Purple Pants Podcast | Panama Problems: Trust Issues and Tensions in Potomac

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[00:01:22] She and I are breaking down all things episode 13 of season nine of the Real Housewives of Potomac.

[00:01:29] The ladies are still in Panama. We've got to get to the bottom of where Mia's kids are.

[00:01:34] We have to get into some things with Karen, Wendy and Giselle and of course, Ashley. So listen,

[00:01:40] let's get into this week's Real Housewives of Potomac recap.

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[00:02:02] Happy New Year and welcome back to your Purple Pants podcast coverage of season nine

[00:02:08] of the Real Housewives of Potomac. We are back this week covering just one episode, episode 13.

[00:02:14] I'm joined by my amazing, talented, smart, devoted,

[00:02:22] beautiful, loving,

[00:02:25] sensitive,

[00:02:27] and friend, Dr. Jatia

[00:02:31] and it's 2025.

[00:02:34] Taylor Hart.

[00:02:36] Welcome back to the podcast.

[00:02:36] Oh my goodness!

[00:02:38] Wow! It's 2025 and look at you turn it over a new leaf fam, a name right.

[00:02:43] Oh my goodness.

[00:02:45] Love it.

[00:02:45] So excited to be back.

[00:02:48] New year,

[00:02:49] new you.

[00:02:50] Loving it.

[00:02:51] Ready to discuss.

[00:02:53] And boy, do we have a lot to unpack.

[00:02:56] Just like my luggage from vacation.

[00:02:59] All right.

[00:02:59] Yes.

[00:02:59] Well, shout out to our good friend,

[00:03:02] Gia Worthy,

[00:03:03] who covered episode 11 and 12 with us during your absence

[00:03:07] while you were traveling for the holidays.

[00:03:11] Let us know.

[00:03:13] Thank you very much, girl.

[00:03:17] Let us know what your travel was like.

[00:03:20] What was you doing with the family?

[00:03:22] So I was over in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

[00:03:27] And so, yeah, I hit two countries.

[00:03:30] I hit England and Wales with my family.

[00:03:34] So my daughter, my son, and my husband.

[00:03:37] And we went and we saw my husband is from England.

[00:03:40] So we were in the Lake District and also went down to Taunton, which is in Southwest England,

[00:03:49] right across from Wales.

[00:03:50] So it was nice.

[00:03:52] It was lovely.

[00:03:53] It was cold.

[00:03:53] It was wet.

[00:03:54] Happy to be back in the U.S.

[00:03:56] So.

[00:03:57] Yes.

[00:03:58] Now, have you ever taken that trip with your children?

[00:04:00] Have you ever taken that trip solo?

[00:04:04] I have been to England a few times solo.

[00:04:08] Yeah.

[00:04:09] So I went on like a study abroad when I was at university.

[00:04:13] I was in London for a few months.

[00:04:17] Yeah.

[00:04:17] So then I guess that's where I fell in love with England.

[00:04:20] And I've been collecting British things ever since, like my husband.

[00:04:24] Okay.

[00:04:24] And you got some British kids now, right?

[00:04:27] Right.

[00:04:28] Yes.

[00:04:29] Yeah.

[00:04:29] My nieces and nephew.

[00:04:30] Now, say you were over abroad by yourself and you thought your children were with Uncle

[00:04:39] Bright's and you get abroad and you find out that your husband has picked them up, driven

[00:04:46] them eight hours away to an undisclosed location.

[00:04:51] And then he gets on an airplane and travels to somewhere else.

[00:04:57] That would not be okay.

[00:04:57] That would not be okay.

[00:04:58] Look, if somebody has taken my children anywhere without me knowing, it would not be okay.

[00:05:04] Not at all.

[00:05:05] It would be on and popping.

[00:05:07] I would be on the first thing smoking, honey.

[00:05:10] Back over there to rain, hot fury and terror like nobody has ever seen.

[00:05:19] Let me tell you, there will be a lot more than rice being dumped on the fire.

[00:05:23] It would be a lot of stuff going down.

[00:05:27] Okay.

[00:05:27] I would be, yeah, it would be a whole bunch of knuckle sandwiches being served.

[00:05:33] Tea sandwiches, knuckle sandwiches, all kinds of stuff.

