Purple Pants Podcast | Q’s World!
Survivor 46 RHAPApril 19, 20241:28:59

Purple Pants Podcast | Q’s World!

The baby boys are back for this week's edition of Survivor News! Brice welcomes Netflix: The Circle Season 2 Contestant @JackAtkins21 & Survivor: Ghost Island Winner @WendellHolland and #BB25’s Izzy Gleicher (@isabellepantogleicher) to help break down #Survivor46 episode Eight ! Brice, Wendell, Jack, and Izzy share their thoughts on the challenge, Q’s way, the plus one alliance, tribal and so much more and so much more.

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[00:00:29] Survivor News Edition, Episode 379 Cues Way.

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[00:00:37] Bryce Isaiah, and I thank you so much

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[00:01:13] We are coming off of the hills

[00:01:16] of such a chaotic tribal and entertaining episode.

[00:01:21] So I am so excited to be here with the baby boy,

[00:01:24] Jack Atkins and Wendell Holland.

[00:01:26] And we have our big brother friend Izzy

[00:01:30] from Big Brother Season 25.

[00:01:31] We are all here to break down everything that happened.

[00:01:36] It is so much that happened.

[00:01:37] I have such high energy.

[00:01:39] It's really giving.

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[00:02:09] And we are back this week, not Q's way, but my way.

[00:02:18] We are back this week with Survivor News and an epic episode to get through.

[00:02:23] And I feel like an epic episode deserves an epic panel.

[00:02:27] Let's welcome back to the podcast, the first mate of the Survivor News ship, Jackery

[00:02:32] Ackens.

[00:02:33] You might know him from Season 2 of The Circle and also Season 6 has just aired

[00:02:37] this week.

[00:02:38] So Jackery open chat.

[00:02:40] Welcome to the podcast, Sunshad.

[00:02:42] Thank you, Bryce.

[00:02:43] Man, I'm so excited.

[00:02:45] This was a great episode and I've got some new, I'm trying to add a new outfit for this

[00:02:50] episode because you know I'm trapped up in my queue.

[00:02:55] Hi!

[00:02:56] I stopped my camera.

[00:02:57] How do I log off?

[00:02:59] Oh my God.

[00:03:01] You got...

[00:03:03] Oh no, don't show the under bit.

[00:03:07] I don't even know how to wear the queue skirt, but I'm wearing it.

[00:03:10] I mean, it's next...

[00:03:14] Go ahead, Bryce.

[00:03:15] Oh no, because I was going to say I believe the exact quote from Q was, if you're a guy

[00:03:22] and you want a little bit of swag, you better get you a Q skirt.

[00:03:28] Okay.

[00:03:30] Jack, I thought the hood was supposed to face outwards.

[00:03:33] It's the QJ.

[00:03:34] So if you want the two pockets, you got to face it in front.

[00:03:38] You got to have it in the front so you get your pockets here and then you know if you

[00:03:42] got like an idol, you tuck it up in here, fold it over.

[00:03:46] Oh.

[00:03:47] You talking about tucking already?

[00:03:48] Oh.

[00:03:49] That's so strange, Jack.

[00:03:51] The way I did it was...

[00:03:53] Oh my God.

[00:03:56] I had one in the front.

[00:03:58] Oh my God.

[00:03:59] I just tuck my idol.

[00:04:00] Oh.

[00:04:01] You know, just I got my beard brush.

[00:04:03] You just tuck it in there and you keep it moving.

[00:04:06] Is that an idol or is he happy to see?

[00:04:09] I'm not happy to see any of it.

[00:04:12] Well, rocking his Q skirt, he is clearly a guy and once a little bit of swag, let's

[00:04:19] welcome back to the Purple Pants podcast.

[00:04:21] You may recognize him from the upcoming season of The Goat or more recognizably

[00:04:27] known as the first merge boot at Winners at War, Wendyzy.

[00:04:31] I'm here and I hope you all notice my lavender shirt to honor my man Q.

[00:04:38] Thank you very much.

[00:04:40] Okay.

[00:04:41] And listen, last but certainly not least, if you have ever been in an orchestra,

[00:04:45] you know the flute is one of the most important things of the percussions.

[00:04:51] Is it a percussion?

[00:04:53] It's a...

[00:04:54] Okay.

[00:04:55] The opposite of a percussion is a flute.

[00:04:57] You may recognize this person from Big Brother 25, but more importantly,

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[00:05:05] Let's welcome Izzy to the podcast.

[00:05:08] Thank you.

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[00:05:10] My condolences to all that watched Big Brother 25.

[00:05:12] Thank you.

[00:05:14] Izzy, you're a legend.

[00:05:15] You are robbed, okay?

[00:05:17] And speaking of robbed, we have a lot to get through in this episode,

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[00:06:09] started off a little slow, but we go in a Q way and we're going all

[00:06:14] the way in.

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[00:07:14] We got all of that out the way.

[00:07:16] Jack, the first mate of the survivor news, kick it off us.

[00:07:21] What you got?

[00:07:22] What you got?

[00:07:23] You know, usually I love to go kind of chronological or close

[00:07:28] to that, but how do we not kick this off just getting into

[00:07:33] the meat and potatoes as Bryce likes to call them?

[00:07:37] I feel like guys, we just jump right into that tribal and

[00:07:41] then kind of backtrack from there.

[00:07:43] Well, yes, because also the edit like also because like

[00:07:46] actually what happened that tried everything about the

[00:07:48] editing about hide and seek being all important didn't even

[00:07:50] come into play at tribal.

[00:07:52] So it's like, it sucked, you know, like, yes, let's jump in

[00:07:55] the tribal.

[00:07:57] I think hide and seek did come into play, but not at

[00:08:01] tribal, but it did like, I, I, okay, this is how

[00:08:07] tribal left me.

[00:08:09] But I did think just going into hide and seek real quick,

[00:08:13] right?

[00:08:14] Q, right?

[00:08:15] Q is the master of going one way like say Izzy, we drive

[00:08:21] it down the street and I'm like Izzy, I got the map, I've

[00:08:26] got the map quest, make a laugh Izzy.

[00:08:29] Make a right Izzy.

[00:08:32] All of a sudden Izzy like, we lost and then we

[00:08:35] magically arrived there and Q like, well, I know we

[00:08:39] was going to get there.

[00:08:40] I took a shortcut.

[00:08:41] Like Q is just the master of illusion.

[00:08:45] And it's like if you are bored out there Q, if you

[00:08:49] miss your wife, if you miss your family and you want

[00:08:51] to play a game, just say that right?

[00:08:53] I feel like Q was like let's play a game.

[00:08:55] And then in the middle of the game he like, oh,

[00:08:58] mistake number one, you got Izzy on the

[00:09:01] podcast.

[00:09:02] Mistake number two, Jack, you didn't mess up now.

[00:09:06] Like I just feel like.

[00:09:08] Well everything's like a test but no one knows they're

[00:09:11] being tested and I feel like ultimately like the

[00:09:13] biggest issue with this season so far is like everyone

[00:09:16] has just like heard the buzzword that they shouldn't

[00:09:19] trust anyone, that no one's trusting anyone.

[00:09:22] And so then like everything's like a mess.

[00:09:24] Like the only people that maybe actually trust each

[00:09:26] other are Kenzie and Tiffany and Maria and Charlie

[00:09:30] and maybe Hunter and Tevin, but like now Tevin's

[00:09:33] gone.

[00:09:34] So like Q why are you also trying to test Tiffany?

[00:09:38] That's your girl, that's your number one, what is

[00:09:40] going on?

[00:09:41] And also Tiffany is seemingly the smartest, most

[00:09:44] rational person on the beach so I don't know why

[00:09:46] you wouldn't want to work with her because you're

[00:09:48] a mess.

[00:09:49] You're like the most emotional ego driven player

[00:09:51] that's ever existed.

[00:09:53] Like it's awful.

[00:09:54] It's like yeah, it's driving me nuts.

[00:09:56] I won't vote again about so quick at that

[00:09:58] tribal.

[00:09:59] I would have been like so we're voting his ass out,

[00:10:01] right?

[00:10:02] Like get him out of here.

[00:10:03] Like I don't understand.

[00:10:04] Yeah.

[00:10:05] He's a genius.

[00:10:06] Is he though?

[00:10:07] But see I, or is he just a genius after the fact?

[00:10:12] You know he's so much of, we all know those

[00:10:14] confessionals happened after the shit on here.

[00:10:17] He's still on the island.

[00:10:19] Listen, I threw cockledoodle zoom.

[00:10:22] No I didn't mother fuckers.

[00:10:24] It's like come on.

[00:10:25] But see here's my thing.

[00:10:26] I feel like Hugh is a magician, right?

[00:10:28] Like we know magic doesn't really exist.

[00:10:32] But when the old creepy guy is like, oh,

[00:10:36] that's a quarter.

[00:10:37] I'm like, where did that quarter come from?

[00:10:40] Right.

[00:10:41] Because here's like I again some of my questions

[00:10:44] Izzy are just like window might a one survivor.

[00:10:47] But Jack is the survivor on my neck and like his

[00:10:49] opinion is the only opinion that really matters

[00:10:51] to me.

[00:10:52] And it's like for me Jack, I really like.

[00:10:55] I have to say this episode gave me a lot of respect

[00:10:58] for Q, right?

[00:10:59] Because I feel like Q doesn't realize the power that he has

[00:11:05] because he essentially shifted the whole course of

[00:11:10] this season.

[00:11:12] Like I really feel like say pause on soda going home

[00:11:17] and we getting right back to tribal, right?

[00:11:19] If we pause or getting right back to camp if we

[00:11:21] pause it right there, right?

[00:11:23] I really feel like out of the 10 somebody was going to

[00:11:26] win, right?

[00:11:27] I really feel like after what Q did that person is no

[00:11:31] longer going to win.

[00:11:32] And someone else is now illuminated.

[00:11:34] Like I really feel like what Q did was he shifted

[00:11:39] course, right?

[00:11:40] He shifted the course is epic and smart.

[00:11:42] But it's like, I don't know if he intended to do

[00:11:44] that, but now that he did it, he like, I did it.

[00:11:47] That's what I meant to do.

[00:11:48] And that's what's supposed to happen.

[00:11:49] Are you talking about right when they get back to camp

[00:11:52] or we're talking about this tribal where he does all

[00:11:54] that?

[00:11:55] I'm just saying in general, like if we pause this episode

[00:11:57] soon as they got back to camp, right?

[00:11:59] I feel like out of the 10 somebody was going to win,

[00:12:01] right?

[00:12:02] Like right after the soda vote, like immediate, like right

[00:12:04] after the soda vote.

[00:12:05] Yes, yes, right.

[00:12:07] Where it's like there was a winner, but I feel like

[00:12:10] after what Q did that initial winner is no longer

[00:12:13] the winner and now it's going to someone else

[00:12:16] because he has completely shifted the game.

[00:12:18] And it's like he willed so much power.

[00:12:22] But I also feel like,

[00:12:24] like in the way that he wields it is so like my God.

[00:12:29] Don't you think that it's like less that he's this like

[00:12:33] maniacal genius and actually just like that people are

[00:12:36] like a little scared or hesitant to take the big,

[00:12:39] like, like there was like just a massive opportunity for them

[00:12:42] to settle down.

[00:12:43] Like he might have changed the course of the game,

[00:12:46] but were people really scared that by voting out Q suddenly

[00:12:49] they don't have an end game like girl restart.

[00:12:52] He's a mess.

[00:12:53] Like you can't trust anything he said.

[00:12:55] Tiffany, you're really not going to push for Q at that

[00:12:58] tribal after finding out that he told everyone about your

[00:13:00] idol and putting your, your names out there.

[00:13:02] I don't know.

[00:13:03] It's like,

[00:13:04] he was a number for a lot of people though in all 47

[00:13:07] of the alliances that he was in and restructured.

[00:13:10] He was a number for all 47 of those.

[00:13:13] I don't know.

[00:13:14] Yeah, but an unreliable one that doesn't care about what anyone

[00:13:17] else thinks he's on.

[00:13:19] I'd say the beauty of it.

[00:13:21] Right?

[00:13:22] Like again,

[00:13:23] I'm not saying that he has shaped the game in a way that he

[00:13:25] going to win.

