Rob Cesternino (@RobCesternino) interviews the latest castaway voted off the Survivor 47 island, followed by This Week In Survivor History with Jordan Kalish (@JordanKalish) where Rob plays against an RHAP patron.[00:00:00] Hey everybody, what's going on? Rob Sestrino back for our exit interview on a Monday after a busy Thanksgiving holiday. I hope you and yours, everybody here in the US had a great Thanksgiving holiday. I was traveling. Hope everybody had a nice trip also if they were on the road. But here we are back at work just for a quick day back here for me before I head out to Houston for our live show this week.
[00:00:28] But we are going to have our exit interview with Kyle, who my mom was such a huge fan. She stopped me at Thanksgiving and said, I loved Kyle. He was such a classy guy. He had such a great exit. Well, we're going to talk with him and find out everything that Kyle had going on here in Survivor 47. If you missed it over the holiday weekend, had a double dose of Survivors on the postgame show as Hunter and Tiffany from Survivor 46 joined me for that. And then Survivor Know-It-Alls with Steven.
[00:00:58] Steven from Friday. So all those are up. Plus, I'll have a club condo with Bryce Isaiah coming up on Monday night. But I see that we have Kyle on the line. Let's go ahead and patch him in. Hey, Kyle, what's going on? Rob Sestrino. Very nice to be chatting with you. First, how was Thanksgiving?
[00:01:16] I wasn't starving on a rock, that's for sure.
[00:01:18] Yeah, hopefully you weren't starving at all. Okay, Kyle, a lot to talk about here from your time on Survivor. Could you just tell us a little bit, how did you think Tribal Council was going to go the other night?
[00:01:33] Exactly how it went. You know, when you're when you play this game like I did, and I've referenced it, you know, before going a buck 20 or, or you're giving 120% of yourself for the reasons why you're here.
[00:01:45] When I came into Survivor, I knew that I was going to put my foot on the gas pedal. And I wasn't pulling my foot off the floor till I seen God or a checkered flag.
[00:01:51] And I knew that that could be my ultimate demise of the game, or it was going to be my ultimate, like, the power for the win of the game.
[00:02:03] And so, you know, it's exactly as I say, it's to be expected. When you start going hard like I do, when you have people that are like folded over in the shelter complaining of hunger and dehydration and getting lightheaded and can't stand up.
[00:02:15] And I'm dragging firewood out and I'm catching you crabs and I'm going to get you water and I'm winning challenges and I'm going on rewards and all these things.
[00:02:22] I'm coming home with this, this immunity. Seemingly every time I go after it, you know, it's it gets to a point where it's like, if you don't take me out, you're making me question your game at this point, because, like, I'm starting to not understand.
[00:02:37] And that was what one of the things that happened during the Saul vote. I'm very happy that Saul went home instead of me that night.
[00:02:44] But when Gabe took that immunity, that was that was the United Tribes time to click me then.
[00:02:51] That's when that should have happened. When that didn't happen.
[00:02:54] That was like a positive, concerning thing for me, because it's like, why didn't you do this?
[00:02:59] And that made me feel like I had some serious momentum in the game.
[00:03:03] Yeah. OK. Well, could you talk a little bit about that?
[00:03:06] Because I wanted to ask you how did the Saul vote?
[00:03:08] Because it feels like to me that the Saul vote changed the whole season.
[00:03:12] So how did that affect your game, the Saul vote?
[00:03:16] So Saul and I, I want to start with Saul is awesome, man.
[00:03:19] Like, as many people have said before me, Saul is an amazing person.
[00:03:24] And I had the opportunity to spend late nights, early mornings, like talking with Saul in such depths that it's like such personal levels.
[00:03:32] That I haven't talked to even some of my friends this deep before.
[00:03:35] And so I connected good with Saul.
[00:03:37] But here's the thing.
[00:03:39] We're on Survivor.
[00:03:41] And when I go to a challenge and I'm going against Gabe and I think I can beat Gabe and then Gabe beats me and gets an immunity around his neck.
[00:03:48] And I don't have that safety power after I've been a physical threat.
[00:03:52] I'm back at camp now.
[00:03:54] Now I have to figure out who I could paint the target as, you know, a bigger threat than me.
[00:03:59] And the way that I did that was by painting me as the biggest threat.
[00:04:04] And so I went to Genevieve, Gabe.
[00:04:07] I went to anybody that I felt like was anybody that I identified themselves as a threatening player or had been told that they were a threat.
[00:04:17] And told them, hey, do you understand that if I go home tonight, you're literally going to go home next.
[00:04:22] Like, you can see this pecking order.
[00:04:24] The tribe has been threat hunting nonstop.
[00:04:26] And it's been very apparent.
[00:04:27] It's unanimous every single time.
[00:04:30] And so it's like, you understand, Genevieve.
[00:04:32] If I go home, you're gone.
[00:04:35] Gabe, if I go home and you don't have that necklace on, you're out.
[00:04:38] Like, there's no point in it.
[00:04:39] So you might as well keep me around.
[00:04:41] And I tried to tell them, like, my social game has been weak.
[00:04:43] Like, haven't been talking much, whatever, which I think is bunk.
[00:04:46] I think I had a great social game.
[00:04:47] I had wonderful conversations with so many.
[00:04:51] But what I wanted them to do is feel like something that they've been doing is going to have the upper hand on me in the end game.
[00:04:57] So, yes, keep me.
[00:04:57] Keep me around.
[00:04:58] Let me be a part of your alliance.
[00:05:00] You know, be known that I will be a part.
[00:05:02] I will be a number for you the whole way through and let you feel confident enough that you can beat me in the end.
[00:05:07] And that's when I will open up my book of recipes and show you the reason I'm going to take that million dollars instead of you.
[00:05:15] And so Genevieve, you know, she came to me and gave some clarification and, you know, recognized that motion that I put in.
[00:05:24] And she, you know, came to me with Gabe and was like, hey, you know, like, what do you think about taking out Saul?
[00:05:29] And I'm like, you see, I don't have this necklace on.
[00:05:32] Hell yeah.
