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[00:02:28] Rated PG. Hey everybody, what's going on? Rob Cesternino, we're back and this is Co-Fing. The show is now available on Disney+. Survivor Co-Wrong and we are here to talk about episode number two of Survivor Co-Wrong and I'm back here with a man who says, Jennifer Lanzetti, stand up. That's right.

[00:02:58] It's Chappelle. Chappelle, how are you? I'm great. I'm great. I'm happy. I thought of you. Stand up, Jennifer. It's so crazy because when she did it, I remember in the real time being like, no, sit down. Please sit down. What are you doing? Put your seatbelt on. What? You're not allowed to get up from the ride. Oh my God. Please sit down. I don't know where Jennifer Lanzetti is right now, but I mean, there are worse Survivor legacies to leave and this is, make no mistake, an iconic moment in Survivor history whether

[00:03:27] we like it or not. Yeah. An epic second person out of the show and it was a night that we won't forget. I mean, she had the bug thing. She had the standing up at Tribal Council. I kind of had forgotten about how badly she really just gets herself voted out. Like she was 0% getting voted out and then she goes to make a big move. And then she continues like just to bury herself, right? Like she did this to herself.

[00:03:56] She had the numbers up until the moment she got voted out. Like even when she's, when she stands up, she's talking to the wrong people. She's begging Scott and Jason not to betray her. I'm thinking you don't need them. Sydney's right there who obviously didn't want Darnell to go last time. Maybe she's a little salty about that. I don't know. And then Alicia's right there, but she's throwing Alicia under the bus. She's like, we all hate her, right? Let's just get her out. Like Jennifer focus sit down, sit down. She just completely.

[00:04:24] Yeah, this is, I told you the gameplay so far episode one. And now episode two, I'm like, what are these people even doing? Yeah, it's wild. It's wild. And we see a lot with the brawn tribe here tonight or tonight. Like it was tonight for us. It was 10 years ago for everybody else, but it was very, very exciting to watch this epic meltdown. A flame out, a true flame out. Yeah, no, it was good.

[00:04:53] And we, I mean, up until, like you said, we get through the challenge and we get confessionals from Scott and Jason being like, there's no way anybody's going home except Alicia. It's gotta be her. It would be crazy if anybody flipped. And Jennifer just went and did everything wrong and basically begged them to vote her out. They really didn't have a choice at some point. Yeah, she's such a mysterious person in survivor history. I don't think we've ever heard from her once in the 10 years from this. But she is from Salt Lake City.

[00:05:21] And so it came up on, I listened to the live show. We did the know-it-alls live that night. It was an in-person know-it-alls after the episode in Los Angeles. And there was some talk about that Jonas was a fan. Jonas Atsuji was a fan of Jennifer Lanzetti because they knew each other from Utah. Oh, okay. I was reading her bio and she cites Kim Spratt.

[00:05:50] Yeah, I think she maybe has only seen Survivor One World. I think so. I think so. Especially with how she reacted to this moment of wanting to get Alicia to flip on the guys. It's just like she just went along about it the entire wrong way from beginning to end. Yep. And so it was just a tough night all around for Jennifer Lanzetti, unfortunately. And that's it. We'll never hear from her again. Ever. Ever.

[00:06:17] Like literally, I mean, no one's seen her at a live show. I've never seen anybody take a photo with Jennifer Lanzetti. Jennifer Lanzetti, if you're out there, come back to us. Come back to Survivor. Let's see what you got to say about the new era. Yeah. She stands up at Tribal Council and makes her big speech to the group. Has anybody else ever, in the history of the show, in 50 Seasons, has anybody else ever stood on any of the things at Tribal?

[00:06:42] Now, when I get eliminated in Survivor or the Amazon, we are standing up on a thing at Tribal Council, but it is not the actual seats that you sit in at Tribal Council. Yeah. I have to imagine Jeff doesn't love this, right? Like, don't stand on the props. We don't want you to ruin anything. We don't want you to break anything. But Jennifer, she was making an impassioned plea. Another thing I saw her invoke in her bio is her inspiration in life. Have you seen this? I did.

[00:07:12] I wrote her bio open, yes. Yes. Martin Luther King Jr., when he spoke, the whole world stopped to listen. So I think she was kind of feeling the spirit of MLK. Yes. Maybe this is her, I had a dream of, this is why we should all four come together and vote out Alicia. Oh my God. Sometimes this show is really fun. And I think in that moment, it's probably, you know, it's probably a super traumatic moment for her. I know she probably didn't think her survivor dream was going to come to an end like that.

[00:07:42] Even in the moment, watching it is kind of like a train wreck. But years later, I'm able to look back and be like, isn't this crazy that this happened? You know, if there's a compilation of the wildest things that happened on Survivor, it's such a small moment. But it really does play well on TV. Yeah. Let's wind it back to how we got there with Jennifer Lanzetti. Isn't this crazy? Here's how we got here. So they end up, everybody hates Alicia.