[00:13:26] I'm just saying he has shaped.

[00:13:27] And it's interesting, right?

[00:13:29] Because it's like if there were a little more thought behind

[00:13:33] it, like him using this power for me,

[00:13:35] I felt like seeing Maria and Charlie kind of be like,

[00:13:38] I don't know what the hell is going on them being the

[00:13:41] most logical and methodical players that we have.

[00:13:44] The fact that he is able to have them in a world when there

[00:13:47] is a world that I think that that is like so smart.

[00:13:51] Is it good for your own game?

[00:13:53] No, but I don't know.

[00:13:55] I just feel like there needs to be a course study on Q

[00:13:59] and how he moves through the game.

[00:14:01] I think he has people shook in that as if someone says his

[00:14:05] name, who knows what's going to happen.

[00:14:11] I would have been like Q,

[00:14:13] I want to give you what you want.

[00:14:15] They were like, I don't want Q to be mad at Q.

[00:14:20] So I think,

[00:14:22] No, keep going.

[00:14:23] I'm sorry.

[00:14:24] I'm all fired up.

[00:14:25] It's three against one.

[00:14:26] I can feel it and I'm never,

[00:14:27] I'm not backing down on this one.

[00:14:29] I like those.

[00:14:30] Now I just think,

[00:14:31] I think Q is,

[00:14:32] I think he's great TV.

[00:14:33] I think he's playing really well.

[00:14:35] I think he's playing really well.

[00:14:36] I think he's playing really well.

[00:14:37] I think he's great TV.

[00:14:39] I think he's playing really, really hard.

[00:14:41] I think he,

[00:14:42] I think he does have a little,

[00:14:44] a revisited history or a little Monday morning quarterbacking

[00:14:46] when it comes to,

[00:14:48] Hey, whatever happened,

[00:14:49] this thing turned out and he's still on the beach.

[00:14:51] So he's going to find a story to tell you that,

[00:14:53] that in his head, it's like,

[00:14:55] this was all purposeful and I love it.

[00:14:58] I love watching him and I'd like for him to stay on the

[00:15:01] beach a lot longer.

[00:15:02] Yes.

[00:15:03] So, okay.

[00:15:04] Izzy, I don't think it's three versus one.

[00:15:06] I'm even shy.

[00:15:07] I'm so just like flabbergasted by this,

[00:15:11] by Q and this whole episode in an amazing way.

[00:15:15] I don't,

[00:15:16] I feel like I don't know if we've ever seen someone like Q

[00:15:19] who is at the center of everything.

[00:15:23] And I feel like not only do we have no idea what

[00:15:27] he was cooking up.

[00:15:28] I don't think Q has any idea what he's cooking up either,

[00:15:32] but somehow it is like the main narrative that we're getting

[00:15:35] and it's just so confusing.

[00:15:38] Izzy, I'm absolutely with you that I think,

[00:15:40] unless you're really locked in,

[00:15:42] locked in with Q,

[00:15:43] if you're at final 10 and someone wants to go home,

[00:15:46] like Tevin said, he's a grown man.

[00:15:48] Like if you want to leave, leave.

[00:15:50] Like I'm not going to fight to keep someone else in the game.

[00:15:53] Oh, I mean dollars.

[00:15:54] Like that's, I get it.

[00:15:56] If you have like a crucial vote and you need Q,

[00:15:58] that's fine.

[00:15:59] But if you're planning an eight to two vote on Tevin and

[00:16:03] Q is that eighth vote, then I think you could just cut Q

[00:16:06] and maybe you get Tevin next time or maybe you readjust the

[00:16:09] next time.

[00:16:10] But it is absolutely insane.

[00:16:12] I don't think Q, I don't think Q is a good player at all,

[00:16:15] but there is something that he's doing that there's like a

[00:16:17] method to the madness that is working in a weird way.

[00:16:20] Like Bryce said, I don't think he's going to win,

[00:16:23] but my God, it is really fun to watch.

[00:16:26] And it's just like,

[00:16:27] I thought it was,

[00:16:28] I thought it was interesting at tribal once they finally,

[00:16:31] when Tiffany was like, can we talk?

[00:16:33] You know, they always separated.

[00:16:35] I thought it was interesting.

[00:16:36] And of course you don't get to see everything.

[00:16:38] So I'm curious what was left out,

[00:16:40] but I felt like the little mini conversations were ultimately

[00:16:43] like everyone was just so bewildered instead of seeing what

[00:16:46] happened at tribal as an opportunity,

[00:16:48] as an opportunity that like was handed to everyone on a

[00:16:51] silver platter.

[00:16:52] And he said everyone was just like either too scared or

[00:16:55] like didn't have the foresight to and,

[00:16:58] and so everyone was just like, uh, I'm confused.

[00:17:01] So like we should just do the plan we said, right?

[00:17:04] Cause I'm scared to do anything different.

[00:17:07] And so I thought that was like,

[00:17:08] I was disappointed in the other nine at that moment,

[00:17:11] even if Q wasn't the one to go home, I'll give you that.

[00:17:14] But just using that as an opportunity to be like,

[00:17:17] maybe the slate is blank right now.

[00:17:19] What do we do with this?

[00:17:20] That would actually be good.

[00:17:21] You know,

[00:17:22] I got three things to say that man.

[00:17:24] Um,

[00:17:25] I think that's why I'm so excited to be able to talk about

[00:17:28] this.

[00:17:29] I mean,

[00:17:30] I think that's the thing that's really important to make sure

[00:17:33] that you guys are getting the right feedback.

[00:17:35] So,

[00:17:36] you know,

[00:17:37] I feel like a lot of times your opinion is not changed at

[00:17:40] tribal council.

[00:17:41] Right?

[00:17:42] So I'm going to say that,

[00:17:43] I'm going to say that to you as, as the one,

[00:17:45] well, Jackson non-survivor also,

[00:17:47] but like as the one like people generally speaking,

[00:17:50] they go into tribal and like,

[00:17:52] you'll try to pull a rabbit out of a hat,

[00:17:54] you know,

[00:17:55] but I think that's the one thing that's important to make sure

[00:17:58] that you guys are getting the right feedback.

[00:18:00] So,

[00:18:01] I'm going to say that it's a Q at the end or Tevin.

[00:18:04] Either one,

[00:18:05] I think anyone could window anyone can sit next to anyone at

[00:18:08] the end and win the game.

[00:18:09] You know, like, I don't, I don't think.

[00:18:11] I'm going to sit next to you.

[00:18:12] I'm going to sit next,

[00:18:13] but hold on.

[00:18:14] That's my second of three points.

[00:18:16] Yeah.

[00:18:17] Go ahead.

[00:18:18] And my last point is,

[00:18:20] I believe Q is a Tony and Kagan.

[00:18:22] He really is though.

[00:18:23] And here's the thing though, right?

[00:18:25] To your question,

[00:18:26] Wendell,

[00:18:27] when I write this next to a Q or Tevin,

[00:18:30] I have seen survivor seasons where if a Q gets to the end,

[00:18:34] although people again,

[00:18:36] similar to Tony and Kagan,

[00:18:38] although people might be like, what the hell they might.

[00:18:41] And again,

[00:18:42] because you know,

[00:18:43] Q was going to sit up there and say everything that I did.

[00:18:46] He did.

[00:18:48] So I like that's actually,

[00:18:50] I don't know if that's such a black and white question that

[00:18:54] you're asking Wendell because yeah,

[00:18:57] like, I don't know.

[00:18:59] Also,

[00:19:00] I just wanted to say after the episode aired,

[00:19:03] Q took to his Instagram and posted first of all,

[00:19:07] the challenge from last week with the caption curveball.

[00:19:12] And then he said,

[00:19:14] Oh yeah.

[00:19:15] With the caption curveball.

[00:19:23] Did you throw a curveball or were you aiming to hit the picture

[00:19:27] and it curved?

[00:19:33] I keep thinking about Q too.

[00:19:35] He, this like,

[00:19:37] he's,

[00:19:38] he needs to like be in such control that I think this idea

[00:19:42] of him wanting to quit was, okay,

[00:19:45] he's not in control of his vote.

[00:19:47] What's the one thing he can control is to say,

[00:19:50] I vote me out and then you go out and you're like,

[00:19:52] Oh,

[00:19:53] not to,

[00:19:54] not to project on what would have happened,

[00:19:56] but it would be the type of thing.

[00:19:57] And I feel like I've seen it before where it's like,

[00:19:59] yeah,

[00:20:00] I probably was going to win,

[00:20:01] but like I messed up.

[00:20:02] I did,

[00:20:03] I did them wrong.

[00:20:04] So I said, hey, vote me out.

[00:20:05] So like,

[00:20:06] and then you feel like you're the man.

[00:20:07] And in reality it's like,

[00:20:09] you're just quitter, but

[00:20:11] it's a question.

[00:20:12] Jalinsky's exit.

[00:20:16] I believe that Q was like, oh man,

[00:20:19] this is going to be hard.

[00:20:20] Should we stop?

[00:20:21] Like, I just believe it.

[00:20:22] I see it.

[00:20:23] He's the type that like doesn't,

[00:20:25] it's like, you know,

[00:20:26] he doesn't want to show,

[00:20:27] he's like so macho,

[00:20:28] so ego driven that like,

[00:20:30] he doesn't want to show that he's tried really,

[00:20:33] really, really, really hard.

[00:20:34] He didn't try in that poll in the challenge.

[00:20:36] He didn't try at all.

[00:20:37] And he doesn't want to show that he might reach a limit.

[00:20:39] He wants to keep people thinking that he has no limit when

[00:20:42] really it's like, he's scared.

[00:20:44] He's intimidated and he's just using his like size and the

[00:20:48] sort of like, I don't know, like,

[00:20:50] he's well.

[00:20:51] Yeah.

[00:20:52] He's like using it to his advantage and people are scared of

[00:20:55] it of course because you're always scared in these games of

[00:20:57] the loudest voice, right?

[00:20:59] Like the loudest voice wields some power,

[00:21:02] enough power to make people scared.

[00:21:04] And I think enough people are scared.

[00:21:06] I don't know.

[00:21:07] I got, I got sorry to cut you off, right?

[00:21:10] One, it's like, you know,

[00:21:13] scare me with the size Q scare me.

[00:21:16] But two things, right?

[00:21:18] Cause I want to bring it back to Jalinsky justice for

[00:21:23] Jalinsky.

[00:21:24] I really like I am a detective and my and I work for

[00:21:31] the survivor news police department and I am issuing a

[00:21:38] warrant for Q's arrest.

[00:21:40] He is a serial killer, right?

[00:21:44] Listen to me.

[00:21:45] He's a serial killer, but we didn't know his first victim

[00:21:49] was Jalinsky and he was like, I don't know.

[00:21:52] I woke up and Jalinsky was dead and like we believed it.

[00:21:56] We was like, oh my God,

[00:21:57] we got a killer on the loose.

[00:21:59] And then time and time again,

[00:22:02] we have seen these killings with the same MO.

[00:22:06] And it's like you like, I don't know.

[00:22:09] He was, I got the knife in my hand and he got a stab there.

[00:22:13] I don't, he just fell into the knife.

[00:22:15] And like again, we have seen it time again.

[00:22:18] And here with the Tiffany thing is like he tried to,

[00:22:24] he had the knife, but Tiffany dies.

[00:22:27] Like Q is a serial killer and Jalinsky was his first victim,

[00:22:32] but we didn't have enough evidence.

[00:22:34] Me as the detective chief of the survivor news,

[00:22:38] I am issuing Q, I am issuing a warrant for Q.

[00:22:43] Okay.

[00:22:44] Hey, somebody come get him because like we've seen this time

[00:22:50] and time again.

[00:22:51] And it's like, wow, but here is the thing though, right?

[00:22:55] This episode in my opinion, right?

[00:22:57] I've been looking at Q this whole thing like what are you doing?

[00:23:01] This episode, I took a step back and I was like,

[00:23:04] one Q is great.

[00:23:06] Like Q is great.

[00:23:08] If we could get him for the rest of the season, please.

[00:23:11] Because, but I don't know.

[00:23:13] There is weirdly some type of like,

[00:23:17] I want to tip my head off to Q a little bit, right?

[00:23:20] Because it's like in your crazy chaos is somehow to this point,

[00:23:25] like you're still here.