[00:05:33] So, like, without even a thought, man, I was like, let's do it.
[00:05:36] And they approached me by saying Saul was after me.
[00:05:39] Yeah.
[00:05:39] Which was, like, a wonderful way to approach me because I felt like Saul was, like, the mafia on the island.
[00:05:46] Like, he's, like, good looking.
[00:05:48] I thought you were in the SSA.
[00:05:50] Yeah, that's what I thought.
[00:05:52] But Saul was intimidating to me.
[00:05:55] Yeah.
[00:05:56] If you can make me feel that way, you can make anybody feel that way.
[00:06:00] And he's a powerful player.
[00:06:01] He was able to read crap immediately.
[00:06:04] He was able to see the future.
[00:06:05] He had a one.
[00:06:06] He was good.
[00:06:07] Sure.
[00:06:07] Okay.
[00:06:08] Well, let me get to some other stuff because we have so much to get to.
[00:06:11] What made you vote for Teenie at this vote?
[00:06:14] So, Teenie, in the endgame, they don't show it in before I go to the tribal council.
[00:06:19] But what I did is I threw a bait and a hook out.
[00:06:21] And by bait and hook, I mean, you obviously seen earlier in the game, I referred to Caroline
[00:06:26] and Sue as Tweedledee and Tweedledum, two people alike in the game.
[00:06:30] And that was picked up very quickly.
[00:06:32] And that word came back to me very quickly.
[00:06:35] So, I knew where that information leaked, right?
[00:06:38] So, when it was coming to my endgame, I gave somebody a piece of information.
[00:06:42] Teenie.
[00:06:43] And before long, Caroline came back to me.
[00:06:47] Kyle, did you say this?
[00:06:49] Yes, I did.
[00:06:50] There's my leak in the boat right there.
[00:06:52] I told Caroline.
[00:06:53] I said, Caroline, I promise you, I told Teenie this information because I was waiting for
[00:06:57] you to come back to me.
[00:06:58] She's literally like spreading everybody's like, you know, every plan that anybody's had
[00:07:02] is open on the table because of her.
[00:07:04] So, I was just, it was my tell Mary at saying, hey, she's a liability to everybody's game.
[00:07:09] You can't talk strategy without your game being blown up.
[00:07:12] So, just to add, I have my understanding.
[00:07:14] So, you only said Tweedledee and Tweedledum to Teenie and Teenie was then the person reporting?
[00:07:19] No, not what I told the Teenie.
[00:07:21] That was-
[00:07:21] There was a different piece of information?
[00:07:23] Yeah, that Tweedledee and Tweedledum thing.
[00:07:25] That was shit that I told Rome because I was trying to make people that I wanted to work
[00:07:29] with or to keep around seem like they weren't important to me.
[00:07:33] Got it.
[00:07:34] You know, that's just, that's the way that I talk.
[00:07:36] I don't expect people to understand it.
[00:07:38] It's just what it is.
[00:07:39] Now, Kyle, I don't know if you know this, if you're aware, but I think that Sue maybe
[00:07:45] didn't love spending time with you on the island.
[00:07:49] Did you get that impression when you were out there?
[00:07:54] No, not when I was out there.
[00:07:56] I knew that she didn't really care for me much.
[00:07:58] I knew that she didn't want to talk strategy with me.
[00:08:00] I knew that I rubbed her the wrong way from the very beginning when I voted against
[00:08:03] her with TK.
[00:08:04] And, you know, that is what it is.
[00:08:07] She chose to hyper fixate on that, but she didn't, she didn't, she was not ugly to me
[00:08:11] on the island.
[00:08:12] I want to make that very clear.
[00:08:13] If I needed something and Sue was able, she helped me.
[00:08:17] How did it feel watching some of that back on the season where she seemed to really not
[00:08:24] love what you were putting out there on the island?
[00:08:27] That was, that's the alarming part, right?
[00:08:30] Because on the island, like I just said to my face, she was a happy-go-lucky girl.
[00:08:35] Like there was a one time where she shut me down before a challenge.
[00:08:38] I was trying to talk strategy just in case something happened.
[00:08:41] We could have a pregame and she didn't like that.
[00:08:43] She just wanted good energy.
[00:08:44] I can respect that.
[00:08:46] But, you know, that's, like I say, the concerning thing is, is that this person was nice to me,
[00:08:51] to my face on the island and seemingly bad to me and her confessionals.
[00:08:55] So who knows?
[00:08:57] So you were part of the group that voted out Gabe.
[00:09:00] You wanted Gabe to go out.
[00:09:03] What surprised you when you got back to camp after Gabe got voted out?
[00:09:11] You know, I honestly, I wasn't really too surprised after Gabe got voted out.
[00:09:15] I was just trying to understand where to get my footing at this point because I've been working on.
[00:09:20] What do you think would happen after Gabe went home?
[00:09:25] There's going to be me or Genevieve next.
[00:09:28] I mean, the way I was looking at it was a very black and white.
[00:09:31] I was looking at players individually.
[00:09:33] I was giving them each a threat level and I was watching high threat levels get knocked out repeatedly,
[00:09:38] almost as if it was a domino effect.
[00:09:41] So I knew that if I didn't go hard and continue to win, it was going to be a problem.
[00:09:45] But you heard clear as day and I said it out of my own mouth.
[00:09:49] I thought I could beat Gabe in that individual immunity.
[00:09:51] It was a teamed effort to appoint that individual at the end of the challenge.
[00:09:55] It was a couple piece program and Gabe beat me and took the necklace home for himself.
[00:09:59] I couldn't risk.
[00:10:00] Yeah.
[00:10:01] I don't know if you can answer this question, Kyle.
[00:10:03] How come Andy wrote down Genevieve's name?
[00:10:09] I don't know.
[00:10:10] I don't think I can answer that.
[00:10:12] Okay.
[00:10:12] I don't know.
[00:10:14] Just to be fair.
[00:10:15] Yeah.
[00:10:15] I wasn't sure if...
[00:10:17] Because he said he was loyal to the soil to you.
[00:10:21] That's...
