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[00:00:00] You played yourself and got voted out This is why blank lost This is why blank lost This is why blank lost Welcome back to a double eviction why blank lost I'm David Bloomberg and joining me as always is my co-host Chappelle

[00:00:28] As we have a lot to talk about from the outcomes of that wild ride on Thursday night Yeah, the double eviction was fun David And, you know, fun double eviction means a lot of work for us We got to move very quickly to talk about why these people lost Because there were so many different iterations of how this could have happened What could have gone down And some very surprising things I'd say happened too, you know, in the double So, yeah, I can't wait to discuss how we got here

[00:00:55] Yes, yeah, I was thinking, I mean, I know I made different predictions last week Because, of course, we make those predictions before knowing anything But by the time we were getting there, I was thinking we'd be talking about Melody and Yasha And I had all sorts of Melody stuff ready to go in my head But we have two very active players to talk about instead And, of course, we will do so by following the same path for them as we do every week

[00:01:21] Comparing how both played to a set of guiding rules I originally wrote way back in 2004 And have modified ever since We will analyze their actions using what we saw on TV, live feeds, interviews, and other information With the most recent published version of the rules at robhaswebsite.com slash bigbrotherrules But before we get to all of that We have some other things to discuss about the week in general And one of those includes the reason we're not talking about Melody However, to steal a line from Julie

[00:01:50] But first, on Thursday, before the episode, I posted two videos on my accounts One, I was 100% right about The other, I did not foresee a big change coming about So the first one, I talked about Drew swearing on his sister After Yash sniffed out the fake cousin lie But my point was, it doesn't matter Swearing on someone is meaningless

[00:02:20] And I hoped that he wouldn't hold to it And he didn't So good for him And yet, to our knowledge, unless there is breaking news His sister Natalie has not been struck down by lightning as of this recording I've never really understood the swearing on somebody Like, almost like the origin of that It's just something I've known people will do, right? Like, swear on your kids But I always thought, what do you mean by that? And I think that one season of Survivor

[00:02:48] I want to say it's like Fiji or something like that They're like, so you damn your kids to hell by I was like, wait, I didn't know it was all that You know, like That's what y'all been saying this whole time? You know, why would y'all put y'all family in that position in the first place? But I just never thought that was a thing that I had the power to do You know, like, I know words are powerful But I've never really felt that way So anytime somebody's saying, I swear this on this, on this, on this Short of putting your hand on the Bible I'm really kind of just like, hey, do your thing

[00:03:17] You know, if you put your hand on the Bible This is kind of where you lose me Because I wouldn't do it But I also wouldn't judge you for doing it It's just something Right It's just not something I'm going to do, you know? Right, yeah The swearing and damning somebody to hell I mean, that seems rather unfair It's like, you know, you end up in hell And you're like, but I'm even doing it You hear, well You know, your brother swore on your life On your soul And then he lied

[00:03:46] So you're here, blame him Oh wait, you can't, because you're stuck here Sorry So I think it's usually swearing on their life And, but even that It's, yeah It's, to my mind I mean, some It started certainly When there was a much more Heavily oriented belief In that sort of thing Now, I call it superstition And I call it even worse than that

[00:04:16] I just call it silliness Because, you know, other people have said Dee has said Famously, she said on Survivor I'll swear on my mom, my dad, my dog I don't care Tony swore on everyone You know And so, yeah It is, to my mind Absolutely meaningless Unless another person puts meaning on it Which Yash clearly did Because, no, you can't swear on this person Who might be fake But I will agree

[00:04:45] If you swear on the person who I know Is real Yeah It's like It's all pretend in the game Yeah Yeah, in the game It just feels like such a Like, such an easy button to push for people You know, it's like If I figure out You're the person who does hold that in high esteem I can use that to my advantage Because I know that you're going to think That's a line I'm not going to cross But if I'm a person who doesn't mind crossing that line Then, yeah, it kind of puts me at an advantage Now, of course

[00:05:14] Yash will eventually go to the jury house And then he can decide Whether or not he wants to use that against you And I think that's also fair game If you can swear on it And, you know And he And make him believe it Based on this This Rule that he has in his mind Or in his beliefs Okay, cool But he also has the The ability To use that same Feeling that he had When he gave up You know The HOH Or the veto Or whatever to you He can use that to place his vote So I think it's got a double-edged sword Personally, again I

[00:05:44] Wouldn't really care But, again I can't make that decision for other people Like you said I have a hard time believing that Me and my God You know We're going to have I'm going to be having a conversation like What do you mean my brother played 99 to beat And he swore on my life What are you talking about? You know Like I wasn't even there I didn't even watch that show What are you talking about? You know So It's always interesting when it happens But I'm always more fascinated to see How the person who is Who's a victim to this Does React to it

[00:06:13] Right Is Yash going to go in and be like That's a no starter Like, you know I'm not I'm not I cannot give you that vote Because you were willing to play With somebody else's life or soul You know Or are they going to come in and say Man, I shouldn't have fell for that That was a good move Right Yeah And you're right about the jury And it depends I think if he tells Angela that After Angela was all Put it on your brother Put it on your brother To him I think Well, plus she's Mostly biased against Drew anyway So, you know I think

[00:06:43] Angela And like Lala They could definitely Take that and say Well, there's another reason Not to vote for Drew But someone like Dee Like, let's say Dee ends up In the jury On the round table She is going to laugh She is going to laugh At that If someone tries to say Well, we shouldn't vote For him to win Because of that reason So, yeah It depends on the jurors In that situation

[00:07:12] But, yeah I think it was Twyla in Survivor Yeah, it was Twyla That's who it was Yeah She swore on her kids Or something like that And went against it And, yeah The jury Ripped her apart for that Now That was in the Earlier days Of reality television And, again It depends On the jury If you're already Against Twyla Well, that's another reason To rip her apart Yeah Good point And I think Angela If I'm not mistaken Was asked about that And said In the moment

[00:07:42] I felt like I felt that strongly About Yash doing that But I don't care now You know Like, Angela Immediately switched up But if it's somebody She doesn't like You know Now you can use that As a weapon To punish them For how they treated you In the game Or, you know Or for beating you In the game And so It's something that To me Is like That's a break glass In case of an emergency move Because it does have Such, you know Repercussions If you're doing it To the wrong person You know I wouldn't go there Immediately Because then It loses meaning

[00:08:12] You know what I'm saying You gotta have to save it For something It's like Oh yeah Your cousin I would never Swear on my cousin Yash is like No, swear on your sister Because I know How you feel about your sister This cousin just popped up You know So you kind of Have to keep that Kind of in the back Of your mind Like Oh, maybe there is This one person I should like Maybe talk up Throughout the season And then if it Finally gets there I was like Okay You know how I feel About my Uncle John It's like Oh yeah He always talks about His Uncle John I know he's not Lying about that He's like Okay, there is no Uncle John You know So I don't know

[00:08:42] I don't hate it That's what some people Have told me Is I would come in With fake relatives Just so I could swear on them And talk it up From the beginning You know Make it settle Right Right And so the other thing is If you're going to swear on someone You have to be willing To do it for everything Because I've seen this happen Like in a mafia game Of all things Where someone was like I swear on my sister I am telling the truth And I was like Okay But you realize Every time now

[00:09:11] That we ask you something You're going to have to swear on your sister Because otherwise We're going to know you're lying Yeah Yeah No, that's a good point You can call them out right then Just like Yeah, swear on your sister again Yeah, swear on your sister this time Because I know what you did this time But swear on your sister Just to see Just to see how How beholden you are to it You know I just kind of want to judge it You know Now I have a baseline For what you will say And I'm going to hold it Against you moving forward It's a game But you know There are certain pressure points That people hold In higher regard than others Yeah

[00:09:41] Now some people Have pointed out to me In comments on that video That technically The deal was He would vote However Yash wanted In the first vote Which he did And that he wouldn't Nominate Yash If he won HOH After that And so what they're saying Is well He was therefore Okay to vote Yash out Because That wasn't part of the deal Now Can I swear That I remember Every Can I swear On my sister Who by the way

[00:10:11] I don't have one That That You know I remember Every Detail Of everything They discussed On the live feeds In the middle of the night During that veto comp No But I know There was Discussion This is a new Beginning It You know All of that Extended beyond Just those Very specific Things we saw On the show Plus They talked Multiple times In secret After the comp As they both Acted like They were going To work together So

[00:10:40] Whether it was Specifically On You know That oath Or just Promises made In general It was still A betrayal Of his work Yeah And I don't even think You know Not that the intention Matters But I think Drew was open To the idea Of it If it worked out You know If it came to it He's like Yeah I could do it And we even saw When he placed his vote Where it looked like He you know Kind of was You know Toying with the idea Like I don't know You know So it's not like It was 100% Like I came in here To lie To get him on the block

[00:11:10] To get him out of here It was more like A Dan Giesling move You know Speaking of putting Your hand on the bible But Yeah I Not to say That that takes Anything away from it Though You know A lie is a lie So To me It still doesn't matter You know Swear whenever you want However you want One of the first things We learned as a Big Brother fan Is that you can bounce Check to the Big Brother house Most people learn There are still There are still some people In some of my comments Saying Nope I don't like That he lied And I'm like Okay so you're

[00:11:40] A new Big Brother fan You've never seen it before I've watched every season Can't be How have you Watched every season And you still get upset By lying in Big Brother How You gotta be unhappy You're watching every season And you're putting yourself Through hell Because these people Are lying constantly They're lying since the The first HOH When they say Oh I'm definitely Not gonna vote you out And then they vote that person out I don't think anybody In this season Or most seasons Of Big Brother Can say they never told a lie You know Even Adrian Who refused to lie When it mattered to most

[00:12:10] You're still holding on to that I will never let it go I think that's because You were the guest Co-host then Your entry into Big Brother Why Blank Lost That's why it's stuck In your mind It was trial by fire David okay I came in thinking like What do you mean You won't lie Are you crazy And now We've grown so much Since then Yes Yes Now the other video I made Was about Melody Saying she hadn't

[00:12:39] Accomplished anything In the season yet And I agreed Completely with her Because Well She hadn't She hadn't won any She hadn't won any comp She hadn't done anything In terms of strategy Etc And I certainly And I certainly did not Expect her to win Well Anything And then She wins Two comps And has to make Actual strategic decisions And went with the right one Where Where was this melody All season Chappelle

[00:13:09] There are less people Competing now You know I think everybody's Everybody's in these spots Where they have to win Or basically go home And I think It was finally time Right There are so many Types of challenges In Big Brother Where That many people Can win There are so many Challenges that You just don't stand A chance at If you're not The most athletic Person in the house We saw the wall Where like The athletes are gonna win And although people Were shocked at Lala Winning She was still An athlete Lala is ripped You know So to come in And be like Alright Yeah we're shocked Because she's an Older person Who's won that competition But I mean

[00:13:39] You seen the abs On that lady The course trip Is crazy So for Melody She's coming in And she's looking around Like dang I'm a corporate Game show host How am I gonna beat Kamu the MMA fighter Or you know Lala the bodybuilder You know what I'm saying There's so many other people But those people Are gone now You know So now she has to beat Devins Who's no slouch But also Doesn't probably have The pedigree that Somebody athletically Like Kamu would She doesn't have to beat Lala Who's not there anymore You know We whittled down the field

[00:14:08] To a certain group of people And although they are Challenge threats They're not unstoppable You know There are a couple people Who look like they're unstoppable But if they slip up You have to take the shot And that's exactly What they did Yeah One of them was stopped This week Yeah And I mean I mean She crushed That ball one They found her skill Right there I don't know She's in flow state Yeah Now it was funny You know During the

[00:14:38] Rushing around In the double Eviction To see Taylor Trying to convince Melody To nominate Drew In the moment And yeah Good for Taylor She had to take the shot Yeah But it wasn't going to happen And then Taylor Got all upset Because she seemed To think Melody Didn't understand What would happen And I think Yash said something Similar in one of his Interviews Like I don't think She understood It wasn't a matter Of not understanding She fully understood It was a matter Of not trusting Taylor and Yash

[00:15:08] To keep him And I don't Blame her Although I mean Derek On Unlocked Said He did Blame her That Melody Made a horrible Renom Like Derek Hello Hello No That's Absolutely Not true That's a ridiculous Thing to say Were you actually Paying attention Or were you busy Getting ready For Unlocked I don't know

[00:15:37] What's going on Yeah I think my issue And it's It's more so An issue With the Big Brother fandom And alumni included So I'm not Excluding Derek From this But once the fandom Decides in their mind Who they think Should go home Then it doesn't Really matter The logic That these other People use Because it just Doesn't make sense To you Right And so For Derek And these Big Brother alums They've been saying We want the icons out It doesn't matter How the icons Can benefit your game In the moment It doesn't matter What the icons Can do for you We want them out

[00:16:07] So when they see The chance to take out An icon in this spot Or you know They're like Why would you Take out Why wouldn't you Take out D Why wouldn't you Put up Drew Why would you Like hey Yash is going to win Out If you don't Take him out The game The man has won He's been immune For seven weeks They couldn't have Got him if they Wanted to A bunch of times This is the chance To take the shot And for Melody She's like Yash being in the game Later on Does not benefit me Either Yeah

