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[00:02:40] Hey, everybody. What's going on?
[00:02:42] Rob Sastrovino back here to kick off a summer of Survivor
[00:02:47] here on RHAP.
[00:02:49] School's out for summer, but we are ready to rock every Wednesday night
[00:02:57] as we have a very special off-season series
[00:03:01] to tell you about here tonight.
[00:03:03] Of course, I am joined by two of the greatest Survivor minds
[00:03:08] in the free world.
[00:03:09] Of course, someone who should be no stranger to your feet these days
[00:03:13] as that he will be coming to you for every weekday for 46 days
[00:03:20] starting this Friday.
[00:03:21] It's Mike Bloom!
[00:03:24] So excited, Rob, to kick off Summer of Survivor.
[00:03:27] I think we can abbreviate this to SOS
[00:03:29] because we're kicking this off on a Mayday.
[00:03:32] Wow!
[00:03:34] Whoa, okay.
[00:03:36] It's my summer look.
[00:03:38] I won't be going outside much.
[00:03:40] I thought you were doing CSI Miami.
[00:03:42] I mean, por que no los dos.
[00:03:44] I've missed so much already.
[00:03:46] Can you explain every part of that to me?
[00:03:49] And of course back with us,
[00:03:51] a woman celebrating summer as we speak,
[00:03:54] our chief international Survivor correspondent, Shannon Guss.
[00:03:58] Hello, a few things.
[00:03:59] Firstly, I was trying not to laugh
[00:04:01] because Rob came in with so much energy,
[00:04:03] which was awesome, but I just wasn't expecting it
[00:04:05] because before the podcast we're just like chatting.
[00:04:08] But then we do the podcast and Rob's like...
[00:04:10] It was just so much, and I loved it.
[00:04:12] Yeah, I'm here in a t-shirt trying to fit in,
[00:04:15] but I'm actually really cold.
[00:04:17] Can I go get a jumper?
[00:04:19] For people who may not be climately inclined,
[00:04:22] it is Shannon's winter technically this Summer of Survivor.
[00:04:26] Yeah, so I'm usually a little rugged up,
[00:04:28] and I probably will be in the future.
[00:04:30] I have this one RHAP jumper,
[00:04:32] not to plug the merch too much,
[00:04:33] but I do wear it every day.
[00:04:34] And Peter was like, please wash that jumper.
[00:04:36] So I'm wearing this,
[00:04:38] and I'm here talking about my laundry.
[00:04:41] Okay, all right.
[00:04:43] Well, we have a very special episode tonight
[00:04:46] because we are going to be taking
[00:04:49] all of our listeners' submitted ideas
[00:04:52] for Summer of Survivor podcast.
[00:04:56] And so tonight we will be going through
[00:04:59] some of your most interesting suggestions here.
[00:05:03] Tonight I am coming in...
[00:05:06] I guess blind?
[00:05:08] Is it a picture book?
[00:05:10] I'm coming in hot,
[00:05:11] but also I do not know what is in store.
[00:05:14] Hot and blind.
[00:05:15] Yes, that's on Netflix, I think.
[00:05:18] Hot and blind.
[00:05:19] We are going to talk about all of your ideas.
[00:05:23] And then at the end of this episode
[00:05:25] we will decide what podcast we do
[00:05:28] next Wednesday night.
[00:05:30] And that will be the format here each week
[00:05:32] as we are borrowing a little bit from RNAP
[00:05:36] where we're going to have
[00:05:38] a bunch of suggestions here tonight.
[00:05:40] We will have a short list of things
[00:05:42] and then we will decide
[00:05:44] what we want to do next week
[00:05:46] as we listen to more interesting suggestions each week.
[00:05:50] Yes, that's the thing is that
[00:05:52] people are probably thinking
[00:05:53] that kind of sounds like RNAP.
[00:05:54] You're wrong, it's a lot like RNAP.
[00:05:56] But I would say...
[00:05:57] There's no wheel.
[00:05:58] It's not random.
[00:05:59] That's the thing,
[00:06:00] we're not Tysoning it fully.
[00:06:01] We're not leaving this up to chance.
[00:06:03] Instead we're doing what you should do
[00:06:05] on Survivor which is vote.
[00:06:07] So at the end of the podcast
[00:06:09] we'll sort of put our champions forward
[00:06:11] and we'll try to come to some sort of consensus
[00:06:13] as to what to do the next week via vote.
[00:06:15] Yes, okay.
[00:06:16] And so we will have I'm sure
[00:06:18] many suggestions from the listeners.
[00:06:20] You can go to robinsofwebsite.com
[00:06:22] slash summerofsurvivor
[00:06:24] all lowercase as I learned today
[00:06:26] on social media.
[00:06:28] So disparaging.
[00:06:30] Yes, you have to
[00:06:32] put it all in lowercase
[00:06:34] or it won't work people
[00:06:36] and then you can send in your ideas
[00:06:38] and plus we will take them as well
[00:06:40] in the chat.
[00:06:42] I also am open
[00:06:44] to taking suggestions
[00:06:46] at robinsofwebsite.com slash voicemail.
[00:06:48] I also said that we should take calls
[00:06:50] live but I got outvoted on that one.
[00:06:52] Why would you?
[00:06:54] I will not take calls
[00:06:56] live until the after show
[00:06:58] is live personally.
[00:07:00] I live my life the way the after show is done.
[00:07:02] So until we bring that back I'm not taking calls
[00:07:04] live.
[00:07:06] That would be a wild thing to live your life that way by the way.
[00:07:08] I saw John Mulaney do it on Netflix and I wanted to do it too.
[00:07:10] I think if you follow a lot of things
[00:07:12] John Mulaney did you'd be in a lot of trouble.
[00:07:14] Yes, okay.
[00:07:16] Starting on Friday Mike Blume has a
[00:07:18] daily podcast series
[00:07:20] to bring you a preview
[00:07:22] of Survivor 50. Mike
[00:07:24] what do you have coming up?
[00:07:26] We're starting with the plugs early on.
[00:07:28] I love this.
[00:07:30] A very oft requested
[00:07:32] idea even in the 24 hours
[00:07:34] that we have opened up
[00:07:36] the floodgates here has been
[00:07:38] Survivor 50 was announced as returning.
[00:07:40] We need Survivor 50 content.
[00:07:42] We need casts for Survivor 50.
[00:07:44] We need deals for Survivor 50.
[00:07:46] So we are going to do a fan vote
[00:07:48] for Survivor 50.
[00:07:50] Why not? We don't know if we'll have one
[00:07:52] Cambodia style for Survivor 50
[00:07:54] so we felt let's put the power in our hands.
[00:07:56] Jeff Probst did admit
[00:07:58] that he was taking a look at some fan lists
[00:08:00] in preparation for Survivor 50
[00:08:02] and so when we are embarking on
[00:08:04] Why shouldn't we do a fan vote?
[00:08:06] Wait, he was looking at fan lists?
[00:08:08] He said fan lists.
[00:08:10] He said fan lists.
[00:08:12] Wait, when did he what?
[00:08:14] I mean listen
[00:08:16] this is Jeff Probst.
[00:08:18] Who knows the term fan is a very
[00:08:20] generous descriptor so we'll see
[00:08:22] exactly what that means.
[00:08:24] In fairness by fan list he meant
[00:08:26] a police interrogation video.
[00:08:28] Yes, exactly.
[00:08:30] Where the fans are blowing in the background.
[00:08:32] That's wild that he would even
[00:08:34] pretend to listen to the fans.
[00:08:36] I don't believe anything Jeff said since he said
[00:08:38] he was not going to do any seasons with yelling
[00:08:40] I was going to say he was going to do a Survivor 46
[00:08:42] but I was after the fact Shannon
[00:08:44] he recorded that after the season.
[00:08:46] He got you Bazinga.
[00:08:48] You really did.
[00:08:50] Yes, Jeff is Young Sheldon
[00:08:52] reincarnated, confirmed.
[00:08:54] Maybe we'll talk about that on a podcast
[00:08:56] maybe that's a conspiracy.
[00:08:58] Young Sheldon is a big Survivor fan right?
[00:09:00] He did get a cameo
[00:09:02] from Jeff Probst so
[00:09:04] I was talking about this
[00:09:06] Young Sheldon a Qmeo
[00:09:08] Is he a fan of Q?
[00:09:10] How could he not be?
[00:09:12] Young Sheldon
[00:09:14] they cancelled your show like they cancelled Christmas.
[00:09:16] They got a proper finale
[00:09:18] I don't think they got cancelled.
[00:09:20] He's going to college now
[00:09:22] We're losing the plot
[00:09:24] This is perfect.
[00:09:26] This is really valid because he is a really big fan
[00:09:28] of Survivor. Maybe we get him on one of the podcasts
[00:09:30] That could be a submission. Get a Young Sheldon
[00:09:32] Put a pin in this. It might be something I bring up
[00:09:34] almost immediately
[00:09:37] The idea of a vote
[00:09:39] Why are you doing a vote? It's not a vote
[00:09:41] But if we did a vote
[00:09:43] and we got a lot of votes
[00:09:45] I think they would
[00:09:47] look at our vote
[00:09:49] I have to imagine so
[00:09:51] You don't think they would look at our vote?
[00:09:53] How many people do we need to get to vote
[00:09:55] for them to look at it?
[00:09:57] They're never going to look at it
[00:09:59] It's like 1 million likes
[00:10:01] and my wife let me miss the birth of my child
[00:10:03] Who posted that?
[00:10:05] Not 1 million likes, 1 million hearts
[00:10:07] That would be the proper reaction
[00:10:09] It's not like that
[00:10:11] I don't think Jeff cares
[00:10:13] Somebody is going to look
[00:10:15] Regardless of whether
[00:10:17] who puts eyes on it
[00:10:19] You know who will? The listeners of RHAP
[00:10:21] How this is going to work is
[00:10:23] Starting this Friday
[00:10:25] Every weekday I'm going to be talking
[00:10:27] with one other person about a season of Survivor
[00:10:29] starting with Borneo
[00:10:31] because the 24th anniversary is this Friday
[00:10:33] We're going to go through that season's cast
[00:10:35] and we're going to determine
[00:10:37] a short list of candidates
[00:10:39] that we feel should or could
[00:10:41] come back for Survivor 50
[00:10:43] We'll then take all those candidates
[00:10:45] across all those seasons
[00:10:47] put them in one big pool
[00:10:49] that will then be voted upon by the fans
[00:10:51] Granted we are winnowing it down
[00:10:53] from a pool of 600 plus
[00:10:55] to a pool of 100 plus
[00:10:57] but we're going to try to use this as a grand experiment
[00:10:59] to figure out
[00:11:01] who are people that could probably show up on a 50
[00:11:03] depending on where they go
[00:11:05] and who are some people we want to see come out of the woodwork
[00:11:07] I think it's going to be really fun
[00:11:09] go through one season a day
[00:11:11] Sam said there's only two rules
[00:11:13] that have to be followed
[00:11:15] The podcasts are only allowed to be
[00:11:17] 50 minutes
[00:11:19] and we're only allowed to put
[00:11:21] three people onto the survey
[00:11:23] Those are the two rules
[00:11:25] that Sam made coming in
[00:11:27] We will see those rules inherently enforced
[00:11:29] as you Rob get together with me
[00:11:31] this Friday
[00:11:33] Looking forward to it
[00:11:35] Absolutely to usher in our first crop of shortlist
[00:11:37] contenders
[00:11:39] So for those that have been asking
[00:11:41] about Survivor 50 content
[00:11:43] don't worry, you are fed
[00:11:45] and you will be for the next couple
[00:11:47] of months
[00:11:49] I'm very excited for that
[00:11:51] kicking off this Friday
[00:11:53] but then starting again next Tuesday
[00:11:55] and then every weekday
[00:11:57] That's what's coming up
[00:11:59] starting on Friday
[00:12:01] excited for that
[00:12:03] but let's start to talk a little bit about
[00:12:05] the summer of Survivor
[00:12:07] Is it worth a check in
[00:12:09] and see how the Survivor 46 cast
[00:12:11] is doing
[00:12:13] Not great Bob
[00:12:15] Not great Rob
[00:12:17] Let's check in on them
[00:12:19] Maybe not
[00:12:23] So Survivor 46
[00:12:25] episode 14 aired last night
[00:12:27] Let's recap it
[00:12:29] It was a live tribal on Twitter
[00:12:31] last night
[00:12:33] Should we do the short short version
[00:12:35] No
[00:12:37] Okay
[00:12:39] Running down for people
[00:12:41] Imagine not being on Twitter
[00:12:43] I logged out for two days
[00:12:45] and I missed so much stuff
[00:12:47] It doesn't exist
[00:12:49] You literally are Donald Glover in that meme
[00:12:51] It really was
[00:12:53] Shannon went to bed
[00:12:55] Big mistake
[00:12:57] Last night
[00:12:59] There was
[00:13:01] I think actually
[00:13:03] Just to go back
[00:13:05] Somebody on the Survivor subreddit
[00:13:07] posted
[00:13:09] about how
[00:13:11] Venus had
[00:13:13] somebody spilled the tea
[00:13:15] on Cameo about Ponderosa
[00:13:17] and said that Maria was bad mouthing Charlie
[00:13:19] at Ponderosa campaigning against him
[00:13:21] The people on the subreddit were like
[00:13:23] We don't believe you
[00:13:25] This is a lie
[00:13:27] They goaded the person who had the Cameo
[00:13:29] who had the blind item
[00:13:31] to finally post their video
[00:13:33] and then posted the Cameo
[00:13:35] that was Venus
[00:13:37] Q posted a response
[00:13:39] video calling out
[00:13:41] Venus saying that
[00:13:43] she was wrong
[00:13:45] and she's spilling
[00:13:47] the tea and allegedly spying on people
[00:13:49] at Ponderosa
[00:13:51] Q says that
[00:13:53] Venus doesn't know what she's talking about
[00:13:55] Venus got very upset
[00:13:57] about this
[00:13:59] Kevin was posting
[00:14:01] about how
[00:14:03] We got cross platform stuff
[00:14:05] because the conversation also moved over to Instagram
[00:14:07] I appreciate by the way
[00:14:09] Instagram is for cat videos
[00:14:11] and for stalking
[00:14:13] I'm trying to get away from the drama
[00:14:15] Allegedly
[00:14:17] Allegedly
[00:14:19] Maria also issued a response
[00:14:21] put a microphone in front of me
[00:14:23] Yes to noted
[00:14:25] Twitter account
[00:14:27] rooting for Asians
[00:14:29] She said give me a mic
[00:14:31] Oh my goodness
[00:14:33] There was also a Twitter space that happened
[00:14:35] yesterday with several
[00:14:37] maybe not seven but certainly a good amount of alumni
[00:14:39] were in there chatting about things
[00:14:41] I don't think I'm completely
[00:14:43] surprised whatsoever that the Survivor 46
[00:14:45] cast took a three day weekend
[00:14:47] to unleash all hell upon the off season
[00:14:49] but hey if you're looking for a salve
[00:14:51] here we are
[00:14:53] Liz Wilcox bought a house
[00:14:55] Congratulations
[00:14:57] Is it an abandoned Applebee's?
[00:14:59] Is that what the house she bought?
[00:15:01] See this is why
[00:15:03] You're fine
[00:15:05] You don't need me
[00:15:07] Mr. Roybot on the chat
[00:15:09] I don't usually have a chat
[00:15:11] Ever since they started the podcast calling Rob daddy Rob
[00:15:13] because of his glasses
[00:15:15] He's a Survivor 46
[00:15:17] family that hates each other
[00:15:19] I don't agree
[00:15:21] I don't think they do get together
[00:15:23] I don't think that's the vibe
[00:15:25] They got together over the weekend
[00:15:27] where Hunter did this fun thing
[00:15:29] where he did an Instagram live
[00:15:31] where he brought them on to answer
[00:15:33] second grade science questions
[00:15:35] Should be noted though that he did bring them on
[00:15:37] one person at a time
[00:15:39] Maybe it's also the family gathering
[00:15:41] where it's like okay you come and get your Christmas present
[00:15:43] Is it fighting with each other or all banding together
[00:15:45] to fight against a common enemy?
[00:15:47] Honestly it depends on the time of day
[00:15:49] It could be really either or
[00:15:51] depending on the mood
[00:15:53] It's the same day usually
[00:15:55] It's usually like they'll attack each other
[00:15:57] and they'll be like guys don't attack the cast
[00:15:59] It's like you are doing that
[00:16:01] You're the one doing it
[00:16:03] but then other people pile on
[00:16:05] but it's just so unpleasant
[00:16:07] I guess it's entertaining for many
[00:16:09] but I think I'm too sensitive and too invested
[00:16:11] where I'm like
[00:16:13] I feel like the season is done
[00:16:15] Are we moving into the off season? I guess not
[00:16:17] Anyway good luck with the deep dives Rob
[00:16:19] Okay alright working on that
[00:16:21] as we speak
[00:16:23] So that's just a check in
[00:16:25] of the lay of the land
[00:16:27] but that's not what we're here to talk about tonight
[00:16:29] We are here to talk about the listener submitted
[00:16:31] ideas
[00:16:33] Mike how many ideas did we get
[00:16:35] coming into tonight?
[00:16:37] A whole slew of them
[00:16:40] I think there are some that Shannon and I
[00:16:42] came up with kind of in house
[00:16:44] and there were some that were solicited from the patrons
[00:16:46] of Rob Has a Podcast when this was announced last week
[00:16:48] and then there were some that were solicited
[00:16:50] through the Google form that you put out today
[00:16:52] as well so we have multiple sources
[00:16:54] to pull from and you mentioned it before but also
[00:16:56] bears saying again
[00:16:58] keep sending them in
[00:17:00] We're going to come up with a hefty short list
[00:17:02] tonight but that doesn't mean
[00:17:04] you can't keep sending us stuff
[00:17:06] I'm not going to say we'll do a full mailbag
[00:17:08] at the end of each podcast but I think if there are ideas
[00:17:10] that we pick out throughout the week
[00:17:12] we can certainly come in and bring them in for discussion
[00:17:14] Okay. Alright.
[00:17:16] So
[00:17:18] Are you two going to go back and forth?
[00:17:20] Do you have like a list?
[00:17:22] We really planned this
[00:17:24] Mike you spearhead it
[00:17:26] Let's see how that goes. Mike's going to lead it
[00:17:28] Okay. Yeah I can start with something
[00:17:30] because you brought this up beforehand
[00:17:32] and look
[00:17:34] I want to ring the Brandsteel bell
[00:17:36] Look I will spoil that at the end of this
[00:17:38] entire 50, season 50
[00:17:40] project which we're calling the Survivor 50
[00:17:42] wish list there will be a Brandsteel
[00:17:44] amongst the people that were chosen
[00:17:46] for that cast by the fans
[00:17:48] The 150 people?