[00:08:07] The whole episode is everybody just crapping on Alicia and even the editors. She's getting the Dodo edit. She's getting the Dodo music. They're talking about how stupid she is, that she talks about how to make the fire, they just need an embryo. Yeah. Just an embryo. Because that's all it takes sometimes. Just an embryo. Yes. Yeah. She's as confused as everybody else is and why she's still in the game. And I still don't know.

[00:08:36] Now, if fire represents your life, I mean, is she wrong that you need an embryo to start the fire? Well, I asked you a question to answer your question. Who made the fire in this episode? She did. Okay. Well, look, there you go. Yeah. Roof is in the pudding. Yeah. So she does prove her worth. She's having like a little bit of a comeback story. She has a great reaction when Jennifer Lanzetti gets voted out. Did you catch her like celebration? No. What does she do?

[00:09:06] Like, she's like, yeah. And then she's like sticking her tongue out. Ah. She's doing the Chappelle face. Good for her. Good for her. I mean, it really was Jennifer playing so badly and Alicia playing the best she could possibly play, right? They already hate her. So she went and made herself useful. She made the fire. But then when Jennifer is burying herself, Alicia's like, wow, man, it's crazy. It sounds like Alicia of Jennings is up to something, you know? Like she doesn't, she doesn't panic.

[00:09:34] She doesn't get up and start whispering in people's ears. She doesn't throw, she's not standing on the thing. She's like, no, I didn't come to you with an all girls alliance. That was you. You know, that doesn't even sound like something I would do, honestly. And why wouldn't you? You know, like she really just plays it as coy as possible. Yeah. And so I think when this happens, it does feel like a massive stroke for her. They're trying to gaslight her at tribal council because it's really Jennifer who comes to Alicia. She says she's tired of Jason sitting around the shelter all day complaining about Alicia.

[00:10:04] And so she says, hey, let's talk. What's the most important thing to do in the game of survivor? And Alicia's like, be honest. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, not that good bit. Win the challenges. No, no, no, no, no. The third most important thing. Yeah. You got to get out the big threats. Yeah. You know, it's again, it just a wild decision from Jennifer. Why are you going to Alicia with this information?

[00:10:29] You should start with Sydney and say, Sydney, how do you feel about these guys talking so much trash about Alicia? They talk trash about us too. I know they do. I heard them talking trash about you. Wouldn't it be crazy if the two of us got Alicia and voted one of them out just as far Darnell? No, she goes to the person at the bottom and tells her, I want to save you. Now, you know, I think years of years of watching survivor, you know, we know you don't go tell

[00:10:55] the cage tiger, you know, that you're like the person at the bottom that you're just handing them your game, you know, by telling them what you want to do. Cause now Alicia has ammunition to use against you. Luckily Alicia doesn't need to because Jennifer will go and use that ammunition on herself. But I just thought she played this all wrong. I think that there's a little bit of a subtext here that I don't think is actually on the screen, but let me float this theory by you that I said yesterday that Kyle Jason, he felt closer to Sydney.

[00:11:25] He didn't want Darnell there. He wanted Sydney all to himself. That's like his person. Scott's person is Jennifer. So yes, Jennifer doesn't want Scott to go home. Uh, she doesn't want it to like give Sydney the choice because Sydney is going to pick that. It's going to be Scott who goes home. Sydney wants to keep Jason. Does Jennifer know? Okay. Well, for let me, if we get first get Alicia on board and then sort of like, oh, it's

[00:11:52] a women's alliance and we're going to take out Jason. Does she feel like, cause then I do feel like what happens and we don't see it on the episode is that I think Sydney 100% completely throws Jennifer under the bus to Jason. Like, I don't even think that's debatable. We don't see it, but that's definitely what happened. Yeah. If you put it like that for sure. Um, Sydney's like my ally is about to go, but if I'm Jennifer, what difference does it make if you get Alicia? Because you're about to piss off.

[00:12:19] If you're trying to keep Scott, you're about to piss him off anyway by doing this, right? Like you're going to make him mad. Yeah. So it's not like, you know, just let Sydney pick, go to Sydney and be like, Hey, I want one of these boys out, let her pick. And then at least you have control of the tribe. Don't you want to be in the numbers? And Jennifer also probably doesn't know that Sydney is tightest with Jason. She probably is oblivious to that. She probably knows that she wants to keep Scott and probably isn't aware that there's

[00:12:47] a Sydney and Jason thing that it's not, it's going to be a non-starter for Sydney. She's not going to vote out Jason at this tribal council. Yeah. And then the episode painted like Sydney kind of finds out at the last minute. It isn't very confused. And there's even the moment when Jennifer starts to blow up her own game at tribal council, you get this big reaction for Sydney kind of like, well, girl, what are you doing? It feels like if Sydney was in on it, then she quickly was like, nevermind. I can't, I can't work. Yeah. Everybody was. And even she's like, no, I was joking. That wasn't a thing.

[00:13:17] I wasn't really trying to do that. It was Alicia's idea. She was coming to me with it. Is it my fault that I care about people and that I want to see people happy? And I was trying to give her a good, happy moment. Yeah. We've heard this one before and it never works. I was just trying to give her a good day. Okay. Just like if your dog is sick and you're going to go take the dog to go see Omer and you go to Burger King on the way there, you're just trying to give them something nice before ultimately they have to go.

