Purple Pants Podcast | A Tale of Two Playstyles

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[00:00:56] Hello, hello and welcome to the Purple Pants Podcast, Survivor News. I serve as your humble and oh so gracious host, Bryce Isaiah, and I thank you so much for tuning in to this week's Survivor News. If you could be so kind to ensure you are subscribed to the Purple Pants Podcast, we are available on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you can find podcasts. The Purple Pants Podcast awaits for you to subscribe.

[00:01:24] And as always, with your Survivor News content, you can watch this audio podcast on video. Head over to the Bryce Isaiah YouTube channel, click subscribe, give this video a thumbs up, and let us know in the comments what you think about this week's episode. The Baby Boys are back! A new season of Survivor Season 48 has aired, and your Baby Boys are here to break down the first episode.

[00:01:52] I'm super excited to be joined by Wendell Holland, Jack Atkins, and from Survivor Season 46, we have the one and only Q. We are talking the challenges. We're talking the new tribes. We're talking tribal. We're talking alliances. We're talking, do we see a winner? We're talking it all this week. So let's get into this week's Survivor News.

[00:02:26] Survivor News. What's going on? We are back with your Survivor News cover in Survivor Season 48. The Baby Boys have assembled, and I'm super excited to be back.

[00:02:55] Wendeezy, winner of Ghost Island, and first Merge Boot of Winners at War. Wendeezy was popping. I was just the first boot. I wasn't the first Merge Boot, but I'll take it. It's good to see you. You were the first boot? You know what? I didn't slip. I was just the Merge Boot, not the first Merge Boot. The first Merge Boot is your title. We'll take that. Good to see you.

[00:03:22] We've got Jackery Atkins from The Circle Season 2 was popping. It's good to be here. Excited to start another season. So very, very stoked. Wendeezy, I'm not excited for this guest, so I'm going to pass it on to you to introduce the guest because I don't want to start the podcast off with no smoke, so I'm going to let you handle this one for me. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, we would like to welcome to the podcast a very, very good friend of mine,

[00:03:52] Bryce Isaiah. I don't know if he's such good friends of his, the one and only, one of the leaders of the new school, one of the leaders of the new era, one of the sharpest players to ever come out of the new era, real estate mogul, aces pop, football playing, billiards playing,

[00:04:17] started growing out his little yummy hair on top, the one and only Q, Quintavious Burdett is in the building. You're here. Yeah, I'm here. And Bryce, you get the smartest thing you could do. You got in a passenger seat. It's what you used to doing. Now you let somebody else drive. You're in trouble. Listen, Q, I'm not about to argue. Okay. You know what? We're going to settle this debate real quick. Show your driver's license.

[00:04:46] Just show the back of it. Not the front. Just show the back. Okay. Driver's license. We can't say that. That's a permit. For whatever reason, Q don't think I know how to drive, but it doesn't matter because we're out here driving Survivor News. We're back. It's a new season. You know with the new season comes a new BWP tour. 48, we kicked it off last night in New York City, which was absolutely epic.

[00:05:15] We had a crowd of a million and one people. Good vibes, good energy. Wendeezy, what would you say about last night's event? Oh, man. It was how you should kick off a tour. You know? Like, we back. It was... New York was lit. They were in there having a good time. It was great to see everybody. We had an international crowd, Bryce Isaiah. That's right. Yes, we did. A couple special guests from across the globe.

[00:05:45] Amanda from Survivor South Africa Season 2. Jack, you know Amanda. Yo. What's up? We had Kevin Jacobs from Big Brother Canada in the building. And we had a bunch of reality. And what was really dope, Bryce, it's a Survivor event. And I'll let you speak to this a little more. But our good friend Bryce has really been bridging the gap with other shows. And Amazing Race premieres next week. And man, there were so many Amazing Race folks in the building.

[00:06:14] It was great to see. Yeah, it was definitely dope. It almost felt like an Amazing Race premiere. We had three new castaways or contestants on Amazing Race Season 37 that airs next week. So make sure you tune in. But yeah, we had Squid Game, Survivor, Big Brother. It definitely was dope. And if you missed our New York premiere, no worries. We are headed to the West Coast next week. We'll be in Los Angeles March 5th. We'll be in San Francisco March 12th.

[00:06:43] Tickets are available. You can go to brysonwin.com and get your tickets. And we'll see you at the next stop. Q, I heard you or I saw you were in Milwaukee. You were at Andrea. I saw my guy Sam. I saw Ben. How was that? It was amazing. The crowd was awesome. Let me just tell you. Andrea, she knows how to put on an event.

[00:07:08] She knows how to entertain, bring everybody together in one place and just keep them there. And it was amazing, man. They had the taco truck. They had some burger spot outside serving it up. Drinks on the inside. I don't drink, but I had enough water for me. I had enough tacos for me. So I was good. Now, let's talk about just the lineup that she brought. She brought the winner of 47, Rachel. That's right.

[00:07:35] She brought the most popular, in my opinion, Genevieve, who would have won if she didn't get voted out. And she brought Sam, the one vote receiver at the end of their episode. But he was also popular. And she brought me. The one vote receiver? Why you got to do it like that? Hey, man, we had a little rap battle last night. Y'all got to check that out. We and Sam. I'm talking about Brooklyn style. I'm talking about Brooklyn style on the streets. Back and forth.

[00:08:04] Boy from Park. Jail for Jail. Yeah. Who won? We had a Jail. Who won the rap battle, Q? I know it. But then he had Ben. He was rocking out, playing that loud-ass guitar. I had to go in the back for that. Then they brought the boy Q out. And I had the Q skirt on. We had folks in the building with the Q skirt on. I came out throwing money out of my pocket. Ugh, ugh. Making it rain. Yeah. Okay.

[00:08:33] Q skirt on that neck. You see what's happening? Doritos in this Q skirt. It's a movement. It's a movement. You know I keep it all in. But the middle of the night was amazing, man. We had an awesome time. Awesome crowd. And then we did a panel. So I loved it. It looked dope. I want to say, it was like 945, 10 o'clock. I get a phone call. Q. Q says I never pick up. I pick up. Mind you, Q's in mid-conversation.

[00:09:02] So Q calls me. And I got to wait for Q. I pick up. Q flies like, Bryce, what's up? Q says, coming to Chicago. Click. You know you could have texted that, right, Q? Yeah. But you know how I get. Okay. When I'm on the phone in the car, I put it on speaker. Then it's something I have to tell you immediately. The first thing I'm going to do is FaceTime you first. Then call you. Then send you a nasty text like, I beg.

[00:09:33] You ain't answer the FaceTime nor the call. All right. Yeah. No, you ain't driving. So you need to be asking one of them too. I'm dead. Okay. Well, that was Q's event in Milwaukee. Jack, I heard you was in L.A. getting it popping and shaking. What was your event like in L.A.? Yeah. There was a couple of cast members from the season that hosted a little watch party. I don't know if I'm supposed to specify. So I'm going to leave that out.

[00:10:00] But we had some other alumni, a few 46s. I'm talking Tiff. I'm talking Jets. I'm talking Hunter. And I'm talking the man, the myth, the legend, Jalinski. Oh. You had all the stars from 46. Jack. Hey, let me just tell you. One thing 46 going to do, we going to show up. All right. We going to show up. We going to make an appearance now. I'm not sure if you had any 46s in New York. I think you did. We did. Just think about it.

