Talking with T-Bird: Christine Shields Markoski
Survivor 46 RHAPAugust 11, 20231:21:06

Talking with T-Bird: Christine Shields Markoski

In the sixty-first episode of “Talking with T-Bird,” Rob and T-Bird’s welcome Survivor: South Pacific castaway Christine Shields Markoski.

[00:00:03] If you stay here and listen, Your life will never be the same

[00:00:16] Cause we're talking with T-Bird now

[00:00:21] This T-Bird you cannot change, Oh, This T-Bird you cannot change

[00:00:36] And things might get pretty strange

[00:00:42] Yeah, that's right, Talking With T-Bird is back once again

[00:00:48] And today we're talking with Survivor South Pacific's Christine Shield-Marcoski

[00:00:53] And here is the woman who rounds up all the survivors we want to hear from

[00:00:59] It's Teresa T-Bird Cooper

[00:01:02] Hey Rob

[00:01:03] T-Bird, how are you?

[00:01:05] I'm great Rob, I actually just got off my treadmill because you can only imagine how excited I am

[00:01:10] about getting Christine Shield-Marcoski on here today

[00:01:13] Okay, well excited

[00:01:15] Excited to hear how excited you are

[00:01:18] Of course we are coming off of Talking With T-Bird

[00:01:21] Got a lot of feedback on from, we talked to Greg Tarzan Smith from Survivor One World

[00:01:29] Yes, We each, yes we did

[00:01:32] I got different comments from different people thinking about different things

[00:01:35] Greg was interested, excuse me, Tarzan

[00:01:38] Dr. Smith, Dr. Smith

[00:01:40] Yes, one we'll never forget with Dr. Smith last time out

[00:01:45] But here we are and back together

[00:01:48] T-Bird I'm interested to know from you

[00:01:51] I know you occasionally dabble in the Big Brother

[00:01:54] Have you been keeping an eye on Big Brother 25 this season?

[00:01:57] Okay, so Rob, I am so glad you asked me about that

[00:02:00] Yes, I've told you this in the past

[00:02:02] I started jumping on the Big Brother train late when the Delta Flight Attendant

[00:02:07] The former Delta Flight Attendant, Bailey, was on

[00:02:10] That's when I started watching, then I was hooked

[00:02:13] Like, I guess a lot of people once they start watching

[00:02:16] So yes, I am watching it

[00:02:18] And it's interesting because Christine, our guest today

[00:02:23] Played Survivor where she had two former players come back in

[00:02:28] And which we know she wasn't having it

[00:02:30] She wasn't having two former players come back and steal her thunder

[00:02:34] Yes, famously she referred to coach as a temporary player

[00:02:39] Yes, a temporary player

[00:02:42] Yes, he did, he heard it loud and clear

[00:02:46] So I was so fascinated when of course I saw Sarri

[00:02:51] Coming to Big Brother House because I'm thinking

[00:02:54] Like Christine was thinking

[00:02:56] Wait a minute, not only is this not a Big Brother player

[00:03:00] This is a Survivor player coming in our Big Brother House

[00:03:04] So I was thinking they are not going to be liking that at all

[00:03:08] So I'm really interested to see how this plays out for her

[00:03:12] What do you think?

[00:03:13] How's it going to play out for Sarri?

[00:03:15] Yes

[00:03:16] I think it's going to go pretty well

[00:03:18] We'll see

[00:03:19] We'll see

[00:03:20] Because I think that Sarri is like the people who know

[00:03:25] Who she is is going to be, she'll be beloved

[00:03:28] Like coach had to really set up a whole structure

[00:03:32] Of making sure that people, he demanded loyalty from the people

[00:03:37] That he was with

[00:03:38] Yes, and you know what, so Rob, I actually talked to Randy

[00:03:42] Randy Baylent

[00:03:43] Oh, how's Randy doing?

[00:03:44] Randy, oh he's doing great

[00:03:45] Him and I are about as opposite as we can be

[00:03:47] I love him dearly

[00:03:49] He, I like to get his feedback on stuff

[00:03:52] So I actually talked with him yesterday about what he thought

[00:03:55] He's a Big Brother fan

[00:03:56] What he thought about Sarri being in the Big Brother House

[00:03:59] And I was telling him my thoughts about her coming in

[00:04:03] And kind of from another, from Survivor and how they think about that

[00:04:07] And he actually said the same thing

[00:04:10] Kind of the same thing I was saying

[00:04:13] I think he said he gives her

[00:04:16] Hope I get this right

[00:04:18] You know if I don't he's going to correct me

[00:04:20] Yeah

[00:04:21] But he actually referenced, now this I do remember

[00:04:23] He actually referenced when he played with Boston Rob

[00:04:26] Right

[00:04:27] Because my thought is these people need to go

[00:04:30] But even when he played with Boston Rob

[00:04:32] He kept telling everybody

[00:04:34] Do you really want Boston Rob to stay in here?

[00:04:37] And they loved him and they gravitated towards them

[00:04:41] You know, anyone so

[00:04:43] I don't know, Sarri might be the same

[00:04:45] Maybe the same exact way

[00:04:47] Yeah

[00:04:48] It'll be interesting to see

[00:04:49] Andy also was with Sarri at Ponderosa

[00:04:53] In Heroes vs Villains

[00:04:54] Yeah

[00:04:55] So I think he probably is pretty tapped into

[00:04:57] You know how good she is

[00:04:59] So, alright, interesting to get that feedback

[00:05:01] Alright

[00:05:02] T-Bird

[00:05:03] We've got Christine on the line

[00:05:06] Are you ready to bring her in?

[00:05:07] Oh yes indeed

[00:05:08] I'm ready to bring her in

[00:05:09] Alright, here we go

[00:05:10] Our guest today played on Season 23

[00:05:13] Survivor South Pacific

[00:05:14] This then 39 year old mother of two

[00:05:17] Born in Queens, New York has been called one of the greatest

[00:05:20] And toughest pre-merge competitors ever

[00:05:23] Jack Probe's telling her quote

[00:05:25] You're becoming a legitimate force

[00:05:28] End quote

[00:05:29] This English teacher born to a Mexican mother

[00:05:31] And an Irish father who is fluent in Spanish

[00:05:34] Was hooked when she saw the first show

[00:05:37] She would be perfect for the game

[00:05:39] She had lots of experience in the wilderness

[00:05:41] And grew up camping and backpacking

[00:05:43] In remote areas of the world

[00:05:45] She swam, biked, ran and did sprint triathlons

[00:05:49] Her son shot her video

[00:05:51] She knew she had to get casting to notice her

[00:05:54] She would have to win them over

[00:05:56] So what better way than calling out the casting department

[00:05:59] On how they quote sucked at their job

[00:06:02] Since they had cast players who had quit

[00:06:05] She went on to say quote

[00:06:08] If she did her job as poorly as they did their job

[00:06:12] She'd be fired

[00:06:14] End quote

[00:06:15] She was cast

[00:06:17] The strong-willed outspoken woman

[00:06:19] Who does not like stupid people

[00:06:21] Lazy people, divas or BS are said quote

[00:06:25] I usually say what other people can't

[00:06:28] And as in my real life

[00:06:30] I pay the price for it

[00:06:32] End quote

[00:06:33] On day one it was to shot her around the world

[00:06:36] And would be the nail in her coffin

[00:06:38] When she told the two returning players

[00:06:40] Quote

[00:06:42] It's nice they're here, but they are temporary players

[00:06:45] End quote

[00:06:46] She said she only vocalized what everyone was whispering

[00:06:49] She was voted out on day five

[00:06:52] And was sent to redemption island with a chance

[00:06:54] To get back in the game

[00:06:56] She celebrated her birthday there

[00:06:58] And in real time was out there for two weeks

[00:07:01] She said it was really lonely

[00:07:03] Although she ain't well

[00:07:04] Papayas, bananas, coconuts, crabs, snails

[00:07:08] And chestnuts

[00:07:09] To occupy her time

[00:07:11] She decorated with flowers

[00:07:13] Cleaned, journaled with charcoal from the fire

[00:07:16] And in shells wrote on the beach quote

[00:07:19] Redemption island sucks

[00:07:21] She would come up against her best friend

[00:07:24] On redemption island

[00:07:25] Since they were so close

[00:07:27] She said it was quote emotionally tough

[00:07:29] I didn't want to win

[00:07:30] I didn't want to lose end quote

[00:07:32] She knocked out a total of five opponents

[00:07:35] Single-handedly

[00:07:36] But on day 19

[00:07:38] She was lose to the best challenge competitor

[00:07:40] In the history of the game

[00:07:42] But she said quote

[00:07:44] It was not a blowout end quote

[00:07:47] She said her edit was definitely on the tough

[00:07:50] Beotch side, but she's okay with that

[00:07:53] She has no regrets calling out the two returning players

[00:07:56] As temporary but says

[00:07:58] She does regret not taking each player seriously quote

[00:08:02] I should have respected each tribe mate

[00:08:04] As a worthy opponent end quote

[00:08:06] She said survivor was fun

[00:08:08] And she had a great time

[00:08:09] But unlike many before and after her

[00:08:11] She said quote I can't say it was life changing

[00:08:15] Ask if she would play again

[00:08:17] Well I think you're going to love her answer

[00:08:19] Quote growing up in New York every day

[00:08:21] Is survivor so might as well make a million out of it

[00:08:24] End quote

[00:08:25] I introduced the woman not afraid to speak her mind

[00:08:28] Even through sign language

[00:08:30] Dubbed the spitfire of strong island

[00:08:33] And one of the greatest pre-merge characters ever

[00:08:37] Christine Shields Markowski

[00:08:40] Wow

[00:08:42] Wow

[00:08:43] What an intro right Christine

[00:08:45] OMG I am I'm impressed

[00:08:49] Yeah Christine

[00:08:51] You did your homework T-bird

[00:08:53] I did and we are impressed with you Miss Christine

[00:08:56] Thank you so much for making this happen today

[00:08:59] Well before we start

[00:09:01] Before we start I have to give a shout out to my cousin Tim

[00:09:04] Because it was Tim that convinced me

[00:09:08] That I should go on this podcast

[00:09:11] Oh okay shout out to Tim

[00:09:13] Thank you Tim

[00:09:15] So Christine you were on the fence and Tim said no you should do it

[00:09:19] Yes

[00:09:20] Okay

[00:09:21] Because I was saying he is a super fan of yours and T-birds

[00:09:26] Yes

[00:09:27] He is a listener

[00:09:30] He is a super fan

[00:09:32] So I texted him when T-bird had contacted me

[00:09:36] And I said Tim I don't know if I should do this

[00:09:39] I'm really not that interesting

[00:09:41] You know nobody I don't even think anybody remembers me

[00:09:45] And he was Tim that convinced me that I should definitely go on

[00:09:50] And here I am

[00:09:52] Yeah

[00:09:53] So thanks Tim

[00:09:54] Thank you Tim

[00:09:55] Yeah well we're so happy that you're here

[00:09:56] And you know you had been somebody that we go through

[00:10:00] And we say who are the people that we want to hear from

[00:10:02] And also who are the people that are a little bit like

[00:10:04] Off of the survivor beaten path of the people who are not out there a lot

[00:10:11] And you're somebody who I felt was really really fun on the show

[00:10:15] And somebody who I thought would be great to catch up with

[00:10:18] Aw thanks

[00:10:20] So we're so happy you're here

[00:10:22] I feel like I managed expectations though

[00:10:24] Yeah so what's going on in your world post-survivor

[00:10:31] Or these days in particular

[00:10:37] It's very similar to what I said when I it was six months after

[00:10:43] I still do laundry

[00:10:46] I still have to go to work

[00:10:48] Same as before really

[00:10:52] Except my daughter is now in college

[00:10:54] We have to pay for that

[00:10:56] So that's about it

[00:10:59] Christine I'm going to ask you about this

[00:11:01] Because I think for the last ten years I read that you've been traveling

[00:11:05] Around trying to hit each state

[00:11:08] And that you have I think you said

[00:11:10] Quote stringent criteria to meet

[00:11:12] To put the push pin in for each state

[00:11:15] So tell us about that

[00:11:17] That's fascinating

[00:11:18] T-Board you are amazing

[00:11:20] If I ever want to find out

[00:11:22] Any information on anybody

[00:11:25] I am definitely contacting you

[00:11:28] You are unbelievable

[00:11:29] You have done your homework very very well

[00:11:32] But yes that is true

[00:11:34] We've been we've been

[00:11:38] We've been traveling for many years with my kids

[00:11:42] And we do have very stringent criteria

[00:11:44] The four of us have to be together

[00:11:46] We have to do something in the state

[00:11:48] We have to eat in the state

[00:11:49] In order to get the push pin

[00:11:51] And a couple of years ago I got a tattoo on my arm

[00:11:55] With a map and a red push pin

[00:11:58] So when you say you have to do something

[00:12:02] Like what?