[00:16:36] D being gone Is not great I mean D being here Is not great for me But is Yash being here Great for me You know who Is potentially Great for her Drew Drew might Actually keep her around Because they have A flirt man They've been You know Trying to work out This final two thing For a very long time It seems like It's about to lock in She's running out of options Why would she want To be on an island Or the third To Taylor and Yash You know It doesn't make sense For her to risk Her own ally

[00:17:05] Because she doesn't Have any more I don't know To me It's very It's very simple That you wouldn't Put up your number one In this situation But for Derek He's like But we gotta get An icon out You gotta get these Yeah Hey You're not looking At this from Melody's point of view Well and you're assuming That Yash And Taylor Are telling the truth Right Now Yash later said In interviews That he would have voted D out In that situation But We don't know What Taylor would have done

[00:17:35] I mean maybe they would have Stood by their word Maybe We have no idea And as we'll Talk about I think later When we get to the rules They kind of threw away Their credibility The week before With Melody So how do you expect Melody to do that So just Derek saying that Is just like Was mind blowing to me And it's Yeah And there's still people There are still plenty of people Out there Saying it too Which you know That's one reason I wore this shirt

[00:18:04] I may be wrong But it's highly unlikely So let's You know And that applies to both things That we've talked about here Because No No I'm just not Sorry Uh All right We can move on To Uh Julie Chen Moonves Is wrong about Blake But For the third week in a row She didn't say anything Particularly horribly wrong Now there were a few Smaller things I'll get to In a moment But in her weekly Dalton Ross interview

[00:18:34] She was surprisingly On point About both Barrett and Yash Uh She even asked Barrett Questions after he was evicted And hit on Some of the very topics We're going to talk about Now I won't go into Details now Because The rules are for To discuss those But I have to Be honest It's freaking me out A little bit Like Did they actually Hire a good intern To keep her updated On what's going on I hope they pay That intern I do You know Because That person is working hard

[00:19:03] I think Big Brother Has done such a good job In In Revamping And elevating the game Uh I think that The original Big Brother Was amazing Big Brother 2 Through Like 10 You know Those are great seasons Of television You really get to see The social interactions With these people Different walks of life And all that kind of stuff And then we know There's some leadership changes And the production It really goes in a different Direction And it gets really wacky For a while To where it's kind of like What are we watching What is it What is this show even And then they all Game the system They figure it out

[00:19:33] And then it becomes boring At some points You know Where it's like Okay This interesting stuff Could happen But we got these people Winning cops And everybody's just like Stays big massive alliances And Big Brother has been around For so long That they've had to pivot And try different things And every season We get different twists But now Big Brother has really been Promoting itself As a show That people should come And watch more You know The social media presence Is on point These days You can tell They have younger eyes On it It's really trying to like Stay Kind of in the moment

[00:20:02] We hear people On the show That say Why do they call this show Big Brother You know They have not They don't The show's been on so long That people don't even know How it originated Where it came from And that's fine But because of that Big Brother still has to Stay relevant It has to find a way To stay on the front Of people's minds And so It did that But now You have to make sure Your host is up to date too You know I think that Survivor Does a bad job about this I think Jeff Probst Is trying to like He's desperately Grasping for these things Right Bring in Mr. Beast You know I'm gonna rap for you

[00:20:32] Things like that It's like hey That's That's not what We're looking for here Maybe the Mr. Beast thing Was cool I think the coin flip Does You know Turned out to be Decent television But I think that Big Brother has now If If This is a streak I will say Because Julie You've been You've been wrong A lot But It does feel like There's somebody In her ear Or you know On the cue cards Saying Here are the talking points For the week We know you don't Watch the show closely But you look silly When you say things like this And I think it helps Because Julie

[00:21:01] Is the face of the show So she If she lacks credibility Then the show lacks credibility You can't have The host of the show Coming in Saying crazy stuff Because then you're like I'm not listening to that Or I'm not watching that Or I'll just watch the feed You know I'll just watch the feeds Or I'll just listen to the updates Like no Julie You need to get tapped in Like everybody else So I'm happy to see it Yeah And I'm going to take credit for it Because we have this segment She listens to this podcast Yeah Yeah I think clearly Someone is listening to this podcast And hearing us

[00:21:31] Or you know The videos that I was putting out That I do put out When we have the segment You know Saying Look here are the things That she did wrong I Sometimes tag her in them Although usually Her Instagram tagging Is disallowed For some reason But Big brother You know I tag big brother So if social media If they have social media people Going look Look We keep seeing these videos About Julie being wrong Now Do I really think that? No But hey I'm going to take credit for it anyway

[00:22:01] And so So You know We We did this I will say That Like I said She wasn't right About everything Here She She She thought Melody Should have Nominated Drew Instead of Yash When Devin Vetoed himself But And she said this In her interview With Dalton Ross

[00:22:30] But She admitted She needed to go back And listen to the Last minute strategizing Which to me Is code for I need to go back And have the intern Explain it to me Yeah Because do we really think She's going to go back And watch The last minute strategizing It'd be wild for Julie To become a fan of the show now You know Like to really get invested In the show Because we know She has her favorites Julie definitely has The people that she likes She She's seen

[00:23:00] The edited show But for Julie To really get like Tapped in On the strategy Yeah I think that I think that's welcomed I think that's a welcome change You know I don't Like you said I don't really believe That Julie's like Okay let me go Let me go Like tap in And see what's going on But it would be nice It really would So that you're not Saying things that You know Make you look silly To me I just feel like The house guests They are in there so long Right They have so many conversations And so to just take You know This like 13 second clip

[00:23:29] And make it the whole reason This person lost Or the whole reason This person Should have gone home Or should have been on the block It's like It's not really looking Holistically at the show And if you're going to have Cameras on these people 24 hours a day 24-ish hours a day You know Then why not Utilize the things That you learn Throughout the whole season I mean that's the whole point Of YX loss Right Right The other thing She got wrong Was that She said in her interview That she loved How Yash stuck to his lie

[00:23:59] About the BB Broad Now We'll talk about that later But Spoiler alert There's nothing to love About that So Yeah She was still wrong About a couple of things But for her Good week for Julie Good few weeks for Julie Mm-hmm Tell her Yeah Alright Well we can move on To the actual players We are here to discuss Because Barrett and Yash Both made significant mistakes In the past week Maybe not the ones

[00:24:28] People think But the type That were worthy of Them getting evicted Because of those mistakes Instant karma Doesn't always work out But Did it here To take them Both out in one night Or were there Other factors That played bigger roles For each of them It's time to find out Because at RJP We know Big Brother And we know Why Barrett and Yash Lost Now the first And most important rule Is of course To scheme and plot And We know Barrett Came into Big Brother

[00:24:57] Understanding this While it's Somewhat unclear If Yash did But as Yash was learning It seemed like Barrett had kind of This inverse response Not that he Lost knowledge But lost The will To use That knowledge But starting With Barrett We of course Know He was in the Crossovers And the tool shed He was locked in With the icons Plus he had a final Two with Drew The jugglers

[00:25:28] And we can't forget FAP as well I'm not going to do A demonstration Of that Please don't For those For those Who are just Doing the audio I actually did Juggle when I Said the jugglers That's why I mentioned I have broken Chappelle You got me Early on

[00:25:57] He told us Flat out In a camera talk That he wanted To be seen As a puppy dog Fanboy Of the icons For the moment And he certainly Was With some viewers Seeming to forget That he was Doing this On purpose As opposed To Drew Who I think Just was A puppy dog Fanboy Of the icons But you know That's a different Story for a Different day I like that He articulated His strategy That's something That a lot of Big brother players Don't do

[00:26:27] Or maybe they Don't have The strategy But because We know That Barrett Was saying From jump Okay I'm gonna get In good with The icons And then I'll go From there You know I was very Happy with The scheming And plotting He was doing He was in The conversation Now the icons Were definitely In charge You know Because they Were able To move Around And create Other alliances In a way That he wasn't Now he was In a couple Of them With them But they Were definitely The leaders Of these Alliances That he Was a part Of So there's Definitely More scheming And plotting

[00:26:56] He could have Done Decided On a whim That it Should have Been Barrett Or Drew Then it Would have Been Barrett Or Drew You know He didn't Have enough Like defense It was definitely In good And he was Doing what He needed To do We saw I've talked About this Before We saw Him doing So much Cuddling With D And you Know The whole Drew And Devin Thing that They were Doing Like he Was in Good with Them But you Know He was

[00:27:26] Doing it At the Detriment Of FAP You know You know The people That he Actually Considered His friends And you Know He was Allowing The icons To make Other Connections Like again If the Red corner Had decided All right We're You know The cross Well not The crossovers But the Red corner You know The Thogmu Or Chagmu And then The icons Decided There Okay We're Going to Take out Barrett Instead of Mallory Or we're Going to Take out Barrett Instead of Drew Then he Would have Gone home He didn't Have a lot Of other Outside Connections Like that So he Was doing A lot Of

[00:27:56] Scheming And plotting But there's Definitely Things he Could have Done Better Yeah And you Know It didn't Take him Long To realize Where he Stood Situations Happened Like he Was pressured By Devons To vote Out Mallory Much Earlier Than Mallory Actually got Voted out The first Go round Of that But he Also knew As he Discussed In interviews That within That alliance There were At least Three big Threats Ahead of Him As shields So it Was a Fairly Safe Spot to

[00:28:26] Be for The first Part of The game Plus D Was Protecting Him From Chagmu And you Know in Return He passed Along Information Like telling D and Devons About Lala's Meeting Where there Was that Discussion Of targeting The icons And talking About them As big Threats And he Was biding His time Yeah So I Yeah So I Don't mind Biding your Time right Especially if You're putting In the work

[00:28:56] Like you said With D He was Putting in The work So there's It's not like She just Saved him On a Wimp She knew That this Was somebody That she Could count On to To really Have her Back later On or at At least She thought Right Or to an Extent I guess I should Say And so Yeah I agree That like It's not By happenstance That Barrett Makes it This far Whereas there's Some people Who make it This far In the game And they Can't really Tell you How they Got there They just Were there By the grace Of other People instead Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah And I Think he

[00:29:26] Probably Would have Kept Biding His time A bit Longer But then We saw What happened The icons Convinced him And drew To bring Mallory And melody Into the Mosh pit Giving assurances Of safety Which they Then immediately Broke When he Melody And mallory All foolishly Threw the HOH Comp to Let D Win Which led Directly to Mallory's Eviction And this Made Barrett Realize That he Was not In a Trustworthy Alliance To further Emphasize This

[00:29:55] He saw Or we Saw Well both Of us Saw the Ridiculous Situations Like Angela Walking into The storage Room Where he And drew Were talking And just Saying out Of the blue I trust You Which he Described as Low budget Movie acting And And then D Told Barrett The full Truth about The bribe Meaning He knew That she Could have Made him Safe as Well And didn't

[00:30:25] Every bone In his body Told him They did not Trust him And they Would be Coming after Him And all Those bones Were right He tried Twice to Make moves Against them Widing to Vote out Drew And then Devons But both Won blockbusters That prevented It So when He won HOH It was Time to Make the Move And look I know We've talked About it Already There are People who Say Barrett made The wrong Move Or he Did it Too soon We Discussed This on Last week's Podcast

[00:30:55] The answer Is no You're wrong It was Final eight The very Soonest He could Possibly have Power again Was final Six If he had Won HOH Again Which you Know against People who Were better At comps Generally It had To be Done When he Did it But now That he Was evicted There are Some results Oriented People saying See Told you No The answer

[00:31:25] Still no The answer Did not Change I mean Angela Claimed while Walking out The door That it was The wrong Move But Meanwhile You had D And let Me tell You I value D Strategic Thoughts A lot More than I value Angela You know D Told Angela It was The right Move In terms Of making A big Move Emotions Aside It was A good Move And It was Because It wasn't The move Or the Timing That was The problem Here It was

[00:31:55] What happened After That Mostly When he Stayed In his Room And didn't Follow Through Yeah I said It last Week And I Stand by It He He Was Guilted You know And it Worked And it Worked It was Is a Strategy That people Have used In Big Brother Time and Time again Whereas you Get these You form These close Relationships So people Don't put You on the Block Now Barrett Maybe he Didn't always Intend on Putting the Icons on The block But based On her Their actions Throughout The season He knew It had To be Done

[00:32:24] He knew They needed To sit Next to Each other He's a Fan of The show And so You know He knows Deep down That even Though he Loves these People to Death He knows I look Crazy Not putting Them These two Survivor Players Up on the Block Next to Each other That'd be Insane for Somebody like Barrett And so He has so Many things Saying do It Do it Do it Do it But when He did It It didn't Feel good It didn't Feel good It's like His brain Said do It But his Heart was Like I Like these People I love These people You know I've seen Devin struggle With that Throughout

