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[00:02:36] Survivor News Edition, episode 379, cues way.

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[00:02:45] Bryce Isaiah, and I thank you so much for tuning in

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[00:03:20] We are coming off of the hills of such a chaotic

[00:03:25] tribal and entertaining episode.

[00:03:28] So I am so excited to be here with the baby boy,

[00:03:32] Jack Atkins and Wendell Holland.

[00:03:34] And we have our big brother friend Izzy from Big

[00:03:37] Brother Season 25.

[00:03:38] We are all here to break down everything that happened.

[00:03:43] It is so much that happened.

[00:03:45] I have such high energy.

[00:03:47] It's really giving.

[00:03:48] Let's get in to this week's Survivor News.

[00:04:15] And we are back this week, not Q's way, but my way.

[00:04:25] We are back this week with Survivor News and an

[00:04:29] epic episode to get through.

[00:04:31] And I feel like an epic episode deserves an epic

[00:04:34] panel.

[00:04:35] Let's welcome back to the podcast, the first mate

[00:04:38] of the Survivor News ship, Jackery Atkins.

[00:04:40] You might know him from season two of The Circle

[00:04:43] and season three of Survivor News.

[00:04:45] And season four of Survivor News.

[00:04:47] And season five of Survivor News.

[00:04:49] And season six of Survivor News.

[00:04:51] And season six has just aired this week.

[00:04:54] So Jackery, open chat.

[00:04:56] Welcome to the podcast.

[00:04:58] Send chat.

[00:04:59] Thank you, Bryce.

[00:05:00] Man, I'm so excited.

[00:05:01] This is a great episode and I've got some new,

[00:05:04] I'm trying to add a new outfit for this episode

[00:05:06] because you know,

[00:05:07] Oh, my God.

[00:05:09] You got.

[00:05:10] Oh, oh no.

[00:05:12] Don't show the under bit.

[00:05:13] Oh, I don't even know how to wear the Q skirt,

[00:05:16] but I'm wearing it.

[00:05:17] So I mean, yeah.

[00:05:21] Go ahead, Bryce.

[00:05:22] Oh no.

[00:05:23] Cause I was going to say,

[00:05:24] I believe the exact quote from Hugh was if you're

[00:05:28] a guy and you want a little bit of swag,

[00:05:32] you better get you a Q skirt.

[00:05:35] Okay.

[00:05:38] Jack, I thought the hood was supposed to face outwards.

[00:05:40] It's the jet.

[00:05:41] It's the QJ.

[00:05:42] So if you want the two pockets,

[00:05:43] you got to face it in front or you got to have this in

[00:05:46] the front.

[00:05:47] So you get your pockets here and then,

[00:05:49] you know, if you got like an idol,

[00:05:51] you tuck it up in here,

[00:05:52] fold it over.

[00:05:54] I'm talking about tucking already.

[00:05:56] Oh, that's so strange, Jack.

[00:05:59] The way I did it was.

[00:06:01] Oh my God.

[00:06:04] Oh my God.

[00:06:06] I could just tuck my idol.

[00:06:08] Oh, you know, just, I got my beard brush.

[00:06:11] You just tuck it in there and you keep it moving.

[00:06:13] Is he, is that an idol or is he happy to see?

[00:06:17] I'm not happy to see any of it.

[00:06:20] Well, rocking his Q skirt.

[00:06:23] He is clearly a guy and once a little bit of swag,

[00:06:26] let's welcome back to the purple pants podcast.

[00:06:29] You may recognize him from the upcoming season of the goat or

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[00:06:37] at war.

[00:06:38] Wendy Z.

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[00:06:47] Okay.

[00:06:48] And listen last,

[00:06:49] but certainly not least if you have ever been in an

[00:06:52] orchestra,

[00:06:53] you know, the flute is one of the most important things of the

[00:06:57] percussions.

[00:06:58] It's not, is it a percussion?

[00:07:00] It's a, okay.

[00:07:01] So the opposite of a percussion is a flu.

[00:07:04] You may recognize this person from big brother 25,

[00:07:07] but more importantly,

[00:07:08] you recognize this person from the fields family cookout.

[00:07:12] Let's welcome Izzy to the podcast.

[00:07:15] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[00:07:16] My condolences to all that watched big brother 25.

[00:07:19] Thank you.

[00:07:20] Izzy you are alleged, you are robbed. Okay.

[00:07:22] And speaking of robbed,

[00:07:24] we have a lot to get through in this episode,

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[00:07:33] and when tour 46,

[00:07:35] we are in the last half of the stretch of our tour.

[00:07:40] We have been to New York.

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[00:07:48] We've been to Dallas and we are heading to Chicago next week.

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[00:08:17] the grand finale of what this season has started off a little

[00:08:21] slow,

[00:08:22] but we go in a Q way and we're going all the way in.

[00:08:26] We have our Philadelphia stop may 15th, Philadelphia.

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[00:09:00] you know,

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[00:09:25] Okay.

[00:09:26] We got all of that out the way.

[00:09:28] And then you know,

[00:09:29] we're going to be like,

[00:09:30] Hey,

[00:09:31] we're going to be like,

[00:09:32] Oh,

[00:09:33] let's just kick it off with what you got.

[00:09:35] What's your guide?

[00:09:36] You know,

[00:09:37] usually I love to go kind of chronological or close to

[00:09:41] that,

[00:09:42] but how do we not kick this off?

[00:09:45] Just getting into the,

[00:09:47] the meat and potatoes as Bryce likes to call them.

[00:09:49] I feel like,

[00:09:50] cause we just jumped right into that tribal and then kind

[00:09:53] of backtrack from there.

[00:09:54] Well,

[00:09:55] yes.

[00:09:56] I think the editing about hide and seek being all important

[00:09:59] didn't even come into play at tribal.

[00:10:01] So it was like,

[00:10:02] It's up, you know what?

[00:10:04] Yes.

[00:10:05] Let's jump in the tribal.

[00:10:06] I think hide and seek did come into play,

[00:10:10] but not at tribal,

[00:10:12] but it did like,

[00:10:13] I like,

[00:10:14] okay.

[00:10:16] This is how tribal left me.

[00:10:18] Okay.

[00:10:19] But I did think,

[00:10:20] uh,

[00:10:21] just going into hide and seek real quick,

[00:10:23] right?

[00:10:24] Q,

[00:10:25] I'm the master of going one way.

[00:10:30] Like say Izzy,

[00:10:31] we drive it down the street.

[00:10:32] And I'm like Izzy,

[00:10:34] I got them.

[00:10:35] I've got the map quest.

[00:10:36] Make a left is he.

[00:10:39] Make a right Izzy.

[00:10:41] And all of a sudden Izzy like we lost and then we

[00:10:45] magically arrived there and Q like,

[00:10:47] I don't even go get there.

[00:10:49] I took a shortcut.

[00:10:50] Q is just the master of illusion.

[00:10:53] And it's like,

[00:10:55] if you are bored out there Q,

[00:10:56] if you miss your wife,

[00:10:57] if you miss your family and you want to play a game,

[00:11:00] just say that.

[00:11:01] Right?

[00:11:02] I feel like Q was like,

[00:11:03] let's play a game.

[00:11:04] And then in the middle of the game,

[00:11:05] he's like,

[00:11:06] Oh,

[00:11:07] mistake number one.

[00:11:08] You got Izzy on the podcast.

[00:11:10] Mistake number two,

[00:11:11] Jack,

[00:11:12] you didn't messed up now.

[00:11:13] Like I just feel like.

[00:11:15] Well,

[00:11:16] everything's like a test,

[00:11:17] but no one knows they're being tested.

[00:11:19] And I feel like ultimately like the biggest issue with this

[00:11:22] season so far is like,

[00:11:23] everyone has just like heard the buzzword that they

[00:11:26] shouldn't trust anyone that no one's trusting ever

[00:11:28] anyone.

[00:11:29] And so then like everything's like a mess.

[00:11:31] Like the only people that maybe actually trust each

[00:11:33] other are Kenzie and Tiffany and Maria and Charlie

[00:11:37] and maybe Hunter and Tevin.

[00:11:39] But like now Tevin's gone,

[00:11:40] you know,

[00:11:41] so like that's it like Q,

[00:11:43] why are you also trying to test Tiffany?

[00:11:45] That's your girl.

[00:11:46] Like that's your number one.

[00:11:47] Like what is going on?

[00:11:48] And also Tiffany's like seemingly the smartest,

[00:11:51] like most rational person on the beach.

[00:11:53] So I don't know why you wouldn't want to work with her because

[00:11:55] you're a mess.

[00:11:56] You're like the most emotional ego driven player that's ever

[00:11:59] existed.

[00:12:00] Like it's awful.

[00:12:01] It's like,

[00:12:02] yeah,

[00:12:03] it's driving me now.

[00:12:04] So quick at that tribal.

[00:12:06] I would have been like,

[00:12:07] so we're voting his ass out,

[00:12:08] right?

[00:12:09] Like get him out of here.

[00:12:10] Like I don't understand.

[00:12:11] Yeah.

[00:12:12] You know,

[00:12:13] he's a genius.

[00:12:14] Is he though?

[00:12:15] See,

[00:12:16] I,

[00:12:17] okay.

[00:12:18] He's a genius after the fact.

[00:12:19] You know,

[00:12:20] he's so much of,

[00:12:21] we all know those confessionals happened after the shit.

[00:12:23] And it's like,

[00:12:24] he's like,

[00:12:25] listen,

[00:12:26] I threw cockle doodle zoom.

