Evvie Jagoda Ep 6 Post Game Show | Survivor 46

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[00:00:38] Hey everybody what's going on Rob says you know back live after episode 6 of Survivor 46

[00:00:46] a Marjitory is over and we got a good one can't wait to get into it with my great friend.

[00:00:53] Dr. Evie Djagoda is here. Evie how are you?

[00:00:56] I'm so good Rob thank you so much for having me here. Marjitory episode I'm just going to get it out of the way.

[00:01:02] Tiffany invented the phrase Marjitory okay yes.

[00:01:04] Yes, yes okay shout out to Tiffany okay she should go to a patent office soon.

[00:01:11] I've been so excited all week that you're going to be here to talk with me about everything.

[00:01:16] And I think we have a lot to figure out here tonight in terms of where things are going on a night where it was all for Mariah.

[00:01:26] Yeah, except where's one vote for Venus right?

[00:01:29] Yeah one one vote for Venus. You know I forgot to look at it was Charlie Charlie okay one vote and I kind of feel like

[00:01:37] that that was like the Caleb protection vote like the okay she's playing the shot in the dark.

[00:01:42] I don't want it to be me you got to do it you got to do it someone's got to do it.

[00:01:46] But yeah no it was I think it's kind of a fun episode where the vote ended up being so straightforward but it was so much

[00:01:53] interesting stuff that came up leading up to it and I feel like the game is still so open moving from here.

[00:01:58] Okay well we'll break it all down we'll take your questions later on on Thursday I will be talking with Mariah

[00:02:05] and here what she has to say about everything and then we'll have Steven fish back for the living no it all.

[00:02:13] You don't want to be dead know it all right that's not good.

[00:02:16] I'd rather be a living fool than a dead know it all but we will talk about everything with Steven slightly earlier time

[00:02:23] 130 p.m. on Thursday okay a little bit earlier than we've been doing them normally okay.

[00:02:32] Evie how are you doing well you know Rob I recently got a big weight off my chest.

[00:02:39] I had gender forming top surgery recently and I'm feeling amazing about that and I've been pretty much sitting around with nothing to do so it's the perfect time to get deep into survivor again and a real talk.

[00:02:53] You had an amazing Instagram post on Sunday so you know incredible job with that and so so glad you're up for coming on and talking some survivor with us tonight.

[00:03:07] Thank you thank you yeah it means a lot.

[00:03:09] Evie how are you enjoying survivor 46?

[00:03:12] You know I'm really liking it you know I have to tell you something around I've honestly been a little bit of a casual in the new era of survivor honestly like

[00:03:21] you know always watching survivor was like like a high energy activity for me and then you go on the show and it's like it's like it's like it's not chill to watch it you know it's like I'm like doing a thing I'm like watching survivor that's like stressful so I kind of like faded in

[00:03:35] an out of the last couple seasons but I've been like in on 46 and you know it's got a lot of personalities a lot of like it's not it's a little different than some of the other.

[00:03:45] Season a little less like game body you got so you got some bonus like you got some tins people like that feel like you're playing a little different than some of our classic.

[00:03:55] Game bot new era type so I'm having fun yeah I feel like this is not a game bot season no yeah yeah there's a lot of like yeah I'm like everyone's like like even like you he's like very like in some sense like he's strategy strategy strategy

[00:04:10] strategy strategy but he's like making some like interesting choices like the Jalinsky thing like he's got his like work ethic stuff like we got some like very interesting interesting characters here it seems like you know Q has a couple of like different triggers that if somebody

[00:04:24] like sets it off like that's it Jalinsky went wanted to quit the channel that's it okay Mariah share favorite players Aubrey she's got to go.

[00:04:32] Yeah Rob what is the least threatening player to say like what do you go for you.

[00:04:38] But that was I was trying to think I was trying to remember what people said their favorite swear player was I feel like I really remember that

[00:04:46] Sanders said coach and I was like not that I was like I mean it was not right wasn't that threatening you know I was like that's not that scary but then I remember that Abraham said

[00:04:56] I want to keep Philippe and I was like, you know okay that's your favorite swear player, you know we that was better or worse Philip,

[00:05:04] That was I think that was worse because I we said Phillip because Phillip was so authentic and I was like that doesn't seem true

[00:05:14] Yeah.

[00:05:15] Yeah.

[00:05:16] Yeah.

[00:05:17] I mean, that was the duo that was the supposed South Pacific matchup that was going to be coached

[00:05:23] versus Philip and then Philip didn't want to do it.

[00:05:26] So yeah, that could have been the two right there.

[00:05:30] But the Aubrey thing was so interesting and I really feel like tonight I want to say

[00:05:35] justice for Mariah because I really feel like that it was an interesting night for me

[00:05:41] because I really felt like that.

[00:05:43] I thought Venus was going home up until Mariah played the shot in the dark and I really

[00:05:47] felt like that out of everything I've learned about the mergatory and I've studied this

[00:05:54] at the over that and you know, um, you know, I've looked at every single one of these

[00:05:59] and I really felt like, okay, Mariah did everything right that you should do in these in this

[00:06:05] mergatory situation.

[00:06:06] I feel like that Venus, who is incredible to watch, I'm so happy she's still here but I

[00:06:13] feel like that Venus did most of the things wrong or not the way that you should do them.

[00:06:18] And I really felt like, okay, well, goodbye Venus and she's here and Mariah went home.

[00:06:24] Yeah.

[00:06:25] Okay, I have some counter points.

[00:06:26] Like, okay, so I do think that Mariah honestly did not like very little wrong but I do

[00:06:31] a couple like nitpicks but I think, I think Venus did more right than people give her credit

[00:06:36] for.

[00:06:37] Okay.

[00:06:38] Like, okay, Venus, she's already at the bottom of her tribe.

[00:06:41] That's just like a lost cause they have such animosity for her and it's honestly amazing

[00:06:45] TV.

[00:06:46] Love Venus so much.

[00:06:47] She's here.

[00:06:48] The scene of Venus and Sotify Dingel Hunter was looking for the idol.

[00:06:51] Oh my gosh, chefs give survivor.

[00:06:52] Um, okay, but Venus did the thing of like actually making it in everyone is framing it

[00:06:58] as like, it's just like is it Siga or is it Yanu?

[00:07:00] Or no, what's the what's the yellow tribe?

[00:07:03] Nami.

[00:07:04] Nami.

[00:07:05] Yeah.

[00:07:06] Is it Siga or is it Nami and like that was what they were weighing Venus.

[00:07:08] I think I think the most important thing Venus did was when she said to Sota and Kenzie,

[00:07:14] she said to Sota especially like if Q doesn't like Mariah because she's a super fan, you're

[00:07:18] next.

[00:07:19] And I think that was like the only time either one of them started actually like making

[00:07:24] them as an individual in other people's self-interest.

[00:07:27] And Sota is thinking, hmm, that's right.

[00:07:29] Venus also went on to be like, I don't want to get a girl out.

[00:07:32] I want like the women to say let's get Charlie.

[00:07:34] I think Kenzie was probably more into that than she was like saying we saw Devon, it was

[00:07:39] like Devon, Q Hunter and and Tiff are sitting there.

[00:07:45] Well, Tavin is like, she doesn't want to get a woman out like we hate that, right?

[00:07:49] Obviously, you know, and Tiff obviously sitting there being like, well, that's not so bad

[00:07:52] for me.

[00:07:53] I think Venus was like throwing a lot out there, but there was actual meat there.

[00:07:58] Mariah was just kind of both being too closed off and like not giving it.

[00:08:03] Yeah, I don't know if Mariah was perfect, but I feel like that.

[00:08:05] So I kind of like have like this rubric of like how I was looking at Mergetory.

[00:08:10] And I really felt like that's night episode was like, okay, 100% is going to prove that

[00:08:15] we have these established rules.

[00:08:17] And I really felt like coming into the week, okay, it's going to be one of these, the

[00:08:21] Mergetory boot is always the person, one of the tribes is going to say, okay, this person

[00:08:30] is expendable.

[00:08:31] And one tribe is ultimately going to throw away somebody.

[00:08:35] It's never been yet a big threat who was ultimately somebody we got it and not like

[00:08:41] the old days of the merge.

[00:08:42] It's somebody that is not fitting in with their original tribe.

[00:08:46] And then the second part of this in all of these mergetories that I've looked at before,

[00:08:52] that the person who is not safe, you are better off being hunter.

[00:08:58] Who's who I'm sorry, they're not just better off, but you have more say being hunter without

[00:09:03] a vote but safe than Venus with a vote who is not safe.

[00:09:08] You're better off if you're in that group of people who has won the challenge that you

[00:09:14] have a lot of sway and anything you do, like the Ellie, you know, the person who is

[00:09:20] saying names who's not safe that it boomerangs back.

[00:09:25] It's like, whoa, who are you saying names?

[00:09:27] You're not even safe.

[00:09:28] What do you do?

[00:09:29] Yep.

[00:09:30] Well, okay.

[00:09:31] And this is why we, is it known, we all agree, Mergetory is bad.

[00:09:35] Like what's the, I'm not so much in good spirit.

[00:09:38] So I liked it, but I thought that the last couple have been, you know, now, I mean, we're

[00:09:45] getting to where the Caleb, it was going to be what 12 to 12 to zero for Caleb.

[00:09:51] And then he hit the shot in the dark, which kind of saved that.

[00:09:54] This was tonight, what 11 to one.

