Purple Pants Podcast | One-on-One with Taylor Hale

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[00:00:33] Hello, hello and welcome to the Purple Pants Podcast, one-on-one with Taylor Hale, who's a

[00:00:40] brand new brand.

[00:00:56] Hello, hello and welcome to the Purple Pants Podcast, one-on-one with Taylor Hale.

[00:01:03] I serve as your humble and ocel gracious host, Brice Izyah, and I thank you so much for tuning

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[00:01:49] I am so excited this week to bring on the Queen of Big Brother, the winner of BB24,

[00:01:59] Taylor Hale.

[00:02:00] I constantly get messages on the X, on Instagram, on TikTok saying, "Bryce, we need an interview."

[00:02:09] Okay, we want more interviews.

[00:02:10] And, at the top of the list has been Taylor, and I'm so excited to have an open conversation

[00:02:18] with Taylor about what her year has been like for the past year.

[00:02:21] What is to come in the future?

[00:02:24] And we just get into a lot of good, real, relatable conversations, so I think that you

[00:02:31] will definitely enjoy this.

[00:02:34] Please make sure you let me know on the Purple Pants Podcast Instagram page or on YouTube

[00:02:40] or on Twitter, or on X, formerly known as Twitter, what you think about our conversations.

[00:02:45] I think that it's really great and I think that Taylor is just so vulnerable and so open

[00:02:50] and honest and just sharing with her, with us, her journey.

[00:02:53] So listen, without further ado, let's get into one-on-one with Taylor Hale.

[00:03:02] And welcome, welcome, we're super excited for this interview and the making.

[00:03:20] I feel like I always get people in my DMs asking me, "Bryce, you need to get this personal.

[00:03:24] You need to get this personal."

[00:03:25] And so it's like, listen, I am in 2024, I am listening to the people.

[00:03:28] I am so excited to welcome to the Purple Pants podcast, my friend, the star, the queen.

[00:03:36] You may know her from Big Brother 24, the winner, but let's welcome to the podcast,

[00:03:42] Taylor Hale.

[00:03:43] Ding ding ding.

[00:03:44] This is my day right here.

[00:03:45] Okay, listen, it's not a podcast if you're not waiting to whistle, so cheers.

[00:03:51] You go as nice and what?

[00:03:55] Real what?

[00:03:56] I don't know.

[00:03:57] My whistle don't sound like that.

[00:03:58] My whistle sound a little different, but listen, it goes down.

[00:04:01] Well, welcome, welcome, welcome.

[00:04:02] I'm so excited to have you here.

[00:04:04] I feel like I'm low key.

[00:04:06] I freaked it out, but it's always…

[00:04:09] So listen, listen, I think I always was nervous around you.

[00:04:16] I don't know why.

[00:04:17] I feel like the first time I met you, I feel like it was in Philly for a big D's birthday

[00:04:21] party.

[00:04:22] And it was right after you won.

[00:04:24] And so like, we had just a minimal interaction and so like you know, she was like, "Oh my

[00:04:29] God, it's Taylor's.

[00:04:30] Taylor's.

[00:04:31] Taylor."

[00:04:32] And so every time after that, I always felt like every time I would see you all be like,

[00:04:35] "Taylor, hi."

[00:04:37] But honestly, it was when we went to Dayton, Ohio, for Bryce and When Presents The Real

[00:04:42] Talk, and we got to really actually hang out.

[00:04:45] And I think it was like maybe after we had gone out, I had texted you like, "Hey, girl,

[00:04:49] what you doing?"

[00:04:50] Like, why ain't you up here with me so we could cut up?

[00:04:53] And I was like, "Okay."

[00:04:55] And we had us a good old cut-up session.

[00:04:58] I think that that's really when I was like, "Oh my God, Taylor's an actual person."

[00:05:02] Right?

[00:05:03] Because I just feel like I put you on this pedestal, like you're amazing and you hold

[00:05:08] yourself to such a high standards even when you're in your presence.

[00:05:12] You truly radiate.

[00:05:13] So sometimes it's just like, "Oh my God."

[00:05:15] It was really like us literally on the floor laughing for hours.

[00:05:20] Yeah, he's my daddy.

[00:05:22] On the floor of the hotel room.

[00:05:25] I got a new ab that night, grabbed at my side from laughing so hard.

[00:05:29] It didn't even make no sense.

[00:05:31] And it just wouldn't stop.

[00:05:32] And I was like trying to leave, and it's something else funny would say.

[00:05:35] And so it was just crazy stuff.

[00:05:36] And we started seeing this song, and we were saying like, temptations are for new education

[00:05:41] or somebody.

[00:05:42] Okay, yes, we had us a good old town.

[00:05:45] And I think really honestly in that moment, I was like, "Wow, I love Taylor.

[00:05:50] I think that she's so dope, so amazing."

[00:05:52] And so I was just so happy to have those little moments with you, because I feel like in this

[00:05:56] realm, which I'm sure you can be familiar with, we meet a lot of people and a lot of

[00:06:01] the times it's just high and by.

[00:06:04] And it's not until you have those little intimate moments that really kind of break

[00:06:07] down the walls.

[00:06:09] So again, I'm just very grateful for that.

[00:06:11] How would you say your 2023 ended or what, how would you summarize your 2023?

[00:06:18] Oh my, okay, well, first of all, I just got to address all that stuff, and with Babyboy.

[00:06:23] I mean, first of all, I love you.

[00:06:25] I love you so much.

[00:06:26] And I want to say when was Big D part the first time at you?

[00:06:31] Or was it your survivor finale party in LA?

[00:06:35] I forget which was first.

[00:06:36] So I want to say it would have been big.

[00:06:39] It was Big D's.

[00:06:40] It was Big D's.

[00:06:41] And I was like, "An angel, look at the space."

[00:06:44] And you were so nice and super little, brand new to the reality, CBS family world.

[00:06:50] I was like, "I don't know who you are.

[00:06:51] Hello."

[00:06:52] And you were like, "Queen," and I was like, "What is your name?"

[00:06:56] I am not worthy.

[00:06:59] I am not worthy.

[00:07:00] No, no, no, no.

[00:07:01] I should work at the door.

[00:07:02] Oh, please.

[00:07:03] It's one of those weird things, this whole reality community.

[00:07:08] Whew, I'm going to get into it already.

[00:07:11] Okay.

[00:07:12] It's one of those things being in a space where like, you just don't know how other

[00:07:18] people in this reality space relate to you.

[00:07:21] Or if they even relate to you.

[00:07:23] Sometimes you don't know if it's a surface level, co-worker type of friendship or relationship.

[00:07:28] You don't know if it's a genuine friendship.

[00:07:30] And on the flip side of all of that, like sometimes you don't even know if I myself have

[00:07:37] the energy, space, time to invest and explore in new relationships and then just get burned

[00:07:43] or hurt in the end.

[00:07:44] So...

[00:07:45] Talk about it.

[00:07:46] It's really scary to be in the space and want to be welcoming and want to usher in a

[00:07:50] new era and pay tribute to the old era and have your real crew and have this extended

[00:07:57] satellite cruise that happened.

[00:07:58] But you always have to ask yourself, "What is valuable and good and feeds my soul?"

[00:08:05] And a lot of times being in these spaces can not feed your soul.

[00:08:10] I don't want to call it soul sucking or draining but it's very exhausting to be in a position

[00:08:15] where you don't know if someone has genuine intentions or not.

[00:08:21] And I don't want to get too woo-woo but I mean Bryce when I first met you I was like,

[00:08:25] "This is just a radiant piece of matter that we have been so lucky to have on this Earth."

[00:08:34] And I wanted to investigate that budding friendship, relationship, big, these party was

[00:08:39] so much fun and crazy and it was my first time partying with a lot of reality people.

[00:08:44] But I just kept thinking back and I remember calling afterwards me like, "Oh my God, I

[00:08:49] feel like you have my back and I can't wait to go to your events and I feel safe around

[00:08:52] you.

[00:08:53] Thank you for being a person like that that's been in my life and this new era in my life

[00:08:58] for so long and now deepening that friendship, I will never forget rolling on the floor of

[00:09:06] a hotel room laughing with you."

[00:09:08] That is a core core memory.

[00:09:09] But to talk about how my 2023 ended, I feel like a chapter was closing to end 2023.

[00:09:17] You know, I did Ranger Games which was so fun and was a much sooner return to reality

[00:09:24] TV than I expected.

[00:09:26] Yes.

[00:09:27] But it was fun and I feel like it was the experience I needed to have to not be so sour

[00:09:33] on other reality experiences.

[00:09:36] Big Brother especially specifically, when we talk about, "Would you come back?

[00:09:40] Would you come back?"

[00:09:41] I feel like Ranger Games showed me that I can have a fun experience, the experience

[00:09:45] I expected to have.

