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[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Hi everybody and welcome back to TV for Real where reality and scripted TV collide.
[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: My name is Mike Bloom. I'm joined as always by Sasha Joseph.
[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Sasha, how's it going?
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_06]: So ready. I need my fix.
[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_06]: So we had to get things moving today.
[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, I'm ready to be here.
[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the person we're talking with today knows a thing or two about needing a fix and...
[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, come on. Low-hanging fruit, Mike. Jeez.
[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we are. We have come to the tree of Hannah Rose for all types of fruit
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_03]: as we are going to talk about her tastes in scripted television.
[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So happy to have you here. How are you?
[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_04]: So glad to be here. So pumped.
[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Anyone that knows me knows that my love language is watching shows with the person I'm dating or in this case married to.
[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_04]: So this is great.
[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Was there a connecting show between you and your now husband, which we should say congrats on your recent wedding?
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much. I know I'm like, I might have lost Lost.
[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I might have quit Survivor in this completely embarrassing way, but someone loves me and that's important.
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think for me a big test in the relationship was are you willing to watch all seasons of Lost with me?
[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Because Lost, here's a Lost one too, is like one of my favorite shows of all time.
[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And he said yes.
[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And so we proceeded to watch every show that I am like obsessed with in a row.
[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, OK, this could work.
[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_04]: He's him. I love that he's your constant.
[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_04]: What a great reference.
[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, we need to talk about this because Hannah, when you and I met in person last fall, you showed this up to me.
[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And it was really, you know, talking about not mistaking coincidence for fate.
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, as someone who is a devout follower of Lost, talking about it, you know, ad infinitum alongside Josh Wigler.
[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Talk to me about when you got into the show and what got you into the show.
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my God. I don't even remember how old I was.
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty sure it was on TV. So it was like week to week waiting period.
[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember that about Lost and about Grey's Anatomy and the OC.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Those are like, yeah, millennial up in this booge.
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Lost. And honestly, I do think subconsciously my love and affinity for Lost is why I was like, I have to go to the island.
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And even now I'm sometimes like I have to go back, even though I don't want to go back because like being marooned on an island is so lusty.
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And I know that Charlie from Lost or Charlie from Lost is a survivor fan.
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I need him to know that I exist. So I just I loved everything about it.
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the psychology, the challenges of surviving, ironic and everything about it.
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And there are naysayers who shit on the ending.
[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And to them, I say you just don't have the capacity to hold the space for this show.
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Say it again, say it louder.
[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you have any favorite characters, any consistent ones?
[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Because also as a therapist, I would imagine like all these people have issues out the wazoo that must be so fun to analyze.
[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, rewatching it as an adult, like after clinical training.
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_04]: There's when I was teaching at a college, I was teaching at Formal Psych.
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_04]: What I had them do for their main project was watch a show and diagnose a character and write up a whole case conceptualization.
[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_04]: So they loved it. And I loved it because I was like shows like I love shows.
[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_04]: So not pathologizing any of them. I mean, such a basic bitch here.
[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I love Sawyer. I mean, if I were to bear children, which I don't want to, I would name it Sawyer or Juliet.
[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Ooh.
[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I knew we had it first. But yeah, Sawyer, Charlie.
[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I was like a budding drug addict. Sober 13 years.
[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, so Charlie and his whole like, let me lowkey do heroin in the airplane bathroom.
[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, yeah, before I ever even like drank. But still, it resonated.
[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm obsessed with you.
[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_06]: This is so funny because for me, obviously, it was Saeed.
[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, representation minimal for us Indians. So here we're South Asians.
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_04]: So here we are. Also, Saeed is just objectively daddy.
[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, you can pull a nail or two off.
[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Like that, that's the zaddy calendar right there.
[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's the thing is that Lost was, you know, despite groundbreaking everything, it was a show on broadcast television in the early 2000s.
[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Like there were plenty of men to make that zaddy calendar.
[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You've got Desmond as well pulling off like the man bun look.
[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I my favorite episode of the whole series is The Constant.
[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course. And in my I don't know if you remember that on Facebook, there used to be like an about me place.
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And I would put quotes because like emo girl. And I put the letter that Penny wrote Desmond.
[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And that was in my about me on Facebook. So I was like, oh, I'm giving myself chills.
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I love shows.
[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_06]: And it wasn't even in the like, you know, when people wrote the notes, like that whole section that they took out.
[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah. But no, it's legitly in front and center.
[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah. I over identify with characters, shows are my life.
[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, so, yeah, I think there was something to it like with going on Survivor, like I'm going to be a character now.
[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And then it was like, oh, no. Well, so you talk about, you know, living through shows.
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_03]: What is the first show you remember that you were like really, really into the OC?
[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. The OC.
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_04]: My I had older sisters, and so they were really into it.
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember being really into the OC week to week.
[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And also, I think I was 16 when I started Grey's Anatomy, like on TV.
[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And I actually when I went to college declared pre-med again, delusional.
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe she is like it's giving delusional.
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I declared pre-med because of Grey's and Scrubs.
[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, shut up. Oh, my.
[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So which character on Grey's has like had this profound impact or was it just I love sex in break rooms?
[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Sex and break rooms. Was I a virgin at six? No, I wasn't.
[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, gross. I'm sorry, world. But whatever. I think that's pretty.
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I love it. But yeah, I think, you know, obviously, Mare, her whole.
[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I literally quoted her in some of my Survivor pregame interviews because I regrettably called Kendra a Pick Me Girl.
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wait. Pick Me's are a Grey's Anatomy reference?
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. Meredith Grey, Derek Shepard. So pick me, choose me.
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's the origination of the Pick Me Girl. Correct.
[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm still learning things about Grey's Anatomy every day I exist on this earth, it seems.
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I had no idea.
[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_06]: We did a whole episode where Kelly Wentworth and I went through each and every like ridiculous, you know, whatever ridiculous plot line.
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_06]: And we didn't even make it. I think we stopped at the shooting, but that was the hour basically.
[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Trauma. We went through it with Mike and that was Mike's face to hold.
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, it's pretty profound. I will say as someone who has been present for a shooting, weird fun fact about me.
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Right before we moved to Asheville, North Carolina, which is where I live now, we lived in Baltimore City and we went to go see the Hunger Games prequel, which was Fire.
[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And as soon as the movie ended, yeah, Catching Fire was the second one.
[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, obviously, but like if I need a Hunger Games fix, I'll go for that daddy, President Snow as a youth.
[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Whoa. I was so attracted to him. And yeah, anyway, there was a shooting and it was like super traumatic.
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It was this whole thing. And then we were like, we're moving. And we did.
[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I will say the Grey's Anatomy shooting double episode was more traumatic.
