really want to open the show with you and so I have a big decision to make about who is going to open the show.

[00:02:12] So it's down to five. Alright here they come. We've got Dr. Eddie Chagall.

[00:02:29] How are you doing here? Hey, Brandon Johnson!

[00:02:47] Okay, alright now I've invited it. It's down to five. Okay now I need a little help okay.

[00:02:54] So if you could all just very quickly here stand behind the microphone. If you could just make the case.

[00:03:02] Okay? Hold on, these microphones on?

[00:03:07] Rob I am starving to talk about this episode. I'm starving for it.

[00:03:13] Okay.

[00:03:15] Rob I think whatever decision you make will be good. I think you should not feel guilty.

[00:03:19] Okay, I appreciate that. No matter who you choose.

[00:03:22] Yeah, I mean I'm not gonna beg.

[00:03:25] Rob I've lost weight since I've been here, please.

[00:03:28] Okay.

[00:03:30] It's been my dream ever since I was like a young guy. I haven't pooped in three weeks unrelated to this.

[00:03:36] I just, I need, it would mean a lot to me to just get to lead the show up.

[00:03:46] Okay.

[00:03:52] Okay.

[00:03:54] Alright I think I have a decision.

[00:03:57] Okay.

[00:04:00] Let's do rock, paper, scissors okay.

[00:04:04] Kelly and Franny could you?

[00:04:09] Okay.

[00:04:10] Do rock.

[00:04:11] Rock, paper, scissors? Okay.

[00:04:15] Okay.

[00:04:16] Alright alright alright that settles it.

[00:04:18] Alright let's go.

[00:04:19] Ebi, Franny, Kelly, Owen.

[00:04:23] Okay.

[00:04:25] I got voted out at one of these and somehow this is sadder.

[00:04:29] I feel like, I'm gonna take off.

[00:04:31] I'll be back.

[00:04:32] Okay alright thank you.

[00:04:37] Alright how's everybody doing?

[00:04:42] Its microphones are too high.

[00:04:44] I forgot to check that before.

[00:04:46] Okay alright but it was a very interesting episode here tonight and a lot of,

[00:04:53] I felt like this was a night of very big decisions that had to get made by the players.

[00:05:00] We referenced the big decision that Maria had to make but I'd like to start with Charlie

[00:05:08] because I feel like this was an episode that was very much through the lens of

[00:05:13] what is Charlie going to do coming out of the last episode.

[00:05:17] I thought that Charlie was in this very interesting position where he really,

[00:05:20] it seems like that he has the group that he's with but then also the possibility to go

[00:05:25] with this other group, the people that were between Kenzie, Venus and Liz who were sort of on the outs

[00:05:33] and could have gone either way but ultimately decided to go with the group that blindsided Tiffany.

[00:05:41] So I would love to talk that through and if Charlie made the right decision.

[00:05:47] Yeah you know it's a tough episode because well first of all the 46 cast is killing it.

[00:05:53] Like every episode is so fun so seriously.

[00:05:57] Yeah and it's tough because I feel like for so much of the episode we saw Charlie really articulating

[00:06:02] all the reasons why it really makes sense to get out cue.

[00:06:05] You know you get out cue, you weaken Maria's power, you now Maria only has you.

[00:06:10] Like it seemed so apparent and I don't know from what we got from the episode it seemed like

[00:06:14] he got a little freaked out of the mystery of what Venus can do but at the end of the day

[00:06:19] you're trying to set up a final four with Venus, you have to kind of keep Venus in the game to do that.

[00:06:29] Yeah I think that Charlie's in a really interesting position.

[00:06:31] What's curious to me about Charlie is the fact that I feel like throughout the season we have seen him talk

[00:06:37] so much about his position, his decision making where he thinks the game is at and yet you have all these people

[00:06:42] saying like he's meek, I'm not sure if he can make decisions which feels so like contrary to what we're seeing

[00:06:48] so it's really interesting like how we're seeing him as an audience versus how others are perceiving him.

[00:06:54] I honestly think that he's in a fine position regardless of who went home tonight because either way

[00:06:58] he still has people in front of him who are perceived as bigger threats and he's in a position

[00:07:03] where he can start to kind of like spread his wings a little bit if he continues to target Maria in the next vote.

[00:07:10] Yeah I think we really all need to go to the Charlie Davis School of Threat Management.

[00:07:14] It's incredible, just talking about Harris with all the time.

[00:07:17] It's almost annoying how little notes I have for Charlie, like we get it.

[00:07:22] Eddie wins challenges and Kenzie called him the court jester to Maria.

[00:07:28] Right, that is shocking.

[00:07:30] But I feel like for Charlie making this decision one of the like themes of this season to me is like

[00:07:36] how much chaos are you willing to deal with?

[00:07:38] And I'm looking at Venus and Q and everyone's like Venus is so chaotic that's fair.

[00:07:42] I'm like have we forgotten that Q is also chaotic.

[00:07:47] It's like apples and oranges to me so I mean we'll see what happens in terms of this is better

[00:07:52] and offer Charlie but I think he's played the middle so well that no matter what happens

[00:07:57] he's actually in a really good spot.

[00:07:59] Yeah I completely agree it's been fascinating to see and a little frustrating just because

[00:08:03] I think Maria is playing amazing and hearing her game get explained through Charlie's lens

[00:08:08] it comes off a little maybe one-sided I suppose.

[00:08:12] But I agree with Franny's point like I think he's got shields ahead of him.

[00:08:16] I think having the chaos of Q who's always there as a name that's easy to say.

[00:08:20] It's been said a million times at this point.

[00:08:22] I think that's something to keep around but yeah the man in the skirt is a total wild card

[00:08:26] so I don't understand how...

[00:08:29] I feel like that Q was a wild card and I feel like it's been a tale of two games for Q

[00:08:36] where he had the game where he was the one controlling everything.

[00:08:40] It was Q's way or the highway with the six but really since that point

[00:08:46] I feel like that it has been that Q is just like a very passive player in the game.

[00:08:52] We see him like laying down and not really like trying to organize the vote

[00:08:58] and he's a distraction but it's almost like that this new version of Q

[00:09:03] has been like this perfect vehicle for Maria to be able to just like that he is super loyal

[00:09:09] to what Maria wants to do and has been like this great smoke screen

[00:09:13] for these last couple of votes and it's not even that Q other than the reward challenge

[00:09:18] business from last week that he himself has not really been trying to dictate how things go.

[00:09:24] Well another thing that's weird about Q is like exactly what you just said Rob

[00:09:27] he's kind of like lying down playing dead a little bit like has really taken his foot off the gas

[00:09:31] but the rhetoric around him is still that he's a big threat

[00:09:34] like we had people this week saying you need to make a big move

[00:09:37] we need to take out this big threat and I'm like big threat to who?

[00:09:40] Like who is going to vote for him at the end?

[00:09:42] Since when? Since when?

[00:09:44] So it's just like I don't know it's so interesting like there seems to be a real disparity this season

[00:09:49] between how we understand the players and how they understand each other

[00:09:53] and I think that's making it like really hard for me to understand their decision makers.

[00:09:56] I'd love to just come back to Charlie because I feel like that the thing that was so interesting

[00:10:01] in this episode was that Maria winning immunity I feel like really changed this

[00:10:06] because Charlie was positioned where he was set up that he did a thing that I thought was so interesting

[00:10:12] where in a season where so many people are vying for credit I need the credit it was my move

[00:10:17] Charlie is the only person that I've seen that is giving the credit

[00:10:22] and I'm like oh that was Maria's move that wasn't me

[00:10:25] and I really think that that's such an interesting idea for where survivor is right now

[00:10:31] and I really love that style of play of like I don't want to take any credit

[00:10:36] and then when I get to the end I can explain it but I guess people have to believe you.

[00:10:41] Right and that is where I do feel pretty nervous for Charlie about this vote

[00:10:45] I mean we are watching the version of Charlie where we see him explaining

[00:10:49] and really talking through all his decisions where it's all seeming really logical

[00:10:52] but as it was mentioned you know people are talking about Charlie as a court jester

[00:10:56] and a pawn for Maria and at the end of the day in this move

[00:11:00] you know he hyped up all the other players of I'm ready to make a move

[00:11:03] I'm ready to make a move you know how excited that makes you as one of the players

[00:11:07] and then for him to then ultimately just do the thing that everyone expected that Maria would obviously want

[00:11:12] it doesn't ultimately look good for him so I think he really if he is in that final three

[00:11:16] it's really going to be a tough he's gonna really need to sell it

[00:11:19] which we've seen from his confessionals he can do but it's an uphill battle I feel like

[00:11:23] Yeah and I feel like when you're at the final three you can definitely

[00:11:26] not that I mean not that I've been there I don't know

[00:11:28] but like you can definitely shift people's perceptions of you

[00:11:31] but I do not think you can flip people's perceptions of you

[00:11:34] like if people get there and have this idea that Charlie is me Charlie was a follower

[00:11:38] it will be really really hard for him to change that mindset once he gets there

[00:11:42] like he really needs to start planting those roots now

[00:11:45] I'm actually nervous that like I'm nervous that we're getting to the point where it might be too late

[00:11:49] I hear I do hear what you're saying but I think that like the meta of the new era kind of

[00:11:54] is to make your move at the exact right time I think you have like Mary Ann

[00:11:58] is a good example of that and so we still have one more normal vote too

[00:12:03] and so if Charlie knows like what to do then it's possible that he could make that game winning move

[00:12:09] right at the right time and bring what we were just saying into final tribal

[00:12:13] I think it needs to be next time

[00:12:14] He has to do it

[00:12:15] Yeah

[00:12:16] Well and that is where it's stressful because you know he's got this fine line

[00:12:19] if he wants Q and Maria out before the four it's got to be perfect from here

[00:12:24] You know

[00:12:25] It really is hard I think in this new era of that you like almost like have to like

[00:12:31] choreograph exactly like where the explosions happen like in the game

[00:12:36] because I think for Charlie he could have like potentially

[00:12:40] and all the votes were on Venus and then the one Ben vote was a I think a shot in the dark protection

[00:12:45] so I don't know how really realistic that four person vote against Q might have been

[00:12:52] but for Charlie like is that his big move because now Maria's still there

[00:12:57] like if you vote out Maria and your Charlie okay that's my big move I can take credit for that

[00:13:01] but can Charlie really take credit for my big move is now voted voting out Q

[00:13:05] and now Maria has the opportunity to really poison the well against Charlie

[00:13:09] it's just not a clean takeout to vote out Q at the final seven

[00:13:15] I think it all depends on the attitude of the jurors like for example if you know Charlie takes out Maria next time

[00:13:22] if she is like psyched about him psyched about their alliance wants him to like represent what they did in the game

[00:13:29] then she could be a really good person to have for him on the jury if he can make it to the end

[00:13:33] if she feels these are my moves Charlie just followed me then she's the worst person to have on the jury for him

[00:13:40] so it's it's that's where it like really comes into play like how and when you send certain people to the jury

[00:13:45] and what they think about you when they're leaving

[00:13:47] yeah and there's the point as well that Maria could think she has Charlie right where she wants him

[00:13:51] and that she would beat him in a final three he wouldn't be able to explain the moves

[00:13:56] she would have all the credit in the world so that could put her guard down a little bit

[00:14:00] and give Charlie the opportunity to strike and to your point earlier about flipping perception at final tribal council

[00:14:06] I mean I was talking about you know I'm sorry

[00:14:09] no but I mean I didn't help my case by saying like yeah I did terrible

[00:14:12] still it's it is it is really difficult and the way the jury is like structured these days

[00:14:19] and the questions they are asking like we had a very specific question on my jury that was

[00:14:24] what move did you take soul credit for and I had been involved in the blindside on James

[00:14:30] Noel and I use the steal of vote blah blah blah but I didn't want to stay there and be like oh yeah

[00:14:34] that was all my idea because it wasn't so it's really frustrating to be put in that position

[00:14:39] where you're trying to articulate your game through the lens of what someone else is looking at

[00:14:43] and it can be really difficult so yeah I think the clock is ticking

[00:14:46] yeah that's really interesting does the jurors like do you would like need to hear a solo move

[00:14:53] from a person like does a like being part of a move does that count does that move the needle

[00:14:58] I want to yap about this because I have a strong opinion

[00:15:01] I think that anything that you participate in or choose not to participate in in the game of survivor

[00:15:07] counts as a move any decision you make is a move it just depends on how well you can explain it

[00:15:13] because honestly Charlie could go up there and say if I hadn't gone along with some of Maria's ideas

[00:15:19] they wouldn't have gotten off the ground like they wouldn't have happened

[00:15:22] I think that like depending on how you push it anything can be a move

[00:15:26] and I feel like it's people get kind of like myopic about wanting to have something be so strongly theirs

[00:15:32] and as we saw with Maria if she hadn't won immunity that could have gotten her out this week

[00:15:36] just from being so like focused on that so yeah I think it's like I think people are a little too

[00:15:41] too they're on the resume you know they're too hyped on the resume

[00:15:44] but at the end of the day I mean I think what we see throughout all the seasons of survivor is

[00:15:48] you're playing the game with the people that are there and the jury is made up of the people that are there

[00:15:52] so if everyone in the season which we've seen is saying this is how we're judging it

