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[00:02:50] Hello, hello and welcome to the purple pants podcast survivor news edition.

[00:03:03] Episode 367 dig deep.

[00:03:06] I serve as your humble and also gracious host Bryce Isaiah

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[00:03:51] I'm excited to be joined this week with when DZ Jack Atkins and Alex Brasard from Netflix

[00:03:59] the Circle season four we are here this week talking all things by new and what happened there

[00:04:06] we're talking tribal we're talking the challenge we're talking who's beware idol is this that

[00:04:12] I found so much so listen let's get into this week's survivor news.

[00:04:19] survivor news survivor news survivor news survivor news

[00:04:43] gots how are we doing today welcome back to another episode of the purple pants podcast survivor news

[00:04:51] we are cracking in the episode four and as always I got the baby boys with me the first merge

[00:05:00] group of survivor winners at war but you may also know them as the winner of survivor ghost

[00:05:04] island the boy when they'll haul in how we doing.

[00:05:07] Do well do well how you doing?

[00:05:10] doing well I guess I'm doing the intro today as always your glorious leader

[00:05:17] the one and only Bryce Isaiah how are we doing right?

[00:05:23] I'm wonderful was popping was popping uh and then I guess the reason I'm doing my the

[00:05:29] intro today because we got my main man from the circle popping in with us to do a survivor breakdown

[00:05:37] Alex Guzard from the circle season four how are you?

[00:05:41] I am doing well I do need to be honest with you guys I did tell the other tribe that

[00:05:46] Wendell was a really good player and I did say that Jack and Bryce were really close.

[00:05:51] Was that bad? Should I not have done that? Was that not a good thing to do?

[00:05:56] Yeah I did do that though.

[00:05:58] Guys let's poke him out.

[00:05:59] Two now.

[00:06:01] Alex is out of here.

[00:06:04] No I'm happy to be here glad I told you guys before we got on here we have a lot to discuss

[00:06:09] good bad all the Bony we got a lot so I'm excited to be here.

[00:06:14] Yes it is an episode with a lot of discussion that we need to talk about but before we get into

[00:06:21] all of that you know Alex we got some house rules and some house announcements that we got

[00:06:25] to get through because the Bryce and Wendell tour 46 is officially kicked off we have New York done

[00:06:31] we've got DC done and we are headed to Pittsburgh April 3rd and Pittsburgh definitely shows up

[00:06:39] and so listen if you know Pittsburgh you know and then April 10th we are headed to Dallas

[00:06:44] this ain't Texas and so we have a lot of surprise and special guests coming to Dallas so if you haven't

[00:06:52] already take this as your science a click the link in the Bryce and Wendell present

[00:06:57] Instagram or Twitter and bless you live with some BWP tour 46 when easy what you think?

[00:07:05] I think both of these dates are going to be great.

[00:07:08] The tour only gets better and better as we go so Pittsburgh we got some great surprises

[00:07:13] Dallas same thing we've been putting together our all-star lineup for both of these places it's

[00:07:18] going to be great and and all roads lead to the finale Bryce. Yeah it's a destination in New

[00:07:25] York City you guys need to come get some hotel stay for a couple days we're gonna have multiple

[00:07:30] nights of events and yeah and each and every event leading up to the finale is gonna get bigger

[00:07:38] and better until we get there. So don't disrespect Boston because Boston comes in with a force

[00:07:44] and don't you dare disrespect Philadelphia because those stops are definitely stops that you know

[00:07:51] if you can make it come out and experience the fun of a Bryce and Wendell present event.

[00:08:01] Which I just I've seen that Uber driver but yes Chicago is going to be one heck of a time

[00:08:09] before we kick things off Alex I do have a question for you. Yeah please do you know where Kate

[00:08:15] Middleton is? Oh gosh you know I've been on Twitter I've been doing my detective work I was actually

[00:08:21] gonna ask you guys do you think it would be easier or harder to define Tim on this season?

[00:08:27] I was wondering like Kate or Tim it might be a little difficult so we'll have to put on our detective

[00:08:32] hats. Alex! When you go to one of those challenges. Yeah that's true. You see Tim and the

[00:08:39] challenges but it's not a body double like the TMZ photos of Kate so yeah gosh I don't know where

[00:08:46] she is honestly honestly it's probably just the worst PR disaster. I know this is the

[00:08:52] vibrant youth though but Alex have you ever seen the crown? Yeah yeah not I'm not finished but I mean

[00:08:57] I guess I know the history of it all so spoilers. It's crazy seeing the crown crown in 4k like

[00:09:05] it's like y'all really thought we was going to believe that that was Kate like it was bad it

[00:09:11] was very clearly photoshopped. Did Bano think that if he took came came with the truth like they would

[00:09:19] be like okay Bano classic Bano. You know you like that transition. Alright Jack take it away what

[00:09:30] we got what we cooking today man what are we cooking with 46 not all up but you're trying to get

[00:09:42] Andy watch watch out Andy learned his lesson you better be careful Jack Andy learned the lesson

[00:09:48] the hard way. Bryce is cooking something I am cooking if you guys are hungry I do have a pair

[00:10:00] of hodo wait I brought out these are Corey war ends okay if y'all are hungry I am cooking on a

[00:10:10] stove this yeah can you hurry up we need to cook some rice in that when you're done yeah there's

[00:10:17] some man I mean now I maybe it's not something we see did you guys boil your clothes like that so

[00:10:27] I have seen people do that the nine days that I was out there we just kind of washed our stuff

[00:10:32] what I would do in the ocean and yeah but I will you know I mean I would like to know what

[00:10:42] often Bryce tasted we got to figure out did they do that last season that's the real question I'll

[00:10:50] give you some I'll give I'll give some game to some future survivor players the way I wash my clothes

[00:10:57] if you we talk about in the game and not on ex out I would it's crazy because when I ended up on

[00:11:06] the edge of extinction that was still three times longer in the game than Bryce but you wait okay

[00:11:13] but coming from winning and in the first merge boot is still like I don't know Jack what is the

[00:11:18] statistics on that but it's the first merge boot better than the third pre-merge boot because that's

[00:11:23] what we need to start referring to you as I mean you know prior to did you make it three episodes

[00:11:31] well listen that's a trick question okay because the first episode it got me up for two hours

[00:11:37] but that's two episodes we don't know man didn't even make it to anyone in time to

[00:11:44] gentlemen um ladies and gentlemen whoever comes after us if you want to wash your clothes on

[00:11:49] survivor here in the med box they have a gigantic thing of hand sanitizer my strategy was

[00:11:58] and I wore jeans on the island and that's debatable eyes to whether or not that's a good strategy my

[00:12:03] strategy was I take my jeans to the med box and I take that hand sanitizer and just loaded up on

[00:12:09] the jeans fold them up bring them to the ocean and scrub it in the ocean let that sit out and they

[00:12:16] smell great and they're clean I think smells big out there thank you that's what you do I mean

[00:12:29] great provider for the tribe hey but somebody gets a cut but where's the head sanitizer

[00:12:37] when does user get to wash his hands it's an unlimited stash the tub is like this big

[00:12:42] advanced and you could bathe in the hand sanitizer that's a window when I picked you up from your house

[00:12:48] the other day is that was you use the washer clothes because sorry I mean we can off to a rough

[00:12:54] star but if you want to do that let's go ahead Jack I Jack when it was like my car is in the shop

[00:13:00] can you take me to Lose I'm like okay Jack and Alex he got in my car and mind you I'm the king of

[00:13:08] smells right like Jack I know what you smell like Alex I've never met you in person but like I just

[00:13:12] picture it I I I've just a smeller and window normally does not have a scent and it's like

[00:13:20] listen I've smelled window of clothes before like he doesn't have a scent

[00:13:26] he got in my car I was like this is interesting

[00:13:34] Bryce you're lying see this is the thing I was like when do like

[00:13:39] you got trash in your pants like Bryce oh first Bryce you know what

[00:13:46] you do like this we're we're gonna compare my smell to the smell of your car not too much okay not too

[00:13:54] much take that been in my car Jack did my car smell I don't have a good sense of smells

[00:14:00] I mean I've been in your car check out the king of smells Bryce like you okay all right

[00:14:07] snowler Jack you need to teach Paul knew how to give answers that was a really good answer for tribal

[00:14:13] thank you we're just we're all just here by then

[00:14:21] Jeff the inflection was perfect yeah I'm I am I'm chilling with the homie

[00:14:28] the hard G on chilling and so yeah I guess we'll get into it this is kind of what the episode

[00:14:41] is a bed like though is well I don't want to throw shade it's like just random conversations going

[00:14:47] down like that much through line and that's kind of what we're doing right now I do have hopes for

[00:14:53] the season look I don't want to knock it but it is it has been rough so far in my opinion and I know

[00:14:59] Alex you referenced I guess Andy Heron from Big Brother with Dean said something about it

[00:15:03] and I guess they came for his neck yeah well what mess with them right before he's 46ers I think

[00:15:09] you know pretty objectively speaking the so far it hasn't been too hot and so I think if I were you

[00:15:15] I'd rather be like look it started a little slow but it's gonna get hot you know what I mean not

[00:15:20] wait wait does it's like okay we're all right but if you're out here being like

[00:15:26] the red is better better back with electric this is our great season like

[00:15:32] but it's kind of like all right I think we might be a little bit biased and I mean shout to my

[00:15:36] guy Jolinski on ironically the best part of the season so far I'll say what I

[00:15:42] think Jack said I'll finish what Andy Heron started yeah Andy through the log

[00:15:48] it's like eight to a burn but I still have high hopes here's the thing like going into neck not

[00:15:54] to get too far ahead but you know next episode we're gonna get one of three things we're gonna get

[00:15:59] yawning three hats to split up the tribal or we're gonna get a fresh seagull or nami tribal and I'm

[00:16:05] very interested to see how those tribes will play out so I'm hoping that next episode really

[00:16:08] gets the ball rolling um but I I didn't hate this episode it's just yeah there hasn't been a lot of

[00:16:16] real action so far can I just want to really get really quick rice um uh to all the friends

[00:16:22] of the show that might be on survivor 46 um the thoughts and views

[00:16:27] I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm going home for Jack you guys as a unit come for Jack

[00:16:34] this is Jack Twitter you know Jack can't Jack can't I want 21 21

[00:16:42] Jack can't get it okay just know you know that here here's why I'll stand by like it's not me saying

[00:16:48] oh this cast is terrible it's there's the sound bite there's the sound knock it's it's okay

