The Social Game Ep 3: Parvati Shallow In The Bedroom

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[00:01:13] Nicht träumen. Altours buchen. Alles drin, alles gut. Alles für dich. Altours. Alles aber günstig. Jetzt im Reisebüro oder auf altours.de. Hi guys. We are back at the Social Game Podcast. I am Michelle. I'm here with my co-host Kelly.

[00:01:37] And we have a special guest today. Visiting in New York right now. We're so lucky to have her. She has been all over your TVs. If you turn on a reality TV, you're gonna see this face. We are here joined with Parvati. Hey babes, it's nice to have you on my bed. Oh, thanks for having us. This is my first time on your bed. I know, shockingly, because when you live on an island together, you usually get very close.

[00:02:03] You didn't share a bed on the island together? No bamboo snuggles? We didn't have a bed. No, I found myself next to Nick often. Yikes. Ooh, hard start with Nick Williams. It is a hard start. But let me just tell a side story about that. This is gonna derail very quickly. But one of the chickens died, and I thought it was Nick's scent for a very long time. And I was like, Nick, you smell really bad. And it was a dead chicken? It's a dead chicken.

[00:02:30] He smells like death. I can see that. Yeah, that tracks. That tracks. So anyways, guys, we are at the Social Game Podcast. We have Parv here. Parv, you've been doing a ton of press this week. What the hell is going on in your life? Oh, well, there's so much going on. So I'm on Deal or No Deal Island right now. It's on NBC on Tuesdays. Rob and I switched places. He did Deal or No Deal Island last season, season one. I'm like the season two girl. Yeah.

[00:02:57] Trader season two, Deal or No Deal Island season two. I'm about to be on Survivor Australia versus the world, which I found last year. I wrote a book that's over here called Nice Girls Don't Win. A lot of topics to cover today. So many things going on. I know. I love it. You spent like the whole week with Boss and Rob, so like this is the time. It's like we're gonna like reclaim the girl energy here now, right? Rob is his own animal. He can't do like the girly energy.

[00:03:25] He can't, but he can hang, and he and I have a mutual understanding. Like we have a respect for each other because we've known each other for so long. And the last time I was in New York with Rob was season 20, Heroes vs. Villains. We were doing David Letterman. Wow. Yeah. Oh my God. We don't get that treatment anymore. No. We're not hitting it. They're like, you can Zoom your interviews with the Today.com show. Yeah, you have to like really stick. RealityTV.edu.

[00:03:56] Edu. God, get out of here. Yeah. It's like, oh my gosh. It's a trendy organization. You're like, is it legit? Like, or am I being hacked? But this is like a Don D themed trip, right? This is a deal or no deal trip. Okay. This was pressed for deal or no deal, but they want me to talk about traitors because I was on it because Rob's on it. No, we don't want to talk about traitors. Oh, we're going to be talking about traitors. How could you not? Right. Exactly. Are you kidding? It's so good. It's so good. I mean, we'll talk about this season too. It's always so good.

[00:04:24] Your season was iconic. It's good. It's always good. But your season was above good. I mean, that's the one that got everybody like, I feel like really like teeth into the traitors. Like everyone. Because the first one like had the half and half with, which I think there's a place for having newbies in that environment. But the reality TV people kind of like really led the pack with the confessionals and all of that. And then you guys came in full divas.

[00:04:54] Housewives, Phaedra, you. I know. It really was a perfect storm there. And now we have all the men. Yes. Yes. I know what happened there. I know. So many men. Survivor men. The men. I need more Survivor women. Carolyn. And Carolyn. Yeah. Who's the only one, you know. That's our female representation this season. I think she's doing great. But we have you and for you and Sandra to be our representation.

[00:05:21] And then for Rob, Wes and Derek to come in on cages. I'm like. Cage boys. Where is the iconic female? But Carolyn's doing well. So I think that she's just newer. So. No, but it does feel like sort of heavy metal grunge season of the traitors where it's like fucking murder. Kill everyone. Blood bath at the ramp table. This is like, I'm just going to poison Ekansu real quick. Exactly. On the cheek. Exactly. I know. Where's that? I miss. We need that.

[00:05:51] We need that. Chrishell's bringing cute looks. She served Elwood. I'm obsessed with the Bambis. Yeah. I know. We love the Bambis. We love the girls. I didn't know. The Bella sisters in there. She's adorable. Who's that? Who's Bella? Isn't. Isn't. Isn't she a boxer? Is she a boxer? She's a boxer. A wrestler? The wrestler. Wrestler. Nikki. Nikki. May she rest in peace. Oh, is she done dead? I'm sorry. Is she done dead? I spoiled you live. You just spoiled them.

[00:06:20] Oh my. If you haven't caught up with traitors, now you have. No. Thanks, Kelly. I do tend to spoil everybody. But okay, you were talking about traitors. The first season was like half. Yeah. Newbies. So you end up in this spot a lot, right? Like on Fans vs. Favorites, Deal or No 2 Island. There's like you and then the normies. The fresh meat. You know, the fresh meat. Yeah. And so I was kind of wondering, I'm like, you had like Natalie Bolton. You have your new buddy, Phillip. Yes. Oh, hello, Phillip.

[00:06:47] What is like the thing that makes you be like, this newbie is it for me? Like I'm going to draw them. They're going to be my buddy. I'm a vibe person. You guys get it. You're vibers as well. Like, you know if, and when you're forming an alliance with someone, you just have to click with them. Yeah. Phillip knew who I was and he was like, just so, he's so sharp and so quick witted, but also he's a Barry's bootcamp instructor. He was like kitted head to toe with Barry's bootcamp at the airport. He does really give that.

[00:07:17] Yeah. I love that. I was like, oh my God, this is my guy. Like he's a funny gay guy who is really strong and buff and we can win challenges together, which I think in Deal or No Deal, the challenges are the most important aspect of that show. Yeah. Like if you can win the challenges. I'm learning Deal or No Deal. I need to give an elevator pitch. What is, for people who have not seen it, what is Deal or No Deal Island about? What is like the premise of the show? This is honestly a tall task. Because she's been watching it and she's confused by it.

[00:07:48] I'm having so much fun. I love Deal or No Deal Island. I love that you're on it. It's very, it's still being kind of campy to me, but like. It is. I love that. I am the most generally confused sometimes when I watch it. I'm like, what is happening? There's four people immune. I'm trying to keep up. Sometimes I got to rewind. But I love it. Can't they change every challenge every time? There's a new rule. Okay. There's a new rule and the challenges are so layered. And then you throw in like quantum math at the end where it's like 1.75 million plus

[00:08:16] 950,000 equals the highest case. And you're like. Yeah. Like my brain is fried. Oh no. That's tough. Yeah. So I'm just like, I'm guessing we have the highest case and I'm just going to hope for the best. Yeah. Okay. That's the strategy. And I was just guessing anyways. Anyways, when I'm on any show, I'm like, let's just guess and hope for the best. Yes. That was my strategy. I'm going to align with a strong man. Yeah. And win shit. Win some challenges. Yeah.

[00:08:45] So it's like a mix of Survivor and Deal or No Deal. And how did Boston Rob sell you on this show? That's what I want to know. No, it's just, you can win millions of dollars on this show. Yeah. Like who, how much did they win last season? Like five. A million something. She won like one point something. A million. But it's not even hard. It's fun. Like you're on a tent. You're in like a glamping situation. Love that. Joe Manganiello is hilarious. Oh yeah, I love him. And it's just like. Oh no.

[00:09:15] You're having a good time. You're getting. You don't have an issue with Joe? We played it. We played a fuck, marry, kill game last episode and you did kill him, right? I killed him because. You killed Joe? Other options were Jeff and TJ. And of course I know I can't be killing Jeff. I guess. Why? Well, I don't know. It feels sacrilegious. It is. It's like your original. It's like your parenting father. That's exactly what he was. And TJ keeps the lights on for me. So like I really.

