Talking with T-Bird: Sugar Kiper

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[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, this T-Bird you cannot change.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_14]: And things might get pretty strange.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_12]: Let's bring in the woman who is the reason for the season.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_12]: Who brings us all together. It's the great Teresa T-Bird Cooper.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_11]: Hello Rob.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, we do have a live on.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_11]: Hey Rob, how are you?

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_12]: Doing great. How are you?

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm doing well. Thank you for asking.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_11]: Very excited about our guest today.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_12]: It's been a minute since we got together for talking with T-Bird.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_12]: Even though it's been a busy summer of talking with T-Bird.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm going to catch up with Sugar.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_12]: This is very exciting.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_12]: I believe this is going to be Sugar's RHAP debut here today.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh really?

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_11]: That makes it even better.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_12]: Very exciting that she was up for coming on and getting her here today.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_12]: T-Bird, amazing.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I'm very excited about having her.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_12]: This is a fun one.

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_11]: Let's talk about Big Brother for just a minute.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_11]: For just a moment. Very quickly.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm watching it. I got pulled into it a couple years ago.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_11]: I say I'm not going to watch it and there it is.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm watching it.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_11]: I've got to say my favorite character, if you will.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Do you know who it might be?

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_12]: I think Tucker is what you're going to say.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes! How did you know this?

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_12]: We're recording this.

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_12]: Peek behind the curtain.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_12]: These are not live talking with T-Bird from when you're watching them.

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_12]: We're recording this. It's 2.40pm Eastern on Thursday.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_11]: Right.

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_12]: Buckle up T-Bird. That's all I'm going to say for tonight.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_11]: Wait, for tonight? For Thursday night?

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_11]: I'll call Rob and guess what I've got to do?

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_11]: I will be buckled up tonight because I'm flying out and leaving to go to the airport.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_12]: You heard it here for T-Bird's team Tucker.

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I'm team Tucker. You know why I think I like Tucker so much?

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_11]: I like him from the very start because I know I told you this on one of our previous talk with T-Birds.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_11]: He is a cross to me between Jim Carrey and another guy that I have never met but I love, Shane Powers.

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_12]: The cross between Jim Carrey and Shane Powers?

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, Tucker.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_11]: Do you see that at all?

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_12]: I can see it.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_12]: That's a good call.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_11]: I have to tell you Rob, last night after it was over, I text Shane.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_11]: Shane is very mysterious.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Let me just for anybody that doesn't know this.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_11]: I have him in my phone.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't aggravate Shane because Shane's not the aggravating person.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_11]: I never bother him. I never text him.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_11]: If I ever have in the past for something, he might text me back but he's busy and he probably doesn't want to be dealing with T-Bird.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_11]: I texted him last night and I said, by chance, are you watching Big Brother?

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_11]: At this point, I have to get this out.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_11]: He's got to know how I'm feeling.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_11]: He did text me back and he said, yes, I am.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Of course, I told him that I loved Tucker because he reminds me of you, Shane, and Jim Carrey.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_11]: Shane actually said he had heard that from quite a few people.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_11]: It's not just me.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_11]: I thought that was interesting.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_11]: So, we'll see what happens.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Thank you for letting me throw that in there.

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_11]: Kenny, should I stay or should I go now?

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know, Kenny.

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_12]: We'll find out.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_12]: This podcast is going to be very outdated when people listen to it potentially.

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_12]: There you go.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_12]: T-Bird, I just did want to mention that our Survivor family did have a loss since the last time we've gotten back together.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_12]: I actually saw the news from you on social media that Kim Johnson, the runner-up from your season, Survivor Africa, passed away recently.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_12]: Very sad to hear.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_11]: Mama Kim, we didn't stay in contact.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_11]: I think I mentioned to you when we were on the season of these players, you can reach out to them anytime.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_11]: I feel like I can.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_11]: There are some, of course, in our circle you stay more in touch with.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_11]: I had not known that Mama Kim had been sick.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_11]: For me, Mama Kim was one of those vibrant, energetic women.

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_11]: That's how I remembered her, of course, from our season.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_11]: Ethan is the one that let us know because he had stayed in contact with her.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_11]: They were very close out there.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_11]: I tried my best to get Mama Kim to do a girls' alliance.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_11]: I always remember that.

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_11]: It's too smart to know she was right where she needed to be.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't think I ever encountered her, even coming back through.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_12]: She was also somebody that had roots on Long Island.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_12]: But she didn't really stay involved in the Survivor circle.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_12]: She had her adventure.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_12]: You didn't see her come to a lot of those Survivor events.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_11]: Right.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm not sure that I saw her at any of them.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_11]: She had applied for a launch many, many times.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Wait a minute.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_11]: We were Season 3.

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_11]: She couldn't have applied that many times.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_11]: But I think she had applied maybe twice and wanted to do it.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Her and Ethan had such a really strong, very neat bond.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_11]: They were the final two.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't think Kim...

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_11]: Like I said, I remember talking to Kim about an all-girls alliance.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_11]: There's no way she's going to bust through Lex and Ethan and Big Tom.

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_11]: Which she wouldn't have.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_11]: But the game changes.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_11]: So there she was, the final two.

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_11]: It was a beautiful story for her.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_11]: She was a special person.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_12]: I remember one of my favorite moments was she made quite an impression on Big Tom at one point.

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_12]: With that SOS challenge.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, she called Big Tom Tommy.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_11]: She always called Big Tom Tommy.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, she did.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_11]: She was a very special lady with a family.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_11]: She was a grandma and just lots of energy.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_11]: A very cool lady.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_12]: RIP Kim Johnson.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_12]: We've got a good one for you here today.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_12]: Let's go ahead and bring in Sugar Kiper.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_12]: Of course, you can watch these on our YouTube channel as well.

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_12]: Robbswebsite.com.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_12]: Tee Bird, let's have you take it away.

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_11]: Our guest today from Brooklyn, New York appeared on the 17th season of Survivor Gabon at 29 years old.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_11]: And then would be asked back for season 20 Heroes vs. Villains.

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_11]: She was not a fan of the show and actually said, quote, I was never a fan of reality TV.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_11]: End quote.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_11]: The casting team recruited her after seeing her on a pinup calendar for a dog charity, Pinups for Pups.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_11]: She was going through a challenging time in her life.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_11]: Her hero, her dad passed away seven months prior.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_11]: She said, quote, I wasn't thinking anything.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_11]: I wasn't doing anything and had no reason to get out of bed.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_11]: And I needed a crazy adventure.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_11]: I would never be able to go on or experience.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_11]: End quote.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_11]: She also said she did survive her because she thought it might help her grow up a little bit, get thicker skin and help her deal with her father's death.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_11]: Casting sent her six seasons to binge watch.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_11]: And although she said she didn't expect to go far, it became apparent that she understood the assignment.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_11]: She ended up making it to day 39, spending 10 of those nights alone on Exile Island and still holding the record for most exile visits, which she called her, quote, spa days.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_11]: She said she couldn't have asked for a better experience out there after all she was going through at the time.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_11]: She was able to find an idol.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_11]: There was fruit in the sugar shack and the hammock there, she believed, was a sign from her dad since he had always had a hammock on his porch wherever he lived.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_11]: She was in the final three, made it to day 39 with no votes cast against her.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_11]: Although she did not win, she was a fan favorite, leaving a big impression.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_11]: And she would be asked back for heroes versus villains as a hero.