[00:16:55] you know the second tribal episode is really long it kind of dragged in the bruise for you

[00:17:00] predictable episode three unfortunately we get a random out of that there's no interesting tribal

[00:17:06] and then here we don't even have a vote so it's like I'm not mad at any of the players I'm not

[00:17:11] blaming the cast but someone it's not gonna see the fend why those three last episodes were good

[00:17:17] I think you have a really hard talk I'm hoping to bridge these these two opinions here and find

[00:17:24] the middle ground I think it does not feel like the game has progressed a whole lot we spent two

[00:17:33] hours on a jolinsky boot that maybe should have been banu then we spent two hours on a Jess vote

[00:17:39] that maybe should have been banu and then we have spent these last two episodes so three hours

[00:17:45] on a banu vote out so it does not really feel like there has been a whole lot of forward progress

[00:17:52] in the season and I'm hoping this was almost like the damn has broken and like Jack said

[00:17:57] the game can move on from here and I know there's a lot of people that are being harsh on banu and

[00:18:01] I'm joking around on him but I would much rather see banu like more banu is out there than just

[00:18:08] you know 18 complete game bots the whole time yes yeah I also I have a take I don't think

[00:18:15] personally the season has been as bad as the critics right I do believe it has been slow right

[00:18:22] but ain't nothing wrong with slow and steady and what I find really interesting then I've said

[00:18:28] this before with the 90 minutes the edits the cracks the glimpses of the things that they are showing

[00:18:34] us amongst this slow motion right for me is I'm salivating did I say damn right okay

[00:18:46] I love you no so I'm so salivating salivating salivating salivating salivating

[00:18:56] with you okay I am Austin at the mouth as this like these cracks right because

[00:19:06] they are telling us a story right and it's like if y'all they are deceptive in the edits

[00:19:10] right like we know this right and so it's like it's a game of clue it's a game of puzzle

[00:19:14] They are dropping little nuggets like player ready player one they're dropping little nuggets and I'm picking up all of them

[00:19:22] And like you said when the damn overflows I have things that I am queuing in on I have players in my mind that I'm like, oh

[00:19:31] I need to see what they want to do. Oh, what's going to happen here? Oh, what's going to happen here?

[00:19:35] And so for me it's like a murder mystery and

[00:19:38] You know

[00:19:40] The dinner just got served

[00:19:42] Yeah, yeah, this was the first act. Yeah

[00:19:46] I totally agree with that and I still have high hopes for the season

[00:19:49] But I that was my so far like I think Alex is proud to first perfectly

[00:19:54] Within probably half an hour of the premiere we could have been like okay

[00:19:57] Bonny Joinsky and Jess are in tough shape and it's been about

[00:20:02] Five hours of that

[00:20:03] And I actually liked Bonny a lot

[00:20:05] I thought he was super entertaining and had a lot of art

[00:20:07] I know if you've found one I hate so far

[00:20:10] But I love what brought me about to the table but at the same time

[00:20:13] I can't do that forever. I saw a statistic wendell in four episodes

[00:20:18] Bonu had three fewer confessions than you had all of ghost. I

[00:20:23] That is a crazy

[00:20:27] He had 35 professionals in four episodes

[00:20:29] Here's another thing that I was thinking about Bonu

[00:20:32] I was like they don't even need to pull him for confessionals his external monologues

[00:20:39] They weren't the best the camera was just

[00:20:42] Yeah, close me to dig deep

[00:20:47] No, it's great. He like tried to manifest his own clue

[00:20:50] I'm digging deep right now Jeff this has to be the right spot right

[00:20:54] Please I think I'll throw an idol in that holy just made

[00:21:01] Yeah, I thought Bonny was a had some all-time lines like it was it was tough to watch

[00:21:06] But it was incredible. I mean when he questioned his religion

[00:21:13] That's like six of my notes right here

[00:21:15] This bonu question in God

[00:21:18] Not questioning God

[00:21:20] Bonu was in a fight big guy

[00:21:24] Do get down here

[00:21:27] The biggest blindside so far this season with God turning on body

[00:21:37] Wait

[00:21:39] That was really fascinating though if I'm being honest we've never seen that and we will never see that again

[00:21:43] I feel like but here's the thing as funny as it is right

[00:21:48] Have you ever been working on a project? How have you ever been typing your midterm and your

[00:21:54] You didn't plug your computer up and you lose everything like you'll be like what the like I kind of felt the

[00:22:01] Realness in that because there have been times that I have had to ask little baby

[00:22:06] Jesus what's up? Why would you have me type this whole paper just a deleting God why

[00:22:12] So I do want to examine his question though. He said

[00:22:16] Why would you have put me on survivor if it was only if it was only to be this short god and I was like wow

[00:22:27] Here's here's what my only issue with that is is like jolensky didn't ask God that question neither did Jess

[00:22:34] Randon had the most right to ask out of anyone and

[00:22:38] Balu was like why why only nine days and

[00:22:43] Because I was doing some light rewatching Balu even admits to one point he goes I was praying

[00:22:50] Saying God if you're real give me a sign. He he was doing more

[00:22:55] Negotiating with God and then he was his other tribe mates

[00:23:00] But listen not to get too like you know spiritual

[00:23:03] You know he may not come where you want him, but he'll be there always on time and sometimes he doesn't give you what you want

[00:23:10] But what you need as so it's like maybe the sun

[00:23:14] You might not alike the size

[00:23:16] This is the time Balu. I've said no vote no shot no idle

[00:23:21] The time now since we're all over the place and my the only person

[00:23:26] No, it's probably me

[00:23:28] Did you question though

[00:23:30] When Q was like what did a chance is you think Jeff but now I was like are they about to do what I think they're about to do

[00:23:40] And then you get bottom like God dig deeper yes, and so that's what I was like

[00:23:45] Are they about to give him my idol?

[00:23:47] They teased me a couple of times. I had to remind myself

[00:23:50] I'm like Tiffany has that but where had fanatred right like I saw that happen

[00:23:54] I because I

[00:23:56] There was it just was like where is this going if he doesn't find an idol right now

[00:24:01] And

[00:24:03] Why we spend so much time

[00:24:07] The inevitable but it also again, I love Balu but wait he fell down to the floor

[00:24:15] I have a question for you for your players

[00:24:18] I think I'd be like Tiffany. I'd be like stand up. No, I'm not gonna talk to you

[00:24:24] You don't think you could negotiate with someone on their hands at these do you

[00:24:29] Well, well, I mean it depends what the negotiations are

[00:24:37] If that's the game

[00:24:40] Who if that's the case I could not believe that please and you know he didn't even ask Tiffany to

[00:24:48] Someone he just said Tiffany help me please help me

[00:24:53] Was wild now I think

[00:24:58] I think Jeff was ready for Bano to leave

[00:25:01] I am Jeff. I

[00:25:04] Think

[00:25:06] I think if you look at this trial, I was I was talking about this

[00:25:09] I've talked to some other people out this

[00:25:11] I think Jeff was ready for this man to leave this game because when I look at that tribe

[00:25:17] Without knowing who Bano is or anybody. I'm like, this is a super tribe when I look at their starting point

[00:25:23] I'm like this time is not gonna lose

[00:25:25] Then I'm like all right if we sub anyone for Bano this episode they ain't losing yeah like and so

[00:25:33] For such a tribe that

[00:25:36] Optically is like yo, this is the tribe

[00:25:39] I think Bano

[00:25:41] Sweetheart great man great person

[00:25:44] But I think he's had a chokehold on this tribe and

[00:25:52] Like now that he's gone

[00:25:54] I would like to think I mean I'd like to think that they could do some damage now

[00:25:58] But I've been saying it every week and I'm like all right me and he Bano is gonna get on board

[00:26:02] but I think Jeff was really ready like

[00:26:04] For this to not be the Bano

[00:26:07] Spectacle anymore yeah, all right now let's now let's play some survivor. Yeah

[00:26:13] I think that's probably why we got the vote that we did

[00:26:17] If you can call it that what do you guys think about that? I'm

[00:26:21] Yeah

[00:26:24] I have two issues with it as a player

[00:26:26] your vote is like

[00:26:29] Your only provable trust in my opinion at the end of the day. There's a lot of words and this is an action

[00:26:35] but then to

[00:26:37] Like as an audience member, it just feels really anti-climatic

[00:26:40] Yeah, because we could still think that something might someone might pull something yeah, but

[00:26:48] Had we not had the 45 minutes prior to that maybe

[00:26:54] Uh, so good. So I do have a question though right and again, I'm gonna bring this back to Q

[00:26:59] Because when when we talk about keeping the tribe strong and like you know

[00:27:04] Again, I just want to bring up to lensky again because I

[00:27:07] questioned in the beginning like although jolensky might quit

[00:27:12] Although he might have like did a lot of different things like when we say keep the tribe strong

[00:27:17] Like I feel like not just physically but sometimes it's like maybe keeping the tribe strong

[00:27:22] It's just keeping your mouth shut like you don't like so again. I always just

[00:27:26] Which jolensky couldn't do

[00:27:29] I mean he would raise his hand for everything

[00:27:33] Like yeah, all right you might not be sharing certain things but it's like well

[00:27:36] That's when that's as when we as a tribe like no

[00:27:40] But I'm just saying that's that's all I

[00:27:43] I think at two hours, man. We saw him raise his hand and fail four times in a row

[00:27:48] I'm curious so you don't think it was then you you think jolensky was still the correct vote at that time

[00:27:54] Wendell is opposed to Jess and Bano

[00:27:56] Yeah, yeah

[00:27:59] I mean hindsight

[00:28:00] Yeah, no, no, and we try to take hindsight out of it

[00:28:04] We make a decision in the moment and you stick with it hindsight clearly that freaking

[00:28:09] Puzzle where his six foot wingspan would have helped

[00:28:12] But like yeah, and I know that's coming in hindsight. I'd say that jolensky

[00:28:17] Maybe should have been the third boot

[00:28:19] That's kind of where I'm leaning I questioned it when it happened

[00:28:23] There was the whole quit thing so like I understood it

[00:28:27] But in the new era particularly if you lose that first tribal and you don't have your fire for two three days

[00:28:35] It looks hard to come back from at this point

[00:28:38] Yeah, yeah

[00:28:41] Yeah, I thought this I thought then too. I thought that Jess was the right first boot just because

[00:28:46] Jolensky had some more loyalty

[00:28:49] but I saw the logic of like

[00:28:51] Jolensky has sort of

[00:28:53] actively

[00:28:54] Messed her games up by like giving people advantages

[00:28:58] Saying this and that and at that point Jess and Bano had it really done that so not to go back three episodes

[00:29:03] Did you guys think that was that big of like a sin?