[00:15:56] this is what we respect I mean Maria's getting tons of respect from everybody in the game

[00:16:01] and it's extremely clear and extreme props to Maria for winning the immunity when she really really needed it

[00:16:07] that was a hard that looked hard that looks really really hard

[00:16:11] yeah I mean that was amazing and so yeah at the end of the day like yeah I feel like that wasn't how I was

[00:16:16] that's not how I was viewing it that's not necessarily how I was voting but clearly if you're hearing that

[00:16:21] that's what everyone is going to vote on you have to pay attention to that

[00:16:24] to your point Evie I think that's a huge part of the social game now is not just reading each individual person

[00:16:28] but picking up on the ethos of the whole season and how like the group think works to a degree

[00:16:33] I mean group think is a little reductive but like just the social contract was such a big part of my season

[00:16:38] and just it's hard to pick up on but and you might pick up on it too late so I think they're

[00:16:43] collectively deciding that the resume the ownership of moves is very important to them

[00:16:47] and we're seeing it in all these confessionals it makes me wonder how those questions are being posed

[00:16:51] behind the scenes it's like so whose move was this was this your idea was that Charlie's idea

[00:16:55] was that Maria's idea so I wonder if they're being prompted a little bit as well I mean is there a group

[00:16:59] think possible on that jury I don't know we'll see but I think that this jury is going to be extremely

[00:17:07] difficult to navigate but when we're talking about like telling everyone that it's your move right

[00:17:13] I can empathize with that you want to go up there and like show like you can peacock at that point

[00:17:18] right but I always think in my season when D was in Final Tribal and we were sitting on the jury watching

[00:17:25] the idol move being like what the hell is she doing like we were with the home guys and we were so confused

[00:17:31] and like bummed and then when she was at Final Tribal she's like can I say something it almost

[00:17:36] added more power to the move the fact that she was able to have that restraint let us maybe think

[00:17:42] that she was a little dumb for a second and then you know pulled the dagger right at the right moment

[00:17:47] right and I feel like that really does get to also like the difference in play styles whereas like

[00:17:51] Erica in my season was playing a quieter game on the island but then in front of in the jury

[00:17:57] you know in front of us in the jury she was often speaking so well and you know really

[00:18:02] recovered from Dishon's truth from throwback and so you know we needed to see that because

[00:18:08] she was playing that quieter game and so it did like up her game where you have someone like D who's

[00:18:12] playing such a dominant game out there that you know maybe she can get away with that.

[00:18:16] You know I want to talk about the reward or the immunity challenge that Maria won she had to pick

[00:18:23] three two other people to go with her to have pizza Franny you were in a position where

[00:18:31] that you at the final eight got to pick people to go to the sanctuary and at first of you

[00:18:36] had apple bees. No I had some shitty tacos I would have killed for apple bees and I would

[00:18:42] have eaten the bourbon burger okay what were these people doing they didn't even eat it

[00:18:46] come on. Yeah can I just real quick on apple bees like I know like it got like it was in

[00:18:52] the episode that it was almost like it got like like negative advertising that so many

[00:18:58] people came up to me like apple bees is so terrible it's like me tell you how much

[00:19:04] I hate apple bees. It's fine right? All I know is I thought about apple bees one thousand

[00:19:09] percent more this week than I ever have in my life so. But so Franny could you just talk a

[00:19:14] little bit about okay so you're a person who you had one challenges before like do you

[00:19:19] have in your head the people already that are going to go with you for a reward and does

[00:19:24] this throw you off to have an immunity challenge where you have to pick people? Oh

[00:19:29] that's an interesting question you probably should have those people in your head I

[00:19:32] didn't I was just excited but yeah I really empathize with Maria's moment where she

[00:19:36] just kind of like froze and couldn't decide who to pick because I think it's so

[00:19:40] so stressful what I will say about that though is like I think it is a really

[00:19:44] really hard decision but to me picking Liz feels like actually a really easy choice

[00:19:49] because it's so obvious how much she's been struggling it's almost something that

[00:19:52] it seems like everyone on the tribe would be able to get behind it's almost

[00:19:56] like like a neutral choice like you can just say like well Liz was starving like

[00:20:00] it had nothing to do with strategy so yeah I was surprised that she didn't go with

[00:20:03] that. So Maria mentioned like well Liz just got rice and she gave some to Venus

[00:20:08] like did did Liz getting rice would that make it easier to say no about Liz?

[00:20:14] I mean I think that's something you can latch on to certainly I don't want to

[00:20:17] speak for Maria's thought process obviously but yeah that can be an easy point

[00:20:21] to say well she did have food. I mean she was napping during the idol hunt I don't think she's good

[00:20:26] like I think she's still really hungry. She hasn't pooped in three weeks. She hasn't pooped in three weeks.

[00:20:30] That's pretty concerning. Yes as a nurse. As a medical opinion. I'm gonna get her some Senna.

[00:20:36] Come on. But yeah no it made me realize though like at our final six reward

[00:20:40] challenge we randomly drew teams and now in hindsight that pisses me off

[00:20:44] because this was so dramatic and such good television and I do feel for Maria

[00:20:48] because that's like an impossible choice and I think it's Steven who has said

[00:20:51] before like you can't win the game based on who you pick but you can lose it

[00:20:54] based on who you pick and I am nervous just because it came up again in front of

[00:20:59] the jury at Tribal Council and then that story is getting told and people will

[00:21:03] start telling it as they get to Ponderosa and I'm worried of the

[00:21:06] ramifications of it lasting far beyond that meal. And you know with all these

[00:21:11] pickings there's not just the individual that is upset and not being picked

[00:21:15] there's the group of people that is there back at camp commissuring together

[00:21:18] and I know Xander talked about this so well in our season like the losers having

[00:21:22] that time to like bond and just be like fuck those people you know like and

[00:21:27] you know we've seen that Liz gets very upset when you don't pick her and so

[00:21:31] like I definitely you're creating a situation where people are going to

[00:21:34] be really really complaining about you and you know it's tough but also

[00:21:38] you kind of want to pick the people you want to pick so you know it's

[00:21:41] a tough spot I'm so glad I never got to pick anyone. Yeah. Champagne problems.

[00:21:47] It was just like an interesting spot too with Maria because she also has the

[00:21:51] protection of having the immunity necklace in that spot so it's a very

[00:21:55] it's a very tough spot for her but like ultimately like did it cost her?

[00:22:00] I think it did cost her unfortunately yeah I mean I think she already has

[00:22:04] Q so like in the bank whatever in the bank vault locked up never get it out

[00:22:10] so she didn't really make necessarily need to bring Q to like win him over

[00:22:15] and so I feel like she had a lot of opportunity to you know grab a Liz or

[00:22:20] Venus or whoever she's thinking even if she wants to send Venus home bring

[00:22:23] Venus on the reward make her feel comfortable something like that

[00:22:26] I mean here in the moment it's super hard I completely sympathize with

[00:22:29] that but I think maybe there was a little bit missed opportunity there.

[00:22:32] Well also well I'm just thinking like if she had brought like a Liz or a Venus

[00:22:36] you're leaving back at camp from her perspective her number one and her

[00:22:40] number two Q and Charlie like what plan against her would I mean I guess she has

[00:22:44] immunity but like it's harder for people to strategize against her for the

[00:22:47] next vote if she has these two people who she really trusts back at camp

[00:22:51] so like that could have been helpful too. Yeah it does seem like yeah a major

[00:22:54] consequence of this from how they presented it in the show is it

[00:22:57] really like demonstrated the closeness of Q and Maria and something that in

[00:23:01] general I've been thinking about is it's been kind of confusing as an audience

[00:23:05] member to understand what the perception of Q is and it seems like it's

[00:23:09] getting very negative and I'm almost worried if we're having like if you

[00:23:13] know Q is the Russell and Maria is the Parvati who gets that like stink on

[00:23:18] her from that. Oh interesting. I'm wondering if that's a path we're

[00:23:21] potentially going down. Yeah for Charlie that you know so much of

[00:23:26] this has been talked about with the I have to vote out my number one ally that

[00:23:31] can Charlie win if he doesn't take out Maria. I think if he's there with

[00:23:36] Maria he's in a lot of trouble. I think it's going to be hard for him to

[00:23:39] differentiate at that point like it's just it's so late and I think if he

[00:23:43] doesn't have a hand in taking her out then he will maintain exactly what I

[00:23:46] said before that perception that he's me he maybe can't make a strong

[00:23:49] move. So yeah I do think he has to. Yeah completely agree and I think

[00:23:52] differentiation is the key word you just said Franny because it's not

[00:23:55] necessarily about building the resume it's about being able to separate

[00:23:58] yourself and have a different pitch at the very end and so if you're both

[00:24:03] sitting there yeah I completely agree with you. Well that's why that's why

[00:24:06] Kenzie said it on the show like that's why it's actually great that Tiff got

[00:24:09] voted out for Kenzie's game because they were playing a similar game too so

[00:24:12] it kind of helps and I think like earlier on it's it's okay if

[00:24:16] you're not involved in getting out your number one you know because then

[00:24:19] you have time to make your own way but this late in the game I do

[00:24:22] feel like it has to be him. Yeah no I totally agree and I do just like you

[00:24:27] know I love Charlie he lives in Boston it's so great and I'm like this

[00:24:31] episode was about Maria but we heard it all from Charlie and I just you

[00:24:34] know that's that's the story they're telling and it does feel like

[00:24:37] eventually that that blindside is probably coming but yeah Maria had

[00:24:41] a good episode ultimately you know she wins the immunity everyone's

[00:24:44] coming for her she wins it and like now all her people are left so I

[00:24:48] mean Maria is hands down the person to beat right now and it's really

[00:24:52] just gonna come down to like it seems like to me Charlie is the only

[00:24:56] person that can stop Maria but I also wonder that if Charlie stops Maria

[00:25:01] I think that other people can stop Charlie for any of the other

[00:25:04] people to win like they kind of need Charlie to take out Maria and

[00:25:07] then one of them could take out Charlie and be the person to beat.

[00:25:11] Yeah I think that's why Charlie is you know tempted right now to

[00:25:14] keep Maria as long as he can because then he's absolutely the next target after

[00:25:18] she goes I think. Yeah and I do think it sets up a very interesting

[00:25:21] scenario Owen that it's like like a real like Jesse and Cody final six

[00:25:26] scenario with Charlie is the Jesse of could he take out and could he take

[00:25:31] out the person who's his number one ally but then also make himself

[00:25:34] vulnerable to lose the game. 100% I was just about to bring that up

[00:25:37] because I was thinking about it Jesse's move to take out Cody wasn't

[00:25:40] necessarily looking at it as like his winning move it was his not losing

[00:25:44] move like if he was there with Cody, Cody probably wins. I mean Jesse

[00:25:48] certainly could have articulated with whatever but I think he viewed it more

[00:25:51] as like I cannot go to the end with Cody no matter what but doing it at six

[00:25:55] left the door open for us little swamp rats at the bottom to

[00:25:59] band together and take him out but here's the thing with Charlie

[00:26:03] Charlie can win a challenge I love you Jesse if you're listening

[00:26:06] but a challenge beast he is not and so Mr. Beast Mr. Beast yes he loves

[00:26:11] Mr. Beast but not a challenge beast but time to get out the liquor issue here

[00:26:15] but that's what that's what Charlie has going for him. Oh no!

[00:26:20] He's prepared. Alright I do have I do have something different here

[00:26:23] tonight I was gonna bring popcorn from the concessions but I do have

[00:26:27] a Twizzler and I thought that for being such great people on the

[00:26:32] panel. Do we have to share one Rob or one Twizzler for the panel?

[00:26:37] What the hell? You can share it. You're feeling generous. You can share it however

[00:26:42] however you want he divides very easily for me. Rami, Mamia can you rock paper

[00:26:46] scissors? I gotta save some of these Twizzlers for the other panel.

[00:26:49] Okay but really thank I want to thank this first group you did such a

[00:26:55] great job starting the show. Thank you. Anything else I don't want to

[00:27:00] cut anybody off yes well done. Feena's getting voted out with an idol come on

[00:27:05] cancel Christmas take down the Christmas tree. That was your three-year-old.

[00:27:10] To quote D. I bet that's crazy. Damn you should have played it.

[00:27:13] Real quick Kelly what's better what the hell guys or what the heck you

[00:27:18] hoebags? You know what I'm ready to pass the torch to Liz on the iconic

[00:27:24] line what the heck you hoebags it's hard to beat. I think we can combine

[00:27:29] the whole whole thing. Yeah put that on a T-shirt. Alright give it up for this

[00:27:34] first group. Thank you thank you all. Also this crowd you're so good this is

[00:27:47] the biggest crowd we've ever had and you're doing amazing this is incredible

[00:27:54] alright let's bring out our next group check this out you know they're

[00:28:02] here comes Seafoo with a torch what's up man how are you doing? Here's J.

