Purple Pants Podcast | It Liz what it Liz!

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[00:01:15] We are back covering Survivor Season 46 Episode 10 and bae bae, we have a lot

[00:01:22] to talk about.

[00:01:23] So I'm so excited to be joined by Jack Atkins, Wendell Holland and our Brice and

[00:01:29] Wynne Present Instagram contributor Tim Bridgman is joining us this week to break down all

[00:01:35] of what episode 10 was.

[00:01:38] So listen, let's get in to this week's Survivor News.

[00:01:55] What's going on?

[00:02:11] We are back this week with your Survivor News covering Season 46 Episode 10.

[00:02:18] I am pissed.

[00:02:19] We have an episode that we need to get into.

[00:02:23] So let's introduce we have the contestant from the circle of Season 2.

[00:02:29] You might know him as Emily, but you'll know him as Jackery Atkins was popping

[00:02:33] Jack.

[00:02:34] I mean another great episode and I can't I don't even want to say anything more

[00:02:39] right now because I'm just excited to get in there.

[00:02:40] So listen, listen, if you have Amazon Prime, then you already know Season 1 Episode

[00:02:49] of Amazon Prime.

[00:02:50] The GOAT is available and you can see how much Wendeezy loves Survivor.

[00:02:55] Let's welcome winners at war.

[00:02:57] Wendeezy the first merged boot, but also competing for the GOAT.

[00:03:03] Welcome to the podcast.

[00:03:04] Good to be here.

[00:03:05] GOAT episode one is out now on YouTube.

[00:03:06] True on YouTube on Prime videos YouTube, but then it will be on Prime video May

[00:03:17] 9th that's in like a week.

[00:03:18] So go check it out.

[00:03:19] Are you going to be talking about it?

[00:03:22] Yeah, you know what?

[00:03:24] I think we're going to do some GOAT coverage will definitely be me and a good

[00:03:28] friend of mine one of my best friends in the world another Philadelphia

[00:03:31] another reality TV person Derek Frazier is going to be covering the GOAT with

[00:03:36] me along with his sidekick Bryce Isaiah.

[00:03:39] Yes.

[00:03:40] Oh, you'll have to stay tuned for more information about that.

[00:03:43] And we have a special guest.

[00:03:44] If you've been following the Bryce and when present Instagram page, we have soon to be

[00:03:50] Dr. Timmy Bridges on the podcast this week.

[00:03:53] Welcome Tim.

[00:03:54] How are you?

[00:03:55] I'm good.

[00:03:56] Good to be here.

[00:03:57] Good to see y'all like I'm ready to get into the episode.

[00:03:59] I have a lot of thoughts as always.

[00:04:02] So yeah, it's excited to have you here.

[00:04:05] Make sure you are following Bryce and when present on Instagram every Sunday, you

[00:04:08] can hear Tim's take on what is happening this episode in the season, but you're going

[00:04:14] to hear his take today before we get into the episode is so much to cover next week.

[00:04:19] We will be in Boston for the BWP tour.

[00:04:21] Forty six.

[00:04:22] Boston is shaping up to be an amazing, amazing, amazing time.

[00:04:26] So if you haven't got your tickets, head over to the Bryce and when present

[00:04:30] Instagram or Twitter, click the link and bless your life.

[00:04:33] Then the spring ultimate.

[00:04:35] What is Philadelphia one deal and ultimate the pen ultimate until the finale,

[00:04:40] the finale warm up Philadelphia May 15th.

[00:04:43] We are coming home for what is sure to be an epic, epic, epic episode and episode alone.

[00:04:52] I heard the surprise of the surprise of the the the guest that might come to Philadelphia

[00:04:58] is going to be off.

[00:05:01] I don't want to age myself, but the chains at all things are leading to May 22nd.

[00:05:10] The New York finale of the BWP.

[00:05:13] But baby, it is not a finale.

[00:05:15] It is the Bryce and when festival is coming to New York, we have multiple days of events.

[00:05:22] We have some brunches.

[00:05:24] We have some panels.

[00:05:25] We have some welcome parties, a lot to take in.

[00:05:29] So if you are in the New York area, if you've never been, make this your reason

[00:05:34] to be in the New York area for the Bryce and when finale festival tickets are

[00:05:39] available, click the link in the Bryce and when present Instagram file so much to get into.

[00:05:46] I mean, like, do we just jump on in, Jackery, take it away.

[00:05:52] Man, so I want to before we get into the episode, I wanted to make a bookmark that

[00:05:57] I want to circle back and talk season 50 at the end of the baby.

[00:06:03] That's that's the street.

[00:06:06] But this episode was so hot and spicy that I feel like I want to save that conversation

[00:06:12] for later, because Bryce, before you even introduced us, you said, I'm pissed.

[00:06:18] What's got you? What's got you pissed off, right?

[00:06:21] What were your thoughts? Let's just hop into it.

[00:06:24] We just go right in, Jack.

[00:06:26] We'll go. I mean, it's Applebee's happy hour.

[00:06:30] We're going straight for the half price apps, getting ourselves a blue shark

[00:06:34] and let's just talk about the reward challenge.

[00:06:37] Tread lightly, gentlemen, tread lightly.

[00:06:40] So, I mean, I happen to play Survivor.

[00:06:46] I was out there for 11 to 13 days.

[00:06:49] I was hungry when DZ you played twice.

[00:06:52] You actually made it to the 39 days.

[00:06:54] And then I think the other time was 36.

[00:06:57] But go ahead. 36, 36.

[00:06:59] That's not bad. How many how many days are on the first merge booth?

[00:07:06] But then you want to decipher that question for me.

[00:07:08] Can someone translate that for me?

[00:07:10] How you were you played twice. Were you hungry?

[00:07:14] Yes, I was hungry when you signed up for Survivor. Oh, oh.

[00:07:21] Or, you know, when you signed up for Survivor,

[00:07:24] what are some of the things that you expect?

[00:07:28] I expect to be hungry on Survivor.

[00:07:31] I expected not not eat.

[00:07:33] You know, you're signing up for a game.

[00:07:36] That you see people lose a lot of weight out there.

[00:07:39] And, you know, you you go into the game

[00:07:41] carrying the baggage that you go in carrying.

[00:07:44] So if I have like certain food restrictions or allergies,

[00:07:48] I have to understand that

[00:07:50] there might be even less of whatever I can eat out on this island.

[00:07:54] That's what I got. That's what I got.

[00:07:57] Tim Jack, you guys are hopeful future Survivor players.

[00:08:02] Are there any expectations you have when you

[00:08:05] eventually get on the island?

[00:08:07] Yeah, I know already going into it that it's Survivor.

[00:08:11] We're on the island.

[00:08:12] It's not going to be

[00:08:14] an Applebee's right down the street from the beach where we're having our camp.

[00:08:19] So we got to make do with what we have.

[00:08:21] And if that looks like just rice, it looks like just rice.

[00:08:27] Jack. Oh, I mean, I I was pretty hungry in the circle.

[00:08:31] You can do it yourself.

[00:08:34] I don't really know how to do that, but, um, yeah, I would expect to be hungry.

[00:08:40] I would also expect, hey, if I have allergies

[00:08:42] and there's people providing for me like a Tevin and a hunter,

[00:08:46] maybe I don't mess around and vote them out.

[00:08:49] Also, would maybe say, hey, I got fishing gear.

[00:08:52] There's an ocean right there. I could go try that out.

[00:08:55] But no. OK, look,

[00:08:57] because I don't even want to dance around it

[00:08:59] because I think there's a lot of elements here.

[00:09:02] I think Liz has every right to be to be hangry.

[00:09:05] And I think that her allergies are

[00:09:08] a big difference to what maybe the average player is experiencing.

[00:09:11] Granted, they're hungry.

[00:09:12] But if it's true, like she said, she's had zero calories since the merge.

[00:09:16] She hasn't consumed anything. Right.

[00:09:19] I think it's valid to be hangry.

[00:09:20] But for me, when you're having those

[00:09:24] intense emotions and you're putting them out and direct them

[00:09:27] and at specific people, it needs to be grounded in sort of some sort of logic.

[00:09:31] Like if someone was really giving you a hard time

[00:09:33] or maybe pushing you around or bullying you.

[00:09:36] And that comes out when you're hangry.

[00:09:38] I can respect that for me.

[00:09:39] The issue is, I don't feel like Liz's anger and frustration

[00:09:44] while it's justified from a emotional standpoint of being very hungry.

[00:09:49] I don't think it's justified from a logical standpoint as to why.

[00:09:52] And obviously the point that you mentioned about sort of what to expect

[00:09:55] when you come out on Survivor, of course, she knows she has all these allergies.

[00:09:59] Now, I wouldn't tell Liz, hey,

[00:10:00] you know, you have all these allergies.

[00:10:01] Don't even bother going on Survivor.

[00:10:02] Right. Like you want to go try that experience out.

[00:10:05] But for me, I think the big issue is like

[00:10:08] at the end of the day, Q doesn't owe her anything.

[00:10:10] Right. And you have this this this ritual with your daughter,

[00:10:15] which is super cool, but you have every right to go into that challenge

[00:10:18] and try to win it.

[00:10:19] And if you win it, we know you're not going to take Q.

[00:10:21] We know that you've just like you said, he shut it all down.

[00:10:25] She voted for him last time.

[00:10:27] So it's a game for a million dollars.

[00:10:29] He needs to make a decision for him,

[00:10:31] whether it's the people that he wants to bond with or the people

[00:10:34] that he wants to get fed or even the people he doesn't want to feed.

[00:10:38] He needs to make a decision that's best for his game.

[00:10:41] So he doesn't owe it to you to bring you along.

[00:10:45] And then the other thing.

[00:10:46] So and I've seen a lot of people talk about that.

[00:10:48] Right. And then the other thing,

[00:10:49] the thing that really stuck out to me that I haven't seen talk about

[00:10:51] as much is how she rips into him for ruining her game

[00:10:56] and overshadowing her move.

[00:10:58] Again, I haven't been on Survivor, but as far as I know,

[00:11:01] just from talking to you guys, it's not anyone's job

[00:11:04] to go out of their way to make someone else's move look good

[00:11:07] or to give them the spotlight. Right.

[00:11:09] It's if you make a move, it's not my job to be like, oh, my God,

[00:11:13] Bryce, you made a move and it was great.

[00:11:15] So I'm just going to take the back seat again.

[00:11:17] And on top of that, it's sort of like this.

[00:11:20] My last thing is so much talk about the law

[00:11:22] for what I talked about last week of like

[00:11:25] harping on the fact that someone ruined your game is sort of a self

[00:11:29] fulfilling prophecy of like you're saying your own game is over. Right.