[00:29:08] No, I didn't but it was his delivery like I feel like if you are that much of a survivor fan

[00:29:13] You should not be coming back

[00:29:16] I gave him an extra vote

[00:29:19] And that's not in a vacuum. It's not just that was not his only blender that episode

[00:29:24] So when you compound them it really starts to add up

[00:29:28] I do think the delivery because I was like

[00:29:29] I don't think that was that bad of a move but he did deliver it very poorly

[00:29:33] I was the issue is I thought the best move was to just be honest and say hey guys like I have the skull and not gonna lie to you

[00:29:39] Because the other alternative was

[00:29:42] You really try to lie about it

[00:29:44] Well then technically just be like I swear to God

[00:29:46] I swear on my mom and my dad and that uh and then if you're jolinski are you gonna match that like probably not or else you just look like such a

[00:29:54] deceitful person

[00:29:55] But yeah, you can't go to the tribe really

[00:29:57] Yeah, I tried to lie for about 30 seconds gave up. I was like I could help these guys out

[00:30:02] You could easily just say I lost

[00:30:04] Yeah, that would have been the easy thing to say

[00:30:07] but

[00:30:08] bringing it back over to survival 46 and steering away from

[00:30:13] The yawning tribe for a little bit. We also got scenes early on at

[00:30:18] the seagot tribe where gem decides to

[00:30:21] Rehide the deweyred manage

[00:30:24] um and this leads to Maria finds it and this

[00:30:29] causes a

[00:30:30] collective tribe search under this tree

[00:30:34] Where they find nothing but ants and that you know arrive with some suspicion about

[00:30:40] Is this planted

[00:30:42] Something is reported at 10 because he was searching too hard

[00:30:46] What do we think about this from like gem's perspective and then maybe also the perspective of like the players who

[00:30:52] don't know what the situation is with this advantage

[00:30:57] I think Jim played the soft greet uh

[00:31:00] Shout out to Jim okay, you know where in the merch. Uh, I think she played the soft greet

[00:31:07] That's a good hat. I see like that. Oh

[00:31:09] Oh

[00:31:10] Gem's my winner. I need to get one of those that's flying. Oh

[00:31:15] That's real cool team gem uh, so I thought gem was great if they were me I would have been

[00:31:24] Like I like it would have been so hard for me especially when I think it might have been Liz like

[00:31:29] Do you think someone could have put it there and then

[00:31:33] Plant it again and gem's like nah wow I would have been like

[00:31:37] What makes you think that like I would have been cracking up so I loved her plan

[00:31:43] I thought that was a great my only critique of heart is

[00:31:47] We should maybe like find a better spot for it. It literally was like sticking out like dr

[00:31:53] Maria solid also dr. Maria was me she's touched it she said is beware

[00:31:59] What I don't want no beware idols. I'm good really

[00:32:04] But she did

[00:32:06] Open it up right and now she doesn't have a vote. I do think

[00:32:10] Ben opened it. I could be wrong. Yeah one of them opened it

[00:32:13] Well, oh maybe this is a hot take uh jack are you opening up aware of energy if you find it? Of course um

[00:32:20] I think I am but I understand not uh

[00:32:24] My issue here

[00:32:26] What you opening it or not

[00:32:29] well

[00:32:30] It was a replay in it one you still have your vote. That's true

[00:32:33] No, I don't know that you don't know that and your other tribe of six. I think that makes a difference too

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[00:34:13] Okay, wait a minute. All right now. Sorry now I have an even better question right

[00:34:17] So say he does open the reopen they lose next

[00:34:22] I should know it's a replant at that moment whoever opened it

[00:34:26] That's what he knows. Yeah, yeah, he gets his vote

[00:34:29] But would it would they've never played survivor before you wouldn't find out because

[00:34:34] All he knows right now is dig under the tree and he said

[00:34:37] We just ignore the stipulations of like

[00:34:41] And even though he sees it they've never played survivor, but well, I mean, I guess they've seen it

[00:34:46] So I think they were telling to vote

[00:34:48] They would tell him to vote I think you usually says you go up and it's like you have no vote return to the seat

[00:34:54] And he's pretty funny actually

[00:34:56] Well, so I'm do we know for a fact who opened it banner Maria? It was one of those two. I maybe mistaken on Ben

[00:35:02] I thought I saw him open it

[00:35:04] It was one of them that was not gem. I noticed I was like she didn't open and read it either

[00:35:09] I don't know where him okay, then we could go with my hand could be wrong here's my issue is

[00:35:15] Look, I love the move from gem from like a spontane or like a entertainment

[00:35:21] spontaneity standpoint

[00:35:24] But I don't think it's a good move because

[00:35:27] She wants she does it to like take it off herself

[00:35:31] But if nobody else ever finds it

[00:35:34] There's still like there's those three okay someone might have there's no here's weed on gem

[00:35:40] Here's why I like it and it's very situational

[00:35:44] And it's that green tribe is probably not going to go to a tribal before they hit the merge

[00:35:50] This can give gem an interesting insight as to who trust who before the merge that she wouldn't get otherwise because there's no vote

[00:35:58] It's all oh we all vibe with each other if we don't have to vote someone out let's not talk about it

[00:36:02] But now there's an actionable thing where

[00:36:06] Maria can be like I think it's Charlie or you know what I mean like they can point fingers and she can map out the connections on the tribe

[00:36:13] I

[00:36:15] agree with that um

[00:36:17] I don't think that was her motivation by any means

[00:36:20] Why?

[00:36:21] You know my only thing is yes, that is great and now you do have this and you do have this but I just think it's um adding too much

[00:36:32] I think it's fun for to watch on tv and it's a fun idea and I even planted I replanted a fake idol before

[00:36:39] um

[00:36:39] But I just think

[00:36:42] Man now now you really have people

[00:36:46] Like night. I don't know it's scary because like

[00:36:48] So to put it because I had more to my

[00:36:52] So the real one is now

[00:36:56] Say we say that Maria laws the one who opened it and no longer as a vote if they go to tribal

[00:37:03] Maria who is allegedly gems ally and is also in a swing position

[00:37:08] Now thinks that she doesn't have a vote and so

[00:37:11] Gem can either let her think she doesn't have a vote or she's gonna have to be like

[00:37:18] Wink wink like I planted it you have a bow and then Maria might be like

[00:37:24] Yeah, and then Maria will be like why did she do that like that's messed up

[00:37:28] So it just puts her in a position where now her she's kind of hosting over her allies

[00:37:34] They're not going to they're not gonna go even if Maria loses her vote

[00:37:38] Gem can just even stick harder to her and be like what's the plan we're working together like I got you

[00:37:44] Like if I'm gem I'll keep this to the in the chest like I'm not mad at

[00:37:48] Eventually it comes out when you play your idol or something and now what

[00:37:52] And then

[00:37:54] I still agree

[00:37:56] You know, it's I don't think it's a great look and the other issue is I plan to win people are now suspicious of him

[00:38:01] Okay, okay

[00:38:04] If but they're also worried that he might have an idol

[00:38:08] So if I'm Maria and I think I have no vote and I think Tim might have an idol

[00:38:12] I'm actually more likely to side with the guys and vote for a Gemma Mariah

[00:38:16] And so that puts Gem in her team all move because they're not gonna lose

[00:38:21] Here's where I think it'll be an issue is if she at the merge is like I want to stay six green strong

[00:38:27] Then this move only so distrust amongst the six

[00:38:32] But if she gets to the merge and it's like I'm playing an individual game

[00:38:34] I'm not with all of them then I think this was a good move personally

[00:38:39] It's a risk and order to win survivor you gotta play to win

[00:38:42] And so I feel that but I just also want to circle back real quick check. I'm not making no assumptions

[00:38:47] I'm not making nothing crazy however

[00:38:50] I was like

[00:38:54] Tim

[00:38:56] I could what you mean like why Tim why Tim lying about

[00:39:00] He's just been the most

[00:39:02] Like he's probably fit in the least one socially so maybe it's just natural

[00:39:06] We'd be like oh well the person I'm lilies close to

[00:39:09] Yeah, he's doing something shady

[00:39:12] But I

[00:39:14] See a lot of people like he's actually searching really hard

[00:39:17] He's over compensating. I'd be like

[00:39:20] I don't I don't know you can tell someone

[00:39:27] Again, we don't

[00:39:29] Just looking at everybody like

[00:39:31] That I kind of be like

[00:39:35] Yeah, if she felt like she was worried

[00:39:38] I feel like this was a good idea

[00:39:40] But I don't know exactly the dynamic we don't get a ton of green unfortunately

[00:39:44] Right which I love because it kind of keeps us guessing

[00:39:48] And right the murder mystery we don't really know but from my assumption though

[00:39:54] For them to say Tim

[00:39:56] And from what I've seen so far it give it leads me to believe like is Tim on the outs right like so

[00:40:02] That is what we're about to

[00:40:04] That's like

[00:40:06] I think if they want to try to do the first

[00:40:09] Which is weird he I didn't see that when the when it first started

[00:40:13] I thought he was and pretty seasoned

[00:40:15] I thought he was gonna do really well

[00:40:16] And he still got time to turn around

[00:40:18] But it brings up a really good point right because

[00:40:22] They found a beware advantage as a group and then as a group

[00:40:29] To like you know Tim start going in and it's like he's playing the game and going in and now

[00:40:34] Be he becomes a target now let's go over to the yellow tribe because it brings up similar things

[00:40:40] Because I really want to talk about this soda dynamic because

[00:40:46] On paper

[00:40:47] What is soda doing wrong right like I mean she's like

[00:40:51] She's playing classic survivor in the sense of like hey be friendly talk to everybody

[00:40:57] But keep your outliers close but because

[00:41:02] You dig it so deep it like it causes mistrust

[00:41:06] So it's for me. I just always think

[00:41:10] People that love survivor and that are so critical of people on survivor they

[00:41:15] They they keyboard warriors they be the best players ever I would do this I would do that

[00:41:19] I can't believe it, but I just feel like sometimes it really is situational and it's like

[00:41:25] On paper

[00:41:26] Because I'm like in soda mine like

[00:41:29] Girl you kill it like you know yeah talking everybody you got your core three

[00:41:33] Hey Venus hey that hey that hey that and it's like because you're out there and the survivor paranoia

[00:41:40] Is running and you like oh not talk survivor. I gotta lie you know

[00:41:44] It's just that level and I even bring it back to Tim he ain't do nothing wrong

