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[00:02:27] Parental guidance suggested. Hey everybody, what's going on? Rob Cesternino. We're back. Go effing wrong. Episode number 10. And a classic tonight as Ty does not play the Super Idol. And Scott Pollard goes home and here to talk about it with us. It's Chappell. Chappelle, how are you?

[00:02:58] I'm great. I feel like super energized after that episode of Survivor. A really, really good one. A dramatic moment in the season where you're waiting for Ty. What's he going to do? Is he going to play the idol on himself? Is he going to play the idol on Scott? And then everybody's waiting. And it seemed like a very pregnant pause. Everybody's looking around, looking at Ty, looking back at Scott, looking at Ty. And then eventually he's like, no. I don't think so. No, not doing that. Not doing that.

[00:03:27] Kudos to the Survivor editors. I think they are the ones who should get a lot of credit for this. Because I think that that moment where Ty is waiting or they're waiting to see if Ty will play the idol on Scott. I think that's a nothing burger. I think there's nothing there. You know, Ty voted for him. So he's not going to then go and save him after voting for him. That doesn't make any sense. But the editors really kind of gloss over that part and just lean into like a, hey, Ty, why don't you just stand up and do a thing?

[00:03:57] And they cut to Scott looking like, hey, don't you want to save me? It's like he voted for you. He's not going to save you. And then on top of that, Rob, just last episode, we had to Rochambeau and then stand up and here, Ty, accept my idol. I am Ty and I am accepting the idol and I am sitting down. Where is that? Where's all that energy? Now Ty can just like have part of it. And then we find out Scott has part of it. What are the rules here?

[00:04:24] I feel like there was less of this going on in the game, but the show really kind of leans into the drama. And it worked 100%. Yeah, it's really well done. We still don't really know how the rules we played as we were talking about yesterday of how we even played the super idol. It does seem like from Scott's vantage point that Ty could save him with the other half of the idol. Scott is voted out of the game with Jason's idol.

[00:04:52] So the other idol is gone. Yeah, but if I'm Scott in this moment, I'm standing up and saying, I have half of the super idol. Ty, are you with me? But instead, we kind of get this like, like you said, this pause where we're looking at Ty like, Ty, don't you have anything? Don't you have something you want to tell the people? Like, Scott, you also have half of the idol. It takes to the tango here. Get up, walk over to Jeff with your idol out and be like, and put the pressure on Ty.

[00:05:20] You know, like, hey, Ty, come over here because you owe me this because I helped you get that. You know, something like that. But I just felt like there was more there that he could have done in the moment. And then to find out that he actually could have just played an idol on himself, this wouldn't even be a conversation. Yeah. I guess we're getting everything from Scott and Jason's point of view. The two people who get blindsided at this tribal council. I was shocked to see that he got voted out with that idol in his hand because you would think that we get to the tribal council. We know that.

[00:05:50] I mean, I just feel like this is elementary survivor. However, one of the three of us is safe. We have two idols. You play yours. I play mine. We're all safe. Or hold on. Three of me goes this thing. Yeah. Wear the things around your neck and say, who are y'all going to vote for? We all have an idol. We're all immune. Now, Aubrey is not going to risk Michelle and Julia voting her out. So her, Sydney and Joe probably all vote for Julia in that moment.

[00:06:19] But it doesn't matter because the boys are going to vote with Julia and vote out Aubrey or Sydney. And then she goes home. What did they? How did they fumble this? You had three idols. Yeah. They didn't try to do a full three amigos here where Jason wins immunity. And then Jason gives his immunity idol to Scott. Ty has another idol. The three of them could potentially have all been safe.

[00:06:45] But I think they felt like that Julia, the double agent, was voting with them. It's the final eight. I guess they felt like that they were going to have four votes on Aubrey. And then I guess they did not think that the other four people were going to all vote together on Ty. Yeah, but if Julia is voting with them, they know where everybody else is voting because Julia is in on the vote. She's the double agent. They fumbled this. They messed this up.

[00:07:15] I've been talking about how bad players they were this entire season. They were bad players. They were not good players of Survivor. This is the third consecutive tribal council in a row that Jason and Scott have been blindsided on the Nick vote. The Debbie vote, Debbie went home. It had nothing to do with them. It was not what they thought was going to happen. And then also once again here on this vote.

[00:07:43] Once again, to be clear, a three-person alliance had three idols and one of them still went home. We don't talk about this enough in the boneheaded things that have happened in Survivor history. Your entire alliance had idols. You could have played one for him. He could have played with you. Hell, Jason could have put the idol around your neck if he wanted to. And you still lost this. How did you fumble this? They lost Ty. They don't even need him.

[00:08:11] All Scott got to do is play Jason's idol for himself that he has. It'd be different if he didn't have it. If Jason had it, like, damn, it's not in my possession. There's nothing I can do. He actually gave it to him in case they needed it. Why not just play it? Why not? It's a good question. Yeah. When you talk about it that way, a two-person alliance with an idol and immunity necklace, you would think that it would be unlikely that one of them would go home. Yes. And here we are with three people. Now, don't get me wrong.

[00:08:41] Like you said, Ty is flipped. But yeah, you come back to two. And you're looking at Ty as if he is the linchpin to this working. He's not. You are. Play your idol, Ozzy. Play your idol, Bruce. Play your idol. Again, Ozzy. Play your idol. Why do y'all sit here with... How do you sit here knowing you're getting votes on you and not playing the idol? This is crazy. Mm-hmm. And then the idea that you're going to wait for the super idol thing. Why wait for the super idol when you could just play the idol? You don't need to wait on a super idol.

[00:09:11] What is the point? Did Julia tell them that they were voting for Scott? Yeah. We get a scene where she's over there being double agent. She tells them that they're voting for a tie, is I believe what she said. Yeah. Julia tells them the girls are voting for tie. And Julia's correct. Michelle and Julia are voting for tie. Yeah. But Aubrey has other plans. And this is really... We've been talking about it off and on, Aubrey's gameplay here and there.

[00:09:38] But I mean, peak Aubrey right here, right? She completely just demands this episode. It's everything you would want from somebody. And it feels like if you're going to give somebody a winner edit, this is how one looks, right? Now, in contrast, I don't think Michelle got a confessional in this episode. If she did, maybe one. I think that, and as I'm looking at the vote chart here, so Aubrey, Sydney, Joe, and Ty are the four people that vote for Scott.

