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[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You better get your headphones and listen up quick. It's the Purple Pants Podcast. You better listen in public. Might make your stomach hurt. It's the Purple Pants Podcast.

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[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Hello, hello and welcome to the Purple Pants Podcast Survivor News. I serve as your humble and oh so gracious host, Bryce Isaiah. And I thank you so much for tuning in to this week's recap.

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[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Your baby boys are back from LA from the Bryce and Wintour 47. Shout out to all of the Purple Pants posse that was in the building. The love was truly felt. I got to see the baby boy, Jack Atkins.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, when DZ Holland was there, we're back talking all things Survivor 47, episode three.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Baby, was it a threat or a promise? So much to get into in this episode.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not even going to hold y'all. Let's get into this week's Survivor News.

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[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_03]: What's going on?

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And we are back with your Survivor News coverage of Survivor Season 43, episode four.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I am back.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I keep saying from, like, I said 43?

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_03]: If you add them up, though.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_03]: If you add them up and do the Jelinski math, we are back with your Survivor News, season 47, episode four.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_03]: The baby boys were reunited and we're back.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_03]: We have the first merged boot of Winners at War.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And somebody that just finished up wrapping ABC's Extreme Home Makeover Home Edition when DZ Holland was popping.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_04]: It's good to be back.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Good to see my brothers.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Extreme Makeover Home Edition.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a wrap.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: It's coming out first week of January.

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's go.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_03]: The man.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_03]: The myth.

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Should have been on Season 45, but he's an honorary member.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_03]: He's kind of tall.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And listen to this, Win DZ.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_03]: While we were in L.A., I had the opportunity to go to Jack's house.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know Jack has an Olympic-sized pool behind that window in this podcast?

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I was shocked.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: An Olympic-sized pool?

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: An Olympic-sized pool.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Bryce, what you don't know is I got that because of Extreme Home Makeover.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_06]: He put it in there.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_06]: It really saved me.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Jackery Atkins, The Circle Season 2, what's popping, baby boy?

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, fresh off a great Bryce and One Presents in L.A.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_06]: had the best time and really an episode that was chock full of great moments that I'm really excited to talk about.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm feeling great, Bryce.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're excited.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_03]: The BWP Tour, 47 Stop in L.A., was definitely one to remember.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_03]: We did take a couple of seasons off from going to L.A., but we came back and it felt like home.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_03]: The star studded that came out was ridiculous.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_03]: If I was a rapper, I'd say it was a predicament, but not a predicament because I'm trying to put my thoughts on.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Whoa.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Jackery, he's getting out of control already.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't even know he's like that.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_03]: It was amazing.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_03]: L.A. did not disappoint.

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Just shout out to all of the survivors.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Shout out to my amazing race people.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Shout out to the big brother, to the challenge, to Anonymous, to the circle.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_03]: They were out there.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_03]: The floor is lava.

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_03]: We had, it was just, you name it, they were there.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It was definitely so much fun.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_03]: The BWP Tour 47 continues.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Our next stop will be in Nashville October 23rd.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Following that, we'll be in New Orleans.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_03]: After New Orleans, we are headed to Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, Washington, D.C., and the finale in New York City.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_03]: So if you haven't got your tickets yet, don't have no FOMO, pull up.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And also, shout out to the Purple Pants Posse that was in the building in L.A.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_03]: to all of my amazing people.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody, my friend was like, I'd be writing in the comments, I know who you are.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I see you.

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I comment back.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But again, shout out to everybody.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_03]: L.A. was truly so much fun.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Wendeezy, what's your thoughts?

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Man, we were, L.A.'s a finicky market, and we didn't know what we were signing up for, for coming so early in the season.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And man, oh man, L.A. showed out.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_04]: From the fans, there was a good turnout.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's not a finale, but it was a really good turnout.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_04]: To the reality, they were in the building.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And then we had radio DJ, DJ Charisma.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And that was our first time working with her, and she smoked it.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_04]: She smoked it.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Then we had, yeah, it was just the best vibes.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone was having a good time.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Some of the producers from Xtreme were in there.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Some of the people from Survivor.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_04]: The family was there.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Some, you know, Survivor be in attendance at our parties, if y'all didn't know.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, okay.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_04]: They be on the low, but if you didn't know, they be in our events.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_04]: CBS be in our events.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Those are our people.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_04]: But Wendell's family was in the building, too.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_04]: That is true.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Senior, Neat, and Lauren.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, yes.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And my favorite cousin of Wendell's showed up.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_03]: But real quick, Wendell, who was the first reality star to show up?

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_04]: It was so great.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_04]: It was so great to see my man, Jackery Atkins, to the happy hour.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I was going to say, I think it was me.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if I counted as a reality star, but I was there early because these events,

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_06]: for me, you guys have a lot going on, coordinating them and everything.

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_06]: So, I'm sure it's kind of a relief when they wrap up.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_06]: But when I have to go home, I'm sad.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought we were just getting started.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And so, sometimes, you know, like any night, sometimes the pregame is the most fun part.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_06]: And so, again, just come kicking with you guys.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, as you guys know, once you're in the party, it is popping lively.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_06]: It's hard to, like, say hi to everyone you want to say hi to and really, like, get to talk to people.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_06]: The episode's going.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_06]: So, I was like, let me come tap in with the baby boys for a cool, you know, five hours early.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_06]: And just hang out.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was a great time.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a little awkward for me at the party because Austin showed up.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And if you haven't been on TikTok, you know, Austin is official with Amanda Probst.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, she looking at me and I'm looking at her.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_03]: She looking me up and down.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking her up and down.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Austin's getting nervous.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_06]: I think Austin might have had crazy intentions.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Who knows?

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_06]: But I have a whole time back.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, there's a lot going on.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, Amanda pushed me.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I pushed her back.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And in the end, I guess the TikTok will be coming out soon.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_03]: But we're officially a trouble.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So, okay.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Austin thought he could get away from me.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, also real quick, I do want to talk about this.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Let me see if I can find it real quick.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_03]: As I was talking to Amanda, you know, world, it's so full circle we come.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Amanda showed me this photo while we were talking.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I got in.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_03]: That.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_04]: JT is in there, too.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So, shout out to my.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Was it like that?

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Our Kageyan reunion.

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_03]: The one that I didn't get to speak at.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_03]: But.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yo, shout out to Austin and Amanda.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And I guess, Bryce, I'm glad that you're in a truffle, first of all.

[00:10:09] Thank you.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_04]: But Amanda's family lives in Arizona and they pulled up on us for Extreme Makeover with Hillary Probst and Amanda and Austin.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_04]: So, shout out to them.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Amanda's really cool.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And Bryce, I was going to ask you if you would be down for a truffle with them, but it sounds like you're okay with sharing Austin.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, listen, we are.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm another sister wife.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I was a sister wife to Chris Underwood and his wife.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And now I am, you know, because I told Austin, listen, once you go black, baby, listen.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So, Austin couldn't be without me.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So, shout out to Mama Eva.

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm back in the family.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But, again, there were so many people.

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Dr. Maria, Tevin, Taylor, Hale from Big Brother, Aza.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Can we talk about Aza?

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Aza?

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, everybody knows Aza is very a petite woman.

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Aza is skinny.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Aza's still out.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_03]: For the last two weeks, Aza has been doing crunches.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And mind you, Aza want everybody to know.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I've seen Aza on the Royal Crown with Derek and Tiffany covering Big Brother.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I got to call my sister Aza out because what Aza said over there, she said, everybody

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_03]: was coming up to me saying, Aza, look at that booty.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I remember it the other way around.

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Aza was like, y'all see this booty?

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_03]: But listen, nevertheless, shout out to my sister.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Because she had, you know, she had a little boom, boom.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I said, I see you, Aza.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Bryce, you get booty from doing crunches?

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Squats.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Aza been doing her squats.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to comment on her body.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_04]: But yes, Aza came in the building looking beautiful.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know if people were noticing it or if Aza was pointing it out.

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes it's a vicious cycle, you know?

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Was she putting the Aza in Aza?

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_03]: She definitely was doing something.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_03]: We had some legends in the building.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_03]: We had Queen Sandra.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_03]: We had Sugar.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_03]: That was my first time meeting Sugar.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, Gabon is my favorite Survivor season.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So it was amazing.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_03]: There were so many people.

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_03]: But listen, we're here for one thing.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And that one thing is Survivor.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And we got a lot to talk about because there's a lot to get through on this episode.

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Jackery, take us for a lap.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, a lot to unpack.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_06]: And watching at the event, you don't catch everything.