[00:41:48] But again, maybe it's like maybe I

[00:41:52] I don't dig in the dirt. I just

[00:41:56] Slow down. I

[00:41:58] I think in the new era survivors specifically with three tribes

[00:42:02] I'm starting to believe it is a detriment not to go to tribal early on these people don't know where these people

[00:42:10] Heads if tevin and soda had actually voted together

[00:42:13] Maybe tevin wouldn't be like I can't so does playing too hard or if tim had been like oh you know what he was that clutch fourth vote

[00:42:20] We needed Tim's good. They have no it's all paranoia like you said

[00:42:24] It's all theories ideas nonstop for 10 plus days for these two tribes and where purple knows

[00:42:31] Plus three are sticking together we've been through it

[00:42:34] I still much rather

[00:42:37] I was close to the merge same

[00:42:39] So yeah, it's better shot of making it to the end if you don't go to tribal

[00:42:43] Say statistically it makes sense

[00:42:45] But it's just interesting the trend we've been seeing specifically in the new era. Yeah, it's like all right

[00:42:49] We have nothing to base our trust on other than people's words so now we're

[00:42:57] And I feel like that's maybe what sparked this in tevin because obviously I think they're getting a little bit stir crazy and you start at the

[00:43:02] I plant but I think once the farther is

[00:43:05] Tevin's like okay, I haven't been able to prove trust by

[00:43:09] Knowing to tribal, but maybe if I spring this blindside in action

[00:43:12] I could see who's really about it who's gonna ride me

[00:43:16] And so for him to go to like a hunter and hunter's like

[00:43:20] I'm super down like you that's exactly what I was thinking Tim can be like oh that's actually my guy

[00:43:24] Like he's gonna rock on me even if the move isn't really the right move

[00:43:28] But so Bryce's point I mixed on soda because

[00:43:31] It's there's such a balance lately in like especially in the new era of like you want to have a really good social

[00:43:37] But how do you have that social game where it's not like super visible for everybody else to be like

[00:43:41] He's really social or she's really social and I think soda's social game right now. Maybe it's just kind of like a little bit too visible

[00:43:48] and

[00:43:49] For tevin look tevin situation with fienist is not ideal

[00:43:54] It's not obviously not great bond, but there is something to be said in survivor and real life

[00:44:01] for

[00:44:02] Like one of your friends or your allies to for you to know that they just really do not rock with somebody

[00:44:07] You're like okay if I know and you show them that you do not like them

[00:44:12] Then that means that you when you show me love like it's probably pretty genuine

[00:44:16] And I think I have this thing in real life where

[00:44:19] If I see someone who just gets along with everybody and it never has a bad thing to say about anybody

[00:44:25] I'm like well

[00:44:26] How do I know that you actually like really

[00:44:29] Like that. I'm really your number one in real life

[00:44:31] And I think that would translate to survivor where you like to hear your friend talk a little bit of shit about somebody because you're like okay

[00:44:38] I know that trust me like someone they're not gonna pull it back

[00:44:41] So the fact that they're with me shows like an actual trust

[00:44:44] Like I said in real life or in the game

[00:44:45] I feel like that's kind of what tevin is utilizing that's really got him in the driver's seat

[00:44:52] I love it also really like

[00:44:54] The many fights that we have had Jack. I'm glad that you get the point. It's like

[00:44:59] I don't fight with everybody you know

[00:45:01] I

[00:45:02] If I'm gonna call you up it argue with you that's how you know is real

[00:45:07] I think also on the flip side and this might be what's hurting soda

[00:45:10] It hurts when like you and say you and I Jack were talking crap about other people on the circle

[00:45:15] But then when we're out, I'm like buddy buddy with them the whole time talking there here

[00:45:20] So soda while she's placating the bottom

[00:45:24] Tevin's like is she actually working with them? It only takes one vote

[00:45:28] It's just that and we applaud players who minds think in that way

[00:45:32] But when you don't go to tribal for 12 days, your mind runs too much almost

[00:45:39] And I said one step ahead here because I'd rather be the one to pull in with the list

[00:45:44] I would have knocked me to pull in there

[00:45:45] Exactly

[00:45:46] And it just has spirals

[00:45:47] It's weird almost because it's like

[00:45:50] Uh

[00:45:50] And again, I'm not mad at how soda is playing but I almost feel like I almost wish soda with the energy that she has

[00:45:57] Uh is in the Venus position right because it would

[00:46:02] It would hit different uh then her kind of sort of being in the power position and scrambling around and working with people

[00:46:10] Like I think it's like just so weird, but yeah again. I'm not mad at soda. I feel like on paper. I understand it

[00:46:16] Uh, I can see soda winning

[00:46:19] I really could I think soda

[00:46:21] Especially you get to emerge and you apply those social skills if there's majority of the people who just like her

[00:46:27] It's gonna get her far

[00:46:29] I think that's all good nervous about her at this point now that they're close to the origin

[00:46:33] I think that's actually semi-reasonable because she's just a butterfly

[00:46:38] Well, we just saw somebody last season. That was a butterfly and they snipe them quick by the name of Caleb

[00:46:43] Yeah, they did they snipe it twice right away

[00:46:47] Thanks tried once they said no, no, no, let me try again. Let me try again. We go do this again

[00:46:51] That's why I didn't think Caleb was gonna win too. I was very much like this guy's winning

[00:46:56] Well, that's why I think soda doesn't actually have a lot of like winter equity

[00:47:00] It's so up and down the things that help you the most if you're too good at them

[00:47:04] He back in the day it used to be like if you were too good at challenges

[00:47:08] They took you out now. It's like oh you're you're good with everyone in the tribe

[00:47:12] Made future players go out there start a fake beef day one be like you and I we're gonna fight

[00:47:17] But we're gonna look out for each other

[00:47:20] Change the game. I also feel like soda is learning a little bit because at the reward challenge when

[00:47:27] The purple tribe won she was very much like

[00:47:32] I see y'all I see y'all let's go

[00:47:35] Yes

[00:47:37] Did you totally I can't really challenge though her snatch the idle again

[00:47:42] I think Venus gave it to her finally. I think they're recovering friends

[00:47:45] It looked much more. I cannot believe this happens almost every episode though. It's wild

[00:47:50] Yeah, yeah speaking of the so y'all need to get some much need when at the reward challenge

[00:47:56] Okay, I'm actually gonna in hindsight's 2020

[00:48:00] This actually makes me more annoyed that they won because they can win

[00:48:05] We know they can but they just can't win the immunity challenges like what do you mean?

[00:48:10] Yeah, I kind of knew that was what I felt that was I was like that

[00:48:14] I felt like their celebration back at camp. I was like don't

[00:48:21] Don't

[00:48:23] Well also can we give a shout out to Tim

[00:48:26] I

[00:48:30] Know what Tim thought that challenge was but it was like bruh while you're down in the water

[00:48:36] You could just clip to know

[00:48:38] I know maybe that's all they thought he had

[00:48:41] Maybe the body found a good way and then he's underneath the water

[00:48:44] He says you gotta go under the boat

[00:48:46] I gotta stay under the water for a second

[00:48:49] And then you know it'll be on the bottom of the platform

[00:48:53] Yeah

[00:48:55] I'm gonna jump out of the boat onto the platform

[00:48:58] That was so fun

[00:49:00] I almost was like oh he's got it and then he did

[00:49:03] You did the same thing in the immunity challenge

[00:49:12] He's legs

[00:49:14] His whole tribe's like it's definitely under one of those platforms

[00:49:17] That is what he did

[00:49:20] And air

[00:49:21] His face was preparing for a fall he was like I'ma look crazy

[00:49:27] Yeah

[00:49:29] That was so funny

[00:49:31] I just want to say those there's people that are like oh season so bad and boring

[00:49:35] It's not

[00:49:36] There's a lot of things that are happening you're just not watching you're on your phone

[00:49:39] It's all physical comedy

[00:49:41] Just yeah, it's full moments but like you said there hasn't been a lot of

[00:49:44] I understand

[00:49:45] It's you're progression

[00:49:46] But then just I just love yelling at

[00:49:49] Angry Twitter people

[00:49:51] on moments

[00:49:53] After this reward challenge the yadun's morale is up a little bit

[00:49:57] I know we're bouncing around

[00:49:58] But we do get that wonderful moment of bono getting some coaching from Q

[00:50:03] Uh, and I thought maybe it would be a fun exercise

[00:50:05] If I could be Jeff Probe for a second

[00:50:07] And you guys could all be

[00:50:09] The new and improved bono at tribal council

[00:50:12] And I want to hit you guys each with a with a question

[00:50:14] For you to answer as the new and improved bono

[00:50:17] Okay, let's do it

[00:50:20] So Bryce

[00:50:23] Or so Bob

[00:50:24] So Bryce knew

[00:50:27] You know after Randy got medically evacuated last episode

[00:50:31] You guys seem really upbeat

[00:50:33] How are you and your tribe feeling

[00:50:36] Now that you've somehow managed to lose a fourth consecutive challenge

[00:50:40] What are the what's the energy like?

[00:50:43] Are you asking as

[00:50:45] Jack or Jack

[00:50:52] Yo yo yo

[00:50:55] Word on the block

[00:50:59] We chilling

[00:51:01] Did I do okay went well you did well

[00:51:05] Okay, you're not

[00:51:07] Bongo

[00:51:10] Yes, you know your tribe is only down to four members now

[00:51:15] And you're at tribal council again

[00:51:17] Has there been any discussion of who's on the block

[00:51:21] Who would you who do you think you might want to vote out?

[00:51:26] Jeff I'm gonna look at my truck

[00:51:30] You're making the block hot

[00:51:34] Would you wear that turn from fondle

[00:51:38] I'ma just wing it Tiffany

[00:51:44] Don't be fooled by the rocks that I got

[00:51:50] To have a little now. I have a lot

[00:51:53] Everywhere

[00:51:59] Where's you from

[00:52:02] From the block

[00:52:04] I knew from the block

[00:52:06] One more like that task so so Alex Bonsard

[00:52:10] Um

[00:52:12] You know aside from all the strategizing you've done with God who on your tribe do you like to strategize with the most?