[00:09:46] But I feel like as far as talking about chapters closing, I feel like I fulfilled the reality

[00:09:55] bug that I needed to fulfill and my time being at this peak of like influencer space

[00:10:02] and super in the face of everybody and super visible and very accessible.

[00:10:09] And I think that goes in hand with having been up until JAG1, the reigning winner of

[00:10:14] Big Brother.

[00:10:15] Like I wanted to be very visible and present and especially as the first Black woman to

[00:10:20] win.

[00:10:21] There are so many layers along with being the first Black woman to win Big Brother.

[00:10:24] There's the layers of the way I was treated and how it resonates with people.

[00:10:27] I wanted to be visible and accessible for the fans because I know how personal it was

[00:10:34] for so many people.

[00:10:36] But I think I've kind of hit my max now of being accessible on a one to one basis now.

[00:10:43] There's only so much of myself that I can give to everybody else without either losing

[00:10:47] or not recognizing who I am anymore.

[00:10:50] And so like I have to close that chapter or not even the chapter, close that book.

[00:10:58] It's like writing a new one and this new book, a sequel, maybe even a prequel who knows.

[00:11:05] It's going to be a space where I can pursue what I want to do, not be ashamed of my reality

[00:11:11] career, maybe even have my reality career continue in it, but it's definitely going to

[00:11:15] be a book that's more about what drives me, what I'm driven by, what I want to pursue

[00:11:21] and what I want to achieve for myself, not for anybody else or what it means for anybody

[00:11:25] else.

[00:11:26] I think that's so relatable, Taylor, right?

[00:11:29] Because so many people have maybe this one thing in their life where it is what got them

[00:11:35] to a place and they have a hard time.

[00:11:38] Like I don't even know what the word really is, but sometimes we have a hard time of like

[00:11:42] saying goodbye to it, right? 'Cause people are scared that like if you say goodbye to

[00:11:46] something, maybe that opportunity will not come again and maybe I need to kind of keep

[00:11:50] beating this dead horse, but in reality, my mom always says like one, another door won't

[00:11:56] open until you close another one.

[00:11:58] And so I think that it's so important that you actually like, you know, can say, you

[00:12:01] know what, I'm going to put this book on the shelf and you know, I could still see the

[00:12:07] shelf, but you know, I'm going to start writing my next journal and who knows.

[00:12:10] I might get that itch to, you know, go back and revisit that book.

[00:12:15] You never know, but I definitely think it's so important to be like intentional.

[00:12:18] And so some people have that fear of like, if I close this chapter, it will never come

[00:12:23] back again.

[00:12:24] Is that something that you experience like in saying like, you know what, I'm going to

[00:12:29] close this chapter or is it really truly walking out on faith and saying, you know what, what

[00:12:34] is for me is going to be for me and I'm going to walk into this new chapter and I'm going

[00:12:39] to see what guy has for me.

[00:12:41] You know, it's interesting, right?

[00:12:44] I think it's kind of twofold.

[00:12:45] I come from the pageant world where you have no choice but to close that chapter and walk

[00:12:50] away.

[00:12:51] And I literally look at my crown every day.

[00:12:52] It is up there on the shelf.

[00:12:53] So literally to say here, example, I have something on the shelf right now that is a

[00:12:58] reminder of my past that I can never go back to.

[00:13:02] But I look at it and I am honored and reminded of the accomplishment.

[00:13:06] And I will never let anybody shame me for that accomplishment and it inspires me to keep

[00:13:11] going.

[00:13:12] Now, if we're talking specifically about reality TV, sure, there is a little bit of fear of

[00:13:16] like, okay, am I being dramatic or even fully honest with myself?

[00:13:21] If I'm saying, I want to walk away from the space or create distance from the space?

[00:13:25] Like, is that dramatic?

[00:13:27] Is it degrading or ignoring what gave me the opportunities that I have now?

[00:13:33] And on top of all of that, am I sending another message to other people that enjoy being in

[00:13:39] this reality space over and over?

[00:13:41] Am I subliminally sending them a message saying that I devalue what fulfills them?

[00:13:48] Those are, of course, I don't want to do any of those things and I hope I haven't.

[00:13:52] But it's just understanding that what is good for me is taking this platform moving forward

[00:14:00] and what has been more harmful for me has been circling around the platform like a funnel

[00:14:06] downwards.

[00:14:07] That's what it's been for me.

[00:14:09] So I will always be just so proud of myself and honored and unashamed of the experiences

[00:14:19] and influencing opportunities I had through Big Brother and Braindier Games also.

[00:14:24] But it's not bad for me to walk forward.

[00:14:27] And I can walk forward and look in the rearview mirror without it derailing me or being afraid

[00:14:33] I'm going to crash in the future.

[00:14:34] Absolutely.

[00:14:35] And think about when you're driving, though, right?

[00:14:37] When you're driving, moving forward, it is imperative that we look in that rearview mirror.

[00:14:44] You know what I'm saying?

[00:14:45] Because if you don't, how are you getting over?

[00:14:47] So it's like, I think that two things can be true at the same time, right?

[00:14:52] Where it's like, you absolutely can move forward and you absolutely can keep that rearview

[00:14:56] mirror in there because it's protection, it's safety, it's like, you know, almost guiding

[00:15:00] you.

[00:15:01] It better.

[00:15:02] You need to know about your surroundings and your past before you go forward.

[00:15:06] Otherwise, you're just going to be lost moving forward.

[00:15:08] Absolutely.

[00:15:09] And what if you break too hard?

[00:15:10] They're crashing the back.

[00:15:12] Okay.

[00:15:13] And if you don't keep your eyes forward, you might crash into some.

[00:15:17] You might roll over something so like, you know, it sounds like we just might need to

[00:15:21] get in that Tesla self drive and just call it a day because I'm not trying to get rear

[00:15:27] ended.

[00:15:28] What was it like for you though, or maybe I am but, you know, that's a different podcast.

[00:15:32] I'm not holding you back.

[00:15:36] I support your pursuits.

[00:15:38] Listen, I'm a great woman.

[00:15:40] Listen, that you are, that you are.

[00:15:44] What was it like ushering in the new season of Big Brother?

[00:15:48] Uh, I know from the survivor standpoint, I know that some winners or some players, they

[00:15:54] almost go through this like depression cycle where it's like their time is over and it's

[00:15:58] like hard to see other new people in the spotlight.

[00:16:03] What was it like for you?

[00:16:04] I said here.

[00:16:05] Damn, take it.

[00:16:06] Take the crown.

[00:16:07] Take it.

[00:16:08] Who wanted here?

[00:16:09] Here.

[00:16:10] But Bobby J. Havis, the three, what's your way?

[00:16:12] Oh y'all.

[00:16:13] All y'all take it.

[00:16:14] No, I think, um, it was, it was so fun.

[00:16:16] But that's the whole point of going to L.A. toward these finale parties and all the things

[00:16:21] that happened.

[00:16:22] I mean you, every season, two times a year, you do this with the survivor parties.

[00:16:26] I do it once a year and this is my first time doing it with Big Brother and having watched

[00:16:31] the show happen in real time, not having met anybody except for preachers before actually

[00:16:37] getting to L.A. being in the space or finale, it was so cool and I'll never forget how much

[00:16:44] the season 23 cast being present and active when season 24 first got out of the house

[00:16:50] meant to me.

[00:16:51] I needed guidance.

[00:16:52] I needed help.

[00:16:53] I, like, it was my first time in L.A. since I was in high school.

[00:16:57] I didn't know where anything was.

[00:16:59] I didn't know who to talk to, you were hang out with.

[00:17:01] I had questions.

[00:17:02] I wanted to meet people and they were there and present and they hosted us for everything.

[00:17:08] They took us out everywhere.

[00:17:09] They sent us here.

[00:17:10] Sent us there.

[00:17:11] We held our hands when we really needed it and because you never forget it, I will never

[00:17:16] forget that kindness and I wanted so badly to also pursue that with 25 because they

[00:17:22] came up a hundred days season, little psychopaths.

[00:17:24] That is crazy.

[00:17:25] That's crazy.

[00:17:27] That's crazy.

[00:17:27] I know, right?

[00:17:29] Well, I'm right, like, that's a lot and I think the survivor is hard but you know, windows

[00:17:35] know, like being, with people that you don't like or yet.

[00:17:39] I couldn't imagine.

[00:17:40] It's too much.

[00:17:41] So just being present and not only saying, all right, I won last season.

[00:17:48] Congratulations, Jag, but actually being there, meeting his friends, his family, introducing

[00:17:53] him to the and everyone else that I got to meet from 25 embracing them and making sure

[00:17:59] they know they have a place in this community.