[00:13:45] Why should we be punished? Because this woman wants to do something nice. And so, yeah, she's telling everybody cause it's her, it's her who brings up the entire plan at tribal council, at least from what we see when she's there, she's like, yeah, some things were floated around some ideas or, you know, they're like, what ideas? She's like, Oh, you know, just thoughts were had, uh, plans were thrown about because there's only five people. If you're an alliance of four, who is throwing out the plans?

[00:14:15] Jennifer, please elaborate. And then she's like, it was you, Alicia. You did it. Wait, nope, too late, too late to back out of this one. She should have just stuck with what she was going to do or at least be quiet about it. Chappelle, I want to go back to something that, you know, 10 years ago, people that watch this episode and they talked about like, it was she okay? Did she had a, a incident where there was a worm that went into her ear and people made a joke.

[00:14:45] Like, uh, these people, uh, they try to be funny and they're like, did the, did the insect do any damage. But since that time I heard a story about a guy who said that he had a, a worm in his brain that ate parts of his brain. And there was, and then it made it that he couldn't even remember some things that happened.

[00:15:10] And this is that this was like in court that this person said this. So I don't know. This sounds like, like, and this is like a scientific person. Mm hmm. Somebody like who really matters. Mm hmm. Somebody who like, who, who has like a high, like a, I guess a serious person. So yeah, like a, like a, like a, like a big title or something like that. Yeah. I've heard something like this. Yeah. Uh, a brawny brain in fact.

[00:15:39] And so, um, it's interesting, right? I guess it could, it's possible. Yeah. Just like a little yerk just went in there and like started to do weird stuff like an anamorph. Um, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what was happening with that worm, but, uh, whatever it did, I'm happy it did it because otherwise I think Jennifer Lanzetti, she might have gotten further in the, in the game, but I don't, I don't, based on how she handled adversity in this episode, I don't think she would have won.

[00:16:07] So I think this is probably the most entertaining, uh, exit we get from her. Yeah. It wasn't going to go great for her. Um, the brawn tribe is really, we're starting to see the Scott and Jason. Are we calling him Jason or Kyle? What are we going to do? I think we had to call them. Yeah. We had to call him, uh, was Jason cause it was Scott Jason. And then we had to call the other guy and the guy was like, call me Kyle, but my name is Kyle Jason.

[00:16:35] It was a very weird year for casting too. They didn't have to do this like that. They didn't have to do that. But okay. So Scott and Jason, they're really, they're really hitting it off. But you know, Jason is so down on Alicia that, uh, he is calling her a ditz. He called her a ditz and a half. I think he called her a flightless bird. He said, you're an ostrich. You're a bird. They can't fly. So we got to get rid of you. I was like, dear God, you know, again, he loves me on that one. I didn't really follow what he was trying to say. If you're a bird who doesn't fly.

[00:17:05] I guess if you're a bird that doesn't fly, we can't, we can't use you. I mean, but that's really disrespectful to ostrich. Omer would not like that. No, as a, as an emu guy, I believe, uh, also a flightless bird. Um, Omer is a bit of a bird himself. So yeah, I don't think he loves these two people. Yeah. And it's seeming like that the Braun tribe is going to be, they're talking about maybe they're the worst tribe ever. Now I wouldn't go that far. I mean, they are not early. Yeah.

[00:17:35] It's early. They've lost the first two challenges, but it's been close. Yeah. It's been close. And again, they're making weird decisions for like a group that wants to keep winning challenges. You voted out Darnell over Alicia and now you vote now Jennifer over Alicia. You know, if you really want to win and you're saying that this woman is dumb and useless and not strong, then what? You know, keeping her around is going to do what for you.

[00:17:59] And this was the most brawny tribe, I think, or most brawny challenge that I think you could have gotten. It was basically the challenge was like carry a telephone pole and like get it through the maze. There was no puzzle element at the end. It was do a slingshot. You would think that Scott Pollard would have had that done, but they end up coming up short. If only you hadn't voted out the strong guy, you know?

[00:18:24] And again, they're doing this because they're like, oh, we can either drag Alicia to the end or she's not a threat. So let's get rid of these threats. And I want Sydney to myself. But if there's a tribe swap, you know, like at the third boot or something like that, then do you think Alicia is going to stay with you? That lady's jumping ship the first chance she gets. So it's like, are you really even doing yourself any favors keeping her around? Yeah, I don't think she should have listened to them. It's not going to be like a Russell Natalie type thing. Right.

[00:18:52] And then she's going to jump ship immediately because it wouldn't be hard. They don't want her. It's not even like it's not like she's in an alliance with them. She's on the bottom. She knows it. They know it. What do they think is going to happen by keeping this woman around and talking trash about her? She knows they're talking trash about her. I'm sure Jennifer Lanzetti went and told her everything they were saying. Yeah. Let me ask you a couple questions about the tribal council because I'm a little confused. So the last tribal council was a three, three split.