[00:12:03] Give me an example

[00:12:04] Hey have you been to Georgia?

[00:12:06] What have you been to Georgia?

[00:12:07] Oh gosh Georgia

[00:12:09] We went to Stone Mountain

[00:12:12] We went to Atlanta

[00:12:15] We went to Savannah

[00:12:17] We went to Mrs. Wilkes boarding house

[00:12:19] Yeah it's Savannah yes

[00:12:21] Best fried chicken and biscuits I've ever had in my life

[00:12:24] So we've done a lot

[00:12:27] For example we went to Arkansas

[00:12:29] We went to the dog track

[00:12:31] Okay

[00:12:32] Isn't that where everyone takes their little young children?

[00:12:35] Yes indeed

[00:12:37] It's the dog track

[00:12:39] So how many of the states have you been to now?

[00:12:42] Oh my gosh so good question

[00:12:44] We just finished our 49th state

[00:12:48] We just got back about a week and a half ago

[00:12:50] Oh

[00:12:51] So our 49th state that we visited is our US 49th state

[00:12:57] Okay yes

[00:12:59] So we just got back from Alaska

[00:13:01] You just got back from Alaska

[00:13:02] So what is the fit?

[00:13:03] What is the one that's hanging out there?

[00:13:07] Yeah Hawaii

[00:13:08] Hawaii okay

[00:13:09] That was by design though

[00:13:11] Because my kids are 19 and 21

[00:13:13] And I figure if we were going to like

[00:13:16] I don't know Alabama

[00:13:18] They wouldn't come with us

[00:13:19] So if I held off and held Hawaii as like a carrot

[00:13:22] I think they would

[00:13:24] They were more apt to go to Hawaii than somewhere else

[00:13:27] How did this start?

[00:13:28] How did you come up with this idea?

[00:13:30] I don't even know

[00:13:32] We just like to travel a lot

[00:13:35] So it was kind of natural I guess

[00:13:38] To say well let's do the whole country

[00:13:40] So you know my this person I know

[00:13:43] Who is also doing the 50 states

[00:13:46] Their criteria is really loose and kind of

[00:13:49] Dumb if you ask me

[00:13:52] They just have to eat something

[00:13:56] So it's like they step into the state

[00:13:59] Have a twinkie and leave and they get a pushpin

[00:14:02] Yeah I think that's lame

[00:14:04] But ours is a bit more stringent

[00:14:07] So finish it up with Hawaii

[00:14:10] That's the best way to finish up right there

[00:14:12] Yeah I think so

[00:14:14] I think so

[00:14:15] So sorry

[00:14:17] Wait T-Bird how many states have you been to?

[00:14:20] Oh god

[00:14:22] Rob

[00:14:23] Have you hit them all?

[00:14:24] Well I would hope that I would have hit them all

[00:14:27] Christine I'm a flight attendant with Delta

[00:14:29] I would hope that I have but Christine might be me

[00:14:32] Well it doesn't count if you just got there in the plane

[00:14:34] And ate something T-Bird

[00:14:35] You got to do something

[00:14:37] And you have to sleep

[00:14:39] You have to sleep in the state

[00:14:41] Outside of the airport

[00:14:43] Oh okay

[00:14:45] Now can it be in a hotel or does it have to be outside of the wilderness?

[00:14:48] No no no

[00:14:50] Definitely a hotel

[00:14:52] What?

[00:14:53] Christine you don't sleep in the wilderness in every state do you?

[00:14:57] Bet you can't

[00:14:58] I mean I guess I should but it'll be cheaper

[00:15:01] But my daughter's idea of roughing it is like no

[00:15:05] Room service

[00:15:07] That's her idea of roughing it

[00:15:09] No room service

[00:15:11] Christine I have to jump into this

[00:15:13] And this might be going a little bit backwards Rob

[00:15:15] But Rob you're used to me

[00:15:17] Second chances

[00:15:19] I cannot imagine that you were not contacted for survivor second chances

[00:15:23] Say on that we had Jim Rice and Micaela from your season

[00:15:28] And you were such such a standout

[00:15:31] Have you been contacted and were you contacted for second chances?

[00:15:35] No cause CBS sucks

[00:15:38] Oh wow

[00:15:40] Did you write that on shells on the beach?

[00:15:42] No I wrote redemption island sucks

[00:15:44] But I should go back and change that

[00:15:46] I should know I should write survivor stupid

[00:15:49] Just kidding not really

[00:15:51] JK not JK

[00:15:55] No I never

[00:15:57] This is the kind of things that you say that made coach come for you

[00:16:02] His name is Benjy

[00:16:05] You call him Benjy in these parts

[00:16:11] Rob she's not kidding

[00:16:13] I'm not calling her Benjy

[00:16:15] I mean I'm not calling her

[00:16:16] She's not kidding

[00:16:17] Everything I've read and seen

[00:16:19] She never will say the word COACH

[00:16:22] Ever

[00:16:23] If always Benjamin

[00:16:25] The C word is always Benjamin or Benjy

[00:16:27] I cannot believe that you are not contacted

[00:16:30] From CBS or any season after that

[00:16:33] Nope since you play

[00:16:35] That is shocking Rob

[00:16:37] Is that not shocking?