[00:28:08] Maya here's Austin and here's Heidi. Okay here we go okay yeah you can sit

[00:28:20] there here in my cards yeah okay alright how's everybody doing great okay here

[00:28:26] hold on here's your here's your Twizzler for the group each get our

[00:28:30] own are we sharing my own okay you just break that up however you want okay I

[00:28:35] wanted to I want to talk a little bit about Venus okay we haven't really

[00:28:41] talked about Venus tonight first off yeah you got it Seafoo okay Venus was

[00:28:49] the latest person this season to go home with an idol in her pocket okay

[00:28:58] Austin you had idols Heidi you had idols Seafoo and J. Maya. Fake Idol. You're here with us tonight okay

[00:29:08] but what is it with this cast that this is the fourth person to get voted out

[00:29:17] with an idol the fifth person to go home I think freakin Jalinsky put a curse on these people

[00:29:23] Seafoo people are gonna go home with an idol it's gonna happen what is wrong with them

[00:29:31] listen I was so excited when Venus said I'm not gonna tell anybody but I have

[00:29:38] something up with my sleeve and it's like no I think she sent herself home

[00:29:42] today because of that yeah you know I think the last time an idol was played

[00:29:48] correctly was Julie on my season my own idol so I'm thankful to be a part of that

[00:29:59] at least oh my gosh I want to take a second and shout out Venus's poker face

[00:30:06] after she got the idol today which I thought was incredible and how she

[00:30:10] immediately joined the search I think she did that whole thing right to not

[00:30:14] around suspicion I think it would have been very hard for me to keep a stone

[00:30:18] face about that there was a moment where she had a very hilarious gym moment to

[00:30:21] the camera that I very much appreciate it but yeah similarly got my hopes up when

[00:30:26] she said she wasn't gonna tell anyone about it and then she had that

[00:30:28] conversation with Charlie and the whole time I was like oh yeah well you know

[00:30:32] I would love to get the sense of that Heidi you said you thought that she

[00:30:36] went home because of that yeah you feel like that if she doesn't say

[00:30:39] anything do you think Hugh goes home yes I think there was a good chance that if

[00:30:44] she didn't talk about that because you can tell Charlie was really conflicted

[00:30:48] do I go with her do I not whatever whatever and I'm sure he did whatever is

[00:30:52] best for his game not hers but I truly think just putting that seed there

[00:30:57] he's like okay she's got to go she she knows something I don't know so

[00:31:01] therefore she's gotta go so I truly think that she put a seed into Charlie to

[00:31:06] think you know she just has to leave tell me more yeah I think well I believe

[00:31:12] that that moment was unsettling and so Charlie probably went around and told

[00:31:17] everybody what he felt and in survivors just one little thing they can change

[00:31:22] everything so I think you know every player who goes into survivor goes into

[00:31:26] it like saying I'm not gonna tell anybody that never happens I mean I

[00:31:34] was one of those people like I'm not telling a single person and then like my

[00:31:38] entire tribe knew by like day seven and like right so but Venus had this

[00:31:43] opportunity that like the idols that were found early in your season and in the

[00:31:48] pre-merge you know they require cooperation other people like have to

[00:31:52] know about them but Venus had the idol that like you found Heidi like Mary Ann

[00:31:58] found where you can find an idol after the merge and nobody needs to know

[00:32:02] about it yeah I really love the scene of her just pulling this down and she's

[00:32:09] like come on and and can see had no idea like really is she looking even you know

[00:32:14] I love that moment Heidi people said you played an idol and people were like

[00:32:19] well why did why'd she play it then she didn't need it right well I feel great

[00:32:24] that I didn't go home with mine yeah so whether I played it right or wrong

[00:32:28] although you never really it's hard to see everything that's happening there right

[00:32:34] so for me it was the right move because I knew I was gonna survive for all of them

[00:32:39] they're like I'm gonna survive next week or next time next tribal council for

[00:32:43] me it was about being in the moment and clearly these people were thinking

[00:32:47] like two step ahead without thinking the first step they were like stumbling

[00:32:52] the first step and they went home there's a there's a huge fear of playing

[00:32:56] your idol incorrectly I mean it's just like such a humiliating feeling you're

[00:33:00] going up you're playing it you're like okay cool no votes are read on you or

[00:33:04] whatever and it's just like this on TV the jury just saw this like you might as

[00:33:09] well just go home at that point right now I much rather than going home and

[00:33:15] be like here you know I went home with the idol I played it wrong too so

[00:33:20] I think something that you know can you really interest me about that and you

[00:33:24] said it was an opportunity I think obviously you know there are a lot of

[00:33:27] opportunities there a big one is to really have solidified that Venus

[00:33:30] Charlie connection and I find that conversation so fascinating because you

[00:33:34] can tell that they both desperately want to work with each other but she

[00:33:37] says something that trust goes both ways and this was the vote that she

[00:33:41] needed to really be convinced to be you know working with him to the

[00:33:44] end and it just seemed like it didn't click on this vote and if you can

[00:33:47] see in Charlie's he's like aren't we close now I want to trust you but

[00:33:51] that conversation was just cagey enough that he couldn't bring himself to

[00:33:54] take the risk do you think that if Venus told Charlie flat out hey I have

[00:33:59] an idol we can use this do you think that he would have wanted to keep her but

[00:34:03] no she would have had to play it yeah she could have done that but she

[00:34:08] had to play it at the moment but she could have gained some trust if she

[00:34:12] did something like that right like okay both to the wall I'm just playing

[00:34:16] it right I'm telling someone so I can gain some my life probably if she

[00:34:19] told him earlier though right yeah not before tribal I think you make it that

[00:34:23] far in the game you don't trust someone showing someone an idol I don't know if

[00:34:27] that is enough to get them to trust you but if you show it play it play it

[00:34:31] yeah yeah we've seen this season four people went home because they didn't

[00:34:35] play it we surprised that no shot in the dark came up tonight it was the

[00:34:41] last night to play the shot in the dark we saw that Ben had the Ken Zee

[00:34:44] vote which I'm guessing was a shot in the dark protection you think it was

[00:34:49] shot in the dark or was it maybe like an idol and I don't know she plays the

[00:34:53] idol or she plays yeah I can say it's safety net oh yes definitely and I

[00:34:58] you know always good to put the hinky boat I learned the hard way my season

[00:35:03] sometimes you know you got to count for it so I was yeah now were you

[00:35:07] surprised that this vote like after last week we saw Tiffany go out and

[00:35:12] then it seemed like okay well like who was tight with Tiffany that was left out

[00:35:16] of the vote there was Ken Zee also but it seemed like the Ken Zee's name didn't

[00:35:21] come up I do wonder like was it that Venus did so well in the challenge how

[00:35:25] did Venus jump Ken Zee in the order to take people out I think it's kind of

[00:35:31] interesting like when one person does kind of like pretty well on a

[00:35:34] challenge they're immediately like this is the biggest challenge threat

[00:35:37] like I mean Q like hello like it's like are you not no longer challenge threat

[00:35:43] because you didn't do well in one challenge like how does that work and she

[00:35:47] was last with the ball at like the first part she was totally last and

[00:35:51] somehow she's like a threat for the challenge yeah I know I want to kind of

[00:35:56] touch on something that was being touched on earlier which is that Charlie has

[00:35:59] won two immunities this season and it just seems like he's not even on

[00:36:03] people's radar.

[00:36:04] Oh no!

[00:36:05] He's sneaking around!

[00:36:07] And it goes to...

[00:36:08] Don't end up in the top baby!

[00:36:11] Yes very much it goes to something that I think Franny was saying earlier

[00:36:16] that I thought was really smart and it's just about how big moveitis has

[00:36:20] been this common theme of the season and Charlie is a player who is

[00:36:23] doing the little things right on a season where there are a lot of

[00:36:26] players who value the big moves and that's interesting to me because

[00:36:29] you know as was being discussed when we come to a final three situation

[00:36:33] it's like I don't know this is a bit of a random metaphor but last year I got

[00:36:37] to see the Mona Lisa in person for the first time and it's painted in this

[00:36:40] style where there are these little strokes and when you look at it up

[00:36:44] close you can't tell is it an arm is it a leg is it an eye but then

[00:36:47] when you take a step back you look at it and it's this beautiful big

[00:36:50] picture and with Charlie I'm like can he actually translate that in a

[00:36:53] final three speech into saying this is my game and he can't do that if

[00:36:57] Maria is next to him which is why this was so important and I think he

[00:37:00] really wanted Venus to like have somebody basically to move out of

[00:37:04] the Maria connection with and that's why Venus went home because he

[00:37:08] wanted to work with her and she just stressed him out a little bit too

[00:37:11] much. That was an incredible metaphor. Thank you. That was beautiful.

[00:37:14] Beautiful. I want to take that metaphor and hang it in the loop.

[00:37:18] So do you think they ate 23 slices? Was it cute I said that?

[00:37:23] What do you think? 23 slices of pizza. Are we buying that?

[00:37:27] I am. 23 slices of pizza? Definitely. I would do that in a heartbeat.

[00:37:32] Yeah, I mean they had what like seven boxes. It looked like they finished the

[00:37:35] whole thing so. I feel like these survivors are small. Austin could you do 23

[00:37:39] sandwiches bro? First thing. He's got one that was already big from the

[00:37:44] Applebeast right? The first thing in Pondage is unlimited sandwiches.

[00:37:48] He just had Applebeast. He just had a Bourbon Street burger.

[00:37:53] Yeah, although he didn't eat it. They didn't eat it remember?

[00:37:56] I feel so much pain for Liz. I mean get that sandwich revenge. Let's do this Liz.

[00:38:01] That's right!

[00:38:04] Sifu one of the things I wanted to ask you was you were the rocker of season 45.

[00:38:12] What do you think of the chief rocker in season 46?

[00:38:18] Ben is phenomenal. He's my spirit animal. Just he's authentically himself and I'm

[00:38:27] enjoying the vibes and potentially working on a track.

[00:38:32] But I think we're just two rockers. We just enjoy being ourselves and having

[00:38:38] a good time. But he's playing a great game. He also is sneaking.

[00:38:41] You think you two could jam one day? I think we could jam.

[00:38:44] Is this a survivor 50 pregame? I think so. I mean.

[00:38:47] Wait, no. I want to talk about that. One, two, three, four, five. Let's make it

[00:38:53] official for everyone here. Survivor 50! Let's go!

[00:38:59] Yeah. And Jayme, would you join in on that jam session?

[00:39:03] I would be honored to join in in Drew's language. I would view it from an anthropological

[00:39:08] distance because they are incredible rock stars. I could never channel that energy

[00:39:12] and I would just watch it and then maybe join if I was lucky.

[00:39:15] I got a chance to actually jam out with Jay Maya. Now listen to this.

[00:39:20] Jay Maya came to St. Louis and that's where I live and she hit me up

[00:39:24] and she was like, hey, you want to hang out? I'm playing a show.

[00:39:28] I was like, cool. When is it? An hour and a half? Do you want to play?

[00:39:33] I was like, yeah, send me the song. So literally headed to the show

[00:39:37] learning the songs, doing my exit press at the same time and then we jam out.

[00:39:42] So only survivors could do that. That's like you find out the plan on the way to

[00:39:46] try. Like, all right, the sun's going down. Seefoo, here's the vote.

[00:39:50] It's hard to believe but Seefoo just had two hours of sleep last night

[00:39:54] and look at him. I mean, why? Seefoo is the new dad.

[00:39:59] I am the new dad. Congratulations. Yes.

[00:40:03] The seventh Reba member. Oh, several. Yeah. Several?

[00:40:10] Jolinski, where are you? Long live Jolinski.

[00:40:14] Okay. Anything else here? What else? Let's just stick here until...

[00:40:21] I have another panel that's waiting to load in. Okay?

[00:40:27] Let's do it. All right. Well, thank you. Let's give it up for Seefoo.

[00:40:31] Thank you all. Austin and Heidi. Thank you all so much.

[00:40:34] Thank you. Thank you. All right. Staying on track.

[00:40:39] We're doing great. All right. Here we go. Here comes...

[00:40:43] We've got Brando. We've got Jake.

[00:40:50] Katara. And all the way from Australia, Eileen.

[00:41:02] Okay. All right. Katara, you get to decide how many Twizzlers...

[00:41:07] How many Twizzlers does this group get? Definitely more than the last one.

[00:41:12] So two at least. Two? All right. One for this side.

[00:41:17] More than two? You could have said any number in the world.

[00:41:21] And one for this side. Obviously, Jake, we think differently.

[00:41:25] You guys still can't get on the same page. What are we doing?

[00:41:29] Yes. All right. How's everybody doing? I'm freaking out.

[00:41:33] Yes. I'm here on holiday. You're here. And I'm on stage.

[00:41:38] I've been listening to your podcast forever.

[00:41:44] And so many of us in Australia are obsessed with what you've created.

[00:41:51] And hopefully this has steamrolled something for our country.

[00:41:54] And we just love you. And we love all of you. Oh my God!

[00:41:59] Wow. Wow. How are you feeling?

[00:42:02] Okay. I don't know what to say. Thank you so much for coming.

[00:42:06] Thank you. Okay. Let's talk about what's going on.

[00:42:11] Katara, what's your reaction to this tonight?

[00:42:14] Freakin' four in a row. Four in a row not playing their idols.

[00:42:18] I don't know. I mean, I never found one. So I don't know what it feels like.

[00:42:23] But I feel like I would have played it.