[00:23:26] And my second point is,

[00:23:28] I know that ain't really make a lot of sense, but last season,

[00:23:31] we had Hannah, we had,

[00:23:34] who was the other person that quit last season?

[00:23:36] Sean, what I am confused about,

[00:23:39] and this is where I need Jackery to weigh in because I think

[00:23:43] Sean had a or Hannah wanted to leave because other people

[00:23:47] wanted to be there before her.

[00:23:49] Oh, if you quit all survival, you're done.

[00:23:52] You're done.

[00:23:54] Where is that same energy for Q?

[00:23:57] Because that's just, I'm just double standard.

[00:24:01] Right.

[00:24:02] Loud enough. He's loud enough.

[00:24:03] He's macho and I don't know.

[00:24:05] It came for Hannah and y'all came for Sean like nobody's

[00:24:08] business.

[00:24:09] And I feel like with Sean, they, he, they voted him out.

[00:24:14] Like, I'm,

[00:24:15] right. It's part of Q's plan, Bryce.

[00:24:18] He was not trying to go home.

[00:24:20] I guarantee you there will be a confessional on Wednesday about

[00:24:24] it.

[00:24:25] That doesn't tell us anything.

[00:24:27] Cause this is all after the fact that doesn't tell us what

[00:24:29] he was supposed to be on 45, but he was like, no,

[00:24:32] put me on 46 because I know Sean and Hannah won't do what

[00:24:35] they did.

[00:24:36] And I got to show them how to do the actual plan.

[00:24:38] Like,

[00:24:39] Yeah.

[00:24:40] So I think,

[00:24:41] I want to know from you again.

[00:24:42] I think there is some, I don't think it was a,

[00:24:45] like,

[00:24:46] I don't necessarily know that it was a plan,

[00:24:48] but there's some methods of the madness where again,

[00:24:51] if,

[00:24:52] if he,

[00:24:53] like what Hannah did was like,

[00:24:54] if you guys don't vote me out,

[00:24:56] I'm quitting when we get back to camp.

[00:24:58] And what,

[00:24:59] I'm sorry.

[00:25:00] It was more like,

[00:25:01] I think I'm the person that,

[00:25:03] that deserves to be voted out.

[00:25:04] And he said everybody's going to go and I won't be,

[00:25:06] I won't be there.

[00:25:07] Yeah.

[00:25:08] Which is like,

[00:25:09] but that's the thing.

[00:25:10] I think you're saying that we're giving,

[00:25:12] I don't think he's a very good player.

[00:25:13] If you could see at the end,

[00:25:14] and I was on the journey,

[00:25:15] I would say you try to quit.

[00:25:16] You are not,

[00:25:17] you're not getting my vote ever.

[00:25:18] Obviously he's still there.

[00:25:19] So he's still surviving.

[00:25:20] So you're not going to give him the flack of like,

[00:25:22] but yeah,

[00:25:23] him trying to quit.

[00:25:24] We'll see if that's like,

[00:25:25] but we know this is like cute.

[00:25:26] He was just delusional.

[00:25:27] Like,

[00:25:28] that's the thing is like,

[00:25:29] you can't really blame him.

[00:25:31] Like again,

[00:25:32] he doesn't know what he's doing.

[00:25:34] I feel like the words that come out of his mouth are just like,

[00:25:37] they just randomly pop into his head and he says them.

[00:25:39] And sometimes they're like genius.

[00:25:41] And sometimes they're like, Hey, I want to quit.

[00:25:43] And then an hour later he'll be in confession.

[00:25:45] I'll be like,

[00:25:46] my plan to quit was all part of my strategy.

[00:25:50] Yeah.

[00:25:51] And so again, like,

[00:25:53] obviously that's not great,

[00:25:54] but it's very different than Sean and Hannah.

[00:25:56] Yeah.

[00:25:57] I just want to say like, you know,

[00:25:59] the double,

[00:26:00] the sort of double standard of like,

[00:26:02] listen being the one like lady here,

[00:26:05] you know,

[00:26:06] like I feel like,

[00:26:07] I do feel like there's Q walks into this game with a certain

[00:26:11] privilege of like who he is, you know,

[00:26:13] and like people look at him and I think like,

[00:26:16] I'm not like a huge Venus fan in this game.

[00:26:19] You know,

[00:26:20] like I'm not like a huge Venus fan in this game.

[00:26:23] You know, like, but she doesn't get the same sort of,

[00:26:26] I know she's still here,

[00:26:27] but people don't like really respect her.

[00:26:29] I think in the same way that they do Q to a certain extent,

[00:26:32] but she's like flying by the seat of her pants and like speak

[00:26:35] in her mind and saying it and walking into and trying to like

[00:26:38] own her game and be in control of her game.

[00:26:40] And everyone's like, we hate her, you know,

[00:26:42] and like every, everyone's scared of Q.

[00:26:44] And so I, that frustrates me.

[00:26:46] I think his behavior in the challenge was awful.

[00:26:49] Him like being all annoyed,

[00:26:50] like,

[00:26:51] well, everyone except for one is going to fall off the pole.

[00:26:54] So like you can't say that just because people fell like,

[00:26:57] damn, we should have rice. You know, it's like, you can't,

[00:26:59] that's like, you're being,

[00:27:01] I think people are annoyed by Q, but them being scared of him.

[00:27:04] I think could be a legitimate fear that if you cross Q,

[00:27:08] you might not make it back to the States after the show.

[00:27:11] Well, right.

[00:27:12] If you voted him out at this tribal,

[00:27:15] then you don't have to ever be scared of Q ever again.

[00:27:18] But here's the thing though,

[00:27:19] I do want to elaborate on what Izzy is saying. Right.

[00:27:22] And again, this really has nothing to do with Q, but for,

[00:27:25] and let me know if I'm wrong,

[00:27:27] but as a gay black man,

[00:27:30] sometimes what I say people don't take heed to,

[00:27:35] they don't hear it, they don't respect it.

[00:27:37] And I feel like similar to Venus,

[00:27:39] although you might not agree with like what she's saying,

[00:27:41] it's like when she says something like,

[00:27:44] they just don't, but when Q says it right, wrong,

[00:27:47] or indifferent people, there's this respect or like that people tune in.

[00:27:52] And they're like, huh, let like, you know,

[00:27:54] for instance, the plus one alliance.

[00:27:55] It's really not the plus one alliance.

[00:27:57] It's the Q alliance.

[00:27:59] Oh, I thought it was actually the legend 25 alliance.

[00:28:02] Anyway,

[00:28:03] I think you guys are giving Q too much credit.

[00:28:06] No, but it's not Q.

[00:28:08] Yes, I don't mean,

[00:28:09] I understand what you mean by that.

[00:28:11] I don't mean yes, I don't mean,

[00:28:13] I understand what you mean by like the inherent difference in like the

[00:28:16] respect that maybe a big guy like Q was going to get versus like a Venus.

[00:28:21] But I think there are other factors at play.

[00:28:23] And I also think Q does not get that much respect.

[00:28:26] I mean, we see Charlie time and time again,

[00:28:28] basically make fun of him without him even realizing we see.

[00:28:31] And also I think now that I think what we see from Q talking to

[00:28:35] the confessionals is a lot different than what people have seen

[00:28:38] throughout and maybe he's garnered respect from his like the game he has been playing.

[00:28:43] But I think now after this tribal,

[00:28:45] his game is completely shot.

[00:28:47] I think he is going to be on sort of a Venus level.

[00:28:49] If not lower where Tiffany now he blew up her idle situation.

[00:28:54] She's going to confront him.

[00:28:56] People are going to be like, Q, you try to quit.

[00:28:58] Like you're like the promise Q comes in with such a force that you

[00:29:02] I feel like a lot of times you're just going to like shake your head and agree.

[00:29:05] But just because you're doing that doesn't actually mean you respect what he's saying.

[00:29:08] And I think now that he's active like this,

[00:29:10] he's not going to get anyone's respect in the game or the jury.

[00:29:13] I have to disagree with you though because I feel like Venus comes with a force

[00:29:16] and people don't shake their head and agree with her.

[00:29:18] And I'm not saying that I agree with Venus or not, but I'm just saying

[00:29:21] like I just feel like there is a double standard,

[00:29:23] but I think that it just speaks to society.

[00:29:25] And again, I'm not like condemning Q or anything.

[00:29:27] I'm just saying like I it's just very interesting.

[00:29:31] Sure. But I get what you're saying, but at the same time,

[00:29:34] and maybe this was like a more of a snowball effect.

[00:29:36] But if I come to the merge and like if I'm a Charlie and Venus's whole tribe

[00:29:42] and maybe that's the root issue is Venus's initial tribe.

[00:29:45] But if her whole tribe is just already discrediting her

[00:29:48] and she's sort of like a black sheep in the game,

[00:29:50] then it's a lot easier to dislike to not because then strategically saying

[00:29:56] speaking, it's like even if you start to, if you start to work with her,

[00:29:59] you might be on the outs.

[00:30:00] And maybe that's not, maybe that in a way speaks to the point that you're making.

[00:30:04] But I think a lot of other play like I don't think this is a man.

[00:30:08] Like I get in the greater.

[00:30:10] I'm not saying a man.

[00:30:11] I'm specifically saying if you're asking like this,

[00:30:14] a heterosexual man as opposed to a female and to a queer person

[00:30:19] to a gay queer man, like we are not we, we can't,

[00:30:22] they don't hear us the same.

[00:30:24] And I think this is a prime example because it's like Q don't even

[00:30:27] be, we make a sense and they're still willing to piece together this plan.

[00:30:31] Do you think if Tevin were to say vote me out?

[00:30:37] Do you think Tevin would not?

[00:30:39] No one would have been fighting for Tevin.

[00:30:41] Right. Well, I mean, Tevin, I don't know.

[00:30:43] Let's just like reverse it.

[00:30:44] Like I just think like if Tevin had pulled that at tribal,

[00:30:48] I think.

[00:30:49] If it was a time where obviously this tribal, he was the vote.

[00:30:52] So I think people would have obliged.

[00:30:54] I mean, he was.

[00:30:55] I knew that a couple episodes ago.

[00:30:57] I think even this time a hunter would fight for him to stay.

[00:31:00] I think other people would fight for him to stay.

[00:31:01] Hunter wasn't fighting for nothing.

[00:31:03] Hunter was fighting the whole episode of Keep Tevin Safe.

[00:31:06] He went to, he literally walked up to the groups before.

[00:31:08] Yeah, but that was another thing that confused me.

[00:31:11] He walked up to who like, okay, mind you, I love Hunter.

[00:31:15] I want to say, I agree with your point about like in a greater scheme,

[00:31:19] but I think this Q Venus comparison is really bad because they're both,

[00:31:22] I think they're both awful players.

[00:31:24] So it's like, how do you like what?

[00:31:26] There's no baseline of like, excuse me.

[00:31:28] But I think there are things you can tie them together.

[00:31:31] Like, okay, bad players.

[00:31:33] That's one thing they have in common.

[00:31:34] Another thing is like they're pretty like they're individually

[00:31:38] confident, you know what I mean?

[00:31:39] Like they both have their own, they bring,

[00:31:41] they're really playing their own game to the game.

[00:31:44] And I think they're outspoken and say whatever they like,

[00:31:48] like I think, I think in those ways they sort of act in the same kind

[00:31:53] of chaotic way.

[00:31:54] Like they would feel the same kind of chaotic piece on the chess board

[00:31:58] in some ways.

[00:31:59] But of course they're different because of the outside societal things

[00:32:04] that they bring to the game, which all of us bring to the game.

[00:32:06] I mean, I felt that so hard on my season was just like feeling

[00:32:10] the otherness that was just never,

[00:32:12] it was like talking to a brick wall sometimes.

[00:32:14] It was like just not, not hitting.

[00:32:17] And then other people seemingly with like less coherent,

[00:32:20] less sort of like, I don't know,

[00:32:22] strategic thinking or social thinking immediately.

[00:32:26] Of course, of course.

[00:32:27] You know, like, I don't get it.

[00:32:30] So that's where my issue, like for your,

[00:32:33] your guy, like I feel like in the defense of your argument,

[00:32:36] I feel like using this as the example is actually a bad example

[00:32:39] to use because I agree with your point overall.