[00:09:45] My hands are kind of tired. So if you were like playing that game off camera, who would you? I mean, we all know. Who would you? Is there? We all know. Okay. We all know how to say it. Hopefully my boyfriend's not listening to my podcast. Oh God. Okay. Anyways. Back on track. I love that I have the notes as if I. Okay. But you guys get it. Like deal or no deal is like really campy. It's really fun. There's like the alliance game.

[00:10:13] The alliances come into play inside of the challenges. So it makes it like pretty layered as you're playing. That's kind of cool. I do like that. But you have to be like really surrendered. Like you can't be trying to control the thing because it's not something you can control. There's so much luck involved. Yes. Yes. That makes sense. When you. I mean, you've been on so many shows. And what I've learned having gone from survivor to the challenge, the strategy you think will be, you'll be able to use a similar strategy.

[00:10:41] Something that made me successful in survivor would, would translate to another strategy game did not work that way. And so I felt like you must have to adapt every time you go on these games. Have you found that to be true? Or do you kind of keep always like, this is who I am and I'm going to play the same way no matter what show I'm on. No. And I was talking to Rob about this when we were hanging out because people love Rob because of his consistency. And I think for me, it's about my adaptability.

[00:11:10] I'm like, you're not going to see the same me on every show. It's going to be a different person or a different version of me because I want to play to win, but I don't think I can play the same game twice because it's different people. It's a different environment. And so my like flexibility and adaptability, I think is my greatest strength in these games. So interesting. Love that. You are truly a icon in reality TV icon. Truly. Oh yeah. We all know it. I mean, you've done every possible one.

[00:11:40] We all, we all, we all, we all want to, when we go on survival, we all want to be you. We all aspire to be you. That's always our goals. Okay. So what do you think like catapulted you into that position? Like what makes you stand out? Do you feel, was there a moment? Is there a personality trait? Is it, what do you think brought you there? I think that the black widow brigade was it like it put me on the map and then COVID like when

[00:12:08] people started watching survivor streaming as like a back-to-back kind of binge sitch. And then they saw cook islands, me black widow brigade brought the women together, voted off the guys and then heroes, villains, double idol play. Like that sort of trilogy was the story that set it up for me. I never thought I would even play survivor one time in my life. So when they asked me to go back again, I was like, no, people don't even do that. That's crazy.

[00:12:36] So I never anticipated actually becoming this or doing this for my career, but I just feel like it's so cool. It's cool that you talk about like the pandemic, like Renaissance for you kind of, cause that's when I, I never watched any reality TV at all. And that was when I discovered survivor and I did exactly what you're talking about. I watched you all the way through. And then when I met you and you were like, people were like a little me about, and we

[00:13:02] were had Dion last week and we had like a whole cool conversation about like women winning the show and like how that's like changed and like evolved over time. And of course, like, I feel like you have such an interesting perspective on that. And it was so weird for me for you to be like, oh yeah, like it was difficult at the start. And people were so mean to you. Cause I'm coming in and I'm like, everyone is obsessed with poverty. I mean, and like rightfully so, like she killed it the whole time, but it was like the pandemic that really shifted that. And from like where you were during like season 16, that's so crazy. Yeah.

[00:13:31] I wrote about it in my book. People are fickle. Yeah. People are so, fans are so fickle. Yeah. It's a very different, a lot of society has changed. You were also took a bunch of heat. Oh my God. But this is, I really have learned that sometimes you are the hero and sometimes you are the antichrist to these people. It's wild the way the pendulum swings. It's like even season 39 of the challenge, I was like the worst thing that anybody's ever seen. Cause I was too controlling the game. I was playing well, but it was too controlling.

[00:14:01] And then this game I was like totally out of control. The wheels are flying off and everybody's like, great. She's doing amazing. I'm like, what is the fucking formula? There is no formula. Yeah. The formula is there. Is none. Yeah. Unless you're Rob and it's like the formula. The basketball shorts and the tank top. Well, I don't think that would work for me. I don't think that's the thing. I think with women, the standard, the bar is higher and the judgments are more extreme. Yeah. That's true.

[00:14:30] Is that where like, okay, so I'm upset. I love the nice girls don't win. Amazing title. Is that like, how did that come to be? Like that whole name? The title? I feel like I might know, but I want to hear. Okay. I want to hear you tell us. Okay. Okay. Well, Sandra notoriously talks shit about me. I knew it was right. So I was in those comments. I was commenting. Oh my God. This happened like right before I played Survivor. We were hanging out and this was happening right before. And I remember. Yes.

[00:14:58] I think I was like probably texting you about it. Yes. So she, this is before we played Traders too. And I think that's why both of us played Traders was because of this internet feud that occurred. So Sandra had like been in some kind of Facebook chat group trashing me saying something like, The depths of the internet here. Saying like, someone was like, I can't believe Sandra won. Parvati should have won.

[00:15:21] And she goes, she commented, responded to this comment and was like, um, if you would spend some time with Parvati on a beach, you would know she's not that nice. Like not even the worst thing you could say, whatever. It's kind of like, okay. But also are any of us that nice? I've spent, I've spent a lot of time with you on a beach. I found you to be pretty nice. Thank you. I like your name. I don't think you're, I don't think you're overly nice. Like, I don't think you, nobody wants like sugary sweet, like, like cavity. Yeah.

[00:15:51] But Sandra and I, but she's not overly nice either. But Sandra and I, when we played Heroes Villains together, had a great rapport. I found her very entertaining. I laughed at her jokes. We hung out a lot. Oh my God, the burning of the hat. It was like my, she was very funny. And she's hilarious. I thought she was hilarious. So I was like, God, we don't, we didn't have a bad time together. So this was like out of nowhere.

[00:16:15] Only occurred like this whole like rivalry only occurred when she was like trying to be the queen with her tiara at the end after she'd already won Heroes Villains. And she's like, I'm the queen. And then I was like, no, I'm the queen. And then we were like, oh no, I'm the queen. It was so stupid. So then she says a shit. And Tyson, I don't see these comments, but then Tyson screenshots it, sends it to me and goes, hey, Park. I sent it to you too. You sent it to me too? I 100% sent it to you.

[00:16:43] The shop around the world, really. You and Sandra beefing? And I said, well, I guess we are now. Yeah. Send it to the moon, sis. So that is literally where nice girls, oh my God. So I, I, I, I responded back. I texted it to you. Nice girls don't win. I literally texted you too. Being like, do you want me to respond to this? Like, do you want me to choose a side here? People were choosing sides. People were choosing. It was so intense.

[00:17:09] Like as soon as I responded, cause I screenshotted the thing, posted it and then put a comment where I was like, call me anything you want. Don't call me nice. Nice girls don't win survivor. And we have the book. And that's how it was born. And now we have the book. Oh my. That is like when you hear, like when you're watching the movie and they like say the title of the movie in there and you're like, that's the thing. Oh my God. I'm just so glad it's that. Okay. Got it. Cause I was like, I was thinking about it. I was like, I know this came from somewhere and I know, I know it.

[00:17:38] And I think it's this, but I don't know if I'm crazy. That's, I know it. And I told Sandra commented to her credit. She commented on my Instagram and was like, congratulations. I wish you the best. Sincerely. And I said, thanks girl. You were title inspo. Did she, did she acknowledge it? No. Oh, no, but we're fine. That's kind of a bummer. Honestly. I feel like that's something that I'd be like, that cool. I'd be like, but I messaged her in the middle of the feud.

[00:18:06] I messaged her and I was like, Hey girl, you, cause I was like having a lot of fun with it. I was like, are you having as much fun with this as I am? And she goes, it got out of hand. This was the day I saw you. This was the day I saw you. And I was like, Oh my God. I said, okay, I'm going to shut it down. I'll shut it down. Cause people were really going for it. Oh yeah. I had a funny experience with like Jerry in the comments. And I was like, these are the, these are the only two Royals that I bow to or some shit like that. Yours was good.

