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[00:02:51] Hello hello and welcome to the purple pants podcast survivor news edition episode 367 Dig Deep.

[00:03:07] I serve as your humble and also gracious host Bryce Isaiah and I thank you so much for tuning in

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[00:03:53] joined this week with when DZ Jack Atkins and Alex Brizard from Netflix the circle season four we

[00:04:01] are here this week talking all things by new and what happened there we're talking tribal we're

[00:04:08] talking the challenge we're talking who's beware idle is this that I found so much so listen let's

[00:04:15] get into this week's survivor news

[00:04:46] got's how are we doing today welcome back to another episode of the purple pants podcast survivor news

[00:04:52] we are cracking in episode four and as always I got the baby boys with me the first merge group

[00:05:00] of survivor winners at war but you may also know them as the winner of survivor ghost island

[00:05:05] the boy when they'll haul in how we doing do well don't well how you doing doing well I guess

[00:05:11] I'm doing the intro today as always your glorious leader the one and only Bryce Isaiah how are we doing

[00:05:23] right I'm wonderful was popping was popping uh and then I guess the reason I'm doing my the

[00:05:30] intro today because we got my main man from the circle popping in with us to do a survivor breakdown

[00:05:37] Alex Brizard the circle season four how are you I am doing well I do need to be honest with you guys

[00:05:44] I did tell the other tribe that Wendell was a really good player and I did say that Jack and

[00:05:50] Bryce were really close was that bad should I not have done that was that not a good thing to do

[00:05:57] I did do that though yeah guys let's poke him out too much Alex is out of here

[00:06:04] no I'm happy to be here glad I told you guys before we got on here we have a lot to discuss good bad

[00:06:11] Bannu we got a lot so I'm excited to be here yes it is an episode with a lot of discussion

[00:06:19] that we need to talk about but before we get into all of that you know Alex we got some house rules

[00:06:24] and some house announcements that we gotta get through because the Bryce and Wendell 246 is

[00:06:29] officially kicked off we have New York done we've got DC done and we are headed to Pittsburgh

[00:06:36] April 3rd and Pittsburgh definitely shows up and so listen if you know Pittsburgh you know

[00:06:42] and then April 10th we are headed to Dallas this ain't Texas and so we have a lot of

[00:06:50] surprise and special guests coming to Dallas so if you haven't already take this as your

[00:06:55] science a click the link in the Bryce and Wendell present Instagram or Twitter and bless you live

[00:07:01] with some BWP 246 when easy what you think I think both of these dates are gonna be great

[00:07:09] the tour only gets better and better as we go so Pittsburgh we got some great surprises

[00:07:14] Dallas same thing we've been putting together our all-star lineup from both of these places it's

[00:07:18] gonna be great and and all roads lead to the finale Bryce yeah it's a destination in New York City

[00:07:27] you guys need to come get some hotel stay for a couple days we're gonna have multiple nights of events

[00:07:32] and yeah and each and every event leading up to the finale is gonna get bigger and better until

[00:07:40] we get there so don't disrespect Boston because Boston comes in with a force and don't you dare

[00:07:46] disrespect Philadelphia because those stops are definitely stops that you know if you can make it

[00:07:52] come out and experience the fun of a Bryce and Wendell present event oh ish ish

[00:08:02] which I just I've seen that uva driver but yes chicago is going to be one heck of a time

[00:08:10] before we kick things off Alex I do have a question for you yeah please

[00:08:14] do you know where Kate Middleton is oh gosh you know I've been on twitter I've been doing my

[00:08:20] detective work I was actually gonna ask you guys do you think it would be easier or harder to

[00:08:25] find Tim on this season I was wondering like Kate or Tim it might be a little difficult so we'll

[00:08:31] have to put on our detective hats Alex when you go to one of those challenges yeah that's true

[00:08:39] you see Tim of the challenges it's but it's it's not a body double like the TMZ photos of Kate so

[00:08:45] gosh I don't know where she is honestly honestly it's probably just the worst PR disaster

[00:08:50] I but okay so I noticed this the viber news though but Alex have you ever seen the crown

[00:08:55] yeah yeah not I'm not finished but I mean like I know the history of it all so spoilers

[00:09:00] it's crazy seeing the crown crown in 4k like yes like y'all really thought

[00:09:08] we was going to believe that that was Kate like it was bad it was very clearly photoshopped

[00:09:14] did Bado think that if he took him came with the truth like they would be like okay Bob classic

[00:09:23] bano you know you like that transition all right Jack take it away what we got what we cook in a day

[00:09:33] man what are we cooking with 46 not a whole lot but wow you're trying to get

[00:09:42] Andy watch watch out Andy learned his lesson you better be careful Jack Andy learned the lesson

[00:09:48] the hard way Bryce is cooking something I am cooking if you guys are hungry

[00:09:54] I do have a pair of hodo wait I brought out these are Corey war ends okay if y'all are hungry

[00:10:10] I am cooking on a stove this yeah can you hurry up we need to cook some rice in that when you're

[00:10:15] done yeah there's a net I mean now maybe it's not something we see did you guys

[00:10:25] boil your clothes like that so I have seen people do that the nine days that I was out there we

[00:10:31] just kind of washed our stuff what I would do in the ocean yeah and yeah but I will

[00:10:39] you know I mean I would like to know what often's rice tastes like

[00:10:47] we gotta figure out did they do that last season that's the real question I'll give you some

[00:10:51] I'll give I'll give some game to some future survivor players the way I wash my clothes

[00:10:57] if you we talk about in the game and not on ex out I would

[00:11:04] it's crazy because when I ended up on the edge of extinction that was still three times longer

[00:11:09] in the game than Bryce but okay but coming from winning and in the first merge boot is still like

[00:11:17] I don't know jack what is the statistics on that first merge boot better than the third pre-merged

[00:11:23] boot because that's what we need to start referring to you as I mean you know prior to

[00:11:29] did you make it three episodes well listen that's a trick question okay because the first

[00:11:35] episode it got y'all was two hours that's two episodes didn't even make it to anyone

[00:11:43] this in time to write gentlemen um ladies and gentlemen whoever comes after us if you want to

[00:11:49] wash your clothes on survivor here in the med box they have a gigantic thing of hand sanitizer

[00:11:58] my strategy was and I wore jeans on the island and that's debatableized so whether or not

[00:12:02] that's a good strategy my strategy was I take my jeans to the med box and I take that hand sanitizer

[00:12:08] and just load it up on the jeans fold them up bring them to the ocean and scrub it in the ocean

[00:12:15] let that sit out and they smell great and they're clean I think smells big out there

[00:12:24] thank you guys that's what you do I mean great provider for the tribe if somebody gets a cut but

[00:12:34] uh where's the hand sanitizer uh windows use to get to wash his pants it's an unlimited stash the

[00:12:41] tub is like this big and handsome you could bathe in the hand sanitizer that's a window when I

[00:12:47] picked you up from your house uh the other day is that what you use the washer clothes because sorry

[00:12:54] I mean we can off to a rough start but if you want to do that let's go ahead check I jack windows

[00:13:00] my car's in the shop can you take me to Lose I'm like okay jack and Alex he got in my car

[00:13:07] and mind you I'm the king of smells right like jack I know what you smell like

[00:13:10] Alex I've never met you in person but like I just I I I'm just a smeller and window normally

[00:13:17] does not have a scent and it's like listen I've smelled who windows closed before like he doesn't

[00:13:25] have a scent oh he got in my car I was like this is interesting

[00:13:34] Bryce you're lying see this is the thing I was like window like

[00:13:40] you got trash in your pants like Bryce oh first Bryce you know what you do it's the

[00:13:48] we're gonna compare my smell to the smell of your car not too much okay not too much take

[00:13:56] that's been in my car jack did my car smell I don't have a good sense of smell

[00:14:01] well I mean I've been in your car check it out I'm not looking at smells Bryce like you okay all right

[00:14:08] it's no joke you need to teach Paul knew how to give answers that was a really good answer for

[00:14:13] tribal thank you we're just we're all just here by the

[00:14:21] Jeff the inflection was perfect yeah I'm I am I'm chilling with the homey

[00:14:29] the hard G on chilling and so yeah I guess we'll get into it this is kind of what the episode

[00:14:41] is a bed like though is well I don't want to throw shade it's like just random conversations going

[00:14:48] down like that much through line and that's kind of what we're doing right now I do have hopes for

[00:14:54] the season look I don't want to knock it but it is it has been rough so far in my opinion and I know

[00:14:59] Alex you referenced I guess Andy Heron from Big Brother 15 said something about it and I

[00:15:04] guess they came for his neck yeah well what mess with them right before he's six years I think

[00:15:10] you know pretty objectively speaking the so far it hasn't been too hot and so I think if I were

[00:15:15] you I'd rather be like look it started a little slow but it's gonna get hot you know what I mean not

[00:15:20] wait what it does it's like okay we're like yeah but if you're out here being like

[00:15:27] the red is better better back with electric this is our great season like

[00:15:32] but it's kind of like all right I think we might be a little bit biased and I mean shout to my

[00:15:37] guide Jolinski on ironically the best part of the season so far I'll say what I have again

[00:15:44] Jack said I'll finish what Andy Heron started yeah Andy threw the lob it's like eight

[00:15:50] to a brun but I still have high hopes here's the thing like going into neck not to get too far ahead

[00:15:56] but you know next episode we're gonna get one of three things we're gonna get Yannis 3 has to split

[00:16:01] up the tribal or we're gonna get a fresh seagull or nami tribal and I'm very interested to see how

[00:16:06] those tribes would play out so I'm hoping that next episode really gets the ball rolling um but I

[00:16:12] I didn't hate this episode it's just yeah there hasn't been a lot of

[00:16:16] real action so far can I just want to really get really quick rice um uh to all the friends of

[00:16:23] the show that might be on survivor 46 um the thoughts and views

[00:16:28] I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm gonna hold

[00:16:31] comfort Jack you guys as a unit comfort jack this is jack twitter you know