[00:17:50] No the top 20. The people that were actually voted on to the season
[00:17:52] But maybe
[00:17:54] we could do one to start
[00:17:56] the season
[00:17:58] and I have two that I can propose for you
[00:18:00] at this moment
[00:18:02] The first would be a celebrity
[00:18:04] Survivor Brandsteel
[00:18:06] where we have celebrities
[00:18:08] who are fans of the show
[00:18:10] and there have been many
[00:18:12] and some seem to just pop up from nowhere
[00:18:14] Tom Holland gave an interview about how much he loved Michelle Fitzgerald
[00:18:16] as an example
[00:18:18] I think Sam behind the scenes had come up with a little
[00:18:20] Young Sheldon. Young Sheldon. Exactly
[00:18:22] Put him on there
[00:18:24] So we can throw together a season with a bunch
[00:18:26] of celebrities. The other one I have
[00:18:28] is of course in very recent news
[00:18:30] Can we do a Brandseattle?
[00:18:32] Could we do a Brandseal
[00:18:34] of all the Sia Award winners
[00:18:36] to see who will reign supreme
[00:18:38] and get all of Sia's
[00:18:40] earnings I suppose
[00:18:42] Yeah I mean the celebrity one
[00:18:44] I guess to me isn't like dissimilar
[00:18:46] enough from when you guys do it each year
[00:18:48] Oh no I disagree
[00:18:50] I think that the celebrity one
[00:18:52] What do we care about people that actually
[00:18:54] have played Survivor
[00:18:56] Do I care if like oh
[00:18:58] Donathan just
[00:19:00] blindsided
[00:19:02] Ryan Medrano
[00:19:04] but if we
[00:19:06] had the celebrities that
[00:19:08] are the super fans they might
[00:19:10] watch this Shannon
[00:19:12] Rob no one cares about what we're doing
[00:19:14] I don't know why you think
[00:19:16] We'll tag them all
[00:19:18] They are not watching it. We'll tag them all on
[00:19:20] Instagram. There we go
[00:19:22] This is a brilliant idea Mike
[00:19:24] Thank you. You don't think New Portugal has
[00:19:26] better things to do than watch our stupid Brandsteel
[00:19:28] Name one
[00:19:30] I'm so many
[00:19:32] I'm sure he's booked and busy. What are you insulting Neil Patrick Harris
[00:19:34] No but I'm just saying
[00:19:36] I haven't seen him much lately
[00:19:38] Me neither actually
[00:19:40] I'm going to actually do
[00:19:42] what Neil Patrick Harris is up to
[00:19:44] He was in Doctor Who
[00:19:46] See that's not fair. I don't watch Doctor Who
[00:19:48] Is it because these will be
[00:19:50] largely American celebrities
[00:19:52] For me
[00:19:54] Yes
[00:19:56] I'm on a US
[00:19:58] Survivor podcast right now Mike
[00:20:00] Matt in the chat says this is a great
[00:20:02] idea. One of them will watch and it will
[00:20:04] be worth it
[00:20:06] They're trying to get on the screen
[00:20:08] with their comments
[00:20:10] This is Sia's opportunity
[00:20:12] to put her former money
[00:20:14] where her mouth is
[00:20:16] We could get Kiki Palmer in there
[00:20:18] Brooke says you gotta get some C-list
[00:20:20] celebrities to bridge the gap
[00:20:22] No because then we gotta talk about
[00:20:24] Scott was in the audience of the Survivor Redemption Island
[00:20:26] finale. Throw him in there
[00:20:28] I think Megan Mullally and Nick Offerman are also
[00:20:30] fans of the show. Survivor celebrity fans
[00:20:32] are popping up places. We don't need to like
[00:20:34] Joe Manganiello
[00:20:36] Is that how you pronounce that?
[00:20:38] Yes it is
[00:20:40] It's true he did do Doctor Who
[00:20:42] but otherwise hasn't been doing a lot
[00:20:44] He did a guest in How I Met Your Father
[00:20:46] Not a lot going on for Neil Patrick Harris
[00:20:48] My thing is
[00:20:50] The Sia award is done
[00:20:52] Neil Patrick Harris literally went on Big Brother
[00:20:54] Shannon
[00:20:58] He jumped around on a trampoline
[00:21:00] Explain
[00:21:04] He went in the Big Brother house
[00:21:06] Neil Patrick Harris went in the Big Brother house
[00:21:08] and jumped on a trampoline
[00:21:10] There's no way I would have heard about that. When was that?
[00:21:12] 2006
[00:21:14] That was a child then
[00:21:18] Was that for you on Mother?
[00:21:20] Yes
[00:21:22] He wasn't doing things
[00:21:24] The Sia award is done
[00:21:26] There we go
[00:21:28] The Sia award is done
[00:21:30] and that's why we should consolidate
[00:21:32] what's happened that era of our lives
[00:21:34] Is Sia in?
[00:21:36] 100%
[00:21:38] She is
[00:21:40] She's in the celebrity one but she's not in the Sia one
[00:21:42] I think we have
[00:21:44] We can certainly drop off
[00:21:46] some people who have won the Sia award
[00:21:48] No you do all of them
[00:21:50] Anyone that cut off his hair
[00:21:52] that shall not be named who got Sia money
[00:21:56] Who?
[00:21:58] Mo Manglam
[00:22:00] That's why it's funny
[00:22:02] That's why it's good
[00:22:04] If you're going to be able to edit it
[00:22:06] then it's stupid
[00:22:08] How many people won the Sia award?
[00:22:10] I think like 20
[00:22:12] I think it was actually 19
[00:22:14] There you go
[00:22:16] That's perfect and we'll do a Fiji
[00:22:18] Is there a Fiji brand steal?
[00:22:20] I'm going to vote for the celebrities
[00:22:26] I'm between
[00:22:28] We have one vote for celebrity and one vote for Sia
[00:22:30] I'm the tiebreaker here
[00:22:32] I don't know if either are the best
[00:22:34] but I think we could do better
[00:22:36] Let's get some stranger
[00:22:38] Do we have a
[00:22:40] red yellow green maybe pile
[00:22:42] 3 chizzy points, 2 chizzy points, 1 chizzy point
[00:22:44] Let's do that
[00:22:47] Sam can you keep an Excel
[00:22:49] sheet of what is going to
[00:22:51] be in the finalists
[00:22:53] He can't just say yes
[00:22:57] He can't in the chat
[00:22:59] Fine
[00:23:01] Begrudgingly he'll do it
[00:23:03] How many chizzy points are we giving this right now?
[00:23:05] It sounds fairly fair weather
[00:23:07] for both ideas
[00:23:09] I'm not so completely hooked
[00:23:13] I think the celebrity one
[00:23:15] in particular would be very fun
[00:23:17] We have done very few
[00:23:19] brand steals where it's just bringing back
[00:23:21] survivor players again to play
[00:23:23] again because there's only so much
[00:23:25] room from a creative aspect
[00:23:27] you can go with. With celebrities
[00:23:29] it's very fun because now we're watching them
[00:23:31] play survivor for the first time
[00:23:33] I do think that their audiences
[00:23:35] will notify
[00:23:37] the people even if they don't
[00:23:39] do anything with it I think the chances are
[00:23:41] one person out of 18
[00:23:43] is going to at least
[00:23:45] Oh my god LOL
[00:23:49] If that happens maybe we'll make it like a bet
[00:23:51] The young Charlie guy
[00:23:53] probably will I think he's
[00:23:55] low stakes and all
[00:23:57] We can talk about that on this podcast
[00:23:59] If we talk about it in the next podcast
[00:24:01] It would be really nice
[00:24:03] I caught up on the chat while you guys were talking
[00:24:05] Firstly Taylor Swift
[00:24:07] because there has been
[00:24:09] a theory that was given to me
[00:24:11] that Taylor Swift might have called out Charli
[00:24:13] in one of her prize songs after the finale
[00:24:15] What?
[00:24:17] Yeah because she did Torture Poets Department
[00:24:19] which has the word Charlie in it
[00:24:21] and she did Now That We Don't Talk
[00:24:23] which I think speaks for itself
[00:24:25] I feel like the Taylor Swift fans
[00:24:27] have they moved to becoming like edgy readers
[00:24:29] Oh there's a game
[00:24:31] It's called Marthline
[00:24:33] Taylor Swift did a live performance
[00:24:35] or that the album is foretold
[00:24:37] Survivor 46 and she was spoiled
[00:24:39] The chat is being so mean to me
[00:24:41] Shannon loves making bets she can't win
[00:24:43] I'm betting that the celebrity won't
[00:24:45] watch that's a pretty good bet
[00:24:47] Someone called me a buzz kill I'm not trying to be
[00:24:49] This was the first two ideas they were only okay
[00:24:51] I'm going to be more excited about things
[00:24:53] at a later date let me explain Taylor Swift to Rob
[00:24:55] I'm so glad this is like my Neil Patrick Harris on Big Brother
[00:24:57] Taylor Swift does an
[00:24:59] Eras tour
[00:25:01] She's gone global with the Eras tour
[00:25:03] She's currently performing the Eras tour currently
[00:25:05] around Europe. On the Eras tour
[00:25:07] she does two surprise songs per night
[00:25:09] sometimes a mashup
[00:25:11] and sometimes that will be meaningful to where she is
[00:25:13] like if Travis is there might be songs about Travis
[00:25:15] as an example
[00:25:17] Who's Travis?
[00:25:19] Stop it
[00:25:21] Oh Travis Kelsey?
[00:25:23] I know what you're saying
[00:25:25] Travis from Big Brother 23
[00:25:27] I've never heard him referred to as only first name
[00:25:29] I've never heard of
[00:25:31] once in my life
[00:25:33] I'm supposed to be my friend's boyfriend
[00:25:35] Kelsey
[00:25:38] They've never said Patrick Mahomes
[00:25:40] finds Travis
[00:25:42] Football players don't necessarily
[00:25:44] aren't first they're actually the exact opposite of
[00:25:46] survivor players and that the vast majority of them are
[00:25:48] called by their last name not their first name
[00:25:50] He's not a football player to me he's my friend Taylor Swift's
[00:25:52] boyfriend. I thought you were talking about the guy
[00:25:54] from Big Brother 23
[00:25:56] Rob
[00:25:58] I could feel your mouth forming the syllable I knew
[00:26:00] you were going to talk about the man who felt beautiful
[00:26:02] people were getting discriminated the hot guys with abs
[00:26:04] Derek X's friend
[00:26:06] That's his most famously known
[00:26:08] That's for someone that I
[00:26:10] don't know. I'm like is that the season I watched?
[00:26:12] Okay the chat is now defending me
[00:26:14] Great
[00:26:16] Shannon your friend yes I can't stop looking
[00:26:18] at the chat the reason that
[00:26:20] people think that she's watching Survivor
[00:26:22] is because in the two surprise songs she did right after the
[00:26:24] finale which again are usually coded with meaning
[00:26:26] because Taylor's weirdly tapped into what the fans are saying
[00:26:28] She did one song that has
[00:26:30] the name Charlie in it
[00:26:32] and then she did a second song called Now That We
[00:26:34] Don't Talk
[00:26:37] Is she that deep in the weeds?
[00:26:39] Did Charlie check out my exit interview
[00:26:41] with Charlie where he said he doesn't talk to
[00:26:43] Maria anymore? Did Taylor? Yeah
[00:26:45] I think so I think that she's not only watching Survivor
[00:26:47] but she was actually looking at
[00:26:49] Mike's exit press
[00:26:51] What about Brand Steel
[00:26:53] Taylor Swift Ears? Anyway whatever
[00:26:55] Off the Taylor Swift string
[00:26:57] Well we could make up fake ears
[00:26:59] So this is what
[00:27:01] Sam suggests from the chat after each
[00:27:03] idea we give it one two or three
[00:27:05] chizzy points and then we'll have a score
[00:27:07] for the things and then we'll be able
[00:27:09] to tell
[00:27:11] I think this is for me
[00:27:13] The Taylor Swift
[00:27:15] Ears Brand Steel? Nope nope nope
[00:27:17] Nope nope nope
[00:27:19] I guess we have to say
[00:27:21] Do you want to do both
[00:27:23] rate both Brand Steels?
[00:27:25] I think so. Let's start with the
[00:27:27] Sia's
[00:27:29] Sia's favorites Brand Steel
[00:27:31] Brand Seattle
[00:27:33] Brand Seattle
[00:27:35] Just our name alone
[00:27:37] Brand Seattle
[00:27:39] How could you possibly veto the Brand Steel?
[00:27:41] Brand Seattle sounds like a great tight end
[00:27:43] No it sounds like the DM of an exotic dancer
[00:27:45] Okay I'm not trying to derail it
[00:27:47] I promise
[00:27:49] But
[00:27:51] I think in the course of Summer of Survivor
[00:27:53] We'll probably get to a
[00:27:55] Brand Steel that makes sense
[00:27:57] We'll probably draft something where we're like this is the group
[00:27:59] that's better than both of these groups
[00:28:01] of like celebrities
[00:28:03] and the Sia people
[00:28:05] and if we don't we'll choose one of those things and we'll do a Brand Steel
[00:28:07] I would personally like
[00:28:09] to do it on the earlier side because if we have a Brand Steel
[00:28:11] coming up in probably mid August
[00:28:13] I know that's a while from now
[00:28:15] but I also know these are
[00:28:17] tend to be marathons
[00:28:19] You guys think we should have thought things through better
[00:28:21] No alright let's just
[00:28:23] get to rating
[00:28:25] this idea starting with Sia
[00:28:28] Sia Brand Steel
[00:28:30] Oops all Sia Brand Steel
[00:28:32] Brand Seattle
[00:28:34] I'll give a 2 to Brand Seattle
[00:28:36] I'm not loving it but I think there's legs there
[00:28:38] Okay I give it 1
[00:28:40] Chizzy point
[00:28:42] I'll give it a 1
[00:28:44] Now
[00:28:46] Celebrity Brand Steel
[00:28:48] If we can put Taylor in it
[00:28:50] I'd give it a 1
[00:28:52] I need a rooting interest
[00:28:54] So you would give it a 1
[00:28:56] Can you give it 0
[00:28:58] I thought you'd be the Simon Cowell of this panel Rob
[00:29:00] but I think Shannon is
[00:29:02] It has been 2 ideas what are you the chat
[00:29:04] Alright I don't know if we should do it next week
[00:29:06] but I would give this a 3
[00:29:08] I think this is a great idea
[00:29:10] I'll give it a 3 as well
[00:29:12] Oh my god okay fine
[00:29:14] We'll do it maybe soon but if no celebrities
[00:29:16] watch you're going to look like right morons
[00:29:20] How is that different from literally any other podcast I do
[00:29:22] Okay I have a direct line
[00:29:24] I have a line I've tried to Young Sheldon
[00:29:26] that I will call in so that
[00:29:28] he will watch but I think we should rig it for him
[00:29:30] Wow
[00:29:32] We can't rig the Brand Steel Shannon
[00:29:34] No no but if we rig it just so he goes at least far
[00:29:36] because I don't want to like call in a favour
[00:29:38] for him to watch
[00:29:40] I actually have a couple of people who are speaking to Young Sheldon
[00:29:42] or at least Young Sheldon
[00:29:44] What about Old Sheldon
[00:29:46] What Jim Parsons? No I can't
[00:29:48] That's like a really famous person
[00:29:50] Okay
[00:29:52] That's a little disparaging to your friend
[00:29:54] To Young Sheldon?
[00:29:56] He's not my friend
[00:29:58] I have people who could talk to Young Sheldon
[00:30:00] You're making us feel like
[00:30:02] there's some sort of medium
[00:30:04] like is Young Sheldon in the room with us right now
[00:30:06] What about Medium Sheldon
[00:30:08] Do you know Medium Sheldon
[00:30:10] I think he is Medium Sheldon now
[00:30:12] I think he grew up
[00:30:14] We can have Medium Sheldon
[00:30:16] and I can say Felipe
[00:30:18] he's a great friend of the podcast
[00:30:20] Felipe knows Young Sheldon
[00:30:22] Medium Sheldon
[00:30:24] Not so Young Sheldon
[00:30:26] Medium Sheldon
[00:30:28] Okay
[00:30:30] Alright so now we're half an hour in
[00:30:32] and we've gotten past the first two ideas
[00:30:34] Great progress people
[00:30:36] We came up with a third idea
[00:30:38] I think the Taylor Swift one
[00:30:40] I'll throw one out here
[00:30:42] that I think will have a little bit more
[00:30:44] commitment to it
[00:30:46] It's something that has been asked for
[00:30:48] There's really no excuse to not do a new era think tank
[00:30:50] New era think tank
[00:30:52] Much like this podcast people will send in their twist
[00:30:54] ideas
[00:30:56] We're not going to do the no
[00:30:58] Yes we acknowledge the fact that we would like less twists in Survivor
[00:31:00] but if we're sticking with the wackadoo
[00:31:02] format of the new era
[00:31:04] let's let people be creative
[00:31:06] They send us their ideas and we figure out if we send them to Samoa or not
[00:31:08] Yeah
[00:31:10] I mean not Samoa anymore
[00:31:12] Okay
[00:31:14] So I think that there is certainly going to be things
[00:31:16] that we can come up with that are going to be fun
[00:31:18] I do think that the conventional wisdom
[00:31:20] that we get as Mike referenced
[00:31:22] that we'll get a lot of like
[00:31:24] we don't need any more stuff
[00:31:26] I've also played with the idea of a stink tank
[00:31:28] of things that we need to take out of Survivor
[00:31:30] Yeah
[00:31:32] Well I think that's what the think tank would be for me
[00:31:34] I mean think tank doesn't denote positivity
[00:31:36] I think we just get in there
[00:31:38] with like a sledgehammer
[00:31:40] we overhaul the whole thing
[00:31:42] and then we'll just be left with all the rest of that
[00:31:44] Do you think John Lovett or Listed?
[00:31:46] Oh no
[00:31:48] We did get a couple of suggestions
[00:31:50] about check out the compiled works of John Lovett
[00:31:52] to figure out how he'd do on Survivor
[00:31:54] I do think someone should explain John Lovett to me
[00:31:56] Okay
[00:31:58] We've got a few months
[00:32:00] That's a podcast?