[00:10:29] 46 was on the West Coast. 46 was in the East Coast. 46 was in the Midwest. You know how they do, man. We're the best. They might not always talk to each other, but they show up. Surprise! You was going to be there? Do y'all have people in Canada too? For sure. The one and only Venus. You know? Are y'all beefy? And look, she ain't no fish either. She ain't on the menu.

[00:11:01] Okay. Hey Q, I got a question. What? What do I have on my head? Huh? You know what you got on your head. It don't come to him. Just tell him to sit there and wait. It'll come to you. He got the Q-cut. And I got the Q-cut. Oh. It's crispy. On the top where the little frizz. That's what they call it around here. It look like a Q-cut. The only thing you missing right now, man, in your whole fit, is a Q-skirt. You got the Q-hat. You got the outwork. That's what we do. Put a Q-skirt on underneath that thing, man.

[00:11:32] There's a Q-skirt. What? Oh. I'll work. I'll play. I'll hustle. Uh-oh. What's that? Easy. What'd you know about the P-? Hey. Now. I respect it. I respect when you rock your own merch. Unlike Bryce. What the hell is Hockey Fiji? Listen. You know, I like to support the cast. I think this is Eva's merch from this season. Okay. And after this episode, the first episode, I'm for sure Eva's stan.

[00:12:02] I don't play hockey, but I can play some mean air hockey. Ooh. Okay. Score. What noise did you say? That was a good sound. Yeah. That's the, that's me scoring one to nothing. So I like, I like that you plugged Eva's shirt. So I'm going to have to go get me one of those, you know? I support the family. But listen, we're here for an episode. We plugged our shirt too.

[00:12:32] Yeah. You did. And I said, I got to get me one of those. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Come on now. You got to keep up. You got to keep up. All right. I just heard it. So slow. But listen. Nobody's feeling. They're feeling education. You know how we spell eagles. Did you see our mayor spell eagles? E. G. L. E. S. Eagles.

[00:13:02] He need to retire today. She. She. She. Oh my goodness. Oh, okay. Yeah. Let me just say this. Let me just say this. I didn't know that Philly Smear was a woman. So let me backtrack. She needs to retire today. We see. All right. I am deceased. But we got episode one of season 48.

[00:13:32] I love before we turn it over to Jack to narrate us. Everyone's thoughts on the first episode, the start to the new season. I'll go. I thought it was great. I thought we are in for a treat. I think we have a lot of amazing characters. I thought this was a great episode. I thought the ending was fantastic. I know which way was going to go. But I love the dynamics of the new cast. I love the unexpected linkups.

[00:13:58] I like the fact that there was some foreshadowing of some true alliances. There's some foreshadowing of some maybe problematic or some places that might be in trouble. But I thought it was a really good start. What y'all think? I mean, I'll go next. I guess I thought it was awesome. You know, I love it when you get off the boat, walk in the sand and you boom, starting in the mud.

[00:14:24] But this challenge right here, in my opinion, was probably the best that I've seen yet when you're talking about getting off the boat, going through the mud, having to get every single member to the top before you can move forward. And then we have an injury. Challenge number one, going under the nose, the shoulder pop out of place. When's the last time that happened? Stephanie? Yeah, long ago.

[00:14:51] So it's just like this group, they're going all out. They don't care about the consequences. They're here to play. And we saw that within that first 30 seconds of the episode. And when they got that to try to their account, she want to talk. We're going to talk about her in a minute. I don't want to say everything just yet. But what do you think about the episode?

[00:15:13] We're going to talk about it. We're going to talk about it.

[00:15:43] We're going to talk about it. I think it's a good episode. I think we see the connections or we see things starting to happen that I can't wait to see how they play out. I want to see the Eva-Joe alliance. I want to see how that plays out. Because now it seems like he's tied to this person because she opened up with him. But we're playing a game for a million dollars. I don't know. I just want to see.

[00:16:12] So I'm excited to just see how things shake out. But he did say, Wendell, that he's willing to lose the game to her. Yeah. That was a strong statement. And that's when Joe took my heart in that moment. Yeah. Yeah, I was a big fan of the episode, too. I thought it was a great start. I love the opening challenge. I love that they opened up with clips of everybody finding out they were on the cast. That was really fun.

[00:16:43] And I think there's a lot of good characters so far. And I also think there's a lot of, like, rootable characters. People that I'm really excited to watch and to support. So, yeah. And then to top it all off, the Tribal was a really exciting one, too, for a first episode. So no complaints at all. It's always good to get Survivor back, too. We get those goosebumps going when things open up. So it was a great start to the season. Do you remember in the beginning of Survivor, I think it might have been like,

[00:17:08] maybe season one through six when they used to do it where you would be at work and the camera crew would come. And it would be like you're leaving from work to go right on the island. I kind of got that feel a little bit from seeing their, like, live reactions of finding out that they were on the cast. So I like that editing and where they're going. It's like giving us behind the scene in this new era. Yeah. Yeah. And it's one of those things. It's like you're basically seeing footage of someone, someone's dream coming true.

[00:17:38] And I think that immediately, even if it's a five second clip, immediately makes people more sympathetic. You know, like seeing Joe have, like, top it all off with his reaction about his family. Five seconds in, you don't even know him, but you're like, I'm rooting for Joe. You know? So I think it was really exciting and showed them, like you said, Bryce, that kind of slice of their life back home before they head out to the island. I feel like the editors are playing with us already in the sense of we saw everyone's clip.

[00:18:07] Like we saw Mitch, we saw Star, you know, five seconds, but we see 32 minutes of Joe. And so it's like, don't play with me. Y'all are building me up. I already love this man. And like, I just, I get worried because I know that the editors back in the day, you know, we used to get a winner's edit, right? So from episode one, you could be like, I saw the winner. I didn't see one on season 36. It was hard to tell.

[00:18:35] But in other eras, you could just see a winner. So I get nervous because they like to play with our emotions. But listen, I'm going to start the petition that I'm a Joe stan right out there. Oh, for sure. I mean, Joe is probably, this first episode was the first one that I've ever watched. And I'm not an emotional guy. And I got, I was like, dang, this guy here, he's awesome. Like he's everything that I would love to have on the island with me. Let me just tell you.

[00:19:05] So it's just one of those things where this was the first episode that got me kind of, okay, stuffed up a little bit to say, man, this cast here is going to be something else to watch. Unless they're going to do something Q-like and crazy next week. I'm cheering for everybody. I will say that my last thought is, and we can kind of get into it because my thought process develops as the episode goes on. However, I will say this.

[00:19:32] The one thing that I was a little disappointed in right out the bat, because I feel like season 46 and 47, we've had characters like a Q. We've had characters like a Rome. And so I'm like, where's Z? Like, you know, where's L? Where's the new? And I don't think that I discovered that character or that character wasn't what I thought it was going to be.

[00:19:59] But by the end of the episode, I think I have discovered who I feel like could potentially be the new Q. Who is that? I don't want to say. Hey! That's fair. You have to stay here in a minute. Yeah. Yeah, I think we'll definitely, I'm on the same page as you, Bryce. We can get into that a little bit later.

[00:20:28] Yeah, we talked a little bit about that opening challenge. And then we get into the journey. But apparently, this is per Mike Bloom, who was out on the island. Kevin, you know, they covered a little bit of his shoulder injury. Apparently, he fully dislocated it. And they had to pop it back into place. Pretty wild. What do you guys think about his decision to then volunteer for the journey? Because I feel like, you know, you already hurt your shoulder. You might not be 100%. He kind of explained it. It's like, I mean, I'm doubling down.