[00:32:54] The season Where he's About to Make a Cutthroat Move But he's Just you Know Trying to Make it Just slide Just massage It in there Like oh You And this All system Like hey We're used to People just Put you on The block And just Being okay With it You're on The block And you Might go With it When Barrett Did it To them So they Complained And they Whined And they Moaned And he Hid Barrett Went and Got away From that And I And I Empathize Because I Can't do

[00:33:24] It I don't Like when People are Sobbing And stuff Like that I don't Like to See people Sad It's not It's just Not a Thing for Me And so When people Start to Act like That I'm Definitely Going to Run But I'm Not playing A game For $750 $750 Either And so You have He did Not follow Through At all And he Left these Two Capable Big brother Players In devins And uh D Both Downstairs To do Their bidding To work Their magic

[00:33:53] And he Just took His eye Off the Ball And they Managed To get This right Past him Yeah Exactly I mean He needed To be Moving In that House Being in Discussions Talking To yash And taylor Playing Defense Against D And devins But he Didn't I mean Even Julie's Q card Intern Do it And he Acknowledged To julie In hindsight He should Have tried To keep An eye On taylor And yash The thing Is he Should have Had the Foresight To do That Yeah

[00:34:24] Tough Yeah And then After He became A target Because of It You know People are Saying oh See he Went out Because of That Well he Still needed To lose The blockbuster To melody Melody What are The odds Of that Happening Come on And all Of that All of The things That happened There That we Just talked About are Independent Of the Timing Of the Move

[00:34:53] And I'm Glad that Barrett has Been steadfast About that He told Julie he Stood by It He said The same In interviews Such as Telling Mike Bloom There was No question In my Mind What I Wanted to Do And I Would do That again I would Do it A million Times There's a Path for Me to win This game Through the Move That I Made And I Knew That it Could put Me in The position Where I Am right Now As the Very next Juror that Went out I love The icons I was Loyal to The icons For the Majority Of this Game But do I regret Putting Any of Them up On the Block When I Had a Chance

[00:35:23] To Absolutely Not And that To me Is a Key point As well Without Making This move He had No chance To win And people Who listen To me Especially In the Survivor Podcast Know I Often advise Strongly Against The Unnecessary Big Move But That wasn't The case Here There Comes a Time When You Have to Do Something And that Time Was now For Barrett He also Told Mike Bloom

[00:35:52] I would Look like A fool If I Rode The Final Five With The People Who Literally Just Backstabbed Me And got And evicted My best Friend In the Game With Seemingly No Problem They They Had Failed To show Loyalty To him And He Rebelled Dolphica Who We've Mentioned Before Makes The Alliance Maps And Posts Them On Blue Sky Also Described The Situation Well In A Blue Sky Post A Couple Of Weeks Ago Saying A Warning To Those In The

[00:36:22] Echelons Of The Power Structure Always Tend To Your Goats Make Sure They Have Food And Water Make Sure They Stay In The Fenced Area Pet Them And Love Them Don't Kick Them And Abuse Them And Expect Them To Want To Stay On Their Own Everyone Wants To Escape A Bad Situation I Couldn't Even Imagine This Season Ending And People's Criticism Of Barrett Is You Shouldn't Have Put Up The Icons Just Hear How That Sounds You Should You Went Home Because You Targeted The Three

[00:36:52] Biggest Threats In The House You Know Who Came In With A Huge Alliance Who Had Been Running The Game The Time And Then Go

[00:37:34] People Take A Shot At Them And My Brother Has Been On For Decades I Will Say This The Most Memorable People Are The One Who Took The Shot You The People You Forget Are The Who Rolled Down To

[00:38:06] Big Brother And Barrett Knew That Was His Position He Was Get One Of Them Out Now Angela Going Out Not Great Not Not Not Not Not The Best Not The Optimal Moment So I Have Issues With That But Don't Have Issues With The Icons Going Up Right And And There Are People Who Are All

[00:38:36] Over My Comments Like Oh He Should Have Waited Until Final Six Oh Really You Have A Crystal Ball And You Can Guarantee He Would Have Won The Final Six HOH That's Amazing Other People Are Like He Had An Easy Road To The Final Five And He Threw It Away Okay First Of All As We Discussed We Don't Know That He Had An Easy Road To

[00:39:06] Five Doesn't Get You The Win So What's The Difference You Go Out A Couple Spots Earlier Oh No How Terrible I Gave Myself A Chance To Win And I Still Lost I Just Lost A Little Sooner That's Giving Yourself The Chance To Win Is What You Have To Do It Didn't Go Right Because Of These Other Things That We Discussed And Yes Those Parts Are On Barrett As Well They're Just Not On Him For The Reason That Some

[00:39:36] People Are Saying They Are Yeah Because Barrett Went Into The Week Saying These Three People Are My Targets The Survivor Players And Yash And Barrett Put Yash In A position To Win The Veto That Is Crazy That Is Crazy That Is You Can Argue To The Cows Come Home About Whether Or the icons but of the icons and yash angela should be the fourth option and the fact that she was the one who went home and it could have been prevented by i don't know not picking the biggest challenge

[00:40:06] threat to make sure that he was going to be safe essentially so that one of the icons might like this is crazy you know i'll give barrett a lot of credit for taking the shot but it was still a half measure if you wanted one of the icons or uh or yash to go home but specifically d devins or yash those people should not have multiple chances to save themselves you had the opportunity to make sure yash did not win that veto not only did he win the veto but he took down one uh you know he put

[00:40:35] he put yourself in a situation where you couldn't you had angela on the block angela angela should not be on the block if you want if this week if your if your hoh is going to be a success right so you can maximize your odds i think i do have issues with something the execution of what he did but the idea that it's time to take a shot no i don't have any i don't have any issue with that right right now there were of course other things barrett did both good and bad uh we discussed in

[00:41:01] our why haley and lala lost podcast that he was the decision maker for both of those eliminations because he wanted to get rid of people who were threats to his position in the game so even before he made his big move he was doing things to help himself but on the flip side after he spent most of the week in the hoh room rather than keeping an eye on things he kind of continued somewhat in that vein uh for example when devins asked barrett how long he had wanted to make that move barrett should

[00:41:31] have given him the truth you made me do it by turning on the alliance and voting out mallory but he just didn't now would it have changed anything maybe not but it could have because they would have then understood there that they had a responsibility here it wasn't just that out of the blue he decided he hated them no they caught they took an action that caused this whether they

[00:41:58] accepted responsibility or not is another matter but at least in theory there might have been some introspection of oh maybe we shouldn't hate him so much because we were the ones that started this whole thing you know so that was the one thing the game he's playing is a double-edged sword you know it's like i want to be the vet pet to then go backstab the bets well how do you think they're going to react to that you know so that's exactly where we are right now right so it's like whether

[00:42:26] or not they understand where you're coming from it doesn't matter because you've got yourself so in so good with them that they have the right to feel betrayed now do they have the right to you know to be irrationally upset about it not really you know like it's a game you you have to make the moves that suit you but you can't get underneath these people get all in their good graces backstab them and then just be looking at them like well why don't y'all understand why you're backstabbed because they were backstabbed that's that's how it happens right you stab them in the back not in the front

[00:42:53] in the back and so uh yeah so then coming out and being like well i had to get y'all out yeah that's what you should definitely be saying do i judge them for not you know like uh just immediately being like you're right we're not mad at you no they have they have the right to react to your moves the same way you have the right right to react to theirs right them targeting mallory mallory wanted d out from the very beginning of the game it'd be crazy for for d to let mallory get to the jury it would be nuts do you see how mallory's acting right now outside of the house yeah d would be wild

[00:43:22] for that right so yeah it's at barrett's detriment but d had to choose herself and so i don't have any issue with barrett choosing himself this time yeah uh but then when he was nominated it took a while for him to really do any campaigning for himself again he just was sort of avoiding the situation he eventually talked to devins it wasn't a great pitch he was saying things like i could be your shield when first of all really barrett you're going to be the shield for d and devins

[00:43:51] how does that work and second of all shields are pretty pretty much meaningless at this late stage of the game then very late into the week he still basically hadn't campaigned to d or taylor and it seemed like he just didn't want to because he'd have to throw melody or taylor under the bus and i don't want to do that so it just came down to him essentially relying on the blockbuster

[00:44:18] there are so many people who have shown themselves to be so cutthroat in this game this season where they will turn on their their their ally in a heartbeat um you know we saw lyric like hey i'm open to the highest bidder who needs me because i'm not going down like that we saw kamu immediately jump ship on uh dog and chuck immediately without hesitation was i don't know them people he didn't even save them with the veto when he had the chance to say that he had been working with them

[00:44:43] since day one d has completely thrown everybody under the bus she don't care she's going to do the things that make sure that she gets to the next round barrett did not come in aggressively and try to save himself he was chilling and he was you know battling with the oh do i want to do this do i want to do that he should have came in throwing everything because he has so much information barrett's been in a lot of alliances he got a lot of ammo to use i don't care if it's personal information game information or personal game information whatever you want to call it he had it and

[00:45:13] he could have gone to work not to say that it would have worked but just the attempt is enough i mean we saw d basically will herself into this spot that she's in right now against you know what a lot of people say everybody's like better judgment you know like they should not be keeping somebody like d she is a shark in the water but because she was willing to move around like a shark she never stopped she never stopped working she was willing to leave devins behind her number one ally she's like

[00:45:41] you do what you gotta do i'm gonna do what i gotta do and somehow they both ended up coming out of that unscathed barrett did not have that same amount of attack when it came to campaigning for himself and so it didn't really work out yeah yeah so we could move on i think to uh to yash here uh as i mentioned earlier he did not come into the game with the same knowledge as barrett and it took

[00:46:09] him a little while to get the hang of things to be frank he never fully did though he definitely improved but at the start for example going all the way back to day six on the live feeds devins told barrett that yash hadn't talked game with him at all uh ashley didn't think yash had alliances chuck said yash didn't talk with anyone i you know terren described yash in like i think it was the first it could have been the second but i think it was the first round table as having a lack

[00:46:39] and a lack of knowledge asia talked about him having surface level conversations as he would uh talk to people and say oh well if you say i'm good i'm good even as of july 26th devins lumped yash in as one of the not very bright players with chuck and haley that is not a group you want to be lumped in with no um i think i uh i think i picked yash as my first boot for the season if i'm not mistaken

[00:47:08] and uh although i was incorrect so yeah gosh gosh was left for for the audience yeah i'm pretty sure when we did our pre our cast assessment in the beginning i was like he's not long for this this world yeah and to be fair he almost wasn't you know if not for the blockbuster there would be no yash conversation today we had weeks ago uh and and it wasn't because uh yash had did anything extremely bad it's just that he didn't know what he was doing in the game uh and so you know that the

[00:47:37] lack of knowledge is definitely a reason why somebody could get voted out now since then he was able to pivot and really start to find his footing but i would not say that yash ever had a good grasp on the game he was more like always kind of swimming up you know upstream kind of learning it until he finally just started winning and winning competitions is such a big deal in big brother right right yeah i mean when he did get around to gaming even even then he began very inauspiciously like

[00:48:05] he talked about wanting the bros to work with bros instead of it being quote like a civil war dudes voting for dudes uh he made other comments suggested he wasn't interested in working with women now obviously he learned he got over that his closest ally was taylor you know by the end here uh but it took a little while knowingly or unknowingly probably unknowingly he played the

[00:48:30] type of game where you lie low early on and then come alive when you need to even by mid-august he said he had been relying primarily on aligning with those in power so yeah like you said once he kicked it into gear then things started happening but he still thought he understood things better than he actually did yeah i think that he was actively trying to play the game after a certain point and

[00:49:00] that's good that's good but um you know like you said the right people have to win at the right times uh and he was aligned with those people when they won right when kamu wins yash is right there you know and that's perfect because yash was growing down you know when yash was uh was in charge he said oh a woman is going home this week you know he's like and that's and that's that i'm going to put a woman on the block and that's what's going to happen uh and so um you know we we knew kind of where he stood strategically a lot of people did um but it was the fact that he was with the people

[00:49:30] who were winning when they started winning i would win kamu wins then yash wins i think lala wins and yash is with those people so that's great but yash doesn't have a lot of connections outside of those people like the people started to enjoy yash very you know we would see people saying positive things about yash oh yeah i don't really want to put up yash but it wasn't a strategic alliance with a lot of those people you know the dapper dance is a fake alliance but you know it was just like blowing down some more but there were so many people who were who yash was expendable

[00:49:58] to um throughout the game in a way that barrett wasn't expendable to a lot of people you know like if we if we're going to compare the two barrett was in like five big alliances big alliances four people here five people here seven people here you know yash is in like one alliance and then he has a little relationship with this person a little relationship with this person a little you know a little uh handshake agreement with these two people but nothing really that's going to keep him off the block if anything uh yash was in danger more times than he ever he ever really knew

[00:50:27] right and that's the key the things that he didn't know because like he you know at this point famously noted that every move gives information he wasn't taking all that information in like he he told uh drew and barrett that devin's use of the diamond power veto on d showed the extent of their relationship