[00:05:36] Yeah.

[00:05:36] It would not be good for nobody.

[00:05:38] Yeah.

[00:05:39] So episode 13 of season nine picks right back up.

[00:05:42] The girls trip to Panama.

[00:05:44] The ladies are settling into their home.

[00:05:46] And Mia gets a call from somebody that she doesn't know where the kids are.

[00:05:51] It seems like Jacqueline, the kids were left at Jacqueline's house and Gordon came to pick

[00:05:56] them up.

[00:05:57] And he has taken them down somewhere four hours to the south.

[00:06:02] And Mia can't seem to get in contact with anybody.

[00:06:06] And she's seemingly holding it together.

[00:06:10] And then we can then later confirm that the kids are at a nanny's home that used the nanny

[00:06:18] for Mia's oldest son.

[00:06:21] And so she feels comfortable that they are there.

[00:06:24] So the trip continues.

[00:06:27] God, child.

[00:06:29] I mean, it's good that she knows where the kids are.

[00:06:32] That's a bull.

[00:06:33] So like, and I do think that he definitely did this to try and be chaotic.

[00:06:41] I don't know if he was in one of his huge states or whatever, but it's clear that he is

[00:06:47] unstable.

[00:06:47] I don't know whoever let him pick the kids up, but I would be mad at that person as well.

[00:06:54] So for me, that has spent a long time in the child welfare industry.

[00:07:01] Uh, you know, by nature, I'm a social worker, have spent many times in the child welfare industry.

[00:07:09] The thing that struck me as odd, cause I, trust me when I say I have had to knock at doors

[00:07:17] with police to take children from the home.

[00:07:20] I've had to serve, be a part of serving warrants.

[00:07:24] I've had to testify in court.

[00:07:26] I've seen a lot of things in child welfare.

[00:07:28] And so the thing that as the episode went on and Mia's story began to unfold, the thing

[00:07:35] that struck me, the oddest was that Mia's, I guess at some point in time, and we can get

[00:07:42] back to it, but I'm just here in this moment.

[00:07:44] When someone said, Mia, did you talk to your kids today?

[00:07:47] And she said, oh yeah, Jeremiah's swimming.

[00:07:49] You know, the other one's having a great time.

[00:07:51] Then they show a photo of Jeremiah swimming.

[00:07:53] The thing that I most thought of was, oh, so when Gordon rangled up the children, he remembered

[00:08:01] to bring Jeremiah's swimming trunks.

[00:08:03] Like, I just thought that that was just something that's not a huge thing to be a part of, but

[00:08:10] also it was like, did you know that they were going Mia?

[00:08:13] Did you pack a bag for them to go?

[00:08:15] It just kind of seemed like adding to the storyline because the way that you're describing it, Gordon

[00:08:25] just showed up to Jacqueline's house and took the kids.

[00:08:31] Jacqueline don't got no swimming pool.

[00:08:33] Okay, we've seen Jacqueline's house.

[00:08:35] Like, so like, now the kids got their swimming trunks.

[00:08:39] But anyway, I digress.

[00:08:40] But it just seemed like if I were to exaggerate a story for a storyline, this would seem like

[00:08:48] it would go in alliance with the story that is going on that Gordon is this erratic person

[00:08:57] because listen, I don't, I'm not a child.

[00:08:59] I mean, I am a child, but I'm not a parent.

[00:09:03] I don't have children.

[00:09:04] I may not have children in this lifetime, but I am an uncle.

[00:09:09] I am a godfather.

[00:09:11] I am a pet's father.

[00:09:13] Uh, and my brother, my sister, my friends got to send a bat signal out and I'm not even

[00:09:23] on the first thing smoking.

[00:09:24] I'm, I'm running down the street.

[00:09:28] I'm on the, I'm, hello, my name is Emily and I like to report a kidnapping.

[00:09:35] I'm on the first phone call to the police when it comes to children.

[00:09:43] Yeah, I don't, I don't even know.

[00:09:46] I don't even know about this, but I don't know.

[00:09:50] I don't know.

[00:09:50] I'd have been gone.

[00:09:51] I'd have been gone.

[00:09:54] Anything that like was any foul play.

[00:09:59] I don't know.

[00:10:00] This upsets me so much.