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. Wow. Wow. I can't even I beg that most people can't relate.
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah. I like that is so American.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I know. Just casually at a shooting. No one died. So I can like kind of joke about it.
[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's something. But yeah, those episodes, the introduction of McSteamy, which is really disturbing watching him in Euphoria.
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I didn't even I don't watch Euphoria. Well, his character is unwell. Is he a teacher?
[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_04]: He's like a pedophilic. Yeah. Like disgusting older man being a predator for trans women.
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was. So and I was like, McSteamy, no, like you are no longer a sexual fantasy.
[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think they killed you for a reason.
[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we talked about this last week with Danny from The Amazing Race.
[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I just don't understand. Look, a gig is a gig.
[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But if you're that actor, I'm known for being a heartthrob. You know, we'll really get people on my side.
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_03]: If I play this creepo depo, really show off my range like I know there's a cost benefit analysis that needs to be done with that.
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I know. I guess I guess it's an actor and it's your craft. Right.
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's your work and your vocation. Like he did such a phenomenal job because it's so cringy.
[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, really, he fell from grace for me. So now if I were to watch Grey's, I'm like, he's hot, but he's sick.
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Wow. Yeah. Oh, my. I'm trying to think because I feel like the Harry Potter kids like went on this weird thing as well.
[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Right. Where they were like, oh, we have to break out a Harry like our roles.
[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_06]: So we must do something totally outrageous.
[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. And Daniel Radcliffe had his dick out on Broadway.
[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly what I was thinking of. I was like, like, it's outrageous.
[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And poor Daniel Radcliffe also was battling a lot of stuff on set on the last.
[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Alcoholism. Yeah. Representation.
[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_06]: So it's great. Yeah. So that's what I think of is like, I just I think there's there must be some bridge that doesn't actually make sense.
[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And maybe folks shouldn't cross, but they do.
[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And I still love them for it, you know, because they are people at the end of the day.
[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_03]: There's some sort of need within them, whether it's the need to like show themselves in one way or a very different way.
[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah. Hundred percent. Anyway, all good shows.
[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Grey's. I don't think you're the only person, though, that probably got more into the medical professional world as a result of Grey's Anatomy.
[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And you're also probably not the only person to be like, oh, this isn't like the way it's shown on TV, because I think, yes, it was the early 2000s.
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_03]: The media had been around for a while, but still, I mean, it kind of romanticizes it a little bit.
[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely. Like you don't it's like Survivor.
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_04]: This is how I'm like traumatized I am by my three day experience. I'm like, everything comes back to Survivor.
[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_04]: So sorry. I know it's like also Survivor podcast.
[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_04]: This one isn't. But yeah, it's like you watch it on TV and there are these characters and you're like, I could do that.
[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's what I did with going premed and that's what I did with going on Survivor.
[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And when I watched Quantico, the ABC show. Yes.
[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I applied for the FBI. No, you're not saying no.
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_04]: You must say like something's wrong with me. My husband and I both did at the time.
[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_04]: This was like five or six years ago. And I was working as a counselor at a treatment center.
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, I just like applied for the FBI and got an interview.
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_04]: What was it? Well, it's just like a questionnaire.
[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And you know what I meant? Sorry. That like attracted you.
[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. To one thing, right? It's like hot people in boot camp and then got it.
[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_04]: We just finished binging, rebinging all eight seasons of Homeland.
[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you one of the greatest shows of all time? And I said to him, should we become like detectives and like maybe go to the CIA?
[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And he was like, something is deeply wrong with you. But yes.
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But sure. Sign me up. I'm intrigued by what you're talking about with the application process.
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_03]: This sounds like the Jeopardy test, like your fellow season 45 cast members just like, yeah, build this out.
[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_03]: If you pass enough questions, you move on to the next round. Yes. I mean, Survivor. Same thing.
[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like a 30 second video. And if you're funny or like in my case, wearing Invisalign and then taking it out in the middle of the thing.
[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you're so authentic. We should cast you. But I see why.
[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Like this is the stuff that I think gets people cast.
[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, is that when they're like, I watch Chronicle and I decided I could do it.
[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. Should maybe be a red flag? Maybe? No.
[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, for you as your yes and your growth. Correct.
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_06]: But I think unfortunately for us sick viewers that like to see, you know, almost naked starving people on an island.
[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah. I do love when they suffer. I love it.
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I really hope just as a side note, Andy finds the Yellow Tribes Immunity Idol just because chaos will ensue.
[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like suffering. Period. I love being on my couch with food watching Survivor. There's nothing better.
[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you mentioned Grey's, you mentioned Quantico. Are you really into a lot of those procedural shows or are more those more the exception than the rule?
[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I like a little bit of everything. I'm a scripted show, bitch.
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like there are some serial killer procedurals like The Fall, The Killing.
[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, 10 out of 10. I have a list of shows to watch next and then shows to rewatch like 24 is on there.
[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I do. I do love that. I don't listen to or watch true crime, but I watch a lot of crime shows.
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_04]: But I also love like Bridgerton and anything that Shonda Rhimes touches.
[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_03]: That's true. OK, give me your Bridgerton thoughts, because this is this is something that Sasha and I both have seen.
[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Interesting. OK, when season one first came out, loved it was like, am I in heat?
[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Like this was that. Yeah. Yeah. Like Jean, Rajay Paul or whatever his beautiful name is.
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I am monogamous, but I would make an exception.
[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like I was. Holy shit. I just loved everything about it.
[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And I loved the period piece of it. I just loved it. Season two, loved Queen Charlotte, gobbled it up.
[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Actually, someone who works on Survivor, like as a tech who I'm very close with, was like, you need to watch this.
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like sobbing watching it, texting her. And it was like this beautiful thing.
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_04]: The last season, haven't even finished it.
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think I kind of ruined it for myself because I forced my husband to watch Bridgerton season one.
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_04]: As I do, I'm like, I liked it. We need to watch it together now.
[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And thought and rewatching season one a few years later, I was kind of like.
[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't love it. Like this isn't doing it for me anymore, and I don't know what changed.
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_06]: No, I think according to me, at least how I feel, because I I didn't read the books.
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I just watched the show and I was like, oh, this is hot. This is cute.
[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_06]: He like Duke, please, you know, when like call me. Right.
[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Also, I'm also monogamous, but reality and fiction.
[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_06]: So anyway, I was watching it and then I watched it with my husband or rather.
[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, I was watching and then my husband is like, what are you what is this porn?
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, what's going on, ma'am? Why are you like daylight? What's going on?
[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, no, this is, you know, a show you should watch with me.
[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, trying to bond is and then he ruined it a little bit because he was pointing every plot hole.
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And so what Daphne was doing. So that happened.
