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[00:01:22] We had a time, but we had a season, I'm so excited to have Jack from the Circle Season 2 and Wendyzy, the winner of Ghost Island, here sitting at Jack's table so that we can discuss all the things that went down at our party and we have to break down this episode so listen I could go on and on and on

[00:01:41] But let's get into this week's Survivor News Survivor News And we are back, your baby boys live loud and in color, covering Survivor Season 45, the season finale I am your host, Brice Izyah and I got my baby boys, it's four of us today

[00:02:28] We're so excited, we got to know them It's here and oh my god, I gotta say, but listen coming in from the Circle Season 2, the baby boy Jack Atkins was poppin'

[00:02:43] It's so weird to see, we did one of these before but it's like I don't even know where to look I'm so excited we're at La Casa de Jacka

[00:02:55] And man there's great finale, so excited to be in person with you guys, able to break it down, it's gonna be a lot of fun And hailing in from the island that is the first Merge of Boots, the winner of Ghost Island, Beach Cabana Royale

[00:03:11] We have Wendyzy, what's poppin' I'm here, this tree keeps on smacking me in the head but we out here, we're back on the island We're back on the island, it's good to be here at your next station Thank you for allowing us to come into your humble abode

[00:03:24] Of course So we are back alive, are you alive? Yeah, it was a crazy week, it definitely wore me out but last night I took it pretty easy Made sure I was prepared for this podcast

[00:03:39] But it was such a fun week with events Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night Just ending the season off right with some events Yeah, I loved it, I think the karaoke was poppin' You know Kendra had Sheep Sheep's house down

[00:03:56] I said, of course, you know, I had to show up my jump off I said Kendra, you know how to do that to me Then the finale, the finale was whoo But I think the biggest highlight for me of the whole week was

[00:04:10] First of all, shout out to my man, my man, my man, Austin But I got to spend some time with my parents and lost I got to meet Miss Eva, Miss Eva ran right up on me I was so scared, I saw her coming

[00:04:22] I literally ran the other direction And she chased me down and we got to embrace And you know, just being around my mother-in-law was so amazing Austin's little brother, what's his name? Ethan Ethan was ethian, okay

[00:04:38] He got up on that stage and I was like, oh, we got a whole little concert What was the highlight for you? Did you say Ethan was ethian? Ethian, okay, because Ethan was ethian Okay, oh my highlight, my goodness The karaoke's always fun

[00:04:55] It's a night where you can kind of let loose and everybody's there And I love that But then I was excited to see the episode After a great season, I was very excited Alright, then of course, so we are at Quirk and Bader

[00:05:11] Bader for the finale party, the episode starts I'm not going easy Where is Jack? Where is Jack? We find Jack and where is Jack? Under a speaker I mean, someone's got to take the episode I did a little bit different this time Looking back to that infamous 41 finale

[00:05:30] Where I was just standing up in the corner TV was right here, speak was here This was more of like the TV land Was a little weird at Quirk and Bader So I went to a little side with a couple friends

[00:05:44] I had a group, I had shout-out to my man Eric Abraham I had a shoebump going on the server So we had a crew, we were hanging I was not alone The speaker was up there, but the TV's over there And we were off to the side

[00:05:59] Because we didn't want to be in the middle of all the razzled ass We had to make sure with the finale this good That I was locked in and able to catch it I know you guys went out to these events

[00:06:10] To have to spend so much time hosting and entertaining So it's hard for you to watch the episode with me I love the Tuesday events too Especially because you don't have to worry about that You can just go party and have fun

[00:06:23] But this finale is something I was really excited for So I wanted to make sure I caught all of it And it was getting after that After that we really shook things up And we let go Also it's like a huge shout-out again to the Baby Boy

[00:06:38] I think that you done an amazing job this season On Survivor News And as I was talking to some of the cast As we got to talk to them They said Jack Acton's is an honorary season 45 castaway So we get to see here and talk about

[00:06:53] The season with an honorary castaway No, I appreciate all the love from the 45ers It's unlike any other season before How much I've connected with a lot of them But I don't want to claim the honorary 45 I need an actual setback Oh, okay You heard it

[00:07:14] All the time we saw the 45 cast It really was different than any other season I felt like I appreciate them so much But that experience is that experience There's no honorary cast on the island You gotta be out there and get it

[00:07:27] So hopefully we can make that happen Before we get to that episode Another one of my most memorable moments Again shout-outs to everyone that came We appreciate you so much But for me, well obviously it's gonna be Austin But I think at karaoke

[00:07:40] And of course, you know, I know my man Austin We've seen each other before But I think seeing him this time We got to talk and like, you know Seeing the tears in his eyes as we were talking And just saying that, you know

[00:07:52] This experience, there's ebbs and flows And you know sometimes when people were hating on him Which... who hating on my man But he was just saying that How he took a break from social media But when he came back The love that the purple pants posse

[00:08:06] And that survivor dude show him Really kind of like, made him realize that Like you know what? I don't care what none of these haters are saying So just having that moment with Austin Being embraced in his soft but hard hands His big but toned muscles

[00:08:21] His long but short hair His white but curly teeth His Christmas but holiday shirt Okay His brown but hazelnut eyes You're gonna say this shit Wait but curly teeth His warm but hot He breaks, okay? I'll just say it I just was in heaven

[00:08:47] Just to be around my Austin So shout out to my baby boy Austin Alright, well let's get into it Because we got a lot to cover here Live in person with Sub-Ivanus It's the Jack Shack We trying to take you back It's the Jack Shack

[00:09:02] We gonna take you back He got a song on his sleeve It's a buff, not a hook You wanna see my buff? Yeah, huh? I wanna see my buff Yeah You wanna see my buff? Buff, buff, buff, buff, buff Yeah Alright, okay That's the Jack intro

[00:09:22] Yeah, a lot to unpack I can't go without that Yeah, a lot to unpack Yeah, I'm just looking at my mouth I don't know if I'm like So, Drew just gets voted out And something that really It's mentioned and we forget about it

[00:09:40] Is that there's this new trend That after this final 6-vote They go to a new beach And I just start over I don't really feel like that was relevant Throughout the episode at all after that But I just wanna quickly touch on that

[00:09:52] Like what do you guys think about this concept Of having to go to a new beach And restart going on the finale? I always feel like Back in the day, they used to do the Omaj when it was like the final 3 or 4

[00:10:03] When you would walk around the beaches And throw their underwear into fire And be like, that was Wendy's Dirty underwear, we remember that So I feel like this Because of the days are shorter I feel like Now I don't know what Throwing Wendy's into fire That's the 2v5

[00:10:20] But I feel like It kinda is like Just the This the end And so it just kinda For me, it didn't really have much to play on the episode However, on the episode that Drew went home I felt like it left us with a

[00:10:32] Oh, oh, a new beach Like you know, a cliffhanger Yeah, it left us with that I think it's a signal like Alright, now it's time to spring to the end This is like Now is the time We're putting you somewhere else Locking Something things could happen out here

[00:10:49] I don't know I mean, it seemed like it didn't have Much significance, that's what you're saying But I guess, yeah I don't know, a new era Yeah, I I guess it doesn't have a huge impact for me But I guess I don't really like it

[00:11:02] Just in the sense that Going into this final 5 You really gotta be locked in And so why Instead of being Wanna make these big plans at the end of the game Do they have to like Go build a new shelter I think it feels very

[00:11:15] I also feel like Well if you wanna be locked in Then locked in from ground zero Starting from the bottom Now we're here And if you know Jeff Always says you gotta dig deep So you think you might have stuff Situated I really feel like it's the shakeup

[00:11:27] So I feel like it's the shakeup That if you feel like You haven't done anything big yet Or haven't made the conversation That you need to Starting over at this new beach Could be the opportunity for you To kind of like wrap your game up Interesting, okay