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_11]: Of course, she was voted out day three.

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_11]: She said it was not a good experience and that the game was more emotionally and mentally taxing than physical.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_11]: Playing the second time with friends made it difficult when she was betrayed by who she thought was not only a friend but an ally saying, quote, they used unnecessary roughness, end quote.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_11]: She was told by the psychologist once she left the game, quote, you are now crazy.

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_11]: Don't change where you work, who you date and where you live for the next year, end quote.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_11]: And I did all those things, she said.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_11]: She struggled but was able to get through the dark days.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_11]: Her life was full and her resume impressive before she played on Survivor.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_11]: She started her acting career age 19 in front of a live studio audience in Four Year Love, which was a mix between theater and acting.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_11]: She went on to appear in Law and Order LA, Judging Amy, Gilmore Girls as the character Jane, Angel Weeds and has had her face, voice and body as a video game character Candy Edwards in LA Noor.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_11]: In her career still prospers, she is now in the miniseries Clipped.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_11]: But it's her private life that she is most proud of.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_11]: Married to the love of her life, Nicholas, since 2016, a photographer because, quote, was a photographer without their model, end quote.

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_11]: That's cute but that's for me.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_11]: If she has her own mini me, Pucky Jean, aka PJ, her life is full.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_11]: I introduce the small but mighty spunky bubbly girl who is passionate and emotional about politics, who stands up to bullies, who is not afraid to speak her mind and a hero who was not afraid to flip off a villain.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_11]: The beautiful sassy Jessica Sugar Kiper.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that was such a sweet intro.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_05]: So many wrong things.

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_11]: Hey Sugar, what did I get wrong?

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_05]: You want a fact check for T-Bird?

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I should have taken notes because it was very hard.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I was living in Brooklyn, New York when Survivor found me on the calendar.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_05]: All that part is true, but that's not where I'm from.

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Actually was born in Florida, raised in Louisiana, moved to San Francisco at 17 when I graduated and then moved down to LA at 19.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_12]: Were you in Brooklyn ever?

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I lived there.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_05]: After my father passed, when they found me for Survivor, I was and my ex-husband at the time, we already ex-annulled.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_05]: But his father actually died three days before, three days after my dad.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_05]: And it was like he, check this out.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_05]: My dad had three and a half years of cancer, but he didn't really take care of too much stuff that he should have because he just didn't want to die.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: And then my ex-husband, Nala, who's a tattoo artist in New York.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_05]: His dad used to ride every single day on his bike to the Opera House where he worked for 10 plus years, probably more.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And one day somebody didn't look in the rear view mirror of the car, opened up the car door, tripped his bike into the street.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my God.

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_05]: He was killed by a truck three days after my dad died.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_05]: So I had moved up to New York to be with him.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's when Survivor randomly found me.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And he's actually why I did it because, well, the dog has a part of the story, but my ex-husband, Nala, we watched the tapes.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_05]: They send you like five tapes, not that old.

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_05]: But five or six seasons they sent me DVDs and China was definitely one.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_05]: And he was like, if you don't do this, you're nuts.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, I'm already nuts.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_05]: What do you think I'm doing here?

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_05]: But also, we were both nuts at the time and we were young and had just had huge losses.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And this was like a weird random thing that happened.

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And I've seen like maybe the first couple of episodes of the first season.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And when I moved to L.A., I saw the billboards for it and I was like, oh my God, this is crazy.

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I thought really people died because I came from Louisiana.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_05]: My mother was like the mother from Carrie, Mrs. White.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, like I actually thought people I thought this is the end of the world.

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Like 10 years later, weirdly, they like found me on a thing for a different show.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And for some dog training, like people live together and like America's best dog or America's favorite dog is so random.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, and my dad had just passed and so he said, you don't do this.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_05]: You're nuts. And I was like, all right, I guess I'm going to do that.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_05]: They seem like they want me. I don't understand how that happened to me.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. And and it was such a growth experience.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_05]: And like usually I say careful what you wish for guiding wish for that.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_05]: But to people who are applying, I say careful what you wish for.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, probably most people are not ready for it.

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And they also think apparently that some of its fake and it's not, you know, you guys now.

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I never thought that.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I came from acting. I was already on Gilmore Girls and other shows beforehand.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, so I didn't actually think that I thought like, you know, this is just an experience I'd already given up.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I was like done acting. I was like, maybe that's not my thing.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, and and I'd actually had, you know, really good.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I had to make out with Milo for the whole, you know, episodes, all four episodes of Gilmore Girls in the third season.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_05]: But it was Shane. That was the name.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_15]: I think I don't know what you call me for the video game.

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_05]: No, the Gilmore Girls. I don't know what you call it.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I was saying was it Shane? Shane. Shane.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_12]: Yes, Shane. I didn't even know Milo Ventimiglia was on Gilmore Girls.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, oh, my God, how does she not know that because they do know these.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. Yes. But the vibes were really good, right?

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_12]: Even if T-Bird got some facts wrong, like, oh, my God, the vibes were so good.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah. I wanted to be like, oh, oh, oh.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think I did a couple of times, but like I really couldn't keep up.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_12]: You know how you just let her cook.

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_03]: She looked it up on the Internet and that's not always accurate.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Not always accurate. Sugar. So you mentioned this.

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_11]: So I kind of want to jump into this just first only because you said, be careful what you wish for.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Because these reality shows can be debilitating once they're over with.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_11]: And I think you are, you know, you went through a lot after Heroes versus Villains.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_11]: And I was thinking about you a lot the last few weeks as I was trying to learn accurately about you, an actress.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_11]: So you're used to rejection. You were used to all that.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I know it actually really incredibly hard business and you are used to it.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_05]: But I actually had so much luck in the beginning hand so that I had never met someone.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I had never met so many people, different people.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes. And I remember the same, you know, when I was doing doing my season, the same thing, just being exposed to so many different people.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_11]: But what would you suggest for people jumping into the reality world?

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_11]: Because like I said, you had been out there even though you're only 29 when you played.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_11]: You have done so many other things. Baby.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_11]: You were a baby but you had done so many things in Hollywood.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_11]: A lot of things happen for you and I'm sure just as many things didn't come through because that's the business.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_11]: So people.

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm extremely lucky.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think I had a luck mentality in my brain still at 29.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And and recently something happened to long.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll get into that later, but like I think that at that time I and I was still kind of a go getter even there.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I was really sad and I had said I need a break from Hollywood and moved to New York for a little bit.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_05]: So I moved away from L.A. and and I was like, well, I can't do this in New York.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_05]: This is a whole different scene anyways.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And I was too sad to do anything.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And then Survivor came and it was like a weird miraculous thing.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I had no idea what I was.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I had you know, they sent the DVD.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_05]: So I had an idea of what it was like and I knew it was real or I was like prepared for it to be real.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I had no hopes that it wasn't.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I wanted that experience and that's what I got.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_05]: But also like the people experience.

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_05]: That was crazy.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_11]: What was your casting week like?

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_11]: Did you notice some of the people that you were out there playing with?

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Did you have any connection or eye contact with anybody?

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I was not like a reality person.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_05]: In fact, I said no to them originally because I had been an actor and was still feeling like I'm going to go back to it.

