RHAP B&B AND Survivor Global S47 Ep 10 Crossover

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Mike and the Ana, yeah they're playing some games. You better pray to your MAMA that they're not super lame. And if that all sounds cool I can tell you the name. It's the R-H-A-P-B-M-B.

[00:00:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Mike and Leanna gotta play in some games

[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You let up right to your mama that they're not too awesome

[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you the name

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the R-H-A-P-M

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You can stay fine

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Hi everybody and welcome back to the R-H-A-P B&B

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_08]: for week 10 of Survivor 47

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_08]: and these are jazz hands

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_08]: we're doing our own touchdown dance

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_08]: as we bid adieu to the man who did so just one week ago

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_08]: we're talking about a pretty big episode

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_08]: that not only took out Gabe

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_08]: but simultaneously eight shots in the dark from the game too

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and much like Teenie's hole-filled container

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I look at the B&B and say, Leanna Boris

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_08]: that's my bag, baby

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I was gonna say, that's on fire

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_05]: but not in the Jeff Probst podcast way

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_05]: but you know, in a like

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_05]: this is a chaos sort of dumpster fire sort of thing

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_05]: but anyway, what a great start to the podcast

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_05]: yes, this episode was super interesting to me

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_05]: because I also think

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_05]: and we're definitely gonna get into it

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_05]: that this sort of seems to lay the path

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_05]: for how I think the rest of the season

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_05]: is gonna play out

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_05]: so I'm really looking forward to talking about that

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_05]: especially with our guests this week

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_08]: yes, because while it is a B&B

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_08]: we've got a little bit of flavor mixed in

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_08]: some cream to our cookies, if you will

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_08]: and the most delectable sounding cake on earth

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_08]: the Glow Beam Bull

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_08]: as this person coined it last year

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_08]: has re-emerged to talk about this episode

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_08]: what is this?

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_08]: a crossover episode

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm so thrilled to welcome in the person

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_08]: who knows a thing or two about the dangers

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_08]: of throwing away your shot

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_08]: it is the one, the only, Shannon Gus

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_02]: yes, I love that you remembered Glow Beam Bull

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_02]: because I really think it works

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_02]: like I think it's the kind of thing

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_02]: that time has made only better

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and the collab is good

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_02]: the collab B&B Bull

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_02]: the collab-able

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: no

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: well, that'll sound better next time

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_02]: see, that's the thing

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_02]: the collab B&B will sound better next time

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and that

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Mike, don't look at me like that

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: are you having a stroke?

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_02]: don't, you don't look at me like that

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_02]: you do this all the time

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm the crazy one for saying collab-able

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_08]: oh yeah, listen

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_08]: this glass house is in smithereens around me

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_02]: throw those stones

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: when Mike Bloom is looking at you

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: like you're crazy

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: you know that you need to pare it back

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and that is the, that's the metric

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_02]: but I'm really excited to talk about this episode

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: really excited to talk about it

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: with the two of you

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I was stressing

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_02]: as a Genevieve fan

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: who went to bat for her last week

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: not saying it went well

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_02]: but I was like

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_02]: if she goes next week

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_02]: she will humiliate me

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and it didn't go well

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_02]: but I'm really, really glad

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that she survived

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and I know I'm invested

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_02]: when I'm like

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_02]: my heart is racing

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_08]: so that's good

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, to be fair

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I think any stress

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_08]: that you and the collective fandom

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_08]: might have felt

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_08]: it was very palpable

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_08]: on Genevieve's face

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_08]: as well

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I think she has low-key

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_08]: emerged for me as like

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_08]: honestly one of the bigger characters

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_08]: of the season

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_08]: whether it is this

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_08]: as Annie McCoy

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_08]: and like the silent assassin

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_08]: mindset

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_08]: where she even talks

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_08]: at the beginning of this episode

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_08]: about like

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah, I don't like to be

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_08]: emotionally connected

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_08]: because it doesn't allow me

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_08]: to make these big

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_08]: eviscerating moves

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_08]: that I want to

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_08]: but just to see her face

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_08]: basically turn into silly putty

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_08]: and go through

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_08]: all the emotions

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_08]: at once

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_08]: from like

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_08]: the

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_08]: it's almost like

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_08]: she worked her way

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_08]: backwards

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_08]: through the five stages

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_08]: of grief

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_08]: where she kind of

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_08]: started an acceptance

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_08]: going into tribal council

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_08]: and then she votes

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_08]: and she's like

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_08]: either

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_08]: you have an idol

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_08]: and I'm screwed

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_08]: or you don't

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_08]: and I'm not screwed

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_08]: this sucks

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_08]: bye

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_08]: to, you know

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_08]: her immediately

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_08]: emitting defeat

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_08]: as soon as like

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_08]: the second vote

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_08]: comes in for her

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_08]: to her just

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_08]: I would say

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_08]: almost like

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_08]: turtle-like

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_08]: awestruck look

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_08]: and she says

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_08]: I can't believe it

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_08]: with like

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_08]: those big glasses

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_08]: as well

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_08]: just absolutely incredible

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_08]: one of the many reasons

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_08]: why I'm happy

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_08]: that Genevieve

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_08]: survived the vote

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_05]: the magnified glasses

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_05]: certainly also helped

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_05]: to magnify the expression

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_05]: so I think that

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_05]: that's a big part of it

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_05]: and for me

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_05]: the funniest thing

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_05]: is if you had asked me

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_05]: in the first couple weeks

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_05]: of the season

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_05]: if you told me

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_05]: that Genevieve

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_05]: is going to be

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_05]: this really big character

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I never would have

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_05]: believed you

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_05]: right

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_05]: this is someone

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_05]: who was so purple

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_05]: throughout the first few episodes

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_05]: and now has really emerged

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_05]: as such a

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_05]: strategic force

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_05]: and a main player

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_05]: in the discussion

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_05]: in the merge

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and I feel like

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_02]: if she was going backwards

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_02]: through the five stages of grief

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_02]: she missed bargaining

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_02]: and Survivor is all bargaining

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and no they already did bargaining

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_08]: that was earlier in the episode

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_02]: well they

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and that was

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and we'll talk about

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot about

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: the Rice negotiation

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_02]: which actually turned into

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_02]: a negotiation

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: because as Stephen said

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: on Know It Alls

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_02]: the auction is not an auction

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_02]: this negotiation

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_02]: is not a negotiation

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and Kyle

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: thankfully made it one

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_02]: but

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I will say that

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree with Liana

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like for me

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: the whole season

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and maybe this is

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: you know

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_02]: wrong for the new era

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_02]: but I can see how it's laid out here

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's the

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and I criticize the lack of bargaining

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_02]: because I feel like

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_02]: for nine people

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_02]: in this episode

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_02]: five

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_02]: made a really bad move

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_02]: that did not benefit them

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and four

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_02]: are in a great spot

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: where it was hugely beneficial

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: for them

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm like

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_02]: well if there were five

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_02]: where I feel like

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: they didn't go well

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and there were four

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: where it did

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_02]: if only the five

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_02]: could have made something happen

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and that's the bargaining

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and we'll talk about it

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: but

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like this was a big

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: like full convoy

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: for the rest of the season

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_08]: am I out on a limb here

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_08]: when I say

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_08]: this is my favorite episode

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_08]: of the season

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_08]: so far

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I really liked

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Genevieve's other big move

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_08]: which was the

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_08]: the Keyshawn boot

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_08]: but

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_08]: it feels to me

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_08]: like again

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_08]: between some of the stuff

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_08]: that was happening

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_08]: like there was

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_08]: a lot of strategy

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_08]: that was happening

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_08]: but there was some

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_08]: personality involved

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_08]: as well

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_08]: of course

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_08]: the minute long

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_08]: montage

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_08]: game long montage

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_08]: it seems

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_08]: of Sue

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_08]: digging in

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_08]: on Kyle

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_08]: you know

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_08]: all the stuff

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_08]: going on

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_08]: with the negotiation

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_08]: that we'll talk about

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_08]: later on

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I just feel like

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_08]: and maybe

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_08]: to your point

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Shannon

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_08]: if this ends up

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_08]: becoming like

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_08]: the most important

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_08]: vote of the season

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_08]: it will be seen

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_08]: even more so

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_08]: as a big episode

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_02]: the season

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_02]: for me

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_02]: is very consistent

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: like last season

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_02]: was like

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_02]: very low lows

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and like

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: extremely high highs

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that got into

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_02]: probably my second

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: favorite new era season

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_02]: whereas this

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_02]: it's probably

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_02]: like four of seven

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: and like

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_02]: every episode

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_02]: is like

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_02]: enjoyable

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_02]: but none

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: to me

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: are like

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_02]: exactly

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_02]: it was fated

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_08]: to be there

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_08]: that's a lot

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_08]: that's a lot

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_08]: let me count

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_08]: on my hands

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I think

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_02]: that every episode

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_02]: to me

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_02]: has been

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_02]: enjoyable

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_02]: consistent

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_02]: one has been

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: particularly

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: terrible

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_02]: but I also

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: look back

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: and think

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_02]: any episode

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_02]: stands out

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_02]: as much

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_02]: as like

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_02]: the great

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: new era

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: episodes

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: for me

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and that's

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_02]: why

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_02]: this season

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm like

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm being critical

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: that's

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I've enjoyed

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_02]: the whole thing

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: like right in

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_02]: the middle

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_02]: for me

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I think

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_05]: the only episode

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_05]: that I can think

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_05]: of that

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_05]: stands out to me

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_05]: as a singular

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_05]: episode

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_05]: because I do agree

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_05]: with you Shannon

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's been

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_05]: overall consistent

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_05]: and I can't like

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_05]: pinpoint this

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_05]: specific episode

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_05]: except for Rome's boot

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's the only

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_05]: one that really stands

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_05]: out to me

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_05]: because of the editors

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_05]: just burying him

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_05]: him getting to sit

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_05]: in the chair

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Sam going

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_05]: you know

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_05]: oh good for him

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_05]: like this

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_05]: like pity set

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_05]: that's the one episode

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_05]: that really really

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_05]: stands out for me

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_05]: is that the best

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_05]: episode of the season

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_05]: but it's the one

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_05]: that definitely

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_05]: stands out the most

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I think the reason

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_05]: why the season

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_05]: has felt so consistent

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_05]: is because

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_05]: the gameplay

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_05]: has really been

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_05]: consistent

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_05]: and we've seen

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_05]: powers shift

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_05]: even in the individual

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_05]: or the you know

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_05]: the pre-tribe

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_05]: pre-merge stage

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_05]: we even see

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_05]: some power flip-flops

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_05]: so I think that

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_05]: that's kept it

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_05]: consistently interesting

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_05]: both pre and post-merge

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking a lot

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_02]: about that as well

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_02]: in terms of like

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and I think there's

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_02]: been tweets around

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_02]: like new era gameplay

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: and the new era casting

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_02]: and everyone's a fan

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and everyone's smart

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and there's been

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_02]: stuff about this

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and I've seen

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_02]: about it a lot

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_02]: this week

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_02]: because I'm like

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_02]: damn it did not

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_02]: go well for Genevieve

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_02]: she survived

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_02]: but like by the skin

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_02]: of her teeth

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and not even

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I think due to

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_02]: anything she was doing

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: due to the fact

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_02]: that Tuku was more pressing

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and Gabe became more pressing

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and like I think

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve's out the door next

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_02]: but I'm like

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_02]: it's very very hard

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_02]: you know compared

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_02]: to like someone

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_02]: like Kim Spradlin

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_02]: to play a Kim Spradlin game

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_02]: or we see like

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_02]: if you're one lion

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_02]: out in front

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_02]: what Kim was

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_02]: what like David

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_02]: an Australian survivor

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_02]: how do you win

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_02]: you need players

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_02]: often to play

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_02]: against their self-interest

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_02]: now I do think

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_02]: that five players here

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_02]: did play against

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: their self-interest

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: but I do think

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_02]: new era players

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: are more likely

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: to play in their self-interest

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_02]: that someone like Andy

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: or Teenie

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_02]: or Rachel

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_02]: isn't going to be like

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_02]: thank you so much

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Sol or Genevieve

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_02]: or anyone for saving me

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_02]: let me do the emotional thing

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_02]: let me do

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_02]: you know

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_02]: the less logical thing

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and new era players

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_02]: will do that

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_02]: so the way that we see

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_02]: new era winners win

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_02]: is one of two ways

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_02]: mostly

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_02]: that those self-interested

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_02]: players

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_02]: that the Mariannes

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_02]: won't be like

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I love you Omar

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll have you

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_02]: as a groomsman

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_02]: in my wedding

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_02]: but I'm still

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_02]: going to vote you out

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_02]: so we see that happen

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's very

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_02]: you can't win

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_02]: as an individual lion

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_02]: you can be group lions

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_02]: like Reba

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_02]: even like Tika

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and then you

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_02]: differentiate yourself

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and those are the two ways

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_02]: so for Genevieve

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_02]: to be so out in front

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_02]: as a lion

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_02]: very very hard

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_02]: to win that as a new era game

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and you think

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_02]: well maybe she's that special

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_02]: but I don't even know

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_02]: if that specialness exists

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_02]: with new era players

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_02]: who will eventually

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_02]: get to something

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_02]: where they're going

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_02]: to be logical

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_02]: because this is like

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_02]: the smart superfan

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_02]: new era casting

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah I mean

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_08]: to ape from another show

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_08]: you can bounce checks

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_08]: in Survivor

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_08]: especially in the new era

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_08]: I do feel like

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_08]: the age of like

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_08]: I owe you

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_08]: is over

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_08]: you might want to

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_08]: continue to work

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_08]: with someone

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_08]: because you like them

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_08]: but hell

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_08]: look last week

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_08]: when Rachel's like

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_08]: yes Saul did

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_08]: single-handedly

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_08]: save me

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_08]: from Doom

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_08]: but I still got to

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_08]: join the

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_08]: you know the group

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_08]: and vote him out here

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_08]: and that's also

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_08]: what's really interesting

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_08]: as well to your point

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Shannon about

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_08]: who or whom

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_08]: may not have been

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_08]: like working

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_08]: for or against

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_08]: their best interest

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_08]: is that

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_08]: despite how much

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_08]: the power has shifted

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_08]: back and forth

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I think we still are in

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_08]: what I would say

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_08]: is also kind of a prevalent

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_08]: new era mindset

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_08]: which is like

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of sticking

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_08]: with the majority

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_08]: especially when things

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_08]: are so turbulent

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_08]: it's sort of like

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_08]: well if things are swaying

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_08]: in this direction

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_08]: let me hop on board

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_08]: but I'm not someone

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_08]: who's left out

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_08]: of the vote

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_08]: because we can see

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_08]: as an example

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_08]: of Sue and Kyle

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_08]: like what happens

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_08]: when you vote

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_08]: in the minority

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_08]: and I love that Sue

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_08]: from a story perspective

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_08]: now sort of has that

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_08]: that hand dealt

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_08]: in her direction

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_08]: where we can certainly

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_08]: talk about it

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_08]: about with the Gabe vote

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_08]: you know

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_08]: were Caroline

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_08]: were Kyle

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_08]: making moves

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_08]: like specifically

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_08]: on their own merits

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_08]: to say yes

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_08]: I want to take out Gabe here

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_08]: or was it more so

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_08]: hey there's five people

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_08]: we know where the votes

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_08]: are going

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_08]: and so let's just

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_08]: hop on board

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_08]: to make sure

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_08]: that we don't stick out

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_08]: like sore thumbs

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_08]: and especially

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_08]: really you know

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_08]: propagate this idea

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_08]: of too strong

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_08]: until the end

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_05]: well and I think

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_05]: we see a couple moments

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_05]: where it seems like

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_05]: both Kyle and Caroline

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_05]: are of their own

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_05]: volition volunteering

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Gabe

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_05]: but also

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_05]: so Kyle

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_05]: let's say for example

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_05]: when he goes on the reward

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_05]: of course he brings up

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Gabe's name

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_05]: but almost like

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_05]: of course he brings up

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Gabe's name

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_05]: right

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_05]: because it almost feels

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_05]: like that's

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_05]: that's what he should be doing

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_05]: and also it helps

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_05]: to keep him in the loop

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_05]: if they think

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_05]: that he's willing

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_05]: to go on board

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_05]: so then he can find out

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_05]: okay yeah

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I am safe

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_05]: and the off chance

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_05]: that he doesn't win immunity

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_05]: then Caroline also

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_05]: goes up to Andy

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_05]: and says hey

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm concerned about Gabe

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_05]: but who knows

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_05]: maybe she overheard

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Gabe's name

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_05]: being talked about

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_05]: and so did that

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_05]: to sort of like

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_05]: save herself

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_05]: what the situation is

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_05]: but at least we see

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_05]: some instances

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_05]: where they're doing it

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_05]: on their own

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_05]: but it's tough to know

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_05]: if that's

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_05]: they actively wanted

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Gabe out

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_05]: or did so

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_05]: because they didn't

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_05]: want to be the tall poppy

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_05]: oh maybe

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_08]: if Caroline being

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_08]: cheerleader mode

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_08]: as she likes to do

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_08]: she's like

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_08]: oh you want to vote out

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Gabe that's great

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I see good for you

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: yes

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: kill a cheerleader

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_02]: that's a bad type

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_02]: of cheerleader

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_02]: who's like yeah

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to vote out

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_02]: my ally

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_02]: it's like wait

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_02]: what

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_02]: don't be supportive

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: like that

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: that's not

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: the kind of supportive

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_02]: but I'm like

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_02]: very critical

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: of Caroline

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_02]: especially

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_02]: in this episode

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and I love Caroline

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and Kyle

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_02]: to an extent

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_02]: but I expect

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_02]: more from Caroline

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_02]: like I really think

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Caroline's a great player

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and so basically

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_02]: where I feel about it is

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and they talk about this

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_02]: at the very end of Know It Alls

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_02]: but when Gabe

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and Genevieve

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_02]: the two targets

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_02]: are talking at the end

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I really thought

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that was going in

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_02]: in the Rob

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_02]: direction right

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: right of like

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_02]: let's work together

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_02]: let's figure out

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah because it was like

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_02]: it was like

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_02]: it's one of us

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and they were just like

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_02]: yep

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like not

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_02]: yep

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and I do think

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: if we talk about

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_02]: people not acting

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_02]: in their best interest

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that this was due to

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_02]: like an emotional response

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_02]: like I do think

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and Steven talked about

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_02]: this at Know It Alls

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_02]: it's probably a lack of time

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Genevieve

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_02]: who's been really calm

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_02]: and like been able

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: to kind of work

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: through the game

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: in slow motion

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_02]: was overwhelmed

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_02]: by this change in position

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and maybe like

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_02]: it doesn't come to you

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: in the chaos

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: when you're both targets

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: it's hard to think about it

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_02]: but yes

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: if you like

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_02]: come together

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and we can talk about it

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: for a Rachel or a Sam

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_02]: really good options

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: it benefits everyone

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I put it into Excel

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I ran the simulations

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_02]: we can talk about it

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_02]: but it is beneficial

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: for everyone

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: to extremes

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_02]: especially to who

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_02]: there is literally

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_02]: no negative

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and for someone

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_02]: like Caroline

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and Kyle

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: if they don't have them

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: obviously they can't do it

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: but for Caroline

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: when you know the vote

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: you make it happen

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_02]: like Liana

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I love that you're

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_02]: responding to this

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and you seem

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: if you disagree with me now

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be surprised

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_02]: based on your reaction

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: oh my god

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_05]: no no no

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I had

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I had literally

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_05]: the same reaction

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_05]: as soon as

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Genevieve's laying

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_05]: in that hammock

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_05]: and Gabe goes up

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_05]: to her

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I was like

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_05]: oh oh

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_05]: because

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I immediately start

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_05]: running through

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_05]: the scenarios

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_05]: for the other

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_05]: tukus right

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_05]: because you're

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_05]: talking about

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_05]: the four tukus

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_05]: along with Genevieve

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_05]: that's five

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_05]: they can vote out

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Sam

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_05]: they can vote out

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Rachel

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_05]: they can vote out

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_05]: someone else

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_05]: because

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_05]: as Kyle

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_05]: has even expressed

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_05]: once Gabe goes

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_05]: even more of a target

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_05]: on him

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Caroline has said

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_05]: what did we hear

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_05]: when it was

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Rachel's time to go

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_05]: when Saul saved her

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_05]: she was like

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_05]: she's my favorite

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_05]: that's why she's gotta go