[00:11:41] Well I guess we didn't Agree to disagree on that But that's why I wanted to ask Because I'm like It was mentioned and then For all intents and purposes It's almost like If they hadn't mentioned it I wouldn't really know That it would be right

[00:11:55] But I guess it could affect the mindset Of the players in different ways So but at this new beach Getting back from Travel Council Austin did have a conversation Dee had just blindsided Austin But Austin's pretty quick to forgive Dee and be willing to move forward Yeah Bryce

[00:12:16] Cause Mr. Austin has a big Butt large Okay My man was raised by Miss Eva And she told him to forgive But I also realized it's like It is the better game move For Austin to forgive her really quick Because if he's going to take a shot

[00:12:33] At her at the end Why be like I ain't messing with you So I mean again My man made a good move But I mean I wouldn't have forgiven her I would have came back And I wouldn't have said anything Oh

[00:12:44] So you would have made a bad game I mean I wouldn't have been this far Of the game So I mean I would have been at Ponderosa And then I would have watched the emergency But they don't even have any more So I'd go home

[00:13:00] You and me with Miss Bar No I think that's fair I think You have to forgive her At least on paper The real question is Whether that Is he going to follow through with that Which we see that He remains pretty loyal to Dee Which

[00:13:15] I guess we'll talk a little bit As the episode progresses Whether that's a mistake or not I think it's good to get back on the same page with her At least On paper Right And strictly On paper Yeah And then we get this And via showman On paper

[00:13:35] But also via showman Yeah But I mean I see no photos of Austin Holding Dee's leg up in the air On Instagram What Just a second Oh my goodness Anyway On paper So the next day We're on the same beach I can't And they get one of those

[00:13:55] At-Camp challenges Where there's three different stations With all these different things You gotta count I believe it's crabs, bamboo And Coconuts I think it's coconuts Yeah And they gotta run out It seems like they're pretty far apart So you gotta run out Count all these items

[00:14:14] And then lock in an answer And a combination lock To one and advantage In the next meeting When I saw the actors Got thinking like How Bruce would have prepared For if you're ready to go Run Bro Here's his walk-through Here's what we gotta do

[00:14:32] Arm lefties, young kids Get the lead Yeah And then Also if you mess up You have to go all the way back out to At least one of the stations If not more Which is obviously a far run So you can't really be doing Like that

[00:14:47] Just go and gas 15, 16 And Jake devises this strategy Where he's associated With the numbers with The winners of those seasons To be fair I don't know if it's that hard To remember three numbers But what I will say is You might as well associate it with

[00:15:11] It's easier to remember a name So you might as well Associate it with that And then This is the only thing To do that Because he was like Something today The bamboo is this Which is Denise And Denise is strong like bamboo Or something

[00:15:27] Now you have to associate The winner with whatever that item was And I was like Oh, is Tony a crab Or is Tony a coconut If you're just thinking about The names It might actually be a little harder It's like an extra step If you guys may

[00:15:44] But hey, it worked for him Right That's all they needed to work It did provide a pretty fun Just montage moment of him Like bringing back those winners Who was it? Denise Gabbler And who was the last one? JT Was it JT? Maybe Who was season 40? Tony

[00:16:08] Oh, what's the title? It was Gabbler, Denise And I think it was JT Not sure Well, regardless But whatever the strategy was It worked out for him He's gonna be one of an advantage In the next community challenge Was this the first time That Jake won something?

[00:16:26] It might be So maybe the new beach Is getting a good, like you know Rapture engine Right, right And then we get right into The community challenge Which is sort of a big Offshoot course You gotta get sandbags You gotta shoot sandbags in To unlock some puzzle pieces

[00:16:46] Or keys or whatever Then you gotta climb up a tower It's the Michelle Fitzgerald challenge Alcoholic where it's three different tiers And you gotta like put all the pillars together To be equalized, stack or ring Do the next one Jake is an advantage

[00:17:01] Where two of his three hoops Are already done So we're gonna see it won That allows him out to get out To a pretty good lead But then he gets up And he forgets keys By the sandbags He's gotta go back down But also it seems like

[00:17:18] The puzzle is the great equalizer And that's how it often is Surprise, surprise I'm sure it must have been Like at least probably A 10 minute, 15 minute type of puzzle What's the strategy to it? Like I'm assuming that you have Thought about that process of it A little bit

[00:17:35] I think You have to It's the base If you got an eye feel Like you have to figure out If the pieces ain't locking in How they, you know I think kind of what you have to do is Figure out I think the most important thing

[00:17:50] Is to understand what the average height Of each pillar is Okay And so what does that mean Of each pillar? Yeah exactly Maybe taking like Maybe you build a couple And try to get them like close And then you're like Okay well this was a little thought

[00:18:03] If this one's here Maybe it's like right in the middle And you have to find that average Cause once you know how tall The actual It's how tall it's Ashes supposed to be It makes a lot easier To do the other ones And compare them

[00:18:15] Might you take all the tall ones And put them down first And then try to worry about The smaller ones I think that also makes A lot of sense Although I know some of them are Like two tall pieces And some of them are like three

[00:18:28] So it's something It kind of seems like Just a trial and everything Like I don't think it was We're going to be able to be like Oh boom Like I know all of it right away So it's important to know But when you answer that

[00:18:38] That like I'm not trying to Get it right away I need to like get my Figuring out my bearings first Right And I think What I would also be curious about Is are those pillars on the second tier The same height as those ones On the first tier

[00:18:52] Cause then once you know The height of the first tier You're going to be able To compare them next to each other But maybe they're You know I honestly would hope They're a little bit different Cause I think that would make The challenge a little bit harder

[00:19:04] But yeah So Jake gets that early lead But forgets his keys Which allows Austin to get out ahead But because it's a long challenge Everyone kind of catches up And gets in the mix a little bit But it really is an Austin versus Jake battle

[00:19:17] I think they might be the only ones That he can go to like The second tier let alone the third And Austin takes that time That he gained when Jake Went how to go retrieve the keys To carve out a lead And he was able to

[00:19:29] Secure win at the final five Which price It seems like Bryce was excited about that He wasn't fighting He wasn't playing this challenge For your heart I mean cause he already had it Okay He got another thing added To that resume That I'm like oh okay

[00:19:48] Austin's really in the kitchen cooking And so at this point I was again a huge contoured fan I'm like a tour could do something big But I also feel like My blinders at that moment Were like not even Cause I had so much left for Austin

[00:20:03] But then as I'm seeing these things unfold I'm like Is my man about to be a million dollar winner? Like at this point in the night Woo And you know he's like a good firebreaker too Right When he wins this challenge It's like okay he's

[00:20:21] In the mix of the final Yeah Make something happen And I think the game he's played To this point You know the last couple of tribals Were a little bit Not that it go perfectly But before that I think he played A very underrated slept on game

[00:20:38] And so it's that type of game Where if you can get to the final three And explain all those moves that he made Right Then you know he has a shot And not in the dark Exactly A shot at the million But along with the immunity

[00:20:52] When he also wins the reward Which is like a steak dinner And he decides to bring the Jake Which I think was a good thing I think it was a good move A you know Jake battled super hard In this challenge But also I think people

[00:21:04] May be expecting him to take D But I think you got a little sick Yeah I think you kind of got to be like You know let me show that I'm not in her pocket Like right Let me go That was good Those were more

[00:21:17] And it's like if you take her If you took her to that When she just took your man out Like I just see her The optics Yeah Exactly it's not the best optics And then But also he just took her to her and D To like you know

[00:21:32] I feel like sharing the world Yeah And he probably was Yeah And then you know at this reward Jake tells him that he has In the immunity He actually takes that on show zone And At that point it makes I feel like that makes some Decision even better

[00:21:48] Because it's like Well if he's not going home Then the three girls back in Can't it's gotta be one of them So it's not like they can Really perform an alliance against us So Yeah so Jake shares the idol with Austin And they come up with this plan

[00:22:03] To target I believe Julie Although I don't really know if they Came up with much about playing like In that moment So Austin then That's back to camp shares This image of D Which leads them to To put the target on Kentura Because they're assuming you know

[00:22:19] Jake is gonna Play as idol for himself For me though That was like the straw That broke the camel's back In my mind Because at that moment When he went back and shared that with D I felt like He's being loyal to her to the end Right?