[00:16:38] Jack can't Jack can't I will not 21 21

[00:16:43] okay just know you don't know here here as well stand by it's not me saying oh this cast is terrible

[00:16:50] it's there's the sound bite there's the sound no it's it's okay you know the second tribal

[00:16:58] episode is really long it kind of dragged in the bruise where you predictable

[00:17:02] episode three unfortunately we get a random out of that there's no interesting tribal and then here

[00:17:07] we don't even have a vote so it's like I'm not mad at any of the players I'm not playing in the cast

[00:17:13] but someone it's not gonna see the fendin while those three last episodes were good

[00:17:18] I think you have a really hard talk he's digging like the seagull tribe now I'm hoping to bridge these

[00:17:23] these two opinions here and find the middle ground I think it does not feel like the game has

[00:17:30] progressed a whole lot we spent two hours on a jolinsky boot that maybe should have been

[00:17:37] banu then we spent two hours on a Jess vote that maybe should have been banu and then we have

[00:17:42] spent these last two episodes so three hours on a banu vote out so it does not really feel like

[00:17:50] there has been a whole lot of forward progress in the season and I'm hoping this was almost like

[00:17:55] the damn has broken and like Jack said the game can move on from here and I know there's a lot

[00:18:00] of people that are being harsh on banu and I'm joking around on him but I would much rather see

[00:18:06] banu like more banu is out there than just you know 18 complete game bots the whole time

[00:18:12] yes yeah I also I have a take I don't think personally this season has been as bad as the critics

[00:18:19] right I do believe it has been slow right but ain't nothing wrong with slow and steady and what

[00:18:25] I find really interesting then I've said this before with the 90 minutes the edits the cracks

[00:18:32] the glimpses of the things that they are showing us amongst this slow motion right for me is

[00:18:41] I'm salivating did I say damn right okay no so I'm so salivating salivating salivating salivating

[00:18:54] stop I'm especially with you ok I am Austin at the mouth as this like these cracks right because

[00:19:06] they are telling us the story right and it's like if y'all they are deceptive in the edits right

[00:19:11] like we know this right and so it's like it's a game of clue it's a game of puzzle they are dropping

[00:19:16] little nuggets like player ready player one they're dropping little nuggets and I'm picking up all of

[00:19:22] love them. And like you said, when the damn overflows, I have things that I am

[00:19:28] queuing in on. I have players in my mind that I'm like, Oh, I need to see what

[00:19:32] they want to do. What's going to happen here? What's going to happen here? And so for me

[00:19:36] it's like a murder mystery. And you know, the dinner just got served. Yeah. Yeah

[00:19:44] this was the first act. Yeah. I totally agree with that and I still have high hopes

[00:19:49] for the season. But I was by so far, like I think Alex is proud to perfectly within

[00:19:55] probably half an hour of the premiere we could have been like, okay, Bonnie, Joinsky

[00:19:59] and Jess are in tough shape. And it's been about five hours of that. Yeah. And I

[00:20:04] actually liked Bonnie a lot. I thought he was super entertaining and had a lot of

[00:20:07] art. I know if you've found one I hate so far. But I love what brought me about to

[00:20:12] the table. But at the same time, I can't do that forever. I saw a statistic

[00:20:16] window in four episodes. Bonnie had three fewer confessional than you had all of ghost

[00:20:22] Island. That is a crazy statistic. What? He had 35 professionals in four

[00:20:29] episodes. But here's another thing that I was thinking about. Bonnie, I was like they

[00:20:34] don't even need to pull him for confessionals his external monologues. They were the best

[00:20:41] but camera was just following. Yeah, close me to dig deep. I'm digging deep.

[00:20:46] That was great. He like tried to manifest his own clue. I'm digging deep right now, Jeff.

[00:20:52] This has to be the right spot. Right? Please.

[00:20:55] I think I'll throw an idol in that hole he just made. I thought Bonnie was a had some

[00:21:03] all-time line. It was tough to watch, but it was incredible. I mean, when he questioned

[00:21:09] his religion, that's like six of my notes right here. This is Bonnie. Questioning God.

[00:21:18] No, not questioning God. Bonnie was in a fight big guy. The biggest blonde side so far

[00:21:30] just see what God's hurting on Bonnie. That was really fascinating though if I'm being

[00:21:41] honest. We've never seen that and we will never see that again. I feel like but here's

[00:21:45] the thing as funny as it is, right? Have you ever been working on a project? Have

[00:21:51] you ever been typing your midterm and you're you didn't plug your computer up and you lose

[00:21:58] everything? Like you be like, what the like I kind of felt the realness in that because

[00:22:03] there have been times that I have had to ask little baby Jesus, what's up? Why would

[00:22:08] you have me type this whole paper just to delete it? God why?

[00:22:13] So I do want to examine his question though. He said, why would you have put me on survivor

[00:22:19] if it was only if it was only to be this short God? And I was like, wow. What?

[00:22:25] Because here's what my only issue with that is is like Jolinski didn't ask God that question

[00:22:33] neither did Jess. Brandon had the most right to ask out of anyone and Bonnie was like, why

[00:22:41] why only nine days? And because I was doing some light rewatching, Bonnie even admits

[00:22:47] to one point he goes, I was praying saying God if you're real give me a sign. He he was

[00:22:55] doing more negotiating with God than he was his other tried baits. But listen not to get

[00:23:02] too like you know spiritual, you know, he may not come where you want him but he'll

[00:23:06] be there always on time and sometimes he doesn't give you what you want, but what you

[00:23:11] mean is so it's like maybe the sun, what? You might not have liked the sun. This is the

[00:23:17] time, Bonnie. No vote no shot, no idle. This is the time now since we're all over the place

[00:23:24] am I the only person? No, it's probably me. Did you question though when Q was like, what

[00:23:33] did a chance is you think Jeff, but now I was like, are they about to do what I think

[00:23:39] you're about to do? And then you get Bonnie, like God dig deeper. Yes. And so that's

[00:23:44] what I was like, are they about to give him a idle? They teased me a couple of times.

[00:23:50] I had to remind myself I'm like Tiffany has that but where had fans right? Like I saw

[00:23:53] that happen because I there was it just was like, where is this going if he doesn't find

[00:24:00] an idle right now? And why we spend so much time.

[00:24:05] I'm sorry.

[00:24:07] The inevitable, but it also again, I love Bonnie, but wait, he fell down to the floor.

[00:24:14] I have a question for you for your players. I think I'd be like Tiffany, I'd be like stand

[00:24:22] up. No, I'm not going to talk to you. You don't think you could negotiate with someone

[00:24:26] on their hands and knees. Do you? Well, I mean it depends what the negotiations are.

[00:24:34] If that's the case.

[00:24:39] Oh no.

[00:24:40] If that's the case, I could not believe that please. And you know, he didn't even ask Tiffany

[00:24:47] to vote someone. He just said, Tiffany help me please help me.

[00:24:53] It was wild now. I think.

[00:24:59] I think Jeff was ready for Bono to leave. I am Jeff.

[00:25:04] I think I think if you look at this trial, I was talking to Bryce about this. I've talked

[00:25:10] to some other people out this. I think Jeff was ready for this man to leave this game

[00:25:14] because when I look at that tribe without knowing who Bono is or anybody, I'm like this

[00:25:20] is a super tribe. When I look at their starting point, I'm like this time is not going to

[00:25:25] lose. Then I'm like, all right, if we sub anyone for Bono this episode, they ain't losing.

[00:25:32] Yeah.

[00:25:33] And so for such a tribe that optically is like, yo, this is the tribe.

[00:25:40] I think Bono, sweetheart, great man, great person. But I think he's had a chokehold on this

[00:25:48] tribe and like now that he's gone, I would like to think, I mean, I'd like to think that

[00:25:57] they could do some damage now. But I've been saying it every week. And I'm like, all right,

[00:26:01] me and Bono is going to get on board. But I think Jeff was really ready like for this

[00:26:06] to not be the Bono spectacle anymore. Yeah.

[00:26:09] All right, now let's now let's play some survivor. Yeah.

[00:26:12] I think that's probably why we got the vote that we did. If you can call it that, what do

[00:26:18] you guys think about that? I'm yeah. I have two issues with it as a player. Your vote

[00:26:28] is like your only provable trust in my opinion at the end of the day. There's a lot of

[00:26:33] words and this is an action. But then two, like as an audience member, it just feels

[00:26:39] really anti climactic. Yeah, because we could still think that something might pull something

[00:26:47] yeah. Yeah. But had we not had the 45 minutes prior to that maybe. So I do have a question

[00:26:57] though, right? And again, I'm going to bring this back to Q because when we talk about

[00:27:02] keeping the tribe strong and like you know, again, I just want to bring up to Linsky

[00:27:07] again because I questioned in the beginning, like although Jolinsky might quit. Although he

[00:27:14] might have like did a lot of different things. Like when we say keep the tribe strong,

[00:27:18] like I feel like not just physically but sometimes it's like maybe keeping the tribe strong

[00:27:23] is just keeping your mouth shut. Like you know, like so again, I always just.

[00:27:27] Jolinsky couldn't do. I mean, he would raise his hand for everything like yeah, all right,

[00:27:34] you might not be sharing certain things but that's when that's as when we as a tribe

[00:27:38] like no. But I'm just saying that's that's all I think a two hours man, we saw him raise

[00:27:45] his hand and fail four times in a row. I'm curious so you don't think it was then you

[00:27:51] think Jolinsky was still the correct vote at that time. Wendell is it supposed to Jess and

[00:27:56] Baanu? Yeah, yeah. I mean hindsight. Yeah, no, no, no, and we try to take hindsight out of it.

[00:28:04] We make a decision in the moment and you stick with it. hindsight clearly that freaking puzzle

[00:28:10] where his six foot wingspan would have helped. I do know that's coming in hindsight. I'd say

[00:28:16] that Jolinsky maybe should have been the third. That's kind of where I'm leaning. I questioned

[00:28:23] it when it happened. There was the whole quit thing so like I understood it but in the new era

[00:28:29] particularly if you lose that first tribal and you don't have your fire for two three days,

[00:28:35] looks hard to come back from at this point. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I thought this I thought then too.