[00:32:02] I think you could do it in like 30 seconds
[00:32:04] Okay do it right
[00:32:06] He's one of the people
[00:32:08] I believe that he worked in the Obama White House
[00:32:10] as a speech writer
[00:32:12] He is with
[00:32:14] the rest of the cast
[00:32:16] of the podcast
[00:32:18] Pod Save America
[00:32:20] They started off in 2015 I think
[00:32:22] on the Ringer network
[00:32:24] It was called Keeping It 1600
[00:32:26] and then
[00:32:28] they moved over and formed Crooked Media
[00:32:30] and that he is one of
[00:32:32] the hosts of Pod Save America
[00:32:34] He does a lot of
[00:32:36] I think he does like a weekly
[00:32:38] political news show
[00:32:40] in Los Angeles
[00:32:42] and that's John Lovett
[00:32:44] Okay that's interesting
[00:32:46] but to put it in context
[00:32:48] order him in fame
[00:32:50] of Survivor contestants
[00:32:52] Oh I
[00:32:54] I would say the most famous
[00:32:56] since Mike White and I would say on a
[00:32:58] name recognition level
[00:33:00] for certain people more famous than Mike White
[00:33:02] was at the time of Survivor David vs. Goliath
[00:33:04] Okay
[00:33:06] But he's less famous
[00:33:09] than Mike White is currently
[00:33:11] I would say Mike White has certainly
[00:33:13] emerged in Mike White's bread
[00:33:15] At the risk of
[00:33:17] offending always
[00:33:19] I think that John Lovett has more
[00:33:21] of a presence
[00:33:23] as a
[00:33:25] as a personality
[00:33:27] than Mike White
[00:33:29] who is more
[00:33:31] behind the scenes other than his reality
[00:33:33] TV appearance
[00:33:35] He acts in some of his things as well
[00:33:37] John Lovett is more well known
[00:33:39] as a media personality
[00:33:41] than
[00:33:43] 2017
[00:33:45] Mike White
[00:33:47] Rob you just can't help yourself
[00:33:49] You know when we talk about famous Survivor
[00:33:51] beefs which is something I was thinking we should do
[00:33:53] Rob and Mike White
[00:33:55] putting it on there
[00:33:57] High on the tier list
[00:33:59] Yeah?
[00:34:01] One chizzy point
[00:34:03] What to the beefs?
[00:34:05] Me and Mike White
[00:34:07] Oh well
[00:34:09] that was iconic I actually listened to that recently
[00:34:11] but also
[00:34:13] what idea were we talking about?
[00:34:15] So we were talking about the new era of Think Tank
[00:34:17] Oh yeah we should do a new era of Think Tank
[00:34:19] Three points
[00:34:21] I give it a three as well
[00:34:23] I think inevitably if it turns out
[00:34:25] that it's more so like oh my god
[00:34:27] what's going on with these ideas
[00:34:29] and we demolish the whole house
[00:34:31] and rebuild it as something new
[00:34:33] I think we're in the third or fourth episode
[00:34:35] of this podcast
[00:34:37] and I think this is something that
[00:34:39] has been a long time coming
[00:34:41] especially in an era that is so much about
[00:34:43] just throwing out random things
[00:34:45] We should do a new era of Think Tank
[00:34:47] We have a long off season
[00:34:49] Are we ready to rank chizzy points
[00:34:51] for the new era of Think Tank?
[00:34:53] I give three points
[00:34:55] Three for me
[00:34:57] I'll give it two
[00:35:00] It's fine
[00:35:02] I do the ranking
[00:35:04] It's not to be above skill
[00:35:06] I understand now that they've said it
[00:35:08] Can I give zero?
[00:35:10] Yes, so zero hate it
[00:35:12] Three love it
[00:35:14] One is fine
[00:35:16] I'm just not that
[00:35:18] excited
[00:35:20] Next week new era of Think Tank
[00:35:22] We also want to give people
[00:35:24] time to send in ideas
[00:35:26] I think when you give people a week
[00:35:28] under pressure to send in things
[00:35:30] I think it's the exact opposite
[00:35:32] Pressure will burst a pipe or make a diamond
[00:35:34] I think many people's pipes
[00:35:36] will burst if they send in
[00:35:38] these types of ideas
[00:35:40] with how much the toilet will be clogged
[00:35:42] My gosh
[00:35:44] It's a long way to get there
[00:35:46] Let me suggest a sequel
[00:35:48] if you will
[00:35:50] Rob
[00:35:52] Almost ten years ago
[00:35:54] You and I got together
[00:35:56] and did a podcast talking about
[00:35:59] best pre-merge episodes
[00:36:01] of Survivor
[00:36:03] Do you remember this?
[00:36:05] We did what's the best premiere
[00:36:07] of Survivor
[00:36:09] What's the best episode 2
[00:36:11] We went up through the pre-merge
[00:36:13] We said we'll come back in a little bit
[00:36:15] and we'll do the post-merge
[00:36:17] Don't you worry
[00:36:19] The fanbase has been like Fry's dog
[00:36:21] in that one episode of Futurama
[00:36:23] just waiting
[00:36:25] I think it's time we finally
[00:36:27] record and do a post-merge
[00:36:29] It would mean a lot for me to be part of that
[00:36:31] because I literally remember listening
[00:36:33] before I was a podcaster
[00:36:35] You know those podcasts where you were driving
[00:36:37] I remember driving and listening
[00:36:39] and I loved it so much
[00:36:41] I was like damn I'd love to be friends with that Mike Bloom type
[00:36:43] And I loved it
[00:36:45] I was one of the fans who was like
[00:36:47] Why did they never do
[00:36:49] I think I even wrote in a couple of times
[00:36:51] Why did you guys never do the sequel
[00:36:53] I've been waiting like Fry's dog
[00:36:55] I'm so positive about things
[00:36:57] As long as they're not Brian Steele's evidently
[00:36:59] What is the date
[00:37:01] on that podcast
[00:37:03] Do you recall Mike
[00:37:05] I'm going to say June 2015
[00:37:07] June 2015
[00:37:09] I feel like then we should wait until next summer
[00:37:11] 10 years in the making
[00:37:13] 10 years of a random sequel
[00:37:15] to a random Netflix Gen time
[00:37:17] July 17th 2015
[00:37:19] I think it was like 2 weeks after I got married
[00:37:21] Put it on the calendar
[00:37:23] For July 17th 2025
[00:37:27] I'm not going to do that on the 9 year anniversary
[00:37:29] There's no anniversary
[00:37:31] It's a random sequel to a random podcast
[00:37:33] There's no lore around it
[00:37:35] We're going to need off season podcasts next summer
[00:37:37] No you don't know
[00:37:39] Next summer they might be doing a million different types of
[00:37:41] international survivor
[00:37:43] This is the time we need now
[00:37:45] This is bare okay
[00:37:47] To be fair
[00:37:49] This isn't Renap right
[00:37:51] This podcast could get chosen at any point
[00:37:53] It could be on a shortlist and we just don't pick it
[00:37:55] No I'm picking it
[00:37:57] Actually I became a podcaster
[00:37:59] I got into it so much
[00:38:01] That I could then influence
[00:38:03] Doing it and be on it
[00:38:05] This is literally why I'm here
[00:38:07] It's all been for this and then I can finally quit
[00:38:09] So please do it
[00:38:11] I don't want to do it then
[00:38:13] She's like Q
[00:38:15] She just wants to
[00:38:17] I'm out
[00:38:19] Get a rise out of us
[00:38:21] Don't take the bait
[00:38:23] Shannon maybe you're in some of our podcast plans
[00:38:25] Maybe we don't want you to quit
[00:38:27] Maybe you're being selfish right now
[00:38:29] No then Mike should be like
[00:38:31] If she wants to quit let her quit
[00:38:33] I'm messing things up
[00:38:35] I should be allowed to quit after I do the podcast I came here to do
[00:38:37] 9 years ago I thought
[00:38:39] If they won't do a sequel I will do it myself
[00:38:41] So can we please
[00:38:43] Let's do it
[00:38:45] 3 points
[00:38:47] I'm very excited
[00:38:49] I'm 2 how dare you
[00:38:51] I just explained how meaningful it is to me
[00:38:53] Didn't you just say that 2 isn't just fine
[00:38:55] 2 means I like it
[00:38:57] I want you to love it
[00:38:59] John love it
[00:39:01] It's fine
[00:39:03] It's just the origin of our whole relationship
[00:39:05] No that's survivors South Africa
[00:39:07] Philippines
[00:39:09] Is the origin of our entire relationship
[00:39:11] For you it is
[00:39:13] But I already had plans
[00:39:15] Next summer
[00:39:17] 2025 mark it down
[00:39:19] 14 months away Shannon
[00:39:21] You're so hard Rob
[00:39:23] I can't believe
[00:39:25] That you would take something that is so meaningful to me
[00:39:27] And for no reason
[00:39:29] We could start the
[00:39:31] Ad campaign now
[00:39:33] It's a podcast
[00:39:35] 10 years in the making
[00:39:37] Does anyone remember the podcast about me
[00:39:39] Can the chat bring it
[00:39:41] We got quite a few requests for it today
[00:39:43] I hate you guys
[00:39:45] Okay
[00:39:47] Are you going to give it a 1 or 0
[00:39:49] Next summer will be a 3
[00:39:51] 1
[00:39:53] I'm very angry
[00:39:55] Yeah
[00:39:57] How about this
[00:39:59] Let's cross some streams
[00:40:01] What if
[00:40:03] We create
[00:40:05] A season of Big Brother
[00:40:07] Or a season of The Traitors
[00:40:09] With former Survivor players
[00:40:11] This is something that
[00:40:13] Rob you did in the past with Gordon Holmes
[00:40:15] You more so cast
[00:40:17] Theme seasons
[00:40:19] This could be a way to bring in a Taryn
[00:40:21] To bring in a Pouya
[00:40:23] And especially if there is rumors of Survivors
[00:40:25] Playing in something like The Traitors
[00:40:27] To be like okay here are some Survivors
[00:40:29] Maybe they won't be on 50
[00:40:31] But this is a chance for them to appear on a different type of show
[00:40:33] I just don't know
[00:40:35] My question is
[00:40:37] What would a Big Brother season
[00:40:40] With Survivor players
[00:40:42] How would that be that different
[00:40:44] Than casting a season of Survivor
[00:40:46] I think there would be
[00:40:48] Big Brother
[00:40:50] Survivor players that feel very Big Brother
[00:40:52] Coded
[00:40:54] Survivor 46 we just put him in the Big Brother house
[00:40:56] You could certainly bring
[00:40:58] Some people in there as well
[00:41:00] We could certainly bank off of like Jelinski is a huge Big Brother
[00:41:02] Fan what would he do
[00:41:04] Inside of the Big Brother house
[00:41:06] I think it needs to be sold a little bit more
[00:41:08] Why isn't every Survivor
[00:41:10] Player kind of perfect
[00:41:12] For Big Brother and The Traitors
[00:41:14] I think it's more so
[00:41:16] Picking the ones that we feel would most be
[00:41:18] Fun on The Traitors
[00:41:20] This is a conversation we've had throughout all of
[00:41:22] These past couple years
[00:41:24] Oh so and so on The Traitors would be great
[00:41:26] This is a conversation we're going to have
[00:41:28] On these daily podcasts as well
[00:41:30] Fan casting I think it would be a fun
[00:41:32] Opportunity to do
[00:41:34] And cross the streams a little bit
[00:41:36] I think it would be great
[00:41:38] If we could do a cast
[00:41:40] Of Survivors
[00:41:42] And then we could cast
[00:41:44] Who would Puyo bring from MILF Manor
[00:41:46] That's better
[00:41:48] Let's do like The Bachelor or something ridiculous
[00:41:50] The only exception I would have
[00:41:52] With that is obviously
[00:41:54] You want to cast MILF Manor with Survivors Shannon
[00:41:56] I do
[00:41:58] I didn't hear it when I said it
[00:42:00] But now I'm all in
[00:42:02] I don't think I'm allowed to
[00:42:04] I was just saying Rob that we brought up on Club Condo
[00:42:06] Last week should we cast Survivor Mothers vs. Moms
[00:42:08] Okay
[00:42:10] Mothers vs. Moms
[00:42:12] But it's not a Brands deal
[00:42:14] Not a Brands deal this is just casting the season
[00:42:16] So this is a cast
[00:42:18] Of all
[00:42:20] I hate to be just Miss Mother's Day
[00:42:22] I like this
[00:42:24] It's not
[00:42:28] Could we do
[00:42:30] Fathers vs. Addies
[00:42:32] Is that possible
[00:42:34] Okay
[00:42:36] So
[00:42:38] That would be two different seasons
[00:42:40] Mothers vs.
[00:42:42] Mothers
[00:42:44] Am I saying it right
[00:42:46] I feel like
[00:42:48] You are asking the wrong people
[00:42:50] Which would probably mean we would bring in a fourth party
[00:42:52] I'm not the right person to ask
[00:42:54] But I know he's saying it wrong
[00:42:56] Very confident
[00:42:58] Yeah okay
[00:43:00] So
[00:43:02] This is interesting
[00:43:04] I like this one
[00:43:06] I think it's fun
[00:43:08] Alright
[00:43:10] But we went straight past
[00:43:12] Casting MILF Manor with Survivor Players
[00:43:14] I think I'm going to give that two
[00:43:16] Wait so you want us to put
[00:43:18] Cast MILF Manor with Survivor Players
[00:43:20] Are we casting also the hot young guys
[00:43:22] Also
[00:43:24] You said they were hot
[00:43:26] And sure
[00:43:28] Am I objectifying
[00:43:30] The young men of Survivor
[00:43:32] Yes
[00:43:34] On MILF Manor
[00:43:36] You explain it to me
[00:43:38] Do they call them hot young guys
[00:43:40] Or is that your terminology
[00:43:42] That's my terminology
[00:43:44] They don't really call them anything
[00:43:46] I think they've probably been called worse
[00:43:48] Than hot young guys on MILF Manor
[00:43:50] Fair
[00:43:52] Is that the standard you want to be at
[00:43:54] As long as MILF is more
[00:43:56] Objective than my personal
[00:43:58] Opinions I think we could do it
[00:44:00] And then in terms of mothers vs moms
[00:44:02] It's really stupid
[00:44:04] Okay
[00:44:06] In a good way
[00:44:08] So that's nice
[00:44:10] And then
[00:44:12] Do we want to like really be
[00:44:14] Feeding Stan culture right now
[00:44:16] If we don't
[00:44:18] Join them
[00:44:20] I'm into it
[00:44:22] I like this one
[00:44:24] I like this one a lot
[00:44:26] I'll go three
[00:44:28] On mothers vs moms
[00:44:30] I too
[00:44:32] We're just casting it
[00:44:34] Three
[00:44:36] There we go
[00:44:38] And then we'll let the fans brand steal it
[00:44:40] They can brand steal it on their own
[00:44:42] Okay
[00:44:44] Well we'll see if it's a really good cast
[00:44:46] I think the brand steals will appear to us
[00:44:48] I don't want to do the whole podcast now
[00:44:50] But are Laura and Sierra on different drives
[00:44:52] I think they're better than either of them
[00:44:54] But then I think what could happen is
[00:44:56] Blood vs water style I think it could switch
[00:44:58] At any point in time depending on what they do
[00:45:00] It's like oh that was very motherly of you
[00:45:02] Go over to the mothers tribe
[00:45:04] I think Sierra could be mother
[00:45:06] Sierra ten years ago
[00:45:08] Was mother
[00:45:10] But she's not anymore
[00:45:12] That's not a good read on mothers
[00:45:14] This is the kind of arguments we'll have on the mothers vs moms
[00:45:16] I think there's some debate
[00:45:18] Okay if you wanted to go to a
[00:45:21] Mother daughter team for mothers vs moms
[00:45:23] It's Nina vs Sandra
[00:45:25] That's the one
[00:45:27] Not the one you brought up
[00:45:29] Nina's mother?
[00:45:31] Nina's mother?
[00:45:33] Why are you confused by that?
[00:45:35] You think Sierra and not Nina?
[00:45:37] We're going to have some debates on this podcast
[00:45:39] But also Sandra has her mother moments as well
[00:45:41] Yeah exactly Sandra is the
[00:45:43] Epitome of both
[00:45:45] Sandra is mother
[00:45:47] Sandra is mom
[00:45:49] I had not seen Nina as
[00:45:51] Mother yet
[00:45:53] I haven't seen her as mother
[00:45:55] I have not seen that on social media
[00:45:57] Are you blind?
