This week, Mike and Liana are joined by Omar Zaheer and Lindsay Dolashewich for episode 13.[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Mike and the Yana gather playing some games You better pray to your mama that they're not super lame And if that all sounds cool I can tell you the name It's the R-H-A-P B&B Mike and the Yana
[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey everybody and welcome back to the R-H-A-P B&B for week 13 of Survivor 47. My name is Mike Bloom. Whether you want to call a part one of the finale or just the penultimate episode, the endgame has begun and we shall see if it concludes in such a massive format as the Avengers proper.
[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And we brought together perhaps an Avengers like panel of people to break down a big two hour installment of Survivor 47. Of course, I can think of no better person to talk with me alongside this episode. Puts the duo truly in the duology of this two part finale. It is of course Liana. Boris, hi Liana.
[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Hi Mike, can I be this part of the finale and you can be the next part of the finale?
[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, because I think, you know, we as we know, the after show is always one big enigma. And I do think amongst the two of us that makes a lot more fitting sense. So I am more than happy to advocate that to you, Liana.
[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, perfect. I'm glad with that distinction because for me, this is like this is the exciting part. I love the final six, final five boots. As exciting as they are, they're exciting. Okay.
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, lose amazing people during them. Well, you talk about loving the final six and final five boots. And I can think of two. I can think of nothing if I should say of two better people to bring on then the final six and the final five boots fittingly enough of a survivor 42.
[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_02]: We have, you know, tried and true guest and someone new as well. So let me welcome in the name that you may know familiar to this place. Of course, the great Omer Zaheer. Hi, Omer.
[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello. And not mommy throwing strays already.
[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. As I was saying it, I mean, it is a compliment.
[00:02:18] I think.
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello. Happy to be here.
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think you're just sure you're trying to simulate the Genevieve teeny dynamic, right? By just being incredibly complicated. Liana spinning you right now, Omer. Yeah, she is spinning me and I don't appreciate it. And also that's why she's going to be out before the end of this podcast.
[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And also, I'm not calling it part one of the finale or the penultimate episode. I'm calling this a double episode.
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, one hour episodes.
[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just an all how you brand it, you know?
[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Well, you know, big throwback to back in the day when they would not only say, yeah, we're going to air an episode the day before Thanksgiving, but we're going to throw two episodes in there for the price of one.
[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're trying to smooth it over like cream cheese, you know, as man once said.
[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. To quote a famous Thanksgiving episode.
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And we have decided to double up as well and bring in a brand new guest.
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_02]: So thrilled to welcome in for the first time from Survivor 42.
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Lindsay Lawashwitch.
[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Hello, hello. Thank you for having me.
[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_07]: It's really nice being able to be here with Omer as a top six and top five because it's going to be a little bit of PTSD from my season.
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_07]: So it's nice to be with some good supportive people as we unwind this entire episode.
[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Not only that, let me reveal just how purely coincidental all this ended up being.
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Not only are Andy and Genevieve the sixth and fifth place finishers of Survivor 47,
[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_02]: when I got the chance to talk with them in the preseason.
[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, I asked them which players do they identify with the most?
[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Andy said Omer.
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve said Lindsay.
[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: That's so funny.
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_02]: The stars have aligned in such a way.
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: To have you all talk about your, I guess, assumed doppelgangers here.
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Though truly, I think these are two of some of the most enigmatic players we have had in the new era for sure.
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Andy was watching my GDD streams.
[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why he said me.
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think, Liana?
[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Is Pooja going to try to get Andy in once that like NDA expires?
[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, definitely.
[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely, definitely.
[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this cast has been really fun.
[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of people, if they want to come play, if Andy wants to come meet his hero, Omer,
[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: then I think we can arrange that as well.
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But I didn't realize.
[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember GDD too.
[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You should get his ass on that.
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, well, we'll do just for you.
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think what's more interesting is the Genevieve Lindsay connection,
[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: because that I didn't actually didn't remember that at all.
[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I do remember Andy mentioning Omer because to me, that was a red flag.
[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's amazing.
[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Lindsay, like, did you remember that Genevieve had said that?
[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: How do you feel about her following in your footsteps?
[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_07]: I completely forgot that.
[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_07]: And I love that that got brought up because it warms my heart.
[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_07]: And I really enjoyed watching her play.
[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_07]: So I found that to be a nice comparison,
[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_07]: even though I will say I think she composed her gameplay much better than I did.
[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_07]: So maybe a little less of a comparison, but I love it either way.
[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: So I want to go back to what you were mentioning before, Liana,
[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_02]: that again, we're sort of in you could call it Uncharted Waters or you could just call it a rebranding.
[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_02]: This idea of doubling up the final six and final five boots,
[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: then kind of like shifting one hour away from our usual three hour finale
[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_02]: to then create a two hour finale next week.
[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And the benefit is in the short term.
[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And that I thought we got a very fun episode.
[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, there's a big question mark as to like,
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_02]: how do you follow up Operation Italy last week?
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought we got even with a fairly straightforward boot in Genevieve,
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_02]: still a lot of fun intrigue around it.
[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: But perhaps it might come at the cost in the long term in that this means next week
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_02]: we are going to get final four fire making, final tribal council and then the after show.
[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: So, Omar, give me your thoughts on their choice,
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: whether it be from production or CBS's perspective to double up here
[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_02]: in terms of like, you know, short term love versus perhaps long term loathe.
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that the six pairing to six and five episodes,
[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I think makes a lot of sense.
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you need an hour and a half for six people left anymore.
[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they would have just if there had been a 90 minute on 42,
[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_01]: just been another 30 minutes bagging on me, you know, so we don't need that.
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a perfect six and five episode that they showed.
[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the bigger issue, I think four and three, you know, we've seen in Survivor,
[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: they've done that as a finale for people.
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's very entertaining when there's a vote.
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the finale is going to be the worst part of the season.
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of agree.
[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing is that it's OK.
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to watch two people.
[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's going to be an immunity challenge.
[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, great.
[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Then there's going to be final four fire making,
[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: which we already actually got a ton of sort of set up.
[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Even in this episode, there's a ton of Teeny V Rachel, Teeny V Rachel.
[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So my head, I'm like, OK, well, is it going to be Teeny V Rachel,
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, in the in the fire making?
[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.
[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: It just to me, it just feels like unless we have a season 43 where,
[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, the potential presumptive winner and Jesse,
[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: like if Rachel goes out, but then we still have Sam sort of is like
[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_00]: who's being set up as our backup winner anyway.
[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.
[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just don't think that there's a ton of intrigue necessarily
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: going into the finale.
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there was I think there was a hint that the person making fire
[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: is going to be Santa City Sue with all of the soot.
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_00]: She's getting up close.
[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I feel like that's.
[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't know.
[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Is soot flammable?
[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I actually fear I wouldn't want to put her into fire
[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_02]: because like that could be like a Michael Jackson filming the Pepsi
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_02]: commercial issue where like if she gets too close to it, look out.
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm imagining her just rubbing her own face.
[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like get this.
[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Could that help?
[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Not fire making expert.
[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_07]: I kind of have a different assumption based off of this being the first
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_07]: switch up of having a double half finale of the six and the five
[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_07]: would be in a perfect world that I would think there must be enough
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_07]: like juiciness going on in the final three jury voting that I'm hoping
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_07]: that maybe there is a lot longer amount of jury questioning,
[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_07]: which either could be maybe our assumed winner is out.
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_07]: And now they have other people there and they need to now be able to build
[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_07]: up that winner story to prove why they deserve to win.
[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Otherwise, all the viewers are going to be.
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't understand why this person won.
[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_07]: So they might be putting a lot more time into that whole buildup.
[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_07]: If that were to be the case, or let's say the potential winner is there,
[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_07]: but you want to have a better case with all three, same deal.
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Giving all three people enough time to really be able to prove their case
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_07]: within the viewers are like, maybe not.
[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_07]: I also love the jury questioning.
[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_07]: So I'm biased on that.
[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_07]: That's my favorite part of survivor every time I've watched.
[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_07]: So I'd always prefer to have more watching of those questions than
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_07]: half of it being just the fire making.
[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_07]: And then half of it being the finale.
[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I completely agree on a lot of that stuff.
[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: As a fellow lover of the jury voting as well,
[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I would really enjoy the opportunity to get more of it.
[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I also wonder if production feels like this is a very strong cast,
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_02]: particularly on the jury.
[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_02]: So this is an opportunity to hear from people more.
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I also wonder now,
[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't say this would be like indirect response to 46,
[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_02]: which was true in the spirit of for survivor 46,
[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_02]: just like a hot mess in terms of people voting the way we didn't think they'd
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_02]: vote in multiple directions.
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And then not really knowing the rationale behind things until either in the
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_02]: after show or after the fact,
[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe they wanted to set up in an editing perspective,
[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_02]: understanding more as to,
[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_02]: okay,
[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_02]: if you're voting for this person in the moment,
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_02]: why?
[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Or if they're just kind of filling out time,
[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I would much rather them do it with the final three,
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_02]: then yeah.
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Final four,
[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_02]: is okay.
[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_02]: If,
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_02]: if Rachel wins immunity,
[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: then I guess it's,
[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: it's somewhat interesting,
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_02]: but she still has by far the best chance of winning in the final three.
[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_02]: If she loses,
[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_02]: then it could become this interesting survivor 43 scenario of like,
[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_02]: okay,
[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_02]: choose your champion who wants to be the person to possibly slay the final
[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_02]: boss and get all that credit Allah Gabler.
[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_02]: So I am most looking forward to the jury vote behind it also,
[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_02]: because when it comes to prognosticating at all,
[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_02]: again,
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I think all of us and a lot of the community are kind of in agreement
[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_02]: that pretty much Rachel's to lose at this point.
[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But again,
[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_02]: if last season proved anything,
[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_02]: it's that,
[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and as your season itself proved in survivor 42,
[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot can change once you get all dressed to the nines and sit down in
[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_02]: those jury chairs one last time.
[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That is.
[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that,
[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I think,
[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the finale though is going to be that different than people
[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_01]: thought just because wasn't the first hour of the finale,
[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_01]: the final five vote anyways,
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and they've just shortened it to two.
[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like it's going to feel very similar,
[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: except less satisfying because there's no actual voting out.
[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I think if I would be great,
[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: but apparently not.
[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: that's,
[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: that's actually a really good point because it,
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_00]: what traditionally was a three.
[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: at least in the most recent previous years,
[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: three hour finale,
[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: right?
[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: The first hour was the final five.
[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the second two hours were all of the things that are going to be in
[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_00]: this finale anyway.
[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah,
[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_00]: all the fixings.
[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah,
[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess it doesn't make sense.
[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I love Lindsay.
[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I love that theory for the jury.
[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm also hoping that that's what happens because then that will add at least more levels of
[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_00]: intrigue or even if it ends up being still a Rachel victory,
[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_00]: we can maybe get more explanation as to why people voted the way they did and just get a little bit
[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: more clarity.
[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So we don't have to wait until post-season interviews to try to understand how people are thinking.
[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Though,
[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: if I were the business of IE players that some of these new era people are,
[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I would actually be a little angry if more of my rationale was being shown because I feel like
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_02]: how much of a person's post-season cameo earnings are from people writing in and being like,
[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: here's $15.
[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Can you explain to me why you voted for this person?
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Or why somebody else voted the way they did it?
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: There's never a way to make a sidewalk.
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I think people are still going to have intrigue,
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think the interesting,
[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: okay,
[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: my,
[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: can I give a hot take about the jury?
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: always.
[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that while the old style questioning one-on-one was far more entertaining,
[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_01]: that the new style of a panel results in a more informed decision and a better winner.
[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: go on.
[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I just felt that,
[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_01]: when you get up there,
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: you soapbox for,
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_01]: whatever,
[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_01]: you don't really get to,
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: it's,
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: it's,
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's one-on-one.
[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's more about the,
[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: the juror than it is the finalists.
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And that can be very entertaining when the jury is mad.
[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: However,
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it really gets the root of the game,
[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_01]: but when it's structured as out,
[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_01]: uh,
[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: strategic,
[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: social,
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: physical,
[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's a whole panel that is asking questions specifically about those aspects of the game.
[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh,
[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: our final tribal was like three hours.
[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Was it not?
[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_01]: We really delved into every one of those aspects to make an informed decision.
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that that is a better way to result in an informed juror decision,
[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: as long as the people are open-minded going into it.
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_07]: I like that too,
[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_07]: because I did feel like back way back in the day,
[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_07]: day,
[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_07]: it was kind of like,
[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_07]: as long as you knew how to say the right thing to that juror for your answer,
[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_07]: it kind of was like,
[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_07]: you had your moment to kind of win them.
[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_07]: So I do like it being more broad where you really need to sell it to the whole panel.
[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_07]: So I actually,
[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_07]: I agree with you.
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_07]: I do like that better.
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's less entertaining,
[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_07]: but yeah,
[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe it's entertaining.
[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_02]: It depends.
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause like,
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_07]: cause I do like asking a question.
[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And I do like sometimes now that you get a bit of like,
[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: obviously with the more exclusive dynamic,
[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_02]: you couldn't get many comments from the peanut gallery because the assumption,
[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_02]: or maybe like the actual production mandate was like,
[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_02]: you'll get your time to stand up.
[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Like let's,
[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_02]: let's give this person their time.
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know,
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I think if we get the old jury question format,
[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_02]: we don't get like the three-way arguing of the news last season where they're just
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_02]: all going back and forth.
[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And like Kenzie and Q were arguing and she asked Tiffany for a clarification and
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Tiffany's in the corner timing,
[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_02]: all the answers.
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Like,
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I think depending on the cast.
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think now that these casts have gotten used to this dynamic,
[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_02]: they're able,
[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_02]: it's become a little bit more of like a more round table,
[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe Liana,
[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_02]: a bit of like a thesis presentation to a group of people,
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_02]: as opposed to like what it was the first couple of times they did it,
[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_02]: which is like,
[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_02]: okay,
[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess we're supposed to sit here silent and people will have to wait for Jeff
[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: to bring up the part of the rubric that we're supposed to represent.
[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_01]: They should have given us a rubric.
[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I would have loved that.
[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Little categories.
[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Outlet outplay out loud.
[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I wanted to bring a notepad with everything we went over during like the whiteboard
[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_07]: behind the scenes before we got there.
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_07]: And I could not bring that.
[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_07]: I was like,
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not going to remember all these things.
[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I have a list.
[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh,
[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_07]: that's interesting.
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_07]: I want to know.
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_07]: And if it doesn't get answered,
[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm asking it.
[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause I've heard mixed things as to whether or not production lets you talk
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: about the game while you're at Ponderosa.
[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Was that something that you were able to do?
[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_02]: What's it,
[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_02]: something that was like reserved for the night before final tribal that you went
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_02]: into a boardroom and just,
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_02]: did a SWOT analysis of all the final three.
[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know when people weren't talking about the game.
[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Like that was literally,
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_07]: I think the only thing I talked about the entire time,
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_07]: all you are doing is debriefing.
[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_07]: I remember,
[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if it was the night before or two nights.
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was the night before.
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: The night Jonathan came in.
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause it was you,
[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_07]: me,
[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Rox Roy were the,
[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_07]: and then I think Jonathan came in and we were all acting as if,
[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_07]: as one of the finalists pitching our own case till like 4am.
[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_07]: It was really fun.
[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_07]: I actually really like the joy.
[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh,
[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_07]: my favorite part.
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Rox Roy was a Romeo's lawyer.
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you did a great job.
[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually.
[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_07]: I was going to say,
[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_07]: and I was Mike,
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_07]: right?
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's how we did it.
[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_07]: You all did a mock trial.
[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_07]: That's incredible.
[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_07]: It was so fun.
[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_07]: I really enjoyed it.
[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_07]: So then of course I had all my notes of all these great things we wanted to go over.
[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_07]: So it's hard to remember it all in the moment.
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh,
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: that's so,
[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: that's so interesting.
[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,
[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I think to hear you guys say that you,
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_00]: you're like,
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: you're actually practicing going through the whole thing.
[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that also indicates how prepared you are,
[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: even if you don't have your notes with you for the actual jury,
[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,
[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: round table,
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess the segment kind of.
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So in that final three,
[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_00]: you can really get into all of those different points.
[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You can ask follow-up questions.
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You can argue back to the person.
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You can have other people commenting.
[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's just a way to really get to the root as Omar says,
[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_00]: like you're getting to the actual root of the issue.
[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So if they're able,
[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_00]: if this season,
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: which I think this season will do this exactly times 10,
[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: they seem to be so invested in the game.
[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_00]: This group is so into.
[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I bet you dollars to donuts.
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Andy is already running like an algorithm the night he gets voted out as
[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_02]: to like,
[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: okay,
[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: this is the game plug in number of immunity challenges divided by a number of
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_02]: times they were blindsided.
[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_07]: It's better because honestly,
[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_07]: a bitter jury is definitely not that entertaining.
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_07]: So it's nice.
[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I have a poltergeist in my apartment.
[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_07]: So no lights.
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_07]: All of a sudden there's been back and forth.
[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_07]: I know no one can see this as they're listening,
[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_07]: but my lights keep flickering and now they're dim.
[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Don't mind that,
[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_07]: but.
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I have a random question to ask you,
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Omar,
[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: because this is still kind of piggybacking off of last week,
[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_02]: but obviously a lot of conversations as to was operation Italy,
[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_02]: the best new era move,
[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_02]: the best episode of the new era.
[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And there are obviously a lot of other episodes of contention.
[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_02]: One of them being,
[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_02]: of course,
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_02]: your blind side from your perspective.
[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you like,
[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_02]: how dare anyone try to one up my episode?
[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Or are you like,
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_02]: good.
[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_02]: The more people that like,
[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_02]: don't highlight how I got blindsided,
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: the better.
[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that that's a good question.
[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's so,
[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's more nuanced than just a yes or no.
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Like,
[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that my vote out was presented as a very one sided.
[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Effort,
[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_01]: like it really looked like it was a hundred percent Marianne.
[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And I still think she was the most responsible for it,
[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_01]: but there were parts that Jonathan and Mike played that were not really
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: shown or highlighted just because it wasn't important to the end story.
[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Because going into final tribal council,
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_01]: there was still some question mark as to who the true ownership of my vote
[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_01]: out was.
[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_01]: There was contention about it and it was clear,
[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_01]: clear it up at final tribal council for sure,
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: in my opinion.
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that it was more collaborative move than was displayed on the
[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: show where,
[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: but,
[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and also you could argue if Lindsay had played the amulet,
[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: would that have been a good move?
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was like,
[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and no offense to us.
[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about this at length.
[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: We're stupid as hell for not doing that.
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It was the obvious thing to do because it was the last time to use it.
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And so if we had played from the AI optimal standpoint,
[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_01]: then that move would have not been good per se,
[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_01]: but was that Marianne's only chance to like really make her mark?
[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And does she have to go for it regardless?
[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I think yes.
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Similarly to Andy,
[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_01]: he's in a position where he must try something to have more win equity at
[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_01]: the end,
[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_01]: because if he just sticks the course,
[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_01]: he's going to lose.
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think he has to try something,
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_01]: even if it's more risky in the short term.
[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think actually,
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_01]: even though he got voted out,
[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_01]: we cannot be results oriented.
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the worst way to be the scientific process,
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: right?
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Mommy,
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_01]: right?
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Liana as a scientist.
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that,
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_01]: even this episode kind of proved that it was the right move for Andy
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_01]: because teeny flipped on Rachel.
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he had the numbers.
[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just that Rachel had the idol that they about,
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_01]: which you can't account for everything you don't know about.
[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,
[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_00]: and also,
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah,
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: exactly.
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So I,
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I had thought that Andy might have been voted out at final six as a
[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_00]: consequence of the move,
[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: because they really emphasize that Genevieve still had the idol,
[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: the potential idol.
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that maybe.
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that teeny was going to maybe stick with Rachel and Sue.
[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And then that group of three was going to block a vote and then vote
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: out Andy thinking that Genevieve would never play the idol for Andy.
[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So then he would have gone as a consequence of making that move.
[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that he,
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_00]: that was,
[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe objectively the right move.
[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: The only reason he ended up going out is because he makes this pitch to
[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Rachel for the jury management.
[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: exactly.
[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It was for jury management.
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what ends up turning Rachel into wanting to vote Andy out wild
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: to me.
[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_07]: And that's why ultimately it's like survivor confidence.
[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Whenever you have that survivor confidence,
[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_07]: it always gets you.
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_07]: And that jury management was so survivor confident where it's like,
[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_07]: why?
[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_07]: And as the receiving end of that,
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't care what it is.
[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I am pissed.