[00:12:27] No,

[00:12:28] I did it motherfucker.

[00:12:29] It's like,

[00:12:30] come on.

[00:12:31] But see,

[00:12:32] here's my thing.

[00:12:33] I feel like Q is a magician,

[00:12:35] right?

[00:12:36] Like we know magic doesn't really exist,

[00:12:39] but when the old creepy guy is like,

[00:12:42] Oh,

[00:12:43] that's a quarter.

[00:12:44] I'm like,

[00:12:45] now where did that quarter come from?

[00:12:47] Right.

[00:12:48] Because here's like,

[00:12:49] I,

[00:12:50] again,

[00:12:51] some of my questions is he are just like window might've one

[00:12:54] survivor,

[00:12:55] but Jack is the survivor Almanac and like his opinion is the

[00:12:58] only opinion that really matters to me.

[00:12:59] And it's like for me,

[00:13:00] Jack,

[00:13:01] I really like,

[00:13:02] I have to say this episode gave me a lot of respect for Q,

[00:13:06] right?

[00:13:07] Because I feel like Q doesn't realize the power that he has.

[00:13:12] Because he essentially shifted the whole course of this season.

[00:13:19] Like,

[00:13:20] I really feel like say pause on soda going home and we getting

[00:13:24] right back to tribal,

[00:13:25] right?

[00:13:26] And we pause or getting right back to camp.

[00:13:28] If we pause it right there,

[00:13:29] right?

[00:13:30] I really feel like out of the 10,

[00:13:32] somebody was going to win,

[00:13:33] right?

[00:13:34] I really feel like after what Q did,

[00:13:36] that person is no longer going to win as someone else is now

[00:13:40] illuminated.

[00:13:41] Like I really feel like what Q did was he shifted the course,

[00:13:47] right?

[00:13:48] He shifted the course is Epic is smart,

[00:13:50] but it's like,

[00:13:51] I don't know if he intended to do that,

[00:13:53] but now that he did it,

[00:13:54] he like,

[00:13:55] I did it.

[00:13:56] That's what I meant to do.

[00:13:57] And that's what's supposed to happen.

[00:13:58] Are we talking about right when they get back to camp or

[00:14:00] we're talking about this tribal where he does all the

[00:14:02] stuff.

[00:14:03] I'm just saying in general,

[00:14:04] like if we pause this episode soon as they got back to camp,

[00:14:06] right?

[00:14:07] I feel like out of the 10,

[00:14:08] somebody was going to win,

[00:14:09] right?

[00:14:10] And the soda vote like immediate, like right after the soda.

[00:14:13] Yes.

[00:14:14] Yes.

[00:14:15] Right.

[00:14:16] Where it's like there was a winner,

[00:14:17] but I feel like after what Q did that initial winner is no

[00:14:21] longer the winner.

[00:14:22] And now it's going to someone else because he has completely

[00:14:25] shifted the game.

[00:14:26] And it's like,

[00:14:27] he wills so much power.

[00:14:30] But I also feel like,

[00:14:32] like in the way that he wields it is so like my

[00:14:38] God, don't you think that it's like less that he's this like

[00:14:41] maniacal genius and actually just like that people are like a

[00:14:45] little scared or hesitant to take the bait.

[00:14:48] Like,

[00:14:49] like there was like just a massive opportunity for them to

[00:14:52] settle down.

[00:14:53] Like he might've changed the course of the game,

[00:14:55] but were people really scared that by voting out Q suddenly

[00:14:58] they don't have an end game?

[00:14:59] Like girl restart.

[00:15:00] He's a mess.

[00:15:01] Like you can't trust anything.

[00:15:02] He said, Tiffany,

[00:15:03] you're really not going to push for Q at that tribal after

[00:15:07] finding out that he told everyone about your idol and putting your,

[00:15:10] your names out there. I don't know. It's like,

[00:15:12] he was a number for a lot of people though.

[00:15:14] And in all 47 of the alliances that he was in and restructured,

[00:15:19] he was a number for all 47 of those.

[00:15:21] I don't know. Yeah.

[00:15:23] But an unreliable one that doesn't care about what anyone else

[00:15:25] thinks.

[00:15:26] He's on, I'd say the beauty of it. Right? Like,

[00:15:29] again,

[00:15:30] I'm not saying that he has shaped the game in a way that he

[00:15:32] going to win. I'm just saying he has shaped the game.

[00:15:35] And it's interesting, right? Because it's like,

[00:15:38] if there were a little more thought behind it,

[00:15:41] like him using this power for me,

[00:15:43] I felt like seeing Maria and Charlie kind of be like,

[00:15:45] I don't know what the hell is going on.

[00:15:47] Them being the most logical and methodical players that we have,

[00:15:51] the fact that he is able to have them in a world when there is a

[00:15:54] world that I think that that is like so smart.

[00:15:57] Is it good for your own game? No.

[00:15:59] But I don't know. I just feel like there needs to be a course study on

[00:16:03] Q and how he moves through the game.

[00:16:05] I think he has people shook in that as if someone says his name,

[00:16:08] who knows what's going to happen.

[00:16:10] I would have been like, Q,

[00:16:12] I want to give you what you want.

[00:16:14] We're all voting.

[00:16:15] Right.

[00:16:16] Scared for him. They were like,

[00:16:18] I don't want Q to be mad at Q.

[00:16:20] So I'm like,

[00:16:21] I don't want him to be mad at me.

[00:16:23] I don't want him to be mad at me.

[00:16:25] I don't want him to be mad at me.

[00:16:27] I don't want Q to be mad at Q.

[00:16:29] So I think.

[00:16:31] No, keep going, Wendell. I'm sorry.

[00:16:33] I'm all fired up.

[00:16:35] It's three against one.

[00:16:36] I can feel it and I'm never, I'm not backing down on this one.

[00:16:39] I like those eyes.

[00:16:43] Now I just think, I think Q is,

[00:16:45] I think he's great TV.

[00:16:47] I think he's playing really, really hard.

[00:16:49] I think he,

[00:16:50] I think he does have a little revisionist history or a little

[00:16:53] Monday morning quarterbacking when it comes to,

[00:16:56] I think he's like,

[00:16:57] I think he's like,

[00:16:58] I think he's like,

[00:16:59] Hey, whatever happened.

[00:17:00] This thing turned out and he's still on the beach.

[00:17:02] So he's going to find a story to tell you that,

[00:17:04] that in his head it's like,

[00:17:06] This was all purposeful.

[00:17:07] And I love it.

[00:17:08] I love watching him.

[00:17:12] And I'd like for him to stay on the beach a lot longer.

[00:17:14] Yes.

[00:17:15] So, okay.

[00:17:16] Izzy. I don't think it's three versus one.

[00:17:18] I'm even shiny.

[00:17:19] I think that's a,

[00:17:20] I think that's a fantastic,

[00:17:22] fantastic,

[00:17:23] fantastic idea.

[00:17:24] I'm just so,

[00:17:25] so amazement and I'm so,

[00:17:26] so amazement.

[00:17:27] I'm just so amazement that he's got the basic idea,

[00:17:29] but I think that Q is really amazing.

[00:17:31] I'm so amazement that he's got the basic idea of what

[00:17:33] he's going to do.

[00:17:34] And I think that's a fantastic idea too.

[00:17:36] I don't know if we've ever seen someone like Q who.

[00:17:39] At the center of everything.

[00:17:41] And I feel like not only do we have no idea what.

[00:17:44] Q was cooking up.

[00:17:46] I don't think Q has any idea what he's cooking up either.

[00:17:48] with you that I think unless you're really locked in, locked in with Q, if you're at final 10 and

[00:17:53] someone wants to go home like Tevin said he's a grown man like if you want to leave leave like

[00:17:59] I'm not gonna fight to keep someone else in the game $20 million like that's I get it if you

[00:18:05] have like a crucial vote and you need Q that's fine but if you're planning an eight to two vote

[00:18:10] on Tevin and Q is that eighth vote then I think you could just cut Q and maybe you get

[00:18:15] Tevin next time or maybe you readjust the next time but it is absolutely insane I don't think

[00:18:21] Q I don't think he was a good player at all but there is something that he's doing that there's

[00:18:25] like a method to the madness that is working in a weird way like Bryce said I don't think he's

[00:18:30] gonna win but by god it is really fun to watch and it's just like I thought it was

[00:18:36] I thought it was interesting at tribal once they finally when Tiffany was like can we talk

[00:18:41] they always get separated I thought it was interesting and of course you don't get to see

[00:18:46] everything so I'm curious what was left out but I felt like the little mini conversations were

[00:18:50] ultimately like everyone was just so bewildered instead of seeing what happened at tribal as an

[00:18:55] opportunity as an opportunity that like was handed to everyone on a silver platter and

[00:19:00] instead everyone was just like either too scared or like didn't have the foresight to

[00:19:06] and so everyone was just like I'm confused so like we should just do the plan we said right

[00:19:12] because I'm scared to do anything different and so I thought that was like I was disappointed

[00:19:18] in the other nine at that moment even if Q wasn't the one to go home I'll give you that

[00:19:22] but just using that as an opportunity to be like maybe the slate is blank right now what

[00:19:27] do we do with this that would actually be good you know I got three things to say that

[00:19:32] um a lot of times your opinion is not changed at tribal council right so I'm gonna say that I'm

[00:19:40] gonna say that to you as the one well Jackson non-survivor also but like as the one like