[00:45:59] He's hot and blind
[00:46:01] We've confirmed this
[00:46:03] If I look up Nina and mother
[00:46:05] It's probably going to be all posted about Sandra though
[00:46:07] She's mother Google
[00:46:09] Like when I looked up
[00:46:11] Corey big brother
[00:46:13] And then Zach Wurtenberger
[00:46:15] No Nina's definitely
[00:46:17] Definitely mother
[00:46:19] Can we stop the idea podcast
[00:46:21] And do mothers vs moms right now
[00:46:23] No we have to come back next week
[00:46:25] This is actually great
[00:46:27] This is a really good podcast because Rob has really bad takes on it
[00:46:29] And that will be really funny
[00:46:31] Three points to mothers vs moms
[00:46:33] I'm asking
[00:46:35] The chat
[00:46:37] Matt says
[00:46:39] So much disrespect to Nina
[00:46:41] None meant
[00:46:43] Yeah but you said she wasn't mother
[00:46:45] I asked a question
[00:46:47] Nina is always mother
[00:46:49] Says Chrissa
[00:46:51] No question about it
[00:46:53] Is this international
[00:46:55] Moms vs mothers
[00:46:57] I think Nina's kind of grandfathered in
[00:46:59] And also
[00:47:01] Global mothers vs moms
[00:47:03] Now that's the global event
[00:47:05] We've all been waiting for
[00:47:07] But that might be a sequel
[00:47:09] A lot of people are mother
[00:47:11] I do think mother has lost all meaning
[00:47:13] I think it's Robin
[00:47:15] I think it's Nina
[00:47:17] But just in general
[00:47:19] It'll lose meaning by the time we do this
[00:47:21] If there's anyone to ruin the word mother
[00:47:23] It's Robin myself
[00:47:25] Let's do it
[00:47:27] See you next week
[00:47:29] Can we invite Bryce
[00:47:31] Should it be a draft
[00:47:33] Or are we just casting
[00:47:35] I think we're making this a communal idea
[00:47:37] I like the spirit of debates
[00:47:39] I want to win a draft
[00:47:41] We really loved mothers vs moms
[00:47:43] I wasn't in it until Rob
[00:47:45] Showed that he does know what mother is
[00:47:47] And then I was like let's explore
[00:47:49] I know what mother is
[00:47:51] You said Nina might
[00:47:53] I tried it on my side
[00:47:55] I might know what mother is more than you do
[00:47:57] More than me
[00:47:59] Explain that
[00:48:01] Let's get into that
[00:48:03] Your one test case
[00:48:05] Is
[00:48:07] Nina
[00:48:09] You did too
[00:48:11] But Nina might not be
[00:48:13] It was such a bad rubric
[00:48:15] That made me doubt the whole motherhood
[00:48:17] I love this
[00:48:19] We'll see you next week
[00:48:21] We're so well fed
[00:48:23] Let me throw a draft out to you
[00:48:25] Let me have you say your sins
[00:48:27] The spiral that you found yourself in
[00:48:29] Since the new era has started
[00:48:31] I think Rob, you and Kevin Jacobs
[00:48:33] Have recently collaborated on
[00:48:35] A great newsletter called The Confessional
[00:48:37] Could we do a draft
[00:48:39] Of survivor confessionalists
[00:48:41] This would be snake style
[00:48:43] Instead of doing the auction
[00:48:45] Like we have in the past
[00:48:47] Sort of like what Taryn did for Big Brother 25
[00:48:49] We'll each draft a team
[00:48:51] Of famous survivor confessionalists
[00:48:53] And then people will vote at the end
[00:48:55] As to who has the best team
[00:48:57] Yeah, three points
[00:48:59] It's a draft
[00:49:01] You know I love to draft
[00:49:03] I'm so good at it
[00:49:05] I love it
[00:49:07] I like it
[00:49:09] Maybe Rob doesn't know what a good confessionalist is
[00:49:11] We'll find out
[00:49:13] That is a blind spot for me
[00:49:15] So I would say
[00:49:17] I think this is okay
[00:49:19] I'm not super psyched
[00:49:21] About doing this idea
[00:49:23] I just feel like
[00:49:25] Especially when we get into a fan vote
[00:49:27] I don't know if the fans will vote
[00:49:29] Necessarily on
[00:49:31] The merit of the confessionals
[00:49:33] Or the Courtney merit
[00:49:35] Of the confessionals
[00:49:37] I think it'll just be like
[00:49:39] Oh these are my favorites
[00:49:41] They're good at confessionals
[00:49:43] But this one
[00:49:45] Doesn't get me too pumped up
[00:49:47] Well that's the thing
[00:49:49] If the confessionals are so good
[00:49:51] As to have people thinking
[00:49:53] That they're the favorite
[00:49:55] That does speak to it
[00:49:57] But it is true
[00:49:59] That's what they told Russell Hans
[00:50:02] It would be pretty monumental
[00:50:04] For me personally
[00:50:06] Yeah
[00:50:08] Fair enough
[00:50:10] I feel good about it
[00:50:12] Obviously it is not as out there
[00:50:14] As a lot of the ideas we've suggested
[00:50:16] But this feels like a good solid idea
[00:50:18] I think we can get Kevin on
[00:50:20] I think he'd be a very fun force
[00:50:22] To include in on this
[00:50:24] I would give this a 2
[00:50:26] Just checking in on the chat
[00:50:28] This person says
[00:50:30] I'm just being regular
[00:50:32] I think I'm just being regular
[00:50:34] You're fine
[00:50:36] Gregory says
[00:50:38] Everyone we have to make Shannon lose for Chappelle
[00:50:40] So maybe we shouldn't let the fans choose
[00:50:42] Stupid fans
[00:50:44] They don't know what they want
[00:50:46] We'll decide
[00:50:48] Is this how regularly mean I am to the fans
[00:50:50] What is going on today
[00:50:52] You're cold
[00:50:54] I think for me
[00:50:56] I'll say this is a 1
[00:50:58] I think it's something we could easily tee up
[00:51:00] On a week where we feel like
[00:51:02] We don't have any ideas that really pop
[00:51:04] But I think it's something we could have
[00:51:06] In the tank as a good repository to go to
[00:51:08] I'll give it a 2
[00:51:10] I give it a 2
[00:51:12] Alright
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[00:51:17] We brought them to this night
[00:51:21] Ember hot and icy cold
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[00:51:32] We did not see
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[00:51:36] But she did
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[00:53:17] I've got
[00:53:19] I've got a couple of fun ideas involving
[00:53:21] One particular person
[00:53:23] Who I think many
[00:53:25] Would be excited to know is
[00:53:27] Looking to nudge his nose back
[00:53:29] Into the world of Survivor
[00:53:31] Do you all want to hear some
[00:53:33] Josh Wiggler ideas
[00:53:35] Oh three points five points
[00:53:37] Using my veto but the opposite of veto I want it
[00:53:39] Alright do you want to start with something old
[00:53:41] Or something new
[00:53:43] Old
[00:53:45] What
[00:53:47] I texted Josh Wiggler
[00:53:49] Would you be interested in doing
[00:53:51] A one off
[00:53:53] Wandoff
[00:53:55] For any songs for any seasons
[00:53:57] That we have not done since the last time
[00:53:59] He said
[00:54:01] Quote yes for sure
[00:54:03] A million percent
[00:54:05] Well obviously now that you put that out there
[00:54:07] We can't not do it people would come to our houses
[00:54:09] And murder us
[00:54:11] Yeah
[00:54:13] I have been proposing
[00:54:15] I would love to get Josh to come in
[00:54:17] For like one
[00:54:19] Wandoff a season like at the
[00:54:21] Merge or at some
[00:54:23] At some point like I feel like that one a season
[00:54:25] I think would really
[00:54:27] Would really hit and not at the end of the season
[00:54:29] Like one midseason Wandoff
[00:54:31] I think would really be ideal
[00:54:33] So is this a yes
[00:54:35] Yeah for those because we have some people in the chat
[00:54:37] That are making me feel really old
[00:54:39] So Wandoff
[00:54:41] Not explaining the Wandoff
[00:54:43] It's a song listen Shannon we do not discriminate
[00:54:45] What is a Wandoff
[00:54:47] It is a song parody contest
[00:54:49] On Survivor Podcast from what Rob
[00:54:51] I think 32 through
[00:54:53] Yeah I think
[00:54:55] Josh started making song parodies
[00:54:57] Okay I'm going to sing one now
[00:54:59] Because it was Darnell Hamilton
[00:55:01] To the tune of Alexander Hamilton
[00:55:03] Who can not remember their history I still remember where I was listening to that as well
[00:55:05] Same year
[00:55:07] Right
[00:55:09] Same year as the podcast
[00:55:11] The first podcast you guys did
[00:55:13] 2016 was Darnell Hamilton
[00:55:15] Well in the same year of time
[00:55:17] In that year
[00:55:19] But then I don't remember many
[00:55:21] Song parodies during Millennials vs. Gen X
[00:55:23] Were game changers
[00:55:25] Oh you don't remember Mari Takahashi
[00:55:27] To the theme of Katamari Damacy
[00:55:29] Josh was doing songs
[00:55:31] Yeah so Josh did songs from 32 through 34
[00:55:33] 35 officially started
[00:55:35] The Wiggle Room and the Wandoff
[00:55:37] Which was crowd sourced song submissions
[00:55:39] And that ran through Survivor
[00:55:41] 39 and then I think you guys
[00:55:43] Maybe did some for 40 if I'm remembering correctly
[00:55:45] Yes there was a Wandoff for Survivor 40
[00:55:47] Okay how about this can I tweak the idea
[00:55:51] New era Wandoff
[00:55:53] So I think that would be the implication
[00:55:55] Right is that it's Wandoffs for the seasons
[00:55:57] That Josh missed
[00:55:59] Which would also segue into my second idea
[00:56:01] And I am
[00:56:03] Like I might use an executive order
[00:56:05] And put this one through as well
[00:56:07] We need to explain the new era
[00:56:09] To Josh Wiggler
[00:56:11] He is back in to Survivor
[00:56:13] Now more than ever
[00:56:15] I think we do a podcast where it's very simply
[00:56:17] Trying to describe all the crazy shit that's happened
[00:56:19] The past six seasons to him
[00:56:21] Mike I think you would kill two birds
[00:56:23] With one
[00:56:25] Trying to get Colin Stone
[00:56:27] Here with
[00:56:29] Putting these two together
[00:56:31] Because a new era Wandoff would have
[00:56:33] All sorts of
[00:56:35] Whack-a-doodle things that would come in
[00:56:37] And
[00:56:39] Then there would after each Wandoff
[00:56:41] Then you'd have to explain to Josh
[00:56:43] What is happening
[00:56:45] In this Wandoff
[00:56:47] That's good yeah I didn't understand
[00:56:49] Because I want to like get as much
[00:56:51] Josh Wiggler as we can
[00:56:53] Sing us one of these songs please
[00:56:55] What's like an iconic Wandoff
[00:56:57] Sorry that's what the chat
[00:56:59] What's like iconic
[00:57:01] What's like
[00:57:03] What's a number one like
[00:57:05] Oh Aubrey Hock
[00:57:07] That's like his main go-to Wandoff song
[00:57:09] Some songs still to me I hear as Wandoff
[00:57:11] Instead of the original songs
[00:57:13] Sure there was like Mari
[00:57:15] Takahashi that wasn't a Wandoff
[00:57:17] But Wandoff could be
[00:57:19] Kid on my socks which was a parody
[00:57:21] There's a kid on my socks yeah
[00:57:23] From Aaron from Island of the Islands
[00:57:25] Alright
[00:57:27] So many good ones really
[00:57:29] Actually that's kind of my origin
[00:57:31] You can look them up on YouTube
[00:57:33] I did send the link to
[00:57:35] Ben Katzman during the season
[00:57:37] Of that he
[00:57:39] When he made the
[00:57:41] Um
[00:57:43] Today is going to be the day
[00:57:45] We're going to say bye to
[00:57:47] And so I did
[00:57:49] Send him the link
[00:57:51] I said hey check this out
[00:57:53] His mind was blunt
[00:57:55] Um the Wandoff was my
[00:57:57] Was my origin story actually
[00:57:59] That's I was submitting Wandoff
[00:58:01] That's before I was a podcaster
[00:58:03] Anyway never won actually
[00:58:05] I never won the Wandoff I came second like
[00:58:07] Five times
[00:58:09] Dot dot dot yet this could be an opportunity
[00:58:11] The draft
[00:58:13] That was my implication
[00:58:15] Thank you for saying it so plainly but
[00:58:17] That's what I thought you know what I'm going to get involved in the podcast
[00:58:19] I'm going to do my own Wandoff and then I'm going to make myself win
[00:58:21] And that is why we're here today and then I can finally quit
[00:58:23] Be the Wandoff
[00:58:25] You wish to see in the world
[00:58:27] Exactly so I was thinking for Josh
[00:58:29] We would like act out new era scenes
[00:58:31] Or something and I didn't know how we would do it but it's going to be really fun
[00:58:33] We could do it via the Wandoff
[00:58:35] But it's not really fun for Josh to listen to a song he doesn't know anything about
[00:58:37] Yes it will
[00:58:39] Uh no I think he'd love it
[00:58:41] Alright
[00:58:43] I mean that's really fun
[00:58:45] Yeah I think
[00:58:47] If we can combine both ideas and basically do like
[00:58:49] We're going to indoctrinate Josh Wigler into the new era
[00:58:51] Survivor through a musical interlude
[00:58:53] I think it's a perfect podcast
[00:58:55] Yeah
[00:58:57] Alright
[00:58:59] We induct Josh into the new era through song
[00:59:01] I love when people do that
[00:59:03] Let's do it
[00:59:05] Alright
[00:59:07] Should we talk about some games for a second
[00:59:09] Any games that we might want to do this time around
[00:59:11] I know one that could be very fun
[00:59:13] Would be a
[00:59:15] How about a Survivor Taskmaster
[00:59:17] Grace Leder has run it a couple times in the past
[00:59:19] On Renap
[00:59:21] I think she told me that she wanted to do it
[00:59:23] Slightly differently
[00:59:25] But it could be very fun to do Taskmaster
[00:59:27] Which is a brilliant show that people should check out
[00:59:29] Around survivor based tasks
[00:59:31] What would a survivor based task be
[00:59:33] Yes okay thank you
[00:59:35] I mean I can't really come up with anything at the moment
[00:59:37] Like get a bucket with holes in it
[00:59:39] And then go fill up another container on the other side of the room
[00:59:41] Yeah I mean it could be something that's feasibly like
[00:59:43] Come up with a solution to this sweat task
[00:59:45] When you can't do any of these things
[00:59:47] Right but I don't have to get up
[00:59:49] Right
[00:59:51] I think you'd have to
[00:59:53] You might be able to get up
[00:59:55] But you'd have to
[00:59:57] I think you'd have to
[00:59:59] You might prepare some things ahead of time
[01:00:01] You would have to get up
[01:00:03] Like Grace would say go put on
[01:00:05] Come back dressed as your favorite survivor
[01:00:07] You'd have to get up
[01:00:09] That will get your blood circulating so you can become warmer
[01:00:11] But I think that we would be judges
[01:00:13] I don't think that we would be
[01:00:15] I think we could feasibly book some survivor alumni
[01:00:17] To be the contestants instead
[01:00:19] I mean if you could get
[01:00:21] Survivor alumni to play
[01:00:23] I think that could be a very fun idea
[01:00:25] You could probably get Young Sheldon
[01:00:27] But is that this podcast?
[01:00:29] Could Grace just have that
[01:00:31] Does that need to be
[01:00:33] The weekly
[01:00:35] Summer of Survivor podcast
[01:00:37] She ran it by me saying
[01:00:39] I could do this separately
[01:00:41] Or if you wanted to use it you can as well
[01:00:43] So yeah if we're happy to pass
[01:00:45] I'm sure she'd be more than happy to take it
[01:00:47] Okay
[01:00:49] I feel like you don't need all of us for that
[01:00:51] But if Grace does it separately
[01:00:53] Can I do it still?
[01:00:55] Yeah I think so
[01:00:57] Okay
[01:00:59] Let's get the cast
[01:01:01] I'll bring in another Grace idea here
[01:01:03] I'll go back to the drafts for a second
[01:01:05] So this is an idea that
[01:01:07] Grace had had during
[01:01:09] Perhaps the Twilight era of
[01:01:11] Post Show Recap she called it rough draft
[01:01:13] In this moment but basically what it is
[01:01:15] It's a draft but it's more so
[01:01:17] Done in the style of like a fantasy sports team
[01:01:19] Where there are specific slots
[01:01:21] You have to occupy
[01:01:23] So if we're drafting seasons for example
[01:01:25] You have to draft a new era season
[01:01:27] You have to draft a returnee season
[01:01:29] You have to draft a season with a female winner
[01:01:31] And so then your strategy is
[01:01:33] What slot am I filling where
[01:01:35] With which quality season
[01:01:37] Hmm
[01:01:41] I can't say no to that
[01:01:43] I feel like Peter will divorce me
[01:01:45] Board drafting seasons not players
[01:01:47] So we could also do
[01:01:49] The perfect try where you draft players
[01:01:51] This was suggested as well
[01:01:53] Where it's like oh you pick a strategist
[01:01:55] A challenge beast, a wild card etc etc
[01:01:57] I think I like the season thing better
[01:01:59] But I think both are fun
[01:02:01] Yeah I think it's
[01:02:03] I like the strategy involved in it
[01:02:05] Where it's not just a straight up draft
[01:02:07] It's also okay you have to strategically pick
[01:02:09] What you want to go for
[01:02:11] Because inevitably you do have to fill everything
[01:02:13] And you don't want to be necessarily like left over
[01:02:15] If there's only five returnee seasons
[01:02:17] You don't want to be left with like the bad one
[01:02:19] To have to put in there
[01:02:21] Don't talk about that
[01:02:23] Yeah no
[01:02:25] I like it
[01:02:27] Two
[01:02:29] What do you think Rob
[01:02:31] Yeah two is fine
[01:02:33] Well two's not fine, one is fine
[01:02:35] And two's like okay
[01:02:37] I give it a two, I think there's legs there
[01:02:39] And I think we could come up with some fun stuff
[01:02:41] Those are just a couple of examples
[01:02:43] I think you should give it a three
[01:02:45] To just put it over the edge
[01:02:47] I think we did
[01:02:49] That you know
[01:02:51] We'll have them on the side
[01:02:53] What if the categories are really funny
[01:02:55] Imagine if they were really really funny
[01:02:57] The categories I think
[01:02:59] Should be very off the wall
[01:03:01] Yeah that could be like
[01:03:03] Mother
[01:03:05] Mom
[01:03:07] Every podcast is secretly mothers vs moms
[01:03:09] The whole summer
[01:03:11] And at the end we've just like
[01:03:13] Rickrolled everyone but by accident
[01:03:15] Yeah
[01:03:17] Okay
[01:03:19] Alright here's another one
[01:03:21] Maybe this will be a draft or maybe this will be a casting thing
[01:03:23] Could we create a ghost island 2
[01:03:25] Of course ghost island
[01:03:27] Filled with the mistakes of
[01:03:29] 35 seasons of Survivor's past
[01:03:31] Suffice it to say
[01:03:33] A lot of mistakes have happened since
[01:03:35] Survivor 36
[01:03:37] 45 even some might say
[01:03:39] Could we fill an island with either unused advantages
[01:03:41] If we want to go super obtuse
[01:03:43] And make it so that we're made by players
[01:03:45] And put them on this mythical island
[01:03:47] I'm gonna bring up
[01:03:49] Rob's enemy Mike White
[01:03:51] Is it fun
[01:03:53] It is interesting can we have fun with it
[01:03:55] How are we gonna make this unhinged
[01:03:57] That's actually the question I think we should ask all ideas
[01:03:59] How are we gonna make this unhinged
[01:04:01] I mean you're singing my music right now
[01:04:03] Yeah
[01:04:05] Yeah I don't think this is that unhinged
[01:04:07] Like I don't know if there's any of the
[01:04:09] Like knowledge is power
[01:04:11] Or
[01:04:13] I would put knowledge is power in there
[01:04:15] It's like okay great they're on ghost island 2
[01:04:17] Then we have to come up with
[01:04:19] Their new powers
[01:04:21] That's a good one yeah now we have to come up with
[01:04:23] But what does it look like now
[01:04:25] It has matured what does it look like
[01:04:27] In its teenage era
[01:04:29] I think we could have fun with it
[01:04:31] I think we could have fun with most things honestly
[01:04:33] I didn't expect the moms vs mothers thing to even go as far as it did
[01:04:35] So yeah
[01:04:37] Two
[01:04:39] I'll give it a two
[01:04:41] I'll give it a one
[01:04:43] Okay so it's like it's fine
[01:04:45] Yeah
[01:04:47] I don't think you're taking the zero into account
[01:04:49] I'll take it into account
[01:04:51] When he really gets to
[01:04:53] When I really despise something
[01:04:55] I'll give it a zero
[01:04:57] Should I
[01:04:59] Maybe I'll
[01:05:01] I love how we were gonna go back and forth but this is so much better
[01:05:03] Really okay
[01:05:05] I mean I'll jiggle the switch maybe Rob
[01:05:07] What am I like a toilet
[01:05:11] Your words not mine
[01:05:13] Should we
[01:05:15] Dare I say
[01:05:17] Bring back the Survivor Hot Takeoff
[01:05:19] This is gonna be Rob's zero
[01:05:21] You didn't hate the Survivor Hot Takeoff
[01:05:23] You did not
[01:05:25] I know you were not a fan of
[01:05:27] My totally last night
[01:05:29] Survivor Hot Takeoff
[01:05:31] What I get mad about is that I feel like that people
[01:05:33] Don't understand what a hot take is supposed to be
[01:05:35] supposed to be. Okay, give us a hot take now as a and then give us something that's not
[01:05:39] a hot take with people think is a hot take as a method of demonstration. Do it right
[01:05:43] now. Um, get rid of the survivor fire making is not a hot take. It's not mean it's hot
[01:05:49] because of the fire. Yeah, but it's not hot like because it's not a hot take. But everyone
[01:05:53] knows everyone agrees with that. The hot take would be I like fire making. Sure. And you
[01:06:00] said that lives Liz and then look what happened. Really does a maybe we'll have an opportunity
[01:06:06] to look at those 46 preseason interviews because it was just rife with irony considering the
[01:06:11] whole season. Yeah. And then what's the real hot take? Um, the best player of the new era
[01:06:18] is Jalinski. That's not a hot take because it's it's not like no one. No offense is Jalinski
[01:06:25] watching. No one believes that like that's just somebody could make the case of what
[01:06:30] and then they had like then the explanation of here's why because blah, blah, blah, blah,
[01:06:35] blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's bad hot take. Yeah, it's kind of an annoying podcast.