[00:10:21] He was.
[00:10:22] And which is strange because I kind of...
[00:10:26] Andy's a very smart person.
[00:10:28] And I think he understood where Teenie was at.
[00:10:33] And I think that her running around and being that liability was a perfect masking for him
[00:10:39] in the game.
[00:10:40] So I think going after Genevieve was the brilliant move to write her name down.
[00:10:45] But I talked to Andy, Genevieve, Sam, Caroline, all before my vote out.
[00:10:52] And I tried to get on the same page with all of them and just say, hey, like, y'all been
[00:10:56] with me through thick and thin.
[00:10:58] Like, you know, you got me.
[00:10:59] I'll do anything for you at this point.
[00:11:00] Even if you sacrifice me tomorrow, like this day, this transition point is what matters
[00:11:05] to me right here.
[00:11:06] And so I think that Andy was on the right track.
[00:11:09] And I should have went for Genevieve as well.
[00:11:11] But I was letting the noise get to me.
[00:11:13] And I was willing to throw my Hail Mary at that noisy player instead of that silent killer
[00:11:19] in the corner.
[00:11:20] We saw during the season that, you know, you're on Survivor.
[00:11:24] You're going to eat the food that's out there.
[00:11:27] Did you go back to being vegan once you came home from Survivor?
[00:11:32] Or did you fall off the wagon?
[00:11:35] I'm a vegetarian.
[00:11:36] So I do not eat meat at all.
[00:11:38] I do not do that.
[00:11:40] And so it was challenging for me on the island.
[00:11:43] But you've seen on the island, we deteriorated, man.
[00:11:45] I mean, shoot.
[00:11:46] You've seen how well I ate.
[00:11:48] Arguably, Kyle ate the best on season 47 out of anybody.
[00:11:53] I still lost 17 pounds in 20 days, Rob.
[00:11:57] That's crazy.
[00:11:58] So it's like when you're out there with such a huge goal in mind and so much, I mean,
[00:12:03] I'm carrying the weight of the world on my shoulders is what it feels like.
[00:12:06] So yes, like when the opportunity comes for any kind of nourishment, even though it does
[00:12:11] make you question yourself at times, take it, dude.
[00:12:14] Take it.
[00:12:14] How much of a surprise was it for you that you were such natural at the challenges?
[00:12:20] That popped my mind.
[00:12:21] I didn't think that I would be that good, honestly.
[00:12:24] But I've never hit that hard in my life, Rob.
[00:12:28] I've never ran that hard.
[00:12:29] I've never crawled that fast.
[00:12:30] I've never done anything like that that hard in my life.
[00:12:33] And it was like something about being vulnerable.
[00:12:36] And when my body clicked survival mode and I realized that it was like me, it was just
[00:12:41] me.
[00:12:41] And all I had was me.
[00:12:42] And the only person that's been standing in my way was me.
[00:12:45] I pushed my ass out the way.
[00:12:47] It was running like I never ran before.
[00:12:50] Yeah.
[00:12:51] And Kyle, you've talked so much about your family and everybody back home.
[00:12:56] What's been the response from all those people that you keep it a buck 20 for seeing you out
[00:13:01] there?
[00:13:04] Rob, what my personality and what my character has done in the game and coming out of the
[00:13:10] game is it created a safety net for families across the nation and if not the world.
[00:13:18] Wow.
[00:13:18] And when I say, I do not, I do not say it lightly.
[00:13:22] I mean it very boldly.
[00:13:24] It's the safety net for families across the nation right now is incredible.
[00:13:29] My family doesn't need, I've never asked.
[00:13:33] I don't ask for help.
[00:13:34] If I need something, I'm going to figure it out or I'm just going to struggle until I fall
[00:13:38] so far, there's nowhere else to fall other than you hit the bottom and stand back up.
[00:13:43] But what has happened is I'm seeing my community.
[00:13:45] I'm seeing other people from other communities.
[00:13:47] I'm seeing people come from out of state and gather and take part in watching the show
[00:13:52] together and feeding one another and just taking care of one another and all with family
[00:13:58] in mind.
[00:13:59] None of it's negative.
[00:14:00] It's all very positive.
[00:14:01] And what that's done is it's ignited this light in so many people.
[00:14:05] It's put this energy out that's bonded so many of us together.
[00:14:08] It's unbelievable.
[00:14:10] I never knew that that happened.
[00:14:11] I never thought I could be a person that could make that happen.
[00:14:14] But I'll tell you right now, Rob, that even though I didn't win that million dollars,
[00:14:18] what we've done out there is far beyond what I can even perceive.
[00:14:23] That's amazing to hear.
[00:14:24] And I had been telling people that my mom told me at Thanksgiving, she's like, you know
[00:14:29] what, Kyle, that was what a classy exit that that's I'm going to remember that what he
[00:14:35] said.
[00:14:35] So you really you made a big impression in my family.
[00:14:41] My mom was a big Kyle fan.
[00:14:43] That's amazing.
[00:14:45] And that I'm talking about.
[00:14:47] If we can't win the million dollars, it's those things that that that bit right there,
[00:14:51] Rob, what you just said is that ripple effect.
[00:14:53] We threw the stone and it hit the water and now it created a ripple that's going to travel
[00:14:57] out indefinitely.
[00:14:58] It may get smaller over time.
[00:15:01] Nature is going to take its course, but we put the ripple in effect and it's highlighted
[00:15:06] so much that positive and right around Thanksgiving, even how cool to highlight.
[00:15:11] I didn't know it was going to work out like that.
[00:15:13] I didn't even know I was going to say that.
[00:15:14] I didn't even realize I was saying those things until I watched it back.
[00:15:17] And I was like, holy shit, Kyle, you just put a rock in your throat, buddy.
[00:15:20] Good job.
[00:15:21] All right.
[00:15:21] Well, Kyle, I know you got to run.
[00:15:23] Thanks for making some time.
[00:15:25] All the best to you and the family outside the show.
[00:15:27] Okay.
[00:15:28] Thanks, Rob.
[00:15:29] I appreciate you and your time.