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_05]: But so I don't want to be seen as a reality person.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_05]: So that's originally why I said no.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Most people would just say yes to an adventure.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_05]: But I said no because of that.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And then they convinced me with the DVDs.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And that was Lynn Spillman.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Thanks, Lynn.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, like I love you. Hey, you know, just kidding.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I mostly love I don't hate her at all.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_05]: She laughed one time because I said that to everybody.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Love you, hate you all.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_05]: But I don't.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't have hate for anybody.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Not even the people I could have.

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_11]: And Sugar, I hope I got this right.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_11]: In casting, they had asked you who you thought you would like out there.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_11]: And you actually said.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. Well, in the beginning, CBS, this is so crazy.

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_05]: In the very early CBS interview, we were there in Africa and they did it there before we were allowed to talk to each other.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_05]: So we had had a glimpse of each other like at an eating situations where they're supposed to eat like scared each other and trying to size each other up.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_05]: And and it's so crazy because it's all documented.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And I have it on my like tag, my main Instagram, one of my little tag things.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_05]: This is I said Susie and I didn't know her name and Bob.

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know his name.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I said the man with the gentleman with the bow tie and he likes to draw in his little book.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_05]: And the Spanish woman who has kids is wearing a T-shirt with the kids on it.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I like her. I get a good vibe from both of those people.

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Now, I don't know if I'm psychic or if I'd already done it and got to do it again some weird metaphysical way.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_05]: But for some reason, I named the other two people before we were all able to talk to each other.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_05]: That ended up in the finale with me.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. It's pretty good.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. I don't know.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_05]: It's crazy. Am I OK?

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. Perfect. Keep it rolling, sugar. Keep it rolling.

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_11]: Are we good? So sugar.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_11]: So you were in Africa and it was only after Africa season three.

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_11]: The only other time I guess they went back to Africa was your season.

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_11]: So I remember for my did I mess that up wrong?

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_12]: No, you're right. That wasn't a no.

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_12]: That was like I didn't even put that together.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. So I don't think together because then I'm like I want to make sure you know I'm not in the first Africa.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_11]: So was it wasn't the wildlife and everything, the atmosphere and the environment just unbelievably amazing?

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_11]: It was cool.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And I wish I had I wish I had guilted Bob into that gorilla expedition.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_05]: But I actually at that time was I wanted Crystal and Kenny to go on that thing because they had not done anything yet.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And and then eventually we all ended up at that weird tribal.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_05]: This I would love to talk about the there was I'm not sure it was like towards the end.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_05]: It was like Maddie and we're all in a group to get Maddie and that's that on Remy guy.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_05]: OK, Corrine and Randy.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_05]: And then. Oh, my God, who was it?

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like there's five of us and Bob, Kenny and Charlie.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. So we went to on a thing which was the coolest thing the entire time that we were out there because it was the only time we actually got to, you know, connect with nature.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Really the people that were there, not nature.

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_05]: We were in the nature and they they they washed washed us and beat us with things.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_05]: This was a pre and they gave us clothes to wear, which I love.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, yes, me close. It was before their their spiritual like I don't know how many times a year they did it.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think it was like once or twice maybe a year that they did this thing.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, you guys don't get to see a lot of this.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_05]: This was the most intense crazy.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_05]: You get to see us watching the natives dance, eating with the natives.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_05]: But I definitely know that they cut out the part where they, you know, they had a string, you know, rice wine if we wanted.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Of course, we're many actors.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_05]: But but they also gave us this powder that was like a drug that they would take.

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they're like, look at it like that.

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_05]: This is a powder that we take.

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, they didn't say this, but before their rituals where they the men, the men and the sons, the fathers and the sons go up to a hill.

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_05]: The women stay and pray the whole time.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_05]: They take naps in between praying.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_05]: They sing and dance and pray all night.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And they have a set up in this like nice little cabana looking thing with like, you know, you like pretty little curtains and like bed.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I don't think any of them slept.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, oh, my God, I gotta go to sleep.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And right before I went to see was like Maddie because they were up all night singing and dancing.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And I and you see some of them talking just like this much.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I have no idea how much they worked on Matt Maddie before that.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_05]: But like they're all covered in red paint and they looked like the devil's devils.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_05]: They're all covered in red paint.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_05]: It was so do you know what I'm talking about, Rob?

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_12]: You know what? It didn't ring a bell for me, but I looked it up on the wiki.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_12]: And I see that. Yeah, this was you, Corinne, Charlie, Randy and Maddie went to go to go to the village.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, yes, but it was like it was like a special night.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't like something they did for us.

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Like we were allowed to go then.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't know how we were allowed to do that because that seems crazy.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I was really worried they're going to like seduce Maddie in the middle of the night.

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't think to see any of that. So sugar, your recollection is so good.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_11]: Did you ever go back? I know with the bone, did you ever go back and rewatch that whole season?

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I did, but it took years before I watched that season or the next token teams or even my other things.

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I watched them all. Like I, my husband was probably worried about me.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_12]: You watched all the Survivor seasons or you watched all?

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, I went back and I watched everything.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, we see everybody at places and I don't really completely like, oh my God, I don't know who you are.

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_05]: But like I try and keep up, Rob.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_05]: It's you know, I only do this because happenstance and this is our life now.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not it's not something I would normally have kept up with.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_12]: What made you go back and watch the first time?

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Healing, I think.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_11]: Your seasons. You're watching your season.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Even other people, Susan.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Or healing.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I was like, OK, I'm sure you know, and I and I get messages from people who are, you know, our people that come out and stuff and or they've read an article or whatever.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And they'll call me or get a message.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I get messages a lot.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Nice messages from fans like sweet messages, like people just discovering and going through it and everything.

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_05]: So I am not without love at all.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_05]: But like some of our plan will sometimes contact me and be like, hey, this shit happened to me.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Let me tell you. And so it's not just me.

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. Is it weird for you because, you know, you went through this experience and it happened in the real time and then and then it was over.

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_12]: But then at some point it started where then lots of new people started watching it for the first time.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_12]: And so for so many people there, they just experience your season like recently.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. Yeah, from the pandemic on, it's been like a really beautiful thing for me.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_05]: It's really nice because I'm like getting in and and I always really do want to help people on one day.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully I get to do that. Maybe I already did.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe that's it. But I would like to help people more.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think that that was an accidental kind of beautiful.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_11]: Have you watched since sugar? Are you still watching this?

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I have to. You do.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I have to because I go to the party.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_12]: Yes. What do you think of the new stuff?

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, our I feel like blessed, I guess, to be old school.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_12]: What happened? Oh, T-Bird. Yeah, what happened?

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_12]: She agrees with you. I really agree.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you the bell? Were you the bell before you were T-Bird on the top?

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_11]: This bell came from Rob. But go ahead. I don't want to take you off.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_05]: All right. I don't know who the bell is. We both have one.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_05]: It's confusing. Yeah, it is.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like I should go run and get my bell. Can I?

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_12]: If you if you want to.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_05]: OK, think of really good questions. OK.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_12]: I think Rob. What should we what should we ask Sugar next?

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_12]: Should we take a break and then we'll come back with sugar?

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_12]: OK, we're back with sugar. OK.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_12]: Yes. What does your bell look like?

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_11]: Yours is a cute bell. We'll smile.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_11]: OK, where were we going? I wanted her here.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_12]: Well, we wanted to hear what Sugar has to say about the new era.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_11]: New school. I mean, the new era, new era.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_05]: OK, well, I like many of the people and making friends with many of them.