[00:52:21] Jeff it's time to vote

[00:52:30] Oh that killed me when he did episode one when he said that I was like oh, I'm a love bono

[00:52:35] He fooled me in the first half

[00:52:37] Can I still love him can we give him some credit though, right

[00:52:41] And this is where I feel like the edit because when he came back with Kinsey

[00:52:48] Right like I am so sure when Q and Kinsey were laying down

[00:52:53] I am so sure Q did not want when Bonnie was like Kinsey can you teach me and

[00:53:00] For me, I didn't take it as him really being like literal like I

[00:53:04] When I got from him was like okay Q has taught me some things Kinsey

[00:53:09] Can we like I thought he was right like no

[00:53:13] I thought he was essentially saying like sis come take a walk with me because

[00:53:18] How be fit like he could have really in that moment been like you know Q want to get you out like

[00:53:23] I felt like and Q set up a little bit and so I feel like the edit is a little deceptive because there's a world where I could see that Q

[00:53:30] Kind of was why feeding Kinsey a little bit that we like

[00:53:34] Yeah, like because you know I wrote to him right cuz I really got like Bonnie saying like I'd like to learn from you too

[00:53:41] Like he was saying like come take me go talk on the beach you and I yeah

[00:53:46] I did think this was really funny because he goes off in his like Kenzie just snapped at me

[00:53:51] And I was like I don't really think she snapped at him

[00:53:53] But then later in the episode she's like I snapped at Bono. I need to go up. I was like oh okay

[00:53:58] They all think he stepped at him. I mean my my vantage point was it looked like she was a little a little tough on my man

[00:54:05] Yeah, just a little like I'm not yo leave right now

[00:54:10] Not even like but like not right now, bro like let me right like you're out of here

[00:54:18] And brice I think that's a good point. I can kind of sense Q was like I don't want to lose my foot

[00:54:23] Like I don't want to go anywhere

[00:54:25] Okay, I think he was very very interested in keeping Bono if he could but I get Kenzie's frustration because it's like

[00:54:32] We're all playing for a million bucks. Why is it my job to get to help?

[00:54:36] It's not like I and you have to like you know

[00:54:40] If you're making to the merge you want to be in a good spot with Bono or whatever, but I'm I would have been

[00:54:45] I love Bono as a character. I feel like you know as soon as he told he told us that you told yawning that he told everybody else about the dynamics

[00:54:53] I'd be like you're just

[00:54:56] sabotaging my game right now like what and now you said it's like help you

[00:55:00] That was so rough because he just got the random news

[00:55:03] He just got the random news second life in the game and the first thing we see him do is he's like

[00:55:09] I told them everything and I want to take stock in this bono city's not a liar and he's not good at lying

[00:55:15] He's told Q and Tiffany. He said they asked me are they close and I said yes, they're close

[00:55:22] I went back and watched it. He offered it up to them. Yeah, well first of all like

[00:55:28] First of all

[00:55:30] But like Bano

[00:55:32] He knew giving them that information what he was doing like that like let like you knew the tone and even when Tiffany acts you

[00:55:39] Right

[00:55:41] Was that bad? Like it's like you can't like that's the thing that I think that frustrates

[00:55:47] You can be deceptive

[00:55:49] Like you are showing it

[00:55:52] It's like one foot out

[00:55:54] I won't put the truth but then I want to be really honest, but then I want to twist it so it's all kind of works for me

[00:56:00] But it's like dude just don't say anything

[00:56:02] And that's how you want to be more honest by not saying any

[00:56:06] Second chance and he was like I need to be honest with them in this moment

[00:56:10] Yeah, it was such a fun ball

[00:56:12] I love how 50 was like he probably over there telling him this and that but actually it was worse than that

[00:56:17] Tiffany like it was

[00:56:20] Bano was

[00:56:22] Said I'm going home tonight. Kenzie's the mastermind

[00:56:25] Q and Tiffany they're just so close

[00:56:27] I was like wow

[00:56:30] It's fine. Was there anything more that you can even care about the trial?

[00:56:35] I think Tiffany has the beware advantage. Yeah

[00:56:38] Delinsey was pretty tall

[00:56:43] Oh god

[00:56:44] We give other fun moments we're back over on the seagull tribe and they get the the Tremel for the emini challenge

[00:56:50] And Mariah has to disclose that she cannot jump

[00:56:57] Is this the first

[00:56:59] Point towards going back to 60 minutes? No, I'm just kidding

[00:57:03] I was watching this like

[00:57:06] It was a very fun

[00:57:10] Yeah, but I actually you know you kind of expected the challenge to be you have to go jump and grab

[00:57:14] a key and I was thinking if Mariah can't jump you know they could lose just because of that

[00:57:19] In reality, you just have to jump off a platform. You could you could just

[00:57:23] Valley flat off all off the block off

[00:57:27] So you could be hunter and say I'm gonna jump to the other platform

[00:57:31] I actually wonder how really like if there would ever be someone athletic enough

[00:57:35] That could just would jump so far that they actually hit the other platform

[00:57:40] I thought it would be about to see it

[00:57:42] The landing would be a little outlier

[00:57:45] You look like ten on that platform yeah, you probably the momentum will probably just stumble you right into the water at the front of that

[00:57:53] You slipping. Yeah, you just keep going

[00:57:55] Oh, no, but oh yeah, if you're wet

[00:57:58] Yeah, if your feet are wet your flip it's gonna look like a cartoon

[00:58:01] Like I think you're like breaking a leg or worse

[00:58:05] You might be diving and you dive too far and you

[00:58:09] I don't know I'm sure that survivor thinks about this but speaking of diving

[00:58:15] I thought Tim

[00:58:17] Tim's dive was I was like okay Tim we see you dive in. I thought hunter was diving right into the

[00:58:26] But I do need to

[00:58:29] Got you question

[00:58:30] Q's time

[00:58:33] It's like it is it was so

[00:58:36] Falling right like it was the form of a dive

[00:58:40] But he just not

[00:58:43] Yeah, it definitely was

[00:58:51] It's a it's a cute pillow. It is cute. I was like that's cute

[00:58:56] Bryce had a cute pillow made

[00:58:59] I really like you. I think you is one of the more interesting athletes we've seen on the show

[00:59:04] But here's the thing all right because I'm gonna be a little hard on cue because

[00:59:10] I mean

[00:59:11] Listen we listen we love cute right but I'm just saying

[00:59:17] Because you know every episode I'm always going to ask the question sorry

[00:59:22] I'm always going to ask the question

[00:59:26] What do you do

[00:59:28] Because I just want to make sure we give our man some credit and some love because I'm just saying

[00:59:37] For cute be the pro athlete

[00:59:39] Okay

[00:59:42] He was the last person on and when he got in there he was drained

[00:59:47] Hmm

[00:59:49] Yes, yeah, I mean we all know Jolenskis are hoover too

[00:59:53] Yeah

[00:59:55] Yeah and with his eight-foot reach he doesn't have to shoot you can just lean over and drop it in

[01:00:01] Yeah

[01:00:03] I

[01:00:05] Hourglass he has an arm

[01:00:08] I swear Jolensky would have frontflip instead of that

[01:00:13] He would have frontflip and landed behind himself

[01:00:17] Yeah, I know that would happen

[01:00:20] But

[01:00:21] So yeah, I just

[01:00:23] Yeah, I just thought cues dive was a little interesting because it's like you

[01:00:28] Cuz diving is a little hard. I feel like sometimes it's like in my

[01:00:31] But he had the form right he just landed it

[01:00:34] Uh a little hard

[01:00:35] Lending Bryce are you good at diving?

[01:00:37] I can't dive oh

[01:00:39] I can dive

[01:00:40] I did practice

[01:00:42] Say that again would you look like you

[01:00:45] Um, I would probably look like Tim

[01:00:50] Good

[01:00:52] I'm okay

[01:00:54] Uh

[01:00:56] Freakin on ghost island. I believe your girl

[01:00:59] Dove from that top high platform

[01:01:01] He did yeah good

[01:01:03] Well you were there but I was gonna say good memory

[01:01:05] I'm worried of you if you actually remember that and you

[01:01:09] I don't know if I told you this the last time

[01:01:11] But I actually think when do you had the most like while it was cool sentimental

[01:01:16] You had the most bum hidden immunity idol of all time

[01:01:19] How you supposed to hide that big ass thing

[01:01:21] It's a whoo

[01:01:23] I couldn't believe I was like this is so unfair this barely fits in his bag

[01:01:27] No, yeah, I had yeah it was like a belt

[01:01:31] The championship wrestling belt

[01:01:33] Yeah, it was huge. I couldn't believe it. I was like this is not fair

[01:01:37] I just left outside at all times

[01:01:39] Was the platform your girl dove off was not the same height as like these ones or was it

[01:01:44] I'm going to bet it was the same height this this challenge looks very familiar to ghost some ghost island challenge

[01:01:51] Do you think diving is the wrong move or use think it takes a little more audacity?

[01:01:55] Well, I think it takes a lot more audacity and in your girl's case

[01:02:00] I think he had a further distance to go so that dive helps him

[01:02:05] Whereas in hunter cases like you jump in and you got to get right out

[01:02:09] So you're not

[01:02:13] Trying to dive but maybe I don't have maybe I'm not

[01:02:15] I think the first the first hurdle. I think you definitely dive because it is a lot further

[01:02:21] But I think the second hurdle it's like this one

[01:02:25] I don't think you dive I think you just try to jump as far as you can because it didn't look the angles for me weren't the best

[01:02:33] Do we worry about

[01:02:35] Do we worry on this platform about

[01:02:38] Getting a running start and slipping when you try to jump or is is it do you think it's pretty dry up there

[01:02:43] I think it's probably dry and so you get up there

[01:02:46] And your drenched of water and you've had like three people go before you

[01:02:50] That's what I would be nervous about that thinking like I'm gonna try to jump as far as I can

[01:02:54] And you slip and you like generally speaking

[01:02:58] They they try to work around all the hazards that are possible

[01:03:02] It's not like they'll put grippies up there anything

[01:03:04] But I don't think they put whatever the slippery is wood and paint is a pretty

[01:03:12] That's good um I do prefer a slip your a slip your wood though, but

[01:03:18] Hunter definitely

[01:03:21] Bryce I already knew I was gonna bring up this quote when see you could get there first

[01:03:26] And tevd was like

[01:03:28] But once hunter gets those balls in his hand

[01:03:31] Oh

[01:03:34] I think it was a funny quote but it was even more funny that it ended up being true

[01:03:40] Right

[01:03:43] It was the shape of the balls like no, but I'm not trying to be funny

[01:03:47] Like look at the balls that hunter has like

[01:03:51] I didn't even notice

[01:03:53] Those that are listening in Bryce has

[01:03:57] photoshopped

[01:03:59] himself on the ball between

[01:04:03] Okay, I

[01:04:06] I've been looking at this photo since you brought it up and I took off your face