[00:28:44] I thought that Jess was the right first food because Jolinsky had some more loyalty but I saw

[00:28:50] the logic of like Jolinsky has sort of actively messed her games up by like giving people advantages

[00:28:58] saying this and that at that point, Jess and Baanu had it really done that. So not to go back three

[00:29:03] episodes. Did you guys think that was that big of like a sin? No, I didn't but it was his delivery.

[00:29:11] Like I feel like if you are that much of a survivor fan, you should not be coming back.

[00:29:15] I gave him an extra vote. And that's not in a vacuum. It's not just that was not his only

[00:29:23] blunder that episode. So when you compound them it really starts to add up. I do think the delivery

[00:29:29] because I was like I don't think that was that bad of a move but he did deliver it very poorly.

[00:29:34] I was the issue is I thought the best move was to just be honest and say hey guys like I have the

[00:29:38] skull and not going to lie to you. Right because the other alternative was you really try to lie about

[00:29:44] it well then 10 we can just be like I swear to God, I swear I'm my mom and my dad and if you're

[00:29:50] Jolinsky are you gonna match that? Like probably not or else you just look like such a

[00:29:54] deceitful person but yeah you can't go to the tribe and be like yeah I tried to lie for about 30

[00:30:00] seconds gave up. I was like I could help these guys out. You can easily just say I lost.

[00:30:05] That would have been the easy thing to say. But bringing it back over to Survive 46 and steering away

[00:30:12] from the Yonni tribe for a little bit we also got scenes early on at the Sika tribe where

[00:30:20] Gem decides to rehide the Deweyred advantage and this leads to Maria finds it and this causes a

[00:30:31] collective tribe search under this tree where they find nothing but ants and that you know

[00:30:37] arrived with some suspicion about is this planted. Some fingers were pointed at 10 because he

[00:30:44] was searching too hard. What do we think about this from like Gem's perspective and then maybe

[00:30:51] also the perspective of like the players who don't know what the situation is with this advantage?

[00:30:56] I think Gem played this off great. Shout out to Gem okay you know where in the merch.

[00:31:04] I think she played this off great. That's a good hat. Oh that is a good hat.

[00:31:10] Oh Gem's my winner bag. I'm gonna need to get one of those. That's fly.

[00:31:14] Oh that's real cool. Team Gem. So I thought Gem was great. If they were me I would have been

[00:31:23] like it would have been so hard for me especially when I think it might have been Liz.

[00:31:29] Like do you think someone could have put it there and then planted it again and Gem's like no wow

[00:31:36] I would have been like what makes you think that like I would have been cracking up so I loved her

[00:31:43] plan. I thought that was a great my only critique of her is we should maybe find a better spot

[00:31:51] for it. It literally was like sticking out like Dr Maria saw it. I also Dr Maria was me.

[00:31:57] She touched it. She said is beware boom what I don't want no beware idols. I'm good.

[00:32:04] Really? But she did open it up right and now she doesn't have a flow.

[00:32:10] I do think Ben opened it up I could be wrong yet one of them opened it well maybe this is a hot take

[00:32:16] Jack are you opening a beware advantage if you find it of course.

[00:32:20] I think I am but I understand not my issue here what

[00:32:27] you opening it or not well it is a replay and one you still have your vote that's true

[00:32:34] no I don't know that you don't know that and you're on a tribe of six I think that makes a difference too

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[00:34:13] okay wait a minute all right now I'm sorry now I have an even better question right

[00:34:17] so say he does open the reopen they lose next

[00:34:22] I should know it's a replant at that moment whoever opened that

[00:34:26] that's what he knows yeah he gets his vote but would it would they've never played survivor before

[00:34:32] you wouldn't find out because all he knows right now is dig under the tree and he said

[00:34:37] he doesn't know the stipulations of like come back so what did he get up for the parchment

[00:34:41] and even though he sees it they've never played survivor but well I mean I guess they've seen it

[00:34:46] so I think they were telling to vote they would tell him to vote I think you usually says

[00:34:51] you go up and it's like you have no vote return to the seat and he's pretty funny actually

[00:34:56] well so I'm do we know for a fact who opened it better Maria it was one of those two I maybe

[00:35:01] mistaken on Ben I thought I saw him open it I was it was one of them that was not gem I noticed

[00:35:07] I was like she didn't open and read it either okay then we could go with my right here's my issue is

[00:35:15] look I love the move from gem from like a spontanei like a entertainment spontanei standpoint

[00:35:24] but I don't think it's a good move because she does it to like take it off herself

[00:35:31] but if nobody else ever finds it there's still like there's supposed to be okay someone might have

[00:35:37] there's no here's read on gem here's why I like it and it's it's very situational

[00:35:44] and it's that green tribe is probably not going to go to a tribal before they hit the merge this

[00:35:51] can give gem an interesting insight as to who trust who before the merge that she wouldn't get

[00:35:57] otherwise because there's no vote it's all oh we all vibe with each other if we don't have to vote

[00:36:01] someone out let's not talk about it but now there's an actionable thing where Maria can be like I

[00:36:07] think it's Charlie or you know what I mean like they can point fingers and she can map out the

[00:36:11] connections on the tribe I agree with that um I don't think that was her motivation by any mean

[00:36:22] yeah my only thing is yes that is great and now you do have this and you do have this but

[00:36:29] I just think it's um adding too much I I think it's fun for to watch on TV and it's a fun idea

[00:36:35] and I even planted I replanted a fake idol before um but I just think man now now you really have

[00:36:45] people like night I don't know it's scary because like to put it because I had more to my so the

[00:36:53] real thing is now say we say that Maria lost the one who opened it no longer as well if they go to

[00:37:01] tribal Maria who is allegedly gems ally and is it also in a swing position now thinks that she

[00:37:09] doesn't have a vote and so gem can either let her think she doesn't have a vote or she's gonna have

[00:37:16] to be like wink wink like I planted it you have a vote and then Maria might be like yeah

[00:37:24] and then Maria would be like why did she do that like that's messed up so it just puts her

[00:37:29] in a position where now her she's kind of hosting over her allies they're not going to they're

[00:37:35] not gonna go even if Maria loses her vote gem can just even stick harder to her and be like what's

[00:37:42] the plan we're working together like I got you like if I'm gem I keep this to the in the chest like

[00:37:47] I'm not mad at it when you play your idol or something and now what it's you know what I still

[00:37:56] agree I don't think it's a great look and the other issue is playing a win people are now suspicious of

[00:38:01] him okay okay but they're also worried that he might have an idol so if I'm Maria and I think I have

[00:38:10] no vote and I think Tim might have an idol I'm actually more likely to side with the guys and vote

[00:38:14] for a gem or a Mariah and so that puts gem in her mood because they're not gonna lose here's

[00:38:21] where I think it'll be an issue is if she at the merge is like I want to stay six green strong

[00:38:27] then this move only so distrust amongst the six but if she gets to the merge and it's like I'm

[00:38:33] playing an individual game I'm not with all of them then I think this was a good move personally

[00:38:39] it's a risk and order to win the viber you gotta play to win and so I feel that but I just also

[00:38:44] want to circle back real quick check I'm not making no assumptions I'm not making nothing crazy however

[00:38:50] I was like Tim Tim I think what you mean like why Tim why Tim why Tim lying about this he's just

[00:39:01] been the most like he's probably fit in the least one socially so maybe it's just natural we'd be

[00:39:06] to be like oh well the person I'm lilies close to yeah he's doing something shady but I

[00:39:12] think a lot of people are like he's actually searching really hard he's over compensating I'd be like

[00:39:20] I don't I don't know you can sell someone's maybe what really like it probably think it's there

[00:39:26] yeah again we don't see everything just looking at everybody like that I kind of be like

[00:39:36] yeah if you felt like she was worried I feel like this was a good idea but I don't know exactly

[00:39:41] the dynamic we don't get up to an agreement unfortunately right which I love because it kind of

[00:39:46] keeps us guessing and write the murder mystery we don't really know but from my assumption though

[00:39:54] for them to say Tim and from what I've seen so far it gives it leads me to believe like is Tim

[00:40:00] on the outs right like so that is what we're talking about him that's like conclusion I think if

[00:40:07] they want to travel he'd go first which is weird he I didn't see that when the when it first started

[00:40:13] and I thought he was I had a pretty season I thought he was gonna do really well and he's still

[00:40:17] got time to turn around but it brings up a really good point right because they found a beware

[00:40:24] advantage as a group and then as a group like you know Tim start going in and it's like he's

[00:40:32] playing the game and going in and now he becomes a target now let's go over to the yellow tribe

[00:40:39] because it brings up similar things because I really want to talk about this soda dynamic because

[00:40:46] on paper what is soda doing wrong right like I mean she's like she's playing classic survivor in

[00:40:53] the sense of like hey be friendly talk to everybody but keep your allies close but because

[00:41:00] you dig it so deep it like it causes mistrust so it's for me I just always think people that

[00:41:10] love survivor and that are so critical of people on survivor they keep more warriors they

[00:41:17] be the best players ever I would do this I would do that I can't believe it but I just feel like

[00:41:21] sometimes it really is situational and it's like on paper because I'm like in soda mine like

[00:41:29] girl you kill it like you know yeah talking everybody you got your core three hey Venus hey

[00:41:34] this hey that hey that and it's like because you're out there and the survivor paranoia is running

[00:41:41] and you like oh not talking survivor I got a lie you know it's just that level and I even bring

[00:41:46] it back to Tim he ain't doing nothing wrong but again maybe it's like maybe I don't dig in the dirt

[00:41:54] I just slow down I think in the new era survivors specifically with three tribes I'm starting to

[00:42:03] believe it is a detriment not to go to tribal early on these people don't know where these people

[00:42:10] heads if Tevin and soda had actually voted together maybe Tevin wouldn't be like I can't

[00:42:15] so does playing too hard or if Tim had been like oh you know what he was that clutch fourth