[00:15:30] All right.
[00:15:30] Thanks a lot, Kyle.
[00:15:31] Take care.
[00:15:32] Bye.
[00:15:32] All right, everybody.
[00:15:33] There you have it.
[00:15:34] There is Kyle.
[00:15:36] And yeah, it was a, I think also maybe my son Anthony's also favorite from this season.
[00:15:43] Talks about him a lot.
[00:15:44] All right.
[00:15:45] So there you have it.
[00:15:47] There's Kyle and Kyle trying to make everybody out into a threat.
[00:15:51] But then ultimately they came back around and said, wait, actually, you're the threat.
[00:15:54] So ultimately didn't work out, but seems like a super nice guy.
[00:15:59] Speaking of nice guys, Jordan Kalish is waiting to play this week in Survivor History with us and talk about everything that went on in episode 11 in Survivor History when we come back right after this.
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[00:17:49] All right, we've got our This Week in Survivor history after our belated exit interview.
[00:17:57] Back here with us, the king of Survivor, Jordan Kalish.
[00:18:00] Yo, how you doing, Rob? How was the Thanksgiving?
[00:18:03] Good.
[00:18:05] Good.
[00:18:05] How's the Cyber Monday for you, Jordan?
[00:18:07] You getting any deals?
[00:18:08] So many deals.
[00:18:10] So many great things are going to be shipped to my house.
[00:18:13] I'm so excited.
[00:18:14] The worst part of shopping online is that then there's a lot of deal FOMO.
[00:18:19] You buy something, it's like, oh, there had a bit, oh, now it's on sale?
[00:18:25] You got to be happy with the deals you get.
[00:18:27] You can't keep looking.
[00:18:29] You can't keep looking.
[00:18:30] Once you have it, you stop looking, and that's how you avoid it.
[00:18:32] You do with plane tickets also.
[00:18:35] You can't, once you buy it, just don't search.
[00:18:37] Okay.
[00:18:38] All right.
[00:18:39] Well, I've been taking on the patrons all season long on This Week in Survivor history.
[00:18:43] And here with us, somebody who I speak to quite frequently on the Survivor patron Q&A,
[00:18:51] Erica is here.
[00:18:52] Erica, how are you?
[00:18:54] Hi, I'm doing well, Rob.
[00:18:55] Rested up.
[00:18:56] Yes.
[00:18:57] Thanksgiving weekend.
[00:18:58] Okay.
[00:18:59] All right.
[00:18:59] You've recuperated?
[00:19:01] Yes.
[00:19:02] Okay.
[00:19:02] All right.
[00:19:02] Are you ready to talk some Survivor trivia?
[00:19:05] I am.
[00:19:07] I'm hoping that we can win one for the patrons.
[00:19:11] Win one for the patrons.
[00:19:12] Oh, I didn't think of it that you're playing for all the patrons, that they're all rooting for you.
[00:19:16] I am.
[00:19:17] And yes, they can get behind this.
[00:19:20] You're doing it for the patrons.
[00:19:21] Win for the patrons.
[00:19:22] Yes.
[00:19:23] Okay.
[00:19:24] All right.
[00:19:25] Well, the patrons, they have not gotten a lot of wins this season.
[00:19:30] I know.
[00:19:31] I'm sad.
[00:19:32] It's been a pretty dominant run here for myself.
[00:19:40] Yeah.
[00:19:41] What are you going to do?
[00:19:43] I don't know, but I'm going to try to beat you today.
[00:19:45] That's what I know.
[00:19:49] Okay.
[00:19:50] Jordan, is it going to throw you off at all that we're going to have a two-part finale?
[00:19:52] That means we get a bonus week of Twish.
[00:19:55] We do.
[00:19:56] We get the bonus Twish.
[00:19:58] I don't think it's going to throw me off.
[00:20:00] I am in the Brian Cohen school here where a two-part finale is just an episode before the finale and then a two-hour finale.
[00:20:07] Yeah, but you could do episode 13s and then incorporate all the finales.
[00:20:11] So we don't normally get to do finale Twish.
[00:20:13] To be fair, I think the last couple seasons I've been skipping to the finales anyway.
[00:20:17] So I don't really think it changes much.
[00:20:18] I think it's better for your Twish business.
[00:20:20] I mean, I prefer it.
[00:20:22] We get to do an extra game.
[00:20:23] We get to meet an extra patron that we wouldn't have met.
[00:20:26] So the week 13 patron is going to be like the bonus patron.
[00:20:28] All right.
[00:20:30] Erica, you know how this all works?
[00:20:32] I do.
[00:20:33] I do have one quick question.
[00:20:34] Sure.
[00:20:35] Yes.
[00:20:35] For Jordan.
[00:20:35] So if I don't get the question right, Rob can steal one or two points.
[00:20:41] I forget.
[00:20:42] He could only steal one.
[00:20:43] Whether you get the multiple choice or not, he could steal one point.
[00:20:46] Okay.
[00:20:47] That's the max.
[00:20:50] And, you know, we've been eating turkey all week.
[00:20:53] It's time to talk turkey because we're going to the seasons.
[00:20:56] We have exile islands, Micronesia, Redemption Island, Karamoan, 42 and 44.
[00:21:07] Erica, where are you taking us first?
[00:21:09] Well, can you repeat?
[00:21:11] I'm sorry.
[00:21:11] He says it very fast, Erica.
[00:21:13] I thought that was slow.
[00:21:14] That was good.
[00:21:15] Exile Island, Micronesia.
[00:21:17] I think even if you're listening on 1.5 screen, you got this.
[00:21:19] You need like a stenography machine to keep up.
[00:21:22] Okay.
[00:21:23] I need a metronome to just keep me in rhythm.
[00:21:26] Exile Islands.
[00:21:29] Micronesia.
[00:21:29] You're not making music.
[00:21:31] Yeah, but I could do it based on like...
[00:21:34] I used to play music.
[00:21:35] I know how to count the beats of a metronome, Rob.
[00:21:38] One of my many talents.
[00:21:41] So Micronesia.
