Purple Pants Podcast: Surprises Served with a Side of Auction

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[00:01:51] Hello, hello and welcome to the Purple Pants Podcast Survivor News Edition.

[00:01:57] I serve as your humble and oh so gracious host, Bryce Isaiah.

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[00:02:34] The Baby Boys are back this week.

[00:02:36] I'm joined by the winner of Ghost Island, Wendell Holland, Netflix Circle Season 2.

[00:02:43] The Baby Boy, Jack Atkins, and myself are here talking all things Survivor Season 47, Episode 8.

[00:02:50] We're getting into the auction.

[00:02:52] I mean, if you want to call it an auction because it's like, whoa, everybody gets something.

[00:02:56] We're talking about these crazy moves being made by Baby Andy and so much more.

[00:03:01] Let's get in to this week's Survivor News.

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[00:03:32] What's going on?

[00:03:33] The Baby Boys are back with your Survivor News covering Survivor Season 47, Episode 8.

[00:03:39] We are back with the man, the myth, the legend, the goat of Winners at War.

[00:03:45] We've got Wendeezy Holland was popping.

[00:03:47] What's good, Perp?

[00:03:48] Good to be back.

[00:03:49] Good to see you, Jack.

[00:03:51] Always good.

[00:03:52] And we've got new hair.

[00:03:54] Who dis?

[00:03:55] The Baby Boy went to super cuts before the episode.

[00:03:58] Came back with a whole new haircut.

[00:04:02] Jack was popping.

[00:04:04] Super cuts.

[00:04:05] Well, we're not going to disrespect my cuts.

[00:04:09] Super cuts.

[00:04:10] Wait, where do you get your hair cut at?

[00:04:13] I get my, with my guy, Richard.

[00:04:15] Oh.

[00:04:16] You know, and I had a nice little salon.

[00:04:18] He gives me a discount because I'm a starving artist.

[00:04:22] And he hooks up.

[00:04:24] What's the discount?

[00:04:25] And is it really a starving artist discount?

[00:04:28] It really is.

[00:04:29] You know, first few times I got there on a referral.

[00:04:36] You know, cut was a little bit expensive.

[00:04:38] Back in my day, I had a little bit of cash on me.

[00:04:40] So it was no worries.

[00:04:42] But now we're a little bit more strapped for cash.

[00:04:46] And I told him, I was like, Rich, I'm trying to come back for a cut.

[00:04:50] But I don't know if I got that $100 on me.

[00:04:55] Oh, God.

[00:04:56] $100?

[00:04:57] He was like, I got you with a 50% discount.

[00:05:01] Oh.

[00:05:04] So 50% discount.

[00:05:06] You know, he's like, I get your hair looking good.

[00:05:08] You're going to book more roles.

[00:05:09] It'll pay off for me in the long run.

[00:05:11] I was like, I need, that's the belief I need from my Richard.

[00:05:14] So maybe I'm just paying $50 just to have someone have faith in me.

[00:05:20] But the thing is, $50, I know it's a little bit much for a cut.

[00:05:25] But I only get my hair cut like once every five months.

[00:05:31] And $100 is fine.

[00:05:34] Yeah, but I don't even got the, I can't even see how I do this.

[00:05:38] Guess we haven't been gambling lately.

[00:05:40] Oh.

[00:05:42] I actually played Monday and I won a little bit, so.

[00:05:45] Oh.

[00:05:46] Thank you, though.

[00:05:47] And I played Sunday and I won a little bit.

[00:05:49] Oh.

[00:05:50] So.

[00:05:51] Did you update the books?

[00:05:53] Oh, the books are updated.

[00:05:59] Now, I don't want to get us in too much trouble because, you know, we got to start the recap promptly.

[00:06:05] But I do want to know, Jack, when you get your hair cut, what do you say when you're getting your hair cut?

[00:06:11] You know, he kind of knows me well now.

[00:06:13] So we kind of do the same sort of thing.

[00:06:17] A lot of times, I like the little, you know, part in the front.

[00:06:20] Like the length in the front.

[00:06:22] I think the thing we debate more is kind of like the back.

[00:06:25] Because sometimes I like a little bit of length there.

[00:06:28] But sometimes, I think this time I kind of just wanted it a little bit cleaner.

[00:06:31] Okay.

[00:06:32] But, you know, he went scissor cut.

[00:06:33] So it's still, it's clean, but it's got some length.

[00:06:36] So it'll grow out pretty quick and just get a little something on it.

[00:06:40] But, you know, back in the day, it used to be like, I'll go with three on the sides.

[00:06:48] But, you know, me and Richard got a special connection.

[00:06:50] So he, you know, I just say what I want and he makes it happen.

[00:06:55] Shout out to you.

[00:06:56] All right.

[00:06:56] Last, last, last question.

[00:06:57] Did you ever get a bowl cut when you were younger from Christine?

[00:07:01] Come on, bro.

[00:07:02] No, no, no, no.

[00:07:05] No, but my parents would take me, you know, Christine would bring me to the barber.

[00:07:10] And it was nothing but, yeah, she said, well, of course.

[00:07:14] I mean, I was like nine.

[00:07:16] It was nothing but buzz cuts for your boy.

[00:07:20] So I think that's now maybe why I like to have my hair generally a little bit longer.

[00:07:27] Because I need to be able to express my hair.

[00:07:31] Yeah, I got to pick up for all the shaved domes.

[00:07:35] Oh, whoa.

[00:07:38] Jackery.

[00:07:39] Jeez.

[00:07:41] What's wrong with the shaved dome?

[00:07:44] Ain't nothing wrong with that in my book.

[00:07:47] I say things that I think are super innocent that somehow there's all in my book.

[00:07:54] I don't know.

[00:07:54] I guess.

[00:07:55] Well, if you're shaving domes or not, no need to worry.

[00:08:00] Because the baby boys will be in Chicago November 20th for the BWP second leg of our Tour 47.

[00:08:07] Seven tickets are available.

[00:08:09] And after Chicago, we are headed to our home state and city of Philadelphia.

[00:08:19] We'll be there November.

[00:08:21] I love it.

[00:08:22] We'll be there November 27th.

[00:08:24] Then we're heading to Boston, Beantown, December 4th.

[00:08:28] From there, Washington, D.C., December 11th.

[00:08:31] And for the ultimate finale in New York City on December 18th, tickets are available.

[00:08:36] So if you haven't pulled up to a BWP Tour 47 yet, take this as your sign that you need to come and pull up with us.

[00:08:44] But we are excited.

[00:08:46] Listen, we're only five minutes in and we get to the recap.

[00:08:48] You should be very happy in the comments.

[00:08:50] We are doing our best.

[00:08:52] What you got for us, Jackery?

[00:08:54] Because I don't know how I feel about this episode.

[00:08:56] And I definitely don't know how I feel about the auction.

[00:08:58] But I'm going to let you pop off.

[00:09:01] Whoa.

[00:09:02] Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[00:09:02] That's aggressive from the jump.

[00:09:07] It's already we're not even six minutes.

[00:09:09] They were already getting to the to the meat and the potatoes.

[00:09:11] But, well, I mean, yeah, the auction was obviously the headline of this episode.

[00:09:18] And, you know, me, I think, you know, us.

[00:09:21] We love we love the survivor auction.

[00:09:26] I mean, shoot, let's just hop right in on that.

[00:09:29] I mean, that was sort of like the overarching, you know, presence in this episode.

[00:09:33] And I think there's a lot to like and also a lot to maybe work on.

[00:09:39] So, Bryce, we might be on the same page here.

[00:09:41] I want to see.

[00:09:42] Okay.

[00:09:43] Give me your straightaway thoughts on it.

[00:09:47] First, before I go in, in, correct me if I'm wrong.

[00:09:51] Has it always been?

[00:09:52] It's more in the more recent seasons because they just recently brought back the auction.

[00:09:57] But it's in the more recent seasons that the person with the most money at the end loses a vote.

[00:10:02] That is correct, right?

[00:10:04] Yeah, that was only only other time was in 45 is that the only time they've done the new era auction.

[00:10:09] Okay.

[00:10:10] So for me, one, it wasn't enough surprises.

[00:10:13] Like I miss the days when somebody would pay $800 for a bowl of rocks.

[00:10:21] Like where is the people paying a lot of money for nothing?

[00:10:26] Like that's what I need.

[00:10:28] I was like when Gabe got water, I was like, okay, I ain't mad at that.

[00:10:32] A little fresh water, like I'll take that.

[00:10:34] And it wasn't enough.

[00:10:36] Where's the nasty stuff?

[00:10:38] I want a bag of Beatles.

[00:10:40] I want, you know, ooh, I think of Austin when, ooh, when Austin was eating the eye.

[00:10:46] Like it's like, give me more of the nasty stuff.

[00:10:49] They had the eye though.

[00:10:50] They did have the eye.

[00:10:51] Just one eye.

[00:10:54] Like I just, I don't know.

[00:10:56] I think they took it easy on them.

[00:10:58] They did, they got like, and there were so many rounds and they got a lot of good stuff.

[00:11:03] But my, Jeff's holding something in his hand.

[00:11:06] He's like, is this the last?

[00:11:09] Do I have anything?

[00:11:10] Oh, I got another one.

[00:11:12] I mean, it's like, spend all the money.

[00:11:14] Like that was just a little annoying for me.

[00:11:16] And it's like, let the people share.

[00:11:18] Like, let them share.

[00:11:20] Let them share.

[00:11:21] And then here's my last thing.

[00:11:22] You know, I love Kyle, but you was eating me before Kyle.

[00:11:28] Okay.

[00:11:28] Cause you caved a little too easily.

[00:11:31] Okay.

[00:11:33] Kyle was like, well, was the chicken corn fed?

[00:11:37] Because if the chicken was corn fed, then that means it is a vegetarian.

[00:11:42] And I'll just eat around the chicken part.

[00:11:48] Maybe there's some corn in there.

[00:11:52] He was like, if it's going to be a cheat day, it might as well be for something like this.

[00:11:57] I feel like you've used that line before.

[00:12:00] Right.

[00:12:01] Kyle.

[00:12:01] Like, I was just like, yeah, it just, it was a little lackluster for me.

[00:12:06] Although, you know, I love bringing things like this, the auction back, but make it more harder.

[00:12:10] Where is the advantage?

[00:12:12] I miss the days when somebody would sit on a money to the end to try to get this advantage.

[00:12:18] Like, I just felt like, I don't know.

[00:12:23] Is Jeffrey in his older age getting softer?

[00:12:29] I think it depends on the day for Jeff.

[00:12:32] I think some days he goes in and some days, like, on this day, it's just like, you know what?

[00:12:38] I got a lot of goodies.

[00:12:40] Yeah, I'll throw those grubs in.

[00:12:42] Oh.