[00:18:33] Or like something that these are the only two Royals I'll get on my knees for. What a good middle of the road. Jerry commented like, don't, women don't get out, don't need to bow and get on their knees for anybody. And I was like, Jerry, it was a joke. God, lighten up. And you're working on two women. That's fine. You can bow on your knees for women. It's fine. Of course. Yes, you can. Oh wait, man. You certainly can. Would you bow on your knees for Jerry? Do you have a little crush on Jerry?

[00:19:01] Did you ever, are you, are you a Jerry Manthe like girly? Yeah, I think I am. I have not seen Jerry's original season. So. Yeah, I think I am. I was, I like Jerry. She's pretty hot. I started as a Jerry girl. And this is like one of those situations that I think we were just talking about where like, yes, everybody has a different edit. Jerry was such a victim of the edit. Yeah. Yes. I think her first season was tough. I can't remember the order, but then she was kind of like the, I think you can correct me if I'm wrong. She had like the original. Yes.

[00:19:33] She was the OG black widow. Yeah. Yeah. Jerry really passed a torch to me. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. And we love that for her. She's going to be on this cruise that I'm doing with her. I can't wait to bend her ear. I would slit my wrist. I'm a little. I can't believe you're doing this cruise. It was, you are going to be trapped on a boat. I know. I know. And I tried to trap my boyfriend with me, but he's coming. He's somehow slid out of it. He has a wedding. I'm like, cancel the wedding. Oh my God. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

[00:20:00] But the good news is, is that they don't know what they're in for because they actually are giving me an open tab so I can like buy as much alcohol as I want. Yeah. You can always swim to shore. I'll run it up. I heard Kelly was doing a lot of swimming on her season of Survivor. So yeah. All the way to tribal council. I'll give you some tips. It's lols guys. I'm not falling for that again. Are you sure? I will not fall for it twice. You are so white at tribal council. You will not fall for it twice. Okay. So.

[00:20:27] But they used to make us actually fake paddle out these huge outrigger canoes. Like in season 13 on Cook Islands. Mm-hmm. Before tribal council. They would, they didn't have drone. With your torch? Yes. We had our freaking, did we have our torches? Now I'm trying to remember. But we had to push. And it was like sunset. You had to get, and you're soaking wet, pushing, and then you fake paddle it. It's so exhausting. And then you push it back into shore. It's so insane.

[00:20:56] This is what we had to do in old school. I know. Well, do you know that I used the analogy last episode that I, like back in my day, we walked uphill both ways to tribal. You know, these youngins didn't even know the saying. Do you know that? Okay. Wait, what is that from? In the snow, barefoot? That's how you're doing. Oh, you mean like, okay. You mean like, this is like, okay, there's an old survivor. Also, you just said uphill. You didn't say both ways. You just said one way. Did I say both ways? I had to, honestly, I don't think I was fully listening. I don't think I heard that.

[00:21:25] I did see the comments giving me shit for not recognizing that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was, at first I was like, am I missing a survivor reference or something? No. But this is just like a general phrase. Yeah. Wait, what are you, 12? No, that's what I'm saying, dude. How old are you? She's 15 years old. And she went to Yale. Michelle has to talk about me going to Yale every episode. And she went to Yale. Oh, my God. What's the difference? Gabby is literally like, please stop talking about you going to Yale. She's like, please. I'll never let it die. And she keeps saying she's going to bring me Yale merch. And what am I wearing?

[00:21:55] I do actually have one. Oh, that was for me, though, I thought. Yeah, it's actually for Barbara. That was my gift. She needed it. Oh, wow. How quickly I've... I've traded up. Traded up. Oh, my God. I'm voting you every single time I find a new reason to vote you out and find a new co-host for this podcast. Every time. I can't. Oh, my God. I love you so much. Anyway, sorry. Let's get this fucking show back on the road. Tell us about the book. What's the deal? What's the tea? What's it about?

[00:22:25] Okay, this is my memoir. It's my origin story, how I became the Black Widow beyond now the Black Widow. There is a very special surprise at the end of the book that I cannot spoil, but it is a... It's going to be a historic closing of a chapter at the end of this book. You're pregnant. I'm sorry. I wasn't going to say that. No!

[00:22:53] That's a crazy thing to say. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. We're literally drinking champagne. I've had two bottles of champagne and then I am feeling pregnant. Okay, so... No, I'm not pregnant for everyone out there. We don't endorse this on this podcast. Okay, so there's a big surprise. Well, do we get the first copy? Yeah, can we... Maybe we should live react to the surprise. The surprise. Yeah. It's actually not in this book because this is the proof, so it's not like the fully edited version. Wow, this is like real special.

[00:23:21] Just through the surprise in last week. Oh. And it's pretty... It's monumental for me. I think it will be monumental culturally for a lot of people who are fans of mine from Survivor and like my legacy of being the Black Widow from the show. Okay, well there's a lot... I'm pre-ordering it right now. You're going to know so much about me. Yeah, that's a little one-sided. I think we're going to have to do a six-hour Zoom where I tell you all about my life after. Yes. So just like... But like in short story form. Yeah. Like scene form.

[00:23:51] We'll just write a book for Parvati only. Yeah. So you're just sort of like... I feel like it's only fair since I know so much about you that you now sit through this Zoom and learn all about me. Okay, I'll do that. Okay. You know, for balance. For a balanced friendship. I am excited to read it though. I really am. I think it's going to be great. I feel like you've had so many like variations of yourself. Like you rebirth yourself so much. And I feel like I'm excited to learn. Well, I know a little bit about... I trapped you on an island for a while. I'm very lucky.

[00:24:21] So I got to hear a little bit about like how you were raised and what, you know, kind of what you did with the money after you won and the ups and downs of like so many of your journeys. And I feel like you are in the best phase of your life. Like I really do feel that way. Yeah. And I'm excited for you. Oh, thank you. I feel that way too. I feel really excited about what's happening in my life. And I think it is a testament to having gone through the amount of life that I went through and then to have like looked back over it.

[00:24:50] And writing this book was like a two and a half year process for me. So I really got granular about certain stories in my life and what, um, how I got into some of this stuff that wasn't really, really amazing and then how I got out of it and what's really solidified for me as who I am now. And I think the moral of the whole book is like, just start over.

[00:25:17] If it's not working, stop digging in deeper. If it's not working, just like burn it down and start over. And you have the capacity to do that as many times as you have to do it in your life. I agree. To be happy. I feel inspired right now. I am great. I am an abandoner. I do believe in that. I do believe in an abandon. I am such an abandoner. Like if something's not working, I'm happy to leave it. But I didn't pull the flag on Extinction Island.

[00:25:46] So certain flags I won't pull. Hell yeah. I'm glad that you didn't pull that flag because we needed you in that journey and a little spice and good looks to it. You know? You did so good in that game too. It was just like three rock stars at the end. Are we going to unpack some winners at war trauma? No. We should though. Because you really nailed it. I thought you played a really good game. You know. There was a real, I think honestly, like a real renaissance for you in terms of like at least the fan reaction that everyone was just like so, I mean you really, it's not

[00:26:15] accident to get to the end twice. No. And you definitely proved. On like a very difficult season. The problem was is that I couldn't gain traction to any of my ideas. And I think that this is what, I never saw your season, but it sounded like you had a good grasp on like the relationships enough where they trusted you and they followed you. Sure. You got blindsided and that happens, especially when you're in control. But you also have this, like that ability to like, like, here's my plan. And here's what I see. And I'm going to execute it with rallying troops.

