Purple Pants Podcast | Survivor News 50 Ep 10 Recap: If it doesn’t sound like dipping In me ft Brandon Donlon

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[00:02:37] When Deezzy, Jack Atkins, and myself are joined by Survivor 45's own, Brandon Donlan. And we are getting into episode 10 of Survivor 50. We are talking the auction. We're talking Mr. Beats. You know I say beats, but really it's Mr. Beats with Jimmy. Because they were saying Jimmy. I was saying, who is Jimmy?

[00:03:02] So much to get into with this amazing beware idol. The live Tribal Council, Rick Devins. Okay, this was a lot going on. And I'm so happy to have Wendell, Jack, and Brandon to help us break it down. And in true Survivor News, you know we get crazy and a little bit of messy. So listen, let's get in to this week's Survivor News.

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[00:04:00] The baby boys in blue are back with your Survivor News covering Survivor Season 50, Episode 10, your favorite Survivor's favorite Survivor's podcast. Survivor News. Of course, you know the baby boy. You might know him from the floor is lava. Mr. Jack Ackes coverer. What's up, Jack? I love it, man. I'm good. I love that.

[00:04:25] That's become your go-to is my brief stint on the floor is lava with one of the all-time worst performances. Although I guess that could be said about maybe any show I've done. So I'm very excited to be here. Very excited. I mean, what an episode and what a guest we have today to break it all down. Yes, I am honored and privileged to have this distinguished guest from Survivor Season 45.

[00:04:52] I tell this story often, but I am a Temple University alum, Jack. And for my longest time, go out. Okay, go out. But the longest time I kept saying, Temple does not recognize me. You know, I was on Survivor. I do all of this stuff. I kept saying it. And then all of a sudden, I got an email. They said, Bryce, we want to write an article about our distinguished alum. And that wouldn't have happened without this man.

[00:05:19] You might know him from Survivor Season 45, Mr. Brandon Donlon. Welcome back to the- Well, welcome. This is your first time on the podcast. Welcome to the podcast, Brandon. I heard we were talking about worst all-time performances. So, you boys here. I brought snacks. I'm so thrilled to be here. This is so much fun. And I'm thrilled to- I've had, like, two jobs that I've worked at for more than a year. And they've been at Temple University and my current job at Rob is a Pocket. So, I'm thrilled that we mailed both of those right now.

[00:05:49] We love it. We listen. The star of the star himself. The funniest man ever. Brandon and I, Ashley Jack, two weeks ago, we had the opportunity to go to Drexel University to watch the Battle of Acapella performances that was Survivor-based theme. And I had the opportunity to sit next to Brandon. And we had a time. It was Survivor-themed acapella? Well, there it was.

[00:06:18] There was this young man who's a senior. I believe his name is Jason. And he is a musical major. And he is in the Drexel Acapella group, which is even a smaller connection. When I was in college working part-time at a shoe store, I used to fit this young lad his shoes. And when I got off of the island, we did a little meet and greet at the shoe store.

[00:06:44] And Brandon and his mom, Brandon, Jason and his mom pulled up. I think his name is Jordan. Jordan! Listen, it started with a J, so I was close. Jordan. And yes, I was, you know, full circle seeing Jordan, so it was so much fun. But just, you know, being there with Brandon and listening to the amazing... It was a lot of that. Okay.

[00:07:13] They was killing it, though, Jack. They were killing it. Bryce and I, at any moment, it could have been just two extra seconds of silence. It could have been anything. We were just, we were having a ball. We were, you know, nudging each other. We were really liking it. At one point, somebody kind of did a little, a little... They didn't trip over the microphone cord, but they did a little extra walk. And Bryce, it was... It was like Bross and Robin Sandra in that little booth they had.

[00:07:44] We were really taking it. We were loving it. Wow. And it was Survivor theme, but there was a lot of just beatboxing going on. Is that... It was like a Chris Noble star to me, Sam Phelan type of that. Something like that. It was like all of the universities and schools in the area, their acapella groups. It was like a spring concert. And Jordan had the opportunity to host it. And it seemed like this was like his senior project.

[00:08:13] And so he loves Survivor. So he made it Survivor themed. And so the stage was kind of like Tribal Council. All of the people, they were like their tribe colors. So it was really, really great. On time, I mean. And true James Jones fashion. He didn't get there on time. But all of a sudden, me and Brandon start smelling smoke. I'm like... Somebody's smoking? And all of a sudden, James just appears behind us.

[00:08:41] And the second we acknowledge him, Brandon was feeling so uncomfortable, Jack. Because Brandon, I don't know how often he interacts with James Jones. But James Jones has a very distinct voice. And James Jones was excited to see us. So in the middle of the... James Jones is having a full-out conversation. Full voice with Brandon.

[00:09:07] And Brandon was doing every non-verbal signal to James Jones to let James know Brandon was uncomfortable and like, we need to watch the show. Like at one point, Brandon just turned around. And James was still talking. I can't stress enough to you, Jack Higgins. It's the middle of a performance. It's a minute and a half into a three-minute performance. We've just hit the middle. And you can talk a little bit in the beginning. Because it's like, oh, I didn't know they started.

[00:09:37] Or if you're like 30 minutes from the end. Or 30 seconds from the end. It's like, we're winding down. They're winding down. It's the middle of a performance. They're crescendoing. And we hear James Jones is like, hey! It's in the middle of the... Here's the thing about James Jones. He'll talk some Survivor in any setting. So you might be at the acapella. He comes and sits down. He's like, you just got to get to the end with a story. He's like, you guys should tag Jeff.

[00:10:06] Jeff needs to see this. And I'm like, James, shut up. Like, it's in the middle of these kids' performance. But nevertheless, we... And then, and just like that, Jack. And then James Jones came in. Brandon and I turned back around. He was a ghost in the middle of the area. He was gone. So, listen, we got to catch JJ when we see him. Just like Wendell and I. We are on the road to 50.

[00:10:36] Last night, we were in Washington, D.C. And the time was had. Ozzy was in Pittsburgh shutting it down. We are on to the final three stops of Bryson with 50. Next week, we'll be in Austin, Texas. We're at time to be had. Following that, we're going to be in Chicago. Chicago, Jack Atkins keeps, you know, the posse was in D.C. last night. And they said, is Jack really showing up to Chicago? We'll see. We will see.

[00:11:06] We'll see. Got to figure some things out. The pin ultimate episode will be in Chicago. After that, we are heading to New York City. Join us Tuesday night for Reality Karaoke. And all things lead to the road to 50 on May 20th, the season finale. Tickets are available. Click the link in this YouTube bio. Or head over to the Bryce and Wynn Present Instagram page. And make sure you follow and get these tickets. Because we are wrapping this season up.

[00:11:34] And this season, they said it was in the hands of the fans. I don't know if it was the Jimmy Fallon fans. If it was the Jeff Bezos fans. I don't really know. But I feel like last night, it was in the fingertips of the Survivor fans. Because we got some good action. Okay? I mean, dare I say, this was the best twist we have had this season. What you think, Jack?

[00:12:04] I think out of the celebrity twist, this was the best twist. I think it was a great episode. And I think it all worked out really, really nice. I think there was an opportunity where if that coin didn't flip the right way, it could have been a pretty bad episode.

[00:12:27] Maybe that helps us as the fans kind of ride on board with the coin flip and really get us in the action. Because it's like, this episode is either going to kind of suck or it's going to be a banger. Fortunately, it was a banger. But I do feel like there is some discussion that needs to be had about all sides of the twist. But I am very excited about the episode. I'm excited about, you know, we got the auction. And we got some other really fun moments. So it was chock full of great moments.

[00:12:56] And I didn't realize going in right until the episode started, I didn't know it was going to be a two-hour episode. And I was very excited about that. I love you get that surprise extra half an hour. But yeah, I'm very curious to hear both of y'all's thoughts. I want to know what the game plan was. You tell these 10 people, like, there's going to be an extra million dollars, potentially, if this coin flip works out. And then it works out.