[00:10:08] It seems like that, I think Michelle and Julia got left out of the plan. They did. They did. They did. And so when we talk about Michelle and her winner edit, it's not a 360-degree edit. They want to show Michelle looking good. And so I think we're just not seeing Michelle, not because she had nothing to say, because she wasn't doing anything. I think it was because that she was just not giving confessionals about what was about to happen.

[00:10:38] Exactly. And this is one of those other smoking guns that get the edgy people going, right? Because Michelle is blindsided here. But we never see Michelle's point of view at all. You know, Julia, we see her point of view. We know exactly what she wants to do. It's completely opposite of what everything Debbie told us in the exit press. But for some reason, we get everything that Julia is thinking in this episode because Julia is in danger. But you know who's not in danger? Michelle. Her name never comes up as a potential vote either here.

[00:11:07] Nobody's ever said they wanted to vote out Michelle in this episode. We don't find out who Michelle wants to vote for, if she has any thoughts or ideas about it. But it's kind of like not having any content there is enough to be like, okay, maybe we're protecting her from something, right? We don't want our winner to look like they don't know what they're talking about. And I think that in the next episode, I haven't watched ahead outside of when it was airing and we did the 40 season countdown. I think that Michelle's real stretch run starts to kick off next week. Absolutely.

[00:11:37] You know, we know that she's going to actually have a really good immunity run there as well. And so I'm very excited to see it from like the show standpoint. But yeah, if you're reading the edit, you're looking at Aubrey. Well, first of all, if you're watching this with the naked eye, right? Like just blind eye fan of the show watching the show. You're like, damn, Aubrey can do no wrong. But if you're looking for the mistakes Michelle is making, where was the mistake? You know, it looks like she's left out of the vote, but the show doesn't really talk about it. You know, so yeah, these two things are happening simultaneously. And slowly the fan base is starting to split in half.

[00:12:07] Mm-hmm. Yeah. And in the real time, I went, I watched the Survivor Know-It-Alls. And in the real time, I really was feeling like, this is Aubrey's story. This is Aubrey rising. It was a really good episode for Aubrey, right? In this episode, you know, we see Aubrey really using her leverage over Ty. And she calls it a misconnections, you know, kind of relationship that they have, where it looks like they want to work together, but they just haven't found the right opportunity to make it happen.

[00:12:36] So knowing that Aubrey and Ty barely have a relationship, it's very impressive what she's able to do and the way the show depicts it, right? It's Aubrey being like, I got to get to Ty. I got to get to Ty. I got to get to Ty. We see Aubrey hiding in the tall grass like a damn lioness and talking to Ty while he's standing up doing things. He's like, get down here. Get down here. Are you sure you want to play with these guys? Don't they suck? Oh, yeah. Look at me. We're great. You got three people. We got your back. You know? And it works. And so, yeah, if you're watching at home, you're like, man, put Aubrey at number one in the power rankings right now.

[00:13:06] He kind of gives the impression that he's afraid of them. And that's why he doesn't want to turn on them. Yeah. He's like, don't be mad at me. He's like, yeah, that sucks. I mean, to be fair, they've been showing themselves as people you should probably be weary of. Not so much like they're afraid. He's afraid they're going to hurt him. But they're just not pleasant people when they're upset. You know? They're putting out the fire. Yeah, they're drinking the water that you gather. He's like, I don't want to. I don't feel like dealing with their attitudes is basically what he's trying to say. I don't think he feels like they're going to threaten his life.

[00:13:36] But he definitely was like, if I could just live here without them stomping around here all mad, that's ideal for Ty. And so, yeah, there's a small chance here that he doesn't go with Aubrey because he's like, I just don't want to deal with the ire of these two guys. Also, these two guys might be pretty easy to beat Ty if you stay with them. So maybe don't. Maybe don't betray them right here. He mentions that in terms of that he feels like that people won't vote for them. That's a reason to stay with them. Julia talks about that they're easy to beat.

[00:14:05] That's the reason why she wants to work with them. So everybody's looking at them as people who have no business even being in the end game. Right. And they're talking about choosing who they want in their end game. They're like, we can go with Ty, but what if we go with Julia? Wouldn't that be cool? I think we can beat Julia. You cannot. You cannot beat anybody. This is one of my... And you split votes. And you can't even vote for each other at that point, right? It's...

[00:14:35] They got to be like Kyle and Camilla and decide which one of us is going to be in the finals. This is the thing I do at the end of every season. After the votes are read, I always go through and be like, okay, who did you think you were going to get, right? In season 50, that was my big question for Jonathan. Okay, boom. You made it to the end. You thought you played a good game. You're sitting next to Aubrey. Who are the people that you think you're going to get over Aubrey? And then when you start to list people like Chris Jowler, hey, hey, slow down. That you're not going to do... Oh, I thought... You know, it's like, no, you didn't think that. There's no way you should have thought that.

[00:15:04] You had a misread on the jury. These two guys sitting here talking about who they can beat is actually crazy. I think, if anything, they probably should be trying to go to the end with Ty. I think Ty's not an awful choice. I mean, I think we will see that maybe he gets in trouble for being so wishy-washy. Maybe he doesn't really have a backbone if he's not willing to stand up to them. He's pouring out the fire and stuff like that. And they know Ty is in on their evil plan, so maybe they can tank his social standing.

[00:15:31] But I think maybe Joe might be another person they could beat. But I don't think they can beat any of the women, considering they keep thinking this is a women's alliance and they want the jury to be full of women that they did bullied for three episodes. I just don't think it's making sense. I think that Joe has Debbie and Aubrey. They're drawing dead at the final eight. It is crazy that they're talking about who they can go to the end with. No, you can't do anything. Be nice to people and then you can get some votes. Yeah.

[00:15:58] So, yeah, maybe they could get Michelle and Julia and one of them is not in the final three. And then they'd maybe get Debbie if she's salty against Aubrey or something. Debbie wanted to vote for a woman, the whole thing. That's what she said the whole way. So it's going to be tough. It's tough. Tough for Jason and Scott.