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_06]: So today I had to go back and give it a rewatch and double dip.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_06]: But I feel like we might have some disagreements this episode.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like we might have some real questions to unpack.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe there's no right answers to some of these questions.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_06]: But let's take it from the top.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_06]: We get back to Lavo after they've just voted out Asia.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, Teenie tells us that she throws a vote on Seoul purely because she just didn't want to put a vote on Asia.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, kind of her balance of playing the game, but also, you know, having these emotions and dealing with that balance.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_06]: To me, we see this sometimes where people don't want to write so-and-so's name down.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_06]: But I feel like if you know that I'm going home, don't spare me the, oh, well, I didn't write your name down.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Because if you knew I was going home and you didn't stop it, that's the real problem.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_06]: But, I mean, what do you guys think about that?

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I'm, I don't know.

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I agree.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I agree.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And also, Asia's not on the jury.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think this could also be, I think, and I love Teenie.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I think she's playing a great game.

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_03]: But I also think that Teenie might know the community that Asia comes from.

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think maybe wanting to stay on the good graces of the, because we love Asia, right?

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And we stand Asia.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I'm not mad at Teenie making that decision because, listen, at the end of the day, I said it last week, I'll say it this week, get to the next day.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So, Teenie getting to the next day, I'm not mad.

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But I just also thought, like, I was surprised at how Seoul was consoling her.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_03]: He kind of really, like, Teenie really laid it on and was like, it was a hard decision for her.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And in a situation where Seoul could have been like, she could have been like, Mama Sue, you write my name down, I'm coming for you.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_03]: However, I think throughout this whole episode, Seoul has demonstrated to us his level, his level-headed mindset, right?

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that he could have been upset and been mad at Teenie.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But I also think Seoul is trying to play a longer game.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And so, what is it better, to console the person that wrote your name down or rage lava war?

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So, I tip my head off to Seoul for handling this really well.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, he's not been in a good position.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's very, he's being, he's older, and he's being calm under this pressure.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And when other people might want to swing on people, Seoul is like taking it easy and taking a breather and really exercising restraint.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_06]: So, and I mean, you take me right to my other, the other big storyline on this lava beach for a lot of the episode is Rome is just kind of, I don't know if harassing is the right word, but he is on Seoul like white on rice.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, Seoul wants to go get water.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_06]: So, once we just like go have thoughts on the beach and Rome is just like all over him.

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and, I mean.

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Seoul is like, I gotta take a poop, Rome.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Rome's like, I'm your toilet paper.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: What's up?

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a survivor.

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a survivor.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going anywhere.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_03]: What do you want?

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And mind you, that's the way that he gets up in Seoul's face though.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And mind you, it's like, as a viewer, I am steaming.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, Rome, if you, like, first of all, if Rome did that to me, you know what I would do?

[00:16:16] Pew, pew.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I will pluck his behind.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but at the same time, at the same time.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I don't know about the intensity level, Jack.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not mad.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like too, too much in, I also feel like he's playing like a, a Boston Rob game, right?

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Where it's like too much of survivor.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we leave up to chance.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Rome is like, I'm not leaving anything up to chance.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Mind you, you can dial it back a little bit, Rome.

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I get an offense, a offensive play, but you're in the Superbowl right now.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_03]: You're up a hundred to six.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I think you could take the starting line up out.

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Now, look, I mean, Rome's the type of guy in this situation who's a great ally.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, he's going to go above and beyond to make sure you guys are good.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's going to piss some people off and be a shield for you.

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_06]: But I mean, definitely watching it and empathizing with soul.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So soul's a lot better guy than I think most people would be.

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Cause at the very least, I'm probably cussing Rome out.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, okay.

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_03]: If that were me, the way that, yeah, if that were me and I'm in soul's position,

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_03]: knowing that I'm at the bottom and that this probably could be my last day on this tribe.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I am giving Rome a piece of my mother.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_03]: My, it's going to be a lot of, you don't get the, cause I'm about to, cause you a little,

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_03]: if y'all get these cameras out, cause I'm about to like, it's giving a lot of that.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think the best line of the day soul was like, am I real life?

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't let anybody talk to me, let alone somebody that size.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I said, Oh, Whoa.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_03]: But in the midst of all of this, it seems like an unlikely alliance is born.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if I go so far to say that, but I will say soul's composure here, you know,

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_06]: wins him a lot of the sympathy of the tribe.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_06]: And that could be a really crucial element to why he's able to navigate the rest of the episode,

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_06]: how he does.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_06]: So, I mean, hats off.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like soul is quickly becoming a fan favorite and he's definitely a standout for me.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_03]: He is my winner pick.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Again, I did it.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a look and soul really stood out for me.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I was really worried the first episode and the second episode.

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So remind, like, I feel like he's, I think Wendell, you said this a long time ago when

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_03]: you won ghost Island, you were what?

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_03]: 34, 35, 33.

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, here's the James Jones reference.

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_03]: James Jones believes that between 32 and 45 is the perfect winter age.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I agree.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And how old is soul?

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Like 41, 42?

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_04]: He's early forties.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I think something, you know, I'm not good at math, but you know, who's math.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I am good at.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Who's Sue's math.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause Sue and me, bitch, we do the same type of math.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Because Sue said, I'm 71, but I'm gonna tell these people I'm 45, baby.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I ain't never understand somebody speaking language so clearly.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Sue and listen, Sue and I was in the same algebra class.

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I do that math.

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm glad you brought that up.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Cause it's just so.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_06]: My mind boggling to me.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Not to like.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_06]: A, I don't think it matters that much.

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_06]: You sure.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_06]: She already told everyone she's a grandma.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Like if you're going to be looked at in that light, it doesn't really matter if you're 45

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_06]: or, you know.

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing.

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to be a grandma.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to be a Gigi.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to be a glam mom.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to be a, you know, Abuela B.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't want to just be a mom.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I just think age is like such an, like you are what you are.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Like the vibe you give off and the maturity that you have, whether you're lying and you're

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_06]: 20 and you're rounding up or you're 58 and you're rounding down.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's not, but look, I mean, no disrespect to Sue.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_06]: She does not look 45.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, Jack or Ray.

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's not, look, that's not a hot.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I know in life.

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Sue, you better get him.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I did not like that.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Let me look at it.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I know in life, there's only a tsunami coming.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Death taxes and never question a woman's age.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_06]: But when they round down 13 years, then I think it's in play.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, um, I don't know.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, especially maybe I'm a little biased, but my mom's 55.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And Jack or Ray.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_06]: I would say she, she looks very good for 55.

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_06]: She's very healthy.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Christine looks amazing.

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And so if I was out there and Sue told me she was 10 years younger than my mom, I would

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_06]: be like, ain't no way.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, ain't no way.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, we're all thinking it.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_06]: So, and now the thing is, this is where maybe Sue looks great for 58.

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'd rather hear you're 58 and be like, damn, Sue, you're like, you're pretty athletic.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_06]: You're looking sharp.

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, but then you're on.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_06]: No comment there, but.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_06]: But it's like, I'm like, I'd rather.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_06]: I think if I was 58, I'd rather people be like, you look good for 58.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_06]: They'd be like, no.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_06]: You look a little old.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Jack, I am a lady of a certain age.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But black don't crack, right?

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Jack, you ain't never lie there, Jack.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_06]: And Sue is not black.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I met Sue at the Brooklyn Beach Drop, at the Survivor Brooklyn Beach Drop.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And I have to say, Tsunami looks good.

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Sue looks good.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_03]: On the island, maybe 45 is a little stretch.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But when I met her in Brooklyn, I would have thought she was 42.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_03]: So Tsunami looks good.

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_03]: But I.

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's another thing that I also think.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And what I was saying, there's the perfect winter age.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Like 33 to 42.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I also feel like in that window.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Girl, it don't matter.

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Like you like you don't even need to say your age.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_03]: But.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_06]: She looks good for me.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_06]: But her lying about it is really accomplishing.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that it really has anything to do with Survivor.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Again, like I said, Jack, when you're a lady of a certain age, sometimes numbers scare you.

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I.

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_03]: My real age is 28.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a hard number for me.

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_03]: So I do tell people I'm 24.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It's only a four year difference.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, sometimes when you when you're a lady, Jack, you get older.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It's you know, it's a little different.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So I understand Sue.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Look, I don't.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Hey, in outside of Survivor, if you're if you're a lady of a certain age and maybe you're looking, you know, if you want to shave a couple of years off by all means.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_06]: But if you're on Survivor, you're like, well, I am 58.

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_06]: And then it's like, who are you trying to fool here?

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_06]: No, I look like Sue's playing a great game.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Like what I only say this because I feel like that's been a very public sentiment online is that it's a little bit of a stretch and it's a little bit wild.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_06]: But other than that, I love what Sue's bringing to the table.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_06]: So.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I would never if I would not if she.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Look, I just want to make it clear.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I would never question a woman's actual age.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, you just looks great for 58.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_06]: But it's just when you're making up that you're 13 years younger than I might step in and be like, well, let's slow down because aging is beautiful.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, look at how look at how he's trying.