[00:11:33] So if I'm on the jury and I hear about you talking about,

[00:11:36] oh, my game is ruined, like essentially I can't win.

[00:11:39] I'm not going to want to vote for you in the end.

[00:11:41] Really, what you need to do is take what happened there

[00:11:44] and flip it and make it a comeback story.

[00:11:47] Not to mention what I said last week about I actually think

[00:11:49] Q overshadowing her move was a good thing for her game

[00:11:52] because it hides a big move that's still on her resume

[00:11:55] when she gets to the final three.

[00:11:56] So for all those reasons, I thought it was whack.

[00:12:00] So we need to splice in the ether beat with all of that.

[00:12:03] OK, right. Right.

[00:12:05] Because let me just take it a step further.

[00:12:08] Right. For me, Jack, respectfully, I can understand the ritual

[00:12:11] that you have with your daughter and that emotion that it brings.

[00:12:13] And it's like, oh, my God, like I want to be connected with my daughter.

[00:12:16] This is what we do at Applebee's. But I have to be honest.

[00:12:19] I do not know Liz and like I am excited to meet her.

[00:12:23] I'm sure that she is wonderful for me.

[00:12:27] As a person of color watching this,

[00:12:31] I would be remiss if I did not say it was the privilege

[00:12:37] exuded made me a little uncomfortable.

[00:12:39] Like it was just as if like he was supposed to take her

[00:12:43] because her or her daughter did this because she hadn't eaten.

[00:12:47] Like it was just that like assumption that like he has to do this.

[00:12:51] And because he did, she's mad.

[00:12:53] Like for me, that was just like, oh, like entitlement. Yeah.

[00:12:59] On top of that, I saw today that in the pre in her pregame press,

[00:13:04] she was being asked about, oh, you have all these allergies.

[00:13:06] Like what's your plan to eat?

[00:13:08] And she's like, you know, have being allergic to a lot of things.

[00:13:10] I'm used to sort of being short on food or having to make do.

[00:13:14] So she said that that she's going to thrive with that in the game.

[00:13:17] And she said that she was excited to watch her fellow castmates

[00:13:20] struggle and get emotional about something along these lines of struggling

[00:13:24] and getting emotional about the fact that they don't have food.

[00:13:27] So the fact that at one point you were excited to watch everyone else struggle

[00:13:30] and now you're struggling and there's this whole.

[00:13:34] My nature of it, it's like, well, you know,

[00:13:38] if you were excited to watch someone else struggle, then

[00:13:42] I'm not that sympathetic.

[00:13:44] And then it just it begs the point, like,

[00:13:47] so Q should dim his light.

[00:13:54] See, you know, like, like it just for me, it just it was a lot of

[00:13:59] uncomfortable themes coming out.

[00:14:01] And again, I'm not saying that that's intentionally what happened.

[00:14:04] I'm just saying, like for me, like, again, like you're mad at Q for over

[00:14:09] shit like Q is Q. OK, Q over.

[00:14:13] When do we know?

[00:14:14] When he approached Q and I, Wendell and I were just on the stage

[00:14:18] with Q is in Chicago and baby Q over shadow.

[00:14:24] He jumped over the stage.

[00:14:26] He jumped over the stage.

[00:14:29] So again, it's this like,

[00:14:35] I don't know, because and I want to be respectful, right?

[00:14:38] Like, and I understand we weren't out there.

[00:14:39] I can I like there are a lot of things at play.

[00:14:42] But what resonated over the TV was like, he was supposed to do this.

[00:14:47] Like, like, you like, I don't know.

[00:14:49] It just was like a little like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[00:14:52] Yeah. And I think even when I heard the lines along,

[00:14:56] you know, Q, you blew up my spot.

[00:14:58] I'm thinking, did Q really blow up your whole game at this point?

[00:15:01] Like, at some point, your game is

[00:15:05] happening before Q did what he did is happening after Q did what he did.

[00:15:11] It seems like at some point, you have to take

[00:15:13] their responsibility for yourself and kind of

[00:15:16] take what you have and go with, you know, what you can do in the future.

[00:15:21] So and Q has a track record of blowing up games like this is his M.O.

[00:15:26] So like he blew up what?

[00:15:28] Like, you know, all right, this is what he does.

[00:15:31] So now let's work around it like, all right, he's going to blow up your game.

[00:15:35] But Liz, I'm willing to bet that there are some other people out there

[00:15:39] that are in front of you on the list of who's going to get voted out.

[00:15:42] So like, find a way to to maneuver now.

[00:15:46] Yeah, I think that's a great point, too, is like.

[00:15:50] It's survivor, nobody, nobody owes it to you to help your game out

[00:15:54] or to like not blow up your spot.

[00:15:56] The whole point of survival is to blow up,

[00:15:57] like to blow up everyone's spot to vote them out.

[00:16:00] And so that reminds me a lot of even in my experience on the circle,

[00:16:03] having people where they go home and then at the end of the day,

[00:16:08] they're bitter because they're like, oh, so and so messed up my game.

[00:16:10] It's like, yeah, because we're playing our own game.

[00:16:14] And that never makes sense to me.

[00:16:16] Like you said, Tim, that's the epitome of is like it's self accountability

[00:16:20] because no one else is on a game for a million dollars.

[00:16:22] No one else is going to go out of their way to like look out for you.

[00:16:25] At least they shouldn't be expected to.

[00:16:29] And so, yeah, I think that's really hits the nail on the head

[00:16:31] of why it's so annoying.

[00:16:33] And then. Another thing that like just rubbed me the wrong way

[00:16:38] was the day after when they get back and Charlie and Ben are asking Tiffany,

[00:16:48] how was your experience like again?

[00:16:50] And like and she's Liz is like, read the room like,

[00:16:55] but actually it's like, no, you read the room.

[00:16:57] So they should not talk about that, like their once in a lifetime

[00:17:01] experience, although it's like, I don't know.

[00:17:03] It just again was this this and I am Liz at times.

[00:17:08] So I like I understand where she's coming from.

[00:17:11] But also as a viewer, it's like so Tiffany, Q, Dr.

[00:17:18] Maria and Kinsey, they got to not talk about they great experience.

[00:17:24] Like, sorry, that didn't happen to you.

[00:17:26] That's like. So Jam shouldn't talk to

[00:17:31] Carson and Carolyn because he was like, you know what I mean?

[00:17:35] It's just but in the moment I get to play.

[00:17:38] Now, I also have a question

[00:17:41] at Winners at War, did a handsome, talented,

[00:17:52] attractive older gentleman by the name of Wendell Holland Senior,

[00:17:56] did he go on that island? Yes.

[00:18:01] Did you. Get time with him

[00:18:04] or did he have to go?

[00:18:07] I got time with him.

[00:18:09] Did other people stay like other people won something that he could

[00:18:12] like that they could stay, correct?

[00:18:18] Oh, what is that war?

[00:18:20] Winners at War or was it Ghost Island?

[00:18:22] He came to both, but when is that war?

[00:18:24] We're on the edge.

[00:18:26] So he was on edge with you.

[00:18:27] So on Ghost Island.

[00:18:28] Yes. Did did he not sacrifice something?

[00:18:33] You gave up your spot so you could go to Ghost Island in that episode.

[00:18:36] Right. Yeah.

[00:18:37] So I had five minutes with him.

[00:18:38] He gave me a hug.

[00:18:40] And then at the end, when Sebastian won

[00:18:43] and he picked me to go with him with senior and, you know, other people,

[00:18:47] Jeff said, hey, one of y'all can leave and go to go silent right now.

[00:18:50] And I was like, that'll be me.

[00:18:52] And senior was like, you better go.

[00:18:55] So I went so I had a couple of minutes with senior.

[00:18:58] And I was out.

[00:19:02] You draw in a point sort of dots.

[00:19:03] I'm trying to connect.

[00:19:04] I'm not. So explain it to me, please.

[00:19:07] I'm just going on.

[00:19:08] I'm just saying you sacrificed

[00:19:14] your dad that flew out there to be with you for what?

[00:19:20] The betterment of the game.

[00:19:22] And this is my father.

[00:19:25] This is an Applebee sandwich.

[00:19:27] And people think we're trying to see windows.

[00:19:31] Oh, hey, Brian. Sorry.

[00:19:34] Thank senior. Shut up.

[00:19:36] But but do you

[00:19:39] does that make sense at all?

[00:19:40] Like, you know what I mean?

[00:19:41] Like, it's like, yeah.

[00:19:42] But we're on the same page.

[00:19:44] But I do want to say, like, being that calorie deprived,

[00:19:49] you know, people have done worse.

[00:19:52] In better shape, so I don't want to hold that as the only thing against Liz.

[00:19:57] But in that moment, at first, it was like.

[00:20:01] Because I was really sitting there, watching, I was like,

[00:20:04] John was off and then thinking about it more.

[00:20:06] It's like, you don't really have a right to do all this like.

[00:20:10] With that being said, though, thank God she did.

[00:20:15] It's great TV. I will lie.

[00:20:18] I was sitting there shocked.

[00:20:21] My big back self was eating a sandwich and I literally was like,

[00:20:27] you want this?

[00:20:28] But it has sandwich.

[00:20:31] Like it was great TV.

[00:20:33] And again, what I will say is I'm grateful for Liz's right.

[00:20:37] Because low key.

[00:20:41] Call me hypocritical, but I'm tired of the people that just be there like.

[00:20:50] No, I'm all right.

[00:20:50] I'm all right. I want to eat.

[00:20:53] No, I'm pissed because it was TJ on Fridays

[00:20:58] and the Jack Daniel sauce.

[00:21:00] And if you know, you know about TJ on Friday, Jack Daniel sauce.

[00:21:05] I'll be pissed.

[00:21:06] OK, I feel you on that Bryce.

[00:21:08] If it's Chili's and they tell me it's a triple dipper

[00:21:11] and I don't get picked.

[00:21:14] If I'm pissed and they got the one dollar margaritas

[00:21:17] because you remember doing a cold when Chili's did that.

[00:21:21] They bagged and they wasn't the water down margaritas.

[00:21:24] I'll be pissed too.

[00:21:26] So although it made me uncomfortable, I

[00:21:31] I'm glad that like we had that moment, right?

[00:21:33] Because it's like.

[00:21:35] You get to see people and it's like sometimes I don't want to see people

[00:21:38] just doing the same thing and just sitting there like,

[00:21:41] I may actually speak up and like say your point, but it just like

[00:21:45] it just begged the question.