[00:50:51] no really really that was something he should have seen a lot earlier and or for quite a long time he thought d sucked at comps he even talked to taylor about how d was probably a survivor winner who shouldn't have won and likely did so by riding with her alliance or just being a floater and getting lucky

[00:51:11] i i just yeah it it didn't occur to him for the longest time that he was missing the full picture and you know i mean really you think that they brought d on to big brother because she was a bad winner like even think about it from that meta perspective just open your mind a little bit

[00:51:38] and they brought back angela okay but that was a bad player and a bad yeah a bad player and a bad and a non-winner i guess i should say yeah that was for drama reasons you know he didn't even bring up the d if you're just floating to the end as he said uh you know there aren't even drama reasons there and then you know he he

[00:52:06] thought uh drew barrett mallory and melody would vote to keep kamu against angela and when d found this out she was like what why do they think these things like it was just mind-blowing it's that tunnel vision that people have when they see these icons in the in the house they say oh well if obviously everybody wants those people out we saw lala make that mistake episode one we know who's going on first

[00:52:33] and so when you sit around in your bubble and your echo chamber saying well obviously it's got to be the icons obviously it has to be icons it's going to be the icons it's always going to be the icons you don't really care what other people's relationships look like because in your mind it's gotta be the icons uh it's why people say well melody doesn't understand what she's doing by you know putting you know this making this move and why this is like no you just are not looking at it from their perspective you have now taught yourself into believing that what you believe

[00:52:59] is true and unlike david uh it is highly unlikely that that's not the case uh you know you i think that for yash he did not see what the house was saying or how they were feeling because he didn't really have a strong relationship with them yash telling us that melody mallory uh would vote to keep kamu was crazy but it's because yash doesn't know them he's in the house with them but he hasn't formed enough of a bond to know that melody hates kamu you know uh it there's nothing there there's not there's not a relationship between there and matter of fact mallory doesn't love kamu either

[00:53:29] um but you have to move around the house a lot more and learn and learn those bonds obviously yash is at a deficit because he didn't know that coming in but that that doesn't change anything right because had he won the game we would have gave him credit for coming in not knowing anything and learning the game and winning right so we have to hold it against him that you came in the game you didn't know anything and it took you a long time to get on the uh on the right foot yeah we don't

[00:53:51] grade on a curve uh you know now to his credit in the kamu vote he did try to get mallory and melody over to vote to keep kamu uh he did show some magical misting powers he had those two convinced to flip until drew was like shaking them hello come back to reality you know but then yash also discovered the

[00:54:21] power of the lie he told uh mallory and melody that drew threw them under the bus and they believed him he got angela turned against true he even told various people that drew said the reason the vote flipped against kamu was mallory and melody which again he just plain made up but it caused d not to

[00:54:44] trust drew again he gave he gave taylor some advice the only thing worse than lying is going home if it's go home or lie lie which is very solid advice for big brother especially coming from him and he added it's especially helpful if you haven't been seen as lying prior to that point because you're viewed as

[00:55:09] honest and can use that to your advantage yeah the easiest way to to show that you're a liar is by winning power and didn't having a lot of people you know by saying okay i would never put you up and then putting somebody up or i don't want you to go home and then they find out that you wanted them to go home and then there's so many times to save yourself with the blockbuster and the veto you know so that person can definitely come back and have the receipts against you and say no that person is a liar it's why they don't trust d you know or for the most part is because they're like no we've seen

[00:55:37] her found so many checks in the house somebody like yash did not have power for so long so it was like for him he didn't have to lie everybody knew where he what he wanted to do he wasn't making a lot of strategic connections anyway but they could not say that he was a liar so once he started to lie he really just like he had a lot of runway to use it uh and he was correct in a world where so many people don't like choose not to lie yash was so ready to be like no i need to lie because he had been on the back foot since week one so i think that survival mode had kicked in and so that's what

[00:56:07] like i just gotta i just gotta get to the next week right like i don't think yash had any long-term plans for how he was going to win the game i don't think he had any like he didn't have an ideal final two or anybody that he knew he could get there with i think for uh yash for a large portion of the game it was just like i just gotta survive another round and you know and me and kamu's gonna make it another round and oh well kamu's gone okay well me and la la taylor are gonna make another round oh la la's gone well me and taylor are gonna make it another round and he's just winning and winning

[00:56:32] and winning at some point to where uh you know he did have a path to the end if he made it there and a lot of people wouldn't be able to say yash betrayed me because they were never aligned with him right but then yash made a critical error he fell for d's lies the same way he had tried to make others fall for his own and because of that he and taylor kept d instead of angela that was a mistake he needed to be punished for and indeed he was as he was evicted while sitting next to her

[00:57:01] which taryn pointed out on the recap was funny because part of yash's justification for keeping d was well if i sit next to angela i go home if i sit next to d i don't yeah they said the same thing about um they said the same thing about la la it was like if you sit next to la la you'll go home and then la la went home i was like wait that's not true then you know the argument the argument is so uh so flimsy because every time they say it that person that they said would never you you would

[00:57:29] never go home next to goes home and you're like wait a minute that's not supposed to happen uh and so yeah um this was it was definitely uh it was a it was a risk he took right it wasn't as though he goes in thinking like oh this is definitely the best move he's weighing his options and he's saying okay if d is willing to play ball which he won't be um then we should be able to come in and we'll have one more person to help us take out this other side he doesn't have a lot of allies he doesn't have a lot of outs here and so i don't really hold it against him too much but the idea that you would send angela

[00:57:58] home over d is actually crazy you know it's like i hear what i see where you were going with it but i just don't agree yeah and i don't agree and i do hold it against him i mean you know not that i'm you know in the strategic way because he was with those people barrett had chosen him to play the veto and instead he keeps d and doesn't tell them on top of him and the not telling them part really

[00:58:26] piled on now i have seen some people saying well even if he hadn't kept d the outcome would have been the same and that's possible but we'll never know because this isn't a choose your own adventure story where you could be like oh let me flip back to the book where he makes that decision and now follow it elsewhere it would have meant he would have had a different relationship with melody when the time came for melody to make nominations because of what i just said about how he

[00:58:52] he didn't tell melody and drew and barrett what he was doing uh he wouldn't have been seen as working with the icons he might even not have decided to win hoh if d was already gone he might not have given up the veto to drew and so on the butterfly effect hits and just opens up this world of different possibilities you can't just say as i've seen some people doing well he still would have lost veto and

[00:59:20] been put on the block we don't know that who would he have been up against angela maybe there are other variables including a whole potential different layout of alliances if he had stayed on barrett's side rather than flipping to the icons without letting drew and melody know ahead of time it put them in a

[00:59:42] position where they could not trust him going forward and even if all of that is true and what these these people are saying it's like well he it still would have ended up this way it doesn't excuse the mistake he made just like devin's winning the blockbuster doesn't mean it was okay for him to volunteer for the block it is still a mistake you cannot be results oriented yeah with yash i feel

[01:00:11] like so the issue is with me and yash the way i look at his game is that if he loses he needs to go on the block i don't care who he's with i don't care who you're aligned with i think at this point if yash loses that uh competition he's going on the block he needs to go home now does josh have the mouthpiece to survive something like that like losing the veto like you said maybe if if melody wins she doesn't put him up if the outcome was different yeah but that would be insane on melody's

[01:00:36] part you know that was like melody should be wanting yash out i i went into this uh double eviction saying everybody including taylor should be so willing to take out yash at this point because what is the point of keeping yash around if you're just going to lose with him if you don't mind getting second place then sure keep him around but to me yeah he loses that veto he's going home or at least he should now if yash is a capable player like let's say let's say it's d right you have d in the same position we know that d might survive it and i don't want to take that from yash maybe yash would

[01:01:06] so you're right uh you there is an out for yash if he doesn't you know piss off melody right even you know there's that little bit of extra like runway that you would have to be able to talk your way out of that situation if necessary but yash's target at this point is so big that i don't think there's anybody should hear a word that he's saying if yash is on that block he needs to go home yeah yeah we'll of course talk about that coming up um but but yeah i mean that and that's the thing

[01:01:33] it's just there multiple things can be true yep he made a strategic mistake and as you mentioned as we'll talk about more he was already a threat combined it was even worse with one or the other he would have at least had more of a chance yeah but going into the double eviction yash felt good and it's funny

[01:01:58] because of course you know his famous quote which i was this the one that won on unlock uh if you're glazing you won't be glazed that's what he said but he was glazed he was double glazed he told mike bloom i felt great about going into the double eviction i thought if the icons won hoh i would be all right i thought if drew wanted after we made the deal i would be all right

[01:02:23] and of course if taylor won i knew no matter what i was saved and then melody i also felt pretty good about but the thing is he would not have been all right if the icons or drew what hoh none of them were planning to stick with the deals that they had with him he just did not recognize it because like i said even though he improved quite a bit through the game strategizing was still not his best

[01:02:50] quality yes yes i agree with you but i have to say this he was using the zillennial version of glaze not the way that you're using his glaze is different yeah his his glaze is different it doesn't it it's not your fault it's not your fault that they've ruined words okay so i'll give you that uh but yeah you're right uh i think strategically it's just like it's you can tell there was there it wasn't all there for yash you know there was definitely things that he thought he had control of i think yash is one

[01:03:18] of his his uh big issues is hubris i think that was something that i i've clocked from day one is why he would go home first because i was like he doesn't know what he's doing and he thinks he does and i think that that when the more um the more uh success he was having in the game the more he started to feel himself a little bit and the more the ideas and the plans he had in his head started to make a lot more sense the things that you know when you when things are going your way you start to think oh yeah because i because i'm right i'm in charge you know so things will continue going

[01:03:48] my way he's not thinking oh maybe i'm being played because for so many weeks yash has been he's been fine you know like don't get me wrong people have been doing things that he doesn't enjoy in the game but they haven't been able to get yash specifically and he's actually getting some momentum so when people start selling him these dreams he's willing to buy him because he's kind of got the he's got some momentum he's like yeah that's right you would want to do what i want to do people are telling me what i want to hear because they because i am that good i am convincing you it's

[01:04:15] like no you're not actually that good these people are better and it's not necessarily your fault that they're better but the situation is you're in is not allowing you to see the forest for the trees you're in too deep you know it's like uh they're just giving him more and more they're feeding his ego you know yash this is what we're gonna do we're gonna do these things together he's like yeah glazing him they are glazing him they are glazing him and there's a linear way you came back around i mean glazing him yeah i mean you know i i still think the way i talked

[01:04:44] about it applies you know that they you know not that i just googled it or anything but um but no i mean yeah i the over complimenting the you know talking about that it still put him in a position where he believed them so yes i still do think that what i said applies whether it you know i mean look i i got my degree in ceramic engineering so glazing had a completely different

[01:05:13] meaning you know there uh yeah but uh but you know i still think i was pretty on point with it they you know they glazed kamu to get him out you know it was his oh kamu you're so smart kamu you you're so and yash and kamu they kind of go hand in hand a little bit you know they have the same that's why they were so easily uh you know able to align it's because they kind of have the same similar worldview the way they look at the game right it's like yeah i am good and people are

[01:05:39] telling me i am good there's a level of success that he was having and a level of confidence that i think is commendable but i think at some point if you let your confidence get to your head uh and then people start to force you to believe you start you start you start smelling yourself a little bit you start believing your own hype and i think that made them more susceptible to their uh to their lies yeah yeah all right well that was rule one so it's time to go to the second rule the other ones

[01:06:04] will be much shorter uh the second rule says not to scheme and plot too much and to keep your scheming secret barrett was okay here for most of the game but then he made a key mistake along with mallory and melody when all of them overthought the situation and decided to throw the hoh comp that d1 which of course led to mallory's eviction barrett's podcast partner posted on blue sky

[01:06:29] that he drilled into barrett not to throw comps and yet there we were yeah um so it's happened so much it happened so much this season where people were like i shouldn't throw a cop but i'm gonna outsmart my logic you know i'm gonna i'm gonna go one step further it's like oh people think i shouldn't throw a cop so i'm gonna actually throw the cop because that'll make it's like no no no no come back come back because if you by maintaining power you maintain access to a lot of people in the house

[01:06:56] you get so much information and you keep yourself and your allies safe barrett is doing all this sobbing and complaining and he makes this big move against the ally because he lost mallory but barrett whose fault whose fault is this really you know let's track this back to the moment where multiple people in your alliance are saying i could have won this but i didn't so the way barrett is mad at the allies sure i mean the icon sure they're his allies they betrayed him whatever

[01:07:27] but you betrayed your alliance first when you decided to throw hoh you should have just won it and then made the move and being able to stand in that everybody trying to play so cute everybody trying to lay low high play in the middle it's like no at some point you have to take control of the game had barrett taking control of the game then mallory might still be around so then when you get to the jury and you flip on the uh the icons oh look look at that oh my god i got numbers now you know i got extra people i got other people the pipe queen was she wasn't awful at challenges

[01:07:54] it'd be nice to have her around to win hoh it maybe you know but everybody was getting a little too cute in their gameplay and then uh by throwing the challenge they all left themselves um vulnerable for whatever d wanted to do and that's what happened yeah yeah and you know again i i still get comments people are like well he shouldn't have won he shouldn't have made the move at final eight he