[00:16:38] That's very surprising

[00:16:40] Very

[00:16:41] Not even blood versus water Christine

[00:16:44] I know because Stacey and I

[00:16:48] We call each other Sissy

[00:16:50] Like she's my sister for Pete's sake

[00:16:53] Yeah you should have played blood versus water with Stacey

[00:16:56] Can you please tell me you keep in touch with Stacey

[00:16:59] We do we actually

[00:17:02] We went to visit her in Dallas

[00:17:05] Oh maybe it's like

[00:17:07] I mean now it's maybe five years ago

[00:17:11] But we had such a great time

[00:17:13] Yeah we do stay in touch

[00:17:15] Not as much as I would like

[00:17:18] Just because life seems to get in the way

[00:17:20] But we do

[00:17:21] And she's still in the same line of work

[00:17:26] I don't want to speak to that

[00:17:28] Okay

[00:17:29] I think I know but I don't know if you know

[00:17:32] Okay but she was that Stacey Powell is another one of my

[00:17:36] All time favorites

[00:17:38] We used to talk to her on the podcast probably

[00:17:42] Like ten years ago

[00:17:44] And she's just so hilarious

[00:17:48] I could listen to her read the phone book

[00:17:51] I agree

[00:17:53] I agree and sometimes I go back

[00:17:56] And listen I go oh my god

[00:17:58] She is hysterical

[00:18:00] She made me laugh

[00:18:02] I love her I do I love her

[00:18:04] Yeah we were on the plane back

[00:18:07] I don't know if she told you this or

[00:18:10] I don't know we were on the plane back from Fiji

[00:18:14] Where we were coming home I think

[00:18:16] And we had hit some turbulence

[00:18:19] And the flight attendant was walking back and forth

[00:18:23] Past my area like my aisle

[00:18:28] So she would walk back and forth and back and forth

[00:18:32] And then she would leave

[00:18:34] And then she'd come back

[00:18:36] So finally she came to me

[00:18:38] And she said do you have a sister

[00:18:41] That's sitting back in row

[00:18:44] I don't know 25 or whatever

[00:18:46] And I said Stacey yes and she goes

[00:18:48] Your sisters

[00:18:50] So it turns out we hit turbulence

[00:18:52] Stacey got a little nervous

[00:18:54] And she said can you go get my sister

[00:18:56] She's in row 15

[00:18:59] So I guess the

[00:19:02] The flight attendant was looking for someone

[00:19:05] Who was more confident than this face

[00:19:08] Because Stacey had said go get my sister

[00:19:11] Do you know what I mean

[00:19:13] So she's like are you two sisters

[00:19:17] I said oh yeah we are

[00:19:19] So she's just a person

[00:19:21] She's just awesome

[00:19:23] So Christine you could also play

[00:19:25] Blood vs. Water with your brother in law

[00:19:27] Wouldn't he be a huge survivor fan from the beginning

[00:19:30] Huge

[00:19:31] Is he still a huge fan

[00:19:33] Now did he ever

[00:19:35] Sorry

[00:19:36] Did he ever apply

[00:19:38] I don't think so

[00:19:40] I don't think so

[00:19:42] I don't know if that's

[00:19:44] You know his wheelhouse

[00:19:46] I don't know

[00:19:47] I know I never asked him if he applied

[00:19:49] But yeah I think there's

[00:19:51] Plenty of people that would

[00:19:53] Love to just do it

[00:19:55] You know that I could call

[00:19:58] I don't know if they want to do it with me

[00:20:00] Seeing how I clearly don't know

[00:20:02] How to play

[00:20:04] Oh I wouldn't say that

[00:20:06] I wouldn't say that at all

[00:20:08] Well my cousin Tim

[00:20:10] Like I said he's a super fan of your show

[00:20:12] As well as survivor

[00:20:14] The show itself

[00:20:15] And he said okay Christine

[00:20:17] And he talked me through it

[00:20:19] He said this strategy usually works

[00:20:21] This strategy doesn't he is a

[00:20:23] A student of the game

[00:20:25] He said do this try not to do that

[00:20:27] And I said got it Tim

[00:20:29] Got it

[00:20:30] The first five minutes

[00:20:32] He's like oh she

[00:20:34] Totally went against

[00:20:36] Everything that he had suggested to me

[00:20:39] Poor Tim sorry Tim

[00:20:41] Christine how did your audition

[00:20:43] Tell us how your audition looked like

[00:20:45] How you won him over

[00:20:47] You nailed it

[00:20:49] You hit the nail right on the head

[00:20:51] It was more of a

[00:20:53] I was angry

[00:20:55] That they

[00:20:57] They chose people who would just

[00:21:00] Quit and want to go home

[00:21:02] So it wasn't really like a thing

[00:21:05] Like oh my god I have to get on survivor

[00:21:07] It wasn't something like that

[00:21:10] I just wanted them to know how pissed I was

[00:21:13] And it was again

[00:21:16] Something that my whole family did together

[00:21:19] So my kids were like mommy

[00:21:22] You could do that you can go on survivor

[00:21:24] Because we were watching it all together

[00:21:26] So we downloaded the application

[00:21:29] And we filled it out as a family

[00:21:32] I would ask them the questions

[00:21:34] And my family would answer for me

[00:21:36] I write it down and then the video

[00:21:38] It was just a kind of like

[00:21:40] Look if I did my job as poorly as you did

[00:21:42] I'd be fired because they hired

[00:21:44] They hired they chose

[00:21:47] People who quit so I did that

[00:21:50] Two weeks later I get a phone call

[00:21:53] Saying so you

[00:21:55] First of all I think they said

[00:21:57] Oh yeah this is survivor and I think

[00:21:59] I might have hung up on them and they had to call back

[00:22:01] Because I thought it was both you know

[00:22:03] It was baloney and then

[00:22:05] They called back and I said

[00:22:07] Yeah so you think I should be fired

[00:22:09] Yeah

[00:22:11] I said who is this

[00:22:13] This is survivor I'm like yeah

[00:22:15] I kind of do and then it just snowballs from there

[00:22:17] And then two weeks after that

[00:22:19] I found myself in California

[00:22:21] Four weeks after that I found myself

[00:22:23] In Samoa

[00:22:25] Weird

[00:22:27] Just for being a

[00:22:29] Well they like that attitude

[00:22:31] They like the people

[00:22:33] That are going to

[00:22:35] Speak up and not just be

[00:22:37] Quiet when they get out there

[00:22:39] Yes

[00:22:41] Speaking to that Rob

[00:22:43] When I was in the casting

[00:22:45] I think it was one of the

[00:22:47] Later days and they said

[00:22:49] I think I was meeting

[00:22:51] Jeff

[00:22:53] And

[00:22:55] Mark

[00:22:57] Burnett

[00:22:59] And so they came to my room

[00:23:01] And got me

[00:23:03] And I had this cute little

[00:23:05] You know like tunic floral tunic

[00:23:07] And it was adorable whatever

[00:23:09] And they said

[00:23:11] They said oh Christine

[00:23:13] Do you have anything else

[00:23:15] To wear to you know

[00:23:17] To change into and I said oh god

[00:23:19] What's wrong with this it's clean

[00:23:21] You know and

[00:23:23] So they said well you know what

[00:23:25] I think we already cast the nice mom

[00:23:27] What does that make me

[00:23:29] Yeah

[00:23:31] So I think

[00:23:33] Yeah that was Dawn for I presume

[00:23:35] Yes wow good memory

[00:23:37] Yes yes

[00:23:39] Dawn is very nice

[00:23:41] Dawn I don't think is going to say

[00:23:43] That is CPS

[00:23:45] CPS sucks

[00:23:47] This is stupid

[00:23:49] Did you recognize anybody

[00:23:51] At the audition did you

[00:23:53] Recognize did you see Dawn Jim Rice

[00:23:55] Did you see Stacy

[00:23:57] Anybody

[00:23:59] Yeah I did see some

[00:24:01] You know I saw a lot of people

[00:24:03] That were on the

[00:24:05] The season

[00:24:07] After

[00:24:09] On survivor one world

[00:24:11] Yeah

[00:24:13] Yeah we don't need to talk anymore

[00:24:15] About that

[00:24:17] Yeah I don't

[00:24:19] I think from what I understand

[00:24:21] I was supposed to be

[00:24:23] I think they had originally wanted me

[00:24:25] For season

[00:24:27] What season was I on 23

[00:24:29] 23 yes

[00:24:31] So I think someone had said that they originally wanted me for 24

[00:24:33] But then something

[00:24:35] Happened and they quickly pulled me

[00:24:37] To 23 like that

[00:24:39] Screwed me I bet

[00:24:41] Yeah I probably would have had the same

[00:24:43] Bad attitude anyway

[00:24:45] So

[00:24:47] Christie when you were at a

[00:24:49] Redemption Island did you were you nervous

[00:24:51] Thinking I really want to get back in the game

[00:24:53] Or did it matter when you know every time an opponent

[00:24:55] Can you nervous thinking I really

[00:24:57] Want this or was it like well it will be what it

[00:24:59] Will be I don't care

[00:25:01] I do have a kiss that I said

[00:25:03] Kind of attitude but I wanted

[00:25:05] To get into the game because I wanted to nail

[00:25:07] Them on my tribe

[00:25:09] Oh I wanted to nail them so

[00:25:11] Badly yeah

[00:25:13] It was it sucked

[00:25:15] But

[00:25:17] You know they sent Ozzy

[00:25:19] I wasn't losing to Ozzy

[00:25:21] I think maybe that was

[00:25:23] That probably paid played

[00:25:25] You know some sort of role

[00:25:27] That you know

[00:25:29] He was the most

[00:25:31] You know winning is

[00:25:33] You know contestant survivor

[00:25:35] Contestant ever

[00:25:37] So that probably

[00:25:39] Screw with my head or whatever

[00:25:41] But I was still only one not short

[00:25:43] So

[00:25:45] So Christie you gotta be impressed

[00:25:47] Feeling pretty good that Ozzy

[00:25:49] Would say I'm gonna let myself get

[00:25:51] Voted out because I might be the

[00:25:53] Only one that can take her out

[00:25:55] I mean that says quite a bit about your game

[00:25:57] Aw your game playing

[00:25:59] I think so

[00:26:01] You know it was good to hear

[00:26:03] But

[00:26:05] You know whether you know it still

[00:26:07] Sucks that I was out like it was

[00:26:09] Still out whether it was from Ozzy

[00:26:11] Or someone else is he still knocked me out

[00:26:13] So I just wanted to nail my tribe

[00:26:15] To the wall so badly

[00:26:17] And I remember

[00:26:19] Afterwards they were asking me

[00:26:21] So would you have flipped

[00:26:23] And gone with

[00:26:25] You know the red

[00:26:27] I'm like did I thought

[00:26:29] I made it pretty clear

[00:26:31] I was yeah

[00:26:33] Well that's the ultimate irony

[00:26:35] All of that is that

[00:26:37] Ozzy like went out of his way

[00:26:39] I gotta beat Christine

[00:26:41] Send me to redemption island

[00:26:43] And it all came down to

[00:26:45] We need the numbers

[00:26:47] We can't let them have their people there

[00:26:49] And in the same way

[00:26:51] That Cochran flipped against Savai

[00:26:53] You could have been that for

[00:26:55] For Ozzy's tribe

[00:26:57] I'm Rob that's exactly it

[00:26:59] And every time we

[00:27:01] Went to redemption island for a duel

[00:27:03] I made it pretty clear

[00:27:05] I thought

[00:27:07] With my sign language

[00:27:09] With my whole body

[00:27:11] I made it pretty clear that

[00:27:13] I was not going back to my tribe

[00:27:15] At all

[00:27:17] And they thought it was an act

[00:27:19] They thought you were faking

[00:27:21] Yeah I don't fake

[00:27:23] Not when it comes to a million

[00:27:25] Dollars for Pete's sake

[00:27:27] I'm not speaking

[00:27:29] I was going with them

[00:27:31] They sent me Ozzy anyway

[00:27:33] Yeah so

[00:27:35] Christine you did say you don't

[00:27:37] People know exactly where you stand

[00:27:39] Either you'll vocalize it or

[00:27:41] I think you even said with sign language

[00:27:43] So tell us about flipping off Jeff Probst

[00:27:45] Which means everybody

[00:27:47] That sign language

[00:27:49] I think that's the universal sign

[00:27:51] That is definitely

[00:27:53] You want to hear a very funny story

[00:27:55] Please I teach at the high

[00:27:57] It's not really that funny

[00:27:59] It's somewhat funny

[00:28:01] So

[00:28:03] I teach at the high school

[00:28:05] So it seems that

[00:28:07] Survivor has had this resurgence

[00:28:09] Especially since

[00:28:11] Covid

[00:28:13] They stopped recording and whatever

[00:28:15] So all of these young people are now

[00:28:17] Watching

[00:28:19] Old seasons

[00:28:21] Not that we're old I'm just saying older seasons

[00:28:23] Classic seasons

[00:28:25] Classic

[00:28:27] Thank you

[00:28:29] So anyway

[00:28:31] Another teacher the Latin teacher

[00:28:33] Says Christine I

[00:28:35] You have got me going

[00:28:37] Crazy I said oh god what did I do now

[00:28:39] Going through my roller decks in my head

[00:28:41] Of all the things that I did

[00:28:43] And she said

[00:28:45] I told my students to put the phone away

[00:28:47] And they were watching something on their phone

[00:28:49] I said so the teacher was telling

[00:28:51] Them to put their phone away and they said

[00:28:53] Hold on hold on give us two seconds

[00:28:55] The shield flips the bird off to somebody

[00:28:57] Can we just watch until that point

[00:28:59] Oh god

[00:29:01] So

[00:29:03] What happened was I was on redemption island

[00:29:05] For quite some time

[00:29:07] And then

[00:29:09] So then I had to go

[00:29:11] To a duel I think it was with

[00:29:13] Oh god

[00:29:17] Shoot

[00:29:20] It was Simhar

[00:29:22] Papa Bear

[00:29:24] Elise

[00:29:26] Elise

[00:29:28] So

[00:29:32] We were doing a duel

[00:29:34] Where we had to slide these

[00:29:36] Pucks

[00:29:38] So they gave us a minute to practice

[00:29:40] So I'm sliding

[00:29:42] So Jeff says oh god

[00:29:44] Your fingers are filthy

[00:29:46] My fingernails were filthy

[00:29:48] I said really Jeff

[00:29:50] I've been quiet myself

[00:29:52] For ten days

[00:29:54] Really I didn't have time for a manicure

[00:29:56] And then he said something fresh

[00:29:58] But your fingers are really

[00:30:00] I said really my fingers are filthy

[00:30:02] Which finger in particular is filthy Jeff

[00:30:04] And then I flipped him

[00:30:06] To birds

[00:30:08] And

[00:30:10] And that didn't make the show

[00:30:12] It did

[00:30:14] Rob they cut and pasted

[00:30:16] So it seemed like

[00:30:18] Cowboy

[00:30:20] Rick

[00:30:22] He said to me at one of the

[00:30:24] I'm sorry

[00:30:26] Rancher Rick

[00:30:28] He said

[00:30:30] He said

[00:30:32] I think it was that one with Elise

[00:30:34] He said oh good luck Christine

[00:30:36] And then the next thing

[00:30:38] They cut it

[00:30:40] To me flipping the bird

[00:30:42] So it was like

[00:30:44] Well I didn't really do

[00:30:46] That but he deserved it anyway

[00:30:48] They all deserved it

[00:30:50] Wow

[00:30:52] So that was an out of context

[00:30:54] Middle finger

[00:30:56] Yeah

[00:30:58] I mean it worked

[00:31:00] Yeah that's great

[00:31:02] So Rob I gotta ask

[00:31:04] For give me one word to describe Jeff Probst

[00:31:06] One word adjective

[00:31:08] For me

[00:31:10] Jeff Probst

[00:31:12] He was adorable

[00:31:14] Oh okay

[00:31:16] That went a lot better than I thought it was going to

[00:31:20] I mean

[00:31:22] Does he have the power to

[00:31:24] Bring me back on the show?

