Purple Pants Podcast | Merge Mayhem, Advantage Hunts & Shifting Alliances!

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[00:00:25] What's up, what's up, welcome to the Purple Pants Podcast, Survivor News, covering Survivor Season 48, Episode 6. I serve as your humble and oh so gracious host, Brice Izyah, and I thank you so much for tuning in to this week's Survivor News Recap.

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[00:01:12] The baby boys are back with your weekly dose of Survivor News. When DZ, Jack Atkins, and myself, as we dive into the chaos of Survivor 48, Episode 6, the tribes merge, sparking a frantic search for a hidden advantage that leads to a game-changing find.

[00:01:34] New alliances form as players bond over shared interests, while other targets perceived threats, a dramatic tribal council resulting in a pivoted blindside, leaving the castaways and viewers like myself in the Purple Pants posse wanting more. Let's get into this week's Survivor News.

[00:02:06] Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Dot, dot, dot. What is going on? Welcome back to this week's Survivor News, covering Season 48, Episode 6.

[00:02:34] I am ecstatic to be here. We had a great episode. I'm with the baby boy. You might know him from The Circle Season 2. The floor is lava. Or, you know, he might just be the next casting agent that is calling you to see about a love show on a boat. The man, the myth, the legend, Jack Atkins was popping. What is up, Bryce? Just me and you right now. Well, listen.

[00:03:03] We had to put Wendeezy on spring break. No. Jack, Chicago was the time. The BWP Tour 48. We rolled into Chicago with Ozzy, with Rome, with Sifu, with Alexis from Kageyan, with Jetsia from Kageyan, with Liana, with Jessica from Big Brother, with Matt Hoffman, with Andy. It was a time, Jack.

[00:03:33] Where was it? Where was it at? That was in Chicago. No, like, what spot? Oh, Bar Cocina in Chicago. And it showed out. The weather in Chicago, though, Jack, a lot was happening. We pulled into Chicago Tuesday afternoon. It almost looked like it was going to blizzard. It was so cold. That night, a thunderstorm came through. It was lightning. It was raining all day.

[00:04:01] Then maybe like 3 o'clock, it stopped raining, but it was still cloudy. Then by 6, 7 o'clock, it was humid and hot. And I guess there were tornado warnings. And so Wendell, my flight, Joey's flight, they canceled them. And not only canceled them, they rescheduled them for Friday. But the baby boy said, listen, I got to work. I got to survive the news. I had to go with another airline.

[00:04:31] Wendeezy stayed true with his airline, and they were able to rebook him, but he had a layover and something. So Wendeezy is still on his way home. Hopefully, he can pop back in. But if not, the baby boy, Jack and I can handle it. And if we have any OG Purple Pants Posse members that are still with us, if you remember, the inception of Survivor News was actually Jack and myself.

[00:04:59] So it was a lot, Jack. Chicago was amazing. I do want to, I'm sad that Wendeezy isn't here, but I do want to just talk about some things. But before we even get into that, shout out to all of our YouTube commenters that comment, that engage with us. We really appreciate it. There was one comment that was like, I don't know if it's just me. But why do they have to talk so much? Just get to the recap. And we received that.

[00:05:27] But also, shout out to the Posse that was like, baby, that's what Survivor News is. It's the friends catching up. We want to hear. One comment was like, I just like to be a fly on the wall. However, we do receive it. So I just want you to know that I will pin the comment of when we start talking about the episode in the YouTube comments so you can know if you want to just fast forward. But a couple of things I want to say, Jack. Yeah. I mean, now that we got the, we're going to pin a comment.

[00:05:57] We're going to maybe put a timestamp. So now that that's settled for, you know, whoever just wants to fast forward, we can sit back and we can just chat it up. Just chat it up. A couple of things I need to just get off my chest about Chicago. So last week, we talked about the beef that Wendell and I had at the barbecue. And I thought Jack was on my side.

[00:06:20] But when DZ posted a reel, and if you listened to last week's episode, I told you like, I just, I wasn't feeling like myself. I didn't want to do anything. And so I didn't come in like the Bryce Isaiah that Wendell knows. And so I felt like I described it on the podcast. And Wendell posted a reel. And I definitely tagged Jack. I said, Jack, look at this.

[00:06:48] And so how did I come in, Jack? Wendell was like, what you got in the bag, perp? And you're like, food. Food. Well, I was on your side. Like, you were saying you just weren't in the right headspace. And that's totally understandable. But I just thought the way you did come in, it's like. Wendell was so excited. He's like, perp, what you got? Where you at?

[00:07:15] And I was just like, food. Your mom's like, what'd you learn at school today, Bryce? Nothing. And that's the truth. But I do want to say, and so I received that criticism. I do have a praise report that in Chicago, Jack, there were no fights. Everything was great. And so I feel like sometimes I talk about Wendell and I having beefs and fights. But sometimes I don't talk about, like, positive things.

[00:07:45] And so I just want to just tell this quick story. A little sad. I don't want to get emotional. But when I was at the airport flying out to Chicago, my mom called me. And our family dog, Sunshine, who we all love and care about, was put to sleep that night before. She was having some heart issues. And we knew it was potentially coming. We just didn't know when. And so, like, my mom told me. And my mom's just kind of like a mess.

[00:08:13] My mom loves or loved and loves Sunshine. And so she just wasn't dealing with it too well. And so, and I'm my mom's favorite child. So my mom kind of, like, puts a lot on me. Not a lot, but, like, you know, I'm my mom's friend. Right. And so it was a lot for me to kind of handle, I would say. Or I just didn't know. Like, I'm trying to support my mom.

[00:08:39] And so when I got to Chicago, Wendell and Joey were on the same flight. I was on a different flight. But they picked me up. And so, again, my energy wasn't the energy that they were expecting. And I didn't really want to, like, talk about Sunshine. Because, like, I still was kind of sort of processing it. Like, I didn't realize how upset I was. Right? Like, I knew my mom was upset. But I didn't know how upset I was. And so I wasn't Bryce.

[00:09:08] But I like to think that I wasn't, like, mean or nasty. But I knew that they could sense it. And they were great friends, Jack. Like, Wendell and Joey were just like, you good? Like, let's get you to the hotel. We want to get something to eat. Like, but we know you probably want to do your own thing. So we'll leave you to be. And then later that day, I was, I kind of told them what was going on. And they were just really good friends. And I just wanted to tell that story. Because I feel like sometimes I be like, what do I not thought? And he was wrong.

[00:09:38] And so there's not often. And I said, and I meant what I just said. There's not often times I got these type of stories. No, but joking. But they were great. And I really appreciate them for just allowing me to just kind of sort of have that space. And so, yeah. Put that out there. I'm sorry to hear about Sunshine. But, yeah. I feel like you and Wendell are really like brothers from another mother. And sometimes when you're that close with somebody, you're going to fight like brothers.

[00:10:07] But when you really need it the most, those people are always going to be there for you too. Right. And sometimes being there for you is like, I'm going to let you have your space. Right. And also, like, not treat you weird. And so I think that that, for me, was really what meant the most. But Chicago showed out, Jack. It was such a great time. We had Ozzy and so many amazing people. But the thing that stuck with me the most was just the posse was in the building.

[00:10:37] And I got some messages that I needed to relay to you. And I just, you know, wanted to tell you what some of the posse was telling me. Because, first of all, you know, the posse, we friends. And so it's like we family. We go together. And so specifically, though, Jack, three Black women pulled me to the side and said, hey, I want to let you know why we listen to Survivor News.

[00:11:07] We love Survivor. And we see the discourse that's going on with Jack. And they said, is Jack biased sometimes? Yes. I agree. They said, but listen, that's why we like to listen to the podcast. They said, Jack's a young lad. He's growing. And sometimes we can't see our own bias. Me included. They're like, and you're biased, too. You like who you like.