[00:21:49] That's a great point, because because it's like we're not

[00:21:53] I don't think anyone's mad with that expression of emotion.

[00:21:55] And like her being angry.

[00:21:58] But like we said earlier, it's not about the emotion.

[00:22:01] It's about why, like how are you directing this?

[00:22:04] And then it's at Q for a reason that is not really justified.

[00:22:08] And listen, Q will give you reasons.

[00:22:12] Exactly.

[00:22:14] He will give you a multitude of reasons to be mad at him.

[00:22:19] It's just like.

[00:22:21] You got to pick the right one.

[00:22:23] Right. You got to pick the right one, sis.

[00:22:24] You just picked the wrong one.

[00:22:26] Now you can have a million other reasons.

[00:22:28] Now, also what took me out about Liz

[00:22:33] when they all were just at camp

[00:22:37] and all of a sudden you heard

[00:22:41] and everybody was like.

[00:22:43] And of course, it would be Mother Venus to be like as Liz.

[00:22:49] The fact that like everyone was like, oh, OK, no one went to go look.

[00:22:53] No one went to see if she was OK.

[00:22:55] They were like, that's Liz.

[00:22:57] So that was so funny during the challenge during the outburst

[00:23:00] when Venus went took a step to go and then and then she was like

[00:23:08] never mind. Yeah, smart.

[00:23:11] Now, what what I did, what I did here

[00:23:16] was that and while I was watching,

[00:23:18] I'm sure you guys were thinking the same thing like, all right,

[00:23:20] which one of these people is going to be the nice person

[00:23:23] to say, oh, you can take my spot.

[00:23:25] And I was just waiting for Kenzie or someone to say it.

[00:23:28] We didn't see anyone say it.

[00:23:29] But apparently both Kenzie and Maria volunteered their spots

[00:23:34] to Liz and Q vetoed it.

[00:23:38] He was like, no.

[00:23:40] And I'm not mad at that, though, like if you just put in a vote

[00:23:45] on me the night before and my and not you actually say

[00:23:51] like you voted for me yesterday.

[00:23:54] Chili's cancel.

[00:23:57] I want to be I wonder if the volunteering was actually after

[00:24:01] before the outburst, especially if it's after.

[00:24:05] Of course, Q is going to be like, well, you just

[00:24:09] like screamed at me.

[00:24:11] Why would I want to go enjoy my Applebee's with you around?

[00:24:15] Like, yeah, and that's the thing for if I'm Q.

[00:24:17] And this is kind of devious, but it's sort of like

[00:24:21] it's sort of like I hope you're hungry.

[00:24:23] Like the hungrier you are, the more out of the game you're going to be.

[00:24:27] You might even go you might even just believe like that's good for me.

[00:24:30] So again, like there's some level of compassion, of course.

[00:24:34] And what we usually see is that that unity, that survivor family,

[00:24:37] like on Survivor 45, even there was a lot of like, you know,

[00:24:41] Emily hasn't been on reward and for rewards, like I'm going to take Emily

[00:24:45] with me, which is honestly the nice thing to do.

[00:24:47] But I kind of for entertainment purposes, it's kind of fun to be like

[00:24:51] I don't mess with you. So you're not getting this reward.

[00:24:55] Yeah. Q's amazing.

[00:24:57] And it's just like that infuriates me.

[00:24:59] I fire people every day.

[00:25:01] They storm out of my office.

[00:25:03] I'm like, well, thank you.

[00:25:08] I do have a question for you.

[00:25:11] Do you think the individual rice

[00:25:15] was like built in for Liz because she hasn't been eating?

[00:25:19] Because we don't normally see that in the negotiation style

[00:25:22] of Jeffrey when he's like if four to three people step up,

[00:25:26] we can negotiate for this bag of rice.

[00:25:29] Do you feel like they did that specifically for her

[00:25:31] since she has had zero calories?

[00:25:35] Yeah, definitely think so.

[00:25:36] At that point, we already didn't get the rice

[00:25:39] when it came to the negotiation earlier in the game.

[00:25:43] We weren't going to get the same for people

[00:25:46] to sit out for a challenge this time around, especially at eight.

[00:25:50] So here you go, Liz.

[00:25:52] Here's your own state of the art name brand.

[00:25:57] Liz Applebee's rice specifically here for you.

[00:26:00] And I think it was kind of good because it gave her the option

[00:26:03] to step out of the challenge if she really, really needed the rice

[00:26:08] and take it in. That is what she ended up doing.

[00:26:12] From a medical standpoint,

[00:26:16] Wendy Z, what do you think like

[00:26:21] because survivor isn't going to let us die out there.

[00:26:26] Correct. So so we hope.

[00:26:29] What do you see a question there?

[00:26:31] Like are you as you said, from a medical standpoint,

[00:26:34] I still don't know why you're asking me.

[00:26:36] What's like the amount of days you think you could go without rice

[00:26:39] is what I think Bryce is getting.

[00:26:40] Because there have been times where like on my season,

[00:26:45] we were out there and we didn't it rained so much and didn't have fire.

[00:26:50] And during one of the challenges, like we all were about to pass out.

[00:26:53] And when we got back to the medical tent, they had said, like,

[00:26:56] you don't need to boil the water, like just drink the water.

[00:26:59] Like the the cons of anything in the water

[00:27:04] is going to be less worse

[00:27:07] than you guys being dehydrated and passing out.

[00:27:12] So my question is, do you think it would get to a point

[00:27:14] if she really hasn't eaten given her allergy?

[00:27:19] Yes, she might pass out and then they might have to pull her.

[00:27:25] But you could go a lot longer without food than without water.

[00:27:28] For sure. Absolutely.

[00:27:29] But obviously, I mean, at this point, there are probably five,

[00:27:33] six days in the marriage and she hasn't had a single bite anything.

[00:27:37] I mean, I get why it's really frustrating.

[00:27:39] But at the same time, it's like you signed up for it.

[00:27:43] You knew you had allergies.

[00:27:46] But some people have breaking points.

[00:27:48] You know, like she had she had a meltdown out there straight up.

[00:27:52] And it's like logic goes out the window.

[00:27:54] I'm trying to shoot her some bail here.

[00:27:56] Logic goes out the window and you're just like,

[00:27:59] I guess, yelling whatever you can yell.

[00:28:01] She's just so frustrated. She wanted it so bad.

[00:28:04] I guess she thought that someone would would bring her along.

[00:28:09] Since we're all over the place, can we get back to Q real quick?

[00:28:14] So after the challenge.

[00:28:17] And he's just by herself.

[00:28:19] And Dr. Maria comes to him.

[00:28:21] I just love how.

[00:28:25] Q, you just burnt down the whole house.

[00:28:29] Like, I mean, legitimately.

[00:28:31] And it's then it's it's like you burn down the house.

[00:28:35] Then you're sitting on the step where the house used to be.

[00:28:39] And you're like.

[00:28:41] If you need me to help move stuff in and stuff out,

[00:28:43] I'm right there with you.

[00:28:45] Like, I got you. Like, I love how he's like a clean slate.

[00:28:48] I'm a vote whatever way you want me to go.

[00:28:51] Like I there's something sinister, but also something like commendable,

[00:29:00] like commendable in the sense of like, you know, you're on the bottom.

[00:29:04] Right. And it's like you actually playing it so cool

[00:29:08] really kind of pulls you back into the game.

[00:29:10] But because it's Q.

[00:29:13] I just know he like, you know, I did that over you.

[00:29:16] You know, in hindsight, I slept there

[00:29:20] because I know Dr. Marie was going to come back over here.

[00:29:23] Like, but so bright.

[00:29:24] Check this out.

[00:29:25] We saw Q do a lot of that early or what?

[00:29:28] What seemed like it was a lot of like revisionist history.

[00:29:31] Monday, Monday morning quarterback and type of stuff.

[00:29:34] But I feel like he's at the point now where he's like.

[00:29:38] Man, I mess everything up

[00:29:40] that I'm just be on my own over here and hope for the best.

[00:29:43] And in Maria's case, kudos to Dr.

[00:29:46] Maria, friend of the show, friend in real life.

[00:29:50] And to anyone that's trying to go out on Survivor, this is how you move.

[00:29:55] No one is isolated.

[00:29:56] You always check in with people.

[00:29:59] That person that is isolated can be your biggest move.

[00:30:02] Dr. Maria's biggest move right now is this move

[00:30:05] that she just pulled off on Tiffany, someone who could have very well won the game.

[00:30:10] So first of all, kudos to Maria for understanding.

[00:30:14] Oh, this person is all the way isolated.

[00:30:16] And you know what? That's an opportunity.

[00:30:19] Q, love you, friend of the show.

[00:30:22] Man, get you don't hang out over there.

[00:30:26] Make more possibilities.

[00:30:27] But but yeah, great, great job by Maria and Q.

[00:30:32] Please stay on the island much longer.

[00:30:34] We love you, man.

[00:30:37] Yeah, yeah, I was surprised that people saw Maria go into chopping up with Q

[00:30:43] and they were just like, oh, she's going to come for them.

[00:30:45] But I mean, that but that's what I love about Dr.

[00:30:48] Maria, right? Like, that's her angle.

[00:30:50] Like it wasn't like, oh, it's sinister because everyone is like, we hate you.

[00:30:55] She's like coming from a mother perspective, a doctor perspective, like, hey,

[00:30:59] I'm just going to go check on him as a person.

[00:31:03] And that's what she does.

[00:31:04] But she also playing the game and she like, you good?

[00:31:08] I don't want you to check out just yet.

[00:31:10] We could do some.

[00:31:13] And she like as if he has multiple options.

[00:31:17] Whatever you need me to do.

[00:31:18] I got you. Well, we know that you.

[00:31:21] But yeah, I do love that about Dr. Maria, but I was nervous as well.

[00:31:26] Like, are they going to look at her?

[00:31:28] Like, why are you going over there to talk to Q?

[00:31:31] Right until we felt sorry to go.

[00:31:33] Oh, no, you're good. Right.

[00:31:35] And I think that really just adds to what I'm calling like the Maria missed

[00:31:40] where her name isn't coming up because she's coming up to people

[00:31:43] kind of calm, just checking on her, seeing how you doing, things like that.

[00:31:49] And then boom, just like that, we see Tiff go home.

[00:31:52] These are the things that are happening that

[00:31:54] we're not necessarily paying attention to.

[00:31:57] And I think that just speaks to how her name hasn't come up

[00:32:01] outside of just Tiff mentioning it, you know?

[00:32:04] How many how many players are we down to now?