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_07]: I remember when I had jury management,
[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm like,
[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_07]: this person just really is just putting the salt in the wound.
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Like now I definitely am not.
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Wait,
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: can you,
[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know this story.
[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Does the jury manage you on the way out?
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Um,
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_07]: it was kind of like,
[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_07]: I knew I was getting voted out at five and I kind of felt like I,
[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_07]: it was like a dog's last day before getting put down.
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Jonathan's like,
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_07]: come on,
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_07]: let's go look at the sunset together.
[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Let's all go.
[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Like slowly breaks your neck.
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Look at the rabbits.
[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_07]: And then we were,
[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_07]: we were talking about something and I remember,
[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_07]: um,
[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_07]: it was Mike and Jonathan both at one point,
[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_07]: we're just trying to like stroke my ego at the end when like,
[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_07]: I knew the conversation wasn't going my way.
[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_07]: And in my head,
[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm like,
[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I have an agenda in this conversation that you're totally going around
[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_07]: just to give me a compliment.
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_07]: I know that you're just jury man managing me now.
[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_07]: And now I'm really annoyed,
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_07]: but let's go look at the sunset.
[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_07]: I would love this before they take you upstate.
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Just drop me off at a farm.
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: it's wild because like,
[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine on paper,
[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_02]: you're like,
[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_02]: well,
[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_02]: while I am sending you to the jury,
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a remarkably short turnaround,
[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_02]: right?
[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Even though this is one round earlier than you,
[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Lindsay,
[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_02]: it's still like three days basically until final tribal council.
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like,
[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_02]: let me get a good in word or from Annie's perspective,
[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_02]: it's more so like,
[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know,
[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_02]: partially let me kind of send my envoy,
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_02]: like people respect you,
[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Rachel on the jury.
[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So they'll listen to you when you tell them,
[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_02]: just keep an open mind.
[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,
[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Leon,
[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I was surprised initially.
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I think this makes so much sense in,
[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_02]: in a season full of complicated dynamics,
[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_02]: the Andy and Rachel of it all.
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Like,
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_02]: let's look at the fact that the premiere started with Andy pulling Rachel aside
[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_02]: in the middle of the night,
[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_02]: like,
[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and really starting to show how fractured his game would become with him
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_02]: being like,
[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm tripping right now,
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and you need to be,
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_02]: bring me down from this high.
[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And she's like,
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_02]: dude,
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't do that right now.
[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Now you're pulling us aside.
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You expressly did what I told you not to do,
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_02]: which then leads to this really tumultuous game where he's going to
[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_02]: blindside her three times.
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to keep saying they're going to work together,
[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_02]: but kind of not end up working together.
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And then culminating in this sequence where again,
[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Andy is going to pull Rachel aside.
[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And once again,
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_02]: she will rebuff him and by basically taking away his buff in the form of
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_02]: idling,
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I think was such an interesting thing.
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: also the fact that the Rachel's advantage,
[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: not even the idol,
[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: but the block of vote,
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I think really came into play more than you may think,
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_02]: because I,
[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_02]: if I were the majority here,
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I split the votes two,
[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: two between Rachel and Sue.
[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_02]: No.
[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And we still don't know like how much people knew about the red paint
[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_02]: idol,
[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_02]: but like that seems to be the easiest thing to do,
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_02]: do the whole John Mish vote,
[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_02]: split it two,
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_02]: two,
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_02]: two vote out Rachel on the revo,
[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_02]: because Rachel has this block of vote that now is super duper public
[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_02]: information because teeny thought that they were able to,
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_02]: to out something in that moment before,
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_02]: after Andy did,
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_02]: they can't really do that.
[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_02]: They kind of just have to like throw everything behind Rachel and hope for
[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_02]: the best.
[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And unfortunately they got the worst.
[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Does still nobody know who the block of vote was from?
[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Why do you feel like based mechanically?
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not revealed,
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: but they all know because Rachel told everybody or told some people.
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And then teeny told everybody.
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_02]: right.
[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_02]: There was,
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_02]: there's this idea of like,
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_02]: huh,
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_02]: this thing got you who most recently went on a journey by themselves and
[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: possibly could have come back with an advantage just by claiming that
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_02]: they didn't.
[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Classic.
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: The,
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: uh,
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: another moment in the,
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: the Rachel Andy dynamic is when Rachel is initially pitching why she
[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_00]: should stay.
[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_00]: She has some really interesting comments to Andy.
[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like she has one quote I wrote down verbatim,
[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_00]: which says,
[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's clear you're in dead last.
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Rachel.
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_04]: It was harsh.
[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I loved hearing that.
[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like,
[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_04]: this is some juicy stuff to watch,
[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_02]: but it was good considering what she said to him on the way out.
[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It does make a lot of sense too,
[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_02]: right?
[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You were very convincing,
[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_02]: but not in the way that you thought.
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God.
[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I could.
[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So,
[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: definitely like Andy misstep with,
[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_00]: in terms of the jury management,
[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: trying to do the jury management,
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: but also the fact that Rachel's at the day though.
[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Also like,
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_00]: my God.
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to Emily flip and push back on that a little bit.
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I think,
[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: okay.
[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So everyone gives Andy a hard time for doing that.
[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And I agree.
[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it went a little bit too far,
[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_01]: but also I do think in his AI optimization,
[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_01]: he is right.
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he needed to start that process of priming the jury before he actually
[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_01]: gets in front of them.
[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it seems like they're quite pissed at him.
[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And they are discounting everything that he's doing.
[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And so how does he tangibly prove what he's doing retroactively when a lot of
[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_01]: it is a lot more subtle?
[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it is getting somebody in there.
[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And if he thinks that Rachel's on his way,
[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_01]: her way out,
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I get where he's coming from.
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not so much detail.
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that the concept was,
[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it made sense.
[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't,
[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't disagree.
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: go ahead.
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.
[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Sorry.
[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Well,
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_07]: first thing with what Rachel said to Andy of like,
[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_07]: you're dead last.
[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_07]: I thought that was a stinger,
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_07]: but at the same time,
[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_07]: I kind of took it as she was trying to rev up his anger and be like,
[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_07]: you should be pissed because based off of what they did,
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_07]: you're in last rather than her saying from her perspective,
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_07]: you're in last kind of her being like,
[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_07]: that's how they perceived it.
[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_07]: And you should be just as pissed off.
[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_07]: So I could see that being her angle of kind of giving a harsh zinger to
[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_07]: kind of get his emotions up.
[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_07]: But then with the Andy thing,
[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_07]: I agree.
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_07]: I think on one end you can think,
[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_07]: well,
[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_07]: he needs to start pitching his case because he understands that his
[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_07]: perception of him is the total opposite.
[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_07]: But then the way that I was thinking,
[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_07]: at least how I was out there was I was kind of conservative of not
[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_07]: wanting to have a risk of rubbing something the wrong way that I'm like,
[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_07]: you know,
[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_07]: if I make the final three,
[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_07]: that's my time to pitch my whole story.
[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_07]: So as long as I can explain it very well,
[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't need to do it early and have them infiltrate the rest of the jury to
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_07]: convince them because I will do a good job in the final three to answer
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_07]: those right then and there.
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_07]: But if Andy felt that that might be too little,
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_07]: too late and they've already made their mind before walking in,
[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_07]: then I could also see that being the case too.
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So that and that's exactly what he told me at an exit press was that
[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_02]: basically he's like,
[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_02]: listen,
[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I could pull the Christie Bennett in an Australian survivor and give like
[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_02]: this powerhouse speech or the Marianne as well in a manner of speaking
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and win hearts and minds over the course of an evening.
[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_02]: But I know that's going to be very tough to do.
[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be definitely more uphill sledding.
[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I think than someone like Marianne where there's just so much perception
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_02]: about Andy specifically as a flipper that I think it's going to be very tough
[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_02]: for him to prove like,
[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_02]: no,
[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_02]: but I was doing it for a good reason.
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's what it comes down to me for Andy is that while there is
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_02]: a surprising amount of emotion linked with his game,
[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_02]: he is someone that is trying to think about it kind of from like an economic
[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_02]: math based perspective of like,
[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_02]: this is what on paper I should be doing.
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I think what it comes down to is like either the way you're doing it or the
[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_02]: person you're doing it to as well,
[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_02]: which is always those,
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_02]: those variables that you can't account for in this huge equation.
[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And that is a 23 day game of survivor.
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I think for me,
[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_00]: it's like,
[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I understand the logic behind doing that.
[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the way that he did.
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: we didn't see everything,
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_00]: but some of the quotes were also just a little bit awkward.
[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So like,
[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: for example,
[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_00]: he told Rachel,
[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah,
[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: you'll be on the jury,
[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_00]: but I want you to respect my decisions.
[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_00]: To me,
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: like that comes across as like very harsh.
[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It's essentially saying you're going on the jury and I need you to do this
[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_00]: instead of like,
[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey,
[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: let me advocate for why I think I did a good job.
[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like,
[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you to do this.
[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's a very different,
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: it's,
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: it is trying to do the same thing,
[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_00]: but it's essentially telling someone to do something versus just advocating
[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_00]: your point and then letting them like run with that and make that
[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: decision.
[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So we didn't see the full conversation.
[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't,
[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And again,
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: it was convincing,
[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: which is why I got her out.
[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it was,
[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_00]: it was,
[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_00]: he was never going to win by trying to do this anyway.
[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think I'm just someone who's like hypersensitive to the way that things are phrased.
[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And sort of how you phrase things really impacts how that information can be received by others,
[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_00]: even if the intention is exactly the same.
[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_02]: speaking of another complicated dynamic,
[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I do want to get into a moment from the final five vote,
[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_02]: because it's so interesting to experience a bit of cognitive dissonance where the night before everyone is giving their eulogy to this open casket service for Rachel talking about like how she's so great,
[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_02]: how she's this huge thread.
[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_02]: She would definitely go on to win or have a good chance at it considering her immunity prowess and the final four fire making.
[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_02]: She ends up surviving due to a nice of happenstance basket of fries from the auction.
[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And then the next day when Rachel and Genevieve go off and do their,
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_02]: for the umpteen time,
[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_02]: we're not so different.
[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_02]: You and I,
[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_02]: neither can live all the other survive.
[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You have these other three players being like,
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_02]: look at them.
[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Who do they think they are claiming they're the biggest threat?
[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_02]: In the game.
[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Omer,
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_02]: talk to me about this.
[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Is this like a conversation that we see all on the island on survivor often and just doesn't really get shown until now?
[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Or is this a special case with Rachel and Genevieve?
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think my perspective was,
[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_01]: or my experience personally was I didn't want to talk about the end of the game with a lot of people,
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: especially in group settings.
[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I did not want,
[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I was,
[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to act like I didn't even,
[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_01]: wasn't even thinking about the end,
[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_01]: were kind of day by day.
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't really have those types of conversations.
[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I know that Marianne did say at one point,
[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_01]: uh,
[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay and Drea were talking to each other about how they were like huge threats.
[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And Marianne was just sitting there being like,
[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: remember that?
[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: uh,
[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: okay.
[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Well,
[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_07]: like what I was really doing was trying to like stroke Drea's ego in a way of like having that kind of reel her in,
[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_07]: but the optics to Marianne looked horrible.
[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_01]: There's always a purpose,
[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_01]: but,
[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah,
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say that that was the closest thing that I could somewhat remember,
[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: from our experience,
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_01]: but I feel like we didn't really talk about that,
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_01]: that much in group settings.
[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like,
[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah,
[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_07]: no,
[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_07]: it was more so like who we've,
[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_07]: I,
[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_07]: for me,
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_07]: it was more so who I felt was like,
[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_07]: was very,
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_07]: I guess like boisterous about like being in control of the game.
[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Like there was a point where I felt like,
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_07]: hi,
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Andrea were always pulling aside,
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_07]: chatting about stuff.
[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm like,
[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_07]: they were on two different tribes.
[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_07]: The only connection that two of them would have is the amulet.
[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_07]: And I have the third one.
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Why am I not in on this conversation?
[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_07]: The two of them seem really chummy.
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_07]: And it felt like they were kind of like,
[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah,
[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_07]: we're in control of what's going on.
[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_07]: So that was more of a vibe.
[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_07]: I had not so much of like,
[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_07]: we're going to win.
[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_07]: We're the final two.
[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_07]: We control the game.
[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_07]: It was more that in the middle of the game that I felt.
[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the,
[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_02]: the Asia analogy that you brought up,
[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_02]: right?
[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Of,
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_02]: it's the group chat of three people,
[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_02]: the amulet people.
[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And then you see the two of them having lunch together.
[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And you're like,
[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_02]: why did you not fire this off in the group chat for all of us?
[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we should put on our invisibility cloaks.
[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_01]: We said Baltimore too many times now.
[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I,
[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I did kind of want them to try to figure out who was who.
[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Who did they think each one of them is?
[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Which one's Harry Potter and who's the.
[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_00]: No,
[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_02]: is it more Canadian to be like,
[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm the nicer one.
[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Harry Potter.
[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Or is it more like,
[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_02]: you know what?
[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Actually you can,
[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_02]: you can be here.
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be Voldemort.
[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll take that on.
[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to be Voldemort.
[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not even going to lie.
[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot that that was a line in the story.
[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01]: My,
[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01]: my referred to something else.
[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_02]: But I do think that I do think that,
[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_02]: uh,
[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve,
[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I think would also call herself Voldemort because she,
[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_02]: when she talks about like putting up walls and blocking people,
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_02]: is that not like,
[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_02]: wait,
[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_02]: who's everybody else then?
[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Who's Andy?
[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Is he,
[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_02]: um,
[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_02]: like that?
[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And Andy's Ron Weasley.
[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause Andy's like,
[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm the goofball who like actually is able to come and use at some
[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_02]: points.
[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I know wizard chess.
[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm able to save everybody.
[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Not me,
[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_02]: not Hermione,
[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_02]: you.
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh,
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that Sam is,
[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_02]: uh,
[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Neville.
[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Who's Neville?
[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought Andy could also be Neville.
[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Andy is Neville too.
[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Sam could be God.
[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Now.
[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_02]: The names are escaping me.
[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Robert Pattinson's character.
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Cedric.
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Cedric Diggory.
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_02]: the way teeny talked about Sam very much felt like the golden boy of
[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Hufflepuff can do no wrong.
[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Quidditch captain.
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Who's going to be jobby.
[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Who is now free from her captor.
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Genevieve.
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Also a little Lucius Malfoy.
[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait,
[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_01]: who is?
[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Genevieve.
[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait,
[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: that is a good topic.
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Well,
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess Genevieve clearly is Slytherin.
[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_01]: No.
[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But then Sue,
[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_00]: who's Sue?
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Sue.
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_00]: She's the last one we have to identify.
[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like Sue's a little bit like Tommy.
[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I was debating the two.
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_02]: She works really hard.
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So,
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_02]: is Sue.
[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_02]: No,
[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_02]: is Sue Hagrid.
[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Like,
[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_02]: think about it.
[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Like very earthy,
[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_02]: loyal to the soil.
[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I know that's not her phrase,
[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_02]: but like someone that is maybe not the,
[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_02]: the,
[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_02]: the highest level of thinking,
[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_02]: but like someone you can really rely on.
[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I think while we were incorrect about teeny sticking with Rachel from last week,
[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Sue is in her pocket.
[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's actually if Rachel wins is going to be an incredibly key part of her game is like
[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_02]: forging this,
[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_02]: this last minute kind of bond with Sue over the fact that Caroline had gone.
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And so,
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah,
[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that,
[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and Sue,
[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_02]: much like Hagrid was a major part of the storyline early on before kind of fading away towards the end.
[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Beautiful.
[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Well done.
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_02]: it's,
[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_02]: it's so interesting.
[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I,
[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I gotta go out talking with Genevieve here.
[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_02]: by far the most intriguing part of this final five,
[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_02]: which I agree with you,
[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Omer,
[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_02]: no matter what happens next week,
[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I am kind of glad they went with this,
[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_02]: like two hour pushing the final six and final five vote together,
[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_02]: making them hour long episodes because yeah,
[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_02]: even with something like the Rachel,
[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't play while it was so much fun,
[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_02]: that was kind of the only storyline.
[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And so it didn't necessarily need to be dragged out for another half hour.
[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_07]: The most interesting,
[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_07]: is that the only storyline or is that all they showed?
[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Because we had the nullifier in our season that never showed.
[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh,
[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_07]: that's right.
[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_01]: We have 90 minute episodes.
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So whatever should be shown.
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the longest runtime of any season ever,
[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_01]: right?
[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It is.
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Because now that we have four,
[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_01]: as long as our stuff.
[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_02]: No,
[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think.
[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean,
[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I love the 90 minute.
[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_05]: But anyway,
[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_02]: but for the,
[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_02]: the big,
[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_02]: the big intrigue coming out of this final five though was okay.
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve said her idol is fake,
[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_02]: but does that mean it's real?
[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Because then she doesn't want us to vote for us.
[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Sam said the idol was fake,
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_02]: but does that mean that they want us to all put the votes on Genevieve?
[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_02]: So that when the idol is real,
[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_02]: she then plays the idol and therefore is able to take one of us out.
[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously that 40 chess that you do while you are like malnourished to the,
[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_02]: to the nines and like,
[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_02]: negative calories to the billionth power.
[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But Genevieve's,
[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if this is spur of the moment lie or the premeditated lie about how she got the idol clue.
[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And look,
[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_02]: production has certainly done like to my joy,
[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot of weird,
[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_02]: goofy things in the new era.
[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But why on God's green earth would you put an idol clue under a greasy,
[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_02]: cheesy slice of pizza at the sanctuary?
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Would that not be the worst place to put a piece of paper in survivor history?
[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Besides the hole where everybody,
[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_02]: where everybody poops.
[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_07]: That's like this entire season.
[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Teenie keeps saying that she clearly has no idea of like the real pulse of what's going on.
[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_07]: And when Genevieve said that,
[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Teenie's like,
[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_07]: you're lying.
[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_07]: So she didn't buy it.
[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That was bad.
[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_00]: That was,
[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_00]: that was really bad.
[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And Genevieve,
[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_00]: you had,
[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_00]: granted,
[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_00]: it's all rushed.
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You're malnourished.
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I get that,
[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: but you had time to think about what the story would be.
[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what you came up with.
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't have picked up on the grease issue.
[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_01]: To be honest,
[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I probably would have eaten up that eye.
[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Hmm.
[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_01]: No,
[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_07]: I would have thought that it was hard.
[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_07]: You are meant the malnourishment.
[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Because on Australian survivor,
[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: there was a clue in a pizza box.
[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But there was frozen pizza.
[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah,
[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_02]: exactly.
[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So like they,
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_02]: they made sure for the issue.
[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe,
[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what would have been a good alternative.
[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe for me,
[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_02]: this only would have been a scotch better.
[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I would have said that it was lady in the tramp style connected to an end of spaghetti.
[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_02]: When I slurped it up,
[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_02]: there was an aisle clue rolled up sitting at the end there.
[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And I almost ate it.
[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You've already put it in food before.
[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fine.
[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fine.
[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_01]: in the napkin,
[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_01]: easy.
[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It was.
[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It was so funny to me that teeny still quote unquote votes wrong.
[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So like,
[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: cause you see this whole thing where Rachel's like,
[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_00]: look,
[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_00]: you're going to get the blowback.
[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You know,
[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: if like,
[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: if this is accurate,
[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_00]: you're going to get the blowback.
[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And then she votes Sam.
[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But there actually was no reason to split the vote.
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I think they did do that,
[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_01]: but it actually mathematically.
[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess the question is like,
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: did they,
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: because then why the stalling in the voting booth?
[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_02]: There was a just teeny second,
[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_02]: third,
[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: fourth,
[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: fifth guessing themselves.
[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Do we want to split the vote or not?
[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_01]: That it was an intentional split,
[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_01]: but I don't think it made any sense for the numbers wise.
[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Rachel and Sue left out teeny.
[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_00]: That's in my head.
[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's a hundred percent what happened that they decided,
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_00]: look,
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_00]: we're going to vote for Genevieve.
[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_00]: The other two,
[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_00]: like it's either going to be a three.
[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It's either going to be a one,
[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_00]: two,
[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_00]: two vote,
[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_00]: or it'll be a three,
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: two vote.
[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like,
[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_00]: and then I think that they can use that argument against teeny that
[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: like,
[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: look again,
[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: teeny had no idea what was happening.
[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_00]: If teeny ends up making it to the final three,
[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_00]: That was the way that I read this.
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And in that two,
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: two,
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: one,
[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_02]: their,
[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_02]: their,
[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_02]: their,
[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_02]: their two votes would hold through in the tiebreaker,
[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: right?