[00:11:36] They're like, if somebody got their chest out, you fanning over them. I said, not too much. Not too much. But what they and again, three separate conversations. But the same sentiment was that. They love the fact that you stand ten toes down, whether they agree with you or not. And the fact that they wanted me to reassure you that, like, Jack, you a good person.

[00:12:02] And so whoever you align with, because we all know how Jack think and how Jack go. He's a survivor. He knows the analytical. He knows what's the best outcome. They're like, you know, stand ten toes down. And again, they express they like hearing from me. They like hearing how we go back and forth. And then they said, like, they like how I can come back and be like, you know what, Jack, you was right. Or you could come back and be like, you know what? I wasn't looking at it like that. I didn't have the information.

[00:12:30] They did say when Wendell chimes in, he adds something to it. But again, the sentiment was like. Jack, stay ten toes down. Bryce, stay ten toes down. Wendell, stay awake. Wake up. And they were just they were saying that they felt as though, like, they don't get that type of discourse from other podcasts. And they like that we will talk about things that sometimes might be a little taboo.

[00:12:57] They might be a little kind of touchy, but like, we're not scared to go there. And so, again, three separate conversations. And they were from black women and they were loving on Jack. They like, sometimes I want to fight Jack. Sometimes I want to be like, Bryce, shut up and let Jack talk. But they was like, we love Jack. And so I just wanted to like. No, that's nice to hear. Yeah, the thing I love about this podcast ever since the days that you and I just started, we did like a seven minute episode.

[00:13:27] It's that you and I, we come in hot and sometimes we come in too hot and we know that. But I think you and I really. And this is why I love you so much as a friend to Bryce, is that we really balance each other out, I feel like. And sometimes I come in too hot and you'll be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then sometimes you'll come in too hot and I'll be like, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 6, 7, 7, 8, 8, 9, 9, 10. And then, you know, and then I feel like we can both, we both learn a lot from each other too.

[00:13:56] And that's why I'm always willing to like hear other people. This is such a great community from you guys to the people in the comments. We read the comments, you know? We do. And sometimes there's comments that are real honest about me, but I feel like it's people in the posse that are coming at me, not coming at me, but coming to me as almost like an older brother or older sister or aunt or an uncle, you know, looking out for me. And so I'm always receptive to those kind of comments.

[00:14:24] And, you know, this is how me, like, this is how I grow and I learn. And I feel like I grow and I learn a lot from the posse and from Wendell and from especially you. I mean, I look back to when we first met, I was a 19-year-old lad still figuring out the world. And, you know, you added so much perspective to my life and I always appreciate that. So not to get too sentimental. Yeah, no, no.

[00:14:52] Okay, well, let's go down the sentimental role. I appreciate that. And I received that, Jack. And I sometimes feel like it's hard for me to receive compliments from people. And in the back of my head, I'd be like, they lying. But okay. But one thing that I love the most about you specifically, Jack, is that in this reality realm, you know, Jack's in L.A. A lot of people were like, why isn't Jack here? He lives in Chicago. I'm like, no, he went to school in Chicago. Also, there was a young lad.

[00:15:22] He wasn't in your fraternity, but he went to your school. And he was a sophomore. But he was letting me know that this was going to be his last semester because he got a job at a startup. And he's going to go with the startup. Jatia was there. Jatia was like, I won't yell at you. But if you're going to take that job at the startup, get stock in the company. Make it worth your while. And he was saying that that was potentially an option, but he was unsure of whether or not he should take the option.

[00:15:49] And Jatia was like, I will take your phone and smash it if you don't take those options. Get those stock options. I said, OK, come on, Jatia. But what I would say, the thing that I love the most about you, Jack, is like in this reality realm, come to all shapes, sizes. And of course, we know Jack has a particular type on Survivor that he likes to root for. However, sometimes I get a little jealous when I be out with Jack.

[00:16:16] And there are other black queer men that they love Jack. They're their best friend. They be like, Jack, hey! Jack, what's up? I'll be like, excuse me. No, I love the fact that people see you how I see you. And I love the fact that your friend group is so diverse and that there are multiple people that you hang out with.

[00:16:41] But for me specifically, I see the black girls that you're connected to, that you connect with. And I love that. And I feel like I'm like, look at the baby boy. So I received that. I appreciate that. I feel like I learned a lot from you. Just being a good vibe with whoever.

[00:17:01] And to me, the beauty of our community, the Posse, the Bryson Wynn events is that we're all connecting no matter the race, gender, sexuality. That makes a more beautiful world. And I feel like that's how you expand. That's something I pride myself on is just the diversity of my friends.

[00:17:24] Because it's just you allow yourself to learn so much more about the world and see the world through a kaleidoscope of colors. Come on. I think that's really important. To me, I always value learning and knowledge. And it's not always in the books. But sometimes it's just the way that you interact with different people. And I think at the core, that's why we love Survivor too, right? We see so much different stuff. But I know there's someone right now listening. I know, I know. We're at the 15-minute mark.

[00:17:55] Let's get to it. But real quick, though. I love this conversation, though, for sure. Absolutely. But is your water clear, Jack? Oh. Okay. I don't even fully know what that means. Oh. I don't even know the right way to answer that, right? You got a diverse friend group. Just answer it. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say it's probably good. It's giving chocolate milk right now.

[00:18:24] Listen, let's get into the episode. But before we do get into the episode, Chicago was amazing. But guess what? The Baby Boys are headed to Austin, Texas, April 23rd. And when I say the Baby Boys, it's Wendy Z. It's Jack. It's myself. And baby, we have a star-studded lineup. And the list that we have here isn't even the full list. Since we posted this flyer, even more reality royalty has hit us up.

[00:18:54] So make sure you get your tickets now at BryceAndWin.com. And then after Boston, we're headed to Philadelphia, April 30th. And then from there, we are headed to Boston, May 14th. From Boston, then there's Washington, D.C. Wow. And then there's Washington, D.C., Boston, and then the grand finale. The tour is going great. And so tickets, BryceAndWin.com. But listen, let's get into the episode.

[00:19:19] I love that I'm front and center on that. Oh, yeah. Thank you, guys. Shout out to Tricky. I mean, I like that. And I love that. And I love, you know, the multitude of special guests that we got coming. And from special guests. Some special guests. We got The Circle. We got Deal or No Deal. We got Amazing Race. We got The Challenge. Okay. We got Big Brother. Turner from Big Brother.

[00:19:49] BB26. Is it 26? He said he want to pull up. Okay. We got Asia. So, yeah. Austin is going to be a time. So, get your tickets. I have people in my DMs from the reality community after I posted the podcast saying, I got to pull up to this. So, it's the talk of the town right now. Yeah, not the talk of the town. Okay. But listen, we had an episode to get into. Jackery, like, where do you want to go with it?

[00:20:17] Because as I was watching the episode, a lot of things came to my mind. There was Jack Jones. Jack. Yeah. Jack Jones. Jack Jones was in my mind. It was a little. The music artist or the fusion of, like, me and James Jones? The fusion of you and James. So, that's what I'm calling when y'all both be on my mind. So, there is a musician named Jack Jones. Jim Jones. Wait. We fly high. No lie. We rolling. Rolling.

[00:20:46] Well, so, Bryce, hey, we didn't get into any of the episode, but you just did say that you had a lot of things. Oh, I was thinking of Jack Johnson. Oh. Okay. So, have you ever heard of Jim Jones? Just now. Have you ever heard of Dipset? Yes. Name somebody else. Name someone else that's in Dipset besides Jim Jones. Jack Jones. Have you heard of Cameron?

[00:21:14] I've heard of all these things. I can't tell you much about them, but. I don't really know. Yeah. So, like, this episode, generally, pretty straightforward, right? Like, we've come. I think we kind of see that with these, like, mergatories. But you told me that you had a lot of questions. I did. So, I just want to take it to you and let you just fire away and see where we go. Okay. Well, normally, you know, I don't like mergatory episodes.