[00:42:26] Well, you know, okay, I'm glad that... Okay, Jake and Katara, you're here because

[00:42:30] there was that moment, that interaction between...

[00:42:33] Are you just bringing up traumas? Like...

[00:42:36] I mean, we're here. For no reason.

[00:42:38] We could talk about other parts of the season.

[00:42:40] But there was that, okay, Venus has an idol.

[00:42:45] She wants to do something with it. She tells Charlie, like, I got something.

[00:42:49] Like, I don't want to say exactly what it is.

[00:42:51] So there's some similarity between where you two were at the final five.

[00:42:59] How hard is that to, like, okay, like, hey, just trust me on this.

[00:43:04] I got something. Don't worry, but it's good.

[00:43:08] Yeah. I mean, Venus knows if she gets to the final three, she's not winning.

[00:43:11] It's not a secret to her. She is aware of that.

[00:43:14] So I think then the gears start turning of, hey, what do I want to do?

[00:43:18] How can I not only save myself, of course, like an idol can save yourself,

[00:43:23] but how is it a tool to propel her to give her some equity?

[00:43:27] I think that's the big question and that's what she should try to do.

[00:43:31] I think that's the optimal thing for Venus to do.

[00:43:34] Did she do that the correct way?

[00:43:36] I mean, clearly being results oriented, that didn't happen.

[00:43:39] It didn't happen for me either. But you know, that's what happens.

[00:43:43] But I think there's something like, right, you have an idol.

[00:43:46] You want to make sure that you play it in a really good way.

[00:43:49] You don't want to just play it for yourself.

[00:43:51] But you can get so lost and big moveitis and I got to flash it.

[00:43:56] Like the whole time Venus was talking to Charlie, I was like, shut up, shut up, shut up.

[00:44:00] Don't tell him. It's better, I think, to be that secret quiet sly underdog.

[00:44:06] She hadn't told him.

[00:44:07] Charlie would have pulled her in the final four and the vote would have been cute.

[00:44:10] She was so close. She was so close to having that and it just felt like it slipped right out of her fingers.

[00:44:15] Oh, Brenda, why do you think she did tell Charlie?

[00:44:17] I mean, you know, I think there's a degree of, you know, equity, like Jake was saying,

[00:44:21] for, you know, sort of using it for more than just an idol.

[00:44:25] But at the end of the day, you got to remember an idol is an idol.

[00:44:27] If you don't play it like an idol, it's not going to matter.

[00:44:30] Yeah, Eileen, what do you think?

[00:44:34] I'm going to play devil's advocate. Who here watched Australian Survivor Titans?

[00:44:39] Ferris.

[00:44:44] Yeah.

[00:44:46] He showed off his idol to everyone, or at least he talked about it and that caused a lot of like chaos in itself.

[00:44:55] And there was like this mysterious blanket about whether he has one or not.

[00:44:58] And that actually really propelled him deep into the game.

[00:45:01] So I wonder if Venus could have mentioned and stated the fact that she had the idol

[00:45:07] and maybe that would have caused a bit more chaos, especially her.

[00:45:11] And then maybe they would have wanted to vote out Q so that there's no backlash.

[00:45:18] Yeah, that almost never happens in American Survivor.

[00:45:22] Everybody's like, oh, I've got the idols.

[00:45:24] I'm squirreling them away and like, I'll tell some people about them,

[00:45:27] but I'm never going to play them, I promise.

[00:45:29] And then, but in Australian Survivor, there's so much like,

[00:45:32] hey, I've got my idol, I'm playing it tonight and I'm making a big move with it.

[00:45:35] I do wonder if we might see after this season, maybe it might shift a little bit more

[00:45:40] where either people are going to just play the idols faster or just not tell anybody ever.

[00:45:46] Not tell! That's the key, that's the key.

[00:45:49] Also Venus in such a different position than Ferris.

[00:45:52] Oh, totally.

[00:45:53] I don't even think she has the power in that dynamic, in that tribe dynamic to say like,

[00:45:57] here's my idol and then people actually be afraid.

[00:45:59] Like I feel like it would push people to be like, all right, well, it's tonight for you, Venus.

[00:46:03] I still think that, you know, what Eileen brought up is a Ferris statement.

[00:46:07] Yeah, if Ferris is celebrated as the most, one of the best winners of Australian Survivor history,

[00:46:13] is that correct?

[00:46:14] Yeah, for sure.

[00:46:16] Good for him.

[00:46:23] What else do you see different about this Survivor 46 cast in-game that is different from

[00:46:31] what the Survivor 45 cast was thinking about Survivor?

[00:46:35] Yeah.

[00:46:36] Go ahead, go ahead.

[00:46:37] This is interesting to me because you have mostly the same information going out there,

[00:46:44] but it seems like that this group looks at the game differently.

[00:46:47] Yeah.

[00:46:49] Definitely right.

[00:46:50] I think that there's, I mean we're looking at all this stuff about idols.

[00:46:53] I think that here's what you do with an idol.

[00:46:56] That's incorrect.

[00:46:57] To make a flat line rule on what you do with idols is wildly incorrect.

[00:47:03] It's going to be situational based every single time.

[00:47:07] So I think when you look at a situation like Venus, it's not a question of, wow, she made

[00:47:12] the mistake that you should never do.

[00:47:14] Was it right in this circumstance?

[00:47:17] Did she implement it correctly?

[00:47:19] I think that's the conversation that should be had versus, I mean like, look, if you

[00:47:22] want to talk about not telling people about idols, Rebut dominated because they unified

[00:47:26] themselves over an idol.

[00:47:27] You have to tell them too.

[00:47:29] What?

[00:47:30] About your final five idol.

[00:47:33] Damn, if only we voted out D.

[00:47:37] Oh, jeez.

[00:47:38] But look, I think the point is that it's so unbelievably circumstantial.

[00:47:43] Yeah.

[00:47:44] Is that to say that there's a flat line rule, I think is just blatantly incorrect.

[00:47:48] You know, I want to ask the 45ers, okay?

[00:47:52] Jeff has gotten spicier, okay?

[00:47:56] He took out the knife, he cut the rice, and something snapped.

[00:48:01] Exactly, he's not been the same since.

[00:48:03] He hasn't been the same since.

[00:48:05] And now he's bringing all these props to tribal council.

[00:48:10] He's bringing a cushion, he's bringing popcorn.

[00:48:13] Popcorn.

[00:48:14] He brought the Twizzlers tonight.

[00:48:16] Brando, what are we doing?

[00:48:18] I mean, you know, I think the number one thing on Jeff's mind right now is how

[00:48:21] do we keep Liz alive if she's not eating?

[00:48:24] What can we do to get a little bit of sus in its inner body?

[00:48:28] You know, you say he's getting a little harder, but bringing out the cushion,

[00:48:31] I think he's getting kind of soft.

[00:48:32] I don't know.

[00:48:33] I don't know.

[00:48:34] Soft cushion.

[00:48:35] Yeah.

[00:48:36] He brought the one Twizzler and said, everybody, you all can all take one bite

[00:48:42] of this Twizzler.

[00:48:43] Because he knew he was doing too much with that popcorn last try.

[00:48:45] I was like, they got popcorn?

[00:48:47] Are you kidding me?

[00:48:49] So I think he was trying to make up for it for the Twizzler.

[00:48:52] But honestly, I feel like the biggest difference between 45 and 46.

[00:48:56] Is they tell it like it is.

[00:49:00] Like if they don't like somebody, they are saying I don't like you.

[00:49:05] And I'm pissed?

[00:49:07] You're going to know I'm pissed?

[00:49:08] I'm like, if I could only.

[00:49:10] Like I remember.

[00:49:12] I'm sorry.

[00:49:13] Is there someone that you didn't like?

[00:49:14] I thought she liked everybody.

[00:49:16] I don't know.

[00:49:17] Did you?

[00:49:18] 45?

[00:49:19] I mean, look, as someone who went on a day 11, I don't know if I can

[00:49:22] talk about, you know, the rest of the game.

[00:49:24] I don't know.

[00:49:25] You can't play strong 11 days before.

[00:49:28] One of my favorite parts of the night was that, okay, so after Maria

[00:49:32] picked everybody for the pizza and Liz didn't get picked, Liz came

[00:49:37] back and said, you know what?

[00:49:39] I'm not going to keep my feelings inside anymore.

[00:49:42] Exactly.

[00:49:43] Let it go.

[00:49:44] Yeah.

[00:49:45] Exactly.

[00:49:46] You know what?

[00:49:47] After today, I'm not just going to like keep it inside how I'm

[00:49:50] feeling, which I thought was interesting.

[00:49:53] After the last episode.

[00:49:55] I'm sorry, is there a specific moment you're referring to in the

[00:50:03] last episode?

[00:50:06] Well, I mean, honestly, to be able to blow up like that in front

[00:50:10] of your tribe for, yes, Liz has a lot of dietary restrictions,

[00:50:14] but in reality, this is a very typical survivor scenario.

[00:50:18] I don't get picked for a reward and I wanted to go on

[00:50:20] the reward.

[00:50:21] I was starving to be able to blow up like that and have

[00:50:23] everybody still been like, Liz, we support you.

[00:50:26] I'm not going to.

[00:50:27] Her name doesn't come off.

[00:50:29] Yeah, she knows she's allowed to.

[00:50:31] Like they love her.

[00:50:33] Yeah.

[00:50:34] I do want to say something about Venus also that was

[00:50:36] interesting that we started to hear tonight a little bit

[00:50:38] about like people felt like, okay, Venus is doing too much.

[00:50:43] And I, and I, and that's, it seems like that that's the

[00:50:46] biggest thing that made her a target where they felt

[00:50:48] like, okay, nobody could work with her because she

[00:50:51] was going to tell the plan to everybody.

[00:50:53] And that was the thing that made her the most dangerous

[00:50:56] to this group.

[00:50:58] Whereas Q, the new Q is like nobody wants to vote him out

[00:51:02] because he's not doing anything.

[00:51:04] Liz, nobody's worried about Liz.

[00:51:07] Kenzie, they don't worry about Kenzie or Ben, but

[00:51:09] Venus, she tells everybody the plan.

[00:51:13] We can't work with her anymore.

[00:51:15] You know, I think that's one of the things that

[00:51:17] might not be great for her gameplay, but that's

[00:51:19] something that makes her such an amazing survivor

[00:51:21] character because it's so much fun to watch and it's

[00:51:23] so refreshing to see, you know, Venus bringing that

[00:51:26] to the table.

[00:51:27] Well, I think like the thing about like, because

[00:51:29] obviously me and Venus are in a very similar spot,

[00:51:31] like, it's a River 45, it's a River 46.

[00:51:33] I mean, do you want to see Venus do nothing?

[00:51:36] I mean, I think the problem with Venus and like

[00:51:39] a problem that I've ran into as well, it's a

[00:51:41] problem at finding that sweet spot.

[00:51:43] And you know what the reality is that sometimes

[00:51:45] it's not always there.

[00:51:46] You try to find it and sometimes it happens

[00:51:48] and sometimes it doesn't.

[00:51:49] And I guess my point is like, was it there?

[00:51:51] I don't know.

[00:51:52] Could have been.

[00:51:53] Yeah.

[00:51:54] But what?

[00:51:55] Like, no, I guess my point is like, was there

[00:52:00] an opportunity to get in and then make something

[00:52:02] happen?

[00:52:03] I don't know.

[00:52:04] Like personally, like at my point, like in my

[00:52:06] season, I don't think so.

[00:52:07] Was it there for Venus?

[00:52:08] I mean, I don't know.

[00:52:09] I think the only other people who are actually

[00:52:11] on the season can answer that.

[00:52:12] I think the potential would have been there

[00:52:14] if she hadn't bragged to Charlie.

[00:52:16] Yeah.

[00:52:17] Yeah.

[00:52:18] I think that was her closest way in.

[00:52:20] I think the good thing about Venus being open

[00:52:22] is at least it causes everybody to think

[00:52:24] about their own game.

[00:52:25] Yeah.

[00:52:26] And maybe they're not saying it out loud either,

[00:52:28] but then it's like, hang on.

[00:52:29] She's saying the truth a lot of the time

[00:52:31] and calling people out.

[00:52:32] Yes.

[00:52:33] And they're just not listening to her.

[00:52:35] Exactly.

[00:52:36] And like how am I going to play this game

[00:52:38] moving forward because of what Venus is saying?

[00:52:40] Yeah.

[00:52:41] No, it's something I think that's very

[00:52:43] interesting about Survivor 46.

[00:52:45] And Venus and the other people that have really

[00:52:47] spoken their mind where so much of the new era has been,

[00:52:50] oh, I'm going to play it close to the vest

[00:52:53] that I'm going to use metaphors.

[00:52:54] And I'm not really going to talk about what's going on.

[00:52:56] And I do feel like that for whatever reason,

[00:52:58] this cast is cracked.

[00:53:00] And they just say, what's on their mind?

[00:53:03] They say it like it is.

[00:53:04] Yes.

[00:53:05] We like that.

[00:53:06] There's something so freeing in that too though.

[00:53:08] Yeah.

[00:53:09] All right.

[00:53:10] I want to thank this group.

[00:53:12] Brando, Jake, Kator, Eileen.

[00:53:14] Thank you.