[00:31:26] Yes I don't know

[00:31:28] If he does have power to bring me back on the show

[00:31:30] Then the adjective I would say was stupid

[00:31:32] Yeah okay

[00:31:34] It's not over yet Christine

[00:31:36] It could still happen

[00:31:38] Well the people that are

[00:31:40] Students of the game

[00:31:42] My brother in law

[00:31:44] And my cousin Tim

[00:31:46] They said that it is

[00:31:48] Like there's no shot

[00:31:50] People

[00:31:52] Prior to like COVID

[00:31:54] I think they said

[00:31:56] Kind of like a reboot into season 40

[00:31:58] Do you keep up with

[00:32:00] Watching any of the newer seasons?

[00:32:02] I don't

[00:32:04] Okay so we can tell you a little bit about what's going on

[00:32:06] So they did

[00:32:08] A reboot they call it like

[00:32:10] The new era of survivor

[00:32:12] Do you know about

[00:32:14] Yes yes

[00:32:16] It's Jeff's era

[00:32:18] And so

[00:32:20] You know that the game is 26 days now

[00:32:24] You had heard that?

[00:32:26] I did I heard it was shorter

[00:32:28] Shorter and I was like

[00:32:30] I was on redemption I was like 15

[00:32:32] Yeah I mean that basically

[00:32:34] That would be cake

[00:32:36] You know

[00:32:38] And there's a lot of like twists

[00:32:40] And advantages and all sorts of things

[00:32:42] To really keep people on their toes

[00:32:44] But Jeff has said

[00:32:46] That they are not bringing back

[00:32:48] Any people from before season 40

[00:32:50] But then he's also walked that back

[00:32:52] Oh he has

[00:32:54] Yeah I think some of these just says things

[00:32:56] And then says well you know

[00:32:58] We would like at some point

[00:33:00] But I think right now they're very into

[00:33:02] Seeing the show with

[00:33:04] All new players

[00:33:06] Oh okay well

[00:33:08] Okay we'll see what happens

[00:33:10] Well do you want to change

[00:33:12] Your agenda with Jeff now?