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, Jack.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I wish Sue was older.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_04]: You want her to be a great grandma?

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Let me tell you what, Sue will beat your ass.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_04]: No, but I love Sue.

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_06]: All jokes aside.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_06]: This brings us to a very fun, one of the most fun moments of the season is this beware advantage with this red paint that Sue is involved in.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, she grabs it.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Hands are covered.

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_06]: She gets caught red handed, as they say.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And she kind of covers it up.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_06]: She she covers it up as bad as well as she's covering up the lie about her age.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, I had to double down.

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_06]: But it was her just waiting at the well.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, with the hands.

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, do you want to play?

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You got blood on your face.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-uh.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I had cut myself with the machete.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I bet you're back on my phone.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_03]: It was the way that she was like, I'm going to just stay here.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And Tiana was like, all right.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what you going on.

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what is happening.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's weird.

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm going to let you go, sis.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I thought Survivor covered this during this particular, but I'm confused.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_03]: But shout out to Sue.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Here was what pissed me off about this beware advantage.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_03]: So when it comes back in the game, y'all just make it easier?

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Skin a little bit.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_06]: I think they love that red paint thing, though.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So it's like they want it to be found, you know?

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_03]: So anybody playing Survivor out there that's going to be on the next couple of seasons,

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_03]: if this happens, catch it.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, like so it doesn't break?

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I feel like if Sue would have chopped it and just gently released the rope up a little bit,

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_03]: it wouldn't have splattered so much.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you're not that coordinated.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Let me ask you a question.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_03]: If Andy, if this happened to Andy, how good do you think my man Andy would have been at covering this up?

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_04]: No comment.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he would have laid down in it and saved his head.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Jeff, I need medical.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I need everything.

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I gave it my all.

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_03]: But talking about Andy, can we go to Lavu?

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it Lavu?

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Gata.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Gata.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Gata.

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about Sam rapping, Jack?

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, Jack, you are a white boy that can rap yourself.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_03]: So what do you think?

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Look, did Sam have some bars?

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_06]: But to me, when I, you know, indulge in some freestyling, that's a sacred activity that I like to keep between me and my homies when we might be a little bit tipsy.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I'm not one to say that if I'm sober and I just start rapping, it's not a good look.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_06]: If we're back in my place at the after party and it's just me and a couple of my close bros and we want to mess around, it's a great time.

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Would you catch me freestyling on national television?

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_06]: No.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_06]: No.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's kind of what I'll say.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, it's just, it's just a tough, it's a tough path to navigate.

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_03]: For me, what was so funny was Sam got in a good 16 bars and then he's like, well, it was, it was all right.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It was all right.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_03]: He was getting it off.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I think, well, Wendell, you're well-versed in, you know, being with young, attractive, handsome rappers on the island.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_03]: What would you say to Sam?

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_04]: My only thought, Sam, love you, but stop rapping.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_04]: You're trash at rapping.

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Put the mic down, bro.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Put the pen down, bro.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Love you, but you need to use an eraser.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Had to, hey, I had to, Sam, we love you, but I don't, I think there should be a no freestyling rule on the island going forward.

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I agree.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we're not on the island, but since y'all are being so hard on Sam, give me, give me some bars, Sam, Wendell and Jack about gotcha.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Little, little, little gotcha.

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Gotcha.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh-huh.

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh-huh.

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Gotcha.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Go ahead, Bryce.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_04]: That was what you got?

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a rapper.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a podcaster.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a third boot.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't got to.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I like it.

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't got no bars.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't say that somebody has no bars and then.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Come on.

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see if you can pop some trash bars.

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't do this.

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't, I can't say everything.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Come on.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, y'all scared now?

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Nah, we need you out here.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all scared.

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Come on, give me a bar, Jack.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Jack?

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, I might have to write something down.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I can't go off.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I can't, I can't, I can't give Sam shit for not rapping and then.

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just saying.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_06]: For rapping, yes.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Here's what we'll do.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll drop a bar.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll pass it to Jack.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_04]: He passes the break.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_04]: He passes to me.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_04]: He passes the break.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that.

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_04]: It's your baby boys from Survivor News.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, you're just doing one?

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Coming back through, trying to see and cruise.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Y'all keep it going.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I can't, I can't stand black and then, and then, and then pick up and lay down some bad

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_03]: So here's the thing.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_03]: If you can't rap Jack, just say that.

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_06]: If I was, if I was four beers deep, I'd be looking like Eminem out here, but.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my goodness.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_03]: We ain't talking nine miles.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking, pick up your socks and get to the gatta.

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It don't have to.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It don't have to ram.

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It don't have to rhyme.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause I'm not on that time.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I got the mic in my hand and I'm about to go grind.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you don't have to tell us about your extracurriculars.

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I just didn't know about you.

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what rhymes with that.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm good.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Jack, what you got?

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_06]: The extracurriculars was a tough, uh, that was a tough one, right?

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_06]: That was a tough one.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_06]: You can circle back to me later.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Jack.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I got, I'll start.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I just said, I have, I have my, my certain, you know, rules in place.

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I can't just, you know, when Q was on, maybe that was an exception.

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, well, Jack, I'm sorry.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Then you can't opine on Sam's rap skill.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm the only person that can do that.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, love you.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_06]: But you opined on Sam's rap skills and then said extracurricular.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_06]: It couldn't rhyme.

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, Jack.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I could say, wait, he said extracurricular.

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't get too particular.

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't get too particular.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You were going on too particular.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_03]: We speak a horizontal.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to figure out where is the right parantu.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So we could just make up words out of air.

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to mess up my hair, hair, hair.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry about your hair.

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause there's another hair, not talking rabbit, but I am talking habit.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Habit of spitting.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Spitting on the it-in.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all want to mess with the boy.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause I'm little.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Can we continue this episode?

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, back.

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk about my main man, Andy.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Andy is, he is gaining his steam.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, now I think although Sam might not be the greatest at rapping.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I definitely think Sam made a pivotal mistake this episode.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, when Sierra was talking, well, we know the girls alliance.

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Breadwinners.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Love that.

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Love the girls working together.

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Andy is working on his relationship with Sierra.

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Sierra tells him the name of the alliance.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Andy immediately tells this information to Sam.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Sam does not take this information well and kind of goes to Sierra.

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I definitely think that this was a huge mistake for Sam.

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that Sam should have held this information in, um, and seen how Sierra moves.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's important to be fluid in this game.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And although he has built this relationship with Sierra, I think that if we are going off

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_03]: of blind trust, Andy has been more trustworthy than Sierra because Sierra and Sam have been

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_03]: locked in.

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Andy has been giving jewel after jewel and showing himself.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So I really think that this is a situation where it's like, Sam kind of effed up Andy

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_03]: a little bit because now it's like he threw Andy under the bus to kind of like get to his

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_03]: relationship with Sierra when really he could have just held this in and knowledge is power

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_03]: in the game.

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Your thoughts, Jack?

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I totally agree.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like if, if I see where Sam's coming from, you know, you want to check in and it's

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_06]: probably a little bit concerning when Sierra's telling Andy stuff, but not you.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_06]: But at the same time, if you want to bring Andy in as your third and bring Sierra and

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Andy together as a, as a three, then, you know, Sierra's telling him stuff.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_06]: That's probably a good thing.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_06]: And if you're then going back and showing that Andy is closer to you than he is to Sierra

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_06]: and showing that to Sierra, then she's not going to feel as good about working with Andy

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_06]: for that exact reason.

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_06]: So kind of counterproductive to, uh, the group that Sam was trying to build.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_03]: So I almost feel like Sam should have just asked more probing questions to Sierra.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, let me see, like, you know, like y'all getting kind of close, like what's going on

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_03]: over there?

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of like leading her because I feel like that would have even been a better barometer

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_03]: for Sam to be like, all right, I'm leading you to the water.

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And now you're not even completely drinking the water at all.

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Now my red flags need to go up.

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, but it seems like Sierra and Sam are able to somewhat recover.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_03]: They are brother and sister, not boyfriend and girlfriend out there.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_03]: So they're fighting like brothers and sisters, but it seems still seems like they want to

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_03]: work together.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I just think that.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you said, Bryce, I just think that in this case, Sam, just, just don't be so reactive.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Just hold it in, take a breath and make some observations first.

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Cause obviously like, I mean, it's easier watching, but I feel like Sam could pretty comfortably

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_06]: assume he's closer with Sierra than with Andy.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_06]: But if he's trying to build this bridge, then it's like, maybe Sierra was going to tell

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Andy some info that she's going to tell you a little bit later just to try to like win

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_06]: him over.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's just like how people have to play the game.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_06]: So you get, like you said, you don't want to be too reactive and make Sierra feel off

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_06]: put by anything by, by coming to her and, and laying down this info and being kind of

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_06]: a little bit confrontational.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_06]: But I love it.