[00:18:01] Even if I'm not going to be that much active anymore, it's so fulfilling to know that you

[00:18:06] can walk away from that space and say, okay.

[00:18:09] I think like, they're good, like a big sibling for the first time, right?

[00:18:13] Like you're good.

[00:18:14] You're set up and I can walk away and do my own thing and I'm always here if you need

[00:18:18] to call me.

[00:18:19] And it's so fulfilling to be in that position now without feeling that extra pressure of

[00:18:25] being the face of a season.

[00:18:28] Right.

[00:18:29] That's currently being embraced and paroled and all those things.

[00:18:31] So it's cool to now be in a position where I can always give advice, always lend a hand,

[00:18:37] always help out if necessary, but also not have that pressure of like being so meaningful

[00:18:41] and impactful and responsible for everything in the moment.

[00:18:45] Yeah, it's a lot.

[00:18:46] I don't even know how you deal with because I see just a little bit of it on social media.

[00:18:51] And I'm like, I don't know how that could be a reality.

[00:18:54] It takes a lot of strength on the reindeer games.

[00:18:58] We saw you get a little emotional during this process, like what was the most surprising

[00:19:04] aspect of just being a part of the reindeer games?

[00:19:08] Ooh, I think number one, being able to play freely.

[00:19:13] I try not to talk about 24, like it's a soft story because at the end of the day, it's

[00:19:18] a story of triumph and some resilience and all those other things, right?

[00:19:23] But I think we all know in 24 of my brother, I didn't have the space to walk in and play

[00:19:29] whatever game I wanted to play.

[00:19:31] If I wanted to be fresh, like bombastic, anything, I didn't have that runway.

[00:19:36] I had that runway and reindeer games and it's so much fun.

[00:19:42] And I just remember being so excited about getting recruited and going on Big Brother

[00:19:46] 24 and then immediately having the idea of playing a reality TV game, squashed.

[00:19:55] But now I got the chance to play a game freely and have fun and be ridiculous and stupid

[00:20:00] and make good decisions, make bad decisions.

[00:20:04] On top of all of that, I'm playing this game with the legacy that inspired me to go on

[00:20:10] the show, Xavier is right there and locks up with me.

[00:20:13] Daniel Reyes, the last person I watched before going on to my season of Big Brother, is there.

[00:20:18] She comes down the stairs, she looks at me and acts and goes, whoa, or like, oh my God,

[00:20:22] oh my God.

[00:20:23] And I'm like, what do you mean, oh my God?

[00:20:26] I am so fresh and green and new to this whole space and already I get to be in the space

[00:20:34] with the actual community.

[00:20:36] I don't think people really understand how redemptive and fulfilling that experience

[00:20:40] was for me.

[00:20:42] And so to go far in the game and I didn't need to prove myself, like I didn't go into

[00:20:48] reindeer games feeling like I have to prove that I can be a good player and this is going

[00:20:52] to be good for my life, like I just want to play a game, but going as far as I did making

[00:20:56] the decisions I did, winning on my own, winning with a team, playing socially, I think it's

[00:21:02] just reaffirmed to myself and everybody, like, no, Taylor is good at reality games,

[00:21:08] like I am a competitor.

[00:21:10] I have my way of playing these games that are valid and understandable and defendable.

[00:21:15] So yeah, I got emotional for so many personal public reasons.

[00:21:20] And I'm just really grateful that this 10 day filming experience gave me so much and made

[00:21:25] me feel like, okay, I have checked the boxes of what I need to do in the reality space.

[00:21:32] Now, we know you are onto a new chapter and we know that that chapter is going to be

[00:21:39] successful and fruitful because we speak things into existence here on the Purple Pants podcast,

[00:21:43] so that's without a question.

[00:21:46] I know I've seen you talk about like your resistance to doing other reality TV shows

[00:21:52] down the line.

[00:21:54] Has the reindeer games changed that thought process or is it still like, yeah, see you

[00:22:01] later.

[00:22:02] I'm good.

[00:22:03] No, yeah, there are some shows I would definitely still pull up for.

[00:22:06] I got to, traders used to get rid of their like the buggy aspect.

[00:22:10] They have like a bug challenge in one.

[00:22:12] So if they got rid of that for a season, I would pull up for traders.

[00:22:15] Especially if it was all reality again, I would do the amazing race in the heartbeat.

[00:22:21] I feel like I have like a good three or four people from the big brother world that I would

[00:22:26] knock amazing race out of the park with.

[00:22:28] Name some names.

[00:22:29] Who are they?

[00:22:30] Okay.

[00:22:31] Well, number one Joseph, obviously.

[00:22:32] Okay.

[00:22:33] Let's be honest, that would be so funny, like friends to partners to best friends, and

[00:22:39] now they're doing the race together.

[00:22:41] Like that would be so fun to do that with him.

[00:22:44] Michael Brunner.

[00:22:45] Oh boy needs a win, and I think we would be a really great team together.

[00:22:51] And then I think I think Xavier and I would be a really good team and that would be fun

[00:22:57] like back to back first.

[00:22:59] Now they're taking on the race.

[00:23:01] That would be fun.

[00:23:02] That's like interesting.

[00:23:03] I like I figured, Joseph, but like, yeah, I can see you in Xavier.

[00:23:07] That would be really interesting.

[00:23:08] Yeah, I be dumb.

[00:23:10] You heard it here first.

[00:23:11] Now, what about survivor?

[00:23:12] Is this, you just tell me you want, you want to do it with me?

[00:23:17] I'm just saying like, would you do survivor, like what should I do survivor?

[00:23:23] I'm survivor, yes.

[00:23:24] What would you do the race with?

[00:23:26] Well, I mean, we know, we know the answer to that, that's you know, we would be shits

[00:23:31] and gigs if we did the race.

[00:23:32] Oh, girl, we would be what?

[00:23:34] Sally, where are we going?

[00:23:36] Tally think.

[00:23:37] Can you hear this?

[00:23:40] My back hurts too.

[00:23:41] Are you kidding me?

[00:23:42] Okay.

[00:23:43] Yeah.

[00:23:44] We're filling, we're filled, yeah, child, listen.

[00:23:48] I'm kidding.

[00:23:49] I know who fellas.

[00:23:50] What I do survivor.

[00:23:51] The short answer is yes.

[00:23:54] The short answer is yes.

[00:23:56] The long answer is fuck no, like the short answer is anything that is shorter than Big

[00:24:03] Brother is a walk in the park.

[00:24:06] Am I specifically calling survivor a walk in the park?

[00:24:09] No.

[00:24:10] I can't even camp like my idea of camping is a cabin.

[00:24:14] And when I say cabin trip, I mean, like, give me the full.

[00:24:17] Yes.

[00:24:18] Three story cabin with the fireplace and the hall of.

[00:24:22] Do the yes.

[00:24:24] That is camping to me.

[00:24:25] We're making pot roast for dinner and drink your red wine.

[00:24:28] That's that's camping to me.

[00:24:30] I'm not mad.

[00:24:32] Right.

[00:24:33] So that girl doing survivor.

[00:24:35] Oh, I think after the first like two days after the show shot, because you know, I'm

[00:24:44] wasn't nothing at long, but after the shell shock of it all you, it's a survivor really

[00:24:49] surprises you at like, Oh, what?

[00:24:51] Like how adaptable as people we are.

[00:24:54] So I think after one, two, maybe three days for you, I think that you would really kind

[00:25:00] of get into it.

[00:25:02] That's what I feel like.

[00:25:03] I'm like, if I'm in the environment, there's no way out.

[00:25:06] I'd be like, All right, it's 28 days or how are my 20 some days now?

[00:25:11] Like that's I can tough it out.

[00:25:13] All right.

[00:25:14] Okay, well, we could see your eyes now.

[00:25:17] Your thoughts on your thoughts on the challenge, Lord, because now my true, I feel like I'm

[00:25:29] being facetious because like I already know your answer.

[00:25:32] However, I feel like you, you'll, you'll be good on the challenge.

[00:25:37] I feel like it would be a no for you on the challenge USA.

[00:25:41] But I like after seeing someone.

[00:25:44] Well, what would you do it?

[00:25:46] Let me get my thoughts out because honestly I'm a loser.

[00:25:51] After seeing like my good friend, Desi Williams, when right, like I feel like Taylor could

[00:25:57] kill this.

[00:25:58] I, I do see a lot of like the negative.

[00:26:01] Sometimes there's a lot of like drama that gets mixed in with those shows.

[00:26:06] But I think from a fan perspective, seeing you out there, I think would be so amazing.

[00:26:16] So I, how much of this do I want to say?

[00:26:22] Okay.

[00:26:23] The I don't like the drama.

[00:26:27] This dog.

[00:26:28] Can you hear my dog?

[00:26:29] I can hear him.