[00:21:44] Redemption Island.
[00:21:45] Okay.
[00:21:47] Karamoan.
[00:21:48] So you got a little head bob now.
[00:21:50] Okay.
[00:21:51] 42.
[00:21:52] Got the head bob again.
[00:21:54] Yeah.
[00:21:54] And 44.
[00:21:55] 44.
[00:21:56] So those are your six seasons.
[00:21:58] Erica, where are we going first?
[00:22:01] I just made my husband watch this because he didn't watch...
[00:22:05] He's never seen it.
[00:22:06] Exile Island.
[00:22:07] Funniest season ever.
[00:22:08] I agree.
[00:22:09] What did he think of it?
[00:22:11] It was hilarious.
[00:22:12] He thought it was funny.
[00:22:13] Okay.
[00:22:14] It is a very funny season.
[00:22:16] I've often called it the funniest season in Survivor history.
[00:22:18] I would stand by that.
[00:22:20] Up there with Kageyan, and I think Guatemala is pretty funny too.
[00:22:25] Who got to go on a spa reward by winning the Touchy Subjects Chop Challenge?
[00:22:32] Okay.
[00:22:32] Okay.
[00:22:33] Just...
[00:22:34] I'm pretty sure it was Sari because I think it was where Kourtney got all the, you know,
[00:22:40] negative things.
[00:22:41] So...
[00:22:43] Spa and she took somebody?
[00:22:45] Is that what happened?
[00:22:48] So...
[00:22:49] I don't want to say it because then Rob's like...
[00:22:53] Yeah.
[00:22:53] So who got to go on the spa reward by winning the Touchy Subjects Challenge?
[00:22:57] So it's just the person who won the challenge is what you're looking for.
[00:23:02] I'm going to go with Sari.
[00:23:03] It was the only challenge she's ever won, I think, too.
[00:23:06] You're going with your gut, and I was actually going to throw that fact out.
[00:23:09] It is the only individual challenge that Sari has won in her Survivor career.
[00:23:13] I love Sari.
[00:23:13] Makes sense that it's based on the social game.
[00:23:16] Yes.
[00:23:17] One of the best social players and strategic players in Survivor history.
[00:23:20] Erica, you have two points.
[00:23:22] Rob, you get the next question.
[00:23:25] Okay.
[00:23:25] I'm going to go with Survivor 44.
[00:23:28] All right.
[00:23:28] 44.
[00:23:30] Who won the last Gasp Immunity Challenge in Survivor 44?
[00:23:37] Classic Survivor Challenge.
[00:23:39] Yeah.
[00:23:40] I know we talk about it more so in Survivor 43.
[00:23:47] Yes.
[00:23:48] That would have been too easy.
[00:23:49] Yeah.
[00:23:50] Okay.
[00:23:52] No, I got it.
[00:23:53] I think I conflated the two of them.
[00:23:56] Jam Jam is the winner of Last Gasp.
[00:24:00] So Jam Jam's name was being thrown out in this episode by Danny.
[00:24:04] He did win Immunity, so that's why there ended up being some votes on Carson instead.
[00:24:08] Rob, you get two points.
[00:24:10] We are tied going into the third question.
[00:24:13] And Erica, you get to choose the next season.
[00:24:15] Let's go Micronesia.
[00:24:17] All right.
[00:24:18] Going to Micronesia.
[00:24:19] Who was sent to Exile Island during the Survivor auction, allowing them to find the re-hidden idol?
[00:24:27] Okay.
[00:24:27] Let's think about this.
[00:24:30] Who was Micronesia?
[00:24:36] It was during the auction.
[00:24:39] Oh, yeah.
[00:24:40] Who took all the money?
[00:24:41] Yeah.
[00:24:43] Natalie was like, duh, but you're going to be able to look for the idol again, right?
[00:24:48] Yes.
[00:24:48] Okay.
[00:24:48] So that had to be, he's a gymnastics instructor.
[00:24:53] His name is Jason Siska?
[00:24:57] Siska?
[00:24:58] It is Jason Siska, but you don't have to get the last name.
[00:25:00] That is correct, Erica.
[00:25:02] Is he a gymnastics instructor?
[00:25:04] I didn't remember that, but I believe Erica.
[00:25:06] I think she knows her stuff.
[00:25:08] Yeah.
[00:25:08] You don't need to say what his job is.
[00:25:10] I'm sorry.
[00:25:11] I just, that's how I remembered his name.
[00:25:13] Sorry.
[00:25:13] Of course, in the same episode, he would get voted out with the idol.
[00:25:17] So it didn't last long.
[00:25:18] Rob, you get to choose the next question.
[00:25:20] Okay.
[00:25:21] Um, I'm going to go with, um, how about 42?
[00:25:31] All right.
[00:25:32] 42, our other new era season.
[00:25:34] Who was the knowledge is power advantage unsuccessfully played on in this episode's tribal council?
[00:25:41] So not the person who used it, who did they essentially mafia investigate?
[00:25:54] So I believe it was Drea asks Mike, uh, if he has an idol.
[00:26:04] So Drea asks Mike, that is correct.
[00:26:08] Rob, you get two points.
[00:26:10] Yes.
[00:26:10] Uh, Mike did have the idol, but little tricky boy, Omer was able to, was able to tip him off.
[00:26:15] And he, he, he got to hold onto the idol until the next episode.
[00:26:18] So that is correct.
[00:26:20] Uh, this is also the same tribal council, uh, where, where Lindsay could have gone out on the do or die, but she survived the Monty Hall problem.
[00:26:27] So we are tied four to four.
[00:26:29] The stakes are high.
[00:26:30] There's two more questions left.
[00:26:32] Um, both of you in good position here to get the win.
[00:26:35] Uh, Erica, are we going to redemption Island or Cara Moen?
[00:26:38] I'm trying to decide.
[00:26:41] Let's two legendary headed to the tiebreaker.
[00:26:44] Also, we could.
[00:26:45] Oh, that's going to be scary.
[00:26:49] Um, let's go Cara Moen.
[00:26:51] All right.
[00:26:52] Survivor Cara Moen.