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I think Sierra's in a great spot.

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_03]: She is.

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think ultimately this really just messes up Sam's game the most because now it's

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_03]: like Sierra wants to get rid of Andy.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And now Andy has proven himself loyal to Sam.

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And now if Sam puts up a fight about Andy, then that just causes so much more turmoil.

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, well, how close are you really to Andy?

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And in all of this, Andy just being Andy is somewhere in a great spot a little bit.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, cause he's just like, he's just trying to get close to Sierra.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he's like telling Sam, thinking that there are a truffle, but now it's like,

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_03]: you've kind of cracked the truffle a little bit and being how just innocent Andy is.

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like he could potentially sway Sierra's way or continue to work with Sam.

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So again, I think Andy has put himself in a great position, not knowing, right?

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Like Andy has Andy yet again.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And I love every into a great position.

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_06]: So those are kind of the main, the main things going down on the tribes before we get into

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_06]: the immunity challenge.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Should we, should we dive into the immunity?

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Cause there's a lot to go over during and after.

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, I don't, I don't feel like the challenge itself needs too much recapping,

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_06]: but a big standout for me was, you know, Rome doesn't get a single piece, which is pretty

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_06]: crazy.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I think part of me thought maybe he was throwing it at times, but it seemed like he, in his

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_06]: confessionals after like genuinely was trying to do it and like owned up that he failed it

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_06]: and it was embarrassing.

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, it was definitely a disaster for Rome and the Lavo tribe.

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Did anything else stick out to you guys from this challenge?

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_03]: For me, it showed me that Rome is playing a very Rome-like game, but I feel like his downfall

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_03]: is going to be his need to want to be the center of attention.

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Or just plenty of times Saul was there saying like, do you want me to, like, I can tag in.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Rome was like, no.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Another thing that I thought was interesting when Jeff was like asking about what happened,

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Rome didn't really seem to, yeah, Rome said it was embarrassing, but he was embarrassed

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_03]: that his family and friends were going to watch this at home.

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Not like, darn, my team just took an L, we're going to have to go to tribal again.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It still was like, even though y'all lost, it still was about the Rome show.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, ah, my mom's going to watch this and see I couldn't get a puzzle.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_06]: The Rome show ratings are going to take a hit after this.

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Another thing I thought was interesting was that this reward was chickens, three hens,

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_06]: and that sparked some debate back at the Gata camp about what to do with the chickens.

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And I wanted to ask you guys, you know, having been out there with that food situation,

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_06]: what do you think the best way to handle three chickens is?

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you kill all of them?

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you kill none of them?

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you kill, or I guess it's a little bit off, but what do you do?

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_03]: If you have three chickens, one, here's the thing.

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I missed the challenge.

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_03]: If I would have stayed in one more time, I would have been on the Salana tribe when they

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_03]: got the chickens.

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't actually have hands-on experience with chickens, right?

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But the stories that I have heard, the chickens can be finicky.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes they are so stressed out there on the island, they don't produce eggs at times.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I would take the celebration and unfortunately have to slaughter a chicken, leaving two chickens

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_03]: to still bear eggs, and we can still celebrate with a little chicken.

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_04]: On Winners at War, we won chickens.

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And...

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_04]: On the edge of extinction?

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_04]: No, because I was in it for...

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I made it to the merge, Bryce.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay.

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_04]: So...

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll come on the merge island, but I mean...

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_04]: So...

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was just like, I'll do what the tribe wants, but I'd prefer not to kill the chickens.

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'd prefer to eat the eggs.

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And I want to say...

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But I want to say they lay eggs so sparsely.

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like one a day or something like that.

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_04]: So...

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And if that's the case, then would you rather get three eggs every day for your tribe, or

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_04]: would you rather have three whole chickens to eat?

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I would have a whole chicken to eat.

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And you didn't want to kill the chicken because you didn't want to slaughter it, or you were

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_03]: just too scared to slaughter it?

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't want to slaughter it.

[00:41:38] Further...

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't want to slaughter the chicken.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_03]: In L.A., we were at third base for our L.A. party, right?

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Where were you, myself, your cousin Justin, and a shirtless Joey after the party wrapped up?

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_03]: We were out in front of third base L.A.

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, I was ready to go home, but we couldn't go home because you and Joey had ordered

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Korean barbecue what?

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Fried chicken.

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So you don't want to slaughter a chicken, but at 2 a.m. L.A. time, which really is 5 a.m.,

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Jack, you want to stand outside and have a chicken slaughtered Korean barbecue style.

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_03]: You'd be like, this is the best chicken ever.

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Bryce, you take a piece now because you're not going to get a piece later.

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So you'll slaughter a chicken then, but you don't want to slaughter a chicken to feed

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_03]: a tribe.

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't slaughter a chicken in L.A.

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_04]: You absolutely slaughtered Jack.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So...

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I annihilated the fried chicken.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm kind of...

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm generally kind of with you guys.

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I think you eat one right away, probably.

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I also think maybe before, you know, the day before, like, the next immunity challenge,

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_06]: maybe you eat another and make sure everyone's, like, fueled up, ready to go.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_06]: But, of course, it's nice to have some eggs being like...

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Because you don't need three chickens all at once, you know, so you got to space it out.

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_06]: But also, if you swap or you merge, you guys might not get the benefits of those chickens

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_06]: as if, you know, you had them right there.

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_06]: The thing I will say, I kind of agree with Wendell.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I wouldn't want to be the guy to, like, snap the chicken's neck.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I don't really know how to do that.

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_06]: If I mess up and it's, like, halfway...

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Now, wait a minute, Jack.

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a disaster.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, wait a minute.

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_03]: You've never...

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_03]: You've never...

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_03]: You've...

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_03]: He's about to say something really wild right now.

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_03]: He's about to say something really cool.

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what he's about to say?

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I've never choked a chicken.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all are so lucky I cracked myself up.

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_03]: You've never choked a chicken, Jack?

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Only personal chicken.

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no.

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Enough is enough.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_03]: That's not enough.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_03]: That's not enough.

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Not enough experience.

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Those chickens will be gone before they got back to camp.

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_06]: They'd be so choked.

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I choked a couple of chickens in my life.

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And you got...

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait, your mic went out.

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_06]: You choked the chicken too hard.

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Hit my back on.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_03]: You got to grab...

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to explain to the future survivors.

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, go ahead.

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_03]: How do you do it, Bryce?

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_03]: The two-hand operation works really best.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And sometimes the chicken might move a little bit.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And you got to throw a little spit on it.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_06]: That is insane.

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Why are you disrespecting the chicken?

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't tell me...

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_04]: The proper technique, if you're really from the country...

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_04]: To choke a chicken?

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_04]: You grab it by its neck.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And you ring it.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_04]: You ring its neck.

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh!

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_04]: That's how...

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the...

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_04]: That's like those...

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Like...

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_04]: You could chop a chicken's head off, yeah.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But like those country mofos, they will just grab it and...

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_04]: How would I grab it?

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, Bryce.

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_04]: They give it the cluck cluck.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh!

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh!

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_06]: No, but I...

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Genuinely...

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Like...

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I...

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry for the...

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_06]: The innuendo, but...

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I would not feel great being the one to...

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_06]: To kill the chicken.

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And so...

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Jack, I was just at your house.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_03]: You have a freezer full...

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll eat chicken.

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_03]: ...that has chicken on it.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think this is a hot take that you could eat chicken without being the one to

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_06]: want to ring the chicken.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, but...

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_03]: If you have to survive, you have to survive.

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, you...

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I would hope someone else would be wanting to do it.

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Now, I worry that maybe I would be not seen as...

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, a lot of times it's the more...

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Like the bigger guy who's like, all right, like...

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_06]: You gotta go kill the chicken.

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, I don't really want to do that.

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I would do it.

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, let me just...

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Settle a debate for me, Wendell and Jack.

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_03]: What comes first, the chicken or the egg?

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Settle a debate for you.

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I think the egg.

[00:46:31] Yeah.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_06]: I know this is like a little classic question, but...

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I would say the egg.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:46:44] Because...

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, like...

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_06]: The chicken would be...

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_06]: That's a good deep into it, because I know it's like a silly question.

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_06]: The chicken would be like a result of like other things breeding.

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, and maybe, you know...

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Slightly different thing from a chicken and slightly other different thing from a chicken.

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, maybe they get together.

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_06]: And then the result is this modification that's a chicken, which would come from the egg.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_06]: And then it would, you know...

[00:47:14] So...

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Because the chicken doesn't just appear.

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Nor does an egg.

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_04]: He just explained how the egg would appear.