[00:21:43] I think mergatory is dumb. I feel like if we're on the same tribe, we've merged. And if you vote me out, I'm on the jury. Like, that's just how I feel. I'm a little old school and survivor, and that's just how I feel. I always feel super bad for the person that gets voted out on the mergatory episode because I just feel like it's kind of a slap in the face. But this episode, there were so many moving dynamics and so many relationships and so many.

[00:22:13] I feel like the tribes themselves had core people that worked together. And then when we did the tribe swap, I felt like a lot of the other tribes were kind of, like, solidified in the tribe swap. And then we come back together to see how it all works. But for me, the biggest thing that I wanted to talk to you about, because I feel like specifically when we talk about the new era, Jack, right? We talk about it's not the physical strength anymore, right?

[00:22:40] It's not like you can't have someone like a Ben Drogenberg to just win your way to the end, right? They call them meat shields, right? They get them out. However, I feel like we had Shaheen, we had Joe, we had David kind of sort of come together and be like, hey. Let's put our meat together.

[00:23:08] And listen, I like to see it. I like to see them put their meat together because it's so weird. And that's why I was like, oh my God, I need to talk to Jack about this because normally the type of player that I am, I don't put my meats together, right? I'm not a part of the meat shield. I would be on the out. I'm not. I would be on the outs. You just watch from the outside?

[00:23:36] I let the meat shields come on in. I let them, you know, welcome them. But no, I would be a person that's on the outs. So I would never be a part of that. Oh, don't say that. But not, but I'm just saying, I feel like in the new era, what I love. So you don't fit the meat shield archetype. Correct. Right. But I am a meat shield in my own right. But I feel like. You're a meat attacker. Jack, you ain't never lie.

[00:24:06] Okay. You ain't never lie. It's going to take a lot of shields to stop you. You can get the whole beach of each. Okay. That's not my kryptonite. I work, I work the best, but no, Jack, stop. What I'm saying is I feel like what was refreshing in the new era was that we weren't getting these classic meatheads, right?

[00:24:35] Like we were getting these underdogs that kind of have slipped through the crack and credit to David of being like, I've seen what has going on and I don't want this to happen. And so I was like, I wonder what Jack's take on this is because old Bryce would be like, I hate this. I don't love this. But because of how the game has changed and the pendulum kind of swings.

[00:25:02] I like the fact that David was kind of holding the pendulum and trying to swing it another way. So just was curious your thought of like them being like, we are going to get the strong together and we're going to take out the people that are good at puzzles, that are super social, that are good hiding behind the meat. Hmm. Yeah, that's a great way to look at it. And I didn't, that's sort of, I wasn't thinking about it immediately, but it kind of touches

[00:25:31] on like some stuff we talked about preseason of like, now we've had so many women winners in a row and these guys haven't even seen 47 at this point. A lot of these women, I don't want to say they were under the radar per se, because we saw that they were playing the game hard, but maybe on the island, they weren't those top level threats, even though they should have been, because they were out playing everybody and they were scheming and strategizing and socializing. That's kind of what we said.

[00:26:00] That's the new archetype, I think, of a survivor winner. So I do think it's smart for these guys to be like, our archetype of the brawnier guy or girl is not winning survivor as much anymore. And so maybe in a way we're not as big of threats. And so we need to stick together and look out for each other. I can respect that sort of that flipping of strategy. And that's kind of what I predicted preseason a little bit of saying, I think this might

[00:26:27] be a man's season to win just because of the recent trend of so many women winners that that might elevate their threat level. So the other side of this is them kind of coming in and the whole spiel of like, I really want to play this game with like honesty and people with integrity. You can say that. I don't need that.

[00:26:50] Like now, yeah, like, look, just to say it is one thing, because I could tell Shaheen is kind of in there like, yeah, you want to play with honest people. But Shaheen will, you know, I think Shaheen's got some moves up his sleeve at times, right? Same with like a Kyle, who's also kind of on the one foot in one foot out of this alliance. But to be honest, like as much as I've loved like Eva and Joe as people in this game, that's

[00:27:18] the idea of them just like sticking together and loyalty and honor and integrity. That's not exciting survivor. So I hope that it doesn't work out in that way. But I have a good feel. I feel like, you know, we got the Camillas in the stays and the Mitch's on the outside of this that I think it's not in theory. It's cool that this alliance has come together, but it's not like old school survivor where you can really just like pick people off.

[00:27:45] There's going to be some twists and some turns and people on the outside that are going to maneuver, I think. And so it's it. But it is an interesting just change of perception, Bryce, like you said. Right. From what we see recently. And they they had the numbers and it could absolutely dominate. But then also you just say that makes me think about is the game of survivor not built off of deception off of like.

[00:28:13] So when someone says I want to play an honest game, what really is that? Right. Because in my opinion, an honest game of survivor is not lying to you until I have to not putting the knife in your back until I have to. Yeah. And I think like I'm not as it's tough. Like, I think there's something to be said about this game has become so chaotic.

[00:28:41] If you could actually find like a six person or seven person alliance to lock in with at the merge and just ride it to six or seven. Like that's a respectable strategy. Right. The thing is. If you're someone in that six or seven that is not in the top three or that is not going to beat the people that you're with, then that is bad survivor. Right. I don't care if I make it to the top seven if I don't have a good road to winning or to making to the final three. Right.

[00:29:11] And so the thing is, I think everybody for the most part in this new era is smart enough to have something of an understanding of like, oh, I'm not in the in the majority of this sub alliance. And so that's why it doesn't work as much anymore. But I think early in the merge, it's so there's a lot of moving pieces. I also think when you take people that are such fans of the show, like this collective group that we have, nobody wants to be that first merge vote out. They don't want it.

[00:29:40] Not so that's not like they don't. Everyone wants to make the jury. Like people want to make the jury. People want to. Also, we saw it like last we've seen it time and time again, but like Genevieve for last season makes a really big, aggressive move pretty early in the merge. Right. All of a sudden, you're target number one. So it's really like that's, I think, part of the issue with this merge at 13 is nobody really wants to like stick their head up too high and make a move.

[00:30:06] No, there's not going to be big moves at 13, really, because if you make a big move at 13, how are you going to survive like the next 10 tribal councils? And that's why I think that that's why this boot was a little bit predictable. And we've seen a little bit of it in recent seasons. And that's why I personally love like an 11 person merge and everyone's on the jury because then the numbers are a little bit more manageable. There's a little bit more opportunity to make a move.

[00:30:33] There's been more pre-merge activity, more relationships built, and it sets the tempo. And Bryce, it reminds me of Kageyan, where the merge episode was one of the best episodes of Survivor ever, where, you know, Cass flips and votes out Sarah Lucina. And that just set the tempo for a great rest of the merge. And I wonder in this new era format if that something like that really happened again.

[00:31:01] I am glad that we have this more, I'm glad we got rid of the hourglass in the merge. Like, for all intents and purposes, this is a normal merge now. And that's a lot better than I think what we were dealing with pre-47. Well, like you, Jack, I'm going to stand 10 toes down. I don't care what y'all say in the comments. You know how I feel. I like the hourglass, okay? I feel, but look at it this way.

[00:31:31] Think about the outcome of this episode if we would have had the hourglass, right? Say Chrissy or say, yeah, say, not Chrissy, say Charity was the one. And then she flipped it. I'm just saying. I mean, that's so good. But I don't know if I like, like, that doesn't make me feel better. Like, if someone else that I was rooting for more than Charity went home, because Charity had like, you know, like that would suck. But it would suck.

[00:31:57] Because there's only one person winning immunity now, so the hourglass would be different, you know? True. True. Very true. It would suck, but it would just be like a shock. And sometimes we also, as Survivor fans, need to understand that even though a person that we love, when they go home and it is unexpected, we do have to get out of our own feelings and

[00:32:19] be like, and respect that like your shockness still adds to a great episode. I will push back on that because I feel like it's when something that feels cheap happens to create shock. Sure, it might make a great episode. But say we lose someone great in this episode.