[00:42:19] vote we needed Tim's good they have no it's all paranoia like you said it's all theories ideas

[00:42:26] nonstop for 10 plus days for these two tribes and where purple nose plus three are sticking together

[00:42:32] we've been through it I still much rather close to the merge same yeah what's better shot of

[00:42:41] making it to the end if you don't go to tribal same statistically it makes sense but it's just

[00:42:45] interesting the trend we've been seeing specifically in the new era yeah it's like all right we

[00:42:50] have nothing to base our trust on other than people's words so now we're all over yeah

[00:42:55] buffs yeah no proof and I feel like that's maybe would spark this in Tevin because obviously I

[00:43:00] think they're getting a little bit stir crazy and you've started the way I planned but I think one

[00:43:04] step farther is Tevin's like okay I haven't been able to prove trust by going to tribal but maybe

[00:43:10] if I spring this blindside in action I could see who's really about it who's gonna arrive at me

[00:43:16] and so for him to go to like a hunter and hunter's like I'm super down like you that's exactly

[00:43:22] what I was thinking Tim could be like oh that's actually my guy like he's gonna rock on me even if

[00:43:26] the move isn't really the right move but to Bryce's point I mixed on soda because it's there's such

[00:43:32] a balance lately in like especially in the new era of like you want to have a really good social

[00:43:37] yet but how do you have that social game where it's not like super visible for everybody else to be

[00:43:41] like he's really social she's really social and I think so does social game right now maybe

[00:43:46] it's just been like a little bit too visible and for Tevin look Tevin's situation with Venus is not

[00:43:53] I deal it's not obviously not great bond but there is something to be said in survivor and real life

[00:44:01] for like one of your friends or your allies to for you to know that they just really do not

[00:44:06] rock with somebody you're like okay if I know and you show them that you do not like them

[00:44:12] then that means that when you show me love like it's probably pretty genuine and I think

[00:44:17] I have this thing in real life where if I see someone who just gets along with everybody and it never

[00:44:23] has a bad thing to say about anybody I'm like well how do I know that you actually like really

[00:44:29] like that I'm really your number one in real life and I think that would translate to survivor where

[00:44:33] you like to hear your friend talk a little bit of shit about somebody because you're like okay

[00:44:38] I know that trust me like someone they're not gonna pull it back so the fact that they're with me

[00:44:42] shows like an actual trust like I said in real life or in the game I feel like that's kind

[00:44:46] of what Tevin is utilizing that's really gotten into the driver's seat

[00:44:52] I love it also really like the many fights that we have had Jack I'm glad that you get the point

[00:44:58] it's like I don't fight with everybody you know so it's like if I'm gonna call you up

[00:45:04] they argue with you that's how you know is real I think also on the flip side and this might be

[00:45:09] what's hurting Soda it hurts when like you and say you and I Jack we're talking crap about other

[00:45:14] people on the circle but then when we're out I'm like buddy buddy with them the whole time talking

[00:45:18] their ear up oh my best friend so Soda while she's placating the bottom Tevin's like is she

[00:45:25] actually working with them it only takes one vote it's just that and we applaud players who

[00:45:31] minds thinking that way but when you don't go to tribal for 12 days your mind runs too much almost

[00:45:39] and I'd rather be the one to pull in with Soda have knocked me to pull in there exactly

[00:45:46] and it just has arrows it's weird almost because it's like and again I'm not made at how Soda's playing

[00:45:53] but I almost feel like I almost wish Soda with the energy that she has is in the Venus position right

[00:46:00] because it would it would hit different then her kind of sort of being in the power position

[00:46:07] and scrambling around and working with people like I think it's like just so weird but again I'm

[00:46:13] not mad at Soda I feel like on paper I understand it and I can see Soda winning yeah I really could

[00:46:20] I think Soda especially you get to emerge and you apply those social skills if there's majority of

[00:46:26] the people who just like her it's gonna get her far I think that's all why nervous about her

[00:46:31] at this point now that they're close to the religion I think that's actually semi-reasonable

[00:46:36] because she's just a butterfly well we just saw somebody last season that was a butterfly and they

[00:46:41] sniped him quick by the name of Caleb yeah they did they sniped it twice right away

[00:46:47] thanks tried once they said no no no let me try again we're gonna do this again

[00:46:51] yeah that's why I didn't think Caleb was gonna win too I was very much like this guys win

[00:46:56] well that's why I think Soda doesn't actually have a lot of like winter equity it's so up and down

[00:47:01] the things that help you the most if you're too good at them back in the day it used to be like

[00:47:06] if you were too good at challenges they they took you out now it's like oh you're you're good with

[00:47:11] everyone in the tribe make future players go out there start a fake beef day one be like you and I

[00:47:16] we're gonna fight but we're gonna look out for each other change the game I also feel like Soda

[00:47:23] is learning a little bit because at the reward challenge when the purple tribe won she was very much like

[00:47:30] I see y'all I see y'all let's go yeah did you totally challenge though her snatched

[00:47:40] the idol again I think Venus gave it to her finally I think they're recovering friends it looked

[00:47:46] much more I cannot believe this happens almost every episode though it's wild yeah speaking of

[00:47:52] the so y'all need get some much need when at the reward challenge okay I'm actually gonna in

[00:47:59] hindsight's 2020 this actually makes me more annoyed that they won because they can win

[00:48:05] we know they can but they just can't win the immunity challenges like what do you mean yeah

[00:48:11] I kind of knew that was what I felt that was I was like that I felt like their celebration

[00:48:16] back at camp I was like don't don't don't don't don't don't don't come well also can we give a shot

[00:48:25] out to Tim I don't know what Tim thought that challenge was but it was like bro while you're down in

[00:48:35] the water you could just clip to know I know maybe that's all he had maybe they thought you found

[00:48:42] the awareness underneath the water he says you gotta go under the boat and then you say

[00:48:50] it'll be on the bottom of the platform yeah like Tim was so eager to jump out of the boat

[00:48:56] onto the platform that was so funny I almost was like oh he's got it then he did

[00:49:03] he did the same thing in the immunity challenge he's like wow

[00:49:10] fall off a platform he's legs his whole tribe's like it's definitely under one of those

[00:49:16] platforms that is what he did it was his face with preparing for a fall he was like I'm

[00:49:24] gonna look crazy yeah oh that was so funny I do this one I've seen those there's people that are like

[00:49:33] oh season so bad and boring it's not there's a lot of things that are happening you're just not

[00:49:38] watching you're on your phone it's all physical comedy just yeah it's phone moments but like

[00:49:43] you said there hasn't been a lot of I understand it's easier for Gresham but I'm just I just love

[00:49:48] yelling at angry Twitter people speaking of fun moments after this reward challenge the

[00:49:55] Yannu's morale is up a little bit I know we're bouncing around but we do get that wonderful

[00:49:59] moment of Bony getting some coaching from Q and I thought maybe it would be a fun exercise if

[00:50:06] I could be Jeff Probe for a second and you guys could all be the new and improved Bony

[00:50:10] at tribal council and I want to hit you guys each with a with a question for you to answer as

[00:50:15] the do an improved Bony okay let's do it so Bryce or so Bob so Bryce knew you know after

[00:50:28] Randy got medically evacuated last episode you guys seem really upbeat how are you in your tribe

[00:50:35] feeling now that you've somehow managed to lose a fourth consecutive challenge what are the

[00:50:40] what's the energy like a yeah are you asking as Jack or Jack as Jack was Jack

[00:50:52] yo yo yo where it on the block

[00:50:57] we chillin did I do okay went well you did well okay you're not bondal

[00:51:10] yes you know your tribe is only down to four members now and you're at tribal council again

[00:51:17] has there been any discussion of who's on the block who would you who do you think you might want

[00:51:22] to vote out Jeff I'm gonna look at my truck you're making the block hot

[00:51:34] where did you wear that turn from bond or I'ma just wink at Tiffany

[00:51:43] that would actually be so funny don't be fooled by the rocks that I got

[00:51:47] I'm so I'm so I have a little now I have a lot everywhere I go

[00:51:59] where's you from from the block

[00:52:03] bond of the block bond of bond with bond from the block all right I got one more I like to ask

[00:52:08] so so Alex Bonsard um you know aside from all the strategizing you've done with God who on your

[00:52:16] tribes you like to strategize with the most Jeff it's time to vote

[00:52:30] oh that killed me when he did episode one when he said that I was like oh I'm a love

[00:52:35] bond new he fooled me in the first half but can I still love him can we give him some credit though

[00:52:40] right and this is where I feel like the edit because when he came back with Kinsey right like I am so

[00:52:50] sure when Q and Kinsey were laying down I am so sure Q did not want when bond was like Kinsey

[00:52:58] can you teach me and for me I didn't take it as him really being like literal like what I got

[00:53:05] from him was like okay Q has taught me some things Kinsey can we like I thought he would write

[00:53:13] like the I thought he was essentially saying like since come take a walk with me because how be fit

[00:53:19] like he could have really in that moment been like you know Q want to get you out like I felt like

[00:53:24] and Q set up a little bit and so I feel like the edit is a little deceptive because there's a

[00:53:28] world where I could see that Q kind of was like feeding Kinsey a little bit if we like

[00:53:33] uh he got like he killed it because you know I wrote to him right because I really got like bond

[00:53:39] who's saying like I'd like to learn from you two like he was saying like come take a

[00:53:43] let's go talk on the beach you and I yeah I didn't think this was really funny because he goes

[00:53:49] off in his like Kenzie just snapped at me and I was like I don't really think she snapped at him but

[00:53:53] then later in the episode she's like I snapped at Bono I need to go up I was like oh okay they

[00:53:58] all think he snapped at him I mean my my vantage point was it looked like she was a little a little

[00:54:04] tough on my man yeah just a little like I'm not yo right now not even like but like not right now

[00:54:12] right like let me right like you're out of your hair so I mean I

[00:54:18] and Bryce I think that's a good point I can kind of sense Q was like I don't want to lose my