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Watch me on Easter.

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, you don't find a lot of eggs.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I just was curious your thoughts.

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think?

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Jesus.

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Amen.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_06]: They showed up at the same time.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah.

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I...

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It is a...

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_03]: A conundrum.

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But...

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I definitely think the egg would have to come first, but the egg has to come from something.

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So...

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, it's like...

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Say you...

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Say like a golden retriever and like a poodle.

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe they get together.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And they get a golden doodle.

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_06]: But the golden doodle was, you know, kind of...

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_06]: It didn't come out of an egg, but it was in that sort of...

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_03]: ...stage beforehand.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I see what you fry in.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I can agree to that.

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll go with that.

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_06]: But...

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I guess if I knew the answer, this wouldn't be a question.

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_06]: So, who knows?

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Can we get back to Survivor News, please?

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I apologize to the listeners for the last five minutes of this chicken and the egg ridiculousness.

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It was quick.

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_06]: It was a quick exploration.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_06]: It was a quick...

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll get that five minutes back.

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, sorry.

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_06]: And then the other big takeaway from the challenge is that there's going to be a journey.

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_06]: And Gata gets to pick who goes.

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's Andy, Teenie, and Caroline.

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_06]: And this journey, essentially, they are forced...

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Someone has to give up their vote or they all lose their vote.

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_06]: And if someone does give up the vote, then they get a shared advantage.

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And Andy and Caroline sort of strong up and say, we need our votes.

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_06]: We're not giving up the votes.

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_06]: And Teenie's kind of like, well, it seems like it's going to be Seoul or Rome.

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_06]: So, I guess I can give up my vote.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I guess everyone has a different perspective in this group here.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_06]: But going into something like this, how do you guys feel like...

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_06]: What's the right approach?

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_03]: One, I just feel like on these journeys, they're sharing too much information.

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm like, where's the strategy, right?

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But I also feel like I was a little disappointed at Teenie because I feel like they put it on her.

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_03]: But I would have wanted Teenie to be a little more Rome-like in this situation and be like, I'm going to tribal.

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm out of the option.

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I was a little annoyed at, like, how they put it on Teenie because it's like, wait a minute.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all not going to tribal.

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It has to be one of y'all.

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_03]: But I also feel like it is in this Survivor era, right?

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_03]: You saw how Andy spoke up first.

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like if Teenie would have jumped in immediately after Andy, it would have left Caroline.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And, like, the pressure would have then been on Caroline.

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I really feel like the only pressure that it was on Teenie is because she was the last person to go.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And so, I really feel like in this challenge or in this type of scenario, according to Jet, you got to be the egg and come first.

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And, like, put out your reason.

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't just wait for the chicken to come.

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It might have helped for her to kind of jump in there.

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_04]: But also, yeah, I think in this case, you literally are the one going to tribal tonight.

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Stand your ground.

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Although, I just...

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead.

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I was going to talk a little bit more about the amulet.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So, no, finish your point, Jack.

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, yeah, I was going to say, I see where Teenie is coming from because it seems like Andy and Caroline have, like, semi-valid reasons they don't really want to budge.

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And, of course, if everyone loses their vote, that's not really ideal either.

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_06]: So, you want to be, like, the bigger person and maybe be like, oh, well, if I could take a little hit here, maybe that'll help my relationship with these other people.

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_06]: And from Teenie's perspective, they're in a pretty good spot with this impending tribal.

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_06]: But at the same time, you don't want to be too quick to give up the vote.

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_06]: So, yeah, I definitely wish we saw Teenie do a little bit more, at least try, like, a little bit more pushing back, I think.

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_06]: And you're right, jumping in quicker is a little bit easier because once Andy and Caroline state their case, then it's sort of like, well, Teenie, you said you felt decent.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_06]: So, and it's hard to be like, well.

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Another thing is it looks like if Teenie would have held out for two more seconds, it looked like Caroline was about to say, I'll do it.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I did notice that.

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And what do you think about these new ambulance, right?

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, ambulance.

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I believe in the old ambulance, it was more ambulance.

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Ambulance.

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Ambulance.

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I like the last one.

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_03]: The ambulance?

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_03]: The ambulance.

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Ambulance.

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Ambulance.

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I believe in the old ambulance.

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It was more, it was more, the way it read, it was more of incentive to kind of like cannibalize.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And these ambulance.

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Ambulance.

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, once we come together, we are good.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_03]: If one of them goes away, two are still good.

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_03]: The only one is left and it's just an idol.

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_03]: But we are the ambulance.

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Ambulance.

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the old ambulance was, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm out for myself.

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's three of us.

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Two y'all gotta go.

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I need the full ambulance.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just me and my homies.

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking them out.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Ba-dum, bump, bump, bump.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's how I felt like the old ambulance song went.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I do think, I agree.

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I think the old ambulance were more, because they, you know, the power built too when you

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_06]: took the others out.

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_06]: But I still do feel like these ones, it's a tough world to see where three people from

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_06]: three different tribes can come together and all cohesively agree to, right?

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_06]: So it still sort of is a target to be like, let me, maybe it's a little bit easier when

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_06]: there's two and, you know, maybe Andy and Teenie become allies and then they can play

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_06]: it together.

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_06]: But it's still, I think everyone in the back of their head is always going to be like,

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_06]: let me, I need to be selfish here.

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, let me, it takes a very specific set of circumstances for it to work in a good way

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_06]: and not be a target.

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Especially when you have all three of these people going back and saying everything to

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_04]: everyone.

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_04]: So now everyone knows what three people have this bond and that can put a target on these,

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_04]: that can put a target on them.

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_06]: And there's two things.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, go ahead, Brad.

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I was just going to say like, you know, cause I love my man Andy and I feel like here was

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_03]: another masterclass of Andy ending.

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Andy immediately went out there, was like, I'm at the bottom.

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really have much like sway in the group.

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And again, it worked to his benefit.

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_03]: He got to come back to the tribe, tell the tribe everything that happened.

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know.

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I just felt like Andy, Andy, you can tell that Andy is a player in the game, right?

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_03]: He may not execute everything well.

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It might be a little awkward, but hearing his rationale, hearing him like describe like,

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah, I'm going to tell them I'm on the outs.

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm on the bottom.

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Like really kind of making a case for him not to be the one to lose his vote.

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I just feel like Andy's just putting himself in a really good position.

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like he took that tough first episode, embraced his position and is now playing a

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_06]: smart game from sort of this perceived bottom, which is, which is good for Andy.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm excited to see that.

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Now the two questions I kind of have about the amulet and I, I don't really know, like

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm curious to hear your guys' thoughts is a, if you're on this journey and there's this

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_06]: promise of this like group reward, is there ever a time to just be like, you know what?

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I will lose my vote because I think this group amulet, you don't know it's an amulet, but

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_06]: like you can kind of maybe pick up from previous seasons.

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Something like this is like, could that be more detrimental to my game than just like all

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_06]: of us losing our vote.

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Now it's hard to imagine that would ever really happen.

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_06]: My other thing is, is there some weird advantage actually to everybody knowing about these amulets?

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Because if I'm any other player in the game, I'm like, are all three of them really going

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_06]: to use it together?

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Probably not.

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_06]: So maybe I actually don't want to vote any of these people out because then inevitably

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_06]: they will become an idol.

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_06]: So if I'm like a Sam, maybe I'm like, let me just not target these people because if

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_06]: these people go home, then there is another idol, like without a doubt.

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And so maybe I don't really know, like there's a weird thing there.

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Cause it's like, maybe you vote people out earlier with them to get rid of the idol quicker

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_06]: or whatever.

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_06]: But it's like, but if you leave people too long that, you know, someone's going to have

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_06]: an idol at like final five.

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_06]: There's like a weird dynamic that it adds that I think is really interesting.

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't know, how do you guys think it could affect the game in ways that maybe we

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_06]: don't really predict sort of?

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, my definitely prediction is I could see Carolyn and Andy wanting to be kumbaya and

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_03]: work together.

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I definitely could see teeny being the one to maybe want to pull the trigger and take

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_03]: out a Carolyn or Andy is like my perception of it, but it wasn't really your question,

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_04]: but that's how I, I just think it's going to be something.

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Something looming in everyone's thoughts.

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I think we lost your audio for a second.

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Mike went out.

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause you can't rap.

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_06]: You said it's going to be in everyone's thoughts.

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And then, and what?

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Your mic is still out.

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_04]: You just think what?

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I just think it's going to be something looming in everyone's thoughts.

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And now it's going to make them like over scrutinize these three people once or two

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_04]: people, however many people make it to the merge.

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I think people will always be watching them and, and just, yeah, I don't think it's going

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_04]: to be a deterrent for people not to vote for them.