[00:26:30] He felt so cute.

[00:26:31] Benji, come here.

[00:26:32] Come here.

[00:26:33] Come on.

[00:26:34] Come on.

[00:26:35] Oh, you kind of run away now.

[00:26:37] I'm so sorry we're going to open this podcast.

[00:26:38] So listen, please.

[00:26:41] I am not a fan of all the drama that comes with being on the challenge.

[00:26:46] And I think that goes back to what I was saying about like, I don't know.

[00:26:52] No, I do know this.

[00:26:54] It is not healthy for me to stay in an environment where like drama is incentivized building a

[00:27:02] rivalry with someone is incentivized.

[00:27:05] I would much rather just play a game and just goals in driving crazy.

[00:27:11] I would probably just play a game and I don't think that doing the challenge would give

[00:27:16] me the space to do that.

[00:27:18] That being said, I kind of feel like anybody else that sits at home and watches the show

[00:27:21] mind you like, I have watched seasons of the show and I've enjoyed it.

[00:27:25] So I feel like anybody else where you're watching on a couch and you're like, I'd be

[00:27:28] good at that.

[00:27:29] I would not be good at that.

[00:27:30] I'd be good at that.

[00:27:31] There are parts of the show that I enjoy and would like to participate in.

[00:27:36] So here's my suggestion.

[00:27:38] Okay.

[00:27:39] The challenge does a public experience where you can have the fans and influencers come

[00:27:45] in and do maybe like three or four challenges.

[00:27:49] And so you can say, yeah, I was good at that or oh my God, I was so bad at that without

[00:27:52] having to go through the whole casting process and being on the show.

[00:27:54] So if they put something like that together, I would enthusiastically jump in and participate.

[00:28:00] Going away, filming the whole show and then like risking personal relationships and doing

[00:28:06] the networking and the politics game before getting on a season.

[00:28:09] It's just not healthy for me.

[00:28:11] Yeah, no, we respected.

[00:28:13] I mean, I said what I said, I still would love to see you out there.

[00:28:17] Cause I think that like you would be so interesting to watch, but we absolutely can respect that.

[00:28:23] Now you did touch on Joseph, you know, we over here at the Purple Pants podcast, love

[00:28:29] us some Joseph.

[00:28:30] What?

[00:28:31] I mean, we was going to get there, but we could get there.

[00:28:35] So my first question was, what was your initial thought when you saw that Joseph was the cover

[00:28:42] of the Bryce Isaiah Zaddy calendar?

[00:28:44] Well, I don't know.

[00:28:45] He was the cover.

[00:28:46] I thought he had a month.

[00:28:47] So I was planning it.

[00:28:48] I was like, Oh, so what month are you?

[00:28:50] Are you Mr. December?

[00:28:51] Are you Mr. January?

[00:28:53] Are you Mr. June?

[00:28:54] He's like, no, I'm the cover.

[00:28:57] Oh, it's giving sports illustrated max.

[00:29:03] Oh, yeah, that was amazing.

[00:29:07] I like the thing about Joseph is that God, where do I even start with all of this?

[00:29:14] He's literally become one of my closest friends in the world, and I'm so lucky that our friendship

[00:29:22] evolved from friendship to lover sound so dramatic.

[00:29:26] But like romantic partners that were deeply in love.

[00:29:29] And then we went back into a friendship and it has been so beautiful and fulfilling and

[00:29:33] amazing.

[00:29:34] He's literally on the same tier of friendship as the friends that I had before going on

[00:29:39] reality TV, which like, I didn't expect to happen.

[00:29:42] Yeah, I just, you never anticipate that happening when you go on to film something like this.

[00:29:47] So I'm just really, really grateful for that friendship when we clown this shit out of

[00:29:52] each other all the time.

[00:29:54] So this cover situation, well deserved, I love like, give sexy, give sexuality, give

[00:30:01] sensual and then use that big brain at your lawyer job.

[00:30:05] Okay.

[00:30:06] Joseph is amazing.

[00:30:07] And again, I never expected the friendship that I have with Joseph either, right?

[00:30:10] Where it's like, you know, all I do was clown.

[00:30:12] So it's like 90% of our conversations are us just clowning back and forth.

[00:30:16] But I also love how like, he's so sensitive, he's so intuitive, he's so uplifting, he's

[00:30:21] so supportive.

[00:30:22] It's like, uh, Joseph.

[00:30:25] And you know, when Joseph first met me, he was like stalking me.

[00:30:28] He was just so enamored by just, you know, I had to be like back up, you know, I will

[00:30:34] go to events and you know, I was like, yeah, I'll never forget that night.

[00:30:40] Cause we got like, flamed online.

[00:30:43] I guess I remember people like fans pulled up to try to be like, is this jailer relationship

[00:30:49] real or fake?

[00:30:50] I'll never forget that.

[00:30:53] And so we were just like dancing.

[00:30:55] Have a good time on each other.

[00:30:56] And there were literal cameras like throwing our faces from that VIP section.

[00:31:00] People were like, is that real or is that fake?

[00:31:02] And then someone got mad that we didn't come down and take pictures, but like, people

[00:31:06] were yanking on my arms, yanking on my clothes, like trying to grab on his chest, we were

[00:31:10] like, we got to go.

[00:31:12] Well, I apologize.

[00:31:13] That was me, that was me grabbing on his chest.

[00:31:17] And I'm sorry, Joseph, I was sorry, how you know, my hand just reached you.

[00:31:21] But so let's talk about the Jaybirds real quick.

[00:31:24] Because first of all, there's one Instagram account, like, I think it's like the Jaybirds,

[00:31:30] the support and the love that they show you and just me, even be your friend, the love

[00:31:37] that they show me, it's like I, well, first of all, shout out to that account because I

[00:31:41] appreciate that.

[00:31:42] Like, what does that feel like having accounts solely based on like, sometimes I'm like,

[00:31:50] are they putting out better content and selling like this, like, where are you all getting

[00:31:56] this stuff from, it's crazy.

[00:31:58] No, I look at these fan edits sometimes not even of like me being a relationship, but

[00:32:03] just the individual fan edits.

[00:32:04] I'm like, like, some of them put me in the best mood when I'm having a bad day.

[00:32:08] I'm like, oh, I love that song, oh, I look good there.

[00:32:11] Oh, I was cute in that shot.

[00:32:13] It's like, these people are so talented.

[00:32:16] But when you have a fan accounts specifically documenting your relationship, it's so tricky.

[00:32:25] And I'm very lucky.

[00:32:26] I think he and I are very lucky that we have amazing fans like collectively as individuals.

[00:32:32] So when you open up your phone and you have messages from fan accounts or like fans,

[00:32:40] anything like that, and they say, like, why are you not spending more time in this space

[00:32:45] with him or why is he not coming to see you here or why were you only at this event for

[00:32:49] so long?

[00:32:50] Or did you know he's hanging out with this person?

[00:32:51] And did you know that she's hanging out with this person and usually look out for this

[00:32:53] other person because they're more their type and usually look out for this person because

[00:32:57] you're more their type.

[00:32:58] Like, can I just pursue the career that I want to have and be in a relationship at the

[00:33:05] same time?

[00:33:06] The answer was no.

[00:33:08] But we tried, we tried, we tried.

[00:33:15] But, you know, I think there's one end where the support is fun and it's exciting and you

[00:33:22] just want to show admiration and respect for the people that put in so much effort

[00:33:26] to highlight the good relationship.

[00:33:29] But the handoff is this demand for every detail and not just a demand but an entitlement

[00:33:38] to everything that is the inner workings of your relationship and also an approach where

[00:33:44] people believe that they have more information that they do.

[00:33:47] So people will be like, well, I'm just doing this because I'm looking out for you or I

[00:33:51] think you don't have all the information.

[00:33:52] So I'm telling you everything I know.

[00:33:54] And I'm like, you're telling me everything you know based on have you met me, have you

[00:33:58] met him, have you like, like you're looking at the Instagram likes and you're giving

[00:34:03] me information like I'm sitting next to the man.

[00:34:06] And that's not to say that like, you know, maybe another relationship or whatever, like

[00:34:11] I hear stories of people being like, well, someone de-ummed me and I learned this and

[00:34:15] then I heard all these bad things are relationships.

[00:34:17] That was not the case with me and Joseph.

[00:34:19] And I think also like there's this desire when a relationship ends to take size or especially

[00:34:26] in the reality space, see toxicity or blame one blame the other.

[00:34:31] So our ability to literally remain best friends is very sketchy to a lot of people.

[00:34:39] And it's so upsetting because it's like, you know, I still get a message to this day

[00:34:44] whenever we post each other.

[00:34:45] It's like, oh, you're just using him for content and it's like, he's one of my best friends.

[00:34:50] Right.