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_05]: and then Sue

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_05]: obviously

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_05]: you know

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Sue will save Gabe

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_05]: who she loves

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_05]: and was gonna vote

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_05]: with Gabe anyway

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_05]: so to me

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: it felt like

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: an absolute

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_05]: no-brainer

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_05]: for that group

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_05]: and then they have

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_05]: four out of eight

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_05]: like that's

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: or

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_02]: they have five

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and then Tuku

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_08]: would have four

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_08]: right exactly

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_08]: and what I would

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_08]: what I would offer

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_08]: is let's say

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_08]: you're Caroline

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_08]: and you're like

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_08]: god there's still

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_08]: five together

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_08]: then you pull

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Sue aside

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_08]: and you say

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_08]: hey

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_08]: it's gonna be

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Gabe tonight

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_08]: can you play

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_08]: your idol

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_08]: on her

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_08]: which

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I think

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean I think

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Sue would do it

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_08]: like how many times

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_08]: have we seen

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_08]: and basically

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_08]: her edit has kind of

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_08]: become besides

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I hate Kyle

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I love Gabe

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_08]: and I think she would

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_08]: have played

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_08]: the idol on her

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_08]: on him

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_08]: if she was sort of

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_08]: given the tip off

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_08]: because as Gabe said

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_08]: like if the goal is

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_08]: in the intermediary

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_08]: at least

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_08]: to get the Tukus

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_08]: as far as you can

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_08]: then

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_08]: expend any resources

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_08]: you need to

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_08]: to be able to get

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_08]: to that point

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_08]: and so I guess

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_08]: then the question

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_08]: is brought up

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_08]: because Gabe

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_08]: actually brought up

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_08]: to me

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_08]: that he was

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_08]: thinking of

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_08]: jumping

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_08]: out

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_08]: you know

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_08]: against the Tukus

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_08]: should he have

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_08]: survived

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_08]: that he had

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_08]: thought about

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_08]: multiple paths

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_08]: towards the end

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_08]: and obviously

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_08]: the Tukus

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_08]: pulling the Reba

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_08]: would be great

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_08]: but he was also

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_08]: thinking

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_08]: okay maybe I go

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_08]: to the end

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_08]: with Teenie

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_08]: maybe I go

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_08]: to the end

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_08]: with Sam

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_08]: etc etc

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_08]: maybe someone

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_08]: like Caroline

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_08]: is already

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_08]: seeding those

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_08]: things

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_08]: to go further

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_08]: with other

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_08]: people

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_08]: maybe she's

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_08]: pulling a Genevieve

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_08]: and hoping like

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_08]: hey if I leave

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Sue out of this

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll be able

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_08]: to come back

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_08]: tomorrow

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_08]: and we can

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_08]: repair it

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_08]: and we look

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_08]: more fractured

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_08]: as a group

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_08]: but yeah

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_08]: this did feel

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_08]: like in my opinion

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_08]: probably the first

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_08]: major misstep

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_08]: she's had this game

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_02]: well I mean

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_02]: you even need

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_02]: the idol

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_02]: and I think

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that would be

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_02]: like quite a big

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_02]: expense

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean I think

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_02]: that if you're

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_02]: you know

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_02]: worried Gabe

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: will come for you

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Gabe

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_02]: will have a lot

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_02]: less agency

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: to do it

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean he's

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_02]: the name

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_02]: he's the target

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I think you

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_02]: can do it

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I think

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_02]: for Caroline

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_02]: she's such

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_02]: a logical

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_02]: player

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and here's

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_02]: the path

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_02]: in front of

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: you

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: you have

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: the information

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and for me

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_02]: if I'm

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_02]: to make

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_02]: this move

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_02]: he's like

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_02]: there already

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_02]: is a move

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_02]: that to me

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_02]: do it anyway

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_02]: because I would

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_02]: want to go

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_02]: to the eight

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_02]: with four tukus

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and I think

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_02]: that a lot

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_02]: of us

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_02]: as commentators

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_02]: are like

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_02]: just do it

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and there's

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_02]: just so much

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_02]: internal discord

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: that they won't

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: do it

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and it just

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_02]: feels so obvious

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_02]: that that's

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: what they should

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: do

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: but yeah

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: even kind of

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_02]: beyond the numbers

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: of it all

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_02]: just coming

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: there with a plan

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_02]: that's already

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: happening

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: without you

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: is like

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_02]: oh I was about

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_02]: to lose

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: in this vote

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: so piling on

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: isn't really

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: going to make

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_02]: it a win

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_02]: for me

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and from a

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: credit perspective

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Caroline

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: the perception

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: of the wounded

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: birds is

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_02]: concerning for me

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and she doesn't

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_02]: get this move

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_02]: on Gabe

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_02]: you know

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: like she is

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_02]: piling on to

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_02]: something that

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_02]: was going to

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_02]: happen without

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_02]: her

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be out

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_02]: just for that

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_02]: even if it

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_02]: had been a

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_02]: good move

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_02]: for her

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_02]: which I don't

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_02]: even think

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_02]: it was

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: so then

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: you have

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: all the

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: information

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: you do

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: not need

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: the idol

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_02]: you go

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_02]: to Gabe

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_02]: and to Sue

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_02]: and to Genevieve

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Gabe and Genevieve

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_02]: you're the two

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_02]: targets

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a 50-50

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_02]: toss-up

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_02]: want it to

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_02]: not be a

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_02]: toss-up

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Sue obviously

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_02]: is already

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_02]: in that's

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_02]: four

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and Kyle

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle is even

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_02]: verbalizing the

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_02]: reasons Gabe

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_02]: shouldn't go

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and Gabe said

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_02]: in the X

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_02]: interview

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: like using

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: up the

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Gabe shield

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_02]: while Kyle

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_02]: is immune

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_02]: is a big

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_02]: big loss

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle isn't

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_02]: a threat

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: because of

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: the four

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_02]: two

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_02]: that's not

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_02]: the problem

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: he's going

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: to be an

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: individual

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_02]: challenge threat

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_02]: regardless

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: so coming

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_02]: you know

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_02]: with that

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and the fact

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_02]: that Gabe

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_02]: is good

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_02]: for all

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_02]: these people

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_02]: it's all

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: in their

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: best interest

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and then

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_02]: you get

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_02]: to a point

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_02]: where you're

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_02]: four of eight

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: two

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: coups

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: then you

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: hopefully

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_02]: get everyone

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_02]: on an easy

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve consensus

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_02]: which is you know

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's still

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_02]: best for Genevieve

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_02]: because she at least

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_02]: is definitely

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_02]: surviving the night

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and who knows

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: what happens

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_02]: from there

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_02]: but you go to

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_02]: then you're

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_02]: four of seven

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and then sure

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_02]: now let's look

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_02]: at taking out

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_02]: the Carls

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_02]: the Gabes

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and getting the

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_02]: credit for it

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and having to be

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_02]: closer to the end

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_02]: it's such a clear

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_02]: path for me

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I really think

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a winning

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_02]: path and I think

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_02]: she just went

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_02]: in the other

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_02]: direction

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm upset

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_02]: about it

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_02]: because I think

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe with more

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: time

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe with you

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_02]: know more clarity

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I know she's a

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_02]: very logical player

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I know that this

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_02]: was all probably

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_02]: happening in chaos

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_02]: but there is the win

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I see it

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_08]: and I'm

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_08]: they did that rice

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_08]: negotiation one day

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_08]: too late

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_08]: she had a secret

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_08]: scene where she was

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_08]: like said she was

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_08]: actually really struggling

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_08]: almost like putting

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_08]: words and thoughts

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_08]: together out there

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_08]: because of the

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_08]: the mounting hunger

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_08]: and so if she had

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_08]: won that cookies

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_08]: and cream cake

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_08]: this could have all

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_08]: gone in a very

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_08]: different direction

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_02]: it's so hard

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: because I'm like

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_02]: do the big brain

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_02]: thing on no energy

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and resources

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and I understand

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_02]: that but it's

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_02]: just for me

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I literally

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_02]: it's very hard

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_02]: for me to see

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_02]: how Caroline wins

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_02]: now because I

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_02]: think she needs

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_02]: a big perception

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_02]: change and where

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_02]: is that move coming

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_02]: even if she gets

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_02]: taken to the end

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_02]: now I think

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe it'll be

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_02]: to beat her

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_02]: because of the

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_02]: perception of her

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_02]: as maybe a quieter

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_02]: player maybe in

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_02]: like her demographic

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_02]: as well and I

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_02]: think that I can

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_02]: see the path to

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_02]: give her control

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_02]: to then start

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_02]: cutting it up

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and making the

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_02]: moves and this

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_02]: would be a great

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: move but I don't

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: think it would

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_02]: have poked her

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_02]: head out that much

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_02]: because there still

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_02]: would have been

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and I said this

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_02]: with Genevieve

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_02]: last week but

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_02]: there still would

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_02]: have been the

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_02]: games the

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_02]: cars Genevieve

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_02]: and other

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_02]: threats I think

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_02]: would have been

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_02]: perfect perfectly

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_02]: placed for her

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I have all right

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_05]: so I have two

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_05]: thoughts the first

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_05]: is why is

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_05]: cookies and cream

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_05]: cake like the

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_05]: best cake because

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_05]: when Jeff was

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_05]: like do you want

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_05]: to know what

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_05]: kind of cake

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_05]: it was and

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_05]: then oh my

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_05]: god not

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_05]: cookies and

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_05]: cream is

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_05]: cookies and

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_05]: cream have

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_05]: some sort

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_05]: of reputation

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_05]: that I don't

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_05]: know about

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean it's

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_08]: my far and

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_08]: away my

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_08]: favorite like

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_08]: if there is

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_08]: anything

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_08]: favorite cake

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Mike's is like

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_08]: yes it is my

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_08]: favorite flavor

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_08]: period

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_02]: cookies and cream

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_02]: is your favorite

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_02]: flavor if

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: anything

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: like ice

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_02]: cream

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah I mean

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_02]: ice cream

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_08]: cake milkshake

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_08]: like anything

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_08]: involving dairy

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_08]: and sweets like

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_08]: if there's a

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_08]: cookies and cream

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_08]: option I'm

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_08]: almost like

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_08]: everyone loves

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Oreos Oreos is

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_08]: objectively the

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_08]: best cookie and

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_08]: so you're just

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_08]: like blending it

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_08]: up and combining

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_08]: it with ice

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_08]: cream like

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_02]: what I mean

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_02]: cookies good

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_02]: cream good

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_02]: it's not my

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_02]: favorite I need

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_02]: some peanut

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: butter in there

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: for something to

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: be my favorite

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean I

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_08]: would agree with

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_08]: you though Liana

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_08]: that like this

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_08]: does not sound

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_08]: like a selling

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_08]: point for I'm

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_08]: gonna say at

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_08]: least like 75%

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_08]: of the population

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_08]: like luckily

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_08]: they caught the

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_08]: 25% in Gabe

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_08]: who seems like

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_08]: he saw Jesus

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Christ in his

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_08]: mind's eye when

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_08]: he ends up you

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_08]: know hearing about

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_08]: the cake in

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_08]: general but yeah

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know why

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_08]: this ended up

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_08]: being not only

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_08]: that the

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_08]: punctuation point

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_08]: at the end of

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_08]: his usually

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_08]: salacious sentence

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_08]: describing the

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_08]: sanctuary

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_05]: well and I

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_05]: liked it because

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_05]: then he was

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_05]: like do you

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_05]: want to know

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_05]: what it is

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_05]: like he didn't

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_05]: even just reveal

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_05]: it that there

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_05]: was some extra

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_05]: reveal to the whole

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_05]: cookies and cream

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_05]: nonsense but

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_05]: anyway I digress

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_05]: so cookies and

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_05]: cream aside the

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_05]: other thought that

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I had about this

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_05]: whole Caroline

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_05]: situation as well

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_05]: which kind of gets

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_05]: into what

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_05]: narratives were

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_05]: being set up with

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_05]: moving on to the

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_05]: rest of the season

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_05]: so what I see as

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_05]: an outside observer

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_05]: is Caroline not

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_05]: being included in

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_05]: this sort of like

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_05]: other alliance of

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_05]: misfits that's being

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_05]: formed that was

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_05]: not a relationship

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_02]: because I'm calling

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: them the non-tukus

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and that's just not

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: that good

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_02]: no I mean I

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_02]: think they uh

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I think not to

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_08]: tell much about

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_08]: next week yeah

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_08]: they don't they

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_08]: do like a cheers

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_08]: to like the

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_08]: underdogs or the

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_08]: misfits or something

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_02]: but in that in

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: the next week

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: preview like Sue

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and Caroline are

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: there but yeah

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: they said I think

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_02]: they said like

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_05]: outcasts exactly

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_05]: of the tukus the

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_05]: only person who we

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_05]: saw have this other

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_05]: relationship was Sue

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_05]: and Andy so to

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_05]: me that is a

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_05]: valuable relationship

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_05]: that we're going to

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_05]: see progress forward

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_05]: but Caroline was

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_05]: not included in any

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_05]: of those conversations

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_05]: so additionally even

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_05]: though she does flip

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_05]: to be on the other

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_05]: side she doesn't

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_05]: seem to be a core

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_05]: part of that and I

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_05]: don't see her then

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_05]: being able I mean

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_05]: maybe she can

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_05]: infiltrate it but it

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_05]: seems like that

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_05]: misfit group is really

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_05]: starting to form and I

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_05]: think that there's

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_05]: some wheels to that

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean yes and no I

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_08]: do agree you know the

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_08]: way Genevieve sort of

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_08]: describes the dynamics

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_08]: going into this vote

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_08]: as like there's four

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_08]: tukus and five

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_08]: miscellaneous people that

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_08]: are just kind of like

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_08]: atoms colliding

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_08]: occasionally working

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_08]: together and then

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_08]: drifting apart I

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_08]: still think well I

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_08]: do agree that that

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_08]: stability is starting

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_08]: to form I do not

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_08]: think it you know

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_08]: the jello is

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_08]: completely set

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_08]: whatsoever considering

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_08]: that you do still

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_08]: have the fact that

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Andy turned on

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Sam you still have

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_08]: the fact that Andy

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_08]: is throwing Genevieve

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_08]: under the bus to

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Rachel like I still

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_08]: think there are some

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_08]: fractures there that I

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_08]: do not think hell I

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_08]: mean look at what

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_08]: happened with teeny

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_08]: and Genevieve in this

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_08]: episode which I found

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_08]: so invigorating like

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_08]: the first few minutes

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I love emotions on

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I love how you're

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_08]: like it was so

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_08]: invigorating the

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_08]: teeny was so upset

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_08]: honestly yeah it was

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_05]: so upset everyone's

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_05]: crying yes this is a

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_05]: man who points at

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_05]: others misery

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_08]: literally no because

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_08]: I think in a especially

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_08]: in a season that is

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_08]: all about like the

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_08]: different moving

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_08]: strategic pieces it's

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_08]: a very marked

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_08]: reminder and Genevieve

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I think expresses says

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_08]: out loud something

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_08]: that basically every

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_08]: single person who has

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_08]: played feels which is

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_08]: like shit I hurt

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_08]: someone's feelings

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_08]: badly like I

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_08]: survivors living in

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_08]: your own little world

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_08]: and from teeny's

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_08]: perspective their world

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_08]: just ended and having

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_08]: to deal with that and

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_08]: dealing with and also

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_08]: having to deal with it

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_08]: unintentionally like

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_08]: that's the interesting

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_08]: thing about Genevieve

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_08]: is that she really

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_08]: thought she could have

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_08]: her cookies and

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_08]: cream cake and eat it

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_08]: too she thought like

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll plan the saw

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_08]: blindside and none of

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_08]: this will get back on to

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_08]: me just like the

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Keyshawn vote I'll

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_08]: slink into the shadows

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_08]: and it all completely

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_08]: blew up in her face

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_08]: that's why it was

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_08]: really interesting to

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_08]: your point shit into

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_08]: like steer in a

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_08]: completely different

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_08]: mode because this

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_08]: was the first time

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_08]: that like she had

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_08]: really been outed

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_08]: the entire game and

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_08]: so to have her and

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_08]: teeny really speak to

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_08]: truth a lot of these

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_08]: concepts that a lot of

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_08]: people go out that

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_08]: there that honestly we

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_08]: as fans should

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_08]: sometimes remember of

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_08]: like yeah these are

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_08]: irrational human beings

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_08]: sometimes they're

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_08]: squishy bags of meat

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_08]: that sometimes make

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_08]: bad decisions and feel

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_08]: bad feelings like it

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_08]: really brings me a

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_08]: lot of life and

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_08]: heartens me and

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_08]: reminds me that yeah

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_08]: you know before

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_08]: during after they're on

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_08]: island experience like

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_08]: they are people at the

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_08]: end of the day

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_02]: no they are numbers

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and this is the thing

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and can I just say

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_02]: that they know that

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_02]: these players the

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_02]: the teenies the

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Rachels the Andys who

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I think are in the

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_02]: best spot and I want

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_02]: to talk about it because

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I think one of those

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_02]: three will win they

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_02]: know about self-interest

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_02]: and you say like but

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_02]: there's been all of

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_02]: these like you know

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_02]: they're not the suit

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_02]: being like you know

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_02]: weeks of I want to

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_02]: kill Kyle they will

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_02]: get over it and we see

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_02]: now we are in a group

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_02]: that now the game is

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_02]: out especially it's

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_02]: literally just Sue and

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Caroline like we had

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_02]: like the three larvo

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_02]: pairs one individual

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_02]: from each the three

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_02]: god of pairs from the

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_02]: beginning one individual

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_02]: from each and now just

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Sue Caroline and Kyle

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and I think that speaks

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_02]: for itself and for the

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_02]: self-interested players

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_02]: the outcasts I do think

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_02]: that they will know

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_02]: where the going is good

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's with each other

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_02]: they're now on a path

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_02]: where if I'm teeny and

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Rachel and Andy I'm

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_02]: thinking we've all kind

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_02]: of had misses in the game

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: we might want to sit

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_02]: next to each other we

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_02]: could probably have a

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_02]: good story against each

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_02]: other and we need to

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_02]: take out these big

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_02]: threats like now Kyle

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_02]: now Genevieve maybe

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_02]: we'll take like a

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Carolina suit with us

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_02]: but we'll have the

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_02]: control in that we'll

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_02]: cut Sam along the way

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_02]: like it makes so much

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_02]: sense and they should do

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: it and they're so

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_02]: benefited to do it so I

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_02]: do think that they will

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: because they know to do

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: that and I don't think

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_02]: that Genevieve is part

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_02]: of the outcasts like

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Sam says the five but

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve's not

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve's had power

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_02]: she's she's a lion

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_02]: it's these other hyenas

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: and that's how I see

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_02]: this nine you had four

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_02]: two crews who refuse

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: to be a unit but you

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_02]: were so close we'll

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_02]: discuss then there was

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve and then

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: there were these four

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: others Sam who's also

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_02]: been on the bottom but

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we'll get cut

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: along the way but I

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_02]: think did very well in

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Sam teeny Andy and

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Rachel did so so well

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and yeah that's why it

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_02]: comes back to me that

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_02]: just imagine if Genevieve

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and the two crews turn it

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_02]: around and take out

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Sam or Rachel we can

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_02]: we can decide that and

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_02]: then have the power to

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_02]: go from then on and

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_02]: now I think the other

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_02]: group have that now I

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: think the other four

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: can hopefully get it

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_02]: for them an easy

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_02]: consensus on Genevieve

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and then have four of

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_02]: seven and then start

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_02]: picking where they want

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_02]: to go and it'll be

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_02]: someone like Sam in a

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_02]: car spot now who

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_02]: might have to you know

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_02]: protect being cut but

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah I just think they

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_02]: did so so well yeah

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_02]: so I put up the

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_02]: exile spreadsheet by

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_02]: the way okay it's

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: just interesting to

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: anyone because I want

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_02]: to hear the simulation

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_02]: no don't not even

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: with Nate Silver at the

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_02]: moment I feel like not

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_02]: at the moment but but

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I do feel like if you

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_02]: are it's already going

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_02]: to it's going in a

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: really good spot so the

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: question is is it like a

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_02]: prisoner's dilemma does

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve and Tukou go

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_02]: together and now they're

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: like oh but are you just

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_02]: trying to get me should I

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_02]: not trust that no because

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_02]: for Tukou there is

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: literally no downside like

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: for Tukou if they vote

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_02]: for Sam and they're like

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: we're gonna do this and

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_02]: then Genevieve does

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_02]: actually vote like turns

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_02]: against him and votes

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_02]: for Gabe but then the if the

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: other side vote for Gabe

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: like you know I'm not

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_02]: explaining this well

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_02]: there are eight simulations

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm running it back okay

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah there are eight

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_02]: possibilities of where

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02]: everyone could vote

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_02]: assuming that each of the

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_02]: three sides Genevieve

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Tukou and the non-Tukous

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_02]: could vote for one of

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_02]: the three of one of the

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: other two sides because

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_02]: there's three sides does

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_02]: that make sense yeah so

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: it's four four and one is

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_02]: basically what you're

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah there's three sides

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_02]: a four four and a one so

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: in the eight possibilities

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: two of the times Gabe's

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_02]: gonna go anyway so it's

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_02]: like it doesn't matter

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_02]: which way you go you know

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_02]: like for if you're Gabe as

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_02]: an example you can vote

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_02]: for Sam or for Genevieve if

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_02]: the all the other side vote

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_02]: for you you're going out

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_02]: five to four regardless

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_02]: right that Genevieve has

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: the same it could be eight

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: to one twice in two of the

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_02]: ways if they just vote

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_02]: together for Sam Sam will

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: go and that's better like

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_02]: survival is important and

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: also I think Sam going is

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: better for the two crews in

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve going because if

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve goes anyway they

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_02]: go back to a four four next

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_02]: week this way they go back to a

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_02]: four three one vote out

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve hopefully go

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_02]: through to a four three so

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_02]: that's even better and then

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_02]: on the ones where maybe is

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_02]: this making sense yeah yes

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_02]: okay great the way you're