[00:53:15] You were amazing.

[00:53:17] OK.

[00:53:18] I'll see you later on tonight.

[00:53:20] Anything else?

[00:53:21] I just love that.

[00:53:22] I mean, we love Eileen here.

[00:53:23] But this is like, you got a lot of bellow here.

[00:53:26] Yeah.

[00:53:27] I mean for the audio listeners, you know,

[00:53:29] we're rocking it up here.

[00:53:30] So it's been great.

[00:53:31] Rob looking fantastic by the way.

[00:53:32] Hello.

[00:53:33] Oh, thank you.

[00:53:34] He's hot.

[00:53:35] Whoa.

[00:53:36] He's on fire.

[00:53:37] Whoa.

[00:53:38] Sorry, Rob.

[00:53:39] Yeah.

[00:53:40] Thank you.

[00:53:41] All right.

[00:53:42] Thanks.

[00:53:43] Give it up, OK?

[00:53:44] All right.

[00:53:45] We did it.

[00:53:46] This is really, it's the biggest crowd.

[00:53:49] I think this is also the best crowd.

[00:53:51] It's a good crowd.

[00:53:53] It's a good crowd.

[00:53:55] OK.

[00:53:56] All right.

[00:53:57] We've got here with us.

[00:53:59] All right.

[00:54:00] Welcome in.

[00:54:01] Here's Dwight.

[00:54:02] Sarah.

[00:54:03] Lindsay.

[00:54:04] Darnell.

[00:54:05] Yeah.

[00:54:06] Thank you.

[00:54:07] All right.

[00:54:08] Lindsay.

[00:54:09] Darnell.

[00:54:10] Hey, Claire.

[00:54:11] Look at this.

[00:54:12] Darnell, how you doing, man?

[00:54:15] What's up?

[00:54:17] OK.

[00:54:18] All right.

[00:54:19] How's everybody doing?

[00:54:21] Amazing.

[00:54:22] Good.

[00:54:23] Good.

[00:54:24] Oh, God.

[00:54:25] OK.

[00:54:26] All right.

[00:54:27] Darnell, how many Twizzlers for this group?

[00:54:31] Four.

[00:54:32] Four.

[00:54:33] OK.

[00:54:34] I like it.

[00:54:35] Several.

[00:54:36] Four or several.

[00:54:37] Make up your mind.

[00:54:38] OK.

[00:54:39] I'm going to pass them out to the group.

[00:54:41] OK.

[00:54:42] All right.

[00:54:43] Dwight, talk to me about tonight.

[00:54:47] How did you see it?

[00:54:49] I was intrigued to see mainly how the vote came to be

[00:54:53] completely unanimous outside of the Ben vote on

[00:54:56] Kenzie, which seemed like just a safety vote shot in

[00:54:58] the dark in idle play.

[00:54:59] But I don't, maybe I'm not sure when it became a

[00:55:02] everyone's on this vote besides Venus, of course.

[00:55:05] And I hope they explain that more in the next

[00:55:07] episode, see how that came along.

[00:55:08] You know, they decided to side it all as a group.

[00:55:10] We can't let Venus get to the end, which intrigues me

[00:55:12] because I don't think, we've been talking about it.

[00:55:14] It doesn't seem like Venus is like the major threat to win

[00:55:16] when you hit the final three.

[00:55:17] So I'm intrigued of why they all decided unanimously to vote

[00:55:19] her out at this point where you're getting close to

[00:55:21] the end game.

[00:55:22] Yeah.

[00:55:23] I think that Maria really wants to have order.

[00:55:26] And I feel like that Q is being doing a good job

[00:55:29] that the Maria and Q relationship is just so interesting

[00:55:33] where that you would have thought that there sort of

[00:55:35] maybe like unlikely allies, but for whatever reason

[00:55:39] the Maria and Q just click.

[00:55:42] Charlie is like a good soldier.

[00:55:44] He's following along with the plan and then they

[00:55:46] don't want these people that are sort of like this

[00:55:48] chaotic energy around.

[00:55:51] And it's so interesting that it was Venus that got

[00:55:54] picked to be the person to go home.

[00:55:56] Claire, you know a thing about chaotic energy, right?

[00:56:00] Me?

[00:56:01] What?

[00:56:02] No way.

[00:56:03] Top hat.

[00:56:04] How are you doing?

[00:56:06] I'm doing great.

[00:56:08] What do you want me to say?

[00:56:10] I'm doing great.

[00:56:11] Yeah.

[00:56:12] What did you think about the decision to send home

[00:56:14] Venus at this point?

[00:56:16] Boo.

[00:56:17] Yes.

[00:56:18] No, I don't know.

[00:56:19] I definitely thought it was a decision and there were

[00:56:21] a lot of things that went into it.

[00:56:23] I personally think like if you're really clocking

[00:56:25] all of that, like I think Charlie had a lot going

[00:56:28] on and like I think he made a decision and it

[00:56:31] will work to get him further along.

[00:56:33] I don't know if it's like a winning decision, but it

[00:56:35] definitely is like, feels like a safe way to get

[00:56:37] to the final.

[00:56:39] And I feel like it was a great way to keep shielded

[00:56:41] in, but again, it's like if people are getting

[00:56:43] frustrated that he's, don't think he's making moves,

[00:56:45] that they don't think he's doing anything, then

[00:56:47] like if you're thinking about your resume or

[00:56:49] like an outfit, you might as well like get a

[00:56:51] nice little top hat.

[00:56:53] A top hat?

[00:56:55] Yeah.

[00:56:56] Do you think that if you dressed up like

[00:56:58] Mr. Peanut at the Plan of Job Council?

[00:57:00] Yeah, like I feel like Maria was like Mr. Monopoly

[00:57:02] Man and like Q is her top hat.

[00:57:04] So, I want to follow this.

[00:57:06] Maria is the Monopoly Man.

[00:57:08] This is why I never made it through a tribal.

[00:57:10] Maria is the Monopoly Man and Q is the

[00:57:12] Monopoly Man's hat.

[00:57:14] Yes.

[00:57:16] And then Charlie's like, bends like the

[00:57:18] Thimble.

[00:57:20] Okay, we need to workshop this before we come

[00:57:22] on stage next time.

[00:57:24] We'll go through the analogy.

[00:57:26] I was just like, I don't know how you're not

[00:57:28] seeing the top hat.

[00:57:30] I'm just like, Darnell, I'm so happy that you're here.

[00:57:33] Rob, it's been a long time.

[00:57:35] Hey Chicago, you need to stand up.

[00:57:38] It's been a long time.

[00:57:40] It's been a long time.

[00:57:42] Everybody.

[00:57:43] I know y'all want to come back.

[00:57:45] But I'm just Venus.

[00:57:48] Venus.

[00:57:50] Everybody was like, oh, you're a Venus fan.

[00:57:52] Letting everybody know right now.

[00:57:54] Big Venus fan.

[00:57:55] That's hard to see another idol.

[00:57:57] What is that?

[00:57:58] Four in a row, right?

[00:57:59] What's going on?

[00:58:01] Let's see.

[00:58:03] So there was Gem and then Mariah didn't have an

[00:58:05] idol.

[00:58:07] And then after that,

[00:58:09] so did didn't have an idol.

[00:58:11] Tevin didn't have an idol.

[00:58:13] But then three in a row.

[00:58:15] And kind of Randon, right?

[00:58:17] Randon way back when.

[00:58:19] Way back when, yeah.

[00:58:21] A throwback to Korong that we had a

[00:58:23] medical evacuation.

[00:58:25] A lot of them.

[00:58:27] We had a lot of them.

[00:58:29] It's tough.

[00:58:31] And as a person that went home first with a

[00:58:33] split vote, I would have played my idol.

[00:58:35] I don't care.

[00:58:37] Anything that's my name, get raw, I'm playing it.

[00:58:39] It's crazy.

[00:58:41] Darn it out.

[00:58:43] You and I were old school.

[00:58:45] Yeah.

[00:58:47] I was a little boy back then.

[00:58:49] Girl man now.

[00:58:51] How long is it then?

[00:58:53] Ten years.

[00:58:55] I'm on the wrong side of the line, right?

[00:58:57] I'm officially a brawner.

[00:58:59] He was on the brawn tribe then.

[00:59:01] They don't even have a tribe for him now.

[00:59:03] Lindsay, how are you doing?

[00:59:05] I'm wonderful.

[00:59:07] How are you doing?

[00:59:09] Let me just get you closer to this mic.

[00:59:11] I'm sorry.

[00:59:13] Hi everyone.

[00:59:15] What do you think about this position that

[00:59:17] Mariah is in?

[00:59:19] I think Mariah is in a great position.

[00:59:21] I'm a huge Mariah fan.

[00:59:23] I don't know what the path is for her to the end.

[00:59:27] Because I feel like,

[00:59:29] and you and I have spoken about this numerous times,

[00:59:33] it's really hard for an older woman to make it to the end.

[00:59:37] And when without either being carried to the end,

[00:59:41] or just being seen as a threat.

[00:59:43] Yeah.

[00:59:45] They're going to realize that Mariah is a huge threat

[00:59:47] and I think they're going to take her out.

[00:59:49] Yeah, it does seem like there's a lot of talk about

[00:59:53] can anybody stop Mariah.

[00:59:55] But it is interesting that there's two seasons in a row

[00:59:58] that it seems like we had Julie last season

[01:00:00] and Mariah this season that has something,

[01:00:03] it's something starting to shift where it's like,

[01:00:06] okay now the mom has looked at as like this very dangerous player in the game?

[01:00:10] So I think they're always dangerous players in the game.

[01:00:15] It's just a question of like how far can they get.

[01:00:17] But is the perception starting to change?

[01:00:21] Definitely and I think it comes with casting like really strong women.

[01:00:26] I think, like, I am in awe of the women that they've cast

[01:00:32] in the new era of Survivor in terms of women

[01:00:35] and moms and older women.

[01:00:38] But I'm noticing that they're getting a little bit stronger earlier in the game

[01:00:44] and they're coming off as a threat earlier and earlier in the game.

[01:00:48] But again, my concern with that is how far is she going to be able to make it

[01:00:53] before they cut her loose?

[01:00:56] I just don't see it.

[01:00:58] I don't know.

[01:00:59] I would love to see.

[01:01:00] But there's only two nights left of Survivor.

[01:01:02] We have the final six and then we'll get into the finale.

[01:01:06] So I mean she's right there.

[01:01:08] She's real close.

[01:01:09] I think it's going to take some immunity idols.

[01:01:10] Yes.

[01:01:11] They've already been talking about her as like a strategic threat

[01:01:13] and then socially she burned a lot of bridges last episode.

[01:01:15] So I think it might be hard for her to get to the end without winning

[01:01:18] or finding something, but it's very possible.

[01:01:20] Her past is probably the hardest I think of anyone left at this point.

[01:01:23] Sarah Wilson is here.

[01:01:25] Sarah, how are you?

[01:01:26] I'm doing great.

[01:01:27] Happy to be here.

[01:01:28] Yes.

[01:01:29] It's so nice to see you here.

[01:01:31] Now you helped launch the new era.

[01:01:35] I did.

[01:01:36] My one episode.

[01:01:37] Yes.

[01:01:38] You were there when Jeff Probst said,

[01:01:41] I'm going to stop saying come on in guys.

[01:01:43] And now you've seen this full transformation now into spicy Jeff

[01:01:47] that he's now he now he says,

[01:01:49] I'm going to have one Twizzler and you can all take a bite.

[01:01:52] Yep.

[01:01:53] I think it's interesting like honestly,

[01:01:55] I feel like if I had one word to describe this cast,

[01:01:57] it would be unhinged.

[01:01:59] And I think we're also seeing an unhinged side of Jeff,

[01:02:01] which is great.

[01:02:02] Like he's loosening up a little bit.

[01:02:04] Yeah.

[01:02:05] Yeah.

[01:02:06] But the Jeff that you saw,

[01:02:07] like I feel like there's really been like this,

[01:02:10] such a big transformation just for like in these three years

[01:02:13] of the new era from where he started.

[01:02:17] Dwight, do you like this direction?

[01:02:19] Oh, 100%.

[01:02:20] This is amazing.

[01:02:21] I remember in casting I told Jeff like,

[01:02:22] you need to just like give people a little more,

[01:02:24] like talk a little more shit during challenges.

[01:02:26] It's like fun for us as players.

[01:02:27] And I'm glad to see him like embracing that fully

[01:02:29] like in 4060s talking a lot more with the players

[01:02:31] interacting.

[01:02:32] It's a fun vibe, you know, as a player,

[01:02:33] it's just fun to kind of just let the guard down a bit

[01:02:35] and just have fun with it.

[01:02:36] And that's the one time to do it.

[01:02:37] But Teezy, he's like backpedal.

[01:02:38] I feel like I always personally got sassy with Jeff.

[01:02:40] Like sassy with Jeff was always there for me.

[01:02:41] Yeah, Clara, maybe you brought sassy Jeff out of Jeff.

[01:02:44] Yeah, Jeff definitely got sassy with me.

[01:02:46] Yeah.

[01:02:47] I got sassy with Jeff, so.

[01:02:48] Well, I feel like he's always been sassy though.

[01:02:50] See, that's be real.