[00:34:51] When he's a public figure, I'm very protective of my friends that are not public figures

[00:34:55] because people have DM me, my friends addresses.

[00:34:59] People have said vile things about my friends from my private life who are not public figures.

[00:35:05] So I do my best to protect them now.

[00:35:07] And so most of the people that you'll see me posting are other public figures.

[00:35:11] And the one that I spend the most time with happens to be Joseph, my best friend.

[00:35:15] So it's hard to just spend time with and share your best friend and get these accusations

[00:35:21] of where your real friends, you don't share them, you're just trying to get more money

[00:35:26] by posting him.

[00:35:29] It's hard to feel like you have to defend how genuine you are.

[00:35:33] So I'm just in the space now where it's like, I'm kind of tired of explaining myself.

[00:35:38] I can't say that I'm done because I'll have my moments where I'm sure I'll pop off or

[00:35:42] respond to things.

[00:35:43] But I am less inclined, less incentivized, I have less desire to set the record straight.

[00:35:50] At this point, it's kind of like, it is what it is.

[00:35:52] And I heard this one phrase, you have to be okay with letting people be wrong about you.

[00:35:57] And that's what I'm really working on now.

[00:35:59] Now, that's a word, okay.

[00:36:03] You got to let that go.

[00:36:04] What is, what would you say is like one of the biggest things that you've learned about

[00:36:10] yourself from that relationship with Joseph?

[00:36:13] Because I mean, I think that everyone comes in your life for a reason a season and things

[00:36:16] happen for a reason.

[00:36:17] So I feel like one, the fact that you guys are best friends in my opinion is like, that's

[00:36:21] the blessing right there, right?

[00:36:22] Like, you know, sometimes people go through relationships and friendships end.

[00:36:27] So the fact that like yours is more even bubbling now, I think is a testament just to YouTube.

[00:36:33] But is there something that you've learned about yourself or relationships period going

[00:36:38] through that relationship, because I would imagine that off of a show, winning and like,

[00:36:44] you know, I could, I'm like, how are you even managing all of that?

[00:36:50] I try to give myself grace.

[00:36:52] That's my answer.

[00:36:53] It's like, I, I famously give other people grace.

[00:36:58] And am I just a gracious person or do I just let people like be loud and wrong in their

[00:37:02] own corner, you know, more so the latter, but if people want to believe I'm being gracious,

[00:37:06] so be it, what I deserve and owe myself is patience and grace with myself.

[00:37:14] So being in that relationship, feeling like one of the only people that I could really

[00:37:22] talk to everything about and be locked in with being him, I don't regret any of the actions

[00:37:33] from how I navigated being in the public relationship, analyzing friendships around that relationship.

[00:37:42] Like, I don't regret how often or little I was able to fly out to see him or how often

[00:37:47] a little he was able to fly out to see me.

[00:37:50] But I took it hard in the moment, because as a, as a human being, as a partner, romantic

[00:37:58] partner, there's so much pressure to do it the right way.

[00:38:03] Right.

[00:38:04] And I have to look back at that space and say, like, this was so brand new to me.

[00:38:08] I can't think immediately of anybody that came off the brother or survivor or amazing

[00:38:14] race in the recent years that had so much attention and communal support and attention

[00:38:20] around them.

[00:38:21] Like, I did it at that time.

[00:38:22] I don't say that's week hockey.

[00:38:24] I just say that's be like, I feel like I was going through something uniquely different

[00:38:31] in recent history.

[00:38:32] Right.

[00:38:33] I didn't have a lot of people like a turn to that could relate to me.

[00:38:37] And I'm not going to be upset with myself from being in a public relationship.

[00:38:40] Now I definitely learned I'm not going to do that again.

[00:38:43] That's not as my MO at the end of all of it, but I can't be upset with myself for pursuing

[00:38:50] what I did, believing in the love and being in a relationship and doing it publicly.

[00:38:55] Like, who am I to be upset for, for being someone in love and doing it publicly?

[00:39:00] And what is your love tank like now?

[00:39:03] Like what is your prospects of love in the future?

[00:39:07] Is it something where it's like, if it comes, it comes?

[00:39:10] Is it something where it's like, I'm focusing on my career?

[00:39:13] Or is it something where it's like, sometimes you just got, you know, please yourself and

[00:39:19] you know, you know, but people don't talk about that, right?

[00:39:23] Like sometimes it's like, well, you're focusing on your Stacey Allen's weeks.

[00:39:27] Okay.

[00:39:28] Oh, my, my, oh, wait, I know the words of that saw away.

[00:39:42] I don't know why I'm drawing a blank.

[00:39:43] Now that's my first of all, what do you know about tweet, okay, because smoke a cigarette

[00:39:47] at night.

[00:39:48] Ooh, I won't complain.

[00:39:50] Ooh, you don't know that.

[00:39:52] You don't know nothing about Southern Hummingbird, but anyway.

[00:39:55] Not like I would just seen the lyrics, but you weren't.

[00:40:01] But okay.

[00:40:02] I had the harmony.

[00:40:03] If I didn't give you that harmony, you would, oops, that goes my shirt above a musker.

[00:40:11] Oh, that's ahead over the head.

[00:40:15] I know the words I do, I just need to hear what the three, three words of the first person

[00:40:20] and I got you.

[00:40:23] Okay.

[00:40:24] And then I'll, I'm gonna do a plug for Balesa, since they've taken great care of me.

[00:40:28] They've been an amazing brand.

[00:40:30] I'm really excited about just like ongoing work that I have with them.

[00:40:33] And I finally am able to get paid for.

[00:40:36] I was not allowed to get paid to work with them for quite some time.

[00:40:39] But now we're in that space together and I'm so happy.

[00:40:42] So women finding self pleasure, self love, I'm always component of that.

[00:40:47] We don't shame for anyone's sexual pleasure over here.

[00:40:51] Okay.

[00:40:52] So as far as like the love capacity goes, I am someone that is full of so much love to

[00:40:58] give, but I am so picky.

[00:41:01] Now, like love and sex are two different things.

[00:41:04] Okay.

[00:41:05] So like if I need to give mine, I'm a human body.

[00:41:10] Okay.

[00:41:11] Without shame, but when it comes to love, like I'm very, very selective in who gets access

[00:41:17] to me like that.

[00:41:19] Because not everyone is deserving of the love that I can provide.

[00:41:23] So am I like, I'm not in a position where I'm like, I have to get married by this date

[00:41:30] and this time at this age and have kids by this age.

[00:41:32] And like, no, I would like it to happen in a certain timeframe.

[00:41:37] Ish like with a decade, but that's plenty of time.

[00:41:41] Okay.

[00:41:42] So my focus right now is when I get to L.A., my career, I have my own aspirations that

[00:41:49] I'm going to pursue that I am pursuing that I am so over the moon for.

[00:41:54] And would it be amazing to be able to come home at night and have a loving, supportive

[00:41:58] partner?

[00:41:59] Yes.

[00:42:00] But there's a difference between knowing what it takes to have a loving, supportive life

[00:42:05] partner and just having your bed warm at night.

[00:42:09] Two different things.

[00:42:10] But you know, a warm bed sometimes, you know, you know, sometimes, you know, I'm on a roll

[00:42:21] to a better Bryce myself, right?

[00:42:24] And I try not to allow my personal space to be occupied with people that I know aren't

[00:42:30] deserving, but I would be a hypocrite if I got on here and said this sometimes.

[00:42:39] I know that they are in person is not deserving, but you know, big mama got needs.

[00:42:45] And so, you know, I don't feel shame in that.

[00:42:49] But I do know that like it's like at some point, you know, it's like when you know better,

[00:42:54] you do better and like, you know, you have to really up, you got to stand by it.

[00:42:58] But sometimes no, love and sex are two different things.

[00:43:01] Okay.

[00:43:02] All right.

[00:43:03] Okay.

[00:43:04] Get yours.

[00:43:05] Cause sometimes it'd be the ones that's like the worst, the F boys, you know, sometimes

[00:43:11] whoo, but the service they can provide.

[00:43:15] I mean, I'm just you are you are utilizing a service.

[00:43:19] Okay.

[00:43:20] Sometimes some people fulfill certain things and you also you use them for what they can

[00:43:25] provide.

[00:43:26] So, and I know this interview supposed to be about you, but let me tell you my dilemma

[00:43:30] with that.

[00:43:31] Okay.

[00:43:32] And so a part of my dilemma with that is I agree, right.

[00:43:35] And so I feel like I've got a healthy balance.

[00:43:38] But sometimes I do feel like it's a comfort blanket for me right where it's like, because

[00:43:44] I have this situation, it's like, I don't really look out.

[00:43:47] I don't really look around because it's like, you know, all I gotta do is, go.