[00:33:14] Yes totally

[00:33:16] Short-sighted

[00:33:20] Christine could you tell us a little bit

[00:33:23] You know we were talking about like

[00:33:25] Your time on redemption island

[00:33:27] But could you talk a little bit about

[00:33:29] What life was like at the

[00:33:31] Upolu tribe

[00:33:33] When you were there

[00:33:35] God I wasn't there that long

[00:33:37] But you were there for a few days

[00:33:39] Five days that you were there

[00:33:41] So I mean that's a long time

[00:33:43] To be with a bunch of people

[00:33:45] Yeah a bunch of annoying people

[00:33:47] Yeah it's a very very very long time

[00:33:49] Yeah

[00:33:51] Yeah it was

[00:33:53] It was pretty clear that

[00:33:55] Benji had taken control

[00:33:57] And

[00:33:59] I was not

[00:34:01] Happy about that

[00:34:03] He was telling

[00:34:05] These stories that he was

[00:34:07] Kidnapped by pygmies in

[00:34:09] South America

[00:34:11] He's breaking out all the classics

[00:34:13] And I'm going really

[00:34:15] And they didn't make a movie about you

[00:34:17] Like so

[00:34:19] And he was just

[00:34:21] You know telling, oh I need somewhere to sit

[00:34:23] Someone has to go find me

[00:34:25] A tree trunk so I can sit down

[00:34:27] And off everyone would go

[00:34:29] Looking for a tree trunk for him to sit

[00:34:31] I'm going what why does he have

[00:34:33] So much control I don't understand it

[00:34:35] So it was kind of like

[00:34:37] Stacey and I felt the same way

[00:34:39] You know we didn't understand

[00:34:41] Why everyone was just

[00:34:43] Kind of allowing him

[00:34:45] To take control

[00:34:47] So Stacey and I aligned right away

[00:34:49] And Makayla was kind of

[00:34:51] You know on the fence about it

[00:34:53] But everyone else was

[00:34:55] I think right

[00:34:57] Right there just being a

[00:34:59] Benji Acolyte

[00:35:01] Why

[00:35:03] You know what

[00:35:05] Like I said

[00:35:07] Like T-Bird said in

[00:35:09] In my beautiful intro

[00:35:11] They

[00:35:13] They

[00:35:15] For some reason he played better than me

[00:35:17] Because I did not give them enough credit

[00:35:19] I didn't give him enough credit

[00:35:21] And I got played

[00:35:25] Christine were the others

[00:35:27] I know you said Sissy or Stacey was upset

[00:35:29] I would think when you see these new players like this

[00:35:31] The players that have played before come in

[00:35:33] I would think most of the people

[00:35:35] Would say we've got to get them out

[00:35:37] Are you saying it was just basically

[00:35:39] You and Stacey everybody else was in awe

[00:35:41] Yes

[00:35:43] They were just I mean

[00:35:45] They were bowing to

[00:35:47] It was something that I just did not

[00:35:49] Understand because

[00:35:51] When we were standing in the

[00:35:53] In the front like in

[00:35:55] You know in a group

[00:35:57] Waiting for the

[00:35:59] New the returning players to come in

[00:36:01] On a helicopter like this

[00:36:03] Grand entrance

[00:36:05] And we're waiting

[00:36:07] And we kept saying oh my god who is it going to be

[00:36:09] Oh my god holy shit oh my god

[00:36:11] And

[00:36:13] Then it was kind of like well it doesn't matter

[00:36:15] Who it is

[00:36:17] They're not staying

[00:36:19] Can't allow them to stay

[00:36:21] They have something we don't

[00:36:23] They have experience they have wisdom

[00:36:25] They have all of this

[00:36:27] All of these

[00:36:29] Attributes that we don't

[00:36:31] We have to get rid of them right away

[00:36:33] And I'm like hell yeah I'm on board with that

[00:36:35] And then Benji comes over to us

[00:36:37] And

[00:36:39] They keep him until the end

[00:36:41] Yeah I

[00:36:43] I don't understand what happened

[00:36:45] He brainwashed them

[00:36:47] Yeah

[00:36:49] And there he stayed and out went Christine

[00:36:51] So Christine did you

[00:36:53] Recognize

[00:36:55] Ozzy from

[00:36:57] Beforehand or it just

[00:36:59] It didn't matter to you who got off that helicopter

[00:37:01] Did I recognize

[00:37:03] Yeah it was anything about

[00:37:05] Those guys specifically

[00:37:07] Or was it just anybody

[00:37:09] Who was going to come back into the game

[00:37:11] Anybody

[00:37:13] And it didn't matter who it was

[00:37:15] Even T-Bird

[00:37:17] Oh no

[00:37:19] I would have been buddies with T-Bird

[00:37:21] How about Rob

[00:37:23] Rob

[00:37:25] BFFs

[00:37:27] She's learning T-Bird

[00:37:29] This is growth

[00:37:31] From Christine

[00:37:33] Christine so

[00:37:35] I know you said you were there for five days

[00:37:37] Before you went to redemption island for a couple of weeks

[00:37:39] But one of your proudest moments

[00:37:41] Was when you made fire

[00:37:43] With Albert's glasses because you had no

[00:37:45] Cleanse

[00:37:47] Isn't that funny

[00:37:49] And then

[00:37:51] That's not a funny story it's a mediocre story

[00:37:53] But

[00:37:55] So I was making

[00:37:57] Fire with Albert's glasses

[00:37:59] But

[00:38:01] I forgot that they were Albert's glasses

[00:38:03] And for whatever I put him in my bag

[00:38:05] And I forgot

[00:38:07] I put them in and Albert was looking for his glasses

[00:38:09] For like a day and a half

[00:38:11] And I had them and I didn't know it

[00:38:13] I felt so bad after that

[00:38:15] But I made fire so

[00:38:17] Did that lead to him wanting to vote against you

[00:38:19] Probably

[00:38:21] He couldn't see for two days

[00:38:23] She stole my glasses

[00:38:25] Did you take his glasses to redemption island

[00:38:27] Or did you finally give them up

[00:38:29] No I gave because I went in my bag

[00:38:31] And I said oh my god who's glasses are these

[00:38:33] And then

[00:38:35] I remembered that Albert was

[00:38:37] Looking for them for two days

[00:38:39] And I said are these those glasses

[00:38:41] That you were looking for

[00:38:43] Sorry

[00:38:45] Whatever I had them

[00:38:47] So it's kind of funny

[00:38:49] That your feelings about

[00:38:51] Coach slash Benjamin are

[00:38:53] Well documented but when you and

[00:38:55] Stacey went to that tribal council

[00:38:57] They split the votes against

[00:38:59] You two but you voted

[00:39:01] For Edna and Stacey voted

[00:39:03] For Sophie

[00:39:05] Why did you pick those two

[00:39:07] To put your votes on

[00:39:09] You know

[00:39:11] At like the few minutes before

[00:39:13] We left for tribal council

[00:39:15] It was Bedlam

[00:39:17] Or maybe it was just

[00:39:19] They were trying to purposely

[00:39:21] Confuse Stacey and I

[00:39:23] They did a good job

[00:39:25] It was just one going back

[00:39:27] And forth and then Rick

[00:39:29] Was I remember this

[00:39:31] Rick was

[00:39:33] Whistling

[00:39:35] M-I-C-K

[00:39:37] So he was trying to

[00:39:39] Tell us to

[00:39:41] Vote for Michaela

[00:39:43] M-I-C-K

[00:39:45] It was just such a bedlam

[00:39:47] So Stacey and I were just like

[00:39:49] Whatever

[00:39:51] Vote for whomever

[00:39:53] We thought it was going to be

[00:39:55] Someone else

[00:39:57] Right they were just telling you a lot of names

[00:39:59] Yeah it was just so confusing

[00:40:01] Now you also had a clue

[00:40:03] To the hidden immunity idol

[00:40:05] How close do you think

[00:40:07] You came to finding the idol

[00:40:09] I thought I was pretty

[00:40:11] Get damn close because

[00:40:13] Every time I went near this tree

[00:40:15] Like the

[00:40:17] The

[00:40:19] The camera crew

[00:40:21] Scurry over

[00:40:23] To me

[00:40:25] What the heck

[00:40:27] So then I moved away or whatever

[00:40:29] And then I was actually looking

[00:40:31] For firewood

[00:40:33] And then I moved closer to the tree

[00:40:35] And look around and then here comes

[00:40:37] The camera crew

[00:40:39] And hold on

[00:40:41] So then it was kind of like

[00:40:43] A game so that I'd walk away

[00:40:45] And then I'd come back

[00:40:47] And here comes the camera crew

[00:40:49] So I think that was the whole thing

[00:40:51] Like

[00:40:53] The rest of

[00:40:55] Upolu was saying

[00:40:57] Oh she's looking for an idol already

[00:40:59] She was looking for an idol already

[00:41:01] I was kind of

[00:41:03] Slashing away

[00:41:05] But weren't you looking for idols

[00:41:07] For the days? Weren't you out there

[00:41:09] Looking for them

[00:41:11] I was actually not really

[00:41:13] Like I said I was just going near this tree

[00:41:15] And then the camera crew would come

[00:41:17] And I'd go oh

[00:41:19] I wonder why they kept doing that

[00:41:21] So then I just started to do that

[00:41:23] And then everyone said you were looking for idols

[00:41:25] So I'm like alright

[00:41:27] You know it wasn't

[00:41:29] It wasn't like oh I'm looking

[00:41:31] For like a concerted effort

[00:41:33] To look for idols it was just

[00:41:35] I went near that tree

[00:41:37] The camera crew came over

[00:41:39] And I was like oh that's weird

[00:41:41] So that was that

[00:41:43] And they took it as she was looking for an idol

[00:41:45] Which I think everyone else was looking for an idol too

[00:41:47] Which just

[00:41:49] I had a few strikes against me already

[00:41:51] So

[00:41:53] You know just put that nail

[00:41:55] Right in the corner

[00:41:57] Yeah

[00:41:59] What did you think about Brandon

[00:42:01] Before you learned

[00:42:03] That he was Russell's

[00:42:05] Nephew

[00:42:07] And then what did you think about him once you knew

[00:42:09] It was Russell's nephew

[00:42:11] I think the

[00:42:13] The familial connection really had nothing

[00:42:15] To do like I didn't

[00:42:17] Care really

[00:42:19] But

[00:42:21] He was fine he was quiet

[00:42:23] When I

[00:42:25] You know those five days

[00:42:27] You know he was pretty quiet

[00:42:29] With me anyway

[00:42:31] I remember calling him

[00:42:33] He had a tattoo on his neck

[00:42:35] And it said loco or something

[00:42:37] So I just started calling him loco and he goes

[00:42:39] Damn my reputation follows me

[00:42:41] I am crazy

[00:42:43] Yeah

[00:42:45] Like maybe you know

[00:42:47] The tattoo on your neck

[00:42:49] I don't know

[00:42:51] But you know

[00:42:53] So that's it we really didn't have much

[00:42:55] You know

[00:42:57] To talk about really

[00:42:59] He was with

[00:43:01] Benji along with Edna

[00:43:03] And Albert

[00:43:05] And Sophie like they were

[00:43:07] Tight that group

[00:43:09] Yeah

[00:43:11] I know Sophie went in

[00:43:13] Your season are you proud

[00:43:15] Obviously you wanted to win your season

[00:43:17] Of course but are you proud

[00:43:19] To have Sophie represent the season out of the whole cast

[00:43:21] And I think I read that she played

[00:43:23] A lot stronger game than anybody

[00:43:25] Yeah I mean good for her

[00:43:29] I guess

[00:43:31] Good for

[00:43:33] Whomever you know I wanted it to be me

[00:43:35] So am I happy it was Sophie

[00:43:37] I would rather

[00:43:39] Have been me

[00:43:41] But you were happy it wasn't coach right

[00:43:43] Oh

[00:43:45] Then it would have been gloves off

[00:43:47] Yeah

[00:43:49] Yeah as long as it wasn't

[00:43:51] Benji

[00:43:55] But Christine did

[00:43:57] Sophie play a stronger game than we saw

[00:43:59] Through the season

[00:44:01] And did you watch her

[00:44:03] Did you watch the winners at war with Sophie

[00:44:05] Were you pulling for her

[00:44:07] I did watch the winners at war

[00:44:09] But I don't remember

[00:44:11] You know I don't

[00:44:13] Like again I don't watch it with

[00:44:15] Yeah you gotta ask Tim

[00:44:17] Yes

[00:44:19] I think you should

[00:44:21] Phone a friend

[00:44:23] And ask Tim what I

[00:44:25] I don't know about Sophie played

[00:44:27] Because I

[00:44:29] Christine what about Cochran

[00:44:31] Did you have any interaction

[00:44:33] With him I know he was on

[00:44:35] The other tribe

[00:44:37] Yeah

[00:44:39] So

[00:44:41] I had no interaction

[00:44:43] With him

[00:44:45] Prior to the

[00:44:47] What do you call that

[00:44:49] The last finale

[00:44:51] The finale yeah

[00:44:53] Interaction with him really because

[00:44:55] He didn't come to redemption island

[00:44:57] But

[00:44:59] I remember speaking with

[00:45:01] Cochran and his and Mr. and Mrs.

[00:45:03] Cochran

[00:45:05] They were so lovely

[00:45:07] They were really lovely and but they did say

[00:45:09] To me

[00:45:11] They were so sweet they said oh

[00:45:13] We're so glad that Ozzy went

[00:45:15] To redemption island instead of our

[00:45:17] They called him our Johnny

[00:45:19] Because she's like she's the Mrs.

[00:45:21] I think you might have

[00:45:23] Beat him

[00:45:25] You would change the history

[00:45:27] Because then he comes back

[00:45:29] Yeah but they had a bromance

[00:45:31] They loved him

[00:45:33] I think Jeff and

[00:45:35] Whomever else makes the decisions

[00:45:37] They were like oh no

[00:45:39] Who had a bromance Cochran and Jeff had a bromance

[00:45:41] I think they like Cochran so much

[00:45:43] Famously yes

[00:45:45] I think there was a little

[00:45:47] CBS Cochran romance

[00:45:49] Yeah so they liked him a lot

[00:45:51] So good for him

[00:45:53] And I was

[00:45:55] Cochran for Halloween

[00:45:57] Yes I've seen that picture on the survivor wiki

[00:45:59] Yeah it's pretty funny

[00:46:01] Yeah that was pretty good

[00:46:03] So I know that the players

[00:46:05] Who are out before

[00:46:07] The jury starts and

[00:46:09] Going and traveling together

[00:46:11] Do you have any

[00:46:13] Fun experiences

[00:46:15] From the trip

[00:46:17] With the rest of your cast

[00:46:19] I swear

[00:46:22] It was Stacy and I that shared

[00:46:24] A room every time

[00:46:26] Yes

[00:46:28] So you put Stacy and I together

[00:46:30] You can put the two of us in a paper bag

[00:46:32] And we could have a great time

[00:46:34] So every day

[00:46:36] Was just fun

[00:46:38] Fun fun fun

[00:46:40] I remember

[00:46:42] We kind of like can't tell everyone

[00:46:44] Who we are kind of like

[00:46:46] You have to kind of keep things on the down low

[00:46:48] You can't

[00:46:50] Keep Stacy and I on the down low

[00:46:52] Like I think it's just

[00:46:54] Virtually impossible because we just

[00:46:56] We're just too similar

[00:46:58] And you know

[00:47:00] We just like to have a good time so

[00:47:02] We went out dancing one night

[00:47:04] And we met a group of people

[00:47:06] And they were like oh let's take pictures

[00:47:08] And Stacy and I were just making up

[00:47:10] All these stupid excuses

[00:47:12] Not to take pictures

[00:47:14] And laughing just rolling all the time

[00:47:16] So it was so fun

[00:47:18] It was just so fun

[00:47:20] And we're just

[00:47:22] We were just so similar

[00:47:24] That it just made it awesome

[00:47:26] Every day was awesome

[00:47:28] So

[00:47:30] I know you're the same touch for Stacy

[00:47:32] Have you stayed in touch with any of your other castmates?

[00:47:34] Yeah

[00:47:36] Papa Bear

[00:47:38] He's so good

[00:47:40] Another

[00:47:42] Long Island Papa Bear

[00:47:44] Or New York

[00:47:46] He's on the

[00:47:48] He used to live in the town

[00:47:50] Next to mine

[00:47:52] But he moved it a little bit

[00:47:54] Further kind of west

[00:47:56] But he's still in Nassau County

[00:47:58] And he is so good

[00:48:00] I am kind of like

[00:48:02] You know

[00:48:04] Out on the survivor outskirts

[00:48:06] Kind of and he just keeps me informed

[00:48:08] All the time of

[00:48:10] survivor

[00:48:12] Insider information

[00:48:14] Who's doing who had a baby

[00:48:16] Who did this who's having a party

[00:48:18] Let's go out and I'm such a

[00:48:20] You know old

[00:48:22] Fuddy duddy curmudgeon

[00:48:24] Then I'm like I'm gonna work tomorrow

[00:48:26] So

[00:48:28] I don't do as much as Papa Bear does

[00:48:30] But he always keeps me

[00:48:32] Informed

[00:48:34] He's tapped in

[00:48:36] Yeah he's so good

[00:48:38] T-Bird

[00:48:40] Should I play this?

[00:48:42] I think cue the audio

[00:48:44] Absolutely

[00:48:46] Hi everybody this is Papa Bear from Survivor 23

[00:48:48] I would like to say hello to my friend Christine

[00:48:50] Hey Christine hope you're doing well

[00:48:52] We were both on the islands together

[00:48:54] It was awesome

[00:48:56] Well not getting voted off of course that wasn't good

[00:48:58] But you know you move on

[00:49:00] We got voted off right next to each other

[00:49:02] So I went up in Redemption Island

[00:49:04] Where she was already

[00:49:06] In the dark pitch black

[00:49:08] Trying not to fall

[00:49:10] I got there she was nothing but a beautiful

[00:49:12] Woman with the biggest heart to welcome me

[00:49:14] There

[00:49:16] And come on I have a secret everybody

[00:49:18] We had to sleep back to back so the animals

[00:49:20] Didn't get us yes it's real

[00:49:22] So I'd like to say hello to my friend Christine

[00:49:24] And Teresa and hope everybody's

[00:49:26] Doing well Bear hugs Papa Bear

[00:49:28] It's real it's happening

[00:49:30] Oh my god I love him

[00:49:32] He loves you too Christine

[00:49:34] Were there a lot of animals

[00:49:36] On Redemption Island

[00:49:38] Oh my god yes

[00:49:40] Okay so another story

[00:49:42] Again mediocre story

[00:49:44] I was sleeping

[00:49:46] We'll be the judge of that Christine

[00:49:48] I was sleeping

[00:49:50] God I love Papa Bear

[00:49:52] But I was sleeping by myself

[00:49:54] And

[00:49:56] In the middle of the night in the pitch black

[00:49:58] An animal crawled on my leg

[00:50:00] And started digging into my leg

[00:50:02] Oh my god

[00:50:04] Yeah it was I was like

[00:50:06] I started screaming and then I heard it

[00:50:08] Scurry off into the jungle

[00:50:10] And since

[00:50:12] Ever since that particular night

[00:50:14] I would sleep with

[00:50:16] Rocks in my

[00:50:18] In my hands

[00:50:20] Like brass knuckles like the punch things

[00:50:24] No like rocks in my hands

[00:50:26] You know like I would be holding on to rocks

[00:50:28] In case something would come near me

[00:50:30] Oh throw the rocks okay

[00:50:32] Yeah but brass knuckles would work too

[00:50:34] Rocks definitely if I had them in my pocket

[00:50:36] That should have been my

[00:50:38] You know that

[00:50:40] That

[00:50:42] Item that you're wearing

[00:50:44] I think it was probably a rat right

[00:50:46] I think you're right

[00:50:48] I think it was like a Polynesian rat

[00:50:52] Something like that yeah so that was

[00:50:54] That was fun

[00:50:56] That was you love

[00:50:58] I think it was like

[00:51:00] Like you're wearing a

[00:51:02] A rat

[00:51:04] A rat

[00:51:06] And you know

[00:51:08] A rat

[00:51:10] A rat

[00:51:12] A rat

[00:51:14] A rat

[00:51:16] A rat

[00:51:18] A rat

[00:51:20] A rat

[00:51:22] A rat

[00:51:24] A rat

[00:51:26] Okay that's true

[00:51:28] But in Africa

[00:51:30] You know we had Frank that wanted to kill something

[00:51:32] He's a hunter

[00:51:34] We couldn't do any of that

[00:51:36] I want to ask you

[00:51:38] You were out there for two weeks

[00:51:40] You had to find your food

[00:51:42] Which was there

[00:51:44] How much weight did you lose

[00:51:46] Or did you

[00:51:48] Yeah I lost quite a bit

[00:51:50] I think I don't know because

[00:51:52] I'm a moron

[00:51:54] Okay. They use not.