[01:08:20] should have thrown that hoh and then won a later one like did you see what happened the last time he threw but yeah then during and after his hoh things went further awry for him here for example for no reason he told drew hey i plan to vote you out that was completely unnecessary i still don't

[01:08:46] understand why he did it and then of course he told drew he would pick him for veto and was okay with him using it on angela if he wanted and then changed his mind and went with yash instead because he didn't want nominations to change which okay look i get it i know we've talked about this decision already but even if you make that decision you need to tell drew before it actually happens because then drew

[01:09:14] was understandably very much not happy with either of those situations barrett is now in his hypocrite era okay he's so mad because they lied to him about mallory they betrayed mallory nobody told me the truth about mallory so then the first time he gets power he lies to drew why did you lie to him all you had to do was say drew i i want them i want the icons gone i don't trust you to use the uh to to

[01:09:41] not use the veto so i'm not putting you i'm not going to put you in that position to play that's it that's all you say uh especially if you later on you will go on and tell him to his face that you plan on voting him out you know i'm saying like if you try to like snow him and think like oh yeah i do trust you um i don't think he's in any position to really fight back you're the hoh you're in charge tell him we're not doing that this is what i want to happen and drew has no no choice but to fall in line but by just pulling the wool over his eyes and making him look silly while he's sitting there

[01:10:09] hoping for his bestie in the house his number one ally in the house to choose him for this it looks like dang am i the target are you coming after me because you didn't have any reason to lie to me right and so for drew to be upset like that it's like yeah barrett look at what happened the first time you got power so it's hard for you for me to sit around and watch people be so salty when they uh when they when they get blindsided and stuff like that but then go and blindside people and say things like oh the icons are being such brats there nobody else acting like this what are you talking about

[01:10:38] this is a faps mo since week one salty complaining whining crying yelling screaming in the diary room it happens because when you have power you have to make hard decisions and barrett's hard decisions weren't the cleanest decisions no no now moving on to yash he did more of this sort of thing than barrett in part because as we discussed in the first rule he was learning on the go which meant

[01:11:07] sometimes he went too far uh it's kind of like when you learn to drive a car you know having taught two kids how to drive okay you need to yeah yeah you know you need to you know you need to hit the brake but sometimes you hit it too hard and all of a sudden everybody in the car is jerked forwards you know so you need to learn where you know where that middle ground is way back on day six uh taylor

[01:11:33] talked to melody about yash over scheming and suggesting that melody lyric and mallory could be nominated as a trio so like you know taylor then wasn't real fond of the way yash was was acting uh that settled down once he entered his quiet phase but then of course we got the

[01:11:58] situation which we just talked about him flipping to save d and doing so without telling drew and melody for no reason leaving them hanging and not feeling good about him and taylor it's very reminiscent of when the icons flipped on fog and voted out lyric and saved melody without telling them again there was

[01:12:23] no reason now it worked out okay for them in that situation but many people noted at the time there was no reason not to tell chogbu chogbu would have been on board with it they would have been fine with it melody and drew would have been on board with this vote to get rid of angela melody even suggested it at one point but no they decided to do it in secret surprise them and therefore make themselves

[01:12:49] untrustworthy when they could have had multiple options instead and you know that's one of the it's especially bad when you realize one of the key reasons barrett jumped to the side of yash and taylor and against the icons was also when the icons made an alliance with mallory and then turned on her

[01:13:13] immediately that's the same thing yash and taylor did to him and so melody knew she could not trust them when it came time to make her replacement nomination in the double eviction there's no way she could trust them by putting her number one ally on the block yeah um it's it's so it's so bad it's really it's so bad because you don't have to blindside people in big brother you don't you do not have to blindside

[01:13:42] people um they choose to it's fun tv we love it but there's no immunity idol that this person can use if they you know if they fight they sniff out that it's going to be them don't get me wrong they can they can definitely um you know go and campaign and stuff like that but your allies the people you're working with you don't have to blindside those people they don't have to be on the wrong side of a vote for you to still be targeting them in the future or for you to still still want them out the

[01:14:09] game but the i think the icons said like really set a precedent for bad gameplay um and made it and normalized it because the icons were doing this stuff on purpose the icons would see the right the right path okay yeah this is what we're going to do but wouldn't it be fun if we just blindsided them and then left our allies out and just did it because we could and we know they did that because they talked about it you know it's not like we speculate that the icons were just doing this for the laws

[01:14:34] we heard d and devins not in confession not in the diary room but in the house to be like i'm bored don't you wouldn't it be cool wouldn't it be funny if we did this they were doing this stuff for the laws and it worked out for them but it's not going to work out for everybody it's actually going to be the the detriment of most people and uh yosh is going to feel that because him and taylor did not have to blindside these people if you plan on working with them in the future you should let them know because that's how you build allies and that's how you win

[01:15:03] friends and influence people as they say um you isolate people and piss them off by not telling them these things and uh they made a calculated uh a calculated effort to not tell these people they did that on purpose now what do you plan on gaming for that who knows i don't know what i to this day don't know why you didn't tell those right but those are the choices that yash made yeah and of course another choice yash made was continuing to lie about the bribe uh which he did for essentially

[01:15:31] no reason he he had to go out of his way to create these like elaborate reasons for his nominations rather than just saying yeah d was telling the truth you know i'm sorry i didn't tell you sooner but i didn't feel like i could he he had to tell barrett that his handshake deal with devins was so important that he couldn't possibly go against it it was transparent and again it meant the others couldn't

[01:15:59] trust him yeah when he first gets the when the bribe is first being basically used against him like i get why you would lie because you don't want people to think i am not valuable to you because i cannot target the icons the icons are literally banking on well we're gonna keep them around because you know he can't target us and so uh like i know why you wouldn't say it then but then once you win power and you know you're about to start at that point you have to say all right i said i said what i said because i thought y'all were gonna vote me out if i didn't now i'm in control and let me

[01:16:29] tell you i have no choice but to put them they are not wrong they did not lie i'm so happy angela's gone uh you know like i'm still with you but i have no choice but to do this right and then once we get through this round come back to me please i don't want them in the game they strong arm me i would have gone home if i didn't take the bribe it's not like he had a lot of options they were they're like take the bribe or you're going on the block and then your only hope at that point is to either

[01:16:57] politic your way off um or to um or to actually win the blockbuster which he doesn't have an awful shot at but it's not great if you can keep yourself off the block you want to stay off the block and so i think that yeah if yash comes in from a place of all right look here's what it is i need you in the game i want to work with you in the game here's what we have to do we got to get rid of some of this dead weight we don't have a choice somebody's got to go but after that it's me and you against them and just come from a trustworthy uh standpoint instead

[01:17:27] of lying so much to where barrett doesn't even know like he's like man maybe the icons are right maybe y'all suck you know maybe maybe you are the problem right maybe because angela's yelling like they got passionate about the idea that he was lying so the lying became such like the narrative in the house right it was less about the bribe and like more about well i keep telling you you're gonna you're gonna regret this he's lying to you he's lying to you uh yeah yash if you came to him first and said like look i had to lie because i needed to survive the round i needed to make sure

[01:17:55] i was not going up but now that i've told you that let's start to make some moves and then we could we can start to move forward together and he just he didn't capitalize on that he was he he'd already talked about how doubling down on the lie was his strategy you know if you could lie or go home then lie every time i think he he didn't realize you don't have to lie all the time right yeah yeah um i i i agree with you that he should have told them hey i had to take the bribe i had no choice

[01:18:23] otherwise i was going up i don't agree that that wasn't the actual fact and i'll talk about that later rule here i do think he had more wiggle room when d proposed the bribe i guess i'll talk about that later for now we can go to the third rule which talks about the need to be flexible and uh we've talked about various aspects of barrett's game but how do you think he did in this rule

[01:18:50] i can't really knock barrett about being flexible i think that he worked with a lot of different people in the house i think he was in a ton of uh you know alliances that did really well in the game but he also was willing to leave those alliances when it suited him uh we saw that he was going after drew at points even though he was really aligned with drew we saw that he was going after devons at points even though he was aligned with devons and then when it came time to flip on the uh the icons who he had been so uh close to throughout the game he was willing to flip on them

[01:19:16] as well um there are definitely points where i think he could have been more flexible for sure um you know his idea that oh i'm going to um stay with the icons i'm going to play the middle it's like yeah that's cool but when it's time for you to win hoh you need to win hoh right you can't be so rigid in your strategy to where you're throwing hoh leaving yourself and your allies vulnerable and then losing mallory in a critical position where you could have had her in the jury

[01:19:39] um you know mallory being the jury alongside uh melody and drew barrett that's three votes locked in immediately right if you could make it to the end you got three that you know as long as you got nothing goes awry you got three votes locked in uh you know a little flexibility and making sure that mallory was one of the people who made it to the jury in that moment by winning hoh it definitely could have given you uh a lot more life in the game you have another shooter on your on

[01:20:06] your side to win hoh um and so you know we're going to go back to that moment a lot because it's definitely a like a crucial moment in the game right it was it was a turning point for so many people's games it really allowed the icons to grasp control one more time as they went into jury a spot that most people would say they shouldn't even be in but there's also a point where barrett loses one of his key numbers and ends up in a position where he knows he can't trust the icons he has flip blah blah blah and so i'll give him credit for flexibility but you know he could have done more

[01:20:35] yeah yeah and i think the type of flexibility he had like you know like we've talked about they you know he was in multiple alliances and yes a lot of them overlapped but some didn't you know he had the crossovers he also had fap as a side gig though of course the problems really started when he helped bring fap in as part of the mosh pit but that goes back to what you were saying uh still

[01:20:59] having those sub alliances and multiple potential final four three or two allies was the proper way to do things the problem was he tried to change horses midstream after getting fed up with the icons but like he he didn't have a life vest he didn't he he was jumping from one horse to the other but decided mid-leap like no do i really want to land on that horse do i really have the energy to land on

[01:21:29] that horse or maybe i should just you know land in the river and see where it takes me yeah he i i you know we can knock a lot of people for flexibility i don't think barrett if we had to rank all of his his flaws in the game i don't think flexibility is one of his big one of the big ones okay well you said we can knock a lot of people are you going to knock yash for this rule absolutely uh yeah i i think that uh for yash i think yash again i think he kind of

[01:21:55] we talked about these people's ego so much this season but they really did become a lot of like just believing your own hype so much to where what you thought was going to happen was going to happen and you weren't going to do a lot of work to make sure it happened you know it was like these conversations where you're talking about well we got to get the icons together there's so many times where yash was in a room with four or five people saying well you know the icons are going next you know the icons are going next it's like that is not great you know um we saw when taylor and lala were in that situation where taylor goes and gets in the shower because she's like some people in here

[01:22:22] can't be trusted you know you cannot just assume all these people want to get the icons out um we saw when yash won hoh he's like a woman is going home why because i want that to happen you know it's like right well people are pitching other ideas you know are you sure do you want to do this do you want to do that nope i want a woman going home a woman's going home there's nothing you can tell me and on the one hand i give him credit for not being easily swayed on the other hand his hoh ends up getting hijacked and kamu goes home and so it's like maybe if you were a little bit more

[01:22:49] flexible that wouldn't have happened on your hoh you know maybe that could have been something you could have avoided um so i think that yeah i think and then of course toward the end when um yash is in this pressure cooker and he's up against drew i think in the retelling of this when uh i was listening to terran talk about the pressure cooker uh he was talking about how yash was sick and yash had been there for 12 hours and drew was getting on his nerve and drew was gaining momentum

[01:23:15] and yash was failing okay cool yash probably was gonna lose anyway i don't mind him making a deal here it's not the worst thing that could happen but then you go to yash in the in the diary room and yash is like i threw it i could have won i was going to win i could have done this all night i could have done this all night he would have never beat me i only the only reason he even got that that key is because i let him have it like wait a minute hold on yash you what you threw the competition you could have because like who am i gonna believe right what i saw what you're saying

[01:23:44] right because if i because i thought i was giving you the benefit of the doubt but if you want to take that away from me to prove that you had like some type of grasp on the game and okay let's go off of what you're saying yash you threw the hoh i mean you threw the veto competition in a crucial spot um where you have your biggest ops dead to rights according to you i could do this all night right uh you have them dead to rights all you have to do is win you and you're you're in the final two you've been there you said i i threw this challenge that's what the hell is that

[01:24:14] so yeah i have to knock him uh because he said it if he didn't say it i'd be like all right whatever but if you want to own that you threw the hl the the veto competition to drew your biggest op only to go home shortly after that's on you yeah i feel the same way that you do normally almost all the time i will take what they say in the diary room is the truth in this case i think he was glazing himself

[01:24:41] uh i i think that he didn't want to admit that drew could have beaten him i think that he i think that they didn't want him to talk about being sick because they almost totally ignored the fact that this illness had spread through the house which doesn't speak well of you know their policies in terms of how did you allow a bug to get into that house and spread through and possibly impact the