[00:26:54] There has been a lot of talk about three-way tied votes this season based on survivor 47's revelation that a voted for player can vote in a re-vote if the other player lost their vote.
[00:27:03] One of these three-way ties occurred when Malcolm was voted out of Cara Moen.
[00:27:08] Which two players did he tie with the, on the initial three to three to three votes?
[00:27:12] So there were three players who received three votes.
[00:27:14] One of them, you know, is Malcolm.
[00:27:15] You need to get the other two.
[00:27:18] Okay.
[00:27:19] Um, Malcolm.
[00:27:23] And it had to be one of the other guys, uh, in that alliance.
[00:27:27] It was either Eddie or, uh, the used car salesman.
[00:27:32] He's not a used car salesman.
[00:27:34] I'm sorry.
[00:27:35] I keep mentioning professions.
[00:27:37] What was his?
[00:27:38] Might be a gymnastics instructor.
[00:27:40] No, no, no, no, no, no.
[00:27:41] They were calling him a used car salesman.
[00:27:43] So it's Eddie or Reynolds.
[00:27:45] And then it's got to be somebody from the favorites.
[00:27:49] The.
[00:27:51] And.
[00:27:52] It's a pretty hard question.
[00:27:53] I have to say.
[00:27:54] Not an easy question.
[00:27:55] This is this, maybe the hardest on the quiz.
[00:28:00] Um, one more time.
[00:28:02] I'm sorry.
[00:28:03] I just want to know what exactly I'm answering.
[00:28:05] Sorry.
[00:28:05] So this, there was a three way tie.
[00:28:08] Malcolm was the one voted out of the game.
[00:28:10] Which two players did he tie with on the initial three to three to three vote?
[00:28:14] So you're looking for two players who received three votes on the initial vote.
[00:28:19] Okay.
[00:28:19] I think I have the favorites person and I'm going to guess on if it's Eddie or Reynolds.
[00:28:26] I'm going to go Reynolds and Andrea.
[00:28:29] Reynolds and Andrea Belke.
[00:28:31] If you're right, you really proved that, you know, their stuff and you do Erica.
[00:28:35] Erica, two points.
[00:28:37] Wow.
[00:28:37] Congratulations.
[00:28:38] You have a perfect score for that of six.
[00:28:41] Yeah, I agree.
[00:28:41] That's it.
[00:28:41] I always said.
[00:28:42] It's always like Sherry as the other person.
[00:28:46] So Sherry was not if we had gone to the multiple choice.
[00:28:49] Sherry was not one.
[00:28:50] Even one of the fake answers.
[00:28:52] I, uh, the Eddie and Brenda were the two people that were involved in the multiple choice
[00:28:55] that would have been incorrect.
[00:28:57] Uh, yeah, could it, could have been, uh, Sherry.
[00:28:59] So the multiple choice would have been you gave four names and then.
[00:29:03] That's what I always do.
[00:29:04] It was Eddie and Andrea.
[00:29:05] Yeah.
[00:29:05] Eddie and Brenda.
[00:29:06] Two of them.
[00:29:07] You have to pick two.
[00:29:08] So Eddie and it, no, no, no, no.
[00:29:09] It would have been Eddie and Andrea, Eddie and Brenda, Reynolds and Andrea, Reynolds and
[00:29:12] Brenda.
[00:29:13] Okay.
[00:29:13] So each correct, each correct answer would have had two names.
[00:29:16] Okay.
[00:29:17] You've been around the block before.
[00:29:18] You know how this is done.
[00:29:19] I was surprised.
[00:29:20] I thought that you were just going to give four names and then two of them were right.
[00:29:23] No, that, that would be insane.
[00:29:25] Insanity.
[00:29:26] All right, Rob, you need to get this question right.
[00:29:29] We are going to redemption Island.
[00:29:32] Philip Shepard claimed to have a premonition from his great, great grandfather, Jessam Herring,
[00:29:36] which allowed him to find his pink shorts, which had been hidden in the previous episode
[00:29:41] by which player who hid his pink shorts.
[00:29:44] I believe that was Julie.
[00:29:48] Julie Wolf.
[00:29:49] If you're right, we are going to the tiebreaker.
[00:29:52] If you're wrong, Erica is going to take it home for the patrons.
[00:29:54] And for the time being, we have a tie because that is correct.
[00:29:58] We are tied six to six.
[00:30:00] So what we have done in the past with the tiebreaker, I believe when it was episode eight, we did the
[00:30:06] eighth place players.
[00:30:07] It wouldn't make sense to go backwards to the 11th place players because none of them would
[00:30:11] have been voted out this week in survivor history.
[00:30:14] So this, uh, this is kind of a week where we've been at different points in different
[00:30:19] seasons.
[00:30:19] You had this prepared.
[00:30:21] You had this prepped already.
[00:30:22] Yes.
[00:30:22] I mean, I have to give it up for the self-proclaimed King of survivor because I do have to, I
[00:30:28] have to pull up the randomizer, but I do, I did have the, uh, the idea in place just
[00:30:31] in case, uh, we were, uh, we were tied.
[00:30:34] We are going to go with the first jurors because there are plenty of seasons of this week
[00:30:39] in survivor history where this would, this episode starts the jury.
[00:30:42] So more of the newer seasons, we're already into the jury at this point, but we're going
[00:30:46] to go with the first juror.
[00:30:47] I feel like that's something that is possible to remember without being too easy or too hard.
[00:30:51] The mayor of Ponderosa.
[00:30:53] Mayor of Ponderosa.
[00:30:54] So I am going to the number randomizer.
[00:30:58] We're going seasons one to 45 and we're starting with Erica.
[00:31:03] No 46.
[00:31:04] So no.
[00:31:06] Oh yeah.
[00:31:07] One to 46.
[00:31:07] You're right.
[00:31:07] I don't know why I said 45, but okay.
[00:31:10] One to 46.
[00:31:11] Uh, Erica, we get to start with the very first season survivor Borneo.
[00:31:14] Who was the mayor of Ponderosa?
[00:31:16] The first juror.