[01:04:11] I saw immediately because I knew

[01:04:15] But I also want to give tevd some love because in my rewatch of tevd for 3.2 seconds

[01:04:22] During the challenge you can see tevd

[01:04:25] Straddling the bench and checking under it like he moved over and kind of looked like he was like

[01:04:31] Straddling it and he was checking under so again

[01:04:34] Shout out to my twin tevd who is in a really good position in his tribe and is clearly out there

[01:04:41] Playing the games. Oh

[01:04:45] I love tevd

[01:04:46] Him and Hunter great duo. I was I was really thinking him soda and hunter we're gonna

[01:04:52] Gonna keep that momentum going but now I'm worried about their relationship moving forward

[01:04:57] Yeah, it could be a bluff could be at an editing bluff

[01:05:00] But I'm like you I think they're leaving bread crumbs for us

[01:05:05] I definitely believe so

[01:05:08] I also feel like Tiffany was the MVP in this challenge. I feel like

[01:05:13] She definitely we didn't get to see a lot of it

[01:05:16] But we saw how everyone else was doing pace wise or how long it took them to do it

[01:05:22] And then all of a sudden Tiffany was in the water. There she was just pulling herself up

[01:05:25] I'm like okay Tiffany also classic

[01:05:28] Ba new he was so into it. He was like I'm just my past

[01:05:35] And get and go get the ball and mind it's like the worst part is from the edit

[01:05:40] They were very close in that challenge

[01:05:42] Who knows a minute that he needed to go back could have made all the difference is the worst part about it is from what it looked like

[01:05:49] Believe it great. Yeah, so over one ball short

[01:05:52] Seagull gets there first but 10

[01:05:54] Has ups and downs with the shooting

[01:05:56] Hunter pulls up like Kevin said put a ball on this band's hand

[01:06:03] And we're all expected him to go like 2k

[01:06:06] Says the granny shot

[01:06:09] You did and then you could be able to pull it out on take take the moment second for Seagull

[01:06:15] Once again Yanu

[01:06:17] Faded for another travel council

[01:06:20] And this was a bummer even though I just was bummed I was like not again

[01:06:24] Not again and I got a question though and usually we don't really

[01:06:31] Usually we don't factor into people social media's and like look at that and try to try to

[01:06:37] Apply that to what's going on in the game. I did see a post from Q that said best miss shot

[01:06:45] Of my life

[01:06:48] Miss wanted to lose that so I'm like all right did they throw are they throw did they throw this challenge

[01:06:55] um be honest and all of it

[01:06:58] It was like yo bano you're out of here like I'm gonna come in and start rebounding

[01:07:03] So like I'm trying

[01:07:05] And

[01:07:07] I think obviously they were happy to get rid of bano

[01:07:11] Yeah

[01:07:14] They got robbed of getting rid of bano when rand in left so maybe they just didn't try their little artist

[01:07:23] And and again like

[01:07:25] You don't know what's to come next you don't know if we're gonna do a swap or emerge or anything

[01:07:30] So like all right, we might not have a shot at this guy who is leaking all our information all over the place

[01:07:36] So you know what

[01:07:39] Maybe it might not be so bad if we lose

[01:07:42] Yeah, I can see that another trouble

[01:07:46] It's risky now

[01:07:50] I mean it is it's it's a real question of like

[01:07:54] Because when Q was thinking about getting rid of Kenzie. I was like man take out a threat or like how big of a liability is bano

[01:08:02] And if they really thought he was like detrimental to their games

[01:08:05] I definitely see a world where they didn't try their harness

[01:08:08] I never want to like cast that upon someone if they don't verbalize it

[01:08:12] But I definitely see what you're your hint in that for sure

[01:08:17] Yeah, I mean

[01:08:19] We already spoke about some of the post challenge pre-tribal

[01:08:24] antics by bano including gagging tiffini questioning god

[01:08:30] um

[01:08:32] It's how to be caught and dry it was sort of he still asking to learn at that point. He's like can you teach me any?

[01:08:38] And it kind of reminded me of um

[01:08:40] I was watching with some friends

[01:08:43] Including the great sack we're in burger and it kind of reminded me of the Alicia boo in to wrong

[01:08:48] Where they finished the challenge and there were everyone else. I think it was

[01:08:53] Uh Scott

[01:08:54] Jason and Sydney

[01:08:56] We're all like we're

[01:08:58] Or Kyle Jason or whatever his name was

[01:09:00] We're all like we're ready to vote you right now

[01:09:03] And Jeva's like we could just do it here if you want

[01:09:05] And they were like she was like I want to eat some tribal

[01:09:08] I'm always glad they didn't try to sew any

[01:09:14] Viewer mistrust here because it was clearly blatant

[01:09:17] We've been lied to so many times though. We all found it was coming

[01:09:20] Yeah, and you know, I've tribal bano has a chance to share his story

[01:09:26] And ultimately they don't even vote

[01:09:29] Um, so I guess I want to get into this topic of the not voting

[01:09:34] But before we do was there anything after the challenge before tribal that we haven't touched on that anyone really that's about to anyone

[01:09:43] I really like the purple three but not as much as the t-cate three

[01:09:48] But for like different reasons. I really like this three but I don't know there's a world where like

[01:09:54] They're

[01:09:55] Yannu strong

[01:09:56] I feel like they're all individual players that are going to try to do their own thing come merge

[01:10:01] Maybe I have the wrong read on it

[01:10:02] but um

[01:10:04] They just like keep talking like there are three

[01:10:06] But it really looks like Tiffany's in the middle of those two

[01:10:11] right

[01:10:12] And again

[01:10:14] It is 90 times. I really like Tiffany too

[01:10:18] I

[01:10:18] I think it's great for her, but again

[01:10:20] I just worry about being in the middle because again like Jack said earlier

[01:10:25] I rather know where you stand right and I feel like we get this dialogue from Tiffany where she kind of is like

[01:10:31] You know, I know Kenzie you know likes me, but it like I don't know. I could just see a world where

[01:10:39] Say they merge right and

[01:10:42] Tiffany does what q wants and then now

[01:10:45] Kenzie's coming after or Tiffany says sides with Kenzie now q's coming after her so I don't know

[01:10:51] I think if they go to another tribal who do we think goes home? Oh, I don't even actually want to imagine that if I'm being honest um

[01:10:59] I have an answer, but I know I will let you guys I think it's

[01:11:04] Kenzie, but I feel like Kenzie's really slick and could get out of it is the only thing yeah

[01:11:10] Yeah, I don't know I

[01:11:13] That's tough

[01:11:16] I don't think kinsie though because if they were going to any tribes right if kinsie were to link up like the Charlie's Angels

[01:11:22] Like I feel like you know kiffy Tiffany or kinsie will be good with Charlie's Angels

[01:11:26] I feel like on the other tribe. I feel like kinsie. I could see a world where kinsie Venus

[01:11:33] So

[01:11:35] They go to another one right yeah, just the three. Yeah, I'd rise. I agree with you where I think kinsie can do very well

[01:11:41] But I'm saying just

[01:11:43] I think he's saying Tiffany's gonna weigh her options and say I need kinsie at merge with me

[01:11:49] Yeah, I don't know that that's hard again

[01:11:53] This is what I'm talking about all you all people saying you do first four episodes

[01:11:57] Sok right they have given us enough but not enough for us to really be like

[01:12:03] Who's not for more? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

[01:12:06] And again now that bond was out now we have the common denominator is out now

[01:12:10] It's like where the chips really going to crumble

[01:12:14] For sure

[01:12:15] Jack has to go get a snack. Oh, I thought this was the bad

[01:12:18] Go to the bathroom real fast

[01:12:21] Um, I do I want to before we wrap up get to the thing. I want to pose something

[01:12:27] Probably more a statement, but I thought it was a question

[01:12:29] I feel the new era. I was able to come to this last night

[01:12:33] I feel like everyone in the first third of the new era is just playing the outlast part

[01:12:42] There no one wants to really stick their head too high. They don't want to outwit

[01:12:46] They don't want to outplay. I just need to outlast to the swap to the merge what have you and

[01:12:51] I just I need some people that are trying to outwit people and I really think what hurts it is the one tribe going constantly and

[01:13:00] I just think that if you're a future survivor player and you go out there you yes

[01:13:05] You need to outlast the rest of them, but don't don't forget to outplay and outwit also

[01:13:10] Yeah, do we think that's a change in the

[01:13:14] Metador or do we think that is just a

[01:13:18] Strategy that's been adopted

[01:13:22] I think it's a lot of different things right. I think that post the new era

[01:13:26] We used to have recruits. We used to have a mix of a lot of different people then when we get the new era

[01:13:32] Right, we got all of these gamers and they are sniping

[01:13:38] The big players before they even have a chance to

[01:13:41] And now that box their head up right and so now we kind of have like this mix

[01:13:47] wrong people I can't stand you

[01:13:52] They're literally taking my argument that I had with you on the phone

[01:13:56] Right is like

[01:13:58] I'm gonna take it back

[01:14:00] Yes

[01:14:03] No

[01:14:05] I do my take

[01:14:10] I do

[01:14:13] What's the argument

[01:14:16] My take is first of all wait a minute time out Jack. I just gave you have to argue me

[01:14:19] What you not about to do is think ex

[01:14:22] Wiggle what was it?