[00:12:44] Bryce, how would you do with the grubs?

[00:12:45] I would have tore them up.

[00:12:48] I wouldn't have even chewed them, Jack.

[00:12:52] That's disturbing.

[00:12:54] Just buzzed them all the way down.

[00:12:58] So if I, if I go find some grubs, Bryce, you'll eat them?

[00:13:03] I would eat one.

[00:13:05] For some pancake.

[00:13:08] Like, it's not, I don't know.

[00:13:10] They had them on the island.

[00:13:13] How did you do?

[00:13:14] I didn't get to that route.

[00:13:16] The fish eye took me out.

[00:13:19] Could you eat something nasty like that, Jack?

[00:13:23] No, I don't think I could.

[00:13:24] Like, even if I gave it a, the thing is, even if I gave it a bad, like, a valid effort,

[00:13:30] I just don't, like, my body, like, I just, I could try and I just wanted, it would come

[00:13:37] back up.

[00:13:37] Like, so, to me, it's kind of like, I'm not even, especially with the live grubs, oh,

[00:13:43] like, when they're, when it's still alive.

[00:13:45] If it was dead, I think I could get through it.

[00:13:48] But, like, when Sue was eating them, I had, like, I was looking away.

[00:13:53] I was like, that was, oh, ugh.

[00:13:56] I was like, for some pancakes?

[00:13:58] I don't know if I'm doing that.

[00:14:00] Were you old enough?

[00:14:02] Are you old enough?

[00:14:03] Do you know the show Fear Factor, Jack?

[00:14:05] Yeah, yeah.

[00:14:06] That used to be the show.

[00:14:08] Like, they used to eat those crazy things.

[00:14:10] They used to lock you up in the cage and put tarantulas around you.

[00:14:13] Like, I just, I'm like, where are we at with the, the freaky dinky?

[00:14:19] And I don't know.

[00:14:20] I, I, I just, uh, but again, it was good to see the auction, but I just felt like there

[00:14:24] were a lot of great stuff.

[00:14:26] There weren't a lot of misses.

[00:14:27] And I just felt like I oftentimes don't like it when Jeff tells us that whoever has the

[00:14:34] most money at the end loses their vote.

[00:14:37] Because I like the fact that old school thinking of Survivor, people used to want to save their

[00:14:41] money to the very, very end because they knew it would be something.

[00:14:44] And so if, like, if you're telling them the person with the most amount of money at the

[00:14:48] end is going to lose their vote, then they're going to spend it.

[00:14:53] Like, I like to see, well, now it's a gamble.

[00:14:56] Now you're holding off thinking, all right, there might be something, but I have to spend

[00:15:02] it at a certain point.

[00:15:03] Yes.

[00:15:03] Now it's more of a risk.

[00:15:05] Well, you're not a gambler.

[00:15:07] Let's talk to the actual gambler.

[00:15:08] Jack, what's the best way to go about managing these pros and cons of the auction?

[00:15:17] Well, so some of your points for us, I agree with, and some of them I don't.

[00:15:21] But the thing that I do agree with is that the most money loses vote is a big problem

[00:15:27] because then it just becomes, oh, I have the most money and I don't want to lose my

[00:15:32] vote.

[00:15:32] I'm just going to bid it.

[00:15:33] Like, I'll bid all my money on a glass of water just to get rid of the money so that I

[00:15:37] don't lose my vote.

[00:15:38] So it kind of takes away the point of the auction that we love seeing of like, oh, someone's

[00:15:44] like really hoping that there's a quesadilla and they're going to wait and then they get

[00:15:48] the quesadilla and they're like, yes, but now everyone just has like random foods.

[00:15:53] I mean, Kyle ends up with someone he doesn't really even want to eat.

[00:15:57] But yeah, and I just think it's kind of goofy.

[00:16:00] Like, just, just.

[00:16:02] I love the auction.

[00:16:04] Don't get me wrong, but I just think them like this whole, it just turns it into like,

[00:16:09] like you guys said, kind of a gamble and it's just, okay.

[00:16:12] Once the five, the first five and, oh, I have the most money.

[00:16:16] I got to get rid of it.

[00:16:18] Put it on just a random item.

[00:16:20] And then the next person does the same thing.

[00:16:21] The next person does the same thing.

[00:16:23] I mean, we would see in the old auction, some people wouldn't even bid on stuff because

[00:16:27] they got to keep the $500 if they didn't spend it.

[00:16:30] And they're like, oh, that's not worth it.

[00:16:31] I'm just going to take the 500 home.

[00:16:34] Which is kind of funny.

[00:16:35] The thing that I don't agree with you about Bryce is.

[00:16:40] I think what kind of broke the auction in the past, why they got rid of it is having that

[00:16:44] advantage at the end.

[00:16:45] Everyone waits for it.

[00:16:47] It kind of ruins the auction.

[00:16:48] The thing that I love that they did was put the, put the advantage in the fries.

[00:16:54] Um, and you know, you still get a little advantage and it makes it fun, but it's snuck

[00:16:59] into one of the food items.

[00:17:00] So it's a nice little twist, but nobody has any incentive to, to wait around and, um, just

[00:17:06] wait till the very end.

[00:17:07] Everyone can go get some food and there's a chance you might have something in your food.

[00:17:12] Um, but there's not, that's not really a factor in like what you're bidding on, but

[00:17:16] it makes things kind of exciting when someone does find one, especially, you know, a little

[00:17:19] rolled up paper in the fries.

[00:17:21] I thought it was kind of a little thing.

[00:17:23] So my, my biggest pro was that.

[00:17:26] And my biggest con was the, you know, most, most money loses the road that survivors we've

[00:17:32] talked about.

[00:17:32] They're obsessed with making people lose their votes.

[00:17:36] It just, I don't really think it's doing it for people that much.

[00:17:40] I thought it was, uh, interesting one, the little piece of paper and Rachel's fry.

[00:17:47] I got scared because if I'm out there and I get that, I might F around and eat it.

[00:17:53] Not knowing because who you don't take, how many fries do you take at once?

[00:17:57] If you're at dinner and a bowl of fries come out, do you just take one fry or do you

[00:18:01] take a handful?

[00:18:04] On the Island?

[00:18:04] I might take one at a time.

[00:18:06] And those were those Husky fries too.

[00:18:09] I might savor every bite of every fry or maybe two at a time.

[00:18:13] I usually go like maybe two, three, you know, put them together, dip them in.

[00:18:18] Right.

[00:18:19] And then you hold it up.

[00:18:20] But I think I would see the paper, but I know what you mean.

[00:18:23] You can't do it.

[00:18:24] It's.

[00:18:25] Wow.

[00:18:27] You're on Fiji.

[00:18:28] The fries might've been cold.

[00:18:30] Cool.

[00:18:30] Like.

[00:18:32] I also miss the days where someone has so much money.

[00:18:36] Like here's another con that I feel about in the today's auction.

[00:18:41] When people are trying to burn their money.

[00:18:44] I miss the days when someone would have like.

[00:18:47] A thousand dollars.

[00:18:49] And they would bid on something for like $50.

[00:18:52] Right.

[00:18:52] Like there used to actually be some auction back and forth.

[00:18:58] And we don't really see that people has just been $800.

[00:19:02] And it's like, Oh, I don't, I don't love that.

[00:19:04] I agree.

[00:19:05] The whole, the whole,

[00:19:06] that's the thing is like them being the whole lose your vote thing.

[00:19:10] Kind of loses the spirit of the auction.

[00:19:12] Like people are now incentivized to just bid all the money they have.

[00:19:16] Obviously everyone now,

[00:19:17] it used to be everyone has $500.

[00:19:19] Now everyone has different amounts.

[00:19:20] So there's not even really a competition.

[00:19:22] Cause you know, the highest,

[00:19:24] the one with the most money is going to win the bid.

[00:19:26] Um, and yeah, it was,

[00:19:28] it used to be fun to see people be like, Oh, 20.

[00:19:31] Right.

[00:19:31] 40.

[00:19:32] Uh, that was fun.

[00:19:34] And now it's just like literally the second,

[00:19:36] it's like all my money.

[00:19:38] Like four people are saying that.

[00:19:40] And it's like, Oh, teeny has the most.

[00:19:41] You get the Mac and cheese.

[00:19:43] That's it's not, it's kind of loses the spirit of it.

[00:19:46] And, but to counter your point of like,

[00:19:48] you don't like the,

[00:19:49] them having the advantage.

[00:19:50] I liked the advantage at the end for specific reasons like that,

[00:19:54] where someone would get a cheeseburger or fries for $40 because even though

[00:19:58] people had the money,

[00:20:00] they were holding onto it.

[00:20:01] So I,

[00:20:01] I don't know.

[00:20:02] I miss somewhat of the nostalgia of it all.

[00:20:06] However,

[00:20:07] tell me what you thought about like when Gabe got his thing and then he got

[00:20:11] $60,

[00:20:12] they gave them $60.

[00:20:14] I thought that was kind of weird.

[00:20:16] That was a curve ball.

[00:20:18] I think it was maybe to just make sure that if there were,

[00:20:23] my guess is to,

[00:20:24] to make sure if those,

[00:20:25] if there did end up being 15 items that you don't get through like 11 items

[00:20:30] and now everybody's paid all their money.

[00:20:33] I think it's to give money back to make sure that someone would have money at

[00:20:36] the end to lose their vote is,

[00:20:38] is what I would guess.

[00:20:41] I did love,

[00:20:43] you know,

[00:20:43] me,

[00:20:43] I love everything baby Andy does.

[00:20:46] I love.

[00:20:47] And when they announced that it's the idol or not the idol,

[00:20:50] the auction,

[00:20:50] everyone has to run around and get the money.

[00:20:52] Like baby Andy,

[00:20:54] he just not having no luck.

[00:20:57] And I'm cracking up where people are like,

[00:20:59] did you find anything?

[00:20:59] And he's like,

[00:21:00] no.

[00:21:00] And then they just reach right in front of his face and grab money.

[00:21:04] Like Andy,

[00:21:04] what are you doing?

[00:21:06] He'd be getting in his head,

[00:21:08] man.

[00:21:09] Yeah.

[00:21:11] I think that's what I thought.

[00:21:13] I think like he'd be like getting too psyched out a little bit or

[00:21:17] something in the moment.

[00:21:21] Yeah.

[00:21:21] Interesting.

[00:21:22] Interesting.

[00:21:23] Interesting.

[00:21:23] But we love baby Andy.

[00:21:25] The auction is great to see back now.

[00:21:27] If we could just get the loved ones visit back,

[00:21:29] that would be,

[00:21:30] I don't want no letters fly.

[00:21:32] I'm out.

[00:21:33] Sequester them.

[00:21:34] Did you guys like the,

[00:21:37] did you guys like the method of like going and finding the tubes to get money?