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I just think I don't know what do they get clean water?

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_12]: They don't have to boil clean water. Yeah.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just pissing me off.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because I had parasites, because I came back with intestinal parasites.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And I guess I got it. I don't know.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think I had some medications.

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. And the number of days, 26 days compared to 13.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. Where you have missed you hit the.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_12]: You practically did 26 days at Exile Island.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar was was survivor helpful to you because I know when you came off

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_11]: Heroes versus Villains, you had a challenging time.

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_11]: Was were they good? I mean, I remember my experience.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_11]: They were wonderful checking in and I kept thinking, I don't know why you're checking in with me.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm fine and not realize until I got six months, nine months out.

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah. I really wasn't as fine as I thought I was.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Were they good with you with everything you went through, especially after Heroes versus Villains?

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_11]: Where you Africa, the first one or the third one.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_11]: And what season number was that? Three.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_11]: So I was in Africa, I was the other one in Africa and then you were in Africa.

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_11]: You were in season three. At Ethan one.

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my God. You I feel like you haven't even reached and you fly around all the time.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And like how can you be getting enough sleep and still look like this?

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_05]: You're so sweet. You're so sweet.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_05]: You're also nuts, though. Like this silly like Instagram.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_10]: So much energy. I have sugar. This is not this is about you.

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_03]: She doesn't like it if you turn it around back on TV.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she's amazing, right Rob?

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_05]: She is amazing. I don't know what she makes, but not enough.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_12]: Well, let's not get carried away, sugar. OK, we do want to talk some more about this.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_11]: Hold on sugar. So so how and we just we talked with Janet Carbon a few weeks ago

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_11]: and she said she had a lot of PTSD for over up to a year.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_11]: So again, I was just wondering with what you went through,

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_11]: how survivor was with you and did you have a good experience with them helping you through it?

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, here's the answer.

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I was a little bit.

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how I passed the psych test.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_05]: That's why I always say I think they want us to if you pass a test, you're not in the show.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_07]: I think they don't want to because I was very honest with my answers

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_05]: and I don't know how they let me on it because I was not in a good place to begin with.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Then after the aftermath of the first, I was very, very popular.

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I was like super famous for like 10 minutes and then

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_05]: and then back to the old grind of auditioning and everything.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And it definitely didn't help at all.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I was actually surprised when I did book stuff afterwards.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, you know, I did a few cool things afterwards.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_05]: But it was still it just I wasn't had already stopped.

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_05]: So I guess that second one was a blessing from God anyways.

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I already probably had PTSD from earlier trauma than I did, you know, and then this.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And so, I mean, I've come a long way, baby.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm feeling so great now and I'm doing like, well, not doing,

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_05]: but I'm getting very into the metaphysical stuff, you know, like not not, you know,

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not a big fan of trees, but I should because I heard it helps.

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_05]: But like, you know, well, you know, I've done a lot of stuff

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_05]: and I don't want my life to be over just because I did all the bullshit that I thought I was going to do.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_05]: And I did it. And then I realized I've already been doing this metaphysical stuff without realizing it.

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_05]: And now I am learning about it and understanding that this is like a real thing that other people do.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not just a bunch of hippies, although it is a bunch of you talk about what you're doing.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I think aliens, but it's aliens.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_12]: Can you talk a little bit more about what you're doing?

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I'm not even I mean, like, well, like poverty is doing like yoga and that's basically a very big part of that.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's but I'm just learning about it and realizing that this is a thing that I already did.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And and everything I've ever wanted has come true.

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And now I'm understanding that maybe that was just me wanting it and living a good life and getting it.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_05]: You're manifesting, manifesting, manifesting.

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I know it's crazy.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And now I'm understanding that there's a cool club that it can be part of that.

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_05]: That's it.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_11]: Do you think this is what I'm curious about?

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_11]: Do you think when you went back the second time on Heroes versus Villains, do you think what was so difficult was you were still grieving your father, your daddy,

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_11]: or you played way too soon coming off one season, throwing back in another one or because you played with friends, not strangers.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_11]: None of them are my friends.

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know anybody but JT, JT said they would take care of me and didn't.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_05]: He was literally the person that said, oh, and I know why.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And everybody else does too. That's who gives a shit.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Let's not talk about JT. I hate him.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_11]: All right. Let me ask you this then.

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't hate him.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_11]: I forgive him.

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_11]: I forgive him too.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, I thought I read that had you have stayed in the game longer on Heroes versus Villains.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, I would have manned up with all of it.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_11]: You had some alliances, some pre-aligned alliances.

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_11]: You did?

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, not a pregame alliance.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I just know that if I had made it.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_12]: T-Bird knows all about pregame alliances too.

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh no, I don't do that. I've never done that.

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't do that. I didn't even realize that it was a thing until I saw it in front of my own eyes.

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_11]: So you just really you only knew JT.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I know exactly what I'm talking about. Like, don't you?

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_05]: You know who exactly I'm talking about?

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Whatever.

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Who?

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_12]: There were pregame alliances in Heroes versus Villains.

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_12]: T-Bird, does that come across your research?

[00:37:41] No.

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not on the Internet.

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_12]: No, I just remember.

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_12]: Search the Internet, T-Bird.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_11]: I just remember thinking or reading that Sugar, because she knew JT ahead of time and again blessing blessing in a curse.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, I knew him, but I didn't really know him.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_11]: But when you go out there to such a difficult, challenging game like that, you probably gravitate to who you know or who you recognize, which obviously messed up your game.

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Wouldn't you say?

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I was told by him that he would take care of me.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I have gotten to know everybody closer and really just picked who I liked like I did the first time, because that worked out.

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_05]: And in the second Heroes and Villains, I was literally I just felt like shark dumb.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_05]: And I knew I was going to be an early out anyway, because once we saw who was on the other team, I was like, oh, cool.

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Most people I like are on the Villains team.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And I have no I don't know much about these people.

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And I guess I didn't like I guess I didn't kiss Rupert's ass enough.

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_05]: And like maybe if I had done that and like, you know, I don't know.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_12]: Well, OK, so Sugar.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_05]: What I could have done, but I felt like I was physically stronger than a couple of people.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And that I just wasn't on my game.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And I and I thought I felt a little bit protected blindly by someone who said they were going to protect me.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'll die.

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_05]: That'll be my dying breath.

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Just kidding.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_05]: That's not the last thing I'm going to think about.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll be like, I love you.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I love you.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_12]: You know, the actress and sugar.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_03]: My son mixed at my funeral.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_12]: So correct me if I'm wrong.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_12]: You were there the day that Jeff Probst announced that Survivor 50 was going to be returning players, right?

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I was not there when he was there.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you were there that day.

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_05]: OK, silly games with like fans and it was super fun.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I was terrible at all the games.

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I was super hot, sweaty and dehydrated.

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, I should have passed.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_12]: OK, I didn't realize they were going to hear the news that Jeff announced that night.

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I heard it on like Instagram, probably on Lauren's thing.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_12]: OK, so I guess first part of that.

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_12]: Sure, T-Bird is curious to know.

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_12]: Would you consider going back to Survivor?

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_05]: To be definitely shark tom.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_05]: No, thank you.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_12]: OK, all right.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_12]: I just wanted to get that out of the way.

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_12]: People are probably curious.

