

Purple Pants Podcast | Survivor News 50 Ep 9 Recap: Jack’s Beautiful Black Queens ft James Jones
The baby boys Wendell, Jack, and Brice are back this week with special guest James Jones from Survivor 43, breaking down Survivor Season 50 Episode 9. Jimmy Fallon’s twist throws the game into chaos as Jeff steps into the challenge, a high stakes journey puts one player in serious danger, and shifting alliances leave the vote up in the air until the very last second. From the rice negotiation to a brutal Tribal Council, Wendell, Jack, Brice, and James dive into the biggest moves of the night, who gained power, how this vote could reshape the game, and hand out this week’s Jimmy Fallon “One in the Urn” while unpacking all the side dish of chaos this episode served.
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[00:01:26] The baby boys have reunited. Wendell Jack and myself are back and we are joined by James Jones, the Survivor savant of Survivor Season 43. We are talking about this Jimmy Fallon twist. We're talking about Jeff stepping into the game. We're talking about who is the middle. Where is the middle? Where is the claw? What is happening? So much to break down in this episode.
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[00:02:25] Dot, dot, dot. What's up? What's up? We are back with your Survivor News covering Survivor Season 50, Episode 9, your favorite Survivor's favorite Survivor podcast. And we are joined by the man, the myth, the legend, Mr. Jack Atkins himself. You might know him from The Circle Season 2. Or more importantly, the floor is lava. Jack Atkins, welcome back. How are you feeling?
[00:02:54] I'm feeling good, man. I watched the episode this morning because I was busy last night. And I mean, always a treat to wake up and get to watch some Survivor. And I go online after. I see it's very, it's a little controversial. Controversial. And I've got my thoughts. So I'm just really excited to be here with a great, with you and a great guest. And be, and talk about it. Because it's just kind of where everyone's head is at. I'm stoked. Yeah, we got a lot to get into.
[00:03:21] And of course, we have to introduce, there hasn't been a podcast this season that this man's name has not been mentioned. If you ever come into the city of Philadelphia and you're looking for a good happy hour, you're looking for a good food spot. The creator of good vibes only. Let's welcome back to the podcast, Mr. James Jones. James Jones. Yo, thanks for having me, guys. Oh, man. The superstar has decided to grace us with his presence.
[00:03:51] Like, this is, like, we're thankful for your presence. You came in right at the right time, right when my introduction came. You know, I just appreciate you being here, Wendell. And, you know, your time to shine. It's good to see you, James Jones. Good to see you all. Well, the man. Well, now that we got JJ, because I just said, you know, there hasn't. Yes, JJ, this is his first time this season. But there hasn't been a podcast that his name has not been brought up.
[00:04:19] But let's also welcome back to the podcast. The first merge boot. The man that talks about people wearing cardigans. And then when you pull up to St. Louis, he wears a cardigan. The one and only when DZ Holland was popping with you. Oh, B. It's good to be here. Sorry, I'm outside of a coffee shop. I'm trying to link to the Wi-Fi and my phone. It's been a long day.
[00:04:49] But I got my matcha, so we're here. Oh, yeah. Is that Riz God behind you? I'm Jack. I'm not doing this with you this episode. Oh, good thing. Just a haircut. Just a haircut. Okay. I'm on for the Riz God. Well, listen, we got a lot to get into with this episode. But before we get into the episode, what is it? Is it a pre-disclosure or a disclosure?
[00:05:20] A disclosure. Disclosure. Disclosure before we get this episode. The baby boy. I'll say baby boys. Wendell and I. I'm running off of 45 minutes of sleep. I don't know how long Wendell's working off of sleep. We just left St. Louis. The event was amazing. I tried to go to my hotel to go to sleep.
[00:05:44] Wendell wanted to stay up all night talking with people in the hotel. And so, you know, we had to leave to head to the airport. But we were in St. Louis last night. Shout out to everyone that was in St. Louis. Jeff and Pops. Sifu. Tasha Fox. Scott and Lori. So many amazing people. So many Squid Games. But also, a huge shout out to San Francisco.
[00:06:13] Our event last night in San Francisco. The Bryce and Wend's biggest event this season yet with the man, the myth, Ozzy. So if you were in San Francisco, you know you were in for a treat. The tour continues. We are on the road to 50. We are headed to Washington, D.C. next week. So please get your tickets. And Ozzy is headed to Pittsburgh next week, April 29th.
[00:06:42] Get your tickets as well. So Pittsburgh, Washington, D.C. You are put on notice because last week we didn't mention a city and the way the comments was coming in to my DMs. Talk about y'all still coming to St. Louis. I didn't hear y'all talk about it. So I want to make sure that we say we were where we are going. Also, we've got Austin in Chicago lined up on deck as well as the finale in New York City as well as the karaoke, reality karaoke.
[00:07:12] Also, Gabe's finale in Baltimore. So listen, as it's sad to say this, but as the tour or the road to 50 winds down, as we can see the light at the end of the tunnel, don't miss out on what has been such a spectacular event. Wendell Jack texted me the other day. Chicago, you're put on notice. You looking for the baby boy.
[00:07:38] He may or may not pull up, but that's my plight. Price to win 50 tickets below. Click the link in this bio. And oh, I need to know what the baby boys are feeling like for this episode nine. Okay, Jack, you want me to go? Okay, sure. I thought it was a mid. I said it. I mean, mid in what way?
[00:08:08] I mean, I felt like from the start of the episode, we kind of knew where potentially the votes were going. And if you watch Survivor News, our pre-assessment on this season, Jack Atkins had Mr. Christian Hubicki as his winner pick. And I was like, I don't know about that, Jack. However, I'm being honest this season.
[00:08:36] By episode three, I said, damn it, Jack. Jack's going to win. Jack is going to win because Christian Hubicki has been doing his thing. And so I just felt like the target was on his back. The saxophones were playing all episode. And I don't know, I just, I thought it was mid. I mean, way better than Zach Brown, but I don't know. But listen, that's my take, Jack. Tell us, what's up?
[00:09:09] So, you know, I love some Christian Hubicki. One of my all-time favorites. But, you know, despite the fact that he went home, I still really enjoyed the episode. I thought Jeff's participation at the challenge, I actually thought it was really fun. I thought the journey was really fun, just like, you know, as the journey itself. And then the whole controversy comes in with this twist.