[00:21:41] Or what do we think about that?

[00:21:43] You know,

[00:21:44] for me,

[00:21:44] it always takes me back to Kageon when they were going on the mad idol hunt,

[00:21:50] when there was like an idol round.

[00:21:51] And I think from Kageon,

[00:21:53] they're like,

[00:21:54] we love to just see everyone running around and getting the stuff.

[00:21:56] And so from that,

[00:21:57] I feel like things like this were birthed.

[00:21:59] So no,

[00:21:59] I loved it.

[00:22:00] I thought that it was great.

[00:22:02] It's fun to just see them all interact and just,

[00:22:04] you know,

[00:22:04] moving around the island and shaking because it's definitely better than fire

[00:22:09] tokens.

[00:22:09] Let's just say that.

[00:22:12] Well,

[00:22:12] I'd like to thank Kageon for birthing that idea.

[00:22:16] I thought it was a fun concept.

[00:22:17] And it's also like,

[00:22:18] look,

[00:22:18] if you're on your grind,

[00:22:20] you're going to get rewarded.

[00:22:21] And if you're not,

[00:22:22] then you're not.

[00:22:23] So.

[00:22:23] Yeah.

[00:22:24] I'm,

[00:22:25] I'm generally a little tired of like the,

[00:22:27] the,

[00:22:29] you know,

[00:22:30] the scavenger hunt type of thing,

[00:22:32] but honestly,

[00:22:33] of all the times they've done it,

[00:22:35] I kind of like it for this.

[00:22:36] Cause it's just,

[00:22:37] it's like an Easter egg hunt.

[00:22:38] And I was just running around.

[00:22:39] It only takes about,

[00:22:41] you know,

[00:22:41] five,

[00:22:42] four or five minutes of screen time.

[00:22:43] And we had like fun moments like Andy,

[00:22:46] not finding anything coming out of it.

[00:22:48] Um,

[00:22:49] and it's,

[00:22:49] yeah,

[00:22:50] I didn't mind.

[00:22:51] I don't love the scavenger hunt when it comes to like an idol,

[00:22:54] but I,

[00:22:54] with this,

[00:22:55] when I was just scrambling,

[00:22:56] I think it's a,

[00:22:57] it's a good time.

[00:22:58] So.

[00:22:59] We brought up your mom earlier in the episode,

[00:23:01] Jack,

[00:23:02] but curious to think,

[00:23:04] I know,

[00:23:04] uh,

[00:23:05] back when you lived in Connecticut,

[00:23:06] I know that property over there is really big.

[00:23:09] Did your mom used to do Easter egg hunts with you?

[00:23:13] Yeah.

[00:23:13] So Easter is actually my mom's favorite holiday.

[00:23:16] So,

[00:23:16] you know,

[00:23:17] we go all out for Easter.

[00:23:20] So.

[00:23:20] It might still be swags hidden.

[00:23:24] So wait,

[00:23:24] walk me through this.

[00:23:25] You would have a basket and you would.

[00:23:28] Yeah.

[00:23:29] Make my way around the crib.

[00:23:31] Um,

[00:23:32] with a buzz cut.

[00:23:33] I was only a child.

[00:23:34] So it was kind of a solo activity.

[00:23:37] Um,

[00:23:39] but I remember running around.

[00:23:41] Uh,

[00:23:42] I'd be moving.

[00:23:44] A brisk walk.

[00:23:45] Um,

[00:23:46] but yeah,

[00:23:46] and then,

[00:23:47] you know,

[00:23:47] there'd be like just candy,

[00:23:49] maybe a couple of quarters in there.

[00:23:51] Um,

[00:23:52] yeah.

[00:23:52] So just stacking my quarters.

[00:23:54] I remember there was a few times.

[00:23:56] I remember where it would be like,

[00:23:59] you know,

[00:23:59] you know,

[00:24:00] Easter's usually like end of March or beginning of April.

[00:24:03] It would be like the next November.

[00:24:06] I'd find like an egg that was.

[00:24:09] Where did this come from?

[00:24:12] I never understood people that actually like hide the boiled eggs.

[00:24:18] Do people do that?

[00:24:20] Uh,

[00:24:21] I went to my cousin's house.

[00:24:24] I want to say maybe three years ago.

[00:24:26] And the kids were getting boiled eggs.

[00:24:28] And I was like,

[00:24:29] Tanisha,

[00:24:30] like,

[00:24:31] if they don't find that egg,

[00:24:33] and you sitting on the couch four months later,

[00:24:36] like,

[00:24:36] I think it's supposed to be the plastic ones.

[00:24:39] Yeah,

[00:24:40] I think so.

[00:24:41] But,

[00:24:42] uh,

[00:24:43] maybe some people just like boiled eggs.

[00:24:45] I don't know.

[00:24:46] Yeah,

[00:24:47] I,

[00:24:47] that would be,

[00:24:48] that would be a rude surprise.

[00:24:50] I get open looking for candy or money or something.

[00:24:52] And you just get a boiled egg.

[00:24:56] Uh,

[00:24:56] yeah,

[00:24:57] but no,

[00:24:58] my mom loves Easter and we're Greek too.

[00:25:01] So there's like,

[00:25:01] uh,

[00:25:02] the big thing.

[00:25:03] So,

[00:25:04] um,

[00:25:05] yeah.

[00:25:05] Is that where the mustache comes from?

[00:25:07] Jack?

[00:25:07] I can,

[00:25:07] I can see it a little bit.

[00:25:11] Uh,

[00:25:13] mustache is a strong term,

[00:25:14] but

[00:25:16] but I'm only a quarter Greek,

[00:25:18] but my mom's mom was totally Greek.

[00:25:21] So it kind of,

[00:25:22] you know,

[00:25:24] but,

[00:25:24] but anyways,

[00:25:25] my last question about the auction,

[00:25:27] speaking of food,

[00:25:30] we,

[00:25:30] we did this in 45.

[00:25:31] I remember it.

[00:25:32] It was a lot of fun.

[00:25:33] I'm just curious if you guys were out there,

[00:25:36] what you would have wanted to,

[00:25:38] to win.

[00:25:39] Um,

[00:25:39] and I have the list here and I can run through it real quick.

[00:25:42] And then you guys could just let me know what stands out.

[00:25:44] We,

[00:25:45] we,

[00:25:45] we,

[00:25:48] so also it was weird to me.

[00:25:51] The first item was chips and soda.

[00:25:54] And Jeff was just like,

[00:25:55] first $60 wins it.

[00:25:58] That's not how auctions were.

[00:26:01] Like,

[00:26:02] Selling it.

[00:26:03] Right.

[00:26:05] Everyone's,

[00:26:05] there's like a total of probably $5,000 amongst this group.

[00:26:09] And you're like,

[00:26:10] ah,

[00:26:10] whoever,

[00:26:11] whoever wants it.

[00:26:13] He just wanted to get things started.

[00:26:15] So let's,

[00:26:16] yeah.

[00:26:17] Um,

[00:26:18] wait,

[00:26:18] right.

[00:26:20] That is true.

[00:26:23] I,

[00:26:23] I don't need the list Jack.

[00:26:24] Uh,

[00:26:24] cause I know what I will want and what I will put my money on.

[00:26:27] What?

[00:26:29] The margarita and the salsa and the chips.

[00:26:32] Period.

[00:26:34] Okay.

[00:26:34] Interesting.

[00:26:35] Here's the,

[00:26:35] here's an interesting thing though.

[00:26:37] Um,

[00:26:38] apparently I think the last four people to win a margarita at the auction

[00:26:43] have been voted out that same episode.

[00:26:47] Sierra Kelly,

[00:26:50] I think Jen Brown and worlds apart.

[00:26:52] And then I forget who before that,

[00:26:56] but I saw like someone say that the curse of the margarita.

[00:27:00] Margarita curse.

[00:27:01] You still want that?

[00:27:02] Margarita Bryce?

[00:27:03] Ah,

[00:27:04] I'll take it with the lime and the coconut.

[00:27:08] Give me the burger and the fries with the advantage.

[00:27:11] Price.

[00:27:13] Uh,

[00:27:14] yeah,

[00:27:14] if we're talking advantage,

[00:27:16] I definitely,

[00:27:17] definitely,

[00:27:18] definitely.

[00:27:18] I think burger fried.

[00:27:19] Ooh.

[00:27:19] And there was a beer too.

[00:27:21] I mean,

[00:27:21] that's,

[00:27:22] that's,

[00:27:23] you know,

[00:27:23] that's fire.

[00:27:25] You know,

[00:27:26] I ended up also,

[00:27:28] I love chicken wings.

[00:27:30] So,

[00:27:30] you know,

[00:27:32] uh,

[00:27:32] if Kyle doesn't want the chicken wings,

[00:27:34] it looked like a pretty big,

[00:27:35] I think there was some ramp on there too.

[00:27:37] Although,

[00:27:38] you know,

[00:27:39] I wonder how long that ranch was sitting out,

[00:27:40] but I don't know.

[00:27:42] You know,

[00:27:43] they give it to you in good shape.

[00:27:44] If it's hot,

[00:27:45] they don't give it to you.

[00:27:46] It was cold.

[00:27:47] They,

[00:27:47] they give it to you in good shape.

[00:27:49] Uh,

[00:27:49] sometimes they see those survivor pizzas.

[00:27:51] Yeah.

[00:27:56] But you get some good wings.

[00:27:58] You eat it with the hands,

[00:27:59] some Buffalo sauce on their hands.

[00:28:01] Maybe that night before you go to bed,

[00:28:02] you just get a little.

[00:28:06] nasty.

[00:28:09] Not good.

[00:28:09] If you've aqua dumped earlier in the day,

[00:28:11] you like,

[00:28:12] Oh,

[00:28:13] that's not barbecue sauce.

[00:28:15] Uh,

[00:28:16] you can miss me though with the sweets though.

[00:28:19] Like that charcuterie board of sweets.

[00:28:21] Like I'll pass.

[00:28:23] I'll take it.

[00:28:24] I'll take them cookies and brownies and stuff.

[00:28:27] I'll take that big old cake.

[00:28:28] That's all got.

[00:28:30] Give me all the sweets.

[00:28:32] Yeah.

[00:28:32] The apple pie that Saul got though.

[00:28:34] That was like barely a pie though.

[00:28:36] That was maybe more like a tart.

[00:28:38] I'll take.

[00:28:39] Sign me up.

[00:28:42] Um,

[00:28:43] last night we were watching at,

[00:28:46] um,

[00:28:47] what's the place called in Phoenixville,

[00:28:49] Bryce?

[00:28:50] Three,

[00:28:51] 12,

[00:28:52] 12,

[00:28:53] something,

[00:28:53] 12,

[00:28:54] 12,

[00:28:55] 12,

[00:28:55] 78.

[00:28:56] Something like that.