[00:26:45] And like, I never had that power in any of my games. I can see what's going on and I can exploit it. And I could be like, you are being played by Tony, but I can't find the way to like get everybody rallied behind it. So I think it's always my fatal flaw. I can like ride the stream. I can ride the current law for a long way. This is harder, Michelle. So yeah. And this is why I think you would be great on deal or no deal Island because it's not

[00:27:14] a control game survivor. At the end of the game, when you sit in front of the jury, the jury wants to know how you controlled the game. But on deal, it's not about control. It's about doing exactly what you said you're really good at. You could win. Adaptability is I, I use that term earlier and I love that. And I do feel like that is something. And even with you talking about the book, how you like, you'll pull the cord on something to rebuild yourself.

[00:27:40] Like, I think that that does work in a lot of these strategy games, not for everybody, but like the more you put a chokehold on something, the more you lose it, the more like people are onto you and the more some people can, can navigate things that way. But nah, that's, I don't know. Honestly, I think if you have a fixed mindset, that's like the way I've always done it is the way it's going to be. And this is how I win. You're just, you get stuck.

[00:28:07] And I think you're going to miss a lot of opportunities that life presents. And I think if you can be adaptable in that way and flexible where you're not so rigid about your own personality and you're willing to kind of shape shift your identity occasionally to, you know, rise up to the occasion for different possibilities, your life is going to be just so much more fun. I know. And like, I'm here for the fun. Yeah, I really am. That's what dealer no deal is fun. It's so fun. Okay. So what? Okay.

[00:28:37] And at the end of every challenge, I'm so curious about this. Deal or no deal, this is my audition tape. I am. Wait, Michelle, Michelle, do you like iced tea? And by the way, I didn't kill you. Don't watch. She knows. She knows. What's your feelings on iced tea? I mean, I, Arnold Palmer who? Why is lemonade in the mix? Like iced tea is the king of all drinks. No, it's classic iced tea. So like what, what is the deal with the iced tea? It's like, that's just their thing. That's their thing. That's their shtick. It's iced tea. It's just like really confusing.

[00:29:06] At the end of every challenge, there's like a vat of iced tea. You know, I think what they want to do with deal or no deal island is give it like a few little gimmicks because it's campy. It's goofy. It's silly. Yes, love that. But it's also like cheeky and fun and sexy. Yeah. And iced tea is just like how we cap off a day. I mean, I love that. Do you like most people's kind of sexy in general? God, iced tea has me turned on right now.

[00:29:36] Who doesn't love a vat of... I'm kind of iced teas. Iced tea. Nice girls don't love... Just ice just bobbing in that cold, sultry, refreshing iced tea. I can't do this right now. Listen. I made up a dance for it. And you know, Joe, you know Joe. Wait, for real? Is from Magic Mike. Oh. Oh. Oh. Okay. So you have a magic mic.

[00:30:04] So my iced tea dance was inspired by Magic Mike. I don't know if they're going to show it. I imagine they will. Stay tuned. Oh, I will stay tuned for that. I don't think they're going to be missing that opportunity. I don't care about the cases. Like, I'm ready for that. Yeah. Well, speaking of campy and fun, we have a deal or no deal game, don't we? Yeah. Let's play. So now we're going to play deal or no deal island.

[00:30:32] It's a little different than your no deal or no deal island. You will pick two cases at random. Or actually, I would prefer if you had like a really specific reason, like rocked it. Like, you know, no pressure. My favorite number is five. Okay. So yeah, Michelle's favorite number is five. Things like that. That helps. Okay. You just do like four and six now. Like, just kind of tease around. Yeah, you are obsessed with that. I honestly do. I honestly do. This is why you listen to this podcast. Okay.

[00:31:01] I hope they're not watching because I am watching. Don't watch the YouTube of this. I hope you're on Spotify. Go to Spotify right now. Watch this on Spotify. Link below. Okay. So now you're going to pick. You're going to pick two games. I do around this long. Kelly's explaining the game. You're so cute right now. I really read. It's really adorable. I need to make sure the podcast listeners know too. Bye. I am open to that. I am into that. Four and six.

[00:31:32] Okay. Let's keep this thing on the rails. We can. We can. We're good. Okay. Reset. Okay. So deal or no deal. Island, there are 24 cases here. You can pick two each round. And each case has someone in them that you know from playing some season of reality TV with them. Okay.

[00:31:56] There's the spectrum of friendship and likability is all represented here. Okay. So you're going to have two cases. You're going to open them up and you will have to pick who you would rather be stranded on an island with. Okay. So great game. Good job, Brandon, for putting this together. Great game. Yeah. We love picking suitcases. I haven't seen you pick suitcases yet, you know, on deal or no deal. So I'm ready to see it here. I tend to pick winners. You do. Well, let's fucking do this.

[00:32:25] Let's see if you pick some winners. Let's fucking do this. Okay. Great. So I'm going to, you know, provide your commentary on why. You need to have good reasons. All right. So what cases are you starting with? All right. There's so many numbers here. And this was my issue with deal or no deal is I am not a numbers person. I am a words person. I wrote a book for a reason. Well, you can just close your eyes and think. I didn't do a math test. But now I have to, I'm going to do it. So I am going to choose.

[00:32:54] It's really hard because there's so many, but I'm going to go straight for the heart of it and just choose number five. Oh, okay. Case number one. All right. Next case. That felt really difficult for you. To the center. All right. Wait, do what? Do she open it first? Oh my God. Did you know? No. Oh my God.

[00:33:23] It was a setup. It was such a setup. It was such a setup. It was a setup. Oh my God. I don't know what to feel about that. She is my lucky number. It's Sandra. It's a rivalry with you. I'm going to talk to my therapist about that. There's a lot to unpack there. Friction builds heat. All right. We have one more case. I'm going to choose number six. It's adjacent to five. Great reasonings. Here we go. Five adjacent. Five adjacent. That's me next to Michelle. Nick Wilson. What? Stop.

[00:33:53] Two. What are the chances? Technical winners. What are the chances of them? Not me starting this podcast with Nick Wilson and now we've found ourselves back. Yeah, I'm sorry. I have been straight on an island with both of them. And out of the two, I would definitely pick Sandra. Yay. Oh, the universe is healed. Yay. Oh, okay. We got to do another round. This is so funny. Okay. Okay. That's crazy. That's a crazy throw. What's your favorite number, Cal?

[00:34:22] My favorite number is nine. I'm going to go with number seven. Yeah, I knew you were going to. That's fair. I'll take the L. I guess it's a nice time. I mean, it sucks. I just had to mess with you. Yeah, yeah. You got to fuck with her a little bit. It's going to fuck with her a little bit. Oh, wow. Where's she been? Iconic pole. Where is people really want to know? Where in the world is Amanda Kimmel? We need, we need. I asked you that. I was like, have you ever talked to Amanda Kimmel?

[00:34:52] And you're like, no. I'm coming out with a line of books. Actually, Penguin Random House is making it. And it's where in the world is Amanda Kimmel? And it's like, where is Waldo? But it's just Amanda Kimmel really tiny. Amanda should have like tucked in. Different Persian wedding outfit. Ooh, I took a turn. Have you not seen their modeling? Recent modeling. Oh my God. They put it on. Wait, that was the Drop Your Buffs guys. They put it on their, are we allowed to talk about them? Oh, you know how? It's a rivalry. My rivals? Well.

[00:35:20] We had a little, we squashed it. Relationship? We healed. Ish. We healed it. Ish. I did the Azra Volani award with Venus. You know, I did the. Well, if you want to know where Amanda Kimmel is, then she has popped up on the map. She has? She's doing the modeling. She's resurfaced. I thought those were like old photos though. Oh, you know what? I don't know actually. They could be old. She is a hottie patottie. I'll tell you. She's stunning.