[00:20:58] It's double or nothing for me. Is that a good idea? Or should he have just steered clear? You know, not thinking about the results. Because he obviously ended up winning that challenge. I mean, I just think it's his way to say, look, guys, I'm fine. I'm a fighter. I want to continue. I'm going to do everything that I can for this try. And with him coming back with the hot machete and everything, it solidifies.

[00:21:25] They know regardless of the guy's shoulders on the ground, he's going to show up at least and try. Yeah, Q, but what if he didn't come back with that? Well, we don't have to worry about that because he did. That made me nervous, though, Q, because for me watching it, and I love Kevin, it made me feel like I hurt my shoulder. I need to go on this journey to get something to come like to protect myself.

[00:21:53] And so I was worried that if he had not come back with something that the tribe will automatically like the speculations will be mounting for him. So I was a little nervous, but I was glad that he went out there. And I loved the new challenge. In my own mind, I felt like it's the new version of Sweat vs. Savvy, right? Like I like the adaptation to it. I do think, I do want to ask you, Q, if this was on season 46, would Jelinski have completed this? Jelinski wouldn't have been there. Q would have went.

[00:22:24] What do you mean? Oh, that's right. Okay. You said that one person to go do something like that, when you tell my face, oh, I would have volunteered to make sure that I went. But let's go back to season, I think it's 20, where James hurt his knee in the challenge. Think about those moments and what the tribe, they don't want to get rid of James, but they feel like, okay, you tried to run and you couldn't run, we have to get rid of him. So with Kyle, maybe that's in the back of his mind, like, okay, if I don't do something

[00:22:53] now, I'm going home first, potentially. So I liked his move to say, you know what, put me in, let me show you guys, this shoulder is not bothering me. It popped out, but it ain't going to stop me. It was definitely a risk, but it worked out for him, partly thanks to the fact that Kyle accidentally broke his container. Um, but then what do we think of Kyle's move to help Kevin out?

[00:23:20] I think my draft and my take on Kyle from first look is that Kyle is a stand up good guy. And I like Kyle. However, I mean, let's also be real. If Kyle stays in the game, uh, and we do a tribe swap, you know, he happens to somehow get back with Kevin, like Kevin going to remember that. So like, I thought that was like a really smart move, but also I felt like it was like a stand up move.

[00:23:49] Cause, uh, I've been liable to just break Kevin's glass. I mean, well, if you look at it, it was more so of a thing. There was no coming back for him with that challenge. Like he broke it. It was, it was done for him. So would you rather just sit there and watch the guy feel up the pot? Or would you say, you know what? Let me get back to camp as quickly as I can. Let me help. But also. It's a good point.

[00:24:17] Maybe build a relationship in a bun and get an ally out of the deal. So my tribe don't think we'll be out here doing something else crazy. Cause this guy's going to take forever to fill it up. Is there a world where this move backfires on him? I think so. But I think that I don't know exactly what he shared, but I was just thinking, I like the move. I wouldn't go tell my tribe that I started helping him. Cause obviously in the, we know the scenario, he wasn't coming back. It was wraps for him.

[00:24:47] But I think just hearing like, Oh, you would help someone on the other tribe would send up alarms. And that's where it could, could backfire a little bit. Even it's like, not only are you hoping their tribe helping, like he was going to get it done regardless, but you're also, you know, making those inroads with other players that I haven't even had access to. And that's a little bit dangerous, but I'm, I'm a Kyle fan. I love what he's done so far. Bryce, I do got to say, you were talking about your draft. Didn't you pick him as a third boot? And now you're gassing him up.

[00:25:15] I'm just saying, no, I said that he would likely go out early because he is so likable. And this demonstrating how likable and a standup guy he is. Like it speaks to his character. Now I will tell you one thing that was bothering the hell out of me about Kyle during this challenge. I wish he would have just wet his hand and just wiped his face a little bit. It was so distracting how muddy his face was.

[00:25:46] Yeah, they were muddy. But that one, that challenge right there forced you to get really muddy. Because typically, you know, it's a little higher. Your net is a little flexible. I mean, there seemed like it was tight. They had to put their face in it to get through. So just thinking about that and then saying it was a mess. But something Kyle did do that I like when he got back, it felt like folks wanted to bring him in and catch him up on what was going on

[00:26:15] and what was being said about him in particular. So I think maybe he has some allies who are going to protect him for a vote or two until something like what happened in the first challenge happens again. And they realize, oh man, this guy here, he's too nice. He's too likable. Let's go ahead and get rid of him. I did love his intro when he got back to camp as he'd get off the boat. He's like, I'm Kyle. I'm 29. I'm from wherever. I did not get a surprise. It was just straight up.

[00:26:43] I also liked just a small thing about that challenge too. I love the idea of just get this pot or whatever down by any means necessary. It's up on the bamboo. There's no rules. But going into that challenge, you might be thinking, oh, do I – it kind of shows it a little bit into the player's headspace of like, do I have to like – is there some trick to this? Or you could just brute force take that thing down. And I think it shows those different perspectives. That was kind of fun and just sort of –

[00:27:11] it was cool to see what creative means that these players adopt, you know? Yep. Can we talk about the coconut though? Like Kyle having the coconut and not realizing that like, you don't got to do nothing else. Just crack the coconut open. I love the nuances and the new things that Survivor is incorporating because I thought that that was great because I probably would be like a Kyle

[00:27:38] and I still would have my coconut and not know that I need to crack it away. Yeah. No, that was great. They've been more creative in the last couple of seasons. Even with like Rachel's journey puzzle last season, I feel like they've found some fresh life in these challenges and it's definitely been appreciated. And also the beware advantage that they had. That one was crazy, man. He's in the dolphins and the frogs and the turtles. That was insane.

[00:28:07] Because anybody could have seen him and was like, that's never here. What the hell is this? Yeah. When I heard the by any means necessary takedown of the pot, I was like, man, what if they applied that to the beware advantage? And you could like crack it open or something like that. I want to see that latitude in more things. I want to see people like, yo, figure it out. Yeah.

[00:28:37] Can we talk about in this first challenge, the physical strengths of the tribe? I think that in our draft and in the first look, we were saying how the tribes kind of looked equally comparable, but it seemed that in this first episode, we got to see that maybe physical strength on some of the tribes, like they still kind of figuring it out. Cause I think it is a, was it the orange tribe? The orange is where Kyle is.

[00:29:07] So is it? I would say that purple tribe is probably the strongest tribe. And I think the green tribes look in maybe the weakest. I mean, orange and purple, they got David and Joe. They got some athletic women green. It's like, I'd say their most athletic guys probably Kevin. And then he already messes up his shoulder. Is that kind of what you were thinking, Bryce? Yeah. Cause I was thinking how they, they didn't even complete the challenge. Like Dr.

[00:29:35] Cedric was having a hard time getting up the board. Like they just couldn't do it. And that was like a struggle to watch, but I don't think. Good. Doc is smart. Doc got those letters, wrote them in the sand. Immediately. Listen, I said, good gracious. That boy, that guy, that guy. So where he lacks and maybe physical, he's going to make up in one of these challenges here soon.