[00:22:33] Like I was like In my mind I was like He's not gonna take a shot at her Cause I feel like That's the you know Energy that I would need it for him To maybe potentially Take that back to Mama Tina Take that back to Katora

[00:22:45] Although it could potentially get back To D I would just have wanted I was hoping for To see him like Line it up and wanting this To take a shot at her That's definitely true I don't think it I didn't think a ton about that In a moment

[00:22:59] But once you You know you and Jake are good Like You could really take a shot at her Right now Balls to the wall at this point And I'm the wall Whoa I mean I see he's so close to D It's kind of obviously

[00:23:13] Whether they're considering building her out But Maybe you should Right And then So they put the target on Kentura Jake also decides to share the information As I know with Katora And They hatched this She Haps she pushes D's name Which Jake is like

[00:23:37] Pretty often he's on board for it And Katora like makes Jake swear on his nana And And in that moment I was like Is this the rise of Katora? Now I was running up and down The steps at Corkin Batter Because After Austin and Jake just took this

[00:24:05] I was like oh okay They got it Then with Katora Got this plan I was running downstairs Cause I was like Katora's about like Because Think about it If Katora Would have executed that Is that not a cute Is that not a million dollar move? I think

[00:24:24] Here you go Why? Okay It's a couple things I don't think I think if she had executed it It could have been But also I think Jake would deserve a ton of credit As well But the fact that you're going to say Oh here you go

[00:24:40] Obviously here I go Cause she doesn't do it And I hate to say I feel extremely vindicated About my taste earlier in the season About Katora Not being a very strong player And we'll go Like again On a personal level Love her story Get him Katora

[00:24:56] In the last few weeks Watching her I was like damn She might be able to turn this around Like she's starting to get A little bit of traction And This is her moment It's like Three seconds left on the clock Okay Get the ball in Katora's hands She's

[00:25:12] Doing a fast break Down the court Ready to shoot a layup And she stops And she throws the ball out of bounds And it's like But isn't it sometimes But when you playing in them basketball games Right sometimes Don't people foul out Don't they be like

[00:25:26] We need you to get a foul Yes Okay So where exactly are we at? So but What I'm also saying is that Like so We're not in Katora's head In that moment So we don't know what it is But clearly she pulled A fast move on Jake Right

[00:25:40] So clearly there must have been She's working with Some other people that She I Bryce I hate to I don't think I think this is like An indefensible move Especially given the fact That after this In the episode Katora admits that she messed up

[00:25:56] And admits that she regrets Not voting for Dee And that's why I can't be Too hard on her after the fact Because she already Knows there's a bad move Like how can I try To rub that in But it was genuinely Like such a terrible move Not only

[00:26:10] The Dee vote Or I'm gonna say The Julie vote is Defendable Okay You're gonna hash this plane yourself Go to pull Jake in Make him swear on his grandma That he's down to do it It becomes to me very obvious That of course we know watching the episode

[00:26:26] Like that he's gonna do it Because in confessionals He's talking about it But if he's sitting there On the beach looking me in the eyes And I swear on my man That I'm gonna vote for Dee Which is also Like strategically

[00:26:37] A move that makes a lot of sense I mean it does So I'm not gonna be questioning I'm gonna be like Okay he's voting for Like why would I not go with that Especially like Again if you want to make an argument Maybe Julie's a bigger threat

[00:26:51] Whatever maybe I could do it on fire Whatever But Bryce if I set the whole thing Coming up with a plan Like Bryce I need you in this plan Like swear on when Deezy That you're gonna do it And you swear on when Deezy

[00:27:03] And I go and I vote for someone else You're gonna be like Why did you just What was all the rah rah about So no I get it I haven't listened to her price interview yet But I am curious to know Like what her rationale was

[00:27:14] In that moment to then not follow through Because again I feel like That was a million dollar mistake On Couture's end Yeah well I think there were I haven't heard the press interviews either But I would wrap I feel like from watching them So she admitted that

[00:27:28] She got a little nervous A little bit scared And put her trust in Jake And she sort of fell back Into the pattern of like going to Dee Like going to Dee Like going to Dee For like safety And that's a lot of credit to Dee Right

[00:27:42] But she like I said Throughout the whole game She always goes to Dee with her information She always like this and that And she feels safe with Dee Again huge credit to Dee But it's like the final five This last thing you can vote someone else

[00:27:53] I mean I'm a I'm a Apologize to the notebook I agree with that thing Yeah so Yeah I just have to push back Because we were like What like It could have been her million What like it could have Could have showed what it like

[00:28:08] Well I have to say Now is this Could this become survivor's strategy Where in order to get someone to vote Something you go that passionate In order to direct someone in a particular direction But don't have to swear on your name Like and then

[00:28:26] Now you can use this person I'm not saying that happened People do that all the time They lie and stuff all the time Look at Jake I'm not saying lie and stuff I think it's yeah I'm saying pull someone in And make them swear on something

[00:28:38] I think that Technically could be weaponized I don't Like I said I don't think That's what the case was in this instance No it wasn't I think it could be weaponized In a good strategic sense But the problem I have with that Is that if someone like did

[00:28:55] Like I respect cutthroat game play If I was a player I would respect cutthroat game play But if someone pulled me in And then forced me to swear on someone And then they bailed I would just really leave a bad taste in my mouth

[00:29:06] As it does here with Jake So I don't think I would ever Really do something like that Because I think it's a terrible bad trait management There's certain lines that survive That I feel like people don't want to Like if you want to lie to your own family

[00:29:23] It's like some people might respect that Some people might not But there's certain lines where it's like I feel like that would just be A little too much And I think you could lose the respect Of a lot of people But this is... Geese were on your mama

[00:29:39] I don't mind that I don't mind the swear on whoever But I wouldn't want if someone came to me With a plan of like seeming to be desperate And then was like Alright if you're in on this You have to swear and I swear

[00:29:52] And then down the line they're like Oh I just made Jack swear on his father Because I needed him for the vote I'd be like that is a little And then they can't even do the vote That's just a little bit I mean in real life

[00:30:04] I wouldn't mess with it But I also feel like All is rare and survivor Like I feel like you can't like So again I'm not arguing that point But I also feel like You can't take a lie Or make me stupid I just feel like that's Tony Blakas

[00:30:18] Right like that's That's survivor 101 Johnny Fairplay Like... But Johnny Fairplay is not really the type to Go on and when I say You can put him in a lie I don't think Johnny is winning Survivor at a high frequency With the way that he plays

[00:30:33] It would be great television I'm just saying like I think of course strategically It would be a lot of fun to see that But I just think And on a personal level When I'm in there and someone does that to me I'd be like

[00:30:45] That just seems a little gross Like it's not possible to... Not only would Mike I not work with you again If I'm on the jury You might not be my vote Well I might not rock with you in real life Exactly Alright So All's made a vote

[00:31:00] Ends of being Juli Vosford Sorry, he votes for Kutura Jake plays Aydall Kutura as well Oh yeah Yo Now that He is smooth dude, yo Yeah, it was a great move I'm playing for Kutura I'm like alright Yeah Aydall Aydall For me But that's what I love about