[00:32:08] Seven after this, because because this move was so big.

[00:32:12] That makes me nervous.

[00:32:14] No, but like if you ask me, it's the right time, because first of all,

[00:32:18] Kenzie, we're talking about it.

[00:32:20] Maria's like, oh, we're all right.

[00:32:22] You stay. Yeah, you keep holding off.

[00:32:24] I got you. I got something for you.

[00:32:26] And then she pulls this move that just leaves Kenzie shook to her core.

[00:32:32] And without and without anybody,

[00:32:35] while Maria has what's the Green Tribe?

[00:32:38] We got Seager.

[00:32:39] There are three of them still, right?

[00:32:41] Yeah. And now they got Q.

[00:32:44] And that's why I think that's what I wanted to get at with this move.

[00:32:47] Not only within this tribal was it a great move,

[00:32:49] blindsiding Tiff and orchestrating these votes,

[00:32:52] but I think it was came at a critical critical junction.

[00:32:56] Oh, if a critical, critical,

[00:33:01] critical, critical,

[00:33:02] I don't know if it's critical or crucial.

[00:33:04] So it can't can live, have criticals on her side.

[00:33:09] She's allergic.

[00:33:11] But my critical is actually

[00:33:14] the cuticles.

[00:33:16] But I think it comes at a critical junction because say Q does go home.

[00:33:22] Then I think that Tiff, Kenzie,

[00:33:26] Venus and Liz can pretty apparently see that the Seager three are obvious three

[00:33:31] left and they're two and two all girls that seem like they might want to work

[00:33:36] together. And I think that puts the Seager three in a lot of danger.

[00:33:38] And Tiff would still have her idol.

[00:33:40] Now you get rid of Kenzie,

[00:33:43] you have Q as a potential option who could get you to that.

[00:33:45] Where your Seager three could kind of keep those numbers held down.

[00:33:50] So that's why I felt so good about this move,

[00:33:52] because not only was it like just a move,

[00:33:55] it was setting up the remainder of the game to keep yourself safe,

[00:33:58] because I think they would have been in a lot of trouble at seven.

[00:34:02] So that's why I was really impressed with it.

[00:34:03] And and eight is the right time to start making moves in the new era.

[00:34:07] I feel like 10, 11 is too early.

[00:34:09] Yeah, I two things I want like Kenzie's face.

[00:34:13] Do you think it was that because Tiff went home or because

[00:34:19] y'all stole my move?

[00:34:21] Oh, oh, oh, I handed you the move

[00:34:24] and your blinds out of me with my move.

[00:34:27] And I can't get credit for it now.

[00:34:29] I can't be like that was my move.

[00:34:31] And so that's what worries me about Dr.

[00:34:33] Maria, because now I feel like Kenzie is going to see

[00:34:38] that Dr. Maria is moving and shaking.

[00:34:41] And with Q back in play.

[00:34:45] An idol back in play.

[00:34:47] You might be the you might be the new free agent, the new.

[00:34:50] Right.

[00:34:51] I'm yeah, it's definitely this could backfire on Maria.

[00:34:54] But Maria and Charlie are a nice duo where maybe one of them is picked.

[00:34:58] One of them gets picked off and then maybe one of them can get to the end.

[00:35:00] But actually don't mind this for Kenzie because I thought her whole logic

[00:35:04] and she says this in the episode of like.

[00:35:07] Now it's always it's a huge resume booster to blindside your number one

[00:35:10] ally, I'm like that is not.

[00:35:13] It's only a resume booster when you do it

[00:35:15] kind of like a Jesse right at the end or you do it like a Mary Ann

[00:35:19] when she takes out Omer, who wasn't even technically her number one.

[00:35:23] People in this season especially are like final 12.

[00:35:26] Time to get my number one out.

[00:35:27] It's like you're leaving yourself with no allies.

[00:35:30] Like how are you supposed to play the game?

[00:35:32] So Kenzie and I think Tiffany, we've seen that she's willing

[00:35:35] to be a little bit bitter towards someone who just does her wrong

[00:35:38] that she's close to like Q.

[00:35:40] If Kenzie was the one who orchestrates this, I think that ups

[00:35:43] Kenzie's threat level and send someone to the jury who's going to be against her.

[00:35:46] Now, I actually think Kenzie's threat level is a little bit lower

[00:35:49] up behind a Maria and a Charlie and she's playing on the jury.

[00:35:53] So I still feel I really think like it's Charlie, Maria and Kenzie,

[00:35:58] you know, as far as winning likelihood goes,

[00:36:01] and then it's everybody else down here.

[00:36:03] But there's also a world where maybe a Ben is able to be like,

[00:36:07] you know, I got to go to them with like a Q and a Venus

[00:36:09] and maybe Ben could pull it out.

[00:36:10] But I think if I think one of those three at the top will get to the end,

[00:36:15] but only one of them and then they'll have an easy victory.

[00:36:18] Call me crazy.

[00:36:22] You're crazy. Call me a hypocrite.

[00:36:24] You're a hypocrite.

[00:36:25] But anything is, is there a world that I can't believe I'm about to say?

[00:36:32] Don't say Liz or Q.

[00:36:34] Is there a world that if Q maintains this profile

[00:36:40] that he just kind of did towards the end?

[00:36:45] I'm second guessing if he gets to the end.

[00:36:52] Does he have a Q Venus Liz final three would be

[00:36:58] this the messiest thing, most unpredictable thing of all time.

[00:37:01] Right. Because Q theoretically,

[00:37:03] I don't like think people like the way that Q's moving.

[00:37:06] Oh, maybe he could redeem himself.

[00:37:08] But obviously, people don't really like the way that Venus are moving.

[00:37:12] So that would.

[00:37:14] But I do think there's a world where Ben, like I said,

[00:37:16] could slip in with some of those people and the whole story of Ben

[00:37:20] is he's just, you know, he might be not doing.

[00:37:23] He might not be doing too much on the surface strategically,

[00:37:25] but people just like him.

[00:37:27] They they rock because he rocked.

[00:37:29] But not even that, though, every crucial vote

[00:37:33] or the last three votes that we have seen,

[00:37:35] we haven't seen much have been strategizing or like starting it.

[00:37:39] But it seems like the people go to him, right?

[00:37:43] Like they like they don't make a move without him.

[00:37:46] So again, I believe that there potentially is a world

[00:37:49] that we're not seeing a lot of what Ben is doing.

[00:37:56] But yeah, I got my overalls on over here.

[00:38:00] I haven't given up on a Ben dream.

[00:38:02] Ben might can pull it out in the end.

[00:38:04] And I think when it comes to final several coming up next round,

[00:38:08] I think that's the time for you to kick up your game and start playing.

[00:38:13] He just made a move with the Seagate three.

[00:38:16] But at some point, Charlie and Maria got to go.

[00:38:19] If you're Ben in this situation and you want to win

[00:38:21] because not only have each of them one immunity before,

[00:38:26] but they just pulled off a big move with your help.

[00:38:30] But what have you done outside of them?

[00:38:33] Tim's gone.

[00:38:36] What's your big move to make you stand out?

[00:38:38] And I think sitting next to Q or only sitting next to Venus and Liz

[00:38:43] might be the situation where he can just rock out and win it.

[00:38:48] And although I love me some Charlie and shout out to Charlie for winning

[00:38:51] two back to back individual immunities,

[00:38:54] but I feel like in this new era, a lot of people have that

[00:38:58] Kenzie think thought process of like, I got to get my number one out.

[00:39:02] And so I'm worried that Dr.

[00:39:05] Maria and Charlie might have to

[00:39:10] go at each other.

[00:39:11] And it's like Charlie is sitting

[00:39:15] pretty, in my opinion, at this point.

[00:39:18] Like, I mean, the man love Taylor Swift.

[00:39:22] The man is he had them scrunchie balls

[00:39:26] and was doing the scrunchie balls for two years to build up his forearm.

[00:39:30] Now, I could have what his forearm?

[00:39:35] Now, I've been doing a couple of things for a couple of years,

[00:39:37] and I'm not sure if my forearms are like, I don't know.

[00:39:40] That's crazy.

[00:39:42] But you know, but you

[00:39:45] these at 50 come around, baby, just know that I've had practice.

[00:39:51] But Charlie is his resume is strong.

[00:40:00] And I just get worried because, again, I love Charlie.

[00:40:04] I love Dr. Maria.

[00:40:05] I love Kenzie. I love Ben.

[00:40:07] But at some point, you got to cut the you got to cut the pie.

[00:40:13] Next week, they're going to be in the spotlight for sure.

[00:40:16] You know, they've they've done a great job of laying low so far,

[00:40:18] but they've made this big move.

[00:40:20] People are, A, going to be unhappy and B, see that their resume is

[00:40:24] is is really strong now.

[00:40:27] And in this game, like this game is so crazy

[00:40:30] because I was like, oh, man, they got the critical mass now.

[00:40:33] Those three plus Q.

[00:40:34] But we've seen how ridiculous this season has been.

[00:40:38] And people are just trying to get rid of their besties and their allies.

[00:40:42] Yeah, I got my money as much as I just thought, all right,

[00:40:46] they got the critical mass, they're going to, you know,

[00:40:48] decimate the next the other three.

[00:40:50] Nah, it ain't going to happen.

[00:40:52] There's no chance there's not a chance that it will happen.

[00:40:55] So, yeah.

[00:40:56] And in the new era, I feel like people are so much better towards,

[00:40:59] you know, the final seven ish of being like, hey, I'm

[00:41:03] I think there's more self-awareness of like, hey, I'm one of the weaker people here.

[00:41:06] I need to get to the end with the other people at the bottom

[00:41:09] in order to have a chance of winning.

[00:41:11] And maybe that was what factored into Liz not voting for Q is because

[00:41:15] even though she seems to despise Q, she's like, maybe Q

[00:41:19] is one of the only people I can beat. Right.

[00:41:21] So maybe there's like, like we said, that's why it's very possible that

[00:41:25] Ben, Q, Venus, Liz are like these three are outplaying us very hard.

[00:41:31] So they just need to be the people and sort of like an alliance by necessity

[00:41:35] instead of an alliance by relationship.

[00:41:40] So that's why I wouldn't be surprised.

[00:41:42] But there is this season so much disarray in that group

[00:41:46] that maybe we see a Kenzie, Charlie or Maria get through to the end.

[00:41:51] But for me, it's like there's no reason to portray your number one, really,

[00:41:55] especially in the new era until maybe like

[00:41:57] I think the final six at the earliest,

[00:42:00] because, you know, final four, maybe they go out on fire.