[00:43:52] And you know, so sometimes I do believe that it really is just like you sex and relationships

[00:43:58] are so different.

[00:43:59] I do feel like I it's a distraction because if I didn't have this distraction in my life,

[00:44:07] like maybe different opportunities, maybe I would stay out an hour later somewhere and

[00:44:13] you never know who I would be, instead of me, you know, oh dry.

[00:44:22] That's only.

[00:44:23] Oh, boy.

[00:44:24] I didn't even look at in the rear view mirror.

[00:44:27] Okay.

[00:44:28] No.

[00:44:29] Okay.

[00:44:30] Be be.

[00:44:31] Slam the door and run use your foot stuff.

[00:44:37] Okay.

[00:44:38] So that's real sometimes.

[00:44:39] That's fine.

[00:44:40] I mean, just just don't let it block the bag.

[00:44:44] I mean, why I don't block the bag please, I'm now the bag and sometimes I feel like it

[00:44:52] does provide.

[00:44:55] If I didn't have it in my life, maybe I would be available and open to like other situations.

[00:44:59] So I feel like that's just my, my personal dilemma.

[00:45:02] I hear your testimony.

[00:45:05] I support you on the journey that is most beneficial to you and the one that's most beneficial.

[00:45:09] Maybe it's like legally blonde, right?

[00:45:12] Like working at exercise gives you endorphins and dolphins, like happy people and dormers

[00:45:17] make you happy.

[00:45:18] Happy people don't kill their husbands.

[00:45:19] You know, like you need your endorphins and door for like you happy, happy people aren't

[00:45:23] miserable people.

[00:45:24] I mean, that that is true.

[00:45:26] Yeah.

[00:45:27] Get yours.

[00:45:28] Right.

[00:45:29] Sometimes when people be like, are you in the relationship?

[00:45:30] I'm like, no, I'm good, but I'll be like, I'm not lonely though, like, you know, okay.

[00:45:35] So, you know, I don't need no pity, but okay.

[00:45:39] So we've seen you this year attend numerous red carpets.

[00:45:43] You know, correspondent, we see you doing these interviews on like, hey, I said, look

[00:45:47] at my girl.

[00:45:48] Okay.

[00:45:49] She over here is shiny.

[00:45:50] Is there anything that like what was one of your favorite interviews or moments on

[00:45:54] the red carpets?

[00:45:56] Oh, so I don't think anything will top the Grammys, which again, it's, I tell like friends

[00:46:04] of family all the time.

[00:46:05] I always catch myself saying, I am so sorry for the sentence that's about to come in my

[00:46:09] mouth.

[00:46:10] And then I'll say something ridiculous that I did like, oh, you know, when I flew from

[00:46:13] the Grammys to the Super Bowl, then I went to this party, like, it's, it's crazy, right?

[00:46:18] This is ridiculous things to be able to say.

[00:46:20] But I just remember being on the carpet at the Grammys, and we got there early so we

[00:46:26] could have our time on the carpet and get through interviews.

[00:46:29] I could get through interviews and do photos and everything, but then we just got to like

[00:46:34] hang out and walk up and down as much as we wanted to on the carpet.

[00:46:38] And it was crazy seeing how many legitimate celebrities, legitimate musicians were just

[00:46:46] right there, right there walking next to me.

[00:46:49] I remember Sam Smith's entourage, Sam Smith and Kim Petrus, they came through with the

[00:46:55] unholy entourage.

[00:46:57] And their group was just so big, I was standing on the carpet.

[00:47:01] They just like came in in this giant group and in their Grammys carpet photo, I was

[00:47:09] literally in a corner and we had to like duck out the way because they just came through

[00:47:12] so big.

[00:47:13] So they're, thank God, there's on a picture where I'm like visibly crouching in the back,

[00:47:18] but literally in that photo I'm like hiding behind somebody so I'm not photo bombing them.

[00:47:23] It was hilarious.

[00:47:24] And then I thought of another moment, but I already lost it.

[00:47:28] It was going to pop in my head, I'll just know it well.

[00:47:32] Sam, I had a good one.

[00:47:33] I remember when you guys were at the Grammy and it was so fun to watch like Joseph's stories

[00:47:39] of it all because you kind of got to see like almost as if like you were there.

[00:47:44] And so it was just so amazing to first of all see all there, but also just see the love

[00:47:48] and to see you shine it out there is like so crazy and your outfits were amazing for

[00:47:53] the Grammy.

[00:47:54] So again, you know, to you all.

[00:47:57] Now, what TV shows, what movies like what, what does the growth sale and like what does

[00:48:04] she go into?

[00:48:05] Are you on Netflix, which one you know, Hulu, which, will we watch it?

[00:48:10] I mean for all of them, unfortunately, let me hold that password to Hulu though okay

[00:48:16] girl cuz.

[00:48:17] Okay.

[00:48:18] Let me get I have been telling everybody, I know you got American Plus.

[00:48:23] I have been telling everybody that I know to watch the show on Paramount Plus.

[00:48:28] Called why women kill have you heard of it? So I have heard of it. You're like the third person to tell me about that. Yes

[00:48:35] I'm gonna make sure I write that one down soon, okay

[00:48:38] Immediately you need to you're gonna hang up on this call and you're gonna ignore anything else you have to do

[00:48:42] They're gonna watch that TV show. It is

[00:48:45] Here's what I'm talking about. It's been hopping up for months in my TikTok feed and like I'm not about watching full TV shows

[00:48:53] Are full movies on TikTok. I'll just scroll real fast, but there was one day. I was like, what is this?

[00:48:58] It got me hooked. I finally caved in after three months of this thing being fed to me. I

[00:49:04] Crushed that entire show in one day. It is addictive. It is hilarious. It sounds like true crime

[00:49:12] It is not true crime personally. I hate true crime. It is a comedy

[00:49:15] It's the same director and producer of desperate housewives

[00:49:18] So it's got that like kind of like house. Why you a little bit campy comedy

[00:49:23] Dark comedy vibe

[00:49:25] We like watch it everybody. Go watch why let me kill on pyramid class

[00:49:29] It actually came out years ago, but I guess it's just getting like a second win because it's kind of a right now

[00:49:34] Go I love it. Okay. It's on my on my topic. Have you seen the gilded age or HBO mix? I am not but

[00:49:43] I've heard good things

[00:49:45] Yeah, I didn't know like you I've seen it and then it was like one day

[00:49:48] I was like, all right, cuz I don't know if you're like this, but sometimes I'll spend 45 minutes try to find

[00:49:54] What to watch and then I don't have any energy. I'm like eff it. I'm gonna go to sleep

[00:49:59] Let me turn this off, but I stumbled on the Gilded Age and again. I love I'm a period piece girlly

[00:50:05] Yes, I just love that and so it's like kind of similar to like Bridgerton a little bit

[00:50:14] but I thought that it was well done is two seasons you can have it and

[00:50:19] It's only two seasons the second season just ended so you know you got maybe about 16 episodes

[00:50:25] But it's good though. I feel like it's a something you can when I started watching it

[00:50:29] I just was like I watch one a night so I have like a treat

[00:50:33] Some myself right

[00:50:37] So what else like any other thing you're watching and?

[00:50:40] Oh, I've been watching everyone knows on a massive fan of drag race, so I'm

[00:50:44] Up on the season that just premiered do you watch drag race?

[00:50:47] So yes and no with being friends with Derek like I don't have an option because there's like come over

[00:50:53] We watch this out. Okay, so I don't watch it

[00:50:56] but I do I know about it and I think it's like it's like any other addictive reality TV show after an episode

[00:51:03] It just pulls you right in your in your in your end okay

[00:51:05] Well, they're bringing back immunity on the season so like a million and a half reasons to watch

[00:51:10] I've caught up on that I don't like how they split up

[00:51:13] The premiere like they split all the queens up all the girls are in the house

[00:51:17] We got away so Friday because other like yes, oh no, and now like half the girls have more screen time already

[00:51:21] It's weird to me. I don't like it, but whatever. I'm not a Rupel. I'm not making Rupel money yet. Yeah

[00:51:27] What else do I love? I'm a house wise

[00:51:31] Guily oh okay. Okay. Well, so let me okay, so what is your favorite franchise?

[00:51:37] Okay, so we have such a journey to go on here

[00:51:42] Years ago. I'm talking 10 plus years ago

[00:51:44] Probably like more towards the beginning Jersey was my favorite. I

[00:51:48] Love when they had Caroline Mandzo on there. I loved all her family drama

[00:51:55] I loved when it was like all of them against Danielle

[00:51:58] It was a crazy villain. It was so good then when they started getting into the actual inner family

[00:52:07] In laws drama, that's when I started to fall off the team are you Melissa or Teresa?