[00:32:43] But I think QA, now that he's behaved in this way,

[00:32:46] his game is actually shot.

[00:32:47] I don't think people are going to respect him going forward.

[00:32:49] And then Venus also like, yeah, she's a smaller woman,

[00:32:52] but the way that she we've seen that she just approaches people

[00:32:55] is also really not good.

[00:32:57] So it's like,

[00:32:58] you're not saying that that's the same way Q approaches people

[00:33:00] Q approaches people.

[00:33:01] And I'm like, oh my God, like I clutch my pearl.

[00:33:04] You know, I think they come anyway,

[00:33:06] we don't have to keep harping on the Venus.

[00:33:07] We can.

[00:33:08] You think I just,

[00:33:10] but no, I hear your point.

[00:33:11] And here's another thing.

[00:33:12] Like again, we love Jack and Jack, like we respect you,

[00:33:15] but I just sometimes I think there is a lived experience

[00:33:18] that maybe Izzy can that I just feel like I understand what

[00:33:22] what you're saying, but I just have to say.

[00:33:24] And again, I just feel like it's hard to quantify.

[00:33:29] And it's hard to like, you know, for other people to see,

[00:33:32] but it exists.

[00:33:33] And I think that this,

[00:33:34] I think the Venus and Q are a great example.

[00:33:38] And I don't think that they're necessarily horrible players.

[00:33:41] I just think, you know, in this game of a lot of different

[00:33:45] personalities and a lot of different people,

[00:33:47] it's just hard for them to play their game that they want to

[00:33:51] play how they want to play it when they want to play it

[00:33:53] who they want to play with.

[00:33:54] And like, you know, I think that that ultimately is some

[00:33:57] of their downfalls is that like they want to play how

[00:34:00] they want to play with who they want to play with

[00:34:02] and how like it can't go your way.

[00:34:04] Like you got to be open and flexible.

[00:34:06] You know, you got to be versatile.

[00:34:08] And I do want to clarify before we move forward,

[00:34:10] I agree with your argument that like certain people of certain

[00:34:13] demographics are going to gain kind of an inherent more

[00:34:15] respect to what they say.

[00:34:17] I want to, I want to, like, I don't want my,

[00:34:21] my pushback on this to be considered as like disagreeing

[00:34:24] with that.

[00:34:25] I agree with that wholeheartedly, but that's why

[00:34:27] my argument is just like this example.

[00:34:29] I think they're both a mess.

[00:34:30] And so that's why I think if you wanted to investigate it

[00:34:33] more thoroughly and like responsibly,

[00:34:37] I think you would take maybe two good players.

[00:34:41] And maybe one is like a heterosexual white man and one is

[00:34:44] like a gay woman of color.

[00:34:46] And they're both really good players,

[00:34:48] but maybe that, that white man is getting more credit.

[00:34:50] And we've seen that in the past even with like,

[00:34:52] have you seen season, season 13, the big brother?

[00:34:54] Yeah, I'm a big, I think that, I think that that happens.

[00:34:57] I think that that happens.

[00:34:59] And that's why I'm agreeing with that.

[00:35:01] I think that's, that's the better example to analyze that

[00:35:04] because there's fewer like extraneous factors,

[00:35:07] like their messy ass game.

[00:35:10] But I do think like, especially on this season,

[00:35:13] I would say like messy gameplay or just messy in whatever

[00:35:16] way you want to put it is actually like the majority of,

[00:35:19] like of people and like what's happening on the beach.

[00:35:22] And so you can't discredit that also as a,

[00:35:25] as an element, as a move in these games to be messy

[00:35:29] and chaotic, you know, can be for good.

[00:35:32] So I just think like also ultimately like,

[00:35:34] whether people are good or bad at this, like yes,

[00:35:37] it is mostly subjective, right?

[00:35:39] Cause it's all situational.

[00:35:40] It's all like a lot of it is luck.

[00:35:42] Like imagine if Q was on season 45, right?

[00:35:45] Like all of that changes the dynamic of everything.

[00:35:48] One person can change the dynamic of everything.

[00:35:51] So that the element of luck in terms of like who you're

[00:35:55] connecting with, who you're cast with, who you're playing,

[00:35:57] what tribe you start on, all of that is, yeah.

[00:36:01] Even if the tribes started in different configurations,

[00:36:03] I think we would see a very different merge.

[00:36:05] Oh, 100% I have a question.

[00:36:10] If we are a tribe and I don't like Wendell and I want Wendell

[00:36:19] to get voted out.

[00:36:22] And in my confessionals, I say I want Wendell to get

[00:36:25] voted out.

[00:36:26] But Izzy galvanizes Jack and says,

[00:36:31] Jack we need to get Wendell out.

[00:36:33] Jack Izzy, me and they said he want to get Wendell out.

[00:36:38] And I'm like, yes, I've been wanting to get him out too.

[00:36:41] And we get Wendell out.

[00:36:44] Who's move is that?

[00:36:45] Who's move is it?

[00:36:47] I'll be Izzy's move.

[00:36:49] Well, okay.

[00:36:50] Let me say, I think about this a lot because I think about

[00:36:53] like the fact that like you need people in this game.

[00:36:58] Like, right?

[00:36:59] I think it's true that like you need other people.

[00:37:01] I need, if I was going to make that move,

[00:37:03] I need Bryce already questioning Wendell.

[00:37:05] Like I need that to happen.

[00:37:06] That's like part of it.

[00:37:08] You don't know who's going to be sitting in the final three.

[00:37:10] So I think once you get to three,

[00:37:12] who can claim certain things starts to become really clear.

[00:37:15] Because if I'm not there,

[00:37:17] I think Bryce probably can claim a lot of it.

[00:37:20] Giving me credit would give you my jury vote for sure.

[00:37:22] But like, you know, I think I was kind of annoyed by,

[00:37:25] in seemingly the pettiness of already trying to have a need of

[00:37:28] like claiming the move because like it's all just about how you

[00:37:31] contextualize your argument and your mission statement at final

[00:37:34] tribal, you know?

[00:37:35] And so I actually thought I was like annoyed.

[00:37:38] I'm like annoyed at the editing of like,

[00:37:40] we have so much time for editing and it's all just like,

[00:37:43] not really strategic stuff ultimately, you know,

[00:37:46] I thought it was really interesting.

[00:37:49] Bit of editing because I think it's very rare that we see these

[00:37:53] like open debates over like who's move is who, right?

[00:37:56] And that's such a part of survivor.

[00:37:58] That it's never that clear.

[00:38:00] And so I feel like this was a nice example where we have

[00:38:03] Venus, we have Tevin, we have Liz all sort of grappling

[00:38:06] over this idea of like,

[00:38:08] who is the person I voted out soda.

[00:38:10] So I was, I don't know, maybe I'm misinterpreting

[00:38:13] when you say, but I'm not sure what you're saying.

[00:38:16] I don't know.

[00:38:17] Maybe I'm misinterpreting when you say,

[00:38:19] but I was happy to see that debate.

[00:38:21] And I think that debate on Tevin's part maybe push Liz over the

[00:38:24] edge and you believe it was me.

[00:38:27] Can you believe she's saying that it was me?

[00:38:29] And Liz is like, I hate this guy.

[00:38:30] Like he's going to run this whole thing.

[00:38:32] I got to get ready, you know, like, absolutely true.

[00:38:34] Yeah.

[00:38:35] Yeah.

[00:38:36] And that's to me again.

[00:38:38] Y'all know I loved Tevin.

[00:38:39] Tevin is shot out to Tevin.

[00:38:41] I think he's amazing.

[00:38:42] I truly crawled so that a Tevin could fly.

[00:38:47] Right?

[00:38:48] But ultimately what it came down in Tevin's game,

[00:38:50] in my opinion is the one quintessential rule in survivor

[00:38:55] when you get comfortable.

[00:38:57] And I think that Tevin,

[00:38:59] with everything that everyone has said about him,

[00:39:01] he's charismatic, he's funny.

[00:39:03] He's in the know.

[00:39:04] I think that because he was in that plus one alliance

[00:39:08] because he had Hunter, he just assumed certain things.

[00:39:13] And I think that it would have been kept a little tighter

[00:39:16] to the chest about like his outburst about Venus.

[00:39:19] Like, what is she talking about?

[00:39:21] Like I really felt like that's a conversation

[00:39:23] that you should have specifically and only with Hunter

[00:39:25] because what you don't realize

[00:39:28] because you are so comfortable and you think

[00:39:30] that everyone is like with you outside of Venus,

[00:39:33] like you've alienated a Liz who now like Liz

[00:39:37] might not have much agency in the game

[00:39:42] but that little gripe that she now has with you

[00:39:45] and so I think that that's where Tevin mess up

[00:39:47] in the sense that like he just got so comfortable

[00:39:49] and felt as though everyone was on his side

[00:39:52] when really it's like only one person could win.

[00:39:55] And I think that that's really where Tevin kind of

[00:39:58] his one flaw in the game was.

[00:40:00] Yeah, that was an opportunity to pull Liz closer

[00:40:02] and say like, hey this was our move.

[00:40:05] Like we did this together.

[00:40:07] And I do think I agree with him saying like to Liz

[00:40:10] she's taking credit for my move if I'm Liz

[00:40:13] even though like the question you posed Bryce

[00:40:15] I don't really think it was Liz's move

[00:40:17] just because you want someone out for a long time

[00:40:19] if you're not the one to pull the numbers together

[00:40:21] it's not really your move.

[00:40:22] It's a move that works for you

[00:40:24] which is a very important part of the game

[00:40:26] because not every move needs to be your move.

[00:40:28] So what Izzy said though, it don't really matter

[00:40:31] if you get to the end every

[00:40:33] this is where you need to have the Q mentality

[00:40:36] and every move is your move.

[00:40:38] And so it's like I receive that so well

[00:40:40] not every move but I'm just saying like

[00:40:42] I receive what you're saying Izzy so much

[00:40:44] because it's like it's almost like take your ego out of it

[00:40:46] like working together as a group

[00:40:48] and we all put in 50 cent, 50 cent, 50 cent, 50 cent

[00:40:51] and we got $2 and we get an ice cream

[00:40:57] you know the ice cream is eventually going to melt

[00:40:59] and so like

[00:41:01] he got some prep

[00:41:03] ice cream

[00:41:05] but if it's a car

[00:41:07] we all can utilize the car

[00:41:09] and we might kick somebody out

[00:41:11] but you know what I'm saying like

[00:41:13] yeah I receive that so much.