[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: If they assume that Genevieve and Sam would throw their votes on
[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_02]: teeny instead of Sue.
[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And Sue plays her idol anyway.
[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_02]: So she would even,
[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_02]: if the votes were on her,
[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_02]: she would nullify them.
[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.
[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Those two are guaranteed safe.
[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So to them,
[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_00]: they don't really care all that much.
[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_07]: And do you think that Sue actually told Rachel about her idol and no
[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_07]: one knew,
[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_07]: like the audience didn't know.
[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_07]: And therefore Rachel's like,
[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_07]: we don't have to worry about this because they're not going to be able to
[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_07]: name names on Sue.
[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause she's going to save herself too.
[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_07]: I did like that as well,
[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_02]: that Rachel finds Sue digging at the well furiously and is like,
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_02]: poor baby.
[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Let me,
[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_02]: let me let you down.
[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That was such a tender moment.
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_07]: I felt like Sue's hands were shaking.
[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Like,
[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what else to do.
[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_07]: It's okay.
[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_07]: It's over.
[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_02]: All I know to do is look for idols and make a fire.
[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying one of the two things.
[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a good,
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a good question though.
[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_02]: As to,
[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to remember,
[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_02]: obviously it was a long episode.
[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I think who did tell Rachel,
[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_02]: did she tell her about the idol?
[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't believe on screen.
[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I was more insinuating like behind the scenes.
[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause I told Omer about my amulet well before when it was aired on TV.
[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to remember what was Rachel's reaction when Sue played it.
[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause like there was surprise on Sam's,
[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_02]: face there was surprise on TV space.
[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: So to be fair,
[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_02]: teeny could have been told this days ago and didn't believe it.
[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And now actually does.
[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It really reminded me of was when,
[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Wendell played the idol on Laurel.
[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like,
[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_01]: this is my big move in the game.
[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Laurel say,
[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_01]: but it's like,
[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_01]: she was always,
[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's also,
[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel bad for Sue because like,
[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_02]: you just have Rachel pulling off this Amanda Kimmel esque move of like,
[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_02]: you all thought I was dead in the water,
[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_02]: but I've been,
[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I've been swimming leagues ahead of you at this point.
[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And then Sue's like,
[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and I've got one,
[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_02]: two.
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Does Sue need to do the,
[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_01]: the Andy,
[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_01]: an operation,
[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_01]: operation Hagrid and play the idol on,
[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Genevieve to be like,
[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I did that all on my own,
[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_07]: I did.
[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_07]: At the end of the day,
[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_07]: if you're at the end and the jury's like,
[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_07]: did you really want to see her?
[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Going the way it's going,
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think she's going to win.
[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like she needs something,
[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: but I mean,
[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: that's the,
[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_02]: it's the interesting thing is,
[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and we've talked about this before,
[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Liana,
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_02]: right?
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like,
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I can imagine how tough it is as a survivor player to gauge how dead
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_02]: you're drawing,
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_02]: not only from trying to read other people,
[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_02]: but also like,
[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_02]: just due to the fact that I don't think in this want to be like,
[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_02]: yup.
[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And I've got no chance of winning.
[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a tough reality to come to.
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I would imagine,
[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and maybe when we talk to Sue next week,
[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_02]: she'll,
[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_02]: she'll say otherwise,
[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_02]: but I would imagine unlike Andy,
[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if Sue has necessarily hit a point where she's like,
[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_02]: yup,
[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not looking great in the end here.
[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I think she feels that,
[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_02]: she's got,
[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and there I've seen some cases be made,
[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_02]: not necessarily like a,
[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_02]: she'll win the game over someone like Rachel,
[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_02]: but like certainly a bigger case than maybe we,
[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_02]: we sort of,
[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_02]: tongue in cheek talk about of like,
[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_02]: her being loyal to people.
[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And so they won't feel as burnt by her.
[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_02]: The fact that she did have an idol that only a couple of people knew
[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_02]: about the fact that,
[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_02]: she'll have another big bomb to drop about perhaps her age.
[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_02]: That could be something to at least get a reaction out of people.
[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So I would imagine in her head space right now,
[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_02]: uh,
[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_02]: she is,
[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_02]: is while she's happy to blow smoke into the fire,
[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_02]: she's not willing to blow smoke up anyone's asses at this point and play an idol on Genevieve.
[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Also,
[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_01]: she's just not willing to do some stuff for the million dollars and that's fine.
[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_01]: she wants to play the game that she wants to play.
[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that's just not in her.
[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe her important goals are just doing what she wants.
[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Cartman.
[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_07]: She does seem like she's very much.
[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I know whatever I do what I want.
[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes,
[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_01]: that's exactly right.
[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He hates Kyle.
[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_00]: One,
[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_00]: she,
[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_00]: um,
[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_00]: she explicitly said at the beginning of this episode that she wants to rip Andy's head off his shoulders.
[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe she is interested in murder.
[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I just love the fact that you had to like clarify on Twitter.
[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I've never murdered anybody and I have no plans.
[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that what she said?
[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_02]: She did that during the Kyle montage.
[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: So it was almost like a preemptive of like,
[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_02]: oh no,
[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_02]: what did I say about Andy?
[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh God.
[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I love her toughness though.
[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Like I really do love her grit.
[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_07]: And she is strong.
[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_07]: From the very beginning,
[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_07]: I was like,
[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_07]: this chick has all of it.
[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_07]: She's so strong.
[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_07]: So I give her so much credit for that.
[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_07]: And with her background of owning a flight school,
[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean,
[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think anyone knows that about her from,
[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_07]: did she even acknowledge and say that?
[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think she told people because Tiana didn't know.
[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And there was lady pilot on lady pilot violence this season.
[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Just crazy.
[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_07]: I am.
[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_07]: That would be the shock to the jury.
[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_07]: If she makes it to the final three is like what her background is,
[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_07]: what she's done.
[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_07]: And that might just show some like layers to her of what she manages back at home outside of the game.
[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It also doesn't depend on how open-minded the jury is.
[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Like,
[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like sometimes they go in fully decided on what they're going to do.
[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes they are truly open-minded.
[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like for,
[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_01]: from our experience,
[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_01]: there were some people that were like going to vote the way they were going to vote no matter what.
[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And then other people were even going to give Romeo a chance.
[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So it really just like for us,
[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_01]: we were like,
[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_01]: we need to hear X,
[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Y,
[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and Z from Romeo.
[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And probably just get back out of a pitch as his lawyer the night before.
[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It was pretty good.
[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like,
[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Romeo spent his whole career building other people up.
[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what he had to do in this game to fall into the background.
[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And,
[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and I was like,
[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_01]: like if he,
[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_01]: if he can like hold that off and the other two kind of mess up,
[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_01]: like King Romeo.
[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Not going to lie.
[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I think one of the reasons why,
[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_02]: listen,
[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Ponderosa and your season is a touch subject,
[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_02]: but I think that,
[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_02]: uh,
[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe one of the reasons why we needed it was to see lawyer.
[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Roxroy is a version of this man that I didn't think I needed to see until you described him right now.
[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That sounds incredible.
[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe if we had a lawyer,
[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Sue lawyer for Sue,
[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_01]: we would get something similar.
[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited.
[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_02]: well,
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_02]: see,
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I would,
[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I would say Gabe,
[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I would say Caroline,
[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_02]: but Caroline is kind of the world's lawyer.
[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Like she's more of a,
[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_02]: uh,
[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_02]: like a public defender and that she'll be like,
[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_02]: give me your tired.
[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,
[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_02]: she's the statue of Liberty being like,
[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: everybody's great.
[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You all did a fantastic job.
[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_02]: If I can spend a million dollars three ways,
[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_02]: we could.
[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: She looks like Laurel from the challenge,
[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_01]: but she's like the opposite.
[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It does.
[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_00]: She does look like Laurel from the challenge.
[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_01]: She's like Laurel's horcrux where it's like,
[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_02]: she represents all the goodwill that was taken out of Laurel to become the competitor that she was.
[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Um,
[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I did briefly go back to look at the reaction when,
[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Sue plays her idol.
[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's very difficult to tell.
[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Rachel essentially looks at the jury.
[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh,
[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Rachel kind of like smiles and looks at the jury to gauge the jury's reaction.
[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Genevieve is smiling at Sue.
[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Sam looks just depressed and teeny is not in the shot.
[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's fun because every time an idol gets played,
[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Sam is just,
[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Sam was so downtrodden when Rachel played that idol.
[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He thought it was him dead to right.
[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe he just blanket assumes like,
[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh no,
[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_02]: now,
[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_02]: now this is final destination.
[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Now it's me this time.
[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Finally.
[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait,
[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_01]: what was your reaction?
[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay,
[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_01]: when Romeo played the fake one?
[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean,
[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_07]: we all were like,
[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_07]: it's not real.
[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_07]: There's no way that's real.
[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_07]: You've been the backup vote this whole time and you never played it.
[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Come on.
[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_07]: So it was more like,
[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_07]: I gave him credit for it,
[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_07]: but I think we were all,
[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_07]: cause like,
[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_07]: you're not supposed to show any reactions on the jury.
[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_07]: So I think everyone had to really hold it in of.
[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_07]: You were still in the game.
[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_07]: No,
[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_07]: we played it.
[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Didn't he play it?
[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_01]: When you were going home.
[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_07]: That was my vote.
[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_05]: But like,
[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I saw that from so far away as if I was.
[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You were already.
[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I was on the jury.
[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_02]: That's how they were treating you.
[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Jonathan and Mike treated you like a juror already.
[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's why you were already coming.
[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_02]: No,
[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I do remember when he did that.
[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause I'm thinking like,
[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh,
[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_07]: that was so annoying.
[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Like I was so just more annoyed of myself going home that I'm like,
[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_07]: look at the charade.
[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Can you track then what's everyone's reaction to when Genevieve like kind of
[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_02]: meekly holds it up?
[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I told you it was a fake.
[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You try to play it just for the ultimate dramatics.
[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you go as far as you can.
[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You stand up,
[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_01]: you give it to death and then you turn around and throw it in the fire.
[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And you're like,
[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_02]: you know what Jeff,
[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to do this for you.
[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's sort of like when Rome got to,
[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_02]: sit in Jeff seat,
[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_02]: like I've always wanted to throw a fake title into the fire.
[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Jeff,
[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_02]: can I do it?
[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_01]: She had all of lockdown to think of that.
[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_02]: What do we think about Genevieve?
[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Because again,
[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I do feel like now listen,
[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_02]: whether it be from a vocal perspective,
[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_02]: a mannerisms perspective,
[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_02]: she's earned comparisons to Parvati,
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_02]: to Kim.
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_02]: But again,
[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_02]: like I can't help but think about how her emotional trajectory seems to be
[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: the exact opposite of a lot of people where they come in being like,
[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God,
[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_02]: God,
[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_02]: it sucks so much just to kill people's dreams.
[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And then by then you're like,
[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_02]: ah,
[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_02]: yes,
[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_02]: burn,
[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_02]: burn.
[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve is the exact opposite where she's like,
[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh no,
[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't made any friends.
[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_02]: this is terrible.
[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And then like hugs on the way out.
[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It is such an interesting trajectory compared to,
[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_02]: especially in the new era,
[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot of the other people around her.
[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess Lindsay's the Genevieve whisperer.
[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?
[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean,
[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_07]: but this is where I feel like we're kind of the opposite.
[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause I felt like I really was trying to make really strong personal bonds
[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_07]: and connections the whole time.
[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_07]: And that was a little bit made it like,
[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_07]: like I understood her difficulty.
[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause that was a difficulty I had,
[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_07]: which was to my demise.
[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Wow.
[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_07]: She,
[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_07]: that might've been difficult for her too.
[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_07]: So she was proactive to avoid that scenario while I didn't.
[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Um,
[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_07]: so I do think that's a little bit different.
[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_07]: And,
[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_07]: but at the same time,
[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_07]: like,
[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh,
[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_07]: you're taking away an entire third of what you need to be,
[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_07]: to be sole survivor,
[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_07]: which is like having that social aspect.
[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_07]: So we're moving that now you're just strategic and challenge threat
[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_07]: without having that third.
[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_07]: So,
[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_07]: uh,
[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_07]: I just feel like that's already just removing a whole third of your game to
[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_07]: show all the umph that you can have.
[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_07]: And I wish that she harnessed that earlier because I feel like that would
[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_07]: have totally changed her game where she already was a very high threat that
[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_07]: I think could have made it really well and possibly win.
[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_07]: That's the one issue that maybe would be the reason against her.
[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Let's say if her and Rachel were at the final two,
[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_07]: I'd put my game on Rachel over her for that social reason.
[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_07]: But if she figured that out early,
[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_07]: like how Gabler figured out his issue early on in the game and then
[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_07]: resolved it,
[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_07]: I think she's a powerhouse winner.
[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that Genevieve is one of the most unique characters.
[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_01]: They've ever had on the show.
[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And I've heard these comparisons to poverty,
[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_01]: to Kim Spradlin.
[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I think early on,
[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw the Kim a little bit more than poverty.
[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I never really have seen the poverty comparison.
[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a very much a,
[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_01]: uh,
[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_01]: vocal timbre thing.
[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even see,
[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even hear that,
[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_01]: but nevertheless,
[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like she,
[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_01]: it's,
[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_01]: it's rare to go eight,
[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_01]: almost 800 people have played this game now to find somebody that is so
[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_01]: uniquely different than almost everybody else that's played in her journey.
[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so different that I think it is,
[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_01]: doing Canada proud.
[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_01]: She did,
[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_01]: the Prairie provinces,
[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_01]: uh,
[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_01]: she illuminated the,
[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_01]: the Prairie.
[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's great.
[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like she,
[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_01]: she,
[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_01]: what was I going to say?
[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I've loved,
[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I really liked actually the way they started her story,
[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_01]: which was a nothing burger.
[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But then all of a sudden come out of nowhere and be like this dragon.
[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I,
[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I like kind of liked that.
[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause it didn't go on too long.
[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't like a Natalie Bolton.
[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That was the whole season.
[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_01]: it was just a little bit at the beginning.
[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And then we were really surprised as rare that we,
[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_01]: as an audience are very surprised.
[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I liked,
[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like I was always constantly surprised by Genevieve and the game she
[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_01]: was playing in the edit.
[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_01]: She received to where I think she was one of the most enjoyable people of
[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_01]: the whole season.
[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_02]: This is go at Liana.
[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see her back.
[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like,
[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see what a Genevieve 2.0 looks like.
[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I can understand also though,
[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_00]: how people feel like narratively,
[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_00]: perhaps her story is done.
[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that.
[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_00]: She got a lot out of the season.
[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_00]: She lasted till final five.
[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I could see that,
[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_00]: but on the other hand,
[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_00]: giving her a chance to kind of go back,
[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_00]: reflect,
[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_00]: think about how she played the season.
[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_00]: How does someone,
[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_00]: because I think she seems like someone who would be able to change and
[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_00]: really be able to alter the way that she plays her next time out
[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_00]: there,
[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_00]: which is why I would like to see her back.
[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what,
[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what she communicated with me.
[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_02]: If I asked her like between Genevieve,
[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_02]: the player and Genevieve,
[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_02]: the person,
[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_02]: who are you bringing to a second time out?
[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And she basically said like,
[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_02]: okay,
[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_02]: now I realize that,
[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I can hurt people's feelings a bit and that I can also bring them.
[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And basically like the kind of final resting place.
[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_02]: She got to buy the time she reached her final resting place.
[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It was just more so like,
[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_02]: but the time she had done that,
[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_02]: she had already kind of burned so many bridges with so many people that she
[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_02]: couldn't really work on those relationships.
[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_02]: This time she would be able to,
[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I think come in with,
[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah,
[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I can blindside people,
[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_02]: but also I'm not afraid to build bonds and hurt people's feelings too,
[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_02]: because it is a game at the end of the day.
[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think,
[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I will say that I did relate to Genevieve's journey in one way.
[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just that it happened more off camera because the thing is she's
[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_01]: blindsiding people and they are telling her to her face,
[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_01]: like in the moment that really hurt.
[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And then that really affected her and question everything she was doing.
[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of doing that,
[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_01]: but I didn't really get that until after I was voted out.
[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I was like,
[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_01]: regret everything I did.
[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So then that is like,
[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I understand that kind of mentality.
[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just that she had it during the game,
[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_01]: which I think would have been a much bigger mind F than having it after
[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_01]: you've already played,
[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_01]: you know?
[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,
[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and early with Keyshawn,
[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_00]: the ghost of Keyshawn constantly.
[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_02]: These poltergeists,
[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Keyshawn.
[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just showing up being like Genevieve.
[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Look what you did to me.
[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It's,
[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_02]: it's so interesting.
[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause like what almost would Genevieve's arc to me to your point,
[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Omer,
[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_02]: it's almost scripted to me.
[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it reminds me of a Tony Soprano esque antihero where they start off
[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and you're like,
[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_02]: wow,
[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_02]: you're like,
[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_02]: you're doing a lot of bad things.
[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like,
[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_02]: but there's more in there,
[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_02]: they're not necessarily,
[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_02]: they're doing it for good reasons or they have regrets and psychological
[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_02]: complexities around what they're doing.
[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And we're,
[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe by the end of the series,
[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_02]: they don't want to be a mobster anymore.
[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,
[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_02]: they don't want to do those types of things.
[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And so to watch Genevieve's arc,
[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Liana does feel fairly complete for this season,
[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_02]: but would be really interested to see how like her general digestion of
[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_02]: survivor as a game,
[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_02]: which was as graphic as it is,
[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of a reverse digestion of how a lot of players typically go through
[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_02]: this game,
[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_02]: how she would,
[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_02]: what really?
[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Well,
[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_02]: they can push stuff backwards a little bit.
[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Talk about defying gravity.
[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh,
[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_02]: space for that.
[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_07]: I was thinking in general too,
[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_07]: like if we're going to expand this to any player,
[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_07]: that's going to go back to season 50 or just in general,
[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_07]: like any returning player,
[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_07]: I,
[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_07]: it makes,
[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_07]: it makes me think like,
[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_07]: as we're talking of like,
[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_07]: okay,
[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_07]: like if I was Genevieve,
[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_07]: like how I would play differently.
[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_07]: And I think the other layer of what I would say would help her feel
[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_07]: confident in changing the way she plays is also the aftermath.
[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Like now the game is over.
[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_07]: You've spoken to all of your cast mates.
[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_07]: You see who's so pissed off,
[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_07]: who isn't and being like,
[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_07]: okay,
[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_07]: as much as that would have sung in the moment,
[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_07]: everyone got over it or they didn't.
[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_07]: And that also kind of helps you not put as much weight to hurting
[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_07]: people's feelings when you go back in and play.
[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_07]: But alternatively,
[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_07]: I think it also goes to whatever PTSD each player has had when they
[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_07]: left the first time that might be haunting them the second time they
[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_07]: play.
[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause I could see the opposite for a player.
[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_07]: However,
[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_07]: their backlash was with their cast mates and then getting kind of more
[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_07]: emotionally sucked in the second round.
[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_07]: So there's just so many complexities to any returning players.
[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's so fascinating and an entirely different realm of playing
[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_07]: than walking onto the beach with no one knowing anything about you and
[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_07]: your gameplay.
[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_07]: So I think no matter who would go back,
[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_07]: there's a chance of complexity of different gameplay based off of their
[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_07]: past experience.
[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Well,
[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_02]: the good news is Genevieve's already been haunted,
[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_02]: right?
[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_02]: She already has that,
[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_02]: that experience with Keyshawn spirit.
[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like,
[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_02]: great.
[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_02]: My past has already been living rent free in my head.
[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: This is just how I've lived the past week in the game.
[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it seems like Lindsay's light got brighter.
[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the poltergeist likes what she's saying.
[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And when it doesn't like what she's saying,
[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_01]: it goes dim.
[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we should track.
[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Is the poltergeist a casual?
[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Casual?
[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that what you said?
[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You cut it right there.
[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like,
[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_02]: uh,
[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_02]: what's the poltergeist think about Saul?
[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Does the poltergeist like Saul?
[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It just dimmed a little bit.
[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it a Saul turner?
[00:56:45] All right.
[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,
[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_02]: let's,
[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_02]: let's get into on that very stupid transition into some of our
[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_02]: preseason predictions on these two boots because they were
[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_02]: big ones,
[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_02]: big characters,
[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_02]: big players.
[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But did we assume that would be the case preseason?
[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's start with baby Andy.
[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Should I judge Andy and she judges Genevieve's?
[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that'd be fun.
[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do that.
[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do that.
[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Liana.
[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,
[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_00]: this might not matter,
[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_00]: but all right.
[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So I had Andy,
[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_00]: as technically pre jury,
[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_00]: but the fake merge boot.