[00:13:23] But if it doesn't work out, is there another plan, like, in the episode after to get that? Because it's weird to dangle the million dollars and then not have it come to fruition. So I was more, and nobody loves Rick Evans more than me. Rick Evans is the best person in the world. I love Rick Evans. And I was rooting for it to happen. But I was kind of curious. Like, what happens if it doesn't work out? Agreed. I would go. I have a crazy theory.

[00:13:52] I think the coin was like, I think it had to work out. I just think the whole twist is cooked. The Mr. Beast collaboration kind of goes out the window a little bit if it just, like, doesn't work. I totally agree. You dangle the extra million and then it doesn't happen. It'd just be kind of like, oh, okay. There's no point in that. And I'm glad Rick, who I think now has cemented himself as one of the most entertaining survivor players ever.

[00:14:21] I mean, he brings it, especially at Tribal Council, multiple times this season, also in Edge of Extinction. Just so glad he stepped up to do this, too. Because there's also a world where nobody steps up and, like, Sari draws the bad rock and has to flip the coin. And she, like, goes home. And we would all be like, this is the worst thing ever. So, you know, in retrospect, it worked out great.

[00:14:49] But I think there's a lot of worlds where this goes very bad. And I think it's worth pointing that out because I don't want Survivor to get too big for their britches, as they say. And think, like, we got to keep bringing back Mr. Beast that people are loving this. What I will say, though, about Mr. Beast, though, because, again, when I learned it was a two-hour episode, I had Zac Brown flashbacks.

[00:15:14] I said, oh, Lord Jesus, I don't need to see Mr. Beast climb in a tree and open up a coconut. And I like the fact that every, like, I feel like Mr. Beast says seven words. Okay. Yeah. I feel like they definitely edited down his conversation because he's like, wow, guys, you're really excited to see me. And I loved it. So, I'll say, a couple weeks ago, I listened to Rob Cessarino's interview with Mr. Beast.

[00:15:43] And it actually gave me a lot of appreciation for, I was very pleasantly surprised with what Mr. Beast was bringing to the table. Jimmy has a Chicago. You know, after last night, we're friends now. That threw me off. Because I'm like, is Jimmy Fallon here, too? Why does he keep saying Jimmy? There's a lot of Jimmies. Jimmy Johnson and Jimmy T are going to be here next episode.

[00:16:07] But I thought that on the podcast with Rob, I really actually liked his perspective on, like, reality TV and what he was doing with Beast games and his thoughts on Survivor. And I don't always think he's, like, the best host, per se. But when he builds this multi-million, billion-dollar YouTube channel, like, naturally, he's going to fall into that role in some ways. But I thought, like, as a producer, that Mr. Beast had the right perspective.

[00:16:34] And so to see that this episode where, and I don't know if it was, like, a retroactive re-edit after the Zac Brown backlash or whatever. But felt like we got the right amount of Mr. Beast. The twist was pretty good. And I saw Mr. Beast tweeted after basically saying, like, you know, this isn't about me. This is about adding a twist that's going to make Survivor really, essentially saying, like, this is going to make Survivor really exciting. I don't need the screen time, whatever. So I feel like Mr. Beast was just a great partner in that.

[00:17:03] Or I should say, as I said, Jimmy. What I did love is they really limited his talking. He was hitting lots of emotes, though. A lot of. Which I thought was pretty funny. It was interesting to hear you say that he tweeted about it because I, you know, we're 10 episodes into the episode. So does Billie Eilish know she has an idol? Because, like, I, like. Well, I don't know if you saw.

[00:17:32] She had a commercial last night being like, hey, guys, you know, I'm a big fan. Check out my new movie. And I was like, Billie, it's too late for that. Nothing that we have learned indicates that you watch this show. Exactly. You're part of this. She's like, you guys know I'm a huge Survivor fan. It's like, do we know that? And now you want to show up when your movie's dropping and talk about it. It's too late, Billie. I'm sorry. I don't know if you guys saw the video. I forget his name.

[00:18:01] He's a big Survivor, like TikToker. The video of him breaking down Billie and Justin Bieber at Kofora. Oh, yes. That was an awesome video. That was hilarious. He did a little parody where I thought it was real. Where she was talking. Well, he was talking about the idols. And I was like, wait. Oh, this is real. Like, child. How far in did you realize it wasn't real? After I watched it and got into the comments, I was like, yo, this is so dope.

[00:18:31] I went to the all winners Survivor page because I'm like, they have to have this posted. And then like, actually, that's where I learned that it was a joke. I was like. I think that's Survivor Analytics, I think is the account. And we love you and we see you, Survivor Analytics. That also did get me. I was fooled also. Like, halfway in, I think I was like, oh, this is it. But she hasn't said anything the whole time. It's not crazy to think that maybe she said something, you know, at Coachella. She's got a big audience.

[00:19:00] It's, you know, at least 30 of those people watch Survivor. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, she was saving up all the conversation to have with Bieber on stage about the state of affairs on Survivor. Yeah, I'll be honest. And I know maybe this isn't her whole marketing direction or whatever. Yeah. I don't want to see you. You didn't say anything the whole season. And now you're like, go watch my movie. I'm right. You should have said something sooner. Maybe I would have supported the movie.

[00:19:28] But now it just looks like a. I don't know. Trying to try to. And it's what you're trying to piggyback off. You know, my personal favorite artist, Mr. Beast. So. Sure. Sure. I like with Mr. B. I think this is the only celebrity involvement that they. I think Mr. Beast thought of this himself and then pitched it. Whereas I think Jimmy got an idea from a list and Billy clearly got an idea from a list. I guess Zach. Publicist.

[00:19:58] Zach was like, I want to go fish. And they were like, all right. Okay. It's not really like a game mechanic. But I think that you need producer brain a little bit to think of something that'll be not only good TV, but also beneficial to the person who it happens to, you know. So I and not detrimental. Like, yes. In a world where it's random and then it happens to Sari, we all hate it. But I like the you guys get to vote on who does it because you'll always get one person

[00:20:25] who, you know, if it's not Rick, it's somebody else who wants the camera time. It's like, I'll risk it. You think so? I think there's you always get someone that does it. I don't know. I don't. Out of this cast, I think maybe they could have convinced Aubrey. But like, I feel like outside of Rick and Aubrey, I felt like when they were teasing it or when Jeff drew it up to her, I felt like if we didn't have a Rick, I felt like she might take it. But outside of Rick and Aubrey, I don't know anybody else.

[00:20:55] Rizzo tweeted that he was thinking about it. And then Sari gave him a look that was like, sit your ass down. And he was like, OK, I wonder. And we're all saying it and we're all here. But like, do you think they had a feeling it was going to hit? Like, I wonder what the their risk versus reward was where they were all like, it's going to it's going to like there's no way they're going to make the TV moment not work. Not that I'm accusing anybody of rigging anything. But in the event, you're going to flip the clock.

[00:21:25] Like, it makes sense that this is the story that is. Yeah, I wonder if that's it. You wonder in the back of your mind, like, is this just going to naturally work out? Like, will I be rewarded for taking this risk? And I don't know exactly how they would do it, because at first I thought it was a weighted coin. But then it was like, Rick has to call the side. Yeah. Maybe they gave him a wink and be like, Mr. Beast. Or my theory was they could have two different weighted coins that they like once he picks

[00:21:53] a side, it's like, all right, let's bring the coin back out. And it's like just weighted to be. And honestly, it's rigged. If it was rigged, if there's ever a time to rig it a little bit, this is the time. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Let's rig it. Yeah. My only take, two things that I didn't necessarily like. Well, my one theory is I feel like if it didn't hit and Rick went home, I have a sneaking

[00:22:18] suspicion after watching Beast Games season two, I feel like Mr. Beast might have rewarded Devin's with that million dollars. I can see that. And my other question or my other like gripe to Jimmy is, Mitch, we seen Beast Games season two. You was giving out five million. You was giving out three million. You was giving out to like just a million. And I felt like we've seen this at Winners at War, like low key.