[01:06:40] I see why Rob doesn't like it. Mm hmm. Like I wanted to bring it up because it was agree
[01:06:45] with me on what a hot take is. OK, so maybe we do a podcast where we decide what a hot
[01:06:50] take is and we subsequently do a hot take off. So the last survivor hot take off was
[01:06:54] done in June. And then this is where we would get into the problems on Renap where it's
[01:06:58] like, OK, but then and then that person has this is a hot take and then they have the
[01:07:03] paragraph to explain it. And then on Renap we would get into a lot of like, I don't agree
[01:07:10] with it, but it's interesting. Like it's provocative. OK, yeah. Um, hot take just like the survivor
[01:07:18] 46 jury. I think we could probably do that. Um, interesting. I get I'm giving too many
[01:07:27] twos. See, now I feel like I've lost the call you, Shannon twos. I didn't get it. Like
[01:07:34] Gus with two with two. Oh, it didn't sound a lot like Gus. So I disregarded it. Thank
[01:07:40] you. Um, I don't know. I feel like it is. Rob is right. People don't know what a hot
[01:07:46] take is. I don't really know. Yeah. Yeah. But I do. I did enjoy the hot take off. You
[01:07:52] know, I think I'm going to say that I'm not sure what it was last time. I don't know.
[01:07:57] I feel like I did what I was last time in 2017. Maybe we wait 10 years. You know, 20
[01:08:02] several teen. Yeah. I think what Rob is basically saying is that the reception to hot take podcasts
[01:08:11] are almost never positive uniformly. It's almost always either saying that it's not
[01:08:16] a hot take or why did you decide this was the take to win? Yeah. OK. So you love negative
[01:08:22] action. I'm going down to one after you said people were mad about it. I probably I'd probably
[01:08:26] give it a one as well. Oh, wow. We don't like the hot take off. I guess we're still in 2027
[01:08:31] hot take off to hot. Yeah. I took off. That's the Canadian version. Wow. All right. So we're
[01:08:39] still using 20 several in 2020, 20, 20, several instead of 2027. Got to truly all her brains
[01:08:46] are broken. That'll be in years from now. Jelinski will have one survivor by then. Yeah,
[01:08:53] here's an idea from Dan that I find a little interesting here. There's a baseball column
[01:08:58] called Finding the Single Memory that defines each baseball season since 1903. I would love
[01:09:03] to hear something like this using each season of Survivor, especially because some might
[01:09:08] not be so obvious or might be things that stand out more now than they did when they
[01:09:11] aired. OK, I love this so much for the reason of I think about this all the time. I think
[01:09:16] about it so much in my brain and I'd love to unleash that. Can we go back to the baseball
[01:09:20] column that there is a singular moment of each baseball season that defines the season?
[01:09:26] Oh, this is not apparently I have a link and everything. Yeah. It seems like there is an
[01:09:30] ESPN like ongoing story where they talk about what is the most like I think what they're
[01:09:35] trying to say is either the most and this will be the discussion, right, is like memorability
[01:09:38] versus iconicness. And sometimes they're the same and sometimes they're not. Sometimes a survivor
[01:09:44] moment happens and it's instantly iconic. Yeah, exactly. Other times it takes years for things.
[01:09:51] Yeah, and they actually they actually outlined seven ways, several ways that these moments are
[01:09:57] defined, which is really interesting. This is so fun and good. And it's like how like Maria
[01:10:01] Maria not voting for Charlie is the like already immediately like the movie. That's
[01:10:06] the signature moment of Survivor 46. Yeah, I really think so. That's the kind of debate I want
[01:10:11] to have because I really think that and I think it's really fun. And we I really want to. I really
[01:10:16] like this idea because then I think it'll also be fun. I think they're not getting Applebee's.
[01:10:20] Oh, that is a good one. See that. That's good. Let's talk about it. But I think the Maria one,
[01:10:24] I think that that could because because I think there's also then there's also this discussion,
[01:10:29] though, of like what's memorable versus versus what represents the season. Right. Yeah. Hide
[01:10:34] and seek is representative of what Survivor 46 is. But is it the most memorable? I don't think
[01:10:39] we should do 46 moments on one. I think we should have like a bingo ball machine. Oh, and pick
[01:10:46] seasons out. I would be like the literal bingo ball machine. Do you have one? I think I might
[01:10:53] have to be what, like 20 bucks. Prices work this. Let's see. Yeah. But I think. Yeah. And watch me
[01:11:00] draw like Redemption Island. Yeah. What's what is the what? Yeah. I would rather have those
[01:11:08] seasons than yet like Borneo. Right. Which is just snakes and rats. Yeah. But obviously you
[01:11:12] move on quickly. We can do 46. I do think we should use a bingo ball machine for a lot more
[01:11:16] than we're currently using it for, which is nothing. Sam, could you price a bingo ball
[01:11:20] machine? Sam, give me a bingo machine. The grocery store clerk. I want to look it up. I'm doing a
[01:11:26] podcast. I'll look it up. I'll look it up. No, I want all the people on the podcast to concentrate
[01:11:31] on the podcast. Oh, OK. Now we're concentrating instead of reading the chat. Well, the chat talks
[01:11:37] to me directly. So they want a draft of all my they want a season of all my draft players. So
[01:11:43] I finally have a winner. Oh, I also do get a suggestion for a brain seal of all the players
[01:11:48] that the or all the people that the players told me would be their celebrity loved one.
[01:11:52] Mm hmm. Have we not done that? No. You and I talked about it for Survivor South Africa.
[01:11:59] But we haven't done that. Hi, you want to do you would want to do that instead of the celebrity
[01:12:04] survivor? Oh, no, that's much worse. No, that's what the celebrities who care about Survivor
[01:12:11] put them in the brand steel. There's some there's some stakes there. They might be interested.
[01:12:16] The Rock and Whitney Houston are not going to care about this brand steel.
[01:12:22] They don't think they will care about much. I think she's
[01:12:27] that's what I'm saying. Why would you go to Whitney? Not cool. That was Tevin.
[01:12:35] Tevin and Soda both said Whitney. Let's do a morning. We need to do that.
[01:12:38] OK, a bingo ball machine is like 20 dollars Australian. So for you guys, it's really cheap.
[01:12:42] Yeah. And I'm saying it's twenty two dollars. OK, I said so we can have silent hour. Sorry,
[01:12:48] Boston Rob dollars. Yeah, we could have the bingo ball machine here next week.
[01:12:52] I love this with the bingo balls. Honestly, being a machine like this,
[01:12:58] I might put this as a leading candidate for next. That's a bingo.
[01:13:01] I really like it. And I really like that it made the sentence. We could have the
[01:13:04] bingo ball machine here by next week. Three. Like imagine hearing that an hour ago.
[01:13:10] Like where are we? There we go. I love it. And then we could play real bingo.
[01:13:15] Mm hmm. Really? We've actually just ended the ends that we're in the G era. That's true.
[01:13:23] What do you mean? Seasons one through 15 were the B era.
[01:13:28] Oh, OK. Seasons 16 to 30 were the I era. Yes. And then a lot on now. Now we're looking for the G
[01:13:35] spot and then we'll move into the O phase. I'm just trying to be here talking about bingo balls
[01:13:41] and I don't know why. Anyway, I play bingo on cruises and I haven't won, but there was a raffle
[01:13:48] at bingo and I want that and I want to if I could find the bingo shirt I want in the raffle. It says
[01:13:53] follow the bouncing balls. OK, and you're mocking me for G spot and O face Zanz in the chat says
[01:14:00] Rob, hire me. I will make bingo online. Play along at home. Now, I'm not sure necessarily how you
[01:14:05] play along at home in this particular game, but I'm listening. Yeah, but I do think we should get
[01:14:14] the balls. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, we're going to have the balls. It doesn't work without the
[01:14:19] balls, but it is fun. OK, three. I think I think it's three is across the board. OK, three like
[01:14:29] in B3. There we go. That's a good one. That is a good thing. And I think, listen, well, we'll have
[01:14:35] the list at the end, but to me, at least this is a leader in the clubhouse for something we could
[01:14:38] feasibly do next week as long as we have. We really like moms versus mothers. Oh, I don't know.
[01:14:44] That's true. We're going to vote at the end of the podcast. Everybody's going to put their
[01:14:49] their balance. Absolute leaders in the clubhouse. One hundred percent. Like I'm really excited about
[01:14:54] both bingo balls, that idea and moms versus mothers. OK, all right. Should we. Are there
[01:15:04] any tearless? Melissa B says I want to be on screen yet. Thank you, Sam. At the same time. Yeah.
[01:15:08] Help Melissa. There you go. Shannon is the voice of the people. Melissa wants to call in. Do you
[01:15:14] have something to say, Melissa? Oh, no, no, no. That's fine. But I was into the call in show.
[01:15:20] Mike vetoed it with like a hard veto. Why am I getting blamed for them now? Why am I in this
[01:15:26] role? It was both under the bus and I thought I would join him and kick you even further.
[01:15:30] I'll be the butt monkey of this podcast. That's fine.
[01:15:34] Sam, send Melissa the link. Give her 60 seconds.
[01:15:42] All right. Well, I'm not doing Robinism podcast. Yeah. What's what's the harm?
[01:15:47] Wait, another check. I'm literally so happy right now. OK, Sam, figure out how to get Melissa
[01:15:53] the link. Put Melissa on the podcast. Don't make her night. Shannon, lead them on an in-depth
[01:15:59] strategy discussion about a super niche survivor topic of your choice.
[01:16:04] OK, can you give us an example of what that would be?
[01:16:07] Yeah, give a few extra votes, tie votes, implicit immunity, split votes.
[01:16:12] So I think this is something that you and I had been discussing offline. I think there
[01:16:18] is something we could do about like on the podcast. It's being organized in the chat.
[01:16:23] I can't wait to see Melissa. Can we do something like a survivor math class where like
[01:16:28] if we have the great minds of Christian and Shane, it's fun, Mike. I don't know if we're ready.
[01:16:34] But if we could have that, we could have people come on and be like, what's the right way to
[01:16:39] split a vote? You know, we're like, could we get a little bit a little bit heady? Yeah.
[01:16:43] OK, I know I was bringing up Dalton as a joke, but it is true. I was talking about this with
[01:16:48] Mike. I just want this on Twitter with Josh Kettles last night about like survivor formulas. Now you
[01:16:52] get Christian on, you get out the whiteboard and you have like five and my quarter like hacks,
[01:16:57] five survivor hacks, like formulas you go to 99 percent of the time. We have fun with it.
[01:17:03] It'd be nerdy. It'd be Rob's not loving it. You know, I just feel like this is
[01:17:10] summer of Survivor. Like we just finished the school year. Like this is our summer vacation.
[01:17:15] For me, I'm a nerd. I want to be in summer school just a little bit,
[01:17:20] just once. And then I'll go back to moms versus mothers. And I'm sure we could have a mother
[01:17:24] formula. Yeah. And you're going to do all these formulas on the podcast. Yep. But fun formulas,
[01:17:31] fun formulas, fun formulas. Around like implicit immunity and I'm splitting the vote
[01:17:38] and trying to dock Christian would be there. I give it a three. If you get. I mean,
[01:17:44] I will also say that there are just part of the schedule, but there will be a couple of weeks
[01:17:48] for Rob and I will both be absent. I do think while the cats are away, the mice might play.
[01:17:52] Oh, that's fun. That's like, oh, you guys are gone and now it's not silly. And now it's just
[01:17:56] very boring. You're clearly very excited about it. I'm excited. I'm a boring person. How many
[01:18:02] boring people do we have in the chat? Come on, guys. Back me up. Just not right. It's fun.
[01:18:08] And it could be something you remember and some people taking their strategic analysis going
[01:18:13] forward. And it wouldn't be like serious, serious. I mean, Sam, Sam, Sam, I like math. Thank you for
[01:18:22] giving both sides of that coin. Summer school, boring people rise. Yes. Boring people unite. Oh,
[01:18:27] yes. Boring people. That's it. We're going to get much. Yeah. Leave Shannon alone. The chat is my
[01:18:34] people. I just want to say that you're just like saying things in the chat and the people that are
[01:18:39] listening to the podcast think that you're having some kind of like mental breakdown.
[01:18:43] Yeah. That you're channeling young children like your friends. Just
[01:18:48] just saying random non sequiturs. That's really mean to point out in front of the chat.
[01:18:59] I like math. We already have that one. OK. All right. Speaking of math, time to give the numbers
[01:19:04] for this one. I will give this one a two with the Melissa saying that I think that I think that
[01:19:11] Shannon and it would be in very good hands to do this. Yes. You're welcome to this podcast anytime.
[01:19:17] But as far as summer of survivors concerned, I'll give it a one. OK. OK, well, maybe I just
[01:19:22] will do that then. Maybe I'll just upgrade it to a two if you get Christian. It's definitely
[01:19:26] going to have Christian. I'm not doing without Christian. Doing a formula podcast without
[01:19:30] Christian would be so insulting. So Christian's like he's a key component of it. OK, well,
[01:19:36] this is where is Melissa Sam? Melissa is MIA and there's some E and some L's and some S's in there
[01:19:44] as well. All right. Well, what about what about a you did this in the past, Rob? But could we do
[01:19:51] some sort of form of a family feud? The chat is that's interesting. I think if we do a survivor
[01:19:58] specific survey where it could be things like, you know, it could be something as simple as like,
[01:20:04] well, who's your favorite runner up to something even sillier like, you know. Yeah, I have done
[01:20:12] survivor family feud in the past with real survivors. Yes. And there were mixed results.
[01:20:22] OK, what would we do? We like pull the patrons and then are there survivors or there is it just us?
[01:20:30] I think we could have probably each bring on like one or two people for each of our teams.
[01:20:36] I don't think we're going for like a full, full roundtable here. Yeah, it's interesting.
[01:20:41] So what year was that? What year was that? They did the survivor family feud.
[01:20:46] Yeah, I would guess it was following worlds apart. So I mean, I guess it was sometime around
[01:20:56] 2015. Yeah. Was this the one you did in Utah or you talk about a different one?
[01:20:59] Oh, then we did one in Utah. Yeah. In 2017, that one went a little bit better.
[01:21:04] What do you mean? Because that was a lot. What was the problem? We can fix these problems.
[01:21:08] I think I remember that. Worlds apart, Jen said right before we went on,
[01:21:18] I'm going to ruin your game. If I recall correctly, it was why didn't she?
[01:21:22] Why didn't she is versus dirty 30, if I remember correctly? Yes. Jen Brown. Right. It looks like
[01:21:27] it was in 2016, 2016. OK, that could happen to you. Maybe it was right after that season.
[01:21:33] Wow. This is taking me so much down memory lane of when I was a listener.
[01:21:36] That being said, I think we could definitely vet some alumni that would come on that would
[01:21:41] probably not bring that type of attitude. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Yeah. I mean, if there was
[01:21:48] Survivor 44 versus Survivor 45, like I think that that would be very fun. Yeah,
[01:21:53] that would be actually a really fun idea. Well, maybe Survivor 46.
[01:21:57] Made a mistake. We're not derailing this. We're their family, right?
[01:22:01] No, they're not. I don't think it's together. And they know, you know, Venus has an answer.
[01:22:11] 46 versus 46, much like Twitter is right now. I'll give this I'll give this a three. I think
[01:22:16] it's a fun game show idea that we can do. Yeah. 46 versus 46. Yeah. Well, I think I think that
[01:22:22] just much like real Survivor, like Survivor Family Feud, it's like 80 percent about casting. Right.
[01:22:27] So we cast it well. We have fun. I think we do it. I think we could have Rob Host and Shannon and I
[01:22:33] are each a part of one of the teams as well. Scott is putting the food in Family Feud. Yeah. Wait,
[01:22:39] am I on the team? Yeah. You and I would I think you and I would be on each of the teams. OK,
[01:22:45] so my family versus your family. You're my family. Your family is Survivor 44 or my family 45. Yeah,
[01:22:52] as it should be. Yeah, I want 42. That's my family. People compare me to Drew enough. I think
[01:22:57] it's fine that we finally like, OK, Mike has a season. Shannon has a season. Our survey says.
[01:23:04] I like it. I'll give it a three. You do that quickly. OK, that's going to take a lot to put
[01:23:10] together because we're going to have some pretty rigorous casting. Yeah, well, that's why it's on
[01:23:13] the shortlist, you know, so we can figure it out at some point. Yeah, I'll put another I'll put
[01:23:16] another one on here that actually had been suggested, but was also in the chat as well.
[01:23:19] And this is something we do in the B&B a couple of times, and it has been such a great success.
[01:23:25] Rob, claim to fame is returning. What? Beginning of July. We have done a survivor claim to fame
[01:23:32] in the past where Liana has done a little bit of benevolent online stalking and found relatives
[01:23:38] of Survivor players. Wow. We guess who they are. Oh, my gosh. Are there people that are relevant?