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_06]: And then I read the second book and I said, oh, actually, she was that this is a child like Daphne Almond.
[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And it felt like she was just a little bit, a lot of bit unaware of said world,
[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_06]: because the second book you're like, oh, this is hot because they're both consenting.
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they're both into it. And, you know, the will, they won't they?
[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And friends to enemies is what or enemies to lovers is what is my favorite.
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's when I realized why didn't we like the second one?
[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I completely agree with that. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's also the line from season three that stands out, right?
[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_03]: With like the Featherington dotting sisters being like, put what where?
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that was Daphne's MO for the first season.
[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, this is how this works.
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And like there is a little bit of romantic aspect to it.
[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And maybe it's just because of the chemistry of the actors.
[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_03]: But when you look at it from more of an outsider perspective, it's like, oh,
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: there's a lot more education here than there is any sort of equal dynamic for sure.
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And also, like, so I'm a big reader as well.
[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was thinking about reading them and I'm like an avid Goodreads user.
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I review every book and I whatever. I'm like, very I'm a big reader.
[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And I went to look at the Bridgerton ones and the Goodreads reviews on the Daphne Duke one are like outrage because of rape.
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Because when she is like sitting on him, like, no, no, I don't want to, you know, bust a nut in you.
[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Can I say that on this show? You did.
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Fine, you already did. She's like, no. That nut is busted.
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And that nut busted. And anyway, so the readers were like, this is not OK.
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I didn't even think about that when I was watching it.
[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just like, she's going to have a baby.
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no, of course.
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I immediately we are in another life podcasted about Bridgerton and yeah,
[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_06]: that the reviews were low key coming after us because we were like, no, this is not OK.
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Just because he's like attractive and your husband that you can't do stuff like this.
[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_06]: So no, I'm with you.
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so that's I think the issue necessarily.
[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_06]: But season two, again, unfortunately, book is better or whatever, guys get over it.
[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm a reader. And but that's again, I just feel it's an exciting escapism and it feels like they're just older people.
[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, it always does.
[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_04]: It's always it's like the BuzzFeed articles that are like, how old are these actors in real life?
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like playing a 12 year old is 36.
[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_04]: You're like, never have I ever. Yeah.
[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Hannah Montana's brother. Yes. Like weirdly old.
[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And then like Nickelodeon documentary comes out, even though it was Disney.
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And you're like, oh no.
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that guy was in his 30s, I think, while he was on that show.
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah. Yeah.
[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Did you did either of you watch Never Have I Ever?
[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_06]: No, I watched the first season.
[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_06]: No, it's no book. The Mindy Kaling show.
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I was thinking of all the boys I loved. Yes.
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. Fair, fair, fair. Great.
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Another great movie. But no, never have I ever.
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Paxton Hall, Yoshida, who is the the hottie that the main character likes season one.
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm not spoiling anything. Who the main character proposes sex to actually to take her virginity.
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. The hot jock. And she's like corners him after swim practice and is like, so you want to meet up, Tess?
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Mind you, this Davy mess has no idea about the world.
[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like, OK, come over. And then she's like, oh, actually, I don't want this on your food.
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, but that's something valid. Yeah.
[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_06]: But she anyway, so I think you would like it. You should watch it.
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's a quick 30 minute like shows anyway.
[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_06]: But he plays. Yeah, he's 30 something now.
[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And and she was a teenager, like she was 17 when she was supposed to play.
[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. And they were kissing. Remember also like the outrage that happened in season eight, maybe of Game of Thrones, where Arya Stark, who like we've watched grow up.
[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember. Do you actually see her boobs or is she just like naked from the back?
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, but she's got to bang someone and people were like not OK with it.
[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, well, everyone's about to maybe die.
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's OK, but it's like we're sexualizing and it's like people have sex.
[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_04]: So we didn't see her nips that would have felt different.
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And if we did, I take it back. Sorry. No, I don't think I don't think we did.
[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It was just I remember it being odd because it's like, I don't know, it's almost like we're not there like uncles and aunts.
[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_03]: But we're like, we're sure the family, friend, uncles and aunts of like I watched you grow up and now I have to see you do this.
[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_03]: That's not what I signed off on. You're just that little girl that liked to play with Cereal Pharrell in King's Landing this entire time.
[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_03]: But also, like, listen, I think we already kind of crossed that bridge when she was just like mercilessly slitting people's throats, which like weirdly is more OK than sex.
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_04]: But also like season one, episode one, we're watching a teenage Daenerys get raped.
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And we all kept watching. Yep.
[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Did you watch or I'm sure maybe at least an episode I'm sure everyone has watched that 70s show, right?
[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Where Mila Kunis lies about her age. Oh, yeah.
[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Because she's 16 and they had to tell her, like, just lie that you're 16 because this is crazy.
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_06]: And everyone else obviously much older. Ashen Kutcher.
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Now look there. That's how she found the guy. They're happily together with their unbathed children.
[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Why was it? Storybook ending. Yes. Sorry. Question. You didn't know this?
[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Do you not know this? I'm on social media so I don't like know a lot.
[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. So I believe it was what last year, Sasha, like Mila Kunis and Ashen Kutcher just last year.
[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they did an interview where they were like they bathed their children every like three or four days.
[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_06]: And then it like a whole bunch of I feel like celebrities came out and was like, yeah, we don't bathe.
[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, twenty twenty one. Yes. But twenty twenty one. Wow.
[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Dax, Dax Shepard's podcast. And they again and they go, yeah, they talked about bathing and blah blah blah.
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And how they they think bathing their kids is so dumb.
[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. I didn't bathe for three days on Survivor and that was traumatic.
[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. And then she like went on Ellen to defend it. Like it's so funny.
[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I didn't know that was a thing. And I feel more well-rounded as a human now that I know.
[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's like the inner monologue question that came up like a couple of years ago where it's like,
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_03]: do you realize a frightening amount of people in the world either like do or don't believe?
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And to Sasha's point, like, I believe the quote that was said when they were talking about it on Dax's podcast,
[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_03]: like Dax kind of normalized. He's like, yeah, unless I see dirt on my kids, unless they're covered in grime,
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't wash them either. And it's like, am I am I the insane one?
[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Or are all these other very rich people the insane ones?
[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Right. They can afford good health care. There's a difference.
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_06]: It's true. That's true. Oh, my God.
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_06]: It just comes back to Bridgerton, right? But it's not actually.
[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_06]: But where all these folks, especially I think the British,
[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_06]: learned hygiene when they started colonizing all these other countries.
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't know if you've seen Shogun, but there's a whole thing storyline in Shogun because it's this white male.
[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like, do you want to shower? Because it's obvious he smells like everyone struggling.
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_06]: And this British guy and they're just like, maybe we get him to just go in the water.