[00:42:03] Final five, maybe they have an idol.

[00:42:05] And so you don't really want to worry about that.

[00:42:07] But any time before that for me is just too early.

[00:42:09] If it's you, if it's like if me and Tim are number ones

[00:42:12] and we're going to the end together, let's go to the end,

[00:42:15] make that move at the last minute and make sure one of us wins

[00:42:17] instead of cutting each other at 10, making a big move

[00:42:20] and then your target number one, like that doesn't make any sense.

[00:42:23] But I also think from again, I think from Kenzie's standpoint

[00:42:28] and we know that they watched Jam's season before they left.

[00:42:33] Her knowing the tribe that she was on

[00:42:39] and knowing how it ended for them, I could see that's potentially

[00:42:42] why she's like, I need to separate myself from this pack early on.

[00:42:46] So it's like I understand Kenzie's thinking,

[00:42:48] again, knowing that they just seen Jam's season.

[00:42:52] So I don't love it, but I don't hate it.

[00:42:57] I also am like now shout out to my girl Tiffany, because I feel like

[00:43:02] the reason why she was blindsided this week

[00:43:06] is because she was loyal.

[00:43:07] She was strong and she was everything.

[00:43:09] It's like now why mad at Tiffany is I feel like.

[00:43:16] You skated with the idol last week, sis,

[00:43:20] regardless of any and it's like that.

[00:43:23] That is like, it's now I don't want to put myself in this,

[00:43:27] but I know somebody that every time

[00:43:33] they go to like a Marshalls or Ross or something like, you know,

[00:43:36] some just always happen to just land in a cart.

[00:43:41] And so it's like I keep telling people like.

[00:43:45] You know, people will let you get away with stuff until like they don't.

[00:43:49] So like you should stop putting stuff in your cart and leave it.

[00:43:52] Like, you should do that.

[00:43:54] And I just feel like specifically for Tiffany, knowing the idol,

[00:43:59] like I just hindsight is always 20, 20.

[00:44:02] But like, girl, why you ain't played it?

[00:44:03] I don't like regardless of if you think you could get like,

[00:44:07] you know what happened last week.

[00:44:09] And I also felt like.

[00:44:12] Jeff. Was sending hints

[00:44:17] upon hints of first of all, I feel like Jeff.

[00:44:21] We had spicy Jeff last week.

[00:44:23] I feel like Jeffrey getting messy, like I feel like Jeffrey, like,

[00:44:27] let me see what I could do to like, because I think at this point, Jeff

[00:44:32] enjoys the live tribal. So Jeffrey, like.

[00:44:37] It's eerie out here window.

[00:44:42] It's eerie.

[00:44:44] You guys don't think it's eerie.

[00:44:47] It's like, why are you trying to?

[00:44:48] But I felt like in that moment, he was talking to Tiff like.

[00:44:52] Sis. This eerie.

[00:44:55] First of all, Jeff is like.

[00:44:58] Jeff is like. Q is still here.

[00:45:05] Something right.

[00:45:07] And if y'all is all saying is Q tonight after these last two tribals,

[00:45:12] Tiffany is eerie.

[00:45:18] Did y'all not get that from Jeff?

[00:45:19] Like, I felt like he was like.

[00:45:22] It's too calm out here.

[00:45:25] Too calm. Like, listen, give me 20 minutes because I was sad to see Tiff

[00:45:28] go to it's an hourglass right here.

[00:45:31] Give me 20 minutes. I can smash it.

[00:45:33] Go back. Stand behind Jeff.

[00:45:35] Send some signals over to Tiff.

[00:45:37] You know, let her know she can play her idol.

[00:45:39] Her idol, Alicia might have to split, but she might have to stay in the game

[00:45:43] because I felt like it to that Jeff in this situation was saying

[00:45:48] Q still here.

[00:45:51] Last time Q was going home,

[00:45:53] Dennis Hunter is Q going home tonight, is it going to be somebody else?

[00:45:58] I don't know. It might be somebody name who rhyme with Jeff.

[00:46:02] I don't know if they got an idol. They might want to play it.

[00:46:04] You know, that's the kind of vibes I was getting from Jeff

[00:46:07] watching it in this moment. And so.

[00:46:10] Man, I just think.

[00:46:13] If I had 10 minutes, I can go back in time and have a different result

[00:46:17] for Tiff. So I did think Tiff's

[00:46:20] no play was maybe the most excusable one of the season

[00:46:24] in the sense that Q did make a lot of sense.

[00:46:27] And looking at the numbers, if I were her, I would be surprised

[00:46:30] for a Venus, a Tiffany or a Venus,

[00:46:35] Liz or a Kenzie to flip on me, which would be, you know,

[00:46:39] a critical number to get the majority.

[00:46:42] But I do think there's something to be said where.

[00:46:45] If things seem really easy and you don't know what this

[00:46:48] there's always two plans, right?

[00:46:49] There's even when it's a majority vote, it's like what's Q's plan?

[00:46:53] And if you don't know what Q's plan is, that means there's a plan going on

[00:46:56] that you're not in and that you could be an option.

[00:47:01] So that's just something to look out for is like there's always two plans.

[00:47:03] I do think this season especially has also sort of changed the strategy

[00:47:07] in the sense of like.

[00:47:09] I don't know if this is like a good thing or a bad thing

[00:47:11] as a player or as a viewer, where

[00:47:14] it's like if a plan, if there's a simple plan, it's not lasting.

[00:47:18] Someone's going to be like, well, this plan is too simple.

[00:47:20] We need to get ahead of things and make this like crazy plan

[00:47:24] and blindside someone when we're in reality.

[00:47:26] Sometimes the simple plan is the best plan.

[00:47:29] But as a viewer, maybe it's good to have it be like, OK,

[00:47:33] we all want to vote like every it almost feels like every episode.

[00:47:35] It's like, OK, we should all vote Q.

[00:47:37] But if everyone's thinking about that, then there's a window of opportunity.

[00:47:40] And like, we can't be the ones who don't grab it.

[00:47:42] We got to go grab it.

[00:47:43] So now Q is just like never going to go home

[00:47:46] because he's always the easy vote and no one wants to make any.

[00:47:51] In a weird way, it would be interesting to see someone

[00:47:53] go in as a player with the strategy of like, I want to make myself

[00:47:57] an easy vote because nobody ever does the easy vote anymore.

[00:48:01] You might skate by.

[00:48:04] Is there a world, would it make sense that like,

[00:48:07] say in this particular instance, that it is just the easy vote for Q?

[00:48:12] Is there a world where you just go up to a Ben or somebody, a Liz,

[00:48:17] and just be like, so are you all really doing the other move?

[00:48:22] You know what I mean? Like,

[00:48:24] because that's what I would think, right?

[00:48:26] Because I think we sit here and we sit here in every season

[00:48:31] and every season, we always say when you get comfortable,

[00:48:34] that's when you go.

[00:48:36] But the problem is you never know

[00:48:40] when you comfortable unless you Q and you outside

[00:48:42] sitting on that thing turned over.

[00:48:44] But it's like just in this instance, like sometimes it's just like.

[00:48:48] And I guess my question to you, Wendell, is like as a winner,

[00:48:52] like, I'm sure there were moments that you

[00:48:56] is clearly on your season where you were surprised

[00:48:58] and finding out new information or like, how can you prepare

[00:49:02] for being too comfortable?

[00:49:07] It's easy.

[00:49:08] It's easy to get comfortable as a one time player.

[00:49:11] And we see it when people turn into like the godfathers

[00:49:14] and stuff like that.

[00:49:15] And like, like we saw with our buddy James, he got a little comfortable.

[00:49:18] We saw it with Uncle Carl.

[00:49:19] He got a little.

[00:49:20] I know.

[00:49:20] You had that Corona, the Corona day.

[00:49:24] Uncle Carl.

[00:49:24] And I think I think with me on Ghost Island specifically,

[00:49:29] I went in there thinking like you can never get too comfortable.

[00:49:32] Right. And then I got comfortable really early.

[00:49:35] And and.

[00:49:38] It was post after a swap

[00:49:40] and we thought that we're going to all work together and vote Angela, who was

[00:49:45] Navid strong.

[00:49:47] We're going to vote her out as like a peace offering with these

[00:49:50] Malolos that came over and they blindsided me and my allies,

[00:49:53] me, Dom and Morgan.

[00:49:54] They voted Morgan out.

[00:49:55] This was like the third or fourth episode. Right.

[00:49:57] And that woke us up.

[00:50:01] It was like that could have been any me or Dom.

[00:50:04] It was Morgan who could have won the game.

[00:50:07] But I think that happening so early

[00:50:11] made us really think, all right, we can really never get too comfortable.

[00:50:14] We just went to survivor school very early

[00:50:17] with these people that had just been to tribal twice.

[00:50:19] We had never gone to tribal.

[00:50:21] And so I think I was lucky to be shaken that early in the game

[00:50:26] and understand, all right, you just always have to stay on it.

[00:50:30] But yeah, it's very easy to get comfortable out there.

[00:50:32] And then come back for winners that were I got too comfortable

[00:50:36] at the merge.

[00:50:37] I was just on a trial where I just built,

[00:50:40] I just rebuilt Boston Rob's shelter or whatever he built.

[00:50:44] And this is our I was on this island

[00:50:47] a year and a half prior when it goes to island.

[00:50:51] And I'm really comfortable with my friends.

[00:50:53] Nick, Michelle, we're good.

[00:50:54] Jeremy just comes on, you know.

[00:50:56] And I got too comfortable because it's like all my people. Right.

[00:51:01] And it was eerie because I'm over there, like building something in my little area

[00:51:07] and conversations are going.

[00:51:08] And I went with the first conversation like, all right, cool.

[00:51:11] It's Adam. Yeah, we're good.

[00:51:12] And I just think I could build for the rest of the day.

[00:51:16] And that's what it's too easy.

[00:51:19] And that's when they get you.

[00:51:21] That's a long way of me explaining it.

[00:51:23] But yeah, like, it's very easy to get comfortable.

[00:51:25] In that said, people have talked about it before, but I think of any example,

[00:51:29] this could be the time where this shot in the dark thing

[00:51:35] when Q doesn't play a shot in the dark, if I'm Tiff, I'm like.

[00:51:38] Why does he have hope?

[00:51:40] Like, what is his what's the plan he's going off of?

[00:51:42] Because if he was really as sure that it was all piling on him

[00:51:47] as it had been made out to be, then you would play your shot in the dark.

[00:51:51] And, you know, given that information of again, it's easier in hindsight.