[00:22:47] So it was like two million. It isn't. You've done that already. Like I felt like make it two million, make it three million. This is season 50 and it's Mr. Beast and he got the money. I think that's a hot take. I don't know if that's of all the things that happened last night. And I don't necessarily disagree. I think it's funny. All the things that happened last night, you're like, Mr. Beast should have just coughed up a little more breath. I feel like, which is also Survivor's only given a million.

[00:23:17] And that's been a little bit outdated. And you're like, but Jimmy, you know, he was on screen for five minutes. He should have been bringing. Well, you know, the thing about Beast Games is his show. So it's the crossover episode. What I do think is weird is that it's like it's and they made a point to say it's Mr. Beast's money, which it feels like when you go out to like dinner with your parents and you like offer to pay. They're like, we got it. Like, I feel like Jimmy to CBS is like, I'll give the money.

[00:23:46] And then CBS should be like, no, we will do it. Well, we got it. But they were like, we'll take it. Can you do more? Are you sure you don't want to pitch in, Dad? I just I just mowed the neighbor's lawn. I got five bucks. And Dad was like, no, no, I got it. OK. But CBS was like, yeah, it's the CBS, as you can write. We cut it down to 26 days for a reason. Let's give us this check. But let's let's get to the episode where you want to start, because I have.

[00:24:17] Well, I want to say I still kind of want to stay on because we've been hitting this Mr. Beast stuff and I think there's more to explore. And obviously we're going a little bit out of order here, but we've already sort of dove into this and it was obviously perhaps the highlight of the season. So can we stay on it for a second, Bryce? Jack, you're the moderator. You tell me. Well, so, you know, we've we've discussed, I guess, do we think this twist outside of how

[00:24:46] it worked out, like just on paper where you can volunteer, you can volunteer or someone will get. If nobody volunteers and there's rocks and then you either you flip a coin, you either are safe and get an idol or you just go home. Do we like that mechanic of a twist, you know, completely independent of how it worked out?

[00:25:09] Like, do we think that's like a good twist or fair or like balanced or interesting? The reaction for season 41 and 42 with that do or die, which this is, I guess, the most equitable comp to people really didn't like it. And I don't know why I like it so much here. Power glass. No, no, this is like Deshaun. And then was it was it Drea or Lindsay in 42? I forget who did it.

[00:25:38] But Deshaun is like bows out of a challenge or you're the first out of a challenge. And then you have to pick a Monty Hall problem. And then it's either you are safe or you just leave the game. And then both people who did it in 41 and 42 were both safe. But that just felt like weird and out of place. Whereas this I really like I thought this was a lot of fun. I agree with you, Brandon. I almost again, I love the hourglass. Right. And so I think it's a combination of the evolution of do or die in the hourglass.

[00:26:07] Because, again, the way that I look at this is the person the person at the bottom will benefit the most from this because y'all are clearly sending them to their demise. And so they really have nothing to lose. And so I say it time and time again, where it's like when you're on Survivor and you tell the person like, oh, we don't really want to do much. You going home today, Brandon. And like, that's just what's going to be when they're playing from the bottom.

[00:26:37] And there ain't nothing wrong with that. But when you are playing from the bottom, you have nothing to lose. Right. Like you are going to go balls to the wall. And so I just think that this is something very similar, like even with the hourglass, where the person that no one is connected with, they're going to give the hourglass to them because it's like they want to keep their group together. And then all of the power is in the hourglass. So I think it's an evolved version of that. And I like it.

[00:27:05] And again, I like for the people to take the risk. And Brandon, I always be struggling. I have to ask Jack a lot. But if you're shot in the dark, I'm like, well, when's the best time to play it mathematically, Jack? Like, you know, with this, I understood the math. You got a one out of two shot. OK, this is Bryce math. OK, like I understood it. And I was like, oh, this is a risk I'm willing to take. Yeah.

[00:27:33] No, I so yeah, I think on paper, it's just like a really, really it's like a shot in the dark on steroids where your odds are better. You get an idol out of it and you get like the good will, I guess, of if you flip it right and you earn an extra million bucks, like people are going to be pretty happy with Rick Devins unless you're unless you're Joe. I don't know if you saw, but when everyone jumped up and celebrated, they're like.

[00:28:03] And obviously the downside is in someone I think I was listening to the know it all was last night and they made this point of like shot in the dark. You can play it and like be in like not be safe, but still not go home because people just didn't vote for you. Obviously here you do go home. That's the that's the big downside, relatively speaking. So I think, Brandon, to bring up the do or die is just is a great comp. And I think the general sentiment with that is like we don't love when people go home without

[00:28:31] a vote. And so to me, the downside here and again, luckily we avoided it is. You know, Rick flips the wrong side and he just like walks out and we lose all this great pre tribal scramble and everything that happened. And it's like, oh, that was like extremely anticlimactic. Obviously, I think had the outcome been. And him going home, I think the edit would have been a lot different of like it's going to be Devin's.

[00:28:59] He's going to like shoot his shot here. And it's really like a do or die. We wouldn't have maybe seen as much. But I also still think we lose out and not seeing all of that stuff because I think his the scramble that he did and like the things he the points he made at tribal, I thought were all really, really fun. And so I would have hated to lose those things. I think overall, I didn't mind it again.

[00:29:22] But here's the thing to both the solution in my mind to a not having a vote and be getting rid of like the potential of this rock draw to like really screw somebody over. I would have liked if they couldn't come to an agreement, then they would vote for who had to flip the coin. Yeah, I like that a lot. And then at least I think there's some strategy there of like, do I want Rick to flip the coin? Like if Rick's my target, do I want to give him this chance?

[00:29:51] And I think people probably do. But then it's like, OK, at least Rick has been or whoever has been like sentenced to this chat like this chance. And there's like some personal responsibility as to like why you were the one voted to do this. And you get to see the vote and the scramble. And then it doesn't feel as as bad if they just if they go home. And I also think I think it was Zach Wurtenberg who I was watching with that said like, we also were predicting some part of this Mr.

[00:30:20] Beast beware would be a double boot because we have now we have two more episodes until the finale, which will presumably happen with six people left. So we're going to have to get rid of three people in the next two episodes. We thought, hey, maybe this is the double boot episode. And I think, you know, if Rick does go home, then maybe there was an opportunity of now we do vote another person. That's how I think you fix it. That's maybe that would have happened.

[00:30:50] Like, I don't like time wise. I don't know. But maybe that was their solution to like if Rick just walks out, we still do vote someone out and then we figure out the double vote. But I don't know. I'm glad it all worked out like it was such a fun episode. But I in my mind, the producer in my mind was just like, this could have gone very bad. Right. But I think that's exactly right. And I think that it adds more stakes for everybody else.

[00:31:15] Your your your Jonathan's and your series or Ozzy's who is OK with Rick doing this thing is if he does successfully unsuccessfully hit it, we still have to get rid of like we're not in the clear. And I think that makes the interesting the conversation more interesting as to who to push out to do it. But Joe's so funny. Joe's literally so funny. Listen, we I love me some Joe, but it's it's like.

[00:31:45] Joe is the only loyal member to the Honor and Integrity Club, and it's like, you know, when Rick Devens reveals the idol and he's like, hey, I just just some paper from the billiard. And I just stuffed it in there. And Joe's confession is like that low down, dirty dog. You can't you can't trust nothing he says out of his mouth. He my number one. Well, it's just like, Joe, you knew this from episode three.

[00:32:14] And so it's like my life. Joe, what are you what are you thinking is happening here? The best survivor characters. Oh, there he is. I said the best survivor characters. And then he popped up. It's like, you know, I was talking about him. What's up, Brandon? The best survivor characters like your coaches and your and your, you know, your Sanders and properties like they have natural opposition.

[00:32:40] And I think like one of the best things about Rick Devens is that people constantly hate Rick Devens. I mean, it's so much funnier to have to have him always have like somebody on the other side who's like this guy. So he had it in the prejury last time and the whole jury of his last run. And and now Joe, Joe can't get away from him. I got a question with a flashy gameplay like that.