[00:31:24] Jake is He knows his position And he's willing to like Take the shot Right It's higher risk But it's like If you don't think you're in a spot To win the game Got nothing to lose Got nothing to lose You go Text is holding right

[00:31:37] And Jake is kind of doing The opposite of what Kutura is doing Where I don't think she understands Her position in the game And she plays it safe And it's like You might make it Once and for there But your Chances of winning Are Yeah Nice and none

[00:31:51] At least from how that It presents it I don't know exactly How she shook it out If she made it to the final Right So D votes Kutura That vote is nullified And then we get But also like What's the irony Like Because we're Feeling

[00:32:08] I mean like that Like Yeah D cut broke And then we get A vote for D A vote for Julie A vote for Jake And then we get This is the 1-1-1 And then the last vote Is for Julie And so Austin and Kutura Voted for Julie

[00:32:24] And Austin had this whole Dilemma as well Of like Do I vote for Kutura With my allies Or Is it actually Just better for me Of Julie goes And I think he made the right Conclusion here of Taking out Julie Who as we've been told

[00:32:42] Is a threat to win And so maybe he's Austin Six with D here Maybe he's mine So that's like Hey maybe you have four I could take her out And fire I don't ever like those Game clans or thoughts That Making that big move at four

[00:32:59] Make your move when you can make your move Make your move When you can make your move Do your dance Or you can do your dance Shake your Especially I mean especially Given the fact that like D has also been A really good one of the challenges

[00:33:13] It's like staying even if you think D And Julie are the same level Of threats Yeah D Like If he takes out D I mean I like Austin to win Pretty much any challenge against Katorra, Jake and Julie And that's no shade to like

[00:33:27] The other three I think Austin has been really good In the challenges He's like good at puzzles You get the physical stuff Yeah I mean all the physical stuff Okay okay My body's So yeah Julie goes home On My body's Your body I don't know, Sierra Bagi

[00:33:48] My body's Your body It's called Body Party Yeah But you're doing it I mean My body's Your body You're making a new song right now I can't even support it It's like Poe You need to speak to Poe If he does It's a lot harder A lot harder

[00:34:10] Let's do it Austin Right at My body My circles Waiting Coming Jump on me Hold it Let's do it That's the remix Right at My body Wabo de mi wabo de mi wabo de mi wabo Wabo de mi wabo baby wabo baby Get it there Yeah yeah yeah

[00:34:37] Yeah yeah Get it there Yeah yeah To the new girls Bag it up Ain't bag it up Wabo de mi wabo de mi wabo Wabo de mi wabo Wabo baby wabo baby Get it there Yeah yeah Get it there Yeah yeah Get it there Get it up

[00:35:01] Alright sorry Bag it up Yeah Okay y'all see Jack got a little softened Okay We just had to be here for it Yeah It doesn't translate over to you Now he wants to listen to songs Also it was just Jack Lately ignoring my body party

[00:35:16] But because we're Jack It's over Okay we're going yeah Those are a lot of things to do in person You Jack can just mute my life I didn't have any

[00:36:19] So we get back to Cannes after Julie goes home And props to Julie playing the hollow again Yeah Shout out to mama Tina that is Julie Wonder vibes It was it was interesting with her Cause it's like on paper And according to the other players

[00:36:37] She was a big threat to win And she was like I don't know what to do But I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know if it's because of other players She was a big threat to win

[00:36:50] But it definitely felt like she's going to win I don't know How the added portray Gotta be that And I wonder if they would do that Because I mean now we know who the winner is right And so But yeah I'm not surprising again

[00:37:02] I feel like from episode two or three I had said like Mama Julie that has seen her Fight in the game Her like Talking of Saying the things that she wanted to do But be willing to go The other way I felt like it was

[00:37:16] Such a big thing of her, but I also felt like she had an opinion. It wasn't like she was going with things and a lot of people brought stuff to her. So again, shout out to Mama's who Mama Julie that is Tina.

[00:37:27] We love you. Yeah. But Jake kind of airs out. It's her. Yeah. He doesn't pull the punches. He says like she made me swear. I'm like to go vote for you. These are like, I don't know what I completely understand his frustration

[00:37:41] because the whole story with Jake, like in Caleb actually says this when, you know, when they're the jury, when they're eating their breakfast at the final three and like the jury kind of pops in and gives their thoughts.

[00:37:54] Caleb says something along the lines of like Jake's game instincts have been very underrated. I feel like Jake has good game awareness. Like we said, he knows his position. He's willing to take moves. He generally generally understands sort of the social dynamic of the tribe somewhat.

[00:38:13] But it's sort of like he has a good move in mind and then it doesn't work because of the bad moves by other players. Like I think Katera absolutely should have gone with that plan. And then that's a huge boost on both Jake and Katera's resume.

[00:38:32] So it's kind of like, I understand Jake's frustration because it's like, I'm coming up. He's cooking up good moves. Right. It's just like... But I mean, again, it also goes, and my opinion goes back to relationship building.

[00:38:42] Right? Katera doesn't have the trust with Jake because it's from the beginning, right? With like the whole Bruce thing and that like, so I get it. So I guess my question to you two is, it's like, I know relationships are so important to build in Survivor, but

[00:38:58] is it also important for you to on the opposite end of it? Like if you want to trust, you have to like go all in with the trust. Right? So it's not so much of like, oh, you need to like build good relationships in the beginning,

[00:39:12] but on the other half of it, like I was saying with the new islands, right? New island, new blood for someone like a couture, right? Like let your guard down. Like if you want to play, play. Do you get what I'm saying though?

[00:39:25] Like kind of being open to allowing your guard down. Because I feel like I would have done something similar as couture, right? Where I don't think about I would have ever been able to fully put my trust in Jake, right?

[00:39:38] I think I would have backed out as well. Sometimes it's like you don't know the power that you had in front of you and you get scared. Yeah. And but like you said, it all boils down to relationship building.

[00:39:48] Like Jake's had a lot of the moves been in the right place, but ultimately he didn't have the the numbers to execute those ideas because his social game wasn't as strong as like a D or a Julie or Austin.

[00:40:02] Granted they had a form that aligns from like day one, pretty much on Reba. But obviously it's yeah, I get why Jake's frustrated. But there is something to the Jake archetype, right? That I feel like we don't see a lot, which is like know your position, right?

[00:40:19] Like as I feel like I feel like we need somebody to do a study on a Jake in the sense of like knowing your position, knowing where you're at and trying to make those moves.

[00:40:28] I feel like I would love to see new survivor players like on 46 or 48 and 49, like adapting to this method of Jake because outside of Jake, who else has been pulling out these like hat tricks? Okay. And I'm not going to hockey reference. But you know what I'm saying?

[00:40:47] Like I just I appreciate his creativeness, but also I feel like that's a Boston thing. Like I feel like Boston's hustlers like we moving and we shaking it and Boston is kind of like the sister city to Philly. So I understand that hustler mentality,

[00:41:00] getting where you get it, fitting where you fit it, making move how you move, flip it, turn it, jump it, hop it, get what you want because I never want to stop it. Like what he just said. Okay. Am I right? Yeah. Yeah. So it's like he's fresh.

[00:41:18] It's it's it's I get the frustration. And yeah, but it's also to your points. Like we saw as of a few episodes ago, Katerina Jake came together and say like, are we in this together? And they're like, yeah, that's like they've been working together.

[00:41:32] But I just feel like sometimes again, from my perspective, sometimes it's like it's hard to let go of things. And just from my opinion, so it's like I could say I let it go. But in the back of my mind is like, I'm not really trust you.

[00:41:43] You really want to save me a seat? You really want to know what you're like? And I think it's yeah, it's less I think it's less about Jake and more just about the fact that it seems like D has really roped in Katerina like super solid.