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like this could be the ammunition that Sierra could use for the breadwinners to take

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_03]: a shot at Andy.

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, if they go to tribal.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Because the amulet very clearly read.

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like someone can vote someone out.

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You can take the amulet.

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Like the, the writing said you three.

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_03]: So I will assume that the amulet is something that is bestowed upon you, that it has to be

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_03]: these three.

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So I could see it make it making all of them more of a target.

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Pre-merge.

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_06]: True.

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_06]: That's, that's why I'm like so interested.

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Cause if I'm Sierra and I'm like, well, if I vote out Andy, now there's going to be

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_06]: two people from that.

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_06]: But I don't know who now have an idol between them.

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_06]: So it's like, but no, but I agree with you because it's like, I don't really know how

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_06]: it's going to, but I guess ultimately I sort of agree with Wendell on that, whether it's,

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_06]: you know, maybe a deterrent or maybe it's a, it's a target.

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's going to have these three players on other people's minds more.

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And I would say that's a bad thing.

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_06]: So.

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_03]: But I wasn't comprehending what you said though.

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_03]: That actually is a great point though, Jack.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Like maybe we keep our people with the ambulance because if we take one of them out, then it's

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_03]: two people that we don't know that can, can control the idol.

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's easier to play.

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_03]: So actually, that's actually a solid case to want to keep them in because at least, you

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_03]: know, I'll stay close with Andy or someone will want to stay close with Carolyn or someone

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_03]: will want to stay close with Teenie to have, to be in the know of how that ambulance.

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Definitely.

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_06]: But, and then at the same time, it's like, well, if you continue to keep them in.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_06]: And all three of them are in at like the final six or whatever, and then someone ends up

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_06]: with a full idol at like final five, whatever.

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_06]: That's maybe more of a threat than if they have to, they have it early.

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like a weird.

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_04]: If the three of them make it to final six, this is still a case where all three have to

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_04]: be brought together and used as one.

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So if the three make it that far, I, I could almost see them not being on the same page

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_04]: and.

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_06]: For sure.

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_06]: But then I, I meant that to say, it's like, maybe they vote out Andy.

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_06]: And then at the final five now, Caroline and Teenie have an idol.

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_06]: And if they're working together, then, you know, someone having an idol at five is a little

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_06]: bit more scarier than someone having it at like 12 because there's just like fewer other

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_06]: options to do.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, I guess maybe there's, there's not a good answer.

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_06]: And basically I'm just, that's all to say, like, I'm interested to see how it affects

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_06]: the game.

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's a fun twist.

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Other than that, we have, you know, a looming tribal for the Lavo tribe.

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think that this, I think it might be fair to say that this could be the most interesting

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_06]: dynamic pre-tribal that we've seen all season.

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Teenie's still gone at the journey and Rome and Sol still going at it.

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_06]: That Rome, I guess it starts off with Rome sort of issuing like an ultimatum to Sol.

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't a threat.

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't a threat.

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_06]: It was an ultimatum basically saying, if you give me your shot in the dark, I'll steal

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_06]: with Genevieve's vote and we can, and then we can vote her out.

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_06]: And, but if you don't, then I'm going to steal your vote and vote you out and there's

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_06]: nothing you can do about it.

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So my logic with that, with Rome is that like, Sol knows you and Genevieve are close.

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So like, in what world does that make sense?

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So when Sol is like, absolutely not, like, it's just, yeah, that's why I'm just like,

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Rome, what are you doing here?

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you could have, you could have come a little better.

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And then it's like, when Rome gets his eyes going and he's like, either or, like, it's

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_03]: just like, Rome.

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was, it was mad because in Sol's shoes, it's like, well, if you actually want

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_06]: to work with me, then just, we could just, you have a steal of vote.

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_06]: We could just vote whoever out.

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, what, why do you need, if, why do you want my shot in the dark so bad?

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Because you want to vote me out.

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Did we think this was a threat or an ultimatum or, or both?

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was a, what do they call it?

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_03]: When like, I think it was a.

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Strong arm.

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: A strong arm.

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_03]: What do they call it?

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, when you're a boss and you can't like go out with somebody that you work with because

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_03]: that's.

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Say it again.

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_06]: A conflict of interest.

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Not a conflict of interest.

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Like a.

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Policy.

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, like a.

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Like a.

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Like a.

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Power dynamic.

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like, like, I don't even know if it was a threat.

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It was just definitely Rome.

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Welding.

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Welding.

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Throwing his power around.

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, and it just like, just really strong arming her.

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Strong arming him.

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Like Wendell said.

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah.

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, like, what are we doing?

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And that does remind me earlier in the episode when.

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Rome was like.

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_06]: See, you shouldn't be looking for an idol.

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_06]: If you keep doing it, we're going to vote you out.

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_06]: He's like, when you're at the top, like me, you can look whenever you want.

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_06]: But you are at the bottom.

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, that was really like.

[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Like.

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how soul is so patient because that kind of line is like.

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_06]: But.

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_06]: What are you talking about?

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Let me ask you this though.

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Culturally.

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_03]: In Survivor.

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Was Rome telling a lie though?

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_04]: He wasn't lying, but some things.

[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_04]: What's understood doesn't.

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But also.

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, yes.

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_06]: But also if you are at the bottom.

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Then you might as well look.

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_06]: And honestly.

[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Just the act of looking could make people worry that you have it.

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_06]: So if soul was just chilling.

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like.

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_06]: In a way, it makes them easier to vote out.

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm just trying to figure out.

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Was Rome at the top of the.

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_03]: The top of the tribe or at the bottom of the tribe.

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_03]: When his feet was dangling in the well.

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Because.

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of sounding like a hypocrite.

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_03]: That was the craziest thing ever though.

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that was like.

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Like Rome.

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_03]: What are you doing?

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But also.

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Was my jaw dropped?

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And was I locked into the TV?

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And Rome saying this to soul?

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that was crazy.

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_06]: And.

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_06]: And Rome correcting him.

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Like.

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Not a threat.

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_06]: It's an ultimatum.

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_06]: And soul was like.

[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah.

[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_06]: My bad bro.

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought that was so funny.

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean.

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's.

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_06]: It's both.

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Like.

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I see why in Rome's mind.

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_06]: He thinks it's an ultimatum.

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_06]: But if I say like.

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_06]: If I tell like a significant other.

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh you need to just let me go through your phone.

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Or I'm breaking up with you.

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_06]: That is an ultimatum.

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_06]: But that's also a threat.

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_06]: So.

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Is.

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_03]: If you're a convenience store owner.

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And I come in with a gun.

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And I say.

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Give me all your money.

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Or I'm going to.

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Pew pew you.

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that an ultimatum.

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Or a threat.

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Rome would be like.

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Well if you just do what he says.

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Like.

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm at the top with this gun.

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_06]: I can do what I want.

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_06]: That's the steal of oath.

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Rome's like.

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I can use this.

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I can be.

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I can use this at the score.

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_06]: I can.

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_06]: It's ridiculous.

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_06]: But.

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_06]: You know.

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_06]: That's sort of the initial dynamic.

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_06]: But we see.

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Quickly that other dynamics.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Are at play.

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Keyshawn.

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Thinks that.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Rome has a steal of oath.

[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_06]: But.

[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Even if Teenie doesn't have a vote.

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_06]: We could all use ours.

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_06]: And.

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Vote for Rome.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_06]: And if there's a re-vote.

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Then Rome doesn't get that stolen vote.

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_06]: And we send home Rome.

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Um.

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Which I think on paper.

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Great plan.

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_06]: But I think.

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Sort of the simple moment.

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Where to me.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Everything kind of unraveled.

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Is.

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Keyshawn.

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Then giving a confession.

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_06]: It was like.

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I know Rome and Genevieve are really close.

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_06]: So I want to pull in Genevieve.

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_06]: To vote out Rome.

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Because it'll be good for my game.

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like.

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Well.

[01:06:03] [SPEAKER_06]: You just said that.

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Genevieve is close with Rome.

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Why would she do that?

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_06]: And.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_06]: It's also.

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Him not knowing the result of Teenie's.

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Journey.

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I think is also really important.

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Because.

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Sure.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_06]: He rightfully assumes she might lose her vote.

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_06]: But at the same time.

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe they come back with.

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_06]: An advantage of their own.

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Or.

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Or.

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Or whatever.

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_06]: That could completely alter.

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_06]: How you have to.

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Like lay this plan down.

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_06]: But to me.

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean.

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought Keyshawn.

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Really did play a solid game.

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_06]: For going home.

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Where he did.

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_06]: But.

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_06]: This plan.

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Hinging on Genevieve.

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Turning on her number one.

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_06]: In order to benefit you.

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Is just sort of.

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_06]: You can kind of see.

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Why that probably wouldn't work.