[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Yeah. He's like, he's like, he's like, well, I took a shower three days ago.
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't need to shower again. And these Japanese, like these feudal Japanese people are insane.
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_04]: You could tell they're incensed. Oh, God. Do I need to watch Shogun?
[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I think you should. Yeah. I mean, listen, the Emmy voters say yes,
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_03]: considering that they just won a wholesale in so many ways.
[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I think so. I think you'd really enjoy it.
[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you're it's you know, the biggest barrier to entry is probably that so much of it is in Japanese.
[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And so you're relying a lot on some titles, but like that's a low bar to clear my opinion.
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watch most shows with subtitles anyway.
[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I can't hear what happens. There we go. There we go.
[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You're among friends. Especially the British shows like anything.
[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. I mean, side note, here's a show I watched recently that a friend told me to watch that I just like had never really heard about.
[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was so good. And I feel like more and more people need to watch it.
[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_04]: The sex lives of college girls. Oh, yeah.
[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_06]: What? Where was I? OK, so if you like that, you need to watch Never Have I Ever.
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_06]: That's a high school like with only one Indian girl.
[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_06]: But still, she's also with a white man, Mindy.
[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_06]: You will pay for your crimes. But yes.
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Who is your favorite? I'm sure I mean, so listen, I am a musical theater, Broadway.
[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Like my whole like Hamilton post, I am like I am musical theater.
[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And Renee Rapp, I mean, makes me question my sexuality on the rig.
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah. Come on, Leighton. I love it.
[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So then I have to ask, what do you think of the musical episode of Grace?
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, a random musical episode is hit or miss.
[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_04]: One of my favorite shows of all time, most profound impact is Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I am. It's got to be.
[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And the musical episode of Buffy went hard.
[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, it went hard. Yeah, I will stand by that forever.
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was so fricking good.
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_04]: The greatest musical episode.
[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it.
[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And also some of them can't sing.
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And so you're like, oh, it's like Russell Crowe in Les Mis.
[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And you're just like, there's this great YouTube video of like behind the scenes
[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_04]: before maybe the Oscars or the Tonys.
[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_04]: The whole cast of Les Mis singing and then Russell Crowe.
[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And someone is like tapping to the beat and he's still singing off beat,
[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_04]: like not in time with the music, a little bit off key.
[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And you're just like, Russell, get it together.
[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I as someone that can't sing and has great respect for people, I can say playback singing.
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_06]: What's going on? Have someone else singing.
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Again, Bollywood, that's all they do.
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_06]: None of those actors can sing.
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_06]: So I will never when I move to America again, very confused as to why these people need to sing
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_06]: and dance and do everything on.
[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_06]: It's OK. Just make that a favorite.
[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a YouTube video. I have to look it up, but I forget it.
[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_03]: We're like they go in depth into the issue that they did with that movie where obviously it was like,
[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, where they're going to be playing live alongside the actors.
[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So the actors can really feel their way through it and they can rephrase things if they want to
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_03]: and how it just like leads to terrible musicality because instead of a backing track,
[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_03]: now it's just all over the place because, oh, so and so decides to take a breath in this take
[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_03]: as opposed to the next take. And as a result, now it's all thrown off.
[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Interesting. That's crazy.
[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_04]: There's just a ramble on musicals.
[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Les Mis and shows the love of my life outside of my husband.
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_04]: His name is Aaron Tveit. Oh, yeah.
[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_04]: He's a Broadway star, but he was also in Les Mis, the curly haired one.
[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And he was also Nate Vanderbilt's cousin in the original Gossip Girl.
[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Trip Vanderbilt! Oh my God.
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_03]: So I know that it's two episodes of Gossip Girl in my life.
[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And one of them involved Aaron Tveit in there.
[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, Aaron Tveit was on this?
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my God. I saw him live in New York when he reprised his role as Christian in Moulin Rouge.
[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And I. Which time?
[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Like for the seventh or eighth time? No, not this most recent time, unfortunately.
[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Last time. Oh my God.
[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_06]: I said Cuba getting Cuba getting junior in Moulin Rouge in London.
[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Wild. Who did he play? The main character.
[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I forget the name. He can sing?
[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was good. I enjoyed it.
[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know that he can like sing, but it was good.
[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I have a weird Cuba thing and I feel badly that I think about this every time I think about him now,
[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_04]: because like Pearl Harbor's one of my all time faves and like Cuba is just a star.
[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_04]: There is a video. I think I watched it on.
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it was on last week tonight. It was on a scripted variety show.
[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's Cuba getting junior at a nightclub with the microphone in his hand in front of everyone.
[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And my husband and I say this all the time. This is really fucked up.
[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And you might have to edit it out. He just goes, somebody suck that baby's dick.
[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's all I'm going to junior. That's crazy.
[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Was there any context? Was there a. Yeah, I know.
[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Somebody suck that baby's dick.
[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait, shut up. There's.
[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the new show me the money. Impossible.
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I need that on a T-shirt. I'll be shot in North Carolina.
[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, you would. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_04]: That's not a good. I'm not condoning this. I'm so sorry.
[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God. Wild.
[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_03]: We just talked about celebrities, right?
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_03]: They have a certain niche that they need to fill and keep getting.
[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. That's something he needed to say.
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_04]: They're just like us.
[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just like the Jerry Seinfeld.
[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_06]: That's like cancel culture exists. Oh, no.
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I hate this. And it's like, meanwhile, they're saying all of this.
[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_05]: It's true.
[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I know.
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I got to ask him as a musical theater lover, I did this as well.
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Were you into smash? Were you into glee?
[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Was that what occupied your space in like the late 2000s, early 2010s?
[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Never seen smash in my life.
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Didn't know there was a musical aspect to it.
[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that is literally about making a Marilyn Monroe musical.
[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't know. I thought it was like about the army.
[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, I'm dead.
[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Is it like you're thinking of mash?
[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_04]: You're thinking of mash.
[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. Words like M.
[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I have not seen either.
[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I've never heard of smash somehow in my life ever.
[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. OK, so smash. It's starring Deborah Messing, Christian Borel,
[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Catherine McPhee, Megan Hilty.
[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, it's them making a Angelica Houston.
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_03]: They're making a musical. It's not mash.
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_03]: That's for sure. Alan Alda has no place in this.
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's bad.
[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a very bad show, but it's delightful to watch with how bad it is.
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. OK, so no. And glee.
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. Did I make my husband watch Glee as an adult?
[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_04]: You bet it. Did he begrudgingly like it?
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it is.
[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Loved Glee, would die for Glee. Also representation.
[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Corey Monteith, rest in peace.
[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_04]: That episode, the quarterback still.
[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Loved Glee. Watching the documentary about Glee was incredibly disturbing
[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_04]: because Puck was my favorite character and the super hot cheerleader.