[00:33:05] It doesn't won't that breed people that don't necessarily love you or like I just I just feel like he does so much. So naturally, there will be people that are perturbed by that. And that's going to rub jurors the wrong like people. It's like you're always doing so much. Well, 100 percent. But that's why I think to Brandon's point, that's why we love him. It's like the jury usually like eats his antics up because they're not in the game and they're like, this is a show.

[00:33:35] Same as us like viewers being like, it's not necessarily the best gameplay. I don't think anyone's arguing that. But it's like this is the thing about Ricky. He's always going to go for it. And that's just such good TV. So, yeah, it is going to rub people in the game the wrong way. And that's why if Rick somehow makes a run on this season, I'd be shocked. Like, I still think he's in trouble, but it's just it's so fun. Yeah. So we have good TV. The jurors basically have good TV because they're sitting there watching these antics.

[00:34:04] But as he sends people to the jury, I don't know. I think they might even if he's sitting at the end, they might sour or kind of like a Tony and Kaga on. They might be like, yo, he did that. He did that. Yeah. Yeah. It depends. A guy like Joe, I think is just going to be sour. But that's why he's such an interesting player of like, there's not a lot of other examples where the other people in the game are so generally like rubbed wrong by you.

[00:34:33] But then the whole jury's like loves you. I mean, this is it was the same way at Edge of Extinction. Like the jury was eating up his antics, whereas like Ron and Julie were like thought he was the bane of their existence. When Rick was when we got back from tribal and Rick was talking to us, the fans about like. They keep putting me in the back. Like, I think I got to bring the old Ricky out to say you're calling for him. So I got to bring him out.

[00:35:02] And it's just like, Ricky, Ricky been here the whole time. But like, I would have loved to make like, it almost begs the question where it's like, even in life, where sometimes like you try to conform into something and then it's just like, it's just not who you are. And you realize once you are yourselves, the accolades, all the things come. And so it's just like, I really wonder if Ricky would have just in his mind been like, fuck it is Rick Devin season 50.

[00:35:31] It just makes me wonder what difference it could have looked like. Because like, would he be more in a power position? Would he be, would he be home? Like, I don't know. But like, I like this cousin Ricky. And when he went to tribal and said, fuck all this shit. Let me just tell you this. Brandon said Wendell smelled like cheese. Wendell said Jack's refrigerator got moldy. Crackers in it.

[00:36:01] Like it just, him putting everything on blast. That was, I mean, and again, when you playing from the bottom, we don't bottom shame here. Play from the bottom. It was a great pitch. It was a great pitch. And a pitch that I think he only does because he knows he's going to get voted out. Like that's, there's no shot. Yeah. It's a last ditch effort. It's desperation. I'm blowing everything up. I'm going down swinging.

[00:36:28] And then thankfully, Mr. Beast comes out with the super. Yeah. And Wendell, that's all we had really gotten into so far was just that Mr. Beast twist with the coin. Obviously what ended up happening, but also what could have happened if Rick had just been sent home. If they had to draw rocks to see who flipped it. What were your thoughts on this twist? Just like on paper. And then I guess also, you know, the way that it worked out. Okay.

[00:36:57] So let's think it through. If it lands on what he says, he gets all the stuff he got. He gets this, you know, everything. If it doesn't, he gets sent home and there's no vote. That person is just sent home. Right. Yep. And if no one chooses, then they have to draw rocks for someone to flip it. Yep. I think the mechanic is cool.

[00:37:22] I think that this, this coin flip, I think it should, if it's a super beware, I'd almost think that it's like, and I heard this on the know it all. So I'm, I'm, I'm borrowing this, this take, but I think that you have that person go home and y'all have to vote someone out also. That's what we were saying. Yeah. Yeah. Now, Brandon Wendell said that he believed the coin was weighted. What'd you think? No, I said that.

[00:37:51] I think I know, I know Jeff. Shut up. No, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. It's a, it's, it's, it's, it's such a great TV moment that they put into being able to actually happen. And it just would have been such a nothing if it's just like, Oh, you know, we'll take the money back. And then you leave. Now I'm not accusing it necessarily being weighted, but it's just such a strange, I would have loved to have seen what happened. If there's no Mr. Beast has to shut the money. Here's what would have happened. We would have seen him in the next episode also doing something.

[00:38:20] So that's exactly what I did. Yeah. He's doing a challenge. You know, one of those. Yeah. They want to get the million added in there somehow. And that's why, like, obviously I don't think that they would necessarily rig the coin, but I was like, they really want it to work out in this way. And it's just like way better TV. If it does, I do agree with Rick. Like, because our whole thing, Brandon called out like the do or die twist that was in 41 and 42.

[00:38:45] And neither of the people involved with that just went home because they like, quote unquote, like died. They did instead. But I think the whole mechanic and like the sentiment back then was like, you don't really want someone to go home with no, like without even having a vote. And that could have happened here. But I do agree it was basically like a, like, like an amplified version of the shot in the dark. So it feels like a equal punishment to what you could get out of it.

[00:39:15] And we're appreciative of the fact that Rick volunteered because if someone had just like drawn a rock, like, like Sari, we said, if Sari had just drawn a rock and gone home, that would have been like one of the worst episodes ever. So we both, we all kind of agreed that, Hey, if Rick does go home, there should have been a vote after. And then I also tossed out the idea of like, instead of drawing rocks, maybe they just have to vote for who, who does flip the coin so that there is still a vote being done. Okay. That would be cool.

[00:39:44] Cause you know, they're all voting Rick anyway. Yeah. Yeah. But then maybe to that vote, it's like, well, do I actually want to vote Rick to be the one to flip? Like, I don't know. So, um, but we all, I think we, I can say we all felt like it at least worked out pretty well, but there, there were worlds where it would not happen. I think that could have been bad. Yeah. I think outside. Yes.

[00:40:08] I think outside of Rick though, I think two people had stellar performances in very different ways. One and two y'all tell me which one I should start with. Start with, uh, Tiffany and then move to Aubrey. Okay. Well, that's three and four. Because. With Saree, I think. Saree. Oh yeah.

[00:40:33] My other person that I thought was kind of cooking, but I mean, again, going against the claw was Mr. Jonathan. Okay. Because hear me out. I can't trust Christian. You pick it. He's a liar. Oh, Emily flipping. Your name's flipping. I can't trust you. Joe. I like you. Stephanie. You my sister. Now, wait a minute. Okay. Mr. Bish. Because Stephanie ain't say nobody Ozzy name. Okay.

[00:41:03] And I like, I was, I was impressed that Mr. Jonathan dropped that little nugget and big bag. Stephanie wins the fly in. And then I even thought it was more hilarious during tribal where Ricky is blowing the spot up for everybody. And Stephanie is literally out there naked, walking the plank, asking for somebody to please give me a blanket.

[00:41:32] Somebody throw me something. And Jonathan said. That's crazy. He started that avalanche. Yeah. She didn't throw him under the bus. Did she say something on the, on the way out or something? She was like, I did not start that vote, but she didn't say anything about Jonathan. So Jonathan got another notch on his belt.

[00:41:56] Well, like sort of, I mean, not like, but he was not the one that spearheaded this. Like in Jonathan's mind, this was a very bad episode, like tribal council. But Bryce, I do agree. Cause when Jonathan started cooking on this Ozzy vote, Jonathan was speaking in a way strategically that I didn't even know was possible. It was like, I know he worked with Boston Rob beforehand to prep.

[00:42:22] I didn't know Boston Rob's ghost was inside of Jonathan using him as a vessel to speak. But like, I was very impressed with how he maneuvered. And especially given the fact that he launched this vote and kind of, at least so far has gotten out of it kind of scot-free. Even Stephanie didn't throw him under the bus. I will say though, I don't know if targeting Ozzy was the right move though. Cause I think you have more people in this game that do not really want to work with a Jonathan and a Stephanie.