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_02]: looking at me like maybe it's

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_02]: not on the ones where you

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_08]: hear the ellipses at the

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_08]: end of Leon's response

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_02]: the same way that Sam

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_02]: responded to to Jeff when

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_02]: he's like Gabe convinced

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_02]: you and Sam's like sure

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_02]: oh I love that moment

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_02]: it was it felt but anyway

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_08]: whatever whatever Jeff you

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_08]: got me where you want me

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_02]: sure whatever Jeff I don't

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_02]: care shut up on the last two

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_02]: where it could be like so

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_02]: say you are Tuku you're

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_02]: like we're gonna vote for

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Sam and now what's happened

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_02]: is um actually the other

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_02]: side has voted for

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve and she's betrayed

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_02]: you and voted for Gabe and

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_02]: you're like no we could have

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: just been an eight one on

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve actually then it's

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_02]: just a Sam Genevieve four

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_02]: four and you actually have the

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_02]: power at the re-vote between a

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Sam and Genevieve four four so

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_02]: there's no there's no downside

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_02]: to that so if you're Genevieve

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_02]: you're like wow this really

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_02]: behooves them they're

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_02]: probably gonna do it there's

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_02]: no downside to get out a

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_02]: better target and definitely

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_02]: survive and if you're

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve the one tiny little

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is making

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_02]: sense now if you're Genevieve

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_02]: the one tiny little risk is

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_02]: that if you okay I'm gonna

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_02]: vote for Sam I'm gonna go all

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_02]: in on voting for Sam but

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_02]: they've actually voted with

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_02]: you they the the non-tuthers

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_02]: have voted for Gabe and now

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_02]: you've given up your five

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_02]: four and the other side

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_02]: have betrayed you and

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_02]: voted for Genevieve now it's

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_02]: a four four one where it's

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Gabe and Genevieve and

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_02]: you've just voted for Sam so

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe the other side who

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_02]: just voted for Gabe are

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_02]: like screw you but that's

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and they vote for Genevieve

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and she's given up her five

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_02]: four that's the one tiny

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_02]: little risk to Genevieve

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_02]: other than that she she

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_02]: wanted to play a shot in

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_02]: the dark like she thought

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_02]: she was out she thought it

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_02]: was like a 50-50 shot I

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_02]: think this did make sense in

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_02]: the end eight eight versions

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_02]: in the simulation in Excel

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_02]: there's no downside to

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Tuku just trust them out

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: there is no downside for

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: them to do it and Genevieve

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_02]: can trust it there's no

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_02]: downside for Tuku no risk at

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_02]: all so they're gonna do it

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_02]: it gets out a better target

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_02]: it's so trustable this did

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_02]: make sense it made sense

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_05]: and Finn I mean I think I

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_05]: look at it as each what's

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_05]: best for each individual

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_05]: player right like what I

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_05]: think is best for each

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_05]: individual player Gabe

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_05]: obviously it makes sense

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_05]: because and Genevieve I

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_05]: think both of them because

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_05]: if and that's assuming that

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_05]: they can trust each other

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_05]: right because we

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_05]: because that's the

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_08]: parenthetical of again that

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_08]: conversation that you that

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_08]: we were talking about with

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_08]: the hammock shouldn't just be

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Genevieve going yep yep yep

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_08]: you have to be like listen

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_08]: we both need each other

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_08]: right now we are considered

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_08]: we are the names that are

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_08]: being bandied about by far

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_08]: the most besides Kyle out of

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_08]: anybody here if I'm gone

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_08]: you're gonna be gone next

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_02]: but it's not even about

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_02]: being gone next that's what

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I think is important because

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I do think Genevieve either

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_02]: way like either side of four I

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_02]: think should take out

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve next and probably

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_02]: will but it's about it's not

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_02]: about going gone next it's

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_02]: about one of us will go

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_02]: tonight we are the two

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_02]: options tonight like we are

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_02]: perfectly exactly in sync in

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_02]: terms of if it could be me or

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_02]: you a 50-50 we don't have

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_02]: the control there's basically

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_02]: four other swing boats

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_02]: hitting us against each

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_02]: other and then choosing our

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_02]: fate what if we come

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_02]: together and decide the fate

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_02]: and then neither of us will

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_02]: definitely go tonight and for

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Gabe yes you'll be in a four

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_02]: with Tuku and you'll you'll

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_02]: have the four three one which

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_02]: will be perfect to the point

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_02]: where last week I would have

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_02]: said Genevieve no definitely

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_02]: don't embolden Tuku to being

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_02]: four of eight but at this point

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_02]: beggars can't be choosers her

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_02]: position is so low that you have

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_02]: like at least it's saving you

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_02]: four tonight so right you know

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_02]: that Mike meant by saying they

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_02]: would want to do that obviously

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_05]: who goes next I think he meant

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_05]: like tonight yeah exactly

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah next tonight we need to

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_05]: save each other I mean what I

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_08]: do find interesting is you know

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Tuku as much as Gabe talked about

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_08]: the four out of eight going back

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_08]: to your earlier point about how

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_08]: maybe the the outcast misfits

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_08]: little rascals whatever you want

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_08]: to call them are like

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_08]: coagulating into an endgame group

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_08]: assuming that the next two easy

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_08]: targets are some combination of

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Genevieve and Kyle I think those

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_08]: are two unless they choose to

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_08]: complicate things some more I

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_08]: think these are two incredibly

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_08]: easy things to serve up and I

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_08]: think some nice palate cleansers

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_08]: after like this big Gabe blindside

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_08]: that helps shift things in a

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_08]: monumental direction then it's

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_08]: seven then you only need four and

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_08]: so I would imagine maybe from

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_08]: like especially an Andy

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_08]: perspective right who were seen

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_08]: specifically as making all of

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_08]: these one-on-one connections I

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_08]: imagine he is trying to formulate

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_08]: what that four is because

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_08]: basically once they get to seven

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_08]: barring any sort of unforeseen

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_08]: circumstances involving idols or

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_08]: shots of the dark reappearing in the

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_08]: game or what have you then like you

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_08]: could run the table feasibly to get

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_05]: to the end well and I think that's

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_05]: why we saw that conversation with

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Andy and Sue because obviously Andy

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_05]: is thinking about this not just the

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_05]: four but I mean who he wants to sit

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_05]: next to in the final three and Sue

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_05]: seems to be that person for Andy

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_05]: which if it's that person for Andy

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Sue is probably that person for a lot

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_05]: of people so that's why to me Sue I

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_05]: differentiate from the rest of the

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_05]: two coos because I see her almost as

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_05]: like her own entity of people want to

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_05]: bring her to the end because they

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_05]: see her as a goat and they see her as

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_05]: someone who they can beat but no one

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_02]: is a goat to like no one should be a

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_02]: goat this early and that's the thing

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_02]: that's why I come for like Caroline and

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Sue it's like if they play optimally

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a path and I know the

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_02]: perception of Sue is not great and I

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_02]: do think the car stuff is increasingly

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_02]: terrible but like for Sue and Caroline

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_02]: especially like Sue has an idol you

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_02]: know I feel like so good about Rachel's

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_02]: chances because I'm like she has an

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_02]: idol and I bet she uses it in a cool

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_02]: way like for Sue yeah you just do

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_02]: something better now control to get

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_02]: the emotions out of the way to have not

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_02]: hate Kyle because he's poor maybe I

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_02]: don't know what's going on there and

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_02]: but then use the idol to make sure you

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_02]: win the war with Gabe later on that

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_02]: could be a winning move and I know

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that the perception will always be

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_02]: tough with that demographic and I'm

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_02]: not saying that's not true for Sue

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_02]: but I feel like the move should be

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_02]: there so yeah I mean for Caroline I

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_02]: think you know it's been spoken

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_02]: about for Kyle as well you know yeah

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_02]: the shield with Gabe like it's just

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_02]: it's there for everyone and I just

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_02]: feel like this was a big mess for

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Tuku and Genevieve unfortunately

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know I think Sue I think they

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_05]: know the perception of Sue I think

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_05]: they figured out who Sue is I think

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_05]: especially Sue someone age

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_05]: that's the one thing they haven't

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_05]: figured out that's right yes as what

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_05]: was that in the word association I

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_05]: think Saul was 45 that was his word

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_05]: association for her which is

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_05]: hilarious but anyway so look the way

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_05]: that I think Sue is being perceived if

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Andy is willing to have this kind of

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_05]: conversation this early there is a

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_05]: perception of her and I think she

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_05]: also came in when we did all there you

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_05]: know Mike did all the preseason

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_05]: interviews Sue was like the top of

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_05]: everybody's list of someone she wanted

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_08]: to work with cookies and cream of

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_05]: people so cookies and exactly Mike's

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_05]: favorite flavor of human that's gonna

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_05]: be my new that's what I aim to be

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_08]: cookies and cream the cookies and cream

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_08]: of people honestly like yeah that's my

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_08]: end-all be-all in life I could have all

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_08]: the monetary success I need all the

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_08]: happiness but like that will be my

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_08]: unfinished business my ghost will haunt

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_08]: this mortal plane until I am deemed the

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_08]: cookies and cream of people so Pooey and

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I at dinner we were talking about what's

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_05]: the best compliment you personally

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_05]: could receive and so now I know what it

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_05]: is for you Mike if I ever really want

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_05]: to compliment you I will say why what

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_05]: the you're you really are the cookies

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_05]: and cream of people I could cry I know

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I love you man anyway uh was it about

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_05]: too uh yes so I sorry Shannon but like

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_05]: cream of people I I just don't think

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_05]: that there's a way for Sue to salvage I

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_02]: mean she would really oh no I agree

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_02]: with you I'm I'm I'm just saying like if

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_02]: like you know I'm just saying

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_02]: theoretically at the final nine no one

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_02]: should be an all-out goat at this point

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean Marianne was seen as a goat at

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_02]: this point but Marianne had a different

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_02]: approach to Sue if me my biggest issue

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_02]: with Sue is the way she is approaching

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_02]: the game you know if she's in

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_02]: confessional like everyone thinks I

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_02]: hate Kyle but actually and then she's

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_02]: a different human being but I'm just

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_02]: saying theoretically no one should be

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_02]: a goat this early and everyone should

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_02]: be able to put the building blocks in

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_02]: place to get to a final three where

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_02]: they could possibly sit next to two

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_02]: people that they could be this early

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_02]: on I do think that that will change

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_02]: later and I don't think that's true

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_02]: for Sue but I think that that's an

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_02]: indictment to this point possibly possibly

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_02]: on some stuff that's unfair demographic

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_02]: style and possibly on some stuff of

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_02]: the way that she is approaching it so

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's tough and for someone

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_02]: like Kyle then should you say well he

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_02]: should flip on Tukou because Tukou have

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_02]: been coming for him we don't endorse it

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_02]: it doesn't make sense as much to us

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_02]: that Tukou won't just try and like

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_02]: really just like take this down to

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_02]: four of eight but they they are

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_02]: coming for him so should he turn but

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I do think for Kyle firstly again it's

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_02]: mostly just on on shields for me you

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_02]: know so for Kyle if he can get through

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_02]: with a little bit of Tukou's ability

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_02]: if they were doing better or even just

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_02]: having Gabe as a shield take out like a

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Rachel now would be best for Kyle and

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_02]: we can talk about Sam and Rachel as a

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_02]: target take out a Rachel and then know

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that Sam might become a target Gabe

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_02]: might be a target Genevieve might be a

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_02]: target just to get you a little later

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_02]: to try and win out closer to the end is

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_02]: best case scenario for Kyle to me

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_02]: especially because I think he was

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_02]: misreading it and what Gabe says in

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_02]: the exits is he's like well Gabe will

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_02]: come for me and Gabe was doing it more

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_02]: as like a means to an end because

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle was that option I think Gabe more

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_02]: than anyone probably wanted to work

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_02]: with Kyle so keeping Gabe even if it's

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: not a Tukou thing but just as a pure

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: shield and a possible ally is I

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_02]: definitely think what he should have

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_02]: done and yeah using that up when he

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_02]: was vulnerable I mean when he was

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_02]: immune and not vulnerable and like the

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_02]: shield potential of Gabe like he

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_02]: wasn't a shield here because Kyle was

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_02]: immune so that was a really big miss

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_02]: so yeah I mean that's the thing about

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Kyle is that it's it's so interesting

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_08]: because I feel like we haven't really

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_08]: gotten this in a while in Survivor of

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_08]: if I'm Kyle I basically have to make

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_08]: every move with the impetus of like

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_08]: okay if I don't win immunity what's

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_08]: gonna help me not get voted out because

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_08]: now I think honestly and maybe there are

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_08]: other relationships that we won't see or

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_08]: the the worm will turn or whatever but

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_08]: I think from my perspective every other

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_08]: window has shut you won four individual

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_08]: immunity challenges you have one we'll

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_02]: talk about who won what but yes you

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_08]: want you have you would have worn the

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_08]: most amount of immunity necklaces out

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_08]: of anybody in the new year we'll talk

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_08]: about who wore what necklaces for what

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_08]: reason okay sounds like what should we

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_08]: talk about it

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_08]: the what the asterisk of the split tribal

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_08]: council there's so many I can't like

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_02]: because people are arguing with me about

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_02]: this and you can't put him in the

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_02]: record book for the other five-time

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_02]: immunity winners he was beaten by two

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_02]: people at the very least at the very

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_02]: least at cheney and genevieve who have

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_02]: no stats on their record literally beat

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: him and like it's a different game I'm

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_02]: like he actually was competing directly

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_02]: against him for a reward which he lost

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_02]: like that one is like an actual loss

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_02]: for me like that's a the other ones are

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_02]: just kind of funny like yes

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Murgatory he was only against half the

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_02]: tribe but I guess he had earned that by

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_02]: winning the group challenge it still is

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_02]: half the tribe and people are like well

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_02]: you know there you play fewer people when

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_02]: you get to the end game it's like yeah

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_02]: but then you've survived through rounds to

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_02]: get to the end game to to own that right

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_02]: to only competing against fewer people

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and then obviously it was it was a co-win

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_02]: with sue sue might have outlasted him we

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_02]: don't know to this point but okay fine

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_02]: they a lot of people get co-wins but

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_02]: those are just kind of funny that

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_02]: there's an asterisk but one of them

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_02]: he did lose to two people and people

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_02]: will say well that was the game yeah

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what I'm criticizing I'm

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_02]: criticizing it because it's dumb edge

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_02]: of extinction he just won yeah that's

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_02]: what I criticize it's stupid anyway okay

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_05]: but it doesn't we're talking about it

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_02]: right so he should be like I didn't win

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_02]: he should say that all day every day

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_02]: actually no Jeff um you want to

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_03]: rescind that record he should he should

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_02]: be like he should laugh it off he should

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_02]: be like isn't it funny that I literally

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_02]: lost to two people and I'm getting this

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_02]: record I would be doing that because

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_02]: it's also true let alone the threat level

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_05]: and he didn't win okay if he had like

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_05]: one other individual immunity like and

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_05]: it was like oh Kyle's won two individual

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_05]: immunities then it could be like well one

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_05]: technically but he's got like a good I

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_05]: don't know he's got a bunch

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_05]: except this one well I know but then

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Gabe's also has an asterisk because

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_05]: it's like well you competed in groups

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_05]: and then blah blah blah three people

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah exactly only be three people and

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess that is true and according to

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_05]: the casuals he took his foot off of the

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_05]: thing so technically should have been

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_05]: disqualified despite the fact that it's

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_05]: not in the rules but okay maybe the

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_02]: issue with that every single challenge

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_02]: of the entire merge has an asterisk

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_02]: because that's new year challenges

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and that's the conversation that we

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_02]: should have though but that's why I

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_08]: say winning its person in the new era

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_08]: like I don't necessarily I don't know

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_08]: if it goes up against Kobe Donaldson or

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Brad Culpepper it's just like but all

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_08]: that being said I think it just becomes

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_08]: the easiest thing like yes he was able

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_08]: to get by last week because of the

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_08]: protection of the tukus Dave being a

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_08]: large example of that and the fact that

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Genevieve wanted to pull this big thing

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_08]: on Saul but I just think it's so

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_08]: freaking easy to be like okay who should

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_08]: we get rid of I don't know the guy that

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_08]: has won 80% of the challenges this

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_08]: season like he has either from a tribe

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_08]: setting a group setting or an individual

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_08]: setting he has lost three challenges this

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_08]: entire season in 10 episodes like it I

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_08]: know that as the game starts getting

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_08]: sticky towards the end there are more

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_08]: convoluted reasons to take people out

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_08]: but I feel like especially with these

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_08]: back-to-back-to-back tribals sometimes

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_08]: people just want a break in terms of

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_08]: logic and I just think it becomes so

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_08]: easy to say well Kyle's not immune this

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_08]: time easy to get rid of him a way for

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_08]: all of us to get on the same page and

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_08]: then we reshuffle the deck and move

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_08]: forward the next day so if I'm Kyle I

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_08]: have to adapt my gameplay to thinking

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_08]: through okay it's no longer like which

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_08]: alliance is working best for me it's

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_08]: just got to become okay in the worst

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_08]: case scenario if I lose immunity or let

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_08]: me try to vote people out and maybe

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_08]: this is one reason why he gets rid of

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Gabe let me get rid of people who could

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_08]: be a threat to get me immunity at the end

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_02]: of the day yeah but like is Gabe even

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_02]: that person and like and then let's talk

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_02]: about him last week well who beat no okay

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_02]: fair enough you beat him one time if

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_02]: anything like Sue has been like I think

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_02]: like really an endurance threat against

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_02]: him I think that that's why when you look

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_02]: at it Sam or Rachel you know and I mean

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_02]: to be fair if I'm Kyle on the target now

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_02]: if they do the the dream thing we all wish

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_02]: they did like if I'm Kyle yeah you could

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_02]: take out Sam as an immunity threat or you

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_02]: take out Rachel who then leaves in the

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_02]: other threats with you to give you some

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_02]: chance if you don't win because it's

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_02]: going to be very very hard to win out

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_02]: especially because who knows what

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_02]: winning is sometimes coming third is

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_02]: winning so in saying that maybe you know

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and we kind of see this in other like

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: challenge archetypes like Chappies for

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_02]: example it's like he was trying to

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_02]: maximize the the win in other ways or

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_02]: you know maybe maximize the chance of

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_02]: winning or as you're saying maximize the

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_02]: chance if you lose and I do think if you

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_02]: want to maximize the chance of winning

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_02]: you could still take out like a Sam and

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that would be fine but I would

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_02]: for me take out maximize your chances if

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_02]: you lose take out a Rachel and then

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: people might be focused on the Sams and

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_02]: the Gabe's and the Genevieve's and I do

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_02]: think Gabe and Genevieve were at that

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_02]: point anyway and then hopefully get you

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_02]: to a point where you can win out a lot

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_02]: further down the line now if I'm

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Caroline I'm thinking I want to take

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_02]: out like a Sam because if you take out

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Rachel here then you know you're gonna

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_02]: have to get rid of like all these people

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of blocking up the endgame these

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_02]: like big guys who juries tend to love

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_02]: the you know Sam, Gabe, Kyle, Genevieve

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_02]: you're leaving them all in the game if

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_02]: you take out a Rachel I think that one's

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_02]: tough it's better maybe to depower Rachel

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_02]: here and maybe take out like a Sam but

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_02]: honestly both good options across the board

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Sam's an easy name Rachel I think has

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_02]: been a target is a huge threat as well

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah great options for me I yeah I think

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_08]: the Rachel thing is tough though because

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_08]: while I do agree that from a demographic

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_08]: perspective yeah these these bigger younger

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_08]: more athletic guys are usually perceived as

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_08]: like the big heads but Rachel has a pretty

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_08]: dang good resume up to this point I mean

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_08]: even looking at her story right she

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_08]: verbalized it in this episode I lost my

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_08]: closest ally right before the merge and

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I've been searching for a partner and I

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_08]: was doomed but because of my own

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_08]: connections I was able to get Saul to

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_08]: single-handedly save me and then what

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_08]: did I do I voted him out the next

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_08]: opportunity that I could you know

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_08]: obviously they don't know this but she

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_08]: has the idol that she could play as well

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that you know what Caroline

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_08]: espoused about Rachel a couple episodes

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_08]: ago is that in her opinion she is on

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_08]: the same level as some of those guys

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_08]: that you were talking about and you

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_08]: know we'll talk about this edit in a

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_08]: little bit I do wonder if this is the

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_08]: canary in the coal mine for an

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_08]: eventual Rachel win that it's like hey

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_08]: despite her being personified as on the

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_08]: out she actually is very threatening if

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_08]: she gets in with the right amount of

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_08]: people and as she vocalizes in this

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_08]: episode she feels like she finally is

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_08]: starting to get her footing back two

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_05]: other things for Rachel one she's really

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_05]: good at puzzles what did we learn from

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_05]: the pre-merge that she puzzles in the

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_02]: later in the later they'll be puzzles

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_02]: that's right they will start getting

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_05]: puzzles so once you stop doing the stand

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_05]: and hold a thing type challenge we will

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_05]: start to get puzzles and I think that

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_05]: that's somewhere that she could excel

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_05]: she's got puzzle socks for goodness

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_05]: sakes and then the other thing about

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Rachel the the edit of Rachel it was

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_05]: last week when she got the I played my