[00:51:56] So they told me, you lost like two stone or something.

[00:52:00] Yeah.

[00:52:01] And I was too embarrassed to ask them what that meant.

[00:52:03] So I'm like, oh great, thanks.

[00:52:05] You know?

[00:52:06] Yeah.

[00:52:07] So I don't know how much I lost.

[00:52:08] I don't know what a stone is or a pebble

[00:52:11] or whatever the measurement they used.

[00:52:14] So I just said, oh.

[00:52:14] So a stone is 14 pounds.

[00:52:17] So you lost 28 pounds.

[00:52:18] Yeah.

[00:52:19] I thought I'm a very fast type or Christine.

[00:52:22] Wow.

[00:52:23] That's the only challenge I'd win on redemption island.

[00:52:26] The typing challenge.

[00:52:30] Bring it on, Cochran.

[00:52:31] Come on.

[00:52:32] Come on, Johnny.

[00:52:33] Type as fast as I can.

[00:52:36] So you lost at least.

[00:52:37] Not a lot.

[00:52:39] Yeah.

[00:52:39] Well, I think it was too stone or whatever.

[00:52:43] I don't remember exactly.

[00:52:44] I just made that up.

[00:52:45] I was lying.

[00:52:46] But it was, it was, I felt like I lost a lot.

[00:52:50] But another not so funny story that on redemption island,

[00:52:54] I would collect like you said, all of these hermit crabs.

[00:52:59] And I would draw a line in the sand

[00:53:02] and line up all my hermit crabs.

[00:53:03] You drew a line in the sand on day one, unfortunately.

[00:53:07] Yes.

[00:53:08] That's your problem.

[00:53:09] Good one, Rob.

[00:53:10] Very good.

[00:53:11] Too many lines in the sand.

[00:53:12] I still drew a line in the sand.

[00:53:14] And like my crabs, I lost.

[00:53:16] But so what I did was I drew a line in the sand.

[00:53:19] I lined up four or five hermit crabs

[00:53:21] and then drew another line about six inches away.

[00:53:24] And whichever crab crossed that finish line first,

[00:53:30] I threw in my pot and ate.

[00:53:33] Wow.

[00:53:33] This is like literally squid games

[00:53:36] that you're running over here.

[00:53:38] It was crazy.

[00:53:39] I started to go crazy.

[00:53:40] Different shellfish.

[00:53:42] So the winner actually lost.

[00:53:44] Exactly.

[00:53:45] Again, very well.

[00:53:46] That was cool.

[00:53:47] That was cool.

[00:53:47] The winner should have been spared, Christine.

[00:53:49] That was your own little redemption island

[00:53:52] that you were running.

[00:53:53] And the winner should have been,

[00:53:54] you're safe for another day.

[00:53:56] Loser, your dinner.

[00:53:58] Yep.

[00:53:59] I know.

[00:54:00] It was messed up.

[00:54:00] I was going crazy.

[00:54:02] Just going crazy.

[00:54:03] But it was very reminiscent of when

[00:54:05] I drew the line in the sand.

[00:54:06] Like I drew a line and I lost.

[00:54:09] That's true.

[00:54:09] So I was eating.

[00:54:10] Yeah.

[00:54:11] Christine, I think I know the answer to this.

[00:54:13] But you don't keep up with following

[00:54:16] any of the people you played with on social media, do you?

[00:54:21] No, I don't.

[00:54:23] I'm really not on social media.

[00:54:24] I mostly just follow my kids with their doing.

[00:54:28] That's about it.

[00:54:29] No, I just, I don't know.

[00:54:32] Just so busy and whatever.

[00:54:35] And it's just not my bag, I guess.

[00:54:38] Has Papa Bear informed you about what Ozzy has been

[00:54:43] up to the last couple of years?

[00:54:47] The only thing I remember about Ozzy

[00:54:50] was like some menage toire or something.

[00:54:52] I don't know.

[00:54:53] Yeah, OK.

[00:54:55] Something like that.

[00:54:56] He's so good, Papa Bear.

[00:54:57] He keeps me informed.

[00:54:58] He sends me texts and things.

[00:55:00] Yeah.

[00:55:00] So it was something.

[00:55:01] What's going on?

[00:55:03] Clearly.

[00:55:03] Been very successful.

[00:55:05] Yes.

[00:55:05] In that area.

[00:55:07] Yeah.

[00:55:09] So yeah, that's about it.

[00:55:10] I thought he was supposed to open up

[00:55:13] some adventure park in Mexico or something.

[00:55:16] I don't know.

[00:55:17] I don't know.

[00:55:18] And I think he told me that Sophie had a baby or two.

[00:55:22] Sophie is a mom, yes.

[00:55:24] That's right.

[00:55:25] Sophie is married.

[00:55:26] She has a baby.

[00:55:27] Oh, awesome.

[00:55:29] That's good for her.

[00:55:30] Yeah.

[00:55:31] That's great.

[00:55:32] So yeah, so that's about it.

[00:55:34] I think I'm friends with Makayla on something.

[00:55:39] But I'm not exactly sure what.

[00:55:41] And who else?

[00:55:43] Stacey?

[00:55:44] Don't ask me about Whitney and Keith.

[00:55:45] I don't have any updates about how they're doing.

[00:55:48] Oh, Bama.

[00:55:49] We called them Bama.

[00:55:52] Bama and Whitney.

[00:55:54] I think don't they have a kid too?

[00:55:56] You know what?

[00:55:56] I don't know.

[00:55:58] I don't have any updates.

[00:55:59] I'm sorry.

[00:56:00] They're not on social media.

[00:56:02] I thought she was like a singer.

[00:56:04] And if you're a singer, you have to be.

[00:56:05] I don't know.

[00:56:05] Maybe T-Bird can find that out.

[00:56:08] Oh, T-Bird can find it.

[00:56:09] See if you can get Whitney and Keith

[00:56:11] for talking with T-Bird.

[00:56:12] Yeah.

[00:56:13] Oh, she'll get it.

[00:56:14] We'll get them on at the same time.

[00:56:16] Yeah.

[00:56:17] And Keith, you're so noted.

[00:56:19] So, Christine, I met Ozzie like three or four months ago

[00:56:23] here in Atlanta for the first time ever.

[00:56:25] And I have to tell you my first impression of him.

[00:56:28] He was very gracious, very kind.

[00:56:32] Everybody was falling all over him.

[00:56:37] And he was so humble and so nice.

[00:56:41] And I was very nice.

[00:56:44] Yeah, I agree.

[00:56:46] I agree.

[00:56:46] Pleasant.

[00:56:47] He was.

[00:56:49] Like again, I haven't seen him since the reunion show.

[00:56:52] But he's so humble and so kind and so gracious.

[00:56:59] My cousin's daughter came to the reunion show also.

[00:57:05] And he was signing autographs.

[00:57:08] People were flocking to him.

[00:57:10] And he was just so kind and so gracious

[00:57:12] and gave everyone time.

[00:57:17] Really, really nice.

[00:57:18] I think he was a good guy.

[00:57:20] And when we were on Redemption Island for that one night,

[00:57:22] he was so like we talked a lot about why

[00:57:27] we wanted to stay in the game.

[00:57:30] He said he wanted to bring his dad out

[00:57:31] for like that family, like the family.

[00:57:37] Yeah, family visit.

[00:57:38] Yeah.

[00:57:38] Family visit.

[00:57:41] He wants to bring his dad out really, really bad.

[00:57:43] I want to bring my husband out.

[00:57:45] So we were talking about that.

[00:57:48] And it was just so sweet.

[00:57:49] He was just really, really nice guy.

[00:57:53] Really good to, if you had to be stranded on an island,

[00:57:58] he's one of the guys along with Papa Bear.

[00:58:01] Yeah.

[00:58:03] The fans have really embraced Ozzy over the last couple

[00:58:06] of years.

[00:58:06] He's really been nice to see because I think he kind of

[00:58:09] was misunderstood over the course of his seasons

[00:58:13] by a lot of the fans.

[00:58:15] Chrissie, I would love to know a little bit more

[00:58:16] about when you went to the finale, went to the reunion.

[00:58:20] Were there any awkward moments where you and Stacey

[00:58:25] were reunited with coach?

[00:58:28] Benjamin.

[00:58:32] You want to know something funny?

[00:58:34] He didn't, I don't care about awkward moments.

[00:58:39] Yeah.

[00:58:40] I'm like, whatever.

[00:58:42] Awkward, not.

[00:58:44] It doesn't affect me that much.

[00:58:46] But Stacey and I did not say two words to him.

[00:58:51] And he didn't say two words to us.

[00:58:53] He was just like, we were insignificant to him.

[00:58:57] He was insignificant to us.

[00:59:00] But he was on the final three sitting way below us.

[00:59:03] And we were sitting all the way in the hell on the top.

[00:59:05] So clearly he did something a lot better than we did.

[00:59:09] But yeah, we really didn't even speak to each other.

[00:59:13] Yeah.

[00:59:14] So yeah, well, well.

[00:59:16] Christine, I don't know if this makes you feel any better.

[00:59:19] I think it might.

[00:59:20] I have had no interaction with coach either.

[00:59:23] And I've actually reached out to him, but no response at all.

[00:59:33] Well, he's probably slaying dragons.

[00:59:36] You can't bother somebody when they're slaying dragons.

[00:59:40] You know what I mean?

[00:59:41] He's busy or he might have gotten kidnapped by pygmies again.

[00:59:48] Yeah, I think he's still active.

[00:59:50] I think he's I think he's still out there.

[00:59:52] Yeah.

[00:59:53] Yeah.

[00:59:53] Is he in the survival world too?

[00:59:56] I don't even know.

[00:59:56] Yeah.

[00:59:57] I mean, I think he stays active, you know,

[00:59:59] who puts out some tweets here and there also.

[01:00:03] I think people, you know, are people here from him?

[01:00:07] Rob, I think I'm going to tag it when we put this this podcast up.

[01:00:11] We're going to have to tag coach.

[01:00:14] Christine, now also right now, this kind of surprised me.

[01:00:17] So survivor was life changing for me.

[01:00:20] Was it for you, Rob?