[00:32:47] But say some trickiness or some weird rule bending happens and we lose like Joe. And then, wow, it's like, wow, we lost Joe. That's a crazy episode. But now we've lost Joe for the rest of the season. I really want like the great players, the great characters to have time to build up their game. I'd rather that shock comes at like Final 7, right? Because then it's like, bam, like that's the game that you've had them built up. There's more of a story arc.

[00:33:16] It hurts more when they go home, but it hurts more in like the best way because you're like, damn, we lost so-and-so. Well, I feel like you can get hurt on episode three. Yeah, but like losing Thomas, for example, really sucked. And not to say that like there was any foul play. Like that was a totally kosher-ish like fair game episode for the most, like all things considered.

[00:33:45] But imagine we had Thomas like the whole season and that tribal happens at like Final 5. And then it's like, oh my, then it's like, oh, it really is a gut punch. Like we didn't get enough Thomas. And that's not to, that's a good example because Thomas went home fair and square. And not to say that any bit, but I do feel like. I just say that that's the name of the game of Survivor. So yeah, someone that we love or that we want to see go far. But then guess what that does? It opens the door for someone else.

[00:34:14] It opens the door for something else to be created. I do. We're always going to disagree, agree to disagree about the hourglass. Like whatever. No, I mean, like you, I can take an L. But do you agree that, I feel like you agree that it's nicer that, you know, we only have like one person who's safe. Everybody can be voted for. We like that more than like half the tribe being safe. I feel like it opens up more options. No, it does.

[00:34:44] Three different people caught votes. I absolutely agree. And I love the fact that it was 13 people voting, right? Like with only 12 people safe. That for me, I loved that feeling. I loved that take on it. So you're absolutely right. I do agree to that. I do want to shift a little bit, right? I want to talk about your girl, Say, right? Because we know Jack's always loud and wrong.

[00:35:12] But I feel like this episode, we could maybe agree on some Say things. So let me know how you feel. Mind you, after the tribal council Say came back, Cedric was like, I love to talk to everybody. Say was like, Cedric, I will talk to everybody in the morning, but you. Because she thought Cedric voted for her. Right. I mean, talk about loud and wrong.

[00:35:44] Jack. Now, yes. However, yes. In the moment with Say being left out and if Cedric is allegedly your number one, imagine how that would feel. However, I do want to commend Godfather Said for taking that initiative to clear the air. Because in that moment, he doesn't need to, right? Like, he's got Chrissy. Chrissy has Mitch.

[00:36:12] So if that's the, if that's how you, if I'm said, and that's how I saved you again, and that's how you want to come at me, Cedric could have absolutely been like, okay, we don't need to talk because I know Chrissy is with me. I know Mitch will work with me. But I loved how Cedric worked through that moment and kind of like got an understanding. I also, uh, shout out to Mitch because Say was like, well, in that case,

[00:36:40] if it wasn't you, Cedric, then it was Mitch. And Mitch was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I didn't know. I didn't know. And then fast forward, we see who Mitch votes for again tonight. Uh, I love that. However. To be fair, Say did at least like when Mitch apologized, she's like, well, you don't got to be too sorry. Cause I voted for Chrissy. Like I, you know, I can respect. That was the best part about Say handled it.

[00:37:06] But I'll maintain like coming back to camp and being like, so, I mean, this is the, this is why Say is such good TV is like, she's going to say what she wants to say. And like, sometimes it's going to be loud and wrong, but she's going to say it. And a lot of times it's really funny. And a lot of times she does like read people. Um, and it's relatable, right?

[00:37:33] There's many times in life though, Jack, that we're loud and wrong. Yeah. And survivor is a bad place to be that. Um, but sometimes she's loud and right, or sometimes she's quiet and right. So like, but that's the thing, like, look, the irony of you're like of our past beef. And I don't even want to keep it like stirring like that is just like, say, and I think are both pretty opinionated people.

[00:37:58] And so obviously some of my opinions podcasting are about her and I can see why that bothers her, but she is also as if not more opinionated than I am. And so I can respect that. And it makes good TV. And I hope she knows that like my, it's not me, uh, hating, hating. It's just me throwing out opinions. Uh, and I actually saw her again last night and she was like, um, you know, she, she said

[00:38:27] like, she's like, you know, if you didn't have opinions, podcasts, podcasts are boring. If you don't have, she was, you know, um, but wait, can, can I talk about the part that I feel like I know you, me and say would agree on, uh, after the tribe merges, uh, first of all, I want to yell at star real quick because the, the, the note said, read this when everybody's together.

[00:38:56] Star was like, come on y'all. And just opened it. I was like, okay, I love it. And essentially it was like, there is a reward for the next challenge on this Island. Find it. Everybody goes crazy. I also just want to say, I feel like it's a, a manufactured moment. Take it back to Kageon when the idol was back in play and everyone was scrambling, even Morgan, like Tony said, got out the shelter. And, and I feel like the fans loved it.

[00:39:26] That's what, uh, Wu was doing his like backflips and running around. And I feel like since then, they've always tried to create that moment. And I feel like this was another time of a homage to Kageon. However, you know, it only, it only takes a few minutes of screen time and we did get a good moment out of it. So I don't, I don't hate it, but back to you. But Jack said a good moment. I'd like to say that we would agree that Say goes off on a path. Charity finds her.

[00:39:55] Charity sees it. Charity starts running for it. And all of a sudden Say, like she was running track and jumping over hurdles. Like Jack, the way I rewatched that moment six times, because I kept trying to see where Say come in on the frame. I don't know where the fuck Say came in. She just said, wrote.

[00:40:22] And like, I was like, ah, and in my mind, I said, I know Jack. I'm going to F with that moment of saying. Oh, of course. I mean, yeah. Like, how can you not? That was awesome. Like the editing was fantastic. You got to give Say credit to like going and getting that advantage. Yeah. There's no, if anyone's hating on that moment, they're just a hater and I'm not a hater. So yeah, that moment was awesome.

[00:40:51] That editing was so cool. Like you said, like, especially her wearing all green just pops out the bushes. She was camouflaged. And it's, you think Cherry is about to get it and Say just like doinks it out. And it's kind of a metaphor for what happens later in the episode, right? Like we think Say is about to go or we think Cherry is about, yeah, we think Say is about to go. Cherry is going to be safe. Psych, you know, say safe. Cherry gone. Absolutely. Okay.

[00:41:20] So here's another direction I want to go in. Yeah. Can we talk Kyle for a second? Yeah. Before I say what I want to say about Kyle, I do just want to put out the facts. Kyle has finagled, not finagled. Kyle has put himself in a great position. He has multiple alliances that he is working with. My favorite is him and Camilla, but he also has Eva. He's got Joe.

[00:41:50] He's got Shaheen. He's got David. And I feel like this is a great episode for Kyle. We actually get to see Kyle maneuvering, making moves, doing his thing. But I rewound, re-round, rewinded. But you could say re-round, right? Re-wound, I guess. Re-wound this part three times. And I could not get the clarity.

[00:42:19] So hopefully you know, and if we are wrong, if you could let me know in the comments. After Kyle kind of solidifies that he's playing hand on the Bible, playing an honest game. Shaheen, David, Eva, Joe. I love you. Then he also, then he, in this moment, he talks about Camilla.

[00:42:44] And I, again, I rewound this part three times. In that monologue, while he's talking to Camilla, does he say that, like, he's not going to share the information about that alliance with Camilla? Do you know? Like, do you, like, I couldn't remember. I don't know if I really caught that. Okay, somebody in the comments, let me know. Because, like, I think two things about it.

[00:43:14] One, if that's how he's feeling, I'm like, okay, Kyle's clocked in more than I gave him credit, and I love it. The other part of me is, if he's not cluing in Camilla, that makes me look at him a little sideways of, like, how you playing this loyal, honest game? And I feel like, yes, Joe, David, Eva, and Shaheen are great. But Camilla, been the loyalist one, held you down. And so I think that, like, and she's made the best plays for you.