[00:42:52] Whereas Ozzy is like open to it. Like Emily Flippen and Rick should still be, I think the target for a Jonathan. They're not going to be people that you're going to really work with. I do think though, that Jonathan showed a lot of willingness to adapt with the Stephanie of it all and kind of went with it in a way where you see Joe like doesn't want the plan to happen every week. And he does vote for the person who ends up leaving, but like begrudgingly. So he waits to the last second to try to switch it.

[00:43:20] Whereas Jonathan saw that it was going a different way and he hopped on it, which is not, you know, that's a Boston Rob move. I imagine, which I think is, you know, that's what you need to do to do well. Um, whereas, you know, Joe, a couple of weeks ago, not wanting to write coach's name and having to go back up and like, write it. It's really small on the thing. That's an unwillingness to adapt to the situation. Um, which, you know, coach might really respect that on the jury, but people, other people will not. Did Joe write her name really small?

[00:43:50] Is that it's illegible. You got to see the screen. It's funny how in Joe's mind, if he goes up to the booth and doesn't like write it correctly, he's sort of like, I didn't vote for that. I don't know. When it was coaching Chrissy and he just wrote Chrissy, he's like, I didn't vote for coach. And then now he's like, I didn't vote for Stephanie. He couldn't even read my handwriting. That's honor and integrity, right? That is honor. That's honor and eligibility. It is interesting to like bend the rule.

[00:44:17] Like he's bending the rules to try to still be honor and integrity. In his own mind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is really interesting. That's how we always do it. I mean, that's the coach classic of when I do vote on someone that I was aligned with, it's like, well, well, you know, God told me I had to do that. Coach was like, Joe, if they can't spell it, they can't read it. You clear.

[00:44:40] But it's interesting when we're seeing, because I feel like Survivor 50 is really all about the old school mechanics and the new school mechanics. Right. And so I feel like, again, another testament of that was Stephanie. Right. And I feel like Stephanie really went her, her move that she was using to protect herself was very old and outdated of, I didn't start the conversation.

[00:45:10] I didn't say your name. I didn't do that. What are you talking about? And it's when you watch the clips of like her talking to the people, she's like, well, that's what I heard. But I don't want to say a name. But if you say it, I'll go with it. And again, we we've seen that in Survivor before. And it's been so great. But like, I think the Riz guy called it out at Tribal Council where he like, what's up? Welcome to the new world. Welcome to color. We see black. We see white. We see gay. We see straight.

[00:45:40] Like, we see all of the people. And guess what? Bryce might be gay, but I don't like him because he ugly. Not because he gay. Like, so it's like. And Rizzo said all that at Tribal Council? But Rizzo was essentially like, yo, sis, like, you playing this. It was. I did it in the shower. It wasn't me. Want to call me on the fire? It wasn't me. I know that one. She even called me her hair dick. I know this one. She even called me her hair dick.

[00:46:10] Coming with the girl next door. Oh, I thought I would not worth you. No, you basically did it in the shower. He's remixing this one. It wasn't me. I know this one better than you, right? This girl next door. Fix it as weird as a fat naked man. And I'm so dumb. How can I forget that I had given her an extra key? All that time she was standing and she never took her eyes off me.

[00:46:40] All that time she was standing and she didn't even say I got no check in the bags. Jack, why did you fit right there? Sounds like Drexel off the heller right now. This episode is brought to you by Redfin. You're listening to a podcast, which means you're probably multitasking. Maybe even scrolling home listings on Redfin.

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[00:47:37] This is time for Jack. Don't say a word about me. You know this song. Word for word. Bryce Isaiah. Bryce, I will quit the podcast. Don't you start with me. Is there something you want to share? Bryce Isaiah. Not with Brandon Dolan on the pod, Bryce Isaiah. Okay? Keep it cute. Brandon just got it.

[00:48:07] Jackery, get your man. I will quit this podcast. He knew the melodies. It wasn't him. This is Jackery. Jackery. What song is it? That's Shaggy. It wasn't me. Oh. Come on, man. I would sing it wrong, but that's not my inflection. What song is your inflection? What do you think best suits your inflection?

[00:48:37] Headliner Coachella Weekend One. Give me a little Justin Bieber. Okay. Yeah. That song UConn. What's up? That song UConn. Oh, yeah. Sing it. I can't. I can't really sing, but, you know. I'm just saying. Shaggy puts a little something on his lyrics that I don't think I should do. I'll be on my Scooby kind of vibe. Sure. Or your friend.

[00:49:07] You stay on Fred. I'll be on my Fred. Yeah. I'm a different type of Shaggy. Zoinks, dude. Butt naked in the shower. Well, you started hitting the part that, like, wasn't even, you know, there's a part that's not even really. It's just, you know, just vibes. He's going for it. Let's continue on. But, okay.

[00:49:36] So, to your point, Bryce, I'm glad you brought that up. Because I was sitting there watching Stephanie defend herself. And I'm like, even if this is your defense, is this, you want to tell all your fellow players, you're like, I would never facilitate a vote. I've never facilitated a vote in my life. But I won't. Would I ever vote for you to win? Like, if you're just like, hey, I've never started to vote or thrown a name out ever. I'm like, that's not how you play Survivor.

[00:50:02] And so, it's like, Stephanie can't start a vote and she doesn't know how to finish a sentence. Then, like, what is she doing? You know, normally when you ask people, who did you vote for? What do they say? Yeah, she's got an answer for that. I mean. I don't talk politics. I love it here. I want to be here every week. I've never voted. Coach wrote in his name. Did you see that article? Coach wrote in his name for 2024.

[00:50:32] Yes. Yes. Yes. Coach wrote in his own name? Yeah. For the 2024 election. Brandon, stop. Get out of my algorithm. Listen. Did he announce that? He did. I believe he said, I'm not political. I voted for me in the 2024 election. Oh, he got up, went to the polls. I mean, he thought he had a chance.

[00:51:03] He's not often right about these votes, how they go, I don't think. He's 21 before. That's my man, but you got to tell other people to vote for you if you're- Yeah, I was going to say, you are allowed, not to say, I don't know if it'd get traction, but it's like, if you do want to write your own name in, you can run. But that's kind of the first step. I like it. This is the new maneuver for us, like a centrist white man who doesn't really want to vote

[00:51:33] is to just go vote for yourself. You're like, I did vote. I voted for myself. Or some people was like, I just, I voted for lump. What's that? It was in the legend. I got it. I love you. I love you. Yeah. It's like when you put like the true false on a test, you make it like a T, but you also make it like a little F. I was doing a lot of that. Yeah.

[00:52:03] So. I know, but yeah, can we, can I hear you? Because Bryce, you brought up a great point that I totally agreed with. Like, is it not just crazy to be like, I've never facilitated a vote? I'm not that stupid where I throw out a name. It's like, well, you're playing Survivor. For some time, you got to throw out a name. It doesn't have to be this time. But how do you play Survivor without ever throwing out a name and like expect to win? And again, it's the classic, the new school versus the old school.

[00:52:31] This is something we saw in the 20s, in the early 30s, in the teens. This is how people play. It was like, you just don't say a name. You listen for a name. And it's just kind of so very telling where it's like, you're being so loyal and not even saying Jonathan's name, right? Like you're protecting him at your own cost. And it's like, you see Rick Davis. Rick Davis just pissed off. Serene, where's God? Ozzy.

[00:53:00] And he's still here because in the new era, it's like, all right, F you today. But tomorrow, we'll figure something out. And it's another thing that makes me think where I don't know if the cloth is still the cloth. The cloth is a shred at this point, right? And it makes me wonder, right, is Jonathan in a good position now? Because listen, now the nucleus that is, that was the middle.

[00:53:27] Now the middle is everybody, but Jonathan and some people. Now it's like, you're going to have to cannibalize soon. And in order to cannibalize who you're going to need, right? And so it's like, it's just interesting where Jonathan's position, where it's like, yeah, his alliance is decimated. But now when people start to want to eat people, they're going to need a vote. So it just, the game is heating up.

[00:53:54] And the Rick Davins pitch of this tribal council is essentially the Jonathan pitch tomorrow, where he's like, my ships are sunk. And if you need me, I'm like, look at who's around here. Like we could take any of them out, just use me to do it. On which I do think he'll do. Whereas I don't see that for Joe. I think Joe is going to, you know, you know, with love, with so much love. There's the back. But does that like, so this is where I struggle in Survivor, Brandon.