[00:16:21] So I will call myself out a cell phone, a very bad, bad take from me on the know-it-alls. I talked about how look at Aubrey. She is really playing this perfectly. At the tribal council, she is gassing up Scott and Jason and talking about how they're competitors

[00:16:45] and how Jason is talking about how Aubrey, she's got as much brawn in her as he does. She had a valiant effort against Jason in the immunity challenge when her back was against the wall. And I told Steven, I was like, listen, that these guys are pissed, but they're not pissed at Aubrey. These guys respect Aubrey. Aubrey's doing great. These guys are going to vote. They made a tie.

[00:17:11] They would totally vote for Aubrey at the end of this game. That's not your fault. I said that. That's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. And here's why. Because we actually have clips of them saying those exact things. You know, like Jason is saying, Aubrey is a competitor. Aubrey is, like, even when he votes for it, he says, this is because you're such a good competitor, right? It's not a vote because, like, I want you out or, you know, I don't like you or you did something wrong.

[00:17:40] It is, you can beat me and so I need you out of the game. But, you know, the jury votes for one of three people, right? Essentially, one of three people is going to win the game. And so as long as Aubrey's sitting next to somebody who they hate more, then she could win. And hopefully she doesn't get to the end with somebody who is well-beloved by everybody. We shall see. Yeah.

[00:18:04] I feel like that this season, the narrative, I think, changed. And Aubrey has talked about this a little bit where people fell in love with Michelle. And they said, oh, no, no, no, no. The reason why Michelle won is because Aubrey had a bad social game. Aubrey was bad at this. And so far, I haven't seen that. I haven't seen a bad social game from Aubrey. No, no. I've yet to see, like, the person.

[00:18:32] Because even if you look at the people who have been voted out so far, yeah, maybe Debbie doesn't love this. You know, the Aubrey move. Michelle was in on it. So, but maybe she's betrayed, right? So, that's a burn vote right there. We see Scott going out here. Scott and Jason seemingly had a lot of respect for Aubrey at this point. So, maybe there's something that happens in the next few days that turns them around on her. She's always going to get Joe's vote. Neil's not going to be there to save her. And so, you know what? And she loses Sidney vote for almost no reason.

[00:19:02] No doing of her own, she loses Sidney's vote. So, I don't think it's ever been that Aubrey's social game wasn't strong. That doesn't really track for what we're watching. Not to say that this is an anti-Michelle take in any way, shape, or form. I just feel like that the narrative kind of changed on this season where people went back and said, no, Aubrey actually had a bad social game. I think that the Debbie relationship didn't really go bad until Aubrey voted Debbie out. Debbie was salty about that. But in the game, it seemed like that was always fine.

[00:19:31] We'll see how these next couple of episodes go for Aubrey. But I think that Aubrey really struggled socially in the Edge of Extinction in those first couple episodes when she comes back and then gets kind of dunked on for she's saying the same thing to all the different people in her tribe when she's trying to put this alliance together. And I almost feel like that we sort of retconned that Aubrey had a bad social game in Survivor Call Wrong and that's why she loses.

[00:20:01] Yeah, I think so a little bit too. I mean, if you go back and listen to some of the things that were said after the season, you know, I think, what is it, Jason says, like, yeah, watching it back, I could see myself voting for Aubrey instead. You know, like, I think there's some there. But yeah, I don't think it's bad. I think with Neal still on the jury, Aubrey has a fighting chance here at the very end against Michelle. I mean, it's very early to be talking about it right now, but, you know, Neal getting voted off takes away one of her guaranteed votes.

[00:20:30] She has another guaranteed vote with Joe. So if she can get Sidney's vote and then Debbie or one of Scott and Jason, I mean, this is a different game. But look whose vote we're trying to get. We're trying to get Debbie's vote, who's mad at her, and Sidney's vote, who is still a big question mark in my mind as far as like how I feel about it. I know what she said, but I don't know how I feel about it. Yeah. And she does get Nick's vote. And she gets Nick's vote. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Like, it's not, there's no, it's not like a, she's not Russell Hance. You know what I'm saying?

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[00:25:14] And he tries to strong arm Aubrey and says, hey, listen. Like, we want things to go back to normal. We want to have harmony in the camp. Here's what we need. Just give us Sydney. We want Sydney on a silver platter. And then we'll stop terrorizing the camp. Sacrifice one of your closest allies. And then we will stop being mean to you. It's like, or I sacrifice my closest ally and you continue to be mean to me. I don't know if this is a good deal.

[00:25:44] Aubrey, I think they wake her up in the morning with this. She's like, it's kind of early for y'all to be talking crazy to me. And this is just another sign of who Aubrey is. She's not going to negotiate with terrorists. Don't negotiate with terrorists. And she says that they're dressing up this offer in a birthday cake. But it's still a, I forget the word she used to describe this. This act of dominance. Yeah, I think that's really what it is.

[00:26:13] It's very domineering at the very least, you know. Domineering, that's what she said. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's worth a shot from Scott. But again, his bedside manner is not good. He's not, you know, I think if you go to Aubrey and be like, Aubrey, I feel bad about what we did. And I really wish I could take it back. We were mad in the moment, but we're over it. You know, is there any way we can work together? If let's say you don't vote us out, who do you want? You know, you've talked about this before. If you are at the bottom, you don't have a lot to leverage.

[00:26:43] His leveraging piece at camp when they can just vote you out. Bing, they did it. So it's like, okay, Aubrey, you can beat us. You can beat us. You can beat us. Who do you want out? Whatever you want to do. We're not going to win the game. Look around. Nobody's going to vote for us. There's no point in voting us out right now. But we'll work with you right now. What do you need us to do? That's the pitch here for Aubrey. And I don't even think it would work, but it's worth a shot. And look at how Aubrey handled the situation with Ty when she goes to Ty and says, well, who do you want out? Yeah. What do you want to do? Whatever you want to do, Ty.

[00:27:13] You got three people behind you. The alliance is coming wherever you want to go. And that's how you do it. That's how you woo somebody over. Okay. Yeah. This has been a season where there's been a lot of wrinkles in the challenge that we thought have all been interesting. And in this challenge, we're going to have an endurance challenge. And an endurance challenge with three different rewards.

[00:27:38] That there is a reward that is for love. One person is going to win a letter from home. There's going to be also food. It's like a burger and fries and maybe a beer. And then there's also an advantage. And so this was, I thought this was pretty cool. I can't remember another time where we had the survivors do this, where pick which thing do you want to play for?