[00:10:01] And, you know, she seems like she tried to pull it together, but, and then I don't know,

[00:10:07] later in the episode, they'll also talk about like, uh, Karen tried to bring up to her,

[00:10:12] you know, about calling the police and stuff like that.

[00:10:17] But she definitely needs to put her foot down and kind of be like, you can't see the children.

[00:10:21] Right.

[00:10:21] Cause she was saying something like, well, what am I supposed to do when he shows up?

[00:10:24] Karen said, do you have full custody?

[00:10:26] No.

[00:10:27] Yeah.

[00:10:27] You have full custody, baby.

[00:10:30] The children don't go anywhere without your say so.

[00:10:34] Say so.

[00:10:34] Yes.

[00:10:35] I would, he, he could only like have supervised visits.

[00:10:40] Until you, yeah.

[00:10:42] And not in the home and not supervised by me, but listen, while you were gone over the holidays,

[00:10:49] then this doesn't have much to do with the episode, but baby, Mia took the internet by storm

[00:10:57] when fans noticed that on New Year's Eve, Mia posted this photo with Gordon that said,

[00:11:05] New Year, new beginnings, cheers to living life to the fullest.

[00:11:10] Fans also noticed that Mia and Ink were no longer following each other and they have scrubbed each

[00:11:20] other's social media blank.

[00:11:24] And then I guess Ink went on cause you know, Ink is a radio DJ personality.

[00:11:32] He went on later in the week to confirm that him and Mia have split.

[00:11:41] Whatever.

[00:11:43] Like they, I mean, she always split in with somebody.

[00:11:47] She need to split.

[00:11:48] She need to be by herself.

[00:11:49] She just need to heal and figure out what she's going to do.

[00:11:53] I don't think she needs to be with him either.

[00:11:58] Cause he obviously has issues.

[00:12:01] It's a lot going on.

[00:12:03] However, we get, we do get an update.

[00:12:06] This episode, Kiana shares with us, I guess someone asked her like, how's Greg doing?

[00:12:11] Kiana shares, you know, since she's not there, you know, he's, he's only eating pizza for breakfast,

[00:12:18] lunch and dinner.

[00:12:19] And that.

[00:12:20] Greg is living his best life.

[00:12:22] Basically.

[00:12:24] I mean, she don't cook no way.

[00:12:26] So like, I guess he can eat whatever the hell he wants.

[00:12:28] I don't know.

[00:12:29] As if, as, as an awful non cooker, I don't see why, uh, she's so concerned.

[00:12:35] Just let that man do what he want to do.

[00:12:40] Also at this meeting of the minds, Giselle lets us know that at the love lagoon, that

[00:12:47] she talked to Ray and Ray said that Karen had a list of things that Ray needs to do

[00:12:55] to get back in the good love graces.

[00:12:58] And Karen was like, Ray told you that?

[00:13:01] Giselle said he did.

[00:13:02] Karen said that, well, Ray, there are a couple of things that Ray needs to do.

[00:13:07] But he's working through the list.

[00:13:10] He's working through the list.

[00:13:12] However, Ray's doing one thing that seems to be working it all out.

[00:13:21] And I was ready for that scene to be over.

[00:13:25] I was like, I didn't need to know all that.

[00:13:27] I didn't need to know all that, but.

[00:13:29] I didn't need to know that Uncle Ray is allegedly going down on Karen.

[00:13:34] Then they said, well, Karen, you said in previous seasons that you've retired your oral service.

[00:13:42] Has this now?

[00:13:43] I think the phrase was retired your mouth.

[00:13:45] And I didn't need to hear that phrase either.

[00:13:47] And Karen said the mouth is still on pause, but Ray is still going down.

[00:13:52] We said, okay.

[00:13:54] All right.

[00:13:55] It's a lot going on.

[00:13:57] I didn't want to know none of that.

[00:13:58] I didn't want to know nothing.

[00:14:01] I wanted to put my fingers in my ears and yell la, la, la, la, la.

[00:14:07] When Karen said her mouth was on pause, I can't help but think about her DUI video that is circulating

[00:14:14] and her saying that she is Thomas Jefferson's concubine.

[00:14:19] Yeah.

[00:14:19] Okay.