[01:23:43] Don't tell me. Spoiler. Yeah, well, they're not like they're not like putting up a picture
[01:23:48] of Sierra and they're like, guess whose relative that is? Like there are people that have not
[01:23:51] appeared on the show. Mm hmm. Can you give me an example of someone that we won't use that she gave?
[01:23:57] Uh, I think she gave well, there was a one point we did one on Big Brother where she jokingly put
[01:24:01] Frankie Grande on there. But yes, we. So, Lone Biles, the sister. Yeah, exactly. But I think
[01:24:07] I think we had done at one point like there was a current contestants mom that maybe she had used
[01:24:13] at a certain point. I'll have to go back. We've done it a few times in the past, but somebody
[01:24:18] we are guessing then like clues off of is somebody like a fan or a podcaster putting this all
[01:24:27] together? Yeah, I imagine that there would be a group that would or one person that could do it.
[01:24:32] They'd come on and yeah, basically it's the same way the show works. They give us a picture.
[01:24:36] They give us clues along the way. And then when we think we have a guest,
[01:24:39] we lock it in and then we guess who it is. You have to get Jenny also.
[01:24:42] We have to get Jenny as well. Yes. To Andrew's point, I believe she did use Jared
[01:24:47] on before Big Brother 25 when talking about Surrey. OK, so why? Because it's
[01:24:53] no, it's before Big Brother 25 when we were doing up like, oh, who's whose relative is this? Like,
[01:24:57] oh, that's Jared. He was on the show before. It was a joke. It was a joke.
[01:25:00] Oh, OK, because he wasn't famous. No. OK. Is he saying to stay? Yeah. OK.
[01:25:06] His what was? To Izzy, he was famous. Oh, right. And we knew Jared, but he wasn't famous. I don't
[01:25:12] think I don't think just knowing someone makes him famous. OK. All right. So I feel like that.
[01:25:17] So if this was Renap, I would say this is a good idea, but I feel like it's not fully baked.
[01:25:25] I feel like that we would need to put it into the waiting room and have like somebody come forward
[01:25:30] and say, hey, I want to put this together. So I would say put a pin in it. And like was it
[01:25:39] Pedro Pascal who once said, let's put a pin in it and come back with a listener or friend of
[01:25:48] the podcast who would be interested in putting this all together. OK. Yeah, I think that's right.
[01:25:53] Oh, I'm OK. The chat has just explained this idea to me that I didn't get me because I was looking
[01:25:59] too much at the chat. Yeah, I think that might be a problem. They're your best and your worst
[01:26:02] quality right now. My concentration is concerning. So it's not that survivor players are it's not
[01:26:10] the survivor players are related to famous people. No, no. It's that I don't think I get
[01:26:15] enough survivor players that are related to famous people. You would get a random person and we have
[01:26:19] to guess the survivor. Here's a random person and his name is Dave. OK, Dave, tell us like
[01:26:26] I don't know. It doesn't need to be the person. It's just like here's a picture. Here's a picture
[01:26:30] of Dave. I thought you were going to be like me and be like Q is related to like Denzel Washington.
[01:26:40] I don't think you're going to get enough people that are related to famous people who are on
[01:26:43] Survivor like it's an ethicism that bad. Yeah, so I was like that just doesn't I was like,
[01:26:49] yeah, I was surprised that there were no. And then I'm like, if you've used so many of them
[01:26:52] on the BNB, you probably have got all the famous people's relatives who were on Survivor.
[01:26:56] Out of your system. It's not that it's totally different to that. Sure. I mean, OK, sure. Like
[01:27:00] that's a different idea than I thought, but it's still fun. OK, I think I think it's a very fun
[01:27:04] idea and hopefully doesn't feel too invasive. But I had a lot of fun playing it on the BNB,
[01:27:09] and I think it would also correlate really nicely to the return of Claim to Fame to our screens.
[01:27:14] Yes. The best of the shows other than Survivor. All right. So listener who's interested,
[01:27:21] then let us know. Yeah. Or if you want to contact a podcaster to be like, hey,
[01:27:27] they're doing this thing. Can you drum something up? I'm not going to put that all on Leona
[01:27:31] because she's doing a lot to do it. Yeah, I would love it. I'm not going to force her to do it.
[01:27:36] I don't love it. Yes, I could leave it. Exactly. She might leave it. All right. Well,
[01:27:45] speaking of a concept that we might expand. So I I've been coming up with like visuals
[01:27:51] of cast members for this daily podcast I'm doing, and I realized over the years in Survivor,
[01:27:58] we got some really interesting cast photos. How do we feel about a bit of a time warp?
[01:28:04] It's a look where we sort of take some cast photos that Bryce has not had the opportunity to review.
[01:28:11] But then I talk about them. We get some really, really funny ones. I we will get some very,
[01:28:16] very funny ones. I got to hear him talk about Debbie's tiger bathing suit.
[01:28:21] OK, so I want to hear from Bryce cherry picking through time or is it like is he doing like we
[01:28:28] get the bingo? We get the bingo balls. OK, we get the bingo. The bingo. I might as well use
[01:28:33] the bingo balls. You have them. Like we're going to be using the bingo balls. We've got I 17.
[01:28:39] All right, here we go. Bring up Gabon. No, I think I think we want to vet them. I think
[01:28:45] if they're just going to be boring outfits, let us and Bryce can make anything interesting. But
[01:28:48] I want to sort of talk about the best of the best in a manner of speaking. Yeah, OK. It's a look
[01:28:55] through time. I think it's a look through time could be a very fun concept. Yeah, yeah, I like
[01:29:01] I mean, could we also combine it like I feel like. Could it be also a tier list also? Like
[01:29:10] can we like do it's a look but also put the looks onto a tier list like kind of thing back?
[01:29:16] I love that. I just say something better than a tier list that I've never had the chance of doing.
[01:29:20] And I told Mike, I really want to do and I think we could almost this could be the format of anything
[01:29:24] moms versus mothers, all of it brackets. I've never been fortunate enough to do a bracket.
[01:29:30] I'd love to do a bracket. I think it's a great way of talking about something. And I think you
[01:29:35] could get heated with the matchups and then to get an ultimate winner. There's just this competition.
[01:29:39] There's like structure. I really want to do brackets. So I think we could do it as a bracket.
[01:29:45] I don't think that this is like a hat on a hat on a hat. I think they make it a bracket.
[01:29:50] Also, I don't know this this one because I think maybe we can talk next about stuff to make
[01:29:54] brackets. This doesn't feel necessarily like a bracket one because this is more. This feels more
[01:30:00] so like, OK, we're putting it like this feels more like a tier list idea. You get what I'm saying?
[01:30:04] Like that is that I do understand what you mean. And I think we have any good ideas for sure.
[01:30:09] Do you want to do brackets? OK, yeah, I don't know if any. So let's put this. This is three
[01:30:16] through time. Yeah, yeah. I think it's a look back would be a good way to put its
[01:30:21] bracket season in Australia. Andrew. Yeah, it's cold, but she's not. I know what the
[01:30:27] bracket season is in America, but time is down. All right. How about this, Shannon? Could we do
[01:30:34] a theme bracket? Can we take survivor themes and put them in a bracket theme song?
[01:30:39] You better than that. No theme like season themes. Boring. More different.
[01:30:44] Yeah, I guess for a bracket. Give me something. Give me some better. We need a better bracket
[01:30:50] idea. Chat, what do we got? And if we don't have it this week, we can also get ideas for next week.
[01:30:56] I think we should definitely do a bracket. Can I have your bracket? Yeah, Mike, Mike,
[01:31:04] and that's what we'll call it. We'll call it. Can I have your brain? I have your bracket. I love that.
[01:31:09] And so we have a name, but we don't have what the bracket is. We'll work it out.
[01:31:14] I think we could do a bracket bracket and then we'll be there before. He's been there before.
[01:31:20] The jacket bracket could be fun. Bracket tennis rackets. We're going to do a bracket. We don't
[01:31:29] know what bracket yet. It'll come up. Moms versus mothers be a bracket moms on one side, mothers.
[01:31:39] I think I think we'd first have to fill it out and then maybe for fathers versus
[01:31:44] daddies. Yeah, yeah. That's a little bit more of an and less of a discourse, I would say. Yeah,
[01:31:49] yeah. We could be we could any. We'll think about it like.
[01:31:54] The bracket. Yeah. OK. Yeah. Let's see. Could we do so? Rob is averse to trivia,
[01:32:05] so I don't know if you want to because I've been doing it with Jordan Kalish for 10 years.
[01:32:11] OK, could we do when Mike blooms money? It is Jordan Kalish's birthday, by the way.
[01:32:18] Well, it is in Australia, so I will not have you be. Oh, yeah, I was going to say we've got three
[01:32:22] and a half hours, Rob. No. OK, if it gets to be summer survivor, can I have one thing? Can it
[01:32:27] be Thursday at least? And bracket season, you guys get summer, I get Thursday and bracket season.
[01:32:34] It's Jordan Kalish's birthday. Happy birthday, Jordan. Oh, no. Be mean to Jordan on his birthday
[01:32:38] on this podcast. OK, well, that says that I do. But I think could we do something when Mike blooms
[01:32:48] money? We could do some sort of trivia contest and then the winner would face off against me
[01:32:53] because to be candid, I do not think it would be fair if I was a legitimate competitor on this type
[01:32:59] of contest. So wow. Whoa. It's me versus Shannon. It's me versus Shannon. And then Mike is against
[01:33:07] you. Wait, wait. What? Why are you not a legitimate competitor? Shannon, I don't know if you checked
[01:33:16] out the B&B podcast where I was given the name of an episode of Survivor and was able to tell
[01:33:22] the person who went home in it. OK, can I just say he's sick, Shannon? I know that. But I'm just
[01:33:29] saying, OK, Mike does more about survival than anything. But like, is he putting himself so much
[01:33:33] above you, Rob? No, Mike knows more than me. Mike knows more than me. Yeah. But here's the thing
[01:33:39] that's messed up. Like Survivor is like the thing I know the best. Like Survivor is probably not
[01:33:44] even the thing that Mike knows the best. I actually hate him so much for that. And I agree. Mike knows
[01:33:48] so much about so many things and more about the things I know about. Of the things that you know,
[01:33:52] what is the rank of Survivor in the topics you know the most about? I would say probably close
[01:33:59] several behind. I'd say probably it's neck and neck with like seasons one through ten. Yeah,
[01:34:06] exactly. And those would probably be the two that I'd say I'm the most. Survivor what?
[01:34:14] Like first the first 10 seasons of Simpsons, like Golden Era Simpsons.
[01:34:18] Yeah. And as well, that's also up there for me and the stuff I know the best. And Mike knows
[01:34:21] more about that than I do. I could take I could take you on Taylor Swift and I think we should.
[01:34:25] But Mike does know more about Survivor than both of us. I agree that that is the order what like
[01:34:29] Mike, Rob, me or like. But if we're going global, then I would. Yeah, you beat me. Not you. I don't
[01:34:35] think Rob because Rob hasn't seen everything. Do you want to beat you? I think you'd beat me.
[01:34:40] Yeah, you bring up some things from previous Australia seasons that I don't necessarily
[01:34:44] remember. OK, well, this is my thing. OK, first of all, of our skills, Mike has more skills than
[01:34:48] we do. But Mike's disparity isn't so much above us that he's not part of even trivia to test it.
[01:34:56] Let's just table that for a second. So what's the idea that me versus Shannon in trivia?
[01:35:00] And then the winner plays Mike. Why? Why? I mean, if you don't show,
[01:35:05] I mean, if you don't want to do it, you could also we could throw like an Omer or a Zach or
[01:35:09] someone on here as well as like a school year. Yeah, that's this is the sum is my summer vacation
[01:35:14] from trivia. OK, but I'm from Jordan. We love Jordan. Give us a zero. Oh, OK. Well, this is
[01:35:23] the rarefied Jordan's birthday for you. Yes. I can't believe you rock star tonight.
[01:35:39] I don't know why I came into this podcast. So that's what I was trying to reference.
[01:35:48] I'll give it a I'll give it a one. OK, I'll give it I'll give it a one. I just thought I'd throw
[01:35:55] it out there of like if there is some sort of satiation for survivor trivia, there's this
[01:36:00] is a way we could do it. What happened to Melissa as well? Yeah. Where is Melissa? Where is Melissa?
[01:36:09] Mike, that was what you wanted to come on that badly. I do know who rock star is, by the way.
[01:36:17] Um, Mike, let's not forget that Mike just literally was like, well, I can't do trivia
[01:36:21] with you plebs. You did not apply to R.A.P. and you, Shannon, whose whole identity is that
[01:36:27] I'm not true. You throw me under the bus again. That's what you said. It's on the podcast.
[01:36:33] I would just say that I want to make for like an interesting podcast. Where is Melissa?
[01:36:40] All right, let's keep she's figuring it out. Melissa's figuring it out. OK,
[01:36:44] she's trying. OK. All right. So this could this could be a bunch of ideas sort of crammed
[01:36:49] into one. Rob, you did this on R.A.P. Mount Rushmore, which is like sort of a the podcast
[01:36:56] doesn't end until we hear from Melissa, by the way. Yeah. All right. We might be here all night
[01:37:00] until Jordan Kalish's actual birthday, but not really a time. But basically, this would be
[01:37:07] sort of a rapid fire, like, all right, Mount Rushmore of survivor sponsors, Mount Rushmore
[01:37:14] of survivor screams. It would be those those lighter topics and we just do the top four and
[01:37:20] we do multiple rounds as many as we want to. OK, yeah, I would give it like a two if we get a good
[01:37:28] list of them, I think. Yeah, we get a really good list. Yeah, I think we do. One of my most
[01:37:32] excited ideas, but. It's fine. Yeah, we should. I think it could work, it'd be one of those
[01:37:40] fun sort of doting upon survivor seasons past without necessarily needing to focus on like
[01:37:45] something inherently serious. It's a good name. So, yeah, much more.
[01:37:53] Rob wants Mount Rushless or Mount Rushless is a different podcast.
[01:37:59] We could do Mount Flushmore as well of like who are the worst.
[01:38:03] Mount Rushmore. We like to be positive. OK, hold on. We have here with us. OK, backstage.
[01:38:15] Finally, Melissa. Melissa, are you there? Yes. Can you hear me? Yes.
[01:38:23] Oh my God, I can't believe it. I just want to be on camera. OK, all right. No need. OK,
[01:38:28] Melissa, you're good. You were so excited in the chat. Maybe that should be part of it.
[01:38:33] What should we get? Maybe we should have our most excited person in the chat on the show
[01:38:38] at some point. Oh, please. OK, Melissa, you were so excited. You said you just wanted to come on
[01:38:45] the podcast. What did you want to say? I just want to say I don't even know what to say. Oh,
[01:38:49] you got it, Melissa. OK, yeah. You had a lot to say in the chat.
[01:38:53] Yeah. Melissa, where are you calling from? I'm calling from Ohio, Youngstown. OK, Ohio.
[01:38:59] Skibbity Ohio. It's not Jordan's birthday for you either. It sucks to be in Ohio. No, don't say that.
[01:39:06] OK. All right. So, Melissa, did you have an idea for us? I don't know. I have a lot of ideas.
[01:39:13] Well, listen, this is what happens. So I fall asleep at night to like watching like I just put
[01:39:18] on YouTube and I put on Rob has a podcast and I wake up to that. I know this is from like five
[01:39:23] years ago, but your top 40. Yeah. Like where you counted down the seasons. We do that. Like
[01:39:29] you said, I mean, that's a good idea. But should we do that again?
[01:39:34] Just like the new era season. So, OK, interesting. We have gotten a few ideas about not doing the
[01:39:42] full rundown, but ranking the new era seasons. Obviously, this is a little bit less of a light
[01:39:48] idea than we've been suggesting. But how do we feel about it? Put the new era Mount Rushmore
[01:39:52] on the Mount Rushmore podcast. Well, we already have someone claiming that he should be on. Yes.
[01:39:57] OK. All right. That's a lot of work, Melissa. I know, but I fall asleep and I wake up.
[01:40:03] I'm putting my camera on. OK, there we go. So I'm Melissa. Hello. Yes. Thank you for being brave.
[01:40:09] Thank you for organizing. My face looks crooked. But yeah, I just love your podcast. My sister
[01:40:16] got me into your podcast a couple of years ago with Big Brother and now I'm a bigger fan than
[01:40:21] she is. Well, Melissa, I appreciate your enthusiasm and your excitement for this crazy podcast.
[01:40:30] Well, I thank you so much for coming up with the great content. I love it.
[01:40:33] OK, Melissa, any other ideas for us?
[01:40:36] Um, Jeopardy. Oh, we can't play with Mike Bloom. He knows too much.
[01:40:41] Or winners at peace. How about a winners at peace? We've done.
[01:40:46] We actually did. We're the piece to six more people.
[01:40:51] Well, let's then go to war. Add some people. Yeah, just add some more.
[01:40:55] OK, Melissa, is there an idea that you heard that we were talking about tonight that you really
[01:40:59] don't want us to do? You know what? Whatever you put on there, I'll be OK with.
[01:41:04] OK. All right. Melissa, thank you for calling. OK, I can't wait to tell my sister.
[01:41:10] OK. Hi. All right. Don't be a stranger.
[01:41:15] All right. Bye, Melissa. OK, we got one.
[01:41:21] I don't know why everybody was like, no, no callers.
[01:41:24] And that was really nice. So we could pick and choose. I think,
[01:41:28] you know, the absence makes the heart grow fonder. All right. So here's an idea that
[01:41:34] was suggested by a couple of people, as well as in the chat survivor. What if?
[01:41:39] And Rob, you've done this a bit with like quantum leap sliding doors,
[01:41:42] ask ideas. But I think there's plenty of decisions in survivor that we can go back to.
[01:41:47] If this happens, what happens from then on out? Yeah, it's so hard to do. I think that
[01:41:52] there are probably some interesting survivor. What ifs? But I'm willing to give it a shot.
[01:42:00] All right. OK, well, I watched the first season of What If? It was OK.
[01:42:05] What was the first season of What If? It's Marvel.
[01:42:08] It's Marvel What If? Oh yeah, it's like a cartoon.
[01:42:11] Yeah. Yeah. Well, you don't watch the cartoons. You're above the cartoons.
[01:42:15] Is it really the MCU? Rob says I need flesh and blood to believe it.
[01:42:18] Is it canon if it's a cartoon? Yeah, it's actually a big part of what happens later on.
[01:42:23] All the TV shows are. That's why I don't miss one because I'm a completionist and I have OCD.