[00:30:04] That ends in like a puzzle that where he has to put his thinking capital. I like Cedric. What do we think about this green tribe? Cause we talk about the beware advantage, which was obviously in the hands of say, and say came in hot, immediately grabs all the guys, makes it, makes the squad. Also doing some chatting with the girls say came to play. And as she says, down the line, I'm not wasting time. I'm not wasting time looking at the stars. I'm here to like,

[00:30:36] I didn't want to say earlier, but say killed it and crushed it. I absolutely. At first, when I watched the episode, I kind of was like, Oh, what are you doing? You're like, but I, I, I have to be remiss that I feel like in past seasons, we've seen a say in the male version. Right. And people rally around this person and they love it. And so I love that say is out there. This black woman is like,

[00:31:06] I ain't coming around. Like, yo, you, you, you, we together. What's up? Like, I like that take charge energy, because if you don't take charge, then you're going to be following. However, I know enough of enough of enough that when you do take charge, you do become a target and you have to maintain that leadership. In order to stay on top. And it's like, it's easier for people to kind of come for you, but I have to say, say,

[00:31:36] impress the hell out of me. It's that filly of her. It's her facial expressions. It's her being like, speak of her mind. Like I, I love say this episode. She was the one that reminded me the most of a cue. Like she wasn't playing. I got it. I got it. I got to push back a little bit. Now, I love what say is bringing. Right. Really? Hold on. I mean, okay.

[00:32:06] Say great character wise, bringing a lot to the table, set a record for confessionals in one episode last night with 22. You got to be doing something right. But I just think coming in way too hot. Like, you know, like I said, immediately making all these alliances, literally at tribal saying, I don't want to, I'm not here. Like, I like that mentality, but to be like, Oh, y'all shouldn't be looking at the stars. Y'all should go to the water while we don't deal. It's like, well, now I know what type of player you are. And that's kind of a hard player to trust.

[00:32:36] I just think say he's going a little too hard. To me, it reminds me a lot of Rome where Rome in last, last season, found an idol early on, immediately makes these bonds without really, I think feeling people out as much as he should have. And it works early on because especially in a tribe of six, when you go to travel early, like people are going to be scared to rock the boat. So you're the one who's guiding the boat. People might jump on board, but as soon as you're the captain sailing the ship, and then you get to emerge with two other tribes,

[00:33:04] I think there's a clear target on say his back, whether it's on this tribe or down the line, it's just this position she's put herself in is going to be impossible to maintain for an entire season, I think in the new era. And that's why I'm a little bit worried for say, but I love that she's coming in hot, ready to battle. Cause it's either going to like be incredible and she's going to win. And it's like, Holy smokes. Or I think most of the time she's going to go down in flames, but it's going to be good TV. So I'm not mad at it. I didn't think that I do.

[00:33:34] I want to push back a little bit more, right? Like I do. I agree with your take, right? Like I don't love to take charge of it, but I do love it. And I don't feel like she was a dictator though. Right. I feel like throughout the episode, we saw her holding council, convening, seeing what other people had to say. So like, I feel like there's a world where, yeah, she might just be getting the ball started, but I feel like she has Dr. Cedric. She has Belinsky.

[00:34:01] I feel like she was taking advice, listening to people. It wasn't like, she was like, this is what we're doing. And we're done. Yeah. I mean, I like the fact that she, she, she asked for help early on with her beware advantage. So that shows that when she is in need, she will listen to someone else. But at the same time, say it was, she felt like she needed to do to get herself established on day one. Like she found the beware advantage on day one.

[00:34:30] She was not going to stop until she finished it. So I liked that about her, but you know, to your point, she has to know when to dial it back. And that was some of my mistakes early on. Dialing it back. So dialing it back. And, but she did a great job. I feel like looping folks in to say, you know what? I trust you. I trust you. And this is my way of showing it. This is what I have. It's for us. Let's move. Let's make something happen. Right. That is your, you,

[00:34:59] I feel like there's a balance of, to me, she's actually a really good ally. Cause she locks in right away. And you could tell she wants to lie with her squad. You know, she's honestly, she's pushing back on Stephanie a lot publicly. But to me, if you're, that's my ally, then I know you guys are at odds. You're with me. That's cool. I'm worried. It's like I said, very similar to Rome where, especially with the idol in the pocket, I think say could run this tribe, but I'm worried. She gets to the merge,

[00:35:26] goes in with that same mentality where she pulls eight people to the water well and starts wheeling deal. And everyone's going to be like, Whoa, like let's, yeah. And I honestly think like this first vote, I mean, it was kind of straightforward with, okay. Everybody's on board with Stephanie. What if they lose again? And now they have to make this tough decision to get rid of somebody that they really like. They want to keep around for whatever reason and say is now that odd person out.

[00:35:56] And they could lose again. Oh, for sure. Well, 100% can and probably will. They're the Yonu. No, no, no cap. They're the Yonu. They're going to probably lose a bunch. Although it's safe. And doing it, I think if she can survive, you know, this next tribal, it gives her some experience. And maybe now it puts her in a place to say, you know what? It could be me next actually now, because we're down to our strongest. In this category,

[00:36:26] especially if they vote out another female on their tribe. Now she's have to look at it like, okay, with these four guys, these three guys that I came together to bond with, would they just band together and get rid of me next? Yeah. But having that idol in a tribal five early on, I feel like people are going to stay clear. And so that opens up a lot of avenues per se, but you know, looking last night, it did seem like she was pretty confident going into tribal. Which I was nervous.

[00:36:55] Cause I'm like, if you, for me, first tribal, if I know it's me or Bryce, I'm just going to play my idol and make sure I'm good. But like you said, Q, I think maybe this Alliance was a little bit stronger than the edit gave credit for. But I just want to, I hope for say that she's not a little too overconfident because it's a long road ahead with that idol. And if you're, if you're worried about playing it perfect, there's going to be a lot of opportunities to, to not play it and mess up. So I just hope.

[00:37:24] Can I give kudos to, uh, Balinski and Kevin, right? Because throughout this side at it, I feel like we got to see glimpses of those two kind of teeter in the line a little bit. Like, I don't know, but, and so I, I feel like I like the fact that they're forward thinking, even though sign my girl and I wanted to go far. I'm also just peeping them being like, if the boat starts to sink,

[00:37:53] it's time to jump. And I like the fact that they kind of are ready. And at one point in time, the way the edit was going, I thought they may already. Already. So I like the fact that they are kind of like, sure. We in now, but wherever it goes and Kevin with his alliances that he's got, like, uh, who did he lock in? Was it Mary? Mary. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. If it's, Hey, let's get rid of Mary next. And Kevin, if I absolutely not, can't do that. I won't do that. And he can get,

[00:38:24] uh, is it, is it Belinsky? Yeah. If he can get him, say he's in trouble. Right. Um, Bryce, I'm curious. Belinsky was your winner pick. How do you feel after seeing him this episode? I feel like it was a bit of a mixed bag for, for Belinsky. I feel like he, well, one wasn't exactly what I expected from the photos, but he was still chill. Like he linked up with Simon, like, I felt like he's playing the position really well. I didn't see enough,

[00:38:53] but I felt like I saw enough that like, okay, he can go far and he knows what he's doing. So I wasn't mad at a Belinsky real quick. He was very chill. He was also very unassuming. Like I saw people joking online that he looked like he might have like a weed pen out there. Hey, listen, I was just excited. Belinsky look like he rides skateboards and smoking weed all day long. His shirt just says pizza, you know, but he's chill. So like, um, yeah,

[00:39:19] it wasn't like a lot of Justin Belinsky content. Um, like it was like, I feel like his first confession, he's like, you know how back at the pizza shop we do it. Like, and I'm like, we don't know anything about you. I didn't even know you worked at a pizza shop. Like, um, he's got that fire though. You could see the fire though. Like, and, and it's masked by that little chill stoner. So that could be, that could be dangerous. Yeah. I'm curious.