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_05]: shot in the dark explanation that moment

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_05]: was like aha okay we as the audience are

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_05]: getting an insight into why she's making

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_05]: certain moves and Shannon you brought up

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_05]: teeny is another one of your possible

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_05]: winner candidates the reason why I would

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_05]: write teeny off is because a lot of the

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_05]: confessionals we get from teeny I mean

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_05]: obviously we get a lot of really great

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_05]: stuff in this episode specifically but

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_05]: before that it was either teeny's in the

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_05]: middle of chaos because lava was a hot

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_05]: mess pre-merge or teeny gets the content

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_05]: that's sort of moving the story forward

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_05]: but not necessarily about their own

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_05]: personal perspective so teeny got a lot

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_05]: of content that was talking about oh and

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_05]: all women's alliance what does this look

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_05]: like in survivor broad strokes about

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_05]: these idols and advantages and things

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_05]: like that that's more big picture

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_05]: narrative not necessarily about them

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_05]: specifically so that's why for me teeny

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_05]: has dropped off of my winner candidate

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_02]: list I go ahead I would have Rachel

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_02]: first but from an editing game perspective

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to talk about that but Rachel I

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_02]: think is a very different player if this

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_02]: fulcrum move goes a different way this

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_02]: might be the move that opens up the path

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_02]: for Rachel and I want to talk about

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_02]: that but if Sam goes here I think

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Rachel's path is very very different

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and I think the way that you argue

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_02]: against her is very very different

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_02]: that's not just Rachel who now is a

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_02]: smart player who has these like cool

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_02]: resume things like you know little

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_02]: underdog moves as I've described them

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_02]: like the shot the shot in the dark

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm engaging that or even like trying

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_02]: to get the rice like these things the

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_02]: jurors will love because they're cool

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and novel and now she has a pathway

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_02]: she could use her idol well now I see it

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_02]: for Rachel other than having the idol

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_02]: if Sam goes here and I'm Caroline

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_02]: sitting next to Rachel I'm thinking

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_02]: out of the Sierra vote you know out of

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_02]: the Annika vote out of the Sam vote

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_02]: this is someone who was so depowered

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: so they were the cool little things

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_02]: but I had the control so keeping a

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_02]: depowered Rachel for me is okay and you

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_02]: know the the puzzle aspect is its own

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_02]: concern as well so I do think like again

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Sam and Rachel are both big threats in

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_02]: their own right but depowering either

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_02]: one of them to sit next to them at the

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_02]: end and just be like they were an

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_02]: underdog but they were an underdog

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_02]: because I kept them there and we might

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_02]: like underdogs but like they had no

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_02]: power and control so if they get to the

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_02]: end with me that's something I can argue

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_02]: again so yeah taking out either one of

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_02]: them for their respective threat level

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_02]: if I'm Carl and Caroline were making

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_02]: this decision in their best interest as

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: like really you know wanting to kind of

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_02]: shore up their end game Genevieve and

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Gabe and even Sue for Gabe are just trying

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_02]: to survive but if I'm Caroline and

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle thinking how does it look for my

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_02]: end game I'm taking out a big threat in

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Sam or Rachel and I'm depowering the

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_02]: other one and sitting next to them and

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_02]: being like they're a different person

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_02]: than they could have been you know now

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_02]: that it has gone well for them I am

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_08]: really intrigued by the way they

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_08]: personified Sam in this episode where

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_08]: he is the one that seems to be most

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_08]: vocally pushing the game vote it starts

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_08]: on the reward and we can talk about how

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_08]: much Kyle was just kind of like smiling

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_08]: and nodding along but he clearly pushes

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_08]: it at camp as well but what's so

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_08]: interesting to me is at least from my

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_08]: perspective we got stuff from like

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_08]: both Andy and Rachel being to me coming

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_08]: across is like okay this will only happen

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_08]: if they turn their keys and we got so

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_08]: much from like Sam being on the bottom

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_08]: and this is finally his opportunity to

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_08]: claw back but at the same time I mean

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Andy talks about it right how the power

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_08]: dynamic has flipped so much so that Sam

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_08]: feels like the Andy being like haha I'm

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_08]: gonna make my big move and he's like

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_08]: that's nice buddy I'm gonna let you do

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_08]: this when I'm the one that is the one

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_08]: to make it happen

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_05]: he also got to try keely for the first

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_08]: time I know slowly

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_02]: let him check off not as big of a

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_02]: fruit it's so it's a very long

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_02]: storyline of like needing to see Sam

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_02]: try all these fruits but I um I really

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_02]: credit Sam the most and like I don't

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_02]: put him as much as a winner contender

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_02]: because I do think at a point you just

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_02]: do come for Sam like it sounds like I'm

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_02]: gonna turn on them eventually I think

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_02]: he has less power to do that like I

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_02]: think that they will come to him and

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_02]: find him at like a six or a seven he's

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_02]: again in the kind of mirror images of

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_02]: each four that's kind of like the car

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_02]: spot for me that he is in and the other

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_02]: people will have the power to take him

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_02]: out but Sam was so on the bottom that

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_02]: he's the one being like I eat my shot

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_02]: in the dark he's been left out of

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_02]: basically two votes in a row um pretty

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_02]: much was until the very very last

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_02]: minute last week as well um and he

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_02]: really does make this happen and I have

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_02]: to give him a lot of credit in like

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_02]: bringing the group together and again

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_02]: it works for all of them so they're

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_02]: going to do it like it's easy to make

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_02]: up with Teenie when Teenie also

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_02]: was self-interested enough to know I

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_02]: should do that and again I credit all

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_02]: four of them but I think Sam was the

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_02]: instigator of a lot of it um Rachel's

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_02]: an interesting one for me because she

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_02]: wants Genevieve um right and I don't

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_02]: agree with her again I think that that

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that they've done very very well here

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_02]: to kind of you know not be a 4-4

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_02]: against fossil too good if if they're

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_02]: going to do that um I also want to

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_08]: see that Rachel's like Genevieve's

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_08]: the only one that's on to me when

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Caroline was the one that was like

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_08]: speaking to the nines about how

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_08]: threatening Genevieve has been as

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_02]: well because this is the thing as

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_02]: well like you know and then they

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_02]: talked about this in Know-It-All's

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_02]: that Andy we kind of get the

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_02]: narrative of Andy being like to

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Rachel Genevieve's on to you and

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: her being like well now I need to get

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve but we know that that is

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_02]: true and valid and Genevieve is a big

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_02]: threat so for Rachel I don't think

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_02]: she's being manipulated um I think it I

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: think it's a valid target I'm not

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_02]: super harsh on it because again it's

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_02]: only a worse target if all of two

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_02]: who stay together at an eight um and

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_02]: you take out Genevieve here which is

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_02]: incredibly unlikely I still think

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_02]: that they did the right thing by

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: going for Gabe and I think it's fine

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_02]: she didn't get her way they all did

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_02]: what was in their best interest it's

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_02]: all fine but for Rachel what I really

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_02]: credit more than than any of kind of

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_02]: that decision um is just that she's

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_02]: very well insulated she she kind of

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_02]: hashes it out with Sam in a way that

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_02]: they reconnect she's a good connector

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_02]: with Andy um and with Sam so I think

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_02]: she's in such a great spot and yeah I

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_02]: think on on edit and game and

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_02]: potential and the idol and the fact

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that she can use it like I really have

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_02]: her now at like the top of my my win

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_08]: potential yeah so I want to go back

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_08]: to the honest statement about teeny

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_08]: because like I could see it and I

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_08]: still think that especially from like

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_08]: a where does the rest of the season

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_08]: go perspective I could absolutely see

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Rachel be able to carve a path

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_08]: especially if she does get out people

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_08]: like Genevieve and Caroline who are

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_08]: more quote-unquote onto her uh before

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_08]: it's too late I I still think there's a

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_08]: chance that teeny takes this though

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_08]: because I'm also looking at the jury

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_08]: and we had Sierra who has said that

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_08]: she really wanted to work with teeny

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_08]: in her end game so obviously thick as

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_08]: thieves with teeny Gabe this week I

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_08]: asked him who were some non-tukus you

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_08]: want to take to the end he says teeny I

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_08]: think that there is a way where and

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_08]: especially if we get to a typical new

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_08]: era scenario where Genevieve Kyle Sam

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Rachel get taken out that teeny can be

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_08]: looked at as somebody who yeah might not

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_08]: have been able to accumulate a lot of

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_08]: power and like firsthand getting rid of

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_08]: people but at the same time we see this

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_08]: time and time again in the survivor jury

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_08]: vote sometimes it just comes down to who

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_08]: you like more and who you want to

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_08]: represent the season and gosh darn it

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_08]: teeny has overcome so much and I always

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_08]: wanted to work with them and teeny never

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_08]: had the opportunity to burn anybody

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_08]: because they have sort of been on the

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_08]: bottom of that and might be able to

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_08]: benefit from that as well so I think

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_08]: especially in a new era season I would

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_08]: not necessarily count teeny out I would

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_08]: probably I would probably put her in

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_08]: second place Andy is obviously a very

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_08]: interesting one to talk about as well

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_08]: because I could see this big he's all

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_08]: that Phoenix rising from the ashes at it

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_08]: being either this guy makes the you know

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_08]: the recovery of a century and is our

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_08]: winner or this is why he becomes the

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_08]: final boss that gets taken out of final

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_08]: four because everyone realizes how many

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_08]: fingers he's had his pots in really

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that's yeah I mean that's a lot I think

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a very big chance and this is my

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_02]: concern with Andy I do think there's a

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_02]: very big chance that he's just the Jake

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_02]: losing finalists like to have him as a

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_02]: winner or necessarily like such a big

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_02]: threat for an angel now who's telling

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_02]: us about that who's telling us he's that

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_02]: biggest threat that those are the options

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Andy and we do get a bit from Rachel to

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_02]: be fair Rachel's in with Andy but my

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_02]: concern and I have to address it because

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm very high on what Andy's done every

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_02]: week and I do think that he has played

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_02]: optimally but I do worry that he's such

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: a non-threat from the beginning or even

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_02]: just in his general perception just

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_02]: consistently that he can't win and that's

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_02]: quite an easy way to play because

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_02]: everyone wants to work with him because

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_02]: everyone can sit next to him and possibly

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_02]: beat him and who and no one's telling

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_02]: us that's not true and my concern is when

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_02]: we get all of these montages I mean Andy

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_02]: has to be the most montage player

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_02]: possibly in survivor history and every

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_02]: week that's all of his content and he is

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_02]: a great narrator but my concern is when

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_02]: he's doing so much he's going to sue and

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_02]: he's going to Kyle and he's even furthering

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_02]: that divide if possible I don't even know

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_02]: but even so you know playing people

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_02]: against each other and he's working with

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_02]: everyone and other than Rachel only hear

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Andy talk about it I need sue to tell me

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_02]: yes I'm so in with with that I mean she

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_02]: hates Kyle but that's I mean that's easy

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: that I need someone to say yes I want to

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_02]: work with at what yeah Andy's really

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_02]: becoming a threat tell someone else has

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_02]: to tell me other than Andy how changed the

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_02]: perception is and no one has and I have

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_02]: to address that because I do think that

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_02]: it's possible he's going towards like

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: this very compelling losing finalist

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_02]: narrative and all of the stuff about

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_02]: the webs and all the analogies is just

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Andy's ironic spin on it if that's the

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_08]: case I think Andy would make Xander look

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_08]: like Troy's and because that's that's

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_08]: that's more that's more Xander right that

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_08]: was like the oh my god we're seeing this

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_08]: guy doing so much so why does he end up

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_08]: with zero votes in the end that would be

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_08]: the path that I would see yeah right I

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_05]: also think that not for nothing his

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_05]: initial impression was really big for the

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_05]: audience okay and if you're out there on

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_05]: the island I'm sure it comes across

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_05]: similarly like the casuals still don't

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_05]: like Andy because of the first week of

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_05]: the season so those are just the John

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Lovett fans chirping in your mention I

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_05]: know exactly so that stuff sticks with you

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_05]: and not for nothing we're being told a

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_05]: certain story but also what's the

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_05]: narrative out there on the island so I

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_05]: think that that you know that obviously

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_05]: has to come into play because I do hear

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_05]: what you're saying Mike and I've

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_05]: definitely had the same thought but I

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_05]: ultimately have to kind of go back to

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_05]: what I'm hearing from the people on the

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_05]: island and as Shannon mentioned I'm not

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_05]: really hearing like oh Andy is the big

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_05]: threat like I'm really sort of looking

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_05]: for who are the people that are sort of

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_05]: the middle threat so not the Genevieve's

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_05]: not the Kyle's the people who are going

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_05]: to be taken out in the next sort of

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_05]: series of votes we are looking at in my

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_05]: opinion the Sam's the Rachel's those

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_05]: are sort of the two people that I'm

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_05]: thinking of potentially and I think Sam

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_05]: to go back to him from earlier he's the

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_05]: one who gets credit for wanting to

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_05]: assemble this army of outcasts like he's

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_05]: the one who gets the confessional

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_05]: talking about it and then of course with

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_05]: the pushing of the votes and also I

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_05]: think he could do well in immunity is

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_05]: once Kyle is gone and potentially sue

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_05]: because he's done consistently well I mean

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_05]: he came in third in this one he's coming

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_01]: like second and third so that now I know

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_01]: we gave him right look out exactly

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_05]: exactly so yeah I think I think there

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_05]: could be an argument there for for Sam

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_05]: as well well I think what might have

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_02]: what I think Sam just gets cut for me

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_02]: like I think he did very very well to

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_02]: better his position but it still is a

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_02]: tougher game just based on the fact that

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that he's someone who gets cut

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_02]: along the way but he's absolutely

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_02]: maximized his position but I mean on edit I

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_02]: still put Andy third because it's it's on

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_02]: win potential I put I have it as Rachel

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_02]: then Teenie then Andy because it's so

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_02]: OTT with Andy but it's just it's all from

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_02]: him and then for Teenie I get a lot from

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_02]: people saying you know well Teenie's always

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_02]: shown to be out of the loop no Teenie's edit

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_02]: is great I mean it is as you said Liana it's

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_02]: quite personal compared to possibly like

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_02]: more strategic but the thing is that's Teenie's

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_02]: story to this point Teenie has been out of the loop

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah like that's what happened they can't

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_02]: make up what happened I mean Australian

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Survivor once did literally hide the vote

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_02]: from us because it was such a hatchet job

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_02]: on what had actually happened that they

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_02]: couldn't actually show us who had voted

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_02]: for who and I think about that sometimes but

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Teenie has not been in the woods this is

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_02]: the story and but it is the Phoenix

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_02]: rising the Teenie's rising from the from

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_02]: the ashes and that's the story so I do

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_02]: think that this is the best they can do

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_02]: with it and it's you're invested you care

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_02]: about Teenie it's a good story you always

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_02]: it's sympathetic it has purpose like a new

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_02]: purpose new phase you know that that's what

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_02]: they got this episode as well so the edit

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_02]: is there the game hasn't been there but

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_02]: we've seen the potential in the story but

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah and then and then in terms of Andy

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_02]: as well I wanted to say it's not just what

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_02]: he did at the very beginning it's consistent

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and we do hear about that a lot Sierra the

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_02]: mayor rest of Ponderosa doesn't just think

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Andy had a meltdown on the first date

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_02]: she's always been very critical of the way

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Andy is we know that Andy the way people

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_02]: see him if anything the the consistent

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_02]: things we've gotten even in exit interviews

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and in confessionals from people even beyond

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_02]: the first episode has been pretty negative

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: of the way that Andy comes across kind of

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_02]: like doddering everywhere they're all just

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_08]: prudes because he happens to do some you know

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_08]: very serious things during challenges

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah yeah so

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_02]: that's the perception that we've heard that's

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_05]: not from Andy I'm thinking of Sierra's

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_05]: boot episode like think about the way Sierra

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_05]: talked about Andy and even Sam was like

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Andy last as always like that's what we're

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_05]: hearing of the perception as early as a couple

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_05]: days ago I mean yeah game time so I do think

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_08]: from from TV's perspective yes the content has

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_08]: been emotional but as they talk about in this

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_08]: very episode like that is their story it's this

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_08]: idea that the game has not gone the way that

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_08]: they expected in multiple ways whether it's

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_08]: divorcing their emotions from their gameplay

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_08]: or obviously the fact that they've lost a

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_08]: couple of close allies and now the barrier

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_08]: between teeny the player and teeny the person

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_08]: has shattered and again what I thought was an

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_08]: absolutely other beautiful sequence I'm glad

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_08]: that survivor gave the time obviously for

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_08]: representation as well for like teeny to speak

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_08]: to where they were in their journey with their

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_08]: gender but I think it shows to me that like

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_08]: teeny can't help but play as themselves and so

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_08]: while positionally that's not optimal it is

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_08]: what do we know about Rachel as a person you

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_08]: know and I think that teeny is sort of like the

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_08]: opposite of that spectrum where teeny is like

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_08]: not a lot of game but a lot of personal content

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Rachel is pretty much the exact opposite

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_05]: maybe teeny wins fire and that's why we saw

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_05]: teeny's bag get lit on fire because when teeny

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_05]: was like this is my you know rising from the

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_05]: ashes or whatever like rebirth maybe maybe

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_05]: fire is important somehow in teeny's narrative

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_05]: there's some fire making thing here

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and Jeff did clarify on on fire that they are

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_08]: not replacing teeny's bag that that is what they

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_08]: are having for the rest of the game which is

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_08]: bananas to me like I love it couldn't they give

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_08]: if you have to earn everything couldn't teeny get

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_08]: like an extra challenge or something could they

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_08]: give up their purse a portion of rice for a new

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_08]: bag from art department Jeff well I mean just

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_02]: negotiate everything right does that that's how

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_02]: we've opened up everything's a negotiation which

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_02]: wouldn't would be interesting it would take up a

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_02]: lot of runtime of like okay I just want to what

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_02]: can I what can I give for this yeah I mean I

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_02]: think yeah I still have teeny really high up I

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_02]: will say that a lot of people like teens getting

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_02]: a Kenzie edit so obvious but then I hear Rachel's

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_02]: getting a Kenzie edit I'm like if everyone's getting

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_02]: a Kenzie edit no one's getting no one's getting

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Kenzie last only one mermaid dragon well and and

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_02]: it was obvious like Kenzie last season was to me

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_02]: so obvious compared to anyone else as a close second

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_02]: whereas here like I'm not like so much like Rachel's

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_02]: gonna win I'm starting to get a little bit

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_02]: cocky in the draft but I think that there's

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_02]: potential I think teeny Andy then I might say like a

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_02]: tie between like Caroline and Sam this is all on game

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and edit combined Sam I think we'll get taken

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_02]: at a point but isn't a good as good as a position as

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_02]: he can be and I do think has the edit Caroline on

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_02]: position I'm a little lower on and in the edit I'm a

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_02]: little bit lower on but like could have possibly the

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_02]: skills I'm concerned about perception I might drop it

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_02]: a five now and then I think yeah Kyle nothing sued

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_02]: definitely not Genevieve maybe a six but Genevieve on edit

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_02]: and I think Genevieve's out next that's kind of how I would order it so

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_02]: there's still options it's not Kenzie but those are the three and can I ask you

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_02]: because you know I listened to your discussion with

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Pridium about Genevieve's move last week I was I was quite high on the move

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_02]: the recovery I wouldn't say it went well

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Genevieve's still in the game but Liana I know that you you kind of endorsed it as

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_02]: well last week didn't leave me alone and kind of defending it how do you feel like this went

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_02]: for Genevieve did it change your views on the move last week well I mean again the thing was is that

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_05]: my my assumption was that there are relationships that we are not seeing so that was my assumption

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_05]: was that we are making this you know oh of course all the lavos are together of course they're

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_05]: all so close but in reality we don't have an idea of what those relationships look like

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_05]: what I think I learned from this week is that one if Genevieve does have relationships with the

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_05]: group of misfits they don't matter for anything or two she never had those relationships to begin

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_05]: with and even to her own explanation I don't want to build relationships with people because I want

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_05]: to be able to cut them so now I'm like well then why did you do this yeah I think for for me we

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_08]: talked about this last week right it was more of an assumption of okay so you're doing this because

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_08]: you surely have a concrete plan set up for what happens next and it seems like maybe the weight of

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_08]: pettiness versus strategy ended up being a bit more imbalanced than maybe we thought uh maybe she had an

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_08]: idea and it just kind of went up in flames like teeny's bag once she saw that teeny had quite the

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_08]: adverse reaction and the fact that now Genevieve was kind of outed partially by Andy as like the one

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_08]: specific architect behind the move but it did make me feel like okay wait so what were you planning to

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_05]: do after this if that was the case she I mean the thing is is like she didn't go okay Gabe whoa she

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_05]: went very close to going I know but Sam also technically was really close to going when that's

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_02]: bad and we should criticize his position on that like that's you know that's that I haven't quite

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_05]: another day so at least she did survive but um but yeah it's uh doesn't look great doesn't look good

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_02]: for our uh girl Genevieve here yeah I mean my assumption was that she would poke her head out

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_02]: but to an equal level or maybe even less than like the Gabes and the Carls but it seems like she was like

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_02]: as much maybe you know she had like obviously this like and she and she she was you know adding to