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_12]: We do.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_12]: We do.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_12]: But Sugar, that I would love to know that you went and you played right before in season 17.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_12]: Then you come back very soon after that to play in Heroes versus Villains.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_12]: Do you have advice for people who may have played in these last couple of seasons that might not know what they're getting into for Survivor 50?

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_05]: They're going to bring all the old school shit back, don't you, Ron?

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't think that they're going to bring that many people back from the old school.

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_12]: Jeff is.

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_12]: My question was geared more towards people that have played recently and are going to come back.

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's what I'm saying.

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, are you saying that you think 50 they're going to bring back all the old school stuff and make the little babies play?

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, I don't think they're going to do that.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_12]: I think it's going to be the same as what they've been doing.

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_05]: That's what they should do because everybody in the first old school are, you know, older and more mature.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_05]: This is what they should do.

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_12]: Veterans.

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_05]: You have their number, Ron. Contact them.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_12]: Yes.

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Sugar, can you play old school Survivor?

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll see how they fare.

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, what do you think the theme should be for Survivor 50?

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I have not prepared.

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't think of that possible question.

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, if we're doing well, something to do with maybe what I just said.

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, I'm going to show you sugar when you were on the bone.

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_11]: You spent a lot of time at the sugar shack.

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_11]: So I was curious and no fruit is was fruit was plentiful.

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_11]: How much weight did you lose on the bone for 39 days?

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_11]: Do you know in our camps?

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_11]: How much weight did you lose?

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and a half pounds, which was the 13 and a half pounds that I already gained from drinking too much after being super sad that my dad passed.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_05]: So when I came off, I looked exactly like I had normally.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_05]: So me, it was never, you know, I was just like, oh, and then exactly as soon as I got off, I would go eat as much lobster and dessert.

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I was eating everybody else's leftovers.

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_05]: My friends were concerned.

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_05]: They were like, are you on drugs?

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, no, I've been starving.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I just want the rest of the dessert.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I just ate so much.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I gained it all back like that, like within a week and a half or two weeks.

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't think that's something I think that's pretty common.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_11]: So sugar, a really beautiful, beautiful part of the show was when they showed you and I believe it's your sister, Nadia.

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_11]: It's your sister, Nadia, that came out to visit you.

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Rina, I'm going to take some notes later after this.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_11]: So so when you when you spread your dad's some of your dad's ashes in Africa, that was a beautiful, beautiful moment.

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_11]: And I would imagine it was for you as well.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. And then I had not thought about how we put it right there where we gather our water because everybody is too lazy to go to the stream.

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, we all drank my dad.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, OK. Well, I would really go in that direction and that's what happened.

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't hit the bell. I said that's what happened.

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_11]: That's kind of beautiful.

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Now there are water.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Nobody is walking a mile to the stream to get the fresher water.

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And so I don't think so.

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, was it your sister that was with you?

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. My sister, Rina.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Rina, who's Nadia?

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_11]: I have no idea.

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_12]: She was on Survivor San Juan del Sur.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_11]: No, I mean, no.

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_12]: That's Natalie's sister.

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_11]: OK. So Rina came out.

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_11]: Are you still close with Rina? With your sister?

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, my God. Yeah. I'm going to one of her daughter's weddings in September.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_05]: We fly back. Louisiana. Louisiana. She's in Louisiana.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_11]: OK. All right.

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_11]: And who do you still stay in touch with?

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Or if anybody on your seasons?

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of people from many seasons, Bob, Susie, Maddie.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I have talked with many other people from our season.

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and Jackie and Ace.

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I try and stay in touch with them on the other people online.

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_05]: But these are people I've had conversations with.

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_12]: What about beyond Gabon?

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_12]: Who are the survivor people that you talk to most regularly?

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Most regularly?

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_05]: The most I talk to is probably Jackie and Bob.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_12]: OK.

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, but I talk to them each every few months, so please, you know.

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Maddie came over last year.

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. How is Maddie doing?

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_12]: I feel like Maddie is pretty off the grid.

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he hates Survivor. Like he has nothing to do with it.

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_05]: He got found in a Whole Foods by when.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, never, you know, and he didn't grow into it like I did,

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_05]: like wanting to be a part of it or enjoying other people.

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Like he's missing out a lot, I think.

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_05]: But he's good.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_05]: He's still working out and being a he does yoga classes.

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_05]: You can find him online.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow. Yeah.

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_05]: If you're in Malibu, you can go take his workout classes.

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_02]: OK.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_11]: And Sugar, were you really drawn toward, of course, Maddie?

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_11]: Because he felt like a brother to you and then Bob, because he felt like a dad to you.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_11]: So you were kind of torn with your relationship with both of them during the game, weren't you?

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, completely. And I love them both immensely.

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And I mean, Maddie never I was never physically attracted to Maddie.

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I always thought of him as like your brother because he seemed younger than me,

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_05]: even though we might have been the same age.

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_05]: But maybe he was younger. He just felt younger.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And and he was very California.

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, we did connect in that way because, like, we have a lot of similar things that we like.

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_05]: But and Bob, you know, I had lost my dad.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_05]: So I and he was the only thing is from the get go.

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Bob was like building things and teaching us how to do stuff.

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_05]: So, of course, he was a big guy.

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, it was it was really hard because I really saw myself during the game.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_05]: At the end of the game, I decided I wanted to be Bob and Maddie.

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's why I'm saying maybe I'm psychic because I never wanted and I love Susie,

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_05]: but I didn't want to be the top three with us, even though I knew I'd lose either of the guys.

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_05]: But but I don't know.

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I said, that was the only option because she won that challenge.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_05]: So like I couldn't choose.

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And so we did the fire thing.

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And and I think that was that was good bonus choice or the fire story or God's choice or whatever.

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I knew that I couldn't vote for Maddie just because I knew he'd already had a million dollars before and wasn't going to do much good with another.

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_12]: He had a million dollars.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you know, know that Maddie's from a very rich like no, I didn't know.

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_05]: His great grandfather is like a super huge, gigantic guy.

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_05]: He comes from money and Bob had like three kids.

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_05]: So I and I didn't want and like and I was close and Bob was on the other team.

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_05]: He wasn't like, you know, at that time, Maddie was the closest to me.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_05]: That's why I was a material.

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_05]: But I knew that Maddie probably would have just done something bad with that.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Bob did great stuff with that and like, you know, made like a yurt business and you can go do survival challenges at his place sometimes.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, you know, he's a lot of fun and good that, you know, he had three kids to take care of.

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Maddie had no responsibilities and that would have given him even less.

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_05]: So that's why I was like, I'm going to make this call.

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_11]: Hey, Rob, this might be a good time for that clip.

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_12]: Hey, you know this guy?

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_11]: He looks familiar.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Sugar, we miss you.

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_08]: How's Bunkie doing?

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_08]: They asked me to shoot you a little video.

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_08]: We haven't had tea.

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think we've seen you for four or five years.

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Next time we're out visiting David in L.A., we'll,

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Ordondo Beach, we'll give you a call.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Take you out to supper.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Birdie, stop scratching and say hello.

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, surprise.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Hey, Sugar, I'm right behind Bob.

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, surprise Peggy.

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Listening to what he's doing.

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_09]: But both Bob and I have a soft spot in our heart for you and we think of you often.

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_09]: And hopefully next time we get out to California, we'll see you.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_09]: All my best.