[00:19:46] people generally speaking they go into tribal and like you'll try to pull a rabbit out

[00:19:50] of a hat but people know where they're voting at tribe second it is true Izzy if I were you

[00:19:56] you would you rather no if if you're on island at the end of the day would you rather sit next to

[00:20:02] Q at the end or Tevin either one I think anyone can Wendell anyone can sit next to

[00:20:08] anyone at the end and win the game you know like I don't I don't think I'm gonna sit next

[00:20:14] to you I'm gonna sit next but hold on that's been a second of three points yeah yeah go

[00:20:19] ahead go ahead and my last point is um I believe Q is uh Tony and Kagaian listen you ain't listen

[00:20:28] yeah but I I you know I don't want to ever see that again so I don't know

[00:20:32] who's giving us Tony and Kagaian he really is though uh and here's the thing though right

[00:20:37] take your question Wendell would I rather sit next to a Q or Tevin I have seen survivor

[00:20:44] seasons where if a Q gets to the end although people again similar to Tony and Kagaian

[00:20:51] although people might be like what the hell they might and again because you know Q was

[00:20:56] gonna sit up there say everything that I did he did uh so I like that's actually I don't know

[00:21:02] if that's such a black and white question uh that you're asking Wendell because yeah like

[00:21:10] I don't know uh also I just wanted to say after the episode aired Q took to his Instagram

[00:21:18] and posted first of all the challenge from last week oh yeah with the caption curveball

[00:21:27] now

[00:21:31] did you throw a curveball or were you aiming to hit the pitcher and it curved curveball

[00:21:40] uh I think the thing about Q too he this like he's he needs to like be in such control that I think

[00:21:50] this idea of him wanting to quit was okay he's not in control of this vote what's the one thing

[00:21:56] he can't control is to say I vote me out and then you go out and you're like oh not not to

[00:22:03] not to project on what would happen but it would be the type of thing and I feel like

[00:22:06] I've seen it before where it's like yeah I probably was gonna win but like I messed up

[00:22:11] I did them wrong so I said hey vote me out so like and then you feel like you're the man

[00:22:16] and in reality it's like you're just a quitter but um makes me question Jalinski's exit

[00:22:24] I believe that Q was like oh man this is gonna be hard should we stop like I just

[00:22:30] believe it I see it he's the type that like doesn't it's like you know he doesn't want to

[00:22:35] show he's like so macho so ego-driven that like he doesn't want to show that he's tried really

[00:22:41] really really really hard he didn't try in that poll in the challenge he didn't try at all and

[00:22:45] he doesn't want to show that he might reach a limit he wants to keep people thinking that he

[00:22:49] has no limit when really it's like he's scared he's intimidated and he's just using his like

[00:22:56] size and the sort of like I don't know like yeah he's like using it to his advantage and

[00:23:02] people are scared of it of course because you're always scared in these games of the loudest

[00:23:06] voice right like the loudest voice wields some power enough power to make people scared and I

[00:23:12] think enough people are scared I don't know sorry to cut you off right one it's like you know

[00:23:21] scare me with the size Q scare me uh but two things right because I want to bring it back

[00:23:28] to Jalinsky justice for Jalinsky I really feel like I am a detective and my and I work for the

[00:23:40] survivor news police department and I am issuing a warrant for Q's arrest he is a serial killer

[00:23:52] right listen to me he's a serial killer but we didn't know his first victim was Jalinsky

[00:23:59] and he was like I don't know I woke up and Jalinsky was dead and like we believed it we

[00:24:04] was like oh my god we got a killer on the loose and then time and time again we have seen

[00:24:11] these killings with the same mo and it's like you like I don't know he I got the knife in my

[00:24:20] hand and he got a stab there and I don't he just fell into the knife and like again we have seen

[00:24:26] it time again and here with the Tiffany thing it's like he tried to he had the knife but

[00:24:34] Tiffany dies like see Q is a serial killer and Jalinsky was his first victim but we didn't

[00:24:42] have enough evidence me as the detective chief of the survivor news I am issuing Q

[00:24:49] I am issuing a warrant for you okay somebody come get him because like we've seen this time

[00:24:58] and time again and it's like wow but here is the thing though right this episode in my

[00:25:04] opinion right I've been looking at Q and this this whole thing like what are you doing

[00:25:09] this episode I took a step back and I was like one Q is great like Q is great and we can get him

[00:25:16] for the rest of the season please because but I don't know there is weirdly some type of like

[00:25:26] I want to tip my hat off to Q a little bit right because it's like in your crazy chaos

[00:25:31] is somehow to this point like you're still here and my second point is I know that

[00:25:36] ain't really make a lot of sense but last season we had Hannah we had who was the other person

[00:25:43] that quit last season Sean what I am confused about and this is where I need Jackery to weigh

[00:25:50] in because I think Sean had a or Hannah wanted to leave because other people wanted to be there

[00:25:56] before her everybody's all if you create a survivor you're done you're done where is

[00:26:04] that same energy for Q because that's just I'm just double standard right loud enough he's

[00:26:11] loud enough he's macho and I don't know it came for Hannah and y'all came for Sean

[00:26:16] like nobody's business and I feel like with Sean they he they voted him out like I'm

[00:26:24] Bryce it's part of Q's plan Bryce he was not trying to go home I guarantee you there will be

[00:26:31] a confessional on Wednesday about it that doesn't tell us anything because it's all after the fact

[00:26:37] that doesn't tell us anything he was supposed to be on 45 but he was like no put me on 46

[00:26:43] because I know Sean and Hannah won't do what they did and I gotta show them how to do the

[00:26:47] actual plan like yeah so I think I want to know from you again I think there is some I

[00:26:54] don't think it was like I don't necessarily know that it was a plan but there's some

[00:26:59] method to the madness where again if if he like what Hannah did was like if you guys don't vote me

[00:27:05] out I'm quitting when we get back to camp and what I'm sorry it was more like I think I'm the

[00:27:10] person that that deserves to be voted out and he's not everybody gonna go and I won't be I

[00:27:15] won't be there yeah which is like but that's the thing I think you're saying that we're

[00:27:20] giving I don't think he's a very good player if you could see at the end and I was on the

[00:27:23] jury I would say you tried to quit you are not you're not getting my vote ever obviously

[00:27:28] he's still there so he's still surviving so you're not going to give him the flak of like

[00:27:31] but yeah him trying to quit we'll see if that's like but we know this is like cute

[00:27:35] he was just delusional like that's the thing it's like you can't really blame him like again

[00:27:41] he doesn't know what he's doing I feel like the words that come out of his mouth are just

[00:27:45] like they just randomly pop into his head and he says them and sometimes they're like genius

[00:27:50] and sometimes they're like hey I want to quit and then an hour later he'll be in confession

[00:27:54] and be like my plan to quit was all part of my strategy to really like yeah and so again like

[00:28:04] obviously that's not great but it's very different than Sean and Hannah

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[00:30:22] double standard of like listen being the one like lady here you know like I feel I I do

[00:30:30] feel like there's Q walks into this game with a certain privilege of like who he is you know

[00:30:35] and like people look at him and I think like I'm not like a huge Venus fan in this game you know

[00:30:42] like but she doesn't get the same sort of I know she's still here but people don't like really

[00:30:47] respect her I think in the same way that they do Q to a certain extent but she's like flying

[00:30:52] by the seat of her pants and like speaking her mind and saying it and walking into and trying

[00:30:56] to like own her game and be in control of her game and everyone's like we hate her you

[00:31:00] know and like every everyone's scared of Q and so I that frustrates me I think his behavior

[00:31:05] in the challenge was awful him like being all annoyed like well everyone except for one is

[00:31:11] gonna fall off the pole so like you can't say that just because people fell like damn we

[00:31:16] should have had rice you know it's like you can't that's like you're being hypocritical

[00:31:20] people are annoyed by Q but them being scared of I think could be a legitimate

[00:31:25] fear that if you cross Q you might not make it back to the states after the show

[00:31:30] well right not if you voted him out at this tribal then you don't have to ever be scared

[00:31:35] of Q ever again but here's the thing though I do want to elaborate on what Izzy is saying

[00:31:40] right and again this really has nothing to do with Q but for and let me know if I'm wrong

[00:31:46] but as a gay black man sometimes what I say people don't take heed to they don't hear it

[00:31:55] they don't respect it and I feel like similar to Venus although you might not agree with

[00:31:59] like what she's saying it's like when she says something like they just don't but when Q

[00:32:05] says it right wrong or indifferent people there's this respect or like that people tune in

[00:32:11] and they're like huh let like you know for instance the plus one alliance it's really not

[00:32:15] the plus one alliance it's the Q alliance oh I thought it was actually the legend 25 alliance

[00:32:21] that was anyway I think you guys are giving Q too much credit no but it's not Q yes I don't

[00:32:29] I understand what you mean by like the inherent difference in like the respect that maybe a big

[00:32:34] guy like Q was gonna get versus like a Venus but I think there are other factors at play

[00:32:40] and I also think Q does not give that much respect I mean we see Charlie time and time

[00:32:44] again basically make fun of him without him even realizing we see and also I think now that I think

[00:32:50] what we see from Q talking to the confessionals is a lot different than what people have seen

[00:32:55] throughout and maybe he's garnered respect from his like the game he has been playing

[00:32:59] but I think now after this tribal his game is completely shot I think he is going to be on

[00:33:04] sort of a Venus level if not lower where Tiffany now he blew up her idol situation she's