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_06]: And.

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_06]: What.

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And then.

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_06]: You know.

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_06]: We end up seeing Genevieve.

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Diagnoses this.

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Goes behind the scenes.

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Really some shades of like.

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Kim Spradlin to me.

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Where.

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Genevieve is able to get.

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Sol and Rome to make amends.

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Able to get them.

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_06]: To basically.

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Execute her plan.

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And she.

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Has a lot of good social game.

[01:07:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And communication here.

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Sort of.

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Unlike Rome has had.

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Where.

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_06]: She kind of lays this plan out.

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And guides everybody to it.

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Without like.

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Laying down.

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Like strong arms.

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_06]: But.

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I guess.

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Out of like.

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Keyshawn and Genevieve here.

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Like what really stuck out to you guys.

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_06]: As being particularly good.

[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Or bad.

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean.

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_03]: For me.

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I love Dr. Patel.

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that.

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Genevieve hearing from Rome.

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_03]: That she was the decoy.

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_03]: My first thing comes to mind.

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Keyshawn.

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Why would you not like.

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Why would you allow her.

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_03]: To hear that from Rome.

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that should have been something.

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_03]: That you brought to her.

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Then my second question is.

[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_03]: To Genevieve.

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Genevieve.

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Well you were the decoy.

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_03]: In Rome's own plan.

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_03]: To Saul.

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And you didn't have a problem with that.

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_03]: So.

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It just leads me to believe.

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_03]: That I don't know if Genevieve.

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Was ever really with Keyshawn.

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_03]: We've seen nothing of the sorts.

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Thus far.

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_03]: But I thought it was a really great plan.

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_03]: For Keyshawn.

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I just.

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was a great.

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm like.

[01:08:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh.

[01:08:02] [SPEAKER_03]: What's happening here?

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I.

[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought.

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I admire Keyshawn.

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_04]: For trying to make that move.

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And shoot that.

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Shot.

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I respect Genevieve's play.

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like.

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Definitely.

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_04]: She had to activate.

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And she activated.

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Came out of nowhere.

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_04]: For sure.

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And for her.

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a rocket.

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Shooting out of the ocean.

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: We're forced.

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Episodes in.

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And she's just been.

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_03]: What we've seen of her.

[01:08:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Or how many confessionals.

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Have we had of her.

[01:08:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Have really just been tied to Rome.

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Nothing of her own sort.

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And so for her.

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_03]: To come out.

[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Like this shooting rocket.

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's 4th of July.

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And popping into the air.

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like.

[01:08:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[01:08:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I do see a Kim.

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Kim Spradlin.

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Or something like.

[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I got my eye on her now.

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_03]: That was a great.

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you feel like.

[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Keyshawn's move.

[01:08:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Against Rome.

[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Given the power.

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_03]: That Rome has.

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And the tribe is so small.

[01:08:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think it was premature?

[01:08:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think he should have just.

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of gone.

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_03]: With the Rome alliance.

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And.

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Got rid of Saul.

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_06]: A little bit.

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Because.

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_06]: You know about this.

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Steal a vote.

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_06]: And.

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like.

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_06]: This is why I think.

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Genevieve's move.

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Was very well timed.

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_06]: But also.

[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean the communication.

[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Was great.

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_06]: But the move itself.

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Kind of simple.

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Where.

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_06]: If you and your number one.

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Rome.

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_06]: That's literally all you need.

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Like.

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Teenie could have their vote.

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_06]: But.

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Rome steals a vote.

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_06]: You have three votes.

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_06]: And a tribe of five.

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_06]: And.

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Why not get out.

[01:09:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Someone who's probably.

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Better for your game.

[01:09:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Like Keyshawn.

[01:09:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Because if you get out.

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Soul.

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Then it's kind of like.

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_06]: A two-two split.

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_06]: And that might be trouble.

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_06]: For you.

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_06]: So I think Genevieve.

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_06]: It makes.

[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_06]: If Rome was going to use.

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_06]: The steal vote.

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_06]: It makes sense to maximize it.

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_06]: By taking out someone.

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Who's a little bit bigger.

[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Of a target.

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And.

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And Keyshawn.

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I think.

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Should have been able.

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_06]: To acknowledge that.

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_06]: And been able to go.

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_06]: With the flow.

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_06]: And just take an out.

[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Soul.

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And hope that.

[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_06]: You know.

[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_06]: They get to their four.

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's a two-two split.

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And maybe there's a swap.

[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Or a merge.

[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Or whatever.

[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And they can stick together.

[01:10:04] [SPEAKER_06]: It just felt like.

[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Everything had to go right here.

[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_06]: For Keyshawn.

[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_06]: To make this move.

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_06]: When there was a lot of variables.

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_06]: That he couldn't even control.

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_06]: So I think it's just smart.

[01:10:13] [SPEAKER_06]: And he hadn't even consulted.

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Teeny really about this plan yet.

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Didn't know.

[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_06]: The result of Teeny's journey.

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_06]: It just felt like.

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_06]: He.

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Was.

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like.

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Feeling comfortable.

[01:10:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And he was playing very well.

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And was like.

[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Alright.

[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Let me try to control.

[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_06]: The move of every single person.

[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_06]: And make this great plan.

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_06]: To do something that I don't think.

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Would have altered his game.

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Too.

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Too.

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_06]: It just felt like.

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Definitely.

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_06]: But like you said.

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_06]: But it's too early.

[01:10:39] [SPEAKER_06]: And just a little bit too ambitious.

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Where.

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Can Rome.

[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Sustain.

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Can Rome.

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Sustain.

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_03]: In this game.

[01:10:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Much longer.

[01:10:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I think Rome.

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Is.

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_04]: He's doing.

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_04]: So much.

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_04]: So early.

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_04]: From the jump.

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_04]: If you're not.

[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Like.

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Tony Vlacos.

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Or somebody.

[01:11:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Like.

[01:11:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't see.

[01:11:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't see Rome.

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't see Rome.

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_04]: In the.

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't see him in the game.

[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_04]: That much longer.

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you see Q.

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_03]: In the game.

[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Much longer.

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_03]: At this point.

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_03]: In his season.

[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Because.

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_03]: He might not have been making.

[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_03]: The same type of.

[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Power moves.

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But.

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Q was.

[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Causing a ruckus.

[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_06]: If not.

[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_06]: If you were wrong though.

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Was actually in a pretty good spot.

[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_06]: And like.

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Was playing a decent game.

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I felt like.

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_06]: But he had Q outburst.

[01:11:33] [SPEAKER_06]: For sure.

[01:11:33] [SPEAKER_06]: But.

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_06]: His tribe.

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_06]: He had a charisma.

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_06]: That his tribe.

[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Still was drawn to.

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_06]: That.

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Rome.

[01:11:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Does not really.

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Seem to possess.

[01:11:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Now.

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I.

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Admire Rome's relationship with.

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Genevieve seems to be pretty good.

[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Doesn't seem too bad with teeny or anything.

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_06]: But.

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Now.

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I think Rome could theoretically go far.

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_06]: But at the end of the day.

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like.

[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I just don't think anyone's really going to respect Rome's game.

[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Because if he talks to.

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_06]: A jury.

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_06]: The way that we've seen him talking to.

[01:12:00] [SPEAKER_06]: So.

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_06]: If he's at the final three.

[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_06]: He's like.

[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Well I'm on the top.

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm allowed to do this.

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And you guys are at the bottom.

[01:12:05] [SPEAKER_06]: No one's going to vote for him.

[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_06]: So.

[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Um.

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Give me your vote.

[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Or.

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm.

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to just walk off.

[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Or I'm going to take the million.

[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Something.

[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_06]: The last thing I kind of wanted to.

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Bring up.

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_06]: In this plan.

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Because like I said.

[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I think Genevieve concocted a really excellent plan.

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_06]: But.

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like.

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Should.

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_06]: If.

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_06]: If Rome and Sol.

[01:12:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Are on workable terms.

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Should Rome.

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Slash Genevieve have pitched.

[01:12:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Hey Sol.

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_06]: We.

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Now we're going to steal your vote.

[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Just so that Keyshawn.

[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Doesn't.

[01:12:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Suspect anything.

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:12:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Because.

[01:12:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Rome's played his idol.

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_06]: We've seen over on Tukou.

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_06]: There's an idol.

[01:12:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Rehidden.

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Keyshawn could theoretically have an idol here.

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And if you steal his vote.

[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_06]: He's very suddenly.

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Alarms are going to go off.

[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Probably going to play his idol.

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_06]: You steal Sol's vote.

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_06]: You still have all the votes you need.

[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's going to be three to one.

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think you can kind of pull the wool over Keyshawn's eyes a little bit.

[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Just in case.

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_06]: And to me.

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Of course.