[00:28:07] And then you were only competing against the other people who were competing for the same thing. And I don't think we can do this anymore. Right? Like I think we have. Everybody would just go for the advantage. Everybody should go for the advantage. But also at this point in the game, it's like day 14. Did you really miss at home like that? You know, like I think the letters type thing don't really have the same appeal. And remember, we go to the sanctuary now, you know, where good things happen. So I think that's kind of out. The question is, do people pick the food over the advantage?

[00:28:37] And now what we do is sit out for food and then everybody else just goes for whatever the letters are, you know, where the advantage is or whatever. But yeah, I like this. It was different. And it goes very quickly. This endurance challenge that they did lasts like 12 minutes. Yeah. It goes by very fast. It's like a new era immunity challenge. I have not really kept track of who got what reward, but I feel like they're eating this season.

[00:29:04] Once we got past the seasonings, the rewards have gotten a lot better. You know, it's hard to not be better than salt and pepper. But yeah, I think last episode they had like a Chinese takeout. They had ice cream as well. They had a cheeseburger. They had a merch feast. They had a merch feast.

[00:29:24] Then we went from the merch feast to then they had trying to remember from these last couple episodes of then. Yeah. And then they also had in one of the challenges where you could drop out of the challenge and eat. And I'm trying to remember if that was the same time that half the people had just had Chinese food. And then you could drop out of the challenge and then four people ate then. And then they had ice cream. Yeah.

[00:29:54] And now there's another thing to eat. Yeah. Even the time when they could drop out, it was like pizza. It was an array of different items. Because I remember thinking, I don't want to know a Survivor pizza. And I was like, well, hold on. Those wings do look good. It was like drumsticks. It wasn't even wings. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. We know Joe is going to go eat soon. Oh, he's going to eat a lot. He's going to eat a lot. Yeah. They are fed here. And I don't really know why, but I guess you owe them. Right? You've been out here. They all have infections.

[00:30:23] They've been dying from heat exhaustion. You know, throw them an extra cheeseburger. I wonder if that's a thing where maybe Dr. Rupert was like, hey, you know what will help these people? Like, if they get some like three square meals. Dr. Rupert heard that he got the phone call yesterday. It's like, oh, so how's the day going? Oh, yeah. It was great. They enjoyed their ice cream reward. Huh? Yeah. Yeah. They had an ice cream reward. You gave them dairy. Like a lot of dairy out there. And I told you it was hot, right?

[00:30:53] Like I told you. He's like, yeah, but like, you know, it's Survivor. It's a celebration. It's only our 31st slash second season. I've also noticed that the contestants are more bandaged up. Aubrey has like a big bandage on her leg. Debbie, I noticed that she was having like an infection on her shoulder. And then I saw that she had like been bandaged up. So I do think that they're getting a little more proactive in terms of like, hey, we've lost a lot of people so far.

[00:31:21] Sometimes it takes, you know, bumping into a wall a couple of times before you figure out your path. And I think that's really what happened here. I think a lot of the changes that we see are probably going to be due to the stuff that happens in Korong. Yeah. So we're going to do the challenge. You're going to hold the urn with your leg. And we have two people competing for love. It's Julia versus Joe, our oldest contestant, our youngest contestant. Who needs love more?

[00:31:51] Julia needs love more because Joe lasts roughly 30 seconds. Yeah. And Julia said this is the longest she's ever gone without talking to her parents. And so she wins the letter from home. It was so fast. She beat him immediately. Yeah. Yeah. This is a very nerdy thing. There were like notes on the all the different challenges of who is competing for what. And I noticed that there was a font that is used. Do you notice this at all?

[00:32:21] No. That there's I don't know if it's a Korong font or it's just a font that we were using at this particular point in Survivor history. It's like very 60s. Check it out next time you see something written. I will. I will. Wonder why they go with that. Survivor has a font and and through most of Survivor history we use the Survivor font but it's like they were trying something new out here. Hmm.

[00:32:49] I don't know why but I'll check it out. Was it was it look cool or was it just different? It was interesting like where it was a font where it was like the things that hang underneath. Is that is that a serif? I'm not sure. Maybe not. The part like like a lowercase like G like might go like the G might like underline the thing. Right. Right. Right. Okay. So yeah it was what is the descender or something like that or the tail I guess. Yeah. A lot of tails. A lot of tails. Okay.

[00:33:18] And I don't know if that's just something specific and unique to the Korong logo. Hmm. I don't know. I promise you I never even noticed that. So I'll have to go back and take a look after we're going to talk about this. There's something here that they don't necessarily know. I don't see it as much in the actual survivor Korong logo but take a look at that and see if you notice anything there. Then okay then we play who is playing for the burger.

[00:33:47] What was it Michelle versus Jason and Scott? Yeah. And Michelle wins here and good on her. You know she Scott's out first then Jason and then she gets the burger. We see her there's like munching along while everybody's doing the challenge still. Yeah. Michelle and Jason and Scott they are always going after the food at these different rewards. I think they all jumped off at the same time to go and eat the pizza and wings during the last challenge. And then we have people competing for the advantage.

[00:34:16] I think it is just Aubrey and Sydney and Ty. Yes. And you know Aubrey, Sydney and Ty this is a good battle you know because they're all pretty good. When I think about Aubrey like I remember when we were doing the draft going into season 50. I think about this episode a lot when it comes to Aubrey not so much about the strategic stuff she did but physically. Aubrey's no slouch in the challenges. And you know you start to really see it here. Yeah. She's like she's like dancing with coach.

[00:34:45] You know but it's like right here you can really start seeing the brawny part of her. And then of course they highlight it later on when she does the second endurance challenge and it goes pretty well for her. Yeah. She comes in second in both challenges right. Yeah. Yeah. Top two. Yeah. No no I don't wait. No. She came in third this time I believe because I think it was Ty versus Sydney again. No it was Ty versus Aubrey. You're right. It was Ty versus Aubrey.

[00:35:10] The last immunity challenge was Ty versus Sydney and then this is then Aubrey goes toe to toe with Ty and loses and then Aubrey goes toe to toe with Jason and loses. Yeah. Later on Jason will be like well the people winning all the challenges are me and Ty. I was like that's not okay fine whatever you can have it. You can have that. Yeah. So Ty is going to get the advantage. She gets an extra vote.

[00:35:37] Remember when they would get like one extra vote in the whole season? Deep sigh. I mean this will not be the last time Ty has a late stage advantage that will ruin my life. No I'm joking. This time it doesn't bother me but that game changer one is a doozy. Rob in this year of this show being filmed there are three different extra vote advantages in the mix right?