[00:41:15] I have something to say about that actually also Bryce

[00:41:17] I'll pose a question to this squad

[00:41:19] is like if you're on the jury

[00:41:21] and you're hearing

[00:41:23] you know Bryce is sitting there

[00:41:25] final tribal and we're talking about this

[00:41:27] and maybe I was involved in the Wendell vote

[00:41:29] Bryce was involved

[00:41:31] Jack was involved in the Wendell vote

[00:41:33] like as a jury wouldn't you want

[00:41:35] the person to be like yeah I agree with that plan

[00:41:37] I wanted that plan

[00:41:39] I had been thinking about it before

[00:41:41] and I took the bait Izzy initiated it

[00:41:43] and I helped get those numbers

[00:41:45] like including people on the jury

[00:41:47] in things that have happened

[00:41:49] I that would make me as a jury member

[00:41:51] be like yep yep that's my guy

[00:41:53] that's my guy you know because it's like

[00:41:55] you have to find ways of giving

[00:41:57] you can't just be like all of these

[00:41:59] truck and I'm sitting here

[00:42:01] and this is why I was

[00:42:03] it's like no this was collaborative

[00:42:05] and all of these things helped you because now you're sitting

[00:42:07] 6 not 9 and like this helped me

[00:42:09] because I'm sitting here

[00:42:11] and that's why I should win because that also shows

[00:42:13] that I played a social game and I listened to Bryce

[00:42:15] you know like and all these things

[00:42:17] and Q is just missing that

[00:42:19] like I don't know if we

[00:42:21] if we can get back to this like plus one alliance

[00:42:23] but it's like Q

[00:42:25] do you not see that

[00:42:27] you live on hypocrisy hill

[00:42:29] like

[00:42:31] you're mad that people are mentioning names

[00:42:33] and then you're just like but if you go against the 6

[00:42:35] and meanwhile you're naming people where's Tim

[00:42:37] where's you know like

[00:42:39] where's Tim where's Tiff you know like

[00:42:41] what happened to Tiffany like what's going on

[00:42:43] right that's not real

[00:42:45] like why would any

[00:42:47] Tim went against the 6 first

[00:42:49] it's true

[00:42:51] well Tim

[00:42:53] didn't do anything right when he got to the merge

[00:42:55] like yeah

[00:42:57] so I want to backtrack to what you were just saying

[00:42:59] about like I think that is also

[00:43:01] such a good debate that we're seeing of

[00:43:03] like the jury man

[00:43:05] like for Liz right like kind of like you said Bryce

[00:43:07] you might all be in the same car

[00:43:09] but if Liz is the one who's driving it at the end

[00:43:11] how do you express your role in that

[00:43:13] car along the way

[00:43:15] and so here's where you're like

[00:43:17] there's such a balance Izzy that I think you highlighted of

[00:43:19] you

[00:43:21] you want to give credit you don't want to be like

[00:43:23] this was my move this was my move because then

[00:43:25] people on the jury are going to be like

[00:43:27] that was like kind of my move that's weird that you think credit for it

[00:43:29] but at the same time you also can't be like

[00:43:31] yet this was all

[00:43:33] this was all Tevin and I kind of disagreed with it

[00:43:35] and thought hey I want to say

[00:43:37] I'm not saying that

[00:43:39] for a player it's a hard balance because it's like

[00:43:41] so Liz needs to take some credit

[00:43:43] but for Tevin and even

[00:43:45] for the Venus maybe she ends up on the jury

[00:43:47] it's like what like how do you

[00:43:49] you're like okay I worked with them to do this

[00:43:51] what it's like for Liz how do you

[00:43:53] take a little bit of credit in the most

[00:43:55] healthy way possible is it sort of like

[00:43:57] hey I was wanting soda out

[00:43:59] I knew at the time I didn't have that agency

[00:44:01] like Tevin did so I tried to like maybe

[00:44:03] plant some seeds for Tevin and push that narrative

[00:44:05] a little bit maybe that's the

[00:44:07] answer but it is I don't know the answer

[00:44:09] it is a very interesting line

[00:44:11] that we haven't really seen shown at least this

[00:44:13] early in the game of like okay you

[00:44:15] can't take all the credit but you can't

[00:44:17] like give too much credit

[00:44:19] I did take credit already

[00:44:21] in some ways anyway but I

[00:44:23] I disagree with you a little

[00:44:25] bit Jack and I think Izzy you hit

[00:44:27] the head on the nail

[00:44:29] or whatever

[00:44:31] I know you don't know how I

[00:44:33] do it but like that was

[00:44:35] crazy

[00:44:37] but here's

[00:44:39] the thing right like I think like

[00:44:41] you're right if you're sitting there

[00:44:43] at the jewelry if you're sitting there

[00:44:45] speaking to the jewelry what better way

[00:44:47] to get a Liz on

[00:44:49] your side and to say it's

[00:44:51] my vote or if you to say like

[00:44:53] Liz I went with I went

[00:44:55] with Liz's plan to get off

[00:44:57] Venus she swayed me like bring them

[00:44:59] along on the journey and again sometimes

[00:45:01] here we go again talking about a James

[00:45:03] Jones because every episode I got to bring up a James Jones but James Jones says this a lot where it's like