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Hey, love you girl.

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Bye bye now.

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_08]: All right, there you go.

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, you got it to happen.

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, you should have run your bail on that one.

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_11]: Hitch a bail.

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_11]: It doesn't work?

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, Sugar, what special people they are.

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_11]: I love them.

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_11]: What special people they are.

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_11]: Bob and Peggy are the best.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I really do miss them.

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Like he is like a father, more kind of grandfather.

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Like they're the grandparents I really never had.

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, they're super sweet.

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_11]: And when you see one, you see the other.

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_11]: What did you say, Sugar?

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, what did you say?

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_12]: Made her cry.

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_12]: Made her cry.

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_12]: Sugar, a lot of times people love Gabon.

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_12]: People talk about it, people rewatch it.

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_12]: Are you aware that people just really connect with that season?

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I do actually.

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I get a lot of messages.

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_05]: So I do know anybody who's lost someone in one of those seasons usually.

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, not everybody.

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I hope more than that.

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_05]: But I get nice messages where they identified and it helped them.

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_05]: And maybe even at the time that they needed help.

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Which I really thank God for.

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_05]: That's really nice.

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Super joked up right now.

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I got a really bad rep for a long time.

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, that's been like a nice thing.

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I think somebody came off of it being a real nasty person and kept being nasty for so long.

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And it kind of like put a little shadow on our little season there.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_05]: But in the end, good wins.

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_05]: And it did come out.

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_05]: And people who watch that season actually do really appreciate it.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Plus it's such a weird season.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_12]: Well, yeah, it's a very unusual season for sure.

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_12]: And like it goes like all over the place.

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_12]: It's very unpredictable in terms of like how it turned out.

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_12]: A lot of people were saying that this most recent season of Survivor was like similar to Gabon.

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_12]: Did you hear that at all?

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, yeah, I won this last season.

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Didn't you see?

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, finally, I won.

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Somebody else that I think wants to say a little something to you, Rob.

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, sugar, it's your girl, probably your worst friend of me, Crystal.

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully all is well.

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I hope all is well with you and your family.

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I see that your little girl is getting so big.

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You are still out here doing the thing, girl.

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I am following you and tracking you on social media.

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You keep doing big things.

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You take care and we'll be in touch soon.

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Take care. Bye bye.

[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, there you go.

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_12]: You know what? I thought Crystal hated me.

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_12]: No, she said friend of me.

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_11]: I never thought of her as an enemy.

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, I reached out to her and she immediately got back to me said, yes, I absolutely want to say something to sugar.

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, Crystal, I love you.

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_05]: She said some things on podcast before that I was like, here she like I thought she would have my back.

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I probably do need a poker check right now, Crystal.

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_12]: Everything looks OK from this vantage point.

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_12]: All right.

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar. So now I want to ask, I know you have because you keep putting your arms up.

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Super my heart on my knees.

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_11]: So your tattoo, your tattoos.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_11]: So I think you had several tattoos before Survivor.

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_11]: OK, right.

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_11]: So this is a Tina Wesson question she wants us to ask how many how many tattoos did you get or if you got any after Survivor representing Survivor?

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I have a big one on my back, but I'm wearing a one piece bathing suit.

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_05]: So you were you going swimming today or were you like, yeah, well, me, I'm having two of my friends and their daughters who are my daughter's best friends.

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_05]: So, yes. And the reason that you don't hear punky Jean is because she is bowling right now with one of my mom friends who offered.

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_05]: I said, well, you guys want to come swimming later?

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And she's like, yeah, we want to go bowling.

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_05]: You have that podcast.

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, that's right.

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_05]: How did you remember that?

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Because I am I have like a wall calendar.

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't put things in my phone and like so glad to you were like messaged me, but I did.

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I was going to remember.

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. So they're they're gone bowling because we're in a little bowling club thing.

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_05]: We like signed up for the bowl.

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, come back to me.

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Come back.

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_11]: Your tattoo on your back.

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_11]: Is it from a survivor?

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, OK.

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_11]: Hold up.

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_11]: OK, there you go.

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Is it from a survivor?

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, it is.

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, my God.

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if I can do like maybe we can take a break and I'd do it later.

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_05]: It's it's well, originally I had before I was sugar from Survivor.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I was sugar the 50s diner waitress and my first husband, the one that convinced me to do the show.

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_05]: He did put sugar on my lower back before we realized it was called a tramp stamp.

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And then when that movie came out, I was like, no, no.

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_05]: So why?

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Because it's sugar and it just looks like I'm a stripper named Sugar.

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_05]: But I've never been a stripper.

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I played one in a movie, but I've never been like this is not the thing.

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_05]: So instead, now I have like a sailor Jerry.

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a it's a pirate pirate ship and a sailor Jerry blonde girl topless.

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_05]: It's on my back. Yeah, whatever.

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's from Survivor.

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_03]: He's not flipping off the bird.

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I could have had that.

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_12]: That would have been iconic.

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_12]: But you know what?

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking about putting coconuts on it.

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I'm thinking about it.

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_05]: My husband says no, then you'll regret that.

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_05]: You'll be like, why did I ever put those coconuts on?

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, because like then it will be iconic if I make it to like 85 and grandma, great grandma has sits on her back still.

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Sweet.

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I like it.

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm going to say I'm going to jump off the tattoo, go over Jeff Probst.

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, give me one more to describe Jeff Probst.

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Go get her.

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, OK.

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_05]: You got you guys saw his audition reel, right?

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I kind of like him more after seeing that.

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_05]: What reel was it, Sugar?

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_05]: It was like his audition reel of his stuff he had hosted before to give to, you know, Mark and then what's happening here?

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, do you think anybody could replace Jeff Probst?

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I know a few people I'd put in, like, you know, if they wanted us to give in names.

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_05]: No, no.

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_05]: He dies, the show dies.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my God.

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, so another 50 years it is.

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, it'd be like 45.

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_05]: We can do it.

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_11]: So who are some of the names you throw out there if Probst didn't die, but just decided he was going to take some time off in CG?

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't mean to be dark.

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_03]: You weren't dark.

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, Jeff.

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't mean that like that.

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_05]: You're not watching this.

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, Lauren seems to be Lauren Ashley Buck seems to be fabulous.

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I think she's kicked out.

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_05]: OK, I love watching her.

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_05]: We all do.

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_05]: She's like, like, like her.

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_05]: You can find these people sleep with like, wow, so much energy.

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you guys are giving us a lot, you know, and we're not even paying for it.

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I love it.

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I met her down here in Atlanta.

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_11]: She is a sweetheart.

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_11]: I was on TV recently and Barry Townsend thought what we was doing.

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you know that show clipped with Oda O'Neil and Jackie Weaver?

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_05]: And oh my God, he played the main well, not the main dude.

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, the L.A. Clippers show.

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Lauren. Yeah, I get to play Marilyn Monroe impersonator.

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Weird. It was like the strangest thing because after I came back

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_05]: after years of not acting, then we had covid and then we had the strike.

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_05]: But right before the strike at the very tail end of covid, somehow I managed to book work.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_05]: So they showed me a few times.

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_05]: But but I don't close up real close up to close up sugar.

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_11]: So I see a lot of your stuff on this.

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, I see all your stuff on Instagram.

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_11]: But I thought it was ironic that we're having you on Marilyn Monroe's passing was what?