[00:09:56] I mean, Evie, I was thinking about this earlier.

[00:09:58] I mean, can you believe it was one episode of television in survivor 41, Erica broke the

[00:10:04] hourglass and they did knowledge's power in one episode of television.

[00:10:08] That's right.

[00:10:09] Well, do you remember?

[00:10:10] I mean, the merge was two episodes.

[00:10:11] Yes, yes.

[00:10:12] There was one before that we wanted to talk about it.

[00:10:14] Okay.

[00:10:15] Yeah.

[00:10:16] Okay.

[00:10:17] This is like the most cancelable take as a survivor 41 platter.

[00:10:21] It's like if you're going to do the Mergetory, maybe you have to do the hourglass.

[00:10:25] I don't know because like, okay, realistically, the thing that was boring to me about this

[00:10:29] episode is that, which not nothing the episode was boring.

[00:10:32] But the flaw too many people were too comfortable for too much of the episode.

[00:10:37] You know, so many people there who like, yeah, they win the challenge, they eat the feast,

[00:10:41] they're chillin, chillin, chillin and they're vote and they just like have all this power

[00:10:44] and I think it was also a little unfortunate for the episode drama that like all the powerful

[00:10:49] people or many of the powerful people were safe.

[00:10:52] And they're just like whatever, you know, in the Mergetory, in the hourglass, which was

[00:10:57] horrible and totally destroyed my game, everybody was freaked out for at least some of the days.

[00:11:03] Like freaked out.

[00:11:04] Yeah.

[00:11:05] And also you would never seen Mergetory before.

[00:11:07] Also.

[00:11:08] So there was some novelty to it in terms of like the players, the players scrambling.

[00:11:14] But they all know what's coming now.

[00:11:17] And you know, I think that this plus one or the journey six alliance is interesting but

[00:11:25] you know, this was probably like the most big brotherly round of survivor ever of that.

[00:11:30] You have all of the people in the power made an alliance then also were completely safe

[00:11:39] and it was like a big brother 22 where it was like then all the people that were at

[00:11:44] the bottom were like scrambling and trying to say like, hey, like go for the people in power.

[00:11:48] They're like no back in my day, you did the challenge with the, with the strong dudes and

[00:11:53] then you won the challenge but then you guys, and then they would lose.

[00:11:57] And then that would be losing.

[00:12:00] You all would like that tonight if they made, if they made the strong people win the challenge

[00:12:04] and then made them like, you won and I lost.

[00:12:06] Yeah, that would have, I would have loved to see that group.

[00:12:09] But also just in general, like I just don't, I just, it is the thing I'd like least about

[00:12:13] a new Irish survivor of how these like early, but and it seems like I don't know if the

[00:12:16] next episode is going to be a split tribal probably it's split.

[00:12:19] Yes, definitely.

[00:12:20] They said two people are going home on the preview.

[00:12:23] It's fun to have the chaos of a 13 person vote.

[00:12:26] Like let us have a big vote.

[00:12:28] I want to see how that shakes out.

[00:12:29] Okay, wait, back to the, or I don't know you're in charge of the podcast but okay.

[00:12:33] No, you are.

[00:12:34] You are.

[00:12:35] This is your night tonight, Nevy.

[00:12:36] All right.

[00:12:37] Back to the merge challenge split.

[00:12:38] Okay.

[00:12:39] You want to know, obviously Tiffany made a great choice to go with the strong people.

[00:12:44] Okay?

[00:12:45] But I don't know if this is again, I'm a little, I'm a casual in the new era right now

[00:12:48] so I don't know if this is an old take.

[00:12:49] I think Tiffany in that spot has to go where the other purple people are, no matter what.

[00:12:55] Even if that was the losing tribe right?

[00:12:59] I didn't think about that but yeah, I mean, I feel like that's typically what has happened.

[00:13:03] That's my, I feel like future players out there listening to this.

[00:13:06] I think even if she had that had been the weaklings tribe, she's better off sticking

[00:13:10] with them.

[00:13:11] Like obviously I'm projecting everything for my season on to this.

[00:13:14] I was alone as the only Yasa with it was like me, Ricardo and then three Louvus, Ricardo

[00:13:20] on the immunity.

[00:13:21] I was the only one for my tribe so it's just like the easy thing if it's going to be a

[00:13:25] Yasa, it's going to be me.

[00:13:26] If Ricardo had won the challenge would have been either Evie or Ricardo because it's

[00:13:29] just like the loners, you got to stick with your buddies.

[00:13:32] So yeah, I think even if it had been the weaklings that was so good.

[00:13:34] But I also feel like that the people that are on the other side have more sway so maybe

[00:13:39] you do want to divide in conqueror like I like I know you went through the first one

[00:13:43] and so you had not figured out like the rubric of like who holds all the power in that

[00:13:48] scenario.

[00:13:49] But I think it's like, I think it's like in some sense they have the power but they obviously

[00:13:53] also don't.

[00:13:54] I mean, it's still the regular numbers of the game.

[00:13:56] Like Tiffany and Zander didn't have any more power because you know, like so.

[00:14:01] Evie, what's up with this with this Yano tribe comes in and they have the smallest

[00:14:05] numbers and they have all the power.

[00:14:07] What's up with that?

[00:14:08] I know, but I mean that is the classic now.

[00:14:10] I mean, I think like the galaxy brain on the, I mean, Malcolm and Denise they proved

[00:14:14] it, you know, and it's just like does anything the thing that this small group like I mean,

[00:14:19] it couldn't have been more perfect for them to have a good three and then five versus five.

[00:14:24] Like they just inherently are going to have the power.

[00:14:27] But I am nervous about this three because Q has gone out there and said to two other people

[00:14:35] in the game.

[00:14:36] And number one is Tiff.

[00:14:37] I don't know that, I mean, Kenzie knows that.

[00:14:41] I'm sure but I'm like, I don't, I feel like the heart that like you think Tiff is in

[00:14:47] the best spot in the Yano maybe even in the game.

[00:14:50] The Yano has like a great position.

[00:14:52] She's got her two allies.

[00:14:53] If they're not going to do different things, I don't Alicia if you have about that, but

[00:14:57] is it I don't.

[00:14:58] I think it's I don't.

[00:14:59] Yeah.

[00:15:00] Okay.

[00:15:01] That was very even though my close caption called it ad Alicia.

[00:15:03] Yeah.

[00:15:04] Ad Alicia, if the two allies want to go different ways which I really feel like Q and Kenzie

[00:15:10] might she's going to it's going to be tough to figure out.

[00:15:13] Yeah.

[00:15:14] Anyway, I'm very happy for Kenzie that I thought that there was a scenario tonight where Kenzie

[00:15:20] was the boot where potentially if it was Kenzie was in the group that was not safe that

[00:15:26] I thought that maybe Q might have thrown her under the bus as being the expendable person

[00:15:31] from Yano, but I feel like that she was able to get her footing under her.

[00:15:36] I thought she had a really good episode tonight and I feel like that we might get to see Kenzie

[00:15:40] get the play in the post merge.

[00:15:42] Yes, which I love.

[00:15:43] I love Kenzie.

[00:15:44] I mean, the whole Yano tribe, I really do feel like these three characters are great to

[00:15:48] have in the game.

[00:15:49] Yeah.

[00:15:50] I mean, I feel like Kenzie has a lot of stuff.

[00:15:52] You're the main characters now.

[00:15:53] That's right.

[00:15:54] That's right.

[00:15:55] And she's had like a lot of willingness to go out on her own and do stuff like we saw

[00:16:00] that in the pre merge.

[00:16:01] And I think like, I could see her like, yeah, pulling in Venus.

[00:16:05] Venus is like it's so everyone's like, oh, Venus is literally begging to be picked up.

[00:16:10] Like I could totally see Kenzie scooping in a Venus and like get something going.

[00:16:14] Yeah.

[00:16:15] I'm worried about Venus though.

[00:16:17] And again, she's been great television.

[00:16:19] And so I'm so happy that she's there, but I kind of feel like that in the new era

[00:16:23] and this is something that we've been tracking.

[00:16:24] I kind of feel like that this person who is making these bids of, hey, everybody, let's

[00:16:31] do this.

[00:16:32] Hey, everybody, let's do this.

[00:16:33] Yeah.

[00:16:34] I feel like you get a shot or two at it.

[00:16:38] But if it doesn't take, I feel like that you end up on that sort of zero vote finalist

[00:16:45] track.

[00:16:46] Oh yeah.

[00:16:47] And I believe that's maybe Venus is upside right now.

[00:16:50] Oh yeah.

[00:16:51] I think that's probably what I was thinking.

[00:16:53] Zero vote finalist realistically, but hey, it's not so bad yet third place.

[00:16:57] You know, that's a bad idea.

[00:16:58] I think if she outlasts all the other nominees, I think that she would be like, can you see

[00:17:03] her like being like happy when her trip mates are getting voted out?

[00:17:07] Yeah, exactly.

[00:17:08] You know, but the other thing, I mean, I think it really depends.

[00:17:11] It's like she's, she's so ripe for a come from behind underdog story that like could,

[00:17:18] if she can find some power in this game, you know, be a winning story.

[00:17:23] But the like in this current iteration with these cards on the board, it just doesn't seem

[00:17:28] like there's ever going to be a mass enough of people that should be like the leader.

[00:17:31] But I think is she like going to be the next one to go home probably not depending on

[00:17:36] this.