[00:41:56] And so it was like, how do you know how's he really going to go home? When she's got awesome, she's got Julie right. So they're like, she's three or four really going to write her name down. We only five people we hate. She's so pretty.

[00:42:07] She's like a model. She's so protected. Super. Yeah. I'm going to do and I'm not giving you the trust job. Do we? And then no, but that makes me wonder it's like, is it if Jake wants to see out? Is it smart?

[00:42:24] And because I thought sharing the idol was kind of smart because that makes people assume that you're gonna play it for yourself and it allows you to play for Katerina. But if he doesn't tell anyone, maybe he gets all the votes and he can just write D.

[00:42:39] But here's another thing, right? And maybe call it what you want. Maybe this is the oversight on Jake. Maybe you should have shared the idol with Katerina. Maybe that would have been the trust level because I feel like if you would have shared

[00:42:53] that with her, maybe that could have been the trust level that she would have needed and then move on. But again, could have would have showed a lot to me. Yeah. I wonder about that too, because I get where Jake's coming from where we know

[00:43:06] Katerina loves to share information. If he says, hey, I'm gonna play my idol on you, whatever. And she goes and like, tell someone else. She would tell someone. Like if flip on a Jake. She would. That's true. Or even if she doesn't tell someone. Yeah, yeah.

[00:43:18] It's like if you tell her and like you commit to that, then you're putting the info in her core and like she can make a move against you, which when it makes sense, but like she might do it. Not too much. Yeah. And I agree with Jake.

[00:43:36] You want to be your move and if I'm playing my idol for you, I don't owe you. I'm telling you. I mean, I get it, but I'm just saying like no, I've gotten a little more. Right. Yeah. I wonder what would happen.

[00:43:49] It could have been maybe that locks her in, but it could have been she goes and tells D like, hey, do you say he's going to play the idol for me? Like, yeah. Oh, I'm out. Yeah. And then it's like that.

[00:43:58] Then he would just also look like it would make him like foolish, too. Which I don't even think it would be it wasn't what even be foolish by him, but it was. It's like, we kind of got a Cessaris to we're making a big move.

[00:44:10] It's like if this goes real bad, no, I look just generally. But then yeah, we get right into another immediate challenge, the final four immediate challenge is a classic. We got the, you know, using a long prong. Oh, okay. No. Eyes continue. Calm your sorry.

[00:44:34] Bryce and the law. Where does the long prong go? No, it gets used to staff this. He said disc, Bryce. He said disc. Bryce, control yourself right now. Bryce, you said disc. Oh, oh, oh, oh, and somebody got a long prong. Oh, shut up, Bryce.

[00:45:00] That can set this. Bryce, let me know. Continue Jack. Yeah. And so what? How there's two things in the sense that's in. Okay. The long word of prong. Okay. The staff or the disc. So Jake and indeed are sort of the leading this challenge. Okay.

[00:45:27] And how long was these prong? Long enough. And D actually doesn't drop a single time, but Jake I think for a minute is in the lead. He's working a little bit faster and he ends up knocking his whole tower over with only like

[00:45:46] a couple discs left and he gets so frustrated that he basically just started stopping on like he does not give a shit. And Jeff Warren's in like if you break it, the challenge you're out. And he kept going.

[00:46:01] So he's just so heated out himself that he's like, and then he breaks it and just like, I think you're out. He's like, you serious? Well, I'm going to warn you about three times. So wait, can I just note I listened to his exit press. Okay.

[00:46:17] And Jake basically said, I thought I thought it was on bungees. Like I thought and he's like the quickest way to get out there is if it bungees down and you walk on it. Oh yeah. So if he's thinking that or this could be some revisionist history.

[00:46:31] But that's what he said. But also in hearing what he has said, you know, Jeff has said if it helps you in the if it feels like it makes it easier, then you're not allowed to do it. Or maybe not supposed to do it.

[00:46:45] Not while I'm just here. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what I mean. But I mean, I there was something to me that resonated with Jake because sometimes when my temper gets mad, like sometimes it's although it very rarely ever comes out.

[00:46:58] But when I get upset, you get upset once a week at me. No, that's a lie. Bryce, you got upset twice this weekend. But we have no major fight. But anyway, it is like you would hope in that moment that's that big, especially where it's

[00:47:13] like D could definitely drop in. But I feel like that makes it even more worse because that big. I agree. Like I would say I would say you would hope that you could keep the composure.

[00:47:24] But I understand it because it's like you might be in a basketball game where you might be playing like poker and something doesn't go your way. And you just, you know, you're not thinking with a clear head. But you're like, I'm, I feel like I'm just going for.

[00:47:39] No, no, no one to show. Yeah. You might be pissed off and then you might be a half court to pull up for three years. Like it's not the right play. But you're like whatever I'm shooting, I'm just shooting. Put the ball into the fans.

[00:47:53] So D doesn't drop sooner time. Secures his fun from victory. And at that moment it's like, all right, this is this is D's game to lose. But we still got to go through the, you know, the semantics of, you know, the firing challenge.

[00:48:12] So we get back to camp and that's sort of the main focus. There's not, you know, I missed the final four vote because I would rather see some strategy than people being like, oh, I want to make fire or like it just feels kind

[00:48:24] of very simplistic compared to. I've seen a lot of people on the reddit and the Twitter saying that essentially like when the fire make challenge was new as of season 35 and they feel like they ready for something new to come. I heard that on something.

[00:48:42] Where your thoughts on that, Jack? Cause I know you get deep. In terms of what you're saying, like switch it up again. Because it's so predictable now everyone knows that fire and so they're strategizing towards whatever. Now it's like, oh next season what fire making?

[00:48:55] Like that's a new way to twist it up by not having it. Now they should have a rice off. Yeah, I don't mind if they, the thing that really bothered me in 35 about the fire making challenge was that there was no warning to, there's no warnings

[00:49:11] to the players and it's a huge change like the game mechanics. But I love that though. I hate that because. I like the optics of it. It looked like they manufactured this thing. Well, I mean there's a lot of things that could be, I feel like, well.

[00:49:28] But I think going to Survivor you know there's sort of a set, some set rules. No, I like a good twist but the final four that's so different. Like you could be going there and be like, all right, well if they don't win

[00:49:43] this challenge we can vote about all of a sudden the line you've now don't care you go any way. I love that though as somebody that again as a third boot out that like I feel like I love though because again Survivor is strategy.

[00:49:54] It's but it's also a chance of luck that I feel like people don't want to talk about how much of a luck draw Survivor is. They always say it's like strategy you compare but there are some things in

[00:50:05] Survivor you just can't prepare for and sometimes the luck of the draw is for you and sometimes it's against you that's the name of the game. Yeah, well like I saw that. I mean this kind of brings me back to like almost like that hour of last twist.

[00:50:17] I think we had a similar debate. I like that hour of last twist. It's gonna be it's gonna be a agree to disagree. Right but I just think as the game evolves like you being a super fan of knowing every way in which to be like.

[00:50:32] But if that's so more so like a twist I don't mind but that's more so like a core structural. That's why the only season I really didn't like was 35 because it's just out of

[00:50:41] nowhere so I think I hope if they get rid of it which I hope they do. I think it should be you know day one on the boat just like and by the way no more firing challenge and then you could you be mentally prepared.

[00:50:55] Again like in that same conversation of you saying like how you feel like you want to see more people that what were you saying about more a different kind of diversity a different type of diversity right and so but you want to see some people

[00:51:08] that don't even play the game so some people that don't even watch the show that might be out there like some of the stuff that comes up it's all new to them I feel like that's the great equalizer.

[00:51:17] I just feel like again Survivor people don't want to say bug it's part of Survivor is luck and sometimes the luck falls on your side and sometimes it doesn't it has nothing to do with it.