[00:35:49] I could not believe that a body like that is actually a real thing. Like when I saw her as a young chubby 14 year old when I watched my first season with braces. You were like, boy, yon, yon, yon. And knee crisis. I'm like, kids like that go in a small little frame like that? It was crazy. From Montana. That's how they make them in Montana. Oh, yeah. Not just Montana. Mostly. From Montana. Yeah. Farm raised. She was a beauty queen. She was like Miss Montana. I know. She's gorgeous. Yeah.

[00:36:17] But yeah, she's been MIA for a while. So why don't you pick another? All right. 20. Wait, what did you say? Nine. Did you say nine? Yeah. We're going to go with number nine. Number nine for Cal. You know what I love better than anything is a pity pick, you know? Enough teasing for my girl. Teasing's fine. Okay. We all enjoy teasing. Coach. Oh my gosh. Wow. Another iconic figure. Another round of people you've both been on an island with already. But isn't that the game? Yeah.

[00:36:46] Well, not everybody. Oh, not everybody I've been on an island with in these two games? From Traders or I don't know. You could have been in a turret. You could have been in a... Oh, got it, got it. Okay. Well, Coach is in a league of his own. Mm-hmm. Right. When it comes to... All right. I'm going to put these four together and say who do I want to be. I'm going to choose Amanda as the person I want to be on an island with. Yeah. That's sweet. She's really fun. Yeah, I think I would like her. She seems so fun. She's super fun. Heroes, villains, it was like a weird thing. Mm-hmm.

[00:37:13] I think she was in her PTSD from going back to back to the end. That's crazy, though. It happens in not winning. That's really tragic. Back to back is insane. Yeah. Lots of eyes on you, lots of opinions, lots of disappointment. And at the time when she and I were on Heroes, Villains, when we did Micronesia, it was a different era in pop culture where women were very easily slut-shamed and judged in really cutting, looks-based. I hate that. It was very shitty.

[00:37:42] So she's been through it. So I think she and I would have a lot to talk about on an island. We'd have a lot to process. Maybe Coach could be there mediating the conversation. Yeah, that actually would be great. Like a therapeutic intervention by Coach. Are we just going to give roles to all of them now? Yeah, what's Nick doing? Nick is like the coconut chopper boy who just has to go get coconuts and chop them. Yes, just to work. He has to order him around. Yeah, absolutely. And also he has to stay out of sight. He cannot be seen.

[00:38:09] He has to hide behind a palm tree. No, no, he does. No, he does. He does. Yes. Okay. Are you- He shall not be seen by Amanda and I, nor Coach. No. Okay. No, nor Sandra. He's in his hat. Nor Sandra. Nor Sandra. Now let's give Sandra a role. I mean, she'll be in the house of, you know, representatives of the Fiji Island, like way back. Sandra, I think she's the one who like kind of comes in and she sort of like shit talks you just so that you try harder. Got it.

[00:38:40] So Coach is like coming in and he's like, parv, Amanda, like you can bridge this and rebuild your relationship. And Sandra's like, you suck. Yeah. Stoke the flames. Do better. Right. And you're like, okay, okay. So she's like, she's like a nineties parent. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, she's like how I was raised essentially. Toughen up kid. Get your shit together. Get it wrong. You're a fucking embarrassment. No, I'm just kidding. Exactly. My parents don't do that.

[00:39:10] They're all. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Your mom listened to the podcast. She was liking all our stories. Oh, that's so sweet. Really cute. My mom's great. She's. Is her name right? Yeah. Her name is Linda. Lindalicious. I saw a Linda show that I was like, oh, I bet that's Michelle's mom. Oh yeah. One, one Pinot Grigio. She's Linda. Give her a three. She's Lindalicious. And she'll tell you everything. She'll, she'll, she'll get it feisty on social media. I'm looking forward to meeting Lindalicious. Let's have her on the pod. Yeah. What's she doing tonight? Yeah.

[00:39:40] Well, I don't know. I don't, I don't call her after 9 PM. I try to stay. The minutes run up, you know? See, I know some old school things. Okay. All right. What? One. Okay. You said I didn't know things because of that pill. Did I win? Yeah. No, you gotta do it again. Oh, one more? I think we should do it again. Okay, one more. One more. This is our survivor people. I'm gonna see more. One more pull. Okay, we're gonna go with number 11. You guys, I have. I love that. Nice clean number. I love that. No reason. I love 11 too.

[00:40:10] Three. Oh. I mean, well, nobody has another shot. Yeah, everyone else is screwed. Now if you pull Ethan, then we have a real Sophie's choice here, but otherwise I think you know. Yeah, that's true. It would be tough between Saree and Ethan. Like the, like, theoretical tribe dynamic that you just did. We could do that again. Yeah, let's bring Saree into the gang. Welcome to Heroes for Silence. Are we gonna put Nick way over here? He's on his own island just chopping coconuts and sailing them over.

[00:40:41] He has to row them over every day. One by one. One by one. Okay. All right. Who's competing with Saree? Very serious podcast. Okay. Saree is, she truly is my survivor soulmate. Mm-hmm. So it's like, all these people can never compare. Yeah, they eat rocks. Yeah. But I would be, I love her. He does. I'm actually gonna see her tonight. Oh my. She's in town with her son.

[00:41:11] Oh. Pooh Bear. Jared. Yeah. So sweet. I saw her when she was doing Watch What Happens Live, actually. I was like in the back. I wasn't on screen, obviously, because I'm a peasant. Soon enough. Soon enough. I was in the back. We'll get you in the game. Yeah. It's not easy to be in the audience for Watch What Happens Live. No. It's a small audience. Yes, it's very intimate. How'd you even get that seat? Well, listen, I may be in the back, but I still have, I can still pull strings, Parv,

[00:41:41] okay? You can still get in the room. Yeah, I'm in the room. Was Saria a bartender, too? No, no, no. She was like. She was a main guest for Traders when she won. Yeah. It was earlier in the season, and I want to say she was on, I don't even know who she was on with, but Alan had been on there. She was like, I think, one of the only few that was a main guest from Traders that was not. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Yeah. I think that deserves it. Amazing. I mean, God, it's so hard to win Traders as a Trader. It's wild.

[00:42:10] It feels impossible. And then she went and crushed it on Big Brother. It's like, is there anything she can do? She can't. And then we just both played Survivor Australia versus the world together. Oh my God. The world is going to lose their minds. We had a great time. I love that. Okay. Well, you got to pick somebody to go against her. Okay. 13. I'm going to put the little kibosh on this thing. Ooh, 13. Janelle. One who I've not been on an island with. Okay. But you played Traders with her, right? I played Traders with Janelle and she, she was really fun and she wanted to like,

[00:42:41] whoa. Okay. I remember this moment so vividly. We're in the Land Rovers. We're heading to our first challenge. I'm not a Trader yet. I was, it was like day one. Oh yeah. And Janelle, I'm sitting right next to her. MJ's sitting next to us. Sandra's in the front seat with her braces. And Janelle is like, gotta call that out. They were a central feature on the show. You had headbands. You had headbands. Everybody brought something in the castle. We all had our own signature flair.

[00:43:10] And Janelle was sitting next to me and she was like, okay, so a hundred percent, we're all not Traders. So what's going on? Blah, blah, blah. And she's like talking about strategy and who we should banish. And Sandra turns around and she's giving it back to Janelle and I'm looking at both of them and I'm like, both of you bitches are Traders. You were dancing on it. No. I know. I was like, how can they be so confident that I'm not a Trader and that MJ's not? And that each other's not.

[00:43:39] If anyone's a Trader, it's Sandra. It's Sandra. If anyone is a Trader. If it's not me, it's her. Right. Logical conclusion. Right? Yeah. So I was just like. Definitely not MJ. Short circuiting in the Land Rover being like, they both have to be Traders. But then they weren't. That's crazy. And in a wild tournament, you were. And you were. And then I was. And I was like, how did that happen? My head was spinning around. But I did like Janelle and I loved Janelle and Sandra's face off.