[00:54:23] This is where I need Wendell and Jax and your help. So if we know that with Joe, is somebody, is Joe somebody I want to, hey, come with me to the end, right? Like, you know what, like, because it's like, what's your game? What you doing? Like, you know, I feel like it's like people kept saying Emily, Emily. But I also see a world where it's like, I kind of want to, come on, Joe.

[00:54:51] Bryce, there's a lot of claws sitting on that jury. And he rode for a lot of them. So you might be guaranteeing Joe three votes. So, but, but again, gameplay wise and his gameplay, honesty, loyalty to a fault. Some players played like that and they went down like that. So you put him at the end.

[00:55:19] I could see a scenario where he does see a few votes from his cloth alliance. True. I do think, I agree, but I still, I think his votes are kind of capped out though. Like, yeah, he gets, he get coach, he get Chrissy. Stephanie. I don't know about Stephanie though. I can see Steph voting for like a Sari or an Ozzie. Stephanie ain't voting for Sari. This is the sixth time. Stephanie done. Okay. Stephanie is done.

[00:55:48] I'm sorry. Call it Stephanie and call it like Jonathan. That's four, but it's going to be a 10 person jury. Right. I mean, obviously that's, that's tight. You, you, you, if you go in and you don't necessarily want to be like, okay, there's four votes. I'm not going to have, but I don't see anybody else really voting for a Joe. Like if there are people at the end. Yep. They could split three and three and he wins. Those are four.

[00:56:17] Well, I'm just, I think the only person that prevents that is Sari. And I am a little bit wondering if Sari eventually grabs him because I think that's Sari's best play to have another number is like, let's just do it loyal. And Joe will be like, all right. And they've been working together. Man. Sari's been working with everybody. Well, right. That's Sari gets, I'm praying that Sari gets the end. I am as well.

[00:56:43] But I think what, at first I was worried for the Riz God that was going to be Sari's like downfall, but I actually think it's going to be Ozzy. Right. And we've seen time and time again throughout this season, somebody is coming for Ozzy and Sari takes up. Sari goes to bat for Ozzy. And like, I think some, I think Mike Bloom posted this meme a lot. And like, she's really been protecting him. And I thought it was very telling when Sari and who else was it?

[00:57:13] Was it Emily or was it Tiffany? When they went to Ozzy and they was like, come here, fix your face. Stephanie coming around here with the votes for you. Ozzy went right to Jonathan and spilled the plan. And so it's like, I feel like that did two things for Ozzy. One is like, when you mentioned in my name, I'm going to defend myself. But I also felt like it kind of secures Ozzy and Jonathan.

[00:57:38] Like Jonathan feels like Ozzy meets the cloth eye test. But he's bringing him information. He's like, you know, and so it's like, I could see a world where Jonathan could get into Ozzy's ear. Like you brother, you think it's me and you and Sari.

[00:58:02] Sari like you and I could see Ozzy and say Sari happens to be gone from camp for 20 minutes. You know, Ozzy, sometimes it's hard for him to process things without mother. And so I just say like just seeing him go to Jonathan and literally lay out the plan lets me know like, OK.

[00:58:30] Yeah, but Jonathan did kind of just take a swing and it hasn't bounced back on Jonathan quite yet. But I could see this getting out where Ozzy loses some trust in Jonathan. I don't know. I really think Ozzy is going to ride for Sari. I still think Sari will go at like five or six. Like when she's when she's vulnerable and she's been masterly playing. And then you have like three people that are all sort of like.

[00:58:56] I mean, we just have to get her out, you know, like I think Rizzo would turn on her. Bro, I see her going as soon as I get a clear shot on her and same with Ozzy. OK, I hate to. How soon could that be? That's not like next episode. I don't think. I don't know, man. I think I think. I think it could be as soon as the next. Well, I mean, we only have what, three episodes left. Yeah. We're final nine. Still still fairly early. Yeah.

[00:59:26] Like, I think like an Emily is going to go like next episode. And then I think like maybe Devin's probably soon or after that somewhere. And then you're going to I think the bulk of the people. I think that like Sari, Rizzo, Ozzy, Tiffany group is going to be hanging around at five with like Joe. And I think like Tiffany, Rizzo and Joe. Would vote Alex Sari. I don't know.

[00:59:56] I don't like to think of that. I just like to pretend to see what happens. But if we're talking this week and last week, my God, if Sari gave us a playbook as to how to maneuver, how to handle Survivor. Like this week, Sari was under pressure in the sense of shit kept changing. People kept going. People are coming to her saying to her, you said this and that. And like the way that she never raised her voice.

[01:00:27] The way that she said, well, yeah, they coming to me saying Jack. But I mean, Jack, a survivor. What you think? I'm going to say no. I thought that. I was like, oh, yeah, that's amazing. Because let you cut like let you say Bryce. They said Jack. I'll be like, who said it? Who said it? They like the fact that she just like the fact that the vote continued changing. The fact that like she was like, it's Stephanie. We need to get Stephanie out. Don't make sure.

[01:00:54] It's just like the master class of Sari, Robin, Monique, Lanifia, Katrina, Fields. Like, I mean. It feels like such a deficit in skills from like her to like the next person. It feels like she's running around everybody and everybody like I think Rizzo is doing particularly well. I think Tiffany's doing particularly well.

[01:01:19] But it just feels like there's such a wealth gap in terms of how much better she's maneuvering than they are. It's like it's like LeBron. She's LeBron. It's like she's done it so much. Her knowledge of the game is so sharp. It's like she just things are things go in slow mo for her. She sees the game in slow mo. So Riz is LeBron James. Yeah, because he even branded the people you mentioned that are all I agree are playing like really great games

[01:01:48] are like benefiting from being in her aura. Like, yes, absolutely. They should put her on seasons not as a player, but just to hang around. Like she gets to watch. And then if you want advice, you go get advice. I like it. She's an oracle. Yeah. I recall. I think that she just she has so much to offer. And it's so funny, like Stephanie goes over and is all panicked. And then just to reason they floated it. They floated your name. Like, you're just so, you know, you feel like you lean back.

[01:02:16] Even when the pressure is like put on her, she's like, what am I going to do? Like, say, I'm not doing that. You know, like, yeah. And it's just to think how different things would be if Sari had gone home instead of like Jenna Lewis is like. I'm not saying that's a world I want to live in. It's just like, like everyone is under Sari's spell. If you just dissipate that. And I feel like the game would be a lot more open. Bryce, I know you had other things on the agenda.

[01:02:43] I saw you pull up a picture early on of the survivor auction. Can we talk a little bit of the auction? We can. So glad to see the auction. I love the auction. I was so glad to see something nasty. Like, well, like, well, all we had to eat the word. Oh, I'm still there eating words. So like that would have been. And she loved it. She really took to it.

[01:03:13] Can you also, Bryce, bring up the picture of Sari and that plate that she got? The charcuterie look. Can I say I'll say something. I and I didn't make it to the auction. I would never want this. This is the worst thing you can get at the auction is whatever. I want to. I want a meal. I want a burger. I want a steak. I don't want this. This is like this is. That hits every taste. I was. I see that.

[01:03:41] In prep for the episode, I was thinking, what would I want? And the charcuterie board jumped to mind because I get what you're saying. I'd rather have a burger. That fried chicken looked pretty good. But I'd rather have this than like. A dessert or like mac and cheese. Oh, I try. You get a little bit of everything here. You get some veggies. Not that I love veggies, but you get some protein. You get some. You get a little bit. I don't know. It was a big plate, too. Like you're going to get. I don't know.

[01:04:10] That brings me to just. We'll dive more into the specifics of it. But I'm always curious. Like, what did you guys see or not see that you really would have wanted if you were at this auction? Was there a big burger? I don't think there was a burger. I don't think there was a burger. There was a grilled cheese. That grilled cheese did look good. It did look good. We saw the photo of me and Ozzy. Who bought that? Ozzy.