[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So I said that Andy had shot out of a cannon energy.
[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_00]: As soon as his feet hit the beach,
[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_00]: unfortunately his enthusiasm and obsessive personality rubbed his
[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_00]: tribe mates the wrong way,
[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_00]: leading to him being alienated from the tribe.
[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_00]: However,
[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_00]: once he settles into a flow,
[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_00]: his charm and disarm strategy coupled with his challenge strength,
[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_00]: get him back into the good graces of the tribe.
[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Come the fake merge slash mergeatory.
[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Andy runs the numbers on his temporary group dynamics and realizes he's in
[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_00]: trouble.
[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_00]: No amount of grip strength could save him from getting his torch snuffed.
[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I said that his ally would be Asia for a hot sec.
[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Come fake merge.
[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And his enemy was overthinking.
[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Liana.
[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Not to put the cart before the horse.
[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Um,
[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I am sorry.
[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh,
[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I had Andy making the jury.
[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_02]: we'll start off a little cold here.
[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Andy's intense,
[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_02]: intense challenge prep pays off in spades,
[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_02]: making him one of the MVPs of Gata early on.
[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh,
[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe he was an MVP of challenges,
[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_02]: but in a different way.
[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Despite his obvious eagerness to finally be on the show,
[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Andy is able to practice restraint when it comes to idols and advantages.
[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_02]: He very explicitly doesn't volunteer for journeys and go on hunts,
[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_02]: instead turning others on those who do so.
[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_02]: When Andy sees some new faces outside of Gata,
[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_02]: his game takes off.
[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_02]: He's finally able to connect with Asia,
[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_02]: immediately jumping over to Lavo to leave his former tribe members behind.
[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Things get complicated though,
[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_02]: with the tumultuousness of the post merge,
[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_02]: trying to mimic that Ferris like game.
[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Andy will play as a round by round free agent,
[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_02]: choosing who to go with based on what's best for his AI like algorithm that round
[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_02]: parentheses.
[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And there will be plenty of confessionals about that.
[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately for Andy,
[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_02]: his fate in the game and similar to how it did for the new era player.
[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_02]: He wants to mimic the most.
[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Homer at the final six,
[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Asia and teeny realize Andy has been in the know,
[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_02]: for pretty much the entire post merge,
[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_02]: making him a huge threat.
[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_02]: So when teeny plays an idol,
[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_02]: they decide to break their promised RHAP final three,
[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_02]: sending Andy out of the game by the thing he was said was the most overrated in
[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_02]: survivor history,
[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_02]: the hidden immunity idol.
[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_02]: His closest allies were Rachel,
[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Sam and Asia.
[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And his enemy was foreshadowing.
[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_01]: In many ways,
[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_01]: you both,
[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_01]: you both have the enemy exactly.
[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Andy is looking forward to the final three.
[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's making his case foreshadowing.
[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Not the best thing to do for Rachie.
[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And then,
[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_01]: overthinking.
[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we've seen that,
[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_01]: so very good,
[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_01]: but ultimately it was the bloom that will get the point.
[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she,
[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_01]: mommy knew she.
[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_02]: That's why I tried to do some journey management and apologize to Liana.
[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_00]: No,
[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_00]: no,
[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_00]: no,
[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_00]: My predictions have been,
[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: have been off.
[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Mike and I were in lockstep for a while.
[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And then somehow we just started to completely,
[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,
[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_02]: we're really like Rachel and Andy.
[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_02]: We're like at the merge.
[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It just,
[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_02]: we just kind of deviated and never came back together.
[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,
[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_02]: that being said,
[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to,
[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give you,
[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I think this one's going to be a bit of a freebie here.
[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Not to put the ball in Lindsay's court too much.
[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_02]: This was,
[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh no.
[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: This might be bad across the board.
[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_02]: We might actually make her job harder than we thought because,
[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_02]: unfortunately I did have Genevieve going out pre jury.
[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh,
[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I said,
[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_02]: despite Genevieve self-admitted lack of outdoorsyness,
[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_02]: she'll get a few noticeable reactions and confessionals as she stands back and
[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_02]: which is how seemingly adept the other Lavos are around camp.
[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: When Genevieve sees Rome out looking for idols,
[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_02]: she'll trail him intending to either catch him in the act or try to enact her
[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: pre-season plan of sabotaging the beware advantage challenges.
[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_02]: This sketchy activity though,
[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_02]: brands her as a danger to the majority Alliance.
[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,
[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_02]: definitely seen as the outcast of Lavo,
[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Asia and teeny bring her in on a women's Alliance on the side,
[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's able to keep her safe when she's presumed dead in the water at her
[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_02]: first tribal council.
[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh,
[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: but she is deemed more reliable than Keyshawn.
[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_02]: The Baldur's gate aficionado,
[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_02]: however,
[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_02]: is not able to level her game up when the swap hits left on a tribe with Asia.
[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve feels confident enough to begin to make cross tribal connections,
[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_02]: spilling the secrets of what happened the first week on the Island.
[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_02]: One of Asia's biggest assets becomes a liability.
[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So she disbars her own personal lawyer by blindsiding her at their next
[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_02]: tribal council.
[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve will have one of the most low key oddest edits during her handful
[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_02]: of episodes on the show.
[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course,
[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_02]: she is branded an internet darling and a must return contestant for season
[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_02]: 50.
[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,
[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_02]: it wasn't that.
[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.
[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Her closest,
[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_02]: her closest allies were Asia and teeny and her enemy was herself.
[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_00]: This is like my,
[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: like Mike has a pair of threes,
[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_00]: but I have a pair of twos.
[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's how it feels right now.
[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So let me read mine.
[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I also had Genevieve free jury,
[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: which by the way,
[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: very happy to be wrong on that.
[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Very much so.
[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I hope to see her play more.
[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So Genevieve formed a tight bond with Keyshawn.
[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_00]: As soon as their feet hit the beach,
[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: but failed to form any tight emotional bonds with the rest of the tribe.
[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: This left her and Keyshawn on the outs when Lavo goes to their first tribal council.
[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So this is what we're talking about with Lian and I were in lockstep as to how Lava would
[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: be initially.
[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Being the savvy corporate lawyer,
[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: she is Genevieve recognized her position and decided to roll the dice on her shot in
[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_00]: the dark.
[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Despite all her practice playing Baldur's Gate three before coming out to play survivor,
[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_00]: the role doesn't hit.
[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And Genevieve is sent on the prejury trip.
[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Her ally was Keyshawn and her enemy was the shot in the dark.
[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_02]: she did say at one point,
[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_02]: remember when she gave up the shot in the dark and she's like,
[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_02]: now that I've eaten the rice,
[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd rather have my shot in the dark back.
[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: So Lindsay,
[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_02]: as Liana said,
[01:03:09] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a,
[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a definitely a tough to pick a winning hand here amongst the,
[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: the low draw that Liana and I both had,
[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_02]: but the choice is yours.
[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean,
[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_07]: both of you definitely hit something that was obviously what happened.
[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_07]: And then the rest obviously went a different direction,
[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_07]: but Mike,
[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_07]: I will give that one to you given all the other things that you explained,
[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_07]: but Liana,
[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean,
[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_07]: in the very beginning,
[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_07]: you really nailed it.
[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll take that.
[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll take my very first second prediction.
[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty much the Genevieve story of like in the beginning,
[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_02]: you were killing it.
[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You were nailing it.
[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And then like,
[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_02]: at a certain point it hits the fan,
[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_00]: but even like Mike,
[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: you nailed the weird edit,
[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: right?
[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I would say the,
[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_00]: the her being absent for the first four episodes and then coming in is
[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_00]: this dragon like character.
[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that that,
[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: that totally fits,
[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: but that's a weird edit to me.
[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll,
[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_02]: we'll talk about this more next week.
[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Remember you and I did the,
[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_02]: the preseason superlatives.
[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And I do remember saying that,
[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_02]: most likely to have a purple edit,
[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought was going to be Genevieve.
[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And I,
[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought I'd be on the money.
[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah,
[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: exactly.
[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Like,
[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_02]: well,
[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_02]: it's interesting,
[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Lindsay,
[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: again,
[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: another comparison between the two of you is I feel like there was so
[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_02]: much discourse in season 42 of like,
[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: who's Lindsay,
[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: where's Lindsay.
[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And that obviously wasn't the case by the time you were both voted
[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_02]: out in fifth place.
[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_07]: It's interesting.
[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_07]: That's why like after my season and knowing my story and then
[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_07]: watching,
[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_07]: I have such a different perspective of having such a strong judgment of
[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_07]: each player.
[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause I'm like,
[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_07]: there's a lot that probably didn't show us.
[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_07]: So I know that they're trying to lead a certain agenda and storyline,
[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_07]: but who really knows who's really working a lot of the stuff.
[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause you have to fit in everyone's story.
[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_07]: So it's interesting.
[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I will say that.
[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that that is much better in the 90 minute situation than it was.
[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I think in the 60 minutes,
[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_01]: it was so easy to bury people that were very important.
[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the first eight episodes or seven episodes really did not showcase
[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay at all,
[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_01]: but she was like a very big part of what was going on.
[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And that was very odd to see.
[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But then obviously it finished very strong,
[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: you know?
[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Well,
[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_07]: thanks.
[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_07]: But yeah,
[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_07]: that's part of the reason why I'm a little bit personally offended that
[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_07]: we didn't get 90 minutes.
[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause I'm like,
[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_05]: there's so much more to tell.
[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I was there.
[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Do the recut.
[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah,
[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: exactly.
[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Except on the final six episodes.
[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So you really need to stop.
[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You need Snyder bro-esque fans of season 42 to like really put in the
[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: petition to Jeff of,
[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_02]: okay,
[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_02]: re-release this season with,
[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_02]: with the way it should in 90 minutes.
[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_07]: We'll bring back a lot of people from season 42 to returning season.
[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Since there's a lot that you didn't see in players.
[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_07]: I think there's a lot to say of complexity that no one knew.
[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Casey,
[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_07]: no one.
[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_07]: And the poltergeist is as bright as ever.
[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Lighting up the room.
[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,
[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I think when the poltergeist heard that Jonathan has a chance of
[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_02]: returning the casual,
[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_02]: they are like,
[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_02]: great.
[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay,
[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_02]: sure.
[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,
[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_02]: we are going to finish,
[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_02]: although we are far from done here,
[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_02]: but hopefully as strong as Lindsay's edit was with a game that started
[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_02]: coming about actually in these 90 minute episodes.
[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Omer,
[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: you have brought this game in.
[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_02]: It has been a fantastic staple.
[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey,
[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: we did it for 44.
[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_02]: You monster.
[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: We did.
[01:06:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't remember that.
[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: you know what?
[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I do.
[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I know.
[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Actually,
[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we did it for 43 as well.
[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Now that I think.
[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,
[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_01]: yes,
[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_01]: but I wasn't on for 43.
[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I gave you the info and then you did it.
[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So now that you've been able to lend your voice to it,
[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_02]: we're excited for you to continue to do so.
[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_02]: As per usual,
[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: you have done,
[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_02]: speaking of,
[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: your own Spradlin as comparisons,
[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_02]: your own animal analysis for the cast of survivor 47.
[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And with that,
[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I will officially hand off control to you,
[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: sir.
[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Wonderful.
[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So this game is matching each of these 18,
[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: all of them castaways with their most.
[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: like a like animal.
[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes that's looks.
[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes that's personality.
[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it's gameplay and it's often a combination of all three.
[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So a fun little wrinkle for this one is if you're trying to guess,
[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: you could also just for funsies,
[01:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: ask me,
[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: one question easily,
[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: like,
[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: uh,
[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: how much does this person look like their animal?
[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll give you like,
[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: uh,
[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: an answer,
[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: but it's very subjective.
[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So you can get thrown off.
[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So I like it.
[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_01]: We will give an example or we'll go through the first one.
[01:07:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be easy.
[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_01]: we'll take turns on who goes first.
[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to start with Mike because Mike told me beforehand.
[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: He thinks that he should go first as,
[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_01]: the only man here.
[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what he told me.
[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[01:07:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Classic Mike.
[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: That was my lawyer,
[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Rox Roy,
[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_01]: who was representing me.
[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But in reality,
[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going in the order that you were on screen.
[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: but you'll take turns going first.
[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You have an opportunity to win three points.
[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: However,
[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: if you see the animal,
[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: you have no idea what it is.
[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You want to hint.
[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You can sacrifice a point to go for two points.
[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And then if you don't get it right,
[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: we will go for the steel.
[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: we will go through all 18.
[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And at some point we're going to reverse.
[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh,
[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_01]: we're going to turn back time,
[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: bring it back that classic twist and show you the person.
[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And you have to guess the animal.
[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: now to give you,
[01:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: do you guys all remember the animals I have given you in the past?
[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I remember.
[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Red tail hawk.
[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah,
[01:08:10] [SPEAKER_01]: that's fucking right.
[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I was a,
[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I was a mirror meerkat.
[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So Mike.
[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember on the island.
[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry,
[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: on the island.
[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh,
[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_07]: I think I was Australian shepherd.
[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: No,
[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: absolutely not.
[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I would never give you a dog.
[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You know how I feel about dogs.
[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I,
[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_01]: okay.
[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So yes.
[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Also as a disclaimer,
[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: before we get into the actual castaways,
[01:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: if you don't like your animal,
[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: that's not my problem.
[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I like all of these animals.
[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't appreciate them for what they are,
[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_01]: then you may be misunderstand them.
[01:08:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I am sorry to say,
[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[01:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't give anybody like an English bulldog,
[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: which I don't really like.
[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So until I do,
[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to hear it.
[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe you should look into your animal further and see the light inside it that you do not.
[01:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: How about that?
[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So Lindsay was the ant,
[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_01]: but that was because I think it's often underrated.
[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: The ant is actually one of the hardest working animals in the animal kingdom.
[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: They actually focus a lot more on the colony than their own individual interests because they're collaborative and a team player.
[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And they work hard as hell.
[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Now,
[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: of course,
[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I chose the ant from the animation rather than a,
[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: a real life picture.
[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's that's that's princess Anna played by Julia Louis-Dreyfus in the hit movie,
[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_02]: a bug's life from 1998 movie,
[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_01]: by the way.
[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: but also I was like,
[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: but Lindsay's so cool.
[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Does she really get an insect?
[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So I did also give her a backup animal,
[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: which is the Thompson's gazelle,
[01:09:35] [SPEAKER_01]: because extremely athletic lives in large groups,
[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_01]: plays for the herd.
[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And the athleticism on a Thompson's gazelle is unmatched.
[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So that is Lindsay.
[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_02]: We're also coming up,
[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_02]: by the way,
[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_02]: on that,
[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_02]: on the 15 year anniversary of when that photo was taken.
[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So old.
[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: This is your rolling days,
[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Mike.
[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm 20 years old.
[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: little baby,
[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Mike.
[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's,
[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Liana and her micro pipette again.
[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Pooja.
[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello.
[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: These are the animals.
[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_01]: We will be talking about this time.
[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: There are 18 correct answers here and 60 coins.
[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_01]: We have the aardvark,
[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: the aardwolf,
[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_01]: bush,
[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: baby,
[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Cape buffalo,
[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_01]: cormorant,
[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_01]: clouded leopard,
[01:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: duck,
[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: et cetera,
[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: et cetera.
[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch the video.
[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_01]: we will go through these one by one and we will see.
[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So the first one,
[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Mike for you is the saddle bill store.
[01:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at this little cutie with his little eyes.
[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_02]: That is wild.
[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Imagine if your mouth was like 15 times,
[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_02]: the length of your head.
[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?
[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: For all those people out there being like,
[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: why a saddle bill store?
[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: What about a marabou stork or the European stork,
[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: which brings the babies allegedly.
[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_02]: As many people are responding to.
[01:10:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So many people.
[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Well,
[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_01]: they can go fuck themselves because this person is a saddle bill
[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_01]: stork and not all of those other ones.
[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So just to be clear.
[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,
[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_02]: for the,
[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_02]: uh,
[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_02]: the sake of displaying the full mechanics of the game,
[01:11:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I will forego the outright guess to get a hint about the qualities of
[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_02]: the saddle.
[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So Mike is sacrificing three points to go for two points.
[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: This saddle bill stork,
[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_01]: very stealthy in their hunt.
[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They're very smart,
[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: much more than you think as a social species.
[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_01]: They have much more intelligence than you would think.
[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're very tall.
[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So I,
[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_02]: this will not be my final answer.
[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Like,
[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: let me talk it through a little bit.
[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_02]: My first answer would be Genevieve because she is tall.
[01:11:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think up until the point where her game got blown up,
[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_02]: there was a lot of idea about her being very stealthy.
[01:11:39] [SPEAKER_02]: My other one might be Saul because Saul is someone that was also pretty
[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_02]: under the radar,
[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_02]: obviously was able to find the advantage anonymously and play it on
[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Rachel.
[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So I am going to go with and smart as well.
[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really between those two.
[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I will go Occam's razor here and say Genevieve.
[01:12:00] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Well,
[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_01]: very good guesses.
[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael bloom,
[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael Scott bloom.
[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_01]: People,
[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_01]: what people don't realize from the show is that shall,
[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: shall is a short King.
[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:12:12] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:12:12] [SPEAKER_01]: not as tall as he looks on the show.
[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_01]: However,
[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_01]: still,
[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_01]: he's not short,
[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: but you know what I mean?
[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not tall as you think it is Genevieve.
[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael bloom.
[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: We're off to a good start.
[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't even remember who won last time,
[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_01]: but Liana,
[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_01]: it's your turn.
[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[01:12:29] [SPEAKER_01]: With the golden.
[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at those little paws,
[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: you know?
[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I would also like the hint,
[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: please.
[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Coward.
[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Fun,
[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_01]: a meme,
[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_01]: short lived.
[01:12:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: come on.
[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I live two years on average and sometimes less,
[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: sometimes a little bit more,
[01:12:51] [SPEAKER_01]: usually die of heart disease or cancer.
[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_01]: This is like the Jalinski of rodents.
[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,
[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to,
[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: my,
[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: like,
[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to go with my gut.
[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: My initial gut was John Lovett.
[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Like before the hint?
[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_00]: No.
[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: After the hint.
[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You're correct.
[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Last time it was a while before you guys even got.
[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: We've come around to it.
[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: We've gotten adjusted now.
[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: This one is one where the look also strongly matches the person.
[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you see those beady little hamster eyes?
[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:13:27] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay,
[01:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: a clouded leopard.
[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_07]: So I already had an idea of what I might want to do for this,
[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_07]: but for the sake of not wanting to really lose points,
[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_07]: I'll sacrifice a point and get a clue.
[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Somehow helps me.
[01:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay gets four descriptors.
[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Tactical,
[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: versatile,
[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: determined,
[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_01]: warm.
[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh.
[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Hmm.
[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_07]: So I have.
[01:13:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Huh?
[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_07]: So.
[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_07]: The warm,
[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_07]: it makes me start to thank Caroline.
[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Um,
[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_07]: cause I do think that she was underestimated in her edit that she
[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_07]: definitely had a lot.
[01:14:05] [SPEAKER_07]: And she might've been able to be seen.
[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Um,
[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_07]: let me just.
[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Ooh.
[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Or do I want to go with Sierra.
[01:14:18] [SPEAKER_07]: On this.
[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Hmm.
[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to go with Caroline.
[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Sorry.
[01:14:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Is wrong.
[01:14:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Mike for the steel.
[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Tactical,
[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_02]: versatile,
[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_02]: determined,
[01:14:37] [SPEAKER_02]: warm.
[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Now,
[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_02]: like with the latter three,
[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I would think Kyle,
[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_02]: but I think that Kyle wasn't necessarily personified as the most
[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: tactical.
[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't scroll up on my list.
[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_07]: I know who it is.
[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Just take the wind.
[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_07]: I already know.
[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I gave it to you.
[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Is it versatile?
[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.
[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I will go with,
[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean like,
[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: ah,
[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: see.
[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh man.
[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I almost want to bounce it back to Lindsay and give her,
[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I might like see my time to Lindsay to give her a second chance.
[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Give it to me.
[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead.
[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Do it.
[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Guess again.
[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Is it Rachel?
[01:15:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It is Rachel.
[01:15:19] [SPEAKER_07]: I had my list of people and I already had three people scroll down.
[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_07]: So when I was.
[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Was that Michael Bloom giving Lindsay?
[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Or was that you giving it back to Lindsay?
[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause that's against the rules.
[01:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the,
[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm,
[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Sam being like,
[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: my stomach is full of points right now.
[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Lindsay,
[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_02]: you do.