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_02]: it with like how pressing Tuku are and she was saying Carls such a big friend she's trying to add to that

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_02]: um and maybe you know and I think that you know this has been spoken about Josh Kettles has said as

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_02]: well that knowing that you do it knowing that they're getting to nine where you have to really

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_02]: take out a Tuku for the others and then they do it optimally that makes sense from like a timing

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: perspective and that probably adds to the move but the thing is that's just the one vote and then from

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_02]: a timing perspective they should really take out Genevieve so the threat level was more than I

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_02]: anticipated it being and her recovery from a relationship standpoint wasn't where I needed it to be

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: where I was like she's been that special that even when things have gone at their worst

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_02]: you know she tells Rachel Rachel tells Sam Sam blows it up they come back to her you know she

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: she invests in Rome and blows up the whole her whole group takes out Kishan to keep Rome Rome becomes

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: untenable immediately has to lose him she's still pulling the strings now I was like at its worst

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: she'll still be okay but that's not what happened the recovery I said last week her whole game is a

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_02]: multi-part move it's about making the move being able to recover from a relationship standpoint and

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe she underestimated or overestimated those relationships underestimated how self-interested

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: the players would be who would not just be like you know the Andes being like yeah sure

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_02]: um or teeny maybe even coming back I feel like she thought that was out but the relationships weren't

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_02]: where they needed to be because you can't be Kim Spradlin in the new era and she's not

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Kim Spradlin here I unfortunately to say she has not been Kim Spradlin so at that point it was probably

[01:03:09] [SPEAKER_02]: a little bit too it was it was too audacious and even on the island they were agreeing they were like

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: it was too early I'm like we decide what was too early but yes it was too early I agree

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_08]: we decide what's too early listen Kim Spradlin would never uh be able to mug to the cameras as

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_08]: delightfully as Genevieve did so I don't want her to be Kim Spradlin I want her to be the messy queen

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_08]: that she is uh I do before we move into our typical b&b fair we gotta talk about the shot in the dark

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_08]: exchange this is this is pretty wild I mean think about the fact that in the post-merge of survivor 47

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_08]: like we brought back the auction any of the newfangled advantages including the ambulance were

[01:03:48] [SPEAKER_08]: like immediately expended they had no effect on the game and now this thing that was introduced from

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_08]: the first episode of the new era that guarantees everyone pretty much a one-sixth chance of

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_08]: immunity is now gone from the final eight onwards survivor 47 from a structure perspective might be

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_08]: like the most old school season because all the stuff they keep removing from it Liana talk about

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_08]: how to Shannon's point they ended up making this a negotiation all over again by coming out of left

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_05]: field with this this on the table well to me it's about the cast rejecting these things like that

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_05]: thank you that's the best part I love what Jeff is so upset because in Jeff's mind he places a certain

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_05]: level of value on the shot in the dark whereas the cast looks at the shot in the dark and says yeah no like

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_05]: sure yeah like Rachel literally use it as is this anything yeah exactly like we're willing to get rid of

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_05]: this like we don't want this you know like we don't see this as valuable and for me it's Jeff's just pure

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_05]: shock that you know both with the amulets with the shot in the dark with everything about like but why you

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_05]: know clutching his pearls like this is not the most valuable thing that he's given them yeah I do think

[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_02]: that Jeff has gotten hosed a lot this season the eggs I said as well he got hosed I think yeah

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_02]: technically he got hosed but I will say to me it kind of amounts to a win win for everyone but yeah

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_02]: for the players I mean I spoke about this a bit on Twitter but everyone giving up their shot in the

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_02]: dark isn't bad for anyone because firstly you're giving it up but so are seven other opponents I mean

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_02]: for Rachel eight opponents and you're like she obviously a huge win which is interesting because yeah

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Jeff's original negotiation right it's like well half of you have to sit out and so that becomes the

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_08]: big battle of like well some of us are being disadvantaged well otherwise have the advantage of

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_08]: competing for immunity that's all completely wiped clean at this point everyone except for Rachel's on

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_02]: equal footing yeah like I mean if it were going to be like okay four of you sit out so someone's

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_02]: going to win immunity and have even a better chance of winning immunity and then they'd have an

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: asterisk right because if not everyone would be playing well the new era really screws with

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: immunity challenges um but yeah if it was going to be that or there's just no immunity challenge and

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: no one will win you'd still prefer the second it's better for everyone to lose something anyway

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_02]: that even you know it sounds like well you're all giving up you know so it's more it's actually for

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_02]: everyone a more even thing and especially with the shot in the dark because the shot in the dark

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_02]: more than anything the reason if half of them had to give it up you'd be like well if it's me versus

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_02]: them they might go for me because I have less protection I'm a more vulnerable target it would kind of

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_02]: upset the balance of the tribe but for everyone losing it they're all in the same footing

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_02]: it just is the old era um and even like if you're on the if you're not on the bottom then okay great

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: now we have to like blindside less possibly or we don't have to split as much like it's easier

[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: even game speak for that ironically before going but even if you're on the bottom it's hit one time

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a one in six times and you have to give up your vote it's just like such an easy thing to give

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_02]: so for the tribe it makes so much sense but even for Jeff while I do think like okay you just lost

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_02]: your own advantage um and like they gained so much he said on the on fire podcast and I was reading this

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_02]: um in entertainment weekly that like it was a moment and he probably like won't do it again so

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I think production also kind of do one out because they get something for us to talk about it was an

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_02]: interesting moment and it was like a unique thing that had happened so from a production standpoint

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_02]: that probably will create more entertainment even just getting confessionals of people being like I

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: wish I had my shot in the dark the juice was probably worth the squeeze beyond who's gonna use it and hit it

[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_02]: for the second time ever in the next two episodes like that probably wouldn't happen anyway so I think

[01:07:22] [SPEAKER_02]: they got the entertainment that they needed and kind of everyone comes out of it fine yeah I mean I

[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_08]: think for for all Jeff was espousing and what was talked about maybe a bit at tribal council by Andy

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_08]: about like oh well this means that there will be less blind sides I don't know I think the show did

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_08]: pretty well for 40 seasons where you didn't necessarily have this they were more than happy

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_02]: this invented the blind side Mike I don't know what you're talking about even like the Sandra Bullock of

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_08]: advantages exactly well even look at something uh Crowley like having its own blind sides uh what

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_08]: about like even look at the Rome vote for instance where like Saul does not throw a vote on to Andy

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_08]: because of shot in the dark it was because he thought he had an idol and what's interesting is

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_08]: talking with all these players the reasons why they're not playing the shot in the dark most of

[01:08:03] [SPEAKER_08]: the time in the post-merge especially is because they feel like the numbers are super tight oh it's

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_08]: gonna be you know uh Saul last week thought okay it might be like six to four and so if I give away my

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_08]: vote then that's something that could impact things and so it feels like people aren't using it anyway

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_08]: with the exception of what Rachel does outside of people who know they're doomed and yes while you do

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_08]: get Caleb's once in a lifetime miracle Hail Mary going off on the other side of that is the very next season

[01:08:30] [SPEAKER_08]: where Mariah plays it and it doesn't hit and she gets you know pretty unanimously unceremoniously

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_08]: voted out so well I did not have a problem with the shot in the dark I think it is one of the more

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_08]: salient elements of the new era I am more than fine to be without it and I doubt especially with

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_08]: this cast it is going to change the behavior of them whatsoever I think Gabe literally said your

[01:08:53] [SPEAKER_05]: vote is worth more because that's the thing too with giving up the shot in the dark it's not like

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_05]: you're giving up an idol that just implicitly has power you cannot vote if you play your shot in the

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_05]: dark so you I mean you have to then give up something also very valuable to even have the

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_05]: advantage in the first place if you would even call it an advantage so yeah I mean it was a no-brainer

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_08]: it totally made sense not to mention as well you can't play the shot in the dark if you don't have

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_08]: a vote and considering how much especially these new era seasons love to take votes from people

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_08]: then it's like well then it's just like occupying dust in my bag before it ends up being lit aflame

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't need this yeah and also the shot in the dark is less valuable than we even thought with the

[01:09:34] [SPEAKER_02]: re-vote rules changing that's that's an important thing as well because it used to be if you had a

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_02]: one person majority say three to two and we all it could have been anyway with solar I think say five

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: to four then you play a shot in the dark you're a target but on you win on the re-vote four to three

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_02]: but now you know you're not having a vote the other person would would still vote so it'd be four to

[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_02]: four so actually the shot in the dark is even less valuable than we've always thought it because

[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_02]: that's been one of the major loopholes to try and use the shot in the dark in the past so

[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah there's not a lot here I will say that um I said this on twitter Gabe Jeff crediting Gabe over

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and over again looks like Gabe convinced you Sam's like well I can't be the one person to yeah like

[01:10:13] [SPEAKER_02]: the amount of social capital I would lose from doing that a shot in the dark wouldn't even remotely

[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_08]: cover it was so fair and valid this is not Shireen and Will Sims Sam does not hate Gabe with all of

[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_08]: his guts to be like no Gabe because of you I will not we will get no rice Gabe's arguments weren't

[01:10:31] [SPEAKER_02]: weren't even hitting for Sam he was like you need your vote he's like no one's been taking my vote

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_02]: he was like rice in the challenge Sam doesn't respond he's like well I can't take rice from

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_02]: everyone else and and Jeff is like look at Gabe he has mind control power yeah Gabe's like

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_08]: didn't Gabe literally tell Sam like well you're still here you're doing something right and it's

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_05]: like Sam was like not even listening to Gabe yeah oh yeah no you could tell I still my favorite

[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_05]: though was Sam's reaction to Jeff just being like sure sure whatever yeah and then Jeff doesn't be

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: like yeah it seems like that's probably wrong at tribal again he's like let's talk about Gabe and

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_08]: his freaking mind control powers yeah like Sam you were persuaded by Gabe for this to happen I will

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_08]: say also though speaking of uh perhaps some some misappropriated credit here yes Kyle was the one

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_08]: to get this over the line but I gotta for an episode that wasn't really high on Caroline this was far and

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_08]: away the best thing she did in this episode for those who don't remember the the whole exchange

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_08]: because we'll talk about it a bit later was that Jeff suggested for Gabe despite this being an

[01:11:31] [SPEAKER_08]: immutable number does suggest three and Jeff says no dice and it's meant to be a negotiation

[01:11:39] [SPEAKER_08]: how about if two of us give our shot in the dark which I don't know would she convince Sue does that

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_08]: show their relationship that you'd be like okay so we're both sitting out of this challenge together

[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_08]: and then Kyle's like this is ridiculous but I'll just say it we're all thinking it what if we all give

[01:11:52] [SPEAKER_08]: away our shot in the dark and Jeff's like oh what so I Caroline is the one that much like she did in

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_05]: many votes before this one really get the ball rolling which to me is so funny because the offer

[01:12:05] [SPEAKER_05]: of two shots in the dark versus all the shots in the dark which one is more interesting it's so much

[01:12:12] [SPEAKER_05]: more interesting for them to have to decide who's gonna have to give up their shot in the dark so Jeff

[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_05]: should have said I'll negotiate with you five shots in the dark and then they have to decide

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_08]: because that's so much better I mean the shots in the dark could have become the new fire tokens it

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_02]: could have become a currency that you would have been because then it becomes Gabe or Genevieve oh

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_02]: well Gabe has a shot in the dark he might play so Genevieve is now a more open target then it

[01:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: upsets the balance of the tribe it would have been funny though they're like we'll all want to give

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_02]: it to you he's like no no no some of you have to keep it yes but actually from a TV moment it actually

[01:12:45] [SPEAKER_02]: would have it would have made more and would have made better TV because then it would have been

[01:12:49] [SPEAKER_02]: oh you actually are going because you don't have shot in the dark because it makes you a target

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_02]: not just that you can't play there's like one in six Hail Mary chance like now it's actually made

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_02]: you vulnerable and we have to choose who does it that's interesting everyone doing it is way even

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: the interesting thing was obviously Rachel finally getting her free rice but um but the rest of it yeah

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that would have been so funny if they're like all of us he's like no no some of you have to keep it

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_02]: so that so that some of you are disadvantaged more than others because if everyone does it it's like

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_02]: no one doing it it's like that if everyone has to cancel the edit so yeah if he was like okay no

[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_02]: three of you have to keep it you choose you have and they're like I guess I'll keep my freaking shot

[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah it's like it's like eating your vegetables like you have to do this I mean it's so interesting

[01:13:28] [SPEAKER_08]: because so I went to the first tribal council of survivor 46 and Jelinski joked while they were there

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_08]: like uh we're shouldn't we all play our shots in the dark wouldn't that be funny and for some reason

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_08]: the one ridiculous thing to not happen in survivor 46 happened in survivor 47 where essentially

[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_08]: everyone played their shots in the dark by giving them away yeah what would happen if everybody played

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_05]: their shot in the dark like at tribal like if a whole tribe all everyone played their shot in the

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_02]: zero votes cast what happened they didn't plan for this did they they should have a plan for everything

[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_02]: what a prisoner i think i think i think yeah that was crazy i think it's just multi-person fire

[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_08]: challenge yeah i think it's i think it's jeff going for the best tv moment in the moment of maybe he

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: restores maybe he restores their votes when he restores their votes no that's yeah he's like all

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_05]: right we now you're making them make fire okay wait or the people who hit the luck correctly so

[01:14:24] [SPEAKER_05]: theoretically one in six they're the ones who gets to they get to vote then for the non

[01:14:28] [SPEAKER_08]: they're safe and everyone else makes but what if nobody hits because i do believe that once you

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_08]: draw the scroll then a new scroll is replaced back in the bag right well it depends if it was like a

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_02]: five person tribal council yeah then there's usually six scrolls so you could not get the one safe scroll

[01:14:47] [SPEAKER_02]: it'd be so stupid it would be so dumb but yeah i think that there's two if there's more than six

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and there's one if there's six and under that's wikipedia says but why are we even in this position

[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_02]: where we have to talk about this yeah anyway we don't need to anymore that's the thing it's done

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_02]: well yeah and thank you to thank you to but i do think that that is very very funny between the amulet

[01:15:10] [SPEAKER_02]: between not extending the wear advantages like they're like i want i want back in time okay and i get

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_08]: to decide which is so interesting because we're coming off of survivor 46 where i think they would

[01:15:21] [SPEAKER_08]: have expected the exact opposite behavior of like great i got these idols i'm gonna play them now

[01:15:25] [SPEAKER_08]: nobody did last time but now it's like oh this thing is really way it actually tracks though it

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: tracks from a pre-season interviews mike where i felt like they were all like very well on journeys

[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_08]: and yeah rachel's hot take was that uh newer advantages actually are a disadvantage and he said

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_08]: that the hidden immune denial is the most overrated thing in survivor history queshawn never wanted to go

[01:15:47] [SPEAKER_08]: on a journey yeah it seems like like we have very brave players in certain areas of the game but not

[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_08]: in other areas and those who were brave in certain areas like your daves like your roams were so

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_08]: out front about everything that they had to use it up basically because they're like well shit i'm not

[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: being very secretive about this thing that i have yeah wow that was crazy they just all gave up the shot

[01:16:07] [SPEAKER_02]: in the dark and jeff's like wow oh my god but yeah this was interesting from it was interesting

[01:16:13] [SPEAKER_02]: from caroline to come up with the idea to like we have these things we don't care about they all had

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_02]: this shot in the dark there i mean you should always keep your stuff as we've seen once you get

[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_02]: sent to another beach yeah exactly but they were all just like we haven't actually here ready to go we

[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_08]: can't wait to give this to you now here's the thing we saw andy lose his shot in the dark like misplace

[01:16:33] [SPEAKER_08]: it as we know people bring their bags to challenges if teeny had all of their stuff with them and they got

[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_08]: up to leave you know head back to camp we'll see you tonight at tribal and the shot in the dark falls

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_08]: out on the challenge site would they get a new one or is that lost they wouldn't i don't think i

[01:16:52] [SPEAKER_02]: don't think so they're certainly not getting a new shot in the dark exactly exactly because petty

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_02]: inconvenience is a very big part of the new era yep yeah exactly and petty inconvenience

[01:17:06] [SPEAKER_08]: the equivalent of not being able to find your keys yeah it's fun literally that is the new era so

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_02]: it's like they would have been like wow td lost a shot in the dark in the challenge now they can't get

[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_08]: it back no you could do this this is the casting brief like jeff walks over like uh well listen you

[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_08]: don't want to lose out on a good time playing survivor like td lost their shot in the dark and he

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_02]: holds it up to the camera like apply to be on survivor literally that yeah this is the monster

[01:17:37] [SPEAKER_05]: the monster of irritation that is it those jeff promos always make me laugh my favorite one is

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_05]: the one where he put himself inside the the one where they had to compete where gabe won and they

[01:17:50] [SPEAKER_05]: were inside the thing with the he's like if you want this and he's like putting himself inside the

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_05]: little box or the the pinky finger with the peanut butter like those make oh my gosh those are so funny

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_08]: nothing nothing in australia yeah no oh really with them i see them i mean that makes sense a different

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_08]: way but i mean in my opinion though nothing can beat post applebee's meltdown ah well survivor's

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_05]: tough that's fair that's fair yeah you guys should um you should do a game on that you should do a b&b

[01:18:23] [SPEAKER_02]: game on the real or fake jeff promos because there's someone he's and people won't remember

[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and you can make some up that's a really good game oh i like this i like that we'll put this

[01:18:34] [SPEAKER_08]: let's start moving into our traditional b&b stuff and let's talk about the man of the hour and a half

[01:18:39] [SPEAKER_08]: here in the form of gabe so gabe talked a lot of uh about highly of his uh soon to be position

[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_08]: in my preseason interview uh quintupled on that when the first thing we hear from him let alone in the

[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_08]: season is that he wants to be on the new era mount rushmore okay but also when he got voted out did he

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_08]: say i'll be back oh like the terminator but he doubled down on it in his final words by being like yeah

[01:19:06] [SPEAKER_08]: this isn't the last you'll see of me okay gabe yeah he really the shot well you know good for him

[01:19:12] [SPEAKER_05]: i threw it away shot a shot in the dark uh well so leon that was his one shot that he still had

[01:19:16] [SPEAKER_08]: how did you think this was going to play into what happened with gabe on the island was this the makings

[01:19:22] [SPEAKER_08]: of a future mount rushmore player or someone who would burn out early okay so yeah uh look i i was

[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_05]: willing to believe in the gabe fantasy of it all i did have gabe making the finale so i said that gabe

[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_05]: came into this game shot out of a cannon and rode that momentum all the way to the final three

[01:19:43] [SPEAKER_05]: exactly with his bff tiana when he wins fire at final four gabe goes into the final tribal council

[01:19:52] [SPEAKER_05]: with all the confidence which gets shattered when he receives zero votes due to his flashy antics

[01:19:58] [SPEAKER_05]: and emulation of russell hans which rubbed people the wrong way gabe managed to make several enemies

[01:20:04] [SPEAKER_05]: included but not limited to saul rome asia teeny and sue in an attempt to carefully manage his image

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_05]: on the island he comes across as a highly calculated and not relatable person so naturally the facebook

[01:20:19] [SPEAKER_05]: casuals are not a fan his ally was tiana and his enemies were teeny and asia but also not limited to

[01:20:26] [SPEAKER_08]: saul rome and sue it's like the postscript on like a ad for a prescription medication i know another

[01:20:33] [SPEAKER_02]: thing we don't get in australia you guys love your medical ads though i mean sometimes we need

[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_02]: medicine sometimes we need medicine to get through daily existence as a part of american television

[01:20:45] [SPEAKER_08]: that's just it's not true here it really is uh so i did not have as bright prospects for one mr ortiz

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_08]: i did have him going pre-jury so uh not the complete opposite of liana's predictions but we'll get into

[01:20:59] [SPEAKER_08]: it so i said true to gabe's interesting analysis of russell hans he becomes a devout hansist once he

[01:21:07] [SPEAKER_08]: hits camp not only does he find the first idol of the season he's not being elusive at all about his

[01:21:13] [SPEAKER_08]: searching but he also forms his own motley group of women with sue caroline and tiana oh man despite

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_08]: him doubling down on the lie that he's a bar back the opposition will take note of how eloquent he is

[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_08]: and assume he's hiding something when gabe scores a critical challenge win for tuku single-handedly

[01:21:31] [SPEAKER_08]: he'll do a touchdown dance in honor of his problematic fave ray lewis no no no no you didn't say that

[01:21:39] [SPEAKER_08]: you didn't write that i want the date you didn't say that i mean it's the google docs got the backlog

[01:21:46] [SPEAKER_05]: here you know where is the edit history yeah i need to see the day i want a screenshot this isn't fair

[01:21:52] [SPEAKER_08]: uh when with tuku facing the first vote gabe plays the idol on sue figuring she's an easy vote and

[01:21:59] [SPEAKER_08]: wanting to make a big move on tk unfortunately gabe has no idea that sue and tiana okay you did not

[01:22:05] [SPEAKER_08]: have flipped over to the other guys and he's taken out instead despite a pre-merge finish gabe insists in

[01:22:10] [SPEAKER_08]: his final words and exit press that he'll return i said i'll be on the mount rushmore of the new era

[01:22:15] [SPEAKER_08]: and i need some more time with the chisel for these chiseled good looks you did not ally was sue and