[00:39:50] I'm sorry, but just not to bring it to another show. Um, and I'm not caught up on traders, but like, kind of like how you got Carolyn. A lot of people over there think that they're like, all right, she's just doing whatever over there, but no, she's a traitor and she locked in. But over here you have this, this guy, Justin, who was like, all right, he looks like he's, you know, chilling, whatever, but not the man is. He's thinking about it. He's making this move. He's choosing. And he could have chosen to say, you know what? Let's go this way.

[00:40:19] But I think maybe he saw something in. Say's game versus Stephanie that he feels like it's going to better him. but now at least until now it's like, okay, you truly in the middle, but do you want to rock with Kevin? Or do you want to rock with say, right? Yeah. I'm curious. I feel like we might as well touch on this now, since we're here at the green tribe, you know, let's, let's, let's consider there to be three do that. Right. There's Stephanie and Mary.

[00:40:49] There's Justin and Kevin. And then there's say, and Cedric, Justin and Kevin are the swing votes. Do we think they made the right move here? And what could have their other options been at tribal council? I think they made the right move. In my opinion, uh, because say they went with a Stephanie, right? And if they go with a Stephanie, who then becomes the illuminating star,

[00:41:18] it's going to be Malinsky or Kevin. If they went with Stephanie and voted, if they worked with them, right. Like, I feel like it raises their threat level. Right. However, keeping a say, getting rid of a Stephanie say is still the front runner, still the person with the eye like that. You could get out at any time. And people are looking at, and you right where you need to be. And you have the numbers. So I feel like they made a good decision from my perspective. Yep. Same here. Yeah.

[00:41:49] Yeah. My thinking on it, I was seeing a lot of different options, right? I felt like if you wanted to target say, you'd probably want to split the vote on say, and Cedric because of the idol. And then it seems like they have a decent relationship with Cedric. So then there's a chance Cedric goes home and it's like, maybe I don't want, maybe I'd rather Stephanie goes home and Cedric. I do think flushing the idol or blindsiding say with it would have been nice.

[00:42:19] You know, you've now with five people and one person has an idol. It's a little bit scary. Like that say Cedric duo, she, she could play it for herself. She could just play it for Cedric. And then you're like, no, I don't really know. What I do like going with say, like you said, Bryce, I mean, for all the reasons you said, Bryce, plus I kind of like Kevin has this good relationship with Mary. A lot of times in a tribe of stakes, when that first person goes, their duo becomes that free agent swing vote. And so now it's like,

[00:42:46] Kevin could just pull in Mary and be like, look, I didn't really have a choice. Balinski was with them, but Balinski is going to work with us now. And we can get out like a say or Cedric, which I think. Remind me, did Mary also vote for say she voted for, yeah, she did vote for say. Okay. She was the only vote because Stephanie played her shot in the dark. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I think there's a chance to pull in Mary here. And I think that's a really good position for Balinski and Kevin. Cause it's more likely that Mary is going to go with them, I think.

[00:43:14] And so the only complication out is that idol. But to me, there was so much. It would have been difficult to really like blindside, say, or get that idol out that I can, I understood that being like, let's just go with the chill move here and save that for another day. And just kind of see. But in reality though, it probably sets it up because the four of them all voted together. So say in her mind, maybe thinking, okay, we're all going to vote for Mary.

[00:43:42] And those other two switch and go with Mary. She's going to go. Yeah. That's a very possible. And especially with say, seeming very confident. Correct. Like they might think our four is tight. And I guess if you try to pull a fast one and say is worried, she'd probably just idol and still vote for Mary. And then, you know, you get to four and it's a two, two split and then you figure it out. But yeah, I think Kevin and, and Balinski are on a good spot. Get like.

[00:44:13] Watching the episode and watching how I say moves. I don't think she's thinking like, Oh, they're going to get me. I'm thinking she's more so thinking I'm in control. I'm calling the shots. I want Mary gone. They telling me, yes, they telling me everything they told me last week and they voted with me. And she won't see. The only thing I'm going to say, I agree with that, but my girl from Philly, we Philly, we a little different. We got street smarts. We,

[00:44:42] we deal with a lot of things growing up in the city of Philadelphia. So I think my girls say, it's going to have a little more where we'll fall. If something were to come up, that's all. I'm a just, it's a, it's a Philly thing. And real quick, can we shout out Mary real quick? I feel like people go on this show and making fire is a big effing deal. We see people with their videos, making fire. Q couldn't make fire. If. We were in hell. And Mary. Hold on. Whoa, whoa.

[00:45:12] Q didn't have no flint. I could make fire. Okay. When's the last time you used your fireplace out in your backyard? Um, due to the fact that it's getting warm in Mississippi. Not, not. It's been a while. Okay. I mean, it was just winter here. When's the last time you backed out of your driveway? Today. Right. Wendell. Uber. Uber. You're right. You got out. You got out of windows. A vehicle.

[00:45:43] Uber. Taxi. Taxi. Melissa. Yeah. But shout out to Mary though, because for her to get fire and then casually go up in your confessional and be like, it's the first time I made fire. Like what? Like. The way she was like, Mary is going to be funny. Good. She's going to bring some good TV. If. She can make it past his boat. And something just. Tells me. Either.

[00:46:13] They going to flip on say. Cause Mary. Man. Mary is. Is very, very like. It seems fun to be around out there. Especially for. For somebody like. Kyle. I mean, Kevin, right. Especially for him. So to want to get rid of that energy. I don't know. Yeah. She's funny. She's got some funny preseason tweets. Yeah. Sure. A couple of things I wanted to bring up from. Sorry. Go ahead. Bryce. No,

[00:46:43] I was going to say, can we switch tribes real quick? Cause I want to give you some credit Jack. Yeah. I actually wanted to bounce. I mean, since we talked about travel, I just wanted to touch on a couple of things and then we can cover the other tribes real quick. Something I thought was interesting. Now the way it was edited, it looked close. And so Stephanie playing the shot in the dark, she probably knew she was in more danger than we realized, but it's a smart move. Jack though. I was going to say, I think it is because in that situation, you know,

[00:47:09] you either have four votes or you have two in either way. Like if you have four votes, you play the shot in the dark, you still have the majority. You might as well be sure. Like if you know, you're I've said this in the past. If you're, if you're worried and you know, your vote is not pivotal, might as well just play the shot in the dark. Like why not? Now you always got to remind me each season, Jack, is this the most ideal time? Is this where playing your shot in the dark is the most maximized?

[00:47:39] When is it the most maximized numbers wise? Is it this or when you're down one more person? I mean, it's, it's always one in six. So I would say it's less about the number of people and more about just like how many, how likely is it that you are catching votes? Right? Like if I'm, if I'm one of two targets, there could be 30 people or there could be six people. And I'm still one of two. What, but I guess what I will say is the fewer of the people there are that vote could,

[00:48:08] your vote is going to matter more theoretically. Right. So if, if it's 30 and it's me versus 29 people, like I definitely got to play it. My vote's not going to matter. But if it's six, you're going to, but to me, like I said, it's four versus two, one way or the other might as well make it three versus two or four versus one. Cause it doesn't matter. So you might as well just play it. I think it seemed like she knew she was in danger. So I don't know if that was her thought process. She, maybe she was just like, I'm screwed. I got to play it. But, um,

[00:48:39] the other thing I wanted to bring up was just the conversation, the argument between say and Stephanie about like, are you here to look at the stars or are you here to go talk about water? Well, like what, as y'all played, like, what's that balance? Like, I don't know. What did you, I thought it was a weird argument to have, but what did you guys think about that? I mean, I think you got to have a little bit of both. Just a little bit. I agree. But I,

[00:49:05] I agree because I feel like you need to get to know people, but see, I don't know. Cause it didn't really work out that well for me, but I'm saying, right? Like you got to hit the iron hot. You got to hit while it's hot. And it's like, Hey, you with me? What's up? Let's go. Because oftentimes I feel like from my experience, when you're on survivor and you're, Hey, what's your, your son's name is a school. You went to more house. Cool.