[00:09:37] And I go on Reddit after I watch and everyone's like up in arms about Christian was robbed. Christian was screwed over. And my hot take is now, I think there was a, I got one thing that I think they did him a little dirty. But my hot take is I don't really think he was like screwed over. I don't really think anything. The only thing I didn't like was that he had to tell the whole trade, like read the notes of the whole tribe. But I don't think it was unfair that he had to like vote for himself.
[00:10:03] And there was a, everyone was like so up in arms about it saying it was like the least fair thing ever. Now, I totally understand Christian being upset because, yeah, it's an annoying position to be in. But we can dive more into it. But it's like, you know, I've sort of flipped now over to your side on this debate, Bryce, where it's Survivor 50. You've seen the things they've been throwing out there in the unexpected nature of the game.
[00:10:28] So when you volunteer for a journey, you can't really be surprised when maybe the outcome is a little bit unfair. It's kind of what you sign up for. And also, hot take. Now, Christian is one of the smartest people to ever play Survivor. But, you know, I saw a lot of people weighing like the risk versus the reward of this challenge was not equal. But I also think it was a challenge that was designed to be won a good majority of the time.
[00:10:57] Like, I don't think it was that, you know, minus all of the pressure and stuff that I think is what caused Christian to fail. I don't think it was that difficult of a challenge. I think most of the time he wins and we're not even having this debate about like how unfair it was. So that's kind of my, again, I think the biggest faux pas was him having to like tell everyone on the tribe that he now has to vote for himself. I think that was kind of messed up because we, you know, I'm all about like the precedents that have been set.
[00:11:26] And that usually you go on a journey, you can lie about whatever happens. But I don't think him having to vote for himself was that bad of a punishment given the circumstances. And I'll add real quick, I'll add, again, I love Christian. We could go back to some of his earlier moves this season. I don't think he was playing the best game. So this was him going home was not all because of this twist. And I'm sad he went home.
[00:11:51] But like, you know, when you go to Sari and target her number one, it's not the twist fault. That was sloppy. That was sloppy. I mean, at the end of the day, I love Christian Hibiki. That's my guy. He works at FAMU FSU College Engineering. Shout out to the Rattlers. Shout out to the Knowles. I'm a Rattler. I would like to say. You didn't go to Drexel? First off, I'm a great liar.
[00:12:20] Like it's amazing how good I can lie. But what I will say is, I do not. I think when you volunteer to go on a journey, you volunteer for the worst possible things and the best possible things to happen to you. And I think this is indicative of the position that he was in. I will say, Bryce, that I thought this was one of the more entertaining episodes of the season for me watching Survivor from a strategy point of view. Why?
[00:12:47] Because you get to see Sari work her social magic. You also see, I taught this guy up enough, but I want to say Rizzo and Sari play a very similar game from a communication standpoint. And I figured that they would be great. Like when you watch this show now, and I know half the people on the island now, and like you kind of can see where people kind of come from. And what you're seeing here is, I think this is brilliant, is there's one group that keeps saying there's the other side.
[00:13:17] Who do y'all think is feeding them the other side? Like you have to read between the lines there. Like think of like, oh, those people are so stupid on that side. No, people are out there actively giving them the other, that there is another side. There is people that are attacking them on the other side, appealing to them. And that's how you get Jonathan on your side after taking out Coach and Chrissy. And they're not even worried about you. Why? Because there's another side.
[00:13:47] It's a brilliant survivor play. And we're going to get into it. But also, Sari just putting out those little nuggets for the next vote to keep herself safe. Like this is like you take out your one target. Now a new target pops up. But that's great because you get consistency around a new target. So now your old target can go. It's just this brilliant game of survivor that's going on that I enjoy watching. And I just hope you are too. Sorry, Bryce. But when you rewatch and dig into those looks and cranes, you're going to be like, woo.
[00:14:17] No, I hear you. I think, again, we're all over the place. So that's where we just want to go. One thing that stood out for me the most was that like Sari feels. And so y'all know I could harp on Sari all day, every day. It is. I think it was at one point in time when Sari was in a confessional and she was talking about her position. And I think it was when she was talking with Joe and Ozzy.
[00:14:46] And Sari states, hey, my core is Rizzo and Ozzy. However, I'm also working with the cloth. And I'm also working with Joe and Aubrey and Tiffany. Right. And it's just like, well, damn, who else is there left? Right. And so it's like, again, it just Sari is in the best position that I think.
[00:15:15] But I also think that this episode for me, I think last week, Jack, when we were talking, JJ, I'm not sure if you listened. We we talked about everyone kept saying the middle, the middle, the middle. Who is the middle? I feel like this episode. And again, I'm loving the edit because if you are following the edit as to what they're putting down, they put these questions out. And then I feel like, Jack, they revealed them because I felt like this episode.
[00:15:43] They really revealed to us who actually is the middle. And in my opinion, it's Tiffany and Aubrey are the middle. And again, we kind of we don't see this episode where Tiffany goes, but we kind of also see Aubrey say, listen, Tom's is getting tough.
[00:16:03] In my opinion, Aubrey was like, you know, if I was a mother and I had kids and I got laid off from my job and I have no way to make income. But I know I got this body. And so I felt like I felt like I've just felt like, you know, sometimes you got to use what you got to get what you want. And so we see that Aubrey is like, listen.
[00:16:32] My skin might match, but Aubrey like I ain't a part of the cloth, but I'm gonna go with the cloth and I'm not mad. And so I just I feel like there was so much that we just got revealed this episode. Oh, a lot of brilliant stuff going on. Welcome back, Wendell. Welcome back, my guy. I mean, are we going to go through the episode? Because I don't want to talk too much. I want to kind of dig into it. There's so much good stuff going on this episode. I was like one of my favorites.
[00:16:59] Like, it's not like exciting, razzle dazzle, but like the actual survivor gameplay, because because the kind of sides have been a mystery. Like so many people like who's with who, who is Tiffany friends with? Why were everybody afraid to put her name down? Great social game, Tiffany, by the way. Just like being able to be a backup vote and then not a vote again. That's just magnifique. Just great gameplay, great social game. Just highlight that, by the way. But it's so much good stuff happening in this episode that I'm loving.
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[00:18:29] Do you feel like you thought that because you thought the twist? Because you didn't like the twist? Or you thought it was unfair? Or was it just other factors for you? Wendy Z, what's your thought? I think I didn't. A couple things. One, I didn't love that it was Christian that got the brunt of this twist. Two, I thought that it was an unfair, balanced twist. I think, Jack, like you said with the puzzle. When I'm looking at it, I'm like, man, I'm good at jigsaw puzzles. I feel like I should be able to do it in that amount of time. Christian didn't do it.