[00:52:12] It depends on the day on

[00:52:16] Pick it pick it up. It's going it's going to directly determine how the rest of this interview go on go

[00:52:21] Okay, I'll tell you I have not caught up on the last two seasons. It's just in your mind just in your mind

[00:52:26] If I'm married to a man, I expect that man to always take my side, so I'm a go with Melissa

[00:52:33] All right, Taylor, thank you so much for coming on this

[00:52:37] Girl

[00:52:39] Girl I'm team Teresa

[00:52:41] I don't know what happened though. I need to do I need to go back in you see what I'm saying

[00:52:46] Do a man you can't be picking your sister and all that over our family that we have all the time

[00:52:54] The family dynamics are crazy though, right?

[00:52:59] So people either love to hate Melissa or love to hate

[00:53:02] Teresa, but again, I just think it's like there is no

[00:53:07] Jersey without Teresa in my opinion. Oh, I agree that is a hundred percent true. I will never contest that

[00:53:12] Okay, I'm just speaking from the one piece of information that I could provide here

[00:53:17] Okay, I'll be damned if my husband is running off and taking a sister side and doing all that is that's what's happening

[00:53:23] I don't know but we'll just

[00:53:25] They're in eyes, they ain't friends, they ain't you know, oh you watch Salt Lake City. Uh, first of all first of all

[00:53:34] Okay, well, nobody say Monica ate this season. Like

[00:53:38] Yes, so I

[00:53:41] Don't agree with Monica, but if they're

[00:53:46] Salt Lake City would be art should be grateful for two things Monica and Mary Cosby. That's it

[00:53:52] Okay, cuz first of all Mary Cosby

[00:53:56] Like I need somebody just to do a study on her. She I just oh

[00:54:03] As a human race we need a study on the species the specimen that is Mary Cosby. Yes, I

[00:54:07] Just yeah, and it's funny because my I'll be getting all the tea from the tiktok and stuff

[00:54:12] He was getting a big brother for a while too. They up to my truth

[00:54:21] It's almost like sometimes I'm a little too much on tiktok, right because it's like I don't even watch shows anymore

[00:54:26] I just go to my like the people and the way they break stuff down. It's like what's the point?

[00:54:32] But on Salt Lake City, it apparently they brought Mary back as a friend because obviously you know with our girl with Jen Goldman and jail

[00:54:39] They knew they needed something but production was not happy with Mary because you know child

[00:54:43] She was sitting in the car Mary's gonna do Mary and after I think episode one air

[00:54:48] They had to go back and shoot scenes because they saw how

[00:54:52] amazing

[00:54:55] Miss Mary's one liners were like again. So good. I

[00:55:01] Love me chaotic and but like you need you need the chaotic weirdo housewives. They have to be there for a reason I

[00:55:07] Will say

[00:55:11] With Miss what's her name the one on this season now. I forget about Monica Monica

[00:55:16] Gave the drama the reunion was

[00:55:21] hilarious

[00:55:23] She I mean she ate at the reunions

[00:55:27] She was called. I call bench-worn bitch. I was like. Oh, no

[00:55:30] She like that mouth on her. It just doesn't stop

[00:55:34] but it's so

[00:55:37] Out of place for the group that it's like it radicalizes and shakes up the dynamic. I

[00:55:43] Don't think that she's a housewife that you could have be a sustainable figure for seasons and seasons

[00:55:47] Like I don't see there being a real way for her to be part of Salt Lake City in the future without saying the precedent that you can

[00:55:55] Troll your way on to a long standing reality show role. Like that's not

[00:56:00] Acceptable could you imagine? I'm sure you had trolls in your messages

[00:56:06] Imagine if they ended up on survivor and worked hard to be and like

[00:56:11] They've been someone who's been dog-neutral and you for years and years and now they're not just coming up to your parties

[00:56:15] Well, now they're on your podcast and they're kicking it at your home and they met your family

[00:56:19] They met your closest friends that are on TV and you turn around and say wait these messages these paragraphs and paragraphs

[00:56:25] That you DM me and messaged everybody else that was you

[00:56:28] Like that's that lie

[00:56:31] That can't be I'm just taking it personally. That's all it is

[00:56:36] I'm just taking it personally. So and I get it right because of the all the reality won't see. It's a lot

[00:56:40] And so I agree with you my my

[00:56:43] rebuttal to that is I feel like of all of the franchises

[00:56:48] Salt Lake City is a little different in the sense that

[00:56:52] With the whole gen thing with the whole it just is I definitely agree that it's weird having Monica

[00:56:59] But I think that just like any other new housewife now you can build from the first season, right

[00:57:06] You can now have legitimate things and things and things and things but this I just want to know is the is the range Rover in your

[00:57:12] Mom name, okay, like who would like like because they need to just add her mom because her mom is a mess and a half as well

[00:57:21] Yeah, I mean that's that's a reality show on its own right. That's a spin-off

[00:57:26] A spin-off of a spin-off that can go on peacock.com

[00:57:32] I would I hear

[00:57:35] You watch Potomac

[00:57:37] Not anymore. Okay, I've been tapped out

[00:57:43] Look I used to live in DC. I spent my I call it my adult formative years

[00:57:48] I spent in DC

[00:57:49] And so all the places they go to the people to hang out with like I've been at some parties where some of these housewives have been and

[00:57:55] I just had to take a step back because it's so

[00:57:58] They need

[00:58:01] They need so much more life put into it. They need so they need help. They need help Potomac. Okay?

[00:58:06] Well, it's good. Okay now. I now I know I could text you about some more things when I see some stuff I could send it

[00:58:13] I

[00:58:14] Do want to know right you have spoken extensively about your support to the LGBTQ+ community

[00:58:21] And first of all we love it. We love Ally

[00:58:24] What do you feel like draws you to this community? Why do you feel that like you know, you see us like what what is it with us? Oh

[00:58:34] Man, I think I've just I like my mom had these close friends

[00:58:42] There are my uncles growing up and it took me until I was in high school to even realize oh wait

[00:58:50] That's how and you know, maybe it's just from the way they grew up and communities that grew up where like

[00:58:57] They could be gay without explicitly saying it or explicitly coming out over and over different people

[00:59:02] but my my I just always grew up with black gay people without knowing it and so I think I was just

[00:59:10] exposed to the culture in a way that

[00:59:12] Even without it being like hammered over my head of this is gay culture. I was exposed to it and that like

[00:59:18] This is what gayness is and it's very normal. So normal that I didn't even even know that they were not

[00:59:25] straight, right? Right and so I think that in tandem with the media that I consume growing up

[00:59:32] I was watching queer eye for the straight guy. I was watching

[00:59:34] That's a cue. Oh, baby

[00:59:37] I was watching queer eye for the straight guy. I was watching

[00:59:40] Top model America's next top model where you had Miss Jay and nobody questioned what Miss Jay was doing, right?

[00:59:45] like the I

[00:59:47] Saw the mundaneness of queer culture and I saw the

[00:59:52] Hyperfemininity and the overt the topness of queer culture through media through my personal life

[00:59:58] It was always regular and normal and established to me. So when I got older

[01:00:03] Which again, it's it's odd to think about it as coming from a time where like coming out was such a big

[01:00:09] monumental thing or the idea concept being gay or

[01:00:12] associating with queer people was so unique and heavy

[01:00:16] Growing up and being able to articulate

[01:00:21] feelings, positions, acceptance

[01:00:23] Was a lot easier and more fluent to me because I wasn't learning about gayness or queerness for the first time

[01:00:30] I was just getting the vocabulary for it the first time

[01:00:32] so

[01:00:35] all of that in combination with just just like a knowledge of

[01:00:39] being a Black woman, right like a double minority in our society

[01:00:44] There are queer Black women. There are trans non-binary

[01:00:48] Non-binary people women, but there are so many layers that other people face that put them in a disadvantage and unfair

[01:00:57] Disadvantage and you just have to recognize that if

[01:01:00] The quote unquote lowest among us are not free none of us are free

[01:01:07] So why not use what power and privilege? I do have even before was in reality to advocate for community

[01:01:15] That is just another extension of my community. Like we're all black. We're all of color

[01:01:20] We're all a minority

[01:01:22] Why would I not throw my weight behind?