[00:43:43] So you would want to include her the most. I think it's kind of see when he was being pitched on this alliance of, like, loyalty and integrity that he wasn't fully on board with that. You know, it seems like he still had some roots with Camilla, with Mitch. Now, the question of whether he tells her or not, I'm not exactly sure. But to your point, like, he isn't necessarily 100% trying to play this loyal, honest game. He's not fully trying to play with these loyal, honest people.

[00:44:10] But with that being said, he's not necessarily going to tell everybody that he's not, like, you know what I mean? Like, he's not. Right. And that's what makes me love him. But that's what makes me mad at him at the same time, if that is the case, because it's like, baby. Like, I think he is loyal to Camilla. Yes. But because he's not trying to be loyal, like, because he's not 100% loyal in integrity, he might keep a couple things to himself. I get that. But I also feel like.

[00:44:38] I bet he's going to clue her in. I bet he is. I hope so. Because I don't know. Because what you saw in the preview for the next episode. You know, I don't watch the previews. West Coast. West Coast. Keep it cute. You know, I don't watch the previews, Jay. The previews are scared of him. But he basically was like. When airs on national TV, Jack. He was basically like. On my time zone, it's fair game. But pop off. I don't even want to get into that. Well, he was just like me in the previews. Like, me and Camilla are like the stealthiest duo to ever play this game. So I know he's locked in with her.

[00:45:09] So do I. But I don't mind it. Right. Like, sometimes if you get pulled into a different alliance, let it simmer for a minute. See where everybody's at. See if it's legitimate. Like, because he. Like, we probably don't see 90% of the alliances that are being formed. If I every time I get pulled into an alliance, I run over to Camilla. I'm like, Camilla. Like, you're giving up some of your own agency, you know? So you got to function a little bit and feel things out for yourself. You can't just like report. Report for duty every time. You're absolutely right.

[00:45:38] Even though if it is true, it makes me mad at the same time and makes me tip my hat off. And again, I'm like, Kyle's locked in. And again, I feel like. Kyle potentially could be a dark horse of this season. And I say that only because other people like Camilla, Eva, Joe, David, Shaheen, we've seen the rise of their arc, right? So it's not necessarily a dark horse.

[00:46:06] But a Kyle, I feel like we'd be like, well, where the hell did that come from? You think? I feel pretty. I've been pretty high on Kyle. I mean, obviously, I'm a Kyle fan. But even his game, like, since he and Camilla, like, teamed up, made that great move. I'm on the wave of Kyle or Camilla, I think. If I had to bet. Yeah, I am. You know I'm not a gambler, but. I do. I feel that. But again, I might be a little more Camilla than Kyle, right?

[00:46:36] But this is, again, what I will say is that I feel like Camilla might have the brains of it all. But I feel like what I got from this episode, and please be clear of what I'm saying, and this is a compliment to Kyle, is that, like, I'm like, wow, maybe Kyle might be able to execute it. Right?

[00:46:56] Well, that kind of makes me feel validated because I know when Thomas got voted out, you were very high on Camilla and didn't want to give Kyle as many flowers, which is okay. I like that you had that, and definitely that move was, like, spearheaded by Camilla. But I was like, I feel like Kyle, we talked about the alley-oop. Like, he was still, I think maybe I saw a little bit more in Kyle at that point. But now I know that you're seeing that, too. And so. I see it in a different way, right? Yeah.

[00:47:25] Camilla's still, that's why I think those two is, like, they're 1A and 1B, you know? Absolutely. I definitely can, again, I'm going to say 10 toes down, Camilla is running it. However, sometimes you can run the operation, but someone can run the same operation, but pitch it to someone else, and they'll receive it. And so, like, I was looking at Kyle like that. Again, the connections that he's making, the way he's running around, awesome.

[00:47:54] Well, that's a great point. And also, like, even if Kyle is, you know, if Camilla is the CEO and Kyle's the CFO, sometimes the CEO might get fired and the CFO steps up. And Kyle's showing that he can do the job. Yeah, absolutely. Like, sometimes there's duos where the head goes, and then the other person, they can't step up and execute and finish the job and win.

[00:48:23] But I think we know that Kyle or Camilla, if God forbid we lose one, the other is still going to be able to operate, I think. I mean, yeah. And two more things. I took a little notice with Kyle with his shirt off. I said, well, are the britches moist? I wasn't sure if the britches were moist or not.

[00:48:46] Also, when I think about this Kyle and Camilla duo, it then made me think Jesse and Cody. Like, just because they've been just piping us up of so much of like, oh, we're the duo that we've never seen. And again, like you just said, both of us can do the job.

[00:49:13] And at some point in time, there can only be one head chef in the kitchen. And so I just wonder, is that foreshadowing? And dare I say, whoever gets the best out of that, too, if it isn't a situation, they would have my full support because I am seeing it a little different. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. I do agree. Okay. No. Can we, can we. And Kyle won immunity, too.

[00:49:43] I mean, I was. And I mean, and listen, Kyle is showing out that he can do the damn thing. Like him winning immunity right now. Yeah. Super big. And normally I'll be like, oh, it's too much of a spotlight. It's too much. But the way that he has positioned himself, because even him with a David, a Eva, a Shaheen, he's not, in my opinion, any of their number ones. Right.

[00:50:09] So it's like him winning this really kind of like eases him into that alliance without the biggest threat. So no. Shout out to Kyle. Right. So I want to throw out this idea, too, and get your thoughts on a little bit.

[00:50:26] I think a lot of times for, you know, the athletic, visibly athletic guy like Kyle, I don't always love the idea of winning too many challenges early in the merge. Now, right now it's only been one. But we saw it. I mean, dare I say we saw it last season with Kyle. Kyle won a bunch. And then that's a big target.

[00:50:51] But what I think I've really started to think, I think of all the early merge challenges to win. And this is actually the best one. Because two reasons. I mean, one, maybe it's not even a specific gameplay related thing. It basically gets you to the jury. And I think obviously making the jury just in general is a huge feat. So it's like you might as well. Sorry. But it's like, you know, you're right there. Might as well get a win to secure it.

[00:51:20] Once you're on the jury, it's like, if you're 11th or you're 10th, like whatever. But on the jury, off the jury, a bigger difference. Just for like the, you know, the person to experience that. Jack, give me a second. Because my phone is ringing. Hey. My phone is ringing. Wendell. Wendell. I'm the elevator. But listen, he's not, listen, he's not even saying anything, Jack. You don't even got to say nothing, Wendell.

[00:51:50] Okay? It's classic Wendell. Classic Wendell. I don't even know where my room is. It's okay. We're just going to mute you. And then when you get situated, jump in and it'll be like survival, regular survival. Maybe we can finish this thought, Bryce, and then take a pause. And then pick it back up and Wendell comes in. Or he could stay, stay muted like you always be. So no, go ahead, Jack. Well, yeah, I was going to say the other reason I like this a lot.

[00:52:18] And maybe this just is, this is why I want your thoughts. Maybe this isn't true. I feel like maybe winning that first merge challenge, being safe. Now every, now there's 12 other names being tossed around and your name's not one of them. Maybe that puts in the back of people's minds, like they're just not thinking about you. So then when you're not safe the next time, well, they've already thrown out five other names that are probably going to stick a little bit more. So maybe just getting one right at the beginning.

[00:52:47] People, people know they can't vote for you. That's that settles into their minds. Like, oh, we can't vote for Kyle. Next time he might not win, but they haven't even been thinking about Kyle. And Jack, let's put a pin in that because it ties into my next point that I want to say, because I want to ease on down the road to charity. Let's talk charity for a second, right? Here's what I want to say about charity.