[01:04:39] Because you saw Ozzy with his face in that cake. He said it reminds me of home. First of all, like, if this is in the hands of the fans, Jeff, because again, Jeff been pissing me off all season. Where was the margarita? I was waiting for the marks. Now that you've made it canon that it's cursed, it seems weird to not have it. You know what I mean?

[01:05:08] Like they said it last time it was cursed. Yeah. I would imagine. I'm pro margarita, especially with the curse. But going straight into a balance challenge after. If I had that marg, I would have been like, come on. Although I guess that's the chaos. That's the chaos. And I was worried with the chaos. And I was glad, like you said, Bryce, that the chaos was just like, okay, you got to eat some bugs, baby. And did they gave them $500? Or did they give them a survivor credit card?

[01:05:37] It was, I think it must have been more. Because people were, people were. Okay. Thank you, Brandon. Because I thought I was tripping. I'm like, how the hell should we get a scootery board, a blanket, toothpaste? Like, how was Ozzy getting cake, splitting the thing with, like, I was like, are y'all just giving this out? There was a lot of items. And not for anything. Joe? Nothing. Didn't get a single thing, Joe. Unless they didn't show it.

[01:06:07] He didn't get a single thing. And I didn't know if I was the only one that noticed it. It's like he just didn't. Maybe they didn't put it in. So I, when we were in D.C., I was walking up to everyone asking them, like, there's always that one person that doesn't spend any money. Because they're waiting for, like, normally you can buy an advantage or something. And so I wonder if that's what it was.

[01:06:34] But is Joe even the type that would be like, I need the advantage? Like, to him, that's, like, shady gameplay. Maybe Joe is, like. Oh, for the letters, I think, that maybe he was waiting. Maybe that, or maybe he was just like. I'm taking this money home. Yeah. He's not playing about his car payment. I'm from around the way. I'm leaving here with something. Same with Tiff. Tiff didn't buy a lot. I'm like, she's not playing about the L.A. rent. Like, she's. Yeah. And I feel it.

[01:07:06] So I said, you're real out here. Do you think that's a real factor? And I'm not saying for Tiff or for Joe or for anyone. But in general. That's a survivor auction. If you're there. And you're hungry. Because obviously, I think on paper, it's like, OK. The sustenance that any of these meals could provide is easily worth these few hundred dollars. If it could even minorly help propel you to a million dollars. Now, two million dollars.

[01:07:34] But do you think in anybody's mind, they're like sandwich for three hundred dollars. No way. I'm keeping this money. Like, is that a. Do you guys think that's a factor for anybody? Like, I don't want to spend my five hundred bucks. But do you get to keep the money? Yeah. You get to keep the money. Really? In one world. Yeah. He wanted shocks for his car, he said. He's like, I'm just going to go buy shocks with this. Which I respect it. Yeah. It's like a weird.

[01:08:03] Because obviously, like, if you could get a meal that maybe gets you a challenge win. Or just like helps your clear your mind. It's like, that's so worth the five hundred or less or fewer dollars that, you know, relative to a potential million. But I wonder if people are just there like, I want a new PS5. Like, I'm just going to take this home. But if you're safe. I mean, there weren't a lot of eyes on Joe. Joe's chilling. But the meals. Although granted, they're eating like every other every day now.

[01:08:32] Like they got rice yesterday. Yeah. Joe's just like, I'm full. I'm good. The thing that I really that they've had before that I really always I always thought would be the thing I would want is breakfast. You get a little pancake, a little bacon, a little egg. That's what I want. That's what I want every day. A nice CZ. Oh, a crisp. A crisp CZ. Oh, my God. And he's really good at 7 a.m. This season.

[01:09:00] They do breakfast sometimes on Survivor. They do what? They serve breakfast sometimes. Well, at Ponderosa. We haven't been there, Wendell. None of us have been there. None of us got to taste it. Did you have final three or final four breakfast? Final three. Final three. And how did it taste on winners at war? Got it. Okay. You in the same boat as me and Brandon. Okay.

[01:09:29] We don't know no breakfast. Okay. Also, not to rag on Joe, because it generally was a wholesome thing. What? Wendell's so fucking on him. But I was like, and it genuinely was a wholesome moment. But when Aubrey was like, this mac and cheese reminds me of home. And then Joe was like, it reminds me of the smell of my daughter when she drops ketchup on the floor. I was like, what does that even mean?

[01:09:58] Listen, Joe and Dad. Okay. But I was also like, is this ketchup going with her mac and cheese? Because that's just a crazy move. Some people do. Some people do. No, I'm doing that. Yeah. That's what I was going to say. I'm sure Boy in Blue would eat mac and cheese. With ketchup? Yeah. I've seen people do that. Barbecue sauce? Jack, stop acting up because you got your brother in the blue with you today. You know, I'd go a little buffalo on there.

[01:10:28] You know, me, buffalo mac and cheese, bring that to Thanksgiving. Well, okay. You could do a Caribbean pepper sauce too. A pepper sauce goes hard on mac and cheese. Oh, 100%. I could perry perry on my mac and cheese. But ketchup. No ketchup. No. I'm kidding. Because Brandon, we here, we've learned how Jack makes his macaroni and cheese. How, what, describe the macaroni and cheese that you were eating that you put the ketchup on. Oh.

[01:10:56] I'm doing, you guys got to get on this. There's a brand of mac and cheese. It's in a box. Goodles. You guys doing Goodles? You know about Goodles? Describe it. Like, how you make, continue. Oh, I mean, I'm doing, I'm doing what the box says. I'm not doing anything fancy with it. All right, y'all. So, Brandon Hansico. He ain't passed the vibe check. Okay. What am I supposed to be doing with it? Wait, but what's the, so you're just making it like the boxes and then you're putting ketchup on it? That's your song? Yeah.

[01:11:26] It's smoked mac and cheese. I'll get a little, sometimes I get a little grilled chicken. Throw it in there and a little ketchup. Like pasta. That sounds good, actually. That sounds like a, what you call it? A casserole. Which? Which? Well, listen, I ain't mad at, listen. One thing, one thing, my older white woman, like supervisor, my first job, she was like 72.

[01:11:56] I never really wanted to eat none of her food, but we did like a potluck. One thing she put me onto, a breakfast quiche. Ooh, baby! A breakfast quiche with some sausage. Oh, man. Yeah. But Jack. That's the food of our people.

[01:12:24] If a breakfast quiche had popped up, Joe would have gone 500. But Jack. Put a couple of raisins in there. For flavor. You got the raisins in for some flavor. A little ketchup. No seasoning. What were you going to ask, Bryce? Sorry.

[01:12:50] Tell your brother how you make your mac and cheese. So, I haven't even made it like this before, but I think we were, it was a Thanksgiving episode that we were doing. And they asked me, what would I bring to the Thanksgiving? And I said, look, I'm not a chef, but you get a little mac and cheese, you put it in a baking tray, you get some cheese on there, and then you put some like buffalo chicken in there. You get like a nice buffalo chicken mac and cheese. And they thought that was crazy.

[01:13:19] And maybe some breadcrumbs on top. Yeah. And they thought that. Y'all are really diverting from the mac and cheese. Well, when, when easy. I'm talking mac and cheese. This is, that's a buffalo chicken and mac and cheese. Like, this is a casserole. Nah. If you go to Wawa and you order on the street, they'll get you put chicken in it. They'll get you put some chicken in it.

[01:13:47] And that's, when we left, Wendell, when me and Bryce left that thing the other day at Drexel University, my first stop was at the Drexel University Wawa. And I got a fat mac and cheese. What do you think they are? Ketchup? Here's the thing, Wendell. Wendell, you might have aged out of the mac and cheese game because now you and Wendell are probably making the box, you know, the SpongeBob mac and cheese. Which is fire, but it's a different, it's a different avenue.