[00:36:00] Because the show was filming before Worlds Apart aired or you know and the show and then after I mean I guess it filmed before Cambodia aired. Steven had an extra vote. Dan Foley had an extra vote. And Ty had an extra vote. All back to back to back. And then I don't know if they get an extra vote in Game Changer. I guess that's the... So I believe Steven got a steal a vote.

[00:36:25] So they get an extra vote here and then Dan Foley had the extra vote. And then Steven I think has the first ever steal a vote. And then it becomes the legacy advantage for Game Changers like less than a year later. I think that Sarah ends up getting a legacy advantage and also the steal a vote. I think that if I remember correctly that Michaela sits out of the challenge in Game Changers and that's the steal a vote.

[00:36:53] And then she's mad that she's not in the challenge and she doesn't see it. And then Sarah sees it when she gets up. And Sarah gets up. Yeah. And Sari tried to use the steal a vote. Okay. Yeah. Now it's making sense. Yeah. So this is around the time when we start doing these shenanigans. So I guess we should blame... No, we still got to blame words apart. We can't blame Coran for this. The 30s really becomes...

[00:37:19] You know, I thought the 30s would be the advantage era when we end up... That was the last season of the Evolution Strategy that we did where we talked about Dan Foley got the extra vote and I really felt like, okay, well, the 30s I think is really going to be the era of these advantages being more in play. I wouldn't say exactly that it was. Really, that kind of became the 40s was much more of an advantage era.

[00:37:49] Although we did have advantage get-in in Survivor Game Changers. And Ghost Island is just advantage island, right? Like that's the whole point of Ghost Island. And Island of the Idols, you're going to the Island of the Idols to get an advantage. So no, you're not wrong. I think this was the advantage era and then the new era just kind of took it and just dug it into the ground, you know? And now the open era is going to do some stuff too and we just have to wait and find out what that is. Yeah, it is interesting.

[00:38:18] But Survivor 30 starts and we have our first ever advantage and we see an extra vote. By season 39, we have a whole island full of how to give out a new advantage every week. By season 40, we have a currency system with fire tokens where you can buy advantages from people. You know, I think we really just kind of went off the cliff with this one. Looking back, it's easy to spot. And maybe in the real time, we were saying like, do you think this is getting out of control?

[00:38:47] But by 40, yeah, we had gone- You know, the whole time we were boiling. We should have started to say stuff around this time. Code Wrong should have been when we put our foot down. Like, hey, a super advantage, I mean a super idol and a still vote in the same season seems like a little much. Yeah. Julia Sokolowski gets her letter from home and she might have been the first person ever.

[00:39:17] We need to fact check this. It's a very like new era trope of like, oh wow, my family, they miss me so much. And because of that, I got to make a big move. I got to make a big move. I read this letter. Everybody's rooting for me. I need to make a big move. I got to do something. This is, you know, the long distance version of what happens in the Philippines with Lisa Welchel. You know, her brother comes in like, so you just want to lose to Malcolm? She's like, oh, I probably shouldn't do that. I probably should not do that.

[00:39:46] Okay, I should probably do something. I should start making moves. That's crazy. Okay, bet. This time, Julia just gets that via mail. Yeah. Snail mail. This is one of the seasons, I don't believe we have a loved one's visit here in Code Wrong, right? Yeah. I don't know. I have no clue. I don't think so. That's crazy that I don't know that. Why not? I don't remember it. Is it because everybody's getting infections? They don't want to see anybody, like people out there? I think this was an era where they weren't doing them.

[00:40:14] So that they, you know, that they have the loved ones visit with Dawn and Karamo. And then obviously we don't have it in Blood vs. Water because the loved ones are already there. In Kageon, they just like bring the final fours loved ones out to compete in the challenge. They don't have, then they do Blood vs. Water again. So we don't have it in 29. And then in 30, I think that just Mike Holloway's mom comes to Nicaragua. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I guess it was close enough to North America where they had everybody's like loved ones

[00:40:44] standing by and flew them in. And then they don't have it here. And then it comes back in a big way in Second Chance with everybody, you know, Val comes and it's a whole thing. And I think that that really, I give Jeremy the credit for he really like kickstarted like the 30s had all these big loved ones visits that were like a staple of the season. And I think that it was really because the Second Chance one was so good that they made it like, oh, we have to do it every single season.

[00:41:13] And they do it all the way through when we get to 40 culminating in everybody's loved ones and everybody else you've ever met. Yeah. No, that's a good point. I never thought about it because, yeah, you're right. After this season, Millennials vs. Gen X is going to pop up and that's going to be like a big moment for the loved ones visit. Right. So, yeah. Interesting. I hadn't thought about it before. I mean, as long as cut to we don't have loved ones visit next week, I don't think they did have loved ones visit in this season.

[00:41:43] That's crazy. But you're right. Once, I mean, you have even, even the choice to have them come out for Cambodian is cool. I don't know if it's like something that, you know, it's kind of like, okay, these are returning players. So, you know, we're going to give them that respect. But yeah, they break the mold there. That loved ones visit is very good. And then, you know, we will go on to see really big moments with Adam Klein's loved one visit. And then, like you said, leading up to like the most epic loved ones visit at all time

[00:42:10] with all the people come and your whole family's there. But yeah, for some reason, Coran just gets skipped in the mix. Yeah. Listen, it's a season that gets the short shrift in a lot of ways. It's a season that they said, you know what? Let's put this on the shelf. Let's just like, we'll get to it when we get to it. And we'll, let's just put on, we got this other season we did. Let's put that one on first. Yeah. The more I think about Coran, the more I know that it was like heavily spoiled. Because think about it.

[00:42:39] How many seasons of Survivor could just sit on a shelf for about a year with nobody? Nobody knew. Nobody told anybody. Y'all, this group right here, these crazy people we're talking about just been sitting on this information. Ain't no way. Ain't no effing way. No chance. No chance. All right. So we do get a mention of Michelle. Aubrey thinks that Michelle doesn't see Julia for the threat that she is. But Aubrey does. Aubrey has had her eyes locked on Julia ever since she wrote her name out and crossed it off. Yeah.