[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's like so many of them have died.
[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Well, I mean, also speaking of talk about a person who's like 28
[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_03]: playing a 16 year old on TV.
[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But I did love Glee when it came out.
[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I loved Glee as an adult.
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I will sing Glee.
[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the Glee version of Don't Stop Believin'. Forever.
[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Mm hmm. I love that.
[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Did you have a show? Speaking of all these, I feel like it's just taking me back.
[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Did you have a show or have a show rather, I should say, comfort show
[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_06]: that you feel like you always reach for?
[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I think if I'm going through something like the last time,
[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to think of the last time I went through like a breakup
[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_04]: or something where I was like, I am unwell.
[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I guess Survivor airing.
[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I was pretty unwell and I couldn't watch Survivor for a while.
[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But what did I go to?
[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_04]: When did I rewatch Buffy?
[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I might have rewatched Buffy after Survivor
[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_04]: because I became friends with one of the hosts of.
[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, fuck. What's the Survivor podcast?
[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Drop Your Buffs.
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah. I sent him a picture of myself sobbing,
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I think during the series finale,
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_04]: because the co-host wrote a book about Buffy.
[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And so we like bonded.
[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, it's a whole thing.
[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I think Buffy would be a comfort show if I really needed something.
[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I haven't reverted back to like Dawson's Creek,
[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_04]: but I watched that after a breakup once.
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I think The Office always like,
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I know millennials are like Harry Potter and The Office,
[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_04]: but like, yeah, it's my fucking reality.
[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, but now there's a new office coming to Australia.
[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that'll be the Gen Z basic show to turn to.
[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, interesting. Interesting.
[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they just put out a teaser for it.
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw it yesterday that like,
[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_03]: it's not as much of a copy paste as like the original episodes of The Office
[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_03]: US were for the UK, but it's like very,
[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_03]: incredibly similar structure.
[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Boss stick up their ass.
[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Kiss ass number one, the couple that's will they won't they?
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_03]: What's interesting though is they're bringing in a little bit of like
[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_03]: 2020 stuff to it.
[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Like they're like, okay, now I want to announce we're all fully
[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_03]: back in office 24 seven.
[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So like, that's going to be interesting because it'll be like a reboot,
[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_03]: but also an updated scenes.
[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. I might have to watch that.
[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I just noticed I literally have a Michael Scott thing right there.
[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_04]: It's the you miss a hundred percent of the show.
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Wayne Gretzky.
[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was a gift, but yeah.
[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_04]: So I would say like Buffy, The Office,
[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_04]: like something light arrested development, even something to just like,
[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_04]: bring me back.
[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_04]: But also like, I know, I know it all so well that it's just like,
[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Were you team angel or team spike and Buffy?
[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Can you guess based on like my whole affect?
[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I would say I'd probably say team spike.
[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's why I would have her again.
[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.
[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I brought this up now like four times, but a little rapey in one episode.
[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. Straight up rape.
[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry. In one episode.
[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_04]: You can edit out every time I say rape on this podcast,
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_04]: but team spike forever.
[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I got a cameo from him for my mom not that long ago.
[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And like he's old though.
[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's weird.
[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I know people age, but it was jarring.
[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Vampires don't though.
[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Vampires don't weird throwback, which you probably haven't seen.
[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm also like a sci-fi girly.
[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_04]: We watch for comfort would be Babylon five.
[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And if anyone watching this has seen Babylon five, you're a real one.
[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so I've definitely heard of it.
[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I haven't dabbled into it.
[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm watching Battlestar Galactica for the first time.
[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_04]: The rebate. I've never seen it.
[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I've only seen two seasons and it's been really, really good.
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just celebrating its 20th anniversary.
[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_03]: So wow.
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_03]: It's on Peacock. Smash is on Peacock.
[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Not Mash.
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Mash might also be on Peacock.
[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Mash might also be on Peacock.
[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to think too of like remember old iTunes?
[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you obviously still buy shows.
[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_04]: When I was in college, I would like buy a season of a show
[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_04]: and I'm trying to think what I still have on my iTunes.
[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like with my parents credit card and then deny that it ever happened.
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I still have like the first three episodes of Mad Men like in my Apple TV account.
[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Wild.
[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting.
[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_06]: I only went to the special sites.
[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Good for you.
[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I have the OC and I have Buffy.
[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And I also have my comfort show when I was not sober
[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_04]: and would use marijuana often was Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_03]: There we go.
[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, Sasha, do you know what this is?
[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_03]: No.
[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_03]: So this was like the consummate adult swim show back when Adult Swim was like.
[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_06]: God, I do.
[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, no, I have.
[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Frylock, Meatwad, Master Shade, Kyle.
[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I almost got a Meatwad tattoo.
[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And then I was like, I actually still buy it.
[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Honestly, am I going to Meatwad tattoo?
[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_06]: That is so you must send us pictures.
[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Hello, I'm Jewish.
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Same.
[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_06]: So I love this.
[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, Mike Bloom, are you also?
[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my God.
[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Rare.
[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Look at here we are.
[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So we all get group Meatwad tattoo.
[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Right?
[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_06]: As Jews.
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_06]: My mom would literally murder me.
[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my God.
[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, mine are past that.
[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm the youngest.
[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And like fair every time I get I just got one of my dog's name.
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_04]: On Mother's Day, like for fun.
[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And like no one cares anymore.
[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_04]: They're like, she's too far gone.
[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Listen, as an only child and I'm Indian and I'm Jewish.
[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Impossible.
[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_06]: The mom stereotype is never beaten the allegations.
[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_03]: How many pop culture tattoos you have?
[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And obviously you put in a lost one.
[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you have any other ones?
[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, lost.
[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I have a Stormtrooper.
[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I did find out that Stormtroopers are like an allegory.
[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That might be the incorrect word for Nazis.
[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So like, I mean, quite literally, that's where the word comes from.
[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, I was from Trooper.
[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_04]: What else do I have?
[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I have so much random shit.
[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_04]: No, I have a sloth.
[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_04]: That's not pop culture.
[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I just love sloths.
[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_04]: No, but I will say some people from my season have gotten survivor related tattoos.
[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they've come out with them.
[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_04]: So I won't say anything.
[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Here we go.
[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Like tribe stuff.
[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And I just fucking hate owls.
[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a blue owl.
[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_04]: You can't pay me to get an owl.
[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I hated owls before Survivor.
[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I hate owls now.
[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot that the owl was on, was your tribe.
[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I didn't even know.
[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Was this a segway into something?
[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's when I knew.
[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_04]: That's when I knew.
[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I got the canteen, the dirty, sandy canteen and I saw an owl on it.
[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, this is doomed from the start.