[00:18:58] But the risk versus reward, again, it's like, not only do you have to vote for yourself, which is crazy to me, you have to announce it. So you can't even find a way to maneuver when you get back. So I just think that that was a... And yes, it is season 50. And we've seen like the blood moon. And we've seen double boots and all that stuff. I just think that it's... I think it was too much of a punishment for this journey. So not a big fan of it.
[00:19:27] Wait, so I guess my take is... At the start of the season, y'all say it's in the hands of the fans. And every episode, we've been saying the hands of the fans are Jeff. And we clearly see that because in this season, we see that Jeff is a rapper. Jeff is a haikuist. And now Jeff is... Jeff want to be an episode. Challenge. Put Jeff on the challenge next season. Because at this point, we know Jeff wants to play.
[00:19:57] But when Jeff brought in the twist of... And I went on the Jimmy Fallon show and... Roll the clip, Jeff. Where is the clip of that episode? And now, is it in the hands of the fans? Or is it in the hands of a poll of Jimmy Fallon? And so I'm with the people on Reddit where it's like, I'm not mad at Jimmy Fallon. I get... I like the twist. Y'all right?
[00:20:21] Well, Bryce, who knows Survivor better than the seat fillers at Jimmy Fallon's Tonight Show? Because I'm trying to figure that out. Because again, now it's in the hands of Jeff. Now it's in the hands of the fans. And now, if you happen to be on Hollywood Boulevard on a Thursday night at 6 o'clock, and you want a piece of pizza and 75 cents,
[00:20:48] now you can weigh in on my favorite show in the world. However, I'm not mad at the twist. I also felt like the last time we saw Sari play, went out in an unprecedented way of... She went out with no one voting for her. And so again, with a legendary season, I like the fact... I don't like the fact, but I did think it was so interesting that Christian went out in his hands, right? He had to vote for himself. So like, I didn't love it.
[00:21:17] And right, go on a reward. It's either going to help you or hurt you. Like, we've seen this challenge before. So it hurt my heart. But again, I'm loving this season because even when somebody goes that I don't want to go, I want it to hurt. Well, Bryce, I did see... I think I did see that Jimmy Fallon episode with Jeff. And... Did you? I mean, they completely... You were there? No, no. I watched it on... I watched it on... I've watched the clip.
[00:21:47] I think what happened was... I think Jimmy was like... Jeff, I've always said this, Jeff. I think that you should play... You should play sometime. And then he was like, what do you guys think? And the audience was like, whoo! And then Jeff was like, I gotta do... I gotta do one of these challenges. So kind of misconstrued... I... I kind of liked it, though. Like... No, wait. It saw like a different side of Jeff that was like really loose and like just fun. But also...
[00:22:16] It was cool to see him compete. Yes. It was cool to see him compete. It was different. The biggest thing of the episode was Bryce Isaiah had a cameo. Nobody want to talk about that? When they... When Jeff is doing a challenge and he is like, I deserve it. They start showing clips of Jeff going off. Yeah. And... If you... Slow...
[00:22:49] Just get on Wendell's home internet and watch it. Okay? And there was the Luzon tribe doing our first tribe. And if you... Slow... And if you... Zoom... In... And pan to the left... You can see my hand.
[00:23:20] I did enjoy Jeff participating. I did enjoy seeing him being like... Jeff having an oh shit moment. Like... Oh... This is hard. I mean... I don't know why Jeff... I don't know how much water was in Jeff's thing either. You know? Like I mean... Who knows if he... Like... I feel like it would have been better if we just found out there was no water there and he really didn't want them to have rice. I feel like that would have been like...
[00:23:48] Like a super villain turn just to kind of just keep it moving this year. But... I thought it was cool he competed. Um... Yeah, this... I'm just not a big fan of these endurance challenges. Like I feel like I want to get to challenges where people are like drawing lines and kind of making statements about other people. Like... Like I like the lying game ones where you're like oh who's selling the lie? Like get... Like get them interacting with each other and like drawing lines. Like I... Like this was holding...
[00:24:18] I'm tired of seeing feet and hands. Like feet and hands. Feet and hands. Feet and hands. Sorry. I'm tired of it. Sorry. Just me. Well the good... The good challenges I mean we're a decade past some of those but I do agree a good touchy show. And Bryce as much as I liked watching Jeff I do agree with the sentiment that when you talk about the hands of the fans and then you're like well the fans that Jimmy... My good friend Jimmy Fallon asked a targeted question to said that I should play Survivor sometimes so then I was like oh maybe I'll do the challenge to make you guys earn rice.
[00:24:47] It's like you guys decided this. No. Not to mention he went down the four. He went down the four so quickly. Like it was... It was like... He was like... Like they could have got him for two. Like I feel like literally they should have just kept on going. Like that would have been the battle. Like yeah. That's a good point because what if they were like nah Jeff and he was like so I can't play and they were like yeah. It's like no we want immunity Jeff. Like we need two immunities or something. We need three immunities Jeff. What's going on? We don't care about that.
[00:25:18] Regardless. Bryce I agree with you so much on on that sentiment that I might have to... Ah! Jeff stop playing! I might have to take out my Bryce Isaiah shirt. Stop playing! Come on. Where are these shirts coming from? Like here's the thing. Stop! Like Bryce is going to name it like this. Survivor immunity t-shirts for hooking it up with the fresh and crispy oh wait! And we got the window home!