[00:51:56] But given that you think he has a plan

[00:51:58] that's going to be like a blind side, who's the person they would blind.

[00:52:01] So it would be Tiff.

[00:52:02] So I don't know.

[00:52:04] But I still think this is a hard one to see coming.

[00:52:06] But I do talk about the vote a little bit more.

[00:52:10] This is actually where I think that Liz messed up a lot.

[00:52:15] And not only do I think that

[00:52:19] maybe voting for Tiffany was a bad move for her

[00:52:24] because you're sort of giving Seegas the numbers,

[00:52:26] you're hopping on this plan.

[00:52:28] I actually think there was a window here for and people.

[00:52:31] I thought about this while watching the episode,

[00:52:32] but I've heard other people on like like Rob and Steven were talking about this.

[00:52:37] So I got it. It's not necessarily an original.

[00:52:40] I thought of it during the episode, but other people have talked about it.

[00:52:42] So maybe it's not as original as they thought.

[00:52:44] But OK, I thought that I thought that Liz should have.

[00:52:51] Whether she goes to the plan or not,

[00:52:53] I think she should have told Tiffany at Tribal, hey, play your idol,

[00:52:57] because if she doesn't listen to you or she doesn't trust you, she's going to go home.

[00:53:02] But if she does listen to you, you flush the idol.

[00:53:05] You still take you out.

[00:53:07] You expose all the Seegas who have now voted for Tiff.

[00:53:10] And so this now becomes Liz's move of saving Tiffany, taking out Q

[00:53:16] and creating this huge fracture in the game between the Seegas and everybody else.

[00:53:21] And I think that absolutely would have been the move for her.

[00:53:24] And that's kind of why I think, you know, it worked out for the Seegas.

[00:53:28] But if I'm Maria and Charlie, like, do I actually trust that Liz would be on board?

[00:53:33] I don't think so. I think there's a move for them where you tell Liz, like, hey,

[00:53:38] let's blindside Tiffany.

[00:53:42] And then maybe the four of them actually vote for like a Venus,

[00:53:45] because then it would be a four to three to one vote.

[00:53:48] And you see if Liz is actually rocking with you or not.

[00:53:51] And if she's not rocking with you, and then in which case she would be like,

[00:53:55] she'd be like, yeah, yeah. Then she'd be like, hey, Tiff,

[00:53:58] those four voting for you need to play your idol.

[00:54:00] If she's not rocking, Tiff plays her idol.

[00:54:02] And then like a Venus goes home.

[00:54:04] So I think that's if you're thinking about, you know, Liz

[00:54:07] doing something that's optimal for herself, which she's obviously proven

[00:54:10] she doesn't really kind of do

[00:54:12] that actually could have been a move for Seegas to consider as well.

[00:54:15] I think that move that you just described, the credit should go to Charlie.

[00:54:19] Right. Because I think from watching Liz and hearing Liz go off

[00:54:24] with Q being like, you stole my big move when we got back to camp.

[00:54:27] Why was I the last to know?

[00:54:29] It seemed like she was really upset with that. Right.

[00:54:32] And again, maybe to your point, not a great move of hers

[00:54:35] to kind of like go against what she wanted to get her big move.

[00:54:39] But very smart on Charlie to actually listen to what she's saying,

[00:54:44] because Dr. Maria was like, I don't trust her.

[00:54:47] Like, I can't go with her.

[00:54:48] But I think going with Charlie's gut being like, no, I think that we

[00:54:51] actually could bring her in if we tell her the information

[00:54:55] using her blow up of her being like obviously mad at Q,

[00:55:00] but also being like, why didn't you all tell me?

[00:55:02] I think again, a very smart move for Charlie Swift.

[00:55:08] Yeah, I was a little surprised that Liz hopped on board,

[00:55:12] but they deserve obviously a lot of credit for getting her to that point

[00:55:16] like a day after she just cussed Q out.

[00:55:20] But I do not think it was again, I don't.

[00:55:22] Basically, my point is I think there was a lot of options here for Liz.

[00:55:25] And some of them were not that black and white Q or Tiffany vote.

[00:55:30] But there was something in the middle where I think she could gain

[00:55:32] a lot of traction in the game and she didn't think of it.

[00:55:35] So maybe that's why she's in a bad spot in the game.

[00:55:39] Not Q.

[00:55:40] Is there a world where the Q that we know

[00:55:47] returns next episode after he just kind of like skated through?

[00:55:52] Now he's like Christmas.

[00:55:55] Christmas is back on because I really do feel like

[00:55:59] I really do feel like in these last two episodes, Q was like.

[00:56:04] I play my game like I'm going out, like, you know, hang me on the cross.

[00:56:09] And I think that he really was like his games done like he's like,

[00:56:13] I think that that's why we saw him so lethargic or whatever.

[00:56:16] But I really feel like this episode.

[00:56:19] Oh, yeah, he's going to get it was Easter Sunday.

[00:56:22] They moved the two.

[00:56:25] And how you say Q's first name, you say, how do you say it?

[00:56:30] Quintavious, Quintay, they moved, they moved their boat

[00:56:34] and Quintavious was not in the tomb.

[00:56:38] And I feel like we're about to get

[00:56:41] another like I hope so.

[00:56:44] The second coming of Q

[00:56:45] second coming of you and I'm excited.

[00:56:49] The second Cuban.

[00:56:51] Yeah, coming with the Q.

[00:56:54] Yeah, no, I definitely think you could easily come back from this situation

[00:56:58] and start playing the game that we seen Q played the whole time.

[00:57:02] Like you can try to pull Venus to the side,

[00:57:05] try to pull Charlie Maria to the side and say, OK,

[00:57:08] this is what we're doing this final seven.

[00:57:11] You know, you can't sit at the end with this person.

[00:57:13] We got to vote him out right now.

[00:57:15] It's possible.

[00:57:16] And I definitely think it can happen.

[00:57:18] No, it's going to pan out for him.

[00:57:24] But I definitely want to see Q back in action because

[00:57:30] we need some more Q quotes.

[00:57:32] Yeah. What theoretically should happen is Q now goes over

[00:57:35] with Kenzie Liz and Venus and says, all right, Charlie and Maria,

[00:57:39] two bigger threats us four needed to break up the secret three right now.

[00:57:43] But for for Q, Liz and Venus to get on the same page in that plan,

[00:57:47] I think would take a miracle.

[00:57:49] So we'll see if it actually could shake out or not. But.

[00:57:53] It's been it's been that was another great episode,

[00:57:56] so it's been a great streak.

[00:57:58] It really has been also, you know.

[00:58:02] Jalinski with his tick tock for me.

[00:58:07] Do you know that Jack 50 Cent's first album?

[00:58:13] Is that to to your air to before your time?

[00:58:17] Which album was it? His first first.

[00:58:20] Well, like, does it have a name?

[00:58:22] Yeah. Well, he's get Richard Di trying.

[00:58:26] So no, but so do you remember that, Tim?

[00:58:31] Do you remember his first single?

[00:58:33] It wasn't many. It wasn't many.

[00:58:35] No, OK. It was in the club.

[00:58:38] But that was the first single.

[00:58:41] It was it was it was with him pumping up.

[00:58:44] Thanks. Oh, OK.

[00:58:46] It was Wankster in the club.

[00:58:49] And then Tim, you actually said it.

[00:58:51] It was many men.

[00:58:53] You got on get Richard Di trying. Yes.

[00:58:56] Yeah, I know the album.

[00:58:57] OK, so no every lyric.

[00:58:59] The song is many men.

[00:59:02] Wish death upon me.

[00:59:05] OK, so

[00:59:08] it's a hard song.

[00:59:11] That song slaps.

[00:59:12] OK, and for Q

[00:59:16] to post that behind last week's episode

[00:59:21] as the episode was airing and Q posted

[00:59:25] like everyone standing playing many men

[00:59:29] which death upon me.

[00:59:32] OK, with the quote standing the tallest

[00:59:36] among what's remaining.

[00:59:39] Oh, I saw that.

[00:59:40] It's like, all right.

[00:59:41] They want my head.

[00:59:43] I want my head.

[00:59:48] They want my head on a slide

[00:59:52] and I want there on the bottom of a queue.

[01:00:00] I love it.

[01:00:02] Who is this man?

[01:00:04] He's the greatest thing to happen to Survivor.

[01:00:08] Oh, OK.

[01:00:11] It's just the song.

[01:00:14] He's so great.

[01:00:17] But why do many men wish death upon you?

[01:00:22] I'll get the Applebee's.

[01:00:25] It gets better.

[01:00:27] It gets better, which is why I am hopeful.

[01:00:31] Oh, I can't stop laughing.

[01:00:33] I'm sorry.

[01:00:33] We did one of the stories that you mentioned.

[01:00:37] Say that again.

[01:00:38] You mentioned Jalinski is part of this.

[01:00:40] I was just saying that with Jalinski.

[01:00:43] His tick tock, this is the social media

[01:00:48] that I've been paying more attention.

[01:00:50] So why I was like, I hope that we get the Q back next week

[01:00:55] because many men must last week right after the episode

[01:01:00] or Wednesday.

[01:01:03] Q post this photo

[01:01:06] said they can't get me.

[01:01:16] They can't get me.

[01:01:19] I might be like the the Nick Young, Swaggy P,

[01:01:22] like the meme with the question marks around his head.

[01:01:25] Where is it?

[01:01:26] It's a kind of word.

[01:01:27] Oh, I need this photo.

[01:01:29] This photo is so great.

[01:01:31] I'm like, they can't get me.

[01:01:34] But it's like it's implied

[01:01:40] that you pulled off something.

[01:01:44] When in actuality, when actuality, it was Dr.

[01:01:51] But they can't.

[01:01:54] They can't get me.

[01:01:56] Oh, no, that's invincible with the Q.

[01:02:00] I'm going to have to use that.

[01:02:02] What my hair on a spike?

[01:02:04] They can't get me. I see it.

[01:02:09] But great episode.

[01:02:14] Do we talk to some survivor 50 or do we make that a separate episode?

[01:02:17] No, I mean, we could be as up an episode, but

[01:02:21] well, tell us about Survivor 50.

[01:02:24] OK, yes. So last on Saturday, there was a survivor event in L.A.

[01:02:29] that I did not go to, actually, but Jeff announced on the spot.

[01:02:34] It was a little too early for me.

[01:02:36] Also, I didn't have anyone to go with.

[01:02:39] I thought I want to pull up solo.

[01:02:41] The only place you can only pull up solo to is a Bryson way,

[01:02:45] because when you're there, your family like Applebee's.