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my God.
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought you were about to make some Drake reference.
[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, yeah, yeah, he's not cool right now.
[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no.
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I was Team Kendrick before all of this.
[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm happy to announce.
[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Listen, a brown Jew.
[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, I was very much like, well, at least I can marry him.
[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Am I?
[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_06]: But I am too old.
[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Comfort show.
[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Degrassi.
[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm. Let's talk about it.
[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, OK.
[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I have never been able to take Drake seriously because I grew up.
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_04]: You're not lying.
[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I would watch it in our health class.
[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_04]: What?
[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_04]: In high school.
[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_04]: What?
[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Where did you go to high school?
[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was like so progressive.
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just like going into med school because you watch Braids and I'm like, talk about a fictionalized version of like, don't do drugs, kids.
[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Look what JT is doing when he's selling Oxy content to support his and Liberty's baby.
[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So like to me, though, Drake is always going to be Jimmy.
[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_04]: When he came out with like started from the bottom, I'm like, you started in Canada, my dude.
[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Like what bottom are you talking about?
[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Real ones remember him as Aubrey Graham, that's for sure.
[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And also like the whole episode about how he can't necessarily get his penis up because.
[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I forgot about that episode.
[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I think about that every time I see Drake.
[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, I can't get over that he was shot and that he was in a wheelchair.
[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And then he became a rapper.
[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to like sit on it.
[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_04]: So no.
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my God.
[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Did you were you a Degrassi completionist or was there a moment of drop off?
[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I was a Degrassi, not like the one with the old like their parents, like the younger one.
[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I was after I think I definitely watched past the shooting.
[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I might have watched it all.
[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And then a few years ago, I found out that the entire show before they put it on, whatever
[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_04]: they put it on, maybe HBO Max was on YouTube, like just full episode.
[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow.
[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, oh, we really just got right into it, huh?
[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my God.
[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you ever rewatch this stuff and be like, I really watched this as a kid.
[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, no problem.
[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Who let me watch a lot of the things that I consumed?
[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Literally all of it.
[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_04]: All of it.
[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_04]: All of the above.
[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's the thing, though.
[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_03]: We had to grassy.
[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Does this generation have euphoria now?
[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that their Degrassi?
[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Euphoria is way worse.
[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it is such a well-done show.
[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I am like a Zendaya stan for ever.
[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's just so well done.
[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_04]: The acting is incredible.
[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_04]: It is so disturbing.
[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Like even as a fully formed like my brain is developed and I have like coping skills
[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_04]: and like community like I am OK today and I'm watching it and I'm like, yeah, doing
[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_04]: drugs like that, putting glitter on my face seems legit.
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, no, Hannah, you learn this the hard way.
[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I just feel for a lot of people use euphoria as their diagnostic case
[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_04]: conceptualization in that class.
[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Mm hmm.
[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Wow.
[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_06]: And Drake is a producer on.
[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I did not know that somebody I don't even want to ask.
[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_06]: That's why this song.
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's why Kendrick's one of the songs is called Euphoria.
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_06]: But what did the I did?
[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_03]: How I welcome everyone.
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to.
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't.
[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to think about this.
[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I get it.
[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Drake is everywhere.
[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, my God.
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_06]: In my mind, I was like, oh, yeah, because he did Degrassi.
[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_06]: So euphoria makes sense.
[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my God.
[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Degrassi. It's very like it really is high school, like disturbed, disturbing.
[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's so much more innocent in so many ways.
[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Euphoria is like, I'm going to go on this app and meet this scary older man and get
[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_04]: drugs. It's just different.
[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just different.
[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I think euphoria maybe it's maybe it's down to the number of
[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_03]: episodes in a season like euphoria short episode or so that cram a lot of
[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_03]: problems in there. Whereas Degrassi, it's like, OK, this week, Liberty has
[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_03]: dyscalculia. And then in the next episode, we'll have, you know, Manny and
[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Craig having sex and her having to get an abortion.
[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, or Manny wearing a thong.
[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that outfit.
[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_04]: That has like I don't know.
[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty sure I was like, I need to go to Victoria's Secret after that.
[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I need that even though it's not cute now.
[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_06]: And now as an older I'm like, that's so uncomfortable.
[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_06]: What are people like?
[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_04]: How do you sit comfortably?
[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, this is when you're young.
[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think anything matters.
[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Nothing matters.
[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Nothing matters.
[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_06]: God, Manny Santos.
[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I also loved when because it's sort of like in the Disney mold, right, where
[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_03]: it's like, OK, we're going to try everybody out as a singer.
[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Like you sort of a backdoor singing career when you were on the Disney Channel.
[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It kind of did that with Degrassi.
[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Like they did that with Manny.
[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, Craig had like downtown Sasquatch was the name of their band.
[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, OK, you're an out now musician now.
[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_04]: What a reference.
[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_04]: He was so annoying.
[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I really hated Craig.
[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Every time he was on screen, I needed him to move.
[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Didn't he have an abusive dad?
[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he did.
[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I took my pull to my heartstrings.
[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I was like the makings of a therapist.
[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_04]: These shows you're like, I just want to help them.
[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_04]: So I know I haven't said this.
[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_04]: So when I met you first, Mike Bloom, I was still very much a therapist, but I
[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_04]: had started transitioning my clients out because I didn't want to continue
[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_04]: working with clients after they see me half naked crying on an island.
[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_04]: It just seems unprofessional.
[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I know Ellie and Dory did it.
[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I was like, technically, I am a therapist, but I haven't seen
[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_04]: clients since before Survivor.
[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I haven't provided therapeutic services.
[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow.
[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, transitioned out of there.
[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I was also super burnt out.
[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_03]: So I was like, that's fair.
[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone's always like, well, you're a therapist.
[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, am I?
[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I am, but like, am I?
[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, no, you meant more of like a you you worked with people, but now
[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_03]: you work with people in a different way, more of a management role.
[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I am a CEO.
[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh-huh.
[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Love that.
[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just I'm just reading up on downtown Sasquatch.
[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot that spinner spinner was the drummer, but then they kicked
[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_03]: him out because he was responsible for the aforementioned Jimmy getting
[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_03]: shot in the back of their like, that's it.
[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_03]: You're out of the band.
[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a pretty valid boundary.
[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Also, as much as I'm not like I do know, like every Drake song and
[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_04]: like fuck with Drake, even though I'm like, boo, remember when he came
[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_04]: out with.
[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_04]: That was around my neck of disrespect.
[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm upset.
[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Remember when he came out, I'm upset.
[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I see the music video.
[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's all right.
[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_04]: That's how it opened was him and spinner and they ended it with
[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_04]: the basketball song.
[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, whatever it takes.
[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Mm hmm.