[00:31:17] First juror in survivor history.
[00:31:19] Okay.
[00:31:21] I have to talk this through, honestly.
[00:31:23] Yeah.
[00:31:23] You're it's a long time.
[00:31:26] Um, we know.
[00:31:28] And do I get a steal on these in the tiebreaker?
[00:31:31] No.
[00:31:32] If Erica is wrong.
[00:31:33] I'm asking the, you asked a rules question.
[00:31:35] I can ask a rules question.
[00:31:38] If Erica is wrong, you'll get your own season.
[00:31:41] Okay.
[00:31:41] Great.
[00:31:42] Cause I know, I know who the first juror survivor of the Amazon is.
[00:31:46] It's Borneo.
[00:31:48] You said she gets it wrong.
[00:31:50] I'm going to get my own season.
[00:31:52] Uh, okay.
[00:31:53] Very good.
[00:31:53] Very good.
[00:31:54] We're also an all stars.
[00:31:56] Uh, I, this is, this is a guess.
[00:32:04] God darn it.
[00:32:05] Why the first one?
[00:32:06] I'm sorry.
[00:32:07] I do apologize for the language.
[00:32:10] That wasn't so bad.
[00:32:13] It's not what I really wanted to say.
[00:32:15] I, I don't think I'm right, but I'm going to go with Greg.
[00:32:19] Greg Buis.
[00:32:20] Rob, is she right?
[00:32:21] She's right.
[00:32:22] She's right.
[00:32:23] Erica, you get the point.
[00:32:24] You were at seven.
[00:32:25] If Rob gets the next one wrong, he is going to be dark.
[00:32:29] A shot in the dark.
[00:32:31] All right.
[00:32:32] Rob, you are going to go with season 21.
[00:32:36] We're going to survivor Nicaragua.
[00:32:39] Um, really the middle is really my weakness.
[00:32:46] Um, yes.
[00:32:46] I feel like that's a lot of people's weakness.
[00:32:49] Okay.
[00:32:50] The first juror.
[00:32:52] Well, I can talk it through as well.
[00:32:56] Um, was it that dirt squirrel Alina or was there somebody that came after?
[00:33:03] Did Alina vote at the final tribal council?
[00:33:08] Um, I'm going to say that the mayor of Ponderosa was somebody who I believe was mentioned early in this podcast.
[00:33:24] I'm going to say Brenda was the mayor of Ponderosa.
[00:33:27] No, I'm wrong.
[00:33:28] Brenda Lowe was a juror on that season.
[00:33:32] She was the third juror.
[00:33:34] You should have gone with your gut, Rob.
[00:33:37] It was the dirt squirrel.
[00:33:38] Nobody remembers fricking Alina.
[00:33:41] Other than her.
[00:33:42] You said her.
[00:33:43] You said her name.
[00:33:44] Forgettable survivor contestant of all time.
[00:33:47] She was my winner pick.
[00:33:48] You said her name.
[00:33:49] So clearly you remember that she was a person, but Erica wins the game seven to six.
[00:33:53] It's not always the case where the first, the first, uh, the, that the merge boot is also the first juror, but she was Alina was.
[00:33:59] Uh, so Erica, congratulations.
[00:34:01] The streak is over.
[00:34:02] Uh, Rob is eight and three on the season and you are going to take home.
[00:34:06] Well done.
[00:34:06] You deserve the win for getting that, uh, survivor caramel in question.
[00:34:10] Right.
[00:34:11] That was a tough one.
[00:34:12] Thank you.
[00:34:12] I would not have gotten that one either.
[00:34:15] Oh, I think you would have.
[00:34:16] No, I would have said Sherry.
[00:34:18] Really?
[00:34:19] I don't know.
[00:34:19] I guess if I had the multiple choices, maybe I would have got to it, but I don't know.
[00:34:23] I think Sherry did get some votes at the next travel.
[00:34:26] Give me another season.
[00:34:27] Give me another season in the randomizer.
[00:34:29] Uh, let's see.
[00:34:30] Let's see who you get here.
[00:34:31] We're going to go to a season 25 Philippines.
[00:34:35] Philippines.
[00:34:36] First member of the jury was an eight person jury.
[00:34:40] So, okay.
[00:34:43] Uh, I know Jeff Kent is on the jury.
[00:34:45] Is he the, is he the mayor of Ponderosa?
[00:34:48] Whereas our, I think RC is the mayor of Ponderosa.
[00:34:50] So it was RC like Alina.
[00:34:53] Also, uh, my, my winner pick.
[00:34:54] And I, I guess I don't have to do so well with my, with my, one more.
[00:34:57] One more.
[00:34:59] Let's see how you do on this one.
[00:35:00] And that's why the, the randomizer is so important.
[00:35:02] We're going to attend Palau.
[00:35:06] Kobe.
[00:35:07] It is Kobe.
[00:35:07] I don't even have to Wikipedia that one.
[00:35:10] Yeah.
[00:35:10] I always do just to, just to double check, but yeah, Kobe, Kobe was the, uh, the first
[00:35:14] person voted out after the, uh, the, the, whatever you call the merge on Palau.
[00:35:18] Okay.
[00:35:18] All right.
[00:35:19] Dissolve.
[00:35:20] Erica, what's your, uh, level of love for a verbal rebus puzzle?
[00:35:25] I do like them a lot, but I feel like Jordan may read them too quickly.
[00:35:30] So I can't keep up my, like, would a metronome help?
[00:35:34] Do you think?
[00:35:35] I don't know.
[00:35:36] Like I have a little piece of, I've been scratching things down as we're playing and
[00:35:41] I just want to scratch it down and word it out.
[00:35:43] Cause I never get the chance.
[00:35:44] Okay.
[00:35:45] All right.
[00:35:45] All right.
[00:35:45] So we're going with a slow verbal rebus today.
[00:35:49] Okay.
[00:35:49] We're going to really, really make it last.
[00:35:52] Uh, okay.
[00:35:53] So Guatemala Cindy could have given these to everyone, but chose to keep one for herself.
[00:36:01] Okay.