[00:33:11] gonna confront him people are gonna be like Q you try to quit like you're like the problem is Q

[00:33:16] comes in with such a force that you I feel like a lot of time you're just gonna like shake your

[00:33:20] head and agree but just because you're doing that doesn't actually mean you respect what he's

[00:33:24] saying and I think now that he's acted like this he's not going to get anyone's respect in

[00:33:27] the game or the jury I'm gonna have to disagree with you though because I feel like Venus comes

[00:33:31] with a force and people don't shake their head and agree with her and I'm not saying that I

[00:33:35] agree with Venus or not but I'm just saying like I just feel like there is a double standard

[00:33:39] but I think that it just speaks to society and again I'm not like condemning Q or anything I'm

[00:33:44] just saying like I it's just very interesting sure but I get what you're saying but at the

[00:33:50] same time and maybe this was like a more of a snowball effect but if I come to the merge

[00:33:54] and like if I'm a Charlie and Venus's whole tribe and maybe that's the root issue is

[00:34:00] Venus's initial tribe but if her whole tribe is just already discrediting her and she's

[00:34:05] sort of like a black sheep in the game then it's a lot easier to dislike to not because

[00:34:11] then strategically saying speaking it's like even if you start to if you start to work with

[00:34:15] her you might be on the outs and maybe that's that maybe that in a way speaks to the point

[00:34:19] that you're making but I think a lot of other play like I don't think this is a man

[00:34:25] like I get in the greater I'm not saying a man I'm specifically saying if you're asking

[00:34:29] like this a heterosexual man as opposed to a female and to a queer person to a gay queer

[00:34:36] man like we are not we we they don't hear us the same and I think this is a prime example

[00:34:42] because it's like you don't even be we make a sense and they're still willing to piece

[00:34:47] together this plan it do you think if Tevin were to say vote me out do you think I

[00:34:55] Kevin would have been fighting for right well I mean let's just like reverse it like I just think

[00:35:02] like if Tevin had pulled that at tribal I think it was a time where obviously this trouble he was

[00:35:08] the vote so I think people would have obliged yeah he was episode to go I like I think even

[00:35:14] this time Hunter would fight for him to stay I think other people would fight for him wasn't

[00:35:18] fighting for nothing I mean the whole episode to keep Tevin safe he went to he literally

[00:35:23] walked up to the groups before yeah that was another thing that confused me he walked up to

[00:35:28] who like okay mind you I love it again I want to say I agree with your point about like

[00:35:34] in a greater scheme but I think this Q Venus comparison is really bad because they're both

[00:35:39] I think they're both awful players so it's like how do you like what there's no baseline

[00:35:43] of like excuse me but I think there are things you can tie them together like okay

[00:35:48] bad players that's one thing they have in common another thing is like they're pretty

[00:35:52] like they're individually confident you know what I mean like they both have their own they

[00:35:56] bring their really playing their own game for the game and I think they're outspoken and

[00:36:03] say whatever they like I think I think in those ways they sort of act in the same kind of

[00:36:10] chaotic way like they would feel the same kind of chaotic piece on the chessboard in some ways

[00:36:16] but of course they're different because of the outside societal things that they bring to the

[00:36:21] game which all of us bring to the game I mean I felt that so hard on my season was just like

[00:36:26] feeling the otherness that was just never it was like talking to a brick wall sometimes it was

[00:36:31] like just not not hitting and then other people seemingly with like less coherent less sort of

[00:36:38] like I don't know strategic thinking or social thinking immediately of course of course of

[00:36:44] course you know like like I don't get it so that's more my issue like for your your guy

[00:36:51] I feel like in the defense of your argument I feel like using this as the example is actually

[00:36:56] a bad example to use because I agree with your point overall but I think QA now that he's behaved

[00:37:02] in this way his game is actually shot I don't think people are going to respect him going

[00:37:06] forward and then Venus also like yeah she's a smaller woman but the way that she we've seen

[00:37:10] that she just approaches people is also really not good so it's like you're not saying that

[00:37:15] that's the same way Q approaches people Q approaches people and I'm like oh my god like

[00:37:20] I clutch my pearl you know I think they come anyway we don't have to keep harping on the Venus

[00:37:24] we can you think I just um but no I hear your point and here's another thing like again

[00:37:30] we love Jack and Jack like we respect but I just sometimes I think there is a lived

[00:37:35] experience that maybe Izzy can that I just feel like I understand what what you're saying

[00:37:40] but I just have to say and again I just feel like it's hard to quantify and it's hard to

[00:37:47] like you know for other people to see but it exists and I think that this I think the Venus

[00:37:52] and Q are a great example and I don't think that they're necessarily horrible players I just

[00:37:58] think you know in this game of a lot of different personalities and a lot of different

[00:38:03] people it's just hard for them to play their game that they want to play how they want to

[00:38:09] play it when they want to play and who they want to play with and like you know I think

[00:38:12] that that ultimately is some of their downfalls is that like they want to play how they want to

[00:38:17] play with who they want to play with and how like it it can't go your way like you got to be open

[00:38:22] and flexible you know you got to be versatile and I do want to clarify before we move forward

[00:38:27] I agree with your argument that like certain people of certain demographics are going to gain

[00:38:31] kind of an inherent more respect to what they say I want to I want to like I don't want my

[00:38:39] pushback on this to be considered as like disagree with that I agree with that wholeheartedly

[00:38:44] but that's why my argument is just that this example I think they're both a mess and so

[00:38:48] that's why I think if you wanted to investigate it more thoroughly and like responsibly I think

[00:38:54] you would take maybe two good players and maybe one is like a heterosexual white man

[00:39:01] and one is like a gay woman of color and they're both really good players but maybe that

[00:39:05] that white man is getting more credit and we've seen that in the past even with like

[00:39:09] have you seen season 13 of big brother yeah I'm a I think that I think that that happens

[00:39:15] I think that that happens and that's why I'm agreeing what that's that's the better example

[00:39:18] to to analyze that because there's fewer like extraneous factors like their messy ass gameplay

[00:39:26] but I do think like especially on this season I would say like messy gameplay or just messy

[00:39:32] in whatever way you want to put it is actually like the majority of like of people and like

[00:39:37] what's happening on the beach and so you can't discredit that also as a as an element as a move

[00:39:43] in these games to be messy or chaotic you know can be for good so I just think like also

[00:39:49] ultimately like whether people are good or bad at this like yes it is mostly subjective right

[00:39:55] because it's all situational it's all like a lot of it is luck like imagine if Q was on

[00:40:00] season 45 right like all of that changes the dynamic of everything one person can change

[00:40:06] the dynamic of everything so um that the element of luck in terms of like who you're connecting

[00:40:11] with who you're cast with who you're playing you know what tribe you start on all of that

[00:40:16] is yeah even if the tribes started in different configurations I think we would see a very

[00:40:20] different merge also 100% I have a question if we are a tribe and I don't like Wendell

[00:40:33] and I want Wendell to get voted out and in my confessionals I say I want Wendell to get voted

[00:40:42] out uh but Izzy galvanizes Jack and says Jack we need to get Wendell out

[00:40:50] Jack Izzy me and they said they want to get Wendell and I'm like yes I've been wanting

[00:40:56] to get him out too and we get Wendell out whose move is that whose move is it that'll be Izzy's

[00:41:05] well okay I let me say I think about this a lot because I think about like um the fact that like

[00:41:13] you need people in this game like right I think it's true that like you need other people I

[00:41:17] need if I was gonna make that move I need Bryce already questioning Wendell like I need that to

[00:41:22] happen that's like part of it you don't know who's going to be sitting in the final three so

[00:41:26] I think once you get to three who can claim certain things starts to become really clear

[00:41:31] because if I'm not there I think Bryce probably can claim a lot of it giving me credit would

[00:41:37] give you my jury vote for sure but like you know I think I was kind of annoyed by in seemingly

[00:41:43] the pettiness of already trying to have a need of like claiming the move because like

[00:41:49] it's all just about how you contextualize your argument and your mission statement at

[00:41:53] final tribal you know and so I actually thought I was like annoyed I'm like annoyed

[00:41:58] at the editing of like we have so much time for editing and it's all just like

[00:42:03] not really strategic stuff ultimately you know I thought it was really interesting

[00:42:09] bit of editing because I think it's very rare that we see these like open debates over like

[00:42:15] whose move is who right and that's such a part of survivor that it's never that clear and so

[00:42:21] I feel like this was a nice example where we have Venus we have Tevin we have Liz

[00:42:26] all sort of grappling over this idea of like who is the person that voted out Soda so I was I don't

[00:42:33] know maybe I'm misinterpreting what you said but I was happy to see that debate and I think that

[00:42:37] debate on Tevin's part maybe pushed Liz over the edge and he's not trying to be like oh it was

[00:42:42] me can you believe it was me can you believe she's saying that it was me and Liz is like

[00:42:45] I hate this guy like he's gonna run this whole thing I gotta get rid of you know like

[00:42:49] that's absolutely true yeah yeah and that speak to me again y'all know I love Tevin

[00:42:55] Tevin is shout out to Tevin I think he's amazing I truly crawled so that a Tevin could fly right

[00:43:04] but ultimately what it came down in Tevin's game in my opinion is the one quintessential rule

[00:43:10] and survivor when you get comfortable and I think that Tevin with everything that everyone

[00:43:16] has said about him he's charismatic he's funny he's in the know I think that because he was

[00:43:23] in that plus one alliance because he had Hunter he just assumed certain things and I think that