[01:02:51] I agree.

[01:02:52] I always say to people when everyone's like,

[01:02:53] what's Jeff probes like?

[01:02:54] I'm like, I don't think you guys understand

[01:02:56] how much he cusses.

[01:02:57] Yeah.

[01:02:58] I don't think you guys understand

[01:02:59] like how hardcore he is.

[01:03:00] I think he got really soft.

[01:03:02] And now he's trying to like backpedal

[01:03:04] and show everybody how hard he is.

[01:03:06] I don't know.

[01:03:07] Whoa.

[01:03:08] Oh, I can't.

[01:03:09] I'm so sorry.

[01:03:12] But, Claire, you're such a game changer

[01:03:17] because Claire sat out of a couple of challenges

[01:03:20] and that was the first thing in the new era.

[01:03:22] They're like, all right, we're changing the rules.

[01:03:25] Everything else in the new era is like, no,

[01:03:27] we figured it out.

[01:03:28] This is how it is.

[01:03:29] Three tribes.

[01:03:30] We got the whole format.

[01:03:31] So Claire sat out of a couple challenges.

[01:03:32] They changed the rules instantly.

[01:03:34] Let me tell you, my phone has been ringing off the hook

[01:03:36] since the 15 ounce went.

[01:03:37] Everyone's like, alliance, alliance.

[01:03:39] You're making alliances.

[01:03:41] Of course.

[01:03:42] I'm finally going to be in an alliance.

[01:03:44] Finally.

[01:03:45] Yeah.

[01:03:46] Darnell, what do you see that's really interesting

[01:03:51] to you as somebody who played in the 39 day era

[01:03:55] now watching the show in the new era?

[01:03:57] How hard they're playing.

[01:03:59] They're coming out the gate playing hard.

[01:04:01] This cast has been amazing.

[01:04:03] From day one, nothing has slowed down.

[01:04:06] It's just consistent.

[01:04:08] Hard, hard, hard, hard.

[01:04:10] That's what I like about it the most.

[01:04:12] Yeah.

[01:04:13] They do, I mean, they've got to go

[01:04:17] and they're all trying to get their resume going

[01:04:20] and everybody's going to take out their number one ally

[01:04:23] and it's been so interesting to watch

[01:04:26] how they're trying to do this.

[01:04:28] What about this with Owen, do you feel like

[01:04:30] are we setting this up for a 43 type end game?

[01:04:35] I think it's very possible, especially with

[01:04:37] the whole clock season has been cutting

[01:04:39] your number one ally is very important.

[01:04:41] Now we're saying, Charlie will cut Maria

[01:04:43] and it's getting to a point where even if he does

[01:04:45] it might not be respected as anyone else

[01:04:47] cutting their number ones because everyone

[01:04:49] else did it at a point where they improved

[01:04:51] their position in the game because of it

[01:04:53] or they were taking a risk.

[01:04:55] It may seem like to the jury that Charlie

[01:04:57] told him to do it.

[01:04:58] So even though everyone else can take credit

[01:05:00] for Blast on number one, he may not be able to

[01:05:02] which is concerning for his jury chances.

[01:05:04] He may be able to talk himself into like more

[01:05:06] respect in the jury.

[01:05:07] He's a good talker as we've seen, confessions

[01:05:08] but I fear for his chances of doing it

[01:05:10] so late in the game compared to everyone else.

[01:05:12] Do we see, is there a world where Maria

[01:05:14] takes out Charlie next that we feel

[01:05:16] like that Maria will probably beat Charlie

[01:05:18] in the end but Charlie is talking

[01:05:20] to a lot of people like could it get

[01:05:22] back to Maria and that she takes out

[01:05:24] her number one and now she has

[01:05:26] her number one in queue.

[01:05:28] She's gonna have to.

[01:05:29] I'm curious if...

[01:05:30] I think that's a good move for her.

[01:05:32] Yeah, but I'm curious if these conversations

[01:05:34] are happening and we're just not seeing it.

[01:05:36] I would be shocked if Maria isn't already

[01:05:38] having these conversations with people.

[01:05:40] Yeah, because we saw in the episode

[01:05:42] that Maria and Charlie were like where have you been?

[01:05:44] I haven't talked to you all day

[01:05:45] but we didn't really get to see the conversations

[01:05:47] that Maria is having with the other people.

[01:05:49] We just saw like what Charlie is doing all day.

[01:05:51] Yeah.

[01:05:52] Okay, alright anything else before we have to run?

[01:05:55] No, that's it Claire?

[01:05:57] That's it?

[01:05:58] No I'm shy.

[01:05:59] Okay.

[01:06:00] I'm shy.

[01:06:01] Okay, alright give it up for Dwight,

[01:06:03] Sarah, Lindsay, Darnell and Claire.

[01:06:06] Okay.

[01:06:10] Oh I'm gonna make a special.

[01:06:11] This is something that's actually like

[01:06:13] I have something very fun that's planned

[01:06:15] for you something that we've never done before.

[01:06:17] We have this was a really cool idea

[01:06:19] that we were able to bring together.

[01:06:22] Okay for the first time ever

[01:06:24] we are going to reunite an entire tribe

[01:06:27] on the stage and it's a popular one.

[01:06:30] Okay, let's welcome in the Lulu tribe.

[01:06:35] Emily, Caleb, Sean,

[01:06:39] Sabaya, Brandon and Hanna Rose

[01:06:43] back together for the first time ever.

[01:06:46] Hold on.

[01:06:51] I got to I just got to note

[01:06:53] Hanna Rose quit the show.

[01:06:57] She quit the live show?

[01:06:59] There was no vape?

[01:07:01] I thought I saw a few vapes.

[01:07:04] Wait hold on hold on one second.

[01:07:06] Sabaya how are you?

[01:07:08] Who?

[01:07:09] Lulu!

[01:07:10] Who?

[01:07:11] Lulu!

[01:07:12] Okay we just had to do that one time for you.

[01:07:14] And Rob I want to say to start off with thank you.

[01:07:17] Lulu is always usually the first ones out.

[01:07:20] Oh wow.

[01:07:21] They last to be here at the end.

[01:07:23] Look how far you've all gotten.

[01:07:26] How far we've come.

[01:07:28] Into the show.

[01:07:29] I'm in the show!

[01:07:30] I got to be in the show.

[01:07:32] I took a little bit but we're here.

[01:07:34] I took a minute.

[01:07:35] They had steps instead of ladders.

[01:07:37] It's different.

[01:07:39] Did I wrong everybody?

[01:07:41] I'm so confused.

[01:07:42] I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

[01:07:43] We're all friends this is great.

[01:07:45] Okay Sabaya can I ask you about

[01:07:48] now you had an idol also.

[01:07:53] Yes Rob.

[01:07:54] But you were before it was cool that you didn't play the idol.

[01:07:59] I know right?

[01:08:00] So uncool.

[01:08:01] There's a lot about being on Lulu that was uncool.

[01:08:04] But we'll get to that.

[01:08:05] I'm just kidding.

[01:08:07] It's been really cool to see everybody

[01:08:09] assess the idol situation differently.

[01:08:12] Speaking from personal experience,

[01:08:14] a lot of fans, I love Twitter first of all.

[01:08:17] Shout out to my trolls and everybody.

[01:08:19] Shout out to the trolls.

[01:08:21] Mad respect.

[01:08:22] Just having your perspective,

[01:08:25] how people were saying earlier,

[01:08:27] Jake I believe, every time there's an idol in play,

[01:08:30] it's like a personal attachment.

[01:08:33] Like when you're in a video game,

[01:08:34] it doesn't work the same way

[01:08:36] like how it would with everybody else.

[01:08:38] So it's been, I feel like we've had a unique lens to see

[01:08:41] like okay if Sabaya has an idol,

[01:08:44] what can she do?

[01:08:45] If Caleb has an idol what can he do?

[01:08:47] If whoever, it's very, very person specific

[01:08:51] and I feel like not enough people

[01:08:52] really pay more attention to that.

[01:08:54] They're just like oh play the idol,

[01:08:56] but it's like okay if I play an idol today

[01:08:57] I'm going tomorrow.

[01:08:58] Me.

[01:08:59] You know what I'm saying?

[01:09:00] Personally.

[01:09:01] So if you're talking about Long Jevi

[01:09:02] in a game that's 26 days

[01:09:04] and you're on day seven,

[01:09:06] okay guys, y'all real quiet.

[01:09:08] Everybody was like.

[01:09:09] I will say Sabaya,

[01:09:11] not just getting voted out,

[01:09:12] she was also with the idol,

[01:09:13] she was also into voting out your number ones.

[01:09:16] Right.

[01:09:17] Oh, before school.

[01:09:18] Before school.

[01:09:19] I also had not voted the whole game,

[01:09:21] so if I'm going to get my first vote in

[01:09:23] I'm going to make it big.

[01:09:24] Yeah, this is like group therapy.

[01:09:26] We never got to do this.

[01:09:27] This is nice.

[01:09:28] This is really nice.

[01:09:29] Yeah.

[01:09:30] Emily how are you doing?

[01:09:31] Literally.

[01:09:32] Better now, better now.

[01:09:33] Yes.

[01:09:34] It's fun to watch other people

[01:09:35] embarrass themselves on TV.

[01:09:36] Oh.

[01:09:37] Yeah.

[01:09:38] I love that part.

[01:09:39] Okay, so Lulu, yeah,

[01:09:40] Lulu came up a lot this season

[01:09:42] in comparison to the Yanu tribe this season, okay?

[01:09:47] Now, we still have Q and Ken Z

[01:09:50] that are in the game,

[01:09:51] but I would love to get some thoughts on

[01:09:53] how you feel like to be compared to Yanu.

[01:09:57] They're like the Caleb and Emily, to me.

[01:10:01] Personally, I mean,

[01:10:02] I feel like Caleb because he forced a,

[01:10:05] like obviously a bond with Emily

[01:10:07] in the beginning of like the merge

[01:10:09] and everything like that.

[01:10:10] They were able to see it through

[01:10:11] because Q Tiff was his like more so

[01:10:14] number one out of the three.

[01:10:16] It didn't really have the same, you know, effect,

[01:10:18] but I like the idea of them

[01:10:21] potentially working together in the future.

[01:10:23] I feel like that would be crazy.

[01:10:25] I will say, you know, to be at a final seven vote

[01:10:28] and have this icon voted out

[01:10:30] who was super transparent came down on every one.

[01:10:34] Yes.

[01:10:35] It was so cool.

[01:10:36] Finally it wasn't Emily.

[01:10:37] We got to move on to the next one.

[01:10:40] I will say I like to think about a world

[01:10:41] where Venus had a Caleb, right?

[01:10:43] Because I feel like that was the thing

[01:10:44] that Venus was lacking

[01:10:45] in her experience with her initial tribe

[01:10:47] was somebody who was willing to reach out

[01:10:49] and give an olive branch.

[01:10:50] And half of that is the self reflection

[01:10:52] to say I need to change the way

[01:10:53] that I communicate with people.

[01:10:54] But the other half is having somebody

[01:10:56] who is willing to put the past

[01:10:57] in the past and work forward in the future.

[01:10:58] And so much of this season has been characterized

[01:11:01] by I think grudges, if I'm honest with you

[01:11:03] and the inability to get past

[01:11:05] initial first impressions.

[01:11:06] And that's very much like how I imagine

[01:11:09] 46 moving forward.

[01:11:11] Rob, I just want to say.

[01:11:16] Damn.

[01:11:17] I'm going to push back on that.

[01:11:19] I just want to say I was so thrilled

[01:11:21] on Survivor that the Lulu tribe

[01:11:24] could have held that worst tribe

[01:11:26] in Survivor history.

[01:11:27] And then came Yannu.

[01:11:28] And I was like, oh we didn't, you know,

[01:11:30] we didn't live that out long enough.

[01:11:32] Do you want that?

[01:11:33] Do you all want to be the worst tribe

[01:11:35] in Survivor history?

[01:11:36] I'm the wrong person to ask.

[01:11:38] I feel like I might have an elite cause.

[01:11:41] I want to give like a compliment.

[01:11:42] Can I give a compliment very quickly?

[01:11:44] It depends who it's to.

[01:11:45] This is well, listen.

[01:11:46] Going out early on Survivor, not ideal, right?

[01:11:49] And I think it makes a really,

[01:11:50] it takes a really special person

[01:11:52] to take such a, like you see Bryce do it.

[01:11:54] Take a, you know, a bummer of a situation

[01:11:56] and make it into something like really cool.

[01:11:59] And Jalinsky is a fucking legend, man.

[01:12:02] Jalinsky's a legend.

[01:12:03] He's up against tonight.

[01:12:04] He's a legend.

[01:12:05] Like I again, I just went through it

[01:12:07] and I'm inspired by every time,

[01:12:09] every time I see him do something

[01:12:10] he's just, he's so good at what he's doing.

[01:12:12] And I just like, you know,

[01:12:13] for all the early boots

[01:12:14] he is our representation.

[01:12:16] That's the guy you want to be is Jalinsky.

[01:12:19] This is real.

[01:12:21] The person who I want to be is Charlie right now.

[01:12:24] Oh, wow.

[01:12:25] Listen.

[01:12:26] Yeah.