[00:54:22] foot like I don't want to go anywhere I think he was very very interested in keeping Bono if he could

[00:54:30] but I get Kenzie's frustration because it's like we're all playing for a million bucks why

[00:54:34] is it my job to get to help it's not like I and you have to like you know if you're making

[00:54:40] to the merge you want to be in a good spot with Bono or whatever but I would have been I love Bono

[00:54:45] as a character I feel like you know as soon as he told he told us that he told Yarni that he

[00:54:51] told everybody else about the dynamics I'm like you're just sabotaging my game right now like what

[00:54:58] and that was like help you that was so because he just got the random news he just got the

[00:55:04] random news second life in the game and the first thing we see him do is he's like I told them

[00:55:10] everything and I want to take stock in this Bono city's not a liar and he's not good at lying

[00:55:15] he's told Q and Tiffany he said they asked me are they close and I said yes they're close I

[00:55:22] went back and watched it he offered it up to them yeah well first of all like

[00:55:29] first of all but like Bono he knew giving them that information what he was doing like that

[00:55:36] like let like you knew the tone and even when Tiffany asked you right was that bad was that bad

[00:55:42] like it's like you can't like that's the thing that I think that frustration you can be deceptive

[00:55:49] you like you are showing it he's like one foot out he said I won't put on the truth but then

[00:55:55] I want to and be really honest but then I want to twist it so it still kind of works for me

[00:56:00] but it's like dude just don't say anything and that's you don't you want to be more honest by not

[00:56:04] saying anything like second chance and he was like I need to be honest with them in this moment

[00:56:10] yeah it was such a fun ball I love how 50 was like he probably over there telling him this

[00:56:15] that but actually it was worse than that Tiffany like it was Bono was said I'm going home tonight

[00:56:23] Kenzie's the mastermind Q and Tiffany they're just so close and I was like wow there's like 30

[00:56:30] seconds right like was there anything more that you could even care about the trial like I think

[00:56:35] Tiffany has the bewired manager yeah like Delinsey was pretty tall oh gosh we have other fun moments

[00:56:45] we're back over on the Ceege Tribe and they get the the Tremel for the Mua challenge and Mariah has

[00:56:51] to disclose that she cannot jump is this the first point towards going back to 60 minutes no I'm

[00:57:02] just kidding I was watching this like it was a very fun yeah but I actually you know I kind of

[00:57:12] expected the challenge to be you have to go jump and grab a key and I was thinking if Mariah can't jump

[00:57:17] you know they could lose just because of that in reality you just have to jump off a platform you

[00:57:22] could you could just belly flop off so you could be hunter and say I'm going to jump to the other

[00:57:30] platform I actually wonder how really like if there would ever be someone athletic enough that

[00:57:36] could just would jump so far that they actually hit the other platform I thought it was how we're

[00:57:41] about to see it the landing would be a little liar you look like 10 on that platform yeah

[00:57:49] I you probably the momentum will probably just stumble you right into the water at the front of

[00:57:53] that you slip and yeah you just keep going oh no but oh yeah especially if you're wet yeah if

[00:57:58] your feet are wet your flip it's gonna look like a cartoon like I think you're like breaking a leg

[00:58:04] or worse you might be diving and you dive too far and you I don't know I'm sure survivor

[00:58:11] thinks about this but speaking of diving I thought Tim Tim's dive was I was like okay Tim we see

[00:58:21] you dive in I thought hunter was diving right into the uh but I do need to I do question

[00:58:30] cues time because it's like it is it was so falling right like it was the form of a dive

[00:58:40] but it's just not yeah it definitely was like

[00:58:46] it's a it's a cute pillow it is cute I was like that's cute Bryce had a cute pillow made

[00:58:59] I really like you I think you is one of the more interesting athletes we've seen on the show

[00:59:04] but here's the thing all right because I'ma be a little hard all cute because I mean listen we

[00:59:12] listen we love cute right but I'm just saying because you know every episode I'm always going to

[00:59:20] ask the question sorry I'm always gonna ask the question okay how would you let's do

[00:59:29] because I just want to make sure we give our man some credit and some love because I'm just saying

[00:59:37] for cute and beaten pro athlete okay he was the last person or when he got in there he was drained

[00:59:48] good boy yes yeah I mean we all know Jolinski's a hooper too

[00:59:56] yeah and with his eight-foot reach he doesn't have to shoot you can just lean over and drop it in

[01:00:01] drop it in yeah how would you lintzky I we saw him throw that hourglass he has an arm

[01:00:07] he got range I swear Jolinski would have front flip and said a dive

[01:00:14] he would have front flip and landed behind himself yeah I know that would happen

[01:00:20] but so yeah I just uh yeah just I just thought cues dive was a little interesting because it's like

[01:00:28] because diving is a little hard I feel like sometimes it's like in my form but he had the form

[01:00:32] right he just landed it uh a little hard he is organic Bryce are you good at diving I can't dive oh

[01:00:39] I can dive I did practice uh say that again would you look like you um I would probably look like Tim

[01:00:48] good dive I'm okay I'm okay uh I'm freaking on ghost island I believe Yerger dove from that top

[01:01:00] high platform he did yeah good good well you were there but I was gonna say good memory

[01:01:06] remember it at you if you actually remember that and I do I don't know if I told you this the

[01:01:10] last time but I actually think when do you had the most like while it was cool sentimental you had

[01:01:16] the most bum hidden immunity idol of all time how you supposed to hide that big ass thing

[01:01:21] it's a whoo what are they doing I couldn't believe I was like this is so unfair this barely fits in

[01:01:26] his bag nah yeah I had yeah it was like a belt yeah there's a championship wrestling belt

[01:01:33] yeah it was huge I couldn't believe it I was like this is not fair I just left outside at all times

[01:01:39] was the platform Yerger dove off was not the same height as like these ones or was it

[01:01:44] blowing the bed it was the same height this this challenge looked very familiar ghost some ghost

[01:01:49] island challenge do you think diving is the wrong move or use I think it takes a little more

[01:01:54] audacity well I think it takes a lot more audacity and in Yerger's case I think he had a further

[01:02:02] distance to go so that dive helps him whereas in hunter cases like you jump in and you gotta get

[01:02:08] right out so your dive the first the first hurdle I think you definitely dive because it is

[01:02:20] a lot further but I think the second hurdle it's like this one I don't think you dive I think

[01:02:26] you just try to jump as far as you can because it didn't look the angles for me weren't the best

[01:02:33] and do we worry about do we worry on this platform about getting a running start and slipping when

[01:02:39] you try to jump or is it do you think it's pretty dry up there I think probably dry until you get

[01:02:45] up there and your drenched of water and you've had like three people go before you that's what I

[01:02:51] was I would be nervous about that thinking like I'm gonna try to jump as far as I can and you slip

[01:02:56] and you like generally speaking they they try to work around all the hazards that are possible

[01:03:02] it's not like they'll put grippies up there anything but I don't think they put whatever the

[01:03:06] slipperyest wood and paint is a pretty show acting like breath yeah that's good um I do prefer

[01:03:14] to slip your a slip your wood though but um hunter definitely right here I already knew rice I

[01:03:21] already knew I was gonna bring up this quote when see if it gets there first and tevon was like

[01:03:28] but once hunter gets those balls in his hand oh my god I wrote that quote down

[01:03:34] I think it was a funny quote but it was even more funny that it ended up being true

[01:03:40] right hunter hunter it was the shape of the balls like no but I'm not trying to be funny

[01:03:47] like look at the balls that hunter has like they know I didn't even notice

[01:03:53] for those that are listening in rice has Photoshopped himself on the ball between

[01:04:03] okay I'm not gonna lie I've been looking at this photo since you brought it up and I did not see your face

[01:04:10] right I saw immediately but I also want to give tevon some love because in my rewatch of tevon for

[01:04:20] 3.2 seconds during the challenge you can see tevon straddling the bench and checking under it

[01:04:29] like he moved over and kind of looked like he was like straddling it and he was checking under so

[01:04:33] again shout out to my twin tevon who is in a really good position in his tribe and is clearly

[01:04:41] out there playing the games I love tevon him and Hunter great duo I was really thinking him

[01:04:50] soda and hunter we're gonna gonna keep that momentum going but now I'm worried about their

[01:04:55] relationship moving forward could be a bluff could be an editing bluff but I'm like you I think

[01:05:02] they're leaving bread crumbs for us I definitely believe so I also feel like Tiffany was the MVP in

[01:05:10] this challenge I feel like she definitely we didn't get to see a lot of it but we saw how everyone

[01:05:18] else was doing pace wise or how long it took them to do it and then all of a sudden Tiffany was

[01:05:23] in the water this she was just pulling herself up I'm like okay Tiffany also classic by new he was

[01:05:30] so into it he was like I'm just bypassed and get and go get the ball and my just like the worst part

[01:05:39] is from the edit they were very close in that challenge who knows a minute that he needed to go back

[01:05:44] could have made all the difference is the worst part about it is from what it looked like

[01:05:49] we agree yes always one ball short see you get there first but 10 has ups and downs with the shooting

[01:05:57] hunter pulls up like Kevin said put a ball on this man's hand and we're all expected him to go

[01:06:05] like 2k and he says the granny shot and then everybody was able to pull it out take take

[01:06:13] moment second for Suga once again Yano faded for another travel council and this was a bummer even

[01:06:21] though I just was bummed not again and I got a question though and usually we don't really

[01:06:31] usually we don't factor into people social media's and like look at that and try to

[01:06:36] try to um apply that to what's going on in the game I did see a post from Q that said best

[01:06:43] miss shot of my life oh like he wanted to lose that so I'm like all right did they throw

[01:06:52] are they through did they throw this challenge um be honest it was like yo Bono you're out of here

[01:07:00] like I'm gonna come in and start rebounding so like I'm trying to like and Q

[01:07:06] say when I think obviously they were happy to get rid of Bono at this point yeah but you can't

[01:07:13] think you might lose the next one and then you gotta go feel like they thought they got robbed