[00:43:30] it would have been kept a little tighter to the chest about like his outburst about Venus like

[00:43:36] what is she talking about like I really felt like that's a conversation that you should

[00:43:39] have specifically and only with Hunter because what you don't realize because you are so

[00:43:45] comfortable and you think that everyone is like with you outside of Venus like you've alienated

[00:43:51] a Liz who now like Liz might not have much uh agency in the game but that little gripe that

[00:44:01] she now has with you and so I think that that's where Tevin messed up in the sense that like he

[00:44:04] just got so comfortable and felt as though everyone was on his side when really it's like

[00:44:10] only one person could win and I think that that's really where Tevin kind of his one flaw

[00:44:15] in the game was yeah that was an opportunity to pull Liz closer and say like hey this was

[00:44:21] our move like we did this together and I do think I agree with him saying like to Liz she's taking

[00:44:28] credit for my move if I'm Liz even though like the question you posed Bryce I don't really think

[00:44:33] it was Liz's move just because you want someone out for a long time if you're not the one to

[00:44:36] pull the numbers together it's not really your move it's a move that works for you which is

[00:44:41] a very important part of the game because not every move needs to be your move but what Izzy

[00:44:46] said though it don't really matter if you get to the end every but this way you need to have

[00:44:51] the Q mentality and every move is your move and so it's like I received that so well not every

[00:44:57] move but I'm just saying like I receive what you're saying Izzy so much because it's like

[00:45:01] it's almost like take your ego out of it like let's be working together as a group if we all

[00:45:05] put in 50 cent 50 cent 50 cent 50 cent and we got two dollars and we get an ice cream

[00:45:10] you know the ice cream is eventually going to melt and so like

[00:45:21] but it but if it's a car we all can utilize the car and we might kick somebody out but

[00:45:28] you know what I'm saying like it yeah I received that so much I have something to say about

[00:45:32] that actually also Bryce I'll this is a pose a question to the squad is like if you're on

[00:45:37] the jury and you're hearing you know Bryce is sitting there final tribal and we're talking

[00:45:43] about this and maybe I was involved in the Wendell vote Bryce was involved Jack was

[00:45:47] involved in the Wendell vote like as a jury wouldn't you want the person to be like yeah

[00:45:53] I agree with that plan I wanted that plan I had been thinking about it before and I took

[00:45:57] the bait Izzy initiated it and I helped get those numbers like including people on the jury

[00:46:04] in things that have happened I that would make me as a jury member be like yep yep that's my

[00:46:10] guy that's my guy you know because it's like you have to find ways of giving you can't just like

[00:46:14] be like all of these trucks and I'm sitting here and this is why I was it's like no this

[00:46:19] was collaborative and all these things helped you because now you're sitting six not nine

[00:46:24] and like this helped me because I'm sitting here and that's why I should win because that

[00:46:28] also shows that I played a social game and I listened to Bryce you know like and all these

[00:46:33] things and I Q is just missing that like I don't know if we if we can get back to this like plus

[00:46:39] one alliance but it's like Q do you not see that you live on hypocrisy hill like

[00:46:47] like you're mad that people are mentioning names and then you're just like but if you go

[00:46:50] against the six and meanwhile you're naming people where's Tim where's you know like

[00:46:55] where's Tim where's Tiff you know like what happened to Tiffany like what's going on

[00:47:00] right that's not real like why would anyone think that Tim went against the six first

[00:47:06] it's true well anything right when he got to emerge like or Tim but like well so I want

[00:47:14] to backtrack to what you were just saying about like I think that is also such a good debate

[00:47:18] that we're seeing of like the jury man like for Liz right like kind of like you said Bryce

[00:47:24] you might all be in the same car but if Liz is the one who's driving it at the end

[00:47:27] how do you express your role in that car along the way and so here's where you're like

[00:47:34] there's such a balance Izzy that I think you highlighted of you you want to give credit you

[00:47:39] don't want to be like this was my move this was my move because then people in the jury are

[00:47:42] gonna be like that was like kind of my move that's that's weird that you take credit for

[00:47:45] it but at the same time you also can't be like yet this was all this was all Tevin

[00:47:50] and I kind of just agreed with it and thought hey I want to know what I'm saying

[00:47:54] you I'm not saying that for a player it's a hard balance because it's like so Liz needs to take some

[00:47:59] credit but for Tevin and even a Venus maybe she ends up on the jury it's like what like how do you

[00:48:05] you're like okay I worked with them to do this what it's like for Liz how do you take a little

[00:48:10] bit of credit in the most healthy way possible is it sort of like hey I was wanting soda out

[00:48:15] I knew at the time I didn't have that agency like Tevin did so I tried to like maybe plant

[00:48:19] some seeds for Tevin and push that narrative a little bit maybe that's the answer but it is I

[00:48:24] don't know the answer it is a very interesting line that we haven't really seen shown at least

[00:48:29] this early in the game of like okay you can't take all the credit but you can't like give too

[00:48:34] much credit already in some ways anyway but I I disagree with you a little bit Jack and I think

[00:48:43] Izzy you hit the head on the nail uh or whatever I know you don't know how I do it but like

[00:48:53] oh that's why I love Izzy but here's the thing right like I think like you're right if you're

[00:48:59] sitting there at the jury if you're sitting there speaking to the jury what better way to

[00:49:04] get a Liz on your side and to say it's my vote or if you just say like Liz I went with

[00:49:11] I went with Liz's plan to get off Venus it she swayed me like bring them along on the journey

[00:49:16] and again sometimes here we go again talking about a James Jones because every episode I

[00:49:21] got to bring up a James Jones but James Jones says this a lot where it's like he always says

[00:49:24] at the end it's storytelling and it's not really like what you did if you can captivate

[00:49:32] the jury name drop do what Tim did my mama my auntie my grandma my aunt you know what

[00:49:38] I mean like name drop all of these people in your story of how you were able to well but

[00:49:42] okay can I can I can I can I love it this episode can I expand on this Bryce a little bit

[00:49:48] because I think it's like I'm I I miss seeing people sort of have like their mission statement

[00:49:54] of how they're going to play the game and that doesn't mean that that doesn't come with

[00:49:57] flexibility and like floating around but it's like if you can sit at tribal it's not about

[00:50:02] like here are my five moves it's like this was ultimately my assessing who I'm playing the game

[00:50:09] with and where the relationships are this was going to be my role and based on that role

[00:50:14] this move made sense and that move made sense and it was all connecting back to my thesis

[00:50:19] statement right it's like you're writing an essay at the end and if all of your arguments

[00:50:23] don't support why the way that you played the game whether it was passive or in control or a

[00:50:30] comp beast like if all your moves don't connect to that then it's like willy-nilly and it's just

[00:50:35] like I don't know becomes less meaningful it becomes less narrative it becomes less

[00:50:41] of a journey and I think we're seeing at tribal especially in this new era we're looking for

[00:50:45] journeys at the end you know so I think I just like so much time was spent on this one

[00:50:50] goddamn thing that ultimately then became Q's bow like he kind of stole the thunder from

[00:50:55] everyone like no one's getting this no one's getting credit for this other than Q maybe

[00:50:59] you know like um and so yeah I was like yeah Q. I also love when everything is happening

[00:51:08] and then Tiffany goes to Q and she's like what are you doing he's like they was mentioning

[00:51:14] your name I he's like like and so he's like I was trying to take the heat off of you uh

[00:51:23] and by they I was like but again he didn't lie though that's what I say Q didn't lie

[00:51:29] Tiffany's like what you doing? He was mentioning your name. He mentioned her name first

[00:51:35] but that's the that's the Q-ism like I think like he can spin never trust people that speak

[00:51:41] in riddles you know like he's one of those that like semi speaks in riddles like you

[00:51:45] could read between the lines you know like and yeah so I got a question for you guys how far

[00:51:50] can Q make it? I was wondering not until yesterday you know yeah I don't know now how far can Q

[00:51:57] make it? I would venture to say he's not the next target up on anybody's list.

[00:52:04] Yeah there's a world where I could see that they target Tiffany before they target him

[00:52:07] because it is more idle. Unfortunately yeah I worry that he could slide into that slot where

[00:52:14] it's like you become chaotic enough that people are convinced you're never going to

[00:52:18] win and then you some might slip into the goat position but actually you're still

[00:52:22] want to be in control like I could see a scary path for Q to the end in some ways.

[00:52:27] You know like y'all want to bring it around goats?

[00:52:33] It's like you're scared of someone that said Aubrey was their favorite player I love Aubrey she

[00:52:37] was robbed rob queen but like you're scared of the person that said Aubrey is your favorite

[00:52:41] player but he was like you don't want to bring it. He's scared of you.