[01:42:27] To be fair, what if it's specifically about the multiverse where things are not in canon
[01:42:32] with the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Yeah. But then with Marvel, then the multiverse became
[01:42:36] such a big part. Like I'm pretty sure in Doctor Strange, something from What If was in it. I can't
[01:42:40] remember right now, but that it was. But anyway, what if what is that though? We're just talking
[01:42:45] it through. We're telling like a story. Yeah, I think it would just be sort of talking through.
[01:42:49] I mean, it depends on what the situation would be. It could be as simple as like
[01:42:53] if D's voted out of the final five, what happens? It could be something. There was
[01:42:56] certainly a suggestion as well to go through all the seasons with the force final four fire making
[01:43:01] and talk about what would happen in a regular final four vote and who would win.
[01:43:05] But what are we gaining? Like, OK, now we know. And what did we gain? Actually,
[01:43:09] that's not kind of a big thing for many of this. It's very existential. What are we gaining from
[01:43:16] trivia where Mike loses and gets brought down to pay? What? We're not doing trivia,
[01:43:20] but what are we losing? What are we gaining by moms versus mothers? Everything.
[01:43:27] Yeah, I think we can reverse Thanos. Yeah, exactly. You snap your fingers and there's
[01:43:32] actually twice as many stuff that we've learned. What did we gain? Yeah. And so I think if we
[01:43:39] solicit enough good stuff, there is there are some legs here to do something. No pain, no gain. OK.
[01:43:46] All right. But OK, I am if Kelly goes with one, by the way, which was from Amanda Turner in the
[01:43:51] chat, there is no survivor. I think that's always been the thing, right? That show got canceled so
[01:43:55] long ago and none of us are here doing this podcast. But I don't know. I'm going to give it a
[01:44:01] one. I'll give it to I'll give it to I'll give it to as well. I think there's something there. OK,
[01:44:08] I will bring up another outwit outplay out list. Can we go a little aesthetic here? How about
[01:44:15] tribal council sets? You know, this is what I get. This is for the survivor hot takeoff.
[01:44:22] Well, a soapbox. I think that they should solve world hunger and stop rebuilding tribal council.
[01:44:31] The absolute definition of insanity is that they spend like a million dollars to build a tribal
[01:44:40] council for 13 episodes of a TV show that is frickin so dark you can I'm sure it looks cool,
[01:44:47] Mike, in person, but on TV there is zero difference that even to the like for Mike
[01:44:54] Bloom. Get this tribal council set for Survivor 41, 42, 43, 44, 45 and try to tell the difference.
[01:45:03] They spend an astronomical amount of money to rebuild tribal council every season,
[01:45:10] build one cool ass tribal council and leave it forever. Why are they doing this?
[01:45:19] It's such a good take. If that's the hot take of that wins. Unbelievable take like 100 percent.
[01:45:25] Mike, Mike could actually get up the tribal councils from 41 through 45. 46 is obvious.
[01:45:30] Mike was at 40. I was at 46. 41 to 45. Mike could do it. I don't think anyone else could. I totally
[01:45:37] agree with Rob. Tribal council sets are like nipple tattoos to me. I don't notice them.
[01:45:45] What? That's a sentence I never thought I'd hear in my life. You would remember a nipple tattoo
[01:45:49] that you saw. No, I don't because it took Owen seven weeks of Australian Survivor last year to
[01:45:55] point out to me that Jerry had a nipple tattoo. I don't notice it. Do you think Owen would know
[01:45:59] the difference between the tribal council sets? He could probably identify 43. He's a very astute
[01:46:02] observational person. I bet he'll remember 43. Josh Winkler's in the chat. Yes, yes. In all
[01:46:07] seriousness, they spend so much money on this. I agree with Rob. Could they bring back 39 days in
[01:46:15] exchange for eschewing the changing of tribal council sets? Yeah, we could get it. We could
[01:46:20] get the auction every season. Even if they got the same one for the two seasons back to back.
[01:46:26] Mike, you've heard these interviews where they talk about how they had to build one set underneath
[01:46:31] the other ones so they could switch it soon. So 41, 40, Survivor 42 has exactly all of the same
[01:46:38] twists as Survivor 41 had to have a different tribal council. We couldn't have the same tribal
[01:46:42] council in Survivor. Everything else is exactly the same. Couldn't have the same tribal council
[01:46:47] in Survivor 42 that we have in Survivor 41. Yeah, you're going back to the same camps.
[01:46:51] Like you're doing similar challenges. We reuse the same puzzles. Everything is exactly the same.
[01:46:57] We will not reuse tribal council. That's their one line. But to be fair,
[01:47:05] if they tore down the sanctuary after every season and made the sanctuary over and over
[01:47:12] and over again, I might make the hot take off a tree now. I think we should just explode this
[01:47:22] wasting thing. It's the dad. Yeah, we had daddy Rob. Now we have dad Rob. No way.
[01:47:29] Big Survivor is over. Yeah, we got a lot of Survivor going on.
[01:47:35] Dollars are being wasted. Oh my God. Let Rob cook. This is go. Please more. Yes.
[01:47:44] Correct. I completely agree with Rob, but we are dismissing the hard work of probably a lot
[01:47:48] of very talented people. Sure. They can bring that into other things. They can build these big,
[01:47:53] you know where they could put the money in big gargantuan challenge sets a la Australian Survivor.
[01:47:59] Yes. Also 39 days. We give them money to pay them more through 30 more days of work.
[01:48:05] It'll go to more Applebee's. More Applebee's is also a good place. Oh, okay. New podcast idea.
[01:48:11] We come up with things they could spend this money on and then pitch it to them. What they
[01:48:17] can do with the tribal council. For real, they could double the price. I mean, they could have
[01:48:21] a real reunion at the end of the show. Yeah, that is. You're right. It's not economical.
[01:48:28] No one but Mike notices it. And please, whoever's listening out there, do not make the show for me.
[01:48:35] In many ways, I'm not the person you should be crafting Survivor around. Mike, can you explain
[01:48:40] to me a feature of the 44 tribal council set? Oh yeah, that was the medieval one. It had the
[01:48:45] big gargoyle. Oh, it was. That is true actually. Because Cain and okay, but 43. 43, I think,
[01:48:52] I know the octopus was the torch snuffer. So I feel like there had to be some sort of like
[01:48:56] flotsam and jetsam theming. You want a new torch snuffer every season? I'll give you that.
[01:49:00] You have a new torch snuffer every season and we'll change out the vote counting bucket. Okay.
[01:49:06] The earn? They literally tear down the set and build a giant new one and spend hundreds of
[01:49:15] thousands of dollars. I don't think it's hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yes, it is. Okay. How
[01:49:20] much do we think it is? Maybe that's a podcast. Jeff has talked about this on Fire podcast.
[01:49:27] All the time. I don't know how you don't see all. He lies to us. He's embellishing how much they
[01:49:32] spend to make the tribal council set. Maybe he doesn't know. You think Jeff is so in the finances
[01:49:38] of the show? No, because they hand him the invoice and he signs off on it. He's like,
[01:49:42] it's all on my credit card. It's on my personal. That's how I was being funded. Then we probably
[01:49:48] should stop doing new tribal council sets. That's why I didn't see any of that money.
[01:49:54] They could do a fan favorite award. Yeah, that's maybe they talked Sia into paying for these tribal
[01:49:59] councils every season instead of giving the money to the. Rob, did you possibly prognosticate
[01:50:03] what 47 and 48 are going to look like where it's like, well, all the money dried up.
[01:50:07] Hope you like looking at these walls because we'll be looking at it for the next six months.
[01:50:11] Okay. All right. So let's not, I don't want to rank tribal council sets.
[01:50:16] Well, actually I do remember now the one thing my father-in-law said to me about 46
[01:50:20] doesn't like the tribal council set. Yeah, that was his take on the season. So he noticed it. I
[01:50:25] mean, 46 was very noticeable. It was very, it was very noticeable, but what are we even doing?
[01:50:30] Why did we have like this Asian tribal council set? Yeah, we were in Fiji. It kind of insulting
[01:50:37] in some way. Yeah. It's like, we can't, we're not going to forget that we were in Fiji. So look,
[01:50:43] Rob, it's a great take. You are so right. I think I'm going to declare you the winner of the hot
[01:50:47] take. We did it and it's done. And it was a hot take. It was real. It was good. I felt the fire.
[01:50:55] So good. So good, Rob. Yeah. All right. Well, let me backfired. Andrew says, now I want to hear
[01:51:00] Rob ranking the tribal council sets even more. I mean, I think we got the, like, this was the,
[01:51:05] the hot Amber, like this was the source of the flame. JP looked for one time. And that is where
[01:51:11] they make the fires. Yes, exactly. That's very true. Uh, all right. Of, um, tribal council sets.
[01:51:20] A bracket can make anything fun. I wouldn't be opposed to that. No, Mike,
[01:51:26] have you not seen how we feel about tribal council? Well, that'd be the point. Uh, all right. So
[01:51:32] there has been some talks about some sort of like archetype sorter of compare the archetype,
[01:51:39] et cetera, et cetera. I have a suggestion of one, but we can also, I think, brainstorm as to like,
[01:51:43] how we would want to do something where it's basically creating like blank is the new blank.
[01:51:49] I feel like we talk about this all the time with the new era of like comparing someone from a
[01:51:57] newer season to, oh, this reminds me of an older Q is the new coach is a great example of what we
[01:52:03] got in the discourse. Is there something there where we can do these cross comparisons? Every
[01:52:09] single young, pretty woman is a new poverty. Exactly. Let's just do their jobs for them.
[01:52:13] What this podcast is great. And I'm not talking about the one we're doing right now. Yeah. Oh,
[01:52:19] that's true too. Blank is the new blank. I was a new blank. Um, I get it. It's not that I don't
[01:52:25] get it. I just, I'm also like, what are we doing? Like, what is that podcast? Yeah. For a lot of
[01:52:29] this, like what was this podcast? And we've still been here for almost two hours. It's being
[01:52:32] ridiculous. So like the ideas can be podcast, but I feel like this is very, so what do we would be
[01:52:37] given prompts? Like who was the new blank? And then we'd give the first blank is it match game.
[01:52:43] Could be match game. Oh, can we do match game? We can do match. I mean, that would be that I
[01:52:48] would love to do that game again. I mean, that would, that would be another, uh, booking,
[01:52:53] you know, uh, so you know how everyone's like, is he on board for a survivor match game? Yes.
[01:53:01] Okay. When did you do match game though? Cause you know how they say all movies are,
[01:53:04] I did that's our ideas too. Yes. Okay. Well I did match survivor match game. I believe it was in
[01:53:11] October of 2017. I did that at the Hollywood improv. Oh yeah. If you want to get like a,
[01:53:18] a temperature of who the guests were. I think if I'm looking at the picture right now, it is,
[01:53:22] uh, Otis, Nick, my Rano, Aubrey, Hannah, David Wright, and Zeke. Yeah. Is there a video of that
[01:53:31] or is it audio? There is a video. There's a video. Okay. Don't worry. October 5th, 2017.
[01:53:37] This was all like, it's so weird that we're bringing all these ideas around again. Again,
[01:53:41] it does make me feel bad for like Hollywood with it. Like we'll come up with new ideas. It is
[01:53:47] obviously hard because these are all old ideas and they're all from like the golden age of when I was
[01:53:50] a listener, but not a podcaster. And I'm just feeling so nostalgic. Um, we also did a match
[01:53:55] game on Renap, which I believe Shannon was on and also had the game pretty. I did a video
[01:54:01] about the time Shannon hacked the match game and what, just by saying penis every time.
[01:54:09] Even hopped aboard much like said penis. Nope, nope, nope. Anyway. Yes. And so, uh, I want to
[01:54:17] say that was like, I feel like that that was during COVID. I think that was like 2020. Yeah.
[01:54:24] It was a February 27th, 2021. All right. Would we rather do survivor match game or
[01:54:31] survivor family feud? I do think there's a, there's room for both. I think it would be
[01:54:37] a booking issue more so than anything. Oh, you think it'd be really hard to get survivor players
[01:54:43] to come on a podcast? Yeah, no, I know. I think it would be getting what like five other survivor
[01:54:48] players. We want to use the same people. Here's the question also, how many young people are going
[01:54:53] to know what Matt Brandon Donnelly will know what it is. Zach Wurtenberger will know what it is.
[01:54:59] If they know snatch game, they know. I guess if they know. Oh, Shannon, I've got so much to teach
[01:55:05] you about the world. And you want to tell me about mothers, Rob clocks, Bob, the drag queen from the
[01:55:12] very first walk in purse first on mothers from someone who thinks he or he's in his mother in the
[01:55:19] year of our Lord. I mean, Jeff, 2024. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I would love to do a survivor match game.
[01:55:26] Yeah. Yeah. I think survivor match game could be a survivor themes match game, especially right.
[01:55:29] Like Jeff probes is so spicy that well, it has to be. Well, maybe like you and I'd be the host. Mike
[01:55:37] and Shannon are the contestants and the survivor panel are the celebrities. I love that idea. Yeah.
[01:55:44] Yeah. Fun. Do it. Three. That'd be really fun. I think that'd be really good. What about,
[01:55:52] what about some other like game shows, like a pyramid or a password? Is there anything there?
[01:55:56] Survivor wood squares would be very fun. Also survivors. Again, that would be a booking
[01:56:02] nightmare. I'm matching in heaven. Sam just put in his resignation for survivor wood square.
[01:56:08] But I do think match game, I think would be very easy to do. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. I think so as
[01:56:14] well. That's it. That's the thing is that easy to do is, is the method we want to do this because
[01:56:19] also big brothers coming down the pike as well. Obviously we have this daily series happening,
[01:56:22] so I wouldn't say I have nothing else on, but yeah. Yeah. But I would say something that like
[01:56:26] requires obviously a quick turnaround would be ideal in terms of these ideas. Definitely. I mean,
[01:56:31] definitely tell the audience that we're trying to make it as easy on ourselves as possible. And now
[01:56:35] everyone knows. So yeah. Okay. Could we do, could we do something around like survive?
[01:56:41] Someone creates like a survivor connections puzzle. Is that, is that something we should
[01:56:46] solve on air? Or does that seem not something that we should post on social media and I want to do
[01:56:56] not a podcast. Yeah. I've seen actually a couple of survivor connections and they have
[01:57:01] definitely arranged it to being quite difficult. So I think there's,
[01:57:04] there's definitely stuff there. People want to keep on posting them. Okay. All right.
[01:57:10] Anything else before we start to get to our vote? I don't, the only other thing that was suggested
[01:57:18] that I think just based on the timbre of our conversation would probably be a sort of reflected
[01:57:24] off to something else, but I thought I would put it out. There is another grace leader idea.
[01:57:28] She is in the process, I believe of planning a survivor themed session of dungeons and dragons
[01:57:34] featuring survivor alumni. I am a fan of it. I know that Rob, you have had very recent experience
[01:57:41] with it. I know Shannon has not again from the, the, the, the temperature I'm taking.
[01:57:46] I don't know if this is an idea for this podcast, but I think it's like our official blessing to
[01:57:51] have that happen differently. Yeah. I think that should definitely happen, but I don't think that
[01:57:56] that is summer of survivor. Yeah, exactly. I think we have found a very distinct tone as to
[01:58:01] what we want to do on summer of survivor. Okay. All right. The crazy one, the crazy time. So let's
[01:58:06] rehash what we have potentially on our short list and then we have to vote on what's going to be
[01:58:13] next week. Yeah. I mean, I think we still have a top two right now, so we're going to have to
[01:58:19] Wendell and Dom this thing and leave with a Victor by the end of this. Who's Laurel?
[01:58:23] We're all, we're all Laurel. You're the law. I'm the or and Shannon's the.
[01:58:27] Johnny. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. So what is our list at the moment? This is where we turn
[01:58:36] back to Sam with his mythical Excel document. All right. Sam, are you coming into the podcast?
[01:58:42] Okay. All right. He's asking. What's that? Yeah. Sam, just come on. What are we waiting for?
[01:58:47] Do you want me to? Sam make it. Okay. Okay. I'll tell you what I don't want. The
[01:58:52] 30 seconds of dead air. Okay. Yes, Sam. Now we throw you under the bus. How do you feel about
[01:59:00] it? Great. So I wrote down as many of the ideas as I could keep up with. I wrote down as many of
[01:59:06] the scores as you attempted to give me because this was very well put together and organized.
[01:59:11] I think I was chasing some points. Yeah. Well, I know you were busy with getting Melissa on the
[01:59:14] call and looking at the big game. Which was absolutely worth it by the way. Absolutely
[01:59:19] do you have a record of what we selected? Yeah. Melissa, do you want Sam's job?
[01:59:24] It's also Melissa's birthday next. I will say in my neck of the woods, it's Melissa's birthday. So
[01:59:28] happy birthday to Melissa. Happy birthday to Melissa. Is it really? No. Sam, if there's anything
[01:59:35] we didn't get points to let us know. We'll give you the points now. We're still here.
[01:59:39] Okay. Matt Rushmore. I'll be giving that next week yet. I would give that a two.
[01:59:45] Two. Okay. Two. And Shannon, I added you as a one on that one.
[01:59:50] Okay. Then one. Sorry. Did I change my mind already? One. Two. No, two. Three. Three.
[01:59:57] That's a booking thing. We have to book. Survival wood squares.
[02:00:02] What? We're not doing survival wood squares. Yeah. I don't think we can do a combination.
[02:00:10] Can I pitch underwood squares? Shannon, are you back in? Underwood squares. Yeah. Where we all
[02:00:16] wear different socks and we talk about them on the podcast. Nope. What? All right. Claim to fame.
[02:00:25] Holly Hoffman wood squares. Would that be better? Oh, there we go. Yeah. We have to learn not to
[02:00:30] quit halfway through. You know what we take the Chris Underwood socks, fill them with rocks,
[02:00:35] put them in Dan's alligator shoes. May he rest in peace. Put them at the bottom of the river.
[02:00:40] An absolute sentence. That was that almost more than when Rob said he didn't feel like Whitney
[02:00:45] Houston would wash the brand still. I still think you win with tribal council sets are like nipple
[02:00:50] tattoos. They are. Mm hmm. So out of context, you know what to do. It's not out of context.
[02:00:59] It makes sense. We need somebody to volunteer to do the claiming. All right. Casting traitors.
[02:01:08] Big brother. Milk. Zero. OK. The part was interesting, but we can maybe do that after
[02:01:14] moms versus mothers. Survivor test faster. That's a way. Is Rob saying that we're going to do moms
[02:01:21] versus mothers and then classify some as most? Mm hmm. Is that I don't think that's what I said.
[02:01:29] It wasn't. I think that's what you said. Based on what I think you said.