[00:28:57] Like 12,

[00:28:58] 78 in Phoenixville.

[00:28:59] That's where Sierra usually has her watch parties.

[00:29:02] 12,

[00:29:02] 78 brewing.

[00:29:03] Shout out to them.

[00:29:04] A great brewery out there.

[00:29:06] And Phoenixville PA has like lots of breweries.

[00:29:09] First of all.

[00:29:10] And,

[00:29:10] um,

[00:29:12] where was I go?

[00:29:13] Oh,

[00:29:14] they handed out bingo cards.

[00:29:16] Oh yeah.

[00:29:17] Everybody in there,

[00:29:18] survivor bingo.

[00:29:20] And your boy won survivor bingo.

[00:29:22] So let's go.

[00:29:24] Yeah.

[00:29:24] What would you win?

[00:29:26] I was able to spin the wheel of fortune wheel and it had all kinds of stuff on it.

[00:29:31] One of the,

[00:29:31] uh,

[00:29:32] little triangles said candy.

[00:29:35] I won candy and they had a,

[00:29:37] like a,

[00:29:38] a basket of like big size candies that you could pick from.

[00:29:41] I know you love candy too.

[00:29:43] So that's a,

[00:29:43] that's a good one.

[00:29:44] It was a good one.

[00:29:45] I got the Reese's feces.

[00:29:48] He was like,

[00:29:49] bingo.

[00:29:50] Nobody was even paying attention.

[00:29:53] They were,

[00:29:54] I would try to get to this bingo.

[00:29:55] They weren't hype at all.

[00:29:56] They were like,

[00:29:57] and then I had to say again,

[00:29:58] like,

[00:29:58] where do I bring this?

[00:29:59] Like,

[00:29:59] what's up?

[00:30:00] I got bingo.

[00:30:01] That's like in ghost Island.

[00:30:03] When you want to challenge,

[00:30:05] you're like,

[00:30:06] I'm done.

[00:30:07] Now I got a knee.

[00:30:09] I have to like overly.

[00:30:11] Yeah.

[00:30:12] My,

[00:30:12] my victories.

[00:30:13] Wendell,

[00:30:14] you were the only one playing.

[00:30:15] So don't worry.

[00:30:16] I think I was.

[00:30:17] I looked at Bryce and Bryce didn't have nothing.

[00:30:20] I was.

[00:30:21] My,

[00:30:23] my last question about the auction is,

[00:30:25] um,

[00:30:27] I feel like they should have let some Kyle,

[00:30:30] like someone buy those off of Kyle.

[00:30:32] I like,

[00:30:33] maybe Kyle still loses his money,

[00:30:35] but like,

[00:30:36] I mean,

[00:30:37] even before the item was uncovered,

[00:30:38] Sam was like,

[00:30:39] Hey,

[00:30:39] like on the,

[00:30:40] can I,

[00:30:41] can I put up my 300 on the chance that it's me?

[00:30:44] Like,

[00:30:44] like Jeff,

[00:30:45] they're still spending their money,

[00:30:46] you know,

[00:30:46] like just let,

[00:30:48] like to me,

[00:30:49] it then puts Kyle in this uncomfortable situation where he,

[00:30:51] he probably was thinking,

[00:30:53] well,

[00:30:53] I'm a vegetarian.

[00:30:55] Cause I don't want to like consume it.

[00:30:56] Like I don't want to hurt animals or whatever.

[00:30:59] But if this,

[00:30:59] if I'm the only one who can eat this,

[00:31:02] then it's going to go to waste if I don't eat it.

[00:31:04] So it's the same as eating it.

[00:31:07] And then now Kyle's in this weird spot where he like feels like he has to

[00:31:09] eat it,

[00:31:11] which is a little bit,

[00:31:12] just like a little bit uncomfortable to watch.

[00:31:14] I mean,

[00:31:14] I'm obviously not a vegetarian,

[00:31:16] so I'm,

[00:31:17] I'd be out there scarfing down the chicken wings,

[00:31:18] but I want,

[00:31:20] you know,

[00:31:20] I want Kyle to be able to stand on his,

[00:31:22] not feel any pressure to,

[00:31:23] to break his morals.

[00:31:25] And it felt like Jeff kind of pushed it in that direction.

[00:31:29] I'm sure it wasn't on purpose,

[00:31:30] but it's like,

[00:31:30] that's kind of what's going to happen.

[00:31:32] So the game is survivor and it's meant to put people in weird,

[00:31:37] precarious,

[00:31:37] awkward decisions.

[00:31:39] Decision making positions.

[00:31:40] So of course they're going to be like,

[00:31:43] well,

[00:31:44] you have a decision.

[00:31:46] Am I making this up?

[00:31:47] But I remember in some survivor auctions where someone would like,

[00:31:53] I will be like,

[00:31:54] Jack,

[00:31:54] I'll give you $80 for that last bite of your burger.

[00:31:56] Like,

[00:31:57] didn't they used to kind of like auction amongst themselves?

[00:32:00] Or am I making that up?

[00:32:01] I don't think,

[00:32:02] I don't think a lot.

[00:32:03] Like,

[00:32:03] I don't think they were really supposed to share or whatever,

[00:32:06] but I do remember,

[00:32:07] I think like in Micronesia,

[00:32:09] um,

[00:32:10] I remember Eric being like $20 to lick the chocolate off your hand,

[00:32:13] like to Sari or something.

[00:32:14] And she was like,

[00:32:15] and then she,

[00:32:16] she's like,

[00:32:17] there's something wrong with you,

[00:32:18] boy.

[00:32:20] Um,

[00:32:21] so there are fun little moments like that,

[00:32:23] but,

[00:32:23] um,

[00:32:24] and there's been definitely a couple of times where I think they've like,

[00:32:27] pooled their money a little bit to like help someone win something.

[00:32:30] But I don't know the auction rules are always a little bit all over the

[00:32:33] place,

[00:32:33] but I think we all agree.

[00:32:35] They got to get rid of this.

[00:32:36] Most money loses the vote.

[00:32:38] It's just a weird little,

[00:32:40] um,

[00:32:41] a weird little stipulation that kind of messes up the whole auction.

[00:32:45] Right.

[00:32:46] Or flip it around.

[00:32:47] Whoever has the least amount of money loses their vote.

[00:32:51] Yeah.

[00:32:52] Well,

[00:32:53] yeah.

[00:32:54] Um,

[00:32:55] no,

[00:32:56] yes,

[00:32:57] no,

[00:32:58] yes.

[00:32:59] All right.

[00:32:59] So no one's going to buy anything.

[00:33:01] They just,

[00:33:03] what did you say?

[00:33:04] It's a gamble.

[00:33:06] Well,

[00:33:06] Andy would also just be screwed.

[00:33:10] Well,

[00:33:11] that entices you to look harder.

[00:33:13] Oh,

[00:33:15] yeah.

[00:33:16] Andy wasn't going if he looked harder,

[00:33:18] man.

[00:33:19] Andy was in his head.

[00:33:21] Let's get to this.

[00:33:23] It's kind of like when you're,

[00:33:25] I felt like Andy's problem was kind of like when you're doing like a crossword or

[00:33:28] something or like a,

[00:33:30] a word search and you're just looking at all the letters and you're not like,

[00:33:34] you're just letting them all hit you in the face.

[00:33:37] You're like,

[00:33:37] there's like a thousand letters.

[00:33:39] Like it,

[00:33:39] you gotta go look at like a little corner and be like,

[00:33:42] Oh,

[00:33:44] quesadilla.

[00:33:47] Yeah.

[00:33:48] But I mean,

[00:33:49] let's,

[00:33:50] let's talk about Andy.

[00:33:52] I mean,

[00:33:52] I feel like,

[00:33:54] and I feel like what I'm about to say sounds like not great,

[00:33:58] but I mean it in like a,

[00:33:59] like Andy is kind of playing just like a little rat.

[00:34:03] Like he's just scurrying around.

[00:34:05] Like people aren't paying him any attention and he's willing to just like get

[00:34:09] dirty.

[00:34:10] And it's,

[00:34:10] it's like a sort of a,

[00:34:11] like a archetype that we haven't seen a lot recently.

[00:34:15] And I kind of love it.

[00:34:16] Like Andy is just so scrappy and just really being like,

[00:34:20] he's,

[00:34:21] he's so sympathetic because he's struggling so much,

[00:34:24] but he's also like very diabolical and like willing to just stab people in

[00:34:29] the back.

[00:34:29] And it's just such an interesting like juxtaposition that I I'm here for,

[00:34:35] uh,

[00:34:36] for rat Andy.

[00:34:38] I love it because there are,

[00:34:39] it's like,

[00:34:40] there's a lot of sides to him.

[00:34:41] Like sometimes he'll sit down and just be so sharp with his takes and ready to

[00:34:46] go.

[00:34:47] Sometimes he's like a sweet Andy.

[00:34:49] Sometimes he's like,

[00:34:49] he's,

[00:34:50] he's quirky.

[00:34:51] Sometimes he's like,

[00:34:53] you know,

[00:34:53] the,

[00:34:54] the,

[00:34:54] the diarrhea of the mouth.

[00:34:55] Sometimes he's diabolical Andy.

[00:34:57] I love how there's,

[00:34:59] you just never know what you're going to get with them.

[00:35:01] But I love that about the new editing and survivor,

[00:35:05] right?

[00:35:05] Where it's like,

[00:35:06] I feel like that can be the story with anyone,

[00:35:08] right?

[00:35:09] Um,

[00:35:10] he's multifaceted.

[00:35:11] There's multi dimensions of him.

[00:35:13] And if they wanted to,

[00:35:14] they could have just edited him in one way.

[00:35:17] But I love the fact that we get to see Andy and all of these dimensions.

[00:35:20] Cause that's really everyone.

[00:35:21] Some days we happy other days.

[00:35:23] We were not so happy,

[00:35:25] but I like that comparison to a rat because.

[00:35:30] Rats be right in and rats are big and they're scary and they're agile and they multiply quickly.

[00:35:37] And you could get a rat infestation and shut your whole world business and life down.

[00:35:45] And is that what Andy is over here in the Island?

[00:35:48] I don't know.

[00:35:49] From experience.

[00:35:51] I've never had a rat in my home.

[00:35:53] Have you?

[00:35:54] I don't know.

[00:35:56] Have you ever had a rat in your home,

[00:35:57] Jack?

[00:35:59] Not in the home,

[00:36:00] but we had a little outside.

[00:36:03] In the frat house?

[00:36:05] No,

[00:36:05] here actually.

[00:36:07] Really?

[00:36:08] So our neighbor is like kind of a hoarder and just like accumulates a lot of garbage.

[00:36:15] And so when we took the bins out to the street for like,

[00:36:19] he just took a bunch of trash bags and just put them where the bins go on the side of the house

[00:36:25] and just like left them there for a week.