[00:45:07] he always says at the end

[00:45:09] it's storytelling and it's not

[00:45:11] really like what you did

[00:45:13] if you can

[00:45:15] captivate the jewelry name

[00:45:17] drop do what Tim did my mama

[00:45:19] my auntie my grandma my

[00:45:21] you know what I mean like name drop all of these

[00:45:23] people in your story of how

[00:45:25] you were able to

[00:45:27] can I can I can I

[00:45:29] can I expand on this

[00:45:31] Bryce a little bit because I think it's

[00:45:33] like I'm I miss

[00:45:35] seeing people sort of have like their

[00:45:37] mission statement of how they're going to play the game

[00:45:39] and that doesn't mean that that doesn't come

[00:45:41] with flexibility and like

[00:45:43] floating around but it's like if you can sit at

[00:45:45] tribal it's not about like here are my

[00:45:47] five moves it's like this was

[00:45:49] ultimately my assessing

[00:45:51] who I'm playing the game with

[00:45:53] and where the relationships are this

[00:45:55] was going to be my role and based

[00:45:57] on that role this move made sense

[00:45:59] and that move made sense and it was all

[00:46:01] connecting back to my thesis statement

[00:46:03] right it's like your writing an essay at the

[00:46:05] end and if all of your arguments don't

[00:46:07] support why the way that you played

[00:46:09] the game whether it was passive

[00:46:11] or in control or

[00:46:13] can't be like if all your

[00:46:15] moves don't connect to that then it's like

[00:46:17] willy nilly and it's just like

[00:46:19] I don't know becomes

[00:46:21] less meaningful it comes less

[00:46:23] narrative it becomes less

[00:46:25] of a journey and I think we're seeing at tribal especially

[00:46:27] in this new era we're looking for journeys

[00:46:29] at the end you know so

[00:46:31] I think I just like so much time was spent on

[00:46:33] this one god damn thing that ultimately

[00:46:35] then became cues

[00:46:37] both I kind of stole the thunder from

[00:46:39] everyone like no one's getting this

[00:46:41] no one's getting credit for this other than Q maybe

[00:46:43] you know like um and so

[00:46:45] yeah it's like yeah Q

[00:46:47] I also love

[00:46:49] when everything is happening

[00:46:51] uh and then kid Tiffany goes to

[00:46:53] Q and she's like

[00:46:55] what is it going he's like

[00:46:57] they was mentioning your name

[00:46:59] I he's like

[00:47:01] like and so he's like

[00:47:03] I was trying to take the heat

[00:47:05] off of you uh and by

[00:47:07] they you mean

[00:47:09] I was like but again he didn't

[00:47:11] lie though that's what I say Q didn't lie

[00:47:13] Tiffany was like what you doing

[00:47:15] it was mentioning your name

[00:47:17] I mentioned her name first

[00:47:19] but that's the that's the Qism

[00:47:21] like I think like

[00:47:23] never trust people that speak in riddles

[00:47:25] you know like he's one of those that

[00:47:27] like semi-speaks in riddles like you could read between

[00:47:29] the lines you know like

[00:47:31] and yeah so I got a question for you guys

[00:47:33] how far can Q make it

[00:47:35] okay

[00:47:37] I was aware not until yesterday

[00:47:39] yeah I don't know now how far can Q

[00:47:41] make it I would venture to say

[00:47:43] he's not the next target up on

[00:47:45] anybody's list

[00:47:47] yeah there's a world where

[00:47:49] I could see that they target Tiffany before they target

[00:47:51] him because it is our idol

[00:47:53] unfortunately yeah

[00:47:55] I would say he could slide

[00:47:57] into that slot where it's like

[00:47:59] you become chaotic enough that people are convinced

[00:48:01] you're never gonna win and then you semi

[00:48:03] slip into the goat position

[00:48:05] but actually you're still want to be in control

[00:48:07] like I could see a scary path

[00:48:09] for Q to the end in some ways

[00:48:11] you know

[00:48:13] y'all want to bring around goats

[00:48:17] it's like you're scared of someone that said

[00:48:19] Aubrey was their favorite player I love Aubrey

[00:48:21] she was robbed Rob Queen but like

[00:48:23] you're scared of the person that said

[00:48:25] you're not a favorite player but

[00:48:27] he was like y'all want to bring

[00:48:29] y'all want to bring

[00:48:31] y'all freaking out

[00:48:33] sorry

[00:48:35] but Q

[00:48:37] he's scared of everything

[00:48:39] if you hide well

[00:48:41] and see he

[00:48:43] big mistake

[00:48:45] now let's talk about that though

[00:48:47] because also shout out to

[00:48:49] Issa look the revolutionary way

[00:48:51] a young creator has taken

[00:48:53] of how they predict

[00:48:55] people's future in the game

[00:48:57] I thought Q's commentary

[00:48:59] and Venus's commentary

[00:49:01] on people playing the game

[00:49:03] I thought was

[00:49:05] excellent honestly

[00:49:07] and although

[00:49:09] I love Hunter

[00:49:11] listen I am a

[00:49:13] I am a dove

[00:49:15] in a cage waiting for Hunter

[00:49:17] to let me fly free

[00:49:19] like

[00:49:21] okay I love Hunter right

[00:49:23] but I really do feel like

[00:49:25] specifically

[00:49:27] with Hunter and seeing where he

[00:49:29] hid right

[00:49:31] I almost feel like

[00:49:33] because Hunter has practiced

[00:49:35] so much to be

[00:49:37] on this game of survivor

[00:49:39] I almost feel like

[00:49:41] Hunter

[00:49:43] feels like he's in assimilation

[00:49:45] and not the actual game of survivor

[00:49:47] right because it's like he's almost

[00:49:49] so equipped so great for it

[00:49:51] but

[00:49:53] we see in this vote he kind of sort of was left

[00:49:55] out then he said he's going to like cause

[00:49:57] a go cause a ruckus and like

[00:49:59] he just walks

[00:50:01] off with cute like I don't know I just feel

[00:50:03] like I am worried for

[00:50:05] Hunter I think that he is so quick I think

[00:50:07] that he can win the game I just

[00:50:09] he has everything

[00:50:11] to win the game but I feel like

[00:50:13] he might be getting a little

[00:50:15] lost definitely

[00:50:17] strategy like do you think he like

[00:50:19] like if he was like if he was left

[00:50:21] in charge like let's just say you know

[00:50:23] like let's say if like people were sort of

[00:50:25] giving him the leadership role

[00:50:27] you think he would really be yes I think

[00:50:29] he understands that I think he's

[00:50:31] equipped and like yes he can climb a tree

[00:50:33] yes we've seen you know yes he can win a comp

[00:50:35] you know that doesn't impress me that much

[00:50:37] so I think he navigated the pre-merge

[00:50:39] with a lot of like strategic

[00:50:41] day one

[00:50:43] no like like what

[00:50:45] and he had taken

[00:50:47] and so like he had a crew

[00:50:49] yeah and well also

[00:50:51] so how good

[00:50:53] is Hunter you know I'm just

[00:50:55] you know that's all

[00:50:57] so that he understood that that would open up his

[00:50:59] relationship with Tevin Moore and

[00:51:01] things like that I think

[00:51:03] I think he's fine again I think this episode

[00:51:05] drops his stock a lot but I don't think he's

[00:51:07] like a dumb like just a

[00:51:09] comp he has some chops but

[00:51:11] I think when the pressure

[00:51:13] was on for him to like make a big play

[00:51:15] like it was to save Tevin

[00:51:17] it wasn't his moment and then I agree with you Bryce

[00:51:19] as ridiculous as the hide and seek

[00:51:21] was there was some truth to like

[00:51:23] if someone's gonna go this hard for hide and seek

[00:51:25] they're gonna go really hard for a million

[00:51:27] dollars it's kind of is the same in

[00:51:29] the challenge when he hangs upside down at the end

[00:51:31] it's like you don't need to be doing all that

[00:51:33] you know but you can

[00:51:35] you can how much do you

[00:51:37] want to bet he was in his basement

[00:51:39] off the banister practicing

[00:51:41] for that like I'm a show jet

[00:51:43] that I could well yeah and that's great

[00:51:45] and he won immunity and we had a messy

[00:51:47] tribal and his closest

[00:51:49] ally went home

[00:51:51] his stock went

[00:51:53] down a lot I don't think he has a good chance

[00:51:55] to win at all but I decided

[00:51:57] to push back on you saying that he has

[00:51:59] no strategic chop because I think he does

[00:52:01] well I don't think we'd see like I feel

[00:52:03] like we haven't seen it yet like it's like the image

[00:52:05] that I'm getting from like how they're portraying hunters

[00:52:07] like I'm not sure if that element is there

[00:52:09] that's all you're probably right he's not gonna like

[00:52:11] guide any big plays I feel like

[00:52:13] like this is an opportunity he could have played

[00:52:15] an idol for Tevin too that was

[00:52:17] like he could have he could have but also it's

[00:52:19] like we know that

[00:52:21] hunters game he's been downplaying

[00:52:23] it like he has said that to us and again

[00:52:25] that's what I'm saying it's like I feel

[00:52:27] like he is playing so hard

[00:52:29] in the simulation that he is

[00:52:31] forgetting that like baby boy

[00:52:33] you I need to see you in action

[00:52:35] however with all of these big

[00:52:37] personalities arising

[00:52:39] I think that

[00:52:41] Hunter is actually in a really good spot because

[00:52:43] these big personalities that

[00:52:45] of the

[00:52:47] Q of the Tevins

[00:52:49] of the Tiffany's of the

[00:52:51] who else is there like of the

[00:52:53] Charlie's like I feel like

[00:52:55] and Venus that like

[00:52:57] people are gonna want to go after them

[00:52:59] and with Hunter just in a tree chilling

[00:53:01] like I think that like

[00:53:03] when the time for him to emerge down

[00:53:05] I

[00:53:07] think that he is still in a position

[00:53:09] to be good but I just need for him to just come down

[00:53:11] off the tree a little bit

[00:53:13] he got like three days left right so once

[00:53:15] you're gonna do it like

[00:53:17] leave my Hunter alone

[00:53:19] I think he I think now losing

[00:53:21] Tevin he's not gonna be at the top of anyone's

[00:53:23] radar for a minute and

[00:53:25] he is very good in these challenges he could go on a run

[00:53:27] but I do agree ultimately

[00:53:29] is he like he is gonna have to step up

[00:53:31] strategically and that's gonna be the question

[00:53:33] of like I think he has it in him

[00:53:35] but is he gonna be able to take

[00:53:37] because we saw him try to maneuver this plan

[00:53:39] to save Tevin and it wasn't the cleanest

[00:53:41] attempt so

[00:53:43] that's sort of where I'm at with him

[00:53:45] and I would say he's cool with Q

[00:53:47] and now Q is kind of all over the place too

[00:53:49] so it really

[00:53:51] Hunter's gonna need to be able to bounce back for sure

[00:53:53] Hunter's gotta be Tiff and

[00:53:55] Kenzie's new like

[00:53:57] you know like Comp Beast guy you know

[00:53:59] like replace Q with Hunter

[00:54:01] yeah anyway

[00:54:05] I was gonna say

[00:54:07] we've covered a lot of the chaos of the episode

[00:54:09] I do want to talk about the challenge a little bit

[00:54:11] and we have this

[00:54:13] this rice negotiation

[00:54:15] which was the negotiation

[00:54:17] it's the first time in the new era where

[00:54:19] they do not come to an agreement

[00:54:21] and Jeff said

[00:54:23] set it hard you need four people to sit out

[00:54:25] or

[00:54:27] you could have two people sit out and they lose their votes

[00:54:29] and Q and Liz were willing to sit out

[00:54:31] seemed like nobody was really willing to give up their vote

[00:54:33] of course

[00:54:35] yeah of course

[00:54:37] I hate the taking away of the vote

[00:54:39] the vote is like the only currency

[00:54:41] you have

[00:54:43] if people are not voting

[00:54:45] what is this game who cares

[00:54:47] it's like decided by luck

[00:54:49] anyway I hate the dangling of taking away the vote

[00:54:51] what do we think about

[00:54:53] Jeff had to give them something

[00:54:55] right

[00:54:57] I loved Q where Charlie was like

[00:54:59] alright if somebody else

[00:55:01] is willing to step up with me

[00:55:03] and here go Q

[00:55:05] you need nobody to step up

[00:55:07] just come to the front

[00:55:09] and listen if Jeff say no

[00:55:11] we'll all come to the back

[00:55:13] but no

[00:55:15] because you're like no

[00:55:17] but it kind of sort of made sense though

[00:55:19] and Charlie almost fell for it

[00:55:21] I thought that was just so interesting

[00:55:23] I mean I just think once again

[00:55:25] Q's behavior before

[00:55:27] and after the during the challenge

[00:55:29] the whole challenge was just like

[00:55:31] if that was anyone else that

[00:55:33] acted like that they would have gone tonight

[00:55:35] no matter what happened to tribal

[00:55:37] I also think it's funny that I think that Q

[00:55:39] knew that this was not his challenge

[00:55:41] so it's like let me let me let me get

[00:55:43] people to sit down so that we can get some

[00:55:45] rights but I guess

[00:55:47] and I don't know Wendell you've

[00:55:49] played the most games out of all

[00:55:51] of us being in the game

[00:55:53] this far being this

[00:55:55] how important is

[00:55:57] a little bit of rice on your belly

[00:55:59] that's a lot when you were

[00:56:01] at exile island like what like

[00:56:03] what would that have done for you

[00:56:05] do you think it would have been able

[00:56:07] it helps a lot

[00:56:09] okay we need to think

[00:56:11] the answer is yes but go ahead and

[00:56:13] ask the question the answer you think

[00:56:15] if you had rice

[00:56:17] you would have been able to beat Natalie

[00:56:19] in that challenge

[00:56:21] damn Bryce

[00:56:23] so I already answered that question

[00:56:25] but in ghost island

[00:56:27] I'll tell you what when we

[00:56:29] negotiated for rice and they took our

[00:56:31] whole shelter and like the

[00:56:33] towards the end of the season

[00:56:35] that rice helped us out a lot

[00:56:37] and we had plenty rice for the rest

[00:56:39] of the year we can eat as much rice

[00:56:41] as we wanted and

[00:56:43] your boy won the game with some rice

[00:56:45] thank you Bryce

[00:56:47] I will say shorter

[00:56:49] game though I don't know do you think the shorter

[00:56:51] game affects that window like

[00:56:53] I'm just curious because

[00:56:55] yeah with the shorter game

[00:56:57] they're still out there starving for however long

[00:56:59] how long have you been out there

[00:57:01] like eight days now

[00:57:03] that's what I'm saying they've been there for like a day and a half

[00:57:05] are we going to have

[00:57:07] hours now

[00:57:09] we got some rewards too that sprinkled in

[00:57:11] obviously would be great to have rice

[00:57:13] I don't know personally

[00:57:15] if I would ever sit out

[00:57:17] if it's a challenge that I know for a fact

[00:57:19] I'm not going to win

[00:57:21] but again I'm not going to take