[00:17:37] It'll depend on the split for the split trap of council.

[00:17:41] Let's talk about this decision that they made of Venus the snake versus Mo the threat

[00:17:47] and first of, who do you think ultimately made this call?

[00:17:52] Yeah.

[00:17:53] That's interesting because like so I mean, presumably, I mean, I really didn't like what

[00:17:59] Mariah did at the tribal with the revealing the bottom thing that was I did not like that

[00:18:03] but I think that she must have been so like, okay, this is my like complete Hail Mary.

[00:18:08] Yeah, yeah.

[00:18:09] But presumably that didn't have an impact on the actual.

[00:18:12] No.

[00:18:13] Like her tribe was already running for her.

[00:18:14] I mean, yeah.

[00:18:15] I was trying to think of that like who is the like link of like that group being like nest

[00:18:21] it's time.

[00:18:22] I mean, honestly, okay, I'm biased because I love Charlie.

[00:18:25] He loves embossed and he's a sweetie.

[00:18:27] I feel like he's the one of like at the end of the day, see he's going to make a decision

[00:18:32] together.

[00:18:33] He is the one who's at risk from them.

[00:18:35] We saw him in his confessional being like, end of the day if Mo needs to go for me to say

[00:18:38] that's what needs to happen.

[00:18:40] I could see him being like at the end of the day, it's the least risky thing for him

[00:18:44] to just pile on Mo.

[00:18:45] We know that'll be then what happens safe and sound we're good to go.

[00:18:49] And he obviously went the safety of voting for Venus to have that extra vote there.

[00:18:53] So I don't know.

[00:18:54] I mean, I could see I think he is the most influential person on a tribe.

[00:18:57] We saw a lot of him this episode.

[00:19:00] But Tim seemed like pretty into the Mariah situation.

[00:19:03] Yeah.

[00:19:04] He was into getting rid of Mariah.

[00:19:08] Or I know that he was like, I feel like at first he was pretty, he was taking her in a lot.

[00:19:13] We saw a lot of him like talking to her.

[00:19:17] So I don't know.

[00:19:18] I mean, there also, yeah, I mean, wow so much for Mariah and her women's alliance really

[00:19:23] just bam, bam, let them go.

[00:19:26] You know, I don't want to bounce around too much.

[00:19:29] But I'm still I'm so confused about last week's vote because my working theory was Tim went

[00:19:36] to the journey, came made this alliance, came home, told Maria about, Hey, Maria, like

[00:19:44] I made this six person alliance.

[00:19:46] And that Maria was like, okay, well, I feel good about Tim now.

[00:19:48] He said I was his number one.

[00:19:50] So all right, I'm going to cut bait on on gem here and play my extra vote.

[00:19:56] It turned out that he did not do that.

[00:19:58] And I'm even more confused about last week about why what happened to make Maria switch

[00:20:04] where she said in the episode, the plan was to stick with the women.

[00:20:08] Yeah.

[00:20:09] And I'm sure she has a good reason.

[00:20:11] I just don't know what it is.

[00:20:12] Yeah, I mean, yeah, not to dwell on last too much.

[00:20:15] But I really think gem was just like playing too hard.

[00:20:18] And I think I think like the one we can't underestimate how disruptive to this cramble

[00:20:22] it was that she was out there like measuring machete full of the distances and stuff.

[00:20:28] Like I just think that probably contributed to an overall sketch factor that I think

[00:20:33] I think was more gem related.

[00:20:34] But why the hell did Maria?

[00:20:36] Can I have one thing that I bet gem was probably at home cursing tonight when she saw

[00:20:42] that Charlie or that hunter had to go find his idol under the steps.

[00:20:47] Seriously, also, why did he wait so long like he lucky that it was so easy?

[00:20:53] Did he found it last?

[00:20:54] I don't know.

[00:20:55] He found it last week.

[00:20:56] And then I have to go I'm going to go back and see the like that I feel like that what

[00:20:59] he said that I look who said was not what he said it's at last week.

[00:21:02] But he then once they got to the merge, then he had to like he would have an opportunity

[00:21:07] to go find the key before the boats came and his thing.

[00:21:11] So he did have considerably easier.

[00:21:14] Yeah, yeah, the time stretch but still, well, okay, I do really like the 45 and 46 these

[00:21:19] like idle.

[00:21:20] I've been I think they're so fun.

[00:21:22] I think this is a really great.

[00:21:23] You like the multiple step.

[00:21:25] I think it's a perfect like balance of like the where but it's achievable.

[00:21:29] And then there's like kind of a fun scavenger hunt, but we've got 90 minutes.

[00:21:32] So it's like not that big of a deal.

[00:21:34] I'm loving it.

[00:21:35] I'm actually like rewatching slash some of the episodes watching for the first time of

[00:21:38] survivor 45 and I'm like, holy shit, this is great.

[00:21:41] Yeah.

[00:21:42] Okay.

[00:21:43] Well, I love to get your thoughts on that too.

[00:21:45] Yeah.

[00:21:46] Okay.

[00:21:47] So far, my take drew so interesting.

[00:21:48] I know that's not what this is.

[00:21:49] Oh, okay.

[00:21:50] Yeah.

[00:21:52] So all right, but back to Maria.

[00:21:55] Yeah.

[00:21:56] So it's kind of unclear what she's what made her go with what Charlie wanted to do when

[00:22:04] it seemed like her initial feeling was okay, I'm going to stick with the women.

[00:22:08] But then coming into this episode, then it was so confusing about why didn't him say

[00:22:16] anything to Maria about the six person alliance?

[00:22:22] It seemed like that you would tell her, right?

[00:22:24] Yes.

[00:22:25] Tim is such an interesting character out here, like playing so chill, you know?

[00:22:30] And like I mean, I have to say, I always was pretty, I feel again, you project yourself

[00:22:36] into all these diseases.

[00:22:37] I saw it cue, cue is me telling just like being so desperate for Dishon to like be my

[00:22:43] ally because I'm at the bottom.

[00:22:45] I mean, my tribe has the fewest people and you know, Louvus looking so great.

[00:22:50] And that's like cue comes in there and he's like, here's the plan.

[00:22:52] We'll do these alliances.

[00:22:53] And like at the end of the day, Hunter and Tim have known the people on their tribe, like

[00:22:57] so much longer than cue for this one second.

[00:22:59] Like it makes a thousand percent sense to me that it's much more real for cue than it

[00:23:05] is for either of those guys.

[00:23:06] But the funny thing about Tim is he is into it.

[00:23:09] He just didn't do anything about it or tell Maria about it.

[00:23:12] And then also I was like maybe he was lying, maybe Ben is his number one and he was just not

[00:23:17] trying to tell cue that.

[00:23:18] But it seems like no, he does like Maria.

[00:23:20] I mean, he's just a little I think a little too laid back for this game but it's kind

[00:23:25] of working for him right now.

[00:23:26] Very laid back although cue was like, but why didn't you?

[00:23:29] Why wouldn't you say that?

[00:23:30] Like that makes me very suspicious that why would you say something and he almost said to

[00:23:35] Maria, he explained it like well, I didn't want to force it on you.

[00:23:38] I kind of wanted you to meet them for yourself and see if you like them.

[00:23:42] And Maria is like, yeah, they think that's good.

[00:23:44] Like we said last week that for all these people, options is great.

[00:23:51] You want to have this other alliance in your back pocket.

[00:23:54] Maybe you go with your tribal lines and maybe you stick with this other option.

[00:24:00] Maybe for Yanu why it's working the best for them is that they don't have a plan B.

[00:24:06] They're kind of all in on this plan.

[00:24:08] Yeah, well I mean, that's the thing.

[00:24:10] I mean, it worked out for them so well also because they were all safe.

[00:24:14] Like I do think it probably still would have gone that one of the SEGA or NAMIs would

[00:24:18] go home regardless but I do think like they got lucky here that they were just also,

[00:24:23] they're all in the power position.

[00:24:25] No one's exposed.

[00:24:26] I think like okay, well here you like you said you like it when I ask you questions.

[00:24:30] Who was going home if that other group lost?

[00:24:33] So I think it's cute.

[00:24:35] Okay.

[00:24:39] It's interesting.

[00:24:40] I'm trying to think from who so it was what hunter tabbing all the all the non I think

[00:24:49] I would think I would say it's probably Kenzie maybe Ben.

[00:24:57] You think like one because they're more expendable to the rest of their tribes.

[00:25:00] Yeah, I think that's basically like that like one of the tribes has to flinch and blank

[00:25:04] and say okay, we don't care that much about this person.

[00:25:08] I think that really what hurt Mariah the most was that it took too long for the combination

[00:25:16] of Tim and Ben mostly and ultimately Maria and Charlie to throw out the name.

[00:25:25] They stuck to their guns too much in that.

[00:25:29] I think if they would have seemed more willing and this is kind of like a new data point

[00:25:33] because I don't think we've had this before that that I guess it kind of came up last

[00:25:38] season.

[00:25:39] I don't know if you got into survivor 45 yet, but I have a little bit of a spoiler.

[00:25:42] Yeah, yeah, I just okay.

[00:25:44] I recently watched the episode where Emily is at the swap and this was actually the exact same

[00:25:49] logic she used of why she decided to go with Reba instead of Bello because she was like

[00:25:55] Reba's got all these cracks because I guess they're talking about like seafood and

[00:25:58] J and stuff.

[00:25:59] Even though I don't even know that that's true that Reba had more cracks than Bello.