[00:52:49] Sorry but Q was like he was he scared everything like he was if you if you hide well and hide

[00:52:56] and see he big mistake now let's talk about that though right because also shout out to

[00:53:05] the revolutionary way of a young creator has taken hold of how they predict people's future

[00:53:13] in the game. I thought Q's commentary and Venus's commentary on people playing the game

[00:53:19] I thought was excellent honestly and although I love Hunter listen I am a I am a dove

[00:53:31] in a cage waiting for Hunter to let me fly free like okay I love Hunter right but I really

[00:53:40] do feel like specifically with Hunter and seeing where he hid right I almost feel like because

[00:53:49] Hunter has practiced so much to be on this game of survivor uh I almost feel like Hunter

[00:53:59] feels like he's in assimilation and not the actual game of survivor right because it's like

[00:54:04] he's almost like so equipped so great for it but we see in this vote he kind of sort of was

[00:54:11] left out then he said he's gonna like cause a go cause a ruckus and like he just walks off

[00:54:17] with Q like I don't know I just feel like I am worried for Hunter I think that he is so

[00:54:23] equipped I think that he can win the game I just he has everything to win the game but I feel like

[00:54:29] he might be getting a little lost definitely do you think he understands strategy like do you think

[00:54:35] he like like if he was like if he was left in charge like let's just say you know like let's

[00:54:39] say if like people were sort of giving him the leadership role you think he would really

[00:54:44] be yes I think he understands I think he's equipped and like yes he can climb a tree

[00:54:49] yes we've seen you know yes he can win a comp you know that doesn't impress me that much you know

[00:54:53] so I think he navigated the pre-merge with a lot of like strategic

[00:54:59] no like like when he had Tevin and he had a crew yeah and well also

[00:55:09] so how good is Hunter you know I'm just you know that's all

[00:55:13] so that he understood that that would open up his relationship with Tevin more and

[00:55:17] things like that I think I think he's fine again I think this episode drops his stock a lot

[00:55:22] but I don't think he's like a dumb like just a cop he has some chops but I think when he is the

[00:55:29] when the pressure is on for him to like make a big play like it was to save Tevin it wasn't

[00:55:33] his moment and then I agree with you Bryce as ridiculous as the hide and seek was there was

[00:55:38] some truth to like if someone's gonna go this hard for hide and seek they're gonna go

[00:55:42] really hard for a million dollars it's kind of is the same in the challenge when he hangs

[00:55:46] upside down at the end it's like you don't need to be doing all that you know but you can

[00:55:52] you can how much do you want to bet he was in his basement off the banister practicing for that

[00:55:58] like I'ma show Jeff that I could well yeah and that's great and he won immunity and we had a

[00:56:03] messy tribal and his closest ally went home oh yeah his stock went down a lot I don't think

[00:56:10] he has a good chance to win at all but I just had to push back on you saying that he

[00:56:15] has no strategic chop because I think he does well I don't think we've seen like I feel like

[00:56:19] we haven't seen it yet like it's like the image that I'm getting from like how they're

[00:56:23] portraying hunters like I'm not sure if that element is there that's all you're probably

[00:56:27] right he's not gonna like guide any big plays I feel like I mean this was an opportunity

[00:56:31] he could have played an idol for Tevin too that was like he could have he could have but

[00:56:35] also it's like we know that uh Hunter's game he's been downplaying it like he has said that

[00:56:41] to us and again that's what I'm saying it's like I feel like he is playing so hard in this

[00:56:46] simulation that he is forgetting that like baby boy you I need to see you in action however

[00:56:52] with all of these big personalities arising I think that Hunter is actually in a really good

[00:56:58] spot because these big personalities that of the Q of the Tevins of the Tiffany's of the uh who

[00:57:08] else is there like of the the Charlies like I feel like there are a lot of people at Venus that

[00:57:13] like people are going to want to go after them and with Hunter just in a tree chilling like I

[00:57:18] think that like when the time for him to emerge down uh I think that he is still in a position

[00:57:25] to be good but I just need for him to just come down off the tree a little bit

[00:57:30] we got like three days left right so once you're gonna do it like

[00:57:32] is he leave my Hunter alone no I think he I think now losing Tevin he's not going to be at the top

[00:57:39] of anyone's radar for a minute and he is very good in these challenges he could go on a run

[00:57:43] but I agree I do agree ultimately is he like he is gonna have to step up strategically and

[00:57:48] that's gonna be the question of like I think he has it in him but is he gonna be able to

[00:57:53] take because we saw him try to maneuver this plan to save Tevin and it wasn't the cleanest

[00:57:58] attempt so um that that's sort of where I'm at with him and I would say he's cool with Q

[00:58:03] and now Q is kind of all over the place too so it really Hunter's gonna need to be able to bounce

[00:58:09] back for sure Hunter's gotta be Tiff and Kenzie's new like you know like Comp Beast guy you

[00:58:15] know like replace Q with Hunter yeah anyway yeah I uh go ahead I was gonna say uh we've we've

[00:58:24] covered a lot of the chaos of the episode I do want to talk about the challenge a little bit and

[00:58:28] we have this this rice negotiation where the first time in the new era where they do not come

[00:58:36] to an agreement and and Jeff said hard set it hard you need four people to sit out or

[00:58:43] you could have two people sit out and they lose their votes and Q and Liz were willing

[00:58:47] to sit out seemed like nobody was really willing to give up their vote of course yeah

[00:58:52] of course yeah I'm glad he's yeah I hate the like taking away of the vote the vote is like the

[00:58:58] only currency you have and if people are not voting like what is this game who cares it's

[00:59:03] like you know it's like decided by luck anyway I hate the dangling the taking away the vote

[00:59:08] what do we think about I mean Jeff had to give them something right I loved Q where Charlie

[00:59:15] was like all right if somebody else is willing to step up with me I'll step up and here go Q

[00:59:21] you need nobody to step up just come to the front and then listen if Jeff say no we'll all

[00:59:27] come to the back but it's like I love like but no because you're like no but it kind of

[00:59:34] sort of made sense though uh and Charlie almost fell for it I just I thought that it

[00:59:39] was just so interesting I mean I just think once again Q's behavior before and after the

[00:59:45] during the challenge the whole challenge was just like if that was anyone else that acted

[00:59:50] like that they they would have gone tonight no matter what happened to tribal I also think

[00:59:54] it's funny that I think that Q knew that this was not his challenge so it's like let me let

[00:59:58] me let me get people to sit down so that we can get some rice but I guess and I don't know

[01:00:04] Wendell you've played the most games out of all of us um being in the game this far being

[01:00:11] this famished how important is a little bit of rice on your belly that's a lot when you

[01:00:17] were at exile island like what like how what would that have done for you do you think it

[01:00:23] would have been able it helps a lot okay we need to think the answer is yes but go ahead and ask

[01:00:29] the question the answer yes think if you had rights you would have been able to beat natalie

[01:00:36] in that challenge damn rice so I already answered that question but in ghost island

[01:00:43] I'll tell you what when we negotiated for rice and they took our whole shelter in like the

[01:00:49] towards the end of the season that rice helped us out a lot and he we had plenty rice for

[01:00:55] the rest of this year we we can eat as much rice as we wanted and um your boy won the game

[01:01:00] with some rice thank you bryce I will say shorter game though I don't know do you think

[01:01:06] the shorter game affects that window like Tim you know like I don't know I'm just curious

[01:01:10] because yeah with the shorter game I still like they're still out there starving for however long

[01:01:16] how long have you been out there like eight days now that's what I'm saying they've been

[01:01:20] there for like a day and a half they got some rewards too that sprinkled in you get some food

[01:01:27] I mean obviously would be great to have rice I don't know personally if I would ever the

[01:01:31] only time I would ever sit out is like if it's a challenge that I know for a fact I'm not

[01:01:36] going to win um but again I'm not going to take Q's position and like knock people who want to

[01:01:41] compete and also I would never ever give up my vote for some rice um I thought they were going

[01:01:47] to be like I thought Jeff was maybe going to say okay Q and Liz are two people standing here

[01:01:53] we can take you know like did he did he I can't remember if he said like okay you two could

[01:01:57] lose your vote and we could be done right now I think they like brought it up and they're

[01:02:00] like I don't know if it was they stepped up not under the assumption of like losing the

[01:02:04] vote it was more like right now if it's four people to to get some rice how many people need

[01:02:11] to sit out for them to win some rice oh is that you think you would sit out for some rice

[01:02:18] I would hope I would hope Hunter would

[01:02:23] and then I thought it was so funny at the end Charlie right before he drops he's like Jeff

[01:02:27] I got you right where I want you two bags of rice Charlie is so funny he's definitely my

[01:02:35] downer on this season I'm like stop talking about Taylor Swift I don't care

[01:02:40] I love it a question for the group uh at next tribal if Tiffany is not if she doesn't win

[01:02:48] immunity does she need to play her idol or should she try to risk it to live another day

[01:02:56] I think a lot I don't know because obviously the fallout of this

[01:02:59] yeah be crazy who knows who's gonna be the target but what I will say is I feel like

[01:03:03] especially in the new era when someone's idol actually becomes like common knowledge

[01:03:09] it actually takes a target off of them in a sense because everyone is now worried that they

[01:03:13] could play an idol and so they just sort of don't shift the target onto them I think

[01:03:18] that's happened a few times I mean it happened with Austin it happened with Zander uh it could

[01:03:24] happen it's happened with some other people too I'm just thinking about my you Chicago homies

[01:03:28] but um it is like if you like someone well enough and they have an idol and they know

[01:03:34] that everyone knows that they have an idol so they might play it it's sort of like how do

[01:03:38] you ever hatch that plan with the numbers being this size to really pull off a blind

[01:03:43] side it could be very difficult so I think Tiffany will be able to get her feedback under

[01:03:48] her and be okay if Q wins immunity next episode which is a huge chance where do you

[01:03:55] think who's getting votes I mean it seems to be it seems like anyone is fair game to him so

[01:04:05] like I like I'm having trouble like usually I like like questions like that I like because

[01:04:10] it's like you you know how you learn how people think or react what the hell is Q

[01:04:15] gonna do like anyone at any point can become the target maybe like I think a Liz could

[01:04:20] get votes in because she sort of arrived last episode but it doesn't seem like she actually