[00:36:28] And then like when I took the trash bag and I filled them all up as much as I could,

[00:36:31] but there was still some on the ground.

[00:36:34] We come back the next week to wheel the bins out to the street.

[00:36:40] And I get hand on a bin.

[00:36:45] Ten rats like come out of the bags on the ground.

[00:36:49] One of them like jumps over my roommate's foot because he's in sandals.

[00:36:53] And we all just like run away.

[00:36:58] It's like midnight.

[00:37:00] And then we go back to like,

[00:37:03] or we're like,

[00:37:03] okay,

[00:37:03] they probably all ran out.

[00:37:05] We go back,

[00:37:06] like grab the bin.

[00:37:07] One more runs out.

[00:37:09] Another one runs out.

[00:37:11] And then,

[00:37:11] so we grabbed like a brew and we're just like hitting everything.

[00:37:14] Cause at this point we're also like,

[00:37:16] we need to get rid of these bags.

[00:37:17] They're just going to get worse,

[00:37:18] you know?

[00:37:19] So,

[00:37:20] Oh,

[00:37:20] it was,

[00:37:21] it was disgusting.

[00:37:23] So yeah,

[00:37:23] that was a,

[00:37:24] a rat problem that we had.

[00:37:26] That's nice.

[00:37:28] But,

[00:37:29] like the rat thing,

[00:37:30] it kind of reminds me too of,

[00:37:31] you know,

[00:37:32] in like the mafia,

[00:37:34] like they're,

[00:37:34] they're like,

[00:37:35] Oh,

[00:37:35] we got a rat,

[00:37:36] you know?

[00:37:36] Like,

[00:37:38] and it's sort of like Andy is this young guy in,

[00:37:42] in the gata mafia run by like Sam and Sierra.

[00:37:46] And he feels,

[00:37:47] it's kind of like a classic,

[00:37:48] like mafia tale where he feels underappreciated.

[00:37:51] He's like,

[00:37:52] I'm going to go,

[00:37:53] like,

[00:37:53] if they're not appreciating me,

[00:37:54] I'm going to go to the,

[00:37:55] to the ops with some information.

[00:37:58] And,

[00:37:58] and you're like,

[00:37:59] Andy,

[00:38:00] how could you betray them?

[00:38:01] But you're also like,

[00:38:02] but they weren't giving Andy the respect he deserves.

[00:38:04] Like,

[00:38:05] it's kind of like a great,

[00:38:07] like narrative tale.

[00:38:08] So,

[00:38:09] uh,

[00:38:09] it's just a crazy rule.

[00:38:11] I feel like there's so many weird dimensions to Andy's game.

[00:38:14] And like,

[00:38:15] they don't always make sense.

[00:38:16] Some of them are like really good.

[00:38:18] Some of them are really like,

[00:38:19] he's struggling.

[00:38:21] And it's just a weird concoction.

[00:38:22] It's like,

[00:38:23] we never really see.

[00:38:23] And I really enjoy it.

[00:38:24] Like Wendell says,

[00:38:25] like you don't any given day,

[00:38:26] like you don't,

[00:38:27] Andy can come into confessor and be like,

[00:38:29] I love everybody.

[00:38:30] Like,

[00:38:30] I feel so welcome.

[00:38:31] I'm having the best time.

[00:38:33] Or he could come and be like,

[00:38:34] I'm going to end everyone's game.

[00:38:35] Like I'm going to stop on the back.

[00:38:38] What,

[00:38:39] what's his spine?

[00:38:40] Anyone know?

[00:38:42] I feel like,

[00:38:43] I feel like we need Kendra to go,

[00:38:45] like have a conversation with Andy and tell him like his astrology or

[00:38:50] something.

[00:38:51] Cause I feel like he's gotta be something.

[00:38:53] I mean,

[00:38:54] I don't know anything about astrology,

[00:38:55] but he's gotta be one of these signs that are like,

[00:38:58] that got a lot going on.

[00:39:01] I'd say a water sign,

[00:39:04] but speaking about Sierra and Sam and that relationship with Andy,

[00:39:08] where you're like,

[00:39:09] they're not giving him enough.

[00:39:11] Is that not a flaw in their own game?

[00:39:14] Like they under,

[00:39:16] they have,

[00:39:16] they undermined him too much thinking that,

[00:39:20] Oh,

[00:39:20] he'll stay in this place and we can just drag him along.

[00:39:23] Like thoughts.

[00:39:25] They got super comfortable with him.

[00:39:27] They're just like,

[00:39:28] all right,

[00:39:28] this is our little brother.

[00:39:29] We protected him early or something.

[00:39:32] And now he'll do anything with us.

[00:39:35] When we all know,

[00:39:37] like when,

[00:39:39] when you have someone that's at the bottom of an alliance,

[00:39:42] they're in a striking position.

[00:39:45] And Andy was waiting on it.

[00:39:47] And Andy was waiting to prove himself.

[00:39:50] And,

[00:39:51] you know,

[00:39:51] he just loved it because,

[00:39:52] you know,

[00:39:52] that Annika blonde side,

[00:39:54] you know,

[00:39:54] he was like,

[00:39:55] I love did jet.

[00:39:56] Like,

[00:39:56] you know,

[00:39:57] I can't wait to see him next week because he's going to be talking so much

[00:40:00] ish.

[00:40:01] And I know we're all over the place,

[00:40:02] but I,

[00:40:04] um,

[00:40:04] this move from Andy scared me in the sense that I feel like Andy has now

[00:40:12] illuminated himself as the rat master.

[00:40:16] And now everyone's like,

[00:40:18] well,

[00:40:18] we know where all the rats are listening to.

[00:40:20] And I feel like it might put too much of a huge target on Andy.

[00:40:24] And I worry for Andy that if the heat gets to him,

[00:40:29] I'm worried how he might react.

[00:40:31] I feel like we know the type of player Andy is.

[00:40:33] And so sometimes when he's in that pressure cooker,

[00:40:35] I'm scared.

[00:40:36] He might do something.

[00:40:38] Not rat like,

[00:40:40] and kind of be like a mouse.

[00:40:42] I don't know,

[00:40:43] but I'm nervous for Andy because like,

[00:40:44] after this move,

[00:40:46] it definitely like he's on people.

[00:40:48] I mean,

[00:40:49] he's been on my radar,

[00:40:50] but he's going to be on people's radars now.

[00:40:54] And also if we remember back to the day one,

[00:40:57] it's like he,

[00:40:58] he like read it on himself or something.

[00:41:01] Like he spilled all the beans right now.

[00:41:05] I don't know.

[00:41:06] He's a,

[00:41:06] he is a great character for this show.

[00:41:09] Whoever found Andy kudos.

[00:41:12] I love watching them.

[00:41:14] Yeah.

[00:41:14] It's like you put Andy in a corner and,

[00:41:16] and you don't know what's going to happen,

[00:41:18] but it's,

[00:41:19] it's,

[00:41:19] it's,

[00:41:19] something's going to happen.

[00:41:22] You can't put Andy in a corner.

[00:41:26] We got this immunity challenge,

[00:41:28] right?

[00:41:28] We can talk about the challenge in a second,

[00:41:30] but what I want to know is for someone like a Kyle,

[00:41:33] right?

[00:41:33] He don't eat meat,

[00:41:35] but he's strong.

[00:41:36] Is there ever a point?

[00:41:39] Cause this makes me think of like Tasha from survivor.

[00:41:42] Kageyan.

[00:41:42] Cause you know,

[00:41:42] I stand Kageyan.

[00:41:44] Uh,

[00:41:44] she went on this immunity run.

[00:41:46] Like,

[00:41:46] is there ever a point where you look at someone like a Kyle and you're like,

[00:41:50] maybe I don't actively win this.

[00:41:53] Right.

[00:41:53] Because this is your third one in a row.

[00:41:55] I said this last week,

[00:41:56] the second he doesn't win,

[00:41:56] he's going home.

[00:41:57] But is,

[00:41:59] I feel like when you win three in a row and you don't win the next one,

[00:42:06] you've got to go.

[00:42:08] Yeah.

[00:42:08] But after winning two in a row,

[00:42:10] it's high alert for him.

[00:42:11] So like,

[00:42:12] bro,

[00:42:12] you better win this next one.

[00:42:14] If you ask me,

[00:42:15] I don't think you're,

[00:42:17] I don't think you're,

[00:42:18] it's like,

[00:42:19] he is on high alert already.

[00:42:21] We know he's going to win everything.

[00:42:22] He could have been up there and turned to Andy and be like,

[00:42:26] Andy,

[00:42:28] I let you have this one.

[00:42:30] Like,

[00:42:30] I don't know something like,

[00:42:32] you might want to get on the rat masters.

[00:42:34] Good side.

[00:42:35] But I just feel like at this point,

[00:42:36] it's like Kyle,

[00:42:40] the second you don't win,

[00:42:42] it has to be a rat for you.

[00:42:46] I'm worried though,

[00:42:47] that this episode that also would have been the case.

[00:42:49] Like if he lost,

[00:42:50] he could have gone home.

[00:42:51] Like,

[00:42:52] and the interesting thing to me is that not to diminish his three immunity wins in a row,

[00:42:57] but immunity win one,

[00:43:00] only half the tribe participated.

[00:43:03] Immunity win two.

[00:43:04] He actually loses to teeny and Genevieve who are on the other side who last longer than he did.

[00:43:10] Like he didn't even win that one really.

[00:43:12] And then this one,

[00:43:13] he's only going against like the four other guys.

[00:43:17] So,

[00:43:18] um,

[00:43:19] he's definitely a challenge beast,

[00:43:21] but he hasn't had a single challenge where he's like one outright,

[00:43:25] you know?

[00:43:27] Well,

[00:43:27] I mean,

[00:43:29] a win is a win.

[00:43:31] Yeah,

[00:43:31] but I'm just saying like,

[00:43:32] I don't think he's as much of a,

[00:43:34] like if you won three in a row against everybody,

[00:43:38] then it's,

[00:43:39] that's more impressive.

[00:43:42] Is you try to take the meat off of Kyle's bones and say he ain't really win?

[00:43:48] Oh no,

[00:43:48] I'm almost trying to do him a favor and say,

[00:43:52] wait,

[00:43:54] you're trying to do him a favor by discrediting his wins.

[00:43:57] Cause he didn't win against everybody.

[00:43:59] Well,

[00:44:00] okay.

[00:44:00] I see what you're saying,

[00:44:01] but like there,

[00:44:03] the logic in me would be like,

[00:44:04] okay,

[00:44:05] well he won three,

[00:44:06] but the second one,

[00:44:07] like that he didn't even win.

[00:44:08] And then like the third one,

[00:44:11] he only beat the guys like Sue might've beaten him.