[01:07:17] of getting rid of Bono when Brandon left so maybe they just didn't try their their little artist

[01:07:23] and um and again like you don't know what's to come next you don't know if we're gonna do a swap

[01:07:29] for Emerger anything so like all right we might not have a shot at this guy who is leaking all our

[01:07:34] information all over the place so you know what maybe it might not be so bad if we lose

[01:07:43] yeah I can see that with another trouble it's risky now so I mean it's it's a real question of like

[01:07:54] because when Q was thinking about getting rid of Kenzie I was like man take out a threat or like

[01:07:59] how big of a liability is Bono and if they really thought he was like detrimental to their games

[01:08:06] I definitely see a world where they didn't try their harness I never want to like cast that

[01:08:10] upon someone if they don't verbalize it but I definitely see what you're your hint in that for sure

[01:08:17] yeah I mean we already spoke about some of the post challenge pre-tribal

[01:08:24] antics by Bono including begging to Tiffany questioning God um

[01:08:32] it's obviously really kind of dry it was sort of he still asking to learn at that point he's like

[01:08:37] can you teach me any and it kind of reminded me of um I was watching with some friends

[01:08:43] including the great sack we're in Merger and it kind of reminded me of the Alicia Poo in

[01:08:47] co-wrong where they finished the challenge and there were everyone else I think it was

[01:08:53] uh Scott Jason and Sydney were all like we're or Kyle Jason whatever his name was

[01:09:01] we're all like we're ready to vote you right now and Jeff was like we could just do it here if you

[01:09:05] want and they were like she was like I want to eat some travel I'm mostly glad they didn't try to

[01:09:12] sew any viewer mistrust here because it was clearly blatant we've been lied to so many times

[01:09:19] though we all found it was coming yeah and you know that tribal Bono has a chance to share his story

[01:09:26] and ultimately they don't even vote um so I guess I want to get into this topic of the not voting

[01:09:34] but before we do was there anything after the challenge before tribal that we haven't

[01:09:38] touched on that anyone really that's not anywhere I really like the purple three but not as much

[01:09:46] as the t-ca-3 but for like different reasons I really like this three but I don't know there's a world

[01:09:52] where like they're yanu strong I feel like they're all individual players that are going to try to do

[01:09:59] their own thing come merge maybe I have the wrong read on it but um they just like keep talking

[01:10:05] like there are three but it really looks like Tiffany's in the middle of those two right and again

[01:10:13] for her it is 90 times I really like Tiffany too I I think it's great for her but again I just

[01:10:20] worry about being in the middle because again like Jack said earlier uh I rather know where you stand

[01:10:27] right and I feel like we get this dialogue from Tiffany where she kind of is like you know I know

[01:10:32] Kenzie you know likes me but it like I don't know I could just see a world where say they merge

[01:10:40] right and Tiffany does what Q once and then now Kenzie's coming after or Tiffany sides with Kenzie

[01:10:49] now Q's coming after her so I don't know I would think if they go to another tribal who do we think

[01:10:54] goes home oh I don't even actually want to imagine that if I'm being honest um I have an answer but

[01:11:01] I don't I will let you guys I think it's Kenzie but I I feel like Kenzie is really slick and could

[01:11:07] get out of it is the only thing yeah yeah I don't know I um that's tough I don't think

[01:11:16] Kinzie though because if they were going to any tribes right if Kinzie were to link up like

[01:11:21] the Charlie's Angels like I feel like you know Tiffany Tiffany or Kinzie would be good with

[01:11:25] Charlie's Angels I feel like on the other tribe I feel like Kinzie I could see a world where

[01:11:30] Kinzie Venus so yeah they go to another one right yeah just the three yeah I

[01:11:38] price I agree with you where I think Kenzie can do very well but I'm saying just I think he's

[01:11:43] saying Tiffany's gonna weigh her options and say I need Kenzie at merge with me yeah I don't know

[01:11:51] that's hard again this is what I'm talking about all you all people saying do first four episodes

[01:11:57] sock right they have given us enough but not enough for us to really be like who's not to be on yeah

[01:12:05] yeah yeah yeah and again now that Bondu was out now we have the common denominator is out

[01:12:10] now it's like where are the chips really going to crumble for sure Jack has to go get a snack

[01:12:16] I thought this was the best go to the bathroom real fast I do I want to before we wrap up get to

[01:12:24] the thing I want to pose something probably more a statement but I thought it was a question

[01:12:29] I feel the new era I was able to come to this last night I feel like everyone in the first

[01:12:36] third of the new era is just playing the outlast part there no one wants to really stick their

[01:12:44] head too high they don't want to out with they don't want to outplay I just need to outlast to

[01:12:48] the swap to the merge what have you and I just I need some people that are trying to outwit people

[01:12:54] and I really think what hurts it is the one tribe going constantly and I just think that if you're

[01:13:02] a future survivor player and you go out there you yes you need to outlast the rest of them but don't

[01:13:07] don't forget to outplay and out with also do we think that's a change in the meta or do we

[01:13:15] think that is just a strategy that when adopted I think it's a lot of different things right I think

[01:13:24] that post the new era we used to have recruits we used to have a mix of a lot of different people

[01:13:30] then when we get the new era right we got all of these gamers and they are sniping

[01:13:38] the big players before they even have a chance to and now that pops their head up right

[01:13:44] and so now we kind of have like this mix I can't stand you

[01:13:52] you're literally taking my argument that I had with you on the phone

[01:13:56] braces like I'm gonna take it back no no no I'm gonna take it back my take it's first

[01:14:17] of all wait a minute time out Jack I just gave you have to argue me what you're not about to do is

[01:14:21] think I was what was the take what do I missed it yeah I was asking in general right what's your

[01:14:32] I'm glad you got it he's a thing and he's he's doing um you're doing better than Bono Bryce actually

[01:14:41] um yeah my take is you had pre new my take was pre new era you have I had to argue you to get some

[01:14:49] gamers and recruits to where it's like all right some recruits are like just streetsavier they're just

[01:14:56] they're just crystal ball you're some some recruits are good enough to do some things right

[01:15:02] and some are not and then you got all these game bots early in the new era to where they're sniping

[01:15:09] anybody that they see if I'm doing anything and we're at a point now where it's like

[01:15:13] you have some bannus and some strange folks that aren't necessarily they might watch the game and

[01:15:18] whatnot but they're giving us what the recruits gave us in that like these are people that are almost

[01:15:24] disposable or snipable or whatever that aren't playing this high level game so now we now we have

[01:15:30] it's not all early new era where it's all people that know and are gonna snipe those threats

[01:15:37] it's a I think we now have a better mix of people that are in a similar position to those

[01:15:43] recruits that are just like are y'all are y'all here playing something but the survivor players

[01:15:49] are gonna show you what survivor looks like yeah I like those players though because to me like

[01:15:56] the really good players know how to operate around them oh even though this person's not like a big

[01:16:02] strategist I know they value x y and z I'm gonna appeal to that or I know this philip has beef with

[01:16:10] francesca so I'm gonna exploit that like you that's where the good players in my mind because if

[01:16:15] everyone's playing optimally it becomes a totally different game as weird as that sounds yeah

[01:16:21] for for me right and I'm not being biased like a player that I like that's playing right now is

[01:16:27] a hunter right because I feel like he is keeping his ear to the streets he is laying low but he's

[01:16:35] also planting seeds and I feel like and as they are coming he is taking them and rolling with them

[01:16:42] but like I just love how savvy a hunter is and even when we're thinking about the challenge with

[01:16:49] when dr. Maria kind of was like struggling a little bit but she kept on going the only thing that

[01:16:53] I kept thinking about though was like because you know how to got all of these stuff for his basement

[01:16:59] I just wonder with the pole and hunt a basement look yeah

[01:17:05] you got me I was so ready I was like oh okay no I think humbues in a good spot I also think

[01:17:11] to my general two cents on this point of like the thing is Alex I think optimal gameplay now

[01:17:17] is to just stick tight and not rock the bow early on well a lot I think it's Sandra inspired

[01:17:22] these new players are like hey the first eight seven nine votes so it would have you I'm gonna

[01:17:27] lay low as long as it's not me and it's you know people I like we can we can work with that but can

[01:17:33] y'all keep it a buck and be honest that like yeah it's smart and it's great but it makes for

[01:17:40] not great survivor early in the beginning yeah that's why I brought it up yeah because it is

[01:17:46] it is a balance of we want to see people play really well we want to see strategist super fans

[01:17:52] living out their dreams but I do think this is why I started off saying I want more bonoes I want

[01:17:57] people out there that these players need to play around factor into their games and decide if

[01:18:04] it's a liability enough to take fill up to the end or if you cut bono early on I think these are

[01:18:09] interesting decisions I think it becomes a little weird not weird but like it's just almost like

[01:18:15] shoe horned when there's just one player like that though I want a couple I need I need some

[01:18:22] shoot I need some recruits I think let's even be more specific I really feel like this style

[01:18:28] kind of started on season 43 like James Jones is season because we saw a lot of it where it was

[01:18:34] like people were not making big moves yeah and that was frustrating here's another hot take right

[01:18:40] um can we get two tribes like I would love to see a new era of two tribes and how that works out

[01:18:48] because I like I would love to just kind of see that I I've been a defender but this is the first

[01:18:54] cycle that I'm saying this is and it's specifically 42 is the only season in the new era that one

[01:19:02] tribe has not been almost decimated I just it is such a weird dynamic of the two tribes get their

[01:19:08] fire water shelter all that early on and the one tribe just keeps losing and does whatever they

[01:19:13] can to hang on by the skin of their you know Lulu tribe buffs like it's I want to see two tribes

[01:19:21] I want to see a back and forth I want to see like it is more interesting when it is a tribe of 10

[01:19:26] or a tribe of five then we're getting different dynamics right now we just have three kind of tiny

[01:19:31] tribes yeah I also you know more people gives you more options options with six there's only three

[01:19:38] votes there can be five one four two three zero or three three excuse me it's tough and I actually