[01:04:25] has that many close allies but now she's just organized this move to take out Tevin

[01:04:30] and in the newer era especially we see a lot of like okay you're the person who steps up and

[01:04:33] makes a move now you're the new target you get cut off and so I think it could be a Liz

[01:04:39] or it could be like a Ben because Ben is very social and but he's not really tied in

[01:04:45] about yeah and and Ben you know he hid well in hide and seek so you know I mean if you could

[01:04:51] hide well in this game so how does that equate like I was just sitting there being like how

[01:04:59] does that equate like I've put enough leaves over my body which means I'm gonna be the

[01:05:03] ultimate deceiver you know it's just like ah the logic is insane what's the thing is I

[01:05:08] didn't directly disagree with anything that Venus or or Q concluded from the right I think there's

[01:05:14] some truth to it but it is insane for Q like to be like you put leaves over you big mistake

[01:05:22] that's a mistake right it was the funniest thing about Q is that everybody in his eyes

[01:05:28] is um is a is a f up and so if everyone's making so many mistakes and he's like target

[01:05:34] target target target target nobody's really a target because everyone is just a screw up

[01:05:41] but it's also how he's saying that go you know you didn't mess that he said hey but

[01:05:49] just on a blue shirt cancel christmas right no you're not cancel christmas but here is

[01:05:57] another thing right hot take I the way that Q is willing to turn on his alliance hear me out

[01:06:07] I think that some people could take notes on right I do feel like sometimes in this new era

[01:06:14] especially I think of like James Jones's season where it's like people like you're just going

[01:06:20] with the status quo I'm not mad at some of the outlandish or like the way that Q is so

[01:06:26] easily like hey I could turn on like I'm not mad at that I do think that there is something good

[01:06:31] about that and that like players can utilize that where it's like it's not just we're taking out

[01:06:37] the numbers like we kind of like feel where people are at so it's like I'm not mad at the

[01:06:41] way Q kind of just jump ship from person to person to person uh I think that that can be

[01:06:47] helpful well and I think to your point about going back and not to dive too much about why

[01:06:52] people are giving Q so much respect and I think a lot of that is a facade a mass agency I would say

[01:07:00] yeah yeah for me I think that Q has actually shown to be a very very loyal player until

[01:07:10] you give him any reason to think that you're not loyal and so for someone like a Charlie

[01:07:17] who's just been brought in even though you know that everything Q is saying is ridiculous

[01:07:22] I think the best thing you could do is just nod your head yes agree and make him feel good

[01:07:26] because you see that Q if someone happens to bring up something that goes against Q's plan at all

[01:07:32] that's when he turns on you full force like he does with Tiffany which is not good gameplay

[01:07:38] necessarily but for me if I'm out there I'm like okay Q is just a loose cannon but if he

[01:07:43] thinks that I'm with him he will be loyal and so you just have to fake it to him and be like

[01:07:49] Q I'm with you and then just let that ride but it doesn't mean you respect what he's saying it's

[01:07:55] just like how do you win Q over but what if you lie to him and say Charlie name and Charlie name

[01:07:59] say nothing like that that's the problem with it though lie to him how like say if Wendell

[01:08:04] says to Q that you said something you and Q are locked in you didn't say nothing but like

[01:08:10] Wendell just says well you know Jack said your name cancel Christmas when Kevin went to Q

[01:08:16] Q does have weird strokes of sanity like when Kevin went to Q to be like hey Tiffany is a little

[01:08:24] bit suspect about like she wants to keep Venus around Q then goes to Tiffany and says who do

[01:08:29] who do you have your eyes on and then she throws out Maria tips but then that was a test

[01:08:35] like he didn't actually have a conversation with him he was like oh she said Maria I'm not

[01:08:38] even gonna engage in asking why or being like I'm not saying that it's it's a good

[01:08:44] move but he did do his research with Tiffany to see hey is she gonna throw out someone in the six

[01:08:52] when you are just with you just can't test people like you just can't be out here like

[01:08:57] Izzy what time is it right is he what time is it I have no idea we're on a beach

[01:09:04] are we leaving for Chicago uh as soon as the airplane allows us that's a mistake

[01:09:11] Jack who name a perfume Dior that's a mistake like for me it's like if you're just constantly

[01:09:20] testing your alliance where's the conversation because in the end we see Tiffany go to him

[01:09:26] and if she's really against you she's saying hey you should probably write Tevin's name down

[01:09:32] because if they see you not writing his name down there like so it's like okay here here's

[01:09:38] the thing I'm with you I don't think he's strategy is good I'm just saying like him turning on

[01:09:45] Tiffany is such a bad idea but I'm going back to the reason as to why people are appease him so

[01:09:53] much is because you see how volatile he is and if you think that he is if but we have seen

[01:10:00] that if he thinks you are loyal to him and his plan of the six then he's not going to

[01:10:05] turn on you until he has a reason right yeah yeah wait okay I want to ask this question to

[01:10:09] Wendell right now because it's pertinent I feel like after all this like I get what you're

[01:10:14] saying it was the same on Big Brother like you sit for the live episode and everyone knows what

[01:10:18] they're voting like the goodbye met you know like your last speech means nothing right

[01:10:23] everyone knows what they're voting but if you were sitting at that tribal would that be a

[01:10:29] type of tribal that would like would you bring in yeah like if if you were going into that

[01:10:35] tribal and you're like okay yeah I'm in on the Tevin plan Q does his thing you've been feeling

[01:10:40] weird with you because I think everyone's got their weird you know things sensing his volatility

[01:10:45] his like all of this would that be a type of tribal that would change your mind like

[01:10:51] because you were saying like nah people go and like that's why Tevin ultimately went but

[01:10:54] I'm curious like that seemed wild that things didn't change after that I think a Q is tied into

[01:11:01] so many people's plans right now at least short-term plans I think if we think about

[01:11:06] last season who did it Sean did it um when he like like vote for me and I think Dee was

[01:11:13] like I'm gonna still vote the way I wanted to vote like you could want to go home but my

[01:11:18] plans are but I'm not saying like about honoring his wishes I don't give a fuck about

[01:11:23] his wishes but I mean like in the terms of like do you think it like you really y'all really

[01:11:29] don't think it would it benefits everyone else on the tribe for them to have voted Q out last

[01:11:34] night what what I'm saying is this like no matter what if I'm sitting there I think a

[01:11:40] Tevin is more of a threat than than Q hold on bright I agree I agree with you in in my game

[01:11:47] and I've said this every week now I prayed with a Q type of a character in Chris Noble

[01:11:52] and I knew he was going to bring sorry is he they've been eating him up in the comments

[01:12:03] every episode he brings him up this is this is the kind of person that if you don't cut off

[01:12:09] his momentum he's gonna get as far as Q got and have all of these things and all these

[01:12:14] people attach him in our case we were trying to get this guy for a long time and we finally

[01:12:18] got him at the merge but at the merge he corralled everyone except for Dom and myself

[01:12:23] and almost had them vote for us like these players they're so they're like they're

[01:12:30] they're dominant players as far as like they can talk to you and just like you kind of

[01:12:35] just like want to be like all right bud and in in this case with Q I think I think we're

[01:12:43] at a point now where people are like all right Q is kind of a little kooky a little bit but

[01:12:50] he's part of my plan right now he's not threatening my plan and okay he wants to go home right now

[01:12:56] and if you ask me I think he wanted to go home to kind of do something noble because he

[01:13:01] understood that he messed up a lot of his allies games but at that point if I'm if he

[01:13:08] was part of my plan I'm like nah bro you're just doing a little kooky thing right now

[01:13:13] we're gonna sleep on this and we're gonna reconvene so I don't know if after that like

[01:13:18] I could ever feel like he was a part of my thing yeah you can't feel like you can really

[01:13:26] trust them whatever but I'd rather get this more imminent threat out right now and

[01:13:31] worry about a Q later okay yes yeah it's just well I think we think I think we really see

[01:13:37] it differently because which is okay it's just wild because I don't see Tevin corralling

[01:13:41] anyone the fact that Q can corral people to me is more of an imminent threat than Tevin but yeah

[01:13:48] yeah I I get what you're saying for sure but now if you have kind of tanked his game so

[01:13:54] you get out Tevin who actually has hasn't like win win potential now it's like Q as

[01:14:00] maybe and maybe there's a reason to cut him out because he's so chaotic but it's like

[01:14:04] you cut out Tevin who could win but you keep a Q who like probably can't win and maybe if

[01:14:10] he's kind of on your side then that gives you more options going forward a question

[01:14:17] what you say when I said but Q is Tony everything is intentional and he's gonna win

[01:14:24] that is true damn who will take credit for Tevin going home literally no one no one deserves

[01:14:32] credit but you know in truth but here's the thing though this is also why y'all can say

[01:14:39] whatever y'all want to say about Venus's game but her arc in this season eats down like for

[01:14:49] her to be at the back of her tribe them not really wanting to work with her for her to be

[01:14:54] on the merge and to say that boom boom she goes out two people like I just feel like Venus

[01:15:01] is going to come back to that trap Venus is going to come back and she gonna be on top of

[01:15:06] the world like y'all ain't gonna be able to like I just feel like Venus is gonna be like

[01:15:11] what y'all want to do now who should we like I don't know I just feel like but there's something

[01:15:17] that I admire about her her cockiness her like grittiness and y'all can say whatever

[01:15:22] y'all want to say about her gameplay but I'm just speaking as like a gay that wants to love