[00:51:27] I agree with luck but I think there's certain elements of a game that it's the structure that it's like if I pull up to you know a baseball game okay there's elements of luck in a baseball game maybe someone hits a line drive

[00:51:40] to the center fielder sometimes maybe they don't and it lands for double but if I'm pulled to a baseball game and then the night in there like let's bring the soccer ball

[00:51:50] but this is a game though this is a reality tv show yeah it's not law and order it's not like baseball but but I'm just every game needs rules and I think if you're changing you're

[00:52:12] watch up but wait a minute I'm basketball the tournament they have tournaments right yeah season 20 didn't they change the tournaments yeah make it more and everybody knew about the change before the season before the seasons you did just because you didn't have attention

[00:52:31] yeah it's not it's like you don't want to end up in the the playoffs and all of a sudden it's like and you're in the fourth quarter the first game is like oh this is no longer

[00:52:40] versus seven it's just one game you'd be like what how are we supposed to know that but that we're talking professional athletes as opposed to like people that are signing up to play

[00:52:49] games I think I'm sure I think but I think I rule like there's certain parts of the game in survival for the 34 seasons you're at the final four your vote was someone out and so it's be like

[00:53:00] oh it's been 17 years but FYI we're switching out of uh an hour before I'd be like we can't just get like a heads up and I think that also maybe it didn't happen in that season but I think it

[00:53:13] also situations like that could really lead to some properties of the edge of extinction is another like you know like yeah and everyone knew about it but but they didn't know that they were

[00:53:24] going to actually uh have it the people that were in the game didn't know or what's the one redemption island the people in the game didn't know that the people had an opportunity to potentially come

[00:53:33] back yeah but that doesn't happen and that definitely affects the game because then it's like I might not have voted you out if I knew that you had an opportunity to come back in

[00:53:42] that's not yeah but that's not as blatant as like changing the final four and all that's also something that has happened before in survival where people can come back I'm just saying all I'm

[00:53:49] saying is I don't feel like we are actually entitled to know what happens and I like I'm not gonna they got this that's why I don't want to argue this is you like if you like it and that's you're

[00:53:59] allowed to like it right and I don't like it and I think the majority of fans I don't like it's be forever but I feel like the sentiment is like now it's sort of become the accepted thing

[00:54:08] right if I go in I'm like okay it's part of the game but if I get to final four thinking I'm the best fire maker here I might be the biggest step but I know I can make fire

[00:54:16] and then they're like oh by the way no more fire and then I get voted out I'm like I wish you could have had a heads up so I could have I just took a million dollars from me I agree

[00:54:25] I agree like I don't take away your sentiment like I agree we shouldn't know ahead of the time but I also feel like as I don't you have to let I agree with you say you have to expect

[00:54:34] the unexpected right but that's just what I'm saying so I just feel like it's uh again I also it's the the super fans and the fans that study the game and know the game that go out there and

[00:54:44] then they think that like I just I like it because it's equalized that's all I'm just saying again I say I said what I say sometimes I don't even like equalize though I like the best players to

[00:54:54] to not be bad but sometimes they don't though but yeah this just gets into a whole other kind of thing you're saying like okay maybe the super fans know more what's gonna happen

[00:55:04] like by things being mixed up it's like that people that don't know the game as well right and then our but to that I would say two things I would say a pretty much anybody who is about

[00:55:14] to go on Survivor could go watch every season yeah b I think that what is on the biggest thing about each season that's unpredictable is like the people that you're with that's that's the

[00:55:25] variable that changes every season there's no real way to play for that so I think the the nice thing is if you're a prepared player you just know there's gonna be certain things that would likely happen but there are some things you can't prepare for and that's

[00:55:37] a lot of love I think you should that's what you can't prepare if you're the only so you can't prepare if you're a unicorn on a tribe of people that aren't anything like you right

[00:55:46] like 100% but at the same time that is the variable of the people yeah that was justified in your season I'm not saying speak specifically my season I'm saying the variable of it is

[00:55:57] all right but I just feel like I like it when they pull the wool over your eyes and then y'all have to think on the fly fair enough I can't I can't people shouldn't like that of it like that I just

[00:56:14] we're gonna miss our flight guys um sorry but no I get his point though like I get it but I just saying that difference of opinion right no just like genuinely right yeah some people like

[00:56:25] I think you should know but also I mean at the night's hour they say hey listen LeBron we ain't using this basketball no more here go this soccer ball see what you can do I would be in the fan life I would be in the arena like

[00:56:42] you might be the only one only you so Jake and Austin both want to make fire um Kintura doesn't seem to want to make fire uh and then Dee sort of plans to bring Austin with

[00:56:56] and then send in Jake in Kintura I think that's a really worked out really well for Dee in the sense that Jake is like begging to make fire and he's like she's giving this chance

[00:57:06] and she's like I got you it's like he was like send him in anyway so at least he goes feeling like he got to take his shot he's good at that yeah if he ends up on the jury that

[00:57:15] might be a vote for you to throw him um Austin wants to make fire because he knows he's good at it but Dee sort of this you know sort of gets us into the tribal council where Dee is saying like that could

[00:57:27] be another take on another surviving and that's another thing I don't like about the fire making challenge but maybe that's just sort of the modernized strategy of if I'm if I'm a good

[00:57:38] enough player or you because I think the whole thing about oh he made fire that's a big thing on his resume I think that's really stupid it's like it's just it's just making fire like it's not

[00:57:49] you guys don't take anything um maybe that's for me it's like the fact that someone is openly worried enough about your gameplay that they are just going to take you so that you can't make fire if I

[00:58:01] was something we got brought for that reason I'd be like that should be cooler than making fire openly worried about your gameplay but not worried or not so scared that they don't want to sit with

[00:58:16] you yeah but at the same time I'm yeah she's like I think Dee's logic is like I will probably be awesome but I don't want to give him another chance to take it so but if I'm awesome that's

[00:58:28] gonna be like well if out of the three options he has I'm the most scary that she's just gonna throw the other two in that should actually be a mark on my resume but I don't know because but it's

[00:58:40] not people bring people that they can be to the end that's what you do there's a word where people bring it's more in this situation Dee is probably Dee is probably like okay we we know

[00:58:54] that uh she's probably she'd probably be any three but it's still like okay in the so her logic is that she's actually gonna bring the best person of the three because she doesn't want that because

[00:59:03] she's already up here and they're all up here but I do wonder though if Austin did make fire and then was still sitting at the end I wonder if I wonder yeah because he was only one one vote

[00:59:16] away from my tie no I don't think it was a bad move by Dee yeah no I'm just saying if I was also I'd be like oh she's you know god look she's the most scared of me so I would almost say like

[00:59:28] you know I don't want to make fire because if she's so scared of me that being the tipping point then clearly I'll play a pretty good game right but I'm not the shot she's so scared of me but she

[00:59:40] wasn't sitting next to me get out of here no she's not she's not scared I'm not saying but I'm saying if I were Austin I would be sitting there saying I want to make fire but Dee's worried

[00:59:50] that our games are are comparable that fire okay that's a good argument that fire could give me the edge that's good I just want the drakes to take I want you guys the drakes to take that in and know

[00:59:59] that well he wouldn't be okay all right I think that's good I'm not saying that's the truth of the matter right but that isn't good I would angrily have to be like who cares if I could row two sticks

[01:00:07] together Paul right uh who cares if I could strike the flint but like I'd rather just get my free pass to the end and then like because she's worried that fire

[01:00:19] because for me and this might be a minority opinion but if you can make fire I don't care like I just this I mean you make I respect the the the ball's you know so maybe be like I give up my