[01:19:46] generally love a three-trop season but it's getting stale for sure the players are too good they know

[01:19:53] how to play in a three-tried format now they've seen it five six seasons in a row they're all watching

[01:19:59] and I think that I think the loss of rice in a plant is also huge where once your tribe loses one

[01:20:05] you're just gonna you're gonna be hungry you're gonna detire you're gonna it's gonna escalate the

[01:20:10] issue you're already having I also recently saw some some posts about you know which tribes have

[01:20:17] been on which beaches in the new era and I think I about have six winners have come from the same

[01:20:22] beach they were also on tribes that dominated the pre-merge and from what I know like that's a

[01:20:28] beach that might have a little bit more food a little bit more resources and so of course

[01:20:34] the sleep yeah what do you really do in terms of you know the beaches are the beaches but the way

[01:20:40] you balance that is like make sure every tribe has food like has rice for me I don't care about them

[01:20:46] not having rice like it's what's the it's just I don't want to watch people just absolutely

[01:20:50] wrecked out there I think it's their answer to the 26 days but I just don't know it's like the

[01:20:54] correct answer yeah I don't think so and I guess the last I definitely think this room to

[01:20:59] improve here and I completely agree with the sentiment you guys said my other question I wanted

[01:21:05] to put a to put a wrap up on this specific episode of Survivor is they don't go at the end

[01:21:12] and I think we kind of all agreed I personally wasn't a fan because it takes away any suspense

[01:21:18] it also takes away any options it takes away a world maybe Tiffany's a little paranoid and she

[01:21:24] plays her idol or something it takes away one person does decide to deflect it would create so

[01:21:30] much drama like oh my god I thought we were actually voting out Kenzie I was I was misled or what

[01:21:36] I like it just takes all agency out of the players hands it's important it wasn't the it was didn't

[01:21:42] seem like it was gonna occur occurred this episode but I also think in the future where say you're

[01:21:47] in a similar situation and maybe I'm 10 years ago I think bottom's going home but now we need to vote

[01:21:53] and I'm like could that tip me off to the fact that you know something is going oh yeah I don't

[01:21:59] need to vote if he doesn't have a vote or a title why do we need to vote people will be like oh my

[01:22:04] god maybe he does have an idol you're right Jack people these players are smart if someone's

[01:22:10] like this is a slam dunk five oh they lost their vote Jeff should probably be like let's wrap

[01:22:15] this up let's go home but if he doesn't they're gonna be like what's going that that could create false

[01:22:21] I mean I'm also like it's a bad president yeah if I'm a player I pretty much always want to I mean

[01:22:27] I don't mind obviously if we're getting rid of someone it means I'm staying in cool but I want

[01:22:31] to have that option to make a movement if I want and of course had I been had had Kenzie and Tiffany

[01:22:38] been scheming a flip on cue or whatever I'm sure they were gonna vote right

[01:22:43] takes the possibility away yeah my good friend Brandon Donlin didn't get to vote last season

[01:22:49] because they just sent Hannah home they were like okay you can go Hannah and I just I

[01:22:55] something about it doesn't sit right with me even when everyone wants that person to go I just

[01:23:01] just vote it lends a little more to window theory of like

[01:23:06] Jeff being like yeah it's time for Bono to go let's not risk this yeah

[01:23:10] I mean a little bit of time to happen is with Brandon Hans and Jeff Farne

[01:23:16] and then Hannah I have one big bonnet well that's but that was a quit you know what I mean

[01:23:21] I don't believe Bono doing quit and I don't think that Bono needs to be in the conversation with

[01:23:26] Farne and Brandon Hans he shouldn't be there's no reason for it and it throws off the Wikipedia

[01:23:32] when not years later I go back and look at that Wikipedia what happened here

[01:23:38] yeah that's the point you're gonna be checking the uh it's just survivor 46 I gotta remember how

[01:23:44] the early game went to Bono go third or fourth I can't recall how would you lensky have done

[01:23:54] you know what I'm gonna let y'all know I made it jolensky has survived every vote

[01:24:00] got the most votes at the end I think he could have won his name is at jack atkin

[01:24:13] to me it's not in hard players if a sort of 46 cast member wants to come to me because I'm not saying

[01:24:20] any of the players are bad players I'm not saying to you them or boring there's the sound bite

[01:24:24] the knockout I'm not saying that any of them are bad players boring players this or that but just

[01:24:29] the events of you know the tribals and the benefit it's like and for 46 I want to be like no this

[01:24:36] is the best TV out there like I got a little insider info for those who stuck around to the end of

[01:24:41] the podcast I know someone who works on survivor very very well season 45 was shot knowing that

[01:24:48] there were gonna be 90 minute episodes where season 46 was not shot with that in mind they did

[01:24:55] not know they would continue take that as you will I think that plays a little bit of what we've

[01:25:00] seen so far all I think so too yeah this is for the real fans only if you stuck around till the end

[01:25:05] here you get to know this that and you didn't hear it from me I'm joking joking I played it on Bono

[01:25:16] that's interesting because I could tell you from this episode at least two scenes that were added

[01:25:19] in the jump team the the bonus like that yeah that's very interesting yeah it makes a small

[01:25:27] difference but I think it I think it tributes to what some people are trying to verbalize a little

[01:25:32] yeah but that's the thing too I don't mind like somebody silly camp light scenes I like them I

[01:25:36] watch all the secret scenes so like I don't dislike them but 45 the pacing was was crisp and it

[01:25:44] was there and you could tell like when everything was going down like the pacing's really weird

[01:25:49] this season so far the first two episodes were two hours it's just it's I love it I was off I don't

[01:25:54] don't give me another fast fast fast I like having more because like Bryce that it gives it sets

[01:26:01] things up for down the line and I never am mad at seeing more but yeah it's just these you know

[01:26:06] that's why I have a lot of high hopes for next episode because no matter who loses immunity I

[01:26:11] think we'll have an interesting tribal knock on wood and so next season I can be back here

[01:26:17] totally being like that was one of the best episodes of the new era so I don't if you're

[01:26:21] so hold your horses season 46 cast don't attack Jack yet yeah wait till next week yeah until next

[01:26:28] week then it's Jack 21 remember 46 Bryce and I love you okay

[01:26:37] you watch it don't put that on survivor news this is me I am very critical as an audience member

[01:26:46] I was critical as a player too so I feel like I've been there I've taken the criticism

[01:26:51] it all comes from a place of love if you can step out and put yourself on TV

[01:26:55] I applaud you first and foremost for that I appreciate you sharing your journey with me

[01:27:00] anything I say is from an audience standpoint I've never played survivor I could be saying all

[01:27:05] all the dumbest stuff in the world.

[01:27:07] I just love the game so much and I love being able to talk

[01:27:11] about it with other people that love it, so.

[01:27:13] Alex Jack is actually giving that.

[01:27:15] Okay, Alex just threw Jack onto the butt.

[01:27:18] What are you doing?

[01:27:20] We're getting out of here.

[01:27:21] They're trying to stop.

[01:27:23] Yeah, what is, I don't even know.

[01:27:24] I didn't even say Jack's name.

[01:27:26] And we just put Jack's photo up and let those words speak.

[01:27:30] I never close out of podcasts because that much you do.

[01:27:35] I'll talk about it.

[01:27:36] No, I just love, I'm, I like study this stuff now.

[01:27:42] I love watching it.

[01:27:43] It's like a study of humans sociologically.

[01:27:46] Who, what would you do for a million dollars or in this case?

[01:27:49] What would you do for a million hearts?

[01:27:51] Yeah, that's right.

[01:27:53] Do we need to, do we need to speak on that?

[01:27:56] We should.

[01:27:56] Well, no, because I don't want to like,

[01:27:58] I don't want to pour on him because I mean, yeah,

[01:28:03] who was it?

[01:28:04] It was a great quote.

[01:28:06] Do you want to win a million hearts?

[01:28:07] You should go volunteer, is that what I want to hear?

[01:28:10] But here, is there a world though?

[01:28:12] Like, last time I say that to me, okay,

[01:28:14] I'm taking you to the end.

[01:28:15] Like you know, like, yeah, that's like,

[01:28:18] you could win a million hearts in second place.

[01:28:21] Yeah.

[01:28:22] I, here's my question to wrap us up

[01:28:24] or I don't know how long we have.

[01:28:26] Can you win and can you win the million dollars

[01:28:30] and a million hearts at the same time?

[01:28:32] Gable, look at the window.

[01:28:34] Exactly.

[01:28:35] No, no, no.

[01:28:36] Don't look there.

[01:28:38] It's a don't look there to stick with Gable.

[01:28:42] Yeah, I don't, yeah, no.

[01:28:44] So I'd say Gable.

[01:28:46] Yeah, no, I think it's totally possible

[01:28:48] and this is what I want to discreem to Bonu.

[01:28:50] You can do both.

[01:28:51] You can do both.

[01:28:52] I promise.

[01:28:53] Don't sell yourself short.

[01:28:55] But see also like again,

[01:28:57] I think in again, because I love Bonu,

[01:29:00] I also think Bonu went out there like Hanah Sura

[01:29:02] how I went out there with Kha Gyan.

[01:29:04] I don't think I went out there

[01:29:05] with the intention to win.

[01:29:06] Well, I know I did.

[01:29:08] I'm just being honest.

[01:29:09] Yeah, no, no, I understand what you're saying.

[01:29:12] I think survivor needs these people

[01:29:14] that are out there for the adventure of a lifetime,

[01:29:16] if you will.

[01:29:17] That is a good version of a fan

[01:29:20] that's not a recruit

[01:29:21] that would be playing the game

[01:29:22] maybe differently than most super fans.

[01:29:25] I agree.

[01:29:26] That's it.

[01:29:26] It's like when you get the super fans,

[01:29:28] a lot of people are going to play very similarly

[01:29:30] based on these last few episodes they've seen

[01:29:33] and the history of the game.

[01:29:34] Whereas if you get these wild cards,

[01:29:36] you don't know what's about to happen

[01:29:37] and they might play for a million hearts.