[00:26:02] I can't wait to find out.

[00:26:08] But that is I never really thought about that way because I think you could have, I think

[00:26:12] it was kind of to see Getsroman also that they tried to stay so strong because I think

[00:26:16] that I was watching this in my girlfriend and she's like who's the threat on Siga?

[00:26:20] Like you're looking at it.

[00:26:21] There's no like obvious.

[00:26:22] It's just a bunch of people that you're not like oh there's like the one threat you're

[00:26:25] look at Nami and you're like Tevin is this social like amazing guy and like Hunter's like

[00:26:31] star and all the challenges.

[00:26:32] If Siga had come in being like yeah we're together.

[00:26:35] We're like we're the weakling nerd tribe against like this amazing Nami.

[00:26:40] I feel like that maybe had some legs.

[00:26:41] Yeah and I know it wasn't by design but Venus actually kind of saved Nami here in this

[00:26:46] episode like Venus came in and was like oh my god these people I'm sick of them.

[00:26:50] I want to vote with you and then they're like oh great let's let's keep Nami intact where

[00:26:55] Siga was the opposite of that that they were like no we're united front we're all on

[00:26:59] the same page and it was like we got to break that up.

[00:27:02] Right right right totally totally which like yeah Nami be grateful to Venus okay.

[00:27:08] Be grateful to Venus and I wonder if this is the type of thing where for a future season

[00:27:13] should it should a tribe project more weakness of like oh my god we can't stand each other

[00:27:19] we're so dysfunctional as opposed to Siga which was always the vibe so the vibes are

[00:27:25] so good we're so united we're all friends we're doing everything together and I think

[00:27:30] that you make yourself more of a target by coming off as like the perfect tribe as opposed

[00:27:36] to Nami which came across as very dysfunctional which kind of protected them all.

[00:27:41] No absolutely and nothing makes you believe no one nothing like makes you feel real bonded

[00:27:47] with someone more than them shit talking their friends you know and so like the other people

[00:27:52] like you see like Tevin and Q like complaining together about Venus like that's like actual

[00:27:57] bonding you know like the Siga people are so like in their thing I feel like they were

[00:28:03] not really like yeah not really making those same like connections in the same way that

[00:28:08] the Nami people were.

[00:28:10] Yeah heavy now could you recontextualize the survivor 41 tribes with that in mind where

[00:28:18] you know you have you know Ricard and Shan who come in together yeah so it's funny because

[00:28:26] actually our vote could have gone so different in your history book thing if it hadn't okay

[00:28:30] so we had Ricard and Shan then you had me Leana Tiff and Xander so four of us that were

[00:28:37] trying to pretending we were going to stay a thing but the whole time we had this big crack

[00:28:41] between like it was like Me Leana and Tiff and Xander kind of not in that but also kind

[00:28:46] of me Tiff and Xander kind of had our thing without Leana so that's like you know this

[00:28:51] like fracture you think then you have Lou Vu completely intact.

[00:28:56] But super dysfunctional but not that dysfunctional you know they stuck together for plenty

[00:29:01] of votes there so it was you had the entire you know Erica Heather, Dishon, Danny and

[00:29:08] of course Nassir and Sydney to add that to my 100 count down.

[00:29:13] I'm a speedrun.

[00:29:15] And so yes in the end it was that the most like in some way so Sydney was extendable to

[00:29:20] most of the people on Lou Vu but not Danny but I like so and it ended up that Sydney went

[00:29:26] home but the entire group the entire most people were going to vote for me which really

[00:29:32] if we hadn't done the whole knowledge is power flip around would have been a very different

[00:29:37] type of vote to the other ones that you're describing because I was it was because I

[00:29:41] was a threat and not in this majority tribe but I also wasn't extendable to my tribe

[00:29:45] which is how I ended up getting the idol like almost played on me.

[00:29:48] Yeah and it would have been the only time that really like somebody who was a threat

[00:29:54] was the target.

[00:29:55] Right.

[00:29:56] Well and my mistake absolutely there was I was being greedy and I wanted to keep Sydney

[00:30:01] even though it in retrospect I should have just been like go for Sydney because that's

[00:30:06] like the admin out tension there but it also wasn't so clear because I kind of thought

[00:30:09] she was more in there than it was.

[00:30:11] It's so hard.

[00:30:12] It's so hard survivor you know like why would it it's so hard the tribe that stuck together

[00:30:18] they were two united so then that was bad and then like you know like Mariah said Aubrey

[00:30:23] was her favorite player and like that's bad.

[00:30:25] It's so hard.

[00:30:26] It's so hard.

[00:30:27] Yeah.

[00:30:28] Yep.

[00:30:29] Anything could go wrong.

[00:30:30] It doesn't matter or co-wrong in the Aubrey case.

[00:30:32] That's a trick home.

[00:30:33] But you know that cue I feel like it's really I don't know where he got this Aubrey thing

[00:30:39] from where Aubrey is you know a lovely person but like what like he's talking about Aubrey

[00:30:47] like she was this like strategic assassin and maybe it's because I got to know Aubrey

[00:30:53] a little bit like that's not her.

[00:30:56] No I know I think honestly okay I think okay I don't know cue.

[00:31:01] My interpretation he looks at Mariah.

[00:31:04] He's like why is Mariah here she doesn't look like he looks like someone who you put

[00:31:08] on a survival fitness show what's Mariah doing here she looks kind of nerdy she's got to

[00:31:13] be like a super.

[00:31:14] She can't even jump.

[00:31:15] She can't even jump you know and you look at that person you're like they must be a super

[00:31:19] fan nerd Aubrey there you go proves it you know I think it's like one of those confirmation

[00:31:23] by her.

[00:31:24] What's going to happen when he talks to Liz?

[00:31:26] No not like any Liz this episode which is a shame.

[00:31:30] We haven't got enough billionaire Liz content.

[00:31:34] Not enough not enough yeah I know I mean Aubrey is just really not that I think you have

[00:31:40] to take take a classic I think the best answer to that question is like straight forward

[00:31:45] you know like Sandra so yeah keep it simple yeah I don't know he just had like a very

[00:31:52] like negative interpretation of Aubrey it's like every like yeah the fact that they're

[00:31:57] like he's like she's so smart she's so smart about the game she likes Aubrey it's yeah

[00:32:03] this was his quote he says Aubrey she was setting people up left and right and if she

[00:32:08] thinks she's going to set me up she can cancel Christmas that that's like who is Aubrey

[00:32:16] setting up.

[00:32:17] Wow I mean wow canceling Christmas out here I know that's the thing Aubrey is that that's

[00:32:23] not really her thing I guess maybe he just watched edge of extinction you know and

[00:32:27] he saw like the the failed like lines from Aubrey and is like that Aubrey she's sneaky.

[00:32:33] Mm-hmm yeah maybe I mean she was she was a big target there as a returning player in

[00:32:38] that season but yeah that was really one that just really looks like oh she's Aubrey

[00:32:44] she's an Aubrey she's got to go.

[00:32:45] Yeah she's got to go I don't know dude I think I don't think she's got too much longer

[00:32:50] in the game to be honest.

[00:32:51] Oh see I feel like that he's kind of like a heating up right now I feel like I'm higher

[00:32:56] on him than I've been all season at this point just like feel like that he's come in

[00:32:59] and I think that really has been really leading this big you know journey six alliance so

[00:33:08] I don't think that he'll get to the end like I wouldn't pick him as the winner but I

[00:33:12] really just feel like that as of right now I feel like that his game is peaking right

[00:33:16] now and maybe he's peaking too soon.

[00:33:18] Yeah well I mean I think I think he's just very very exposed you know what I mean like

[00:33:23] he like is already a super physical guy it's very very apparent and he's playing like so

[00:33:28] hard talking to everybody.

[00:33:30] He's got his sixth thing he's like really like dictating the vote in a lot of ways.

[00:33:35] It also okay another parallel to my season I think that happened you know Shannon Ricard

[00:33:39] very much in that spot the small group they had a lot of power because that and it ended

[00:33:44] up that Shan was like dictating the votes to the actual majority tribe of like Danny

[00:33:49] and Dishon and they were like this is so annoying we have the numbers why is Shan telling

[00:33:52] us what to do I think you a little bit he has a lot of power but he doesn't have really

[00:33:58] the thing to back it up I think like me yeah maybe they end up going on like a teacus

[00:34:02] style thing but I also think it could be he's the thing Tika had is that they seemed not

[00:34:08] threatening his individuals you know and like I do think that you just out you know as

[00:34:14] as such like obvious obvious threat that I just I think one of these splits goes the wrong

[00:34:19] way and that he's in trouble you know.