[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_06]: But what I know this is why listen, Drake is Drake loss and you
[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_06]: shouldn't have lost.
[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Right?
[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Like he's problematic.
[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_06]: All of this.
[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, yes, I want to hold that.
[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And he this is why he's like the summer hit maker because he just
[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_06]: knows how to get the right the right thing in front of you.
[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_06]: That's all it.
[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_06]: He knew what he was doing.
[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Nostalgia is in nostalgia baby.
[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_03]: There we go.
[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I am a I was so excited when they were like I can literally see the
[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_06]: music video.
[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_06]: That's how many times.
[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I want to dress like them.
[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to be them.
[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to go to Degrassi.
[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to be Canadian.
[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Side note, speaking of a theme song that's a bop.
[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, there are two.
[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, one of them, I believe it's also fully subtitled and I haven't
[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_04]: watched it, but my husband watched it.
[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I bopped every time the theme song came out, I would come into
[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_04]: the living room and dance in front of the screen.
[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Tehran.
[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Tehran, Tehran, like the capital of.
[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was going to say like the capital.
[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, that theme song goes hard and I listen to it in my car.
[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And then secondly, and probably more receptive to the people.
[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Succession.
[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Mm hmm.
[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, Mike will tell you a rap song and someone laid that tune on it.
[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like.
[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's all I can say when you talk about the rap song, I was
[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_03]: thinking about a very different rap song that's associated with
[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_03]: succession.
[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_04]: What song?
[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_03]: L to the O.G., baby.
[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, oh.
[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I never like that theme.
[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my God.
[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like a bunch of like older white dudes.
[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_06]: He's exactly why I didn't want to let me just say so.
[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I had Brooke from the Amazing Race on here a few weeks ago and I
[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_03]: publicly recommended it to her since then in a two week period.
[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_03]: She blitzed through the entire thing and like texted me her thoughts
[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_03]: throughout and was like, oh, I'm so glad I watched this.
[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_03]: This is incredible.
[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a six.
[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, yes, this is the show.
[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_06]: So I watch it.
[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_06]: The first two episodes or something like that with my my mom.
[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_06]: And it was that like ejaculation.
[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Where I'm a colleague.
[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Brother.
[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, does the whole thing.
[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_06]: And my mom is like, but what is the reason?
[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: But what power?
[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all about Americans.
[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just like Americans.
[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_06]: They just have to do this like weird sex.
[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_03]: But that's like that's the thing, though, is that like I honestly feel
[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_03]: like succession is one of the best representations of American culture
[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I have ever seen.
[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Primarily based in like greed and constantly like calling.
[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, pulling yourself up by dragging other people down capitalism
[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_03]: to your point, like soaking the flames of media like it is really
[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_04]: a survivor to me, which is why I didn't fit into it.
[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Also, speaking of another show that I was like, I'm not going to like this
[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_04]: because it's a bunch of old white men riding horses.
[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yellowstone baby.
[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Ten out of ten.
[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my really?
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_06]: So I watch the other who is the creator or writer of yellow.
[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_03]: So actually Taylor Sheridan.
[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_06]: So I watched the other Taylor Sheridan show to cover it on.
[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Yet. No.
[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, also shout out Tulsa King because I'm from Tulsa and they literally
[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_06]: lives. Sorry.
[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_06]: This is such a side note.
[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_06]: But he Sylvester Stallone, the the place he's supposed to live in
[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_06]: is the hotel I got married at.
[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_06]: So every time he's like going into the mail, I'm like, this is crazy
[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_06]: because I have that same exact.
[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Amazing.
[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, I have to have that drone shot of me walking
[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_06]: because my radiographer.
[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_04]: That is so exciting.
[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like when you see a place that you've been or have existed in
[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_04]: in a show, it's like the best thing ever.
[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_04]: That is how I felt for all of Love Island USA.
[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Arianna Maddox because it was filled.
[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Lioness that I lived at for a freaking month.
[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my God, that's wild.
[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I've been there.
[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I hung out there.
[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I did nothing there.
[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't regret quitting there.
[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it was just it was phenomenal.
[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's so cool.
[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen Tulsa King.
[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I might have to.
[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It's.
[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So then what was the what was the other show you were talking about?
[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Lioness.
[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It was Lioness.
[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_03]: The Zoe Saldana show.
[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_06]: And you can.
[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Lioness is coming back.
[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I did.
[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I hate watched it in that I found it very funny.
[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_06]: It's not a funny show.
[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_06]: It's the FBI CIA special ops.
[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_06]: It's literally special ops Lioness.
[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Nicole Kidman's in it.
[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_06]: You're like, this is going to be a great serious show.
[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Zoe Saldana.
[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Like you're just like, wow, it's going to be good.
[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Y'all, it's written.
[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_06]: You could just tell it before I knew who wrote it.
[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_06]: You can just tell that it's written by a man, a white man via the lens, you know,
[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_06]: and trying to like make it work for the a woman of color, a black woman, whatever you want to say.
[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh no.
[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Yellowstone is good.
[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's why I never went back to watch Yellowstone because I was so annoyed by.
[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Speaking of White Man, can you name this reference?
[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And from what show and who said it?
[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_04]: A white man.
[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_04]: No.
[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's Schmidt from New Girl.
[00:51:36] I love you.
[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I was going to be.
[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_06]: It's either New Girl or what's that cartoon shoot where they're in Texas.
[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, King of the Hill.
[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_06]: King of the Hill.
[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I just sound like a Dale Gribble line, but yeah, a white man.
[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, that's man.
[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's the thing, though.
[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of Emmys, Lamorne Morris ends up winning for Fargo.
[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And everyone's like, well, this is more so trying to make up for the fact that he was never even nominated as Winston Bishop from New Girl.
[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Frank Sinatra.
[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_04]: New Girl is also one of the best shows.
[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my God.
[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_06]: When I know what I have been down now, the Wayans brother, like Wayans family, like and been watching all the time.
[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_03]: You've been watching again, right? For Papa's House, Sasha?
[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_06]: I think I'm going to watch Papa's House because Marlon goes on Shannon Sharp.
[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Shout out.
[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Which Shannon Sharp livestream was he on?
[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if you know.
[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Shannon Sharp was caught in intimate affairs on a livestream on Instagram last week.
[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, thank you for letting me know.
[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_04]: He was barking and everything.
[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Shannon is a man.
[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, Shannon is a man.
[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_06]: He is an ex NFL football player or ex NFL player.
[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Is he the one with the gap in his teeth?
[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_06]: That's a skew.
[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know, I does he have a gap?
[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh no, you're thinking about you're thinking of Michael Strahan.
[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yes.
[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no.
[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Shannon Sharp.
[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no.
[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_06]: But anyway, he's a football player, commentator, all this stuff.