[00:14:20] But is your mouth still, is your mouth on pause for Thomas Jefferson?

[00:14:26] Oh, and I just, I don't know.

[00:14:29] Like, I was also very sad for her and her conviction.

[00:14:33] And I think by the time, no, not by the time we paid, but her sentencing is on, I think,

[00:14:39] the end of January, January 29th.

[00:14:42] Is there a sentencing?

[00:14:43] Yeah.

[00:14:44] So we'll definitely be talking about that.

[00:14:46] We definitely, we might have to do a special podcast.

[00:14:50] And we are day two of Panama.

[00:14:53] We're on the bus going to an excursion.

[00:14:56] And just when I'm like, you know what?

[00:14:58] Jacqueline is getting in my good graces.

[00:15:00] We are seeing how much she is supporting Mia during this time.

[00:15:04] She's on the phone.

[00:15:05] But then when we find out that the kids was taken from her house, I feel like, well,

[00:15:08] she should be on the phone and she should be freaking out just as much as Mia.

[00:15:14] However, the thing that then Jacqueline kind of, my face gets scrunched up at is Jacqueline

[00:15:23] is spilling the tea to Ashley on the bus that, yeah, Mia had a morning.

[00:15:28] She didn't know where the kids was at.

[00:15:30] Gordon took the kids, all of this.

[00:15:32] Oh my goodness.

[00:15:34] So Mia, I mean, Jacqueline just like, she'd just be oversharing.

[00:15:38] She'd be oversharing.

[00:15:39] She just do not know when to hush.

[00:15:42] Like, especially like, don't tell your friend business why you got to be talking about y'all

[00:15:49] taking showers and who y'all sharing.

[00:15:51] Girl, just hush.

[00:15:53] Just lock it up, baby.

[00:15:55] Like, for real.

[00:15:56] So again, oversharing, telling all the business.

[00:15:59] Um, and then also she let, uh, Ashley just dive right into it.

[00:16:05] Like, she just did not need to share that.

[00:16:08] I thought it was a little bit much.

[00:16:10] Yeah.

[00:16:10] And it's also, it's like, well, if Mia, and sometimes we see Mia snapping on Jacqueline

[00:16:16] and us as viewers, we're like, well, Jacqueline didn't do anything.

[00:16:18] Why are you snapping on Jacqueline?

[00:16:19] But in moments like this, it's like me as a viewer, I'm snapping on Jacqueline.

[00:16:24] We see while the ladies are out shopping, uh, Ashley kind of sort of brings this up.

[00:16:30] She brings up, she's defending Giselle, Giselle's children and me and her get into it.

[00:16:38] Yeah.

[00:16:40] And Ashley's like, well, I'm just kind of being honest with you.

[00:16:42] I'm telling you like, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm bringing up your kids.

[00:16:45] You brought up Giselle's kids, but the way you're reacting, I don't know how to respond

[00:16:49] or how to show up for you as a friend.

[00:16:51] And Mia says, don't.

[00:16:52] Oh, and Ashley's like, say less.

[00:16:55] And she goes to the other shop, the, I don't do Mia shop.

[00:16:59] So, you know, that, which is where Giselle and the Grand Dame are, you know, hanging out

[00:17:05] and also, um, Wendy.

[00:17:08] So she goes over to that side.

[00:17:10] So again, it's like, you are just driving people away from you.

[00:17:14] Um, so I get it.

[00:17:16] Like, really nobody can talk to you.

[00:17:19] You are acting very, you know, wishy-washy, sort of Gordon-esque, if I dare say.

[00:17:27] Right?

[00:17:28] Trying to figure out who, who is with the real Gordon stand up.

[00:17:32] Is it Mia?

[00:17:33] Is it Gordon?

[00:17:34] Right.

[00:17:35] Another thing that I thought was very interesting during day two of Panama, the ladies go to

[00:17:39] get, sit down for lunch and they order drinks or shots.

[00:17:44] And someone says to Karen, hey, you gonna have a drink?

[00:17:49] And Karen says no.

[00:17:50] And here's another reason why Jacqueline needs to get popped in her face because Jacqueline

[00:17:56] then says, well, you don't have to drive anywhere.

[00:17:59] And it's like, okay.