[00:34:21] So it was a big deal for Venus here that Venus really wanted to make sure that one of the

[00:34:30] women stayed in the game didn't didn't want to see it be Mariah really really wanted

[00:34:35] it Charlie to go home. I mean think the irony is that you know I think that Charlie is like

[00:34:42] you know all about working with the women totally totally but I mean yeah I mean I like I said

[00:34:47] love Charlie yeah he's gonna go with with women for sure but also Venus that was smart I'm

[00:34:53] like Venus is out here saying saying smart stuff what if they've gotten Charlie out there that

[00:34:59] would have changed the entire game like like if they'd gotten Charlie out there Nami and purple

[00:35:07] are like just like would have made like the best move ever you know but you're right that it's

[00:35:12] like too hard is this I understand what Venus is is going for there but I just kind of feel like

[00:35:19] that it's kind of like I think that Charlie is a more powerful like and you know we can see the

[00:35:25] board more than Venus is able to but I kind of feel like that if if I was going to like craft

[00:35:31] a path for Venus to get to the end I think that Maria I think is the most important person in terms

[00:35:39] of looking at this journey six she's the person who's like I'm not really feeling it's fine

[00:35:46] and I think that that Maria you know she knows what it is she's the person who could go to all

[00:35:53] these other people that are not in it she has told us Tim's not my number one Charlie's my number

[00:36:00] one yeah so if Maria has Charlie and then is able to okay I know I have I can get Venus can I get

[00:36:08] Kenzie like I think that there's Mike more of a chance to build up the resistance and I think

[00:36:14] that Charlie is probably more likely to be a bigger part of that than Mariah ultimately would be

[00:36:20] so I know that for Venus that she would have rather have seen Charlie go out at this spot but I

[00:36:26] think that long term I think that if Venus goes far I think it's going to be probably with Charlie

[00:36:32] more so than within what Mariah would have brought to it. I mean that's a really good point and like

[00:36:38] I said I really do think that the fact of the like plus one alliance saying their plus ones is just

[00:36:45] like a really valuable information that they gave away to each other so I do feel like that and yeah

[00:36:49] like you said Maria is not really as into it as the other one so that definitely could be a ticking

[00:36:54] time bomb for people to find that out. But I do so much about Charlie's angels early on in the season

[00:36:59] yeah for it to have gone nowhere. Yeah no that's fair I mean I think the reason why I liked Venus

[00:37:05] saying that is only like that Charlie getting out is just such an impactful vote like in terms of

[00:37:09] he's playing a great game I think so like that's just like he's a big threat to win but I do think

[00:37:14] you've got a good point that like he is the type that yeah that she really could go with and let's

[00:37:19] like at the end of the day she probably should be like trying to get in with Siga because like

[00:37:26] Nami hates her like every single one of them hates her so like you're better off really like

[00:37:30] getting in with the with the other side. Yeah then what a 12 days that must have been those are

[00:37:35] people that are not missing words like that was like they're fighting that little bit there you know.

[00:37:40] Yeah I mean there was even that one moment and you alluded to it earlier where Hunter was going

[00:37:47] to look for the key and then Venus is like so what do you think he's what do you think it about

[00:37:55] so I was like I don't know don't ask me. How did I know yeah yeah it's so fun I mean it's the

[00:38:00] classic thing when you like hate your roommate and then like everything they do is so annoying but

[00:38:05] like also you're starving and so yeah that's that's what we love right so good thing. But the thing

[00:38:10] that's also interesting is that that that I don't know I don't know if Soda knows this but I think Soda

[00:38:15] and Venus need each other that they're there they're the people and they don't know what they don't

[00:38:20] know but the danger for that it's is not Venus is not Soda it's this it's this other alliance that's

[00:38:29] formed this journey six that's going to be of targeting probably Soda sooner than Venus. Right right

[00:38:37] which is like I mean what a beautiful thing that would be if Soda and Venus can get together I mean

[00:38:42] like I said I really really really do think that that conversation that Venus had with Soda and

[00:38:46] Kenzie was important like that that general thing where Venus is thinking Venus is there to play

[00:38:52] Venus wants like the women against the men like that's just something that people can work with

[00:38:57] and like has like a she has a viewpoint you know what I mean and like I really like uh that

[00:39:02] would be some good good survivor stuff if they if they can figure it out I mean yeah we don't really

[00:39:07] know um because like Soda it seemed like Soda and Tevin are really close but then like Soda

[00:39:12] and Hunter not so much and like Hunter at least at one point was like I'm fighting with Soda to be

[00:39:17] like Tevin's number one I think Soda is a smart social player and can see that Hunter and Tevin it

[00:39:23] seems like have drifted a little away from her and uh that'd be so fun if she works with Venus

[00:39:28] to get one of them out yeah it would be we just haven't gotten that point of view from Soda in

[00:39:34] the episode it's like we really we really haven't gotten you know we we've only got to see how Tevin

[00:39:40] thinks of Soda but we have really haven't gotten to see Soda's perspective on how she views

[00:39:47] Tevin's relationship with Hunter yeah totally totally uh that's what I'm saying everybody needs

[00:39:53] to be scared that's what makes survivor votes better than Big Brother votes sorry sorry

[00:39:58] audience this is the survivor podcast okay everybody gets to be scared except for the one person who

[00:40:03] wanted immunity and like that's what I don't like about the Merge Trophy thing is like I want to

[00:40:07] see Tevin scared we haven't seen scared Tevin at all like what does that look like yeah you know

[00:40:12] not yet maybe get that get that next week with the split vote that's right let's do it split

[00:40:18] this is just my job yeah I know I know like and I really feel like that you ask me if I care about

[00:40:24] Merge Tory um yeah honestly like I kind of feel like Merge right it's fine this split vote next time

[00:40:31] is what I really don't like and I'm glad they do it at 12 and not it and in your season they

[00:40:37] did it at 10 and then you lose the final 10 vote you lose the final nine vote at least they do it at

[00:40:42] 12 and you lose and we're gonna do the same thing again where somebody's not gonna make the jury

[00:40:46] because they get voted out first next week oh that's right I saw sorry spoiler alert for so I

[00:40:52] do know I saw that one seafood that's what having to see food yes that's so mean I hate that yeah

[00:40:57] I hate that I hate that most not on the the jury she's not on the jury yeah but then so in

[00:41:03] the they just split vote the first person against vote out won't be on the jury and the second

[00:41:06] person will be so it's like you're whether you made the jury is dependent on whether your other

[00:41:10] random split vote person lasted longer that's so dumb to mean game to mean game but I just feel like

[00:41:16] that we waited like okay everybody we're here it's the Merge are you all the same beach but like we never

[00:41:21] get a real like normal vote until right exactly you know exactly now until the final 10 most interesting

[00:41:27] chaotic like I can't describe how overwhelming the Merge was like there's so many people I had been

[00:41:35] talking to the same three people for a week and then all of a sudden there's 12 people and there's

[00:41:40] like also a million camera people and you're just like trying to like figure out what's ever happening

[00:41:45] and then you're like am I talking to too many people am I talking to enough people and that's the

[00:41:48] thing I do think I loved I loved what Charlie said of that he was like trying to be a goalkeeper

[00:41:54] like you that is that is obviously the way to play it as the as a not safe person like that's so

[00:41:59] smart I'm just like oh if there's a shot on goal I got to defend that but otherwise I'm just like

[00:42:04] chilling I love that and it really like I remember feeling so frantic and I think about the people in

[00:42:10] my season who ultimately we're like playing so much better than I realize like like Danny Danny's

[00:42:15] always someone I think about who like was playing a much better game than I understood at the time

[00:42:19] because I was always like what's he even doing and it's like right because he was in a really good

[00:42:22] spot so he was not not doing what Sean D'Achein was doing which was running around and making

[00:42:27] everyone realize that he was a big threat you know yeah survivor man it's hard yeah it's hard

[00:42:34] million different things to account for something that came up in the episode I want to have you

[00:42:39] ever heard of this before Venus was pitching okay name for a name okay I'll tell you she believes

[00:42:47] in she believes in name for a name okay yeah you tell me somebody tell me the person who's on

[00:42:52] the bottom on on your tribe and I'll tell you who's on the bottom now I feel like was she gonna

[00:42:56] say herself yeah yeah that I don't know what if Venus had the name that was it was like Venus's

[00:43:03] name I think Venus was like I will vote for anyone on my tribe that's my name you know but then

[00:43:08] everybody in the game like at the merch feast they all kind of subscribe to it name for a name

[00:43:13] like they did it name for a name from from their tribes but they didn't want to do with Venus and

[00:43:18] actually Mariah was even like I don't know about this Venus right right to KG I mean yeah it

[00:43:24] definitely is quite a name for it like like it's just like a very transactional approach other than

[00:43:32] like I like you guys like wow we're really this three like we're really vibing like I don't really

[00:43:38] get the best sense there's just so way to do it but name for a name who know it like we're going

[00:43:43] to be watching survivor 52 and everyone's gonna be like so we did the name for a name yeah yeah it's

[00:43:48] funny how these things start Venus could be a game changer yeah yeah put her put her on there yeah no

[00:43:54] but it's funny I mean it really it just is so interesting how and maybe this is like something

[00:44:00] people have just been learning throughout the new era maybe people are you know like you studying

[00:44:03] this of like it's gonna be the people on the bottom but yeah I think I would have expected a little more

[00:44:10] worrying about the threats you know but I guess like also like that group of people just didn't really

[00:44:15] have a super standout threat among them right and at the I wonder if this has been the thing where

[00:44:21] you know the new era where maybe is this the evolution of where it's gone where so much of the new

[00:44:26] era has been about anybody it's a threat gotta go gotta go gotta go gotta go and have we reach the

[00:44:31] point where the threats rather than targeting themselves like we've seen through a great deal of

[00:44:37] this new era that this could be where we're starting to see the threats say hey the only way one

[00:44:43] of us wins is if we go to the end with all the threats right I mean it's worth a try but then you

[00:44:49] know you get to the end of the game and you've got an actual tough final which I know happened in

[00:44:53] survivor 45 so you know at the end of the day you do want to try to be the only threat left you know