[01:22:21] [SPEAKER_02]: his enemy was tk i mean no no no no give me the edit history that's beyond that's bizarre that is

[01:22:27] [SPEAKER_02]: that's freaky that's really freaky mike that genuinely like okay the pre-merge thing like

[01:22:33] [SPEAKER_02]: with the one they didn't go back to another tribal council after the one you predicted

[01:22:37] [SPEAKER_02]: almost completely other than the fact that you said he played the idol on sue which i think actually

[01:22:41] [SPEAKER_02]: gabe in the exits did defend really well because at the time i was like you just played on sue um he

[01:22:46] [SPEAKER_02]: knows who was going he was like i want to hide my relationship with sue and they and to be fair

[01:22:50] [SPEAKER_02]: they did that very well he said that was one of the things he was proud of in the game and i do

[01:22:54] [SPEAKER_02]: think the fact that like tk and even tiana weeks later comes out not knowing that sue and gabe was

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_02]: so close was very impressive so i think he did that very well other than that you predicted that

[01:23:02] [SPEAKER_02]: whole tribal council against tk with the right vote yeah playing finding the idol being found

[01:23:06] [SPEAKER_02]: finding the idol playing the idol uh what that and then saying he'll be back when he leaves

[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_05]: i'm like did he in the interview tell you he's like yeah i'm planning on doing the ray lewis

[01:23:21] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah yeah sorry this is where uh i ended up cutting about 20 minutes out where gabe's like all right this

[01:23:26] [SPEAKER_08]: is what i'm gonna do from the first day until the last night i know every i know everybody's names

[01:23:29] [SPEAKER_02]: so i'm gonna tell you and i'm also telling exactly what they'll do i know exactly who i'm gonna tribe

[01:23:34] [SPEAKER_05]: with what yeah exactly yeah that's freaky okay well that's an easy decision for you shannon i'm sure

[01:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: but um it was that's weird easy like because it told the future so

[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_05]: ooh maybe that mike that's your fallback plan you can become a psychic i'd be the best psychic ever

[01:23:56] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah is this the best ever i think that might be the best i mean it's funny because obviously

[01:24:03] [SPEAKER_05]: he made the so the placement was wrong but the actual text of the prediction was

[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_05]: freakily accurate like actually terrifying so did you again did you want to think about convincing sam

[01:24:17] [SPEAKER_08]: to give up his shot in the dark oh you know what actually there's a little bit of a smudge here

[01:24:21] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah this is sam probably didn't convince him actually i'm giving up his shot in the dark

[01:24:26] [SPEAKER_08]: so that was oh wait there's a little bit of a inkblot here oh pps he didn't actually do it but

[01:24:31] [SPEAKER_05]: jeff will claim that he did in tribal council right aster oh another asterix yeah much like

[01:24:37] [SPEAKER_05]: much like kyle's immunity yeah okay well that's weird i don't know that was crazy

[01:24:43] [SPEAKER_08]: i will get cautioned at like this this will not be replicable okay people like you've done like 48

[01:24:50] [SPEAKER_08]: i am not i i'm not gonna be nostradamus here i'm gonna miss much more than i hit much like the legacy

[01:24:57] [SPEAKER_08]: of the shot in the dark this is the caleb okay this is the one time i'm like it really paid off

[01:25:01] [SPEAKER_02]: but it's fine because you don't need more like that's so impressive in its own right whatever mike

[01:25:06] [SPEAKER_02]: is spoiled you heard it here first yeah no there's no other explanation but on only gabe

[01:25:11] [SPEAKER_08]: specifically like no one else just yeah listen i seek out very specific alleyways in my spoil like

[01:25:18] [SPEAKER_01]: i go to one contestant and i say no one would ever believe and i just went to you oh my well well

[01:25:25] [SPEAKER_03]: well deserved point mike because thank you god yeah well let me cede the spotlight over to

[01:25:32] [SPEAKER_08]: the two of you and look we've done a lot of talking we've heard a lot of odd words around

[01:25:38] [SPEAKER_08]: let's continue the trend shall we we're gonna do some mad libs here around some choice jeff probst

[01:25:46] [SPEAKER_08]: moments that happened in this episode so got a couple of prompts here that we can go through

[01:25:53] [SPEAKER_08]: as per usual i'll each give you sort of responses to fill in and i'll use them to make jeff's odd phrases

[01:26:00] [SPEAKER_08]: even otter let's go to our first one here liana give me a number oh um okay um 3.796

[01:26:12] [SPEAKER_08]: okay down to the was that thousandth place yes come through science shannon give me another number

[01:26:20] [SPEAKER_02]: 16.66666 but that doesn't matter anymore but in case it did that's the shone the dark

[01:26:26] [SPEAKER_02]: odds that voce once made jeff go wow about yeah voce's rolling in his grave right now of like oh

[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_02]: my god what's my math was for nothing i think he's i think he's he's probably watching he's fine he's

[01:26:38] [SPEAKER_08]: probably doing surgery busy uh liana give me a school subject oh uh can i say recess of course you can

[01:26:49] [SPEAKER_08]: my son's favorite subject right now oh shannon give me a verb in the past tense you mean like okay

[01:26:59] [SPEAKER_08]: with like ending in ed yeah yeah or d um i can't think of words why is this so hot um 45 okay danced

[01:27:11] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah that's great yeah uh liana give me a body part oh um your okay the your toenail but

[01:27:19] [SPEAKER_08]: specifically the middle one middle tonia but i love liana and i i now you're not gonna do it

[01:27:24] [SPEAKER_08]: because i called it out is that you seem genuinely surprised every time i go to you well no it's not

[01:27:30] [SPEAKER_05]: because you're going to me it's because i'm expecting like a noun or an adjective and so far

[01:27:34] [SPEAKER_05]: i've gotten number school subject and body part so that's exciting the trend shall continue shannon

[01:27:40] [SPEAKER_02]: give me another body part okay um why can't i think of words i'm gonna go with faith

[01:27:50] [SPEAKER_03]: okay okay i'm looking at my own face couch like i'm literally just looking that's what i know i

[01:27:56] [SPEAKER_05]: know i'm like water bottle liana give me a verb oh okay a verb um uh to staple staple okay shannon

[01:28:06] [SPEAKER_08]: give me an object couch okay liana give me a noun um you know those billy bass fish the one that

[01:28:20] [SPEAKER_05]: would sing and do the that one that that thing oh what a staple was did that make its way to australia

[01:28:25] [SPEAKER_02]: shannon this was like a hallmark of the 90s yeah um i you maybe i was in south africa in the 90s

[01:28:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and yeah i guess so i think i've seen it was like a singing fish yes it's like the original wand

[01:28:39] [SPEAKER_02]: off uh all right i just want to point out that earlier in this podcast michael's looking at me

[01:28:43] [SPEAKER_02]: like i'm crazy i reserve the right to look at you like you're crazy you do that on a daily occurrence

[01:28:49] [SPEAKER_05]: and i am right now all right well i thought the line of okay there was a line of logic okay so i

[01:28:54] [SPEAKER_05]: thought it's getting into christmas times and then i thought about a singing santa and then i thought

[01:28:59] [SPEAKER_05]: about other singing things and then i thought about a singing fish so there was there was a thought

[01:29:04] [SPEAKER_08]: process okay all right shannon an adjective there's no adjectives in this room unfortunately

[01:29:13] [SPEAKER_08]: um describe the microphone right now exactly special special okay liana give me another adjective

[01:29:23] [SPEAKER_08]: yes um prickly prickly shannon give me an animal cat and that one's easy okay liana give me a food

[01:29:35] [SPEAKER_05]: oh i was thinking of animals i will go with okay i really want to say cookies and cream but i don't

[01:29:44] [SPEAKER_05]: want to do that because i think that's what it's gonna be and that's what it was so instead i will go

[01:29:51] [SPEAKER_05]: with burnt popcorn okay shannon give me another food there's no food in this room oh tea that work

[01:30:02] [SPEAKER_05]: there's tea my old tea shannon i mean uh liana give me a liquid oh a liquid slime like the nickelodeon

[01:30:11] [SPEAKER_08]: slime there we go there we go uh all right and then shannon give me a food there's no second food in

[01:30:18] [SPEAKER_05]: this room um pizza okay and liana give me one more food to finish it off oh okay one more food i will go

[01:30:30] [SPEAKER_08]: with marshmallow fluff okay and actually shannon sorry i lied there's one more a verb ending in ing

[01:30:41] [SPEAKER_02]: singing i was gonna go dancing okay yeah you did dancing dancing too much all right this is not loose

[01:30:48] [SPEAKER_08]: no dancing so here is jeff probst narration as he welcomed the survivor 47 contestants in to the

[01:30:56] [SPEAKER_02]: reward challenge i'm kind of shocked you went with this i mean it makes sense based on what all the

[01:31:01] [SPEAKER_02]: categories were but like i thought we were going like heavy balls

[01:31:05] [SPEAKER_08]: i go heavy balls every day jeff did say grab your balls which i said balls a lot so i just did all

[01:31:11] [SPEAKER_08]: right here we go final 3.796 which makes me very nervous about what happened to the rest of that

[01:31:19] [SPEAKER_08]: person i was gonna say who's about to lose a limb 16.6666 seasons let me do some quick recess

[01:31:28] [SPEAKER_08]: carry the one that's a lot that's a lot of seasons of survivor i i mean wait hold on 6.66

[01:31:36] [SPEAKER_05]: 16.66 are we two-thirds of the way through the season more oh probably more um no i'd say we

[01:31:42] [SPEAKER_08]: have about we have about a month left or now we found out we have about okay five episodes left

[01:31:47] [SPEAKER_08]: okay all right i like that okay sorry that's not really what he was saying though all right well

[01:31:51] [SPEAKER_08]: let's get to today's reward challenge for today's challenge you're gonna be randomly danced

[01:31:57] [SPEAKER_08]: into three teams of three each player will have their middle toenail tied together their arms tied

[01:32:04] [SPEAKER_08]: to their face you're going to staple through the sand as you move a couch with your head that sounds

[01:32:11] [SPEAKER_02]: hard that sounds like they've done before with like the you know with the heavy weights like the snake

[01:32:16] [SPEAKER_02]: challenge especially you have arms tied to your head yeah that actually would work that sounds like a

[01:32:22] [SPEAKER_08]: good challenge once you're once you're at the finish each player is responsible for rolling one couch

[01:32:27] [SPEAKER_08]: onto their singing fish the first three to finish win reward want to know what you're playing for

[01:32:33] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah the winning three will be taken to the sanctuary where special things happen

[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_08]: oh for an afternoon of prickly food you'll have wraps veggie and cat

[01:32:46] [SPEAKER_02]: oh no why did you say animal why would you do that to me no that's really not gonna work well

[01:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: with the charity i'm gonna give at the end of the chicken's an animal you heard it here for

[01:32:57] [SPEAKER_02]: is shannon's pro eating cat i wasn't gonna say chicken i'm a vegetarian why didn't you just say food

[01:33:04] [SPEAKER_02]: why would you make me say an animal that's so so unfair this is like when they made carl eat meat

[01:33:08] [SPEAKER_08]: that's what you just did to me you're sitting there like oh i could eat these cat wraps i'm

[01:33:14] [SPEAKER_02]: really tempted to yeah i was so excited to say cat too i was like cat and then you made me eat them

[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_08]: you'll have wraps veggie and cat you'll have burnt popcorn oh you'll have tea you'll have juices

[01:33:27] [SPEAKER_08]: you'll have ice slime and for dessert cake juicer sounded so weird but that was actually what he said

[01:33:35] [SPEAKER_08]: right yeah why that's not so odd to me you want to know what kind of cake oh cat pizza and marshmallow

[01:33:43] [SPEAKER_08]: fluff could be worth worth singing for

[01:33:48] [SPEAKER_05]: it is worth singing for it's i i want to give my charity now

[01:33:55] [SPEAKER_05]: it's like just a cover for the pr of it all yeah i was really mad i don't i don't need the out of

[01:34:01] [SPEAKER_02]: context account saying that i approve eating cats okay i think that's already been a pretty big

[01:34:06] [SPEAKER_02]: political stuff for you guys so i'm trying not to yeah the eating cats do you think that person who

[01:34:11] [SPEAKER_08]: unfortunately has lost 0.204 of themselves is there they're gonna have an easier or harder time

[01:34:17] [SPEAKER_05]: pushing that couch did they lose an arm or a leg do you think i don't know is it i guess it's based on

[01:34:23] [SPEAKER_02]: that's like 20 of yourself would an arm you assume it's arm or leg i mean that's that's like a best

[01:34:30] [SPEAKER_05]: case scenario well i'm sort of assuming that they're content they're allowed to continue to compete so i

[01:34:36] [SPEAKER_05]: feel like any sort of vital organs but it's certainly it's like missy and san juan del sor like it's not

[01:34:40] [SPEAKER_08]: advisable but like you could do it theoretically yeah they weren't like beheaded right exactly yes

[01:34:46] [SPEAKER_02]: it didn't go in the way of like you know a third of the six queens back to six by the way

[01:34:54] [SPEAKER_03]: hmm yeah i think it's gonna be they got beheaded two of them so that would be yeah all right well that

[01:35:02] [SPEAKER_08]: was certainly a reward worth singing for what was the number uh in terms of what the three point yeah

[01:35:09] [SPEAKER_08]: seven nine six yeah so yeah this is a final immunity challenge it's just that one person's a little worse

[01:35:15] [SPEAKER_05]: for wear or maybe all of them like lost their toes or something you know that's a really good point

[01:35:22] [SPEAKER_08]: you know what it could have been once upon a time i can't remember who but they said that they'd like

[01:35:28] [SPEAKER_08]: cut off their finger if you remember that to like not be a tribal council maybe they've actually took

[01:35:34] [SPEAKER_02]: them up on that offer well i know kathy said she kathy slechtman said and then who said they were

[01:35:40] [SPEAKER_02]: gonna cut off their finger someone it was an analogy said they would cut off their finger if it meant

[01:35:46] [SPEAKER_02]: they wouldn't be a tribal council right it was it was like early new era damn all of the stuff just

[01:35:51] [SPEAKER_02]: exists in my brain just not being helpful and i don't even remember who it was well now while i'm

[01:35:56] [SPEAKER_02]: googling cut off finger no don't do that survivor cut off finger it was it was an analogy it was yeah but

[01:36:05] [SPEAKER_02]: hopefully yeah they all just lost like a small toe yeah i think that's probably because it doesn't i

[01:36:10] [SPEAKER_05]: mean three point whatever i said seven something right that doesn't necessarily imply three people

[01:36:14] [SPEAKER_05]: intact people and then one person it's it just in summation there are that many players left

[01:36:20] [SPEAKER_02]: so this is a good this has been enjoyable to think about yeah if they all lost like all van gode it

[01:36:26] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah they all van gode it and maybe instead of having to get their shot in the dark they just all

[01:36:30] [SPEAKER_05]: have to give up in here yeah that's a jeff will take a finger first off that's amazing second i did

[01:36:37] [SPEAKER_08]: look up what it was it was swathy yeah okay of survivor 42 yeah quote if i could cut off a finger

[01:36:44] [SPEAKER_08]: tonight and not go to tribal council i would and then she says after day seven or eight she would

[01:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: stop cutting off digits what and what else did you get on google what did you google to get that

[01:36:53] [SPEAKER_01]: i just googled my notes oh it was your notes i thought you googled it because i was like okay that

[01:36:58] [SPEAKER_01]: could be horrifying okay your notes are so well organized that's amazing that you could find that

[01:37:03] [SPEAKER_02]: so quickly i can't even find my cloud baby that's incredible wow you are so organized i don't have

[01:37:09] [SPEAKER_08]: that that's right next to uh the cookies and cream compliment is the highest thing you could ever pay me

[01:37:13] [SPEAKER_02]: wait all of your notes ever are all in the cloud in uh since since i started covering the show

[01:37:21] [SPEAKER_08]: in season 35 yes i pay money for that dossier of notes one dollar guys all over two for free

[01:37:28] [SPEAKER_02]: one dollar okay thank you that's not our negotiations work what are you jeff

[01:37:33] [SPEAKER_08]: you give me what if we what if we all offer our survivor

[01:37:36] [SPEAKER_02]: and then it's all even i'm none of us have mine mine is not saves is like 46 to survivor 48 or

[01:37:47] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever like my my notes are never it's so bad it's so bad and i never improved on it

[01:37:51] [SPEAKER_08]: all right well let's continue on with the mad libs here and this is going to be a much

[01:37:55] [SPEAKER_08]: longer one so get those brain that sounds like a threat bring many more props into the room

[01:38:02] [SPEAKER_05]: go look for more stuff around your house quick

[01:38:06] [SPEAKER_08]: all right let's start with something let's start with something easy here give me a number

[01:38:12] [SPEAKER_03]: four just let's just four actually no six it's always six six is the thing

[01:38:16] [SPEAKER_05]: it's always six liana give me an object an object um okay uh licorice okay yes because it is not edible

[01:38:27] [SPEAKER_08]: uh shannon give me another number 66 okay uh liana give me an adjective

[01:38:38] [SPEAKER_08]: uh crunchy uh crunchy okay shannon give me a verb speak what am i doing so you're telling me to do

[01:38:52] [SPEAKER_08]: liana a tv a tv show the golden girls oh nice

[01:38:58] [SPEAKER_08]: shit i'd be like survivor i'm not creative right now all right well shannon this might allow you to

[01:39:05] [SPEAKER_08]: be creative give me a preposition and a preposition is what now a preposition is a part of speech that

[01:39:13] [SPEAKER_08]: implies some sort of direction on to on down across across this is the last thing mike said my brain is

[01:39:24] [SPEAKER_05]: broken it's so exciting okay all right liana a noun can you give me an example sure a person place or

[01:39:32] [SPEAKER_08]: thing okay like thing uh great thank you

[01:39:39] [SPEAKER_08]: all right shannon give me an accessory ring okay liana give me a number the square square root of 69

[01:39:54] [SPEAKER_08]: okay need something there we go shannon give me something you need on survivor

[01:40:05] [SPEAKER_08]: you're shannon the doc something else

[01:40:11] [SPEAKER_08]: oh cap toys okay be careful you know well yeah if you want to track them to put in those wraps yeah

[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_08]: i think you'll need to entice them in some way uh all right liana give me a number put them in the

[01:40:24] [SPEAKER_05]: wrap rick can i give you a time

[01:40:31] [SPEAKER_05]: what does that count as a number like if i said 11 59 p.m does that count

[01:40:37] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah you know what why not sure that's not okay shannon give me a verb ending an ing

[01:40:47] [SPEAKER_08]: podcasting oh i love that liana give me another verb does it have to end an ing nope

[01:40:56] [SPEAKER_05]: slime slime slime slime slime okay okay let me watch give me watch ghostbuster he slimed me that's a

[01:41:02] [SPEAKER_08]: verb stuck in my brain uh shannon give me a noun microphone is that a noun yes it is you're right

[01:41:12] [SPEAKER_08]: okay uh liana give me a name callahan oh callahan gee will it goes callahan the joke for only you and i

[01:41:25] [SPEAKER_01]: well uh shannon give me a verb ending an ing i'm pretty much sitting like i'm already said the things i'm

[01:41:33] [SPEAKER_05]: doing all right liana an adjective like i've already said podcasting yeah i'm uh an adjective

[01:41:44] socky

[01:41:45] [SPEAKER_05]: foggy foggy like a keyboard a thought socky keyboard

[01:41:51] [SPEAKER_05]: what thought

[01:41:54] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[01:41:58] [SPEAKER_05]: no okay i change i change what am i supposed to do an adjective an adjective an adjective okay then i will

[01:42:05] [SPEAKER_08]: go with um expensive expensive shannon give me a location this room that i'm in my my apartment

[01:42:17] [SPEAKER_05]: specifically shannon's apartment

[01:42:22] [SPEAKER_08]: liana uh give me a verb ending an ing

[01:42:26] [SPEAKER_08]: oh um boiling boiling shannon give me a verb in the past

[01:42:35] [SPEAKER_08]: ending in ed or d

[01:42:39] [SPEAKER_08]: um usually when you end in ed and you don't get much d

[01:42:46] [SPEAKER_03]: uh guessed

[01:42:49] [SPEAKER_08]: guessed

[01:42:51] [SPEAKER_02]: like get oh guess okay guess all right uh you i'm guessing but yes exactly uh liana give me a noun

[01:43:00] [SPEAKER_05]: a noun

[01:43:01] [SPEAKER_08]: the ocean okay just like uh rachel's ideal place shannon give me another noun liana

[01:43:10] [SPEAKER_08]: okay liana another noun besides yourself can i say shannon sure we're in it together we don't eat me

[01:43:18] [SPEAKER_08]: i know

[01:43:23] [SPEAKER_08]: okay oh shannon give me a virtue

[01:43:29] [SPEAKER_03]: uh

[01:43:31] [SPEAKER_03]: kind

[01:43:32] [SPEAKER_03]: okay i'll put that what you made

[01:43:34] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah

[01:43:34] [SPEAKER_05]: is that a virtue

[01:43:35] [SPEAKER_05]: yep

[01:43:35] [SPEAKER_05]: like you mean like

[01:43:37] [SPEAKER_05]: isn't there like a religious sense of virtue like there's a list of like the virtues or something