[00:36:04] Minus the last bit.
[00:36:07] This, why is it minus?
[00:36:09] It shouldn't be minus.
[00:36:09] It should be plus.
[00:36:10] So it should be plus the last three letters of the last name of the first player who was
[00:36:16] ever rocked out in survivor history.
[00:36:19] They went to rocks and this person was the first person who got voted out.
[00:36:23] It's the last three letters of his last name.
[00:36:25] This was a stretch.
[00:36:28] It is fine.
[00:36:31] Okay.
[00:36:32] We're going to go to the next one.
[00:36:33] Plus.
[00:36:33] So we're all pluses so far.
[00:36:35] Okay.
[00:36:35] Okay.
[00:36:36] The, the survivor professor who got onto survivor.
[00:36:40] Okay.
[00:36:42] Minus the social media site where we all used to live tweet survivor, but now we're all on
[00:36:47] blue sky.
[00:36:50] That's also a stretch.
[00:36:51] Uh, it was a way to get there.
[00:36:53] Yeah, probably.
[00:36:54] I could have done like Xander's first name or something.
[00:36:56] Just gave it away, but that's fine.
[00:36:57] Plus, uh, blanks tweaks back turned out to be all right.
[00:37:01] After getting medevaced from David versus Goliath.
[00:37:04] Okay.
[00:37:05] Oh, plus the first letter of Guatemala's pancake dancer.
[00:37:10] First name of the first, the first letter of the first name.
[00:37:13] All right.
[00:37:14] So.
[00:37:14] All right.
[00:37:15] You want to do the honors?
[00:37:17] Okay.
[00:37:18] I don't know it.
[00:37:19] All right.
[00:37:20] So Cindy could have given these.
[00:37:23] I wasn't sure if it was a truck or a car, uh, but I didn't think anybody's name starts
[00:37:27] with truck, uh, except for Joel.
[00:37:29] Yeah.
[00:37:29] So, uh, then, uh, Jordan really stretches to get us to the last three letters of Pascal
[00:37:37] English.
[00:37:38] Yeah.
[00:37:38] I could have gone with the last three letters of my last name too.
[00:37:40] And then the survivor one world professor is, uh, Max minus the X from X.com.
[00:37:48] So we have Karishma.
[00:37:50] Karishma.
[00:37:51] Who could have been?
[00:37:52] Edna Ma is right there though.
[00:37:53] I know.
[00:37:54] I've used Edna Ma too many times on these verbal revises.
[00:37:56] And then, uh, Pat, if you have a one syllable last name, yes.
[00:38:00] Past week backs.
[00:38:00] All right.
[00:38:01] Thank you.
[00:38:01] And then also very random.
[00:38:03] We go to Lydia and get for the L of, is that surprising that I went to the Guatemala?
[00:38:10] The pancake.
[00:38:10] Are you doing the pancake?
[00:38:12] Last week I danced to celebrate my victory.
[00:38:14] Now I don't get to dance.
[00:38:15] You get to dance this week.
[00:38:16] Yeah.
[00:38:17] Yeah.
[00:38:17] That should be a, that should be a requirement.
[00:38:19] When you win twist, you have to dance.
[00:38:20] Yeah.
[00:38:20] So who do we have Rob?
[00:38:22] Yes.
[00:38:23] Karishma Patel.
[00:38:25] Karishma Patel.
[00:38:26] Congratulations to Karishma on the birth of her daughter, uh, two weeks ago at this point.
[00:38:30] Erica, as a Ravens fan, did you want to do the Ray Lewis dance to celebrate?
[00:38:34] No, I'll leave that up to Gabe.
[00:38:36] Okay.
[00:38:36] All right.
[00:38:37] Um, but I will tell you, Jordan, you threw me off because I knew what kind of car Cindy got.
[00:38:43] Uh, so, Oh, wow.
[00:38:45] I don't, what kind of car?
[00:38:47] Yeah.
[00:38:47] Yeah.
[00:38:48] Torrent.
[00:38:49] But that's a car.
[00:38:50] That's not a, that's not a truck.
[00:38:51] Right.
[00:38:53] No, it was a torrent.
[00:38:55] I remember, I remember this for some reason.
[00:38:57] I remember stupid things.
[00:38:59] Sorry.
[00:38:59] It was a big part of her story on the, on that season.
[00:39:02] So, uh, Cindy and Mindy, uh, could have been, it could have been a thing on a future,
[00:39:06] uh, uh, uh, blood versus water season.
[00:39:08] We would love to see it at some point.
[00:39:09] All right.
[00:39:11] So.
[00:39:13] Erica, do you have anything you want to promote?
[00:39:15] Tell people to check out.
[00:39:17] Um, you know, I do a lot of volunteer work outside of my work, the Hartford County Humane
[00:39:21] Society.
[00:39:22] It's local to where I, uh, live here in Maryland.
[00:39:27] So check it out.
[00:39:29] There's a lot of adoptable animals there.
[00:39:30] We do a lot of fundraising on that's my extracurricular.
[00:39:35] So shop or no adopt on shop.
[00:39:38] Yeah.
[00:39:38] Yeah.
[00:39:40] I, as someone, as someone who's had many great, uh, rescue dogs, I can, I can co-sign
[00:39:45] that Erica.
[00:39:45] Uh, you could find me a blue sky at, at Jordan Kalish exit Jordan Kalish.
[00:39:51] Uh, that's now part of the verbal rebus for some reason.
[00:39:53] Uh, Instagram.
[00:39:55] Uh, you could go to my viewing parties is all I'm all over the place, Rob.
[00:39:58] Okay.
[00:39:58] All right.
[00:39:59] Speaking of all over the place, I'm about to hit the road again to, uh, go to the hometown
[00:40:04] of the verbal rebus subject, uh, Karishma Patel.
[00:40:09] That is Houston, Texas.
[00:40:11] I'll be back on the road to meet with a bunch of our patrons and everybody else in attendance
[00:40:17] on Wednesday night.
[00:40:18] So if you're coming out to Houston, I will see you there, uh, for everybody else.
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