[01:15:30] a legendary queen out here it's like I want to give it to Venus because she is just

[01:15:37] the way that Venus went up to Tevin and was like hey we ain't really been working together

[01:15:44] but like you try and get on the money team or not like you try to get on the winning like

[01:15:48] just the way that she gave him advice was hilarious advice like you don't really understand

[01:15:54] the strategic component of this game Tevin but I can teach you

[01:16:00] like come come with mother like but there's just something about that like again I

[01:16:05] people get bogged down in the the strategic of it all but for me

[01:16:11] I mean she's so fun like yeah I don't I think her gameplay is really messy but I actually like

[01:16:16] this episode her ability to just be like someone comes here with a plan and she's like

[01:16:21] okay that works for me I'm down and then like leave it there like that was a good episode for

[01:16:25] Venus as much as I knock her gameplay overall she does have good strategic instincts and she

[01:16:31] is really a force of driving entertainment so she's a great presence on the season like no

[01:16:36] doubt for me I empathize with her I feel I like really felt um for her pre-merge when

[01:16:43] it just felt at least you know I'm curious to know what really it was like on the beach

[01:16:48] but like from what we saw it felt very much like she was just begging people to engage with her

[01:16:54] and they just weren't which to me is bad survivor on their part you know what I mean like how

[01:16:59] dare you not just be at least cordial or have conversations with people even if ultimately

[01:17:05] it's a bullshit conversation or you don't want to work with them like that's fine they

[01:17:09] shouldn't know that right I mean so I do feel like Venus is like coming into her like

[01:17:15] perfect like resurrected like villain era where she's like I don't give a fuck y'all

[01:17:22] fuck about me and so guess what I don't like that you're talking over there and I'm gonna

[01:17:25] walk there because there's no rules so like I'm gonna stand right here you know like

[01:17:29] I really feel like uh Venus is in her when Miley Cyrus turned black for like that era

[01:17:34] and like you know I feel like that's where Venus is right now and you like what wishes

[01:17:39] okay like right but was wrecking ball not a jam okay like did my like I'm just saying like I

[01:17:45] I receive it also uh on another level right I do feel like I can confidently say after these

[01:17:53] episodes right like uh Charlie and Dr. Maria like I'm still like I still have Kenzie as my

[01:18:06] winner pick however after this episode and seeing Dr. Maria and Charlie and just like

[01:18:12] the episode or just the scenes where they were kind of like discussing things and like how they

[01:18:16] should move forward and different stuff it just really got me seeing Dr. Maria like she's

[01:18:20] moving like a winner Charlie has always been moving like a winner in my opinion so it's

[01:18:24] like it's really kind of like the big three but I do feel like that conversation that they

[01:18:31] had was the most um tangible sort of long-term like real they were working together like they

[01:18:38] you can feel that they actually are allies that they that they are partners in this and

[01:18:43] that I love to see like that I feel like that element I feel like I'm you know like missing

[01:18:48] from this season or something you know a little bit you know they were crisis managing

[01:18:53] right and again like managing the crisis but long term not just dealing with the crisis

[01:18:59] in itself and so I uh I enjoy seeing that yeah same what anything else you got Jack

[01:19:08] no just just taking it all in I was it was a wild episode is like there's so much going on

[01:19:13] in my mind but I think we covered everything pretty well and I'm really excited to see where

[01:19:18] things move from here because things are for sure ramping up all right so I do have another

[01:19:22] question oh no so Jack I think earlier in the episode you said something about Q's game like

[01:19:30] he doesn't really know what he's doing he's so chaotic and this and that

[01:19:35] should there be a justice for bandu hashtag oh uh in what in what sense I'm just saying

[01:19:44] like if all of the the the the adjectives that you use to describe Q's gameplay and I

[01:19:50] felt like were a lot of adjectives that people had for bond like he doesn't know what he's doing

[01:19:55] he's out here like you know y'all say oh bono just spilled the beans Q spilled the beans

[01:20:00] about his closest ally this episode Q going back and forth like I don't know like it

[01:20:06] well I think I think obviously you know Q his whole plan when he was coaching bono

[01:20:12] was to give bono misinformation so bonny would tank his own game uh no I mean I

[01:20:17] think bonny was a mess and getting coaching from Q was it the blind leading the blind

[01:20:23] yeah it was the blind hitting the blind well I think a little don't you think like a little

[01:20:27] bit of is a little bit of it is optics like we've been talking about where like

[01:20:32] I think Q and bono both are emotional players right like they both are like reactionary and

[01:20:38] like emotional but bonu bono's emotions came out in a more like teary more like oh for

[01:20:45] lack of a better word like a pathetic kind of like you just like want to you want to

[01:20:50] swaddle him or something you know you want to like take care of him and Q's comes out in

[01:20:54] a more like defensive sort of like macho way and so unfortunately I think like from the optics

[01:21:01] of that bonu is going to get screwed every time and Q is going to get put on a pedestal

[01:21:06] you know in some way so I guess in that way I could put a little justice for bono I

[01:21:10] mean justice for yanu just like just yesterday just for yanu you know and here's my jerry

[01:21:18] springer last thought right as to why I am not mad at Q Q has been Q since day one

[01:21:28] we just like he been out here he been killing people he been a murderer since day one we

[01:21:34] just didn't recognize the signs because like look how he switched on jelinski and I said that on

[01:21:40] the first episode it's like I know you want to get rid of jelinski because you said like he's

[01:21:44] weak we can't trust him but I'm like but I still feel like you can and and and and Z Q after

[01:21:52] that second episode Q came back and said he was quitting in when he was laying out on a

[01:21:56] thing like here's the thing like where everyone's like so surprised but Q has really been Q this

[01:22:01] whole time and I just don't think that we wanted to believe it and so again for this episode it

[01:22:07] did something for me in Q where it's like he's been Q we just like he's almost been like

[01:22:16] what's the opposite of hiding a plain sight like it's like you're not even hiding like

[01:22:21] again that was the test he's like play hard and seek but I don't want you to hide

[01:22:27] if there's no seek but I mean that's why that's why it's like yeah maybe I don't even fault Q

[01:22:33] that much anymore at this point because of his consistency but I fault all other nine people

[01:22:40] that's who I'm faulting and again to Q's point mistake must everybody making a mistake but Q

[01:22:49] Wow. Hashtag mistake this season is mistake.

[01:22:55] I whenever I don't listen to a lot of exit interviews like live but whenever Q gives his

[01:23:02] exit interview as the winner or whenever he goes I cannot wait to tune into that to hear Q's story

[01:23:11] because I just feel like who was it President Carter or President Nixon the fireside chats

[01:23:17] because I want to tune in to like to hear Q we need a Q deep dive on on survivor news curve ball

[01:23:27] yeah I'm ultimately I'm sad Tevin ended up going because I thought there was a lot more

[01:23:34] from him that I wanted to see and yeah he's the one the game flowers because he was so fun

[01:23:41] such a great narrator a sharp player and I hope we get some more Tevin because I really thought

[01:23:47] he was going to go farther in the game we were going to see him really rise to the occasion but

[01:23:52] I thought Tevin could have won so yeah and I you know the I don't know maybe this is like

[01:23:57] it's like I don't want to bring it up it's like how do we bring it up with last minutes

[01:24:00] or whatever but I'm not happy with Tim Soda Tevin boom boom boom I'm not like I'm not happy

[01:24:08] about it you know so after making history I know and I know and actually when I when I when I like

[01:24:15] read the first tweet that said I was like oh snap like this is fucking epic this is true

[01:24:20] that my first I hate that my gut instinct was damn I think it's not this is not going to be

[01:24:25] the cookout season of survivor which I was kind of hoping for but anyway I agree and I

[01:24:30] thank you for even bringing that up Izzy because uh I think that again I don't think

[01:24:34] anybody is targeting or whatever but I think that it deserves something to be said right uh so

[01:24:41] I second that but also uh Tevin I think that he was a phenomenal player uh he was the voice of

[01:24:51] this season I think that his intro for every season for every lesson I call him Tevin Angelo

[01:24:58] because he speaks like Maya Angelo he was so funny he showed up as his full authentic self

[01:25:03] we saw that he was a challenge beast we saw that he could make alliances we saw like so

[01:25:08] many things and again I just for me uh I was so happy that Jam Jam won his season uh but for

[01:25:16] me to see a a just someone who I could relate to look like me sound like me and again for

[01:25:23] him being himself not to be a liability and for them to actually take him out the game blindsided

[01:25:30] not because he's other but because he is a legitimate target and a threat to that Tevin

[01:25:37] I take my hat off and I am so proud to be a part of this survivor franchise that I personally

[01:25:44] can witness something like a Tevin playing and uh I love Tevin and I stand for Tevin and I hope

[01:25:49] that he knows that he was a legitimate threat no mistake and he is a king and yeah I'm just

[01:25:56] so happy we have people like a Tevin and if there is a second chance I hope that his name

[01:26:01] is at the top of the list absolutely yeah we love you Tevin we love you Tevin yeah yes anything

[01:26:10] else Jack? No the floor is open if anyone wants yeah I'm excited that's all you know what

[01:26:22] I put my hat on too feels like um aggressive it does it's really kind of like yeah the opening

[01:26:36] yeah actually Woodell sit down okay because you know what I decided the hood should be the other

[01:26:41] way yeah Jack is right Jack is right but Izzy thank you so much for joining us this week it

[01:26:47] was such a great and fun discussion Jackery is always amazing Wendyzy thank you so much

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