[01:00:21] I mean, so I would say the experience of being on survivor

[01:00:27] changed my life more so than like what they have in the show

[01:00:31] where the the actual time I spent on survivor was not life

[01:00:37] life changing, if that makes sense.

[01:00:39] Right. So but Christine going through this experience of like

[01:00:44] being on TV changed my life more so than living in the jungle

[01:00:49] changed my life.

[01:00:51] And Christine, I had read that you did not find it life changing.

[01:00:55] It was just well, I think kind of just springboarding off

[01:00:58] with off of what Rob said, you know, being on the island

[01:01:03] and being by myself and sleeping on the beach and, you know, killing

[01:01:08] my own food, not that I kill my own food all the time, but, you know,

[01:01:11] that wasn't life changing.

[01:01:14] But I guess what was like it didn't change my life as far as,

[01:01:19] you know, what I did.

[01:01:20] And I think the the biggest way it changed my life was now

[01:01:27] when people like I see like my students or whatever,

[01:01:31] Miss, she is, yo, you are on survivor. No way. No way.

[01:01:35] So I think that kind of changed my life because it gives me

[01:01:38] something to talk about because otherwise I'm pretty boring.

[01:01:42] You know, so at least it gave me that or I'm at a party.

[01:01:47] You know, oh, yes, she's she was on survivor.

[01:01:49] And then people ask me questions and, you know, so that,

[01:01:52] I guess, was life changing.

[01:01:54] Do you like that, Christine?

[01:01:55] Do you like when people bring it up or do you? Yeah.

[01:02:00] But, you know, I always wait till someone else brings up.

[01:02:03] I'm not going to be like, oh, I'm 15.

[01:02:05] I was on survivor.

[01:02:06] You know, that may. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

[01:02:10] But yeah, I think it's fun.

[01:02:12] And I know my way around a machete and a coconut much more now.

[01:02:16] So, you know, that, I guess, was good.

[01:02:20] But other than that, I don't think it changed my life.

[01:02:24] Like I said, I'm still doing laundry.

[01:02:28] You know, I think I thought this was really interesting and I love I love this.

[01:02:32] So when I played my children were five and eight, they could care less.

[01:02:37] Even now they could care less.

[01:02:39] They've never watched the show back.

[01:02:41] They could care less.

[01:02:42] It robs boys were a bit while they weren't even born yet.

[01:02:45] So they were just a glimmer in the first lady podcasting's eyes

[01:02:51] when I played, but your your son shot your video.

[01:02:55] And then I read that for him, it was really

[01:02:59] for him, maybe a little life changing that his mom was on the show

[01:03:03] because he was like a rock star at school.

[01:03:06] Yeah, because of that.

[01:03:08] Yes. If you want to talk about that, I think that is really very special.

[01:03:12] Yes. He had had some difficulty just kind of, you know, navigating through school.

[01:03:18] So that, oh my God, I'm going to start crying because I'm a big fat baby.

[01:03:23] But for that, for that season, you know, people were stopping him in the hallway.

[01:03:31] You know, Vin, you know, your mom, she kicked asless.

[01:03:34] You know, so that was really, really special.

[01:03:38] He was he was the king of the school for that, for that few

[01:03:43] for those few months where he he kind of wasn't prior to that

[01:03:47] because he just had some difficulty, you know.

[01:03:50] So I said, I always say for for that reason alone,

[01:03:56] it was worth all of the hardships and being on Redemption Island

[01:04:01] and, you know, dealing with people that

[01:04:05] I don't usually would want to deal with in real life.

[01:04:08] You know, all of those things that led up to it.

[01:04:12] That was worth it. 100 percent.

[01:04:14] I do it all over again for him to feel the way he felt for those few months.

[01:04:20] It was just awesome. Yeah.

[01:04:21] Yeah. And at the reunion show, he was at the reunion show and Jeff's brother

[01:04:27] was like the emcee. OK.

[01:04:30] And he he I don't know, somehow my son got the microphone.

[01:04:37] And he was like my son was just talking and talking to the whole audience.

[01:04:41] I wish I could get that that audio because he was talking and talking and talking.

[01:04:46] And finally, I don't know.

[01:04:48] I forgot Jeff's brother's name.

[01:04:51] Whatever Jeff's brother said.

[01:04:53] So kid, where's your parents?

[01:04:55] You know, because we just my husband just let him talk and talk.

[01:04:59] And he said, oh, my mom's on stage.

[01:05:01] No way. And the whole crowd goes crazy like it was.

[01:05:04] So just for him, that was that was.

[01:05:08] That was totally worth it.

[01:05:10] The whole the whole bit.

[01:05:11] Chris, how old was he when you when you played?

[01:05:14] How old was he then?

[01:05:16] Oh, what is it?

[01:05:18] He was 10. 10 or 11.

[01:05:21] Yeah. So he was it was pretty big for him.

[01:05:27] It was really big for him.

[01:05:29] Yeah. So it was good.

[01:05:30] My daughter, she was like, yeah, what?

[01:05:34] The way my kids are.

[01:05:36] Yeah. Or she's like.

[01:05:39] I didn't know Jeff had a brother.

[01:05:41] I thought he did.

[01:05:42] Yeah.

[01:05:43] Jeff's brother, Jeff's brother.

[01:05:46] Yeah, I think he was the emcee.

[01:05:48] And then after the reunion, like they came back into the green room

[01:05:52] or whatever it was called, Jeff's brother kind of like sought my son out

[01:05:56] and they chatted again.

[01:05:57] Like it was really it was really fun for him.

[01:06:00] It was really a lot of fun.

[01:06:02] I was it was good.

[01:06:03] OK, T Bird, anything else for Christine?

[01:06:08] Oh, Christine, I again,

[01:06:10] I cannot thank you enough for doing this.

[01:06:12] I actually said I sent her a tweet since she's not on Twitter.

[01:06:16] I kept telling her that people want to hear from her.

[01:06:19] And she's like, she said, I don't have anything.

[01:06:21] I'm not interesting.

[01:06:23] So I sent her this tweet last week, just last week.

[01:06:26] And all these people had commented and retweeted how they wanted to hear

[01:06:30] from her. So thank you so much.

[01:06:32] Thank you so much to cousin Tim.

[01:06:35] Thank you. Thank you, Tim.

[01:06:38] Tim's awesome.

[01:06:39] I saw him just last week.

[01:06:41] So it's so funny, one last funny story.

[01:06:44] I had not fun story.

[01:06:45] So I had in the in my beautiful intro,

[01:06:49] the the Oaks, I was taking notes during my beautiful intro

[01:06:52] because I'm like, oh, look at all these great things.

[01:06:55] You said that every like I when I was on redemption Island every day,

[01:06:58] I had flowers and I made like a little.

[01:07:03] I took a coconut.

[01:07:04] I chopped it open.

[01:07:05] I kind of shimmy to straw out of the palm frond.

[01:07:09] And then I would put like a frangipan as a flower in it.

[01:07:13] So I could pretend I was like in a resort or whatever.

[01:07:17] Yeah, I did that every day when the sun hit the top of the.

[01:07:20] But you gave the resort one star

[01:07:23] when you said redemption Island sucks.

[01:07:28] Yeah, I had to.

[01:07:29] But you know what? That one star I made myself.

[01:07:32] Like I had to produce that one star.

[01:07:34] But anyway, so when I during when

[01:07:37] during the season, when it was airing

[01:07:41] on Facebook, I had a tattoo contest

[01:07:44] that whoever could come up with like, you know, a tattoo that

[01:07:49] represented my time on.

[01:07:51] Yeah. On the show, like I would get that tattooed on my shoulder.

[01:07:56] Yes. And the person who won

[01:07:59] was the person who that that took that piece

[01:08:03] with the flowers and the coconut and the, you know, that hope it.

[01:08:07] And she drew a picture and I got that tattooed.

[01:08:11] Oh, that's very interesting.

[01:08:13] Isn't that what you're showing?

[01:08:14] This thing is that where you're showing on your arm right there?

[01:08:17] Yeah, I don't know if you can see it.

[01:08:18] You can't see it. Wow.

[01:08:21] Yeah. That one.

[01:08:22] You can see the coconut and the straw.

[01:08:25] Yeah, it was really fun.

[01:08:26] So what's written on your arm?

[01:08:28] What's written on your arm there, Christine?

[01:08:29] What does it say? Your other arm, your other arm.

[01:08:32] How many tattoos you have?

[01:08:33] You have a lot of what is this one over here?

[01:08:35] You've got something written across the thing. What does it say?

[01:08:38] Yes, no little plans.

[01:08:39] It's a it's a quote, but can you tell what does it mean?

[01:08:43] Make no little plans.

[01:08:44] What does it mean?

[01:08:45] Well, it was this architect Google really fast.

[01:08:47] This architect. Go Rob. Go Rob.

[01:08:52] He was the architect for like I

[01:08:56] Union Station in D.C., the gridiron building in Manhattan.

[01:08:59] And he said like he was the beginning of the speech,

[01:09:03] you know, making a little plans for they do not.

[01:09:05] What does it say on Google?

[01:09:06] They have no magic to stir men's blood.

[01:09:08] Blood. Yeah. So I figure.

[01:09:11] I like it. Yeah.

[01:09:13] I like that too.

[01:09:14] Yeah, make no little plans.

[01:09:15] People say, why don't you just write make big plans?

[01:09:18] But it was a part of the speech that I like.

[01:09:20] Yeah. OK. That's it.

[01:09:24] That's it.

[01:09:25] I know you're not super online.

[01:09:27] Is there anything you want to tell people to check out?

[01:09:35] Check out, I don't know.

[01:09:37] Check out some books from the library, I guess.

[01:09:39] Yeah, it's good. Yes.

[01:09:40] More reading.

[01:09:42] That is very very good.

[01:09:45] Yes.

[01:09:46] Hey, tell me, do you still teach English or languages?

[01:09:49] I know you're fluent in Spanish.

[01:09:50] What do you teach at what grade?

[01:09:52] I teach English to students of other languages

[01:09:55] and I teach A312.

[01:09:57] I bet they love you.

[01:09:59] Yeah, we have a really good time.

[01:10:01] I'm pretty sarcastic.

[01:10:03] So I think they kind of yeah, shocking.

[01:10:07] They kind of are drawn to that like they get it

[01:10:11] more than the kindergartners did.

[01:10:13] You know, the kindergartners are like, what?

[01:10:15] What are you talking about?

[01:10:16] I'm like, oh, forget it.

[01:10:17] So so yeah, so it's it's fun.

[01:10:20] I have a great time with them.

[01:10:22] How many years have you been teaching now, Christine?

[01:10:24] Twenty five.

[01:10:27] Yeah, I got a retire, I think.

[01:10:31] What will they do without you, Christine?

[01:10:33] What would you do without them?

[01:10:35] That's the question.

[01:10:36] What would I do without them?

[01:10:37] I think my super my bosses would be fine without me.

[01:10:41] You could plan that trip to could plan that trip to Hawaii.

[01:10:44] Yes, that's a good idea.

[01:10:46] My daughter wants to go in December.

[01:10:48] I will say so.

[01:10:50] Yeah, but yeah, we have to I think people should check out

[01:10:54] a way to get me back on to Sarira.

[01:10:56] That's what they should.

[01:10:57] OK, well, we know there'll be fireworks.

[01:11:00] Yeah, it's going to start something.