[00:44:13] The first one,

[00:44:14] he didn't go against half the tribe.

[00:44:16] So it's not like,

[00:44:17] I'm not trying to diminish it.

[00:44:20] I'm saying for everybody else,

[00:44:21] they might be like,

[00:44:22] okay,

[00:44:22] maybe he isn't at,

[00:44:23] it's not like,

[00:44:24] I don't think Kyle's going to win every single challenge,

[00:44:26] you know?

[00:44:28] So I personally wouldn't be that worried,

[00:44:31] but if they want to put a target on him for it,

[00:44:33] then so be it.

[00:44:34] But that's what I'm saying.

[00:44:34] Like if I was out there,

[00:44:36] I wouldn't actually be that worried that he's going to be like,

[00:44:38] he's not like a Joe Anglum who can just win every single challenge,

[00:44:41] you know?

[00:44:42] I don't know who that is.

[00:44:45] But I know Jonathan used to be good at challenges.

[00:44:56] I'm worried that he,

[00:44:58] like that's me,

[00:44:59] but the perception as it is,

[00:45:01] if he loses one,

[00:45:03] very high chance of yourself.

[00:45:05] Yeah.

[00:45:06] That is an interesting point though.

[00:45:07] Right.

[00:45:07] Cause at first I thought you were just trying to diminish my man,

[00:45:10] Kyle,

[00:45:10] but like,

[00:45:12] do you think he would have the wherewithal to use that argument if,

[00:45:16] and when he doesn't win a challenge to be like,

[00:45:19] Hey,

[00:45:21] I ain't face everybody.

[00:45:22] I'm not that strong.

[00:45:24] I don't think he does,

[00:45:25] but that's what I'm saying.

[00:45:27] Like my argument is almost as if I was in his shoes.

[00:45:29] I'd be like,

[00:45:30] well,

[00:45:30] I didn't even go against everybody.

[00:45:31] Like I'd be,

[00:45:32] I'd be,

[00:45:33] I'd be diminishing myself.

[00:45:35] But that's the thing.

[00:45:36] I think rule of thumb early on in the merge,

[00:45:40] I don't think you really want to win more than one straight immunity.

[00:45:44] Cause you see,

[00:45:44] especially in the modern era,

[00:45:46] a lot of the winners,

[00:45:47] you know,

[00:45:47] they'll go on that run at the end,

[00:45:49] you know,

[00:45:49] they'll,

[00:45:49] they'll lower it though.

[00:45:50] They won't be perceived as challenged threats.

[00:45:53] They'll get to maybe they'll get the challenge that's out.

[00:45:55] And then maybe they're at that final,

[00:45:56] like seven and they could win like three in a row against,

[00:46:00] not big challenge threats and,

[00:46:02] and set themselves up really nicely.

[00:46:03] But if you win three in a row at the start of the merge,

[00:46:06] then there's still going to be seven or eight tribals.

[00:46:09] Everyone's like,

[00:46:10] well,

[00:46:11] Kyle's a threat.

[00:46:12] So.

[00:46:13] Did,

[00:46:14] did I miss something at the start of this challenge?

[00:46:16] Why did we have a women and a men's winner?

[00:46:21] Um,

[00:46:22] you know,

[00:46:23] they do that sometimes.

[00:46:23] I think partly it's because,

[00:46:25] um,

[00:46:26] they split it up by like,

[00:46:27] it's based on your body weight.

[00:46:29] And so maybe it's a little bit more,

[00:46:31] I don't know if it would be more like four,

[00:46:32] more fair to like a certain gender to have it like that.

[00:46:37] Um,

[00:46:38] but you know,

[00:46:38] we've seen past seasons,

[00:46:40] they'll,

[00:46:40] they'll do a men and a woman,

[00:46:41] a man and a woman winner sometimes.

[00:46:44] Um,

[00:46:45] when they did that,

[00:46:45] I thought I was like,

[00:46:46] is this going to be a double elimination?

[00:46:48] Are two people going home tonight?

[00:46:50] Oh yeah.

[00:46:51] Um,

[00:46:52] and yeah,

[00:46:53] I don't know.

[00:46:53] Cause I wonder if Sue and Kyle squared off at the end.

[00:46:56] I mean,

[00:46:56] Sue was looking strong in there.

[00:46:58] So there's a great chance.

[00:47:00] I think I haven't really had a shot.

[00:47:01] It's just,

[00:47:02] I don't know.

[00:47:03] I feel like this is a challenge.

[00:47:04] I do.

[00:47:04] I think I'd be like a lot like Sam in this challenge.

[00:47:07] Cause my bag would have been 50 something pounds.

[00:47:10] And then I'm not that strong.

[00:47:12] So I'm not holding up,

[00:47:14] you know,

[00:47:15] 55 pounds for that,

[00:47:16] like longer than,

[00:47:17] um,

[00:47:18] someone else is.

[00:47:19] And then I'd be out.

[00:47:20] I'd be like,

[00:47:21] I'm sure I'd be like,

[00:47:22] my bag was like,

[00:47:25] so I,

[00:47:27] when I watch these challenges,

[00:47:28] sometimes I think like,

[00:47:30] call me crazy.

[00:47:31] Tell me what you think.

[00:47:31] If you feel the bag slipping,

[00:47:34] I feel like in my mind,

[00:47:36] I would just let it slip because it hasn't worked for someone to reel it back.

[00:47:42] Like,

[00:47:43] I don't know.

[00:47:43] I just feel like that takes so much energy that ultimately is only going to drop.

[00:47:47] But I mean,

[00:47:48] maybe a couple of seconds.

[00:47:50] I guess maybe it's just when people run are starting to run out of rope.

[00:47:53] It's like,

[00:47:53] they have to at least try or otherwise they're screwed.

[00:47:56] But what,

[00:47:57] you know,

[00:47:57] once you're doing that,

[00:47:58] you're not in the best spot.

[00:48:01] Um,

[00:48:01] it is like,

[00:48:03] go ahead.

[00:48:04] I was going to say like,

[00:48:05] now to Sam's point,

[00:48:11] I don't know.

[00:48:12] Like it's,

[00:48:13] it's also interesting to think about,

[00:48:14] okay,

[00:48:14] if you're at the heavier you are,

[00:48:16] not only is your bag going to be heavier,

[00:48:18] but you're probably going to lose more weight proportionately than anyone else.

[00:48:22] Right?

[00:48:22] Like if you're 220 pounds and you're out there for 15 days,

[00:48:26] you might lose 15 pounds,

[00:48:27] but someone who's like 110 pounds,

[00:48:30] they probably gonna lose a little bit less.

[00:48:32] And so,

[00:48:33] um,

[00:48:34] I,

[00:48:34] I guess the,

[00:48:35] the thing is like,

[00:48:36] for me,

[00:48:36] I basically,

[00:48:37] I'm saying,

[00:48:37] I think this challenge would be really bad for me because I'm heavy,

[00:48:41] but I'm not that strong.

[00:48:43] And I would,

[00:48:44] I have some fat that I would probably lose.

[00:48:46] So I might lose a lot of weight in that,

[00:48:49] that brief amount of time.

[00:48:50] And then that makes it even harder.

[00:48:52] So.

[00:48:52] I know when people go on survivor,

[00:48:55] there's the method of like,

[00:48:56] people want to bulk up before they go on.

[00:48:58] And so like hearing this makes me also think like,

[00:49:00] maybe bulking up,

[00:49:02] isn't the actual best thing to do per se.

[00:49:06] But not for this challenge.

[00:49:08] Yeah.

[00:49:09] I also thought people's forms in this challenge were really interesting.

[00:49:13] Cause can you block it?

[00:49:14] Cause some day do this way.

[00:49:15] And it,

[00:49:15] and some people were sort of doing like,

[00:49:18] uh,

[00:49:19] like standing more out and being like,

[00:49:21] Oh,

[00:49:22] and then some people were hitting like,

[00:49:23] uh,

[00:49:24] Oh,

[00:49:25] you know?

[00:49:25] So like holding it like this,

[00:49:28] I was wondering if you could put your feet up against the,

[00:49:32] like brace yourself.

[00:49:35] Um,

[00:49:36] maybe that's not allowed,

[00:49:36] but I thought that's the best way to do it.

[00:49:38] Cause then you just have your whole body weight,

[00:49:40] like just pushing against.

[00:49:42] Yeah.

[00:49:43] I'm one with the,

[00:49:44] like,

[00:49:46] well,

[00:49:47] I think the lower,

[00:49:48] I absolutely think that the lower you can go with the angle of like,

[00:49:53] your grip is the better it is.

[00:49:55] See,

[00:49:55] but I don't know because with the velocity and the force,

[00:49:59] sometimes that angle is going to give you a speed if,

[00:50:06] and when the pressure of the force doesn't come back with you.

[00:50:11] So you always want to be careful with that angle.

[00:50:13] I didn't think about that.

[00:50:14] Yeah.

[00:50:15] You know,

[00:50:15] I just think,

[00:50:17] um,

[00:50:17] yeah,

[00:50:18] the,

[00:50:18] the more,

[00:50:19] yeah.

[00:50:19] I mean,

[00:50:21] that's a great point,

[00:50:22] but I don't even know how to rebuttal.

[00:50:23] Yeah.

[00:50:24] You know,

[00:50:24] I,

[00:50:25] I,

[00:50:25] I be,

[00:50:26] smart.

[00:50:27] Now it's interesting because after we get Sue and Kyle are the winners again,

[00:50:31] shout out to Sue,

[00:50:32] shout out to Kyle.

[00:50:33] Now this like mayhem ensues,

[00:50:38] but I was like,

[00:50:39] I can't wait to talk to Jack about this because it's just like,

[00:50:41] I just don't know where anyone was going.

[00:50:47] And obviously that's a part of the edit because I'm just like,

[00:50:50] well,

[00:50:50] who's the target?

[00:50:51] I mean,

[00:50:51] we know who Andy wants,

[00:50:53] but I don't know.

[00:50:54] I enjoyed this aspect of it.

[00:50:56] Cause I was like,

[00:50:57] okay,

[00:50:57] this is one of these tribals where it's like,

[00:50:58] I don't know what the hell is going on.

[00:51:00] And they're not really giving us any clues as to where the numbers are lying.

[00:51:06] Yeah.

[00:51:07] Yeah.

[00:51:08] I think it was just like the benefit of the 90 minute episodes is we have,

[00:51:12] we know that this group is the target,

[00:51:14] but now all the rest of the eight players are all like,

[00:51:19] okay,

[00:51:20] well within this group,

[00:51:22] I prefer to keep this person over this person,

[00:51:25] or we should target this person or someone else wants to target this person.

[00:51:28] So it's like,

[00:51:29] okay,

[00:51:29] we all agree on like this.