[01:43:41] [SPEAKER_05]: it's like a thing

[01:43:42] [SPEAKER_08]: i think you're secular with it as well

[01:43:44] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah but is that a thing

[01:43:47] [SPEAKER_08]: the virtues

[01:43:48] [SPEAKER_08]: religion

[01:43:50] [SPEAKER_08]: okay uh who is it liana now give me another number

[01:43:54] [SPEAKER_05]: oh another number okay

[01:43:58] [SPEAKER_05]: infinity

[01:44:01] [SPEAKER_08]: love it shannon give me a noun

[01:44:02] [SPEAKER_08]: mike bloom

[01:44:05] [SPEAKER_05]: we're all in it

[01:44:07] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah we're all in it

[01:44:09] [SPEAKER_02]: what's the movie that this is from where the whole movie is like it was on the board in front

[01:44:13] [SPEAKER_02]: it's like the usual suspects or

[01:44:16] [SPEAKER_02]: what do you mean

[01:44:17] [SPEAKER_02]: like a real

[01:44:17] [SPEAKER_02]: kaiser so say

[01:44:19] [SPEAKER_02]: yes that's usual suspects

[01:44:20] [SPEAKER_02]: okay that's what i meant

[01:44:21] [SPEAKER_02]: you know when like the whole movie's on the board behind him

[01:44:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's like all the words

[01:44:24] [SPEAKER_02]: that's how

[01:44:25] [SPEAKER_08]: yes

[01:44:25] [SPEAKER_08]: uh shannon give me a a verb in the past tense

[01:44:30] [SPEAKER_02]: i've pretty much done all the things that i'm panicking

[01:44:32] [SPEAKER_02]: panicked panicked

[01:44:33] [SPEAKER_02]: panicked

[01:44:34] [SPEAKER_02]: panicked

[01:44:34] [SPEAKER_02]: that's good

[01:44:35] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah uh liana give me a verb

[01:44:38] [SPEAKER_08]: breathing next

[01:44:40] [SPEAKER_08]: dr

[01:44:41] [SPEAKER_08]: drowned

[01:44:41] [SPEAKER_08]: to drown

[01:44:42] [SPEAKER_08]: that works

[01:44:43] [SPEAKER_08]: that works

[01:44:44] [SPEAKER_08]: uh shannon an adjective

[01:44:48] [SPEAKER_03]: nice

[01:44:49] [SPEAKER_03]: nice

[01:44:50] [SPEAKER_08]: uh well on that note liana there is a certain number you haven't listed yet

[01:44:54] [SPEAKER_08]: and the next thing i need you to give is a number

[01:44:57] [SPEAKER_05]: oh

[01:44:57] [SPEAKER_05]: 69

[01:44:58] [SPEAKER_08]: there we go

[01:45:00] [SPEAKER_05]: you said square root of 69

[01:45:03] [SPEAKER_08]: oh technically that's eight something right

[01:45:05] [SPEAKER_08]: i was gonna say that technically is not

[01:45:07] [SPEAKER_08]: 69

[01:45:08] [SPEAKER_08]: uh

[01:45:08] [SPEAKER_08]: all right shannon give me another verb in the past tense

[01:45:14] [SPEAKER_02]: struggled

[01:45:16] [SPEAKER_08]: all right uh liana give me a another subject in school

[01:45:20] [SPEAKER_08]: oh

[01:45:21] [SPEAKER_08]: okay

[01:45:23] [SPEAKER_05]: i will go with

[01:45:27] [SPEAKER_05]: what are things that you study

[01:45:29] [SPEAKER_05]: hold on

[01:45:30] [SPEAKER_05]: home room

[01:45:31] [SPEAKER_05]: i already said

[01:45:32] [SPEAKER_07]: home room

[01:45:33] [SPEAKER_05]: we're going to home room this time

[01:45:35] [SPEAKER_07]: all right

[01:45:36] [SPEAKER_07]: all right

[01:45:37] [SPEAKER_07]: uh

[01:45:37] [SPEAKER_07]: okay

[01:45:38] [SPEAKER_07]: did we do it

[01:45:39] [SPEAKER_08]: yep we did it

[01:45:41] [SPEAKER_08]: apologies that was a bit of a long one

[01:45:43] [SPEAKER_08]: but

[01:45:44] [SPEAKER_08]: it should be

[01:45:45] [SPEAKER_08]: because

[01:45:46] [SPEAKER_08]: i scripted out

[01:45:47] [SPEAKER_08]: the entirety of the rice negotiation

[01:45:49] [SPEAKER_08]: oh my god

[01:45:50] [SPEAKER_08]: we're going to be reading

[01:45:51] [SPEAKER_08]: your version

[01:45:52] [SPEAKER_08]: right now

[01:45:53] [SPEAKER_08]: okay

[01:45:54] [SPEAKER_08]: still not balls

[01:45:55] [SPEAKER_08]: so jeff describes everything

[01:45:57] [SPEAKER_08]: balls balls balls

[01:45:58] [SPEAKER_08]: andy don't put them in your mouth

[01:46:00] [SPEAKER_08]: uh

[01:46:00] [SPEAKER_08]: and then he says

[01:46:01] [SPEAKER_08]: cut to andy

[01:46:02] [SPEAKER_08]: he's got a mouth full of balls

[01:46:04] [SPEAKER_08]: there's no rule against it

[01:46:05] [SPEAKER_08]: like you can't touch it with your hair

[01:46:06] [SPEAKER_08]: but he's like

[01:46:07] [SPEAKER_08]: oh

[01:46:08] [SPEAKER_08]: i know

[01:46:08] [SPEAKER_08]: he did ogle it

[01:46:10] [SPEAKER_08]: it's like that guy

[01:46:11] [SPEAKER_08]: they can fit a bunch of billiard bars

[01:46:12] [SPEAKER_08]: and balls in his mouth

[01:46:12] [SPEAKER_08]: like that's a way to hack a challenge

[01:46:14] [SPEAKER_08]: peridium

[01:46:14] [SPEAKER_01]: is that a thing

[01:46:15] [SPEAKER_01]: i don't think that is a way to hack

[01:46:17] [SPEAKER_02]: oh yeah

[01:46:17] [SPEAKER_02]: oh right

[01:46:18] [SPEAKER_02]: so right

[01:46:19] [SPEAKER_02]: so if andy could have

[01:46:19] [SPEAKER_02]: fit all three balls in his mouth

[01:46:22] [SPEAKER_02]: which

[01:46:23] [SPEAKER_02]: he could have won

[01:46:23] [SPEAKER_02]: among us

[01:46:24] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[01:46:25] [SPEAKER_05]: you just put them in your mouth

[01:46:26] [SPEAKER_05]: you unhinge your jaw

[01:46:27] [SPEAKER_08]: exactly

[01:46:28] [SPEAKER_08]: he said he's a snake

[01:46:30] [SPEAKER_08]: like he's a

[01:46:30] [SPEAKER_08]: spider

[01:46:32] [SPEAKER_08]: i'm assuming can unhinge their jaws as well

[01:46:34] [SPEAKER_08]: all right

[01:46:34] [SPEAKER_08]: so

[01:46:35] [SPEAKER_08]: all right well let's move on to this

[01:46:37] [SPEAKER_08]: then

[01:46:37] [SPEAKER_08]: so jeff

[01:46:38] [SPEAKER_08]: before getting to the challenge says

[01:46:40] [SPEAKER_08]: there's one more element

[01:46:41] [SPEAKER_08]: to today's challenge

[01:46:43] [SPEAKER_08]: it's been six days

[01:46:44] [SPEAKER_08]: without any rights

[01:46:46] [SPEAKER_08]: that can all change

[01:46:47] [SPEAKER_08]: he brings out

[01:46:49] [SPEAKER_08]: a big

[01:46:49] [SPEAKER_08]: red or black structure

[01:46:52] [SPEAKER_08]: on the stump

[01:46:53] [SPEAKER_08]: that's a licorice of rice

[01:46:55] [SPEAKER_08]: enough to get you to the end

[01:46:56] [SPEAKER_08]: this is

[01:46:58] [SPEAKER_08]: the rice negotiation

[01:46:59] [SPEAKER_08]: i need

[01:47:01] [SPEAKER_08]: 66 people

[01:47:02] [SPEAKER_08]: to sit out

[01:47:03] [SPEAKER_08]: in exchange for rice

[01:47:04] [SPEAKER_08]: oh wow

[01:47:05] [SPEAKER_08]: this is always a reflection

[01:47:08] [SPEAKER_08]: of where the game is

[01:47:09] [SPEAKER_08]: because on the surface

[01:47:10] [SPEAKER_08]: the crunchy deal

[01:47:12] [SPEAKER_08]: is 66 people

[01:47:13] [SPEAKER_08]: agree to sit out

[01:47:14] [SPEAKER_08]: you agree

[01:47:16] [SPEAKER_08]: tonight

[01:47:16] [SPEAKER_08]: tonight

[01:47:16] [SPEAKER_08]: we won't speak you out

[01:47:18] [SPEAKER_08]: we'll all have rights

[01:47:20] [SPEAKER_08]: that's not how the golden girls works

[01:47:23] [SPEAKER_05]: nuh-uh

[01:47:24] [SPEAKER_05]: it's never that easy

[01:47:26] [SPEAKER_08]: the author would never allow that to happen

[01:47:29] [SPEAKER_08]: and it would be great

[01:47:31] [SPEAKER_08]: if 66 people felt safe enough

[01:47:33] [SPEAKER_08]: that they could sit across

[01:47:34] [SPEAKER_08]: but i don't think that

[01:47:36] [SPEAKER_05]: oh imagine 66 people playing survivor though

[01:47:38] [SPEAKER_05]: like what chaos

[01:47:39] [SPEAKER_05]: okay

[01:47:40] [SPEAKER_05]: that has had

[01:47:40] [SPEAKER_08]: bad international versions

[01:47:42] [SPEAKER_08]: when that happened

[01:47:42] [SPEAKER_08]: that's true

[01:47:43] [SPEAKER_08]: it's like over 100 people

[01:47:44] [SPEAKER_08]: it's not super far from australian survivor

[01:47:47] [SPEAKER_08]: but i don't think that's where the game is right now

[01:47:49] [SPEAKER_05]: no

[01:47:49] [SPEAKER_08]: i think everybody's still on very thin ice

[01:47:54] [SPEAKER_08]: and very much wanting that ring

[01:47:56] [SPEAKER_08]: a little bit more than the rice

[01:47:58] [SPEAKER_08]: which an immunity ring would be pretty dang killer

[01:48:00] [SPEAKER_08]: that's really cool

[01:48:01] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah

[01:48:01] [SPEAKER_01]: that's so cool actually

[01:48:02] [SPEAKER_08]: is that true

[01:48:04] [SPEAKER_08]: anybody instantly say

[01:48:06] [SPEAKER_08]: i consider sitting across

[01:48:07] [SPEAKER_08]: for rice

[01:48:08] [SPEAKER_08]: gabe replies

[01:48:10] [SPEAKER_08]: put it to the square root of 69

[01:48:13] [SPEAKER_08]: jeff says

[01:48:14] [SPEAKER_08]: no

[01:48:14] [SPEAKER_08]: the set price is 66

[01:48:17] [SPEAKER_08]: caroline

[01:48:18] [SPEAKER_08]: floats out

[01:48:19] [SPEAKER_08]: what if two of us gave up our cat toys

[01:48:22] [SPEAKER_08]: oh that would be high

[01:48:24] [SPEAKER_08]: that's a lot of cat toys that i have

[01:48:25] [SPEAKER_08]: jet says

[01:48:26] [SPEAKER_08]: no

[01:48:27] [SPEAKER_08]: kyle replies

[01:48:28] [SPEAKER_08]: what if you got all the cat toys

[01:48:32] [SPEAKER_08]: wow

[01:48:32] [SPEAKER_06]: this sounds awesome

[01:48:35] [SPEAKER_08]: jeff says

[01:48:36] [SPEAKER_08]: he's a cat

[01:48:37] [SPEAKER_08]: and he's like yes

[01:48:38] [SPEAKER_08]: every cat toy

[01:48:39] [SPEAKER_08]: down the line

[01:48:41] [SPEAKER_08]: wow

[01:48:43] [SPEAKER_08]: everybody here

[01:48:44] [SPEAKER_08]: willing to give up

[01:48:45] [SPEAKER_08]: your cat toy

[01:48:46] [SPEAKER_08]: on only day

[01:48:47] [SPEAKER_08]: 11 59 p.m

[01:48:49] [SPEAKER_05]: so i think that's the first day

[01:48:55] [SPEAKER_05]: like it's not

[01:48:56] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah exactly

[01:48:56] [SPEAKER_05]: i'll give it

[01:48:57] [SPEAKER_03]: i'll give the cat toy

[01:49:00] [SPEAKER_08]: wow

[01:49:00] [SPEAKER_08]: all of the

[01:49:01] [SPEAKER_08]: wow

[01:49:02] [SPEAKER_08]: all of them

[01:49:02] [SPEAKER_08]: wow

[01:49:03] [SPEAKER_08]: it's not even midnight yet

[01:49:04] [SPEAKER_08]: on the first day

[01:49:05] [SPEAKER_08]: you're already willing to do this

[01:49:06] [SPEAKER_08]: wow

[01:49:09] [SPEAKER_08]: uh so then everyone starts chiming in

[01:49:10] [SPEAKER_08]: i would do it

[01:49:11] [SPEAKER_08]: i would do it

[01:49:11] [SPEAKER_08]: rachel says

[01:49:12] [SPEAKER_08]: i don't have one

[01:49:13] [SPEAKER_08]: i assume she gave away your cat toy

[01:49:14] [SPEAKER_08]: or she lost it at some point

[01:49:16] [SPEAKER_08]: jeff says

[01:49:17] [SPEAKER_08]: i just want to make sure

[01:49:18] [SPEAKER_08]: you're podcasting clearly

[01:49:20] [SPEAKER_08]: because

[01:49:21] [SPEAKER_08]: this is a massive sacrifice

[01:49:23] [SPEAKER_08]: from where i slime

[01:49:24] [SPEAKER_08]: over here

[01:49:25] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah

[01:49:27] [SPEAKER_08]: the cat toy

[01:49:28] [SPEAKER_08]: is your last microphone

[01:49:31] [SPEAKER_08]: your hail callahan

[01:49:32] [SPEAKER_08]: your one last chance

[01:49:37] [SPEAKER_05]: that's

[01:49:37] [SPEAKER_05]: that's what i always say

[01:49:38] [SPEAKER_05]: you know

[01:49:39] [SPEAKER_05]: throw that one last call

[01:49:41] [SPEAKER_08]: your hail callahan

[01:49:42] [SPEAKER_05]: your hail callahan

[01:49:44] [SPEAKER_08]: sam says

[01:49:45] [SPEAKER_08]: you know

[01:49:46] [SPEAKER_08]: he's really going through it

[01:49:47] [SPEAKER_08]: he goes

[01:49:47] [SPEAKER_08]: i'll do it if everyone

[01:49:49] [SPEAKER_08]: i'm sitting

[01:49:49] [SPEAKER_08]: listen i'm sitting

[01:49:50] [SPEAKER_08]: and jeff says

[01:49:51] [SPEAKER_08]: sam walk me through

[01:49:52] [SPEAKER_08]: the reason you're expensive

[01:49:57] [SPEAKER_08]: which makes me feel like

[01:49:57] [SPEAKER_08]: he's some sort of

[01:49:58] [SPEAKER_08]: like high price

[01:49:59] [SPEAKER_08]: escort

[01:49:59] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah exactly

[01:50:01] [SPEAKER_08]: your price is so high

[01:50:03] [SPEAKER_08]: sam what's the price back here

[01:50:04] [SPEAKER_08]: sam says

[01:50:04] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah i mean

[01:50:06] [SPEAKER_08]: i'm in shannon's apartment

[01:50:07] [SPEAKER_08]: i've been in shannon's apartment

[01:50:09] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's easy for the people

[01:50:11] [SPEAKER_08]: on the top to say

[01:50:12] [SPEAKER_08]: i don't need my cat toys

[01:50:13] [SPEAKER_08]: but when you feel like

[01:50:15] [SPEAKER_08]: that might be your only choice

[01:50:16] [SPEAKER_08]: at boiling in this game

[01:50:18] [SPEAKER_08]: that rice

[01:50:19] [SPEAKER_08]: i could go eat rice

[01:50:20] [SPEAKER_08]: after i get guessed out

[01:50:22] [SPEAKER_08]: gabe replies

[01:50:23] [SPEAKER_08]: your ocean

[01:50:24] [SPEAKER_08]: is more powerful

[01:50:26] [SPEAKER_08]: than that cat toy

[01:50:27] [SPEAKER_08]: your vote

[01:50:28] [SPEAKER_08]: is how you got

[01:50:29] [SPEAKER_08]: out of shannon's apartment

[01:50:30] [SPEAKER_08]: by giving people

[01:50:32] [SPEAKER_08]: your liana

[01:50:35] [SPEAKER_08]: sam says

[01:50:36] [SPEAKER_08]: i've been offering

[01:50:37] [SPEAKER_08]: my liana

[01:50:38] [SPEAKER_08]: nobody wanted

[01:50:39] [SPEAKER_08]: to take it

[01:50:40] [SPEAKER_08]: no

[01:50:42] [SPEAKER_08]: no

[01:50:42] [SPEAKER_08]: no

[01:50:44] [SPEAKER_08]: no

[01:50:45] [SPEAKER_08]: no

[01:50:45] [SPEAKER_08]: no

[01:50:46] [SPEAKER_08]: game says

[01:50:47] [SPEAKER_08]: and you're still here

[01:50:49] [SPEAKER_08]: you're still here

[01:50:50] [SPEAKER_08]: because you have

[01:50:51] [SPEAKER_08]: a shannon

[01:50:52] [SPEAKER_08]: oh

[01:50:57] [SPEAKER_08]: so sam

[01:50:58] [SPEAKER_08]: is also an escort

[01:51:00] [SPEAKER_08]: but also maybe

[01:51:01] [SPEAKER_08]: a bit of a pimp

[01:51:01] [SPEAKER_08]: as well

[01:51:02] [SPEAKER_08]: he's also living

[01:51:03] [SPEAKER_08]: in shannon's apartment

[01:51:04] [SPEAKER_05]: but escaped

[01:51:05] [SPEAKER_05]: which is like

[01:51:06] [SPEAKER_05]: did you hold him hostage

[01:51:08] [SPEAKER_05]: and also i'm useless

[01:51:09] [SPEAKER_05]: which makes sense

[01:51:12] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah yeah yeah

[01:51:12] [SPEAKER_08]: and if you want to lean

[01:51:14] [SPEAKER_08]: on your challenge kindness

[01:51:15] [SPEAKER_08]: that rice is going to help it

[01:51:17] [SPEAKER_08]: if you feel like

[01:51:18] [SPEAKER_08]: you're in shannon's apartment

[01:51:20] [SPEAKER_08]: that rice is more valuable

[01:51:21] [SPEAKER_08]: to win an immunity ring

[01:51:23] [SPEAKER_08]: than get a one

[01:51:24] [SPEAKER_08]: an infinity shot

[01:51:25] [SPEAKER_08]: chance at immunity

[01:51:25] [SPEAKER_08]: which does feel like

[01:51:27] [SPEAKER_08]: actually like

[01:51:28] [SPEAKER_08]: not even low-balling

[01:51:29] [SPEAKER_08]: though you're shot in the dark

[01:51:30] [SPEAKER_08]: feels like it's one

[01:51:31] [SPEAKER_08]: an affinity at some point

[01:51:33] [SPEAKER_08]: sam

[01:51:33] [SPEAKER_08]: looks down

[01:51:34] [SPEAKER_08]: takes a pause

[01:51:37] [SPEAKER_08]: i'm not gonna keep rice

[01:51:38] [SPEAKER_08]: from mike bloom

[01:51:40] [SPEAKER_01]: oh

[01:51:40] [SPEAKER_01]: you guys get good stuff

[01:51:44] [SPEAKER_08]: how could you

[01:51:45] [SPEAKER_01]: no one would want to do that

[01:51:47] [SPEAKER_08]: so then jeff

[01:51:48] [SPEAKER_08]: follows up on that

[01:51:49] [SPEAKER_08]: so game panicked you

[01:51:52] [SPEAKER_08]: and sam goes

[01:51:53] [SPEAKER_08]: sure

[01:51:53] [SPEAKER_08]: sure

[01:51:55] [SPEAKER_08]: jeff says

[01:51:56] [SPEAKER_08]: everybody

[01:51:57] [SPEAKER_08]: everybody

[01:51:57] [SPEAKER_08]: who has a cat toy

[01:51:58] [SPEAKER_08]: is prepared to drown it

[01:52:00] [SPEAKER_08]: right now

[01:52:02] [SPEAKER_08]: i'll make that deal

[01:52:04] [SPEAKER_08]: very nice

[01:52:05] [SPEAKER_08]: to see if this

[01:52:06] [SPEAKER_08]: comes back

[01:52:07] [SPEAKER_08]: to have a little

[01:52:08] [SPEAKER_08]: 69 guess

[01:52:09] [SPEAKER_08]: at some point

[01:52:11] [SPEAKER_08]: you're all

[01:52:12] [SPEAKER_08]: willing to give it up

[01:52:13] [SPEAKER_08]: i'll take them

[01:52:14] [SPEAKER_08]: as jeff is collecting them

[01:52:16] [SPEAKER_08]: kyle says

[01:52:17] [SPEAKER_08]: can't believe

[01:52:18] [SPEAKER_08]: i struggled something

[01:52:19] [SPEAKER_08]: jeff says

[01:52:20] [SPEAKER_08]: you were in on

[01:52:21] [SPEAKER_08]: survivor homeroom

[01:52:22] [SPEAKER_08]: here

[01:52:23] [SPEAKER_08]: survivor homeroom

[01:52:24] [SPEAKER_08]: for sure

[01:52:25] [SPEAKER_08]: thank you

[01:52:27] [SPEAKER_08]: all the cat toys

[01:52:28] [SPEAKER_08]: in exchange

[01:52:29] [SPEAKER_08]: for one licorice

[01:52:30] [SPEAKER_08]: of rice

[01:52:31] [SPEAKER_08]: waiting for you

[01:52:31] [SPEAKER_08]: back at camp

[01:52:32] [SPEAKER_08]: well done

[01:52:33] [SPEAKER_08]: and i will say

[01:52:34] [SPEAKER_08]: well done

[01:52:35] [SPEAKER_08]: to the two of you

[01:52:35] [SPEAKER_08]: as well

[01:52:36] [SPEAKER_08]: yay

[01:52:36] [SPEAKER_08]: out of this apartment

[01:52:38] [SPEAKER_08]: i he's

[01:52:39] [SPEAKER_02]: he's welcome

[01:52:39] [SPEAKER_02]: but as a guest

[01:52:41] [SPEAKER_02]: where i'm aware

[01:52:41] [SPEAKER_02]: of it

[01:52:42] [SPEAKER_02]: not against

[01:52:43] [SPEAKER_05]: my knowledge

[01:52:44] [SPEAKER_05]: right

[01:52:44] [SPEAKER_05]: like he's hiding

[01:52:45] [SPEAKER_05]: in your walls

[01:52:46] [SPEAKER_05]: or like has moved

[01:52:47] [SPEAKER_05]: into your attic

[01:52:48] [SPEAKER_05]: and is creepily

[01:52:48] [SPEAKER_05]: it's an apartment

[01:52:49] [SPEAKER_05]: i don't have an attic

[01:52:51] [SPEAKER_05]: that you know of

[01:52:52] [SPEAKER_05]: that you know

[01:52:52] [SPEAKER_05]: sam's up there

[01:52:55] [SPEAKER_05]: sam

[01:52:55] [SPEAKER_05]: and he's

[01:52:57] [SPEAKER_08]: i mean listen

[01:52:58] [SPEAKER_08]: he can source

[01:52:59] [SPEAKER_08]: all those cat toys

[01:53:00] [SPEAKER_08]: like he's in surplus

[01:53:01] [SPEAKER_08]: right now

[01:53:01] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[01:53:02] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[01:53:02] [SPEAKER_05]: that's slowly