[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_06]: But he he also has this podcast where all these very famous, mostly black celebrities have gone on and just like portal to whatever has been open.
[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Because Cat Williams went on it this into January.
[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Then every thing has just been in a tornado.
[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_06]: The Cat Williams in January said Diddy is going to like he's going to get what's coming for him soon.
[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, like he like noted every single thing that was going to happen.
[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Yep.
[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's why I really am a psychic question mark.
[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Who knows?
[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_06]: But no, the reason they brought that up is because, yeah, the Wayans brothers.
[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_06]: So Marlon went on it to like promote his thing.
[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And then he started talking about how New Girl and Lamont Herit, like all these people were feel like now the third generation of the Wayans family almost.
[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Because yeah, because Lamont was on New Girl with Damon.
[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, with Damon.
[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.
[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And when Lamont was doing the Jimmy Kimmel show, you know, one of the late night shows, Marlon goes on and like just drags him the whole time.
[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like, you know, I'm not like your nephew.
[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I was just on a show with him called New Girl.
[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That's so good.
[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_06]: So I just I love like anything new girl.
[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_06]: And I just like I don't know.
[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_06]: It's what a great show.
[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_06]: I've watched it so many times.
[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Same.
[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Also good comfort show.
[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a really good comfort show.
[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Correct.
[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, Hannah, we were so happy to welcome you into our family.
[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_03]: This was such a great time.
[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Is there anything else you want to say?
[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Anything you want to plug any shows that you're already diving into on your like ready to watch list that are left in your queue?
[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_04]: We're watching The Perfect Couple right now just because I read it and so I've been waiting to watch it.
[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, anything Nicole could have been touches.
[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Presumed Innocent.
[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So good.
[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_04]: A one season banger like Hijack with Idris Elba.
[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_04]: One season bangers go hard.
[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Also anything on Apple TV plus like Severance.
[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I need to talk to someone about the last episode of Severance.
[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, listen, we might have to have the conversation on a different day before it comes back next year.
[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_04]: But no, thank you for having me.
[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_04]: This is like I could talk about this forever and it makes me it's like, yeah, I am more than just that girl that cried and quit Survivor.
[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a sore.
[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And thank you for showing off some of your exquisite taste today.
[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Sasha, anything you'd like to plug today?
[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_06]: As always, if you want to know why something's trending, why something's going on, you need to check out Mess Magnets with Kirsten McInnes and I are talking celebrity gossip and everything else.
[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_06]: We just covered the secret lives of Mormon wives.
[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_06]: So if you want to know more, listen, it's on the Rob has a podcast YouTube channel.
[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_06]: We went on YouTube this time and if not, just go to Mess Magnets dot com now.
[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I believe we have our own.
[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, my God.
[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Side note, I need to watch and listen to it because I don't know anything about.
[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, my God.
[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_02]: They're so good.
[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: They are.
[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: They are.
[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: They are your teachers.
[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_06]: We just we end up.
[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I will say like the plug is because we are very passionate about this work.
[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_06]: So we end up doing like a lot of research, like it's a true crime podcast, but it's not.
[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_06]: But we're both true crime junkies.
[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's how I don't I don't know how to explain it, but that's what we end up doing.
[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_06]: It sounds amazing.
[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, we're very messy.
[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_06]: So vibes only podcast.
[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_06]: But we actually do a bunch of research on it.
[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_06]: So, yes, please check it out.
[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it was really fun and silly.
[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And then we have we end it with a listener submitted anonymous.
[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_06]: So, yes.
[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_06]: So our messengers are killing it.
[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_06]: They always send us the best ridiculous mess and it is Rob's favorite segment.
[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_06]: So here we are.
[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And of course, Chappelle and I are still talking below deck.
[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_06]: We're almost at the finale.
[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Everyone.
[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Are you a fan, Hannah?
[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Every time everyone is a sailor.
[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, my God.
[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I love that show.
[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_06]: It's literally my favorite.
[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_06]: I think I've watched almost every season, if not for sure.
[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Every episode.
[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_06]: But yes, we're still talking below deck med.
[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Honestly, city girls are down right now, unfortunately, because of these stews.
[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_06]: But here we are.
[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, check it out.
[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_06]: And again, we go live on the Rob's Podcast YouTube channel or the below deck rehab
[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_06]: ups feed, I believe it's still called that.
[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And oh, and listen, Mike, we're picking up the mantle that you put down.
[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_06]: But Matt Ligori, Brandon Donovan, and I, yes, are just going to talk the premiere episode of Dancing with the Stars.
[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.
[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_06]: I know exactly.
[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm excited.
[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Listen, Phaedra is on.
[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So, Phaedra and also a little bit of a mess magnets there as well.
[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_03]: You can talk about some of the trouble that maybe some of the pros have gotten in.
[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Little miss ankle bracelet.
[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, it can't wait to check all of that out and check out my Twitter at funsize underscore
[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_06]: 040 to keep track of everything else.
[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_06]: What about you, Mike?
[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So Survivor is back up.
[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I talked with the newest first boot to join Miss Hannah Rose doing the B&B with Leona
[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_03]: and Gabby Fascusi should be a lot of fun.
[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So covering Big Brother and the challenge as that is happening.
[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_03]: But over on the scripted side of things, of course, we started this podcast with loss.
[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll end it with loss.
[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Josh Wiggler and I are still doing our run through of Lost a season at a time for first time watchers.
[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_03]: For those that have checked it out on Netflix and nothing else.
[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Hannah, listen, if you want to get into Lost podcasting, we have about three three hundred hours of podcast for you on down the hatch where we spoiler filled rewatch copiously through.
[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_06]: So, so good.
[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I'm saying, I will down the hatch.
[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Down the hatch. It's myself and Josh Wiggler.
[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And so you can check that out.
[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But right now we're also putting forward a little bit of like a dalliance through loss for first time watchers as well.
[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_03]: The Chappelle's of the world that just came into it for the first time.
[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And then actually some new coverage to announce.
[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I will be doing episodic recaps of the Penguin, which is debuting on Max tonight, September 19th.
[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And then episode two is coming like September 29th to do a little bit of an early premiere.
[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_03]: But myself and Grace Leder are going to be doing episodic recaps of that.
[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm very intrigued by it.
[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Colin Farrell, it's a role that he said he never wants to do again after this.
[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see if it's just prosthetics or if it's more than skin deep.
[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll be sure to get into that.
[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, TV for real.
[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Sasha and I will be back next week with another reality TV alum talking their taste in scripted TV.
[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you all so much for listening.
[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Hannah, thank you so, so much.
[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for having me.
[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, we'll be back next week with more reality TV alum talking scripted TV.
[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Until next time, everybody, it's been real.