[00:44:59] so I don't know I don't know but it's I prefer that you know that's fun in some ways get keep the

[00:45:04] threats together and have like these people that are really trying to play hard together but then

[00:45:09] then when they're just voting out all the week people like are they trying to play hard are

[00:45:12] they threats it's the threats as determined by the challenge threats the challenge threats have

[00:45:17] determined what a threat is it's not necessarily a situation where the best game players got together

[00:45:22] and said okay let's we're the five best people at this game let's go to the end right which is

[00:45:28] another like kind of annoying thing about the mergatory thing where it's just like now when you

[00:45:32] don't even flip the outcome on the head I mean who could imagine that for the people just win

[00:45:37] the challenge and then it's safe then it's just always going to be yeah the strongest people are

[00:45:41] safe for the first one well we opened talking about the mergatory challenge and then we've really

[00:45:46] haven't talked about it but it was just it went as sideways as it possibly could have gone with the

[00:45:52] rock draw and again it was kudos to the orange tribe because it was very close just a hunter he's

[00:46:01] just like he's got all those puzzles that he's got that puzzle on his face but he knew it he should

[00:46:06] do something with that puzzle enterprise that he has yeah just all on his own yeah but in all

[00:46:13] seriousness uh should they do a draft like is there a better way to do this did you see Eliza's

[00:46:19] tweet about no what did she say that's what she she was like the great thing about the schoolyard

[00:46:24] pick both you're more likely to have more even teams and you have people who are pissed because

[00:46:30] they weren't picked till the end which was apparently like her I guess in fan state they love the rock

[00:46:35] draw stay the rock draw the rock draw and then the person just gets to bet on the obviously would

[00:46:39] it like tiff didn't have to do the challenge and then just got to eat and was safe uh in my day at

[00:46:45] minimum you had just stayed alone on an island for three days I think they feel like this is

[00:46:50] part of the dangerous fun of like it's a bag of rocks what could happen you don't know it's so fun

[00:46:57] listen this is the thing and the ultimate danger and survivor comes from the other players

[00:47:04] that's just always gonna be more dangerous than a freaking bag of rocks as someone whose game was

[00:47:07] blown up by several bags of rocks so yeah yeah just see not a good not a good way to do it last season

[00:47:14] and again I don't want to spoil the merch for you uh but the uh the rock trope was not good last season

[00:47:19] either no I saw that I saw that yeah again a super obvious super obvious one coutura guest it right

[00:47:24] out and you're good to go it's just yeah it's just not that fun um okay but circling back you know

[00:47:30] again I had I caught up I did some homework in uh prep for this podcast and I listened to

[00:47:34] I hadn't yet heard your interview with Jeff Probe oh first of all that was amazing so nice

[00:47:39] that he did it and that you got him and it was such a sweet great interview thank you happy

[00:47:44] want to take a sec to say all this complaining about it they're doing great the thing that is so

[00:47:49] great about Jeff is like he's not like phoning it in bag of rocks no he just genuinely we disagree

[00:47:54] about what's more fun yeah yeah I mean it's that it is not from like the perspective of laziness or

[00:48:03] or anything like that like uh that you know uh that they do it because they think that that's

[00:48:10] the that's the best thing I mean yeah so if anything you could fault them for they care too much

[00:48:16] and try to do too many things right but it's definitely not from you know and I got to tell Jeff

[00:48:21] that like he is not phoning it in no and it's it's beautiful and it's sweet and you know it

[00:48:27] warmed my heart to see the giant ball back you know we were the first ones we had to remember

[00:48:31] to do that it's a staple of the new era yeah yeah but did they just like push it do they even have

[00:48:37] to push it they just now they have to climb up the the giant ball that's nothing I know I know

[00:48:41] out of the sand look at you what was terrible I'm one of them your transformation is complete now

[00:48:48] that you were able to say back in my day we had the pull dig up the giant ball and push it

[00:48:54] ball was sitting there oh yeah your giant ball did you even have to break an hour glass

[00:49:03] so silly so silly but I just okay that is one part that's cool that is the thing I do like about the

[00:49:10] the meditory thing is that was for us anyway by far the hardest challenge and we were the most

[00:49:16] depleted and it was fucking epic yes to do it and it's like we earned the merch but then we didn't

[00:49:22] yeah I want to say like nothing I don't really remember like when they did last time this seemed

[00:49:28] like the most like normal like challenge then you know something like though the first couple

[00:49:35] were just like so insanely tough yeah I think I think this was pretty much the same as 45 it was a

[00:49:41] different different challenge puzzle situation but yeah the first couple were ridiculous ridiculous

[00:49:47] yeah um the feast also was not at the sanctuary it was at the beach with everybody have they

[00:49:53] done that before oh I couldn't figure out where what it was just like on the side to think it was

[00:49:57] on the side because they all walked back together I feel like they in the past we've had like this

[00:50:02] awkward moments where it's like the the losers are back at the camp and I'm like okay well one of

[00:50:07] you think they're gonna get back what should we do uh where they all sort of came back together and

[00:50:11] then they ate uh I was waiting for somebody from the losers to come up and like they're like hey

[00:50:16] can we ask you guys a question yeah right right right I know it's it's it's so awkward the being

[00:50:22] right there we had one uh the I mean the reward challenge that I won where we did the right did the

[00:50:27] puzzle really fast that was one where it was like we had a plate of sandwiches and we were just

[00:50:31] supposed to go eat it like somewhere else it's so awkward those moments of like being like with

[00:50:37] the people that aren't gonna get to eat and then you're about to go uh and the merge phase I mean yeah

[00:50:42] and that's so sad the other people don't get the merge phase like I don't know I just feel like

[00:50:47] it takes a little bit of like the pattern it gotta earn everything but you can't but they can

[00:50:52] just never never earn it like you know yeah yeah uh do you was was the Flint uh remind me it's

[00:51:00] my 41 was that all way that was part of it you didn't you didn't wait to get that was always part

[00:51:05] of it sorry for you was there sorry for you is all there he's also doing this thing now of like

[00:51:09] really trying to make it a thing of like if you didn't win you're the what losers yeah we know about

[00:51:16] that that new cat you know okay um no that was there but we no one had the intense suffering that

[00:51:23] yani had because we all succeeded in the sweat versus savvy we we got it so yasa even though we then

[00:51:32] lost the next two immunities we always had our fire going from the beginning so that really gosh

[00:51:38] that is rough 12 days off it's just it's so cold and then you have no way like we would

[00:51:45] literally on the nights when it rained we had a really good like shelter for our fire and we were

[00:51:49] just literally like sleep next to it you know like that sucks that sucks poor poor yani sorry for

[00:51:56] the for sorry for you know what are they the losers also known as yano tribe

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[00:52:32] website for details. I mean let's take some questions from the audience we got a bunch okay and

[00:52:42] let's see um how about a question about uh okay is it time to retire the big boulder the challenge

[00:52:51] no it's a stable no big boulder forever okay me and that big boulder we're connecting uh bits of

[00:52:58] my skin are probably still on it somewhere so no big boulder there other parts of the meritoria I could

[00:53:03] I could be personally yeah okay um how about a question from uh palo where does Venus go from here

[00:53:11] her edit is so substantial yeah okay do you think is Venus likely to be a target when we get to

[00:53:18] the uh groups of sex yeah I mean I think she I don't think she's gonna be like a target per se but

[00:53:25] I think she could I think her worst case is she swap like is in a group that they all like each other

[00:53:31] and then she's just or is with a lot of people from nami right exactly well a lot of people that

[00:53:36] like each other except for right you know yeah like yeah actually swapping with nami is probably her

[00:53:41] worst case scenario but I think if she gets with any other like mixture of people she's just like

[00:53:46] such an obvious vote to be with someone and she's so ready to vote out one of those nami I mean

[00:53:51] I gotta say I want to break up some of these things like that would be such a surprise you know

[00:53:58] like get get someone out of there use Venus I want I want Venus to go far I mean I do think

[00:54:02] realistically we're looking at zero vote finalist upside but great so many of our zero vote

[00:54:09] finalists have been iconic iconic legendary know it all is even yeah so yeah living know it all is even

[00:54:16] yeah okay what do you think do you think there's anywhere else you think there's there's

[00:54:21] there's winter upside again I think it would be very hard for her because I feel like that um

[00:54:26] I don't think that she's gonna be a person who's going to be able to put something together

[00:54:32] like I've talked about this a little bit over the last couple of weeks I've been sort of like

[00:54:35] developing this theory of and I mean this lovingly of like there are the people that are sort of like

[00:54:40] uh that that make these failed bids that I've talked about as also known as the losers um

[00:54:46] sure but then there's also the nothings and I think that you can go from somebody who is just

[00:54:51] sort of like a non entity like Liz like and I think that you can sort of be Liz and you can

[00:54:56] just be like okay just like posting along and then all of a sudden then you pop at the end

[00:55:02] and you can win the game from being nothing but I think that once you are a person who is like

[00:55:09] striking out I'm not sure necessarily what you need to do and we've seen players who are the

[00:55:14] who are the failed failed bids give me a failed good example okay well I don't want to spoil last

[00:55:18] season four I know what happened okay uh it would be an example of somebody who did oh really oh

[00:55:24] oh really trying to stir the pot trying to get things going come on everybody let's do this uh

[00:55:31] is that what's going to happen for Jake is that where Jake is going and that's where Jake's going

[00:55:34] yeah yeah that's where that's where uh Romeo went ultimately um I'm trying to think of uh