[00:25:47] What is going on here? That's a dooper! Yeah! See I knew something was going on when we started the podcast and Jack was on time ready to go screen looking clear looked like he took a shower it was in the like that's every podcast what do you mean? I'm screaming okay W in the chat
[00:26:17] for Jack but I'm going to save this for when Wendell says something so I'm going back to the rest of the day and put my shirt back on it's only because of the wifi that's just because I'm hooked up to my phone that's all you sound fine Wendell do I sound fine? how do I look? how do I look? you look good a mess but you sound fine but also just because you're in a restaurant just keep it on mute until you want to say something but if you really zoom in you might be able to see a Wendell
[00:26:47] hand kind of sneaking out much like Bryce in the episode but no but Wendell you look and sound fine minus the you know the being in the coffee shop but there's no lag or anything great well I just got my matcha so you said that at the beginning Wendell I got a new a second one this second matcha did Wendell's hand I also think since we're
[00:27:16] just jumping around right and I've been again shout out to the people in St. Louis they was asking where Jack was okay they were I had plenty of people there was a posse member that said she had been going through postpartum depression and she said something that has been getting her through is Jack not knowing the names of the songs so while some of y'all don't like it that's what I do it for I do it for the moms out there Jack
[00:27:46] is doing it for the moms for me I I think and I've been team Aubrey all day right like I it's her fourth time playing and I think this was a pivotal move for Aubrey right again we haven't been seeing Aubrey get any type of leverage in this game she's kind of been playing with her back against the wall she had an idol they tell her to play the idol she said I
[00:28:30] talked Jonathan in the hammock and it's like I'm like okay Aubrey get in where you fit in she was explaining to Jonathan like hey they been saying I've been connected to Rick Devons because we
[00:29:00] at I think Aubrey is in one of those good positions where she is very much good with everybody but also within her alliance she has bigger targets in front of her
[00:29:30] being Rick and probably Emily I think that's the best place to be in the game is to have targets in front of you in your alliance is the reason why Jonathan went home instead of coach why Chrissy was more threatening than Stephanie when you have that person that for some reason is definitely going to be targeted before you it gives you a little more room you don't take the brunt of being the decision maker of your alliance so Aubrey has a nice autonomy to you know
[00:30:00] she has luxury of being a number so when you look at a position where they kind of are in the middle of the group but there's a big middle I think there's about seven people and
[00:30:42] it have options so it could be a situation now where people aren't really seeing her as a big threat next to a Rick or a Christian or even an Emily who's a little bit more like just vocal about things and then she's also got these connections with Sari she goes and makes a connection with Jonathan so it could be a spot where maybe she's
[00:31:12] off people's radar now and she Joe isn't going to go anywhere like literally Joe two straight immunities right so you always have that kind of just looming over like and that's huge JJ right like he just won two back to back immunities he didn't sweat that last one you saw him his little lean off pose you saw that I saw the one
[00:31:40] I saw the fire holes at that point I'm like enough Bryce I mean but Joe also is one of those great people you may keep around to say let Joe win the immunity so I can vote off of our one vote off because Joe isn't going to win the game like so I mean if the Lions members are in the jury has a chance but it's like it's kind of one of those things where it's like the most dangerous players now are like the Aubrey who's going to target Aubrey over the other players there and
[00:32:10] if she can stay in that position she has a good path to that the question is how can she navigate that path and have a winning narrative so the players that don't get targeted typically okay you're not a threat so how does she navigate that part of it as she moves towards that let me tell you how she navigate go ahead Wendell no I was just saying I'm starting to look at all the players that are not the legacy players and players that can sit next to each other to where y'all are
[00:32:40] kind of similarly situated I I feel like people want to sit next to Emily I feel like despite us seeing a really good edit from Rizzo people want to sit next to Rizzo and I think yeah I just think that there's a handful of people that do you what do you think I
[00:33:19] even a Jonathan even a Jonathan even a Joe like yeah they are they look like big targets and yeah Joe just won two of them but like really there were two people in front of them on their own alliance that were bigger like Chrissy the brain and coach the person that got a lot of screen time and did a lot of haikus you know what I'm saying like out of their own alliance people were bigger targets than that yeah the way I'm looking at it now after this episode right like
[00:33:50] Joe and Jonathan in my opinion they're the same person right like I feel like they like if they were to go to the end they would gather the same votes right and so it's like I almost knocked them out of it because and now I'm looking at the people like Aubrey like you said JJ it's like Aubrey or Tiffany navigate to the end like the dragon slayer couple of episodes ago when they lost the member of the dark
[00:34:19] horses they they came and got Rizzo and said hey listen we need you in it and now with Aubrey locking in with Jonathan with Christian gone what's Rick Devin going to be doing now right he's going to be a target but he's also going to be looking for number one and now that's if Aubrey can't slide in there Tiff can slide in there now and now their positions start do you want to be Rick's number two when
[00:35:06] before Emily starts spilling the beans to everybody letting them know it's fake very self interested player what are y'all thoughts on this right and this is where I want to give Stephanie and I
[00:35:36] her Instagram story and she wrote I knew it was fake she finished all of her sentences she said I knew it was fake I didn't want to give any push back and I wanted to go with the
[00:36:06] that and so for me it makes me feel like they purposely did not target cousin Ricky because Christian was a bigger threat and they know he doesn't have an idol and so I gotta give it to the cloth because I feel like the cloth is about to do a two for one where it's like they act like Rick's idol is real they get rid of his closest ally and then next
[00:36:36] week Rick they'll allow him to pretend like he had like he could use the idol and they'll snipe him and so like I'm just saying like I feel like the cloth might be working yeah but I mean yeah I look I think Christian I knew that it's like
[00:37:06] I mean you see it happen in the circle for instance where someone gets voted out and everyone's like oh hey I'm not actually Emily I'm Jack and everyone's like I knew they were a cat and maybe I'm a bad example because I kind of blew it but I knew it I knew it I knew it it's like you you can admit you didn't know it um can I throw a question out Jack Kenny all right here's my
[00:37:36] question um going back to last week Rick's move finding this fake idol what did oh he said do it again and Joe said all right sorry go ahead but I'm just that that was a hilarious moment
[00:38:06] but I'm just saying like now looking at this like bro your theatrics got your right hand out of there and it might have put such a target on you that you're out of there next do we think that was a good move do we think you should have saved that move I wall for that kind of group the Emily Rick and Christian group kind of that they're
[00:38:35] operating kind of together and kind of about it's clear Tiffany isn't aligned with Emily right so like who like so Survivor always shows you somebody that's trying to make a every time but like an opportunity to kind of move votes like they always have