[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll give her the one unless Liana objects.
[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if Liana supports other women.
[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess we're finding,
[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: finding out right now.
[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_00]: One point for this.
[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Of course Lindsay can have the point.
[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I actually,
[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah,
[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I,
[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I had no idea.
[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm happy.
[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Someone got Rachel Lamont clouded leopard in the forest being all sneaky.
[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't really know.
[01:16:03] [SPEAKER_01]: She can play different types of games.
[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: She can be on the major Alliance.
[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_01]: She can be on the underdog,
[01:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: but she always has that goal in mind and her social game is very strong.
[01:16:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So she's a warm player.
[01:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And some people have even claimed if she wins is going to be the best winner of all time of any franchise.
[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So there we go.
[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The Emerald tree boa.
[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We are back to Michael Scott.
[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,
[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: we know that one player did outright call himself a slithering snake,
[01:16:31] [SPEAKER_02]: but I am going to hear the qualities of this particular snake to see if it differentiates.
[01:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause there's many different types of snakes.
[01:16:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Mike patient,
[01:16:41] [SPEAKER_01]: precise and strategic.
[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Patient is the very interesting.
[01:16:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Word to use here.
[01:16:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause again,
[01:16:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that while Andy was precise in the move that he made,
[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_02]: there's so many quotes about how messy he is,
[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_02]: how sloppy he is.
[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if that,
[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: if that ends up getting linked up to this.
[01:17:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I will go with Caroline.
[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause I think Caroline is somebody who was patient about turning on Gabe until a certain time.
[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Again,
[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_02]: very precise with her maneuvers and obviously one of the bigger strategic people in the end game.
[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw a face from Liana.
[01:17:16] [SPEAKER_01]: What were you thinking?
[01:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: That was the first name that popped into my head.
[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So if Mike guessed.
[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at these two peas in a pod.
[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a,
[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_01]: that's another two points for Michael.
[01:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: yes.
[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_01]: If you look at this snake,
[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: it just sits in the tree like that coiled up waiting for its prey.
[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't need to go chase it down.
[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: and when it strikes,
[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: it strikes hard and it gets its food.
[01:17:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's that,
[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: there's what it is.
[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Liana,
[01:17:42] [SPEAKER_01]: the Cape Buffalo.
[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh,
[01:17:44] [SPEAKER_00]: look how cute.
[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I will.
[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,
[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I,
[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I got it.
[01:17:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to just guess outright,
[01:17:52] [SPEAKER_00]: but I think I need to take the clues.
[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Assertive,
[01:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: deliberate can be goofy.
[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So the context behind that is many people see the Cape Buffalo.
[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_01]: They hear all the legends.
[01:18:03] [SPEAKER_01]: This is one of the big five,
[01:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I believe.
[01:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And it is known as possibly the most dangerous animal in all of Africa
[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: because it kills a lot of people.
[01:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And you wouldn't expect that from a Buffalo,
[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: but very aggressive.
[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: However,
[01:18:17] [SPEAKER_01]: if you hand raised them,
[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I've met a few hand raised Cape Buffalo and they were very nice.
[01:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like kind of goofy and they,
[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: uh,
[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: they have a softer side that many people don't know about or maybe see on
[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: the TV.
[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh gosh.
[01:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:18:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't,
[01:18:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sort of between a few different people.
[01:18:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go with Saul.
[01:18:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Liana is wrong.
[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh,
[01:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: that was my guess.
[01:18:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So I kind of like,
[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah,
[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_02]: that was my first guess as well,
[01:18:48] [SPEAKER_02]: especially,
[01:18:49] [SPEAKER_02]: especially the can be goofy of it all.
[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah,
[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_00]: exactly.
[01:18:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Onto.
[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Bye.
[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[01:18:55] [SPEAKER_07]: So first question,
[01:18:57] [SPEAKER_07]: this can be a dupe animal.
[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Correct.
[01:19:00] [SPEAKER_07]: The answer could be none of them.
[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_01]: No,
[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_01]: no,
[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_01]: no.
[01:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So,
[01:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[01:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: these are all,
[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: these all have a person.
[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh,
[01:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: later the decoys will come into play.
[01:19:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[01:19:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[01:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So duplicate people.
[01:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's all one time.
[01:19:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[01:19:13] [SPEAKER_07]: So at first when I thought assertive and deliberate,
[01:19:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I was thinking Rome.
[01:19:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause he seemed to have a very strong way of going with things.
[01:19:22] [SPEAKER_07]: And then can be goofy.
[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause on my end of watching,
[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_07]: it was very entertaining,
[01:19:25] [SPEAKER_07]: but with your background of depending on who raises them,
[01:19:28] [SPEAKER_07]: they could be warm hearted.
[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to guess Sam.
[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_01]: That is wrong.
[01:19:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:19:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael Bloom.
[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Those were my top two guesses.
[01:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: To be completely honest.
[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Um,
[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: a sort of deliberate can be goofy.
[01:19:44] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:19:45] [SPEAKER_02]: This might be a little out of left field,
[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: but like,
[01:19:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and not to say this was goofy,
[01:19:52] [SPEAKER_02]: but like when Annika got voted out,
[01:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: the idea of much like Rachel does her closest ally dressing up for her own
[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_02]: funeral that night,
[01:20:03] [SPEAKER_02]: for those of us that were in New York.
[01:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It was very,
[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_02]: very fun.
[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't call it goofy,
[01:20:08] [SPEAKER_02]: but I think is lighter and more comedic than maybe,
[01:20:11] [SPEAKER_02]: the incredibly assertive edit that she gave indicated.
[01:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to take a shot in the dark.
[01:20:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause I didn't give mine away.
[01:20:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And we'll say Annika.
[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh,
[01:20:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael is wrong as well.
[01:20:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You're all wrong.
[01:20:22] [SPEAKER_01]: No points on this one.
[01:20:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's clear that you would all have known the answer.
[01:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Had you read Mike Bloom's exit interviews.
[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So even Mike didn't read them,
[01:20:31] [SPEAKER_01]: but apparently this person was very goofy all around cam and at tribal council,
[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: very straight laced,
[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: very scary.
[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And,
[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: he had a plan and he followed through and they didn't really show it on the TV,
[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_01]: but apparently can be goofy.
[01:20:49] [SPEAKER_01]: If the right family.
[01:20:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Can I say that when you first put the Buffalo,
[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_07]: I had gaze picture next to me and I'm like,
[01:20:56] [SPEAKER_07]: but not in a negative way.
[01:20:59] [SPEAKER_07]: It was more.
[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_02]: The wind swept hair kind of gives volume in the way that the horns.
[01:21:05] [SPEAKER_07]: So that's kind of what my first thought was.
[01:21:07] [SPEAKER_07]: So let's go with the description lens.
[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Don't go.
[01:21:10] [SPEAKER_07]: You can really see it.
[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: there is a,
[01:21:12] [SPEAKER_01]: there is a resemblance here.
[01:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably like a six out of 10,
[01:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: but it's,
[01:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: it's there.
[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not all the way there,
[01:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: but I agree.
[01:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_01]: The Ard wolf.
[01:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Who are we on now?
[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I think.
[01:21:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's Lindsay.
[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm intrigued because I did not know this was an animal until you put together.
[01:21:31] [SPEAKER_01]: This is related to the hyena,
[01:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: but they only eat termites.
[01:21:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[01:21:35] [SPEAKER_02]: is that why?
[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's why the Ard part comes from,
[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess.
[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And they come out at nighttime.
[01:21:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Ooh.
[01:21:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[01:21:42] [SPEAKER_05]: What?
[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh,
[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh,
[01:21:44] [SPEAKER_07]: um,
[01:21:46] [SPEAKER_07]: am I mixing it up?
[01:21:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Or was there someone this season that had to do something at night?
[01:21:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Um,
[01:21:51] [SPEAKER_07]: while everyone was sleeping?
[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't,
[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: but there,
[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: but there were people who decided to do things at night because everyone else was sleeping.
[01:21:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I will say,
[01:21:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know what you're talking about.
[01:21:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It has nothing to do with that.
[01:22:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[01:22:01] [SPEAKER_07]: okay.
[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_07]: I thought I was getting a clue without you telling me,
[01:22:04] [SPEAKER_07]: um,
[01:22:05] [SPEAKER_07]: for the sake of never heard this animal before.
[01:22:07] [SPEAKER_07]: And the clue you just said has nothing to do with it.
[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to add for a description.
[01:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Quiet,
[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: sneaky,
[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: busy.
[01:22:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[01:22:14] [SPEAKER_01]: they got to eat a lot of termites to keep that body weight up,
[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: you know?
[01:22:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Um,
[01:22:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Hmm.
[01:22:23] [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's true for the sake of being busy and constantly like doing stuff and being
[01:22:28] [SPEAKER_07]: quiet with it because no one knew that she had the,
[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_07]: the red paint one.
[01:22:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Um,
[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_07]: but was she really that quiet or was she pretty vocal about how she felt about things?
[01:22:41] [SPEAKER_07]: So I don't know.
[01:22:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Um,
[01:22:46] [SPEAKER_06]: do I go with,
[01:22:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Ooh,
[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_07]: do I go with Kishan on this one?
[01:22:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that your final answer?
[01:23:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Um,
[01:23:03] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to go with,
[01:23:10] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to go with,
[01:23:11] [SPEAKER_07]: um,
[01:23:12] [SPEAKER_07]: what'd I say?
[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_07]: So you said either Sue or Kishan.
[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Sue or Kishan.
[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll do Kishan.
[01:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: The correct answer is Kishan.
[01:23:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes!
[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That's two points for Lindsay.
[01:23:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh,
[01:23:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think I'd win any of these.
[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Quiet,
[01:23:26] [SPEAKER_01]: very sneaky,
[01:23:28] [SPEAKER_01]: always eating termites.
[01:23:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Classic Kishan.
[01:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Classic Kishan.
[01:23:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[01:23:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how much caloric value they bring.
[01:23:33] [SPEAKER_02]: So I imagine if you know,
[01:23:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[01:23:34] [SPEAKER_02]: you might have to clarify as a nutritionist,
[01:23:36] [SPEAKER_02]: how much termites it's not worth it.
[01:23:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not worth it.
[01:23:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay's always told us that because you'd have to eat so many to get the benefit.
[01:23:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you look at his little eyes in this photo,
[01:23:47] [SPEAKER_01]: they kind of look like glasses.
[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It kind of reminds me a lot of that.
[01:23:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought you meant Kishan.
[01:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like,
[01:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure those are glasses.
[01:23:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I see it.
[01:23:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what it really gives me?
[01:23:58] [SPEAKER_01]: If you zoomed in on this picture of the Ardwolf,
[01:24:00] [SPEAKER_01]: it really gave me that Genevieve flashback of Kishan smiling like the Joker.
[01:24:04] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[01:24:05] [SPEAKER_01]: that's what it is.
[01:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:24:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So after two rounds each,
[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael has four points.
[01:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay controversially has three.
[01:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And Liana has two.
[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So we are back.
[01:24:16] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:24:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So I have a small lead here and we've done otters.
[01:24:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like in the past,
[01:24:22] [SPEAKER_02]: but I feel like the river otters have not done a river.
[01:24:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We have not done an otter in the past.
[01:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: No,
[01:24:25] [SPEAKER_02]: really?
[01:24:26] [SPEAKER_01]: No.
[01:24:26] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:24:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Well then I'm just misremembering everything.
[01:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to not trust my judgment here and go with the clue.
[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I thought,
[01:24:33] [SPEAKER_02]: bitch.
[01:24:34] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Gregarious,
[01:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: athletic,
[01:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: goofy.
[01:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
[01:24:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Because,
[01:24:41] [SPEAKER_02]: oh man,
[01:24:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I,
[01:24:42] [SPEAKER_02]: do I go for like the knee jerk answer here,
[01:24:46] [SPEAKER_02]: which is,
[01:24:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Rome.
[01:24:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause like Rome is goofy.
[01:24:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Not a lot of people on the Island necessarily liked that form of goofy,
[01:24:55] [SPEAKER_02]: but like the edit goofed on him plenty.
[01:24:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to just say Rome here.
[01:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Mike is wrong.
[01:25:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Whoa.
[01:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh,
[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_00]: interesting.
[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_00]: My first thought with,
[01:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why,
[01:25:07] [SPEAKER_00]: but the picture was giving Kyle.
[01:25:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I look at the little picture of the river otter.
[01:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And for some reason I saw Kyle.
[01:25:13] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just going to stick with my gut impression.
[01:25:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that your final answer?
[01:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Liana is wrong.
[01:25:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:25:22] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to go TK.
[01:25:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:25:25] [SPEAKER_01]: you're all wrong.
[01:25:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: The resemblance on this one is like so high with the cast photo.
[01:25:30] [SPEAKER_01]: What?
[01:25:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: you see that?
[01:25:36] [SPEAKER_01]: A long neck.
[01:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I see it.
[01:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I see it.
[01:25:40] [SPEAKER_01]: See that.
[01:25:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:25:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That is like,
[01:25:41] [SPEAKER_01]: if people are the first fans out the most to me.
[01:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[01:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: If you are listening to the audio,
[01:25:47] [SPEAKER_01]: you need to actually look at this side by side.
[01:25:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's uncanny.
[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: but yes,
[01:25:51] [SPEAKER_01]: this is actually perfect.
[01:25:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I actually had,
[01:25:52] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[01:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Sam as a golden retriever,
[01:25:54] [SPEAKER_01]: which before you say,
[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: does that mean you hate Sam?
[01:25:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause you hate dogs?
[01:25:57] [SPEAKER_01]: No,
[01:25:57] [SPEAKER_01]: the golden retriever is one of the few dogs I love.
[01:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And,
[01:26:02] [SPEAKER_01]: but then the river otter,
[01:26:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw this picture.
[01:26:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like,
[01:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: no,
[01:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: absolutely not.
[01:26:05] [SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely.
[01:26:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think Sam has ever tried whatever that red river otter has in
[01:26:08] [SPEAKER_02]: its mouth in that picture?
[01:26:09] [SPEAKER_02]: The fish?
[01:26:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Definitely.
[01:26:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think raw as well.
[01:26:12] Hmm.
[01:26:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Can't eat fruit,
[01:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: but he can golem style.
[01:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Just dig into a raw fish.
[01:26:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:26:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
[01:26:16] [SPEAKER_01]: he's digging into raw fish and,
[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and bootock before he's tried kiwi or pineapple.
[01:26:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Like,
[01:26:22] [SPEAKER_01]: please.
[01:26:22] [SPEAKER_07]: I was blown away with the lack of foods he's had.
[01:26:24] [SPEAKER_07]: And I was so happy that he got to try them on survivor.
[01:26:26] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause he probably wouldn't have tried them if he had a platter of that
[01:26:29] [SPEAKER_07]: in any other time when he wasn't starving.
[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_07]: So thank God he got to try some more options.
[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Lindsay would have had a heyday with that.
[01:26:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:26:36] [SPEAKER_02]: That's actually pretty wild.
[01:26:37] [SPEAKER_02]: The more you think about it,
[01:26:38] [SPEAKER_02]: that in a show where you are starved,
[01:26:41] [SPEAKER_02]: in so many ways,
[01:26:42] [SPEAKER_02]: this was a way for him to expand his palate.
[01:26:45] [SPEAKER_02]: What an ass backwards logic.
[01:26:47] [SPEAKER_02]: With the most limitations of food.
[01:26:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[01:26:49] [SPEAKER_07]: It's wild.
[01:26:50] [SPEAKER_07]: That just shows.
[01:26:51] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm curious of what his day-to-day eating is.
[01:26:52] [SPEAKER_07]: It's probably four items.
[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:26:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's very much the,
[01:26:56] [SPEAKER_02]: the Peter Brown,
[01:26:57] [SPEAKER_02]: like chicken,
[01:26:58] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[01:26:59] [SPEAKER_02]: chicken nuggets,
[01:27:00] [SPEAKER_02]: chicken tenders and fries.
[01:27:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
[01:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:27:05] [SPEAKER_02]: The main.
[01:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:27:06] [SPEAKER_01]: whoa.
[01:27:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Look at the legs.
[01:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like the Naomi small.
[01:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Legs for days.
[01:27:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Legs for days.
[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Is this one where they resemble their animal?
[01:27:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say the resemblance is probably like an eight to nine out of
[01:27:20] [SPEAKER_01]: 10.
[01:27:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:27:21] [SPEAKER_00]: wow.
[01:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Start looking at those legs,
[01:27:24] [SPEAKER_01]: people.
[01:27:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing.
[01:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm straight guessing.
[01:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going with Kyle.
[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That is right.
[01:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Three points for the animal.
[01:27:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Nice job.
[01:27:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I remember from his cast photo thinking,
[01:27:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Kyle's proportion.
[01:27:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Mike and I talked about this.
[01:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like,
[01:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Kyle is so lanky.
[01:27:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh,
[01:27:42] [SPEAKER_07]: and then it's looking there also adds to the fur.
[01:27:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[01:27:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It's so does.
[01:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[01:27:49] [SPEAKER_01]: if you're like a,
[01:27:49] [SPEAKER_01]: you know how on those dating apps,
[01:27:51] [SPEAKER_01]: you can have like a percentage match.
[01:27:53] [SPEAKER_01]: This is like an a hundred percent percent match between these two
[01:27:57] [SPEAKER_01]: elusive,
[01:27:58] [SPEAKER_01]: athletic,
[01:27:59] [SPEAKER_01]: pack oriented,
[01:28:00] [SPEAKER_01]: raising their family.
[01:28:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And then unexpected because you look at this,
[01:28:04] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a wolf.
[01:28:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that it eats meat?
[01:28:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You'd be largely wrong.
[01:28:10] [SPEAKER_01]: They eat a lot of vegetables and fruit.
[01:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Now,
[01:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: what if that main wolf won chicken wings in the auction?
[01:28:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,
[01:28:16] [SPEAKER_02]: they sometimes do eat meat.
[01:28:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So that.
[01:28:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:28:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So sometimes too much captivity though,
[01:28:23] [SPEAKER_01]: they're going to get a big ass stone in their bladder.
[01:28:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And how about that?
[01:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So don't do that.
[01:28:28] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of legumes,
[01:28:30] [SPEAKER_01]: as they say,
[01:28:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Kyle.
[01:28:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
[01:28:34] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay,
[01:28:36] [SPEAKER_01]: you are looking at the Nene.
[01:28:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Nene.
[01:28:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Watch it.
[01:28:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Nene.
[01:28:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:28:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say,
[01:28:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I know.
[01:28:45] [SPEAKER_07]: I'll go for the description,
[01:28:47] [SPEAKER_07]: please.
[01:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So the Nene is also known as the Hawaiian goose.
[01:28:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It is confident,
[01:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: assured and a national treasure.
[01:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: a national treasure.
[01:28:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh,
[01:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: okay.
[01:29:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Mm hmm.
[01:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Mm hmm.
[01:29:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Mm hmm.
[01:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh,
[01:29:12] [SPEAKER_07]: I'll go Tiana.
[01:29:13] [SPEAKER_07]: That is correct.
[01:29:15] [SPEAKER_07]: For two points.
[01:29:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Nice.
[01:29:16] [SPEAKER_07]: The minute you said Hawaiian goose,
[01:29:18] [SPEAKER_07]: I was like,
[01:29:19] [SPEAKER_07]: it's gotta be that.
[01:29:20] [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't even hear you say that part.
[01:29:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh.
[01:29:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I actually,
[01:29:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I really,
[01:29:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I was really upset to not see her make it into the jury.
[01:29:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:29:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That was a tough one to watch.
[01:29:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Very sad.
[01:29:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And the Hawaiian goose was very endangered.
[01:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: The Nene.
[01:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And now it is a national,
[01:29:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it might be the national or the permit or the state bird of Hawaii.
[01:29:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:29:40] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe I could be wrong about that,
[01:29:41] [SPEAKER_01]: but it is revered and it almost went extinct.
[01:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you look at it,
[01:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: they both have that power pose,
[01:29:48] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:29:49] [SPEAKER_03]: that's,
[01:29:49] [SPEAKER_01]: that's a classic,
[01:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: uh,
[01:29:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Hawaiian goose right there.
[01:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:29:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Love it.
[01:29:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So now after three rounds,
[01:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: we have five points,
[01:29:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Liana,
[01:29:59] [SPEAKER_01]: five points,
[01:30:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay,
[01:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: four points,
[01:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael.
[01:30:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the new,
[01:30:03] [SPEAKER_01]: that's the new era.
[01:30:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:30:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You're in front and then all of a sudden you fall behind.
[01:30:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what he gets,
[01:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: you know?
[01:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: The Guinea pig.