[01:25:07] game so i think that you know there was some of that going on but either way like you said he said it okay then show it prove it prove that you you could have done that or else we are going to knock you for it like you said um now another place that he did not have flexibility goes back to what i was just saying in the second rule that we would get to which is the bribe because he got pinned by it

[01:25:34] uh he told mike bloom the bb bribe kind of neutralized me it felt like i was a lion in a cage i was going into these competitions knowing it wasn't in my best interest to win so it made it difficult to play the game at times because i couldn't just do what i wanted to do there was literally decisions that were made for me as a result of the bribe so it made my game more complicated than it needed to be and yeah he's right but again this is where i come back to it was his decision

[01:26:01] yes d put a lot of pressure on him d threatened him but she couldn't actually force him to do it and he could have tried to like at least negotiate it like from what we saw he didn't even try saying look not being able to nominate you three of you that's ridiculous how about just i give you safe

[01:26:27] can we do that and i think she would have gone for it this was her opening bid you know you never go with you never accept the opening bid yeah and and barrett noted something similar as he told dalton ross i think that taking that bribe he took it in a deal with all of the icons when he very much could have taken a path of going fully against the icons without needing that hoh week where he couldn't put them up he was the most likely to win hoh out of any of us at that

[01:26:56] point he's the best at the competitions so to full-on make a deal with three people that didn't have to honor it themselves and have this week where he had no option but to nominate the people that actually would have fought for him to go against the icons and continue that i think that was a huge mistake and i agree with barrett which week when did he get bribed do you remember

[01:27:20] who was uh who went on the block instead of him no i don't either he was he was the hoh oh is this the mallory boot might have been the mallory boot i think this is the mallory boot i think i think this is the mallory if i remember correctly and i and i might not because i don't i don't remember because it's been so long we've been talking about the bribe but um yash also although he took the bribe

[01:27:46] he could still win he could still win he doesn't he he chose to go with the idea that i'm going to throw because i cannot target the icons okay well what if you don't throw what if you just go ahead and win target somebody else and then boom now look the icons they're they're they're uh open and available for you to target you know um there are other strategies he could use with the bribe he went with i'm going to you know choose to throw it and that's the and because i can't until i can get to

[01:28:13] them i'm not going to win that's what he tried it didn't work uh but you know there is a there is another school of thought that would say okay well you can just win ensure your safety for another week target another person who's a threat to you who's not named the icons and then the next time you have a chance to put the icons up now you're not beholden to the bribe uh but a lot of people were like oh yeah he's throwing he's throwing he's throwing it yes but he doesn't have to he does not if the if the bribe

[01:28:43] was you will throw hoh if you know every round into the final five if i give you this bribe then fine you gotta he took it you gotta do it but that's not the nature of the bribe the bribe was you have to keep us safe uh if you are in power you you have to keep us safe right okay do that for one round do it week seven i mean week what week eight or whatever do it uh week nine um or right after week eight i guess because week eight was two parts right it was the medieval times and then you know

[01:29:13] whatever but then now week nine yeah you're looking at a different outcome right you can now target the hl you can now target the uh the people in the house uh you know or maybe you you just win and save yourself that round and then look week 10 you're available to target the uh the icons and oh look it's week 10 where you went home so you know there are other ways you know i i'm not saying i knocked the decision but it wasn't like it was set in stone that he had to go on and throw all these uh these

[01:29:39] challenges yeah yeah he could have been flexible before he got bribed he could have been flexible after he got bribed he didn't either yeah that's it yeah yeah all right well the fourth rule says players should not let their emotions control them we talked in the first rule about how barrett didn't do what he needed to to secure his moves against the icons when he was hoh and you even brought up at

[01:30:04] the time he you know he couldn't couldn't face the icons at that point so what would you say about you know this rule being at the root of that problem that's really where i'm gonna go you know i i think people were being kind to barrett when he when it happened they were saying oh his his social battery is low he's he's just drained i was like that is not what's happening here that's not i was like if pipe queen was in the house his social battery we'll be fine um i think his feelings are hurt and i don't mind the move against the icon even if it's out of spite i don't

[01:30:31] mind it they have to go at some point they have to go so i don't care but it is that okay i'm now sad because i have now made my friends upset and they are guilting me and angela's giving me the one tear and barrett had a stone-faced killer uh like mentality toward them at first like nope sorry it's gotta be one of you sorry it's gonna be one of you and that was cool for day one for day two but they three of them doing that they four of them do that d walking past you and not talking to you devin's giving you the disappointed dad looks angela crying every time she's in a room with it

[01:31:01] it started to take toll he started to feel empathy started to feel sympathy he started to feel guilt and those things did control how he handled that and then and then once they uh got past that week and he ended up back on the block he started to suck because he was sad because now he's looking at his game with uh like slipping away and people are still actively playing downstairs you know um

[01:31:25] d was blindsided you know bear put her up and d was mad she was mad she was sad she cried and d got to work the rest of that week and that's why she survived and barrett did not get to work no he did the opposite he he took a he took sick days you know he took mental health days uh yeah if if barrett had made this move against other people who he didn't have such a good

[01:31:51] relationship with i think he would have handled it better but when d and devins came down so hard on him telling him you'll regret this your whole life uh making things difficult for him to even socialize he just retreated into the hoh room because that was easier than dealing with it we discussed it a bit last week devins admitted to barrett this week that they made things uncomfortable for him on purpose as

[01:32:19] part of their game moves you have to give d and devins credit for that it worked you may not like it you may you know there's a lot of people saying oh i couldn't stand the way they acted uh when when they were uh nominated they'd been in power so long and they just acted like babies well part of it was that part of it was they over exaggerated their reactions to pressure him and it worked he hid away

[01:32:48] that allowed them to have plenty of time to work on yash and taylor with d of course succeeding and then we further already talked about how he didn't even do much lobbying for himself this week especially early in the week when he could have i think that's all related also man d and devins are really good at this almost like they played these games before you know i don't weird yeah it's weird i mean

[01:33:14] d d has never like had a good relationship with a guy and taken him to the end and then you know uh you know tossed him aside at say the the final jury or anything like that right she's never never had that never lied to anybody never manipulated anybody not be not deep not devins neither none of these people have done these things it's just yeah yeah yeah crazy how it works now now i do think

[01:33:39] barrett fully understands this is a game he's indicated they'll all be friends when it's done so that part is good but within the game itself he had these issues he's into deep he was into deep his feelings was his feelings were wrapped up in these people and it's and it's it's normal okay it is normal to feel an emotional connection to people in the big brother house but the winners the people who are good at big brother are able to separate those things and say okay that is a normal emotion

[01:34:05] but i need to make a different move despite that or i need to make sure my game includes those emotions in them right and so for barrett him his game being uh contingent by design on i am going to backstab my allies and flip on them when it's opportune that's a calculated choice that he made he said i would always intended on getting in good with them which is good and turning on them which is good

[01:34:33] but when it came down to do it he didn't he didn't have the you know he didn't have to follow through he did his heart wasn't in it right right so switching to yash how do you think he did with this rule um i don't think yash did great i think like yash is good at i think yash is good at um like compartmentalizing i think that yet there you're never going to catch you're never going to get them slipping right you're never going to get yash uh like riled up you know we see angela coming

[01:35:01] at us where are your brother yash not going there with you you know they they've tried they try these different tactics yash is really good and like nope this is what i'm going to do this how i feel i'm not going to it's a game like that is yash to a t so i'll give him a ton of credit for that i do think that yash started to feel himself a little too much when he came to the the inner reactions the interactions he was having with his enemies his enemies they started to get under

[01:35:28] his skin he by this point in the game he hates drew i'm talking about hates drew to where it's so obvious that somebody like drew will not have a working relationship with you we are watching them make this this bri i mean this uh this deal at the pressure cooker and the whole time we're watching at home like there's no way this is real right this can't this can't be real right this can't is this real this is their way well maybe it is i mean i could see it like we're trying to reason why this will work but anytime you cut to yash you're like i hate this guy i hate this guy and then he

[01:35:57] started to let his guard down this week he started to really be like maybe drew ain't so bad they started to really he started drew started really working on him really working on him getting him to let his guard down and once he did that's where he got the axe and so yeah i think that yash really had he really had his his his sights set on drew specifically uh but it was a emotional connection it wasn't it wasn't like strategically i need drew out it was i dislike him i don't like him in the game i want him out i think he's a weasel i don't like the way he plays the game i

[01:36:27] don't like the way he moves like but yeah if you don't if you weren't so openly anti drew then maybe you would use that connection that to move the game for it drew knows that you throw this challenge to him like he's he's going to get you to throw this challenge because he's gonna lie he's gonna cheat he's gonna steal to get you to do it and then even though it's a hard decision he doesn't mind cutting you because y'all really weren't that close y'all weren't that cool because

[01:36:50] you never really liked him and he knows it yeah and i mean now the one thing about yash i will say is despite not liking drew in the game you know he couldn't stand the way he played outside he's like yeah we'll get along and uh you know similarly within the game they they broke down sometimes until the end there he stayed on target with him and that was why i like you said gave him credit

[01:37:20] and said well he was clearly feeling it and knew he was going to lose which is why he made this deal until he said something different in in the diary room categorically not that right right and he even had a diary room confessional looking back on the veto where he talked about their discussions and said i know not to make an emotional decision about something that could be strategic

[01:37:44] which is a little confusing in the end it's like okay then did you think accepting this deal was strategic i i i don't know it's confusing to me at this point when he says these contradictory things mm-hmm yeah yasha's got i think in yasha's mind he needed more allies to win these people telling him i want to win with you it's that uh the argument that we hear so much i want to go to the best with

[01:38:10] the end you know it should be us we should just run this thing should we just win all the challenges and just sit next to each other and let's just let this let's just bro down to the end like what are these other people going to do to stop us i think that's exactly what you say to somebody like yash yeah yeah exactly all right the fifth rule tells players they need to pretend to be nice and play the social game i think when it came to both barrett and yash i would say their social games were a huge

[01:38:35] part of their success to this point barrett even told julie my bread and butter was making friends uh you know he went around snuggling up to so many different people his nickname on blue sky was horrid you know in an august 11th camera talk he said if the house views me as someone who is nice cuddly smells good or whatever that's nice i'll take that and i'll run with that as long as i can

[01:39:02] and he did even when the icons started worrying about trusting him they still never really put him in the same category as drew because drew always seemed so sketchy while barrett was this big lovable huggable guy yeah when he won hoh everybody was happy i was like oh yeah we're good we're good with barrett we're good with barrett because i like he likes me i like him we're friends we're good we got a good relationship he wouldn't put me up he has other he has bigger fish to fry he has other

[01:39:31] things to do and so you know it was great i think he did a good job i can't think of anybody who said like any i mean don't get me wrong the icon said some pretty scathing things about him in the end but i think that throughout the game nobody could say they actively disliked barrett in the house yeah now i do think yash was in a similar though not as good position uh though with a lot less hugging what are your thoughts on his social game a similar like you said uh he didn't have those

[01:40:00] connections like with melody and mallory at first or whatever but they didn't hate him you know there were definitely moments where you know they they were annoyed at each other because they weren't on the same page um relationship wise as far as like you know in the game but again no one's sitting here like you know i'll never vote for yash in the end you know even even angela when she says it she's saying it because she doesn't like the idea that he is lying and getting her out but she also says like i changed my mind you know like it'll be fine you know so yeah i think yash does

[01:40:26] a really good job of being somebody that you could just talk to and that they could come to and really vibe with uh he seems like a fun dude to hang out with even though he was anti devins him and devins had a good relationship even though he's anti drew drew like i said toward the end starts to feel that okay yash hates me and it became obvious but he did keep it under wraps for a while um you know he might even feel like that for the entire game but there was like i said you rarely could go catch

[01:40:52] yash slipping and put him in a situation where he would show you emotionally uh what he what he thinks about you um he's not going to get you're not going to get him off off of off balance like that a lot and so that really allowed him to make those connections with everybody yeah yeah i agree i i think he got along well with pretty much everyone it's not like people wanted him out because they were mad at him or anything like that there were other reasons which takes us to the sixth rule because

[01:41:18] it says not to be too much of a threat and this is a biggie so i'm gonna flip the order here and start with yash uh he was seen as a threat almost from the start in in the first week barrett talked about possibly targeting him chuck said similar things uh etc but then probably because yash realized it

[01:41:42] he decided to lie low when it came to comps suddenly people weren't so worried about him anymore and that lasted for a while until he decided it was time to come to the surface again and then as terran noted for a while he won every comp that he actually wanted to win which was great for him except it made it so clear that he was the biggest comp threat in the game

[01:42:07] which multiple people talked about they even saw that just before the renomination and vote he came a close second in the veto while as d said she had like two pieces of that puzzle at that point and most importantly melody knew that he was a big threat as she told taylor right after the vote that she was thinking of doing that even before she won because she had lost she had barely lost several

[01:42:35] comps to yash and as i noted he was the strongest comp threat plus there was then a scene of her on bb unlocked right after the vote saying she felt yash would have run away with the game if he hadn't gone out and sure she probably would have preferred to take out an icon but in many ways yash was a bigger threat yeah uh what are you gonna do you you start winning these challenges people are gonna look at you