[01:14:24] I said what was the what was the take what do I missed it yeah, I was asking in general right

[01:14:29] What's your what's the tape that's yours

[01:14:32] I'm glad

[01:14:35] He's doing um

[01:14:37] You're doing better than by new rice actually

[01:14:41] Um yeah, my take is you had

[01:14:43] Our take pre new air my take was pre new era you have I had to argue you to get some gamers and

[01:14:50] recruits to where it's like all right some recruits are like just streetsavier they're just they're just

[01:14:56] Chris noble

[01:14:59] Some some recruits are good enough to do some things right and some are not

[01:15:04] And then you got all these game bots early in the new era to where they're sniping anybody that they see if I'm doing anything

[01:15:11] And we're at a point now where it's like you have some bannus and some strange folks

[01:15:16] That aren't necessary they might watch the game and whatnot, but they're giving us

[01:15:21] What the recruits gave us in that like these are people that are almost disposable or snipable or whatever

[01:15:26] That aren't playing this high level game

[01:15:28] So now we now we have

[01:15:30] It's not all early new era where it's all people that know and are gonna snipe those threats. It's a

[01:15:39] I think we now have a better mix of people that are in a similar position to those recruits that are just like

[01:15:45] Are y'all are y'all here playing something? Yeah, but these survivor players are gonna show you what survivor looks like

[01:15:52] Yeah

[01:15:53] I like those players though because to me like the really good players know how to operate around them

[01:15:59] Oh, even though this person's not like a big strategist. I know they value

[01:16:04] X Y and Z

[01:16:05] I'm gonna appeal to that or I know this

[01:16:08] Philip has beef with

[01:16:10] Francesca so I'm gonna exploit that like you that's where the good players in my mind because if everyone's playing optimally

[01:16:17] It becomes a totally different game as weird as that sounds yeah

[01:16:21] For for me right and I'm not being biased like a player that I like that's playing right now is a hunter

[01:16:28] Right because I feel like he is

[01:16:31] Keeping his ear to the streets

[01:16:33] He is laying low, but he's also planting seeds and I feel like and as they are coming

[01:16:40] He is taking them and rolling with them, but like I just love how savvy

[01:16:45] Hunter is and even when we're thinking about the challenge with when dr. Maria

[01:16:50] Kind of was like struggling a little bit, but she kept on going the only thing that I kept thinking about though was like

[01:16:57] Because you know hunter got all of these stuff for his basement

[01:16:59] I just wonder with the pole and hunter basement look

[01:17:05] You go. Yeah, so ready. I was like oh, okay

[01:17:09] No, I think hugged you in a good spot

[01:17:10] I also think to my general two cents on this point of like the thing is Alex

[01:17:15] I think

[01:17:16] Optimal gameplay now is to just stick tight and not rock the lower early on a lot of I think it's Sandra expired

[01:17:21] Inspired these new players are like hey the first eight seven nine votes. So it would have you

[01:17:27] I'm gonna lay low as long as it's not me and it's you know people I like we can we can work with that

[01:17:32] But can y'all keep it uh a buck and be honest that like yeah, it's smart and it's great

[01:17:38] But it makes for not great survivor early in the beginning

[01:17:42] So I brought it up. Yeah, that's what I brought it up

[01:17:45] Yeah, because it is it is a balance of we want to see people play really well

[01:17:50] We want to see strategist super fans living out their dreams

[01:17:53] But I do think this is why I started off saying I want more bonoos

[01:17:57] I want people out there that these players need to play around factor into their games and decide if it's a liability enough

[01:18:05] To take Philip to the end or if you cut bono early on

[01:18:09] I think these are interesting decisions. I think it becomes a little weird not weird

[01:18:13] But like it's just almost like shoe horned when there's just one player like that though

[01:18:19] I want a couple. I need I need some

[01:18:22] Shoot I need some recruits I think

[01:18:25] Let's even be more specific

[01:18:26] I really feel like this style kind of started on season 43

[01:18:30] Like James Jones is season because we saw a lot of it where it was like people were not making big moves

[01:18:37] Yeah, and that was frustrating here's another hot take right um

[01:18:42] Can we get two tribes like I would love to see a new era of two tribes

[01:18:46] And how that works out because I like I would love to just kind of see that

[01:18:52] I've been a defender, but this is the first cycle that I'm saying this is and it's it's specifically

[01:18:58] 42 is the only season in the new era that one tribe has not been almost decimated

[01:19:04] I just it is such a weird dynamic of the two tribes get their fire water shelter all that early on and the one tribe

[01:19:12] Just keeps losing and does whatever they can to hang on by the skin of their you know Lulu

[01:19:17] Tribe buffs like it's

[01:19:19] I want to see two tribes. I want to see a back-and-forth

[01:19:22] I want to see like it is more interesting when it is a tribe of 10 or a tribe of five then we're getting different dynamics

[01:19:29] Right now we just have three kind of tiny tribes

[01:19:32] Yeah, I also you know more people gives you more options options

[01:19:37] With six there's only three votes. There can be five one four two

[01:19:42] Three zero or three three excuse me

[01:19:45] It's tough and I actually generally love a three-trop season but it's getting stale for sure

[01:19:50] Uh, I don't know the players are too good

[01:19:52] They know how to play in a three tribe format now they've seen it five six seasons in a row

[01:19:57] They're all watching and I think that I think the loss of rice in a flint is also cute where once your tribe loses one

[01:20:05] You're just gonna you're gonna be hungry. You're gonna detire

[01:20:08] You're gonna it's gonna escalate the issue you're already having

[01:20:13] I also recently saw some some post about you know, which tribes have been on which beaches in the new era

[01:20:19] And I think I about have six winners have come from the same beach they were also on tribes that

[01:20:24] Dominated the pre-merge

[01:20:26] And from what I know like that's a beach that might have a little bit more food a little bit more resources

[01:20:32] And so of course

[01:20:35] Yeah, what do you really do in terms of you know the beaches are at the beaches

[01:20:39] But the way you balance that is like make sure every tribe has food

[01:20:43] Like has rice for me. I don't care about them not having rice like it's what's the it's just I don't want to watch people

[01:20:49] Just absolutely wrecked out there

[01:20:51] It's their answer to the 26 days, but I just don't know it's like the correct answer

[01:20:55] Yeah, I don't think so and I guess the last that I definitely think there's room to improve here

[01:21:01] And I completely agree with the sentiment you guys said

[01:21:04] But my other question I wanted to put a to put a wrap up on this specific episode of Survivor is

[01:21:10] They don't go api and I think we kind of all agreed

[01:21:14] I personally wasn't a fan because it takes away any suspense. It also takes away any options

[01:21:20] Uh, it takes away a world maybe Tiffany's a little paranoid and she plays her idol or something

[01:21:26] It takes away one person does decide to deflect it would create so much drama like oh my god

[01:21:31] I thought we were actually voting out Kenzie. I was I was misled or what I like

[01:21:36] It just takes all agency out of the players hands

[01:21:39] And it's important that wasn't the it was didn't seem like it was gonna occur this episode

[01:21:44] But I also think in the future where say you're in a similar situation and maybe I'm 10

[01:21:50] I think bottom's going home, but now we need to vote and I'm like

[01:21:54] Is could that tip me off to the fact that you know something is going oh?

[01:21:59] We need to vote if he doesn't have a vote or a title

[01:22:02] Why do we need to vote people will be like oh my god?

[01:22:05] Maybe he does have an idol you're right jack people these players are smart

[01:22:09] If if someone's like this is a slam dunk five o they lost their vote

[01:22:13] Jeff should probably be like let's wrap this up. Let's go home

[01:22:16] But if he doesn't

[01:22:18] They're gonna be like what's going that that could create false. I mean also like it's a bad president

[01:22:23] It's a bad precedent. Yeah, if I'm a player

[01:22:26] Always want to I mean I don't mind obviously if we're getting rid of someone it means I'm staying in cool

[01:22:31] But I want to have that option to make a move if I want and of course had I been had had

[01:22:36] Kenzie and Tiffany been scheming a flip on cue or whatever

[01:22:41] I'm sure they were gonna vote right

[01:22:44] ability away

[01:22:46] My good friend Brandon Donlin didn't get to vote last season because they just sent Hannah home

[01:22:51] They were like okay, you can go Hannah and I just I

[01:22:55] Something about it doesn't sit right with me even when

[01:22:58] Everyone wants that person to go. I just just vote it lends a little more to window theory of like

[01:23:06] Jeff being like

[01:23:07] Yeah, it's time for Bono. Let's not risk this yeah

[01:23:10] I mean the other time that's happened is with

[01:23:13] Brandon Hans and

[01:23:15] Jeff Varner and then Hannah

[01:23:18] I want to say bono. Well, that's but that was a quit

[01:23:20] You know what I mean? I don't believe bono didn't quit and I don't think that

[01:23:24] Bono needs to be in the conversation with

[01:23:26] Varner and Brandon Hans. He shouldn't be there's no reason for it

[01:23:30] And it throws off the Wikipedia when not years later I go back and look at that Wikipedia. What happened here

[01:23:36] Yeah

[01:23:39] That's the one you're gonna be checking the

[01:23:42] It's a survivor 46 I gotta remember how the early game went

[01:23:46] Bono go third or fourth I can't recall

[01:23:48] What's the most riveting early games?

[01:23:51] How would you lensky have done

[01:23:54] You know what? I'm gonna let y'all know

[01:23:58] I made it to lensky has survived every vote and got the most votes at the end. I think he's gonna win

[01:24:03] Hahaha

[01:24:06] Jack atkins

[01:24:10] He is at

[01:24:13] To me it's not in my clothes

[01:24:16] If a son or 46 cast member wants to come to me because I'm not saying any of the players are bad players

[01:24:21] I'm not saying

[01:24:23] There's the sound bite

[01:24:25] I'm not saying that any of our bad players boring players this or that

[01:24:29] But just the events of you know the tribals and the benefit it's like

[01:24:34] And for 46 I want to be like no, this is the best TV out there like

[01:24:38] I got a little insider info for those who stuck around at the end of the podcast

[01:24:42] I know someone who works on survivor very very well season 45 was shot

[01:24:48] Knowing that there were gonna be 90 minute episodes where season 46 was not shot with that in mind

[01:24:54] They did not know they would continue

[01:24:57] Take that as you will I think that plays a little bit of what we've seen so far all

[01:25:01] I think so too

[01:25:02] Yeah, this is for the real fans only if you stuck around till the end here you get to know this that and you didn't hear it from me

[01:25:10] That's interesting

[01:25:13] I believe it on banyu

[01:25:16] That's interesting because I could tell you from this episode at least two scenes that were added in the jump theme

[01:25:21] The banyu slightly

[01:25:23] Yeah, that's very interesting

[01:25:26] Yeah, it makes a small difference

[01:25:28] But I think it I think it tributes to what some people are trying to verbalize a little yeah

[01:25:32] But that's the thing too. I don't mind like something silly camp light scenes

[01:25:36] I like them

[01:25:36] I watch all the secret scenes so like I don't dislike them

[01:25:40] But 45 the pacing was was crisp and it was there and you could tell

[01:25:46] Like when everything was going down like the pacing is really weird this season so far

[01:25:50] The first two episodes were two hours

[01:25:52] It's just it's

[01:25:53] I was off. I was off. I don't get none of the fast fast fast fast

[01:25:57] I think I like having more because like Bryce that it gives it sets things up for down the line and I never

[01:26:03] Have not at seeing more but yeah, it's just these you know

[01:26:06] That's why I have a lot of high hopes for next episode because no matter who loses immunity

[01:26:11] I think we'll have an interesting tribal

[01:26:14] Knock on wood and so next season I can be back here totally being like that was one of the best episodes of the new era

[01:26:20] So I don't if you're so hold your horses season 46 cast. Don't attack jack yet. Yeah

[01:26:26] Until next week. Yeah, until next week

[01:26:29] Then it's jack 21

[01:26:33] But remember 46

[01:26:36] Bryce and I love you okay

[01:26:38] You know

[01:26:40] Survivor news this is me I am very critical as an audience member

[01:26:46] I was critical as a player too. So I feel like I've been there. I've taken the criticism

[01:26:51] It all comes from a place to love if you can step out and put yourself on TV

[01:26:55] I applaud you first and foremost for that

[01:26:57] I appreciate you sharing your journey with me anything I say is from an audience standpoint

[01:27:03] I've never played survivor. I could be saying all the dumbest stuff in the world

[01:27:06] I just love the game so much and I love being like I love being able to talk about it with other people that love it

[01:27:12] So Alex Jack is never given that okay, okay Alex just through jack

[01:27:25] Jack's name and we just put jack's photo up and let those words

[01:27:29] I never close out of podcast with that much

[01:27:37] No, I just like I'm I like study this stuff now. I love watching it

[01:27:43] It's like a study of humans

[01:27:45] Sociologically who what would you do for a million dollars or in this case? What would you do for a million hearts?