[00:55:41] it's a zander a little bit I would say for sure in some ways different little different but yeah

[00:55:45] yeah you know sort of like pushing from the bottom of hey like come on let's flip this whole thing over

[00:55:52] if you're like nah I don't think so yeah yeah yeah yeah I could yeah I could say I mean

[00:55:58] the thing is right now the thing to flip over it feels flip overable you know so like I do think

[00:56:04] if it's not too late yet right if she gets into like a good group in this six and they

[00:56:09] and they are whatever whatever number it'll be and uh they can take out a tevin like that'd be

[00:56:15] crazy but like Venus is ready to go to make a move and I think she could get into a group yeah

[00:56:22] once you get into that like everybody they can't keep getting away with it come on who's with me

[00:56:28] you know uh like that person like never goes on to win right but I just do think it's way too early

[00:56:35] for that because there's just no them yet there's no there's no like like you know like

[00:56:40] I think I think ultimately that is what the like that's what Erica was able to do ultimately

[00:56:44] you know what I mean but uh yeah you know no one you're gonna be a nothing first or a failed bit

[00:56:49] but I feel that she went more from like a non-entity and you were there uh but like I feel

[00:56:53] that she went more from like a non-entity to like emerging at the right moment as opposed to

[00:56:58] the person who was like really like hey come on let's get this uh let's let's turn this whole

[00:57:04] thing on a tent well right I feel like I was more like come on Erica let's go

[00:57:09] she was like not yet because it's not smart yeah but you were too good at it and then that's

[00:57:15] what that's why you had to go how do you had you stayed ultimately like at these like it's not

[00:57:21] gonna take yeah right right no exactly no I think that makes less sense I guess my point is

[00:57:26] how do you yeah I mean you just have to be you have to be able to do it because like my point

[00:57:31] way point was more like I feel like she was talking sometimes about like we got to flip it

[00:57:35] right then didn't actually go for it because she knew that that was not right and you can't

[00:57:39] really flip it yet but it's either it's either like pretty soon it's like it's either like she's

[00:57:44] got to actually flip it or the you know that her she's on that trajectory of best case scenario

[00:57:50] zero-volved finalists yeah I've also I've uh so I've been what has this said I've been watching

[00:57:54] forever 45 and also my girlfriend just watched all of blood versus water your channel

[00:58:00] and and the Philippines also so I've been um around that and I do feel like also if you become too

[00:58:05] much the talker but never the doer then you get Monica Cole pepper yeah well last time someone

[00:58:11] talked about Monica Cole pepper not recently yeah so there you go yeah okay all right doing it for

[00:58:17] Monica all right who's thinking of Monica Rob uh Monica has to think of Monica okay all right how

[00:58:25] about um oh Wilson do you know how do you feel about this Will says how does Evie feel knowing that they

[00:58:31] are the undisputed preeminent new air nerd I don't know that that is true but I mean I love first

[00:58:38] well thank you Will um I you know proud nerd here I have to say I think that there are much more

[00:58:45] prominent pre a new era of nerds I mean we got Carson we got Brandon like a lot of a lot of

[00:58:52] nerds out there your stock is up today Evie that's you know you know uh some puzzles they're simple

[00:58:59] they're simple and they're effective yeah and they're free okay yeah yeah all right how about um

[00:59:07] Raive says is it just me or can Q not turn off the teacher role adopted on Yano is he starting to cause

[00:59:14] trouble for himself well I thought it was so interesting and I was trying to find a way to tweet this

[00:59:18] and I and I couldn't return into a tweet but um when Mariah was at the tribal council okay and Mariah

[00:59:25] was like look I got to tell you all it wasn't unanimous I was that and then um you could Q uh

[00:59:32] then was like giving uh Mariah some uh some words of wisdom and he said like hey Mariah

[00:59:40] don't let anybody mute your game okay you you gotta like uh you gotta speak your truth

[00:59:46] I'm like this is like the exact opposite advice that he gave to Daniel don't let anyone mute your

[00:59:53] game I will now proceed to vogue out yes yes funny how's everything going good the vibes are good

[01:00:00] but I'm glad with everyone I have to say I do think that would wear on me the teacher uh energy

[01:00:08] certainly yeah I definitely you know obviously you're getting the edits but I do think in a lot

[01:00:13] of the conversations we saw Q is doing a lot of the talking and other people are doing a lot of

[01:00:18] they're like oh yeah yeah and I just that's not really the position I think you want to be in

[01:00:22] typically you don't see series series doing a lot of listening you know um so um yeah but you know

[01:00:30] the other thing is you just have to be who you are you just like cannot be someone different so

[01:00:34] like he's doing fine he's not Bruce you know yeah I thought this was Q's best episode of the season

[01:00:41] I don't I okay I think outcome wise yes I just I'm really nervous for him I feel like he's

[01:00:47] really exposed I think he's gonna get picked off eventually but I just feel like that this was

[01:00:51] the the week where everything was coming up Q yeah yeah I do I mean yeah what do you think about

[01:00:58] it's so funny that he as the one who was so upset with Jolinsky was the one I'm Yani that

[01:01:04] League multiple times was like you know what about me yeah it's me and then it was ever like no not

[01:01:08] really like the Colby Donaldson approach but it's see like he's an interesting guy you know yeah

[01:01:14] yeah he said that he was then just gonna uh try to say that to Kenzie that was gonna be his plan

[01:01:20] if they went to one more time but I think he definitely had like a low moment or two yeah yeah

[01:01:26] I mean yeah I mean he did honestly I feel like the first couple ever so I mean he had a lot of

[01:01:32] power in those those uh Yanu votes like even though you know Tiff ostensibly was kind of like

[01:01:38] in that middle position he was the one that had their relationships with Anu and Jess and you

[01:01:43] know I he did great in the pre-march for sure he did um but you know I love Tiffany's position so

[01:01:49] much more because then she has not in addition to Idleisha she has you know basically Q out in front

[01:01:55] as sort of like the big leader shield Kenzie is a little bit out in front as sort of like the social

[01:02:03] charisma shield so really feel like that Tiffany is looking like she's in a great spot okay um

[01:02:09] Marianne oh catch okay oh what's up Marianne about to be married in a couple days who's your

[01:02:16] non-threatening favorite player wow in the current cast presumably I guess all time yeah okay wait

[01:02:23] I'll do okay non-threat okay I don't know where he falls this I love Ben we haven't talked about

[01:02:29] Ben enough yes he's so fun like and it's just do you shred Evie you know I don't personally shred

[01:02:37] but I love that it's just he it's like do you talk to me but it's not in the game shred evolution

[01:02:44] oh

[01:02:45] can't hold

[01:02:47] that's it for that yeah shred evolution

[01:02:52] oh man um I just I just love it's just like he loves rock and he's gonna talk about rock and he's

[01:02:58] like the rocker guy who's like super nice like just a sweetie sweetie um I think he probably

[01:03:04] eventually will be like some sort of social thought but I think he's in a great spot too like no one's

[01:03:08] looking at him he's like yeah he's just a sweetie sweetie so yeah I like him a lot um yeah that's

[01:03:15] probably my favorite non-threatening I think I think the thing is like everyone's a threat like it's like

[01:03:19] you know Charlie's a threat there's there's a lot a lot of threats on the board yeah

[01:03:25] I think my legitimate answer like I was out there and you know as with people who didn't know

[01:03:31] like anybody and they were like uh like uh so who are you like and I said my my serious answer is

[01:03:37] my hero is Jonathan Paner yeah sure yeah I mean and he's so great and he's just like an awesome

[01:03:43] person also um yeah that's a perfect example I mean yeah look how my favorite non-threatening

[01:03:51] player ever I'm gonna have to leave just sit on that because I know he meet need he switched on

[01:03:56] his try he can't trust him okay you know who's another non-threatening player I love I love

[01:04:01] me some Nora you know I love I love those kinds of characters you know yeah like also just

[01:04:07] people that are who they are that's what I like about Ben it's just like he's rock guy and that's

[01:04:11] what he's gonna do you know yep speaking of rock guy Heather wants to how slippery is that big boulder

[01:04:18] that's fine yeah I mean well we didn't have the element of being covered in mud so I don't think

[01:04:23] it was that slippery for us also we pushed the big boulder and then we I think scaled some other thing

[01:04:30] we had to climb it to get like a key or something but I don't remember I don't remember the slip

[01:04:34] I remember being so hot there was not a drop of moisture anywhere um in anywhere Rob okay all right

[01:04:46] on that note uh let's bring in uh with special guest standing by here okay uh man is

[01:04:52] celebrating a big day today uh it's the birthday of this man Taren Armstrong Taren how are you

[01:05:02] doing well uh in my birthday yes you're the plus one we brought you in okay I think about it

[01:05:09] I'll think about it okay uh you know Taren earlier tonight we were talking about this uh survivor

[01:05:13] vote as like this is like the as big brothery as uh this gets of like the people in the power

[01:05:19] alliance are all safe the people that aren't in the alliance that don't even know the alliance

[01:05:24] exists are all on the bottom like begging for their lives trying to say like hey go after the people

[01:05:29] in power and you're like nah yeah it's just picking off the like the people on the outs as a way to

[01:05:35] weaken can Venus get HOH next week do you think right seriously if this was big brother Venus will

[01:05:41] have would have won the HH at the end of this episode you'd be like whoa what's gonna happen now