[00:43:08] She never crossed it off her list. She got to get her before Julia gets her. And then, like I said, it's, you know, relatively clear to everybody that Julia is playing both sides. Even if she wasn't, they think she is. And so she might as well be. So yeah, Aubrey's like, look, we got to get Julia out. And Julia is trying to take a strategic stance in this episode. She's the one who kind of comes up with the split. She says, okay, we'll vote for Ty if Ty plays the idol. Oh, well, Sydney goes home. That's not bad for everybody, right? Let's do it.

[00:43:34] And then it slowly becomes, well, maybe, well, Scott kind of just turns it to Aubrey at some point. But yeah, Julia was the strategic mastermind in this episode at first. I think she was sharper than I remembered. I still don't agree with the things that she has done. I think she understands what's going on. I just think she's doing it poorly. You know, like flipping to the guys' alliance last round with no numbers is crazy to me. And again, she apparently put up a good enough ruse to that Debbie didn't think that she flipped.

[00:44:03] But everything, everybody else's confessional since the moment she flipped is like, Julia has flipped. Julia has flipped. Even Julia's confessionals are, I have flipped. So yeah, she seems like she has a good mind for the game. But some of the tactics she's using, I don't think, are effective. Pretty good for, what, is she 19? 19 or 20. Yeah, very young. And I think Sydney's like 22. I think the people in the game right now are relatively young. Yeah. Summer routines live or die by how easy they are.

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[00:45:01] Let's talk about Aubrey with Ty. She does really great work here. And she goes to Ty. And you mentioned they don't have a close connection. But she gives them the we have to talk, Ty. And she tells them that the girls want you and your idol out. Yeah. And, you know, this is good information from Aubrey because she's trying. And it is a risk, right? Because Ty could easily be like, oh, guess what, y'all? Aubrey said y'all come to vote for me.

[00:45:30] You know, like he could have the numbers. He has the idol. You know, she's playing like walking like a tightrope here. Because if Ty doesn't react to this positively, she basically goes home. But from her point of view, she's probably going home anyway, right? If Ty's not with her now, then either her or Sydney is going home and there's nothing they can do about it. So you might as well just like throw it all at the wall and see what happens. She had a little bit of a sixth sense. I think that Ty was open to working with her.

[00:45:59] I think she was getting the vibes that he was open to it because she kind of has to do this in two parts. She goes to Ty and says, hey, the girls want your idol out. And so we like, why don't we work together? And he's like, you know what? This is great. I love this plan. I mean, let me let me go back and talk to the guys and I'll talk to the guys. And I think they're going to like this. And he tells us that I think that Scott and Jason are really going to like this plan about working with Aubrey.

[00:46:29] And we see him go talk to Scott and Jason. And he's like, hey, guys, guess what? I talked to Aubrey and she said they're going to try to vote me out so we could work with her. And they said, you know, oh, you know what we should do? We should vote on Aubrey. Yeah. Yeah, this is great. Because Aubrey says, Ty, you and I should work together. And Ty's like, great. Let me go tell all my friends that we're all on the line. And she's like, wait, no, that's not exactly what it's like. No, no, no, no. I got it. Let me go talk to them. They're going to love this. And you can see the panic on his face.

[00:47:00] It reminds me of, oh, God, is it Heroes vs. Villains? Where I think it's Coach who comes over like, hey, like, what are we doing? We can't do this. We can't vote. And they're like, oh, what if we just vote out Buster Rob now? Russell Hanson's like, yeah, let's just vote him out. They're like, yeah, we can do that. And Coach, you could see the fear on Coach's face like, wait, that's not what I was talking about. Same thing happens here. Ty is sitting there saying, Aubrey is in our alliance. And they're saying, no, we're voting her out. But thanks for the information.

[00:47:30] And I think this is another one of those moments that Ty will look at and say, they don't really value me here. And so my opinion is not being heard. I'm obviously the odd man out. They're going to pick each other over me. They're not giving me an extra piece. Maybe Julia should be that extra piece for him. But he can tell that he's not really being respected in the moment too much. And I think it's probably apparent to everybody else on the beach too, Rob. Because I know you said Aubrey has a sixth sense.

[00:47:54] But you have to imagine while these boys are stomping around, putting out fires and stuff, Ty is not standing there like, yeah, I agree. He's probably in the corner sitting there pouting a little bit. Yeah, they can read him. Hey, you guys. Are you sure you want to do that? They're like, shut up, Ty. We're bullies now. I'm like, okay. Yeah. F-ing balk and skull running the tribe. And Ty's just sitting there in the background, you know? Yep. Ty, I got a plan. How about we're going to vote on Aubrey? No. No. No.

[00:48:24] No. No. No. Okay. So Scott is liking this plan. They're going to vote on Aubrey. And that sets up that Aubrey's in trouble at the immunity challenge. And we end up with, you know, a really fun showdown at the end where it ends up, we end up with Aubrey, Sydney versus Jason. Sydney drops out. And it's Aubrey versus Jason. And this is like a fun heads up duel.

[00:48:54] I love the heads up duel. Every time it happens. You know, whether it's Christian and Alec or this. I love when you get the two people. I picture as well. I think it's San Juan del Sur where Natalie Anderson is spitting. Yeah. I think. Well, this has spit also, this one. Yeah. Yeah. Reed spits. And then Natalie tries to spit. And she ends up like, like hocking a loogie on her shirt. It just gets all over her. Yeah. Jeff's like, that was unfortunate. Yeah.

[00:49:21] But this time around, Aubrey's got this badass bounty hunter on one side and an NBA player on another side. And they're all spitting it. She's Aubrey with the boys. Yeah. She's feeling it. She's like sort of, she's like bouncing around. And so this is a good Aubrey moment. In my mind, she wins this immunity. I was like really surprised when she dropped out and Jason won immunity. Same. I always think about this as the Aubrey challenge because maybe it's the most impressed I was with her physically throughout.

[00:49:49] But when we were talking about 50, I was like, oh yeah, Aubrey's good at individual challenges. Yeah. In my mind, I felt like that she wins like three immunities in Survivor Co. Wrong. I know that she says in Survivor 50 that she only, I think she's only won one other immunity challenge, obviously, before she wins at the final four in Survivor 50. But in my mind, I feel like that she was like, oh, she's like a comp threat. She is right there at the end in a lot of these challenges. I think she does end up winning one of them, which we haven't seen yet. But she's feisty.