[00:53:16] What she was putting down this episode about Eva. I wasn't mad at it. Now, mind you, I love, hear me out. In the beginning, what charity was like, Eva has an idol. Like she has that relationship. We got to break it up. Like charity clocks it. So to say, like they both clock. They both are saying what no one wants to say. The issue is the timing.

[00:53:47] Right. Like, and so I, again, I'm following what charity is saying on the island. We ain't talking Twitter because, you know, that's different. A little different. But what I am saying is like. Charity's clocked in right. Like, again, she clocked some things, but we also kind of saw her pull it back a little bit. Um, and we also saw say, right?

[00:54:15] Like, again, very similar. Like we saw say, uh, saying Eva and say kind of felt like she was on the old green tribe trying to like put out Eva. Um, and then mother Mary. Let's talk about your friend, Mary. We don't want to put words in her mouth, but the way Mary ate down this episode, because we see say not wanting to talk to Cedric. Then they worked it out.

[00:54:41] Then they merge and or kind of merge, but not really merging. Uh, and then say, it's like, I'm so happy to see Mary. We got to that confessional and Mary was like, I don't want nothing to do with mother green. Get green out my face. I can't trust say like, I was just like, oh.

[00:55:06] And again, I just want to give some credit to Mary because sometimes like Taylor Swift said, you got to shake them off. Right? Like, and I think Mary similar to Kyle is in a, another great position. Yeah. You threw out a few different things there. Right. I generally agree with all of them. And now we got Wendell settling into, so he can chime in on this as well.

[00:55:35] I'll take it to the charity thing. Okay. That's the thing. Like, I think the Eva has talked about how she's not necessarily great at reading social situations. The irony, I think of this episode is that the biggest social misread was charity and also a little bit say where, were they right that Eva and Joe and Eva is a threat? Like, absolutely.

[00:56:02] But literally the day after Eva has this moment with Joe and comes clean about this really beautiful story that she's opens up and shares. The day after, when you all get together, it's not the day to bring that up. Right? Like, that is really the issue that they both mess up. Were they right? Like, yes, of course Eva's a threat, but it's the final 13.

[00:56:27] Like, just have a human moment and just like acknowledge it and then understand that everybody else who's being a little bit more empathetic is probably not going to want to target her first. So, that's really the issue. And I think you kind of hit the nail on the head, Bryce, with where charity was coming from.

[00:56:47] Charity is such a curious sort of thing here because, like, we saw a lot of players speaking kind of negatively about her. But there wasn't that many times, like, watching the show that she seemed that negative. Now, if you follow her socials or have seen some bits and pieces, maybe that explains some things. I don't know. But it's a little bit weird.

[00:57:15] Like, it's like, why did all these players not like charity? Like, we never really saw it. We saw she had a really great relationship with Mitch and was very, like, supportive of Mitch. So, I don't really know. But, yeah, it doesn't shock me. We also saw that I think she thought she had a lot more footing in the game than she did. And it's hard to know that she didn't for her because she never went to tribal. So, I guess it's like, okay, she thinks she has good trust with people. And there hasn't been an opportunity for her to not necessarily believe that.

[00:57:44] But it's just like, you know, her going to star and being like, you've got to get your idol back. Like, that's a big, that's an overstep. You know, things like that. It's not, but it is. It's not, but it is. Right. But it's just, she's not the person in the position of B telling other people what to do. Right. Again, she's not wrong. But, like, don't come to me. Or even her being like, I think she said at some point in the episode, like, oh, I got Siva on lock. Like, when she was talking to, like, some loggy people or whatever.

[00:58:14] She's like, oh, I can easily get all these people. It's like, again, I guess she doesn't know that she hasn't. Like, they've told her they're with her. But it's just a little bit, she got too many eggs in her own basket. You know, so. You brought up an interesting point, Jack. And now that Wendeezy is clocked back in. Welcome, Wendeezy. You want to just, because I want to bring something to the head.

[00:58:41] But before that, how you feeling? How you doing? Welcome, welcome, welcome. It's been a long day, man. It's been a long day, but we here. It's good to be here. I am in Orlando. Yeah. I just checked in. I got my snacks. Also, Jack, can you help me understand why, if you win a million dollars at some point in your said life,

[00:59:10] you know, I'm third boot. If you book a flight. If you book a flight, sometimes paying that extra $25 to protect your flight, it's not frugal. It's logical. I get flight protection every time. What do you mean? So how do you have? Okay.

[00:59:35] Explain to us how you have flight protection, but you're in Orlando and I'm in Philadelphia. Because I had a layover. Actually, $400 price. Wow. Because I had a layover. And because of Mother Nature. No, they probably rebooked you for free, right, Wendell? Yeah. I mean, yeah, you get flight protection. That doesn't just mean a new flight suddenly appears. There he has. Classic Wendell. You know what? We're not doing that right now. Well, protection, I think, is a scan, by the way.

[01:00:05] I'll say it. Thank you, Jack. Because if your flight gets canceled and you don't have flight protection, they still rebook you for free. So thank you. That's why I don't ever get flight protection. Well, yeah, I did. More like bag protection. It's like. But it's not because I was able to rebook and I was able to get all of my money back from my round trip, not just the portion of my trip.

[01:00:33] Which, again, is why I'm in Philadelphia. Yeah. And Wendell. Christ, this isn't about me right now. Okay. But no, but also, since you have clocked in, Wendell, I did start the episode off singing your praises. Jack, am I lying? Not lying. About what? You'll have to. No, Jack, don't tell him. No, Jack, don't tell him. You'll have to get in the comments like you were this week. You're going to have to watch him. Let's do it. I watch it every week.

[01:01:04] Okay. Now, wait. Since Wendell was here, and this is something that y'all are going to be here, it all started. And Jack brought it up a little bit. I do have a nomination for our first ever Britches. I had one, too. Is it going to be the same one as I had? I don't know. Because I think, well, and maybe Wendell will have a Britches award as well. A Britchie. Britchie. Sorry. Can I go? Is it okay? I don't want to talk over you, Jack.

[01:01:35] Yeah. Okay. You know they be in the comments cussing me out. My Britchie award this week goes to Star. Yes. Oh, wait. Are we on the same page, Jack? Yeah. Yeah. Jack hit me over the head with some meat. What? Whoa. Sorry. Bryce came out of his first Britchie, and he got a little Bricky. Yeah. Sorry. I thought you were wearing my meat shield. No.

[01:02:05] I... Okay. Yes. Sorry. The Godfather Cedric had a tough week. However, every V-Lon has a kryptonite. You watch the HBO, The Penguin, like we know The Penguin, okay? Uncle Ceddy. Hates to see a wall coming. Yeah.

[01:02:36] Okay. Hey, Uncle Ceddy. He might handle the tush, but he does not. He's not from Philly. Because he does not... What if he handles the tush? He's a... Yes. Uncle Ceddy handles the tush, but Uncle Ceddy is not from Philly and doesn't know the tush push. Uncle Ceddy can't use his arms and his feet at the same time. But listen, that's okay. We all have our kryptonite.

[01:03:05] Window is cheap, okay? I'm a hothead, okay? Jack... A lot of things. Jack's a lot of things. However, and we see this emotional moment with Ced, which touched a lot of us, but it was Star for me.

[01:03:23] It was the way that, on so many different levels, Star being a human, Star being a Black woman, seeing a Black man, and said, no, no, no, sir. What we are not going to do, pick your head up, put your crown on. And empowering Ceddy, and saying, like, I see him. But at the same MFing time, let's be clear, Star's playing the game.

[01:03:52] Star knows where tribe she came from. Star's like, I need to open my forest. I need to, like, plant new seeds. Also, that's not the only thing Star did. Charity came to Star. Clearly, that's a relationship that was there. And Charity said, girl, get your idol back. And Star said, you know what? You right. Let me go. You know what? Charity, I'm going to go get it back. Be right back. BRB.