[00:51:31] Someone from this group should go home,

[00:51:32] but now we all have our different little relationships coming into play that makes certain people want other people like more than others.

[00:51:40] And so it's like,

[00:51:42] okay,

[00:51:42] if we're all trying to vote together,

[00:51:43] how do we come to a compromise here?

[00:51:45] It's like,

[00:51:46] get that best person out.

[00:51:47] Um,

[00:51:48] and another thing I thought was interesting is this whole idea of,

[00:51:53] um,

[00:51:54] you know,

[00:51:55] Sam is sort of that person that I think would be typically targeted.

[00:51:58] You know,

[00:51:58] he's a bigger guy,

[00:51:59] sort of been the strategic figurehead for Gata to some extent.

[00:52:04] Um,

[00:52:05] but now I,

[00:52:05] I think,

[00:52:06] uh,

[00:52:07] uh,

[00:52:07] uh,

[00:52:09] byproduct of the new era,

[00:52:11] we've seen a lot of winners be sort of those like under the radar sneaky threats.

[00:52:15] And I feel like people this season are saying,

[00:52:18] okay,

[00:52:18] Sam's an obvious threat.

[00:52:19] Like we can get him out later.

[00:52:21] It's these sneaky threats,

[00:52:22] like a Sierra or Rachel who actually might have more winner equity.

[00:52:27] And so let's kind of table Sam for now.

[00:52:30] And we can go for one of those sneakier threats,

[00:52:32] which I think is,

[00:52:33] it's not like a brand new strategy,

[00:52:35] but I think it's definitely a little bit different than I think we've seen in the past.

[00:52:40] Um,

[00:52:40] where,

[00:52:41] you know,

[00:52:41] early merge,

[00:52:42] a lot of times it's those big challenge threats people want to get out,

[00:52:44] but now it's more like,

[00:52:46] who's like an underrated person that could slip by.

[00:52:48] Oh,

[00:52:48] they're actually not underrated anymore.

[00:52:50] Cause we see that we see that what they're doing.

[00:52:53] Um,

[00:52:54] so yeah,

[00:52:54] I just thought it was a really interesting juggle,

[00:52:58] um,

[00:53:00] between them,

[00:53:00] but I,

[00:53:01] I hope,

[00:53:02] yeah,

[00:53:02] I don't know.

[00:53:03] Yeah.

[00:53:04] Now we get the tribal.

[00:53:06] We know Rachel has an idol from her fry idol.

[00:53:11] Now this is where I was like,

[00:53:12] I got to talk to Jack because I'm so confused.

[00:53:16] Yeah.

[00:53:17] Now,

[00:53:17] I mean,

[00:53:18] we've seen Rachel's name was floated out there.

[00:53:21] So us as the viewers,

[00:53:22] I'm like,

[00:53:23] okay,

[00:53:23] I don't really know.

[00:53:24] Like,

[00:53:24] you know,

[00:53:25] with Rachel really is a target,

[00:53:26] uh,

[00:53:28] but she plays her shot in the dark.

[00:53:31] Now,

[00:53:33] was it really to play the shot in the dark or was it really to gauge like how

[00:53:39] people will react to me playing the shot in the dark?

[00:53:42] And if they react that way,

[00:53:43] then I'm going to play my idol.

[00:53:45] And so I need for you to explain to me,

[00:53:47] is that a smart move?

[00:53:50] It's a great move.

[00:53:51] And I think you,

[00:53:52] you hit the nail on the head.

[00:53:54] It's,

[00:53:54] it's a great move.

[00:53:55] And I've seen a lot of people online,

[00:53:56] like raving about how good of a move it is too,

[00:53:59] because it just allows her,

[00:54:01] it gives her so many benefits.

[00:54:03] Um,

[00:54:04] and you,

[00:54:04] you know,

[00:54:05] usually the shot in the dark,

[00:54:06] not super useful,

[00:54:07] except for very neat.

[00:54:09] Most of the time it's like,

[00:54:10] Oh,

[00:54:11] the only time people really play is like,

[00:54:12] Oh,

[00:54:12] I like know that I'm the target.

[00:54:14] Right.

[00:54:15] And you only have like a once for me,

[00:54:18] it's,

[00:54:18] it's nice to see this because.

[00:54:21] Hey,

[00:54:22] if you have an idol and you think,

[00:54:23] you know,

[00:54:24] you need to play it,

[00:54:25] which is not,

[00:54:26] this is not the situation,

[00:54:27] but you might as well play the shot in the dark beforehand,

[00:54:30] because then there's a one in six chance.

[00:54:32] You just get to keep your idol.

[00:54:34] And then if it doesn't work,

[00:54:35] then you just play your idol.

[00:54:36] Like why not?

[00:54:37] For Rachel,

[00:54:37] I think it was very apparent that playing the shot in the dark,

[00:54:41] she can try to gauge people's reactions.

[00:54:44] Um,

[00:54:45] and then maybe play the idol after.

[00:54:46] Right.

[00:54:46] So if it says like not safe and everyone's like,

[00:54:49] Oh,

[00:54:49] thank God.

[00:54:50] Oh my God.

[00:54:52] Then she could be like,

[00:54:52] Oh,

[00:54:53] it looks like maybe I was going,

[00:54:55] I could play my idol.

[00:54:56] And then the last little thing that I think is kind of underrated.

[00:54:59] Um,

[00:55:00] and maybe this was maybe a smaller factor in her decision-making.

[00:55:03] Maybe it wasn't,

[00:55:04] um,

[00:55:05] apparent,

[00:55:05] you know,

[00:55:06] this,

[00:55:07] this is going to be the first member of the jury.

[00:55:11] And so now.

[00:55:12] Come on,

[00:55:13] come on,

[00:55:15] come on.

[00:55:16] You don't have to show your hand.

[00:55:18] You can tell Sierra can go to the jury thinking that,

[00:55:20] you know,

[00:55:21] you're a hundred,

[00:55:22] you were with her and you just got nervous.

[00:55:24] And now that's going to be the mayor of Ponderosa advocating for you,

[00:55:28] um,

[00:55:29] to the rest of the jury.

[00:55:30] So I think Rachel kind of worked out for her on every level.

[00:55:34] And also,

[00:55:35] even if it's not Sierra,

[00:55:36] she doesn't have to necessarily turn on Gata,

[00:55:38] but she also doesn't have to be with Gata and against everybody else.

[00:55:42] So she keeps like a very neutral position and just,

[00:55:46] it was a great,

[00:55:47] great play by Rachel.

[00:55:48] That was,

[00:55:50] so we were watching it at a bar last night and I was screaming,

[00:55:53] the window was like,

[00:55:54] like,

[00:55:54] that's the best move.

[00:55:55] Now I play in the shot in the dark,

[00:55:59] to gauge the other people.

[00:56:01] I was like,

[00:56:01] okay,

[00:56:01] I don't know if that makes sense because like,

[00:56:04] how are you really going to gauge?

[00:56:05] Right?

[00:56:06] Because I put myself in light,

[00:56:08] say it was like Andy,

[00:56:09] right?

[00:56:09] I feel like if Andy did that,

[00:56:11] no matter what,

[00:56:12] he's going to think people are targeting him.

[00:56:13] But when I saw that she didn't play it,

[00:56:16] I was like,

[00:56:17] oh my God,

[00:56:19] you don't have your hand in the first person going to the jury.

[00:56:24] And what people can say what they want,

[00:56:27] a spoil,

[00:56:27] a bitter jury.

[00:56:29] There is something to be said about if you piss off the first person on the

[00:56:34] jury,

[00:56:35] they're like,

[00:56:36] you know what I mean?

[00:56:37] Like I,

[00:56:38] that,

[00:56:39] that move got my britches a little wet because I was like,

[00:56:44] that's smart as hell.

[00:56:46] Because now she is crystal clear.

[00:56:50] Like she's in the clear.

[00:56:52] And I was also saying this to Wendell,

[00:56:55] uh,

[00:56:56] the way the cameras was zooming in on Rachel,

[00:57:04] Jennifer,

[00:57:07] and Caroline during this episode,

[00:57:10] I said,

[00:57:15] do I need to focus on them?

[00:57:17] Like,

[00:57:17] I don't know.

[00:57:18] Like the,

[00:57:18] the,

[00:57:19] the way,

[00:57:20] did I not say that when DZ,

[00:57:21] you did,

[00:57:22] you did.

[00:57:23] And I was getting,

[00:57:25] I was getting,

[00:57:26] you said,

[00:57:26] you said Rachel a lot and we're seeing,

[00:57:31] we're seeing a lot of gameplay from her.

[00:57:33] I'm scared that that's going to,

[00:57:35] you know,

[00:57:35] I'm scared that that's going to be bad for her.

[00:57:42] But the thing that is kind of nice about this move too,

[00:57:45] is that to anyone,

[00:57:46] not,

[00:57:52] yeah.

[00:57:53] Well,

[00:57:53] I mean,

[00:57:53] Wendell was saying that,

[00:57:54] um,

[00:57:55] this could raise Rachel's threat level,

[00:57:57] but the thing I like about it is it's a really good move,

[00:58:00] but to the people out there,

[00:58:02] they might just be like,

[00:58:03] Oh,

[00:58:03] Rachel got spooked and played her shot in the dark.

[00:58:05] They don't know that she has an idol.

[00:58:06] Right.

[00:58:07] They don't know like all the layers to it.

[00:58:10] And that kind of brings me to like the other part of the episode.

[00:58:12] We didn't talk a lot about,

[00:58:13] I felt like last episode of this episode,

[00:58:16] Rachel was just kind of firing on all cylinders.

[00:58:19] Every inner,

[00:58:19] like when soul tells her that he gave her the advantage,

[00:58:23] I loved her response of being like,

[00:58:25] Oh,

[00:58:25] I figured it was you.

[00:58:26] Cause that shows soul that she has confidence in him.

[00:58:29] Um,

[00:58:30] even though,

[00:58:30] you know,

[00:58:31] there's not really any way that she would know.

[00:58:32] So,

[00:58:33] and most likely in that group,

[00:58:35] the other Gatsas would have gave her that advantage.

[00:58:39] Teenie probably would have gave her that advantage.

[00:58:41] Genevieve might've given her that advantage,

[00:58:42] but to tell soul,

[00:58:44] like it kind of like tells him you're,

[00:58:46] he's a,

[00:58:47] you're a number one without telling him.

[00:58:49] Um,

[00:58:51] I read that felt like I was reading it.

[00:58:53] Like if I was so,

[00:58:53] I'd be like,

[00:58:55] no,

[00:58:55] how the hell would you know that?

[00:58:56] Like I read it like you lying.

[00:58:58] Like for me,

[00:58:59] I was like,

[00:58:59] Oh my God,

[00:59:00] I hope soul doesn't get spooked by that because,

[00:59:02] there's a way that you could take that.