[00:39:05] someone that's a red herring in the episode who isn't necessarily connected but is trying to make things happen and I relationship on the other side right and on from the you know from that line side I don't know if
[00:39:35] any one of those three people have a relationship with anybody over there in the cloth or like you know and you add Tiffany that's four people that you don't have relationships with that you just as a negative starting base which is easy for someone like Sari to work with because you know three and Rizzo are in the middle right there so you have six it's a numbers game right there so you have four against you with six and Ozzy that's seven they have a built in seven as long as they one
[00:40:05] right you know so that's kind of and that seven Aubrey fits it right in there that's eight Aubrey makes that clause four four four that's what's really happening in the game right now but you know I think another person we are missing out of this conversation is Ozzy and we've talked heavily on this season and podcast about Ozzy being like whatever Sari says oh that was a good move but I also think Christian
[00:40:34] going out he made a huge blunder and the blunder in my opinion wasn't the puzzle the blunder was as smart as Christian was for him to go to Sari and say Ozzy's name it for me illuminates oh well Christian Sari and Ozzy they're not that tight right because like he clearly does why would you ever say Ozzy
[00:41:04] name to me okay I seen him naked why don't say that to me but what I'm saying is is that I think the person that you know I've been jokey jokey with I've been laying up in the bed with I didn't you know pillow talk with I didn't child flipped it up and down okay but what I'm saying is I think Oscar and again
[00:41:34] Christian going out and being like it's Oscar and then when you do look you continuously see anytime the cloth is meeting Oscar pulls right on the res guy we see Oscar with Emily we see Oscar with Sari and I'm like now wait a minute is my man about to
[00:42:21] he need a little more than that I can't say too bad flip it and reverse sit what I think is first of all Ozzy is playing better than he's been playing like he is he's talking to everybody and he's diminishing he's lowering his threat but also what I
[00:42:51] extract from that is maybe his relationship with Sari isn't as visible on the island as we see it and or maybe they're hiding it a little better and him going and getting in with the cloth and these other people and continuing to talk to other people make them feel like he's really better with them and not as
[00:43:21] out so like again credit to Ozzy's social game this season and yeah your man is doing well but wait Jack is it worth it let me work it I put my thing down I know
[00:43:55] I've heard the song many many a time artist can I get a multiple choice I'll get it right but I just gotta okay we'll give you a multiple choice I have a guess off top or we could give you another song I can't stand the rain that was a hint right there
[00:44:26] that was a big hint this is a different artist not for Jack it's not a big hint for Jack Jack do you because it doesn't it doesn't matter crispy chicken and lettuce fresh chicken fresh lettuce what is that the subway anthem wrapped up in a bun no Jack it's good as you don't know this you don't even need to know this one but that's hilarious
[00:44:56] that you brought that up can I throw my shot can I give my shot in the dark to you Bryce give it here is it Missy Elliot Jack now mind you you was looking at you are watching on YouTube please yeah but yes okay I I've heard that song so many times I could like picture like
[00:45:26] the vibe of the person and I was I was just like I think it's like I knew it was like a beautiful black queen but a little bit after the time it was a little bit after I think the time of like some of our usual ones you know that's a little more modern Sasha because she also did like the what you know about what
[00:45:56] you what you know about I said my lit boss is cool bitch that's little mama Jack Wendell Wendell Wendell Wendell Wendell Wendell Wendell Wendell Wendell Wendell Wendell Wendell Wendell Wendell the Oscar Kalani is the voice on my Waze app oh
[00:46:25] that's wild you know folded yeah say say a lot I'm trying to say so don't pick up Jack what black girl is you laying up with Kalani is modern I know like modern
[00:46:54] music I just don't know the stuff from when you guys were kids keep it cute JJ and Wendell are twice my age but Oscar he doing his thing I flip it around and reverse it Ozzy has the luxury also being able to play a power game he's not known for his strategy he's not but
[00:47:24] he doesn't have to be this whole thing about Survivor I think this is the new era the reddit era love y'all to death truth be told but Survivor really is
[00:47:54] forget Ozzy ain't one to be played with in immunity so in the words of James Jones I don't have to say it because he's here it lowers your what James your threat level but also the thing about it is too if Ozzy goes home who's going to be Joe and John in these challenges the Riz guy first of all first of all first of all time out but
[00:48:24] did Jeff beat the Riz guy yeah back to back back back back back you know I'm saying I get it you know but it's like so but he's also got his starting weight after 49 which probably would have been pretty low too because Riz got what 150 160 so like 120 max but realistically like who's winning challenges outside
[00:48:54] of Joe and Jonathan like Ozzy goes home right if you're not on Joe and Jonathan and Stephanie side are you winning challenges well let's first of are a Jonathan Joe special but when they gotta use their mind I
[00:49:25] mean I just saw Christian kind of not pull through in a puzzle challenge love my guy to death I just think we're talking about this we need somebody to beat them in the physical challenge if you don't have anybody physical you may just be signing the trip for them to go take a deep run so you had to keep Ozzy in this game I don't think he's going home until Jonathan and Joe and coach going home was probably better for the best for Ozzy out of anybody because that
[00:49:55] frees up all of wanted to go after Rick but they went after Christian and so what I'm scared is if they want to take a shot at Ozzy the real person they will be
[00:50:42] put the seed out there right I'm willing to go this way so she kind of threw a name out there in the group built a consensus enough you have Tiffany that's willing to do that has strength to go XYZ like so you're kind of
[00:51:12] you have room to play the game within those relationships you know and depending on how much people in the clock are willing to play so you don't know how these votes are going to go but what you do know is Sari is laying a very equitable path where you get to the next two votes and that path is Rick Devons and Emily Flippin if you have confidence in yourself as survivor player if everybody else there does if I can get through the next two votes with this cast of characters around me I feel
[00:51:42] like you know I about Rick and his idol when did Wendell talk this was off air it
[00:52:13] is a good question and look I think it's an interesting conundrum in Rick's shoes of or do I hope the numbers work out and my target
[00:52:43] level is still a little bit lower but you could go out without taking that swing so that's why I lean towards if you have the heat and this is why I love Rick as a player he's going to take the shot even if it's not the best for his game he's going to go for it and deal with the repercussions later if Rick doesn't go for the idol what stops Christian from going for the idol this go round people more likely believe
[00:53:13] Christian in the sense that I went on this I went on the journey I lost my vote but also got a clue to I don't know if Christian would even be
[00:53:43] that idol I think that Christian participated in the idol to help his alliance and to hopefully benefit from Rick doing that I
[00:54:13] sort of embodied this of how almost offended some people were about how Rick went and got the idol he was so flashy about it he got the idol and saved himself this is Survivor 50 what do you expect him to do Joe was having this whole debate Joe from what other shit aside it's like he