[01:30:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:30:15] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah.
[01:30:18] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:30:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you say booty cutie?
[01:30:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[01:30:21] [SPEAKER_02]: cutie.
[01:30:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like,
[01:30:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not checking out the apple cheeks.
[01:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I should have actually put up a picture of the other end of one as well.
[01:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: It's appalling.
[01:30:30] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm doing clickbait around Guinea pig asses.
[01:30:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where we've gotten at this point in the podcast.
[01:30:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yesterday we had to do a bore cleaning on one of them because as they get older and a little saggy back there,
[01:30:43] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of poop and stuff accumulates in the little sack and you have to clean it out.
[01:30:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It's called the bore cleaning.
[01:30:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:30:51] [SPEAKER_02]: that's fun.
[01:30:51] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:30:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,
[01:30:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I will have you bore into the characteristics of this Guinea pig.
[01:30:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Give me the.
[01:30:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Coward.
[01:30:56] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Here you go.
[01:30:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Social,
[01:30:59] [SPEAKER_02]: charming,
[01:31:00] [SPEAKER_01]: vulnerable,
[01:31:01] [SPEAKER_01]: delicious question mark.
[01:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Delicious.
[01:31:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:31:05] [SPEAKER_02]: this vulnerable,
[01:31:07] [SPEAKER_02]: social,
[01:31:07] [SPEAKER_02]: charming,
[01:31:08] [SPEAKER_02]: despite,
[01:31:09] [SPEAKER_02]: unfortunately,
[01:31:10] [SPEAKER_02]: how,
[01:31:11] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,
[01:31:12] [SPEAKER_02]: empty handed and left footed.
[01:31:14] [SPEAKER_02]: They've kind of looked the past couple of weeks.
[01:31:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say teeny.
[01:31:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That is correct.
[01:31:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:31:20] [SPEAKER_00]: That was my first gut too.
[01:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[01:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and also that's.
[01:31:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Two points for Mike now he's and,
[01:31:27] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:31:27] [SPEAKER_01]: the delicious,
[01:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: this is a prey species.
[01:31:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Everything wants to eat them.
[01:31:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And Genevieve has been eating up teeny for weeks now.
[01:31:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[01:31:35] [SPEAKER_01]: that's a predator.
[01:31:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I also think using the more metaphoric definition of Guinea pig,
[01:31:40] [SPEAKER_02]: as Sam said,
[01:31:41] [SPEAKER_02]: whenever you want a piece of information out in public,
[01:31:44] [SPEAKER_02]: tell teeny.
[01:31:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And so teen is kind of the Guinea pig of like,
[01:31:46] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah,
[01:31:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I found the clue under a pizza slice.
[01:31:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I have an idol.
[01:31:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:31:50] [SPEAKER_02]: We.
[01:31:51] [SPEAKER_02]: We.
[01:31:52] [SPEAKER_01]: That sounds.
[01:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: They say.
[01:31:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And then also,
[01:31:56] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:31:57] [SPEAKER_01]: as,
[01:31:57] [SPEAKER_01]: as,
[01:31:57] [SPEAKER_01]: as loud as these guys are,
[01:31:59] [SPEAKER_01]: especially when they're being,
[01:32:00] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:32:01] [SPEAKER_01]: you're giving them fluids or taking blood,
[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: they'll scream bloody murder because they don't have a lot of defenses.
[01:32:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[01:32:07] [SPEAKER_01]: they can't really do anything when the claws are coming out,
[01:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: other than scream and squeal.
[01:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Poor little things.
[01:32:15] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:32:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Liana,
[01:32:17] [SPEAKER_01]: you're up.
[01:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Rhinoceros.
[01:32:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: specifically the hook lipped rhinoceros or the black rhinoceros,
[01:32:26] [SPEAKER_01]: as it's also known as.
[01:32:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Shoot.
[01:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Um,
[01:32:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to play conservatively.
[01:32:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You can be mad at me,
[01:32:35] [SPEAKER_00]: but I'm going to,
[01:32:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take it.
[01:32:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
[01:32:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey,
[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_00]: look,
[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm the only one who guessed that.
[01:32:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:32:39] [SPEAKER_00]: No,
[01:32:40] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah.
[01:32:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:32:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Liana took that big risk.
[01:32:42] [SPEAKER_02]: She was trying to like,
[01:32:44] [SPEAKER_02]: go back to like,
[01:32:44] [SPEAKER_02]: all right,
[01:32:45] [SPEAKER_02]: now I just got to play conservatively.
[01:32:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[01:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[01:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I respected a bit more confident,
[01:32:50] [SPEAKER_01]: mighty and wayward.
[01:32:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:32:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So there are,
[01:32:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I was hoping that that would immediately.
[01:32:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's two people that I am debating between.
[01:33:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say them out loud,
[01:33:03] [SPEAKER_00]: but I'm going to go with my first gut,
[01:33:07] [SPEAKER_00]: which was Rome.
[01:33:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That is wrong.
[01:33:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:33:11] [SPEAKER_01]: no.
[01:33:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay for the steel.
[01:33:15] [SPEAKER_07]: That was my gut too.
[01:33:17] [SPEAKER_07]: For one of them.
[01:33:18] [SPEAKER_07]: So now I was like,
[01:33:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh,
[01:33:19] [SPEAKER_07]: what would be my backup?
[01:33:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Um,
[01:33:23] [SPEAKER_01]: if Rome was,
[01:33:24] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:33:24] [SPEAKER_01]: getting into a fight with Saul though,
[01:33:26] [SPEAKER_01]: he's not going to win.
[01:33:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And this,
[01:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: no,
[01:33:29] [SPEAKER_01]: it's always kind of my backup.
[01:33:31] [SPEAKER_07]: There.
[01:33:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Um,
[01:33:35] [SPEAKER_07]: then again,
[01:33:36] [SPEAKER_07]: like Sue's pretty tough,
[01:33:39] [SPEAKER_07]: but then again,
[01:33:40] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
[01:33:42] [SPEAKER_07]: She has confidence in her feelings.
[01:33:45] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
[01:33:46] [SPEAKER_07]: In terms of like confidence in like,
[01:33:48] [SPEAKER_07]: what might be going on with everyone else.
[01:33:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Um,
[01:33:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to go.
[01:33:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Trying to think of who we have left.
[01:33:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Um,
[01:34:01] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah,
[01:34:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to go with Saul.
[01:34:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That is wrong as well.
[01:34:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael Bloom for the steel.
[01:34:05] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:34:06] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm thinking about this wayward.
[01:34:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I define as like difficult to control,
[01:34:11] [SPEAKER_02]: uh,
[01:34:12] [SPEAKER_02]: someone who's a little bit more unpredictable.
[01:34:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And this might be a little out of left field,
[01:34:17] [SPEAKER_02]: but TK incredibly confident in his three person alliance,
[01:34:22] [SPEAKER_02]: very physically strong,
[01:34:23] [SPEAKER_02]: very mighty and wayward.
[01:34:25] [SPEAKER_02]: two days after Andy went on into an entire Shaquilla on the mat,
[01:34:29] [SPEAKER_02]: decides to do the same thing,
[01:34:31] [SPEAKER_02]: calling out Tiana for,
[01:34:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess,
[01:34:33] [SPEAKER_02]: being too happy about losing.
[01:34:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go with TK.
[01:34:36] [SPEAKER_02]: The Rhino here.
[01:34:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael Bloom is correct.
[01:34:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:34:39] [SPEAKER_00]: The other person I was between.
[01:34:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[01:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He does it his own way.
[01:34:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And that is the TK way,
[01:34:46] [SPEAKER_01]: but he's very strong and able to back it up.
[01:34:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And that is the rhinoceros.
[01:34:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Now,
[01:34:51] [SPEAKER_01]: why might you ask,
[01:34:52] [SPEAKER_01]: is he the hook lipped or black rhinoceros as opposed to the white rhinoceros?
[01:34:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not what you would think people.
[01:34:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's,
[01:34:59] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[01:35:00] [SPEAKER_01]: the white rhinoceros actually is a lot more collaborative and they,
[01:35:03] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[01:35:04] [SPEAKER_01]: can live in small groups and they're good with that.
[01:35:06] [SPEAKER_01]: The black rhinoceros does things their own way.
[01:35:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And that is the TK way.
[01:35:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So that is,
[01:35:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's for all of you thinking,
[01:35:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:35:15] [SPEAKER_01]: well,
[01:35:15] [SPEAKER_01]: why isn't he the Sumatran rhino?
[01:35:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's not a Sumatran rhino is not that wayward.
[01:35:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[01:35:21] [SPEAKER_01]: they're just trying to hang on and survive from extinction.
[01:35:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for clarifying.
[01:35:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:35:28] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:35:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Next.
[01:35:29] [SPEAKER_01]: We were all wondering.
[01:35:30] [SPEAKER_01]: There are two other rhinoceroses,
[01:35:32] [SPEAKER_01]: but we won't go into them.
[01:35:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:35:33] [SPEAKER_01]: wow.
[01:35:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Well,
[01:35:33] [SPEAKER_01]: actually bonus point.
[01:35:35] [SPEAKER_01]: If anyone can name one of the other two rhinoceroses.
[01:35:38] [SPEAKER_00]: The brown rhinoceros.
[01:35:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming it's not color based.
[01:35:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I will say,
[01:35:46] [SPEAKER_02]: is there a hook clip?
[01:35:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I would say,
[01:35:48] [SPEAKER_02]: is there like a,
[01:35:49] [SPEAKER_02]: uh,
[01:35:52] [SPEAKER_02]: triple backed?
[01:35:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Big horn.
[01:35:55] [SPEAKER_01]: No,
[01:35:56] [SPEAKER_01]: no.
[01:35:56] [SPEAKER_01]: The other two rhinos.
[01:35:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Rhino.
[01:35:59] [SPEAKER_01]: No,
[01:36:00] [SPEAKER_01]: there is the black rhino,
[01:36:01] [SPEAKER_01]: the white rhino,
[01:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: the Sumatran rhino,
[01:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: the Indian or greater one horned rhino,
[01:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and the Javan rhino,
[01:36:08] [SPEAKER_01]: which there's only about 50 left in the whole world.
[01:36:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that,
[01:36:11] [SPEAKER_02]: is that rarer than the white rhino then?
[01:36:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:36:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
[01:36:15] [SPEAKER_01]: There's one subspecies of Northern white rhino that is more endangered than that,
[01:36:19] [SPEAKER_01]: but.
[01:36:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[01:36:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the whole thing about like the people keeping guard over it at all times.
[01:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:36:23] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a subspecies.
[01:36:25] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:36:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait,
[01:36:26] [SPEAKER_01]: where's the picture of this one?
[01:36:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not even there.
[01:36:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
[01:36:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Does the picture have essence to the character?
[01:36:34] [SPEAKER_07]: No,
[01:36:34] [SPEAKER_01]: the picture was extremely helpful in what it was,
[01:36:38] [SPEAKER_01]: but hopefully it'll be on the next slide.
[01:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just.
[01:36:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just.
[01:36:42] [SPEAKER_02]: This is how much of a wild card you are.
[01:36:46] [SPEAKER_02]: This is why Andy said you is because we didn't know if it was a bit or not,
[01:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: that you just produced a black rectangle of nothing when the word duck pops up.
[01:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was the meme.
[01:36:56] [SPEAKER_00]: No,
[01:36:56] [SPEAKER_01]: no,
[01:36:57] [SPEAKER_01]: no,
[01:36:57] [SPEAKER_01]: no,
[01:36:58] [SPEAKER_01]: no,
[01:36:58] [SPEAKER_01]: no.
[01:36:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunate.
[01:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:37:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So it has its mouth open.
[01:37:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that the key?
[01:37:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's Lindsay.
[01:37:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait,
[01:37:05] [SPEAKER_01]: what are you talking about?
[01:37:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You can see the picture?
[01:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,
[01:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: no,
[01:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I took a screenshot when you showed.
[01:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yes.
[01:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[01:37:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the one you're correct.
[01:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah,
[01:37:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Lindsay,
[01:37:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Lindsay's go,
[01:37:13] [SPEAKER_00]: but Lindsay,
[01:37:13] [SPEAKER_00]: it has an open mouth.
[01:37:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And I assume that that is like the relevant thing that Omer is trying to point out.
[01:37:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh,
[01:37:19] [SPEAKER_07]: why the picture matters.
[01:37:20] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to go with Rome then.
[01:37:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:37:23] [SPEAKER_01]: you're going to do it without the clues.
[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Sure.
[01:37:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to be a coward.
[01:37:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't even have a picture.
[01:37:29] [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm,
[01:37:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm really going.
[01:37:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Here in the dark.
[01:37:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:37:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And she is wrong.
[01:37:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately,
[01:37:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael for the steel.
[01:37:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So Michael,
[01:37:40] [SPEAKER_01]: you're in a position now where you could steal two points or you could get the clue and go down to one.
[01:37:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I will get the clue here and try to narrowly extend my lead.
[01:37:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Opinionated,
[01:37:49] [SPEAKER_01]: collaborative,
[01:37:50] [SPEAKER_01]: sassy.
[01:37:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That is Annika.
[01:37:53] [SPEAKER_01]: That is correct.
[01:37:55] [SPEAKER_01]: For one point for Mike.
[01:37:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And the other visual clue about the duck is yes,
[01:38:00] [SPEAKER_01]: it is quacking back at anybody that quacks at it,
[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: but also the picture of the duck is a female duck.
[01:38:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It is a female mallard.
[01:38:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was a secondary clue for anybody who could do that.
[01:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So unfortunately,
[01:38:16] [SPEAKER_01]: we do not have the side by side,
[01:38:17] [SPEAKER_01]: but we will later.
[01:38:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully.
[01:38:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So now you look at where we're at.
[01:38:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You can see the duck.
[01:38:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:38:23] [SPEAKER_01]: We are switching things up here.
[01:38:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Now we have gone through 12 animals.
[01:38:27] [SPEAKER_01]: There are six people left and we are going to start naming them with the six.
[01:38:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we'll,
[01:38:33] [SPEAKER_01]: we'll name the person and you have to guess the animal from this remaining list of 12.
[01:38:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So you may want to take a screenshot or something to know what is still on the board.
[01:38:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And to describe them to the audio listeners,
[01:38:46] [SPEAKER_02]: it is the aardvark,
[01:38:47] [SPEAKER_02]: the bush baby,
[01:38:48] [SPEAKER_02]: the cormorant,
[01:38:49] [SPEAKER_02]: the green sheet,
[01:38:51] [SPEAKER_02]: the green sheet,
[01:38:52] [SPEAKER_02]: conure,
[01:38:53] [SPEAKER_02]: conure,
[01:38:53] [SPEAKER_02]: a salmon,
[01:38:55] [SPEAKER_02]: sea turtle,
[01:38:56] [SPEAKER_02]: springbok,
[01:38:57] [SPEAKER_02]: tiger,
[01:38:58] [SPEAKER_02]: white tail deer,
[01:38:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and a yak,
[01:39:00] [SPEAKER_02]: an Ibex and Kinkajou.
[01:39:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[01:39:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I have skipped the Ibex and Kinkajou.
[01:39:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[01:39:05] [SPEAKER_07]: And these are the ones of the players that are still left that we didn't pick.
[01:39:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[01:39:08] [SPEAKER_07]: And the decoys.
[01:39:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So the decoys are now in this list.
[01:39:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is the bottom row,
[01:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: just the decoys.
[01:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't do that.
[01:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you?
[01:39:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess we'll find out,
[01:39:16] [SPEAKER_00]: won't we?
[01:39:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It's alphabetical,
[01:39:17] [SPEAKER_01]: but all right.
[01:39:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Back to Michael for Andy.
[01:39:22] [SPEAKER_01]: People are wondering,
[01:39:22] [SPEAKER_01]: where's Andy?
[01:39:24] [SPEAKER_01]: What's with Andy?
[01:39:25] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[01:39:26] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to,
[01:39:27] [SPEAKER_02]: again,
[01:39:27] [SPEAKER_02]: demo this a little bit,
[01:39:28] [SPEAKER_02]: be my own Guinea pig,
[01:39:29] [SPEAKER_02]: because I believe if I take the two,
[01:39:31] [SPEAKER_02]: you will give your descriptors of this person,
[01:39:34] [SPEAKER_02]: which should apply to the animal.
[01:39:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:39:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:39:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So I will take the two.
[01:39:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You'll take the two points.
[01:39:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:39:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:39:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So you want them.
[01:39:41] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:39:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Unexpected,
[01:39:42] [SPEAKER_01]: undercover,
[01:39:43] [SPEAKER_01]: wacky.
[01:39:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[01:39:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So.
[01:39:48] [SPEAKER_00]: How do I know if a yak is wacky?
[01:39:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,
[01:39:52] [SPEAKER_02]: it's in the song.
[01:39:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Wacky,
[01:39:54] [SPEAKER_02]: wacko and dot.
[01:39:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:39:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Wackety yak.
[01:39:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I am going to go with,
[01:39:59] [SPEAKER_02]: okay.
[01:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Unexpected undercover is a big one.
[01:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like,
[01:40:05] [SPEAKER_02]: isn't the thing with like a,
[01:40:06] [SPEAKER_02]: a cormorant that like sticks its head under the water to capture fish.
[01:40:11] [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe that's dive underwater.
[01:40:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not that.
[01:40:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to go with the cormorant there.
[01:40:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Michael is wrong.
[01:40:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[01:40:17] [SPEAKER_01]: moving on to Liana for the steel.
[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm trying to remember in China when they had like the,
[01:40:21] [SPEAKER_02]: the cormorants,
[01:40:22] [SPEAKER_02]: right.
[01:40:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Get brought in to catch the fish for them.
[01:40:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And they would put an elastic band around their neck.
[01:40:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So it wouldn't go all the way down.
[01:40:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Poor little things.
[01:40:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Um,
[01:40:30] [SPEAKER_00]: okay.
[01:40:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say a kinkajou.
[01:40:35] [SPEAKER_01]: No.
[01:40:37] [SPEAKER_01]: For the next seal.
[01:40:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Uh,
[01:40:41] [SPEAKER_07]: okay.
[01:40:41] [SPEAKER_07]: So before you said the description,
[01:40:43] [SPEAKER_07]: I was thinking salmon because it's swimming upstream.
[01:40:46] [SPEAKER_07]: And I felt like.
[01:40:49] [SPEAKER_07]: To save myself that I'm going to not get this answer.
[01:40:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Correct.
[01:40:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Um,
[01:40:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I,
[01:40:57] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to do.
[01:40:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Bush baby.
[01:41:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Ooh.
[01:41:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Wondering if they are undercover because you can't really see them where
[01:41:05] [SPEAKER_07]: they're hidden and they just look cute.
[01:41:06] [SPEAKER_07]: So maybe they're wacky.
[01:41:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Well,
[01:41:08] [SPEAKER_01]: you are all wrong.
[01:41:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And having fun.
[01:41:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Isn't hard.
[01:41:12] [SPEAKER_01]: When you have a library card,
[01:41:14] [SPEAKER_01]: a,
[01:41:15] [SPEAKER_01]: a,
[01:41:15] [SPEAKER_01]: r,
[01:41:15] [SPEAKER_01]: d,
[01:41:16] [SPEAKER_01]: v,
[01:41:16] [SPEAKER_01]: a,
[01:41:16] [SPEAKER_01]: r,
[01:41:16] [SPEAKER_01]: k.
[01:41:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He is the aardvark.
[01:41:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And,
[01:41:20] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[01:41:20] [SPEAKER_01]: he doesn't really look like a typical aardvark.
[01:41:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So I went with the other commercial aardvark.
[01:41:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But I would say this,
[01:41:26] [SPEAKER_02]: this is a false advertisement for aardvarks.
[01:41:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause Arthur is like,
[01:41:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[01:41:30] [SPEAKER_02]: One of the biggest,
[01:41:31] [SPEAKER_02]: like blase main characters in pop culture.
[01:41:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:41:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that Andy looks more like this Arthur,
[01:41:38] [SPEAKER_01]: but is more like the animal aardvark.
[01:41:41] [SPEAKER_01]: How about that?
[01:41:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:41:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[01:41:42] [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't realize that aardvarks were unexpected and wacky.
[01:41:45] [SPEAKER_07]: So it's interesting.
[01:41:46] [SPEAKER_01]: They're undercover.
[01:41:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They're always underground,
[01:41:49] [SPEAKER_01]: digging around,
[01:41:50] [SPEAKER_01]: doing whatever they want.
[01:41:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:41:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and you know,
[01:41:52] [SPEAKER_01]: he kind of just looks like an aardvark as well.
[01:41:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that it all kind of just comes together for me here,
[01:41:57] [SPEAKER_01]: you know?