[01:00:30] spot I'm gonna go beat this person because that's more of like take take take the ball in your own hands take the shot yourself and get someone good out but it was just like oh I got put

[01:00:39] in fire and I beat someone else like I don't know it doesn't it's maybe it's maybe it is that slightest uptake on the resume because maybe it's like oh you're clutched I think of a Chris Underwood

[01:00:50] right I feel like in a Chris Underwood situation that makes or break your situation especially if you won already but I mean for him it's like yeah I think it's maybe more the decision

[01:01:01] surrounding the firemaking is reflective of the play where Chris is like okay I gotta go all out let me go in and make fire against a big guy and that's but it's less about like oh

[01:01:12] he can make a fire it's more like all right he's he's he's taking things that matters into his own hands maybe that's the lesson on fire but it's just like oh if you make fire I know it doesn't

[01:01:22] really matter to me maybe the next time we're all together we should do a video of us make a fire well we'll have one fire will we um yes listen who do you think helped Austin make practice fire did you see the photos his mom posted on Instagram

[01:01:43] of you guys I was helping him in the backyard make the fire no you are okay check pull the instagram up but you can't um but then we get this uh yeah then so we get the fire making challenge and straight beats can turn up

[01:02:03] um pretty she had some she was getting it going a little bit but Jake did you know did a great job and then we get back to camp we get that final breakfast that I know Bryce is a fan of um

[01:02:18] and we start to get these these juror these segments with the jurors sort of giving some thoughts on all the players obviously we get a wide distribution of you know a few people

[01:02:27] talking about Austin people talk about beef you can talk about Jake but it's sort of just a race us and kind of recap some of the gameplay before you to have final travel council um

[01:02:40] and we get into the final travel now obviously there's a lot of questions on this and that but I think for me the the way I viewed it is and we could go into if anything like stood out but

[01:02:52] uh D and Austin played somewhat similar games but I do think D had a little bit of a social edge and then I also think for D the big reveal was at the end telling Austin oh I didn't tell Julie and

[01:03:05] we steered that vote her her uh ability within that showmance to be the one that is going to hold the information and you'll make a move without you sets her apart uh and I think that's why

[01:03:20] she had the actual over Austin and as a juror that's kind of what my interpretation to Jake I agree with I mentioned this earlier with what Caleb said it's like he had good game instincts like I think

[01:03:29] Jake is a solid strategic player but the pieces just never really fell into place and like you're you never really steer the vote um but he was scrappy like I would give rocks it's just like

[01:03:40] it got very similar to like an overnight where it's like on paper you're a social god smart player but just with the way the chips fell this season it's like you you know they ended up

[01:03:51] doing anything and that's not even really your fault but it's just how it went down um so that's kind of was was the the essence of the final trial with me but did any other questions stand out

[01:04:03] to you guys or anything else any case um I mean again I thought D did a really good job of speaking herself uh speaking about all the things that she did and just kind of like really

[01:04:13] highlighting things I think Jake was great uh also you know for me it was just my man Austin I feel like I got nervous because I felt like uh we kept saying he had such a similar edit to Xander and

[01:04:27] I agreed to that you know I also love Xander but I also feel like uh when Xander gave his final speech I felt like he left a lot on the table like or he didn't like and so I was nervous that

[01:04:37] Austin would do the same thing so I was actually like just really proud of how shout out to my man my man my man but I just was how he articulated and how he held herself like you know it made me

[01:04:49] proud to be Bryce Isaiah Coon so um I think I think um one thing to I think D did a really good job of final final tribal and I think that her strategy to hold the the fact that she

[01:05:06] withheld the information from Austin um and told Julie that whatever to play her I she purposely held that until he said something about this photo and to not step into final

[01:05:20] tribal and wear that as a badge but to understand you know you guys are gonna talk through things and you know he's gonna at some point say something and you're gonna have something

[01:05:30] to trump that I think I think strategy wise like I think that was brilliant because you want to you want to poke your chest out and say all the things you did and sometimes under the lights and

[01:05:41] everything that's like that's like just you want to get on the table and how about like body language doesn't lie right so like when she revealed that I don't know if y'all people like

[01:05:52] I feel like her dropping that bomb on him right then and there like I felt like that reception out there was live oh yeah I think her strategy going into that like and also she had the most

[01:06:07] individual immunity was the season um she was this center of information everything went through her yeah um I just I just got lots of respect for her game and how she was like like a triple threat

[01:06:21] out there as far as like immunities social strategic yeah and then in the final travel she sat at home with you ask me yeah I say all that okay but I also say about your man okay come on

[01:06:33] now like he's still got three votes to her five if he would have swung one other vote that's a tie and and Jake's exit press he said he would have broke the tie and given it to D but

[01:06:45] it could have been close right I don't know if they're not now after the fact yeah they what they say Monday morning quarterback in yeah so Austin gave her a run for her money

[01:06:55] yeah I uh I agree with that I also feel like uh you know I have my back and forth with D we don't see eye to eye you know she's trying to come for what's mine but at the end of the day I think that

[01:07:08] one of the things that I respected the most about her was that somebody if somebody talking about me I'm coming I'm coming for you and so I love that she kept that energy this whole season and it

[01:07:18] didn't backfire and it's like yeah clearly you are likable he clearly people trust you I kept saying this whole season that like there must be some aspects that we're not seeing of her because

[01:07:28] even when Kelly did her in her exit interview she talked about how close she was with D and we didn't really get to see that so again kudos to D the one thing I will say congratulations the one

[01:07:40] her one hiccup in final try here we got can we talk about it okay she came at Bruce oh she did what did she say she was like should have played that idol Bruce

[01:07:53] yeah yeah you should have played it oh and he went from like this oh yeah I was on a jewelry on the fence that might just steal my vote for her now I was gonna say maybe

[01:08:06] Bruce doesn't sort of look that as like a bit of a try to pariah you might take a job at him he might lose his vote but everyone else might be like oh that's the only thing so in

[01:08:21] in my opinion it's just like you should have played I know oh my gosh she really hit him with that in my opinion it's just like you just don't say that yeah that's the one line you just leave

[01:08:32] out and you think that the new era you say it again she got the mill I uh I definitely think that again I love all of the new winners in the new era that we have but I definitely think

[01:08:45] that I'm curious to know like where you guys think D ranks as a winner in this new era because I think all of the winners that we have had are great uh and but I definitely think like D is running on

[01:09:02] multiple cylinders we have five winners of the new era I think she is the the strongest winner in the new era I think she has an argument to be one of the strongest women winners period

[01:09:16] and I think that she has an argument to be one of the best winners yeah I would even think strong women winner out this is just one stronger winners period yeah I told her I think hands down

[01:09:27] she's the best winner in the new era uh and then it's I don't have like a mental ranking of all the winners every but I would I think pretty commonly say she's probably like the top

[01:09:40] third of winners yeah I mean here's my thing and then this is a this is the discussion I wanted to have that I think was interesting is we talked about this a little bit throughout the season but

[01:09:49] to me the new era is like it's harder to be a strong winner in the sense that the players are more adept there's more fans there's more good there's more like quality

[01:10:03] strategy on average look Caleb facing I did like that um whereas old school seasons it's like you might be the most charismatic person and the smartest and you can just get everyone in with you yeah

[01:10:16] and there was more dominant winners there was more like Kim Svahlin's JT's um Boston Robbs where they're just running it from jump that doesn't happen anymore right so but I feel like is there a case that these running but that's what I think it's like

[01:10:35] makes it even harder it's not as blatant of like she has like a Boston Robb like cult following but she did she explained it where Austin was probably never gonna write her name down Julie was probably never gonna write her name down her name down

[01:10:48] Victoria seems like she probably was never gonna write her name down because the one obviously she really adds you get it um but legitimately and so it's like it's it's it's