[01:14:18] I'm not even going to go because that's a sensitive subject for me, Jack. Because Wendell's son loves some macaroni and cheese at all times of the day. And it pisses me off. It pisses me off when I go over there and he's eating, it's seven o'clock in the morning. You want some local breakfast? No! That's not breakfast! But I'll have a bite, but... You got some ketchup?

[01:14:47] And I would say, when it's a dog too, to the mac and cheese, something about the little character shapes and the way the cheese kind of falls through those and distributes itself. You get a little texture on the tongue. I mean, there's something nice about the SpongeBob mac and cheese because to me a lot of times, the shells, they carry a little too much cheese in the shells. Oh, I'll get trapped in there. It gets a little trapped because I'm more about the mac than the cheese. Oh. Mm-hmm. But that's, you know, and that's all I got to say about that. Okay.

[01:15:17] It tastes like... Bryce, how do you like your mac and cheese? I feel like everyone jumped in. Well, first of all, it's multiple cheeses. I need some gouda. I need some cheddar. I need some Velveeta. I chop them up into little cubes. Okay. I make me a cheese roux with some condensed milk. I don't use egg. Mix my cheese together. Get my noodles. I make my noodles al dente. Don't cook them all the way. Butter my pan.

[01:15:46] Put a little of my pasta. Then I do the cheese, then the pasta, then the cheese and the pasta. Then I take some of my leftover cheese that I have, grate it up, put it on the top, put some sticks of butter on it, put foil on it, put it in the oven, 375 for about maybe two hours, the last 30 minutes. Take it out. Turn the oven up a little higher. Take the foil off. Put it back in. Let the cheese won't get crushy.

[01:16:13] And listen, the test of the test is when you dip that first spoon into the macaroni and cheese, if it don't sound like you dipping in me, then y'all don't want it. Like you dipping in what? You heard what I said. Like, if it don't sound like you dipping it in me, then I don't want it. Brandon ain't never coming back. Brandon is going to get on the phone with Rob.

[01:16:41] I don't know what you are sanctioning over there. I'm the happiest I've ever been. Do you put any sort of skipping over the other bits you said? Do you put any sort of like saw any sort of hot sauce? Jack, my macaroni and cheese needs nothing. I will season my roux a little bit, a little salt, pepper, maybe some just tad bit of Lowry's, maybe even a little honey, but like, yeah, my macaroni and cheese is fire.

[01:17:10] That does sound good. That sounds really good. You used some protein. Yeah, we're reminding Aubrey too much at home with all this mac and cheese talk. But any other notable standout moments from the episode? Tiffany. Tiffany. Tiffany. She has stayed low. They tried to cut her. We haven't seen much of her, but we see that she's loyal.

[01:17:38] We see that she's rocking who she's rocking with. And she has shown us she is a formidable threat. If it wasn't last week, she was in the final three. This week, she's in the final three. And I really feel like she going to make some shape. Like she is. Y'all don't want to add me to nothing. I'm going to put myself there. So I was extremely excited. When she won the whole DC crowd, they were so excited.

[01:18:07] Like I could have shed a tear. I love Tiffany so much. Like that win was for everybody. There was another huge cheer in DC at a later point in the episode. But the first huge cheer in DC was for Tiffany. People were loving that. Yeah. Yeah. She's been cooking in the challenges. Got to win. And I feel like after losing, because a lot of her pre-merge, I felt like her people were like D and Camilla.

[01:18:37] And she gets left out of the first merge vote. And since then, she's really just like recalibrated her game, found some new people with Sari and with Joe. And I'm sure some more relationships that we haven't seen. And Aubrey, I feel like they've got a good spot. So, I mean, she's in a great spot. She's not really on anyone's radar. Like I think she's going to be able to make some things shake and hopefully get to the end game position where she can make a couple moves and find herself in a really favorable final three. But it seems like even like in the challenge, everyone was like rooting for her.

[01:19:06] Like people love her. So, she's in a great spot. As her people got picked off, like Bryce said, she got low. She figured it out and she found her way in. Whereas like Rick, they got rid of Christian. Rick is turning up, you know? So, there are various ways to do it. And it seems like Tiff is like this silent assassin. Listen, I love watching this game.

[01:19:34] I love this version of Tiffany. Her first season, she had that chaotic tribe. Jelinski, Banu, Q. This was her tribe. This season, it's like, you know what? You can find your gamers. All right, they get picked off. You're still finding your game. I love watching her play. Yeah, she is really a testament to it. She's one of the only New Era people that came in without this like legacy or legendary air to her.

[01:20:02] And this is the testament for having another returning season of people that kind of went out around the same time and didn't get a chance to solidify themselves as like a great survivor. Because Tiffany, wherever she plays, is going to be somebody that we all remember because she was a part of this monumental season with your Ceres and your Aussies and your what have you. So I hope we get another one pretty soon. Yeah, I was confused because we went we drove up to Washington, D.C. and we drove back.

[01:20:30] But I was confused as to why like Eliza Orland was trending on Twitter last night. So me. I don't know. I was asking. You could from New York, you could hear the fireworks from her apartment, wherever that is. She really. I thought it was the 4th of July. I seen it, Brandon. I'm like, what's going on? What happened? They were loud. She's thrilled. Nobody more thrilled than her this morning.

[01:20:57] And she's she's telling you, if you look at her social media, she's talking about it. She's very happy. I'm sure. I'm sure. Biggest Mr. Beast fan in the game. That's why. Yeah. She she. The Eliza Stephanie beef is something to be studied. But. What I will say is early on in the season, when she like, you know, they had their tiff, what, like a year ago or whenever it was like right when Stephanie got off or something.

[01:21:26] And Stephanie saw the tweets and like came at her and, you know, we saw that video. And then it seemed like Eliza got low for a minute. And then the day before the season airs goes in on Stephanie and me and Bryce, you know, we talk candidly. We're like, yo, maybe Eliza has news that we don't have.

[01:21:50] Maybe Eliza knows that Stephanie's the winner and she was holding it to just really ruin this moment for her. I mean, she did a lot to that moment. And now we see that Stephanie's not the winner. But my goodness. Yeah. That a lot of Stephanie stuff is. I'm curious. Has there ever been another beef where you're just on neither person's side?

[01:22:20] Say anything else come to mind. When they go low, we go high. I've always said, you know what I mean? Do any of y'all follow a Fruity Island, the watch party? Oh, yeah. That clip that they posted is forever ingrained in my head. I love gay people. What? That was a line of dialogue in the Stephanie. It was it was further towards the back half of the three minutes.

[01:22:49] But I love gay people was was verbalized by her loudly. Followed by a but. I'm kidding. We gotta go. We gotta go. Let's keep it moving. Shout out to Stephanie. Shout out to Eliza. Let's keep it moving. Jack, what else you got? That's that's about it right now. I don't know. I'm going to get in trouble.

[01:23:19] Well, listen, the season is for sure heating up. Season 50, episode 10. And. Over here on Survivor News, Brandon. Jack runs a strict program, OK? And tidiness and timeness is very important. OK? Jack, I'm smelling the spring break. OK? OK.

[01:23:49] What do you mean? I'm just smelling the spring break. OK, because I didn't have this conversation multiple times. I was getting a haircut. My my barbershop is in a bad service. I texted you. And it didn't go through. So I texted you at 340. It didn't go through. Brandon. No, I texted you at 340. I said, hey, Bryce, the barber, the haircut is running a little late.

[01:24:19] You got to get me right. I'll run a little late. Brandon, what time you get the link? Hey, it's all good. You know, it's listen. We're all having. We had this. We are. But, you know, sometimes you ask. I mean, the audience isn't even going to notice when Wendell is. I'm going to take my own spring break. You know what I'm doing? I'm just saying, Posse. I think we might have to spring break them.

[01:24:45] Well, we had we had Jimmy and Brandon Donlan in our presence to help fill in. So that was all good. Very much so. Well, Brandon, we love and appreciate you. Wendell, DZ. Jack is always a great time. We'll be in Austin next week. The pin ultimate episode will be in Chicago, New York. We will be at the karaoke that Tuesday. And on Wednesday, we have the finale in New York. Click the link in our bio. And we'll be back next week.

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