[01:05:46] that's that's how big brother does it I don't know I watched one season of big brother in

[01:05:50] BB 25 and that's not normally what happened you know yeah you're just not watching the right seasons

[01:05:55] oh okay yeah okay well they've got the split house twist coming up uh next week so uh

[01:06:03] uh what what's what's that called the

[01:06:07] tire fest oh god

[01:06:10] so that's coming up a taren's coming up we don't say that name yeah taren's coming up with big brother

[01:06:16] canada uh right after this it's been it's eviction night it's if executive eviction night

[01:06:23] was a very special episode tonight Rob it was actually pretty good uh there was a

[01:06:28] there was a whole series of events that happened somebody went home well maybe we weren't expecting

[01:06:33] okay fun all right even you weren't expecting taren even nobody could have expected

[01:06:40] oh fun oh interesting okay um all right taren you have any other survivor thoughts from tonight

[01:06:47] um I you know this it well I uh i'm a Venus fan

[01:06:53] I I loved her calling out like every true fact like do you remember those three guys that

[01:06:58] went to the journey together like yes yes exactly she's saying smart stuff yeah

[01:07:05] saying smart stuff yeah she's not wrong where's the lie uh I just wish you wasn't saying it

[01:07:11] to everybody yeah like tell us tell maybe one person tell a friend

[01:07:16] Bailey of survivor right now if you're watching big brother canada you know they're

[01:07:20] referenced okay she didn't get any coaching to be fair a lot of the other players in this game

[01:07:25] I think it's coaching that's right yes yes all right uh taren okay uh we'll let you get set up

[01:07:31] okay everybody uh stand by for BB can coming up right after this okay thanks guys okay bye

[01:07:40] all right so uh let's just say a couple more questions because we got we we got so many here

[01:07:45] with Evie and you have so much to say okay all right um how about this this is a good question

[01:07:51] worth playing for wants to know Rob what do you think about the fact that everyone had to compete

[01:07:56] in a puzzle oh I loved it I know it says it's for Rob but I love it too they've done this a couple

[01:08:04] times this season they did that also with the ring toss make everybody do it I mean you have like

[01:08:10] you know um Nami that they had they had Hunter who was such a whiz at sort of like these

[01:08:16] puzzles and challenges from practicing them and yeah that's great for Hunter but also like I

[01:08:22] think that that's like a real equalizer to make everybody have to participate in some of these things

[01:08:28] yes I completely agree I do think this puzzle wasn't like so great for that because everyone could

[01:08:33] really see the pattern and like help which obviously is nice in some ways but every kind of if

[01:08:38] you're gonna try to like put everyone on the spot yeah there's like other puzzles that would be

[01:08:41] a little but I I really do agree make everyone do stuff except if it's me and I should only have to

[01:08:45] do the things that I'm gonna do yes yeah okay um let's see um how about um okay uh

[01:08:57] Leah wants to know why didn't Tim choose Ben for the journey six yeah that is such I mean we really

[01:09:03] have not see we've Tim has talked a lot but we haven't really gotten to understand his like

[01:09:09] lay of a land it seems like genuinely Maria is the person he wants to work with the most even though

[01:09:15] it did it didn't really seem like everybody else's perspective was that it was boys versus girls with

[01:09:20] Maria and Charlie in the center yeah you know we have not really gotten to see too much of it I know

[01:09:24] there was a secret scene at one time that Ben is not like a like does not talk a lot of game

[01:09:29] and they be Tim can sort of like idea okay Maria is the tough customer she's the person she had

[01:09:34] the extra vote she's the person that I really want to work with you know she's got the relationships

[01:09:40] were Ben he's great to be around but is he really thinking about the game a lot like he's fun

[01:09:46] but is he that guy well and I mean clearly he was that guy enough to Charlie that Charlie felt

[01:09:53] it was like really worth making sure he stayed so like but clear but maybe that's the relationship you know

[01:09:59] and so yeah I mean I think genuinely Maria just is his his number one he might maybe should tell her

[01:10:06] yeah yeah so that she could she could know that too yeah yeah okay how about Ethan says

[01:10:14] after last week's blindside I really thought that Charlie would get the boot tonight was I

[01:10:17] as delusional as my friends and I was okay well look find a new friend Ethan that wasn't that's not

[01:10:23] nice that your friend said you're Delulu yeah you can be wrong and not delusional okay sometimes

[01:10:29] but just wrong you know um but no I think honestly I I do think Charlie's in a really good spot

[01:10:35] in his group now the question will be how to see you affair but I do think that Charlie he just has

[01:10:41] a lot going for him where he is really athletic but I don't think comes off that way but he is like

[01:10:46] a big like runner and stuff like that and he's like super likable doesn't is like doesn't have

[01:10:52] the machismo thing so he's like very like accessible to people like I don't know I think I think

[01:10:58] Charlie should be the person that the anti-sega factors come for but I don't think they it will

[01:11:05] take a while to free that out I think yeah I think that that probably it would have been a better move

[01:11:10] for them to go after Charlie and I'm not really sure necessarily why they didn't I guess that

[01:11:15] that that what's interesting is that this um this uh journey six let's search over the name for it

[01:11:24] this journey six you know what what it is kind of caused is like the tribes are at war but they're

[01:11:29] also like engaged in diplomacy so I think that's what makes makes this scenario so interesting

[01:11:36] so it's like okay we want to take out one of your numbers but okay we're not going to take out a

[01:11:42] number that's really gonna hurt we're gonna we have to decide like we got we gotta get rid of all

[01:11:46] these people here but so like give us who do you volunteer as tribute that's the person and

[01:11:52] because they're like uh we don't want to tell you anything it's like well then now we have to

[01:11:56] take your person but like but we're not we're still not gonna take a one that hurts yep I mean yeah

[01:12:03] right because that's the thing it's it's both I think the plus one alliance is like having that

[01:12:06] I by the way I think plus one alliance is what I'm gonna call it yeah it's just funny yeah um

[01:12:11] but yeah I think like I think it's that and it's also it's new at our survivor no one's expecting

[01:12:15] this to be tribes forever you know like eventually people want to work together they don't want

[01:12:19] everyone to be super mad at them I mean look at how yasa totally screwed that up by both yeah the

[01:12:25] most expendable person went home but we voted for Dishan because we thought that we could try to get

[01:12:29] people to see hey he's a big threat people weren't ready for that and that was you know a big mistake

[01:12:34] so and really the person that it might be the biggest miss for to not have taken out Charlie might be

[01:12:40] Tim because you give up Charlie you still give up a Seagull number and you really lock Maria into this

[01:12:47] thing and I don't know if Tim the thing is that you know Maria and Charlie have done this hidden

[01:12:53] thing and maybe they've done it so well that Tim doesn't even know that Charlie is actually Maria's

[01:12:58] number one but I think that had it been Charlie I think it would have been a great night for Tim

[01:13:03] yes I mean well and that's the thing it seems like Tim and I guess Ben too are playing really slow

[01:13:09] and like maybe Ben's like barely playing Tim playing so slow didn't even tell Maria about the

[01:13:14] thing meanwhile the other like Charlie and Maria obviously a lot going on gem was running around

[01:13:19] there they got her out like it's like very much like I feel like there's a lot of like they're not

[01:13:25] playing the same piece of game at all you know okay all right and then let's leave it there let me tell

[01:13:32] everybody about what else is coming up here okay we've got coming up on a big Thursday kick things

[01:13:40] off with the exit interview and then we will have Stephen Fishback live at 130 then Friday I'll

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[01:13:55] don't miss YX lost as well okay so fun all right Rob you got so much going on always and it's

[01:14:03] just so fun and good like thank you Evie you know what was the the Jeff thing it was 500 episodes

[01:14:08] it was a thousand episodes that that was episode five thousand yes holy guy the hardest working guy

[01:14:15] you know on that microphone yeah I mean it's hard to call it like work but you know I am here it's

[01:14:23] 11 o'clock at night like I get it Stephen it's it's tiring you know um tomorrow uh the amazing race

[01:14:31] had its 90 minute episode tonight and Justin from the green team is going to join Jess and Mike

[01:14:36] to talk about this and just will have the exit interview with whoever got eliminated from the amazing

[01:14:40] race tonight okay deal or no deal island have you looked at this heavy okay I haven't yet because I'm

[01:14:47] like saving it I really want to watch it and also I love true blood and do you know the host guy oh Joe

[01:14:52] Manganello yeah he was he's a werewolf okay yeah that I used to watch that I didn't stick around for

[01:14:59] all of true blood later yes but I could yeah it's all it's an it's making sense now so yeah yeah

[01:15:06] okay yeah exactly all right so check that out a lot of fun with uh Boston Rob okay and then

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[01:15:59] that you wanted to bring up about tonight's survivor oh man I mean I would love to keep talking but

[01:16:05] I don't know how much to say you know but great great job you make it so effortless uh thank you

[01:16:12] so great to catch up with you Evie please come back this is fun you know thank you so much for

[01:16:18] inviting me okay it's it's a treat it's a treat always Evie uh what else is coming up for you

[01:16:24] I don't know you know that much but if you follow me on uh Instagram at Evie Jigota you'll see a

[01:16:33] mixture of survivor stuff and political stuff so that's what you're gonna get if you had there so

[01:16:38] be warned and um yeah that's that's what I got going on there's like trans stuff there's free

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[01:16:58] thank you so much uh this was incredible here tonight really appreciate everybody who joined us

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