[00:57:23] Q's position and like knock people who want to compete

[00:57:25] and also I would never ever give up

[00:57:27] my vote for some rice

[00:57:29] I thought they were going to be like

[00:57:31] I thought Jeff was maybe going to say okay

[00:57:33] Q and Liz are two people

[00:57:35] standing here we can take

[00:57:37] you know did he did he I can't remember

[00:57:39] if he said like okay you too could lose your

[00:57:41] vote and we can be done right now

[00:57:43] they like brought it up and

[00:57:45] it was they stepped up

[00:57:47] not under the assumption of like losing the vote

[00:57:49] it was more like right

[00:57:51] now if it's

[00:57:53] for people to get some rice

[00:57:55] how many people need to sit out for them to win some

[00:57:57] rice

[00:57:59] is that you think Q would sit out for some

[00:58:01] rice

[00:58:03] I would hope Hunter would

[00:58:07] I thought it was so funny at the end Charlie

[00:58:09] right before he drops

[00:58:11] he's like Jeff I got you right where I want

[00:58:13] to go

[00:58:15] I'm going to get some rice

[00:58:17] Charlie is so funny

[00:58:19] he's definitely

[00:58:21] he's down or on this season

[00:58:23] like stop talking about Taylor Swift

[00:58:25] I don't care

[00:58:27] I love it

[00:58:29] a question for the group

[00:58:31] at next tribal if Tiffany

[00:58:33] is not

[00:58:35] does she need to play her idol

[00:58:37] or should she try to risk it

[00:58:39] to live another day

[00:58:41] I don't know because obviously the fall out of this

[00:58:43] to be crazy who knows

[00:58:45] who's going to be the target but what I will say is

[00:58:47] I feel like especially in the new era

[00:58:49] when someone's idol actually becomes like

[00:58:51] common knowledge

[00:58:53] it actually takes a target off of them

[00:58:55] in a sense because everyone is now

[00:58:57] worried that they could play an idol

[00:58:59] and so they just sort of don't shift

[00:59:01] the target onto them I think that's happened

[00:59:03] a few times I mean it happened with

[00:59:05] Austin it happened with Zander

[00:59:07] it could happen it's happened

[00:59:09] with other people too I'm just thinking about my

[00:59:11] UChicago homies but

[00:59:13] it is like

[00:59:15] if you like someone well enough

[00:59:17] and they have an idol and they know

[00:59:19] that everyone knows that they have an idol so they might play it

[00:59:21] it's sort of like how do you ever hatch that plan

[00:59:23] with the numbers being

[00:59:25] this size to really pull off a blind side

[00:59:27] it could be very difficult so

[00:59:29] I think Tiffany will be able to

[00:59:31] get her feedback under her and be okay

[00:59:33] if Q wins immunity

[00:59:35] next episode which is a huge

[00:59:37] chance

[00:59:39] where do you think who's getting votes

[00:59:45] I mean it seems like

[00:59:47] anyone is fair game to him

[00:59:49] so like I'm having trouble

[00:59:51] like usually I like

[00:59:53] questions like that I like because it's like

[00:59:55] you learn how people think

[00:59:57] or react what the hell is Q going to do

[00:59:59] like anyone at any point

[01:00:01] can become the target maybe like a

[01:00:03] Liz could get it out soon

[01:00:05] because she sort of arrived last episode

[01:00:07] but it doesn't seem like

[01:00:09] she actually has that many close allies

[01:00:11] but now she's just organized this move

[01:00:13] to take out Tevin and in the new era

[01:00:15] especially we see a lot of like okay

[01:00:17] you're the person who steps up and makes a move

[01:00:19] now you're the new target and you get cut off

[01:00:21] and so I think it could be a Liz

[01:00:23] or it could be like a Ben

[01:00:25] because Ben is very social

[01:00:27] but he's not really tied in

[01:00:29] talking about Ben

[01:00:31] and Ben you know he hid well in hide and seek

[01:00:33] you know I mean

[01:00:35] if you could hide well in hide and seek

[01:00:37] you could hide well in this game

[01:00:39] how does that equate

[01:00:41] like I was just sitting there being like

[01:00:43] how does that equate

[01:00:45] like I've put enough leaves over my body

[01:00:47] which means I'm going to be the ultimate deceiver

[01:00:49] you know it's just like ah

[01:00:51] the logic is insane

[01:00:53] I didn't directly disagree with anything that

[01:00:55] Fiennes or Q concluded from the game

[01:00:57] right

[01:00:59] I think there's some truth to it

[01:01:01] Q to be like

[01:01:03] you put leaves over you

[01:01:05] big mistake

[01:01:07] the funniest thing about Q

[01:01:09] is that everybody in his eyes

[01:01:11] is

[01:01:13] an F up

[01:01:15] and so if everyone's making somebody mistakes

[01:01:17] and he's like target target target

[01:01:19] target target

[01:01:21] nobody's really a target because

[01:01:23] everyone is just a screw up

[01:01:25] but it's also how he's saying that

[01:01:27] goooooooool

[01:01:29] he didn't mess jack

[01:01:31] jack on a blue shirt

[01:01:33] cancel Christmas

[01:01:35] cancel Christmas

[01:01:37] right

[01:01:39] not cancel Christmas but here's another thing

[01:01:41] right hot take

[01:01:43] I the way

[01:01:45] that Q is willing

[01:01:47] to turn on his alliance

[01:01:49] hear me out

[01:01:51] I think that some people

[01:01:53] could take notes on right

[01:01:55] I do feel like sometimes in this

[01:01:57] new era especially I think of like James

[01:01:59] Jones this season where it's like

[01:02:01] people like

[01:02:03] you're just going with the status quo

[01:02:05] I'm not mad at some of the

[01:02:07] outlandish or like the way that Q

[01:02:09] is so easily like hey

[01:02:11] I could turn on like I'm not mad at that

[01:02:13] I do think that there is something

[01:02:15] good about that and that like players

[01:02:17] can utilize that where it's like

[01:02:19] it's not just we're taking

[01:02:21] out the numbers like we kind of like

[01:02:23] feel where people are at so it's like I'm not

[01:02:25] at the way Q kind of just jump ship

[01:02:27] from person to person to person

[01:02:29] I think that that can be

[01:02:31] helpful what I think to your point

[01:02:33] about going back and not to dive

[01:02:35] too much about why people are

[01:02:37] giving Q so much respect

[01:02:39] and I think a lot of that is a

[01:02:41] facade a mass agency

[01:02:43] I would say yeah yeah

[01:02:45] for me I think that

[01:02:47] Q has actually shown

[01:02:49] to be a very

[01:02:51] very loyal player until

[01:02:53] you give him any reason

[01:02:55] to think that you are not loyal

[01:02:57] and so

[01:02:59] for someone like a Charlie

[01:03:01] who's just been brought in even though

[01:03:03] you know that everything Q is saying is ridiculous

[01:03:05] I think the best thing you could do is just

[01:03:07] nod your head yes agree

[01:03:09] and make him feel good because you see that

[01:03:11] Q if someone happens to bring up

[01:03:13] something that goes against Q's plan

[01:03:15] at all that's when he turns

[01:03:17] on you full force like he did with

[01:03:19] Tiffany which is not

[01:03:21] a good game play necessarily

[01:03:23] but for me if I'm out there I'm like okay Q

[01:03:25] is just a loose kid

[01:03:27] but if he thinks that I'm with him he will be loyal

[01:03:29] and so you just

[01:03:31] have to fake it to him and be like

[01:03:33] Q I'm with you and then

[01:03:35] just let that ride

[01:03:37] but it doesn't even respect what he's saying

[01:03:39] it's just like how do you win Q over

[01:03:41] but what if you lie to him and say Charlie name

[01:03:43] and Charlie name say nothing like that's the problem

[01:03:45] with it though

[01:03:47] like say if Wendell says

[01:03:49] to Q that you

[01:03:51] said something you and Q are locked in

[01:03:53] you just say nothing but like Wendell just says well you know

[01:03:55] Jack said your name

[01:03:57] cancel Christmas

[01:03:59] when Kevin went to Q

[01:04:01] Q does have weird

[01:04:03] strokes of sanity like when

[01:04:05] Kevin went to Q to be like

[01:04:07] hey Tiffany is a

[01:04:09] little bit suspect about like she wants to keep

[01:04:11] being this round Q then goes to Tiffany

[01:04:13] and says who do you have your

[01:04:15] eyes on and then she throws out Maria

[01:04:17] but then that was a

[01:04:19] test like he didn't actually have a conversation

[01:04:21] with him he was like oh she said Maria

[01:04:23] I'm not even going to engage in asking

[01:04:25] why or being like I don't say

[01:04:27] that it's a good move but

[01:04:29] he did do his research

[01:04:31] with Tiffany to see hey

[01:04:33] is she gonna throw out someone in the six

[01:04:35] also when you are just

[01:04:37] when you just can't test people

[01:04:39] like you just can't be out here like

[01:04:41] is he what time is it

[01:04:43] is he what time is it

[01:04:45] that's a mistake Wendell

[01:04:47] what time are we leaving for Chicago

[01:04:49] as soon as

[01:04:51] the airplane allows us

[01:04:53] that's a mistake Jack

[01:04:55] who name a

[01:04:57] perfume

[01:04:59] Dior

[01:05:01] that's a mistake like for me it's like

[01:05:03] if you're just constantly testing your alliance

[01:05:05] where's the

[01:05:07] conversation because in the end we see

[01:05:09] Tiffany go to him and if she's really

[01:05:11] against you she's saying hey

[01:05:13] you should probably write

[01:05:15] Kevin's name down because

[01:05:17] if they see you

[01:05:19] not writing his name down like so it's like

[01:05:21] okay here's the thing

[01:05:23] I'm with you I don't think

[01:05:25] he's good

[01:05:27] I'm just saying like him turning

[01:05:29] on Tiffany is

[01:05:31] such a bad idea but

[01:05:33] I'm going back to the reason as

[01:05:35] why people are appeased him so much

[01:05:37] is because you see how

[01:05:39] volatile he is

[01:05:41] if you think that he is

[01:05:43] but we have seen that if he thinks you are loyal

[01:05:45] to him and his plan of

[01:05:47] the six then he's not going to turn on

[01:05:49] you until he has a reason

[01:05:51] wait hey I want to ask this

[01:05:53] question to Wendell right now because it's pertinent I feel

[01:05:55] like after all this like

[01:05:57] I get what you're saying it was the same on big brother

[01:05:59] like you sit for the live

[01:06:01] episode and everyone knows what they're voting like the

[01:06:03] goodbye you know like your last

[01:06:05] speech means nothing right everyone

[01:06:07] knows what they're voting but

[01:06:09] if you were sitting at that tribal

[01:06:11] would that be a type of

[01:06:13] tribal that would

[01:06:15] like would you bring in

[01:06:17] yeah like if you were going into that tribal

[01:06:19] and you're like okay yeah I'm in on the tevin plan

[01:06:21] Q does his thing

[01:06:23] you've been feeling weird with you because I think

[01:06:25] everyone's got their weird

[01:06:27] you know things sensing his volatility

[01:06:29] his like all of this

[01:06:31] would that be a type of tribal

[01:06:33] that would change your mind like because you were

[01:06:35] saying like not people go and like that's why

[01:06:37] Tevin ultimately went but I'm curious like

[01:06:39] that seemed wild

[01:06:41] that things didn't change after that

[01:06:43] I think a Q is tied into

[01:06:45] so many people's plans right now

[01:06:47] at least short-term plans

[01:06:49] I think if we think about last season

[01:06:51] who did it Sean did it

[01:06:53] when he like

[01:06:55] vote for me and I think D was like

[01:06:57] I'ma still vote the way I

[01:06:59] wanted to vote like you could

[01:07:01] want to go home but my plans

[01:07:03] are but I'm not saying like

[01:07:05] about honoring his wishes I don't give a fuck

[01:07:07] about his wishes but I mean like in the terms

[01:07:09] of like do you think

[01:07:11] it like you really y'all

[01:07:13] really don't think it would it's benefits

[01:07:15] everyone else on the tribe for them to have voted

[01:07:17] Q out last night what I'm saying

[01:07:19] is this like

[01:07:21] no matter what if I'm sitting

[01:07:23] there I think a Tevin is more of a threat

[01:07:25] than Q hold on

[01:07:27] Brian I agree I agree with you

[01:07:29] in my game and

[01:07:31] I've said this every week now I

[01:07:33] played with a Q type of a character in Chris

[01:07:35] Noble

[01:07:37] I knew you were out of the scene

[01:07:39] he of course

[01:07:41] he was going to bring Chris

[01:07:43] sorry is he they've been eating him up in the

[01:07:45] not Chris Noble

[01:07:47] every episode he bring him up

[01:07:49] this is the kind of person

[01:07:51] that if you don't cut off

[01:07:53] his momentum he's gonna

[01:07:55] get as far as Q got and have all of these

[01:07:57] things and all these people attach him

[01:07:59] in our case we were trying to get this guy

[01:08:01] to be like he's been in the

[01:08:03] queue for a long time and we finally got him at

[01:08:05] the merge but at the merge

[01:08:07] he corralled everyone except for

[01:08:09] dominant myself and almost had them vote for

[01:08:11] us like these players

[01:08:13] they're so they're like

[01:08:15] they're they're dominant players

[01:08:17] as far as like

[01:08:19] they can talk to you and just like

[01:08:21] you kind of just like want to be like

[01:08:23] alright bud and

[01:08:25] in this case with Q

[01:08:27] I think I think we're at a point

[01:08:29] Q is kind of

[01:08:31] a little

[01:08:33] bit but he's part of my

[01:08:35] plan right now he's not threatening

[01:08:37] my plan and okay he wants

[01:08:39] to go home right now and if you ask

[01:08:41] me I think he wanted to go home to kind of

[01:08:43] do something noble because he understood that

[01:08:45] he messed up a lot of his

[01:08:47] allies games but

[01:08:49] at that point if

[01:08:51] I'm if he was part of my

[01:08:53] plan I'm like nah bruh you're just doing

[01:08:55] a little kooky thing right now we're gonna

[01:08:57] sleep on this and we're gonna reconvene

[01:08:59] so I don't know if

[01:09:01] after that like I could ever feel like

[01:09:03] he was a part of my thing

[01:09:05] you know

[01:09:07] yeah you can't feel like

[01:09:09] you can really trust them whatever

[01:09:11] but I'd rather get this more

[01:09:13] imminent threat out right now and

[01:09:15] worry about a Q later

[01:09:17] okay yes I yeah it's just what

[01:09:19] I think we think I think we really see it differently

[01:09:21] because which is okay it's just wild

[01:09:23] because I don't see Tevin corraling

[01:09:25] anyone the fact that Q

[01:09:27] can corral people to me

[01:09:29] is more of an imminent threat

[01:09:31] than Tevin but yeah yeah

[01:09:33] I get what you're saying for sure

[01:09:35] but now if your Q has kind of tanked

[01:09:37] his game so you get out Tevin who actually

[01:09:39] has like win

[01:09:41] potential now it's like

[01:09:43] Q as well maybe and maybe