[01:10:58] harder to be like as because also those those some of the top winners that we look back on they make big moves the whole game with because they got their allies that are just gonna do

[01:11:09] whatever they said now it's like you got you can't you can't make big moves the whole game like you're there's not that's just not gonna happen anymore maybe on like a rare rare rare

[01:11:18] case maybe like a toni cocking on like but that's not the new era even um because so it's like now we've got all these people who are smart enough to know if you're the biggest threat we gotta cut

[01:11:29] you to be the biggest threat and not get cut as like D did is really sets her apart where because it's like in all the last few seasons like the biggest threat they get

[01:11:41] out like I look at Jesse in 43 you look at like a record in 41 a shannon 41 um carl up 42 a Homer like yeah yeah uh last season was a little bit different with that tika 3 running it up and jam jam was a

[01:11:57] very solid winner but i think that entire tika 3 deserves a lot of credit and i also think there was a little bit of like complacent gameplay from their opposition like the words there was

[01:12:09] never much of like a Lauren and Jamie counter attack on that tika well i mean we never saw that but i also could say the same thing where i felt like there was a lot of complacent in outside of riba

[01:12:19] because like i just saw i take that back or i i but no that's true that's obviously a reason the riba group was able to dominate so well but i think that riba did a collectively did a great job

[01:12:31] socially of making sure that bella like never came together and of course they were prepared for the war the whole time i think d really was a big factor that because like i mean one of the

[01:12:41] like jake was was ready to rock and roll shake and bake but like katora who d was primarily is responsible for pulling in never never acted against riba and i think that's because d had her

[01:12:54] under her wing so yeah well but also she was on the house on bella and so that like you know she okay for those who she wants to d for welcoming her in it and giving her a place this season reminds me a lot of ghost island

[01:13:12] in that like like i had my ally dom and we had laurel and we had donathan and we had this four and so who's your dom uh julie no i'd say i'd say uh austin and d and we had this four and

[01:13:30] if the right people mobilized against us or saw it they could have taken a shot and really cracked us but there wasn't much that allowed that and in this case you had for a long time you had

[01:13:42] numbers on the periphery that should have just came together and figured out a way to shoot their shot and they didn't they didn't get the opportunity so that's all i wanted to say with them

[01:13:52] i agree to that point we almost had a tie as well right yo when they were reading the votes i was like is this allowed to be the second time yeah um no i i yeah i she was really

[01:14:06] impressed and we we saw it from the jump where she was willing to be a little bit cutthroat yeah but also a great social player and when her name came up she was picking

[01:14:17] people off and i'm like yo this is gonna come to a right so important because we in every season that we have seen something like that like it always does end so and again for her to be able to

[01:14:27] act that not act that way but also it's like when they say mama tina the julie day why are you ain't sniping them right like it's like you know like but again i love that type of gameplay i think that

[01:14:38] is is marvelous um and then i guess my other question to finish things up you know we we've talked about where d ranks in the new era but where do we think 45 ranks in the new era and all time

[01:14:53] they had the benefit of 90 minutes for sure i'll put that asterisk there but i think i think it's i think it's the best season of new era i agree uh what's she in than i'm season 41 i mean i

[01:15:05] i i have an affinity for 41 uh i do i believe that's the worst one i love again i don't even i think people think it's the worst because all of the new thing every year so much is no one

[01:15:17] different now we're kind of used to all these new and different things but also now production is used to it and now and they've worked some kinks out and now they have this this machine moving properly

[01:15:28] so things should look a little better on 45 right but also you got the 90 minutes and you have all of that so the 90 minutes i don't think we we don't think we could say it enough um

[01:15:40] because i think about if this was if this was an hour season from it right then because not only is the 90 minutes like on paper of course we're getting more content but what we're really getting is that

[01:15:53] extra time at camp and you know with getting ready commercials right so an hour episode with no commercial like 42 minutes right an hour 30 episode with no commercials like a little over an hour you're basically getting 20 extra minutes of camp life for 13 episodes that's like three hours of

[01:16:13] just a straight character content that a we were enjoying a lot of moments like the one that jumps to mind is that that boys night montage where they're playing like playing with the boys

[01:16:24] like i'm like i got lost this swimming in us so many so many moments um and wow i was pouring out this weather but um that's awesome okay but not only that not only do you get those moments like

[01:16:39] that are good within those moments but it just builds your attachment to the characters nice every boot out so much more impactful and then not to mention in the pre-merge i love how we

[01:16:50] got a lot of time with each tribe i really felt like i knew where most players heads were at and what the dynamics of the tribe was um when it's the 60 minute episode there's tribes like i have no

[01:17:00] idea what's going on right um so yeah if it was a 60 minute season it might have been who knows it had some huge strategic moments but also had some laws where the read before

[01:17:10] was really dominating but yeah like you said within 90 minutes i think it's the best new era season it's a little bit of an asterisk but sure i'll take it with an asterisk that it's

[01:17:19] great yeah yeah the only thing that i will say uh that i love the 90 minutes can we get the ponderosa videos back and popping please like i that used to be a highlight of my survivor time i used to

[01:17:32] love to go online and see what the people on ponderosa are doing because for me not only i would peak the interaction with some hell coming right it's coming down hard but i would pick

[01:17:44] some interactions because for me it also will help me then judge the jewelry a lot more because sometimes i feel like i want to see how the jewelry is interacting and i just love the ponderosa

[01:17:51] videos i do too so just watching the new player get to like to the table eat their first right i started shooting it up through the shit i love it so jeffrey jamal khalil malcom provost make that happen

[01:18:07] okay uh forget why they got rid of them i find i know there was like some weird i got you down a little bit later oh my god but listen i think this survivor new season has been one of our best

[01:18:20] again we can't do without the great wendizzi who always get on my nerves but he on play okay he got my back and so we love wendizzi the baby boy jack atkins you have shown up showed out

[01:18:34] survivor news listen we coming i think next season we should uh work on doing a lot more content for you guys and if that's something that y'all want let the baby boys know because no we coming

[01:18:45] okay absolutely and yeah i would just say like every week we love reading your guys comments and stuff so please whatever it is in the youtube comments or wherever let us know your thoughts on the season

[01:18:58] on the survivor news on what you want more of of where d ranks as a winner of how 45 like we just i love reading through all the thoughts so please please please get active in those comments

[01:19:08] i will put my amazon storefront on the link so that if you want to get jack a new notebook you can bless it it's a great notebook with a notebook i don't see anyone else no book

[01:19:24] well i got my book bag no because what everyone told me this week was but like they thought the notebook thing was hilarious but then when it was time for you to show

[01:19:33] your notebook you would barely even show i mean listen no it was yes we do you were you were like check jack's notebook looks like i left it at the hotel i left it at the hotel okay all right

[01:19:49] we all know but it's got honestly i'm like mine's creeper because i like you'd like what yeah of waterlog it's more than critical bro it was out in monsoon bro why is it so thick right now

[01:20:03] it's one of the little notebooks but it's thick i don't know man it's got something left to just see with the just one seat that was every page critical you don't have a bag you didn't want to show what happened to the bag

[01:20:28] i'm not saying it's not damaged i'm just saying 50 percent off it wasn't it wasn't three stop technoblock it's too important damn jack it's not that funny what did i have

[01:20:55] okay just beat up jack how long have you had it how about a year how does it get that disheveled over one year well years along time if i use this mostly i use this for work i mean

[01:21:07] it's not like it's my personal product it's it's it's just a notebook i don't like the expensive you've been doing this can we when we walk outside in the rain can we use it as a

[01:21:18] umbrella that's disrespect listen notebook or not this has been a great survivor new season we will be back next season maybe even before that this has been your survivor news you better hurry right back go in the purple pants in the purple pants