[01:43:03] and yash had been winning the challenges since week one i believe he think he wins the blockbuster right and so he wins he wins the blockbuster he comes really close in a bunch of competition i think he wins the veto the very next week uh no no that's devins who wins the veto next week but he comes really close to winning the wall competition uh as well um you know he's he we know that there are challenges that he could win that he's throwing or whatever he wins the veto week six he wins the

[01:43:27] hoh week six as well um he will go on to like throw himself in against thawg to take her out of the game at some point because he's that confident in his abilities to win the game right uh you know it just it becomes one thing after another he ends up winning the veto in week eight right after the thawg thing uh he goes and wins the veto there then he wins the veto again week nine it's like yeah if he's winning the veto we can't vote him out and right like i said at this point everybody

[01:43:55] in the game taylor included should be looking at yash's okay i can't beat this guy in a competition so he's going to be at the end and if i'm sitting next to him at the end can i beat him and if you have been winning hoh and you have had power you've got to backstab people you've had to lie to people uh and so those people can hold that against you there's not a lot that you can hold against yash to that point so i think that uh his threat level was too high uh the odds were in his favor

[01:44:19] uh and uh he was very confident in his own abilities to to keep going further right so um yeah to what's that six or seven challenges that he i think he won one two three four five yeah five or six challenges uh it's not easy to do in this and this uh season of big brother a lot like i think that there's not barely any like repeat hohs i think devon only has two and so uh yeah for yash to be in a situation where he has two and a blockbuster and uh the dog

[01:44:46] challenge and the veto and the veto and the veto it makes him a huge threat yeah and you know it wasn't i mean i mentioned of course melody being one of the people that saw him as a huge threat but the decision came down to drew and it's funny because even though barrett was already gone barrett may have had an out an impact on the outcome because he had told drew earlier in the week that the double eviction would be the perfect time to take out yash because they knew he couldn't play

[01:45:16] for hoh there would be no blockbuster so there was one comp and if if someone could just beat him in the veto he was available to take out uh barrett compared it to taking out michael just beat him in one thing and send him packing and that is what happened now don't get me wrong d is obviously a huge threat herself and she may go on to win people may go back to this and say this is why they drew should

[01:45:45] have voted out d instead but i this was the choice that was presented melody was not going to put drew on the block as we discussed earlier she could have put taylor up but then there's no guarantee of getting a strong competitor because drew might have flipped and taken out taylor who is certainly no

[01:46:10] fan of taylor we know this uh melody forced a situation where one of the top three comp people in the house was going period and yash had other factors that could play in his favor if he made it to the end such as the things we've talked about here including his social game plus there may be some thought that the jury will be less likely to vote for an icon to win especially an icon that already

[01:46:39] won a million dollars yeah i don't really know what he could have done at this point to to make his threat level any lower because it's too late i think at this point it was too late you should be downplaying your threat level uh though a lot of times right like if you realize i'm not going to win the wall cop and not to say that he realized it but if you think you're not going to win hey let me drop kamu kamu got it you know i'm saying lala wins it cool bet that's fine but do i need to look like i was the other option to win that maybe not you know um i think that him throwing himself in

[01:47:07] against thog that is a declaration of war you notice me saying i got i got it i'm gonna take her out to save my allies and it was a calculated risk that he and he and he really excelled in that but if i'm if i'm anybody else i'm like dang yash did that on purpose he did that because he knew he could beat her hayley's a d1 athlete you know it's not like she's a slouch in challenges in general she's got beaten like five of them in a row that day um but uh but yeah i think that um aside from

[01:47:34] the challenge uh prowess which obviously to me makes him the biggest threat it's like yeah you can let somebody who wins a lot of challenges make it to the end but you have to neutralize the other things that they have in their in their disposal and he had too many friends that were going to be on the jury by the end right right now as for barrett i don't consider him to be nearly the threat that yash was however he was a threat specifically to the icons as he'd already gone after them and succeeded

[01:47:58] in at least getting rid of angela plus he was up against taylor at the end and they've all talked for a while now if you're against taylor you're going home and this one has continued to work unlike some of the others because they just don't consider her to be a threat basically at all i i've mentioned before that sometimes this rule comes down to a comparison barrett versus taylor you know a barrett is obviously going out yeah and this goes to credit to the people who say that oh okay barrett

[01:48:28] made his move too too early if you if you do believe that that train of thought you'll say okay well yeah barrett put a target on his back by targeting his allies he targeted the icons and they have every right to feel some type of way and target him back it's just how the game is played even if he didn't target them they could have came after him but at that point he made himself a noticeable threat to them um you know the the move comes with a downside a lot of the moves in big brother come with a downside right it's how you mitigate that later on is that how you continue in the game and so when he

[01:48:56] says i'm going to take this shot at the ally at the icons my allies he should know okay at that point they're going to feel the type of way and i gotta fix it i gotta be on damage control but i gotta make the move or i gotta have the shooters that are going to make the move right after like we can't allow them to get power it had to happen but because of that he made himself enemy number one for those people and when they had the chance to strike they did and they definitely should have they were justified

[01:49:22] in doing that because he at that point had taken the shot that a lot of people hadn't taken barrett had done the thing that people were scared to do the thing that people said they were going to do but they threw the challenge that they tried to do but the dpov was there barrett had actually succeeded in putting the icons on the block and for that a lot of people should have been looking at him as a threat at that point yeah and again it comes back to if he had been out of the hoh room talking to

[01:49:46] yash and taylor rather than hiding up there i mean we know that yash was restricted in who he could nominate fine but if yash votes out d this is the whole butterfly effect again then maybe he decides not to win this hoh because he doesn't need to you know one icon is gone he doesn't have to do that

[01:50:11] and therefore maybe one of barrett's allies you know i mean yash could have still been an ally at that point again this is why i'm saying it changes everything at that point that butterfly effect because different decisions could have been made yeah tough yeah all right well the seventh rule says to trust almost nobody for a long time barrett mostly trusted the icons especially d even when he

[01:50:36] had some doubts at least you know they still kept him feeling warm and fuzzy um until they did mallory being evicted was the straw that broke the camel's back and after that he realized he could never trust them again and he acted on it i'm not sure you know once that happened that he ever trusted anyone again to that level so you know this outcome was not necessarily a surprise to him no no but he did

[01:51:05] trust people right and you you gotta trust somebody uh but he trusted he trusted a lot of people you know barrett trusted the icons he trusted drew which you know so people would say maybe you shouldn't have trusted drew so much drew was actually pretty bad for his game and at different points uh and then of course he tried he trusted that um but you know trusting the icons means you have to trust all the icons right but he trusted the icons not just d he chose the devins who was actively working against

[01:51:31] him at points uh not all the time but sometimes and then he trusted angela who is not somebody who you can put a lot of trust in angela famously outed the idea that uh drew and barrett were working with the icons she sat there in front of fap and said yeah y'all already know we've been working against them for you know we are everybody knows he's like no they didn't know they did not know but now they know that barrett has been lying to them right that's when that's when they are

[01:51:59] uh keyed in on this we saw mallory talking about we saw uh melody talking about like hey they caught that um so you know he trusted people they might not have like maybe shouldn't have trusted as much um especially especially angela yeah now yash definitely trusted people uh at this stage of the game who he should not have um we talked about earlier how he said in an interview that he felt pretty good going

[01:52:25] into the double eviction because he thought he had deals that people would stick to but again the fact is none literally none of those people plan to stick with it yeah he said some things on the live feeds about well i i won't nominate him if i win hoh but i'd vote against him if someone else did frankly if she had won hoh i think she'd have thrown that aside i think she'd have looked at it

[01:52:50] and been like yeah maybe i said that but i didn't really mean it uh because there's no way she was going to have the opportunity to get rid of him and not take it and obviously devins was never going to say vote to save him over d when it came to drew really trusting drew you should have known better yeah and i will always come back to you told us you threw that that challenge to drew you told us

[01:53:18] that you said it i'm not gonna tell you i why would i believe me over you you said it you said it so yeah it's insane for you to do that to one of your biggest ops in the house if even if if y'all start him and drew could get on the same page you also have to know that drew's probably one of if not the biggest threat to you winning the rest of these competitions you know devins is also not not a bad shout for that that role but you have the opportunity to make sure that you're still here

[01:53:48] and you were willing to throw the challenge uh yeah you definitely trusted somebody too much if you were willing to throw the challenge um and then with the melody thing you know like oh i don't think she knew what she was doing by putting me on the block no you're you're again you're trusting that when she tells you that she's with you that she's telling the truth she is not telling the truth she's not going to like like save you at the detriment of drew that's not a thing you know so

[01:54:13] yeah she has you actually believing that she's she she's making a move but she doesn't you know she's just making it by mistake she doesn't get it if she understood she wouldn't do this but she understands she has you thinking that she doesn't understand because you trust her too much yeah yeah all right we can go to appendix a which is about the jury phase of the game and deals with how players were doing and preparing to possibly at the end as well as whether the other remaining

[01:54:39] players did what they needed to to get barrett and yash on their side and how that will impact the jury now barrett clearly had the end game in mind we we talked earlier about him knowing he couldn't just be dragged to the end as an icon lapdog especially after what they did to mallory which led to him making his move he knew it might lead to getting evicted a week or two sooner than he otherwise would have

[01:55:03] been but it was also his only path to the end for a win so he went for it yeah um you gotta you gotta keep the end game in mind uh you know and then he had a he knew what he wanted right he tells it like drew is the person drew is my goat i just gotta get there with drew at some point he realized drew is burning so many bridges that if i sit next to him i'm going to look like amazing right he might even

[01:55:26] get melody's vote uh instead of instead of drew that's great um my issues with with barrett are that like i think everybody kind of knows this as well um you know like they know that melody and drew are probably locking votes for barrett um so if i'm weighing my options against barrett i'm thinking okay well he got two does he get the icons do i get the icons over him you know i think for uh barrett because he was so such good friends with people it makes it makes his jury prospects make him even

[01:55:54] more threatening and then when he gets out of the game he's talking about you know the way he still feels about these people and to that i have some questions uh uh david i think for me like he did his little uh like his um one word association thing that he does i think with one of the interviews and with d he said like runner up is what he thought about yeah yeah and i thought it was funny i thought it was hilarious um but i also don't put a lot of stock into people what people say in that i know

[01:56:23] i just said like yeah i said that he threw that challenge and i gotta believe him but we've seen so many times where people will say these things right after they come out the house and then they will vote completely differently in the end oh yeah i mean yeah angela angela went to the jury in 26 and even at the round table she was no way she was voting for chelsea no way she was voting for chelsea and who did she vote for chelsea right exactly and so i don't put a lot of stock into

[01:56:50] that i think that they you know people people's emotions are high in that moment and you're feeling the type of way and then we see them backtrack again now again with with yash that's different because yash has no reason to a lot of us he has no reason to a lot of us like he has he has no reason you why are you telling us that you threw that challenge that is crazy um but for barrett yeah he comes out he's a little salty but i don't think barrett's uh you know automatically not going to vote for somebody like d or thinks that she's uh playing a losing game i think that uh barrett had

[01:57:19] worked himself into so many strategic relationships that i think game recognizes game and he'll he'll see that the player that makes it to the end that played the strongest game in his opinion he'll vote for yeah yeah i mean i could see barrett voting for drew despite everything they've gone through if he's against taylor maybe even against an icon that seems a little less likely but i i'm not sure um uh you know the part that you said about calling d runner up that does not bode well

[01:57:46] uh for that aspect of things um but against melody it could be a toss-up because i think he would know drew deserves it more as a game player but less as well a person um so yeah yeah i i you know it just depends on the mix of things that happens there now when we turn to yash

[01:58:13] um unless sorry unless you have any other thoughts about barrett you know how he might be voting at the end there no okay um yash i i i don't know that he was actively thinking about getting jury votes at the end i think you you said it earlier in the podcast he didn't have a specific planned at the end just survive in advance survive in advance so i think he just much like other parts of his game

[01:58:36] he was winging it a bit and so it's it's a bit difficult to say for him i i feel like he just kind of felt if he could get there it would all turn out well for him it goes back to that ego thing so what did you think about him and in terms of you know the preparing for the end game there well the wildest part about that is i kind of agree with him i agree that if he makes it to the end it doesn't really matter you know like i think that winning your way to the end is one of those

[01:59:03] surefire ways of getting to the end without pissing a lot of people off um you know because it's kind of like they never had a chance to get you out you didn't have to lie too much because you you had to eliminate all of them anyway and you were the biggest threat so it didn't really matter uh in the long run so for me i kind of agree with him there but i really do wish he had taken into consideration a lot more like getting to that point right um i just didn't see a lot of uh like a lot of just like attention to what the jury would look like from yash like obviously after the

[01:59:32] jury he comes in with lala and taylor in his back pocket that's two votes great right where the rest of the votes coming from you know i just like i'm sorry before you win all these challenges and you're the big threat whatever but just like on a strategic or personal relationship in the game who are the people that you're going to sit next to when you think you can be do you think you have a better relationship with these people than devins no do you have a relationship with the better people than d probably not uh because you got devins and angela that she has a relationship