[00:19:22] It was a weird three, three split. And then ultimately they all end up voting for Darnell here. Jennifer gets three votes. It's Alicia. It's Sydney and it's Jason. But Alicia still gets two. Jennifer and Scott. Did Scott say, hey, I can't vote for my friend Jennifer? Is that why? Or do you think that they were trying to split the idol maybe? I don't know. But I mean, that's the thing. Like, did they think Jennifer had the idol all of a sudden? You know, I don't know.

[00:19:51] This is the second time they basically put Alicia on a split and then didn't vote her out. You know, it's very weird. I think it was probably more that Jennifer and Scott were close. And I think that Scott didn't want to vote out Jennifer. Now, look, I know this isn't the new era, but how many days has it been for you to be that close to where you'll never vote out Jennifer? Was it day five or six? God, I mean, I know. Look, five days in Survivor must be a year of my life because you're already at the point where you won't write this woman's name down. Day six.

[00:20:20] I guess if this was a new era, it'd be day three. Okay. And I wouldn't stand it. So then Scott Pollard votes for Alicia. He votes for Ale in quotes, Ale Isha. What is he going for? Is he calling her a drunk? No. Do you remember? I know.

[00:20:49] I remember this because I'm a weirdo and I laugh at stupid shit. Okay. So hear me out. During that season of Big Brother, Taylor Hale season of Big Brother, and they had the BB comics. Yeah. Do you remember Amira's BB comics? No. What was she? It was a beer-a. It was just a drink and beer. What is not even clever? It's just a thing of rhymes.

[00:21:17] She's like, ah, we'll just give her some beer. Close enough. Yeah. Ale Isha. Perfect BB comic. Perfect BB comic. Good BB. Ale Isha is iconic. I don't care what nobody says. Yeah, maybe. Was she like a party person? Is that one of the reasons why they didn't respect her? Is she a bartender? Like, what did, why would you say this? Yeah, what was her job? She's a real estate agent. Ale Isha. Old drunkard.

[00:21:47] I'm pretty sure. A-L-E. And he has it in quotes. Yeah, that's the problem. Cause her name is spelled A-L-E. But I mean, the quotes really make you have to, you have to wonder, why are you doing this? Ale Isha. Yeah. Okay. So, we'll never, we'll never know. I guess we'll never know. We'll never know. Membership means more with American Express Business Gold.

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[00:23:41] How about a creamy mocha frappuccino drink? Or a sweet vanilla. Smooth caramel maybe. Or white chocolate mocha. Whichever you choose, delicious coffee awaits. Find Starbucks frappuccino drinks wherever you buy your groceries. Let's talk about our other tribes. And we had a lot of drama on the brains tribe. So let's talk about the beauty tribe and what's going on here. And you know, I don't know if I had this thought at the time.

[00:24:09] I really do feel like that the Caleb Beast Mode Cowboy really feels like trying to run the Frankie Grande, Zach Rance playbook here. With Ty Trang. What did I say? They are doing this just to piss off Frankie. This is all a ruse. They only did this because Frankie has been applying for Survivor for roughly 15 years. And it's his turn.

[00:24:39] He should have been on there. And so yeah, now we got Caleb and Ty doing the same thing that we've seen before in Big Brother. But we do this in Survivor too. Rich and Rudy, you know, they love the odd couple kind of. Sure, it's the odd couple, but Rudy was not the same. He was tolerant of Richard at best. Yeah.

[00:25:04] You know, Chappelle, you know, I don't even know what gay baiting is. Okay. But that you never see me doing that with Rich. He's not my type. Believe me. Okay. This is closer to what Kent and Bunky, if anything. So yeah, it's so if you didn't see the episode where we get a lot with Ty with trying to find the idol, we can talk about that next.

[00:25:33] But yeah, they're really talking about the bromance between Ty and Caleb. And then I think that Ty obviously enjoys being around. They seem to enjoy each other's company. But there's a lot of like, Ty is trying to get Caleb to eat the eyes of the fish. And then is like, taunting Caleb to take a piece of fish out of or that Caleb is taunting Ty to come take a piece of fish out of his mouth.

[00:26:03] And then Ty goes in to try to give him a kiss. Yeah. And the kid's like, ah, get out of here. Come on. Mm hmm. Some flirting going on for sure here. Yeah. And Ty is a taken man. We know he is married at this time. Yes. And Caleb is, looks like he's down for a good time. But you know, Caleb watched his season of Big Brother. To your point, he knows how Zanke played to the audience. Yes. People loved it. And so maybe he was leaning in. Maybe. Maybe.

[00:26:33] Ty calls Caleb, uh, cut-a-licious or at least he calls Mark, his husband, cut-a-licious, but says that he likes cuddling with Caleb. Nowadays, you would not be allowed to do this. They shut this down. No. Yeah. That's against the rules. That's against the rules. You know? And I think, uh, this is a lot safer for Caleb as well because you know, the last time Caleb was, uh, in a manse with somebody. These rules help him. It was one-sided. Yeah, these are good. This is good. This is good. Yeah.

[00:26:59] And then the other people in this tribe basically could be invisible in this episode. Uh, Michelle, Anna, Julia, uh, Nick, that they're all just spectators watching the Caleb and Ty show. Yeah. Mind you, in about an episode or two, people are gonna be like, I think Michelle's taking it. It's like, the same Michelle we haven't seen? Um, yeah, um, they were just there. The beauties were there. Um, but we get a lot of Ty content and it makes sense.