[00:49:33] I find the more talk you have like that with people, it really lets you know, they not working with you. Yeah. So. I thought you were going to say, no, the other way. No. Well, for my experience, because listen, I'm day and night. Maybe, maybe what Bryce, the way he said is, if they're not talking strategy with you, then who are they talking that talk with? Right. They're talking small talk with you. Yeah. Right. But day one to me, look, I haven't been out there, but I feel like day one,

[00:50:02] let me get to know you and really feel your vibe and see if we're actually simpatico. And then maybe we're one-on-one talking. We get really good along. I'll be like, Hey, Bryce, I'd love to work with you. Like, let's figure something out. And, and then feel, but to be like, yo, uh, you know, y'all build a shelter. I'm going to the water well with three people. Let's lock it in. I'm like, I don't even know your name. Like, to her defense with 26 days. I mean, it moves quick.

[00:50:31] You don't have two days in between before you want to travel tomorrow, but I'm with you Q. I think it's a balance, right? Because you don't want to be doing the, where are you from for four days? Cause you might go to travel, but I'm like, let me have a little one-on-one catch a vibe with everybody. That'd be like, Oh, I feel good about this person. I want to know that we're compatible as people before I would commit to an alliance. And that can, that can happen within an hour, right? You have the right conversation, but I just got to have that. I got to feel someone out. And,

[00:50:59] and I think that's why Stephanie was on kind of one extreme end and say it was kind of on the other. And I feel like that argument about watching the stars sort of epitomize that difference. But I think in reality, the right place to be is right in the middle. Sort of like, if, if say goes home next week, then we do understand and know that there has to be a middle. Doesn't it make you appreciate Kyle a lot better coming back from losing the thing? Like, boom.

[00:51:29] Hey, my name's Kyle. I'm a Sagittarius. I went to a boar house. I didn't win. Right. Like I kind of like how Kyle kind of, he didn't waste no time, but like, let me introduce you. Yeah. To that thing with the stars and say, right. I, I tend to, I agree with y'all. Right. Like you need to warm me up a little bit, take me on a date. But in this new era, you don't know the pace of other people's game or like, so it's like, you could be behind.

[00:51:56] So I definitely think you need to be like, right. Right. And I think to, to sort of sum up, right. If I'm going out there, I think maybe to me, and you correct me if I'm wrong, the lesson here would be for me, it's more about those one-on-one bonds right away. Like I could have a good conversation with someone an hour in and be like, yo, I'm gonna look out for you. Let's figure something out. Right. And then you do that with a couple of people be like, how do you feel? Bryce? How do you feel about Q Wendell? How do you feel about Bryce? Oh,

[00:52:26] Alliance. Boom. And, but I just think it needs a little more finesse than just being like, Oh, you, you, you, and you let's, let's get it going. Like, you know what I mean? What if you, that one person that she's coming to saying, Hey, one, two, three, want to talk to you as a fourth. And it's a tribe of six. You can't be like, uh, right. If I'm like a Kevin, that's the one getting approached. I'm saying yes, but I'm gonna keep my options up. Yeah.

[00:52:56] Which I think he's done. I think he's done a great job of doing that. I think he's got the right balance right now, right? Like he made that connection with Mary. He got himself in this Alliance. He's the one with the options right now. So, um, also real quick, before we leave this drive, I loved seeing the connection of a Mary and a Kevin. And on the same tribe, we have a connection with a Cedric and a Psy. I, I don't think we've ever seen anything like that before. And I, I love it. And I, I,

[00:53:25] I just love it. But can we go to another tribe real quick, Jack? Cause I just want to say, I want to give you the praises. Cause I do love to argue with you. And I do love to pick apart everything that you do and say, however, I, I'm on the mother Thomas train. Okay. The train. I, Thomas's energy was not what I expected from his photos. However,

[00:53:54] I liked Thomas's quirkiness. I liked the fact that he was like open about like, okay, I don't know if I'm going to fit in here, but put himself out there. I feel like he linked up with my girl in my head, Bianca Rose. Love that connection. Then we got the California girlies Alliance. Like I, I just love the fact that Thomas, he's finding his way. He doesn't quite fit in, but he's like making those roles and he's funny. He's queer.

[00:54:24] Like I just, I, I am. I'm on the Thomas call me Thomas, the train. I'm on it. I love that. I, I knew, I thought he was going to be good. And I was really blown away. Like some hilarious, just one liner. So funny playing a great strategic game, just like self deprecating, but vulnerable, but funny, but strategic. Like it's, it's so many layers. Very excited. He's my winner pick. Um, I'm glad he's bringing in Bianca.

[00:54:53] And I feel like he's trying to bring her in, in a way that's subtle with the California girls. Um, and I just love this purple tribe. I love this purple tribe. Everyone. Right. They might not lose their stats. Even like the person on the outs right now is star, which I'm sad to see. Cause I, I love stars energy, but at the same time, I'm like, well, I don't want to lose Joe and Eva. I don't want to lose Thomas, Bianca and Shaheen. There's so many, I hope they don't lose. Cause I don't want to lose any of them. Uh,

[00:55:22] so I love this tribe. Yeah. It's a, it's a great, I want to see this tribe 24 seven. It's a great group. Yeah. Uh, Eva Joe, can we talk about that a little bit? Because that was so emotional, so raw, so real. And just first we stand Eva, right? Like Eva is such a hard worker. Eva, uh, tells Joe that she is autistic and that sometimes like her perception of

[00:55:51] things is different and she's worried. And she's coming to Joe to say like, Hey, I don't want to tell everybody. Cause if I tell everybody, they can use it against me and want to vote me out, but I just need my one person to hold me down. And Joe said, hold you down. I got you. I'm going to be your number one. I'm going to protect you. And it's like, it's the weirdest thing ever because I was Wendell. We were talking about this in the car where it's like,

[00:56:17] it's almost as if Joe is so locked in that he's willing to give up his million dollars because of this connection. And that's so deep. And that's like, and that's what people don't understand about survivor. I think from a former player is that you're out there for a million dollars, but the people that you meet out there are real people. It is a real connection and you can't just turn off your human side. Yup. I agree. Is she,

[00:56:45] is she the first survivor player with autism? She says she was. That's like openly. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Wow. Yeah. And game wise. I was thinking like, all right, with a story like this, do you save something like this for your final jury speech? Are you giving, are you telling too much to someone? But in this case regarding Joe specifically, like,

[00:57:15] first of all, we saw Joe in the opening, how, when he got the news, he broke down and like that, that got everyone's emotions. Right. So you already know that this firefighter with a family, just like a leader of a family, emotional dude. Right. And then you see this younger woman come to him and say, Hey, look, sharing this aspect of her life that she might, she shouldn't share with everyone. Of course, on the Island, because for whatever reason, she's sharing it with him because she trusts him. And now we're like,

[00:57:45] all right, he's locked in with her and he's going to protect her. And. You say he had daughters, right? Yeah. That means a whole lot more to him than I'm telling you anything. He ain't letting nobody or nothing manipulate that. No. It was a great show. He moved for her. But Joe, it's like, man, now, now your game is kind of contingent on her. You're going to protect her at, at, at any cost. Right. Yeah.