[01:41:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:41:58] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:41:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Next up is Liana.
[01:42:02] [SPEAKER_01]: For your girl,
[01:42:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Asia Welch.
[01:42:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like,
[01:42:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to get like,
[01:42:07] [SPEAKER_00]: okay,
[01:42:07] [SPEAKER_00]: you're going to give me Asia's characteristics.
[01:42:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be like,
[01:42:09] [SPEAKER_00]: yep,
[01:42:10] [SPEAKER_00]: that's Asia.
[01:42:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[01:42:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm,
[01:42:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm interested to see how Omer describes Asia part.
[01:42:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Low key.
[01:42:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Eventually.
[01:42:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:42:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying from a game perspective.
[01:42:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:42:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to guess.
[01:42:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Bush baby.
[01:42:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you get Bush baby,
[01:42:24] [SPEAKER_01]: correct,
[01:42:24] [SPEAKER_01]: you will get three points and that will tie with Mike.
[01:42:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And you have tied with Mike.
[01:42:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[01:42:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:42:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I can feel it.
[01:42:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Energetic.
[01:42:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Fun.
[01:42:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at those beady little eyes,
[01:42:38] [SPEAKER_01]: you know?
[01:42:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So cute.
[01:42:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Good call.
[01:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:42:42] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: What would,
[01:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: how would a Bush baby react if somebody spit fish around them?
[01:42:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Not,
[01:42:47] [SPEAKER_01]: not.
[01:42:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[01:42:51] [SPEAKER_01]: They probably would have not taken it.
[01:42:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Well,
[01:42:54] [SPEAKER_01]: been gaslighted and voted out.
[01:42:59] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:43:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So Lindsay,
[01:43:01] [SPEAKER_01]: now you are on the back foot here.
[01:43:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You have five points.
[01:43:03] [SPEAKER_01]: They have eight.
[01:43:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to Sue's me.
[01:43:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:43:10] [SPEAKER_05]: all right.
[01:43:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Well,
[01:43:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying her name like a Pokemon.
[01:43:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[01:43:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[01:43:22] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean,
[01:43:22] [SPEAKER_07]: I kind of know who Sue is.
[01:43:24] [SPEAKER_07]: So I don't know if they're just going to help me figure out the animal as
[01:43:26] [SPEAKER_07]: much.
[01:43:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Um,
[01:43:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to go with tiger here.
[01:43:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Good.
[01:43:35] [SPEAKER_01]: A very good guess.
[01:43:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It was the bait one for like the tiger queen,
[01:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:43:41] [SPEAKER_01]: but that is wrong.
[01:43:42] [SPEAKER_06]: You suckered me in.
[01:43:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:43:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael for the steel.
[01:43:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Two points or with the descriptor.
[01:43:49] [SPEAKER_01]: One point.
[01:43:51] [SPEAKER_07]: It's not that I know these animals that well at all.
[01:43:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah,
[01:43:53] [SPEAKER_07]: I know.
[01:43:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I know that was a baited one.
[01:43:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause I totally forgot.
[01:43:56] [SPEAKER_07]: There's like deco.
[01:43:57] [SPEAKER_07]: I know.
[01:43:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to hear the descriptors.
[01:43:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I just like,
[01:43:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I enjoy the Omer's,
[01:44:01] [SPEAKER_02]: uh,
[01:44:01] [SPEAKER_02]: thesaurus,
[01:44:02] [SPEAKER_02]: like use of adjectives.
[01:44:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Regimented.
[01:44:04] [SPEAKER_01]: A great digger.
[01:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Unbothered.
[01:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: A mother quake.
[01:44:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Great digger.
[01:44:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:44:09] [SPEAKER_01]: This is great.
[01:44:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:44:15] [SPEAKER_02]: because don't.
[01:44:16] [SPEAKER_02]: See turtles.
[01:44:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Dig a hole for their babies to be in.
[01:44:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,
[01:44:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go.
[01:44:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Pick the salmon.
[01:44:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:44:27] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the salmon.
[01:44:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Notorious great digger.
[01:44:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Salmon.
[01:44:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Great digger.
[01:44:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to,
[01:44:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go with sea turtle here.
[01:44:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That is the mother quake.
[01:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh wait,
[01:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: that's mother.
[01:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That's,
[01:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[01:44:39] [SPEAKER_01]: that's goddess.
[01:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember Courtney merits.
[01:44:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:44:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You got rolled a dead sea turtle into the ocean.
[01:44:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:44:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:44:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:44:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So that is a steal.
[01:44:47] [SPEAKER_01]: One point for Mike,
[01:44:48] [SPEAKER_01]: the sea turtle.
[01:44:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[01:44:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you to survivor worlds apart.
[01:44:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And also that one scene in survivor 41 of reminding me of how sea turtles,
[01:44:56] [SPEAKER_02]: uh,
[01:44:56] [SPEAKER_02]: bury their eggs.
[01:44:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes,
[01:44:58] [SPEAKER_01]: exactly.
[01:44:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And they,
[01:44:59] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:44:59] [SPEAKER_01]: they,
[01:44:59] [SPEAKER_01]: they disrupt their whole life to go lay those eggs on land instead of just
[01:45:04] [SPEAKER_01]: living in,
[01:45:04] [SPEAKER_01]: in the sea as they want to.
[01:45:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a mother right there.
[01:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: okay.
[01:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So we have one round of three players left and we are at nine points for
[01:45:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Mike,
[01:45:14] [SPEAKER_01]: eight points for Liana,
[01:45:15] [SPEAKER_01]: five points for Lindsay.
[01:45:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody is out of it yet,
[01:45:18] [SPEAKER_01]: especially with the bonus question,
[01:45:20] [SPEAKER_01]: which is more a bonus question than a tiebreaker question.
[01:45:23] [SPEAKER_01]: TBH.
[01:45:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Sierra,
[01:45:25] [SPEAKER_01]: right.
[01:45:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[01:45:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I,
[01:45:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I,
[01:45:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I know I just keep being a lame-o here,
[01:45:32] [SPEAKER_02]: uh,
[01:45:32] [SPEAKER_02]: cheapo depo,
[01:45:33] [SPEAKER_02]: but I,
[01:45:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I need to hear the way you describe Sierra so that I can figure out how
[01:45:38] [SPEAKER_02]: this matches up.
[01:45:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And I will,
[01:45:40] [SPEAKER_01]: yes,
[01:45:40] [SPEAKER_01]: if I was actually doing,
[01:45:41] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[01:45:42] [SPEAKER_01]: this with comparisons to previous contestants,
[01:45:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I would actually give Sierra Lindsay.
[01:45:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:45:48] [SPEAKER_01]: very similar.
[01:45:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:45:50] [SPEAKER_01]: great Alliance members,
[01:45:51] [SPEAKER_01]: very,
[01:45:52] [SPEAKER_01]: uh,
[01:45:52] [SPEAKER_01]: well-rounded players,
[01:45:54] [SPEAKER_01]: graceful,
[01:45:54] [SPEAKER_01]: tough,
[01:45:55] [SPEAKER_01]: gregarious.
[01:45:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Now,
[01:45:56] [SPEAKER_02]: is that a clue?
[01:45:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Because you did give Lindsay,
[01:45:59] [SPEAKER_02]: what,
[01:45:59] [SPEAKER_02]: a Thompson's antelope.
[01:46:01] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm wondering,
[01:46:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that's.
[01:46:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael Scott blue.
[01:46:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Thompson's gazelle.
[01:46:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:46:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sorry.
[01:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:46:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Antelope as if it's like the willy nilly.
[01:46:12] [SPEAKER_01]: There's not even a monophyletic group.
[01:46:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:46:14] [SPEAKER_02]: that said,
[01:46:16] [SPEAKER_02]: the springbok is similar to an antelope or a gazelle.
[01:46:19] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll go with springbok.
[01:46:21] [SPEAKER_02]: He's on a roll,
[01:46:22] [SPEAKER_02]: baby.
[01:46:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Springbok.
[01:46:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[01:46:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And then that's why I'm happy.
[01:46:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I watched survivor South Africa.
[01:46:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause I knew a springbok,
[01:46:29] [SPEAKER_02]: what it was because it's a name of a team,
[01:46:31] [SPEAKER_02]: a rugby team.
[01:46:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I believe.
[01:46:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:46:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But not as cool as the actual springbok.
[01:46:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.
[01:46:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:46:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:46:38] [SPEAKER_01]: you can kind of see if,
[01:46:39] [SPEAKER_01]: if you thought if Sierra had horns,
[01:46:41] [SPEAKER_01]: they would be a little bit pointy like that,
[01:46:43] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:46:43] [SPEAKER_01]: curved in words.
[01:46:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:46:46] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:46:47] [SPEAKER_01]: you could see her having stripes down her face as well.
[01:46:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:46:50] [SPEAKER_01]: much too.
[01:46:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So it is.
[01:46:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And very athletic,
[01:46:54] [SPEAKER_01]: very solid animal.
[01:46:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[01:46:55] [SPEAKER_01]: you're not going to fuck with that.
[01:46:56] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:46:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[01:46:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Solomon E,
[01:47:00] [SPEAKER_01]: your,
[01:47:00] [SPEAKER_01]: um,
[01:47:01] [SPEAKER_01]: draft pick Liana.
[01:47:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:47:04] [SPEAKER_00]: My draft.
[01:47:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Saul went really late in this game.
[01:47:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause there were many decoy Saul's out there.
[01:47:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's very true.
[01:47:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually.
[01:47:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You knew I am.
[01:47:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm debating just straight guessing.
[01:47:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That would tie you with Mike.
[01:47:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,
[01:47:19] [SPEAKER_00]: exactly.
[01:47:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I need to,
[01:47:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I need to be aggressive.
[01:47:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to say that Saul is the Solomon.
[01:47:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That is wrong.
[01:47:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:47:33] [SPEAKER_01]: we can steal for either two points to guess without,
[01:47:37] [SPEAKER_01]: or one point.
[01:47:39] [SPEAKER_01]: If she gets the descriptors,
[01:47:41] [SPEAKER_01]: she's at five.
[01:47:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Mike's at 11.
[01:47:44] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean,
[01:47:45] [SPEAKER_07]: I've no shot of this.
[01:47:46] [SPEAKER_07]: So I'm just going to do the descriptor because I would like to not lose even worse.
[01:47:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Powerful avoids confrontation and icon.
[01:47:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:47:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh,
[01:47:55] [SPEAKER_05]: um,
[01:47:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to go with.
[01:47:58] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[01:47:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Powerful avoids confrontation.
[01:48:01] [SPEAKER_05]: The Ibex seems like it's meant for confrontation.
[01:48:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
[01:48:08] [SPEAKER_05]: The white tail deer doesn't seem very powerful.
[01:48:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to go with the yak.
[01:48:13] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:48:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So first of all,
[01:48:15] [SPEAKER_01]: that's kind of fucked up.
[01:48:17] [SPEAKER_01]: A white deal deer is so powerful.
[01:48:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it really?
[01:48:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:48:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You should see some of the pictures,
[01:48:22] [SPEAKER_01]: the videos of the bucks that are attacking the hunters.
[01:48:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they're all like,
[01:48:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh,
[01:48:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting attacked by a deer.
[01:48:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You're out there.
[01:48:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Motherfucker trying to kill it.
[01:48:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's.
[01:48:32] [SPEAKER_07]: So was the white tailed deer?
[01:48:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Was that?
[01:48:33] [SPEAKER_07]: It's the yak.
[01:48:35] Hey!
[01:48:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at them.
[01:48:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Three letters in each of those names.
[01:48:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[01:48:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And also,
[01:48:43] [SPEAKER_01]: yes.
[01:48:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Three letters in each name.
[01:48:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know,
[01:48:51] [SPEAKER_01]: he looks like an ox,
[01:48:51] [SPEAKER_01]: but he looks more like a yak.
[01:48:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And a yak is also built like an ox,
[01:48:54] [SPEAKER_01]: as Stephen Fishback would say.
[01:48:56] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:48:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay,
[01:48:58] [SPEAKER_01]: you are the last one for Rome.
[01:49:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
[01:49:01] [SPEAKER_01]: man.
[01:49:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You are in a position now.
[01:49:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Again,
[01:49:04] [SPEAKER_01]: you could do three points if you guess straight up.
[01:49:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[01:49:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You could get two points if you get the clue.
[01:49:11] [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[01:49:12] [SPEAKER_07]: So the animals we have left are the cormorant,
[01:49:15] [SPEAKER_07]: which is some sort of bird.
[01:49:18] [SPEAKER_05]: The conure?
[01:49:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Conure?
[01:49:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Conure.
[01:49:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Conure,
[01:49:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Conure,
[01:49:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Ibex,
[01:49:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Salmon.
[01:49:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Kinkajou.
[01:49:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And then the white tailed deer.
[01:49:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
[01:49:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Is all that.
[01:49:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh,
[01:49:29] [SPEAKER_05]: and then the kinkajou.
[01:49:30] [SPEAKER_05]: And the salmon.
[01:49:31] [SPEAKER_07]: I need a description because I don't know most of these animals' descriptions.
[01:49:36] [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[01:49:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Bold,
[01:49:37] [SPEAKER_01]: expressive,
[01:49:38] [SPEAKER_01]: uninhibited.
[01:49:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll do the Ibex.
[01:49:49] [SPEAKER_01]: That is wrong,
[01:49:51] [SPEAKER_01]: but good guess.
[01:49:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael Bloom for the steal.
[01:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: This has bird written on his name.
[01:49:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go.
[01:50:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I was waiting for you to say that statement.
[01:50:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say green sheep conure.
[01:50:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That is.
[01:50:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:50:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
[01:50:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Now,
[01:50:07] [SPEAKER_01]: you might be wondering,
[01:50:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and for all the losers out there who are like,
[01:50:11] [SPEAKER_01]: well,
[01:50:12] [SPEAKER_01]: well,
[01:50:12] [SPEAKER_01]: well,
[01:50:13] [SPEAKER_01]: how is this?
[01:50:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Why a conure?
[01:50:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Why not anything else?
[01:50:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[01:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: blah,
[01:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: blah,
[01:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: blah,
[01:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: blah,
[01:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: blah.
[01:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You clearly don't know a parrot individually.
[01:50:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[01:50:20] [SPEAKER_01]: this is not just a parrot.
[01:50:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The green cheek conure,
[01:50:23] [SPEAKER_01]: which if you recall back to season 43,
[01:50:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I also gave this to Cassidy,
[01:50:27] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think I would take it back for Cassidy.
[01:50:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I might give her a Quaker parrot instead in hindsight.
[01:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: However,
[01:50:33] [SPEAKER_01]: if you are going to look at the green cheek conure,
[01:50:37] [SPEAKER_01]: what is the number one bird that comes into the ER with a trauma and
[01:50:43] [SPEAKER_01]: specifically a trauma from another bird?
[01:50:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Because the green cheek conure is going to fuck around.
[01:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And then it finds out.
[01:50:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.
[01:50:55] [SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
[01:50:56] [SPEAKER_01]: They are the ones that will like pester the bigger bird.
[01:50:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And then when the bigger bird tops down,
[01:51:02] [SPEAKER_01]: they're in the ER and you're fixing.
[01:51:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That's funny.
[01:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That's incredible.
[01:51:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a classic conure.
[01:51:06] [SPEAKER_01]: They're always chit chatting.
[01:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: They have the biggest personality,
[01:51:09] [SPEAKER_01]: but they need to be a little bit more careful.
[01:51:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:51:14] [SPEAKER_02]: But what if the conure comes in and says,
[01:51:16] [SPEAKER_02]: well,
[01:51:16] [SPEAKER_02]: what you don't realize is the parrot said something actually that I can't
[01:51:19] [SPEAKER_02]: say it because it would get my beak chopped off.
[01:51:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But believe me,
[01:51:24] [SPEAKER_02]: it's something that was really bad.
[01:51:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[01:51:27] [SPEAKER_01]: fair point.
[01:51:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And they are quite chatty.
[01:51:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure that they are expressing that to me in the moment,
[01:51:32] [SPEAKER_01]: but I just cannot understand them.
[01:51:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I tell them,
[01:51:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey,
[01:51:36] [SPEAKER_01]: where's the footage?
[01:51:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they just squawk at me some more.
[01:51:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So I said,
[01:51:39] [SPEAKER_01]: well,
[01:51:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I can provide a list of the pecking order of all the other birds.
[01:51:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Classic conure.
[01:51:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes,
[01:51:47] [SPEAKER_01]: but very expressive,
[01:51:48] [SPEAKER_01]: very chatty bird,
[01:51:49] [SPEAKER_01]: very fun pet,
[01:51:50] [SPEAKER_01]: but they do need to be kept separate from other birds.
[01:51:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they will fuck themselves up for a cat or a dog.
[01:51:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's always the conure.
[01:51:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And actually there was,
[01:52:00] [SPEAKER_01]: there was one conure as well.
[01:52:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think this one was like Rome,
[01:52:04] [SPEAKER_01]: but what it would do is it would break out of its cage,
[01:52:07] [SPEAKER_01]: break into a cockatiel cage,
[01:52:09] [SPEAKER_01]: which is a smaller bird that is less,
[01:52:13] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:52:14] [SPEAKER_01]: defensive.
[01:52:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it doesn't have that many defenses because it's got a small beak
[01:52:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and it would break their legs.
[01:52:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And it broke,
[01:52:19] [SPEAKER_01]: it broke one cockatiel's legs and we had to fix it.
[01:52:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they didn't fix the situation.
[01:52:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And it broke into another cockatiel's cage and broke its leg.
[01:52:27] [SPEAKER_01]: What a dick.
[01:52:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they put a padlock that couldn't be,
[01:52:31] [SPEAKER_01]: you know,
[01:52:32] [SPEAKER_01]: after that,
[01:52:32] [SPEAKER_01]: they learned their lessons.
[01:52:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Do they attack out of just maliciousness for fun?
[01:52:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Like out of entertainment or is it for anything else?
[01:52:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just for fun.
[01:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to say.
[01:52:42] [SPEAKER_07]: It's for lols.
[01:52:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:52:44] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:52:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So even though we have a clear winner of Michael Bloom at 12,
[01:52:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Liana at eight,
[01:52:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay at six,
[01:52:51] [SPEAKER_01]: we are going to do a bonus question worth five points.
[01:52:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I think you just decided that.
[01:53:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Hell yeah.
[01:53:04] [SPEAKER_01]: For people who have watched this many a times,
[01:53:07] [SPEAKER_01]: we here at the BNB for the bird animal game,
[01:53:11] [SPEAKER_01]: we will always have a tiebreaker or bonus question based on the cloaca.
[01:53:15] [SPEAKER_01]: The cloaca is messy.
[01:53:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It's clean.
[01:53:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's everything all at once.
[01:53:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It's versatile.
[01:53:20] [SPEAKER_01]: There's poops.
[01:53:20] [SPEAKER_01]: There's urates.
[01:53:21] [SPEAKER_01]: There's eggs all coming out of one hole.
[01:53:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But cloaca does it all.
[01:53:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to play cloacally in survivor to win socially,
[01:53:28] [SPEAKER_01]: strategic and physical.
[01:53:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[01:53:30] [SPEAKER_02]: the more you tell you do this,
[01:53:31] [SPEAKER_02]: the more I'm like a little happy.
[01:53:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You weren't giving speeches as a juror in the final tribal council.
[01:53:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like,
[01:53:37] [SPEAKER_02]: actually the way we divide this up.
[01:53:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Survivor saved you.
[01:53:42] [SPEAKER_00]: man.
[01:53:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like realize how bad things could have gone if they met the real you
[01:53:46] [SPEAKER_00]: like fan favorite for the wrong.
[01:53:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But when the cloaca prolapses,
[01:53:53] [SPEAKER_01]: it means big trouble.
[01:53:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So last time we have asked about what season best represents the cloaca.
[01:53:59] [SPEAKER_01]: We've done which player best represents the cloaca.
[01:54:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But recently I went to Atlanta for an endoscopy course and I saw the cloaca in ways you could never imagine.
[01:54:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[01:54:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it unleashed a whole world of folds, textures, peaks, valleys.
[01:54:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I'm imagining you and a cloaca on a magic carpet ride with the use of that phrase.
[01:54:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Peaks and valleys you could never dream of.
[01:54:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You would never expect.
[01:54:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to dream of.
[01:54:26] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a nightmare.
[01:54:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I can show you the world.
[01:54:29] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what they say.
[01:54:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So which survivor's game, past or present,
[01:54:34] [SPEAKER_01]: best represents the cloaca in terms of having more layers and unexpected things than you could ever expect?