[01:12:27] Yeah, coming in and watching him, you know,

[01:12:30] be able to kind of read off of Venus

[01:12:32] that obviously she showed her hands

[01:12:34] saying that she had something up her sleeve, right?

[01:12:36] And pivoting and trusting your gut.

[01:12:40] I think that's something that I've learned

[01:12:41] and probably a lot of people who played Survivor

[01:12:43] it's wishing you went with your gut quicker

[01:12:45] instead of waiting to see more evidence

[01:12:47] and more facts.

[01:12:48] And so it was cool to see that, you know,

[01:12:50] we obviously, you know,

[01:12:51] something Charlie and I share

[01:12:52] is our threat management level.

[01:12:54] So it's gonna be cool to see him do that,

[01:12:57] you know, in the final seven vote.

[01:12:59] Yeah.

[01:13:00] But you felt like that he went with his gut

[01:13:01] to take out Venus in this spot

[01:13:03] as opposed to going and taking out Cube

[01:13:06] which would have been the bigger move.

[01:13:08] Absolutely.

[01:13:10] Cube's still being in this game right now.

[01:13:13] Right?

[01:13:15] I love, I mean it's like, of course,

[01:13:17] like as a, I mean we are all fans.

[01:13:19] I can speak for, because I know them,

[01:13:21] but like having somebody that has been

[01:13:23] on the bottom for so long

[01:13:25] and it's still like,

[01:13:26] and has almost done like the below the radar

[01:13:29] so deep that it's like,

[01:13:31] okay, like I'm still the biggest smoke screen

[01:13:33] in the game,

[01:13:34] but I really don't even say nothing.

[01:13:36] It's really blows my mind.

[01:13:38] Like I'm, I feel like I don't know

[01:13:40] if it's unprecedented,

[01:13:41] but he's just been such a unique character

[01:13:43] for this season.

[01:13:44] Yeah, no, Cube has been amazing in that,

[01:13:47] you know, it looked like his game was completely done

[01:13:52] and that they don't want to vote him out.

[01:13:54] Like his name comes up,

[01:13:56] but everybody's like,

[01:13:57] nope, we'll go with somebody else

[01:13:59] and it's just been like so remarkable,

[01:14:03] especially that he is this incredibly thin,

[01:14:07] incredibly fit guy.

[01:14:08] He won the challenge.

[01:14:09] I was like, and they keep eating him.

[01:14:11] And it used to be, you know,

[01:14:13] like, oh, I don't want to let the guy

[01:14:14] who's really good at challenges

[01:14:15] like keep eating

[01:14:16] and he gets to the end.

[01:14:18] He's, he's at stage 20.

[01:14:19] He's right there.

[01:14:21] He's eating more than I have

[01:14:22] the last two days.

[01:14:25] Speaking for somebody that did not eat at all

[01:14:27] except for like what?

[01:14:28] I mean, I know I didn't get the pineapple.

[01:14:30] Y'all ate that, right?

[01:14:31] Grape.

[01:14:32] Grape.

[01:14:33] Grape.

[01:14:34] Grape.

[01:14:35] Grape.

[01:14:36] Like people don't like to say that we won one challenge,

[01:14:39] but we did.

[01:14:40] Oh, you go one fruit.

[01:14:41] I wasn't there for the grapes.

[01:14:43] I missed the grapes by the end of the day.

[01:14:45] We had fruit,

[01:14:46] but it does take a toll on you.

[01:14:48] So them fueling him is really interesting as well.

[01:14:51] Yeah.

[01:14:52] And you know, in about Q,

[01:14:53] I feel like, you know,

[01:14:54] season 46 will probably disagree from everything

[01:14:56] I've seen so far,

[01:14:57] but it seems like he's really been humbled

[01:14:59] being at the bottom

[01:15:01] and just having to play his role

[01:15:02] as the soldier in the Alliance, right?

[01:15:04] A vote,

[01:15:05] not too crazy kind of laying low,

[01:15:07] sleeping by himself.

[01:15:08] Did you just say Q has been humbled?

[01:15:11] Are we watching two separate shows, Kaleigh?

[01:15:14] Emily wants to push back on that.

[01:15:16] I feel like I feel like I should push back on that.

[01:15:18] But his ability to be a kind of like a chameleon

[01:15:21] and flip,

[01:15:22] because he was very like,

[01:15:23] this is what we're going to do,

[01:15:24] bump, bump, bump.

[01:15:25] And now he's like,

[01:15:26] okay, whatever you want me to do.

[01:15:28] That is a very,

[01:15:29] I was sour Kaleigh with that,

[01:15:31] not surprising,

[01:15:32] but it's a very like,

[01:15:34] hard thing to do in a,

[01:15:36] in Survivor where you like have so much going on.

[01:15:38] Yeah.

[01:15:39] Emily, it came up earlier tonight

[01:15:41] that the last time an Idol got used correctly

[01:15:44] on Survivor was to send you home.

[01:15:47] And that's what,

[01:15:48] and that's what it took to get you out

[01:15:50] of successful Idol play.

[01:15:52] I was not long for the road.

[01:15:54] Emily, do you hope that an Idol

[01:15:56] never gets played correctly again?

[01:15:59] Yeah, just out of sheer spites.

[01:16:00] I hope that there are no more idols.

[01:16:02] Did you put a curse on the Idol?

[01:16:04] Did you jinx the Idol?

[01:16:05] I like to say that Julie did really.

[01:16:07] I mean, nobody is going to

[01:16:08] associate Julie's Idol play,

[01:16:09] but I will say,

[01:16:10] I do think that if you are on season 47,

[01:16:12] if you're on season 48,

[01:16:13] there is not a chance we see.

[01:16:15] And I will go down right now saying it,

[01:16:17] having not even taped these seasons yet.

[01:16:19] There is not a chance somebody on season 47

[01:16:22] or seasons 48 goes home

[01:16:24] with an Idol in their pocket.

[01:16:25] Now, not after this show.

[01:16:27] Mm-hmm.

[01:16:28] Right.

[01:16:29] They were all laughing at who was it,

[01:16:31] Brandon that played his like the first,

[01:16:33] the first tribal.

[01:16:34] Everybody was like, why did he do that?

[01:16:36] But it matters like your mindset.

[01:16:38] Sometimes it's just better to get that off.

[01:16:40] Like he was right to do that.

[01:16:42] I mean, I like that I would have had that mentality.

[01:16:44] Like, okay, so my pocket is burning a hole.

[01:16:46] Just get rid of it.

[01:16:47] You know, Brandon,

[01:16:49] what is Jeff bringing to tribal council next week?

[01:16:53] Yeah, I'm over the took.

[01:16:55] They did this stuff is getting too much stuff.

[01:16:57] Right.

[01:16:58] What about milk duds?

[01:16:59] I hate a milk duds.

[01:17:01] A milk duds is bad.

[01:17:02] If we're going to do a candy,

[01:17:03] get like a Kit Kat,

[01:17:05] get a mini M&M.

[01:17:07] I want to, this is off topic and I'm sorry,

[01:17:09] but we had a funny thing happen today,

[01:17:11] all of us,

[01:17:12] and I'm going to just tee it to Emily

[01:17:13] on our way to the baseball game that we went to.

[01:17:15] Emily, it's so good.

[01:17:17] It's, oh, just to set the scene,

[01:17:19] all of us are in an Uber, okay?

[01:17:20] We're going to the game

[01:17:22] and I'm going to cut to Emily.

[01:17:23] Well, let me just say that

[01:17:25] I feel like Austin screwed me in the game

[01:17:27] in a lot of different ways,

[01:17:29] but I have never felt more screwed

[01:17:31] than the moment I did double check with Austin

[01:17:33] that we were going to Wiggly Field.

[01:17:35] Wiggly Field.

[01:17:37] And he called his Uber,

[01:17:39] I called our Uber,

[01:17:41] and we did go to Wiggly Field.

[01:17:43] Wiggly Field is a dog park

[01:17:45] three miles from the stadium.

[01:17:47] But also like Emily,

[01:17:51] and Faraday's like,

[01:17:53] do they have to name it Wiggly Field?

[01:17:55] Like can you believe we never want to challenge?

[01:17:57] Faraday? Yeah.

[01:18:01] This is the brain to our puzzles.

[01:18:03] The five of us pull up

[01:18:05] and it's like so residential

[01:18:07] on the street, and we're like, is this it?

[01:18:09] And then Caleb spots

[01:18:11] the Wiggly Field sign.

[01:18:15] You got out of the car at the dog park.

[01:18:17] Well actually I convinced our Uber driver

[01:18:19] who barely spoke English

[01:18:21] to drive us to the correct location

[01:18:23] but he was very confused.

[01:18:24] And the same Uber driver drove us here.

[01:18:26] Yes, and he did not remember us

[01:18:28] and I was very offended

[01:18:30] because I thought we made an impression.

[01:18:32] He didn't remember this group?

[01:18:34] It tracks for a little bit.

[01:18:36] You're not exactly like non-descript pie.

[01:18:40] Like almost iconic.

[01:18:46] We're real, this is good.

[01:18:48] We should have just done this.

[01:18:50] He's good.

[01:18:52] Yeah, I mean challenges, bad podcasts,

[01:18:54] you guys are great.

[01:18:56] I've been at one of these where Emily and Sabi

[01:18:58] are not just yelling at each other.

[01:19:00] This is awesome. Amazing.

[01:19:02] But our time has run out.

[01:19:04] I'm sorry.

[01:19:06] It was a pleasure. We'll let you guys

[01:19:08] get back to the dog park.

[01:19:10] Give it up for the Lululu tribe.

[01:19:16] Great job, thank you.

[01:19:20] I've got one more panel.

[01:19:22] This audience has been so great.

[01:19:24] Such a gracious audience.

[01:19:26] Appreciate you so much.

[01:19:28] We've got a real treat for you.

[01:19:30] How about four dessert?

[01:19:32] Something a little different, okay?

[01:19:34] We've got a big brother panel.

[01:19:36] Please welcome in

[01:19:38] Jessica Malagros.

[01:19:40] We've got

[01:19:44] America Corey.

[01:19:50] We've got, what are we doing here?

[01:19:52] Okay, we're going to have a little chat.

[01:19:54] We're going to have a little chat.

[01:19:56] Okay.

[01:19:58] Are we sitting?

[01:20:00] Here, you want me to stand?

[01:20:02] Do we stand?

[01:20:04] Do we stand?

[01:20:06] Okay.

[01:20:08] Alright, Izzy, we've got Jag,

[01:20:10] we've got America Corey and Bid.

[01:20:12] Survivor of 46's favorite cast member

[01:20:14] Andy Hellen.

[01:20:16] Okay.

[01:20:19] You're all come back.

[01:20:21] Alright.

[01:20:23] How's everybody doing?

[01:20:25] Great.

[01:20:27] Never better.

[01:20:29] Andy's been looking forward to this.

[01:20:31] Since he clicked send.

[01:20:33] Andy, is this a sleigh or what?

[01:20:35] Okay, I will fully admit

[01:20:37] that I think that it has gotten much better

[01:20:39] from when I initially tweeted.

[01:20:41] It was a very wild

[01:20:43] thing that happened.

[01:20:45] I remember the night like it was yesterday.

[01:20:47] I was not doing anything.

[01:20:49] I watched the movie Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist.

[01:20:51] And while I was watching the movie Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist,

[01:20:53] and while I was great underrated movie,

[01:20:55] while I was watching it,

[01:20:57] I truly was just like, you know what?

[01:20:59] I'm not that into.

[01:21:01] Survivor 46.

[01:21:03] And so just on my couch thinking nothing of it,

[01:21:05] I tweeted it, went to bed, put my sweet little head down,

[01:21:07] woke up,

[01:21:09] and was just like, oh,

[01:21:11] what is going on?

[01:21:13] 2000 Twitter notes.

[01:21:15] Charlie Davis quote tweeted you, oh, okay.

[01:21:17] And then I just kept reading them

[01:21:19] and I was like, I think I'm canceled.

[01:21:21] And I was just like, I can either ignore it

[01:21:23] or make fun of it.

[01:21:25] And I think I have to make fun of it.

[01:21:27] But you know in hindsight,

[01:21:29] looking back and it was early in the season,

[01:21:31] the way that the Survivor 46 treated Andy

[01:21:33] was like the most Survivor 46

[01:21:35] thing that could have happened.

[01:21:37] I brought them together.

[01:21:39] Like, oh yeah, this is how they are.

[01:21:41] This is what it's like.

[01:21:43] Yeah, they're so sweet and fun.

[01:21:45] Yes. Izzy, how are you doing?

[01:21:47] I'm good. Hello Chicago.

[01:21:49] Wow.

[01:21:51] I'm big in Chicago.

[01:21:53] Wow, what an ovation.

[01:21:55] Yes.

[01:21:57] As a member of the Fields family,

[01:21:59] honorary survivor,

[01:22:01] yes.

[01:22:03] What do you think about this season?

[01:22:05] Listen.

[01:22:07] I ultimately think this season is like

[01:22:09] a mess, great TV, you know.

[01:22:11] I think, you know,

[01:22:13] I have a lot of opinions about the idle thing.