[00:27:28] I mean, we will see Ty come back in survivor history, um, very quickly after this, um, because he is one of the stars of the season. And it seems like he finds a little bit of a beware advantage, right? Yeah. This was kind of wild for season 32. And it was really, uh, shot as season 31 of Ty finds the hidden immunity idol. It says, uh, great. You found the hidden eye immunity idol, dig it up below. And then it says you've great. You found the hidden immunity idol, but it's still up in a tree.

[00:27:56] And it's like, I don't know, seemingly like 20, 30 feet up in the air, up on top of this palm tree. So he needs to figure out how to get it. He tries to climb this tree and it really felt bad for the guy because he ends up bleeding and he's like bleeding on the tree. And he realizes he can't make it up the tree. He's like banging his head on the tree because he's so frustrated. He's saying that he needs Ozzy. He will play with Ozzy in just one year. Yeah. How did that go? Did they ever, were they ever on the same tribe?

[00:28:25] I mean, they made the marriage. I think they did. I want to say that they're both at the Zeke and Varner tribal council. Oh, oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They are. You're right about that. They will, they will be destined to meet at some point. Yeah. It is very much like Ty is in his Ozzy bag. You know, Ozzy is known for climbing the trees and grabbing the coconuts and all that kind of stuff. And Ty, if the, if the idol is 30 feet up, Ty gets about 20 feet up before he decides, you know what?

[00:28:55] My feet hurt. It's like sandpaper. I got to come down. I'm less concerned about him climbing up to get the idol as I am about how is he going to get down? You know, it's, it reminds me of when the survivors are on the poles, you know, and they're just hanging on for dear life. But then I'm kind of like, if they don't have the strength to climb down, that's a long fall. Yep. We've seen some people take some bad falls on that. So Ty knows where the thing is and he doesn't have it yet. No, no, no. He's going to need a big old stick or something like that to knock it down.

[00:29:24] Okay. Uh, let's talk about then what's going on with the brain stripe and a lot of drama here. Now they won the challenge last time. They got some kerosene, which is kind of rare. I don't think that we see survivor players, uh, get that. We got it in the Amazon as part of like, uh, what we got to start, but you don't really see that any people get kerosene on survivor. I don't think I ever knew that they gave y'all kerosene in the Amazon.

[00:29:53] It was in the box where we got like a bunch of supplies to start off the game and we did have kerosene. Yeah, this is. So I wasn't paying attention when they said that they got it in the last reward. So when they start talking about the kerosene, I'm like, so y'all just walking around with oil, like gas out here? Like what we doing? You know, I mean, there have been times where survivors have gotten their hands on gasoline at, you know, uh, but not because of the producers. Right. It was like against the producers.

[00:30:20] We'll I'm pretty sure that was Boston Rob and crew over on heroes. I think it was Tyson really, who was the person who, um, I think that maybe it was Rob's idea. And Tyson was the wheel man, uh, who went in and like siphon some of the gas out of like a production vehicle. The fact that he could siphon gas out of a production vehicle, just like at will is already crazy to me. Cause there's no way. There's no way you tell me like, Hey, go get the gas out there. I'm like, what am I going to do? We're on a deserted Island.

[00:30:49] What am I going to do to get the gas out there? Nothing, nothing. I would be like, go to hell, you know, like somebody else go do this. Um, but they ended up with a big old fireball. And so this time around, I guess production was like, no, go ahead. You'll go. You know, well it's, it's hot. It's hot. It's hot out here, but it could be hotter. Yeah. So they give them the kerosene and that they end up first, they use too much. And then also apparently Joe Del Campo spilt some of it. Did they use too much or were people just complaining?

[00:31:16] Cause if you ask Joe Del Campo, he's like, these people think they know everything. They think that they read survivor in a book. Uh, the tribe and I have spoken. They read it and they really focus on the chapter about how to win survivor and what to do if you get on the show. And now they think they know everything about, uh, starting a fire. Yep. That this is a age old debate on survivor where you have the Liz Markham types who are sort of the intellectuals who have prepared.

[00:31:43] She has not spent, I, to my knowledge, she has not spent a lot of time outdoors, but she has learned everything there is to learn from books and from resources about what to do in these type of conditions. And then you have Joe Del Campo who has a military backgrounds, who seemingly has lived in these types of conditions. And they, they're having a clash over, she says that they need to boil the water.

[00:32:11] There are pathogens in the water and Joe Del Campo is like, pathogens, my ass. Pathogens, mathogens. Yeah. It, it's, it's Liz on one side, Joe on the other side. And then Debbie is just an agent of chaos walking around like, you know, I tested water for 20 years. I can eyeball it. Okay. I can tell you what a pathogen looks like just by looking at it. So there's too much going on. I will say this. I love Liz Markham as a character. I'm so happy she got, uh, Steven on the ballot for survivor Cambodia.