[01:04:22] I mean... Star went on running... That was a shooting star. Okay, that was a shooting star. Star. A comment. Okay, a comment. Star said, Eva, come here real quick, girl. Listen, I don't got time to play, but just know I'm not lying. Okay? So you know I ain't lying. Charity said your name.

[01:04:46] And again, building trust in the same person that, like, she's built trust with the idol, giving her the idol. But also, we see what Star giving the idol to Eva has done. Right? Like, the multitudes of layers of Star's game coming together. And then, the icing on the MF and Kate. I don't know. When they were at the...

[01:05:13] When they were at the feast, this was icing on the cake. And they were telling people... Now, this is also where I wanted to cut Star out at. Like, you doing too much, but I'm gonna let you live. When they said, Y'all know Eva got the idol. Star had the goddamn nerve to say, Well, that's news to me. Oh, really?

[01:05:43] Girl! Girl! That's your idol! I didn't notice that. I didn't notice that either. Look at that. I agree. Yeah. The Star has just been leading with such authenticity that feels so genuine that it is opening up doors for her. Because how can you not be out there and, like, want to hang out and, like, get along with Star? And it feels like if you need a laugh, Star's there.

[01:06:12] If you need someone to lift you up, pick your chin up, Star's there. And Star's also showing a little bit of strategy coming through. So, it's really... That's just what I love about Star. And that's why I was also gonna suggest a britchie for Star. But, Wendell, you just got in. So, give us your thoughts about this. You look like it, too. But just, like, general big takeaways.

[01:06:39] We haven't talked too much about Tribal, but we've talked a little bit about, like, where charity might have gone wrong. And we talked about just the mergatory in general. So, where's your head at with this episode? Yeah, I thought it was a good episode. I was excited for my buddy Kyle this episode, you know? Yeah. He stood out, you know, got the job done in epic form against... It was down to him and David, right? And Star. And Star.

[01:07:10] Star was crushing it, too. But the last two was him and David, right? No, I think it was him and Star. Him and Star. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, that was a great challenge. It was great to see Kyle. If I were giving out the Britchie, it would have been... My Britchie would have been to Kyle. Okay. So, listen. Listen. Sometimes the Britchie gets moist, okay? And it's not just, you know...

[01:07:37] No, we're not giving Britchie moistness to other people. It's one Britchie in an episode, right? It's multiple thoughts. Do we have to... Maybe the way we do our Britchie is that we each, you know, have our Britchie of the week. And the Britchie is only really given if we're all unanimous. And that's the sanctity of the Britchie. I have a proposal. Sure. Because... A what? A proposal.

[01:08:07] Okay. Because these are Bryce's Britchies. Our Britchers don't get wet, Jack. No, no. Well... Because they're Bryce's Britchers. Time out. Time out. May I finish? May I finish? No. No. May I finish? I'm speaking. Time out. I'm speaking. Time out. Your Britchies don't get wet? No. All right. You don't got them Lululemon shorts. You don't got them Lululemon shorts.

[01:08:38] No. Get out of here. Get out of my Britchies, bruh. What I'm trying to say is this. Jack, traditionally you and I don't speak about our Britchers getting wet. And... Doesn't mean that they don't. Fair enough. Fair enough. The only proposal I have is that we all throw out there who gets our Britchie award. But who has the final say is Bryce Isaiah.

[01:09:08] Sure. I mean, that works. But my thinking was like, we want the Britchie to sort of be exclusive. It doesn't have to be every week. So I guess final say, like you said, it comes down to Bryce. But I don't want us to feel like every week we got to come to a Britch census. You know? It could be like, it could be like maybe nobody was Britchtacular this week and we table it for another week. I don't think it needs to be Britch unanimous. I don't.

[01:09:36] But I think that we think about it. And if Bryce chooses to... Agreed. Okay. Wendell, put your right hand out right now. You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth. So help you, Britchie? I do. I just need a yes or no answer. No. I didn't even ask the question. Okay.

[01:10:07] Jack, is he sworn in? Yes. Yes or no? So, after this day of travel that you have just had, are your Britches moist currently? No, I'm not sweating at all. I'm just tired. No, my Britches are pristine. He lying. I swear. And I smell really good, Bryce. I smell really good.

[01:10:36] I can tell by how that shirt looks. Bryce, I smell good. I got an undershirt. I'm good. You know what? We're not doing this right now. We're not doing it. It's not about me. It's about the Britchie recipient right now. Okay. Well, are we Britchie in right now? Okay. Oh. Will we say star again? Given.

[01:10:59] It also makes me reflect on maybe the treatment that star was given early on. Kind of like because their star shines so bright that sometimes it's like you, it's the easier thing to go after. And I think that we are seeing this now where star did something that I couldn't do, right? Like she's made it to the merge.

[01:11:29] She's able to like let her star shine in ways that we don't even think about, right? Like we have David saying like, it's the meat shields. And I'm here for the meat shields. So we're clear. But also like, and David saying, we're going to get the smarts, all of the puzzle people out. But also then here comes star in this different category of just like a real ass human being, right?

[01:11:56] That like sees, that cares, that knows what it's like to be on the outside. That's like, I don't want that for anybody else. I want to, and then using what she knows about say Eva and the Joe. Charity comes and brings her this information. And even at tribal, and also stars funny as hell. That moment of her sitting by the beach being like, star, we did it. Yes, we did. Take a moment.

[01:12:24] That, that's what I do every day. Or with a pen at tribal council. Yes. Dancing up there. Again, I said this about Kyle. I said, Kyle has a dark horse arc. I could see star as well. Totally. Does Kyle have a dark horse arc? Yeah, I disagree on that. I feel like he's been a contender for me. We talked about that. He looks strong.

[01:12:54] And that's why I don't think, I don't think it'll be him. So here's the thing. Kyle looks strong, but he also doesn't like respectfully. What I'm saying is like, he doesn't look strong. He looks strong, but he doesn't look strong. What does that mean? Yeah. What does that mean? Because they're literally talking about how strong and handsome he is all over the Twitters. Oh, man. I did say before you got here.

[01:13:23] Didn't know if the britches got moist when his shirt was off. But no, what I'm saying is like, when I see a Joe and I see a David, right? Like, those are the immediate threats. It's not a Kyle. Not that he's not strong. I'm just saying it's like, he's kind of like, you know. I think where me and Wendell are coming from is that I get what you're saying about Kyle. But from episode one, he's shown he's got chops strategically, socially.

[01:13:52] He's been, he's gotten a lot of confessionals too. I mean, that's a factor of like a dark horse. Whereas Star, I would agree, is a dark horse. She was on the bottom. We didn't see a ton of Star. And now the Star has just been illuminated. And now it's like, could Star really do this? That's a dark horse for me. Yeah. And Star's Star hasn't really been illuminated, right? It's illuminated to us as the viewers because we're getting to see it. But it's like, it's, yeah. Okay. It was an eclipse.

[01:14:23] But Kyle's been like, from day one, Kyle looked like he was in solid position, right? Right. So. Okay. I can give you that. Yeah. But let's see. Kyle is almost like a, a more genuine, a more genuine Caleb. Okay. Because like Caleb was just, it seemed now we know Caleb in real life. He's a great guy.

[01:14:50] It seemed on the island like he was just giving everyone lip service and just doing the smile. He's a schmoozer. Yeah. Whereas Kyle, it seems like he's not a schmoozer. He is like, he's making these connections. He's being real genuine. That. Okay. When you put it like that, I can receive that. Yeah. Because I, I, I feel like it's like, I almost, I'm like, I want the Caleb effect. Right. But I can't say that. And then be like. Caleb was like so charismatic.

[01:15:18] It was almost like too, too, too, too big, too much of a threat. Yeah. And I'd almost say in challenges, Caleb was better. And that's also, I guess, a little disarming for a cop. Like that also helps Kyle be a little more relatable. I think. Maybe I could be. Maybe I can. That Lulu tribe didn't do too hot. That's true. They were as bad as.