[01:53:03] [SPEAKER_05]: collecting them

[01:53:04] [SPEAKER_05]: one at a time

[01:53:04] [SPEAKER_05]: so you can trade

[01:53:05] [SPEAKER_05]: them to jeff

[01:53:06] [SPEAKER_05]: that's where

[01:53:06] [SPEAKER_05]: we have

[01:53:07] [SPEAKER_05]: we've been missing

[01:53:07] [SPEAKER_02]: lisey's bird for weeks

[01:53:09] [SPEAKER_02]: and we assume

[01:53:09] [SPEAKER_02]: it's under the couch

[01:53:11] [SPEAKER_02]: sam

[01:53:12] [SPEAKER_02]: that's my favorite toy

[01:53:13] [SPEAKER_02]: give it back

[01:53:13] [SPEAKER_02]: sam

[01:53:14] [SPEAKER_08]: under the couch

[01:53:14] [SPEAKER_08]: in jeff probes office

[01:53:16] [SPEAKER_08]: because that's

[01:53:16] [SPEAKER_08]: where i'm assuming

[01:53:16] [SPEAKER_08]: he did with all

[01:53:17] [SPEAKER_08]: the shots in the dark

[01:53:18] [SPEAKER_02]: well the couch

[01:53:19] [SPEAKER_02]: they had to push up

[01:53:20] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[01:53:22] [SPEAKER_08]: oh what about

[01:53:23] [SPEAKER_08]: the couch in the dark

[01:53:25] [SPEAKER_05]: oh okay

[01:53:26] [SPEAKER_05]: so you want to play

[01:53:27] [SPEAKER_05]: your couch in the dark

[01:53:28] [SPEAKER_05]: but you get up off the couch

[01:53:30] [SPEAKER_05]: but

[01:53:32] [SPEAKER_05]: you're sitting

[01:53:33] [SPEAKER_08]: so the couch in the dark

[01:53:35] [SPEAKER_08]: is an advantage

[01:53:35] [SPEAKER_08]: where you go into a dark room

[01:53:37] [SPEAKER_08]: and you have five minutes

[01:53:39] [SPEAKER_08]: to search for an advantage

[01:53:40] [SPEAKER_08]: but it's pitch black

[01:53:41] [SPEAKER_08]: and sometimes

[01:53:42] [SPEAKER_08]: there might be

[01:53:43] [SPEAKER_08]: and so sometimes

[01:53:44] [SPEAKER_08]: there's a disadvantage

[01:53:45] [SPEAKER_08]: in there

[01:53:45] [SPEAKER_08]: sometimes there might be

[01:53:47] [SPEAKER_08]: an idol

[01:53:48] [SPEAKER_08]: okay

[01:53:48] [SPEAKER_08]: it's like a more

[01:53:49] [SPEAKER_08]: low budget ghost island

[01:53:51] [SPEAKER_08]: right

[01:53:51] [SPEAKER_05]: because it's a couch

[01:53:52] [SPEAKER_05]: in the dark

[01:53:53] [SPEAKER_05]: it's just a couch

[01:53:54] [SPEAKER_02]: in the dark

[01:53:56] [SPEAKER_02]: ghost island

[01:53:57] [SPEAKER_02]: wasn't super high budget

[01:53:58] [SPEAKER_03]: i don't think

[01:53:59] [SPEAKER_02]: exactly

[01:53:59] [SPEAKER_02]: so that's saying

[01:53:59] [SPEAKER_02]: i think

[01:54:00] [SPEAKER_02]: if it's an immunity ring

[01:54:01] [SPEAKER_02]: jeff would have to propose

[01:54:02] [SPEAKER_02]: they should do that

[01:54:03] [SPEAKER_02]: well he does officiate

[01:54:05] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[01:54:05] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[01:54:06] [SPEAKER_05]: they should consider

[01:54:08] [SPEAKER_05]: other

[01:54:09] [SPEAKER_05]: like other pieces

[01:54:10] [SPEAKER_05]: of jewelry

[01:54:13] [SPEAKER_05]: crown

[01:54:14] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[01:54:14] [SPEAKER_05]: crown

[01:54:15] [SPEAKER_05]: that's pretty cool

[01:54:17] [SPEAKER_05]: an anklet

[01:54:18] [SPEAKER_08]: brooch

[01:54:19] [SPEAKER_05]: a bro

[01:54:20] [SPEAKER_05]: a bro

[01:54:21] [SPEAKER_05]: yes

[01:54:23] [SPEAKER_05]: and they have to wear it

[01:54:24] [SPEAKER_05]: which would be funny

[01:54:25] [SPEAKER_05]: imagine like

[01:54:25] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[01:54:25] [SPEAKER_05]: like for all the guys

[01:54:26] [SPEAKER_08]: who don't wear a shirt

[01:54:27] [SPEAKER_08]: like them pinning it

[01:54:28] [SPEAKER_08]: to their chest

[01:54:29] [SPEAKER_05]: i guess

[01:54:29] [SPEAKER_05]: that's the last 0.2%

[01:54:31] [SPEAKER_05]: of them

[01:54:32] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[01:54:32] [SPEAKER_02]: the immunity

[01:54:33] [SPEAKER_02]: idols look a bit

[01:54:34] [SPEAKER_02]: like bracelets now

[01:54:35] [SPEAKER_02]: so they are expanding

[01:54:36] [SPEAKER_02]: into a bit of a line

[01:54:37] [SPEAKER_02]: a very ugly line

[01:54:38] [SPEAKER_02]: of jewelry

[01:54:40] [SPEAKER_02]: like do not buy that

[01:54:41] [SPEAKER_02]: for your part

[01:54:41] [SPEAKER_08]: so should it

[01:54:42] [SPEAKER_08]: well let's expand it further

[01:54:43] [SPEAKER_08]: let's go from accessory

[01:54:44] [SPEAKER_08]: to garment

[01:54:45] [SPEAKER_08]: should it be an immunity shirt

[01:54:48] [SPEAKER_02]: that would make

[01:54:49] [SPEAKER_02]: so imagine if it was

[01:54:49] [SPEAKER_02]: like a reward

[01:54:50] [SPEAKER_02]: like you get like

[01:54:51] [SPEAKER_02]: you know we've seen

[01:54:51] [SPEAKER_02]: jackets be such

[01:54:52] [SPEAKER_02]: hot commodities

[01:54:53] [SPEAKER_02]: if it was like

[01:54:54] [SPEAKER_02]: a letterman jacket

[01:54:55] [SPEAKER_02]: that you win

[01:54:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and then you know

[01:54:56] [SPEAKER_02]: you're gonna be warm

[01:54:57] [SPEAKER_02]: that would actually be

[01:54:58] [SPEAKER_02]: like a bit of a reward

[01:54:59] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah that's cool

[01:55:00] [SPEAKER_05]: i like that

[01:55:01] [SPEAKER_05]: but then you still

[01:55:01] [SPEAKER_05]: have to give it back

[01:55:02] [SPEAKER_05]: it would be kind of gross

[01:55:03] [SPEAKER_05]: so like do you wash them

[01:55:04] [SPEAKER_05]: like do you think

[01:55:04] [SPEAKER_05]: they wash them in between

[01:55:05] [SPEAKER_05]: probably not

[01:55:06] [SPEAKER_08]: i mean i guess

[01:55:07] [SPEAKER_08]: the necklace you don't

[01:55:08] [SPEAKER_08]: wear as much

[01:55:08] [SPEAKER_08]: so it's not like

[01:55:09] [SPEAKER_08]: it doesn't matter

[01:55:10] [SPEAKER_08]: if you wash it

[01:55:10] [SPEAKER_08]: so

[01:55:11] [SPEAKER_02]: you think they care

[01:55:12] [SPEAKER_02]: about that

[01:55:12] [SPEAKER_02]: they're all wearing

[01:55:13] [SPEAKER_02]: each other's clothes

[01:55:14] [SPEAKER_02]: they're on survivor

[01:55:16] [SPEAKER_02]: oh yeah

[01:55:17] [SPEAKER_02]: i mean they won't mind

[01:55:18] [SPEAKER_08]: i just imagine like

[01:55:20] [SPEAKER_08]: all right

[01:55:20] [SPEAKER_08]: tonight i'm gonna

[01:55:21] [SPEAKER_08]: give individual

[01:55:21] [SPEAKER_08]: immunity to liana

[01:55:24] [SPEAKER_05]: strip off

[01:55:25] [SPEAKER_05]: oh my gosh

[01:55:26] [SPEAKER_05]: or you could do

[01:55:27] [SPEAKER_05]: what about

[01:55:27] [SPEAKER_05]: immunity idol socks

[01:55:29] [SPEAKER_08]: oh i like that

[01:55:30] [SPEAKER_08]: i mean you talk about

[01:55:31] [SPEAKER_08]: hiding in plain sight

[01:55:32] [SPEAKER_08]: i think that

[01:55:33] [SPEAKER_08]: immunity idol like

[01:55:34] [SPEAKER_08]: garb would be

[01:55:35] [SPEAKER_08]: very fun

[01:55:36] [SPEAKER_08]: like especially

[01:55:36] [SPEAKER_08]: if there was

[01:55:37] [SPEAKER_08]: it was

[01:55:37] [SPEAKER_08]: i don't know

[01:55:38] [SPEAKER_08]: boxers that read

[01:55:39] [SPEAKER_08]: like idol beware

[01:55:40] [SPEAKER_08]: on the butt

[01:55:41] [SPEAKER_08]: or something

[01:55:41] [SPEAKER_05]: that's good

[01:55:42] [SPEAKER_05]: well i was thinking

[01:55:43] [SPEAKER_05]: like the sisterhood

[01:55:43] [SPEAKER_05]: of the traveling pants

[01:55:44] [SPEAKER_05]: so it's the same thing

[01:55:46] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a pair of jeans

[01:55:47] [SPEAKER_02]: but it fits everybody

[01:55:48] [SPEAKER_02]: oh my god

[01:55:49] [SPEAKER_02]: haven't you put on jeans

[01:55:49] [SPEAKER_02]: on the island

[01:55:50] [SPEAKER_02]: when like you're wet

[01:55:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and sandy

[01:55:52] [SPEAKER_02]: i would rather not

[01:55:53] [SPEAKER_02]: even have the idol

[01:55:56] [SPEAKER_08]: well what is interesting

[01:55:57] [SPEAKER_08]: is like people

[01:55:58] [SPEAKER_08]: oftentimes keep an idol

[01:55:59] [SPEAKER_08]: right in their bra

[01:56:00] [SPEAKER_08]: in their their crotch

[01:56:02] [SPEAKER_08]: like what if the beware

[01:56:03] [SPEAKER_08]: of the beware advantage

[01:56:04] [SPEAKER_08]: was that it was a piece

[01:56:05] [SPEAKER_08]: of wardrobe you had to wear

[01:56:06] [SPEAKER_08]: that was like

[01:56:07] [SPEAKER_08]: insert idol here

[01:56:09] [SPEAKER_08]: like that

[01:56:10] [SPEAKER_08]: but people think

[01:56:10] [SPEAKER_08]: it's like so cheeky

[01:56:11] [SPEAKER_08]: like ah ha ha

[01:56:12] [SPEAKER_08]: you got that specially

[01:56:13] [SPEAKER_08]: made for the season

[01:56:14] [SPEAKER_08]: not realizing that's

[01:56:15] [SPEAKER_08]: where the idol is

[01:56:15] [SPEAKER_02]: it's actually an idol

[01:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah i think that

[01:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: in recent years

[01:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: they're probably trying

[01:56:19] [SPEAKER_02]: to stray away

[01:56:20] [SPEAKER_02]: from things like that

[01:56:21] [SPEAKER_02]: that are really

[01:56:21] [SPEAKER_02]: drawing attention

[01:56:22] [SPEAKER_02]: to all of that

[01:56:24] [SPEAKER_02]: i think it's gonna be

[01:56:26] [SPEAKER_02]: really hard for me

[01:56:26] [SPEAKER_02]: to get back on track

[01:56:27] [SPEAKER_02]: for the cheesy

[01:56:28] [SPEAKER_02]: i don't even remember

[01:56:29] [SPEAKER_02]: what happened in the episode

[01:56:30] [SPEAKER_02]: like where are we

[01:56:31] [SPEAKER_02]: words don't you remember

[01:56:32] [SPEAKER_08]: they all gave away

[01:56:33] [SPEAKER_08]: their cat toys

[01:56:34] [SPEAKER_08]: to get a thing

[01:56:35] [SPEAKER_08]: full of licorice

[01:56:35] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah and then

[01:56:36] [SPEAKER_08]: they all pushed a couch

[01:56:37] [SPEAKER_08]: with their heads

[01:56:38] [SPEAKER_08]: yep that of which

[01:56:40] [SPEAKER_08]: one of them may or

[01:56:41] [SPEAKER_08]: may not have lost

[01:56:42] [SPEAKER_08]: a significant part

[01:56:42] [SPEAKER_08]: of their body

[01:56:43] [SPEAKER_08]: doing so

[01:56:43] [SPEAKER_08]: and no one wanted

[01:56:44] [SPEAKER_08]: liana that's what

[01:56:46] [SPEAKER_08]: i've yeah

[01:56:47] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah i'm trying

[01:56:48] [SPEAKER_03]: to give away liana

[01:56:49] [SPEAKER_03]: no one wants liana

[01:56:53] [SPEAKER_05]: i can't try

[01:56:54] [SPEAKER_05]: paying people

[01:56:55] [SPEAKER_05]: they won't do it

[01:56:56] [SPEAKER_05]: story of my life

[01:56:59] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah

[01:57:00] [SPEAKER_03]: uh yeah

[01:57:01] [SPEAKER_03]: i don't know

[01:57:01] [SPEAKER_03]: how relevant

[01:57:03] [SPEAKER_03]: that is

[01:57:04] [SPEAKER_03]: hmm

[01:57:05] [SPEAKER_05]: anyway

[01:57:06] [SPEAKER_05]: so yeah

[01:57:09] [SPEAKER_05]: strategy

[01:57:09] [SPEAKER_05]: chizzy

[01:57:10] [SPEAKER_08]: shannon

[01:57:11] [SPEAKER_08]: you want to

[01:57:11] [SPEAKER_08]: introduce it

[01:57:12] [SPEAKER_03]: take away

[01:57:13] [SPEAKER_03]: jacob

[01:57:14] [SPEAKER_03]: in an mc color

[01:57:15] [SPEAKER_03]: two

[01:57:16] [SPEAKER_06]: three

[01:57:26] [SPEAKER_02]: now because we're

[01:57:27] [SPEAKER_02]: on video we have

[01:57:28] [SPEAKER_02]: the charts as well

[01:57:29] [SPEAKER_02]: here they are

[01:57:30] [SPEAKER_03]: oh

[01:57:32] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah

[01:57:36] [SPEAKER_02]: yes

[01:57:36] [SPEAKER_02]: okay

[01:57:37] [SPEAKER_02]: the chizzy

[01:57:39] [SPEAKER_02]: um

[01:57:39] [SPEAKER_02]: we're doing two

[01:57:41] [SPEAKER_02]: one one points

[01:57:41] [SPEAKER_02]: but it's important

[01:57:42] [SPEAKER_02]: which one is one

[01:57:43] [SPEAKER_02]: right

[01:57:43] [SPEAKER_02]: because it would be

[01:57:44] [SPEAKER_02]: three two one

[01:57:45] [SPEAKER_02]: even though it's

[01:57:46] [SPEAKER_02]: two one one

[01:57:46] [SPEAKER_02]: the order of the

[01:57:47] [SPEAKER_02]: ones matters

[01:57:48] [SPEAKER_02]: to the chart

[01:57:49] [SPEAKER_02]: so who wants

[01:57:50] [SPEAKER_03]: to go first

[01:57:53] [SPEAKER_05]: okay well i will

[01:57:54] [SPEAKER_05]: give my two

[01:57:55] [SPEAKER_05]: to sam

[01:57:56] [SPEAKER_05]: this week

[01:57:57] [SPEAKER_05]: i think for me

[01:57:58] [SPEAKER_05]: i have to

[01:57:59] [SPEAKER_05]: acknowledge the

[01:57:59] [SPEAKER_05]: fact that he

[01:58:00] [SPEAKER_05]: was the one

[01:58:00] [SPEAKER_05]: who was

[01:58:01] [SPEAKER_05]: originally pushing

[01:58:02] [SPEAKER_05]: gabe and also

[01:58:03] [SPEAKER_05]: he's the one

[01:58:04] [SPEAKER_05]: who got credit

[01:58:05] [SPEAKER_05]: at least

[01:58:05] [SPEAKER_05]: narratively for

[01:58:06] [SPEAKER_05]: creating this

[01:58:07] [SPEAKER_05]: sort of misfits

[01:58:08] [SPEAKER_05]: alliance i think

[01:58:09] [SPEAKER_05]: he was also able

[01:58:09] [SPEAKER_05]: to protect himself

[01:58:10] [SPEAKER_05]: as someone else

[01:58:11] [SPEAKER_05]: who's coming

[01:58:11] [SPEAKER_05]: across as sort

[01:58:12] [SPEAKER_05]: of another really

[01:58:13] [SPEAKER_05]: big player

[01:58:13] [SPEAKER_05]: so i will give

[01:58:14] [SPEAKER_05]: my two to sam

[01:58:16] [SPEAKER_03]: yep

[01:58:17] [SPEAKER_03]: and do i get

[01:58:18] [SPEAKER_05]: my other ones

[01:58:19] [SPEAKER_05]: now

[01:58:19] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah we don't

[01:58:20] [SPEAKER_08]: go around

[01:58:21] [SPEAKER_05]: oh no

[01:58:22] [SPEAKER_08]: i don't need to

[01:58:23] [SPEAKER_08]: do math on this

[01:58:23] [SPEAKER_08]: fly

[01:58:24] [SPEAKER_05]: think about it

[01:58:25] [SPEAKER_08]: which one is

[01:58:26] [SPEAKER_08]: the one to

[01:58:27] [SPEAKER_08]: want

[01:58:27] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah i know

[01:58:27] [SPEAKER_05]: because yeah

[01:58:28] [SPEAKER_05]: this really

[01:58:29] [SPEAKER_05]: really matters

[01:58:30] [SPEAKER_02]: it should probably