[01:22:15] I think like this season

[01:22:17] there's a lot of advantages,

[01:22:19] a lot of idols,

[01:22:21] a lot of stuff in the new era.

[01:22:23] And I think it's like

[01:22:25] less of fear maybe of like using it

[01:22:27] correctly and a fear of being

[01:22:29] without something. No one wants to be

[01:22:31] serene on game changers.

[01:22:33] Right. And this new era, there's so much out there

[01:22:35] and people are scared of the next

[01:22:37] vote but if you don't even get to the next

[01:22:39] night, who cares?

[01:22:41] Yeah, that's interesting.

[01:22:43] I never heard it put that way

[01:22:45] that there's so many things.

[01:22:47] It's like finally I have a thing.

[01:22:49] I can't be without my thing.

[01:22:51] It's scary to be without your thing.

[01:22:53] Yeah.

[01:22:55] Okay, America, how are you feeling

[01:22:57] about this season? Wow.

[01:22:59] I like it. I love people

[01:23:04] backstabbing, blindsiding each other.

[01:23:06] I think it's so fun. I'm kind of new to

[01:23:08] survivor. So Cory's like, oh, they always

[01:23:10] have blindsides and I'm like, oh well, you know,

[01:23:12] I wish there were more our season and I wish

[01:23:14] there was more people cutting their number

[01:23:16] once. I really hope that happens.

[01:23:18] I was really, you know, rooting for

[01:23:20] that in the jury house. Like, I like

[01:23:22] it. I'm here for it. I love the drama.

[01:23:24] Yeah, it's very messy. Yeah.

[01:23:26] You like that? I like it.

[01:23:28] I wish Venus would have played her. I'm like

[01:23:30] saying like, because I'm like, Cory, why don't

[01:23:32] they play their idol? I would rather play

[01:23:34] it and not have any votes and like

[01:23:36] regret. I'd rather, what do I say, babe?

[01:23:38] Like, I'd rather, it was good.

[01:23:40] It was good. Whatever I said, it was good.

[01:23:42] It was not bad. It sounds like it.

[01:23:44] I'd rather go home

[01:23:46] and like, no, I'd rather stay

[01:23:48] and use it than go home having it.

[01:23:50] Like, I just don't get it.

[01:23:52] I agree.

[01:23:54] No, I think like, there is

[01:23:56] the idea that Izzy was talking about of like,

[01:23:58] I don't think it's fear of playing it wrong

[01:24:00] necessarily. When you have the idol,

[01:24:02] you also know a lot of people also

[01:24:04] don't have the idol. The second you use

[01:24:06] it, it goes back into play. There's another

[01:24:08] idol hunt going on. I think what's super

[01:24:10] interesting now, so even Charlie

[01:24:12] doesn't know Venus had the idol.

[01:24:14] I don't think there's going to be an idol hunt

[01:24:16] because everyone's going to assume somebody has it.

[01:24:18] So we might be done with idols

[01:24:20] for the season.

[01:24:22] I don't know, I think they're going to go back out

[01:24:24] and look for idols after this. Not Liz.

[01:24:26] Not Liz. No.

[01:24:28] No.

[01:24:30] Liz has never looked for idols.

[01:24:32] Jessica, are you a big survivor fan?

[01:24:34] I am. Yes.

[01:24:36] Yes. I love me some like

[01:24:38] really strong women and

[01:24:40] heads up. Like, I'm in love

[01:24:42] with all the women from

[01:24:44] the new era

[01:24:46] because I feel like, I mean I love all

[01:24:48] the women on Survivor but I feel like

[01:24:50] this new era of women

[01:24:52] have just been big bosses.

[01:24:54] I just want to see someone make a big move.

[01:24:58] You know, I'm about the

[01:25:00] big moves. Big moves. Take them out.

[01:25:02] Take them out.

[01:25:04] I just need someone to go.

[01:25:06] I need a big threat to go home.

[01:25:08] I mean, it would have been a big move

[01:25:10] for Venus to use that

[01:25:12] idol and take Q out.

[01:25:14] Yeah. I think that would have been a great move.

[01:25:16] Yeah. But she didn't know

[01:25:18] it was coming.

[01:25:20] But I love that there's like

[01:25:22] all the women left

[01:25:24] plus...Q and Charlie and Ben.

[01:25:26] Yeah.

[01:25:28] I mean, yeah.

[01:25:30] I guess I only focus on the women but yeah.

[01:25:32] But Maria is looking like she's in the best spot.

[01:25:34] I'm starting to get the same way.

[01:25:36] At Kenzie?

[01:25:38] I think Kenzie's in a great spot.

[01:25:40] Kenzie seems to be sort of like

[01:25:42] the filter for both sides.

[01:25:44] You know, everyone seems to be coming to her

[01:25:46] to run their plan or things by her

[01:25:48] and that's extremely valuable

[01:25:50] and also no heats on her.

[01:25:52] She's the only duo where her Tiffany went

[01:25:54] and she's not immediately going after her.

[01:25:56] Everyone's talking about Charlie and Maria that way.

[01:25:58] We haven't talked about it tonight but Kenzie did a really good job.

[01:26:00] She was kind of in her feelings

[01:26:02] and she was like,

[01:26:04] I'm going to go to the tribal council

[01:26:06] and then sort of like, all right.

[01:26:08] I'm going to rebound from this

[01:26:10] and then she wasn't really even in discussion to go home

[01:26:12] so she's rebounded really well

[01:26:14] from that when she could have been the next person to go home.

[01:26:16] Jack, how do you feel?

[01:26:18] How's it going? I'm happy to be here.

[01:26:22] What's up, Jack?

[01:26:24] You know, something that I think is really cool

[01:26:26] about Survivor.

[01:26:28] I'm a newer Survivor watcher as well

[01:26:30] is how they're talking through

[01:26:32] and they're happening live and Jerry is learning about it

[01:26:34] as it happens and so

[01:26:36] it's been cool watching them make their cases

[01:26:38] and they're obviously very vocal about it

[01:26:40] and so that's cool.

[01:26:42] I'm interested to see how it all plays out.

[01:26:44] Yeah.

[01:26:46] Andy, who are you rooting for?

[01:26:48] I really like

[01:26:50] the position that Charlie is in right now.

[01:26:52] I like that he is like,

[01:26:54] Charlie is like the beating heart

[01:26:56] of what's going on but he's got

[01:26:58] the limbs and the body flailing

[01:27:00] in front of him and like Maria

[01:27:02] and then Q and then the other players

[01:27:04] and I think that if he strikes

[01:27:06] at the right time and if he makes the right moves

[01:27:08] and I think it's going to be like a delicate process.

[01:27:10] I think that all of his

[01:27:12] small moves will culminate into something

[01:27:14] really impressive if he can make it

[01:27:16] to the end but it's a big if.

[01:27:18] Tonight, America,

[01:27:20] that when Charlie talked to Kenzie

[01:27:22] he used a turn of phrase that I

[01:27:24] haven't ever heard before. He said,

[01:27:26] I'm going to tell you the Taylor Swift

[01:27:28] honest truth.

[01:27:30] Now,

[01:27:32] is that a real thing

[01:27:34] and then if Charlie

[01:27:36] lies on Taylor Swift

[01:27:38] does he get canceled like Andy?

[01:27:40] Well like I hate to say it

[01:27:42] but you got the wrong one.

[01:27:44] I'm not the Swifty, Cory is.

[01:27:46] Oh.

[01:27:48] Anybody knows about T-Swift, it's him.

[01:27:50] They actually when we were in lockdowns

[01:27:52] in the house they would play

[01:27:54] Taylor Swift just for Cory.

[01:27:56] They told us later that like Cory

[01:27:58] we played all too well the 10 minute version

[01:28:00] because we heard you really like Taylor Swift.

[01:28:02] So he's the Swifty.

[01:28:04] A lot of people complain about how much Charlie mentions it.

[01:28:06] Y'all are just lucky they edited out my DRs.

[01:28:08] Every other word.

[01:28:10] I just want to touch on what Izzy was saying about Charlie

[01:28:12] because like Charlie's game is so interesting to me.

[01:28:14] If he has a chance of getting

[01:28:16] jury votes, he's playing perfectly

[01:28:18] but he might just not have

[01:28:20] a chance and we're just seeing

[01:28:22] a totally different version than what the jury is seeing.

[01:28:24] I think what this shows is he has a lot of faith in Ben.

[01:28:26] Because right now at the final six

[01:28:28] he's going to have the same chance to do

[01:28:30] the move he wanted at the final seven

[01:28:32] assuming Ben's on board.

[01:28:34] I have no idea we haven't seen much of Ben's

[01:28:36] thought process but if he's able to get

[01:28:38] Maria out now, it's one week earlier

[01:28:40] one less week he needs to win out

[01:28:42] and if Jack kind of showed

[01:28:44] if you have win equity you're towards the end

[01:28:46] you can just kind of win the stuff

[01:28:48] and get to the end.

[01:28:50] Wow.

[01:28:52] Jack look at you.

[01:28:54] He's sweating bullets right now.

[01:28:56] That was actually

[01:28:58] I'm a ventriloquist and I

[01:29:00] I said

[01:29:02] that was not a good one.

[01:29:04] That's so good.

[01:29:09] Okay, now

[01:29:13] it's not a big part

[01:29:15] of Big Brother the choose people

[01:29:17] for rewards

[01:29:19] that we saw Maria

[01:29:21] have to do tonight. What was the reaction

[01:29:23] from the Big Brother panel about that?

[01:29:25] I had to do it.

[01:29:27] I had to choose people and

[01:29:29] I was playing so well that they all volunteered

[01:29:31] to do it so I didn't have to choose

[01:29:33] but it made my life

[01:29:35] very easy if I had done it I would

[01:29:37] have just wanted to do it fairly like

[01:29:39] squarely like you three were have not

[01:29:41] last like I would have done it like that

[01:29:43] I wouldn't have been emotional.

[01:29:45] Yeah, I picked Izzy to be a have not with me

[01:29:47] I beg to be a have not with you.

[01:29:49] Yeah

[01:29:51] I chose Bowie and my whole thought process is

[01:29:53] Bowie's not going to be mad at me and Bowie was

[01:29:55] really mad at me so

[01:29:57] I think ultimately like those

[01:29:59] decisions only matter

[01:30:01] like if you

[01:30:03] want a reason to not like that person

[01:30:05] if I trust Jag and

[01:30:07] Jag doesn't take me on a reward it doesn't matter

[01:30:09] to me. If I don't trust Jag it's just

[01:30:11] evidence of oh obviously I can't trust Jag.

[01:30:13] Well, you know Jag would have done Rock Paper Scissors too

[01:30:15] with everyone.

[01:30:17] I respected that move

[01:30:19] Rock Paper Scissors is a leap.

[01:30:21] I would have done Gummy Bears

[01:30:23] I would have done Gummy Bears are the way.

[01:30:25] Yeah for sure.

[01:30:27] Okay

[01:30:31] Big Brother panel

[01:30:33] any other thoughts that you wanted from

[01:30:35] the Big Brother perspective you want to share about

[01:30:37] Survivor 46?

[01:30:39] BB26 got a date

[01:30:41] announced. Yeah are you all excited?

[01:30:43] July baby July 17th

[01:30:45] and 18th. It'll be something.

[01:30:47] We need the night one feats though

[01:30:49] come on so much.

[01:30:51] No immediate eviction

[01:30:53] I hate that.

[01:30:55] Casting is so intense it sucks

[01:30:57] everyone there.

[01:30:59] I think July needs to bring some Twizzlers

[01:31:01] to the program. Yes could you imagine

[01:31:03] maybe to God 101

[01:31:05] started off with

[01:31:07] it's good to Twizzlers people. I was always curious

[01:31:09] if Survivor ever

[01:31:11] wanted Survivor

[01:31:13] live feats.

[01:31:15] Yes they want that.

[01:31:17] It's such a different view

[01:31:19] on these players that you see now.

[01:31:21] Wait just

[01:31:23] like you're laughing.

[01:31:25] If you think

[01:31:27] the Big Brother live feats get boring

[01:31:29] Survivor live feats is

[01:31:31] a lot of down time on Survivor

[01:31:33] you know

[01:31:35] I think Survivor is fine

[01:31:37] I don't know if you need the Survivor live feats

[01:31:41] You can't say that to Big Brother people.

[01:31:43] Let's just get to Big Brother Canada with live feats

[01:31:45] how about that?

[01:31:47] Alright

[01:31:49] Big Brother panel thank you so much

[01:31:51] stay right here

[01:31:53] Sam anything else

[01:31:55] ok

[01:31:57] I really

[01:31:59] mean it so much

[01:32:01] thank you what an incredible audience

[01:32:03] you've been here tonight

[01:32:05] I was really

[01:32:07] worried coming into tonight

[01:32:09] because this is the biggest crowd

[01:32:11] we've ever had and if the crowd

[01:32:13] does not cooperate

[01:32:15] that these shows can be really

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[01:32:19] talking and not

[01:32:21] paying attention but this crowd

[01:32:23] was so amazing so

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[01:32:30] and you know what

[01:32:32] Sam I'm consider I think we

[01:32:34] would come back to Chicago

[01:32:36] You guys do rock

[01:32:42] Ok

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[01:32:48] the second

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