[00:18:00] And so Monday morning quarterbacking, we know Karen got convicted.

[00:18:05] We know she is potentially facing at the minimum two years of jail time.

[00:18:10] This whole season, Karen has been saying, I'm going through a legal process.

[00:18:15] I'm going to let the courts determine.

[00:18:17] I don't want to talk about it.

[00:18:20] She's not, not talking about it, but she is saying like.

[00:18:24] Let's just leave it alone.

[00:18:26] Right.

[00:18:26] And it's like Jacqueline wanting to be, oh, Jacqueline trying to.

[00:18:33] Jacqueline trying to get a spot.

[00:18:34] Yeah.

[00:18:36] You're trying to Marlo her way into this.

[00:18:38] Yes.

[00:18:40] Thank you.

[00:18:41] And so, yeah, I just.

[00:18:43] I.

[00:18:45] I've been wanting to root for Jacqueline, but like, yeah, come on, girl.

[00:18:48] You're going a little low.

[00:18:49] But what I did.

[00:18:50] Or what I did love about Karen's confessional was she was like, Karen was like, I'm not

[00:18:56] saying I'm sober.

[00:18:58] I'm just saying I'm not drinking with these hoes.

[00:19:02] Okay.

[00:19:02] Right.

[00:19:02] You got no love for me.

[00:19:04] So you can just like basically bring me again.

[00:19:08] No, like you done already tried to play me and sign on me and bring eight balloons to

[00:19:13] my house.

[00:19:14] And then, yeah, no, no, you're not trusted.

[00:19:18] What I also thought was interesting was at this lunch, I feel like Ashley did this to drive

[00:19:24] a point home.

[00:19:26] But while they were waiting for the drinks or dinner or lunch to come, Ashley's like,

[00:19:30] my kids are getting ready to be dropped off at Michael's.

[00:19:33] I need to take this call.

[00:19:36] Yes, you do.

[00:19:36] I need to show up as a present mom knowing when my kids are being transported and dropped

[00:19:41] off.

[00:19:42] I'll be back.

[00:19:43] I'll miss this little brunch to go take care of my kids.

[00:19:46] I said, Ashley clocked that.

[00:19:49] I clocked that to you, Ashley.

[00:19:51] Saw what you were doing.

[00:19:52] Saw what you did there.

[00:19:54] I agree with Ashley that I'm going to go outside and check on my kids.

[00:19:59] Look, you can't be too safe.

[00:20:01] Okay.

[00:20:02] Okay.

[00:20:03] Not with a Michael Darby.

[00:20:04] And then it was the ladies started imitating each other.

[00:20:08] Super fun.

[00:20:10] Then I guess the conversation kind of sort of comes up where I don't know if it's Giselle

[00:20:15] brings up to Jacqueline.

[00:20:16] They're like, Jacqueline, in the past, you've said that one of you and Mia have shared lovers

[00:20:24] and one of the-

[00:20:24] I don't even know how that came up, but aren't we glad it did?

[00:20:30] And if I remember correctly, it was last year on the girls' trip where Mia was saying to

[00:20:34] somebody that like she had a lover so good that she had to have Jacqueline try it to

[00:20:41] make sure that she wasn't crazy.

[00:20:43] Don't you hate when that happens?

[00:20:44] Like when you have a lover so good that you have to be like, I hate friends.

[00:20:48] Can you confirm for me?

[00:20:49] Like, oh my gosh.

[00:20:52] That happens like all the time.

[00:20:55] No.

[00:20:55] What I thought was so interesting was that they both got amnesia.

[00:20:59] Like, oh, that was a long time ago.

[00:21:00] I don't know.

[00:21:01] And then all of a sudden Mia comes to clarify that.

[00:21:05] No, it wasn't ink.

[00:21:08] No, no.

[00:21:08] Jacqueline actually came out and said it was ink.

[00:21:11] And then Mia said it wasn't ink.

[00:21:13] Then Mia said it was ink's best friend.

[00:21:17] However, ink may have experienced some oral rag fixation from Mia because they had all

[00:21:26] taken a shower together.

[00:21:28] I was like, that sounded real.

[00:21:31] Ew.

[00:21:32] So, so what happened was in a four-way, he might've got some, some juice on him.