[00:54:43] was rubbing it in Joe was like I wasn't voting for him he had to do it everyone is so up in arms about the fact he has a little bit of flair to his game it's like are you watching the show don't you want Survivor to give us the receipts now wouldn't that wouldn't it be receipts but do we
[00:55:13] need the receipts we don't need the receipts Joe said on principle I can't vote for coach okay so you didn't want to vote for coach or Chrissy who else were you and for me it's like
[00:55:43] he proved y'all point y'all are mad he played y'all and that was my other like issue with the episode of like Jonathan Stephanie and Joe of being like you ain't even tell us bitch is Survivor 50 yes I'm going to keep something yeah look at their archetypes though the archetype of players are not like the players like they aren't the like
[00:56:12] you vote me out or you lie to me and we're still kiki and afterwards like I respect part of that like
[00:56:42] I just want to let you know in advance it's not real feel free to vote for me I won't be mad but I think you're like Sari right now with Joe go ahead with DC I just think that I think Rick could have been smoother with it because when you do the theatrics and like we said
[00:57:12] he made a beeline to it tossed a couple rocks picked that thing up and he was poking his chest out and everything and if I compare this to like a Tony and winners at war Tony the whole first like whatever to everyone nose down humble huh that's the only time you saw Tony what's craziest Bryce you played on his season on his first season you never saw him that's the craziest
[00:57:42] part that's true now you saw him at that challenge where he was on the screen I met him at the reunion but what I'm saying is and like when you have it everyone knows what Rick Devens does when you have it in you sometimes you gotta change you you everything about you to pull this thing off to keep this thing moving so in his case yo don't don't say it with all the bravado say like
[00:58:12] he got to but he gotta scare those fools you gotta deal with the blow you you you scare them even more by humbly like I think it's I think it's finding that thing and sitting with it I pushing back y'all posse I know Wendell is talking but
[00:58:47] I he a little I handled it relatively well this is what I will relate it to I relate it to me as a gay man if I speak up on something and I be like Jack why did you do that I didn't like that or something and then they'll be like oh Bryce was
[00:59:20] that girl like that that's how like I I don't I view it differently I see where you're coming from right I think a lot of times in Survivor when you exude confidence at a time when people are not confident it's not about it ain't about you it's really about the situation when people feel a certain type of way and what we like to do as people that watch the game is you you can't feel that way in Survivor but in Survivor people
[00:59:49] feel people are so you have to manage as much as you you need to manage the people how they you can't assume everybody else is going to see things where you see the things so me going on the show I can come off real cocky I can think I'm not cocky but I can come off that way y'all know me I'm chilling we saw you during that block challenge we saw you during that block the one I won the one almost won did
[01:00:19] you win it or almost win it I finished my portion in record time it wasn't an individual immunity I don't look at things that way when it you can't refer to that as the one you won yo man yo we all yo I can win that challenge yo like here's the deal people make up he hasn't slayed one dragon
[01:00:49] but he goes with the dragon slayer like in the Amazon you don't know what happened ain't no ain't no J'akara it's nothing happening so if I say I won that box challenge where we whooped everybody's butt before that little pole thingy you know I would I hear you though Bryce it's sort of like Rick's reputation precedes him and people are like putting that on him I do I do think though like knowing Rick it wasn't he could have even amped up the theatrics more
[01:01:18] but I also hear what Wendell's saying of you know you could you could just he like puts on a show you could not say shit you go move the rock you grab it let me ask you this if Rick Devins during that tribal y'all was like and Jeff was like and so what do you think Rick and Rick was like and y'all know Rick Devins what what what what what
[01:01:49] I I think I didn't I didn't have the opportunity to go get the idol no I'm you be like you put it together like and that's what he did look at it and look at look at his first season he can go look at when when
[01:02:19] Ron Clark tried to do embarrass like Rick can get some bravado and talk his talk and if my memory serves me sometimes you gotta do sometimes you just gotta grab it okay Bryce I'm just saying I'm not saying like I'm not saying not say anything at all I'm just saying like yo
[01:02:49] just tone it like tone it down no matter what he does he's gonna like those three people it's gonna like like like those like no matter depending on how the game circumstances is going the game you wanna play how you're playing no matter what I did or whatever Rick does no matter what he did if he got the idol and did nothing it's just still the people that were mad at him were going to be mad at him from a tribe standpoint if they're
[01:03:19] talking about it and you're talking to Joe and Joe opening up you're going ki-ki-ki-ki that is survivor 101 you're not gonna be like I ain't feel that type of way you going do what people they may have some more bravado and then Christian and Emily may feel some way because Joe and coach and them are walking around camp that's just
[01:04:08] working together and because of whatever y'all say of cousin Ricky's bravado was a little too much hear me out his bravado getting rid of his closest ally of him playing them working together how much does it really hurt cousins Ricky game if Ricky can maybe survive another vote and him
[01:04:37] potentially getting rid of the person that he was working with thus far and if they would have got to the end together like Christian would have
[01:05:11] so all right I just think Bryce it makes him a bigger threat and it puts him in front even more so glaring in front of other people that should be like why is Ozzy still in the game like it
[01:05:41] all all all people that are the legends I'm not trying to have them get anywhere near the end so we're getting them out of here Sari is making her way like why is Rick a bigger threat than Sari right now and that's what I'm saying if he could survive another vote all of those things that you just said still exist and we have Emily flipping that stay flipping we like there are
[01:06:27] I said respectfully Rick Devins isn't you and this isn't winners at war and where Rick Devins currently is you are looking from the outside and can't get in because you are watching the try you remember his first season we're not talking about that he's a good friend of mine that's not the way to look at it look I think I agree with Wendell but I also I'm going to take
[01:06:57] I don't know if this is some JJ side this might be from the school of James Jones of I think you compare the threat perception with the threat reality and at some point when someone like a Rick is perceived as a huge threat in actuality they're not really a
[01:07:27] threat in reality they no longer are that big of a threat because if everyone's looking at them as a threat it's like well then we can get them out whatever so that's not the actual threat the threat of the people that are a little bit sneakier a little bit subtler now it's more of like
[01:07:56] someone like a Christian who is currently perceived as a middle to higher level threat and everyone's like okay he's not the top threat but he's a little bit below that that's the prime target in like a Rick if you position yourself as
[01:08:26] the quote unquote biggest threat people now might like you said Bryce have this mindset of like we can get Rick out another time you know there's other threats that are less obvious that we need to address and again I with 11 people left
[01:08:56] it's a lot more difficult to maneuver than if you have like six people left yeah I mean I think what this season is I was interested in the season before is that it's like threat level is what people perceive when the highland is not what we are viewing or like what players reputations are right at the end of the day it's like how players view each other is way different than how the fans view it but also just from the actual game I equated to like