[00:50:20] Yeah. No, she can go. She's not bad in the water. You know, we've seen a lot of aspects of Aubrey and she's never, it doesn't look like she's holding the tribe back at all. And so, yeah, now that they're in the individual stage, I thought, I too thought Aubrey was going to win a couple. Now, mind you, maybe she could, but she does not know. There's a sleeping giant over there being hidden from all of us in the edit. And she's about to show up and just start demolishing people in some immunity challenges.

[00:50:45] Yeah, Michelle is going to win more challenges down the stretch, but we have not seen Michelle as a challenge competitor yet. The one time they really highlighted Michelle was that she was not good in one of the diving challenges. Which is crazy because Michelle is really good in the water. I watched her season of one of the most recent seasons of the challenge. And like the final challenge was, I say 75% swimming. I'm not even joking. Like every, between every challenge they did, they had to swim basically like a mile.

[00:51:14] And Michelle was in second place through most of that. And against some of these like challenge veterans of, you know, of 20 years and stuff like that. Michelle was in the mix. I think, I want to say she came in second overall. And so knowing that now, looking back, I'm like really, you know, it makes more sense to me now. You know, the Michelle immunity run. But yeah, I think Michelle's probably underrated in her challenge ability. Okay. So the guys come back and you see Jason celebrating. All three of us are safe. I have immunity and we have two idols.

[00:51:44] It's perfect. How do you? We don't talk about this enough. We don't talk about. Rob, I don't know. I don't know who I got to talk to. Peridium, if you're listening, when you go make these like list of boneheaded things, we need to move this one up the ranks. Because again, a two person alliance had two idols and one of them went home and they knew they were getting votes.

[00:52:09] They were aware they were getting votes and still did not play their idol and had the nerve to be mad at Ty for not saving them. You could have saved yourself. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Have you thought about saving yourself? Yeah. Yeah, you called him Ozzy. Yeah, Scott does have, he has his own idol. He has, he didn't even find that idol. Jason gave him his idol.

[00:52:36] Y'all stole that woman Alicia's idol and then had the nerve to get voted out with it. Just despicable. If they don't have, if they weren't villains before this moment, they definitely are now. Because what are you doing? Squandering things. All right. So Aubrey is talking with Sydney and they're saying like, we could go for Scott or Jason here, but we need to get Ty. And so we see once again, now we go back to Ty about what are you going to do, Ty? Are you going to join us?

[00:53:06] Are you going to come with us to vote out Scott or Jason? He's like, I don't know. They're kind of scary. I don't know. They are scary. They are scary. They're destroying camp life and I don't really like that. But, you know, the girls are voting for Ty or at least Michelle and Julia are going to vote for Ty. So Aubrey's trying to whip these votes to be Aubrey, Joe, Sydney and Ty. So their four votes will win the day.

[00:53:34] And we go to tribal council hanging on. What's Ty going to do? Yeah. Yeah. And it's crazy because there's like a ton of different things that people think are about to happen because Julia and Michelle are sitting there thinking Ty is going to play his idol at the very least. He'll be safe. And then whoever the boys vote for, probably Sydney is going home. Like they're fine losing Sydney here or Aubrey. I'm sure they know it's Aubrey at this point because Julia is playing double agent. But regardless, they're OK with that happening.

[00:54:04] So Aubrey, of course, uses that to be like Sydney, you and Joe, we're all voting for them, for the other guy, because there's no way that, you know, we're going to both survive this if we don't. And so it's like Aubrey and Sydney didn't have a lot of options at this point. Like this was pretty much the only move on the board is vote for the other one. We'll go to tribal council. Jeff IDs that Ty is more quiet than normal. More quiet than in the past when he's telling people about the idols.

[00:54:34] You remember Aubrey's sixth sense? Yeah, Jeff got it too. Ty looks miserable. Jeff's like, Ty, it looks like you're not having fun. And Ty's like, what? Huh? Me? Having fun? Yeah, I don't know what this is. Survivor ain't fun. A cruise is fun. Yeah, maybe Jason and Scott, they could have also gotten a clue here that Ty all of a sudden is looking like he has to put down Mark the Chicken. Yeah, Jeff calls it out. Like, hey, guys, Ty doesn't look like he's having a great time here.

[00:55:04] If you know you're about to get out your target, I think you look a little bit happier here. Especially because Ty in the confessional talks about how this is war. This is war. And I have to vote with the guys because that's what we do when you're at war. So it sounds like he's telling us that he's in on it. But somewhere in the day, since the Aubrey conversation, it seems like it's really started to weigh on him. And, you know, he also knows that Michelle and Julia are voting for him. So it's not like he should be too eager to work with them either.

[00:55:34] So both sides have kind of pushed Ty right into Aubrey's arms. And she's been there welcoming him every step of the way. You know, so there's a great moment at the end of the episode where, okay, that Jeff asked, does anybody want to play the idol? And so you see Julia is saying to Ty, play the idol. Ty is saying, or Scott is saying, don't play the idol. Don't play the idol. We need like saving it. So I want to go back to that.

[00:56:02] We said that Julia and Michelle were voting for Ty here. So I'm curious in terms of that. Did they, when they thought that the girls were also voting for Ty, did Julia want Ty to play the idol? So that the votes that Jason and Scott were casting for Aubrey would have taken Aubrey out of the game.

[00:56:31] For her, she, when she brought up the plan, she originally, it was originally on Sydney. It was going to be Sydney was the one who's going to catch these votes if Ty played as idol. But you're right. At this point in the game, she does know that the guys are probably voting for Aubrey. So if Ty plays the idol, Aubrey goes home. But I think she's more hellbent on getting the idol out of the game. She puts the idol out. But it's actually a little more clever than like where Julie, I thought that Julia and Michelle, okay, they just were like left out of the vote.

[00:56:59] But I think that they were in on an alternative plan with Jason and Scott that, okay, if Ty plays his idol, then he doesn't go home, but he will stay. And a bigger threat, Aubrey or Sydney, ends up going out of the game based off of what Scott and Jason are doing. Yeah. Yeah. They were always pitching that it was going to be Sydney from jump, you know? So I think they were hoping for that, you know?

[00:57:26] It's like, yeah, we can, we'll deal with Ty later on, but we really need to figure out a way to get out Sydney. And then when it came, Aubrey's like, yeah, that too, that'll work as well. But again, they vote for Ty here. And if he doesn't play his idol, it's still no love lost, right? Like, okay, like the four of us voted for Ty, he's going home. But they only got two votes. Yep. And then the votes come up and it's Scott. And we just have that great moment where everybody's looking around. Anything?