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_11]: August 5th, just a day or two days ago.

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_11]: And I was so curious.

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_11]: I know you do a lot of a lot of parties and different things.

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_11]: Do you do more work impersonating Marilyn Monroe?

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Because that's what I think of you.

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_11]: You've got the look down completely.

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_11]: It's fabulous. So do you do more with that?

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_11]: And then I'm curious, what is the strangest, weirdest, oddest request

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_11]: you have done had done for somebody that wasn't a Marilyn Monroe impersonator to come in?

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, I've been doing it since I was 17 professionally.

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_05]: My first impersonation was at 15 and like a school talent show.

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I've been doing it on and off in between TV work and like,

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I thought I didn't never want to go back to Maryland.

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_05]: But like, it's really good money, believe it or not.

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Like everybody makes the same amount of money.

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't I'm not saying I overcharge because I charge my wife.

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_05]: So I make three to five hundred dollars an hour to do that.

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's not I don't do it maybe what I do it like once a month, usually if I get lucky, I get to.

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_05]: But I also am sugar and don't pay my bills or anything.

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_05]: So daddy wants me to keep that money.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_10]: Sugar. Did they ask you?

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_10]: He's seven months younger than me. He's really gorgeous.

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar. Did they ask you to do the Marilyn Monroe singing Happy Birthday to the president?

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_10]: Have you gotten that request? Yeah.

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_11]: OK, can you give us please? I mean, Rob, can you pay her three to five hundred dollars for this?

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_11]: T-Bird. Oh, he's not paying.

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_12]: He gave it to you. You get it. OK. Wait, hold on.

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be big stuff. What? Rob, are you ready for this?

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm not going to say anything to any of this.

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_11]: OK, here we go.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_11]: All right. We're ready. Go.

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_11]: Happy birthday. You can do it now.

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_07]: You can sing. Whose birthday is that?

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_11]: The president's. You're doing the person.

[01:03:09] [SPEAKER_05]: OK. Yeah. Well, actually, my friend said I have a gig at the Roosevelt Saturday night.

[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_05]: My friend said you should do a video for Happy Birthday, Mrs. President.

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, oh my God, I should.

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_12]: Kamala Harris has the same birthday as me.

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_12]: What? Yeah. October 20th.

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_10]: OK, hold on. That's very cool.

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, that is pretty cool.

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_11]: Hey, sure. Guess who I have. Don't you have a side birthday? A Snoop Dogg?

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, sure. Don't you Rob?

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_11]: Eddie's got the same birthday as Snoop Dogg.

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_12]: Little competition there. Those are all famous.

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_12]: October 20th birthday.

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_11]: Do not distract Sugar right now.

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_11]: I want to see her Marilyn Monroe impersonation.

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, I really want to see that.

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_12]: Dustin Hoffman.

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_05]: OK, Dustin Hoffman has the same birthday as you?

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_12]: No, Dustin Hoffman's birthday is today.

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, well, today is also like 8 8

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_05]: 2024, which is also 8 8.

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_05]: It's supposed to be some special thing for everybody.

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_05]: But also today, since you mentioned Marilyn's memorial the other day,

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_05]: because they do it every year.

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_05]: This fan club I'm in. Marilyn remembered in case you guys are Marilyn fans.

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Go join it.

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_05]: So we do a memorial every year.

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And today is the actual day.

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_05]: August 8th is when she was buried. OK, OK.

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Three days after her.

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, I think it's kind of interesting that we're doing this interview on the 8th.

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_11]: How things come around.

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Hey, so do you know a lot about Marilyn Monroe, right?

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, not as much as a lot of people that I do know.

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_11]: And so I just want to ask a couple of little trivia questions.

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, OK.

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_11]: She was. And then I'm going to hopefully see if she'll do the impersonation of the birthday song.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_11]: OK, so the first thing is the subway dress.

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_11]: OK, sugar. Yeah.

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_11]: I'll just ask you who purchased the subway dress?

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_11]: The first person to purchase a subway dress.

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_11]: Let's see about nine years after Marilyn Monroe's death in 1971.

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_11]: I am going to guess.

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Blanket on her name, even though she's doing more.

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_05]: OK, Princess Leia's mother. I can't remember.

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_11]: That's right. That's right.

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_11]: Debbie Reynolds. Debbie Reynolds. That's right.

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_05]: That's right. Yes.

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_05]: OK.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_05]: How much did she famous enough so I don't have to say the name?

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I can just be like that.

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Sugar, how much did she purchase it for?

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, that's tough, T-Burn.

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_11]: No, it's not. Sugar's got this.

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_11]: How much?

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_11]: It was back in 1971. Debbie Reynolds purchased it.

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to say. Oh, I have a few numbers in my head.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Thirty two thousand. I want to say sixty five thousand.

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_11]: You're going to believe this.

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_11]: Two hundred dollars.

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, shut the fuck up.

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_11]: Two hundred dollars.

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Now after she sold it after that for I don't even know how much, but

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I have a few up there.

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I have like six or seven famous people's clothing,

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_05]: but they're not like special ones from certain like from things.

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just like I do love Julian's auctions and I do have a Betty White.

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the one I paid the most for a Betty White jacket.

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll wear it one day on like a Christmas day.

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to be a little bit of a

[01:06:55] I don't know if I'm going to be able to do that.

[01:06:56] I'm going to have to wear a new carpet.

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_11]: This is my last Marilyn Monroe question.

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_11]: I think because I was fast fascinated with her just because of all

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_11]: the stuff you've done with her and as her.

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_11]: How many hours did it take to film the subway scene?

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_11]: And how many takes did they have?

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, they filmed it in L.A.

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_05]: They actually filmed it on the sound stage in L.A., but they did go to New York

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_05]: and do that in front of like a live crowd, which also very much

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_05]: upset Joe DiMaggio and was part of the downfall of their relationship.

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm sure there are many factors involved.

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_05]: But I

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_05]: well, they didn't have to film the scene in New York.

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_05]: So well, I mean, it took about six or seven hours,

[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_05]: but I don't think that they were actually filming the whole time.

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_11]: Right. I was at the corner of Lexington Avenue in 52nd Street in Manhattan.

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_11]: And if this is accurate, who knows?

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_11]: Three hours with 14 takes, three hours with 14 takes,

[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_11]: which doesn't really seem like very many. Oh, actually.

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_05]: But anyway, maybe they didn't include like the crowd gathering

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_05]: and then the baby. Exactly. Very true.

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, that wasn't even a scene that they needed to film. Yeah.

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just like for fun. They could have they could have

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_05]: they had already done it. They they redid it.

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And then it was mostly for publicity.

[01:08:32] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, do you feel like you should have been born in a different era,

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_11]: like the 50s? I used to think that.

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_05]: But now I'm just very happy that I am where I am,

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_05]: even though technology scares the crap out of me.

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And like it's I am one of those old people that have seen

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, no offense to everybody because we're not really old, but like

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_05]: seen and then they said the same thing.

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_05]: The older people when I was growing up before we even had cell phones,

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_05]: they were saying the same thing. TV and, you know,

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_05]: everything that came up during their time period.

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_05]: But wow, we're moving fast. It's a little scary.

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Like especially how kids are on the Internet and Instagram

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_05]: and and stuff all the time.

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And like they feel like that's a they need that

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_05]: the likes or they need that love from people they don't even know.