[00:21:39] It's giving, what's your pH balance, Mia?

[00:21:42] Okay.

[00:21:42] Like what's going on here?

[00:21:44] It's a lot.

[00:21:45] Like that, that.

[00:21:46] I was doing a shower and it was some cross contamination.

[00:21:52] Whatever.

[00:21:53] I look again, I want to stick my fingers in my ears and, and, and just shout.

[00:21:58] Cause I'm like, I don't, I don't want to know.

[00:22:00] Just stop talking.

[00:22:01] Just stop talking.

[00:22:03] It just, here's the thing in the past, right?

[00:22:07] These are the type of stories and honesty that I love from Mia, right?

[00:22:11] Because we have a lot of the women that would never share things of this nature.

[00:22:17] So it's like, that's where Mia was a breath of fresh air.

[00:22:20] However, I feel like specifically with this season, the ink, the warden, your kids, your

[00:22:28] this, your that is, I'm not saying that she's an unfit mother.

[00:22:32] Cause I would never put that on anybody, but I'm just saying like, we'll all be like.

[00:22:35] Yeah.

[00:22:36] Look, when everybody was sane and in working relationships, it was funny and easy breezy.

[00:22:44] Now that people are mentally ill and relationships are breaking down and it's not all consensual,

[00:22:50] you know, like.

[00:22:51] How mentally ill are they?

[00:22:53] I don't, it depends on the episode or where you at in the episode.

[00:22:59] So, you know, so like, it depends on where you at in the episode, but you know, it's

[00:23:04] like, it's not fun.

[00:23:05] It's, you know, if, if it's like breaking up families and mental illness, like, I don't

[00:23:10] want to hear that.

[00:23:11] And it just almost for me, I like Mia.

[00:23:14] I like Gordon for me.

[00:23:16] And I'm just being honest as a viewer of this show, it almost is giving, you are creating

[00:23:22] a storyline for us viewers.

[00:23:24] Like, it just, there's just so much, it's just so much girl.

[00:23:29] And it's like, baby, last season you sat first seat at the reunion, like your honesty, your

[00:23:36] realness, we loved it.

[00:23:38] And I feel like maybe potentially the pressure of.

[00:23:42] Trying to keep it up.

[00:23:45] Right.

[00:23:45] It's, it's like created this storyline.

[00:23:49] So I will tell you like the, the parallel for me is like Ashley, right?

[00:23:53] So remember how, when she was talking about her and, you know, her bisexuality and her

[00:24:00] and Michael having three sons, it was all loosey goosey and fun.

[00:24:03] But then when he was getting caught in hotel rooms.

[00:24:05] On the grind up.

[00:24:07] Right.

[00:24:07] With names.

[00:24:09] Right.

[00:24:10] It wasn't cute.

[00:24:11] So, you know, I, it, it changes perspectives when he getting caught in hotel rooms alone

[00:24:16] and, um, you know, saying, um, you know, pushing up on Juan Dixon and stuff like that.

[00:24:22] It's not, it's not as cute.

[00:24:23] Right.

[00:24:23] I believe Robin Dixon said that she heard that Michael said that he would Juan Dixon's.

[00:24:32] But anyway, that's just what Robin allegedly heard.

[00:24:36] At this dinner, another interesting subject that came up was the first time that we actually

[00:24:42] really got detailed was Kiana bringing up her lawsuit to Debra and that she is moving forward

[00:24:50] with suing Debra.

[00:24:53] Yeah.

[00:24:54] Ashley's old friend and not just criminally.

[00:24:56] She said, well, the police, that was criminal when the police showed up, they were going to

[00:25:00] file charges anyway, but she's going after her civilly.

[00:25:03] The one of the ladies, I believe Giselle says, well, she doesn't have any money.

[00:25:06] And Kiana says that's, that's for her cat, her boyfriend, her husband, God to decide,

[00:25:12] but she's moving forward.

[00:25:14] What's your thoughts on that?

[00:25:16] Uh, y'all should have known she was going to sue that lady when she, uh, yelled at y'all

[00:25:20] not to bring up her scar on her forehead, honey.

[00:25:22] She was serious.

[00:25:23] Okay.

[00:25:24] And, um, so I heard it's like in the contract that housewives cannot sue each other, but

[00:25:29] you can sue friends.