[00:59:04] Like now,

[00:59:04] how in the world did you know?

[00:59:05] Cause I didn't even know I was going to give it to you,

[00:59:08] but I'm hearing what you say.

[00:59:09] Yeah.

[00:59:10] And so I thought that was a great interaction.

[00:59:12] I thought like her,

[00:59:14] you know,

[00:59:15] I was a little worried when she was getting that idol,

[00:59:18] whenever like,

[00:59:18] but she pulled it off.

[00:59:19] I was like,

[00:59:20] just do it at night or something.

[00:59:21] Like just act like you're fixing the roof or something.

[00:59:25] But she made that happen.

[00:59:27] And then I also thought when she played the shot,

[00:59:29] like,

[00:59:29] I just think she,

[00:59:31] her way of speaking through,

[00:59:32] like strategic decisions or like explaining to people,

[00:59:35] it was just very smart.

[00:59:38] And yeah,

[00:59:39] it's,

[00:59:39] she's just,

[00:59:40] she's a good player.

[00:59:41] And we'll see if you will catch on.

[00:59:43] It definitely last episode with that whole situation of her being alone and

[00:59:46] being saved.

[00:59:47] We'll probably put her on people's radars more than she would like,

[00:59:51] but I feel like hopefully I think her and Sam,

[00:59:54] now that Sierra has gone,

[00:59:55] should be in a good spot to be kind of free agents.

[00:59:59] Because they got Sierra out,

[01:00:00] but I really do think there's going to need to be some two coups that leave at

[01:00:04] some point.

[01:00:04] So,

[01:00:04] but she's on Genevieve's radar,

[01:00:06] right?

[01:00:07] Yeah,

[01:00:08] a little bit.

[01:00:09] And,

[01:00:09] and Genevieve,

[01:00:10] Genevieve is a scary player.

[01:00:12] Like Rachel,

[01:00:15] I don't want to be on Genevieve's radar,

[01:00:16] you know,

[01:00:17] like they're scary.

[01:00:18] She's a scary player.

[01:00:19] So,

[01:00:20] and,

[01:00:20] and both Rachel and Genevieve can win this game.

[01:00:24] And,

[01:00:25] and like,

[01:00:26] I think Saul got some winner in him too.

[01:00:28] So like,

[01:00:29] I'm,

[01:00:30] I,

[01:00:30] I'm interested to see how this plays out,

[01:00:32] but I'm scared for Rachel,

[01:00:34] but thankfully she has this idol,

[01:00:37] but man,

[01:00:38] and she's so smart.

[01:00:39] So she's going to,

[01:00:40] she's going to play it in a really,

[01:00:43] I think she's going to play it smart.

[01:00:45] I mean,

[01:00:47] we've never seen somebody bluff with a shot in the dark.

[01:00:50] So,

[01:00:50] I mean,

[01:00:51] that alone is update,

[01:00:54] update indeed.com resume,

[01:00:56] because that's a resume booster.

[01:00:59] Cause we've never seen that.

[01:01:01] My last final thought,

[01:01:03] calling me Bryce Springer,

[01:01:06] seeing Sierra go home in the position that she went home on.

[01:01:10] And again,

[01:01:10] mind you,

[01:01:11] I'm in my,

[01:01:11] I stand Kageyan era.

[01:01:13] Sierra,

[01:01:14] it reminded me of Sarah Lucina,

[01:01:16] right?

[01:01:17] Like Sarah Lucina and like,

[01:01:18] not the same,

[01:01:19] but I really felt like Sierra was in such a power position.

[01:01:25] And to see everybody.

[01:01:28] Wendell to Andy and kind of follow Andy's move.

[01:01:31] And it kind of sort of reminded me of like Sarah and Cass a little bit.

[01:01:35] Cass was the one that put the nail in Sarah's coffin.

[01:01:37] And it's like,

[01:01:38] if Sierra had a little bit more trust in Andy and made him feel comfortable

[01:01:43] because ultimately Andy is the one that signed,

[01:01:48] sealed and delivered.

[01:01:50] Yeah.

[01:01:53] That's my little two cents.

[01:01:55] But it is safe to say that,

[01:01:58] uh,

[01:01:59] although Rome might be gone,

[01:02:01] the season is definitely shaping up and we have some amazing players.

[01:02:07] Uh,

[01:02:07] we've got the rat King.

[01:02:09] We've got Rachel,

[01:02:10] the idol bluffer.

[01:02:12] We have Kyle,

[01:02:13] the non meat eat a meat eater.

[01:02:15] We got the 45 year old goddess.

[01:02:18] We've got Genevieve,

[01:02:20] the B killer.

[01:02:21] Like all the wrecking ball.

[01:02:23] So the wrecking ball.

[01:02:26] Okay.

[01:02:26] We got Caroline.

[01:02:28] Let me hear you out.

[01:02:30] Like,

[01:02:30] I don't know.

[01:02:31] Like we've got a lot of different,

[01:02:33] you know,

[01:02:34] Caroline said we in the Alliance.

[01:02:35] Okay.

[01:02:36] It's just not.

[01:02:38] We got TV.

[01:02:40] Let's get sweetie.

[01:02:42] Like teeny is also another amazing person that we haven't really seen a lot of.

[01:02:48] Who is gritty.

[01:02:50] Who is like question.

[01:02:52] Teeny question.

[01:02:54] What's up?

[01:02:55] You can ask the bigger question as you want.

[01:02:57] It's the real teeny one.

[01:03:00] There.

[01:03:05] Okay.

[01:03:06] Okay.

[01:03:08] That was funny.

[01:03:10] All right.

[01:03:11] Their obsession with.

[01:03:14] Is their obsession with an all girl Alliance going to be.

[01:03:18] To their demise.

[01:03:21] I'm speaking about teeny.

[01:03:23] Continually wanting to do this all girl thing.

[01:03:26] And actually last episode,

[01:03:28] like she wanted to go for.

[01:03:32] Sam.

[01:03:33] And.

[01:03:35] Are you,

[01:03:36] can you all still hear me?

[01:03:36] Yeah.

[01:03:37] Yeah.

[01:03:37] You can.

[01:03:37] Yeah.

[01:03:38] Sorry.

[01:03:38] Sorry.

[01:03:38] Sorry.

[01:03:38] Sorry.

[01:03:39] Cause Bryce is frozen laughing and Jack is frozen.

[01:03:42] Anyway.

[01:03:44] Teeny wanted to go for Sam.

[01:03:46] And it seems like.

[01:03:48] You know,

[01:03:48] clearly the,

[01:03:49] the bigger.

[01:03:50] The,

[01:03:50] the one that the more than wanted was Sierra.

[01:03:53] So.

[01:03:54] Is teeny.

[01:03:56] Does teeny have chops to get.

[01:03:58] Like to go to the end.

[01:03:59] That's what I'm saying.

[01:04:00] Or like.

[01:04:01] It.

[01:04:01] Is teeny a legitimate threat right now?

[01:04:03] Or what are we thinking about teeny?

[01:04:06] First of all,

[01:04:07] after the week that we just had.

[01:04:09] I'm here for this.

[01:04:10] All ladies Alliance.

[01:04:12] Okay.

[01:04:13] Let me just say that.

[01:04:15] Period.

[01:04:15] Uh,

[01:04:16] I absolutely think teeny has what it takes to go to the end.

[01:04:19] We've seen how she was with Keyshawn in the beginning.

[01:04:22] Like teeny for sure has the relationships.

[01:04:25] Um,

[01:04:26] I just get a little nervous with these other variables,

[01:04:30] but I absolutely think teeny is.

[01:04:32] And the fact that we haven't even really seen much of teeny.

[01:04:35] These last couple of episodes for me,

[01:04:36] it's like,

[01:04:37] Ooh,

[01:04:37] come on teeny.

[01:04:38] I think teeny has what it has,

[01:04:40] has what it takes.

[01:04:42] And not in a teeny weeny way in a big way.

[01:04:45] Well,

[01:04:46] all right.

[01:04:46] Yeah.

[01:04:47] I'm a little,

[01:04:48] I'm a teeny fan for sure,

[01:04:50] but I'm a little nervous because.

[01:04:53] You know,

[01:04:54] I think the thing is her,

[01:04:55] her crew is Genevieve and Saul right now.

[01:04:59] And they were close with Sierra.

[01:05:01] But if you look at like,

[01:05:03] Genevieve is kind of a tough person to be with because Genevieve is so

[01:05:06] good that she,

[01:05:07] that she's going to kind of direct things.

[01:05:10] And I think teeny at some point is going to need to branch out.

[01:05:13] Um,

[01:05:13] because I don't think getting to the end with Genevieve is a,

[01:05:15] is a very good strategy or Saul for that matter.

[01:05:19] And then now it's like,

[01:05:21] okay,

[01:05:22] teeny lost Sierra who was their connection on the Gata group.

[01:05:26] And then teen doesn't seem super close with like Gabe or Sue or Kyle.

[01:05:31] So I could see teeny getting through just because of their charisma,

[01:05:37] and being a little bit under the radar.

[01:05:39] And then maybe at the end,

[01:05:40] like teeny is not someone I would want to sit next to because they're so

[01:05:42] lovable and like just fun that I think people would vote for them.

[01:05:46] Um,

[01:05:47] but I just worry about going forward,

[01:05:49] how much agency team is going to necessarily be able to have because her

[01:05:53] closest allies right now are kind of the ones running the game.

[01:05:56] And teens are sort of right now,

[01:06:00] a little bit in the passenger seat,

[01:06:01] but I don't mind teeny compromising a little bit of like,

[01:06:03] okay,

[01:06:04] we can do Sierra this time.

[01:06:05] Cause it's,

[01:06:05] I don't think it's gonna be make or break,

[01:06:07] but there's just a lot of game left.

[01:06:08] I don't love teens position right now,

[01:06:11] but knowing teeny,

[01:06:12] like there's a lot of,

[01:06:14] there's a lot of upside.

[01:06:15] So,

[01:06:15] right.

[01:06:16] And it's like,

[01:06:17] I want to be with somebody that's want to be calling the shots this early

[01:06:20] on,

[01:06:20] because more than likely you're going to be coined as the person that is

[01:06:25] making the shots and we need to take a move on it.

[01:06:27] And I feel like teeny is the type of player that she will pull the trigger

[01:06:32] and make the move and get rid of them when need be.

[01:06:35] So I think that it is a teeny still has a shot in the dark and it's not

[01:06:41] dark.

[01:06:42] For sure.

[01:06:43] So,

[01:06:44] yeah,

[01:06:44] I think so.

[01:06:45] I think the season is off to an amazing start.

[01:06:48] I can't wait to see what episode nine gives us.

[01:06:51] Uh,

[01:06:51] and I can't thank you enough for listening to everybody.

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