[01:54:41] [SPEAKER_01]: This could be from the perspective of the audience.
[01:54:43] [SPEAKER_01]: It could be the perspective of podcasters who expected one thing from a player and it went very differently.
[01:54:48] [SPEAKER_01]: This could be from the other players not knowing what they were dealing with until it was too late.
[01:54:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It could be any way that you want.
[01:54:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the person that I think exemplifies this this season would be Andy.
[01:54:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'd be curious to hear what your answers are.
[01:55:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I would judge the winner.
[01:55:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Based on your answer.
[01:55:05] [SPEAKER_02]: There might be an argument for Rachel as well of like,
[01:55:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, with no offense to Rachel,
[01:55:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think any of us assume that she would win three immunity challenges,
[01:55:12] [SPEAKER_02]: perhaps going on for that.
[01:55:14] [SPEAKER_02]: She would, you know,
[01:55:15] [SPEAKER_02]: be one of the only people in like the past four seasons to find an idol and keep it secret until the last minute.
[01:55:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Is this your answer?
[01:55:21] [SPEAKER_02]: No.
[01:55:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, all right.
[01:55:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[01:55:23] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, because we're already across 47 seasons.
[01:55:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So fair.
[01:55:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So who is ready and wants to go first?
[01:55:31] [SPEAKER_07]: I'll go first.
[01:55:32] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[01:55:32] [SPEAKER_07]: So obviously I'm being mainstream in my mind of what I know best.
[01:55:37] [SPEAKER_07]: So I'm going to go with my season and I'm going to say Marianne because I felt that this was truly true in the final decision during the jury vote of how much more I learned about Marianne during that ending.
[01:55:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Because I think that was for a lot of people that shifted their mind because we learned a lot more about Marianne in that final jury.
[01:55:57] [SPEAKER_07]: So I think she came off very young, naive, fun, excited, extremely smart, but kind of still getting her footing, kind of just eye open to the world and open to whatever.
[01:56:12] [SPEAKER_07]: And then also kind of has her like goofy self that she sticks true to.
[01:56:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Then as you learn more, then of course, there's that vulnerable side where she realizes she's on the bottom and then that's hard for her and how she has to kind of lower herself in the grand scheme of things due to other people around her.
[01:56:31] [SPEAKER_07]: But then at the end, you realize not only was she already incredibly smart, but she's extremely more advanced and older in her mind than we gave her credit for with the demise of how calculated she was with every step.
[01:56:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Even though she looked and was pushed to the side, she was using that as a perfect view to look at each single individual threat and see how they were eating each other, letting them do that.
[01:56:56] [SPEAKER_07]: And understanding that she had a lot more moves to make depending on who somebody and making sure the orchestration still looked good for her to win at the end.
[01:57:05] [SPEAKER_07]: And I think she did a very good job of explaining that in a way that I don't think anyone even has the capacity to understand as a player, let alone what they gave her credit for for her as a player.
[01:57:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That was beautiful. She's a big old cloaca and, you know, very vulnerable moment when the egg is laying into the cloaca.
[01:57:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's very intimate. So I like that. All right. Next.
[01:57:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. I don't know how anybody can follow that up. That was such a clean, amazing argument.
[01:57:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll, I'll get my logic. So my gut reaction was Gabler, right? Like he, Oh, interesting.
[01:57:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Exemplifies this in both from the audience's perspective, because I think to counter Marianne, like from a narrative perspective, at least in the last couple episodes, you could see Marianne winning a who expected Gabler to win.
[01:57:52] [SPEAKER_00]: The fact that Rob goes back and does essentially a post-season deep dive on, let me explain why Gabe, like how can we figure out how Gabler won?
[01:58:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's evidence there that he spent, you know, an hour or two getting into to like take apart all of the reasons why Gabler was the one who ended up winning.
[01:58:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that if you go back, you kind of write him off early, right? Because Gabler is the one who's putting palm fronds on top of people randomly to try to keep them warm.
[01:58:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But even as Lindsay mentioned in this own podcast, he kind of like figured out this issue was able to correct it.
[01:58:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And then ultimately ends up being able to make his argument to the jury by sticking with, look, these are the things that I own.
[01:58:33] [SPEAKER_00]: These are the things that I did. He doesn't try to oversell his game. He doesn't want to say, Oh, I claimed that I did this when, you know, I didn't actually hear the things that I did clearly articulates his strategy.
[01:58:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to go with Gabler.
[01:58:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Michael.
[01:58:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Gentleman of the jury.
[01:58:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's take a step back in time.
[01:58:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Almost 10 years ago, the spring of 2015.
[01:58:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So we are eagerly waiting with bated breath as I'm sure was much more held in the audience of the CBS studio Radford lot as many hopeful second chance castaways await their chance of getting another opportunity to win a million dollars on Survivor.
[01:59:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And even though this person was voted on, perhaps from Lindsay's poltergeist perspective, it might have been a bit of a question mark.
[01:59:24] [SPEAKER_02]: This person was voted off in episode five.
[01:59:28] [SPEAKER_02]: This person was barely visible and was often conflated with another blonde young woman on the other tribe.
[01:59:34] [SPEAKER_02]: This person was arguably swap screwed and only voted off because of her connection with her dad.
[01:59:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Why should Kelly Wentworth be given a second chance on Survivor?
[01:59:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And you would say within the entirety of that season, but you could even argue within that very first episode.
[01:59:50] [SPEAKER_02]: She immediately proved that there are more layers underneath.
[01:59:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It has gone forward to prove as the adage moving forward as Survivor prognosticators, as experts, as fans, that we can look at a cast of Survivor and no matter how anyone does, we can say, well, if given a proper opportunity on another season in a different cast, in a different format, maybe they could be the Kelly Wentworth.
[02:00:10] [SPEAKER_02]: They could be somebody to spin straw into gold, much like the straw colored hair that she fashes on the top of her head.
[02:00:16] [SPEAKER_02]: To find idols, play them, to have for the longest time the most volts nullified against you in a single evening record, you know, contributing to an iconic moment, showing that a second season run can make you truly a legend of the game, considering how far she came from Samandil Sor to Cambodia.
[02:00:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But even further than that, she was able to prove an edge of extinction, becoming a returnee, a little bit of a different shade to herself.
[02:00:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. She was a little bit more combative, a little bit more emotional, was actually able to be in power for the first time in her game, but was still able to showcase a lot of complexities therein.
[02:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm even going to look outside of the screen to perhaps the second screen, because for those of you that are not in the know, you should follow Kelly Wentworth on social media because she has really come across as this big Survivor content creator in season 47.
[02:01:09] [SPEAKER_02]: She's doing these excellent weekly TikTok recreations of big scenes that are happening in the episode, whether it's, you know, Rome falling down the well, whether it's Andy chopping over the coconut, etc.
[02:01:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And that to me, as much as I love Kelly was a little bit of a different layer, too.
[02:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I did not realize that she could be that goofy, could be that comedic, could be that creative, even outside of like the sneaky, sneaky, memetic moments.
[02:01:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It's still a new side that we are seeing of this woman, even nearly a decade after she has come to prominence for that many reasons and more.
[02:01:43] [SPEAKER_02]: That's why I think Kelly Wentworth best represents the layered aspects that the Kowaka contains therein.
[02:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Very, you know what? Very good answers all across the board.
[02:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a very tough choice to choose the winner.
[02:01:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that.
[02:02:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I will have to rule out Mother here because while Gabler is a good answer,
[02:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure the microscopic view of the game illuminated much more or answered as many questions as I would have wanted.
[02:02:15] [SPEAKER_01]: With Kelly Wentworth, I also believe that this is a very well-rounded answer.
[02:02:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of the things that she did were on macroscopic view.
[02:02:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But the argument could be made that with her first game, it was so hidden.
[02:02:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And the prophecy that Drew Christie put forth, maybe he was the endoscope.
[02:02:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Drew was the Kowaka reader.
[02:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he was the Kowaka reader. He knew.
[02:02:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's very tough to choose between Kelly Wentworth and Marianne.
[02:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I am going to have to give it to Marianne, though.
[02:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And Lindsay, because.
[02:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, history repeats itself.
[02:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It's great, I know. It tells me to do it again, you know.
[02:02:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But I feel that when she illuminated the magnification of her game,
[02:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: it really sold the whole audience.
[02:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And the people sitting right there who did not expect to hear some of those things that came out.
[02:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that was the most hidden of the games that was illuminated in some grand gesture.
[02:03:16] [SPEAKER_01]: A grand way.
[02:03:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So that is five points for Lindsay.
[02:03:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But not enough to catch Mike at 12.
[02:03:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay now is at 11.
[02:03:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Mother is at 8.
[02:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But a great showing across the board.
[02:03:29] [SPEAKER_02]: This honestly might be like the highest scoring version.
[02:03:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so much better this time.
[02:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It was fun.
[02:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed this kind of game.
[02:03:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my goodness.
[02:03:37] [SPEAKER_02]: This was so great, Omer.
[02:03:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for truly representing how the animal kingdom is as layered as a Kowaka as well.
[02:03:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, there was one more slide.
[02:03:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there was?
[02:03:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so sorry.
[02:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a summary slide.
[02:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, look at all of them.
[02:03:52] [SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.
[02:03:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's Anika and her duck, you know.
[02:03:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the Anika duck.
[02:03:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Now we get to see it, yeah.
[02:03:57] [SPEAKER_02]: The duck-a-ka shows his face.
[02:03:59] Yes, yes.
[02:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[02:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[02:04:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, to finish things off here as we do at the end of every B&B podcast,
[02:04:05] [SPEAKER_02]: we give an opportunity to our guests to highlight a charity or cause that is important to them.
[02:04:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Lindsay, I'll give Omer a break from talking for a second because I know he did a lot there.
[02:04:15] [SPEAKER_02]: What would you like to highlight for the audience out there?
[02:04:19] [SPEAKER_07]: This is just one of like a personal friend that I know.
[02:04:21] [SPEAKER_07]: I might have said it in one of the ones before.
[02:04:23] [SPEAKER_07]: It was called The Iron Girl Project.
[02:04:24] [SPEAKER_07]: So it was a close family friend who lost her daughter in her sleep.
[02:04:32] [SPEAKER_07]: She didn't understand what the cause was.
[02:04:33] [SPEAKER_07]: She was 17, but she was very well known.
[02:04:36] [SPEAKER_07]: She played lacrosse and was a very great sportsmanship, a great sport.
[02:04:41] [SPEAKER_07]: So the whole charity is based off of raising money for those.
[02:04:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Sorry, I'm botching this.
[02:04:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, people in high school who want to have a scholarship, um, for college,
[02:04:54] [SPEAKER_07]: but it's who is showing the best sportsmanship,
[02:04:56] [SPEAKER_07]: who's the best leader on and off the field,
[02:04:58] [SPEAKER_07]: who is someone where they can just bring everyone up in a way that just shows positivity.
[02:05:03] [SPEAKER_07]: And I thought that was a really nice cause that doesn't really get highlighted enough
[02:05:06] [SPEAKER_07]: in high school of just things that really showcase what a good person is.
[02:05:10] [SPEAKER_07]: So I thought that's a nice one.
[02:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Amazing.
[02:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Omer, what about you?
[02:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Can I do two?
[02:05:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, of course.
[02:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That was wonderful, Lindsay.
[02:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I will do one like local charity and then one grander scale.
[02:05:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, for the grander scale, um, I would say the PCRF,
[02:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: the Palestinian Children's Relief Fund.
[02:05:27] [SPEAKER_01]: They're in need of a lot of, um, help, unfortunately.
[02:05:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that that would be a good one for people to consider.
[02:05:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And then for a local charity, um, uh, last time I did wild Ontario,
[02:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: but this time I'm going to, which was birds.
[02:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to this time do rabbits, you know?
[02:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So Pumpkin Acres, uh, Rabbit Rescue is a local rabbit rescue here.
[02:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: They're inundated with rabbit surrenders.
[02:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and a lot of these rabbits have a lot of medical needs, which I try to take care of.
[02:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but it is, they do a lot of really great work trying to keep rabbits, um, healthy and happy
[02:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: and adopt them out and, um, give them the best quality of life that they can have.
[02:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But because many of them are sick, that is quite expensive.
[02:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And also just the volume of rabbits that are surrendered, especially around Easter time
[02:06:16] [SPEAKER_01]: is a lot.
[02:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so they can always use some help.
[02:06:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's Pumpkin Acres Rabbit Rescue in Ontario.
[02:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, just like the great work that you said they did, you did great work as per usual,
[02:06:28] [SPEAKER_02]: not only bringing your, uh, sterling opinions to talking about the season so far and the end game,
[02:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: but of course, one of my favorite things we get to do every season on the B&B,
[02:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: which is when you, we always go above and beyond the call of duty with these animals.
[02:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It is far and away the most educational podcast we get to do twice a year.
[02:06:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So thank you as always, Omer, for coming on.
[02:06:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Anything you'd like to plug for the listeners out there?
[02:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: No.
[02:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: The most shaky, fractured voice.
[02:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: If you have an exotic pet in Southern Ontario and you need veterinary care,
[02:07:05] [SPEAKER_01]: you can come see me.
[02:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm also a blue sky now, I guess that's a thing.
[02:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll make this be your audio and video business card if you'd like.
[02:07:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[02:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[02:07:14] [SPEAKER_02]: What about you, Lindsay?
[02:07:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay has a great business.
[02:07:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[02:07:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[02:07:17] [SPEAKER_07]: So, um, if anyone's looking for nutrition counseling, whether that is for their personal
[02:07:21] [SPEAKER_07]: help, whether it's medical or not, um, food is fun.
[02:07:25] [SPEAKER_07]: I love food.
[02:07:25] [SPEAKER_07]: There's nothing, there should be no scare tactics against it.
[02:07:27] [SPEAKER_07]: No villainizing food, all good things, but ways to be able to just enhance your health
[02:07:32] [SPEAKER_07]: and understand why food is so important.
[02:07:34] [SPEAKER_07]: And I take insurance.
[02:07:35] [SPEAKER_07]: So if anyone is looking for this help, it is something that is a right that everyone
[02:07:40] [SPEAKER_07]: has to learn.
[02:07:41] [SPEAKER_07]: It's not a luxury expense.
[02:07:42] [SPEAKER_07]: So I do that effort and fighting with insurance, there's much of a pain in the ass it is because
[02:07:46] [SPEAKER_07]: everyone deserves to be able to learn more about their health.
[02:07:48] [SPEAKER_07]: And I would love to help.
[02:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you do that remotely to people that are not local?
[02:07:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[02:07:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you for asking.
[02:07:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I do virtual.
[02:07:55] [SPEAKER_07]: So there is in-person or virtual options and it's called absolute nutrition counseling.
[02:08:00] [SPEAKER_07]: And you could just put an absolute nutrition counseling.com and you'll find me on the
[02:08:03] [SPEAKER_07]: front.
[02:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And I had one from Lindsay and nutritional consult remotely.
[02:08:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So I do advise it.
[02:08:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Now is the ghost part of your company or does it just come with on the consultations?
[02:08:16] [SPEAKER_07]: It's becoming a mascot, but I don't always like to listen to the poltergeist because I
[02:08:21] [SPEAKER_07]: don't think it always has a great read because then the people start to feel uncomfortable.
[02:08:25] [SPEAKER_07]: So sometimes I put them away.
[02:08:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Not going to lie.
[02:08:27] [SPEAKER_02]: If I was looking for a nutritionist and their mascot was a ghost, I would certainly be intrigued
[02:08:32] [SPEAKER_02]: to inquire further.
[02:08:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You know?
[02:08:36] [SPEAKER_07]: What if Halloween is my favorite holiday?
[02:08:38] [SPEAKER_07]: So we could just say that that's more what it's leaning towards, not as a negative against
[02:08:42] [SPEAKER_07]: you as if there's a demon waiting.
[02:08:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Or could it be like a cautionary tale?
[02:08:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, I didn't have enough calcium.
[02:08:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And this is what happens to me.
[02:08:51] [SPEAKER_08]: I can pay attention to my health and have water so important.
[02:08:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[02:08:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like the opposite of Jared from Subway.
[02:08:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[02:08:59] [SPEAKER_02]: In many ways.
[02:09:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Liana, anything you'd like to plug?
[02:09:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.
[02:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Messinger, we're closing out our final season.
[02:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So we just did the penultimate episode and then we're going to be doing the finale this
[02:09:11] [SPEAKER_00]: coming week and also Traders US is going to be starting up with a brand new season.
[02:09:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And so Pouya has been going through every single person who's going to be on the cast
[02:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and doing sort of a preseason get to know this person, especially because we're connecting
[02:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: so many different universes from Survivor to Drag Race to the Housewives, putting them
[02:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: all together, including I think Britney Spears' ex is on this season.
[02:09:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So obviously we got to do a preseason podcast on them.
[02:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing Bob the Drag Queen.
[02:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So that will be out in the all of the preseason Traders coverage.
[02:09:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll be I'm doing one as well.
[02:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to say what it is, but I mean, I'll be intrigued to see if people can guess
[02:09:49] [SPEAKER_02]: what are you doing?
[02:09:51] [SPEAKER_00]: The Lord isn't there like a.
[02:09:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So I talked with Wendy and Genevieve this week in Parade.
[02:09:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Very fun.
[02:10:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And I loved getting to speak with the two of them.
[02:10:03] [SPEAKER_02]: They are, again, such big personalities and such big players of the season.
[02:10:07] [SPEAKER_02]: So getting to hear a bit of their perspectives as to they're like very similar, yet incredibly
[02:10:11] [SPEAKER_02]: different journeys was so great.
[02:10:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And of course, you know, once the finale comes around, I'll have interviews with the final
[02:10:16] [SPEAKER_02]: four as well, in addition to all the other stuff that I am doing over here on Rockets
[02:10:20] [SPEAKER_02]: podcast.
[02:10:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll also be on Club Condo tomorrow night with Rob and Chappelle.
[02:10:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So if you're not sick and tired of me talking Survivor nonsense, there'll be plenty of more
[02:10:27] [SPEAKER_02]: of that into assumingly coming tomorrow.
[02:10:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we're doing that at like 7 p.m.
[02:10:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Eastern live for people to check out.
[02:10:35] [SPEAKER_02]: The last thing I'll say is, you know, the good thing about a two part finale is that we
[02:10:39] [SPEAKER_02]: get the chance to do the B&B one more week.
[02:10:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And we are very excited to be welcoming this guy back from the Washington Post TikTok, Dave
[02:10:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Jorgensen.
[02:10:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we began the season with a notable internet media personality going the way of
[02:10:55] [SPEAKER_02]: the Dodo and we're bringing one back for the finale here.
[02:10:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Excited to get Dave's thoughts on this season.
[02:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure we'll break down no matter how much the outcome may be written in the stars, everything
[02:11:05] [SPEAKER_02]: that happened in this two hour period, hopefully manifesting Lindsay's extended jury time.
[02:11:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure there'll be plenty of stuff to talk about with the after show as well.
[02:11:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe looking ahead to Survivor 48.
[02:11:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Plenty of stuff to still get into Leon and I still have to get into our predictions on
[02:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: the final four as well.
[02:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So there's still lots of stuff to do.
[02:11:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And thank you all so much for listening as usual.
[02:11:25] [SPEAKER_02]: We do have one more week for games.
[02:11:26] [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to suggest them, email us, send them to us on social media, RHAP, B&B and the
[02:11:32] [SPEAKER_02]: like.
[02:11:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Happy to utilize them depending on what the idea is.
[02:11:35] [SPEAKER_02]: But regardless, we'll be back to close all of this up to, I suppose, squeeze out the
[02:11:42] [SPEAKER_02]: bore sack and, you know, be able to clean out season 47 as we move ahead into 2025.
[02:11:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you all so much.
[02:11:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Omer, Lindsay, thank you both.
[02:11:51] [SPEAKER_02]: This was such a great time.
[02:11:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Hope you all enjoyed it as well.
[02:11:54] [SPEAKER_02]: A two plus hour podcast for a two hour episode.
[02:11:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And we've got another one coming for you next week.
[02:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Special thanks to everyone behind the scenes at RHAP for making sure this podcast is packaged
[02:12:03] [SPEAKER_02]: for your eyes and ears and welcome America for his incredible theme song.
[02:12:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Liana and I will be back next week with Dave Jorgensen and breaking down the ending of Survivor
[02:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: 47.
[02:12:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Until next time, everybody, we'll check you out at your next day.
[02:12:16] [SPEAKER_08]: Mike and Liana gather playing some games.
[02:12:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Better pray to your mama that they're not super lame.
[02:12:24] [SPEAKER_09]: And if that all sounds cool, I can tell you the name.
[02:12:42] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm safe for-