[00:25:30] So let it be known.

[00:25:32] Friends, because two friends, because Kiana and Debra last season were friend of the shows.

[00:25:38] Keep playing Jacqueline.

[00:25:39] That's why your ass, uh, getting sued by Karen.

[00:25:41] Thank you.

[00:25:42] Like, keep playing, keep starting, trying to be on the show.

[00:25:45] Mm-hmm.

[00:25:46] Yeah.

[00:25:47] It's, it's, um, consequences.

[00:25:49] Right.

[00:25:49] So that's why Karen was talking about suing old girl.

[00:25:53] Like, yeah, you can't be running up on people acting like it's all good.

[00:25:56] Like, these people have real ass lives.

[00:25:59] Okay.

[00:26:00] So don't, don't do that.

[00:26:01] Don't be sweating for the show thinking, oh, it's, it's all fun and games.

[00:26:05] No.

[00:26:05] You did come on somebody's property.

[00:26:07] You did trespass.

[00:26:09] FYI.

[00:26:09] Just in case you didn't.

[00:26:10] Well, girl, no, I'm not.

[00:26:12] Girl, not.

[00:26:13] She did trespass.

[00:26:15] I mean, yeah, but is it really trespassing when you're a part of the production and the

[00:26:18] production is filming at the house?

[00:26:20] Like, I'm not going to go into the minutiae.

[00:26:22] No.

[00:26:23] She wasn't invited.

[00:26:26] She wasn't invited.

[00:26:29] I'd like to speak to her.

[00:26:30] You can't just roll up.

[00:26:31] I'd like to speak to the owner of the home.

[00:26:35] That's Karen.

[00:26:36] She wasn't invited.

[00:26:37] No, that's not Karen or Ray.

[00:26:39] If you're, but if you're renting the house, you have a, shut up.

[00:26:42] You have a legal agreement.

[00:26:45] So I'm not getting into Jacqueline's legal, but no, uh, Kiarna definitely should be suing

[00:26:51] Deborah.

[00:26:52] Uh.

[00:26:52] Uh, absolutely.

[00:26:53] The last interesting thing that I thought was brought up was again at the table.

[00:26:59] Uh, Jacqueline brought up how Mia and Ashley got into it essentially over Giselle's girls

[00:27:04] and Giselle brings up to the table to Mia.

[00:27:07] Like when the cameras went down, you wanted to apologize to me about the things that you

[00:27:15] said about my girls.

[00:27:16] And it was brought to my attention that when we were filming, you double down.

[00:27:21] Like what's the tea on that?

[00:27:25] And again, just even Giselle and bringing that into the episode this week, it really is giving

[00:27:30] like, Mia, are you like me?

[00:27:33] Are you trying to co-produce the season?

[00:27:35] Are you trying to produce storylines?

[00:27:37] Because that's crazy, Mia.

[00:27:39] Yeah.

[00:27:40] Yeah.

[00:27:40] Yeah.

[00:27:40] I think she was wrong.

[00:27:42] I don't know what she was trying to do by bringing that up about her girls.

[00:27:45] Like, what were you trying to do?

[00:27:47] Just trying to get back.

[00:27:48] Oh, saying you trying to be messy about my life when your life is messy.

[00:27:52] Everybody's life is messy.

[00:27:53] So you trying to do tip for that.

[00:27:55] That wasn't necessary to bring that up about her girl.

[00:27:58] But why wouldn't you apologize on camera?

[00:28:00] Like you brought it up on camera.

[00:28:01] That to me is telling me that, oh, okay.

[00:28:04] You want to stir the pot for the show, Mia.

[00:28:08] I agree.

[00:28:09] I agree.

[00:28:10] So like, she should apologize on camera.

[00:28:13] Like, and I think that would have made for better optics for her, for better storyline.

[00:28:18] Like, you should be able to, I do, because like, you can be forgiving.

[00:28:22] Because now you look like you a crazy person.

[00:28:25] Like, you should be, that's the thing.

[00:28:27] We love to see them argue, but we also love to see them get back together.

[00:28:33] Like, isn't that true?

[00:28:34] Like, even with Wendy, right?

[00:28:36] Remember Wendy and Ashley, they went at it, they went at it, they went at it.