[01:09:26] survivor players look at these survivor players as regular people like when they take their fan caps off when they go hit the beach I mean Rizzo has voted out coach he from a threat level because he's younger because he's not perceived as someone that is
[01:09:56] threatening but we know he can make any type of move in the game and cut anybody off at any time right and you can't say that about certain people who refuse to write other people's names down in their alliance so at the same time how people on the beach are framing a threat is interesting Emily flipping threat but think about that that aligns with the cloths who are we're on our we are honor and integrity oh Emily's a flipper we can get her out Rick is a
[01:10:26] flipper we can get her like framing the argument versus the enemy right to keep them in the war of narrative Sheree is winning it right now I have a question but were you going to say something Wendell no my question is let's talk about Jonathan for a second
[01:10:57] how many times have we heard his how many times have we heard his name come up and again with Joe winning and Jonathan available for the vote and I don't know if is it just us as viewers where it's like Jonathan is Jonathan is the cloth me as a viewer I'm thinking
[01:11:27] Christian is like are those three votes targeting you Bryce say that again are those three votes targeting you but that's what they're thinking on the island right so those votes are blocked right but yeah but if we because here's my thing I think where Christian went wrong was saying Ozzy's name I want to know if Christian said Jonathan's name whose voting block is stronger Christian
[01:11:57] voting block or John is voting block I'm asking that question we could I think Rick Devons could have got on that I think Ozzy could have got on that the question was answered people were asked do you want to play with Nikola Stephanie Jonathan and Joe where you know exactly where they're going to be at or do you want to play with Christian Rick Emily and quasi Aubrey in the ethos of the tribe had spoken who they
[01:12:27] wanted to play with that's what the vote last week was well I think it's a valid question from Bryce I think you're generally on the nose about it James of I now
[01:12:57] you've sort of cut the cloth down at the knees a little bit so people are like okay we know what Jonathan and Joe and stuff we kind of know where they're at we probably next week turn to like what's going on like people at somewhere are going on with Suri Ozzy and Rizzo Joe
[01:13:28] and Devin have beef you keep that's like brilliant yeah if they sufficiently cut down like say they get Rick out next week say
[01:13:58] Emily's next week then they might be like okay well we kind of know where Rick's at now maybe we go for Joe or Jonathan because now that's a three you know but again maybe I'm an old school player but I remember the days when we would target the physical threats so they can't go on these immunity runs to the end and respectfully Bryce you're from a different era I'm from Jack's era I mean
[01:14:28] no one cares about immunities anymore but you should look at Rizzo but I'm not but Rizzo is my point though like we're not looking at Rizzo to win but in this type of situation but when you have the cloth that can a lot of the reason why the cloth can stay the cloth is because they have someone in the cloth that can win the immunity to take the pressure off of them let me talk to you real quick Bryce you're looking at the cloth
[01:14:58] like we were looking at Joe and Eva last year right like yes they're a strong tight trio that's very much great no one on that island that's playing the game cares like literally they are a group of three a group of eight that at any point logical players being any combination of those players have a majority of eight will vote those three out the game no matter what
[01:15:38] really care if they win the challenges would you though with look at the jewelry yes like the cloth is on the jewelry too I
[01:16:10] now I'm not when I'm looking if I'm in their shoes and I'm looking at right now I'm not then thinking about well if Joe does get to the end how would he have had to get there I'm just thinking about right now Jonathan is more of a threat to win than Joe Joe has more beef with
[01:16:40] Jonathan again I think he's playing a better game than people give him credit for but I think a lot of these people are probably thinking like once he loses around like six or whatever everyone's gonna know we gotta get Jonathan out and that's we always say that and then we know it never happens that we can't do that well you sometimes bro we we saw we saw Joe in his season he won a bunch of challenges he got to the end he didn't get a vote okay like these players we're seeing Joe is our man we love Joe we're seeing some players
[01:17:10] be portrayed as almost like one dimensional players and I don't think people are being intimidated by people that are just gonna win some challenges or whatever now we're looking at Jonathan and yeah he is a challenge BC hasn't he hasn't won any challenges has he yet but I think we're seeing him as a more evolved Jonathan as a narrator I think he's a really good narrator actually but on the island
[01:17:39] I don't think they are as scared of him or Joe I think they're like alright that makes them prime for a move like if they get Aubrey you know you get Aubrey on this side you know Aubrey I don't think flipping comes over but Aubrey and Tiff right that's a five right there right you know like I feel like there's different I feel like the thing is I don't know if Aubrey and Tiff are going to be the ones to link up with like Jonathan and Joe right
[01:18:10] exactly to your point James of you keep the people that aren't getting along and you can hold the middle down like Tiff and Jonathan are not probably gonna work together but the people in the comments keep saying on Jonathan's original season when I said I wanted to be the ladder and he blocked us well maybe we didn't see the whole season because people keep saying that this is a very similar game that Jonathan has played even Omer from his season comment on something was like I don't think we were paying attention enough to his
[01:18:40] strategic game he laid low and kind of made little moves what I will say though with Joe yes we saw Joe last season we saw Joe at the start of this season however from last week's episode we saw Joe yo yo yo with Tiffany we see Sari today tell us that hey I mean Joe's on the Sari mount we see Joe talking with
[01:19:10] Ozzy like I'm just saying like that's four right there these combinations are I feel like when you're a survivor player looking at the combinations on the island right and that three is a good three to work with and a three you know based on the other players playing that you have votes to take them out because you know Rizzo does not want to be a four next to those three like let's just go down you have like you don't have anybody saying I want to be honor integrity and go to the end with those three no one is going to do that so at
[01:19:40] that point incredibly valuable in this game if you have that relationship and people aren't like so coach and Chrissy going if it was four people maybe not but three not threatening with as many people in the game because you're really thinking about how can I get the seven or eight and a seven or eight I still have four or five so I don't care about those three there's one immunity to go around it's a vivene there's no guarantees and that's what people are thinking I think the target will shift back when the numbers get a little small
[01:20:09] like James said where maybe you're at like seven or eight and you're like okay that is a three we don't want them taking up all the seats we got to get one
[01:20:40] to a third that I think just puts the target much more on them that is a crazy way to look at it though right where again this is why shout out to the only winner on this podcast Jack Atkins and James Jones that know they stuff where it's like I would never look at the cloth as being you know how to vote with them right like I just would never but y'all make so much sense what you're saying when you have an Emily you