[00:58:14] What are you doing in a moment like that, that, that of like, you know, someone like it is. Yeah. What do you do? Or what do you do? If everyone's like, all right, we got to vote her out. You got to step up. You got to, but, and I loved how Eva like described it, how like, you know, she's different, but in my mind, I'm like, Eva, that's just superpower girl. Like, and as quiet as it's kept, everybody out there, on that island,

[00:58:44] Eva is a little different. Right. And so I love that, but I just also that scene where Eva in the beginning, where Eva was like, I wasn't sure, like if I was fitting in and they said, we need bamboo. Eva went and got them. I was like, yes, Eva. That, that, that just reminded me of myself in so many other situations. So it's like, I just love seeing that. And I love Eva and I hope she goes far, but. Yeah. It will be interesting to see how things unfold with her, her relationship with Joe.

[00:59:14] And she said, like, she will eventually tell people, but it's not the first thing that she wants to tell people. Right. Like, you know, I want people to get to know me, see me for me. So I really respected that. And I thought that I'm looking forward to watching this. I mean, a good thing for her, like I say, she's on a tribe that might not lose. Ever. So now she gets to a murder situation. And there's bigger personalities, bigger fish to fry. She can fly through a couple of boats. Here we go. Yeah.

[00:59:44] I think she came in with the perfect, the perfect mentality here, right? Like she knows it's going to be a double-edged sword, some positives and negatives. She doesn't want to tell anybody. I think that's smart, but to lock in with one person, I don't think there's a better person in the whole game than Joe. It's a lot. He's going to look out for you. He's going to help you when you're struggling. And then also, you know, I feel like something like sharing something like that kind of transcends the game. And so if someone comes to you with that information, it's going to lock you in.

[01:00:14] And not that she's using it to make an ally, but I think that in doing so, it locks her in with Joe as we, as we can see and helps her out. And it's going to, I think it's just a win for her on so many levels. Cause it's going to, I think she took the right approach. It's going to help her personally. It's going to help her gain working with Joe. And so, yeah, I think she's in a great, and I love, you know, she talked about how she hyper fixates. Like you said, Bryce, if there's one thing to hyper fix it on, it's go get a ton of bamboo.

[01:00:44] Like people are going to love, you know, she's using, she's using that superpower in a way that's going to help her. And I just hope she continues to do that. And if she does, it's going to set her apart, you know, above the rest. So much awareness she, she has, like, right. Oh, well, she's thinking days ahead because she knows herself so well that she knows she's going to need somebody to help her. Right. Go out and reach out on day one and say, Hey, listen,

[01:01:14] this is what's going to happen. This is who I am as a person. I need your help. It just shows, man, she's locked in. Yeah. She's planning. And I think one of the, the moment that I knew I loved her and I think was like after she established with Joe and I think it might've been, I don't know who Joe was talking with someone else and they were essentially gaming and Eva came up and they stopped talking and was like, what's up? What's going on? Like Eva was like, Oh, y'all want some coconut?

[01:01:44] Like I, I loved how I love that moment because it was so innocent, but it also made me feel like, I feel like, again, this is Eva superpower. Right. I think that this is going to propel her. Right. Like, I think that this in that moment where it's like, they're coming, they're talking and she just like, I'm just offering y'all coconuts. What's up? Like, I think people are going to trust her. People are going, it's going to, I think what she perceives or what she believes is going to make her different.

[01:02:11] I think it's really going to pull more people in. It's going to make her more trustworthy. And I think she's going to go really far in this game. I have questions. First of all, do you see her opening up and sharing this with other people before the end of the game? Before the end of the game. Yeah. I think so. Do you see that helping or hurting her game? Hurting. For sure. I don't think people want her to go for like, once she starts opening up and sharing it, like,

[01:02:41] bro, I remember what was the, what was the season with Noel? When people were like, yo, we need to get her out. You know, like, these, yeah, like I'm scared for her. If she shares. Yeah. More. Then with this person. She has so much trust. First of all. And, and that's why I'm so interested to see how this relationship with her and Joe develops, because she may come to Joe and say like, Hey,

[01:03:10] I'm thinking about telling you about this. And Joe actually might be like, maybe you shouldn't. Right? Like, so I'm curious to see that now that she has this outside perspective in the game, I'm thinking how that might play out. Is there a world that we can think of right now that Joe flips the script and spill the bean? I don't, I don't think Joe's that type. Is there a world we think that,

[01:03:39] that Michael have. I don't think it does happen. Yeah. I think, I think maybe, yeah, that's the only way. If even if they are trying to vote her out. Right. What were you saying? That's maybe to say, Hey, Hey, maybe if Joe finds someone that is like how she found Joe, a real connection. If Joe finds someone and that person is talking to him, Hey, we think this, maybe if he shares this information gently,

[01:04:09] to protect her, maybe there's a world. But I don't see him sharing it with any malice. Right. Yeah. I don't see him like flipping on her either. Yeah. He don't seem like a flipper at all. Yeah. No. Unless he's the biggest villain they've ever cast. And, and we really don't know who he is after that first episode. Yeah. That's sort of the, yeah, that's the balance with her is I am worried about if she shares with everybody,

[01:04:40] everyone has that knowledge in mind. Like she's admits that she can't really tell when people are lying to her. Right. And so you tell everybody that in the game with survivor, they might not even do it maliciously, but people are going to be lying to you. And if you know that people know that they can lie to you, you won't know. That would be a lot to handle. But at the same time, like you said, with like a Noel situation, she has this element to her that if she gets to the end, it would be an incredible story. People might be worried about that. But at the same time, I worry, you know,

[01:05:08] there could be a point where people might not know. And maybe they're like, well, Eve is not really like socially doing this or that. And then for her to be like, well, you know, here's the reason why that might help, you know, get people back on, on side with her. Cause obviously if she's doing anything that's rubbing anyone the wrong way, it's not intentional. But then that opens up a whole can of worms. So I am worried. I hope she can keep this with Joe for as long as possible. Basically. Yeah.

[01:05:39] A dang old trash walk. Well, I almost think a tribe swap could, because I imagine what if she got with Mitch, right? Like, and I could see her in a Mitch linking up and maybe sharing something. And that could bond them together. Because also Mitch, if we could switch to that tribe, that tribe's hilarious. And I love Mitch. I think Mitch has like the right type of energy. I want Mitch to,

[01:06:09] in my preseason, I want Mitch to cause chaos out there. And from what we've gotten in this first episode, I feel like Mitch could be stirring the pot. But I think one of my favorite characters over there is who's the big guy, David? Yeah. David's personality is hilarious. And I think that we are just in for such a treat. Like,

[01:06:38] I feel like when he filled out his application, he didn't lie about nothing. When David said he liked compliments, he likes, it was given. Like, do y'all see me? Uh, so I really liked that tribe. I like Chrissy. I think Chrissy, uh, I had Chrissy pretty high as my winner pick. And I feel like she is delivering what I thought that she would deliver. But she, she might be in trouble now. Says who? I think Charity's probably in the most trouble. Charity, Charity. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. The older,

[01:07:08] the older woman. Yeah. You got it. You got it. No, Charity might be in trouble. Agree. Agree. I really like what we're seeing from, which the Charity thing is surprising. Cause even looking at like fan polls preseason, she was a very common, like favorite to win or favorite to go far. But, um, but to, to that point, I love what Camila's doing. Uh, I wasn't, she's the highest in the season. We were a little bit worried about her.