[01:02:47] But that's true.

[01:02:49] But Jeff there announced that season 50 would be returning players.

[01:02:54] And then you also went on to say that it wouldn't be restricted

[01:02:57] to the new era, could be any era.

[01:02:59] So we could be looking at.

[01:03:01] Some of our our favorites, we I mean, Wendell, Bryce,

[01:03:06] Liz, Jalinski, all on the island together for season 50.

[01:03:12] And I guess that's that's that's the survival world into a bit of a

[01:03:16] a bit of a I don't even know a bit of a frenzy.

[01:03:21] And also you guys as alumni would know more late.

[01:03:24] What what's been the the scoop on your end?

[01:03:28] Bro, let me give you a little a little inside survivor.

[01:03:31] I'll just start.

[01:03:34] There are some people in the survivor community that are known to just

[01:03:38] continue pregaming their whole life, right?

[01:03:41] Yeah. Let me tell you that I have learned about some new ones.

[01:03:47] And that is all I will say.

[01:03:49] And not yet.

[01:03:51] I just know that there's a lot of messages going a lot of places.

[01:03:55] And as an outsider who is just chilling,

[01:03:58] it's interesting to hear about all of this stuff. My goodness.

[01:04:01] When what's the you don't have to name any names, obviously.

[01:04:04] But what's the the least suave approach you've received about trying to pre

[01:04:09] cannot just also interrupt.

[01:04:11] Why is that question limited to him?

[01:04:15] Well, I mean, he was pregaming for winners at war,

[01:04:17] so I thought that would be more relevant.

[01:04:19] Yeah. He wasn't the only person to get a call for season 40

[01:04:22] before they announced that it was winners at war.

[01:04:25] Oh, I didn't know that.

[01:04:26] OK, but can't see you.

[01:04:27] But I want to hear from you, too.

[01:04:29] It's only because Wendell just shared his little story about that.

[01:04:33] And then I think we'll see what if you could answer that

[01:04:36] and then we'll jump to Bryce.

[01:04:37] Least wild way.

[01:04:39] OK, here's what I'll tell you.

[01:04:40] Nobody's hit me up to pregame.

[01:04:41] I'll tell you that.

[01:04:43] Even in the past.

[01:04:45] In the past. Yeah, of course, we had we had our we had friends.

[01:04:48] In the past, we had real life friends that we played the game together.

[01:04:52] Right. In this new era.

[01:04:54] It seems like everybody is messaging each other.

[01:04:57] And there are a couple of people.

[01:04:59] That are really going hard,

[01:05:03] but it's like, yo, person, people, y'all are really good survivor players

[01:05:08] and you're not playing pregame too great.

[01:05:10] I wish I wish there was no pregame,

[01:05:11] but it's an era of pregaming right now.

[01:05:14] It's crazy.

[01:05:14] So then Bryce is someone who's potentially,

[01:05:18] you know, we're hoping to see on the island for 50

[01:05:21] who's been in the mix a little bit,

[01:05:23] especially with all the new era folks at these.

[01:05:27] What's your lay in the land?

[01:05:29] So two things I want to say on the record.

[01:05:32] One is that after Saturday or whenever Jeff made that announcement.

[01:05:40] I just woke up, you know, let me peruse my Twitter real quick.

[01:05:45] And I was confused.

[01:05:48] Like, I thought that I had hit the hashtag survivor

[01:05:53] because I'm like, where is the mellow boat?

[01:05:56] Like, because I follow a lot of the mellow ball league stuff.

[01:05:59] And you know, he had just got a tattoo.

[01:06:00] So I'm like wanting to get there.

[01:06:01] I'm like, where's the mellow?

[01:06:03] And I'm like, why the hell is Janet Corbin tweeting?

[01:06:07] Like, you know, like no shade to Janet, though.

[01:06:09] But like, I was like, why?

[01:06:11] Like, yeah, that on Twitter a lot is right.

[01:06:15] No shade to Janet.

[01:06:18] I was like, why is Janet like?

[01:06:21] I was so confused.

[01:06:25] So that's one.

[01:06:26] Two, my.

[01:06:31] And I want to be serious real quick, right?

[01:06:33] Because there was a very long point in my life, right?

[01:06:36] Because, you know, Cagana is just coming up on its 10 year anniversary

[01:06:40] or 10 years now, yeah, you know, so I played when I was 13.

[01:06:44] But from my era until season 40,

[01:06:50] I think there was three returning seasons, potentially like four.

[01:06:55] And I know the mental heartache,

[01:07:00] the stress that.

[01:07:03] Us previous survivor players go through.

[01:07:07] And so, like for me, I just honestly like I just sent

[01:07:11] hope and prayers to the new era of people, because I know

[01:07:16] what it is like to feel like you were done wrong

[01:07:20] and you want a chance to like, you know, play again.

[01:07:22] And I don't wish that on my worst enemy, because the mental space

[01:07:27] that it takes up in your mind,

[01:07:33] it's hard and it's an emotional thing like survivor.

[01:07:36] Like, you know, it's a lot.

[01:07:38] And so, again, I don't wish that on my worst enemies,

[01:07:40] because it's like it's this feeling

[01:07:44] that you can't really explain, but you like,

[01:07:47] you don't want to throw your hat in it and then.

[01:07:49] But then you see stuff and then your emotions get involved.

[01:07:51] And so I am very, very, very blessed

[01:07:55] to have been in the game for so long and to recognize that.

[01:07:59] Listen, I'm a fan.

[01:08:01] I could sit back and I want to root for people.

[01:08:05] But I just also want people to take care of their like health,

[01:08:07] mental health, because it is it could get dark.

[01:08:12] And if the phone ring.

[01:08:16] Hello.

[01:08:17] But, you know, but I kind of let that go a little bit like for me

[01:08:23] doing what I get to do with Bryce and when present

[01:08:26] and opening up the community and being able to usher

[01:08:30] in the new seasons for me is very full circle.

[01:08:34] And I am very blessed.

[01:08:35] And I think that what I didn't realize going into Bryce and when

[01:08:41] how. Full circle

[01:08:44] really be for me, how it would like heal some of the wounds

[01:08:48] that I often forget that are still there.

[01:08:51] And so that's why I'm very grateful for Bryce and when

[01:08:53] in the community that we are building is so like for me,

[01:08:55] like seeing 50, like, you know,

[01:08:59] but also just being at such a more like.

[01:09:03] Let the kids have it for me.

[01:09:05] That's just what I can speak to.

[01:09:06] So again, I just I am just praying for.

[01:09:11] Well, I appreciate the serious answer, but I would be

[01:09:16] I would be incorrect.

[01:09:17] I feel like me personally and everybody watching

[01:09:21] and everybody knows everything that you've built is a hoping

[01:09:24] that you might get another shot.

[01:09:26] But also, I think there is a very, very legitimate possibility.

[01:09:31] And so I'm sure a lot of people in the survivor community

[01:09:33] community also recognize that.

[01:09:35] So have you been approached in any sort of like.

[01:09:39] Interesting way, not to name names, but like ways that you're like,

[01:09:43] hold on now, like this is what's going on here.

[01:09:50] I have learned a lot since Kage on.

[01:09:57] I've learned a lot since Kage.

[01:10:00] Fair enough.

[01:10:01] I'm not going to I don't want to pry anything out of you

[01:10:03] because the truth of the matter is no, nobody hit me.

[01:10:06] But Bryce, not even went to.

[01:10:08] OK, yeah, I didn't even you know what?

[01:10:11] That's crazy.

[01:10:12] If we get the cause, we ain't even go pregame with each other.

[01:10:15] I vote you out.

[01:10:18] It's going to be interesting

[01:10:20] going to some of these Bryce and when events, I'll tell you that.

[01:10:23] Oh, yeah. As an outsider, I like to sometimes I like to try to

[01:10:27] piece some pieces together and just sort of stir the pot a little bit.

[01:10:32] If I'm on 49, I would love to work with you on.

[01:10:37] Should we name Star Lounge?

[01:10:42] The 50 pregame Alliance lounge or something like that?

[01:10:45] The Alliance, the Alliance Lounge.

[01:10:51] Did you guys happen to see Zach Wharton burgers?

[01:10:55] Oh, yeah, I did.

[01:10:56] I did.

[01:10:57] I did.

[01:10:58] I did.

[01:10:59] Zach Wharton burgers.

[01:11:01] Oh, it is fantastic.

[01:11:05] I thought Brandon Donlin's tweet took me out.

[01:11:10] Which one was that?

[01:11:11] His new game of strategy and how he had like his text messages

[01:11:16] with a whole bunch of people with a winky face.

[01:11:19] I need to look this up. Hold on.

[01:11:21] That was hilarious.

[01:11:22] I also thought in a tweet that Wendell retweeted

[01:11:25] Stephen Fishback's message.

[01:11:27] I thought that was a that was real.

[01:11:31] I don't get what it would have Stephen Fishback because listening to our

[01:11:34] JP, Stephen Fishback actually didn't pull any punches

[01:11:38] when he was kind of talking about 50 saying he's been here and like

[01:11:41] he's like there's certain people from season like nine.

[01:11:45] And he named a couple days.

[01:11:46] He's like Papa Bear thinks he's getting another shot.

[01:11:50] He's like, that's crazy.

[01:11:51] What was this on? Was this on the live?

[01:11:54] It was on the know it all. It's not the live.

[01:11:55] I listen to know it all this morning and he's like there's certain people

[01:11:58] like he was like Papa Bear that are in like.

[01:12:02] Shout out to pop.

[01:12:03] Shout out to Poppy Bear.

[01:12:06] But he's like, we got people from like season,

[01:12:08] season six that are like that's what I'm telling you.

[01:12:11] Jack, I'm like, back it.

[01:12:14] It is a mysterious.

[01:12:18] I see Brandon's tweet.

[01:12:21] That Jack Baines is a.

[01:12:26] It's a mysterious place.

[01:12:27] And again, I just for me, my hope is that everyone in the community,

[01:12:29] again, have fun with it, but like just protect your peace because.

[01:12:34] I just know that over the edge is going to be really pop.

[01:12:42] I feel like I have people try to pregame with me.

[01:12:47] Or I should say,

[01:12:49] listen, all of a sudden the reels go from, you know,

[01:12:52] so many different likes to a hundred more.

[01:12:55] You know, maybe maybe that's pregaming for me.

[01:12:57] Who knows? Fingers crossed.

[01:12:59] What what I will say is, though,

[01:13:01] I have been loving the activity in the survivor community, right?

[01:13:06] Like I like it again reminds me of back in the day when X was Twitter.