[01:09:45] there's a reason to cut him out because he's so chaotic

[01:09:47] but it's like you cut out

[01:09:49] Tevin who could win but you keep a Q

[01:09:51] who like probably can't win

[01:09:53] maybe if you use kind of on your side

[01:09:55] then that gives you more options going forward

[01:09:57] a question

[01:09:59] what you say

[01:10:01] win I said but Q is Tony

[01:10:03] everything

[01:10:05] is intentional and he's gonna win

[01:10:07] that is true

[01:10:09] who will take credit

[01:10:11] for Tevin going home

[01:10:13] literally no one

[01:10:15] no one deserves credit

[01:10:17] but Q

[01:10:19] you know and true but here's the thing

[01:10:21] this is also why

[01:10:23] y'all can say whatever y'all want to say about Venus's game

[01:10:25] but her arc

[01:10:27] she racking up things

[01:10:29] her arc in this season

[01:10:31] eats down

[01:10:33] like for her to be at the back

[01:10:35] of her tribe them not really wanting

[01:10:37] to work with her for her to be on the merge

[01:10:39] and to say that boom boom

[01:10:41] she could out two people

[01:10:43] I just feel like Venus is gonna

[01:10:45] come back to that trap

[01:10:47] but Venus is gonna come back

[01:10:49] she gonna be on top of the world

[01:10:51] y'all ain't gonna be able to like

[01:10:53] I just feel like Venus is gonna be like

[01:10:55] what y'all wanna do now

[01:10:57] I don't know I just feel like

[01:10:59] but there's something that I admire

[01:11:01] about her cockiness

[01:11:03] her like grittiness

[01:11:05] y'all can say whatever y'all want to say about her game play

[01:11:07] but I'm just speaking as

[01:11:09] like a gay

[01:11:11] that wants to love

[01:11:13] a legendary queen

[01:11:15] out here

[01:11:17] I want to give it to Venus because she is just

[01:11:19] the way that

[01:11:21] Venus went up to Tevin

[01:11:23] and was like hey

[01:11:25] we ain't really been working together

[01:11:27] but like you try to get on a money team

[01:11:29] or not like you try to get on a win it

[01:11:31] like

[01:11:33] what you gave him advice was hilarious

[01:11:35] advice

[01:11:37] you don't really understand this

[01:11:39] strategic component of this game Tevin

[01:11:41] but I can teach you

[01:11:43] come come with mother

[01:11:45] like but there's just

[01:11:47] something about that like again

[01:11:49] people get bogged down into

[01:11:51] the strategic of it all but for me

[01:11:55] I think she's so fun

[01:11:57] yeah I don't I think her game plays

[01:11:59] really messy but I actually like this episode

[01:12:01] her ability to just be like

[01:12:03] someone comes in with a plan and she's like

[01:12:05] okay that works for me I'm down and then like leave it there

[01:12:07] like that was a good episode

[01:12:09] for Venus as much as

[01:12:11] I knock her gameplay

[01:12:13] she does have good strategic instincts and she is

[01:12:15] really a force of driving

[01:12:17] entertainment so she's a great

[01:12:19] presence on the season like no doubt

[01:12:21] I empathize with her I feel

[01:12:23] I like really felt

[01:12:25] for her pre-merge when it just

[01:12:27] felt at least you know I'm curious

[01:12:29] to know what really it was like on the beach

[01:12:31] but like from what we

[01:12:33] saw it felt very much like she was just

[01:12:35] begging people to engage with her

[01:12:37] and they just weren't which to me

[01:12:39] is bad survivor on their part

[01:12:41] you know what I mean like how dare you not just

[01:12:45] be at least cordial or have conversations

[01:12:47] with people even if ultimately

[01:12:49] it's a bullshit conversation or you don't

[01:12:51] want to work with them like that's fine

[01:12:53] they shouldn't know that right I mean so

[01:12:55] I do feel like Venus is like coming into

[01:12:57] her like perfect

[01:12:59] like resurrected like villain

[01:13:01] era where she's like I don't give a fuck

[01:13:03] y'all

[01:13:05] don't give a fuck about me and so guess what

[01:13:07] I don't like that you're talking over there I'm gonna walk

[01:13:09] there because there's no rules so like I'm

[01:13:11] gonna stand right here you know like

[01:13:13] really feel like Venus is in her

[01:13:15] when Molly Cyrus turn black

[01:13:17] for like that era and like you know I feel like

[01:13:19] that's where Venus is right now

[01:13:21] you know what wishes

[01:13:23] like right but was wrecking ball

[01:13:25] not a jam okay like

[01:13:27] like I'm just saying like I

[01:13:29] I receive it also

[01:13:31] on another level right I do feel

[01:13:33] like I

[01:13:35] can confidently say after these

[01:13:37] episodes right like

[01:13:39] uh

[01:13:41] Charlie and Dr. Maria

[01:13:43] like

[01:13:45] I

[01:13:47] I'm still like I still

[01:13:49] have Kinsey as my winner pick however

[01:13:51] after this episode

[01:13:53] and seeing Dr. Maria and Charlie

[01:13:55] and just like the episode or just

[01:13:57] the scenes where they were kind of like discussing things

[01:13:59] and like how they should move forward and different stuff

[01:14:01] it just really got me seeing Dr. Maria

[01:14:03] like she's moving like a winner

[01:14:05] Charlie has always been moving like a

[01:14:07] winner in my opinion so it's like it's really

[01:14:09] kind of like

[01:14:11] the big three but I do

[01:14:13] feel like that conversation that they had

[01:14:15] was the most um

[01:14:17] tangible sort of long term like

[01:14:19] real they were working together like

[01:14:21] they you can feel that they actually are

[01:14:23] allies that they

[01:14:25] that they are partners in this

[01:14:27] and that I love to see like that I feel like that

[01:14:29] element I feel like I'm

[01:14:31] you know like missing from this season

[01:14:33] or something you know a little bit

[01:14:35] you know they were crisis managing

[01:14:37] right and again like managing

[01:14:39] the crisis but long term

[01:14:41] not just dealing with the crisis in it in itself

[01:14:43] and so I uh I enjoy

[01:14:45] seeing that yeah same

[01:14:47] what anything

[01:14:49] else you got Jack

[01:14:51] nah just I'm just taking it all

[01:14:53] in I was a wild episode is

[01:14:55] like so there's so much going on in my mind

[01:14:57] but I think we covered everything pretty

[01:14:59] well and I'm really excited to see

[01:15:01] where things move from here because things

[01:15:03] are for sure wrapping up

[01:15:05] alright so I do have another question

[01:15:07] oh no

[01:15:09] so Jack I think earlier

[01:15:11] in the episode you said something about Q's

[01:15:13] game like he doesn't really know what he's doing he's so chaotic

[01:15:15] in this and that

[01:15:17] should there be

[01:15:19] a justice

[01:15:21] for bondu hashtag

[01:15:23] oh

[01:15:25] uh in what in what sense

[01:15:27] I'm just saying like if all of the

[01:15:29] the

[01:15:31] adjectives that you use to describe

[01:15:33] Q's game plan I felt like were a lot of

[01:15:35] adjectives that people have for bondu

[01:15:37] like he doesn't know what he's doing

[01:15:39] he's out here like you know you say oh bondu

[01:15:41] just spilled the beans

[01:15:43] Q spilled the beans about his closest ally

[01:15:45] this episode Q going back

[01:15:47] and fly I don't know like

[01:15:49] well I think

[01:15:51] I think obviously you know

[01:15:53] Q his whole plan when he was coaching

[01:15:55] bondu was to give bond

[01:15:57] who misinformation so bondu would tank

[01:15:59] his own game

[01:16:01] I mean I think bondu was a mess and getting

[01:16:03] coaching from Q

[01:16:05] what's the blind leading the blind

[01:16:07] blind

[01:16:09] well I think a little don't you think like a little bit of

[01:16:11] is a little bit of it is

[01:16:13] optics like we've been talking about where

[01:16:15] like I think Q and bondu

[01:16:17] both are emotional players right

[01:16:19] like they both are like reactionary

[01:16:21] and like emotional but bondu

[01:16:23] bondu's emotions came

[01:16:25] out in a more like

[01:16:27] teary more like

[01:16:29] oh for lack of a better word like a pathetic

[01:16:31] kind of like you just like want to

[01:16:33] you want to swaddle him or something

[01:16:35] you want to like take care of him and Q's

[01:16:37] comes out in a more

[01:16:39] like defensive sort of like macho way

[01:16:41] and so unfortunately

[01:16:43] I think like from the optics

[01:16:45] of that bondu is going to get screwed every time

[01:16:47] and Q is going to get

[01:16:49] put on a pedestal you know in some way

[01:16:51] so I guess in that way I could put

[01:16:53] a little justice for bond I mean justice for

[01:16:55] y'all know just

[01:16:57] yes just

[01:16:59] you know

[01:17:01] here's my Jerry Springer last thought right

[01:17:03] as to why

[01:17:05] I am not mad at Q

[01:17:07] Q has been

[01:17:09] Q since day

[01:17:11] one we just like he

[01:17:13] out here he's been killing

[01:17:15] people he's been a murderer since day one

[01:17:17] we just didn't recognize the signs

[01:17:19] because like

[01:17:21] I don't know if you can

[01:17:23] look how he switched on

[01:17:25] Jalinsky and I said that on the first episode

[01:17:27] it's like I know you want to get rid of Jalinsky

[01:17:29] because you said like he's weak

[01:17:31] we can't trust him but I'm like

[01:17:33] but I still feel like you can

[01:17:35] and and and and

[01:17:37] you after that second episode Q

[01:17:39] came back and said he was quit

[01:17:41] then when he was laying out on a thing like

[01:17:43] here's the thing like where everyone's like so

[01:17:45] surprised but Q has really been

[01:17:47] Q this whole time

[01:17:49] So again, for this episode, it did something for me in Q

[01:17:52] where it's like, he's been Q.

[01:17:57] We just had like, he's almost been like,

[01:17:59] what's the opposite of hiding a plain sight?

[01:18:01] Like it's like, you're not even hiding.

[01:18:05] Like again, that was the test.

[01:18:06] He like play hard and seek, but I don't want you to hide

[01:18:10] if there's no seek.

[01:18:14] Well, I mean, that's why it's like, yeah,

[01:18:15] maybe I don't even fault Q that much anymore

[01:18:17] at this point, because of his consistency.

[01:18:19] But I fault all other nine people.

[01:18:23] That's who I'm faulting.

[01:18:25] And again, to Q's point, mistake.

[01:18:29] Everybody making a mistake, but Q.

[01:18:33] Wow.

[01:18:34] Hashtag mistake.

[01:18:35] This season is mistake.

[01:18:38] I, whenever...

[01:18:41] I don't listen to a lot of exit interviews like live,

[01:18:44] but whenever Q gives his exit interview as the winner,

[01:18:48] or whenever he goes, I cannot wait to tune into that

[01:18:52] to hear Q's story because I just feel like

[01:18:57] who was it? President Carter or President Nixon?

[01:18:59] The fireside chats.

[01:19:01] Cause I want to tune in to like, to hear Q.

[01:19:05] We need a Q deep dive on survivor news.

[01:19:08] Her ball.

[01:19:09] Oh damn.

[01:19:11] Yeah. I'm, ultimately I'm sad Tevin ended up going

[01:19:15] cause I thought there was a lot more from him

[01:19:18] that I wanted to see and yeah.

[01:19:22] He's the one that made me go flowers

[01:19:23] cause he was so fun, such a great narrator, a sharp player.

[01:19:28] And I hope we get some more Tevin

[01:19:30] cause I really thought he was gonna go farther

[01:19:32] in the game and we were gonna see him really rise

[01:19:35] to the occasion, but I thought Tevin could have won.

[01:19:37] So...

[01:19:38] Yeah. And I, you know, the, I don't know.

[01:19:40] Maybe this is like, it's like, I don't want to bring it up.

[01:19:42] It's like, how do we bring it up with last minutes

[01:19:44] or whatever, but I'm not happy with Tim, Soda, Tevin.

[01:19:49] Boom, boom, boom.

[01:19:51] I'm not like, I'm not happy about it.

[01:19:52] You know, so...

[01:19:54] After making history?

[01:19:55] I know. And I know.

[01:19:56] And actually when I, when I like read the first tweet

[01:20:00] that said, and I was like, oh snap,

[01:20:01] like this is fucking epic.

[01:20:02] This is true.

[01:20:04] The my first, I hate that my gut instinct was,

[01:20:06] damn, I think it's not,

[01:20:08] this is not gonna be the cookout season of Survivor,

[01:20:10] which I was kind of hoping for.

[01:20:12] But anyway.

[01:20:13] I agree.

[01:20:14] And I thank you for even bringing that up Izzy

[01:20:15] because I think that again,

[01:20:17] I don't think anybody is targeting or whatever,

[01:20:19] but I think that it deserves something to be said, right?

[01:20:24] So I second that, but also Tevin,

[01:20:29] I think that he was a phenomenal player.

[01:20:33] He was the voice of this season.

[01:20:36] They need to play this intro for every season.

[01:20:38] For every season.

[01:20:40] I call him Tevin Angelo

[01:20:41] because he speaks like Maya Angelo.

[01:20:44] He was so funny.

[01:20:45] He showed up as his full authentic self.

[01:20:47] We saw that he was a challenge beast.

[01:20:49] We saw that he could make alliances.

[01:20:50] We saw like so many things.

[01:20:52] And again, I just, for me,

[01:20:55] I was so happy that Jam won his season.

[01:20:59] But for me to see a,

[01:21:00] just someone who I could relate to look like me,

[01:21:05] sound like me.

[01:21:06] And again, for him being himself,

[01:21:08] not to be a liability

[01:21:10] and for them to actually take him out the game blindsided,

[01:21:14] not because he's other,

[01:21:16] but because he is a legitimate target in a threat to that.

[01:21:20] Tevin, I take my hat off

[01:21:22] and I am so proud to be a part of this survivor franchise

[01:21:26] that I personally can witness something like a Tevin playing

[01:21:30] and I love Tevin and I stand for Tevin

[01:21:32] and I hope that he knows that he was a legitimate threat,

[01:21:36] no mistake.

[01:21:37] And he is the king and yeah, I'm just so happy

[01:21:41] we had people like a Tevin.

[01:21:42] And if there is a second chance

[01:21:43] is I hope that his name is at the top of the list.

[01:21:47] Absolutely, yeah.

[01:21:50] We love you Tevin.

[01:21:51] We love you Tevin, yeah.

[01:21:53] Yes, anything else, Jack?

[01:21:57] No, but the floor's open if anyone wants,

[01:22:00] yeah, I'm excited.

[01:22:03] That's all.

[01:22:04] You know what?

[01:22:05] I put my model on too.

[01:22:07] Feels like a dresser.

[01:22:09] It does.

[01:22:11] It really kind of like...

[01:22:14] Yeah, the opening though.

[01:22:16] Ah, no, is it?

[01:22:20] Yeah, actually, would still sit there, okay?

[01:22:21] Because you know what?

[01:22:23] I decided the hood should be the other way.

[01:22:25] Yeah, Jack is right.

[01:22:27] Jack is right.

[01:22:28] But Izzy, thank you so much for joining us this week.

[01:22:31] It was such a great and fun discussion.

[01:22:33] Jackery is always amazing.

[01:22:35] Wendyzy, thank you so much.

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