[00:32:41] Yeah. She's, uh, really good. She's getting upset here because that nobody is listening to her. She very much is like, we need to boil the water. And so they're having issues with the fire and they're not getting the water boiled to the degree that now ultimately, ironically, I think she's going to leave the game with a pretty bad infection. Uh, not from drinking the water. Oh, she, I didn't know. I don't think I knew about this infection.

[00:33:07] I think she, that she is also one of the people, she does not leave the game with it, but I do think that she was one of the people that ends up getting, uh, that very bad, uh, uh, MRSA infection. Co-wrong needed to happen. Cause I think survivor production had got a little lax on, you know, some of the, the, the, the, take the care of these contestants. Right. Uh, respectfully, I don't, I don't, I'm not wishing, uh, you know, MRSA on anything. Anybody or a heat exhaustion, but all that stuff happens in this season.

[00:33:36] And I think they have to make some changes because of it, because we do see Liz Markham, like teary eyed talking to the, talking to the camera saying, I don't think Joe understands how bad I need water right now. And as a production person, someone should be like, is she okay? You know, we're asking if, if, um, Jennifer Lanzetti is okay. Cause the bug crawled in her ear, but let's mark them looks disturbed. Yeah. She even says like, I have to remove myself from this right now because I'm not even thinking logically anymore. I need water.

[00:34:04] I think they were, it had gotten pretty bad for them out there in Co-wrong for sure. Well, they make such a big deal in survivor 49 about the hot, how hot it is in the heat. And Jeff talks about it a number of different times. Steven also said that the weather in Co-wrong is even hotter than it was when they ended up shooting in Cambodia. This was like the hotter time of the year and you see some really bad sunburns from the players.

[00:34:29] And so I think that the elements here are, it's a little hard to contextualize just how hot it ever is when you're watching survivor. When they did this challenge this time, they were in the water and I thought, oh, that's very smart for you to put the challenge in the water. Because, you know, that way at least they have something cooling them because the challenge that's going to kill Caleb is in the sand and it is for spices. And so I'm sure we'll get into that later on.

[00:34:58] But yeah, they had them doing a lot of crazy stuff out here in some wild conditions out here in Co-wrong. Yeah. So it is going to be pretty tough for everybody. We have not seen Aubrey really in this episode. I think this is maybe a zero confessional episode for Aubrey. Yeah. Her and Michelle both, I think, go confessionalists this time. But I think Liz has stepped into the Aubrey role. You know, the first episode, Aubrey's overwhelmed.

[00:35:28] You know, she's hot, blah, blah, blah. She's a first Aubrey. Right. And honestly, it's wild that they're both on the same cast because I know they're brains, but they really are playing the same exact role. The first episode was the Aubrey show. Same concept. But this time it's the Liz show. And Liz, who was at the top of this hierarchy, who was so fine last round, she's like, Aubrey's lips aren't even chapped. I don't even know how dehydrated she is. And now she's like, Joe does not understand. I need fire and I need water now.

[00:35:57] You know, the turntables. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting that they have some similarities, but then they also, I feel like, have these differences where that Aubrey is so quirky as a person. And I feel like that Liz Markham, from what we see about her on the show, like, she is just, like, very logical.

[00:36:20] Like, she doesn't really have, like, maybe she has, like, idiosyncrasies, but she doesn't come across, like, as quirky in any way. She's very, like, buttoned up and down to business. She's probably more of the Emily Flippen archetype. You know, just like, it's like the logical brain person, right? Who might be a little straightforward. But I think that's kind of what they were going for here. But I do think we're getting some good personality moments from her. Right now, I'm very excited that she's on the season.

[00:36:50] Because it's been fun watching her, even though she's in hell right now. She's very much dying. Yeah, she's really not having it with Joe. Also, she is getting, working with Peter. Really roasted Debbie when, after she talked about all of her things with the water, he said, The question with Debbie is, so does she have 30 cats or 40 cats? And he's like, probably 40. Definitely 40.

[00:37:19] Okay, okay. Bagging stocks. Like, calm down. Slow your roll a little bit. I think one of the more fun things to watch in this season is the fall of the brains. Because it's not just that the brains don't last. It's that the meek inherit the brain tribe. You know, like the same people that are at the bottom are going to be the last couple people standing. And in Aubrey's case, will go on to play Survivor three more times while you have Peter and Liz. These are the high points of their game.

[00:37:47] They're about to go out back to back, essentially, in the next couple episodes. And this is their moment. Everything else after this is downhill. Yeah, I'm interested to see, because it's going to be the next episode where we're going to see Liz go out. Spoiler alert. And I'm interested to see how it falls apart for Peter and Liz. Because they have not been presented in a negative light, really, at all. Unless you are like a real Joe Del Campo stan of like, yeah, these girls need to listen to Joe.

[00:38:15] So that they have been presented as the people who have been sort of the like logical centered people in this tribe. And they're kind of acting like it, too, right? It's like they know like we're the normal people. OK, we got the crazies over here. We got Joe. He's old. He doesn't know what he's talking about. And we got Debbie and all her damn jobs. That guy's wearing ice cream pants. And then Aubrey's having a panic attack. Look at us in the middle.