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And then fame and these people, Internet people, they're all fickle.

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like really not important to do that.

[01:09:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Please focus your lives on the people that you love,

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_05]: what you want to do, who you are and do that stuff.

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Don't focus on like likes or or trying to, you know, I'm

[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I've never done anything when I was dating David Faustino.

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_05]: He asked me if I wanted him to buy me likes.

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow. And I said no, that's right.

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_05]: You've worked with.

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's like I'm not for my friends.

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, no. Oh, yes, of course.

[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_05]: But they did so many people I watched on TV growing up.

[01:10:04] [SPEAKER_05]: But it was weird when I worked with Ed O'Neill.

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_05]: That was an accident.

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Because my hand was like, yeah, when I worked with that, O'Neill,

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_05]: that was like, hey, I was like I dated David like.

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And in the one day that we really talked the first time we really talked,

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_05]: it was while Christina Applegate was doing her

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_05]: star on Hollywood Boulevard and, you know, she's taken everything.

[01:10:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And so we talked about that, but he wasn't able to go because he was filming.

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, man, they would have shot her out.

[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_05]: She knew that whatever.

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_05]: So he was on set instead of there.

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_05]: But he would have liked to be there.

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, I think this is a great place for us to stop.

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_11]: I love that you mean your social media is so positive,

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_11]: so energetic and like you said, I think there's a lot of negativity

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_11]: that comes out, but yours is certainly just the opposite.

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_11]: So, you know, thank you.

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_11]: Thank you. Thank you for all that.

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_11]: Thank you so much for being with us.

[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_11]: I've been wanting to talk to you for so long.

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_11]: I know you want to get to your pool party.

[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, they're not. I'm good.

[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_11]: But I will let them sign me out.

[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_12]: I was so happy that you wanted to come on and talk with us

[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_12]: that a T-Bird was saying like we should get sugar.

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know. I don't know if sugar is going to want to talk

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_12]: and do an interview.

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_12]: And I'm so happy that you did.

[01:11:33] [SPEAKER_05]: You guys didn't even ask me about the things I didn't want to talk about.

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_05]: And so thank you.

[01:11:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you know what?

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I'm really happy that you had a good experience.

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_12]: And that's really, you know, what we hope that these episodes are.

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. I was very scared. I did say to her, I don't like doing podcasts.

[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, because I'm very truthful and sometimes I'm too truthful

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_05]: and it's weird to people.

[01:12:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Sugar, you're fascinating.

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_04]: But I really don't want to be called weird lately.

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm out of that group. I loved it before.

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Now I don't like it. No more weird.

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, this is the word. This is the phrase.

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, this is the word.

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm definitely in the other group.

[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, what I've got, the word or the phrase that I have for you

[01:12:20] [SPEAKER_11]: is you're beautifully eccentric.

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_11]: Thank you. Oh, I do like it.

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_11]: You are. You're beautifully eccentric.

[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_11]: You're positive.

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_11]: And do you want to tell us where I know you're on social media

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_11]: and I know you do cameos.

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_11]: Do you want to tell us where they can find you?

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm Kiper.

[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, wait, don't.

[01:12:43] [SPEAKER_05]: That's my email. Never mind.

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't get that out.

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm at Sugar Kiper.

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar, and you do cameos.

[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_11]: And you do cameos, right?

[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_11]: I do cameos.

[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_11]: So people can find you.

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_11]: Hey, Sugar.

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_11]: Okay.

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_11]: So now give us a little close out.

[01:13:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Happy birthday to the president, Marilyn Monroe.

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_07]: Happy birthday to you.

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Happy birthday to you.

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Happy birthday, Mrs.

[01:13:29] [SPEAKER_06]: President.

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Happy birthday to you.

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_11]: Fantastic.

[01:13:42] [SPEAKER_11]: Beautiful.

[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Thank you.

[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_12]: Thank you, Sugar.

[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_12]: So much sugar.

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_12]: All right.

[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_12]: There you have it.

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_12]: Sugar Kiper.

[01:13:49] [SPEAKER_12]: T-Bird.

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_12]: That was a very fun one.

[01:13:54] [SPEAKER_11]: Like I said, beautifully eccentric.

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_11]: She really is.

[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_12]: I think what I really enjoy about Sugar is that she's going to say what she's feeling.

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_12]: And you don't always get that in the reality TV world.

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_12]: Some people are going to be fake and phony, and that's not Sugar.

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_11]: No.

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_11]: Sugar is not fake and phony at all.

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_11]: And for anybody not following Sugar on Instagram, her post and all of her things are so uplifting

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_11]: and just she's a really fun person.

[01:14:26] [SPEAKER_11]: So I've been wanting to have her own for quite some time.

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_11]: So I hope all of her fans, which I know she's got a lot, will enjoy.

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_12]: And we appreciate her being here and taking the chance to come on with us.

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_12]: I think it turned out great.

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_12]: All right.

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_12]: T-Bird.

[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_12]: People can keep up with the all of the talking with T-Birds.

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_12]: You can go to Rob's website at com slash T-Bird feed.

[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_12]: What else is coming up for you besides Big Brother tonight?

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, but I won't be able to watch Big Brother.

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_12]: Nobody spoiled T-Bird on Big Brother.

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, don't spoil me on Big Brother tonight.

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know what's going to happen, but I think it's got something to do with Tucker.

[01:15:01] [SPEAKER_11]: Not sure.

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_11]: But wish me luck.

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm telling you, this has been the summer of this crazy summer travel, the IT glitch, Hurricane Little Debbie.

[01:15:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Hurricane Little Debbie.

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_12]: Yep.

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_11]: It's making landfall.

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_11]: So get out of the summer and then Survivor next month.

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_12]: I know coming up T-Bird.

[01:15:19] [SPEAKER_12]: We're a little less than a month away from Survivor 47, if you can believe it.

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_11]: So when will the cast be introduced?

[01:15:27] TBD.

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_11]: Okay.

[01:15:29] [SPEAKER_11]: TBD.

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_11]: So are you more busy?

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_11]: So then that's when you really pick up with being busy, right?

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_12]: Well, it'll be busy because we'll have a little overlap with Survivor and Big Brother for sure.

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_11]: Okay.

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_12]: Almost like a month.

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[01:15:41] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, you're going to be super busy.

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_12]: Super busy.

[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_12]: But look, this is the great pleasure of my career is to get to do this.

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_12]: So I'm not going to complain.

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_11]: And job security.

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_12]: Yes.

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_12]: I appreciate that too.

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_11]: And then one more thing I want to know.

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_11]: How does Taron round the clock?

[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_11]: Is he like watching live feeds around the clock?

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_11]: How does he do all this?

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_12]: T-Bird, he's a robot.

[01:16:08] [SPEAKER_12]: That's what they say.

[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Sorry.

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_11]: All right.

[01:16:12] [SPEAKER_12]: T-Bird, anything else?

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_11]: No.

[01:16:15] [SPEAKER_12]: All right.

[01:16:15] [SPEAKER_12]: Thank you so much for joining us.

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_12]: Take care everybody.

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_12]: We got some more good Talking With T-Birds coming up this summer.

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_12]: So make sure you stay tuned.

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[01:16:23] [SPEAKER_12]: Take care of a good one.

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_12]: Bye.

[01:16:25] [SPEAKER_15]: Bye.

[01:16:25] [SPEAKER_15]: Bye.