[02:01:36] OK, Sam Moore, not your name anymore. It's a survivor taskmaster.
[02:01:43] I get what you're doing during the podcast. You think we did that? You did not. Of course,
[02:01:48] you can check the tape. You do not give scores. No, we didn't. We did. I 100 percent believe,
[02:01:57] Sam, that we are like, oh, I thought it was in a number of every single one.
[02:02:03] You did not. No, we definitely did. Speaking of that, let's bring Kim Spradlin a new idea to
[02:02:08] compare new era characters to animals. Mm hmm. Oh, actually, Omer could do that. He did that for
[02:02:14] a bunch of seasons on the B&B. He could do it with other survivor contestants. Kim and Omer
[02:02:17] compete in some capacity to win the right to do that. Mm hmm. We're probably not doing anything.
[02:02:22] That's fine. OK. All right. All right. I give up. I can't even get scores now. It's Melissa's
[02:02:26] next week. Yeah, I saw a joke. All right. All right. So you got to talk into the microphone.
[02:02:36] OK, I'm sorry for trying to read and we just want you to talk into the microphone. It's a podcast.
[02:02:42] Oh, here's a good idea. Here's another one. Yes. Rob bullies his employee.
[02:02:46] Life on air. That's that's a rare thing. But I just want everybody to talk into a microphone.
[02:02:53] It doesn't do us any good if we can't hear him.
[02:02:58] The new era Wandoff got nine points. I didn't say talk into the microphone or you get a wedgie.
[02:03:05] It was implied the new era Wandoff got nine points. Mm hmm. Survivor Bingo, nine points.
[02:03:13] Match game. Wait, Survivor Bingo. Well, that was whatever the hell's with the bingo ball thing.
[02:03:18] That was not what that is. Not what that was. Yeah. So that was the best moment from each
[02:03:24] survivor season. Yes. How did that morph to that? That's what we were asking. Bingo balls.
[02:03:33] We can't do 46 seasons. Oh, it's a survival lingo.
[02:03:37] If I think I don't think it's fair if Rob has the bingo machine. I also like one.
[02:03:42] I also am not shipping this. No, we're not doing dueling.
[02:03:45] That doesn't make any sense. I'll reimburse you if you buy a bingo machine. I will go out and buy
[02:03:51] a bingo machine. OK. How about there's bingo in Australia on the cruise, I heard. Yeah,
[02:03:58] it probably is because in America, which is a normal country like you guys. Well,
[02:04:01] we'll ask you to hook you up from the train. We are not a normal country.
[02:04:05] Yes. Well, same. I take that back. Please. It's a look back. It was nine points. Yeah.
[02:04:13] Survivor mothers versus mom is nine. Family feud is nine points. That's one, two, three,
[02:04:19] four or five. Yeah. But some of these things we cannot do next week. So yeah, the one the
[02:04:24] wand off cannot be done. And some of these things are going to require booking. OK. Yep. Mm hmm.
[02:04:31] That was going to be a family feud. Couldn't be that. I think right now the two that we are in
[02:04:34] between is mothers versus moms and bingo ball, a.k.a. picking the most the best moment or the
[02:04:42] one moment from each season. And I would say let's find out what night Bryce can be here
[02:04:47] for the it's a look. I wanted to. I mean, you're welcome to join us for
[02:04:52] moms versus mothers also. Yeah, that's the thing is, then are we losing Bryce from moms versus
[02:04:57] mothers? Well, look, Bryce has first dibs if he can't make it. We'll we'll find another guest.
[02:05:04] OK, but it's a look we need Bryce. But we're not doing moms versus mothers as a bracket. No,
[02:05:12] because we have to actually cast the season for we have to we have to fill it out first.
[02:05:16] If you want to come up with a list ahead of time, that's fine. But then half the arguments will be
[02:05:21] why is this thing on the bracket in the first place? OK, I think moms versus mothers is a
[02:05:26] vague concept. You should get your paper. You should write down our vote. Oh, yeah. OK.
[02:05:33] Good. I brought paper with us. I actually thought I might have to write things down.
[02:05:36] We'll have to write notes. I think this is a noteless podcast. That's not the new era
[02:05:42] think tank. But that was eight points in like celebrity. And I think that's another one that
[02:05:46] requires time for people to send celebrity brand deals, probably an easy one. Yeah,
[02:05:51] not next week, though. I think that's something we would want to do in the first month.
[02:05:55] I'd love to do a band shield like before Big Brother. I think ideally would be when to do it.
[02:06:00] Yeah, please. Sarah says make sure to put it in the tribal vote bucket or whatever.
[02:06:04] Obviously, refer to their maybe Mike does know more about surviving. OK.
[02:06:13] All right. So really, it's it's come down to its moms or it's what I go.
[02:06:20] Mom's home and go. Mom's are bingo. Oh, that's a survivor theme. Mm hmm.
[02:06:25] OK. All right. Who wants to go first? Oh, it's not like at the same time because it's
[02:06:32] a viable. Mm hmm. We do a voting confessional. Yes, sure. OK, Mike, you go.
[02:06:41] All right. So I step up and I pull an Alicia and I accidentally write with the cap on first
[02:06:46] and then I write it down. And I'd say this idea is so good. I think I'd call it a free
[02:06:55] space. Oh, Mike, I voted for bingo if you're listening to the podcast. OK, Shannon.
[02:07:04] One day you're a mom. The next you're a mother. You're right.
[02:07:11] That's what I wrote down. The June 3rd is the day of moms versus mothers.
[02:07:17] No, I made it on January 3rd next year because I don't think I'll need that day.
[02:07:22] Wait, one day you're a mom. Next day, you're a mother.
[02:07:24] We decide if you're both possibly in bracket.
[02:07:26] But where do you think you're going to be on January 3rd?
[02:07:30] At a time where I don't need to write something in my planner, hopefully relaxing.
[02:07:34] That's why I use January 3rd. OK. All right. And now.
[02:07:38] Rob, you're the swing. It's Amazon all over again.
[02:07:41] Rob, you're the swing. It's Amazon all over again.
[02:07:43] OK. Oh, next week I.
[02:07:53] Will know. How I met.
[02:07:57] Yeah. There we go.
[02:08:00] Feels good.
[02:08:03] Moms versus mothers next week.
[02:08:05] All right. You wrote mom like famous mother, Sierra Easton.
[02:08:09] Yeah, exactly. You should have wrote Laura versus mom.
[02:08:16] Mom also is Anna Faris, a Survivor fan.
[02:08:19] I don't believe so. Allison Janney.
[02:08:20] I think only only Faris. All right.
[02:08:25] So it's not fair. Next week, Survivor mothers versus moms.
[02:08:29] We will be casting, not simulating a season of Survivor that takes famous moms and puts
[02:08:36] them against famous Survivor castaways that I think the community would call mother.
[02:08:41] So are we going to get listeners submitted people for moms versus mothers?
[02:08:45] And then we're going to submit the moms.
[02:08:48] I think there's actually one criteria for being a mom that we can probably work out.
[02:08:52] I think look that you give us. We are getting and look, we're going to celebrate women next week.
[02:08:59] OK, good as we should, as we should.
[02:09:02] And so I think that listeners should write right in with women you want to see.
[02:09:08] And we're going to have to make some calls here.
[02:09:11] So should I update Robbins website dot com slash
[02:09:14] summer of Survivor to now include like nominate your favorite mother and nominate your mother?
[02:09:21] Hey, Jeff finally gets his wish come true, right?
[02:09:24] Go tell your mom to apply for Survivor.
[02:09:27] This is the way to do it.
[02:09:28] Yeah, that's a good point.
[02:09:31] Mike, I forgot all of it.
[02:09:33] I forgot all about that.
[02:09:34] He was all season.
[02:09:35] He was really pushing hard for it.
[02:09:38] I think that they'd like to really see that should have been a clue that Maria wasn't going to win
[02:09:41] because I think they'd really like to see a mom win.
[02:09:43] And so it's like, hey, we got to get one out here.
[02:09:47] Ryan, I assure you, I will not be here for that.
[02:09:51] OK, I know who's ready.
[02:09:54] Scarcle is.
[02:09:56] Oh, yes.
[02:09:57] OK, all the tingles.
[02:09:58] Yeah.
[02:09:59] OK, have you been doing that?
[02:10:01] Mike, or has Sam been doing that?
[02:10:02] We've all been doing it.
[02:10:04] Oh, I don't have the capacity to do that.
[02:10:08] I thought the whole time I said, oh, Sam, like Sam put that.
[02:10:10] I thought the whole time Sam was busy attempting to score you people when you don't give scores.
[02:10:16] At one point I said, oh, thanks.
[02:10:17] I'm like, great minds, because I said at the same time, but Mike's been doing it.
[02:10:20] And Rob can do it too.
[02:10:21] Everyone else has the capabilities with the chat on the screen except for me.
[02:10:24] Well, that's why you need we need to you're addicted to the chat.
[02:10:27] We need to have you keep your distance.
[02:10:29] This is your nicotine patch of the chat.
[02:10:31] Great.
[02:10:31] I love the chat.
[02:10:32] That was so funny.
[02:10:33] Can I go now?
[02:10:33] I'm Jesus.
[02:10:34] You may.
[02:10:35] Thank you, Sam.
[02:10:36] Thank you.
[02:10:36] I'm encouraging.
[02:10:37] So for anybody out there who's watching this podcast with their survivor mom.
[02:10:52] Jeff's wishes are coming true.
[02:10:55] Yes.
[02:10:57] And then look, maybe the week after is get the bingo machine ready.
[02:11:01] Listen, this and this is the thing as well, is that right now we have a list of ideas.
[02:11:04] Yeah, but there's plenty of room to fill more, and especially in response to you are all hearing,
[02:11:09] obviously, some criteria that we had for this type of podcast.
[02:11:12] And next week, we're going to get more ideas to same bat time.
[02:11:17] More ideas.
[02:11:18] Yep.
[02:11:20] Oh, my God.
[02:11:21] You don't want more ideas.
[02:11:23] I feel like I need to deal with the ideas that we have here.
[02:11:26] Yeah.
[02:11:28] OK, I will get more ideas.
[02:11:29] Every week we'll get more ideas.
[02:11:30] Yeah.
[02:11:31] And then we'll just have too many ideas.
[02:11:32] OK, all right.
[02:11:33] Well, there's a lot of good contenders, though.
[02:11:36] So and champions.
[02:11:37] Yep.
[02:11:37] All right.
[02:11:38] Shannon, what's coming up for you?
[02:11:40] Rob, nothing.
[02:11:41] You know, I do this podcast with you guys.
[02:11:44] A bingo game.
[02:11:46] I'm going to go get that bingo machine.
[02:11:47] Yeah, you better make it worth it, though, and host as many bingo parties as you can.
[02:11:52] Why are we playing so much bingo?
[02:11:53] Have a machine, OK?
[02:11:55] Machine is not the right word.
[02:11:58] No.
[02:11:58] Is it?
[02:12:00] It's a bingo machine.
[02:12:03] The simple machines are pulleys, levers, etc.
[02:12:06] I think it's part of that.
[02:12:07] OK, yeah, I get it.
[02:12:09] What I think I'm going to do Mike's wishlist podcast.
[02:12:13] Yeah.
[02:12:13] OK.
[02:12:15] Soon doing this.
[02:12:16] OK.
[02:12:17] If you still haven't listened to a very similar podcast to this,
[02:12:21] to recap the Survival 46 finale, it wasn't like this,
[02:12:24] but we got into a lot of the strategy.
[02:12:26] So I 46 is still ongoing, so it's still super relevant.
[02:12:29] And that was Dino.
[02:12:30] And that's it.
[02:12:31] Follow me on Shannon Gates.
[02:12:33] That's all I got.
[02:12:34] OK, all right.
[02:12:35] Great job, Shannon.
[02:12:36] Excited for a summer of Survivor with you.
[02:12:39] OK, thank you for saying that.
[02:12:41] All right.
[02:12:41] I'm really excited.
[02:12:42] This is this is effing ridiculous.
[02:12:45] If this podcast of the past two hours have not proven that I think we are in for
[02:12:49] a very fun time and hopefully we'll be receiving more
[02:12:53] ideas over the course of this, obviously submissions within the ideas as well.
[02:12:57] Maybe we'll pull a Melissa and bring on more random people over the course of these podcasts.
[02:13:02] But this was such a good time.
[02:13:04] I'm already so, so excited for what we get to do this season.
[02:13:07] Yeah.
[02:13:08] OK.
[02:13:08] All right.
[02:13:09] Mike has a whole series of podcasts kicking off on Friday.
[02:13:14] So be on the lookout for that.
[02:13:16] The Survivor 50 wish list.
[02:13:18] I will join Mike to talk about Survivor Borneo.
[02:13:20] Very excited for that on Friday.
[02:13:22] And Sam already let us know it can only be 50 minutes.
[02:13:27] Just like three people.
[02:13:29] We got it.
[02:13:30] OK.
[02:13:31] And as we know, Sam does a fantastic job regimenting the chaos that is our AJP.
[02:13:36] So just screaming into the void forever.
[02:13:40] All right.
[02:13:40] But I'm very excited for that.
[02:13:42] I think, again, if people are looking for their like Survivor 50 scratches, it just to be scratched.
[02:13:47] I think we'll be doing a lot of scratching over the next couple of months there.
[02:13:50] OK, why would you say it like that?
[02:13:53] Robbinswebsite.com slash summer of Survivor, all lowercase.
[02:13:57] OK, Robbinswebsite.com slash summer of Survivor for sending in all of your ideas.
[02:14:03] We got Survivor Know-It-Alls on Thursday.
[02:14:06] Whoa.
[02:14:07] On Thursday, Stephen Fishback will join me to give his thoughts on the finale.
[02:14:13] So excited to catch up with Stephen.
[02:14:16] Also, if you're interested in Australian Survivor versus US Survivor, one week ago,
[02:14:23] Mike, Shannon and I got together and we talked about some of the prospects
[02:14:27] about Australian Survivor versus US.
[02:14:32] And it was like, I'd say a skosh less unhinged.
[02:14:35] Like there were the hinges were slightly more on the door, but it was still in the ballpark.
[02:14:39] I'd imagine.
[02:14:39] In the ballpark.
[02:14:40] OK.
[02:14:40] Oh, we had a couple of listener submitted ideas real quick to give you from the chat.
[02:14:46] OK, let's see.
[02:14:49] We got one.
[02:14:51] OK, this is one from Hexistential said, invite Boston Rob on to see how many marshmallows
[02:14:58] he can fit in his mouth.
[02:15:00] Oh, good.
[02:15:00] I always want to see a Survivor legend die on air during a podcast.
[02:15:04] Wait, Rob.
[02:15:05] Yeah.
[02:15:10] I didn't even need to ask for it.
[02:15:12] It was great.
[02:15:13] Can you fit one marshmallow in for every day of Survivor he's played?
[02:15:23] All right.
[02:15:23] And then also Gregory Washington said, how about a Survivor style roast with Q on that
[02:15:29] podcast?
[02:15:29] You know, the Tom Brady roast was a big deal a couple of weeks ago.
[02:15:33] And I have been trying to think about like, boy, who is the person, the Survivor that
[02:15:38] could stand up to a roast from the Survivor community?
[02:15:42] Q might be him.
[02:15:45] I mean, yes, but then this would be a guy that wouldn't wait for his turn on the dice.
[02:15:49] He would just immediately respond.
[02:15:51] Here we go right into it.
[02:15:53] Also, is the Q roast not just Twitter this week as well?
[02:15:56] Like, do we need more heat on the Survivor 46 plays?
[02:16:00] Maybe the Survivor 46 plays take us more vacation.
[02:16:01] He would love it.
[02:16:02] He would love it.
[02:16:04] He would.
[02:16:05] They are all loving all of this.
[02:16:06] I just think that they could maybe just take a couple of days away from everything.
[02:16:11] Yep.
[02:16:11] That would be my recommendation.
[02:16:12] All right.
[02:16:13] This was an amazing chat tonight also.
[02:16:16] Thanks again to Melissa who popped on, but I really felt like that.
[02:16:19] We love you Melissa.
[02:16:20] Happy early birthday.
[02:16:21] The people that were here with us in the live chat were definitely feeling the energy we
[02:16:26] were putting out there and giving it back to us.
[02:16:28] So those are the most fun type of podcast.
[02:16:30] So if you enjoyed this podcast, you were a big reason why this was so fun.
[02:16:35] That's the thing is that the energy, I think, sort of circulates amongst us and the chat.
[02:16:40] The other thing is that I really love the fact that people sent in so many ideas.
[02:16:44] I do feel bad for the people that check this podcast out and realize that a lot of the
[02:16:48] ideas they suggested might not be in line necessarily with that.
[02:16:52] But hey, maybe that then informs not only the tone of this podcast, but those types
[02:16:56] of ideas to come.
[02:16:56] Yeah, because the chat could have ruined it.
[02:16:58] The chat could have been like, uh, buzzkill.
[02:17:00] This isn't what we want.
[02:17:02] Yeah, no.
[02:17:03] But it's fine.
[02:17:04] Like, okay.
[02:17:05] Rob now is like a great energy from the chat.
[02:17:07] An hour ago, he said to me, these listeners think that you are talking to yourself and
[02:17:11] having a mental...
[02:17:12] There's a difference between great energy from the chat and then just reciting the chat
[02:17:20] without any attribution of that.
[02:17:22] These are people in the comments that are saying these things.
[02:17:26] I think people got it.
[02:17:28] Do you think?
[02:17:29] We'll see.
[02:17:30] Only time will tell.
[02:17:31] We've got all of Jordan Kalish's birthday to find out.
[02:17:34] Yeah.
[02:17:35] I mean, podcast listeners, let us know if at any point during the podcast you thought
[02:17:39] that Shannon was having a mental break from reality.
[02:17:42] Oh, that's so mean.
[02:17:44] Oh, tell us if you think Shannon is having a mental break.
[02:17:47] Now we're listening to criticism.
[02:17:48] And then we're like, what about this part?
[02:17:51] I'm like, oh no, she wasn't reading from the chat during that part.
[02:17:54] This does feel like a bad match game prompt of like, yes, we're filling the blank.
[02:17:58] That is so...
[02:17:59] Like, yeah, let us know.
[02:18:01] And if you have any other criticisms or mean things to say, just send them my way.
[02:18:05] OK, that's fine.
[02:18:05] Listen, I took the brunt of that this podcast.
[02:18:07] So I'm fine to pass it off.
[02:18:09] Thank you so much, everybody.
[02:18:10] We'll see you next Wednesday for another night of Summer of Survivor.
[02:18:14] Take care.
[02:18:14] Have a good one.
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