[00:38:42] And I don't know if their gameplay is not active, but the show will lead you to believe that the two of them are in the middle and like some weird swing position between these other four people that they think are at the bottom. But two people cannot have the numbers. You need to go and solidify these relationships with everybody else. And if you're talking trash about everybody, maybe those four people will just get together and vote you out. Yeah. OK, so we'll see what happens next time. This episode is called Kindergarten Camp.

[00:39:09] And it was said, do you remember who said this? I believe that is Joe Del Campo talking about Liz Markham's survival skills. She tried to make a charcoal filter for the water or something like that. And he was like, get that out of here. Get out of my face with that charcoal filter. Steven Fishback? Get out of here. Get out of here. Yeah. I did watch recently Kindergarten Cop on Netflix.

[00:39:40] Why? I was looking for my son, Anthony. He watches a lot of Marvel movies. But I said, hey, let's watch a comedy. Let's watch something that's funny. And I said, OK, let's watch Kindergarten Cop. And I watched the story of John Kimball, I believe is his name. That's Arnold Schwarzenegger's character. And he goes into the school. And he has to be the substitute kindergarten teacher.

[00:40:05] I'm trying to see if there's any similarities between Kindergarten Camp, this episode, and... Kindergarten Cop? Yeah, Kindergarten Cop. I mean, there's one point where the kids are all, like, arguing and fighting. And he's sort of like, shut up! I mean, is that like when we see Jennifer stand up at tribal council? Yeah, she's Arnold. She's stood up to try to get all these kids together. Yeah.

[00:40:35] But I don't think there's too many other similarities. No, I doubt it. I highly doubt it. So, the kid, like, climbs, like, the water tower at the end of the movie. Kind of like Ty ends up climbing up the tree and needs to get down. I didn't know I was going to have to watch Kindergarten Cop to prepare for this. What's the next episode called? I need to know if I can go watch another movie. The next episode title is called The Circle of Life. I don't think that's ever been said in a movie before. Yeah, I must say. No.

[00:41:05] There's no movie that's The Circle of Life. Yeah. I don't know whether I would watch in that case. Maybe I'll just go watch The Circle. Or maybe I'll watch Life. Mm-hmm. Yeah. There's lots of options there. Was there anything else here from episode two of Survivor Co-Wrong? Not that I can think of. You know, it was, again, fun episode of TV. 60 minutes. It didn't feel belabored.

[00:41:36] You know, I don't want to keep beating. It's so much fun. I'm having such a good time watching this. It's tight. You're getting the soundbite from people. Sure, we did get a purple beauty tribe for the most part. But at the same time, we get that now. You know, we still get characters that we don't see for four or five episodes. And, you know, we just showed up at the challenge. Jeff didn't, like, rap or anything. It's like, it's just like, oh, yeah. Let's just get down to it. All right. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:42:06] Yes. Well, I was going to say that I do appreciate Debbie being on the Brains Tribe. I think she could have easily been on the Brains Tribe. But I think putting Debbie on the Brains Tribe is a masterstroke. Because telling her that she is one of the more intelligent people on the cast is just going to feed into her, you know, her own mystique about herself. It's like putting Coach on Redemption Island and being like, you're a warrior. He's like, I know I am. I know I am. That's exactly why I'm here. Yeah. You saw her like, we have the biggest frontal lobes.

[00:42:35] She's cheering like, brain matter. Brain matter. I was like, Debbie, this is annoying. But again, we want good TV. I'm okay with this. Yeah. So I watched the Know-It-Alls that was live this night on February 24th, 2016. It was the first season that Josh filled in for Steven when Cambodia was on the air. And so Steven is now back on the podcast. And this was a live show that we did.

[00:43:04] Very rare for us to do the live show on episode two. We've done it a couple of different times. And so we were live and it was really, really fun to go back and watch it. Ryan Elder and Shut Up Tim, not What Up Tim, Shut Up Tim sang the Know-It-Alls intro. Steven was very, very fun.

[00:43:26] And then Jonathan Penner, again, just like he would come back 10 years later at the live show that we just did, was there in person. And he was very fun. Man, I bet. Yeah. So it has been literally 10 years since the last time Penner showed up to a live show? He showed up to a live show. Yeah. I don't think that he did, showed up at any of them in between. I think that that was, I think that that was it.

[00:43:53] And he told a story that I've retold many times, but I realized I had been misquoting him in the anecdote. But because we're asking him like, hey, Penner, so you played in a season with three tribes. And then you also played with a former athlete. You have Scott Pollard here. And you played with Jeff Kent. And I asked him, what do you think about Scott Pollard? He's like, well, first, I think he looks like Lurch. That's what he said about him.

[00:44:21] And he told the story about how he got off the plane from the Philippines with Jeff Kent, who flew home first class. And then his wife, Stacy, was waiting for him at the airport. And he got off the plane. And she was like, oh, my God, you were on the flight with Jeff Kent? And he's like, wait, how do you know Jeff Kent? She's like, we saw him hit a home run at Dodger Stadium. And she's like, how do you know Jeff Kent? Or you don't remember when he was on the hit the home run at Dodger Stadium.