[00:57:57] You going to play it? And Ty's like, nah. He's like, damn. That's crazy. I'm not going to. That's crazy. Especially because now we get Scott in confessional, like, or his little exit interview, like, damn, I got this idol right here. I was like, oh, you fool. You, you, because you looking at Ty, like, don't play your idol. Don't play your idol. But at no point did it occur to you that you should play yours? His reaction to Ty not playing the idol is like, wow. Wow.

[00:58:28] Crazy. Scott, he voted for you. Why? The man, I just want. You should force people to watch a season of Survivor before they go on the show. And I just, and there's like, and pick Co-Rong of all seasons. Pick Co-Rong. That'll be the season. That's the BB-16 of Survivor from now on, or at least in the old era it was. Because Scott doing this makes no sense. Your reaction should not be that big.

[00:58:54] When you saw you had four votes, you should have said, Ty, what? You should have had your Michaela reaction then. But to be sitting here thinking like, we got you. We got you now. I was like, do the math, kid. He did not vote with you. And this is Ty getting, Ty got one over on them twice, remember? Because he did get away with the Nick vote as well. He's like, yeah, I voted for Debbie. So yeah, they just didn't have a good read on Ty whatsoever.

[00:59:22] What's been your perspective on Scott now that we've watched him across these 10 episodes? He's a despicable character. But he's entertaining. You know, I wasn't bored by him by any stretch of the imagination. He's very memorable. Yeah. I think there were parts where he was warm in the episodes, but. There was part. There were, he had some lighter moments for sure. I think I probably, in my mind, remember him being worse.

[00:59:52] He had some moment. I think. No, he's pretty bad, Rob. I can't. Like, do I remember him worse? Yes. But I do also think that is compounded with the way the final tribal council goes to. Because it's like, right now he's a villain. By the end of this, you're like, he's a bitter villain. And that's kind of like a little tacky. But I think that there was a point when he was by himself, where he was not with Jason in the middle of his run, where he was like pretty.

[01:00:22] It was there was a lightness to him. Yeah. When they're separate, they're OK-ish, you know, but together, they're a gruesome twosome. And so, yeah, he goes here. And it's a good exit for a villain, right? Like, this is one of those, like, this is a villain that told you his master plan and gave you just enough time to unlatch yourself. And then, like, he's hoisted by his own. But whatever Stephen be saying. You know, so I really think that this was exactly what this was, right?

[01:00:51] This is the downfall you get for somebody who's playing so dastardly. So I know you listened to some of his exit press. What was he saying? I listened to the exit press and he was basically. Oh, he said. I thought this was very entertaining. He said, I was betrayed by every single person I was ever aligned with. And I was like, say more things. And he says, yeah, even in the first vote, the first time we had to vote out Jennifer Lanzetti, Jason was the first person who betrayed me. I thought we were voting for.

[01:01:21] Thought we were voting. Going to keep Jennifer. Jennifer. But he wanted to vote her out because she was acting crazy at Tribal Council. But I was like, no, we need her. We should get rid of Sydney. She's 23. She's going to flip on us. And Jason wouldn't listen. And now to this day, we laugh about it. Not even Alicia that he wanted to leave with Sydney. He said, I don't even know if he wanted Sydney out. But he told Jason then, we can't trust Sydney. And, of course, they vote out Jennifer Lanzetti there.

[01:01:49] And then from there, you know, I guess Sydney will go on to burn him. And he'll blame Sydney for the downfall of his game. But, yeah, that was pretty much the most entertaining part of that exit interview for me. Was that, like, he's like, yeah, all of my allies were betraying me. Are you crazy? I think that the relationship with Scott and Sydney, I think, was always bad. I did an interview with Sydney last year. And I asked her about who she talks to. And I think she implied that she didn't talk to somebody.

[01:02:18] And I asked who it was. And I was like, oh, is it Jason? She's like, no, she loves Jason. But it was Scott that she seemed to have no love for Scott. Yeah. She was 23 at the time. And Scott's, like, telling Jason, like, you can't trust her. She's young. You know, and she's a bodybuilder. She's self-interested. And so she probably just, like, could tell that he was trying to draw a wedge between the two of them throughout.

[01:02:47] And so maybe that's what it was. They probably never got on the same page at that point. I also looked up before we came on. I knew Scott had had some health troubles in recent years. He needed a heart transplant. I think that when he talked about his dad earlier in the season, his dad passed away when he was 16. I think that that was the issue with his dad. But it seems like that in recent years, in the last two years, he got a heart transplant. And so I think Scott is doing okay now.

[01:03:16] I think I remember reading about that, actually. And he's a big guy. He probably had a big old heart to take care of him. Yeah. I had seen some things where I think that he was really, like, you know, it looked maybe, like, you know, pretty dire. But all the recent searches I see, I see that, you know, he's returned home after this heart transplant where he nearly died in 2024.

[01:03:47] Yeah. That's, that's, that sucks. You know, again, he's 6'11", 315 pounds by the time he needs that transplant. So, you know, his heart's already doing a lot of work right there. So, yeah, I'm glad that he, you know, listen, dastardly character, but you don't ever want to hear somebody who went through some health problems like that. So I'm glad he bounced back. Yeah. Okay. Chappelle, anything else that you'd say about episode 10? Crazy episode. Crazy episode TV. Again, kudos to editors.

[01:04:15] I think they really just, like, line it up and make it a great episode. Yeah. It makes you, like, kind of wonder where this season is going to go next because the numbers have kind of, like, evened themselves out a little bit more. You know, like, they're knocking people off of both sides. And it's really crazy to watch this knowing that Aubrey and Michelle are on a collision course that are really going to define the later stages of Survivor. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's, you know, the fun showdown that we are headed towards.

[01:05:13] We're really 10 episodes in. They're not getting a lot of screen time in the early stages. Ty obviously is, but Michelle never gets shown. Julia, like, I think I was listening to the exit interview and I think you mentioned Julia being purple or something like that. Yeah. And I was like, damn, if Julia's purple, what the hell did that make Michelle? You know? Some of them are not even on the show. And so, yeah, now we've gotten to the late stage and we're at the final seven. And at least three of those people probably are at the bottom of the confessional chart. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right.

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