[01:11:01] Yes, Christine, this is going to start something.

[01:11:05] I hope so.

[01:11:05] That would be fun.

[01:11:07] Yeah, except now that I'm 11 years older

[01:11:10] and I'm like a little, you know,

[01:11:13] little stiffer and older and.

[01:11:17] Cremuginally, but I'll go on it.

[01:11:20] I mean, one in.

[01:11:21] Do they still have 19 people or something?

[01:11:23] Or how many 18 typically?

[01:11:25] Yeah, 18.

[01:11:27] You have a one in 18 chance of winning a million.

[01:11:29] Is it still a million dollars?

[01:11:30] Still a million dollars. Yeah.

[01:11:31] Yeah, Rob, tell CBS to up that.

[01:11:33] But then the million isn't what it used to be, Christine.

[01:11:38] Yeah. And you're really how much do you bring home?

[01:11:40] So you're not a millionaire.

[01:11:41] You're like a six hundred thousand dollar air.

[01:11:44] Yeah, you know, tell CBS.

[01:11:46] OK, I'll put it.

[01:11:48] Yeah, but not as many days now, Christine.

[01:11:50] So there's always there's deflation on the day.

[01:11:53] OK, I'm not working as hard.

[01:11:55] Yeah, yes.

[01:11:57] Yeah, are you forty nine?

[01:11:59] Are you forty nine and holding?

[01:12:01] No, I'm fifty.

[01:12:03] I'll be fifty two.

[01:12:05] Mm hmm. In a few weeks.

[01:12:07] Well, you look I can see you and you're beautiful.

[01:12:11] You're so sweet.

[01:12:12] So Christine, what are you doing to stay in shape?

[01:12:14] Because I know before, like I mentioned about you swimming

[01:12:18] and biking and doing triathlons and all this,

[01:12:21] what are you doing now to stay in?

[01:12:22] Yeah, I don't do.

[01:12:23] Fifty two. I know almost fifty two.

[01:12:26] I don't do. I used to do sprint triathlon.

[01:12:29] So, you know, manage expectations again.

[01:12:33] But I don't do that anymore.

[01:12:34] I like I ride my bike.

[01:12:37] I do. I'm really into hot yoga, like OK.

[01:12:41] Yoga and I still run.

[01:12:44] You know, and I but I do like a good donut.

[01:12:47] We know.

[01:12:50] OK, what kind of donut?

[01:12:51] What kind of donut, Christine?

[01:12:52] Oh, any donut they put in front of me.

[01:12:55] Anyone. No, well, I shouldn't say that.

[01:12:58] I don't like chocolate, so no chocolate donuts.

[01:13:00] Oh, well, that's a big one to go from any donut to no chocolate.

[01:13:04] Yeah, that's true.

[01:13:05] I mean, I'm sure I get it down, you know,

[01:13:09] but I wouldn't get it down happily.

[01:13:11] Mm hmm. Yeah. But I still eat it. OK.

[01:13:13] All right. So, Rob, this is my last question for Christine.

[01:13:16] All right, Christine, we're going to start like Rob said,

[01:13:18] fireworks are starting after this.

[01:13:20] You're going to go out and play again.

[01:13:22] How would you alter your game play or could you just not help yourself,

[01:13:26] even with Tim coaching you?

[01:13:29] That is such a great question, Tiber.

[01:13:32] Like I think I would have to be like the anti George,

[01:13:38] you know, on Seinfeld.

[01:13:40] They told George, look, whatever you think, do the opposite.

[01:13:45] So I guess I would have to do that.

[01:13:47] Whatever my instinct would be, I would have to do the anti Christine

[01:13:52] and just do the opposite of whatever I thought was what I should do.

[01:13:56] You know what I mean?

[01:13:57] So I guess I guess that that I would do that.

[01:14:02] And yeah, I would do that.

[01:14:04] And but I kind of know myself.

[01:14:08] I've been with myself for now almost 52 years.

[01:14:11] I would try my hardest to keep my mouth shut

[01:14:17] and but I just think, you know, my DNA, it just it's just too strong.

[01:14:24] And I try and it's like one of those.

[01:14:27] And then it just comes out.

[01:14:29] So I would try very hard to do be the anti Christine,

[01:14:32] but I don't think it would work.

[01:14:36] All right. Well, we just have to see Christine.

[01:14:38] You were so much fun to get to talk to.

[01:14:41] Thank you to cousin Tim for telling you to do this

[01:14:45] because this was a really, really fun one today.

[01:14:49] Oh, thanks. You're so sweet.

[01:14:51] Thank you, Christine. That's very nice.

[01:14:53] OK, thank you so much. All right.

[01:14:55] Yeah, Christine, thank you.

[01:14:57] And I hope that we could talk to you again soon.

[01:15:00] I hope so. This was fun.

[01:15:01] OK. All right. Take it easy, everybody.

[01:15:05] All right, T-Bird, there you have it.

[01:15:07] Christine Shields Markoski.

[01:15:11] Yes, Rob.

[01:15:13] I've been trying to get Christine for a while,

[01:15:16] so you know, color my excitement when we got her own here today.

[01:15:20] And I know all of her fans are going to be loving hearing from her.

[01:15:23] Yeah. Well, this will be.

[01:15:26] Yeah, I think people are going to like this one.

[01:15:28] That was fun. Yeah. Yeah. OK.

[01:15:31] All right. T-Bird, I can't believe she's not been asked to play, Rob.

[01:15:35] Again, I'm shocked.

[01:15:36] So I am surprised that they did not call her for blood versus water

[01:15:41] because I feel like that they reached out to almost everybody

[01:15:45] coming up on the when they were looking to do the blood versus water season.

[01:15:50] Yeah. So well, even second chances, I mean, I think I mean,

[01:15:55] I know Mikaela and Jim were great second chance, you know,

[01:15:59] to be in the running, but but Christine, I mean.

[01:16:03] Yeah. OK.

[01:16:05] Hey, it's not too late. Maybe they if they had a do over,

[01:16:08] maybe they get her, but I don't know.

[01:16:10] I don't know what they were thinking. All right, T-Bird.

[01:16:12] Never say Rob, never say die and make no little plans.

[01:16:16] Yes. Yes. See.

[01:16:17] All right, T-Bird, what's coming up for you?

[01:16:21] Well, let's see.

[01:16:22] I guess I'm going to be trying to find Whitney and Keith.

[01:16:25] Yeah. OK. See if you can find them for me.

[01:16:28] So, Rob, Whitney and Keith, I hate to say this so I don't even know.

[01:16:32] So Whitney and Keith were on this season

[01:16:34] and obviously from what I'm hearing from you guys that got married.

[01:16:38] Yeah. See, I did not know that.

[01:16:40] I did not know that. So yeah.

[01:16:42] But I'm telling you right now, I'm fascinated with this cast

[01:16:45] as far as the professions.

[01:16:47] I think this cast has the most unusual professions.

[01:16:51] Do you remember some of them, Rob?

[01:16:53] Do you want to quiz me?

[01:16:54] Yeah, I do. I do. I do. Sam Har.

[01:16:57] Don't be don't be doing your fingers real quick on the computer.

[01:16:59] Sam Har, she was a poet.

[01:17:02] OK. Spoken word artist.

[01:17:04] Yeah. Yeah. Spoken.

[01:17:06] OK, well, that's good. All right.

[01:17:07] Stacy Powell, Stacy Powell at the.

[01:17:10] Well, I don't know what she does now, but at the time of the survivor

[01:17:14] South Pacific, I believe she was a mortician.

[01:17:16] Yes. OK. Or I'm a funeral home director.

[01:17:20] I'm not sure. I think they should mortician.

[01:17:22] No, that's right. All right.

[01:17:23] Micaela Micaela was a

[01:17:27] lingerie football player.

[01:17:30] What? How do you get that?

[01:17:33] And what is that?

[01:17:34] What is a lingerie football player?

[01:17:36] And by the way, she is beautiful.

[01:17:38] Tiber, I mean, I mean,

[01:17:40] I don't know.

[01:17:42] I don't want to speak out of school, but I'm pretty sure it's exactly as it sounds.

[01:17:45] Yeah. OK.

[01:17:47] Jim Rice, Jim Rice.

[01:17:50] He was a owned a medical marijuana dispensary.

[01:17:56] Yes. So back in 2011, I guess that was kind of a big thing, right?

[01:18:00] It was kind of a new thing. OK.

[01:18:03] All right, Whitney, you got this one.

[01:18:05] Whitney was a singer.

[01:18:07] Country music singer. OK. Yes.

[01:18:09] And Edna Ma. Edna Ma.

[01:18:11] So.

[01:18:14] She she works in the medical field,

[01:18:18] but they say that she was a doctor.

[01:18:23] A very impressive profession.

[01:18:26] The ones that you say if you're going to be a doctor,

[01:18:28] this is a really good one because you can kind of set your hours.

[01:18:31] Oh, OK.

[01:18:32] A specific type of doctor?

[01:18:33] Is she a surgeon? Yes.

[01:18:35] No. What? She gets it.

[01:18:37] She prepped some before the surgery.

[01:18:38] Oh, an anesthesiologist. Yes.

[01:18:40] Yes. Rob, I'm impressed.

[01:18:43] That was really impressive there.

[01:18:44] I mean, this might be a good game for me of like go through a season.

[01:18:48] I'll tell you what everybody's job was.

[01:18:50] Well, I know, but don't be looking through them.

[01:18:51] But you know, I was deeper.

[01:18:53] Believe me, I won't.

[01:18:54] I'm not going to sit here and study

[01:18:56] everybody's jobs to pass the keyboard.

[01:18:59] Your voice just got high as you were saying.

[01:19:02] I'm incredulous that you think I would do that.

[01:19:06] No, I don't think you do that.

[01:19:08] Yeah, I was really impressed.

[01:19:09] Real quick, real quick, Sam, Sam Moore, Sam Moore.

[01:19:13] What would I would I study the jobs

[01:19:17] of the survivors to win Teabirds Quiz?

[01:19:20] No, and I could see Rob.

[01:19:22] He is not typing.

[01:19:23] He's he got this on his own.

[01:19:26] I know he's not.

[01:19:27] Thank you, Sam.

[01:19:28] No problem. Thank you.

[01:19:29] OK, all right.

[01:19:31] You guys are glued at the hip.

[01:19:32] Come on, Rob.

[01:19:33] What do you think?

[01:19:34] And you think that I'm having Sam lie for me?

[01:19:37] No, I don't.

[01:19:38] I don't officially don't.

[01:19:40] No, I don't. I don't know.

[01:19:42] I do not think that.

[01:19:43] I do not think that.

[01:19:44] OK, I do not think that.

[01:19:46] All right. Yes.

[01:19:48] Teabird.

[01:19:49] All right.

[01:19:49] I'm going to give you the quiz next and see how many people you.

[01:19:52] I'm not going to pass this quiz.

[01:19:55] What?

[01:19:57] I don't even know how many states I've been to, Rob.

[01:19:59] So what did you sleep there?

[01:20:01] Yeah. All right.

[01:20:02] All right, Teabird, let's start to wrap this up.

[01:20:04] Where could people keep up with you, Teabird?

[01:20:06] Teabird Cooper.

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[01:20:19] Have a good one. Bye.

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