[01:21:10] have a Rick you have a like all of these variables bullshit if I am an Aubrey I do go with them be like I I I never beat with anybody in the cloth like like for a while like does she like it's kind of like why am I making a beat by these three people who want to vote with me and the big thing is to the whole point of the terminology I think was off but the whole point of like the middle people these are people that get along with everybody like as in Christian and Devin they're great
[01:21:40] players so they're always gonna make you feel pretty good they're always gonna have options even when they're not like the middle per se whereas I think if you're on the island you look at like Joe Jonathan Stephanie being like god I can't stand those other guys like why was Rick being so flashy I'm sick of him like you you know they're a pretty honest bunch so you're like okay they're telling me that they want that group out like I can kind of take them at face value why would I vote them out when they're looking at four other people for me whereas you think about
[01:22:09] like Aubrey and co or Christian and whatever Christian's so great he's always gonna make you feel good but you're like I don't know who he actually really wants out because everyone feels good with Christian Jack and James can you weigh on this argument that Wendell and I had last night in St. Louis as we were breaking down in the end when we saw our fallen soldier Christian Hubiki go home we see at the end
[01:22:39] Jonathan gives him his shot in the dark bag and my perception of that was like I took that kind of as like a not a F you but like here you go I defeated you like I didn't like that and I thought it was respect you said your side Bryce I thought it was like more respect like yo you are you're that guy
[01:23:08] this is yours you gave it to me I got the best of you respect yeah I thought it was hardly supposed to be sort of a respect thing like and I don't know if I think Jonathan maybe could have kept it and used it potentially so obviously there's a respect in being like I'm gonna I'm gonna not do that and give you what's yours and I also obviously I also think it's a little bit of jury management because I think I think Jonathan voted for Rick
[01:23:37] in this split so Jonathan could play it off like oh I didn't really want Christian to go you're going home let me return what's yours and even though Jonathan kind of had this whole plan of taking it so they could vote him out this is again I think it's good play from Jonathan he doesn't vote Christian and he gives it back I almost think it's like hey like you know you're I respect you as a player I don't even I guess maybe he doesn't even know he's expecting a child but maybe it's like here's a memento of your game and you trusted me with it and I don't want to like steal it from you I want to give it back to you and show you I
[01:24:07] was trying to play straight with you so what was the vote split five to three to two or no six to three to two there was 11 people right or no yeah because Christian voted for himself Ozzy got two votes which I think were Emily and Rick right Rick got three votes because it started out like three votes Rick two Ozzy and then one Christian and then I think all the rest were Christian so it would have been six votes Christian so the I think the question is why
[01:24:37] was that the vote flip split direction I mean I think that's the I mean I think it is to keep the Joe versus Rick dynamics going because Christian probably didn't have as many of those beefs but I nine votes lined up right so you have your nine votes lined up that's very terrifying so now you have your nine votes why why that six three and why Rick over why Christian
[01:25:07] over Rick or why six three no why why Christian over Rick I think that's kind of and the numbers too I mean six four five four I feel like I feel like I feel like it was it's interesting to the vote number and you can take out either person if you have these numbers so I think there's right there's two parts I think that a you just go three on the side because you know okay Devin's and Emily are the ones not voting there's two to get a valid split you're gonna need at least two but just put three on there so
[01:25:36] it can't be shifted by one individual person right because if it's like it was gonna be seven to two to two someone in the two could flip put an idol on the seven then your split doesn't work whereas if it's three even if one person flips you still have a well I guess they could make it three this is flipping territory like I mean it's kind of like if you put in the votes if the votes are going on Christian someone knows it and Rick has a quote-unquote idol or someone has an idol like I mean it's just interesting I just think it's
[01:26:06] an interesting we're in an interesting time right now and I think I will say I think it is hurt a little bit by the fact that as far as these players know the idols can really only be played on themselves you can't really play would have to have his own idol I do think the Christian versus Rick debate is valid because if you think Rick has an idol and you want him to flush it like you would want to put more votes on Rick so that what happened like
[01:26:36] here where he doesn't play it obviously he can't play it's not real doesn't happen but in this instance I do think and I actually got to give some props to Rizzo here for kind of putting his foot down being like I think it should be Christian I think Christian is just in the long run the bigger target than Rick's Rick even with or without this idol because Rick with his idol debacle is still going to be a big moving target but if you take out Rick there's a very good chance Christian can reintegrate and you have this opportunity where Christian has to vote for himself
[01:27:06] cannot play his shot in the dark because of it I think that just makes sense as to why you go Christian I will say I think that Christian out of the two of them Christian is the biggest threat like he's he's the scarier player out of them Rick is like chaotic Christian is like a true threat to win but this was a great episode guys of Survivor News and can't wait to see what happens next week
[01:27:36] I'll be here reporting live from wherever I am yeah no I think that that definitely has me change my mind on how I thought about this episode right where I thought it was kind of mid but I think that it's like mid in the way that not a lot has happened but the table has been set and let's be clear we're ready to feast next week and JJ and Mr. Beast and like I said
[01:28:05] before Mr. Beast pull it out and exit that's it but listen JJ is always a pleasure to have you we love you when DC thank you for popping in Jackery with the survivor immunity shirts that took me for a loop but we love it I wasn't ready for it but this has been your Survivor News covering Survivor season 50 episode 9 we're in Washington DC and Pittsburgh click the link in the bio or at the
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[01:29:04] it's a purple pants it's a purple pants we all love Survivor and in my first ever book the tribe and I have spoken I'll tell you how this little show evolved from that juggernaut first season on the beaches of Borneo all the way into its landmark 50th season I'm like a storyteller that's what I do what role did the greatest players the unforgettable moments and Jeff Probst himself have in shaping what Survivor has become today and what contribution did we play in building this
[01:29:33] worldwide tribe of Survivor fans love you bae for you future players I've also included my ultimate Survivor playbook to help you win the million dollars unlike me it's fun you know what dude it's fun this hardcover edition is filled with beautiful Survivor illustrations in every chapter and is an amazing addition for every Survivor collector I'm a meat collector pre-orders are everything for a book launch so to say thank you to everyone who pre-orders you'll receive an
[01:30:02] exclusive digital bonus chapter called the ultimate rites of passage my personal tribute to all the players who have ever competed on the show all 751 pre-order wherever books are sold in hardcover and as an audio book at robhasabook.com that's robhasabook.com nicely done Rob and I'll see you next time for a time for a time for a time for a