[00:28:40] But they was also partying and flashing body parts, right?

[00:28:44] We love, we love a good reconciliation, right?

[00:28:47] Because how can we move forward in y'all's party, you know, like if y'all are not willing to bury the hatchet?

[00:28:53] We want to see you argue.

[00:28:54] We want to see you bury the hatchet.

[00:28:56] I think she's missing that part of it.

[00:29:00] Yeah, I definitely think so as well.

[00:29:02] I think she is just kind of seeing the havoc of last season when the season ended.

[00:29:09] And then she broke the news on her Instagram that her and Inc were together.

[00:29:14] Then cameras went back up.

[00:29:15] They shot extra scenes to get her and Gordon.

[00:29:18] I think that she's still in that light of the more chaotic.

[00:29:23] It doesn't have to be real.

[00:29:24] If I can create this, it will be great for the TV.

[00:29:27] And a part of that is true, but there's a fine line of performance.

[00:29:34] And she needs to pull it back.

[00:29:35] Right, a lot.

[00:29:37] And all of the girls are clocking it.

[00:29:40] All of us viewers are clocking it.

[00:29:42] And then for you on New Year's Eve to post a photo of this, like, it's like, girl, your tea is done.

[00:29:49] And I almost, I hate to say this.

[00:29:51] And you need to get something else.

[00:29:52] You need to get something else.

[00:29:53] I mean, here's the thing.

[00:29:55] After a season like this, a stunt season like this, I wouldn't be mad if season 10 Mia wasn't even here.

[00:30:03] Because it's giving too much.

[00:30:06] But I do love Mia.

[00:30:07] And I hate that I say that.

[00:30:08] But just, what's real and what's fake?

[00:30:10] Like, let's be real.

[00:30:12] Like, I wish I got.

[00:30:12] She needs to go beyond being a one-trick pony.

[00:30:16] And she needs to expand her.

[00:30:18] So, look, she needs to get some candles or something.

[00:30:20] That's what she needs.

[00:30:21] She needs something.

[00:30:22] Because it has to move beyond that.

[00:30:24] It's hurting her family.

[00:30:26] And it just looks ridiculous.

[00:30:28] And she needs to move on.

[00:30:31] Because we never know.

[00:30:32] Season 10, Candace might be ready to show her kids.

[00:30:35] Okay?

[00:30:35] We got Stacey and Keanu.

[00:30:37] Okay?

[00:30:38] She might have lost that weight now.

[00:30:41] Because, you know, she might have that crying already, baby.

[00:30:47] And, you know, be snatched and ready to have a new single.

[00:30:51] She might be ready to drive forward.

[00:30:53] She done drove back.

[00:30:55] So, now she, you know, she might be ready to drive forward.

[00:30:59] She's ready to go.

[00:31:00] You never know.

[00:31:01] Listen, Katie might be ready to be a friend of the show again.

[00:31:03] Listen, we got people that can do something.

[00:31:07] But, yeah, I don't like this potentially manufactured drama.

[00:31:14] I'm ready for her.

[00:31:15] I'm ready for Jacqueline.

[00:31:17] I'm ready for Ink.

[00:31:18] I'm ready for Jordan.

[00:31:21] What's his name?

[00:31:22] What's her husband's name?

[00:31:24] Gordon.

[00:31:25] Gordon, Jordan.

[00:31:26] Whatever.

[00:31:26] I'm ready for all of them.

[00:31:27] Gordon can stay.

[00:31:28] I'm ready for him to take the fair, the playground, whatever.

[00:31:33] Like, he didn't have the best line out of all of them.

[00:31:36] But I'm ready for all of them to get together and heal and take some time off.

[00:31:41] I agree.

[00:31:43] Well, I take some time off.

[00:31:46] We did.

[00:31:46] I hope everyone had a happy and safe holiday.

[00:31:48] I hope this new year you are taking time for yourself.

[00:31:52] JT, I'm so happy to be covering the Potomac with you.

[00:31:56] This is going to be our coverage of episode 13.

[00:31:59] We'll be back in two weeks covering episode 14 and 15.

[00:32:04] Yes.

[00:32:05] We'll see you soon.

[00:32:08] Happy New Year.

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