[01:29:39] I thought it was a great cast and choice.

[01:29:41] No, absolutely.

[01:29:42] 10 out of 10, 1000%.

[01:29:44] But also he won my heart at the end there.

[01:29:46] He got it though.

[01:29:48] Right.

[01:29:49] What I also do love about them casting super fans,

[01:29:52] sometimes it's not like no shade,

[01:29:56] sometimes it's not the great players

[01:29:58] that we get.

[01:29:59] Sometimes it is the Jalinsky's

[01:30:00] and I kind of always love players.

[01:30:04] I'm totally with you.

[01:30:05] We need both.

[01:30:06] We can't have every super fan be amazing and awesome.

[01:30:09] It's part of the diversity of like the show in the game

[01:30:13] you need a Jacob Dürer when every once in a while.

[01:30:15] You need a Jalinsky every once in a while

[01:30:17] to be like, oh, they don't all know what they're doing.

[01:30:20] And it's not even that you don't know the game.

[01:30:22] Sometimes a real, and here I go.

[01:30:24] Four of that episode

[01:30:25] and I'm bringing up damn James Jones, right?

[01:30:27] James Jones says this to me all the time, right?

[01:30:29] Like it's lived experiences.

[01:30:32] And James Jones has the statistic

[01:30:33] that the most survivor winners fall in the range of 32 to 43.

[01:30:39] Like most of the winners fall in that age range

[01:30:42] and it's like, I haven't gotten there yet.

[01:30:45] But when I do, it's like, I get it.

[01:30:49] You know, sometimes it's like you have to be book smart

[01:30:52] but you're not street smart.

[01:30:53] And you don't understand.

[01:30:54] It's connected with people of all walks of life.

[01:30:56] And when you're a bit older,

[01:30:58] you have more experiences to relate with.

[01:31:00] When you're 21, you're like, oh, I'm in college.

[01:31:02] What do you do?

[01:31:03] And they're like, oh, I work a job at this then

[01:31:04] and you're like, I don't know anything about that.

[01:31:05] Like it's harder to relate.

[01:31:08] So yeah, that's why I went to one go silent but

[01:31:12] I'll take it.

[01:31:13] How old were you when you won go silent?

[01:31:14] 33.

[01:31:15] Wow.

[01:31:16] And I've been...

[01:31:18] That's always been my thing.

[01:31:19] If you're in your 30s, if you're in your 30s,

[01:31:22] that is the time to win survivor.

[01:31:24] Oh, that's wonderful.

[01:31:26] I totally get that.

[01:31:27] I'm 30 now, so I have joined the club, I get it.

[01:31:29] Yeah.

[01:31:30] On Kagan, Bryce was...

[01:31:33] I was in my 20s.

[01:31:34] Yeah, you were in your 20s and it was like...

[01:31:36] 14 years ago.

[01:31:37] No, no, no, no, no!

[01:31:39] No, no, no, no!

[01:31:40] Indole that math I just said I was like 17 years

[01:31:43] that can't be true.

[01:31:44] It has been a decade this year though.

[01:31:47] It is crazy.

[01:31:48] Yeah, that makes sense.

[01:31:49] Wow, that's nuts.

[01:31:51] You're still in your 20s, right?

[01:31:52] I am.

[01:31:53] He's still, yeah.

[01:31:54] I just turned 20 when I was on...

[01:31:57] I wasn't even 20 when I filmed Kagan,

[01:31:59] but when it aired, I was 20.

[01:32:01] Yeah.

[01:32:02] Gotcha.

[01:32:03] Gotcha.

[01:32:04] Yeah.

[01:32:05] I'm not about to argue with y'all, okay.

[01:32:07] 20 and a half.

[01:32:08] 20 and a half.

[01:32:11] Alex is so great to have you.

[01:32:12] Thank you for coming back.

[01:32:14] We might need you to return.

[01:32:15] Well, listen, we'll have to check the tweets.

[01:32:18] Yeah.

[01:32:19] If they want you to return,

[01:32:23] maybe we'll have you back.

[01:32:25] We'll leave it up to the people.

[01:32:26] No, I'm really grateful that you guys asked me back.

[01:32:29] I have a fun time talking with all of you.

[01:32:31] Always great to see my good buddy, Jack here.

[01:32:33] And like I said, I'm just such a survivor super fan.

[01:32:36] So I appreciate you letting me come on

[01:32:38] and just gush with you guys.

[01:32:41] Listen, at least we could do, okay?

[01:32:44] If we had a million dollars, we'd give it.

[01:32:46] But you know, here's the hearts.

[01:32:47] Here's the heart.

[01:32:48] I'll take them.

[01:32:49] Give me all the hearts.

[01:32:51] Wendy Z. Thank you again.

[01:32:53] Also, Jack Eckens.

[01:32:55] Appreciate you.

[01:32:56] We are rooting for you.

[01:32:57] If you do not know this Sunday,

[01:32:59] Jack Eckens is in a celebrity boxing match

[01:33:02] and the purple pants posse,

[01:33:04] I need your support to support my baby boy.

[01:33:08] Okay.

[01:33:09] We're out of reach.

[01:33:10] We need it.

[01:33:11] That's what you're looking for.

[01:33:12] I'm flying out by on you to come praise him.

[01:33:14] Get your hands off.

[01:33:16] His negotiations with God were not the best.

[01:33:18] Maybe not the manager you want.

[01:33:20] I did hear some of my dissay Jolinsky is training.

[01:33:24] Well, actually, Jolinsky's in, lives in Vegas

[01:33:28] but he's going to be out of town this weekend.

[01:33:30] I'm going to walk out with Jolinsky.

[01:33:32] You should know what I mean.

[01:33:33] Great.

[01:33:34] He could have chucked an hourglass before you.

[01:33:36] That would have been a thing.

[01:33:37] I want to stop up by you and have people.

[01:33:40] But before we go, how are you feeling going into a Jack?

[01:33:43] Mm.

[01:33:44] It's a great question.

[01:33:46] I think I need cue to coach me on my answer here.

[01:33:48] He's about Jeff.

[01:33:51] It's time to vote.

[01:33:52] I'm chilling and we're all vibing.

[01:33:57] We're all vibing.

[01:33:58] It should be hopefully a good time.

[01:34:00] We're also wearing a lot of detective gear.

[01:34:03] So what's the protective gear?

[01:34:05] We're wearing like head gear, mouth guard,

[01:34:09] the most cushioned gloves, a cup, yo.

[01:34:14] Can't hit below the belt.

[01:34:15] What is this MMA?

[01:34:16] I don't know.

[01:34:17] I don't know why we need a cup, but I'm always

[01:34:18] happy to protect the jewels.

[01:34:23] But yeah, I don't know.

[01:34:24] It should be a fun weekend, baby boy.

[01:34:26] It's broke.

[01:34:27] So totally willing to sell my body for money.

[01:34:31] So it's not this.

[01:34:34] Well, listen, Jack, we support you.

[01:34:37] So you know we will be your cheerleaders.

[01:34:39] We will be watching here on the East Coast.

[01:34:43] And if you guys want to tune in to support Jack Eckons,

[01:34:46] he has it on his page, 21 Jack Eckons.

[01:34:49] And then we want to six casts to check it out.

[01:34:53] He reviews only $15.

[01:34:56] So it's not your classic paper view where it's like 60.

[01:34:58] So if you want to look excited.

[01:35:03] We'll get another first time you were going to do this.

[01:35:05] The other one got canceled right?

[01:35:06] Exactly.

[01:35:07] I did train a little bit for that.

[01:35:09] If you're a 46 or who doesn't like me,

[01:35:11] you're definitely going in.

[01:35:14] That was all employed and get people to watch.

[01:35:16] It's like a dunk contest.

[01:35:17] He had to make himself super unlikely before the flip.

[01:35:20] I'm not going to, I'm not going to shit talk my opponent

[01:35:21] but I will.

[01:35:24] 46.

[01:35:26] Yeah, he's like, I'm going to leave Breppe out alone.

[01:35:28] But 46, I'm coming for you.

[01:35:31] Nobody is specific just the painting.

[01:35:33] It's just the pacing of the episode.

[01:35:36] He's like, I'm meeting the editors in the sitting

[01:35:38] the back.

[01:35:39] We're going outside.

[01:35:42] Maybe I'll be with the same guest.

[01:35:46] Anyway, yeah, it's Sunday night.

[01:35:50] All right.

[01:35:51] I'm going to get the paper view deck.

[01:35:52] Rise you coming over to watch?

[01:35:54] See, I will be there.

[01:35:57] All right, this been your survivor news.

[01:35:59] We'll be back next week covering episode five

[01:36:03] and we'll see how to pace go.

[01:36:05] We'll see how we'll see how Jack.

[01:36:08] I'm going to walk the next episode.

[01:36:11] You have to now.

[01:36:13] Yeah, pack yourself into a corner.

[01:36:15] Just fucking walk the land.

[01:36:17] Yeah.

[01:36:18] All right.

[01:36:18] Thanks for listening.

[01:36:20] It's the purple pants.

[01:36:21] It's the purple pants.

[01:36:22] It's the purple pants.

[01:36:23] High cash.

[01:36:24] You better get your headphones and listen up quick.

[01:36:28] It's the purple pants.

[01:36:29] High cash.

[01:36:29] You better listen in public.

[01:36:31] My mic is something.

[01:36:32] Her.

[01:36:33] It's the purple pants.

[01:36:34] High cash.

[01:36:34] She's trying to unwind.

[01:36:36] You better get that box wide.

[01:36:38] It's the purple pants.

[01:36:39] High cash.

[01:36:40] You're trying to get your snitch.

[01:36:41] You better hurry right then.

[01:36:42] Go in the purple pants.

[01:36:43] Go in the purple pants.

[01:36:44] Go in the purple pants.

[01:36:47] OK, round two.

[01:36:48] Name something that's not boring.

[01:36:51] Laundry?

[01:36:52] Ooh, a book club.

[01:36:54] Computer solitaire, huh?

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