[00:44:08] Oh my God. I forgot the round table. I forgot about this. Okay. Yeah. This was good. This, the pair, the matchup between Janelle and Sandra. No, you're a fucking Trader. Right? You're a fucking Trader. You're a Trader, bitch. Drink that water, bitch. Trader. Trader, bitch. You thirsty? Yeah. Yeah. Trader. I will say that I think Traders, what they do really well is their casting. They have people who can hold their own at that round table. It is intense and people really bring it. And what they also do well is that they pick Traders who, Traders are like such a central

[00:44:38] theme of it. If you have somebody like Phaedra and you being Traders and Kate, you know they're going to deliver the lines. Yes. If you have bad Traders, it's so much of the show. Yeah. So who they choose is so pivotal to like moving the plot and like the entertainment value. Yeah. I wonder if they know like, I love it when it's like the, not the Traders, but like the, like the other people who come from like not competition reality show that then like

[00:45:04] serve like amazing gameplay, like Dylan Efron or Pilot Pete or even like Gabby. It's like, do they know like who's going to come in and be like actually clocked? They don't. They didn't have those expectations. Roll the dice. Right. It was really surprising for them, I think. And they had higher expectations for me than I had of myself. I was like, I, you guys, I am not a good, like overt liar. Like I can do emotional manipulation. Really well. But yeah. Direct bold face lies.

[00:45:34] I think it's like mafia is so stressful for me. Like I don't enjoy it. Like I'm just not having, you know, mafia, the game is basically what our Traders is. Horrible. We played it like as a cast one time and they made me and D the mafia and we like lost immediately. Cause I was just like so stressed. You're like smiling. You're like, I didn't kill you. But I also lose like as a faithful as well. Like I'm like, I like lose no matter how you slice me. Everybody thinks that I'm. Okay. Well there's this, you know, you're going to join.

[00:46:00] I just, I really, there's an infamous me playing werewolf or whatever for like on Rob has a podcast. Oh really? And I was a faithful and, and everybody thought I was a traitor. When I was a traitor, everybody thought that I was a traitor. I just, I had no, there's no hope for me really. But that's what it's like for me too. Yes. You're always going to be under the spotlight of suspicion. Yeah, I know. I know. And I think we saw that with all survivors this season. So what do you think about the survivor on survivor crime?

[00:46:29] A lot of survivor on survivor crime. Dark, dark murder happening. Yeah. Like I feel like at that time there was four people, four Traders in the turret. Two were survivors. Two were very closely aligned. And I feel like in order for Boston Rob to have any sort of power in that turret, he needed to get rid of the drag queen. Bob the drag queen. So that. You can't have a Bob and a Rob. I just, you can't, you can't. A Bob and a Rob walk into a turret.

[00:46:59] It doesn't work. It's too much. Actually that did work for me. I am Bob. So it works for me. I'm trying to, I'm trying to be the Bob that walks into the turret. And now this is my Traders audition tape. We did Taylor No Deal Island before. I am now auditioning for Traders. I love it. No, but I think that it was a wild move for him, but also like, I don't think he would have voted off Jeremy traditionally. So I think that he probably lost. We didn't really see much of that turret. I'm more like, like, Oh my God. We didn't see much of that.

[00:47:29] About them killing Jeremy. Yes. I was like, Oh, that really gagged me. Like I kind of get the Tony thing, like fine. But I was like, Oh my God, they're really going to kill Jeremy. And we didn't see a lot of how it went down. So I'm wondering if there, there was just Rob didn't have enough control in the turret. And he had to get rid of. That's the chain of events, right? Like he's like, he kind of got maybe strong armed a little bit. So then he had to strong arm. Yeah. What's your take? Because you're closer to the fire. These shows do not happen in a vacuum. They happen in the context of history.

[00:47:56] And Rob and Jeremy's most recent history is probably Winners at War. Right. When Rob voted out Natalie and burned Jeremy. And then Jeremy voted out Ethan and burned Rob. So. I'm never going on shows with anybody ever again. I was part of that. But I thought that they buried that. It doesn't get. What? No. Gets buried, doesn't stay buried. Interesting.

[00:48:24] So I have a sense that perhaps that came into play. It could be a little subconscious vibes as well. There's a lot of ego going on as well with all the boys. I think like the girls can bury it. Yes. Like Phaedra, when she came in after I like said something about the housewives at the round table and then she hits me in the turret with nobody likes you. Yeah. And I was like, are we doing this or what? And we're like, okay, I guess we'll work together now. Like no one likes you. Yeah. I don't get to say. Nobody likes you. Nobody likes you.

[00:48:54] Phaedra T. I was like, okay, are we working together now? I was gagged watching you guys work together. I was like this as a housewife lover. And Phaedra was just gold. She's so funny. She's so funny. She's truly irreplaceable. And then her relationship with CT too, because I'm also in that world. That was very cute. I was like, literally, like I love this season, but I obviously watch all of my friends kind of like go out back to back. Yeah. A little sad.

[00:49:22] I still have Wes and Boston Rob in there, but you know, otherwise, you know, I know they're kind of having a little tension as well. Are you friends with Wes? Yeah. Do you have a relationship with Wes? Yeah. How do you think he's going to do? I think, I mean, I think it will be hard for him to win. He's like such a game player and I think he likes to control. Like he, he loves to be in control of strategy. So I think it's going to be hard for him. I think ultimately, especially with Boston Rob, two big personalities. They both really like to be in the driver's seat.

[00:49:51] They had a very interesting convo this week. Yeah. It's kind of like a face off. Yeah. A little bit. It was like a very awkward and tense. It was tense. That's the thing. Dondi, deal or no deal. And, um, traders is not a control game. They're just not. Yeah. I love that. And even survivor, I think to an extent now, now it's, yeah, you can't have any control. Because of the element of luck. It's like the more you try to white knuckle something and make it go the way that you see your vision making it go.

[00:50:21] So you really have to be able to drop whatever it is that you think is going to have to go your way to navigate whatever's actually happening. Yeah. And then to be able to succeed in these games, I think you just, you have to have that ability to let go. Yeah. I think some of these big egos don't have that because they just want to be the, be running the show. Is this like, Australian's driver's like quick this time though, right? It's really fast. Yeah. It was like challenge tribal, challenge tribal. This is how the new era is. It's like you don't get a break. Every day is some new fresh hell.

[00:50:51] It was hearty hell. Yeah. That's why I use that time in the van to just be anxious, just to go into a pool of anxiety. Use it to just stoke the fires of a mental breakdown. Who wants to sit with their thoughts? Cool. You know, panic attack. Yeah. It's like, okay, you can come up with a challenge. You can come up with a strategy. Go Brandon. Or you can kind of fall apart at the seams, which is what I use that time for. This is so old. That was great. We all have our own strategy.

[00:51:21] Okay. We do have one last game for you and then we're going to wrap it up. We've, we've really monopolized your time here. And my wine glass is empty, which is a sin. This is the only game that I've ever come up, come up with. It was really funny. I love it. Coming up with. I typically just let them do all the stuff and then I come in and steal it and pretend it's mine. But I came up with this one. So if you don't like it, pretend you do. Okay. So it's called. Love it. It's called headband or headband. So we're, it's like in or out. Yeah.

[00:51:51] Yeah. Okay. So we're going to name something. Some are like dating things. Some are friend things. Some are just like regular things. Some are going to be strategy, uh, game show, reality TV things. And you have to tell us whether it's headbands. It's like in and it's fetch and it's cool. Headbands are in. Headbands are always in. Headbands are in. Braces. The verdict's out on that. See, she got them off. So they're out. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Now, now they're out. Cause you're off Sandra. They're off. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. You could call it headbands or head wounds.