[01:59:57] with she has uh she has barrett she has drew uh you know like do you have a better relationship with drew there i mean then drew does no i don't think he had relationships with those people to the point where we got to the dream phase once that happens i think he does a lot of work i think that he's immune and so he can make those relationships he doesn't have to sell people a dream because he's on the block he doesn't have to uh you know give anybody uh his uh loyalty uh you know or anything like that he doesn't have to make any promises he can

[02:00:26] just go in and talk to people and really like try to work them over and i thought he did a good job at that but i think going into the jury phase i think yash could have really had a lot more attention to who he was keeping around but he also didn't have a lot of control and who he was keeping around either right yeah i also think there's something to be said for the fact that we see this so often whether in survivor or big brother if you are repeatedly saying we have to get this person out or they're going to win we have to get this person out or they're going to win if you don't end up

[02:00:55] getting them out it's hard for you to then turn around and say well i'm not going to vote for them to win yeah you you are you mind you create the threat right the threat is that the jury will vote for this person you're the jury so while you say right if they get to the end you're you're saying as the jury i'm picking that person as the person most likely to get the votes so yeah if they get to the end you've already decided that that person the most likely the person to get the vote there's

[02:01:22] a way that you can definitely neutralize that we've seen it before where you're like that person's winning but it don't matter that person's winning but competition aren't everything that person's winning but we weren't targeting them anyway we saw that with zander and survivor 41 he he can have everything in the world and they were still not voting for him why because they don't look at him like that and that's okay vince won a ton of challenges last season and it didn't matter because he had pissed off so many people they weren't looking at vince as a person that if he got to the end he was going to win in fact they were probably looking at him like as if he got to

[02:01:48] the end he's going to lose to whoever he was sitting by uh and so yeah the challenges in and of itself doesn't make you a threat the jury tells you who the threat is right right so um all right so then as far as yosh voting in the end uh because he is now on the jury i think he would vote for taylor above all the others um and then i'm not really sure would he vote for d or devins because he values

[02:02:18] comp wins so much and they have been doing well on those i i suspect that is a good possibility especially for anyone who's against drew whose game he clearly does not respect and i think he believes well we talked about this melody made a mistake in putting him on the block so i i don't see him voting for her either unless maybe she's against true again maybe does he vote

[02:02:44] at that i mean if you somehow get a a droolity uh or a mellow drew uh final two does he vote for the person whose game he hated or the person who he felt was so clueless that she didn't even play it again i don't know yeah it's tough and with the jury votes uh it always to me it's like to count somebody out that they couldn't win you're not taking into consideration who they're

[02:03:09] sitting next to you know you have to really look at okay well okay let's say that person can't win um can he just not win against this person can you not win against all the people right and so for melody right now yeah i'd be hard-pressed to see her really getting yasha's vote but if the narrative of the season becomes yasha's a scumbag yasha's a scumbag we can't reward that behavior they come into that yasha's one of the first ones who's going to come into the jury and be like that guy sucked

[02:03:36] and then the next person who comes to the jury if it's at drew's hands then that guy sucked right you know like it could be a thing that we're like well at least melody doesn't suck you know or let's stick it to drew we don't like him you know we've seen bitter juries before uh do i think yash would be bitter possibly actually um i've never he talked so bad about drew in that house you know he's talking about about drew his brother talking about about drew outside the house you know i could

[02:04:02] definitely see a world where yasha's like i just we just are not i can't support you as a person you know and so yeah i i don't know who we can uh in certain situations i don't know who we can uh you know attribute yasha's vote to in the future yeah yeah taylor lock and you got it yeah like i think i think he might vote for d over devins you know i know he likes uh competitions obviously but i think that he respects the idea that she was able to dodge these bullets when he wasn't and so uh yeah

[02:04:30] i i don't know yeah yeah all right well it is finally about time to wrap things up so what are your final thoughts about barrett and yash i thought they played strong games i thought in different ways in different ways uh i think that i prefer the barrett game which is you know make these alliances make you know make strategic moves try to keep your allies around make everybody happy and then try to win at the end being the most likable option left i do appreciate that but i do think that you

[02:05:00] know obviously barrett had some deficits in his game uh i do i am i love when a super fan can come in and really get to live their dream and have a good time doing it and so i'm very happy for him uh but you know the mistakes were made and he was punished for those mistakes uh i don't necessarily agree with all the mistakes that he made or you know or disagree you know with everything he did you know so i you know i'm kind of on the fence on some of these decisions but ultimately you know i think for him this was a good showing for sure um you gotta but you gotta win when you need to win

[02:05:30] right and uh he was up against yash who was able to win a lot uh or at least be you know perceived as somebody who can win uh like i said uh what's that uh two hohs a blockbuster three vetoes and uh the medieval challenge the man is a winning machine exactly he had it all and because of that you know i'm like okay cool i i have been warming up to the competition threats a lot more in these

[02:05:55] most recent seasons because it's it's such it's just so important in the game to be able to do the competition and so i can't knock you for just being good at those things um and also being somebody who started off not really knowing what the hell he was doing um i'm very proud of him as well um but definitely some like if we ever saw them play again i think they would both do well but they gotta learn from the mistakes that they made because they definitely made some yeah yeah so you're you talked about all those mistakes and a couple weeks ago mallory paid for her mistake of throwing an

[02:06:25] hoh comp she could have and should have won this week we saw two similar situations merit paid for his mistake just not the one that too many people are saying he made uh that it was the wrong move or done too early no his mistake was as we discussed not locking down the votes to get d out after making his nominations that left him in a bad situation with very few allies and then in the double eviction

[02:06:50] it was time for yash to pay for his mistake of saving d the circles are now complete uh they that doesn't always happen but i like it when it does because i hope future players will learn some lessons as long as they're the correct ones but that doesn't fully explain why as i said for yash it's possible that even if he had made the right decision and voted out d still things might have ended at the same

[02:07:19] point for him we have no way we could say for sure for sure because of the butterfly effect what we can say is that even though he thought he'd go home if he was sitting up against angela but d would go home if she was against him well that was clearly not the case he had managed to make himself even more of a threat than d in the eyes of the important few and the allies that he thought he had evaporated as if

[02:07:47] they'd never been there to begin with which really they hadn't been because those agreements were never intended to be honored they weren't ironclad like the bribe that bound and restricted him he just didn't realize it because although he improved quite a bit throughout the game strategizing and understanding his position relative to others still was not his best quality he was well liked but that was also a strike against him as a threat for the end game

[02:08:14] so when melody couldn't ensure getting out an icon he was next on the list and he was first on the list for swing vote drew barrett was less of a direct threat from a comp standpoint but more of one in terms of having made it clear what his intentions were and he certainly understood game strategy better but he had gotten himself into a sticky situation with very few allies again not because

[02:08:39] he made the move when he did but because he didn't follow up to ensure the move went the way he wanted and he held on to the allies that he thought he had in yash and taylor the deal they made with the icons really helped doom both players who were evicted this week because it pulled yash away from barrett but then yash didn't actually get the benefit of it when he needed it barrett made the decision to try

[02:09:05] to win the game knowing it might not go his way and it didn't in large part because the game isn't just about one decision but the culmination of all your actions and he didn't keep at it for yash it also wasn't just a single decision though accepting the bribe certainly played a big role in limiting what he could do it was his full body of work from his comp wins to unnecessarily flipping on an alliance

[02:09:33] and and all of that told people they couldn't keep him even up against a former survivor winner and that is why barrett and yash lost thanks um yes look yeah there are worse ways to lose the game i think for both of them yeah you know and so i i don't hate it um like i said valiant effort for both of them but you know mistakes right

[02:10:00] yes all right well be sure you stay tuned for our predictions in a moment which of course are spoiler free and written without any knowledge of what happened on the feeds after the eviction but first a few other pieces of information uh since big brother is a 24 7 game make sure you follow us on social media to get all of our thoughts throughout the week i post videos every day at tiktok youtube and instagram where i'm at david bloomer tv i've been making about two or three videos per day with

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[02:11:53] imagine after the season he probably he'll probably be on there as well um he's there hopefully yeah yeah yeah um and so yeah it's a fun time and i think there are more active survivor players on there too so if you like survivors and that's definitely a good place to catch them um to catch my takes at chappelle's at uh kickback and david's at david bloomberg you can also find me on recap kickback at recap kickback on all social media platforms um just podcasting uh subscribe youtube.com

[02:12:18] slash at recap kickback or if you are audio only person uh recap kickback.com slash subscribe you can subscribe on apple spotify all that kind of stuff um and then of course catch me here on rjp talking about um the slop but then also club condo behind the paywall uh the survivors coming and so i do a sloppy show over there for survivor it's not as sloppy as big brother because big brother just gives us so much um but it is a good time uh and um oh my god is that it for survivor oh yeah i think so

[02:12:46] uh so yeah catch me uh with david and with rob and then uh that's that's my fall it seems like yeah that's right that's right all right so for predictions uh like i said spoiler free so with yash gone i do feel the comps are much more up in the air devins has shown he can kill it on a puzzle i just don't think there will be another puzzle soon uh and then there was just the booth hoh and the double eviction so i feel like it's going to be something more physical that d is going to end

[02:13:16] up winning and that's when things get interesting i i just have to believe she's going to turn on drew again and put him up against melody and you know i think if if drew or if if one wins hoh i think taylor will go up but taylor will be safe so if drew and melody end up there i have confidence

[02:13:43] in drew winning the veto uh even even with melody suddenly entering her comp beast era so i think we say goodbye to melody next interesting um okay i thought we were on the same page because i definitely predicted d is going to win the hoh and put up drulity because they're not being spare you know uh there's no reason to put up taylor uh you know she doesn't have anybody else in the game and i mean this could be a very interesting spot to put up devins

[02:14:12] uh as well if you're drew if you're d uh but i really think that like obviously you want to break up the showmance uh but i thought this might be the time where we see drew finally go and it just kind of feels right you know with uh people you like you said making these mistakes or playing kind of reckless and then things coming back to bite them i think melody did what she needed to be what she needed to do uh last uh like last week or this week i guess i should say uh and so i'm not going to immediately be like and then she's she's gone i think she's got a little bit more runway

[02:14:42] but i do think that it's for one of the icons to go ahead and take this take them out and then of course at that point it'll be everybody looking at the icons as the uh the duo that they are um we've seen that in big brother so many times but i just i don't know i just feel like drew was kind of run out of space to play the game yeah okay well we're on most of the same page there yeah d has had previously said on live feeds that she intended to take out devins at three which is a risky move

[02:15:09] but you know okay go for it i guess uh so we'll we'll see if that happens uh but until then as we wrap up i want to encourage people to check out the rjp patron program at rob has website.com patron in addition to the facebook groups the discord you've already talked about several patron only podcasts some of which you're on with the slop and club condo and of course there's the q a every week and and other ones yeah you can support us by becoming a patron for sure uh it

[02:15:37] helps fund the podcast uh and keep all these good shows coming to you and so um yeah make sure you uh join the patreon community uh patreon.com slash rjp uh and then uh you know you might get first dibs on some live show tickets and stuff there's a lot of games and stuff people are starting to organize did you hear that doing the floor yes yes yeah it's coming online version of the floor for the online version of the floor i think mary and mike bloom are doing something as well you know so

[02:16:04] there's stuff going on it's a perfect time to join the community for sure yeah they're doing some sort of survivor games before each survivor episode so yeah um yeah and of course you know with with with mike and mary hosting it you know it's going to be a blast so shenanigans yeah for sure yes yes yes so also make sure that uh you're subscribed to all the rhap podcasts of course we know big brother dot com go there for your big brother also with survivor coming go to we know survivor dot com or just

[02:16:33] get everything at we know reality tv dot com uh you just go there you select your podcast service of choice if you haven't already if you're just watching this or listening to this as a one-off make sure you subscribe and of course you know you can subscribe to the youtube channel as well if for some reason you haven't yeah i'm so excited for uh you and jessica to do yx loss for um survivor uh it's one of my podcasts that i listen to for sure uh and so yeah um can't wait for that to happen and

[02:17:01] big thanks to you know the people behind the scenes scott and jess and rob are the star we didn't even talk about it the star of unlocked rob yes you know mike bloom the other star of unlock you know thanks to all the people behind the scenes rjp for all the work that they do to make this possible and thank you excuse me thank you chappelle for another great episode this was a long one we knew it would be uh you know it was uh it was a lot to pull together it was you know i was selfishly

[02:17:30] hoping that melody would be knocked out because i knew it would be a lot less work in a double uh in a double eviction but hey from without spoiling anything from things we've heard it may be another we may be talking about two people again next week uh so make sure you uh join us here uh you know it'll be a saturday again uh you know saturday afternoon again for us next week when we're the podcast is

[02:17:57] available and uh you know like i said we could be talking about two players as we're getting down to the nitty-gritty here we we only have a couple more of these podcasts left so make sure you're you're watching listening and finding us on social media in the meantime until then we'll see you bye