[01:01:24] Accepting and embracing that and then it's a question of what does it mean to accept and embrace and it's not just a yes

[01:01:31] Girl, yes, yes, it is

[01:01:35] It's deeper and more complex than that, and that's why I take

[01:01:38] I feel grateful to have been

[01:01:43] recognized as an ally during my time on Big Brother from you know, my friendship with Michael or

[01:01:50] conversation I had with Turner about him being by or the conversations I had about

[01:01:54] What if I were to have a trans kid or my my fandom of drag race like you're very natural ways that people could understand

[01:02:01] oh, she's not just saying these buzzwords like these are natural pieces of the way that she

[01:02:08] interacts and I

[01:02:10] Really didn't want to be just this

[01:02:13] I would say it I didn't want to be this like

[01:02:17] Fabulous reality star that gave people just love but doesn't have any substance behind it because y'all know it's like

[01:02:25] The gays love the gays lower reality girly, but that reality girly might be turning around and donating trumps

[01:02:31] like check checks to Trump

[01:02:33] So I'm not going to sit here and have majority of my supporters be black women queer people and not show up for them

[01:02:41] That doesn't make any sense for me. It's just not who I am

[01:02:44] Yeah, no, I well, I appreciate it so much and again, I think you really hit on such a

[01:02:50] A point for me is that like even in like where I work there'll be some women that I don't even really talk to

[01:02:57] I'm just like myself showing up in these spaces and

[01:03:00] We'll be in the break from getting coffee and I'll be like, okay

[01:03:04] Let me get this creamer and then Susan will be like yes creamer. Okay, like you know and it's like

[01:03:10] It's giving I would have voted for Beyonce a third time if I could have you know

[01:03:15] Right like it's like so how else are you showing up?

[01:03:19] Right, and it's like we appreciate that but like just realize there is so much more to us than like

[01:03:25] What you believe and see so it's like I I respect that and appreciate that so much

[01:03:30] Because yeah, it's a standing on business and standing on your words and really like, you know

[01:03:35] advocating for

[01:03:37] Minorities I think is so important

[01:03:39] And I don't want to take up too much more of your time

[01:03:42] Well listen because I feel like one day I can sleep I wouldn't say it was like maybe last week two weeks ago

[01:03:52] I couldn't sleep so I was like let me scroll through TikTok and I came across this story

[01:03:58] and you were packing and you were just listening to music just packing and so I just like put my phone up on my

[01:04:05] Dad, I was like let me just jam with Taylor and listen to her

[01:04:08] Girl I woke up

[01:04:13] Well, I was like

[01:04:17] girl

[01:04:19] You was just a vibe becoming hey joshy. Hey, thank you. Like you know, I was like see I could get down with this

[01:04:26] So I know you are a music girly cuz you know Chata had eight hours of it

[01:04:31] What is some of your favorite genres of music?

[01:04:36] Say hello Benji say hello. You got some big Bubba. Yes

[01:04:48] I love cuz he looks like he's hyper alligetic, so I

[01:04:53] I call him a fried chicken dog because when he's curled up in a little circle you looks like a piece of fried chicken looked like a

[01:04:58] Fine, okay

[01:05:00] So I my taste of music is all over the place. I say like everything but country, which is very true

[01:05:06] I could recognize maybe like A'Shanaya's wane song

[01:05:09] I love 'Shanaya, I really do but I don't consider myself a country aficionado my favorite genre

[01:05:16] Honestly, you know, it really gets me going as new Jack swaying. Like

[01:05:21] That era that time frame of music I think because my mom played it all the time growing up

[01:05:26] It was just so formative for me

[01:05:28] And when Janet was hitting new Jack swing like that was

[01:05:31] I'm such a Janet fan her music means so much for me

[01:05:35] But there's so many different artists and bands and groups in that era that just like the sound is unique. It's fun

[01:05:41] It's funky. It's upbeat the songs are fun. The lyrics are awesome

[01:05:46] It's like a favorite genre that's probably gonna be it

[01:05:50] But like I'm kind of lame. I just like top 20 and I say top point because it's like whatever is a hit is a hit

[01:05:56] Good, okay

[01:05:59] I'm not mad. I think of my

[01:06:03] genre would have to be like early

[01:06:07] 2000s r&b yeah, that's like I always just to resonate with like I don't know why I don't judge me

[01:06:14] Don't analyze me, but I resonate with like sad music right like I like music

[01:06:18] Don't get me wrong. I like happy music

[01:06:20] But if I'm taking a bath like I'm gonna need to put on some Kelly price

[01:06:25] So I don't know why just like you know, I mean like can we try some shot a next time shot?

[01:06:31] though I mean

[01:06:34] You like a ambience yes, yes so you know wherever it gets me in my emotions

[01:06:43] I feel like I just

[01:06:44] Resignates sometimes they'd be like why you listen to this dance? I'm not sad. I just like the song so I

[01:06:49] Do want to know if you were a rapper?

[01:06:53] What would your rap name be and what is what the title of your first rap single big?

[01:07:01] I feel like t-mac. I was gonna say okay. Okay, okay

[01:07:05] Could be big Mac, but no no it can't be single go with t-mac or tay Mac. We could do a tay Mac

[01:07:14] No, I actually hate being called Tay

[01:07:17] The take a literal nail is on a chalkboard to me

[01:07:22] It's only my Twitter handle because that's the amount of characters I could get but when people call me Tay. I'm like

[01:07:28] I don't ever

[01:07:31] Again ever so anyway so t-mac would be my rap name and my first single would probably be like

[01:07:39] It would have to be I

[01:07:46] I'm trying to think of stuff like sword a resilience. It would have to be like slice of bitches up. Oh, okay

[01:07:55] Slice slice slice and see max slice in. Okay, it's nice and nice one of the two

[01:08:02] Okay, come with that Detroit coming out not slicing the dice

[01:08:06] There's this hilarious tiktok. I saw that was like it made fun of every Detroit beat and someone comment is said

[01:08:11] It's Halloween year round in Detroit

[01:08:13] Just child sound like Philly, okay

[01:08:17] Sound like Philly. Now to close this out first of all, we're so thankful to have you this, you know

[01:08:24] Our long conversation about all over the realm of things and I truly were so grateful to have you I would like to know

[01:08:31] What are you today in?

[01:08:35] 2024 if you are give lit right oh

[01:08:38] 2024 like I remember being a like now

[01:08:41] I remember being like a grade doing a math and like how old I would be I'm like shout

[01:08:46] Not 23 and 24

[01:08:48] Oh

[01:08:50] 23 and 24

[01:08:52] On the last day of the year

[01:08:54] Yeah, okay, well welcome to the 33rd only get like like a bottle of fine wine

[01:09:04] Uh, what they say dark at a buried sweetie the juice

[01:09:07] Let me get some sun real quick. Listen, okay. I'm trying to get dork skin. Mm-hmm. Come on brown skin

[01:09:15] Oh, not that one but now imagine, okay, I was thinking India, but I was saying beyond say no

[01:09:22] But I was like I wonder if she'll know India, okay, I am not my

[01:09:25] Words harmony

[01:09:32] Okay, I'm hoping you out now what?

[01:09:38] Message or what advice would you give?

[01:09:43] little tea

[01:09:46] Think of like you are eight nine and eleven year old self like what is a message if you could send to yourself

[01:09:54] Today's tea so little tea

[01:09:59] What great is it eight nine? Oh, I think like high school think like first year high school. Oh girl

[01:10:06] Don't cry about homecoming that guy that you wanted to go with his bald now. Oh

[01:10:17] Yeah, that's pretty straightforward. I am not my

[01:10:22] No, he has me to listen to a song

[01:10:26] You can be bald and sad

[01:10:29] Oh, nappy he can be bald sad

[01:10:31] Really my real advice would be just like

[01:10:34] Pursue your own path. Mmm. Yeah pursue your own path and don't let anybody

[01:10:44] sway you otherwise

[01:10:47] No, I think we're things worked out pretty well for me. Yes, okay

[01:10:53] Pursue your own path and it's crazy to think that that would be your message

[01:10:58] So your younger self and I think when we started this podcast, right?

[01:11:02] Talking about closing a chapter and you know kind of stepping out on faith and beginning a new chapter and pursuing your own path

[01:11:11] Yeah, I'm really grateful. It's a good space to be and I'm really lucky

[01:11:15] Well, I am happy for you. So happy that have you here. I have so much love for you

[01:11:21] Thank you again for coming on the podcast. I'm sure this this will be the first of many. Okay

[01:11:26] I got more harmonies for you to know the words to

[01:11:28] Well, let me call you after this and you don't have me laughing on the floor again, all right

[01:11:33] Well, thank you. I love you I want everyone to know if you are listening to this podcast

[01:11:38] You already know that Bryce is a delight an angel a great being on this earth

[01:11:45] but I want you to

[01:11:47] Really take that in and sit with it and know that you have impacted so many people and such an amazing and wonderful way

[01:11:53] And I want you to not be afraid to tell yourself that you are a good person and you were deserving of love and kindness and happiness

[01:12:00] And it is not bad or selfish or cocky for you to believe so

[01:12:06] received thank you so much love you Taylor

[01:12:11] Make me cry

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[01:12:23] It's a purple pants pie cash you let listen in public might make your stomach hurt

[01:12:28] She's trying to unwind you better get that box wine

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