[00:44:50] But then he talked about he's like, F Jeff Kent. It's like out of nowhere. And then he said, he said, Jeff Kent wouldn't pee on your head if you were on fire. I remember that story. And it's so real. It's so real. Because he wouldn't. But I remember he said Jeff Kent wouldn't piss on your head. Which I think is a better Pennerism, if I may correct, Penner. Yeah.

[00:45:15] I think you have the, if anybody has the authority to step in and be a proxy or to speak for Jonathan Penner, I think at this point you've done your hours. You've done your time. It's like F Jeff Kent. So real. So real. A good F you on Survivor and Survivor-related FUs are always good. You know, like the F you Brad Culpepper. It was funny also because Penner and, and it was asking, have you ever been around this type of thing at Tribal Council?

[00:45:43] And Penner was talking a little bit about Abby Maria. And then Steven and Abby, Steven and Penner were bonding a little bit of like, Steven's like, oh, isn't she the worst? Steven should be very afraid of Abby Maria. He's bold to speak about her after playing. Yeah. No, he's crazy. Yeah. But. Wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. So yeah, that was a fun one to go back and watch the, the live show. Also then Max Dawson is there.

[00:46:11] And then also Corinne comes up and Corinne is going on. Corinne is very taken with Kyle Jason. Oh. Yes. Okay. She thinks he should have been on the beauty tribe. Oh, okay. Corinne. She's got a little of that Jordan Kalish going on. Okay. Two episodes. Calm down. Calm down. Okay. Corinne, please. Get out the spray bottle. So yeah. It's a married man, I think. Yep. Okay. So yeah, that's it.

[00:46:39] That's a co-wrong episode two. And we will come back with episode three. Anything else about our two episodes deep into our co-wrong rewatch? Oh, one thing I just remembered about Kyle Jason. I stole one of his quotes from this episode. Embrace the suck. Yeah. I've been saying that since co-wrong. It couldn't have told you where I got it from. I knew it was a survivor quote. I think a part of me thought it was a, like a Samoa kind of, you know, like, you know, Russell Hanson in the water. Like, I love it when everybody's dying.

[00:47:08] You know, like, I thought that's what this was, but no, embrace the suck. He says it here. I do think that it is, uh, like, I don't think that that's a Kyle Jason original. I think that that's, uh, in, like, I've heard different, like military people say it specifically, like Iraq veterans. I think that that's kind of like a motto, uh, that people have used there, but he did bring it to survivor. Yeah. When he said it, I said, Oh, is that where I got that from?

[00:47:33] I realized a lot of my personality is just, uh, bits and pieces of TV shows that I've watched over a year. So yeah. Embrace the suck. Okay. All right. Well, we are not embracing the suck here because we're having a lot of fun watching survivor co-wrong. We'll come back with episode three. Uh, in the meantime, Chappelle, what else should people check out from you? Same stuff we said two days ago. Check out recap kickback. Uh, we're talking about the flavor of love cinematic universe, but we're also talking about interview with the vampire and house of the dragon.

[00:48:01] Uh, and, uh, there's a lot of content over recap kickback. So subscribe recap, kickback.com slash subscribe. If you haven't seen it also something fun that I'm doing with Mike Bloom this month, we're doing a series called who's the goat. And we're going to do a five part series. Look at five different survivor players who could make the case for who's the goat of survivor. And Mike Bloom and I will be taking turns debating the case for who is the survivor goat. Mm-hmm.

[00:48:30] I, I, I listened to the podcast, the preview podcast. I feel like you're doing a little safe. Y'all are like switch switching positions. You know, you're going to take the pro you're going to take the car. I was like, boo, boo, boo. I want to see y'all fight. Let's go bring in the biggest stand of each of these people. A little rumble. Hmm. Okay. Matter of fact, bring in the people, bring it, Tony, bring it poverty, bring it, bring it, bring it, Sandra. And let's duke it out. Wow. Could you imagine? Yes. That's why I say you should do it. Could you, cause I could just see it now.

[00:49:00] They like Sandra, Sandra and poverty. That's just a powder keg waiting to happen. Um, poverty and Sari are locked up, but you know, um, you know, I think both of them would probably be like, I think it's, I think it's the other one. And then Tony's going to say it's him. Uh, Rob. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's, it's Rob. Rob's in the conversation too. Right? Yeah. So it's Rob, Sari, Tony, Sandra and poverty. Right? Yeah. Yeah. They're going to fight. Bring them in. Bring them in. And don't tell them why. Parent trap these people.

[00:49:28] You have to be like, Oh, we're having a thing. We're going to have a celebration. Maybe this is traders. All stars. Maybe this is traders. R. P. You know, see if you can lock them in. You start right now. I think you might be. Put them all in the turret. Put them all in the turret. Would change the game. Have they all played the traders? Yeah. Right. That's crazy. Mm-hmm. All of them? Damn. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:49:57] Look at, look at the traders casting. I mean, they got all of, they got all the goats and then they got the best to never win yourself. You know, look at this. Yeah. All right. There you go. All right. Thank you so much for joining us. Take care, everybody. Have a good one. Bye. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile.

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