[01:13:11] And like, I love to just see for people now also shout out to Janet Corbin,

[01:13:17] because she posted on Twitter and on Instagram.

[01:13:19] And I loved her Instagram real like I and if you ever met Janet Corbin,

[01:13:25] she's amazing, like she like she just posted like it was.

[01:13:29] Just make it fire in the real.

[01:13:30] It was like making fire.

[01:13:32] Just some of her photos swimming just like, right.

[01:13:35] But also just say like, you see me like, like,

[01:13:40] I don't know if anyone from Island of the Idols back, unfortunately.

[01:13:44] And if they did, I would want it to be, I think, Janice or maybe Jamal.

[01:13:49] Yeah, I also.

[01:13:52] That's an interesting season, right?

[01:13:53] Like, because I feel kind of like bad for that season in the sense.

[01:13:57] Yeah. First of all, shout out to Tick Tock,

[01:13:59] because there are so many accounts that like will rewatch seasons

[01:14:03] and then they'll give recaps.

[01:14:04] And there was this one account that was like doing a recap of that season.

[01:14:08] And so much happened in that season that I kind of forgot about.

[01:14:12] But I feel like it's the like overshadowed by don't.

[01:14:17] It's you know how some hotels don't have the 13th floor like it just like

[01:14:21] it's literally the 13th floor of Hotel 39 is a is a multiple of 13.

[01:14:27] So a 26, also a pretty bad season

[01:14:32] and 13 Cook Islands.

[01:14:34] I mean,

[01:14:37] maybe maybe the multiples of 13 are

[01:14:39] a not the moves.

[01:14:43] But so here's another thing, right?

[01:14:46] Also about 50.

[01:14:47] What I love

[01:14:51] is or when alleged filming starts, right?

[01:14:56] And I don't know if they do it so much anymore,

[01:14:58] but I used to love when you wouldn't know if somebody was out filming,

[01:15:04] but like you would then be like, see a photo like.

[01:15:08] And it's like happy Tuesday, guys.

[01:15:11] And it's like now, why the hell will window be posting that?

[01:15:15] And for me, I think of was it

[01:15:20] Adam Klein played twice, right?

[01:15:23] Yes.

[01:15:24] Did he play on winners at war?

[01:15:26] Yeah. Yeah.

[01:15:27] He was great.

[01:15:28] So and I think Jay Starrat

[01:15:33] took over his Instagram and I would just love

[01:15:37] when Jay would post because people would be in the comments like,

[01:15:41] Jay, we know this is you like I will go.

[01:15:45] Like, don't talk like that.

[01:15:49] I just love things of that nature

[01:15:52] that happen like in the survivor, like that's just like the survivor

[01:15:55] nerd that I am.

[01:15:56] And I also think like Kelly Wentworth,

[01:15:58] when she went out to play the second or no,

[01:16:00] did we know that she was playing a second time that was she a voting

[01:16:03] chance they're all voted.

[01:16:04] They're voted.

[01:16:05] So it was the so it wasn't her.

[01:16:07] What was the season prior to that?

[01:16:08] That was like the spin.

[01:16:09] Well, one of them was also on edge of extinction.

[01:16:11] So it could have been when she was out there.

[01:16:14] Yeah. But I also think like Dale was posted for her at one point.

[01:16:18] And it was like, I also remember a funny

[01:16:22] friend of the show, Alex Brizard, when he was on the circle.

[01:16:26] I remember I had like referred him to the show

[01:16:29] and to the casting and he had kept me updated with the process.

[01:16:33] And it seemed like it was going to go through.

[01:16:34] But then last minute he was like, oh, no, I got cut like this and that.

[01:16:38] Because they told him to tell me that he wasn't on it so that I, you know,

[01:16:42] wouldn't have any inside info to give to other people or whatever.

[01:16:45] And so I was like, damn.

[01:16:46] But then it had been about like a month and I was like,

[01:16:50] I haven't heard from Alex at all.

[01:16:51] And then I go through our group chat

[01:16:54] to see, like, has he been active in the group chat?

[01:16:57] And it was like four weeks in there.

[01:16:59] But then there was like one text in there that was like cool.

[01:17:03] I think his girlfriend was like man in his group chat just to be like.

[01:17:09] What's up, guys?

[01:17:10] Just like give it not give it anything, but yeah,

[01:17:13] it is it is so funny to see all that stuff.

[01:17:16] So I'm excited. Yeah.

[01:17:18] But by being tangentially involved in the community

[01:17:21] and all your events and stuff, I mean, with 50 on the horizon

[01:17:25] before, during and after, it's going to be a lot of fun

[01:17:28] to see that roller coaster ride.

[01:17:30] Listen, in two years, you're going to see me with a purple mic right here.

[01:17:34] You know, Bryce is going to be conveniently,

[01:17:37] you know, taking care of some things and, you know, handling business. So.

[01:17:44] We will gladly take that.

[01:17:46] I remember when Wendell was at Winners at War and.

[01:17:52] I was in a group chat with his mom and dad

[01:17:55] and the dad asked for a ride to the airport.

[01:17:59] And I didn't connect the dots.

[01:18:03] Yeah, you'll remember.

[01:18:05] And so, right.

[01:18:06] And I didn't connect the dots and I didn't peep.

[01:18:09] I didn't even think because first of all, I just get weird

[01:18:13] with those parents.

[01:18:14] So it's like I'll be like, good morning.

[01:18:19] And I could have been like, oh, but yeah.

[01:18:24] You were like you were like, when you got this and when he was like,

[01:18:27] he's out of town or something like that.

[01:18:30] I mean, I knew he was going, but I was just like,

[01:18:33] if I would have thought it through, I'd have been like,

[01:18:36] how far he would have made it.

[01:18:38] But glad I didn't think that far.

[01:18:40] But no, it's like just the little nuances

[01:18:43] that I think that this brings in the survivor community.

[01:18:45] And for me, I could just throw a little shade that we can end it all.

[01:18:50] I wish the energy that is in the community now.

[01:18:54] I wish it was like that normally during survivor seasons,

[01:18:59] because I will say that because I do feel a little slighted a little bit.

[01:19:02] Like there are some people that like pour into the community,

[01:19:06] the poor into the community because they love the community,

[01:19:08] not because they want to like galvanize the community.

[01:19:10] And so I I do be hating a little bit.

[01:19:14] But you know, you guys have done with the events alone.

[01:19:17] I mean, as has created so much energy and buzz every season,

[01:19:21] I feel like to some extent, I know what you mean, though.

[01:19:22] There's certain right.

[01:19:24] Oh, returning season now. Now I'll come back in.

[01:19:27] As a fan, I love to hear from these people,

[01:19:29] even if it's just like once in a blue.

[01:19:33] So I mean, like a one on one almost of being like, what's up?

[01:19:37] Right. Like all of a sudden, people changing their profile photos.

[01:19:40] All of a sudden, people retweet and stuff.

[01:19:43] Oh, my God. Sorry, I missed this text. How you been?

[01:19:47] And for me, my dumb behind them all liking the photos

[01:19:49] like, hey, we're not realizing what is going on.

[01:19:53] I think that a lot of likes.

[01:19:55] I just wish that like energy amongst the.

[01:20:01] Returning players was there like this.

[01:20:04] So, again, me, I'm at low key enjoying it

[01:20:08] because I love I'm a fan.

[01:20:10] Like so again, to see a Janet Corbin, like to see

[01:20:15] like a Abby Maria, to see a Davey, like to see them

[01:20:18] like engaging even though Davey and Abby are always.

[01:20:21] But just there are just so many people that are back

[01:20:23] and I'm just like, where are you all been? I love it.

[01:20:26] And before we wrap up, I just just a fun little bit,

[01:20:29] you know, present company and close friends aside,

[01:20:32] who is someone if you had to name one person from any season

[01:20:37] and I would appreciate like a good throwback pick,

[01:20:39] but who was one person you would love to see on season 50?

[01:20:43] I always start off by saying Sean from season four Mark Hases.

[01:20:48] I would love to see Sean come back.

[01:20:50] I thought Sean was a great character on the show, hilarious.

[01:20:54] I think he's one person on my list that I would just love to see play again.

[01:21:02] Dom. Great pick.

[01:21:09] Francesca Hogan, a good good.

[01:21:14] Jack. Repeat.

[01:21:18] God, well, now I feel now I'm going to say three real quick.

[01:21:21] I'm avoiding my own question.

[01:21:23] I'm going to off the top, I'm going to say Rick Devons,

[01:21:26] Christian Hubecky and I'm going to go my guy, Devin Pinto from a hero.

[01:21:31] Devin in the original Zaddy calendar.

[01:21:35] And I'll throw it. We throw in a Victoria Bamondi, too.

[01:21:37] She was a great player of the new era.

[01:21:40] I think people that jump out to me,

[01:21:43] like I said, Zaddy Zan, I think.

[01:21:49] Wait, what? You just threw me off with Santa.

[01:21:52] Jesse, I feel like I feel like Jesse.

[01:21:55] I think Jesse, if there's any locks,

[01:21:58] I think it would be a Jesse and a Carolyn, you know, two of them.

[01:22:01] You know, maybe two.

[01:22:03] Yeah, I think over also a great over.

[01:22:06] More have like the maybe the best chance because this new era is very popular.

[01:22:10] I think her poking Mike.

[01:22:12] Yeah, I don't think it's a new era without Shane.

[01:22:15] So I'm going to say Shane.

[01:22:16] You think she would come back?

[01:22:19] I don't know. You never know.

[01:22:22] Yeah, I also think Jalinsky.

[01:22:27] Yeah, Jalinsky of the year.

[01:22:30] I think, yeah, we definitely should do an offseason pie of like,

[01:22:35] oh, we have to just do something over something.

[01:22:39] But listen, episode 10 was great.

[01:22:42] Excited for episode 11 will be in Boston.

[01:22:46] And this has been your survivor news.

[01:22:48] Also, thank you, Tim, for joining us this week.

[01:22:53] Where can people follow you at before we go?

[01:22:55] So y'all can catch me at Tim's to gram beat over on Instagram.

[01:23:00] But you also see me every Sunday on the Bryson when present page,

[01:23:04] not only on Insta, but also on TikTok,

[01:23:07] where I will be recapping the season of Survivor.

[01:23:10] This happened right now and in the future, too.

[01:23:12] So you can find me there.

[01:23:14] And yeah, thanks again, y'all for having me.

[01:23:16] I really appreciate it.

[01:23:18] Thank you.

[01:23:19] It's been your survivor news.