[00:52:21] Cause Sandra also had one of those on trade. Oh my goodness. You really just got Brandon. That was excellent. Okay. My goal of the podcast is to get Brandon to laugh off screen. That's actually my goal. I want to give you a little mic. Like, well, I didn't come up with the game headbands or head wounds. Okay. It's called a head band or head band. She's really proud of this one. Honestly, I think it's brilliant, Michelle. I'm really excited. Dude. Okay. I mean, I mean, that's not a sarcastic.

[00:52:51] Now saying, saying that I came up with the game doesn't mean that I came up with the prompts for it. I just shot it to them and then they came up with these ones. Okay. So you're already making excuses for your game. Yeah. Okay. So if it falls apart, it's actually my fault. If it falls apart, it's on that. Okay. Voice memos. Voice memo. Like a voice note? Are you a voice note girl? I am a voice note girl. I would head band that shit. I agree. You like to call too. I love a quick voice note.

[00:53:21] If I can't call, if I've like got my daughter who doesn't let me call anyone without stealing the phone and running away, I will voice note someone. I love it. To just convey important information. Usually it's an emotional tale. Yes. Of some drama. Yes. That you cannot convey via written. Yes. You need the whole tonality. I love that. And if people don't like it, now they have that amazing thing where it can like prompt or read it. Yes, it shows the whole thing. And it's not going to give the intention that I had, which is to take you through the tale with my emotional, you know, sort of storytelling.

[00:53:50] Storytelling. Yes, absolutely. But they can opt to read it nowadays. And also the, like the word is not perfect. The words are never even remotely right. It's kind of like a fun little puzzle. Enjoy. Clapping when the plane lands. No. Head. I hate that. Ma. Headband that shit. Headband. I agree. We all agree. Unless you're landing in Disney. Disney. Orlando. Orlando. She gets it. You're like, oh, I landed in Disney. Yes. Clap. Okay.

[00:54:19] Well, that's actually one of them going to Disney. Headband or headband? Oh, it's an in between for me because whenever I go to Disney, it's fun, but it's too much. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We just had that. I just went with like half my cast was like me, Dee, Emily, Caleb, and Brandon. We drank around the world. Brandon was sober. Oh, fun. And we were a total mess. I'm not a big dude. I'm headband on that one. It's like, it's so hot. Everybody's walking around.

[00:54:47] They have like mustard and ketchup stains on their shirts. It's like, it's just like a land of like mustard stains on t-shirts. It's like Goon Squad City. It's not for me. I'm going to headband it. Yeah. Let's headband it. The Disney adults will be coming for us. Harry Potter World. Oh, Harry Potter World different. Okay. Celebrating your birthday all week long. No. Headband. No. I agree with you. I hate it when people do that. Some people are like, it's my birthday month. Gross. Stop. Month? What are you, a Leo?

[00:55:19] I know a few Leos like that. No Leos watch this podcast. Let's be honest. All right. They don't anymore. All right. Filming fireworks. Posting it on your story. I do that. Me too. Me too. You know, it's like bad, but I can't help myself. I can't help it. You guys, sometimes there's also like pyrotechnic insanity. For 4th of July, I was in a cul-de-sac. This was actually insane.

[00:55:45] People had RVs parked in their front yards in Fontana, California. Wow. Like east of LA, my sister's friend. And I was like, I've never seen anything like it. They blocked the whole neighborhood. Everyone is setting off fireworks in their yard, in the cul-de-sac. A box catches on fire. Oh. I'm sitting there with Alma and I'm like, that's going to shoot at our face. And it just starts shooting off into the roof of the house. I used to work in the ER and people would truly blow their fingers off with fireworks. Yeah. I think it's headband. I think it's in.

[00:56:14] It's in. It's in. Oh, it's in. Yeah. In, in. Okay. Not talking at the round table. Look, I didn't talk at the round table. For the first. Go around. You took a little heat up for that. Yeah. I know. That's a tough one. But it's like. Parliament John. It's so hard. Oh. I would head ban it because I want to see people talk at the round table. It's wildly uncomfortable and you have to just force yourself to do it. You should be forced.

[00:56:44] Like in the challenge, when you have a round table sort of setting, they make every single person talk. Ooh. I like that. They force you. I like that. They'll be like, they'll be like, Colleen, you haven't said a thing. She's like, I don't speak English. But besides that reason. No, that's true. Don't cut that. Don't cut that. Colleen, if you're watching. I don't know. I know you know what you said at reunion. I know you know that word. Ooh. Just kidding. Okay. Oh my God. We didn't even talk about the reunion.

[00:57:14] Challenge drama. Yeah, I know. But let's not talk about that. PTSD. Okay. That's fine, honey. Headband Colleen. Well, headband the challenge reunion. Headband. Headband. Yeah. It's hard to tell if we're saying headband or headband. That's part of the charm. The origin was headband, like B-A-N-N-E-D or headband. Yeah. It was even harder before. Way too hard. That's the same word. No, I know. It is spelled differently. It's a little funny though. This is an audio podcast. I sent them a message.

[00:57:44] I said, why don't you guys say it out loud? You can't tell the difference. I was like, we were just saying it out loud. Here's how we would say it. Headband. Oh, yes. We needed a part of the British accent to make it into this podcast. Okay. Well, we can do it. Do you want to give up? So you want to do headband? Handband. I don't know if I can emulate that. Is that the out one or in? In. Oh. Okay. Interesting. Interesting. Because I would choose that.

[00:58:12] I hope you're keeping up at home, everyone. I would choose that. Because I'm lost on this bed. Okay. Listen, wearing sunglasses inside. Is it head? What did you say? Band? Headband. Headband. Actually, I'll head only for one person. Sari. Sari. Is the only person allowed to wear sunglasses inside. Otherwise, headband. Love Island people wear sunglasses inside.

[00:58:40] But now I feel like I'm saying headband as the wrong thing. But before we were saying it was the right thing. I don't know. Okay. Moving on. You were saying headband is bad. Okay. Well, anyway. You're banning it. We know. We know. We know. We don't like it. Okay. If you're active listening, you know. You get it. PDA. PDA head? It's in. I love it. I am in for PDA. Slime a smooch on me in public. Don't be shy. I will put my hand down your pants. Yeah. Okay. Well, you know what? I've already blushed once today. I already. This.

[00:59:09] Everybody is listening on Spotify now. Okay. This is where like the listener spike peaks. Rewind. So spying on your podcast. Throwing an immunity challenge. Oh. I would never do it. I would never throw an immunity challenge. Yeah. I don't think I had it in me. I don't know when other people do it for me. Yeah. So headband in for other people doing it for me. Got it. I like that answer. Anytime that I reap the benefits of anything I like. We're into it. I'll say go for it.

[00:59:39] Yeah. Okay. Splitting the bill on a date. Nah. If. No. Headband. Out. Out. It's out. Out. It's out. Yeah. Just take the bill. Take it. Take the bill. And I'm going to put seven feet of three shoes on there. Don't complain about it. Don't be a little bitch. Get a second job. Take notes everyone. God. I'm a reality TV star. What are you. I'm not making that much money, dude. What am I, the monopoly man? That's why we have this podcast.

[01:00:09] What do I look like? All right. Calling instead of texting. Yeah. I would do that. You totally do that. Yeah. I do it. Because I feel like it's just like quick connect. You're not expecting it. I keep you on your toes. So it's in. And we're going to have a cute little chat. Headband. Headband. We don't know which one it did. Okay. Getting too competitive on game night. Headband. That's in. I really like it when people get ferociously. We're ferociously competitive. Outrageously.

[01:00:38] Like out of control competitive. Flip the table or don't bother. Look. That is my daughter's motto. She lives by that. She's six and she flips tables. Love that. I love that. Yeah. She's going to grow up to be a great winner. If you're not playing to win, you're not playing. Yeah. Well, we only raised winners. Let's be honest. She's going to follow in your footsteps. Yeah. Okay. She's winning. Turning on a fellow trader. Ooh. Wow. You know, I think that you got to do it at some point. It just depends.