[01:07:38] But yeah, she's stirring the pot. She's running the bus over, reversing it, running it over again. Uh, and she's making those good connections with like a Kyle. Um, you know, just, it seems like they just have so much in common. It's crazy that they, they have to kind of stick together. Um, but she, she did that. She got the groundwork going. And then now she's using that to start. Scheming and plotting a little bit. So I, I, I, I think Camila definitely had a great episode. This episode.

[01:08:08] Camila was my other second. Is, is that our cue of the season? Uh, because, yeah, she had the energy. Yeah. And I, uh, I love the connection she made with Kyle, but I also love the fact that again, Kyle seems, he just comes off so genuine and the, seeing the connections that he's making and how people are willing to protect him. For me just goes to show like, he's very genuine. And again, reminds me of Caleb a little bit,

[01:08:38] kind of the same, a little different. Caleb is just like likable. We, you're just drawn to Caleb. But I also think with Kyle, you're drawn to him and just his like, genuine, his old, like, just seems like a good guy. And I think that's what differentiates him from a, uh, Caleb. Caleb's not a good guy. No, I think Caleb came off as like, I'm super likable to everyone. Almost as if it's almost a little fake. Yeah.

[01:09:06] He was still being strategic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so when you say it like that, though, like if Kyle could get it in shift like that, he, I could see a, a way for Kyle. I'm just hope that he performs. He starts performing a little better. I'm not too worried about Kyle. I'm not too worried about Kyle. I'm not,

[01:09:36] I'm not like the, the, the glass breaking. That was just kind of an anomaly. That first challenge, that opening challenge was really tough. I mean, that purple tribe is stacked, but for like the other teams, like getting up that wall and you're all muddy and just like slippery. That looked really difficult. So I think Kyle will be good to go. And he, he's athletic, but he also looks really sharp. So I think in these tribe challenges, he's going to be great with the agility, but also maybe helpful when it comes to the more cerebral elements of the

[01:10:05] challenge. So I'm, I'm super high on Kyle. Yeah. I don't think you need to be too standoutish or too great at any challenges this early anyway. So I mean, yeah. Yeah. I, it's tough. The charity thing is so interesting to me because I felt like this tribe had so many characters going in and that charity was going to be like a solid presence, an asset in the challenges. And to me, what she said to Camilla wasn't even that crazy.

[01:10:33] Like she just kind of threw out a little teaser about Kyle, obviously not knowing that Kyle and Camilla had become close, but do we think there was other stuff going on behind the scenes with charity? Like, why is she finding herself in such hot water so early on? I think this is the dilemma of a lot of new games is that you don't throw a name out. Like you let the name come to you because you never know how connected someone is. And I also feel like I'm not mad at charity because it's like, well,

[01:11:03] let me just test the waters and see if I could just throw the name out. So it's not my name. And then you have now Camilla is connected. Kyle, we see they're like related there or their origin is connected that we've haven't seen that on survivor before. And so it's like now Camilla could be feeling the same way in the sense of like, I don't want it to be me and I don't want you to target one of my people. So now I got to go like, so it's that sense of,

[01:11:31] I feel like it's looking at the stars or like side go all in. Right. Because I feel like charity in this case is not looking at the stars, but making talk. I don't know. I just feel like, right. And Camilla is at the water. She's at the well. She's driving. Yeah. Something that you ain't doing.

[01:12:07] Any, uh, standout players, anyone else that we didn't talk about that feel like worth mentioning? I just think episode one was more of that one. That's like emotional, grab the attention. I think next week is when we'll start to see like, okay, this person can really go and stand out and make moves. I just think it's so early right now to even, because I mean, you got to think when you don't lose,

[01:12:36] you're not shown as much. So we saw a lot of green, not enough of the other two. In my opinion. And losing, although it is bad, however, it builds your tribal council stamina up. And for me, makes you potentially a better choice to be a winner because you know what it's like to be in that heat. And so even though the purple pride might look so fat and they never go to a tribal for a long time,

[01:13:06] they're not equipped with some skills that other people might have that have been there. So it is really interesting. Uh, Shaheen, uh, is exactly what I thought. I love his energy, love his personality. He's just another person that I feel like radiates on the screen. And I'm excited to see how he connects. And again, I love the, the LA girlies. I think that Alliance is amazing. And I want to see how that is going to transcend because I almost want to say,

[01:13:35] I feel like the, the, the, the winner of this season could be a member of the California girlies. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I'm excited. I think it was a great start to this season. Yeah, I am. I'm worried for this green tribe though. I think they could be going to a lot of tribes. So he's giving me y'all. Seriously. I'm telling you. Yeah. Well, we will have to tune in next week to see what episode two is given.

[01:14:05] I can't thank y'all enough for tuning in. Quinn, Quinn, Quinn Tavious is always a pleasure to have you on our podcast screen. And hopefully you come back this season. Oh, we'll definitely see you in Chicago. Jack. Nashville. Yes. See man, Nashville first. The Chicago thing, you know, I'm still working it out. Okay. We're about to put you on a flyer Q. Don't put me on there yet. Give me a week. You know,

[01:14:35] I got, I got, I got, I got the baby boy at home. I got to make sure she's, cool. Me leaving two times back to back, you know, and you know, you know how I go. I'm excited though too. I mean, we got Los Angeles coming up next week. You know, I'm going to be there and we got to talk about that San Francisco too. And then I got my eyes on Austin too. And then who knows what the New York city finale, like there's a lot of ones that might be popping out too. So definitely baby boys next week. So very, very excited.

[01:15:05] Super excited. Before we leave though, I do window and Q. We were together in New York city for the premiere with Jeff probes. And it was so fun to see everybody and Jeff, but I think one of the most powerful moments for me was seeing ACE and Q and Winnie and Wendell together. I thought that was a super dope, super fun. BFF's in the making. Okay.

[01:15:33] Me and Wendell going to make sure them boys grow up doing something to get. I thought it was really cool, man. I thought it was really special. I didn't know how special it would be until I started looking at those photos. I'm like, man, like they are going to be friends. They're going to be like cousins, man. So yeah, that was great for Winnie to meet ACE, man. So I do have a question. If the phone rings, blood versus water season 71, y'all up for the call.

[01:16:03] ACE and Q, Winnie and Wendell. Hey, anything for ACE. If ACE, you know, they call and it's about ACE wanting to go and he just needs daddy to show up. I'm there. But also, you know, maybe I just throw Emily in the mix and say, Hey, you and ACE are going to do it. Cause Emily, she's the man, she's a survivor fan. So I'm going to throw Emily in the mix. Is Q scared of the Wendeezy smoke? Oh, no, I'm not, but you know,

[01:16:32] you got to spread the love. But at that time, you know, when are going to be 99 years old? You right. I like those. I like those BWP hats. I like that. I need one of those. Well, all right. Well, listen, this has been your survivor news for season 48, episode one. We'll see you next week. Thanks for listening. Peace. It's a purple pants. It's a purple pants. It's a purple pants podcast.

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