[01:27:51] Yeah, that's right

[01:27:54] Do we need to speak on that?

[01:27:56] Well, no because I don't want to like I don't want to pour on him

[01:28:01] Because I mean yeah, it was a great quote. It was a great quote

[01:28:05] And the billion hearts you should come on tears. I want to hear

[01:28:10] But here is there a world though like let somebody say that to me. Okay. I'm taking you to the it like you know like

[01:28:16] Yeah, that's like you could win a million hearts in second place

[01:28:21] Yeah, I

[01:28:22] Here's my question to wrap us up or I don't know how long we have

[01:28:26] rap can you win and

[01:28:28] Can you win the million dollars and a million hearts at the same time?

[01:28:32] Gableer look at one

[01:28:34] Not exactly

[01:28:38] I said don't look there to stick with gableer

[01:28:42] Yeah, I don't yeah, so I'd say gableer

[01:28:46] Yeah, no, I think it's totally possible and this is what I want to discreem debano you can do both

[01:28:51] You can do both I promise don't sell yourself short, but see also like again. I think

[01:28:58] And again because I love banu I also think banu went out there like Hanasura how I went out there with kaggian

[01:29:03] I don't think I went out there with the intention to win well

[01:29:07] I know idea

[01:29:09] Yeah, no, no, I understand what you're saying

[01:29:12] I think survivor needs these people that are out there for the adventure of a lifetime if you will that is

[01:29:18] A good version of a fan that's not a recruit that would be playing the game maybe differently than most super fans

[01:29:24] I agree

[01:29:25] That's it. It's like when you get the super fans a lot of people are gonna play very similarly based on these last few episodes

[01:29:32] They seen and the history of the game whereas if you get these wild cards

[01:29:36] You don't know what's about to happen and they might play for a million hearts

[01:29:39] Great cast for choice. So no absolute 10 out of 10 thousand percent, but also he won my heart at the end there

[01:29:46] He got it. He got it though

[01:29:48] What I also do love about them casting super fans sometimes it's not like

[01:29:54] No, Shay sometimes it's not the great players that we get sometimes it is the jolensky's and I kind of always

[01:30:02] Love players

[01:30:04] I'm totally with you. We need both we can't have every super fan be amazing and awesome

[01:30:09] It's part of the diversity of like the show in the game

[01:30:12] We need a Jacob Duh when every once in a while you need a jolensky every once in a while to be like oh

[01:30:18] They don't all know what they're doing and it's not even that you don't know the game sometimes a real and uh here

[01:30:24] I go for a episode and I'm bringing up damn James Jones right

[01:30:27] James Jones says this to me all the time right like it's lived experiences

[01:30:31] And James Jones has this statistic that the most survivor winners fall in the range of 32 to 43

[01:30:39] Like oh most of the winners fall in that age range and it's like I

[01:30:43] I haven't gotten there yet

[01:30:45] But when I do is like I get it

[01:30:48] You know sometimes it's like there yeah you have to be book smart but you're not street smart

[01:30:53] And I understand it's connecting with people of all walks of life and when you're a bit older

[01:30:57] You have more experiences to relate with when you're 21 you're like oh, I'm in college

[01:31:01] What do you do and they're like oh, I work a job at this then you're like I don't know anything about that like right

[01:31:06] It's harder to relate

[01:31:08] So yeah, that's why I went to one ghost island but uh

[01:31:12] I'll take it. How old were you when you won ghost island?

[01:31:14] 33

[01:31:15] Wow

[01:31:16] And I've been that's always been my thing if you're in your 30s

[01:31:20] You're if you're in your 30s that is the time to win survivor

[01:31:24] What that's I totally get that I'm 30 now so I have joined the club. I get it. Yeah

[01:31:30] Um on kai guy and Bryce was I was in my 20s

[01:31:34] Yeah, you were in your 20s and I was doing 17 years ago

[01:31:40] Indole that math I just said I was like 17 years that can't be true

[01:31:44] It has been a decade this year though

[01:31:47] It is free yeah, that makes sense wow. That is that's nuts

[01:31:52] I am still yeah, I just turned 20 when I was on

[01:31:57] I wasn't even 20 when I filmed kai guy, but when it aired I was

[01:32:04] I'm not about to argue with you.

[01:32:06] Okay.

[01:32:07] 29 and a half.

[01:32:09] Yeah.

[01:32:10] Alex is so great to have you.

[01:32:12] Thank you for coming back.

[01:32:14] We might need you to retire.

[01:32:15] Well, let's check the tweets.

[01:32:17] If they want you to retire, maybe we'll have you back.

[01:32:25] We'll leave it up to the people.

[01:32:26] No, I'm really grateful that you guys asked me back.

[01:32:29] I have a fun time talking with all of you.

[01:32:31] It's great to see my good buddy, Jack here.

[01:32:33] And like I said, I'm just such a survivor super fan.

[01:32:36] So I appreciate you letting me come on and just

[01:32:39] gush with you guys.

[01:32:40] Listen, it's at least we could do.

[01:32:43] Okay.

[01:32:44] If we had a million dollars, we give it.

[01:32:46] But you know, here's the hearts.

[01:32:47] I'll take them all in hearts.

[01:32:51] Wendy Z.

[01:32:52] Thank you again.

[01:32:53] Also, Jack Eckens.

[01:32:55] Appreciate you.

[01:32:55] We are rooting for you.

[01:32:57] If you do not know this Sunday, Jack Eckens is in a celebrity boxing match.

[01:33:02] And the purple pants posse, I need your support to support my baby boy.

[01:33:08] Okay.

[01:33:09] We're going to need it.

[01:33:10] Got the Jolinsky reach.

[01:33:12] I'm flying out body to come pray for you.

[01:33:16] His negotiations with God were not the best.

[01:33:18] Maybe not the manager you want.

[01:33:20] I did hear some of my dissay Jolinsky is straining.

[01:33:24] Well, actually Jolinsky is in Vegas, but he's going to be out of town this weekend.

[01:33:30] I'm going to walk out of Jolinsky.

[01:33:33] That would have been great.

[01:33:34] He could have chucked an hour glass before you.

[01:33:36] That would have been a thing.

[01:33:37] I want to stop.

[01:33:38] I'm going to stop up by you now.

[01:33:40] But before we go, how are you feeling going into a Jack?

[01:33:44] It's a great question.

[01:33:45] I think I need cue to coach me on my answer here because he's about Jeff.

[01:33:51] It's time to vote.

[01:33:52] I'm chilling.

[01:33:53] And hopefully we're all vibing.

[01:33:57] Hopefully it should be a good time.

[01:34:00] We're also wearing a lot of detective gear.

[01:34:03] So what's the detective gear?

[01:34:05] We're wearing like head gear, mouth guard, most cushioned gloves, a cup, yo.

[01:34:13] Can't hit the belt.

[01:34:15] What is this MMA?

[01:34:16] I don't know why I'm in a cup, but I'm always happy to protect the jewels.

[01:34:23] But yeah, I don't know.

[01:34:24] It should be a fun weekend, baby boy.

[01:34:26] It's true.

[01:34:27] So I'm totally willing to sell my body for my next set.

[01:34:31] Right.

[01:34:32] Not this.

[01:34:34] Well, let's eject.

[01:34:35] We support you.

[01:34:36] So you know we will be your cheerleaders.

[01:34:39] We will be watching here on the East Coast.

[01:34:42] And if you guys want to tune in to support Jack Eckens, he has it on his page, 21 Jack

[01:34:48] Eckens, and this is 21 to 6 casts.

[01:34:51] Check it out.

[01:34:52] It reviews only $15 so it's not your classic paper view where it's like 60.

[01:34:58] So if you want to.

[01:35:00] I'm excited.

[01:35:01] We'll get another first time you were going to do this.

[01:35:05] The other one got canceled right?

[01:35:06] Exactly.

[01:35:07] I did train a little bit for that.

[01:35:09] If you're a 46 or who doesn't like me, you're definitely.

[01:35:12] Then.

[01:35:13] That was all employed and get people to watch.

[01:35:16] It's like a dunk contest.

[01:35:17] He had to make himself super unlikely before the.

[01:35:19] I'm not going to I'm not going to shit talk my opponent, but I will.

[01:35:23] No, 46.

[01:35:25] Yeah, he's like, I'm going to leave Brett Brown alone, but 46 have covered for you.

[01:35:31] Nobody is specific just the basic of the episode.

[01:35:35] He's like, I'm meeting the editors and the sit in the back.

[01:35:39] We're going outside.

[01:35:41] No, maybe I'm on with the same guest.

[01:35:45] Yeah, well, Sunday night.

[01:35:49] So all right.

[01:35:50] All right.

[01:35:51] I'm going to get the paper view deck.

[01:35:52] Right?

[01:35:53] You coming over to watch?

[01:35:54] See, I will be there.

[01:35:57] All right.

[01:35:58] This been your survivor news.

[01:35:59] We'll be back next week.

[01:36:02] Covering episode five and we'll see how to pace go.

[01:36:05] We'll see how we'll see how Jack.

[01:36:12] You have to now.

[01:36:13] In fact, yourself into a quarter.

[01:36:15] Just fucking buckle in.

[01:36:17] Yeah.

[01:36:18] All right.

[01:36:19] Thanks for listening.

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