[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Genevieve is trying to like mend this relationship with Sol.

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_06]: It seems like Rome is a little bit too.

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_06]: But if you go to.

[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_06]: If you go to Sol.

[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_06]: And you're like.

[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Here's the plan.

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to steal it for this reason.

[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:13:19] [SPEAKER_06]: If you were stealing it to get Sol out.

[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_06]: There's literally nothing he could do.

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_06]: So it's like.

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't.

[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I wouldn't lie to him about that.

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I would be like.

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm not lying to you here.

[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Because I would have no reason to.

[01:13:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:13:27] [SPEAKER_06]: You would have.

[01:13:28] [SPEAKER_06]: You wouldn't be able to play your shot in the dark.

[01:13:29] [SPEAKER_06]: You would be going home if I steal your vote.

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Or we're going to.

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to put it on Keyshawn.

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Or we're going to steal your vote just to throw him off.

[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like that could have been.

[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_06]: The.

[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_06]: The last step for this to be like kind of a.

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Airtight plan.

[01:13:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Because there is a world where Keyshawn found the idol.

[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_06]: You steal his vote.

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_06]: He's going to play his idol.

[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_06]: So.

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_06]: That's just sort of.

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Well.

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean.

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_06]: What do you guys think about that?

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Or is it too much?

[01:13:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Or is it just make sense?

[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Like steal Keyshawn's vote.

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Vote him out.

[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a bit too much.

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Especially just given the relationship of Rome and Keyshawn.

[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And now you want to.

[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I think.

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Just getting them to even vote together.

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I think is a miracle.

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So.

[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that might have been.

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Choking the chicken.

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Just a little too much.

[01:14:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that.

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that.

[01:14:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's like.

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's like.

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_04]: If you have the time to sit and think about all that.

[01:14:24] [SPEAKER_04]: That's like us as viewers.

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_04]: But I feel like on the island you're not.

[01:14:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like.

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: On the island I wouldn't have thought to.

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_04]: To do that.

[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Just like.

[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[01:14:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Keyshawn's.

[01:14:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Trying to make moves.

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_04]: We going.

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Get rid of that.

[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_04]: But again.

[01:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you said.

[01:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: If he had an idol.

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And he saw you stealing his vote.

[01:14:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Then he's playing it.

[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Or if Teenie had found an idol.

[01:14:47] [SPEAKER_06]: You know.

[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_06]: At the journey.

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like.

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it would have been that.

[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Now.

[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_06]: And like Bryce.

[01:14:52] [SPEAKER_06]: You said.

[01:14:52] [SPEAKER_06]: They're trying to mend this relationship with soul.

[01:14:54] [SPEAKER_06]: But.

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_06]: It's sort of.

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_06]: That's one of those things where.

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Nobody can really do anything about it.

[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Other than play an idol.

[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_06]: So I think.

[01:15:01] [SPEAKER_06]: You could kind of lay this out to soul.

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Make sure the plans air.

[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_06]: I actually think if I'm soul.

[01:15:05] [SPEAKER_06]: That would make me feel better.

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_06]: If you give me this like.

[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Elaborate plan.

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_06]: You wouldn't be making all that up.

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Other than steal my ability.

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_06]: To play my shot in the dark.

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_06]: And vote me out.

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I literally couldn't do anything.

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But.

[01:15:16] [SPEAKER_03]: My question to you is.

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_03]: What will we need to tell soul that for?

[01:15:19] [SPEAKER_03]: We could just talk to him at the end.

[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_03]: We're just going to steal his vote.

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Well.

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I guess.

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_06]: But at this point.

[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_06]: You know.

[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_06]: They'd already roped him into this plan.

[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't mind.

[01:15:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Because.

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I think in Genevieve's mind.

[01:15:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Now.

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_06]: That Keyshawn is gone.

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_06]: They can pull in Teenie.

[01:15:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Or they can pull in soul.

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_06]: To keep that majority.

[01:15:37] [SPEAKER_06]: You wouldn't want to push soul too far away.

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Because maybe soul then defers to Teenie.

[01:15:41] [SPEAKER_06]: And.

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Then it's two two.

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_06]: So I think it.

[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Like.

[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_06]: At least in Genevieve's mind.

[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_06]: She wants to work with soul.

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_06]: So bring him in on this plan.

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_06]: And I just think it kind of adds another layer of protection.

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_06]: You know.

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_06]: It might be a couple too many moving pieces.

[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_06]: But again.

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_06]: That's why I like this plan from Genevieve.

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Because all you really need to know.

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Is that you and Rome are going to vote together.

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And steal someone's vote.

[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And you're going to have the votes.

[01:16:03] [SPEAKER_06]: So.

[01:16:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:16:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I definitely.

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Be interesting to see how this dynamic works.

[01:16:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Because.

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_03]: The only.

[01:16:15] [SPEAKER_03]: There's not a lot of things certain in life.

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But what is certain that I know is.

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Rome is going to Rome.

[01:16:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know.

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_03]: That.

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_03]: That ain't going to work well.

[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_03]: With soul.

[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_03]: In the long run.

[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Because it is definitely a Rome tatership.

[01:16:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And it is Rome's way.

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Or.

[01:16:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Or home.

[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Rome or home.

[01:16:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Rome or home.

[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's not a threat.

[01:16:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm worried.

[01:16:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not worried.

[01:16:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm curious to see.

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_06]: If and when Rome.

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Links up with people from other tribes.

[01:16:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Like.

[01:16:51] [SPEAKER_06]: How they're even going to.

[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_06]: React to him.

[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Because.

[01:16:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Now that is what I want to see.

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I want.

[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Money.

[01:17:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd pay good money.

[01:17:01] [SPEAKER_04]: To see him make it past the merge.

[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't got it bro.

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that they're going to go for this man.

[01:17:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he'll make the merge.

[01:17:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Unless there's a small.

[01:17:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And I also feel like.

[01:17:11] [SPEAKER_03]: You know.

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You can say a lot about Rome.

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But he has really been.

[01:17:17] [SPEAKER_03]: For the core four.

[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Although.

[01:17:19] [SPEAKER_03]: The core four is.

[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_03]: He's at the top.

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But.

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_03]: He really has been.

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Working for the core four.

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And again.

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Someone like a Genevieve.

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Is in a great position.

[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Because it's like.

[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I would want to keep you around.

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Because.

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I trust you.

[01:17:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like.

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_03]: In the long run.

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm.

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody going to do my dirty work for me.

[01:17:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Because.

[01:17:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Rome is going to Rome.

[01:17:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And so.

[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_03]: But again.

[01:17:42] [SPEAKER_03]: He has been loyal to the core four.

[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And I do want to give him that credit though.

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_04]: He's had stuff in his pockets.

[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_04]: All this time.

[01:17:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course.

[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_04]: They're going to rock with him.

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_04]: So much.

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I just.

[01:17:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't.

[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I just.

[01:17:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I think.

[01:17:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And also.

[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Just watching this edit.

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I just think Survivor is setting him up.

[01:17:56] [SPEAKER_04]: For a down.

[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Well.

[01:17:58] [SPEAKER_06]: For sure.

[01:17:58] [SPEAKER_06]: For sure.

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_06]: But that.

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Who knows when that'll happen.

[01:18:01] [SPEAKER_04]: That's true.

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Or they could be.

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean.

[01:18:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Or this could be one epic ride.

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_04]: It could.

[01:18:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Q was one epic one.

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Until his downfall.

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean.

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[01:18:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But one thing's for certain.

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_03]: We would definitely.

[01:18:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Have to tune in.

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Next week.

[01:18:17] [SPEAKER_03]: To see what happens.

[01:18:18] [SPEAKER_03]: On episode five.

[01:18:20] [SPEAKER_03]: This has been great.

[01:18:21] [SPEAKER_03]: So excited to be reunited.

[01:18:22] [SPEAKER_03]: With my Survivor news brothers.

[01:18:24] [SPEAKER_03]: The BWP tour.

[01:18:26] [SPEAKER_03]: 47 continues.

[01:18:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Tickets are available.

[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_03]: At the link.

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And the Bryson.

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_03]: When present Instagram.

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Or Twitter bio.

[01:18:31] [SPEAKER_03]: But as for now.

[01:18:33] [SPEAKER_03]: The chickens are alive.

[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And we will see you.

[01:18:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Next week.

[01:18:37] [SPEAKER_03]: This has been your Survivor news.

[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Peace.

[01:18:49] [SPEAKER_02]: The Purple Pants.

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: The Purple Pants.

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: She's trying to unwind.

[01:18:57] [SPEAKER_02]: You better get that box.

[01:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Why?

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the Purple Pants podcast.

[01:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: She's trying to get your snack.

[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_02]: You better hurry right back though.

[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the Purple Pants.

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the purple pants.