[01:15:47] Not to say it was Caleb's fault, but. But no, I know what you mean. What, what else from this episode really stuck out? Now, I will say, I mean, not to get to the end of things, but that was really interesting the way they read the votes. Usually it's, you know, they, they do a couple. And then once they, once those saves started coming in, it was like, oh, it's all going to be said. But then there's like five say to charity once.

[01:16:16] And then it's, oh, and then it's back to charity. It's like, whoa. Tell me the last time they read 13 votes. I know, but I mean, usually the order would be like, oh, it's, it's like say charity, say charity. And then at the end it's charity, charity, charity. But this time they went like charity, Cedric, say charity, say charity, say, say, say. And then charity, charity, charity, charity, charity. That was because once those saves started coming in, it was like, it's saved by the hell.

[01:16:46] It was done. Good TV. Yeah, exactly. No, I loved it. I liked that a lot. Um, I feel like it keeps on our toes more because we kind of know how that usually hook things up. Now, here's the last thing I want to say. And that's the, where I want to end it at. Now, my, this might be a little spicy, uh, cause I had to rewatch cause I want to see where all the votes went. And when I saw Cedric's name, I said, who the hell put Cedric down?

[01:17:15] And then when I saw that it was my girl, Cedric. Wait till she goes on. She didn't explain how it was the best movie of all time. Well, I don't think so because I also, well, no, because like, I don't think so because also before this episode came out, they showed the sneak peek of say returning to the camp, uh, and like essentially say being like, I'm talking to everybody in the morning, but not you Cedric.

[01:17:45] And that like, and say retweeted and was like, Cedric was right. So I, I do think, you know, they did have a come to Jesus, but clearly, um, say has not forgiven Cedric at all. She was still hot. But my question. Sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. I think we're going, I think we're going to say emotional though, or was there some strategy behind it?

[01:18:13] That's my question because it's like, and my Cardi B voice with love say. What was the reason? Because you clearly know the votes are between you and charity. So like, I want to know, like, why throw that? Like, who were you talking to? That's that Cedric. It's what I want to know. Yeah. It feels like she cooked it up herself.

[01:18:42] Feels more emotional, but maybe there's a component of like, oh, I want to separate myself from Cedric. So I'll throw a vote at him. Maybe, maybe behind the scenes they said, but it doesn't make sense to me. Like, especially when you know you might be in contention, put your vote on the other person. Don't, don't play around. Cause a split vote could easily be twisted around if, you know, charity votes for say, and someone switches a vote and say doesn't vote for charity. I agree.

[01:19:10] I do also just want to say, cause I do want to know, say what was the reason? Well, you know, your name is on the block, but I also do want to say out of anybody, this whole season say has been held to the cross this entire, like no one else had, like say has had a time. Like she's been fighting for her life. Yeah. That'll test it.

[01:19:39] Every episode. Well, that's why it's so like, that is entertaining. Like nobody's been under fire as much as say, and been able to, even like to be able to maneuver out of it as much as she has in recent memory. Like I couldn't really tell you anybody, but that's why I will maintain my stance of like, there are critiques to be made. Like it's, it's not a great position to be, you know, um, but we'll see what, what shakes out.

[01:20:04] I mean, obviously she could keep it rolling and keep dodge, dive, dip, duck, dodge for the rest of the way. And, you know, I'd have to eat my words, but I think just on the, on a baseline, like, right. You don't want to be catching folks every, every travel. Yeah. Well, needless to say, episode six was crazy. We have merged. Charity has gone home. Wendeezy, give us the final word. The only thing I'll say is this.

[01:20:34] It's been a long day. This is a great season. Like lots of it's, it's again, we looked at certain casts before and we're like, oh, this looked like it has all the characters looking at this cast. We didn't necessarily see a bunch of unicorns out there. We didn't see a bunch of Tevens, you know, but this cast is delivering.

[01:20:58] And some of the people that you don't think like I'm here for the Kyle Camilla sneak alliance. I'm so excited to see where that goes. I think she's got some stuff brewing, you know, this is just, it's a great season so far. And I'm excited to see how that dynamic works, how this strong milk drinking alliance works. And whoa. Can we say two people gallon a day? That's crazy.

[01:21:30] That's it. I mean, I would say it can't be healthy, but I think Joe and David look a little better than I do. But that's like a lot of milk. Like if you drink that like in a couple hours, you'd be sick. So it's like, they really must be regimenting this milk. I didn't think all that milk was healthy. I mean, well, studies have shown cow milk is not really for human consumption. But I mean, listen, I ain't mad.

[01:21:58] So my final words are these. There are a handful of people that look like winners. There are a few dark horses this season. I can't wait. I can't wait to see how it shakes out. We're only in episode six. We're halfway through. Okay. How was Chicago? Oh, you know what, Jack? I didn't even get to tell you, Jack. At one point in the night. Okay, Jack.

[01:22:25] Joey and I, shout out to Joey Hatch because Joey Hatch did his thing in Chicago. Okay. Actually, you know what? Joey and Bryce did their thing in Chicago. At one point in the night, Jack. Joey and I are breaking things down while people are still moving around. Joey's standing on things, cutting things down. I'm wrapping things up. All of a sudden, we see people were outside. We see these flashes coming into like the inside. We're like, what's going on?

[01:22:54] We see Wendell with our flag, our Bryson Wynn flag. I was waving it. I was dancing with it. I was wrapping it up, but I was having a good time, Jack. I was, Jack, so confused. Speaking of a good time. I was a flag person at the time. You know, I was having a good time in Austin. Oh. You don't want to get me with a flag.

[01:23:21] Austin is going to be one of those where it's like a mini finale. Yep. Hold on real quick. It's crazy. I feel like the Bryson one's already been rolling like heavy, and then Bryce was listing off like we still got. Look at the footwork. Look at the footwork. Okay. Classic. Y'all got to see. Classic. Look at the footwork. He did eat that footwork up to him.

[01:23:52] He did. He did eat that footwork up to him. Keep the footwork going. You might get a britchy. Anyway. Okay. Real quick, then we can end it. If moist britchers are a britchy, what is a shh? What's a shart?

[01:24:22] What? Bryce, we're going to lose subscribers. You are disgusting. That's what we give to the worst player of the episode. The worst player gets the shh? The shh? The shh? The shh? Who gets the shh? He's the shh today. Congratulations, charity. No. Okay. All right. No. No.

[01:24:52] No. No. I'm about to give y'all a shardy. He got it. People are going to repost on their story like, I won the shardy award. What's a survivor? Thank you to the person that screen grabbed Jack holding his shea butter lotion. Really appreciate it. That was a risky repost from me, but. Jack added it to his story. You know, Jack don't.

[01:25:20] Jack's particular about his stories. Okay. Jack is good for giving you one of these. It'd be a photo. Okay. And then the caption will be like in the cab trying to figure out why the earth is round, but we're going straight. Okay. I'll be living for Jack's captions. Okay. You think the IRS going to fuck with me if I've been a good boy? I've been a good boy.

[01:25:51] I mean, it's a good question. Jack, you know when I find your stories funny when I be happy. I know. I know it was a banger when you sent me like the sideways crying laughing. If you're not following Jack Atkins 21, you need to get into his stories. They are great. And if you want some inspiration and you want some motivation, make sure you're following

[01:26:15] Wendeezy Holland because he do love to post all the good little captions and the stuff we appreciate. Well, all right. Wendeezy's tired. Thank you for being able to hop in, Wendell. Yes. Jack got it. Thanks for bearing with me. Yes. Okay. Jack got it. Got it. Why we got it in so quick, Wendell? Because Jack has somewhere to be. I don't know. But he said, I got a meeting. No.

[01:26:45] Oh, there's a meeting. Classic Jack. All right. This has been your Survivor News. We appreciate you. We'll see you next week. Bye. Sharti. It's the Purple Pants. It's the Purple Pants Podcast.

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