[01:01:08] Like if you feel like they're losing it, like I wish I would have turned on Dan earlier. Yeah. Because it would have been more, it would have been better for me. I feel like if I would have done that, I could have like had a better chance at convincing people that I wasn't a trader. Yeah. But I don't know. I just, yeah. I think it's a headband as like a good thing if it's going to help a fellow trader advance the heat off. Do it in the right way. Yeah. Okay. Or if it's a boring trader.

[01:01:37] All girls alliances. Headband, babe. That's always in. Always. Unless, you know, it leads to you being voted out like me. Okay. Unless you're Brandon and you're invited. Take me a picture. Yeah, Brandon's always invited. Come on. He's the one who wrote these. It's true. Okay. Taking a picture of your food before you eat it. No. Uh-uh. Stop doing that. Do you do that? I don't. Do you do that? I deserve. Gabby's like a food photographer a little bit. Okay. If it's your job, fine. Different story.

[01:02:06] A headband in if it's your job. Headband for Gabby and no one else. Reggie person. Reggie. I was just like going to dinner. I'm going to adopt that. I love a reggie. Like I was calling the people on the season with you like normies, but they're actually reggies. They're reggies. Just a reggie person just with your fucking lackluster homemade dry salmon. Yeah. That's bad. I don't want to see your like high protein plate. I'm out on your salmon and fucking Brussels sprouts. I'll do like Instagram deals with this company called Marley spoon, which was like a box, whatever you make the thing.

[01:02:36] That's different. And you have to make it. And I'm like, why does this look so bad? Okay. But here's the thing. If you're getting paid for it, it's headband. It's in. Yeah. Headband in if you're getting paid. If you're listening to this and you know that we're doing an ad, like that's how we keep the food on the table. So like, look, you want my daughter to starve? Yeah. Buy these teeth whitening strips. Like her fucking Marley plates. Okay. Pretend that the food looks good.

[01:03:04] Like comment, share, send it to your friends. Exactly. You guys understand. Are you kidding me? I'm going to be the first one in there being like, can't wait to buy that box. I need that. Yum, yum. Invite me over for dinner. My passion is food photography. All right. So listen, taking a picture of your food is out. Fireworks are still in. So then we're going to keep that. Clapping on the plane. Out. All right. Ghosting. Okay.

[01:03:29] I have turned a corner on honesty and directness where I just do it now. I'm just like. Love it. I'm no longer interested in communicating with you. Got it. Carry on. Carry on. With yourself. Yeah. I just like do a wave. It's been real. But like there's a difference between ghosting and Irish exiting. Right. Like at a party I will. That's fine. Disappear. And do a cloud of smoke. But like ghosting someone on a, like who you're dating or like. Yeah. Friends with. Yeah.

[01:03:59] Ghosting is like you've been on a few dates and then you're like. Yeah. And then you just don't say like, sorry, I'm not interested. You just never talked to me again. No. I like saying I'm not interested. Yeah. It's like a dopamine hit for me. Yeah. So that's how you got all of your nicknames. I am now a little bit nervous. I am sitting very close to you. I love that. She's like, I love to just cut them. I do though. But I feel like I say it in a kind way where I'm like, the chemistry is just not where it needs to be. Yeah. For me. Yeah.

[01:04:30] But I'm sure you'll find someone who's right for you. Yeah. It's not a match. Let them down easy. I got it. I'll just drag it out into infinity and beyond. I don't. So you're pro ghost. I hate that. And I don't poof into existence. Like if I'm out for the night, like I'm out into the bitter end. Like I don't know how to exit anything. Oh really? I am a withstander. The night we met, we were the last ones at that bar. Oh my God. Get me out of a party early. That's my favorite thing to do. I withstand.

[01:04:57] No, but the problem is with ghosting is people don't stop texting you. Even if you ghost them, you still have to see their message pop up over and over and over. That bothers me. So I'd rather just cut it off. Yeah. Tell them what's up. Cut the cord. Cut the cord. Babe. All right. Ghosting. Officially out. It's out. All right. Using too many emojis. I love emojis. Same. Forever. Do you have a favorite emoji? Headband. I like the one that's like, oh.

[01:05:27] Yeah. I like that one too. Yeah. It's like the grimace emoji. I also like the like watery eyes, cute smile. I love that one. To nauseam. I use it so much. It is. Oh, it's an average. I have to actually delete it. So I'm like, I use that in the last seven. And it's supposed to be more meaningful. I know. It's not meaningful for me. It's losing meaning. It has. Stopping crying. I use that one a lot. Stopping crying. I like the melting one. Melting. I use that. I roll. I mean. Scary ghost one. Oh. Oh. Oh. Like the hot. Oh, yeah. I use that one. Yes.

[01:05:57] Mm-hmm. But I like, I love if I have a picture or something, like I love to like find the matching thing, like the food or the bow or like something that matches. Like I'm cute. I know. Very. Very. Headband. It's in. It's in. Okay. Karaoke. Headband. I love karaoke. Me too. Love karaoke. I don't do it enough. I know. What's your karaoke song? Love is a Battlefield. Ooh. Pat Benatar. That's such a great one. What about you guys? Oh, I'm lucky because I'm eternally victim.

[01:06:27] Oh my God. She's so lucky. She's a star, but she cries, cries, cries in her lonely heart. Are you kidding me? And the way I perform it is very spiritual. Okay. I'm ready. I want to witness this. I get on the ground. Let's go right now. Are you kidding me? Stop. You get on the ground. What are you guys doing tonight? Let's go. Let's go to sing, sing on Samar's. Let's text to Rhi and Jarrett to karaoke. I mean, you ain't never seen a performance like that. That would be a magical time. Kel, what's yours? Mine is A Thousand Miles by Vanessa Carlton. Do you know that song?

[01:06:56] Na, na, na, na, na. I can't walk a thousand. I don't know. Different songs. So that's a different song than what she. She goes, I would walk a thousand miles. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. That's wrong. That's wrong. No. No, she is doing da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. It's into the sky. It's a beautiful singing voice. Oh, that's. Wow. Thank you for lying straight to my face. No, you do. I like her all the time. I like that. That's what keeps the lights on. I love this show. Okay. Well, I think that's it. I don't know.

[01:07:26] The last one is not really relevant. I feel like closing it out. We won't. All right. Let's close it out. Yeah, we'll close it out on that. That felt good. That was a thorough game. We'll sing it out. It was thorough. Okay. What are we going to sing? You want to make it up? Make up our theme song. Okay. What if we each say like one word and then we kind of round robin? Oh, that sounds like too much pressure. I wish I didn't create this game. Thank you for visiting our podcast.

[01:07:56] We are so grateful for you. Beautiful. That was gorgeous, guys. That was really good, guys. Thank you. Everyone's ears bleeding now. Thank you for coming on. Literally, we're not even worthy of having me. No, we're not. We're not. Stop. Yeah, of course. You guys are iconic as well. Thank you. Stars. Thank you. Stars on the rise. No, I'm famously not. Stars on the rise. This is like my beef.

[01:08:24] We were just hoping actually by getting a little bit of your time, it would like rub off on us. Yeah, we're like osmosis in this right now. Come on. You're a winner. Yeah. Please. Yeah. Where is it going to be? No. I just always sit between two winners as the theme of this podcast. Oh. That's cool too. Friends in high places, babe. Headband. Truly so headband. It's in. We are so grateful to have had you. You are the best. So much. People are going to eat this shit up. This was like when we talked about this podcast, everyone was just like, if you don't have

[01:08:53] Parvati on this, like, why bother? This is very exciting. I love Girl Talk and I love beds. So. We'll bring more beds next time. We're only going to come from beds from now on. Yeah. We've upgraded from couch to bed. Great. All right. Love you guys. Love you. Tune in next week.

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